Re: [slim] Re: slimtray.exe not working
Colin, What happens if you double click on the SlimTray icon on the botton right of your toolbar? If you get the same error, try going to your SlimServer installation directory (c:\Program Files\SlimServer for most people) using Windows Explorer and looking for a file called SlimServer Web Interface. Do you get the same error when you double click on it? What icon does it have? Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.1.1
Slim Devices is excited to announce the release of SlimServer 6.1.1. SlimServer 6.1.1 can be downloaded now from http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html. Highlights of the release include: * Support for SqueezeNetwork, Slim Devices' always-on service. * Improvements to Internet Radio, including a Web Interface for the Shoutcast, radioio and Live365 radio directories. * Many performance improvements to browsing, scanning and playing your music library. * Better support for Podcasts, includung quick links to your iTunes Podcasts and a Podcast Plugin for browsing podcast directories on the web. * Many more improvements and bug fixes since the beta releases. Detailed SlimServer 6.1.1 release notes are available at http://www.slimdevices.com/su_changelog.html. Once you've installed SlimServer 6.1.1, you can connect to SqueezeNetwork with your Squeezebox2: * Connect your Squeezebox2 to SqueezeNetwork by choosing the SqueezeNetwork item from the Squeeezebox Home menu or the Squeezebox2 Setup menu. * Visit http://www.squeezenetwork.com to create an account, add one or more players to your account, control your players remotely, and add Favorites RSS Feeds * Enjoy many of your favorite Squeezebox2 features - Internet Radio, RSS News, Alarm Clock (including many fun new alarm sounds) - without a computer, as well as new features such as Natural Sounds and the Live Music Archive. Thanks to our community for making this the best software release to date. As always, we'd love to hear your feedback. Post your comments to this forum or on http://bugs.slimdevices.com. The Slim Devices Team ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Cricket on the squeezebox
Triode wrote: Are you willing to restrict the plugin to players with a graphical display, or even just SB2? In this case you can send a bitmap to the display by calling $client-update($parts) with $parts-{bits} = a string containing a display bitmap in it. The bitmap is a 32x320 bits arranged as 4x320 bytes. You probably want to prerender the images and then do minimal work if you are rapidly writing to the display. Have a look at slimtetris in 6.1 to see how graphics are written to the screen or ask more questions. BTW - Does it pray for rain as well? A wonderful addition to SlimServer would be code that sends correctly sized animated GIFs to the Squeezebox screen. Extra credit if it works for both graphical SB1 and SB2 with appropriate scaling. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 24 bit flac files?
Firmware 15 contains a fix for a specific problem that resulted in bad playback of specific flac files, including some 24-bit/48KHz tracks and some encoded by dbpoweramp. Bugs 1820 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1820) and 1508 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508) covered the cases that were fixed. If you have issues with specific FLAC files, please open a new bug. Is it possible that the hiccup problem you're hearing is related to bandwidth issues on your wireless network? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Cricket on the squeezebox
Jacob Potter wrote: ... Remember the early photoshops of a certain tubular music player that included cover art on the display? I try to block such things out. But I do remember the prototype posted by Paul Colley a while ago (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=11061) that dealt with scrolling album art - quite ingenious. If someone were interested in completing the job he started and packaging it up as a plugin, I'm sure he/she would be quite popular. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Playlist problem
This was a problem with r3757 - a last minute change that needed a bit more testing - fixed with 3759 and the soon-to-be posted 6.1.0. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 24 bit flac files?
Michel, You are playing to an unsynced SB2, is that correct? If so, could you post to the bug report a debug log with --d_source of you playing the WAV and the FLAC files? Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Small font duplicate text on brand new SB 2 display
The easiest solution would be to get rid of the file c:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\slimserver.pref. If you have preferences for your old SB1 that you want to preserve, you may have to manually edit the file. If not, just remove the file and restart SlimServer. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wmadec source
Check http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/tools/wmadec/ if you just want to browse. You'll want to check out with Subversoin (http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html#subversion) if you want to do more. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Spectrum Analyzer reversed?
A.J. Aranyosi wrote: snip After taking a quick peek at the code, though, I'm guessing that the FFT for the spectrum analyzer is computed within the Squeezebox 2 itself, so this particular change would have to be implemented in firmware (and maybe not even then, if the FFT is done in hardware). The specturm analyzer and FFT are computed in firmware. The FFT library used is Kiss FFT (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kissfft/). While the firmware is not open-sourced, a close facsimile of the spectrum analyzer generation can be found within Richard Titmuss' excellent Softsqueeze (see http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/softsqueeze/src/com/slim/softsqueeze/visualizer/VisualizerSpectrumAnalyser.java?rev=3039view=markup). Any submissions to improve the spectrum analyzer within Softsqueeze could potentially be ported back to the SB2...keeping in mind that the code will need to run in a fixed-point, memory-constrained embedded environment. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 24 bit flac files?
Also, take a look at bug 1508 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508). It relates to a problem that sounds similar to the one initially described in this thread (constant pops and static over the top of the music), but isn't specific to 24-bit 48KHz files. If the symptoms are indeed the same, I'd be very curious to see a sample file and look for similarities between the two FLAC files. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.1b1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta
Mitch Harding wrote: 30 minutes or so after I started it, the scan is done. The playlists are once again visible, and they load fairly quickly. So it all looks good now, other than the All Artists/All Albums thing. The All Albums item is as designed. You will generally see a 'All xxx at every level of the hierarchy, where xxx represents the next level down - albums when you're viewing artists, songs when you're viewing albums. An All Artists link while browsing artists would just get you to the same page, no? --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.1b1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta
dip wrote: ... I think that's not true. When I browse artists I should get an All artists line first followed by the artists seperately listed. I can than either play or add specific artists to the now playing playlist or all artists by using the first line. The same is true for albums, genre and so on. All Albums emcompasses all the tracks associated with All Artists. So hitting play or add on All Albums accomplishes the goal of getting the songs of all artists. It's also a shortcut down to the next level of the hierarchy, not filtered by a specific artist. I'm not disputing your notion of what's intuitive to you, I'm just saying that's the way it's been for quite a while. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver ogg2flac
Nikolaj, Which endian switch did you need to change? What OS/CPU are you running? Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.1b1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta
Whoa. Lots to respond to. - The SqueezeNetwork PIN asssociated with each player is a way to associate your Squeezebox2 (or many of them) with your SqueezeNetwork account. When you first connect your SB2 to the SqueezeNetwork, it will display a PIN. Subsequently, you can always find it when connected to SqueezeNetwork via Settings Squeezebox PIN. Note that this PIN is a time-limited randomly-generated number sequence that does change, so don't be surprised if you see a different number the next time you look. Of course, you'll only need it once per player to associate your SB2 with your SN account. - You do need to upgrade to SlimServer 6.1b1 before connecting to the SqueezeNetwork - both use firmware 14. If you connected using an earlier firmware revision, you'll be forced to update firmware. - Press and hold PAUSE to stop the player. - You can install a new version of SlimServer over an older version without uninstalling on Windows and Mac. On rpm-based Linux distributions you will have to do a rpm -U. Hope that helps. Let me know if I missed anything. --Vidur glmason wrote: Well I'm sure I went about the whole thing the wrong way... But it does illistrate a point. It was before work, so not a lot of time, I was signing up for the Squeezenetwork and needed the Pin (so I had not really signed up yet) I looked for the pin via the sever's web interface, could find anything like it... so I thought oh must be the setting on the SB2. So went to the living room to use the remote on the SB2. Found setting (BTW I had not downloaded or set up the 6.1b1, though I did have the 6.1 from some nightly build I guess) but I was just going to look for the pin - I thought that the pin might be in the SB2 firmware or something like a MAC address, burned in at manufacture time. So I found player info, but still not pin... there was something about squeezenetwork info so I press that button... so the SB2 starts updating firmware... interups the music - my wife is trying to listen to meditation music... I'm not ready for this... but there is no cancel buton on the remote. So I guess because I did not have the 6.1b1 installed when I signed off the network the SB2 didn't know where else to go. The remote needs somekind of OBVIOUS oh hell I didn't mean that button, I've run in to other problems like that where I wish I could just stop what is happening but there is no stop cancel or go back button (it is true that the right arrow preforms this function... BUT from a consumer products point of view, and from non-geek user prespective, the remote is not as intuitive as a toaster yet. A lot of hidden meaning. I understand that this is all beta stuff, so I'm not complaining, just passing on information about usibility. In addition the lack of a stop button means that when I turn things off at night and try to start a new playlist in the morning the buffer is still full of the previous playlist and I get some funky sounds - a sorta SB2 buffer re-mix. I would be nice to have a clear way to stop the player at night, not just pause it, clearing the buffer. So don't get me wrong I think this is a great system and I love my SB2 and I'm only trying to help. So I'll go back home tonight after beginning to peice all the infomation together and try installing every thing the correct way. But also no one answered Khuli's question, and I had the same question when I installed 6.1... can we install over the top of an older version, so should we uninstall then reinstall? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.1b1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta
Hrm...I don't know how that got in there. Bug 1311 is still open as an enhancement in the bug database. Speaking of enhancements, where can I file one for more hours in the day?. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio, a bit of help needed
As I said I haven't used it for a while so I'm probably missing something stupid. Nope - the fault is ours, not yours. The problem seems to occur if you use iTunes and do not have an audio directory set up. That should be unrelated to radio, I know, but it isn't. We'll be putting the fix into a re-rolled 6.1b1 tonight. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.1b1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta
Slim Devices would like to announce the release of SlimServer 6.1 Beta 1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta. Download here: http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_beta.html Highlights of the SlimServer 6.1b1 release include: * Support for Slim Devices' Always-On Network Service: SqueezeNetwork on your Squeezebox2. * Improvements to our support for Internet Radio, including a Web Interface for the Shoutcast, radioio and Live365 radio directories. * Many performance improvements to browsing, scanning and playing your music library. * A new Podcast Plugin that allows you to use your Squeezebox to listen to your favorite podcasts...or browse some of our presets. * Many more improvements and bug fixes. You can read the detailed SlimServer 6.1b1 release notes at http://www.slimdevices.com/su_changelog.html. To use the SqueezeNetwork Beta, you will need to update your Squeezebox2 firmware to revision 14 (included with SlimServer 6.1b1). You can then: * Connect your Squeezebox2 to SqueezeNetwork by choosing the SqueezeNetwork item from the player's Main Menu or from the Squeezebox2 Setup Menu. * Visit http://www.squeezenetwork.com to create an account, associate one or more players with your account, control your players remotely, and share Favorites RSS Feeds. * Enjoy many of your favorite Squeezebox2 features - Internet Radio, RSS News, Alarm Clock (including many fun new alarm sounds) - without a computer. Please give both SlimServer 6.1b1 and SqueezeNetwork Beta a try. As always, post feedback to this forum and file bugs at http://bugs.slimdevices.com. The Slim Devices Team ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Internet Radio - No Title/Name
Ah...Winamp is concatenating the station name to the track information sent by the station. We currently only show the latter. If you hit right from the Now Playing screen, you should see the name of the station. Alternatively, you can file an enhancement request at http://bugs.slimdevices.com requesting that the station name be shown along with current track information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 24 bit flac files?
