Re: [slim] Register your appreciation .....

2022-12-22 Thread Redrum


+1 - done for all the links posted

but we need payment links for those missing (if they will accept).

Also, Paul Webster for not only his support, but for Radio Now Playing
as well. There is no donate link on his home/blog pages through...

Happy Holidays all!

Jim



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Re: [slim] Does Anyone Have a Slimdevice for Sale?

2022-12-17 Thread Redrum

yeomanspc wrote: 
> I feel I need to defend the Duets - I have had 4 since they were first
> available and they never missed a beat other than on 2 occasions I had
> to set them up again.  Mine are all wired now (not Wi-Fi).  I have 3
> Touch’s and had a screen fail on one (Logitech replaced the player foc
> but I’d be more wary of a 2nd hand Touch than a Duet/receiver.  But if I
> was buying now, I’d get a Pi for a player and use IPeng or similar as
> controller.  Keep looking for a touch if that’s what you want- they do
> come up occasionally.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's fair. I tried to be gentle in my criticism. I just greatly prefer
everything else. Receivers on wifi drove me nuts, but the one I am using
wired is fine. Like I said, I really like the controllers, but have a
couple dim ones, and one of them has the sticky nav wheel.

One thing that Paul (OP) might consider is a Radio. They are abundant on
ebay (here in the US) and cheap (~$50USD). You can wire the headphone
out to RCA inputs. While I would not do it for an expensive/critical
listening system, I did it for a friend with a modest system and it
doesn't sound to bad. Ergo wise it's like a touch with a smaller screen
and physical controls (knobs and buttons). Then when you find your touch
or pi, it's a great second player, especially with a battery adding
portability. Also, the radio can be used as a controller - that is, get
just a receiver, or one of Philippe's squeezeamps, and you have a
pseudo-duet. The radio can just be set to control the receiver/s-amp.

Jim

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Re: [slim] Does Anyone Have a Slimdevice for Sale?

2022-12-16 Thread Redrum


Not the response you are looking for, but you don't want a duet. I own a
few, and the touch is far superior. The duet was my first sb, and I
bought extra receivers, and other used duets, but most of the receivers
are in a box

I like, and use the controller half of the Duet, but at their age they
are prone to dim screens, and sticky nav wheels. The receivers, I only
use them on ethernet, IMO, the wifi performance (antenna?) is the worst
of all the players.

The touch is a real nice kit IMO.

Jim

Disclaimer - this is my own experience, I know others like the
receivers, but they have been my only sb device that has cause
struggles. IMO there are much better options (like a touch or @w3w's
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Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.

2022-12-12 Thread Redrum


I have been reading but keeping my fingers off the keyboard waiting to
see how this ends...happy for you kitus...

but, is there really a problem with pickpockets? I haven't heard that
referenced for decades. I thought that the thieves moved on to other
occupations :)

Jim



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Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.

2022-12-08 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> Porcupine tea, shirley shume mishtake:)
> 
> ronnie

39345

sorry all, couldn't resist...back to our regularly scheduled
discussion...

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Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.

2022-12-08 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> 
> It's Jim's (redrum) Occam razor theory :)
> 

I never thought of it that way, that it had a name, I always though
Occam's Razor was just a Porcupine Tree song. :)

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Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.

2022-12-07 Thread Redrum


I read the OP yesterday and decided to keep quiet as to not be a
distraction. Something I should do more often.

I use a pi3b+ with pcp as a server, but I have no squeeze lite devices.
But I had one thought, so I returned here today. Why not just start with
a fresh install of pcp on your 3b+, follow the "how to's" exactly, and
see if you can get good behavior out of the headphone jack? You can use
phones/buds, or just use a jack->rca cable and plug it into an
amp/speakers.

>From what I remember, to get that far takes just a few minutes. Get that
working, then take the next step. Identify the step that breaks it...or,
cheer if it just works in the end :)

If you decide to try this, make sure you check everything at each step
(i.e. your spotify connect issue too)

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Re: [slim] Incredible NEW 11.6 inch touchscreen Squeezebox player with Bluetooth

2022-11-22 Thread Redrum


I am not trying to squash @jimzak's innovation, but.

I posted about something similar using refurbished Amazon Fire tablets
(as low as $20USD for an 8")
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116398-Cheap-Fire-HD-Tablets

The devil in the details seems to me the constant application of line
power to the tablet/chrome book and it's long term affect on the
battery. @RobbH has a great idea to try to setup the android app
"tasker" to turn on and off a smart plug. I had planned on checking into
this this winter, but winter has only started :)

But, I also think it has great possibilities. It's a very "thin" (hang
on the wall?) solution. I bought and converted a number of these tablet
just to have a material/squeeze cntrl as a control/now playing screen
hanging laying around, and found I also use them for ear bud listening
as well, especially when the house is sleeping...

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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

2022-11-19 Thread Redrum


There is also Philippe's Squeezeamp. Just connect a pair of speaker, or
use the SPDIF out. He just built another batch and I think is starting
to send them out. You could contact him to see if he has any not spoken
for 

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116084-New-modified-SqueezeAMP-batch&highlight=squeezeamp

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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-19 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> I don't think anyone intended to imply that. I simply INFERRED it. Not
> for the first time. Probably not the last.

poor attempt at a joke, I need to learn to stick to the subject. I think
a bit of @Ronnie tends to rub off on me :). I meant that the stream felt
no need to add the 0, it's implied. Like I said, a real lame joke...:o

I looked at the fact that it's 32kbps and thought "yuk", but I really am
not familiar with AAC's bitrates vs quality...Happy @ParkD got his
station. @bpa was spot on with the LMS version and https. I had
forgotten...

Jim



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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-18 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> Jim, your image showed that I needed my glasses when I reported earlier
> that this was a 320 kbps stream. 32 kbps is correct.

or maybe the '0' is implied ;)



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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-18 Thread Redrum


ParkD wrote: 
> I upgraded my LMS to the latest version (8.3.0) and am now able to
> stream Austin City Limits Radio. Thanks for all the suggestions.

great! so your wife is no longer rolling her eyes and she thinks you are
a hero? 

Jim



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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-18 Thread Redrum


Redrum wrote: 
> .
> 
> I can try it via mysb.com on the receiver if needed.
> 
> Jim

ok, I played it via mysb.com, on a receiver/controller, and it did
indeed error (see pic), and it does look like it redirects, but, it
played anyway...:confused:

39155

let me know if there is any more testing anyone would like for me to do.
In the mean time, looks like I can dust the controller :)

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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-18 Thread Redrum


I have the station playing via LMS, on a receiver, and when I select
more->more info, this is what's displayed (in material):

39154

I can try it via mysb.com on the receiver if needed.

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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-18 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> .
> @Redrum
> Can you confirm that URL doesn't redirect to an https URL ?

I'd be happy to check, but I don't know how to check for redirection :o.
I know, it's going to be simple

In the mean time, I'll try to find it via mysb.com

Jim



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Re: [slim] Accessing local radio station - help

2022-11-18 Thread Redrum


Im in the US. I searched under "radio" and found the station - it plays
on a boom. I have a duet in another room, I'll try that next
39147

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Re: [slim] The Current State of USB Sticks

2022-10-24 Thread Redrum


RonM wrote: 
> .
> Small and easily misplaced, though, take care
> R.

Unless you use the loop as intended and put them on your keyring, so
instead of getting lost, they just get the crap beaten out of 'em :)

Those are also my fav, along with the stubby ones for vehicles.