Josh Coalson tested SB2 FLAC support (http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#review_squeezebox2) and was able to play back 24-bit 48KHz tracks. We currently do not support (either directly or with transcoding) 96KHz tracks. If you're having problems with the former, please file a bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com and attach an example. Thanks! --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SqueezeNetwork Alpha up and running...
Expect to see in the near future, a web interface for the SqueezeNetwork always-on functionality. This will allow you to edit your favorites from a browser. Unfortunately, the mms: stream that you mention will not be immediately available through the SqueezeNetwork. Radio stations currently stream directly to your Squeezebox, so we only support formats decoded natively by the SB2 - MP3 today (and FLAC, but that's not significant in the context of streaming). --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed
Steve Baumgarten wrote: snip Which brings me back to my initial post on this, and why I was so surprised to find that Browse Music Folder took so long in 6.0.2. You're right - I believe there is scope for substantial improvement here. Please file an enhancement bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com, assign it to me and target it for 6.1. Thanks! --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Curiosities whilst connecting SB2 to wireless network
Curious, indeed. The firmware revisions that shipped with 6.0.1 (v9) and 6.0.2 (v11) both fixed incompatibilities with access points. If your SB2 shipped with a firmware revision earlier than v9 (I think only true for boxes that shipped in the first week or so after the SB2 launch), that would explain what you saw. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0.2 Release Candidate
Andrew, Please see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13390 for information about compiling the required Perl modules for your architecture. Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24 bit flac files?
I suspect that the problem is specific to the SB1. We expect the output of any of our transcoding helper applications to be 44.1KHz, 16-bit, stereo PCM (the only PCM format supported by the SB1 hardware). I'm guessing that flac is providing us with 24-bit samples, and SlimServer doesn't yet scale or resample to the required format. The relevant bugs for SB1 support of alternate sample sizes and sample rates are: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624 --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.0.2 Release Candidate
Phillip Kerman wrote: Looks pretty good for me so far. One weird thing, on my SB2 I got into a situation where the FLACs (I didn't test anything else) played in FF mode. I even turned it off then on again and it would be playing FF. I think I recovered by pressing and holding the | button. By the way, how is SB supposed to be able to play FF? Exactly, what features are supported and how does one access them? You can play in FF mode (2x, 4x, 8x, etc.) by pressing and holding the FWD button. Press PLAY to return to regular speed. The FF scanning modes play 1 second of audio out of every x seconds (where x is the scan rate). --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.0.2 released
We're happy to announce a maintenance release of SlimServer 6.0.2. As always, the latest release is available for download (and Torrent) via http://www.slimdevices.com/download. This releases fixes several bugs in the previous 6.0.x releases. For a full list of changes, please see http://www.slimdevices.com/su_changelog.html. Thanks to all those involved in finding and fixing issues addressed in this release. As always, we will continue to fix issues as they come up. Please continue to provide us feedback on this list and, when appropriate, on http://bugs.slimdevices.com. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0.2 Release Candidate
Hmmm...the Favorites plugin is a 6.1 feature and seems to depend on 6.1 APIs. I presume you went from 6.1 to 6.0.2. For now, please manually remove it from your Plugins directory. Craig, James (IT) wrote: So um I can't be the only person 6.0.2 doesn't work for? Undefined subroutine Slim::Buttons::Common::setFunction called at C:/Program Files/SlimServer v6/server/Plugins/Favorites/Plugin.pm line 211. ! James - NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2 missing end of FLAC files
chrisal wrote: Radish - keep us posted on your progress - this is a crucial feature for me too. I haven't got an SB2 yet so this could be a show stopper if it's a widespread bug. Does anyone actually have this working successfully? Yes - gapless playback of FLAC files on SB2 is a working and tested feature. I suspect that the problem radish is hitting is related to another bug that he's also seeing http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1289. Still working on that one. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synchronisation Results In Song Repetition
It does sound like a bug. Please file at http://bugs.slimdevices.com, ideally with steps to reproduce. Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Does SB2 support WPA2 (AES encryption) ?
Peter, Please file a bug with details about your particular setup at http://bugs.slimdevices.com. Thanks, --Vidur Pétur wrote: G... I see you guys got WPA (TKIP) working at all, I'm stuck here with WEP :( I'm connecting Ad-Hoc to a wireless network card from GigaByte (GN-WPKG) using 1.41 drivers (latest), and when I set it to WPA (either TKIP or AES) my SB2 refuses to connect to the server. Using latest versions of SB2 and server. Any tips welcome Peter ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Standby?