Jim



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Re: [slim] Policy question

2022-10-18 Thread Redrum


Howard Passman wrote: 
> I'm not really aware of what a reasonable price is for my Transporter
> is. 
> 
> 

Hi Howard, I can't really help you on transporter value, I don't have
one, although I have thought "do I need one?" Maybe not "need"

I really know nothing about them, but I have seen there are ones with or
without "transnav knobs". At one time there was a seller on ebay that
had quite a few still in box of the "without transnav knobs" and I think
they were about $600 (pretty sure, not certain). I just looked at there
is one on ebay with transnav for 995 USD

Maybe start a thread "what's my transporter worth?" to get a better idea
(based on details of your kit) and maybe you will find a partner in the
process.

Jim



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Re: [slim] Policy question

2022-10-18 Thread Redrum


Shozzer wrote: 
> No issues as far as I am aware. You will see, from time to time, forum
> members advising of kit for sale.
> 
> Steve

yes, it's ok, I bought a while sb radio from another member :)

Usually the offerings are either free (pay shipping) or very fair. I
don't think the forum hosts want a marketplace, so if you are trying to
get top $, use ebay, facebook, etc.

Jim



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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-28 Thread Redrum


Redrum wrote: 
> Michael, thank you. That had never occurred to me. It has happened to 2
> friends so I just assumed it is automatic. I have a touch here and will
> try shutting down LMS while playing (or idle) and see what happens.
> 
> What a great solution if there is a prompt
> 
> Jim

Thread closing post which I will start with an apology. I should have
never posted based on what friends told me ("I didn't do anything") and
some old foggy memories, perhaps from a very early version of LMS, or
perhaps fabricated in my mind.

I played a touch with a pcp LMS server, stopped LMS, and indeed, from
the touch UI, it prompts if you want to switch to mysb.com. Even better,
when in favorites, it says "mysb.com favorites". I guess what I defined
as "ideal" is actually real :o:o. I tried all sorts of ways to get it to
auto switch. They must have chosen to go (unknowingly), and not known
what to check, and how to get back (My Music)

I'll educate my two friends...again. It was just concerning when the
would tell me of the the crippled operation (i.e. on mysb.com), and "it
has been this way a long time" and of course "It just happened" :eek: 

Thanks to those that chimed in and sorry for wasting your time, but, I
did learn something, and got my answer.

Jim



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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-28 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> > I recall that there is an option to start LMS with a "--no
> mysqueezebox"
> > switch. Might that do it?
> 
> I doubt it: LMS was off, wasn't it? It then doesn't matter at all how 
> you would start it.

I am not sure of the state LMS/players, but I assume that LMS was
running with the touch/radios probably in the stop/soft power off or
playing state, when pi LMS was switched off, or lost due to an event.

So, I am not sure of the behavior of LMS dying after initially being
initiated with no mysb

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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-28 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> 
> I think you'd still have to confirm the switch. Original hardware 
> players IMHO do NOT connect to any other server than the latest used 
> automatically. 

Michael, thank you. That had never occurred to me. It has happened to 2
friends so I just assumed it is automatic. I have a touch here and will
try shutting down LMS while playing (or idle) and see what happens.

What a great solution if there is a prompt

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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-27 Thread Redrum


Apesbrain wrote: 
> I recall that there is an option to start LMS with a "--no mysqueezebox"
> switch. Might that do it?

sure as long as Pandora authentication can still happen.

But, I think I was trying to solve a user problem within the system,
hoping something was built in and simple. Perhaps that isn't going to
happen. I think the user might just have to really try to learn a couple
basics. Or I can put a sticker on his touch :)

There is also the "unintended consequences". If I disable mysb.com, and
he mangles LMS somehow, then he is out of luck until I fix it for him.
That is why indication of "you are using LMS or mysb.com is ideal"

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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-27 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> I've been looking at the LMS Command LIne Interface documentation, under
> Help/Technical Information. It appears to me that it might be possible
> to run a script that subscribes to the serverstatus command in order to
> know when a player switches to msb.com. When that happens, perhaps the
> disconnect command could be used to switch it back to the local LMS.

Thanks Robb, I know very little about using CLI, but have found the
documentation, and will look into it.

Still it does seem weird that something so legacy, out of date,
development stopped years ago, would remain so integrated into LMS. The
account authorization I completely understand, it's already in place for
Pandora, etc, why not use it for Tidal, etc. But to not be able to
disable fleeing LMS when you can't find it, seems strange. But, maybe it
never comes up, except for some new users :)

Still maybe an easier solution is to display always, or at a tap, the
attached server.


Jim



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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-27 Thread Redrum


P Nelson wrote: 
> 
> 
> Not a really an answer to your question, but more of a commentary that
> the SB/LMS works great for those technically inclined, and less so for
> the play and play.
> 
> Paul

I agree Paul, with power and flexibility comes complexity/longer
learning curve. I agree that sonos ($$) was probably the right approach.
But I cannot support sonos, and the total I spent for him is $300 (with
a pi, touch, and 2 radios)

In this particular case, my friend was over and said "I want that". I
gave him a duet, wifi problems. Found a touch on ebay for $100USD, and
tried to run Tiny LMS, you know the rest. Bought him a pi with HDD.
Peace and happiness...until the auto switch to mysb.com 

In my mom's final years, she loved gadgets, and I would write and
laminate simple instructions/flow charts/etc. I am not sure they helped,
but she did spill food on them, so they were being used :)

It seems like a simple request/get. If connection to LMS fails, do
nothing, keep failing/error message...wish I knew how to write a
plugin...

Jim



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Re: [slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-27 Thread Redrum


Apesbrain wrote: 
> If this is the type of PS that has a physical switch, why not tape it
> over?  Or replace with "switchless" PS.

thank you, of course, but why not just not auto switch to mysb.com?, or,
at the very worse have an indication of which server is being used. Edit
(but then he would unplug it to, say move it :))

As you know, all it takes is an "event" to auto switch to mysb.com (not
just a power switch). What I really am looking for is to disable
mysb.com, but still use it for authentication. Or at a minimum show the
attached server (wish list). Personally, I don't use services or
mysb.com, so I suppose I could just remove my account info, but I know
how to recover, so I don't bother.

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[slim] unknowingly switching to mysb.com

2022-09-27 Thread Redrum


I suppose I should be able to dig around and experiment, but I'd rather
just ask :) go to -italics- for the question if the back story is
boring

We all know sb device, LMS, and mysb.com, and their roles pretty well.
But then we deploy them to technically challenged and inexperienced
friend and family, then "things happen"

I have seen this, or similar at least 5+ times. I'd like to find a way
out to avoid it:

I deployed a touch, rpi3b+ (pcp server only) to a non technical and not
very willing to learn friend and he thinks the world of it. I went over
the other day and he was listening to pandora (sure, why not). He said
"I cannot get radio paradise anymore" so I investigated with him
watching. I backed out, then into favorites, which identified mysb.com
is the server. I went to my music, and it could not connect to the LMS
server. I went over to the little pi box and the power supply was
switched off (tidying up?). I turned it on and viola, was able to use my
music to switch to LMS, then favorites to the RP links I set up. I told
him what happened. Blank stare. He had lived with it for months. So, I
knew it was bound to repeat. Had it just not worked (no mysb.com) I
would have gotten a call.

-So, my question(s) - is there a way to turn off the auto switch to
mysb.com if LMS is not available? The "integration" setting in LMS seems
to be only for player settings. Further, if I can prevent the switch,
can mysb.com still be used to account validate his Pandora?-

My comment - it seems to me that the auto switch, with no real display
of what server you are using, can trip our less experienced people up.
What are the ways we can prevent that? Is there a way on the touch
screen to always list the server name, even if it's invisible until you
tap? Also, I know to use MyMusic to switch to LMS and
settings->advanced->forgot what this is->switch to mysb.com to switch to
mysb.com, but it's not intuitive to others. I do know that I can add the
settings->~ to the main menu, but, do less experienced?