earthbased wrote: It appears that SB2 is in constant communication with the PC slim server is running on, even when it is powered off by the remote. Are there any plans to implement a standby feature which would allow the slim server PC to go into standby? The SB2 could wake up the slim server pc and vice versa. This would be eco-friendly. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Can't call method can on unblessed reference
windy wrote: No, I was wrong. It's still crashing. Most frequently when I try to lower the volume. Can't call method can on unblessed reference at D:/Program Files/SlimServer/se rver/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm line 383. 6.1 22/4 WinXP I am using the RSS screensaver but it wasn't active (as far as I know) when the server crashed. Fixed on 4/22 (http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/checkins/2005-April/005334.html). Should be good in the latest 6.1 nightlies. Thanks. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Windows Media Surround sound
On Windows, we use a utility called wmadec to decode Windows Media files. The utility attempts to decode WMA to 44.1KHz 16-bit stereo PCM. I don't believe it's ever been tested with 5.1 audio and I can believe that it doesn't work (I presume you are expecting it to be transcoded to stereo, right?). Please file a bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com and, if possible, attach a sample file. Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] AAC with original SliMP3
Have you installed LAME? See http://www.slimdevices.com/su_faq.html#troubleshooting-aacwireless. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: AAC with original SliMP3
Sorry, I see from your log that you do have LAME installed. QuickTime error -3000 (coming from mov123.exe) is errBadComponent. Perhaps you have to install a newer version of QuickTime? Also, I'm assuming that the .m4a files do not have any DRM. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: AAC with original SliMP3
Adlopa wrote: QuickTime is the latest version and the AAC files are DRM-free... :( Are you using Windows 2003 Server? If so, take a look at http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805. Let me know if the suggestion there - using an older version of mov123.exe - works for you. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] upgrading from firmware revision 10
The SB2 firmware image in the 6.0.2 nightly build has been bumped to revision 11 and the image in the 6.1 nightly has been bumped to 12. These revisions now include a fix for a problem connecting to certain 3Com access points. If you are running firmware 10, which has been included in the 6.1 nightlies for the last week or so, you may run into a problem upgrading to either of the new firmware revisions. The firmware upgrade progress bar will get to 100%, but the machine will not reboot. You will have to press and hold the Power button for the firmware revision to take. Again, this is ONLY if you are running the 6.1 (unstable) development nightly builds. If you are running 6.0.1 or the 6.0.2 nightly build, the upgrade process should be smooth. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Unwanted 'synchronisation'
Greg and radish, Any luck getting a new log with the debug output patch? If so, please attach to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1289. Thanks, --Vidur Vidur Apparao wrote: The behavior you describe is consistent with my speculation of what might be happening. When SlimServer completes streaming a track to the SB2, it should close the streaming socket for that track. This is an indication that there is no more data for that stream (the data itself does not contain an end-of-stream marker). If, and only if, the streaming socket has been closed, the device sends a decoder underrun message when it finishes decoding the audio - this can be several seconds to minutes after the socket has been closed, depending on how much audio fits into the SB2's input audio buffer. The decoder underrun message is an indicator to SlimServer that it should start streaming the next track. I'm speculating that the server isn't closing the streaming socket for some reason, resulting in a severely delayed decoder underrun message. The patch with the debug output hopefully will help me figure out why. --Vidur radish wrote: Thanks for looking into this Vidur. I'll have a go at applying the patch and running another test tonight if I get time. To answer a couple of your points: These players were synched once, when I first got the SB2 maybe a couple of weeks ago. It didn't work quite how I liked (when synched the players introduced short gaps between tracks which weren't there if not synched) so I disabled it after like 20 mins. The server has been upgraded at least twice and bounced many times since then. To clarify a little about what happens when the SB2 stalls - as it's approaching the end of the track everything is normal. Then, roughly 7 or 8 seconds before the end, the display locks up but the music still plays to the end of the track. The display remains stuck until it wakes back up again when the SB1 changes track. If I use the remote while it's locked I can skip to the next track manually and it works fine. But it will lock up again at the next transition. The network is wireless, but with good signal strength and the bitrate is ~1mbps (FLAC). I should also point out that the SB1 playback never has any problems, and if the SB1 isn't playing, neither does the SB2. This only occurs when both players are playing at once. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't call method can on unblessed reference
windy wrote: I'm running nightly 6.1 from 2005-04-19 on Windows XP. Every now and then I get this error: Can't call method can on unblessed reference at D:/Program Files/SlimServer/se rver/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm line 383. and the server dies. It can happen for example when I lower the volume or press left in now playing ... Anything I can try before visiting bugs.slimdevices.com? A fix to this problem caused by the RSS screensaver went into the 6.1 tree on 4/19 - should be available in latest 6.1 nightlies. If you're not using the RSS screensaver, please file a bug. Thanks! --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Unwanted 'synchronisation'
The debug log definitely shows that the SB2 seems stalled from sometime after 22:40:16 till 22:46:39. The former time is when we finish streaming the FLAC track to the player, though it may be many seconds before the SB2 actually finishes playing the track. The latter time is when SlimServer receives a decoder underrun event from the SB2, implying that the input buffer of the device is empty and it's ready for the next track. Again, there should be a delta between the first time and the point where we get the decoder underrun event - this represents the audio in the SB2's input buffer which can be several seconds to minutes long, depending on the bitrate of the audio and the bandwidth of the network. However, that delta definitely shouldn't be over 6 minutes. A question - were these two players synchronized and then unsynchronized anytime prior to grabbing the debug log? I've attached a small source code patch that provides a bit more debug output. If you need help applying the patch, feel free to contact me off-list at vidur | at | slimdevices.com. Greg, the log you posted to bug 1289 isn't as clear about what's going on. If you're able to recreate with the attached patch, I'd appreciate it. Thanks for your help! --Vidur Index: Slim/Player/Source.pm === --- Slim/Player/Source.pm (revision 3007) +++ Slim/Player/Source.pm (working copy) @@ -583,6 +583,7 @@ # A zero length chunk is a marker for the end of the stream. # If we see one, close the outgoing connection. if (!$len) { + $::d_source msg(Found an empty chunk on the queue - this means we should drop the streaming connection.\n); Slim::Web::HTTP::forgetClient($client); $chunk = undef; } @@ -873,9 +874,11 @@ my $client = shift; if (!scalar(@{$client-chunks})) { + $::d_source msg(No pending chunks - we're dropping the streaming connection\n); Slim::Web::HTTP::forgetClient($client); } else { + $::d_source msg(There are pending chunks - queue an empty chunk and wait till the chunk queue is empty before dropping the connection.\n); push @{$client-chunks}, \''; } foreach my $buddy (Slim::Player::Sync::syncedWith($client)) { ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Not all songs showing up
To diagnose this problem, it would be great to get debug output with the --d_info and --d_scan debug flags on when you do a rescan. To get this output, shut down SlimServer, launch a Terminal window, cd to the SlimServer directory (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server for most people, the same path with a ~ prepended to it for others), and type: ./slimserver.pl --d_info --d_scan Choose Rescan under the Server Settings of the web interface after doing this and send the terminal output (you can cutpaste or redirect to a file) to me at vidur | at | slimdevices.com. Thanks, --Vidur bmccarthy wrote: I am using the original Squeezebox and I have just recently found that it is only seeing about half of the songs in my iTunes library. I am on Mac OSX 10.3.8 connecting over a mixed G/B wireless network. One non-standard feature of my set up is that I have my tunes all stored on an external drive. It played all the songs in my library for the last couple of years, but now no luck. The song count is half what it should be and several of the playlists show empty. Also, many songs I attempt to play from the Squeezebox (as opposed to the Web interface) don't play but display STOPPED on the display. A couple of things have changed recently that could be behind it. First, I upgraded the Slim Server software recently to version 6.0.1 because the Squeezebox was having frequent trouble connecting to Slim Server (even though it found the network fine). Also, I recently updated to iLife '05, which upgraded iTunes to version 4.7.1 (30). Not sure which event triggered the problem. I followed the suggestions in the FAQ about changing the path for the iTunes library and changing it back with no luck. I also changed the preferences so the Slim Server starts when I log in to get around the problem of the external drive not being mounted right away. I also tried their suggestions about changing the Keep Music Folder Organized settings. I've done all this twice but with no results. Any suggestions? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Unwanted 'synchronisation'
Would it be possible for you to post debug output with the --d_source debug flag turned on? Let me know if you need instructions for getting the debug log. Thanks, --Vidur radish wrote: Thanks for the suggestions - the MAC addresses are different, and the web interface sees them as different players, with their own configs. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2: MAC address in bridging mode
Michael Herger wrote: Does SB2 report another MAC address to a dhcp server, whent it's in bridging mode? If yes, how do I know it? SB2 uses the same MAC address on both network interfaces. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Playlist sorting with iTunes
webdeck wrote: I run SlimServer on my Mac and use iTunes to manage my music and playlist. I have the iTunes playlist prefix and suffix set to the empty string. Prior to 6.0, my iTunes playlists would be sorted along with the other non-iTunes playlists, like zapped songs, etc., and the numeric keypad would jump to the correct playlist in the alphabet. After upgrading to 6.x, that is no longer the case. non-iTunes playlists are sorted above the iTunes playlists, and the number keys only jump to non-iTunes playlists. Since all of my playlists are iTunes playlists, this is very inconvenient. Can the behavior be changed back to the pre-6.0 behavior? It sounds like a regression. Could I ask you to file a bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com? Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2 - It Does The Business!