Jim

PS - as a side note, I have been thinking about starting a thread on
"accessibility". We all know this from computers/devices as the attempt
to equalize the experience with the hearing, sight, and physically
impaired. But what about daft and unwilling to learn? My thought would
be to share our experiences and "tricks and tips" to make this flexible
and powerful system as close to push and play as possible. Think a
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Re: [slim] Tracks stop after 30 sec

2022-09-21 Thread Redrum


have you tried a factory reset?

I would also suggest trying another player, so you can have confidence
it's not your touch, or, you narrow it down to your touch.

I doubt the touch wifi is contributing to your issues, but if you would
like, why not test it on ethernet. I have two touches on wifi, no
issues. The SB radios however have been problematic with the new wifi6
routers.

There is also a community firmware available for the touch. I have zero
experience with it, so I can't help you with it. You could give it a try
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113479-Announce-Community-Firmware-for-Squeezebox-Radio-Touch-Controller-and-LMS-8&highlight=firmware

I again encourage you to try to isolate your issue to
files/player/server/hard drive/etc... by swapping. It's so much easier
to try to solve the issue. It would be different if this was a common
problem. To my knowledge it hasn't been reported before (?)

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Re: [slim] Tracks stop after 30 sec

2022-09-20 Thread Redrum


If you want to test the "it's the touch" theory, and you don't have
another player, you can download squeezelite-X from the windows store,
or, pay a couple $ for sb player (if you have an android phone/tablet)
or ??? if you have an iphone (??? = help me ipeople :))

I can't remember if you ever said you used your picore player pi as a
player, but if you haven't, you could easily do that and use the
headphone output for testing.

You could also download some public domain music files and try those.

Again, I am fond of swapping things out to isolate the issue, figure
that out yet?  :)

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Re: [slim] Tracks stop after 30 sec

2022-09-19 Thread Redrum


shacky73 wrote: 
> No longer running the Pi LMS on laptop using onboard HDD

your choice, but for me that's a step backwards. Moving from a pc to a
pi was one of the best things that ever happened to my system. No more
"hey, what happened to the music?" when I turned of the PC (Mr.
Oblivious :o). However I do understand you need to just listen to move
that 30 seconds of your music at a time. ;)

Please don't let this experience sour you on trying LMS on a rpi again
some day. In fact, why not build a test system with your pi and a thumb
drive, with you alac files and a few other formats, mp3, etc.? Get that
working and go from there. One point of caution though, turn your PC LMS
off when you are testing. Goofy things and confusion can happen with 2
instances of LMS on the same network.

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Re: [slim] Tracks stop after 30 sec

2022-09-18 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> There's nothing wrong with the files.
> 
> There's no problem with RPi 4.
> 
> There's no problem with LMS 8.3.
> 
> So the problem is your environment/network.

Or your USB drive, powered by the rip, I assume? 

Please give a thumb drive with the files that stop, at least to
eliminate that variable

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Re: [slim] Tracks stop after 30 sec

2022-09-18 Thread Redrum


shacky73 wrote: 
> I realize you guys may be frustrated with me not following suggestions
> like the flash drive and posting server logs.  Sorry I just want to be
> able to play my ALAC library without problems.
> 

The flash drive - you are forgiven, the server logs - nope. :).
Seriously, this is where the experts on this forum could really help you
out. LMS logs events for a reason.

Of course you realize you can batch convert the ALAC files.

But for now, enjoy your music...:)

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-04-11 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> When I was still using my Receiver I lost count of the number of times I
> had reset both the Controller and Receiver and start again. I was never
> sure what to do when the Receiver stopped playing but factory reset
> always worked.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

That's why I have 3 receivers in a box in storage :) Only one deployed -
on ethernet...

I also tried to give one to a non technical friend, set it up, his
router was at the other end of the house. Wifi was ok, but I got so many
"It won't play" phone calls where I walked him through reset, that I
ended up finding him a touch on ebay and taking the receiver
back...touch has worked fine since, but I did talk him into moving his
router closer to his gear :)

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-04-11 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> 
> 
> But, after that reboot, 3 players are now offline.
> 
> The bridged extenders came back online, no problem. The duets themselves
> don't even show they're offline, their icon stayed white.
> 
> But no matter what I did, I couldn't get them to reconnect to the server
> until I rebooted the players themselves.
> 
> 

I am wondering if all 3 players offline are receivers? I say that
because, in my experience, that is exactly what happens (often) with my
receivers on wifi with a network exception. They "lock up" (white light,
controller still sees them but non responsive). I would reset the
receiver and controller and bring them back up together. I can't say I
have seen this with touch, radios, boom where a power down/up wouldn't
fix it. I don't think the receivers handle the exception the way the
other players do. 

I got pretty good and entering my network password with the scroll wheel
:) 

I gave up trying to use receivers on wifi.

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[slim] Cosmetic Facelift for SB Devices - Scratch Removal.

2022-04-09 Thread Redrum


Not sure if this has been mentioned, so I thought I would post about a
success.

I have bought quite a few (maybe too many) SB devices second hand and
try to inspect the listing pictures to see if the device is in fairly
nice shape cosmetically (including the dreaded stick) especially the
clear bezels of the touch and radio

I have bought a few that I was disappointed in, but just lived with the
marks. I recently got a red radio (yes, you need to own all 3 colors).
There was only onepicture in the listing and I didn't see the mark
across the bezel (below).

So I bought the Novus 1,2,3 kit, 8oz here in the US about $20, $14 for 2
oz.

Check out the results below. I also treated the red case, and while some
scratches remain, it's much much better. I suppose I could use, say
1000, then 2000 wet sanding, then the 1,2,3.

before
37663

after
37664

Novus
37665

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Re: [slim] 😢 My Squeezebox Classic 😒

2022-03-31 Thread Redrum


notechyet wrote: 
> Hello Squeezebox friends
> So after I tried what I thought were the right power adapters and not
> getting any sign of life from my Squeezebox I gave up and put it in the
> cupboard. Subsequently I checked on Ebay Australia and my luck got
> there. Bought it and after 3 weeks it arrived two days ago and works
> perfectly. That is the story I wanted to put on this forum. 
> Right now reading through some posts on this thread so I thought to
> better try the adapter which came with the Ebay unit; bingo my old
> Squeezebox back to live and working. So, I got two of them. Result I
> should've tried one more step with the old unit and buy an
> adapter(would've been cheaper).
> Once more, thank you guys for sharing your knowledge.

everyone's past is full of "should have's" but in the end a success is a
success, right!? Happy for you. Plus, you can never have enough
squeezeboxes :)

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Re: [slim] TP-Link WiFi 6 AX3000

2022-03-24 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> I'm using the wireless devices in bridge mode with a physical ethernet
> cable coming out of them into the squeezebox itself. .
> 
> 

Thanks for clarifying...cool drawing :)

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Re: [slim] TP-Link WiFi 6 AX3000

2022-03-24 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> .
> 
> As a more permanent fix, I picked up a handful of these
> (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093WZ15FR) and it has completely changed
> everything. Sync is faster, players don't fall offline anymore, and I
> can leave my router at optimal settings for newer devices.
> 
>  

can you clarify? Are you connecting your sb devices to the ethernet of
this device, or, to the wifi network that this device creates? I ask
because alot of people trying to solve their radio issues still want
portability (i.e. no ethernet umbilical :)). If you are indeed using the
wifi, does it create a new network (i.e, different ID, un, pw)?

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-03-24 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> I'm told this only works on radio? I have multiple SB Receivers and a
> touch that are also falling offline.

but, your wireless bridges solve your problem, right? So, you could keep
the receivers and touch on your wireless bridges, but try wlanpoke for
your radio. This is assuming you need your radio to be portable and on
wifi (move it around or use it on battery).

At the risk of being redundant, I will not use receivers on wifi at all
anymore, not worth the aggravation. 