Lars Chr. Hausmann wrote: rwh == rwh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rwh Likewise. Solid! Quite impressive! Well done, you slim guys! I'd like to add my compliments as well. Just got my SB2. Play nicely :-) I do, however, have problems getting it to join my WLAN towards my AP which is madwifi driver running in Master mode. It doesnt want to establish a connection :-/ Any body seen anything similar ? Lars, Could you file a bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com under the Squeezebox2 product category with full details of your madwifi setup (e.g. wireless card, Linux flavor, whether bridging is on, etc.). Thanks. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver has gone slightly mad
Christian Pernegger wrote: Sorry, hit send a little too soon. My log has lots of these: --- Monkey's Audio Console Front End (v 3.99) (c) Matthew T. Ashland --- Decompressing... Error: 1002 Apparently slimserver has skipped a few songs at the end of the pl it couldn't play for whatever reason, thus arriving at the beginning of the playlist. However, the displayed info didn't get updated. Thus it's playing the first song of the pl but displaying the info of the first unplayable song and so on. The files in question look to be regular .apes, worked fine until recently. Christian, If you can recreate this problem, can you run with the --d_source debug flag and post the log? Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: The New Crack - Phillips RC9800i
ron thigpen wrote: Jonas Karlsson wrote: This link might be of interest. http://perlupnp.sourceforge.net/ heh. did you notice who the admin/developer is on this one? see: http://sourceforge.net/projects/perlupnp Heh. The project is a little stale - an offshoot of the original RealSlim plugin. I think it's a good start to add UPnP support as and when it makes sense to SlimServer, but the PerlUPnP project will probably need a little TLC before it's ready for primetime. *Sigh*, another personal project that isn't getting the attention it needs. :-( --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: [Slim-Checkins] r2927 - in branches/browsedb/server: Plugins/MusicMagic Slim/Buttons
Kevin, I noticed you resurrected the old mixer code in BrowseDB.pm (the bit that modifies the current mode parameters and pushes into INPUT.List). As Robert indicated in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13543, this won't work since we use INPUT.List for browsedb. Specifically, popping out of the mixer list will probably create a few problems. --Vidur Modified: branches/browsedb/server/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm === --- branches/browsedb/server/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm 2005-04-10 17:11:01 UTC (rev 2926) +++ branches/browsedb/server/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm 2005-04-10 20:33:48 UTC (rev 2927) @@ -200,9 +200,46 @@ }, 'create_mix' = sub { - my $client = shift; - - # XXX Mixer functions will need to be rewritten + my $client = shift; + + my $Imports = Slim::Music::Import::importers(); + + my @mixers = (); + + for my $import (keys %{$Imports}) { + + if (defined $Imports-{$import}-{'mixer'} $Imports-{$import}-{'use'}) { + push @mixers, $import; + } + } + + if (scalar @mixers == 1) { + + $::d_plugins msg(Running Mixer $mixers[0]\n); + {$Imports-{$mixers[0]}-{'mixer'}}($client); + + } elsif (@mixers) { + + my $params = $client-modeParameterStack(-1); + $params-{'listRef'} = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; + $params-{'stringExternRef'} = 1; + + $params-{'header'} = 'INSTANT_MIX'; + $params-{'headerAddCount'} = 1; + $params-{'callback'} = \mixerExitHandler; + + $params-{'overlayRef'} = sub { return (undef, Slim::Display::Display::symbol('rightarrow')) }; + + $params-{'overlayRefArgs'} = ''; + $params-{'valueRef'} = \$mixer; + + Slim::Buttons::Common::pushModeLeft($client, 'INPUT.List', $params); + + } else { + + # if we don't have mix generation, then just play + (getFunctions())-{'play'}($client); + } }, ); } ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: [Slim-Checkins] r2927 - in branches/browsedb/server: Plugins/MusicMagic Slim/Buttons
Oopswrong list. Sorry. Vidur Apparao wrote: Kevin, I noticed you resurrected the old mixer code in BrowseDB.pm (the bit that modifies the current mode parameters and pushes into INPUT.List). As Robert indicated in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13543, this won't work since we use INPUT.List for browsedb. Specifically, popping out of the mixer list will probably create a few problems. --Vidur Modified: branches/browsedb/server/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm === --- branches/browsedb/server/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm2005-04-10 17:11:01 UTC (rev 2926) +++ branches/browsedb/server/Slim/Buttons/BrowseDB.pm2005-04-10 20:33:48 UTC (rev 2927) @@ -200,9 +200,46 @@ }, 'create_mix' = sub { -my $client = shift; - -# XXX Mixer functions will need to be rewritten +my $client = shift; + +my $Imports = Slim::Music::Import::importers(); + +my @mixers = (); + +for my $import (keys %{$Imports}) { + +if (defined $Imports-{$import}-{'mixer'} $Imports-{$import}-{'use'}) { +push @mixers, $import; +} +} + +if (scalar @mixers == 1) { + +$::d_plugins msg(Running Mixer $mixers[0]\n); +{$Imports-{$mixers[0]}-{'mixer'}}($client); + +} elsif (@mixers) { + +my $params = $client-modeParameterStack(-1); +$params-{'listRef'} = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; +$params-{'stringExternRef'} = 1; + +$params-{'header'} = 'INSTANT_MIX'; +$params-{'headerAddCount'} = 1; +$params-{'callback'} = \mixerExitHandler; + +$params-{'overlayRef'} = sub { return (undef, Slim::Display::Display::symbol('rightarrow')) }; + +$params-{'overlayRefArgs'} = ''; +$params-{'valueRef'} = \$mixer; + +Slim::Buttons::Common::pushModeLeft($client, 'INPUT.List', $params); + +} else { + +# if we don't have mix generation, then just play +(getFunctions())-{'play'}($client); +} }, ); } ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mis-match song playing and web-interface
That sounds like http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1220 (the web interface doesn't update, but the player interface does). This is distinct from http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1329 (the player interface is wrong as well). We're working on both. Thanks, --Vidur Tourne wrote: I have something similar but not quite the same. In the SlimServer window on the server, the highlighted song in the play list doesn't change at all, so the first played song remains highlighted. However, in the now playing area and on the Slimp3 display, the correct information about the current song is shown. This seems to be consistent behaviour. If I then add songs to the playlist, it causes the display of the playlist to be refreshed and the currently playing song becomes highlighted. Then, this song remains highlighted as the current song moves on. Tourne shaboyi Wrote: appears to be a bug with 6.0.x 4/8 windows -- a couple of times the web interface and display will indicate it is playing the song in a playlist that is the one before the song that is actually playing (refreshing the browser does not change it). this continues as the next song plays (ie, it is always one behind in terms of what is actually playing). it is odd. does not occurr all the time. Any ideas? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.0.1 bugs
Ben Sandee wrote: On Apr 11, 2005 11:50 AM, jmpage2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else experience the same thing with browse by artist not going to the top of the artist list for certain letters? Yes I've seen this (on my Slimp3's). It seems to be aggravated by my extensive use of TSOP tags (performer sort order). It's not new (for me) in 6.0 and 6.0.1, but has been there for a long time. I haven't filed a bug because it's a pain-in-the-butt bug to file. Short of sending my entire collection, I'm not sure how to describe how to duplicate it. Maybe the .db file is enough for Dan et al. to figure out why this is happening. The existing code displays the list in alphabetical order, taking into account TSOP tags. Looking at it right now, it seems that it doesn't use the TSOP information when dealing with number scrolling. This would explain a discrepancy. The player-based browsing code is being rewritten for 6.1 to make better use of the database. You should see improvements fairly shortly. Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.0.1 bugs
Ben Sandee wrote: The existing code displays the list in alphabetical order, taking into account TSOP tags. Looking at it right now, it seems that it doesn't use the TSOP information when dealing with number scrolling. This would explain a discrepancy. The player-based browsing code is being rewritten for 6.1 to make better use of the database. You should see improvements fairly shortly. Vidur, That's great news. Is there a bug under which this work is being performed? I'd like to add myself to the cc: list so that I will know when to check this out and give you feedback. The main bug under which the browsing code is being modified is http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=55. It's not directly related to this specific issue, so feel free to create a new bug and mark it dependent on bug 55. Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.
On Windows, SlimServer is packaged as an executable that bundles the Perl packages that we use. To make source modifications, you need to have an ActiveState Perl installation (http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/) and will need to run the server via the slimserver.pl script. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I thought I'd have a go at playing with the vis settings, but I must be doing something dumb. I've tried editing the slim/player/squeezebox2.pm file, but it's not having any effect. Do I need to do anything other than restart the server after an edit? I'm guessing that there's a deployment step I'm missing somewhere (I'm new to slimserver development). BTW - running on XP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidur Apparao Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:50 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues. depeche wrote: Display: A non standard spectrum layout is the idea thenOK. Normally you have low --- high freq. or Left (low --- high) Right (low --- high) The visualizers are configurable from the server, though we haven't yet created a UI for this. If you're feeling particularly bold, you can modify the configuration parameters in the server source. The parameters for the right-side visualizer in the Now Playing modes are in Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm and those for the full-screen visualizers are in Plugins/Visualizer.pm. The configuration parameters (including position, orientation, bandwidth, etc.) are documented in the first file. The spectrum analyzer is implemented using a simple fixed-point FFT with a Hamming window applied to the signal. Since most real-world audio has considerably more power in the lower frequency bands, one of the configurable parameters is a preemphasis value applied to the frequency bins after the FFT (effectively a multiplier for the higher frequency bins) - the value is specified in dB/KHz. I've spent a little bit of time playing with the parameters to get something that looks reasonably good (and that's the eventual goal, right?). If anyone, ideally someone with a better aesthetic sense than I, is interested in experimenting and coming up with better parameters, or even a UI for users to configure their own parameters, I'd welcome the changes. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Problem
Sean Adams wrote: Does anybody think that getting 802.11g access point would help? Yes, but we still want to fix whatever's wrong with the MR814v2. That may take us a little while if it's no longer in production, or not readily available. Actually, we do have a MR814v2 and the latest firmware (v.9) is able to connect to it. I've tested both with and without WEP. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multiple music folders / rescanning