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-03-23 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> I had a Fascinating Observation last night. I had manually set my 2.4
> ghz wifi channel to 11 last weekend but I noticed it was noisy so I set
> it back to Auto and the wifi router found a better channel.
> 
> Immediately the SB Touch fell offline, while the others that have wifi
> bridges have stayed online solid.
> 
> I have a feeling that with "Auto" on channel set, the old SBs wifi
> radios were struggling to stay connected when the channel changed. I
> suspect the router wasn't updating the channel that often, which is why
> I'd get sometimes days and sometimes weeks between dropouts.

Interesting. So, maybe it could not just be "what channel", but the
event of the channel change itself (your touch dropped off on the
change).

I am wondering if you have looked at what the network congestion looks
like near your players? I use an android app called wifi analyzer. I'm
quite rural. Here is the shot near my touch, about 30' from my router,
and you can see my neighbor's network (tate). I have no idea where his
router is, but it's at least 2-3 walls and 50-100' away. We are playing
nice on different channels :)

sorry for the huge image, I used to have a windows app to resize...maybe
not anymore...

37550

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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-22 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> .I hope your not a Doctor  :):):rolleyes:
> 
> ronnie

Actually Ronnie, he's not, he's an adventurer, but his father IS a
doctor :)

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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-21 Thread Redrum


I was going to reply earlier but was thrown off by "index build" and not
sure if my response would have been relevant.

There have been a couple instances where the mysb.com login credentials
looked right, but when they got reented and lms restarted, Tidal access
was restored. I was also going to mention to make sure mysb.com has
properly registered with Tidal.

but...sometime when you just take a big leap back and incremental steps
forward to rebuild, you fix the issue with even knowing what it was :)

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Re: [slim] Reconnecting to PiCore

2022-03-20 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> Oddly enough, after messing about with the servers screen, my Squeeze
> Ctrl crashes immediately after starting it, rebooting the phone didn't
> help.
> 
> Never mind, I don't use it anymore, I prefer Material skin.

I read this and tried mine, it still works. I have two locations and it
does struggle a bit to switch servers. Material just switches
effortlessly. If you haven't tried this, I can walk into a friend's
house, launch material, and control his system. I like to add something
like Wild Man Fisher into his queue just before leaving :rolleyes::)

I agree, I use material most of the time, but squeeze cntrl has some
neat features.

Ron, why not post your issue over at the squeeze control thread? Wayne
will see it there, and he has always responded fairly fast.

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96757-Annouce-Squeeze-Control-a-squeezebox-remote-app-is-now-available-for-Android&highlight=squeeze+cntrl

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> .I think i'm going to try getting a handful of these and connect to the
> ethernet ports: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093WZ15FR/
> 
> Unless anybody has a better recommendation on brand?

I have no experience with them but some people are using vonets for the
radio, and powering them with the radio ps (I think). Do a serach of
"vonet" in this forum, make combined with "radio"

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> Strong signal does not necessarily mean a good quality signal. 
> I think there is a lot more "noise" at the edges of channels due to new
> tech/faster standards and so old chips find it hard to decode their data
> stream even from a strong signal.

right, which is why I used "seemingly" I guess I meant (way back when)
when I look at the "wireless signal strength" in the player's
settings->advanced settings and saw a high %. Not very indicative, hence
"seemingly" :)

with all of the discussion with sb radio wireless issues, what did the
touch do that was one step better? They seem to be more...stable. It
seems like there is allot of very recent radio issues. I'm fairly rural,
so I don't see it.

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> .
> I don't want to speak too soon but usually the receivers drop off
> overnight and since my wired test started, it's still going strong. .

I (and others) had receiver wifi problems even with a seemly strong
signal. It also seemed (to me) that the receiver would just lock up with
a network glitch where the other players would weather the storm. I gave
up, and use just one with ethernet. I ended up running a 20' ethernet
cable in the basement instead of beating my skull against the desk :)

There are a few old threads where the wifi antenna location caused by
the small form factor is suspected. There are others that opened the box
and moved the antenna, still others configured external antennas. I just
decommisioned all but one. You can (could - pis are scarce) get a pi
with a hat, or one of Phillipe's squeezeamps cheap enough

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Re: [slim] Maintaining an Old System

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


FredFredrickson wrote: 
> 
> 
> The touch is the only one that doesn't disconnect for me. 
> 
> Both the receivers and radio require rebooting almost daily. The
> touch is weekly 

At first I thought it was very telling (wifi as @w3w and @bpa suggest)
that the radio and receivers are the problem, not the touch, but you say
the touch still has problems weekly?

I think your connecting to ethernet and testing is a good move to
confirm this. My receivers have always been goofy on wifi, even with
what we might feel is a good signal. Most are in a box, one is on
ethernet. Radio wifi issues are all over this forum.

I really wonder (and have no knowledge to support this) if age is
starting to come into play with some of these old wifi chips/boards. The
touch is a newer gen wifi chipset if believe?

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Re: [slim] Radio stations

2022-03-10 Thread Redrum

bpa wrote: 
> 
> 
> I think consolidating info from a number of different sources could
> result in many duplicates as returned station names or URLs for the same
> station may not be entered exactly the same (e.g. Irish national
> broadcaster RTE vs RTÉ )

If I might chime in with some thoughts~

I would envision a solution where "radio" is just a location for the
plugin/services to reside - tune in, radio.net, Paul's Radio Now
playing, etc. Then a general search would cover all services, but
instead of returning a full list possibly with duplicate, would return -
Tune In(60) Radio.net (10), etc. The user could then drill down..

The other thing to keep in mind, while many are discovering LMS, most of
"us" are experienced users. (To me) it seems like "Radio" was targeted
to the "I bought a sb radio, plugged it in, lets listen to the
internet". If you are to change "radio" I would think it makes sense to
target power over convenience for functionality. Remember, allot of the
wonderful powerful plugin and functions of LMS are not "plug and play"
for those new to LMS (example DSTM, You Tube plugin, etc). If a new user
wants plug and play they choose sonos these days.

my 2 cents to stimulate thoughts, or, just dismiss it as another
rambling ;)
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Re: [slim] 😢 My Squeezebox Classic 😒

2022-03-09 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> .
> The barrel connector has an internal diameters (ID), external diameter
> (OD) and a minimum length.
> 
> Barrel / Sleeve Connector: 2.5mm ID, 5.5mm OD, 11mm long Min - it is a
> very common size.
> 

If I might add one thing to confirm when sourcing a supply. The sb3
power supply, per spec, is center (pin) positive. Center positive are
probably the most common, but there are center negative/barrel positive
supplies out there (some audio and guitar gear). The idea of a center
negative is the pin makes contact first, establishing the gnd before
applying the supply (at least I think that's why)

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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread Redrum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> and I have one of those drives sitting in a PDP 11/83 in my lounge!
> 

wow! I leaned assembler in university on one of those. Right about the
same time I was feeding punch cards to a CDC6600 (60 bit word) hoping my
Fortran program would run:o

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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread Redrum

philippe_44 wrote: 
> I’m ready to redo another batch.[/IMG]

wow, I'm sure it's not because you found extra idle time :). You are a
brave man Philippe!

I just wish I needed one, I bought 2 more than I need last time!...I'll
think about it :) Paul has the right idea tho..

Do you want responders to send you an email to sque*** like last time?

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Re: [slim] message for every music play?

2022-02-19 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> Look at the WhatWasThatTune plugin

+1

The nice thing about it is it captures "per player", date/time, and
track info regardless of it's your library, an internet station, or
service. For example

37255

The only thing that appears to be missing is the source, i.e. the latest
entries were played on Mother Earth Radio

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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-13 Thread Redrum


jimzak wrote: 
> Let it be noted that I had recently done a complete reinstall of Windows
> and LMS.  This startup setting issue was not a setting that had
> mysteriously changed.