Are you running SlimServer as a Windows service? If so, can you try running it as an application? To do this, kill the slim.exe process in the Task Manager and start slim.exe from the command line. My only guess is that it could be a permissions issue. --Vidur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - searched the archives but still can't quite figure out why this doesn't appear to be working for me. I have recently been trying to get the rest of my collection scanned and am using a second HD. Original directory (which Slimserver has as music folder) is F:\Music. Inside this folder are the albums by genre folder. This has always scanned and worked fine so I followed the same structure on the second HD: directory is G:\Music2. Inside this folder are the albums by genre folder. I then put a shortcut into the F:\Music folder which points to G:\Music2 folder. However when I rescan I encounter the following problems: 1. Even after all night the slimserver screen still shows rescanning. It has rescanned the files in the orignal directory fine and has updated this but not included those in G:\Music2. 2. If I go to browse music folders it shows Music 2 as a link but selecting this brings up the message: You need to specify a path to your directory containing your MP3 files. Click here to go to the server settings and do this now. My understanding was the slimserver couldn't handle multiple locations, only shortcuts from the one location to another. Is this correct? FYI - Slimserver V5.1 running on a Win2k server box Drives F: G: are the only two partitions on the same HD (historical reason why it wasn't simply left as one HD). What am I doing wrong?! And how can I sort it? TIA Beau ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: EMPTY when browsing
Dan Sully wrote: * Phillip Kerman shaped the electrons to say... Nearly all my album tracks are unavailable... when I do Browse musicBrowse Artistssome artistsome album all I see is EMPTY (Same thing with Browse Albums) I had to give up my old way of accessing files (Browse Music Folder) because v6.0.0 has serious performance issues with this feature (I'd prefer to just browse folder). But maybe because I never really used browse music/browse artist (or browse alums) I'm using them wrong. Is everyone that's having this problem on Windows and in a Daylight Savings timezone? Dan asks this because we've identified an issue related to Daylight Savings on Windows. It turns out that Windows reports a different file modification date after the automatic change for Daylight Savings (see http://www.codeproject.com/datetime/dstbugs.asp for more information). This makes us think that the file has changed. A bug in 6.0.0 (fixed in the latest nightlies) deletes the file from the database rather than re-reading tags. If you are seeing this bug, updating to the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/) will fix it. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can not view songs under albums unless I play album
David Makoski wrote: Okay I at SlimServer version 6.0.0. Now if I use the SlimServer or the hardware remote and browse albums, I see all my albums. If I then select and album and press the right arrow, I get Empty !? Now If I play the album, then press the right arrow I'll now see and am able to switch to a song within the album. This happens withthe hardware, SlimServer, and Softsqueeze . Running XP Prof SP-2, All songs in Apple LossLess format. Whats up? Please see http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/discuss/2005-April/047587.html. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0 problem - playlist stops frequently at track boundaries
I was able to recreate this on my 6.0.0 installation and found it was related to the problem detailed in http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/discuss/2005-April/047587.html. Could anyone who is seeing this problem confirm that it has been fixed in the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/)? Thanks, --Vidur Matt Alioto wrote: I've had it do similar while having wireless SB1 synced with SS2. I think I just pressed play to get it going again but can't remember for sure. It did stop between tracks. Don't let education interfere with your learning... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Still Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:01 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: [slim] 6.0 problem - playlist stops frequently at track boundaries Apologies for filling the list with individual issues but i figure they're easier to keep on topic. I'm getting frequent 'stops' using 6.0 whether on SS2 or SB1s. Tracks will play for a while and then the playlist will stop and i'll need to hit pause to restart. It always happens at a track boundary - eg track 9 will end, the title of track 10 will show but it wont play until i hit pause. Anyone else? (BTW, i am very impressed by 6.0 generally - the search is vastly improved and really quick) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. All e-mail sent to this address will be received by Acacia Pacific Holding's e-mail system and is subjected to archiving and review by someone other than the recipient. Acacia Pacific Holdings has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: EMPTY when browsing
Vidur Apparao wrote: ... Dan asks this because we've identified an issue related to Daylight Savings on Windows. It turns out that Windows reports a different file modification date after the automatic change for Daylight Savings (see http://www.codeproject.com/datetime/dstbugs.asp for more information). This makes us think that the file has changed. A bug in 6.0.0 (fixed in the latest nightlies) deletes the file from the database rather than re-reading tags. If you are seeing this bug, updating to the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/) will fix it. I forgot to mention - you will have to hit Rescan (under Server Settings) to see the missing tracks again. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Composer / Band Mixed Up
It should have been fixed in the 1/2/05 nightly (both 6.1 and 6.0.1 versions). You will have to go to Server Settings - Performance and hit Wipe Cache to delete the existing database and rescan your library to see the change. --Vidur Scott Bennett wrote: According to Vidur when I asked this question, it should be fixed in the next nightly (Monday I'm presuming). There is a bug filed for it. Scott Subject: [slim] Composer / Band Mixed Up From: Andrew Smith Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 11:07:31 +0100 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com I have just downloaded version 6.1.0 trunk http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.1/. But still the composer is appearing when you do an Artist search in Search Music. This is very annoying because I would like to use version 6, but this bug is a major issue for me. I may have to go back to version 5.4.0 again. Anybody any idea when this problem will be fixed? I have tried using Default and Handheld skins. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] more 6.0 issues - synch issues. Volume 'resets' with each track.
Simon Still wrote: I'm synching 2 SB1's and ss2. I've definitely got it set on all players NOT to synch volume but each time the track changes i'm getting the volume on the SB1 i'm listening to reset to 16. I turn it up to say 25 via the remote and the next track change takes it back to 16. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss Bug 1216 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1216). Fixed in latest nightlies. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 Satisfaction -- gapless!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently do OGG to PCM with an SB1 and it's gapless (which is very important to me). OGG to MP3 isn't - I assume because the decoder in the SB1 doesn't understand the LAME gapless tags. Can anyone confirm whether the decoder in SB2 understands the gapless tags? It does not...yet. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Composer / Band Mixed Up
I believe this is bug 1144 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144), fixed in tomorrow's nightlies. --Vidur Scott Bennett wrote: Is anyone else seeing the composer showing up in place of the band with v6.0.0? Example: Band: The Innocence Mission Composer: Don Peris Shows up in the menus as Don Peris, but alphabetized where Innocence Mission would be. Innocence Mission does not display anywhere. Everything is tagged and foldered correctly. The Don't include composer, band and orchestra in artists option is selected. I am using iTunes, and everything shows up fine there. This appears to be happening to every track with the composer field set (I didn't set them, they were filled in by some tagging program somewhere along the line.) This was not happening in 5.4.1 Thanks, Scott ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Steinar Bjaerum wrote: ... Is the FFWD/REW done by skipping to flac frame boundaries in the server before streaming to the client? Yes, we do some rudimentary parsing on the server to find frame boundaries. This involves looking for a frame header sync mark and then confirming that the header CRC is correct. The existence of the CRC actually gives us a good confidence level that we're sending valid frames to the decoder on the box. The same technique is used for FFWD/REW for MP3, but MP3 frame headers don't contain a CRC value (at least not for the header itself), so you can sometimes hear squeaks and pops while scanning through MP3 tracks. Luckily the MP3 decoder on the box is very robust. :-) --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Vidur Apparao wrote: Steinar Bjaerum wrote: . It is feasible to let Perl parse the SEEKTABLE and have the server start streaming at the frame containing the start sample of the track. However, the Flac decoder in the client needs to get additional information about the samples that need to be thrown away after decoding the frames containing the start and end samples of the track. This means that it is not just a Perl parsing job that has to be done in order to avoid transcoding the cued Flacs. However, I'm sure the guys at SlimDevices can do it! You are absolutely correct. If we did cuesheet-based seeking within the server, we'd have to start streaming to the SB2 from the start position of the frame *and* send the decoder the number of frames to drop at the start and end of the stream. Sorry, that's send the decoder the number of __samples__ to drop at the start and end... --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2 startup glitches
Vidur Apparao wrote: Phil Karn wrote: Additional comment: the crunching during startup does *not* occur with the original SB running off the same v6.0.0 server. The problem happens only with the SB2, and only when playing FLAC or OGG, not MP3. Haven't tried other file types. Phil, I'm not able to reproduce the problem with FLAC playback on either wired or wireless SB2, but I do hear something similar to what you're describing when trying to play SlimTris while FLAC is playing. SlimTris is triggering a large number of display updates - handling the large amount of network traffic seems to effect FLAC playback. I'm still trying to track down exactly what's happening on the box. Phil, I'm still not able to reproduce the exact problem that you're seeing, but I did find the problem that I describe above with SlimTris. We had inadvertantly left some debugging flags on that resulted in worse performance in certain circumstances - FLAC playback combined with a large number of client-server network transactions was one. I can believe that specific network characteristics triggers this case during FLAC startup on some networks but not others. I've checked in a firmware fix and regenerated the nightly builds. If possible, could you download the latest nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/) and force a firmware upgrade? To do this, install the nightly, connect your SB2 to the server, and press hold brightness till the firmware upgrade starts. Let me know if this changes anything. Thanks for your help, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest SVN - ogg needs sox
Steven Spies wrote: Vidur, I just noticed that I was not able to play Ogg Vorbis files with 6.0 on OSX. Since sox is now used for Ogg Vorbis playback I thought that might be the culprit. I dug through the preference pane and found the sox executable that was included with slim server. When I ran sox in the terminal it complained about some missing library files. On version tracker I found a program called SoX Wrap that included an installer for the needed library files. Ogg Vorbis now seems to work correctly. Can the missing library files be fixed? A different sox executable or a new slim server installer perhaps? I hope this will help others using Ogg Vorbis on OSX, Steven Steven, Thanks for the find. This will be fixed shortly in the nightlies. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest SVN - ogg needs sox