I moved LMS to picore a while back, and am no expert on windows, but
have noticed "permission" issues with windows 10 that were not there
initially but came about during an update. This might be what you are
seeing.

Check out this thread, where @gordonb3, and @d6jg mention windows UAC
(User Account Control) -
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115832-LMS-Has-Stopped-Working-Cannot-Get-It-Working-Again

My permission issues magically appeared after I had to fresh install
windows because of the dreaded "startup repair" loop to nowhere. I
reinstalled freefilesync and all of a sudden got "you don't have
permission to access this folder" even though I was logged in as admin.
I had to explicitly launch ffs via "run as administrator"

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

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kidstypike wrote: 
> IR isn't much use if there's no screen to show the user where he/she is
> in the menu structure. :confused:

maybe just volume, mute, ffwd, rew?

I agree that the duet was designed as a set, and receivers sold on their
own were intended for additional rooms. So a receiver was never intended
to be standalone.

In a way, it's like a Roku streamer. They were intended to only work
with roku remotes, but people wanted integrated "smart" remotes, hence
the roku 3/ultra (with IR), which I have, because I want one harmony
remote to control everything. I don't want to use two remotes. I imagine
Roku's early models had a similar design philosophy to the Duet. Maybe
if there had been additional generations of the receiver, there would be
IR

again, I steer the conversation way off topic, sorry :o

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Re: [slim] PiCore

2022-02-12 Thread Redrum

d6jg wrote: 
> You should not attempt to use the piCorePlayer options for a static IP
> when using WiFi. There is a good technical reason for this.
> Instead reserve an IP for the WiFi MAC address in your router’s DHCP
> settings (most routers have this capability although some dress it up as
> something else eg Fritzbox).

Jim, I am curious, what is the "good technical reason"? I'm just curious
because I would like to know, and because perhaps the picore "how to"'s
should be updated to reflect this? 

I agree your approach to reserving the IP in the router for the MAC is a
good one and relatively easy.

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-11 Thread Redrum


Good information to know Ralphy...

I have managed to steer this thread WAY off topic, but this is what I
had dim memories about:

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109379-IR-Codes-shared-by-boom-and-touch&highlight=

apparently it's just for the boom, which the device that is NOT being
discussed :o

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-10 Thread Redrum


Jaca wrote: 
> It was asked by few members on forums including myself, if there is a
> way to reprogram remote so it can be used with 2 devices in one room..
> Best advice  I came across was to disable IR on one of devices, but
> surely what you suggested is the way better solution. Thanks!

Details are fuzzy, I'd have to look into it, but some devices (is it the
boom only? others?) you can change the IR code set...

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-10 Thread Redrum


Jaca wrote: 
> I did think about harmony remotes while ago, but I thought it's all
> discountinued so better to stay away. Saying that it's probably possible
> to get it on ebay

Once the drop announcement came out, I picked up a couple I didn't need,
I like them that much. They are especially nice for members of the
household/guests, because they are easy. Press the button next to "Watch
TV". I think the 650 was about $70USD years ago. I see them now for
about $20 - 40 on our side.

I think that Logitech will continue to host "my harmony" because they
have deployed millions of devices that depend on it (sound familiar?
:p)

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-10 Thread Redrum


ralphy wrote: 
> You can also use any remote with the Touch/Radio that "speaks" the nec
> IR protocol.
> 
> 

Also, as an option to what Ralphy is suggesting, the Logitech Harmony
Remotes, which use the "my harmony" software can be programmed to
control a Touch or Radio (My Harmony has a code database entry for
them). I use couple Harmony 650s to control touches in different
locations, and have set them up for friends.

Note that Logitech has discontinued the Harmony Remotes, but they are
still available on the secondary market. I like the 650/665 because they
are simple, inexpensive, have a small TFT screen, and can control
multiple devices, and you can program activities ("Listen to Touch",
"Watch a DVD", "Stream", etc.)

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-09 Thread Redrum


If you have cleaned the landing area of the keys with a pencil eraser,
maybe a bit of deoxit, and it still doesn't work, but looks ok, perhaps
the carbon on the key itself has deteriorated. 

If you wanted to, since you have more than one, swap the keypad to see
if the problem is the pcb or the keypad. If it is a certain key(s) on
the keypad, and you wish to spend a little $ to descend further into the
rabbit hole, carbon conductive paint is available to "restore" the
conductive properties of the pad. Here's a link to Amazon (US). I am
sure something similar on your side.

https://www.amazon.com/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-10ml/dp/B00KBXT6JW/ref=asc_df_B00KBXT6JW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312361191037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13022133765698490056&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005508&hvtargid=pla-570513770808&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62542142539&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312361191037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13022133765698490056&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005508&hvtargid=pla-570513770808

Hey, you can be the Joe Much of remotes!! :)

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-07 Thread Redrum


Jaca wrote: 
> I didn't get wire wrap date joke though (Assuming it was joke..  I'm one
> of those pesky eastern europeans ;p so you know )

>From the wiki page on wire wrap: "Wire wrap construction became popular
around 1960 in circuit board manufacturing, and use has now sharply
declined. Surface-mount technology has made the technique much less
useful than in previous decades. Solder-less breadboards and the
decreasing cost of professionally made PCBs have nearly eliminated this
technology"

so it was a joke, and it was a reference to the fact that I used to use
itin the 80's :p. Hence the joke about dating myself. 

But, when I started working on prototype PCB's, wire wrap was on it's
way out and we had a ton of the wire laying round. As long as it doesn't
have to handle much current, it's great for pcb mods and repairs. You
can pre-shape it, put a bit of solder on the landing pads, place the
wire and just touch with a soldering iron.

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-06 Thread Redrum


Jaca wrote: 
> 
> 
> This is too tiny with my soldering skills to properly fix so had to
> improvise and weird things turned out to be working :) 
> 
> 

cool! Wire wrap wire works real well for those jumpers if you have any
#26-#30 laying around. Just mentioning wire wrap might date me :). Since
it's single strand it allows you to shape the jumper, and being small
it's not likely to get in the way of anything. Also if you wanted to
attempt a repair with just solder and a small tip, the solder will only
stick to the exposed copper, so if you used an exacto knife to scrape
away the coating exposing the trace that you expect to be broken, you
don't have to be real precise with the iron, the solder will only adhere
to the exposed copper. It might look like it blobs over other traces,
but as long as they aren't exposed copper you are ok.

You also mentioned the "holes" corresponding to problem areas. The holes
are "vias" and they are basically a copper plated hole that allows a
trace on one side of the board to the other (assuming 2 layer board for
simplicity). So if you suspected a via is bad, scrape a bit on each
side, maybe scrape the hole with a drill bit, and blob the solder
through it.

Nice fix! I digress :)

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-04 Thread Redrum


Jaca wrote: 
> Weirdly 2 of my SB Touch remotes recently developed this problem..
> 
> One has not working next and sleep, where other previous and back
> arrow.
> 
> I had a look inside to do usual remote clean and possibly foil trick but
> it seems that pcb tracks started to fail... I checked with multimeter
> buzzer and there is no connection to chip form faulty buttons..
> 
> Don't think I'm skilled to fix that narrow track and doubt there is
> other magic fix.
> 
> I bet your remote suffers from same problem if it's only particular
> button not working..
> 
> BTW I have checked on other devices to rule out infamous power supply
> failure

not saying you aren't correct, but it's worth trying to clean. It is
very common for one button, or an area to fail, possibly because of a
spill. a pcb trace failure is possible, but it should be visible under a
magnifier. Also when using a multimeter for checking traces, realize
there may be a conformal coating over them (but not the button landing
pads). You need to use sharp meter probes to pierce the coating to test.
You could try hunk of something conductive (like copper solder wick) and
press onto the button in question spot to see if the ir functions
trigger. This might indicate a problem with the carbon on the bottom of
the silicone.

Again, I could rummage around and fine one, maybe two...who knows, I
have all sorts of parts :)

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Re: [slim] Remote key not working

2022-02-04 Thread Redrum


if you mean the little hand held remote similar to all of the other ones
(tv, etc) laying around...

often you can open the case and clean it. The buttons consist of
interlaced copper traces on the pcb board, and the silicone pad (the
button) has a carbon deposit on it (usually carbon, I think?). When
pressed, the carbon shorts the interlaced traces, giving you a press.

all sort of stuff can be happening when they don't work, dirt, spills,
age (the copper can oxidize)try to use a pencil eraser on the copper
pad locations to buff them up a bit, then basically wash the silicone
pad (carefully where the carbon is). Also, take a look at the case that
the buttons protrude through and make sure they aren't gunked up which
might cause a button to stick. I have had other remotes that "don't
work" where I discovered a button was stuck, preventing everything from
working

If all of that fails, I might have one somewhere I can send to you, not
sure, I'd have to look. Are they the same as the Radios? I really don't
use them.

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Re: [slim] PiCore

2022-02-04 Thread Redrum


the OP hasn't checked back in for a couple days...lets hope it's
resolved :)



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Re: [slim] PiCore

2022-02-02 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> Agree. good idea. I've been using Pies/pCP for years, I've never used or
> needed a static IP address, I don't see the point.

The one reason that I have seen - I have deployed a few systems to non
technical friends, and setup shortcuts on their PC/Mac, Pads, Phones for
the pCP, LMS UI, LMS Settings, Material UI. Occasionally they will do
something like unplug the router, or maybe a firmware update is pushed,
then the router reassigns the IP, and none of their links work.

I have yet to convert them over to static to prevent that. I know where
to do it, but not really how (i.e. how to fill out all the fields).
Maybe I'll wait until Peet gets it working :)

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Re: [slim] PiCore

2022-02-02 Thread Redrum


can you change your static IP back to DHCP and see if it works?

Jim



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Re: [slim] PiCore

2022-02-01 Thread Redrum


Peet wrote: 
> LMS webpage does not work anymore.

can you get to the picore browser UI? If not, follow this:
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/determine_your_pcp_ip_address/ If
you can use my suggestion above to get to the lms page.

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Re: [slim] PiCore

2022-01-31 Thread Redrum


The other thing you can do is from the picore UI/Web Page: LMS Tab->LMS
Web Page

Jim



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Re: [slim] Material skin. Android. YouTube plugin. No copy/paste/select function

2022-01-28 Thread Redrum


if you just tap the field the keyboard will pop up.

For me, default android 12 keyboard, paste is not above the number key
area, but if I touch the 3 dots, then text editing, there is a paste. 

There is a way to get a paste on the top toolbar, but I have never
needed to.

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Re: [slim] Material skin. Android. YouTube plugin. No copy/paste/select function

2022-01-28 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> It's the same on a Windows desktop with a mouse, there's no right click
> menu, you need to use Ctrl + C to copy, Ctrrl + V to paste.

good observation - in fact many other (podcast, tidal, etc) search
fields do not yield a menu on right click

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Re: [slim] Material skin. Android. YouTube plugin. No copy/paste/select function

2022-01-28 Thread Redrum


Jaca wrote: 
> Just to show example.

This is great, thanks for pointing it out



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Re: [slim] Material skin. Android. YouTube plugin. No copy/paste/select function

2022-01-28 Thread Redrum


cpd73 wrote: 
> I can't check at the moment, as have no access to my LMS system - but
> does it work from a browser? i.e. if you load Material using Chrome?

the behavior is the same via chrome as the apk.

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Re: [slim] Material skin. Android. YouTube plugin. No copy/paste/select function

2022-01-28 Thread Redrum


ModelCitizen wrote: 
> Hello chaps.
> 
> On my Android phone it seems impossible to paste a video URL into to
> that field in the YouTube plugin. The little 'copy, paste, select' menu
> just doesn't pop up.
> 
> Can someone confirm this is the same for them, and if anyone can think
> of a reason why the box should not pop up let me know before I contact
> Craig Drummond (or write in the Material Skin thread if there is one)?
> 
> Thanks.

I can confirm on android 12, using the material apk, trying to press and
hold to get a "paste" pop up does not work. I do get a green "cursor" at
the beginning/below the url input line, that's all. Its true with all
fields btw

Jim

ps - I am running 8.2 and my material rev is 2.8.4



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Devices for sale, I'd like to see them go to community members

2022-01-23 Thread Redrum


sent you a pm yesterday



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Re: [slim] Podcasts - play order

2022-01-05 Thread Redrum


castalla wrote: 
> Maybe I'll just listen to a series in reverse order... Maybe there's
> some hidden meaning lurking there.

you mean like "Paul is dead.."?

Seriously, I guess what is being asked is that podcast series be brought
in by the LMS plugin similar to a music album - first song at the top. I
can see the logic in that.

Personally, I haven't been using the reorder method, and I haven't been
using bookmarks (maybe I should). I have just been going into "recently
played", noting which episode I last listened to, then going into the
series and navigating to the next one.

But, that doesn't address "the play the next one after current one
finishes" desire, which was in one of the previous threads, so maybe I
should take the time to reorder and bookmark.

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Re: [slim] Podcasts - play order

2022-01-05 Thread Redrum


you know, I never really listened that closely to the lyrics of that
song, but your point is spot on, reorder yourself, and move on! :)

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Re: [slim] Podcasts - play order

2022-01-05 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> In the year 2525.

Zager & Evans??? :confused:



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Re: [slim] Podcasts - play order

2022-01-05 Thread Redrum


castalla wrote: 
> Thanks.  
> 
> Easy but clutzy... A simple (for the user, but maybe not the
> programmer!) solution would be a sort option.

Agree, but the order of the episodes is a LMS thing, and we are just
using Material's select and drag and drop capabilities to reorder. So,
it's probably more of a LMS thing to address.

I thought the same thing at first, but then when I came to my senses and
realized, say a season of 10, 1hour episodes (10 hours of listening)
could be reordered in under a minute, rather than asking a developer to
spend his time on a sort, I decided not to ask :)

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Re: [slim] Podcasts - play order

2022-01-05 Thread Redrum


This was discussed in this thread:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115402-Podcasts-in-order&p=1037836&viewfull=1#post1037836

The solution that I am currently using is as described with Material
Skin. It's pretty easy to take, say a season, add to queue, drag to
reorder, and save the queue (if you want)

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Re: [slim] Removing Tidal completely is not working...

2021-12-25 Thread Redrum


maybe uninstall or logout your credentials on mysqueezebox.com? I think
that's where LMS gets the tidal credentials from...Just a guess...

36531

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Re: [slim] Touch not connecting

2021-12-12 Thread Redrum


Let's start with a little more information...

>From your post, you have two players (each a touch) and Picoreplayer (as
an LMS server only? Or, as a third player?)

Are the touch's connected via ethernet or wifi?

When you say one "won't connect" can you explain? Won't connect to LMS?
Are both touches listed in the routers connected devices?

When you go to the LMS UI, do you see both touches as players you can
select?