Vidur Apparao wrote: Steven Spies wrote: Vidur, I just noticed that I was not able to play Ogg Vorbis files with 6.0 on OSX. Since sox is now used for Ogg Vorbis playback I thought that might be the culprit. I dug through the preference pane and found the sox executable that was included with slim server. When I ran sox in the terminal it complained about some missing library files. On version tracker I found a program called SoX Wrap that included an installer for the needed library files. Ogg Vorbis now seems to work correctly. Can the missing library files be fixed? A different sox executable or a new slim server installer perhaps? I hope this will help others using Ogg Vorbis on OSX, Steven Steven, Thanks for the find. This will be fixed shortly in the nightlies. Dan just checked in a statically compiled version of sox with ogg support (the version I had originally included depended on libogg and libvorbis shared libraries). The new version will be available in tomorrow's nightlies or can be immediately downloaded from https://svn.slimdevices.com/*checkout*/trunk/server/Bin/darwin/sox?rev=2821. Please check it out when you get a chance (though it sounds like you've already installed the necessary shared libraries for the original version). Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest SVN - ogg needs sox
Steven Spies wrote: Yup, that seemed to do the trick. I tested the new executable on my iBook that does not have the required library installed and it worked fine. The old one complained the library is missing. This is slightly off topic but how do you compile a program like sox so it does not need an external library? I have been wanting to do the same thing for a great program called wavegain that can calculate replaygain values for wave and aiff files and optionally apply the changes to the file but I was never able to figure it out. Do you have any ideas? Besides my knowledge of compiling is very limited. If ./configure, make, sudo make install does not work I am completely lost ;^) Obviously, I'm no expert either. :-) To statically link in the ogg and vorbis libraries for sox, you need to make sure that the .a versions of the libraries and not the .so versions are in the library path (both the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable and any -L inclusions on the command line). For me, this generally involves finding out where the libraries were installed (e.g. /usr/local/lib) and temporarily mv'ing them. Some configure scripts support the --enable-static and --disable-shared options. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Linksys BEFW11S4 Rev 4 problems
Phillip Kerman wrote: Basically, the problem is that it won't connect in wireless mode. I have Firmware Version: 1.50.14 No WEP/WPA... just MAC filering which, even when off, doesn't work. Also, I turned on/off SSID broadcast with no effect. I'm sure slim will find a fix though. I believe I have a fix checked in. You can either get the new firmware from the 1/1 nightly (no foolin') or download it immediately to your server/Firmware directory from https://svn.slimdevices.com/*checkout*/trunk/server/Firmware/squeezebox2_8.bin?rev=2826. In both cases, connect your Squeezebox2 to SlimServer (wired I would assume, since your AP is not working) and press hold brightness to initiate the firmware upgrade. Let me know how it goes. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Daryle A. Tilroe wrote: ... Quick followup: Does this also then mean that track based FLACs will support FF/REW within the track whereas the transcoded CUE sheet based ones won't? Yes, that is true for now. FFWD/REW is possible only for types that we don't transcode - MP3 and FLAC without cuesheets for SB2. Pure PCM types (wav and aiff) can be played at faster rates on SB2, but only if the corresponding FLAC transcoding lines are removed from convert.conf. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Steinar Bjaerum wrote: Sean Adams wrote: One thought on this: if we find that CUEd FLACs are inherently just a pain in the butt with no advantage in terms of gaplessness, would you accept as a solution a script to unCUE them? If you by this mean providing a script for us CUE fans to unCUE our CUEd FLAC collections, I think it is a very bad solution. I find your current CUEd FLAC to single-track FLAC transcoding acceptable, allthough I fear it introduces annoying gaps in live or classical recordings. My understanding is that you now view FLAC as your generic streaming format between server and client for non-MP3 audio. Given server-side transcoding of CUEd FLAC - single track FLAC, you should definitely continue your support for CUEd FLACs. I don't believe the runtime transcoding of CUEed FLAC should introduce gaps. The SB2 generally starts decoding a track well before the previous one has finished playing (this allows us to do, among other things, audio transitions including crossfading). Since we use the --skip and --until parameters to the server-based flac tool, we don't introduce any silence because of intra-frame padding. Please tell me if you are hearing gaps. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Gordon Harris wrote: But, in terms of the need to use flac.exe to transcode individual tracks from flacs: I guess Im just not getting what the problem is with writing the perl code to seek to the appropriate place in a whole-disc/cue-embeded flac file. (Forgive me if Im speculating above my pay-grade here: Ive never written a single line of perl code.) If a flac file has a cuesheet-metadata-block, flac version 1.1.2 allows one to use cuepoints to decode a portion of the flac file. So, rather than using the skip=mm:ss.ss until=mm:ss.ss command line form, one can use cue=n.n-n.n to select a specific track/index range to decode. I assume that this means that flac.exe isnt having to use any sort of time to byte-offset calculation to seek to the appropriate section of the flac file. The cuesheet-metatdata-block includes sample offsets from the beginning of the flac audio stream for each track and index in the cuesheet metadata. Personally, Ive never figured out how to convert a sample offset into a byte offset, but, how hard could it be? For FLAC embedded cuesheets, we should be able to get exact seekpoints from the STREAMINFO header. This header is easily parseable in Perl - in fact Michael Turner recently added seekpoint parsing code to our FLAC formatting package. For external cuesheets, however, a time-to-byte-offset calculation is necessary. This translation is fairly hairy as it is (it involves an initial guess based on bitrate and then frame parsing to find the exact point), and has the potential to be slow in Perl. That being said, our longer term solution may be to implement the seeking code entirely in Perl - it just hasn't happened yet. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio worked last night, not this morning
Christine, It seems like you might have the Shuffle by Album setting turned on. There was a bug with this setting and radio stations that has recently been fixed. We'll have a nightly build available from the 6.0.x tree fairly soon. In the meantime, you can try one of the following alternatives: 1) Turn off Shuffle by Album for radio stations. 2) Install the latest nightly build for the 6.1 tree from http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0/ (we'll be cleaning up the nightly build situation soon and that URL will change). Let me know if that helps. --Vidur c_death wrote: My husband brought home a used squeeze box last night. This morning I tried to listen a squeeze box internet radio suggestion but it wouldn't connect and it would crash... I then decided to try to listen to my own stream, which worked last night but it crashes the server. this is the log file. 2005-03-30 10:02:53.8157 Recieved final blank line... 2005-03-30 10:02:53.8160 opened stream! Use of uninitialized value in array element at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Player/Playlist.pm line 442. Use of uninitialized value in array element at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Player/Playlist.pm line 442. SlimServer Version: 6.0.0 - trunk any help? --- Christine |Waiting for the Blackouts: Goth Industrial 80s Deathrock | |Darkwave Ethereal Alternative, Rock Batcave Psychobilly | |Plus what ever else that catches my fancy!| | | |http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?membername=c_death| |http://www.perkigoth.com/waitingforthe| ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2 audio quality.
Mike Reeve wrote: Natan Nicki Tiefenbrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm hooking my SB up to a Linn DAC, and even with raw WAVs it doesn't sound half as good as the CD player with digital out, so I assume it's to do with the clocking. Hi Just in case you are running a wireless set up ... ... have you checked (and I apologise if you have already done so) that you have set Player Settings Bitrate Limiting to No Limit? [Recall that it defaults to transcoding to 320Kbps MP3 ... ... I forgot this once after changing my set up and had a moment of shock/panic until I remembered :-O] My suggestion exactly. We've done bit-accuracy testing with FLAC, so it's definitely not in the decoder on the box. My guess is that there's MP3 transcoding going on. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Gordon Harris wrote: My SqueezeBox2 arrived today. Lot's 'o fun so far. I do have a question about the FLAC transport: no matter how I change the Server-File Types settings or comment out lines in convert.conf, Slimserver still seems to transcode my FLACs. Even with just FLAC (built-in) enabled, I'm seeing the following process created by Slimserver on playback: cmd.exe /x/d/c C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi- thread\flac.exe -dcs --skip=0:00.00 --until=5:02.24 -- D:\Recordings\Music_FLAC\c_Early_Baroque\Biber, H\Missa Bruxellensis - Savall.flac | C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi- thread\flac.exe -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 - To me, this looks as though the Slimserver requires flac.exe to stream to stdout at compression level 0 to get FLAC content to the SqueezeBox2. The above FLAC file was encoded at level 5. Even if I re-encode a FLAC at level 0 and play that, the transcoding FLAC | FLAC operation still takes place. I know that when Slimserver streams MP3s to the SqueezeBox, nothing special needs to happen (i.e. LAME isnt required to be invoked.) Is this a case where Slimserver doesnt quite know how to parse and stream FLAC data directly yet? Should we expect truly native FLAC streaming from a future version of Slimserver? This current arrangement for FLAC streaming works perfectly well. I just assume that the two invocations of flac.exe arent doing anything that Slimserver couldnt do with a little more code tweaking. That would knock down the CPU utilization a bit, knock down the temperature inside my media server case, and maybe allow me to do with one less fan. But I can certainly live with the current arrangement. PS: The larger memory buffer in the SqueezeBox 2 is great. Even with Slimserver scanning my music library, and with me browsing genre, I dont get any FLAC drop-outs. Also, FLAC play back seems to be perfectly gapless now. Way to go, Slimdevices and Slimserver developers. You guys are awesome. The FLAC-FLAC transcoding is only done when you use cuesheets. To get to a track start point within a FLAC file, we need to be able to seek to the exact point in the file (actually to the exact frame that starts before the cue point and then we may need to throw out some samples). Obviously the FLAC decoder on the device can't seek through the stream across a network for each song, so this seeking needs to be done on the server side. Rather than do the seek in Perl, we use the flac helper application with the --skip and --until parameters to provide us with the exact samples to play and then recode in FLAC. It requires a little CPU, but it's a lossless transcoding, of course. The transcoding does not happen if you don't use cuesheets with FLAC (excuse the double negative). --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
JJ wrote: Is there any control over the level of compression to be used in this transcoding? There's obviously a tradeoff between CPU load used to transcode and the bandwidth used to stream the flac, so it seems there should be a means of letting the user determine the level and perhaps trade CPU cycles for lowered bandwidth. There is currently no UI to change the settings, but the compression level can be changed by editing your convert.conf file. The entry for flc-flc-transcode-* is the one that applies to this type of transcoding. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] mySQL for Slimserver?
Rich, You can get the DBD::mysql package from ActiveState at http://ppm.activestate.com/PPMPackages/zips/8xx-builds-only/Windows/DBD-mysql-2.9003.zip. The files in blib/arch should be copied to server/CPAN/arch/5.8/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread and those in blib/lib should be copied to server/CPAN. This will make them available to SlimServer. I have not confirmed that this driver works, but I wish you luck. :-) --Vidur Rich Freedman wrote: I'm a slimserver newbee, so I apologize if this question has been asked and answered before I'm using slimserver Version 6.0b1 - 2005-03-08, along with it's embedded version of Softqueeze (eagerly awaiting shipment of my SB2), on Windows XP, SP2. I'd like to switch slimserver over to a mySql database. I understand that this is not officially supported, but apparently possible. I found all of the posts about changing the slimserver.pref, (especially http://article.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general/24879) and have done so, but still haven't been able to make it work. I'm an experienced C++ and Java programmer, but almost completely unfamiliar with perl. That said, it seems to me that the problem is that the DBI module for supporting mySQL (DBD:mysql) is missing. I tracked down some info on that, but it seems that the only way to get it is to get the source and compile it. If I understand correctly, this is a problem because the perl environment that is installed with slimserver is partially compiled. Has someone already added mySql support, who can make a Windows binary available, or must I install a full perl development environment to make this change? All advice is welcome. Thanks! -Rich Freedman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest SVN - ogg needs sox
Joshua Uziel wrote: ... so we all know to blame vidur. :) In my defense, I provided sox binaries for Windows, OS X and x86 linux. I presume you're running on something other than one of those. Maybe you should blame yourself then. ;-) --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest SVN - ogg needs sox
Joshua, You've found a legitimate bug. Dan just checked in a fix to make sure that the path for linux got canonicalized correctly. --Vidur Joshua Uziel wrote: * Vidur Apparao [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050327 12:30]: Hmm...that doesn't sound right. Dan checked in code a while ago that should make all x86 Linux distributions use the same path. What is the output of: I should probably further describe my setup... the latest subversion trunk is downloaded in /usr/local/SlimServer-svn ... I have a /usr/local/slimserver - SlimServer-svn/server symlink, and I run /usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl to kick things off. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Browse Music Folder not working - related to Shortcuts?
Cade Roux wrote: Recently upgraded my SlimServer to SlimServer Version: 6.0b1 (on Windows Server 2003) from whatever I was running before (maybe 5) after a long time of not having my SliMP3s installed in the house for a while. I'm using _only_ shortcuts in my C:\Music\MP3\ folder. I have shortcuts there to music encoded at various qualities or for different purposes in separate directories. In order to keep the new encodings separate from the old ones, I found this to be the most convenient way - there is NO music in the actual folder. However, on the web interface, it shows each of these as empty (although it definitely knows about the 8800 tracks spread through those shortcuts). On the SliMP3 it behaves badly - blanking the screen in an odd way (but still showing items to be in the list, just with no title), and I've even tried the SoftSqueeze, which is really cool (wasn't around last time I had these babies running), but it's the same (as expected). It would appear that the problem is related to the shortcuts? Thanks in advance, Cade, Could you please confirm that this is still the case with the latest nightly build: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0/ Thanks, --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] which version of server 6?
Phillip, The final version of SlimServer 6.0.0 will be available by Monday morning. We strongly recommend that you use that version for Squeezebox2. --Vidur Phillip Kerman wrote: My SB2 is coming any day now so I figure I'll install the required server. Anyone have a recommendation for a relatively stable version to use? Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
That's very true and especially so at the junction of digital music, wireless networking, and cross-platform support. The level of quality of our software and hardware in the end is not determined just by the amount of testing we do in-house, but is a function of the number of real-world users who give us feedback. That's why this list and the community at large are invaluable to our development process. I understand the frustration of those who see problems in the field, especially if they have seemingly ideal setups. This is consumer electronics - it should just work. We're continuing to work towards that goal and for the majority of our customers, it does just work. In the meantime, we appreciate any and all feedback (though the type with details about hardware, OS, networking setups, and steps to recreate a problem is the most useful). :-) Mitch Harding wrote: I imagine he explains it by saying that each case is unique. It's completely possible that even two people with comparable setups would have different experiences. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:40:29 -0500, PAUL WILLIAMSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/23/05 10:40 PM The problem with the existing server, just as you point out, is that the real-time and non-real-time server functions are bundled into the same tasks and threads, and insufficient attention has been paid to meeting real-time-critical playback requirements. Yes, the bigger buffer in the SB2 will definitely help (I have one on order) but I disagree that it's the only way or even the best way to solve the problem. With all this information, how do you explain that I've got a wired squezeboxG and a 100mb switched environment, all FLACs, that play all day long with no skips or dropouts, all powered from a lowly PIII 800Mhz box with 512mb of ram and 4x250gb drives, all LVM'd together for about 1tb of space? Your machine is definitely got more oomph than mine, yet I've got no problems. I had a party a couple weeks ago, and using the latest nightly of the 5.4.1 branch (don't remember the day - maybe 3/11?) without a single problem. Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ape, lame, and static
kdf wrote: Quoting Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fc4 on x86 using the linux port of mac squeezebox produces static. When I remove the -x from the lame switch, it behaves. I don't know much about ape's format - but the man page for lame says if you get static, try adding the -x switch. Is this an OS platform difference - cpu dependent - or is it file dependent? If file specific, would passing the output of mac through sox for the resample and then to lame fix it? I'm guessing it's OS thing, but ... -x is a byte swap performed by LAME. The server has this in teh convert.conf as [-x] and the server substitutes it in if needed. Exactly what criteria the server is using is the part I don't know. I think Dean put that part in, so I'd have to leave that part to him for an answer. The $-x$ substitution parameter is the empty string on a big endian architecture and -x on a little endian architecture. It's sometimes used for transcoding tools that output different endian samples depending on the native endianness. I believe LAME expects big endian samples for raw input, so a -x is necessary if it's fed little endian samples. If mac always returns big endian samples, the -x is not necessary. If it returns samples based on the native endianness, $-x$ should be used. I'm not familiar with mac - doesn anybody else have information? --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't get 6 b2 to work
James, Implement the initPlugin() method. If your plugin is enabled, this is invoked at SlimServer startup. --Vidur Craig, James (IT) wrote: Er yes that is what I do. Can you point me to a module that does this correctly? Of course there is an updated version of the plugin available which would also fix this. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kdf Sent: 19 March 2005 21:21 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Can't get 6 b2 to work Quoting Vidur Apparao [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dan, The problem seems related to the iTunesUpdate plugin. If the plugin hasn't been updated to be 6.0 compatible, we should disable it by default. The fact that it isn't disabled (seemingly even if you explicitly disable it in the UI) seems like a problem. To get going, however, I'd recommend removing iTunesUpdate.pm from your Plugins directory and restarting SlimServer. I havent seen the code for this plugin, so I'm just speculating. however, it is possible to force a plugin to be operating despite any efforts to disable. The Scrobbler plugin does this by forcing a setExecuteCallback that is called during the require, and does not comply with enable or disable. If this itunesUpdate is doing something like this as well, there is little that can be done aside from disabling it as a known bad module. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Bug 1125:Not able to ffw mp3 on sb1 or flac on sq2
Dan Sully wrote: * John Gorst shaped the electrons to say... Symptoms: server crashes with teh following error on the command line (dpending which format you try and ffwd) Undefined subroutine Slim::Formats::MP3::seekNextFrame called at /usr/local/slimserver6/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 177 Undefined subroutine Slim::Formats::FLAC::seekNextFrame called at /usr/local/slimserver6/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 1589 John - I've forwarded this message on to Vidur, who is working on ffw/rwd. I've checked in a fix. Should appear in tomorrow's nightlies or latest svn build. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't get 6 b2 to work