A few things to try:

1) Make sure you are doing a factory reset of the badly behaving Touch.
Press the little button on the back until you get a reset message, or go
to settings->advanced->factory reset->continue
2) If the non connecting touch is on wifi, try on ethernet
3) If both touches are ethernet, try swapping them, see if the problem
follows the player. If one is ethernet, the other wifi, try swapping as
well
4) try swapping power supplies. They can be failing and still "work"
5) Reboot pcP, reboot router
6) give us a little more info :)



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Re: [slim] Can't connect

2021-12-10 Thread Redrum


I think I have to apologize for the over simplification in my previous
post. I tried not to. I tend to think of thing in terms of the physics
of the carrier, and maybe the affect on an amplitude modulated signal
(exposing my age). While maybe relevant, it's way too simplified to
consider it a way to solve things with regard to the complex wide band
multichannel digital modulation that is occurring. Way too many bits and
bytes flying around :)

I think I started out as a "try this and maybe it will indicate..."
approach. I tend to try to narrow things down to try to solve them.

It does make me curious to what exactly is wifi6 doing that is
detrimental to our sb radios, and does it affect other older wifi
devices?

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Re: [slim] Can't connect

2021-12-09 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> Yes, in message 9, he said, "I guess I pushed enough buttons enough
> times but I am connected now." My guess is that his earlier inability to
> connect was caused by something external, and that the button-pushing
> was unrelated to the resolution. I'm probably using the term RFI in a
> non-standard way: if a neighbor's WiFi6 implementation causes problems
> on your network, I consider that a type of RFI. Obviously, if the
> problem is your own WiFi6 implementation, that's a compatibility issue,
> not interference.
> 
> In cases where a nearby WiFi6 network causes problems, moving the radio
> closer to the router or access point wouldn't be likely to improve the
> situation, would it?

Sure, I would consider anything "undesirable" as the 'I' (interference)
part of RFI. I worked in an industry where we developed analog RF
products (infant monitors) but I was by no means the RF expert, I was
more the analog/digital electronic guy that just tried to understand the
voodoo that the real RF engineers were involved with. So I really only
have a cursory knowledge, although I did have to solve EMI problems in
my non RF designs (usually with their help :))

I truly don't have a detailed understanding of  wifi6 or most aspects of
networking and how or why it messes with our radios, but fundamentally I
would think that any time you and increase the signal of the desirable
and decrease the signal of the undesirable, you would eventually reach a
threshold where the undesirable has no impact (unless of course the
undesirable was so strong that this point could not be reached).

Think of the analogy of sound. You are a big room and someone you are
standing right next to you is yelling at you, and you can barely hear
your beloved sb playing your favorite song in the far corner of the
room. Walking toward the sb increases your ability to enjoy your song
and eventually you are no longer aware you are being yelled at :)

I do agree that perhaps a transient RFI event caused his outage (as he
had said it had been working all along), and when it finally went away
he was able to connect. That's why I mentioned using the wifi analyzer
tool, to see if his network was being stepped on.

Regardless, lets hope his connection problem is solved!

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Re: [slim] Can't connect

2021-12-09 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> The original poster said that he "must have pushed enough buttons,"
> because he was finally able to connect. That suggests to me that his
> problem might have been due to some other sort of RF interference,
> rather than a fixed network. I see similar situations sometimes with
> weather sensors, which also use UHF frequencies, although at the other
> end of that portion of the spectrum. One sensor might be blocked for a
> few minutes or a few hours. Sometimes when that one re-establishes a
> connection, the base will lose another sensor in a different location
> for some time.
> 
> I haven't yet thought of a likely moving source of RF interference that
> could cause that, so I have wondered if atmospheric conditions that
> cause RF signals to propagate in unusual ways could be to blame. I am
> certain there have been times in the past when I have briefly received
> very distant TV stations in the UHF band, probably due to "tropospheric
> ducting." Such anomalous conditions sometimes occur around the time of
> solstices and equinoxes, but they can occur anytime, sometimes triggered
> by solar activity. Sometimes a distant signal can come in so strongly
> that it swamps local transmitters.
> 
> There probably some people here who know much more than I do about RF,
> so I would like to hear what you think.

If only spectrum analyzers were affordable :) If RFI was suspected, I
would imagine that moving the radio to the "opposite side" of the router
should tell you if this is the case. Example, if the radio is on the
east side of the router, move it to the west, same with above/below. RF
energy decreases as the square of the distance (double the distance >
1/4 the power), so with the wifi range of the router, I would think
moving away from any (unknown) point source (or even just closer to the
router) would cause the RFI to be insignificant and the radio work as
expected. Unless of course the unknown source is very powerful. I'll
stop there :)

Robb, you caused me to reread the op's posts, and I am thinking that he
somehow resolved his issues and is up and running. It's been 2 days and
he hasn't been back where his messages were pretty frequent before. I
think we have all been there - something stops working, try this, try
that, factory reset, reset router, reboot pi/PC, etc, etc, then all of a
sudden things are working and we don't know why.

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Re: [slim] Can't connect

2021-12-07 Thread Redrum


Apesbrain wrote: 
> I'm envious of your wide open skies:
> 
> 

well, they are gray now, should be blue sometime in April :)

wow, yours looks dirty! Is it showing clients as well? I ask because I
see printers, fois, etc...

Mine is only showing networks, and the further I move away from my
router and my signal strength drops, other networks appear, but yea, I
am rural...

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Re: [slim] Can't connect

2021-12-07 Thread Redrum


In addition to the above thoughts, if you are curious to see what "may"
be happening regarding a neighbor's network and possible interference. I
use a free android app called "wifi analyzer" (maybe available on apple,
or similar?)

The image below shows my 2.4 Ghz network (redrumnet) - signal strength
and channels occupied, along with my neighbor's "Tate" (lower in signal
strength, and different channels). My neighbor to the other side is not
detected.

So, mine is obviously very clean and I would not expect any issue with
interference, but if you had allot of other networks at close to the
same signal strength, occupying some/all of the channels your network
does, then what Robb and Paul mention might be a factor. Obviously, use
the app where the radio is stationed.

Not saying this is any kind of solution, but it helps determine if
interference could be a contributor.

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Re: [slim] Preferred hardware?

2021-12-03 Thread Redrum


Alot of people are building their own with pi's, and others are buying
other devices (polyvection, etc), but I still have a soft spot for the
sb devices, and as you say, they have been affordable. I think feel they
were just superbly designed and engineered (with the exception of a
couple achillies heels).

I have been buying them up when I see a nice one cheap. I started with
duets/receivers, then on to touch, boom, radios. I agree with Paul, the
radio was last to own and most loved (for casual listening). The battery
is a game changer. Didn't know I needed one until I had one. Heck, when
you can get a radio around $50 USD why not. Often you can find some that
have been barely used (dug out of closet)

I also agree @waldo, the receivers I have, most are in a box, but a
couple still in use.

Since you run ethernet, a receiver would be fine, especially coupled
with an outboard dac. The touch sounds good with it's dac, but better
with a good outboard. I have found receivers to be sketchy on wifi (with
non ideal signal). There is also alot of talk of the wifi failing on
radios, although mine are all fine.

And like Paul said, your power supplies may need replacing.

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Re: [slim] Adding a DAC to Transporter

2021-11-19 Thread Redrum


I added a Schitt BiFrost (about $500USD at the time) to a modest system
in my cabin that is a touch->arcam 60wpc integrated->Klipsch KG1.5
bookshelves. I ran the analog from the touch to one set of inputs, and
digital from the touch to the Schitt via coax, then analog to another
input on the amp, thereby being able to A/B real time.

The touch DAC isn't bad but the difference is significant. Best way for
me to describe it is the music "came to life". I then compared the
schitt to audio through an Oppo BDP-105D on my home system (excellent
D/A, in it's time the 105 D/A upgrade was about $600 over the 103.) and
I could not tell a significant difference

The advice to audition one if you can is good, and A/B to the
transporter.

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Re: [slim] Playing music from a desktop computer?

2021-10-29 Thread Redrum


+1 for squeezelite-x, works great, especially with the material
interface
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108550-Announce-Squeezelite-X&highlight=squeezelite-x

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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

2021-10-24 Thread Redrum


Ive been listening to the FLAC stream through radio now playing on a
competent system (touch, decent schitt dac, 60wpc Arcam integrated,
older Klipsch bookshelf speakers with a small goldenear sub) and it
sounds quite good. A couple of observations:

1) Artwork lead (previously reported).
2) I had previously commented on "low gain" compared to other stations.
The "gain" has definitely increased, although it might still be a bit
below a few others I listen to- RP FLAC, Planet Radio US, etc. But quite
livable. Switching stations should not cause a huge volume
increase/decrease.
3) I just turned it up when Supertramp "school" played. A good audition
song. Sounded real good loud (louder than I would normally listen). I
quickly queued up my ripped copy without touching the volume, and found
the volume levels to be similar (no replay gain used) and the sound
quality was very similaras well (to my aging ears)

For what it's worth.no complaints, nice work Jim! 

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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

2021-10-22 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> Can't remember whether it was you or someone else who commented on the
> volume level - but it has been boosted up to try to match other stations

it was me :) early on

Travelling early in the am tomorrow, then looking forward to a weekend
of listening! Thanks for all the effort you put in to sharing your
collection with us Jim. Still wondering how you got access to allot of
my library :p

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Re: [slim] USB Remote controller

2021-10-15 Thread Redrum


mooblie wrote: 
> Start here:
> https://www.picoreplayer.org/
> ...and scroll down to "pCP Features" and click on one of those large
> "icons" in that section...
> 
> 
> (I must add: I hadn't seen those pages either! I've only seen the "docs"
> section before - or "help section" as I think they refer to it: )
> https://docs.picoreplayer.org/

ahh.thanks. I guess I never hovered my mousie over those pictures! 
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Re: [slim] USB Remote controller

2021-10-15 Thread Redrum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> See feature 7 here
> https://www.picoreplayer.org/landingzone_features.html

a small diversion to this discussion - I had never seen this page, great
info. But I tried to recreate how to get to it from the main pCP web
page, and couldn't find it? As my wife would say was I "looking like a
man"? :)

Jim



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Re: [slim] Some SqueezeAMP remaining.

2021-10-06 Thread Redrum


the_arm wrote: 
> Hi Philippe - I was trying to reach you via private message regarding
> the SqueezeAMPs you sent but it appears your inbox is full. If you see
> this can you let me know? Feel free to email me directly as you have
> that email if that's preferable. thank you!

I'm not philippe ;), but you can contact him via email, see the first
post in this thread
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113281-Another-batch-of-SqueezeAMP&highlight=squeezeamp

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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

2021-09-09 Thread Redrum


about 4:45 PM est USA. Flac Stream - using Paul's radio now playing
plugin - new order played, then talk talk "it's my life" artwork in sync
(talk talk) - stream stopped, say 10 seconds, new order played again,
but artwork remained for talk talk (frozen), then talk talk again, then
the next song (dylan?) still with talk talk artwork.

powered radio on and off - stream played but still talk talk artwork.

restarted lms - jimi hendrix with correct artwork.

Jim



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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

2021-09-09 Thread Redrum


Hi Jim;

Listening and enjoying extensively since you recruited us. I am
wondering how you got a hold of my collection though :)

I am wondering if you are interested on observations regarding content
and your song selection algorithms If no, please ignore...I noticed a
couple of things:

1) Same artists occur multiple times within a few hours. Yesterday it
was McCartney and Dylan, and . McCartney was 3 times
in, say 3 hours. Maybe it was because of solo vs Wings.
2) I like the genre segments, but seems to dwell in one for a quite a
while. There was a jazz/fusion segment a couple days ago (Miles Davis,
Weather Report, etc) that lasted a long time. The day after it was
Disco/Funk/Soul. I wonder if someone might tune in, listen for a while,
and not realize how diverse your station is and think "oh, this is a
Jazz station" Don't get me wrong I LOVE hearting all of it. I was part
of the "Disco Sucks" group when I was younger, but have grown to
appreciate it

I think my previous comment about you liking clapton :) was a combo of
the above. It was in a blue segment, and selected Clapton solo, Derek
and the Dominos (a fav), Clapton and BB King, Blind Faith.

Finally, I heard Arzachel...wow! I don't think I have ever heard that on
internet radio. Hawkwind maybe :D I really enjoyed hearing that again. I
have it on vinylsomewhere

Thanks again for some great listening
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Re: [slim] Your player not authorized to use MYsqueezbox.com

2021-09-06 Thread Redrum


Shivaji wrote: 
> I'm not enamored with the idea of needing the computer to be running to
> enjoy the Touch. 

You don't need a "computer" (as in mac or PC) you can install LMS on a
raspberry pi single board computer (less than $50 USD), plug it into
your router, connect your touch. Think of it as an "accessory" to turbo
charge your touch :) LMS provides a significant amount of features,
function, and services over mysb.com Trust me/us, you will enjoy the
touch even more running off LMS.

mysb.com has not had new development in years, it exists as a legacy
service, and therefore can be limited in functionality. 

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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

2021-09-05 Thread Redrum


I spent the day yesterday non critical listening on a sb radio. Loved
the widely varied content. Spooky Tooth's version of "I am the Walrus"?
Where else you going to hear that? Great cover.

My listening time (10am - 5pm EST) seemed slightly Clapton weighted at
first, not that that was a problem. He was/is in so many bands and
collaborations. :)

The one thing I noticed (on the Radio, not critical listening) is the
gain seemed quite low compared to many other internet radio streams.
Take Radio Paradise for example. The only "problem" is causes is the
volume shock switching back to the higher gain stations after listening
to a lower one. I have always been curious how different stations
determine what to set their signal "gain" at.

Thank you for the station by the way. I'll happily be listening again!

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Re: [slim] Radio stations don't get updated

2021-07-29 Thread Redrum


verycd wrote: 
> Oh I see. I saw one rarely-used 3B+ called 'Abox'
> (https://the-gadgeteer.com/2018/10/05/abox-raspberry-pi-3b-starter-kit-review/)
> (16G  version) for 50 CAD online, not cheap. The RAM size is small for
> scanning large library. One need to download on another machine and
> transfer music to the harddrive if it is not practical to install other
> software and keep the HHD attached to the same 3B+ and do the
> downloading.

I was just offering my observations of a 3b+ (1GB) and 4 (2GB). I don't
notice the difference, but because I don't pay attention, probably
because a 3b+ has worked fine for me.

I just checked and I have about 16,000 tracks, 1,300 albums in my
library. The last rescan (update, not wipe and rescan) took about 7
minutes. My server is a pi 3b+ with a 2TB USB HDD (not solid state). I
have it setup with the LMS data and cache on a third partition on the SD
card (helps in recovery from power failures).

Explaining a bit more (since you are new to picore). I have my library
"master" on my PC's. I use SAMBA on picore (allows access to the pi HDD)
and freefilesync (free PC software) to sync my library on the PC to the
Pi HDD. So, I rip an new album to the PC, fix the tags, run ffs, then
rescan. One nice benefit is I also use Samba/ffs to backup my critical
PC files (photos, documents, etc) to the pi HDD. I also have a cabin
with an identical setup, so I have "off site" backup/redundancy.

All of that for $100 (pi and HDD) per location - thank you pcp team and
this community!! :D

Back to your post. I don't know the mechanisms of a scan (maybe someone
in the know can explain), but i image that scan data is paged back and
forth between the RAM and SD (cache). Could this be a dynamic page size
(based on available RAM) and occur faster with more RAM? I don't know.
Like I said, it doesn't matter how long a scan takes for me.

I'm not 100% clear on what you are trying to do, what you are building,
perhaps you could clarify. Post your goal here and we will help you get
there

Finally, $50 CAD is about $40 USD, sounds like a nice deal! I'd buy it
:)

Jim



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