Dan, The problem seems related to the iTunesUpdate plugin. If the plugin hasn't been updated to be 6.0 compatible, we should disable it by default. The fact that it isn't disabled (seemingly even if you explicitly disable it in the UI) seems like a problem. To get going, however, I'd recommend removing iTunesUpdate.pm from your Plugins directory and restarting SlimServer. --Vidur Dan Speirs wrote: I can't get any of the 6.o betas/alphas to work. After installing them (win 2k, p4) and running slimserver I run into problems. When ever I try to play a song all the displays go to a Page Cannot Be Display page and you can here the page refreshing once a second. Then after a minute of trying it no longer reloads. The Squeezebox itself goes dark at this time and the whole thing it left useless. If I restart the computer I can do the entire thing again. I can click on a bunch of different links within the app (Interface, plugin) and it works just fine but once I play a song it gets whacked. Also, I tried disabling all the plugins too. Log: SlimServer has started! 2005-03-19 10:10:49.1639 iTunesUpdate: initialising Win32::OLE 2005-03-19 10:10:49.1698 iTunesUpdate: hookiTunesUpdate() engaged, iTunes Updater activated. Use of implicit split to @_ is deprecated at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/Biography/Plugin.pm line 318. Prototype mismatch: sub Plugins::DateTime::Plugin::getDisplayName () vs none at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 24. Subroutine getDisplayName redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 22. Prototype mismatch: sub Plugins::DateTime::Plugin::strings () vs none at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 56. Subroutine strings redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 26. Prototype mismatch: sub Plugins::DateTime::Plugin::setMode () vs none at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 66. Subroutine setMode redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 63. Subroutine lines redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 103. Prototype mismatch: sub Plugins::DateTime::Plugin::getFunctions () vs none at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 117. Subroutine getFunctions redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 115. Subroutine handleIndex redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 119. Subroutine handleEnable redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 132. Subroutine webPages_disabled redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 153. Prototype mismatch: sub Plugins::DateTime::Plugin::screenSaver () vs none at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 176. Subroutine screenSaver redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 168. Subroutine getScreensaverDatetime redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 192. Subroutine setScreensaverDateTimeMode redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 196. Subroutine screensaverDateTimelines redefined at C:/PROGRA~1/SLIMSE~1/server/Plugins/DateTime/Plugin.pm line 201. 2005-03-19 10:10:54.6389 iTunesUpdate: Creating new PlayerStatus for Living Room (00:04:20:05:03:60) 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1742 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1770 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1805 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1831 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1860 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1884 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1915 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1938 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1967 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.1992 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2022 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2047 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2075 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2100 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2130 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2153 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2181 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2208 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2237 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2261 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2289 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2316 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2344 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2368 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2397 generating from setup_input_chk.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2423 generating from setup_pref.html 2005-03-19 10:11:55.2452 generating from
Re: [slim] RSS Plugin Question/Problem in 6.0b nightly
The RSS plugin does ship with the server, so definitely use Bugzilla to file bugs. Please assign them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The plugin does allow you to modify the number of items displayed per feed when it's in screensaver mode. Go to Server Settings Plugins in the server web interface and look for the RSS News Ticker preferences. Daryle A. Tilroe wrote: I guess my first question is: Is the RSS plugin 'stock'? I.E. who is responsible for it? Slimdevices? The reason I ask is because I want to know if I should use bugzilla. On to the problem: Is there any way to limit the number of times an RSS feed repeats before moving onto the next one? It seems to be ~6x and I would like 1x. Actually now that I look it may be a time per channel which does not seem to be adjustable either. Adjustment would be good in either case and setting the number of repeats would be better than a timer. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: gapless playback with mp3 - another shot
It seems like the LAME INFO tag (described at http://gabriel.mp3-tech.org/mp3infotag.html) does include the number of padding samples. Bugs 1026 and 838 (they should probably be DUPed) cover this issue. I think it's a fixable problem for Squeezebox2...possibly not for initial launch, but shortly thereafter. --Vidur Familie Tromp wrote: Hello Phil, Information about amount of frames etc. is found on the following site. It says too that frames are added at the end AND the beginning of each mp3 file. http://lame.sourceforge.net/tech-FAQ.txt 3. Why does LAME add silence to the end of each song? Extra padding at the end of a file can be caused by a couple of things: 1. Because the MDCT's are overlapped, it looks something like this: --576 MDCT coefficients576 MDCT coefficients576 MDCT coefficients-- -- 576 samples PCM output 576 samples PCM output -- So no matter where you truncate your MP3 file, the last 288 samples of that granule will not be decoded. So LAME appends 288 samples of padding to the input file to guarantee all input samples will be decoded. 2. If the number of samples is not an exact multiple of 1152, then last frame of data is padded with 0's so that it has 1152 samples. Before lame3.56, we just added a few extra frames to make sure all internal buffers would be flushed. In lame3.56, we tried to pad with the exact minimum number of samples needed. And in lame3.80, we finally fixed the bitstream flushing so that the final mp3 frame is properly padded with ancillary data. Regards, Karel Tromp reaction Phil Karn Ah, I see. And I take it there's no field in the header that tells you how many audio samples are *really* in the track? If you had that, then you could just pad out the data during encode, and discard extra samples during decode. What is the size quanta, i.e., how much padding can be needed, worst case? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody on Slim
I would very much like to hand over ownership of RealSlim to an interested developer. My suspicion is that getting it to work more reliably and with v6 is not a huge undertaking. Kevin, you're right - it is in need of TLC. I would love to fix it (if for no other reason, so I can resume using it myself!), but my employment with Slim Devices makes it hard to do so. Anyone interested in taking it over? --Vidur Kevin Hawkins wrote: Hi... any news on this as V6 and SB2 surface ? - Many hands make light work.. K Sean Adams wrote: Vidur, this sounds like another hand job is within reach... On Jan 16, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Kevin Hawkins wrote: For me one of the greatest plugins written for the SlimServer is the Rhapsody plugin by Vidur - now employed by SlimDevices themselves. However it is in need of a little TLC at the moment to fix a few gremlins and also to make it work with the V6 server. This last aspect is my real worry as the V6 server will fix so many other issues for me but I don't want to lose Rhapsody - even with its various tantrums. Currently I swap servers on my players - back to a V5.4 with no library just to listen to Rhapsody.Vidur has mentioned he has time problems in attending to this So I just wanted to put in a plea to SlimDevices, or indeed anyone that this is one of the really great applications , and one that enticed me into buying a couple more players. If there is a way to ensure a future for this plugin I am sure it will support many more sales for players, and keep many existing users happy. Kevin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 and radioio
Maurice Poirier wrote: Will SB2 give free access to radioio like SB1? If not, does this mean that owners of SB1 will lose this privilege? Access to Internet radio via SlimServer is unchanged for SB1 and SB2. As long as there are free stations available, you will be able to freely access them through your Squeezebox. The always-on functionality, available through the SqueezeNetwork, allows you to use a SB2 (including listening to radio) without having a local machine running SlimServer. For now, this is a SB2 only feature. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Lossless decoding in the box or on the server for Squeezebox2??
Chris Glushko wrote: I was just reading the FAQ on the Squeezebox2 and it states: Squeezebox2 supports MPEG 1/2, layers 2/3, for both VBR and fixed data rates up to 320Kbps (the maximum for MP3). Additionally, Squeezebox2 can play FLAC and Apple lossless encoded audio as well as AIFF and WAV uncompressed audio. This means that the original data from the CD is being played digitally, without any compression or loss of sound quality. The SlimServer software can automatically convert many formats on the fly for playback, including WMA, AAC and Ogg Vorbis. Does this mean the new slimserver streams the actual compressed apple lossless files to the squeezebox2 instead of decoding to WAV on the fly and then streaming??? No, the box does not support native Apple Lossless decoding. However, you will be able to automatically transcode the signal to FLAC on your computer, leaving the original signal untouched, but still getting the bandwidth advantages of lossless compression. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly won't play AAC files
kdf wrote: Quoting Neil Coburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As you suspected, it just comes up with a box saying mov123.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. It didn't seem to get past the first line of the command. There is an error report, but I couldn't get it to cut and paste - not sure whether you need it? Thanks for the help so far What should I try next? I'll have to let Vidur field that one. If you can get an idea of what the error message says, that might help. I know next to nothing about mov123 except that it does tend to halt a lot. One thing to try would be to reinstall quicktime latest version, since I believe mov123 depends on that. -kdf This started happening after updating to 5.4.1? Which version did you update from? My initial reaction is to second kdf's suggestion that you get the latest Quicktime. An alternative may be to grab a version of mov123 from a previous version of SlimServer. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] help with native WMA
Vidur Apparao wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The native WMA to wav streaming does not seem to work at all for me. On both my Squeezebox and on SoftSqueeze (on the same machine as the SlimServer), SlimServer gives me the following error: Opening stream failed with error code 0x80070003 When I try to play an album of wma files, the player interface just skips from file to file and wont play anything. I cant find any similar error in the message board archives or any similar problem. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? I am running WinXPSP2, and WMP 10. The wma files have no DRM range from ~96 kbps to rather high VBR. Any help? Error 80070003 Path not found error I'm actually wondering if your problem isn't a format/codec issue, but a path encoding or parsing error somewhere along the way to wmadec. What's an example path to one of your WMA files? Are there any Windows shortcuts involved? Also, if you can run with the --d_source debugging flag, the log should show you the command line sent to wmadec. That'll tell us whether the path is getting mangled before getting to wmadec. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss