Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW

2007-12-02 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

It's the recording.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: "Toby Pennington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I have listened to both the recordings of the K3 very carefully and notice 
some raspiness in the cw note.


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[Elecraft] Factory built K3

2007-12-02 Thread Tony Fegan VE3QF
I just received an e-mail from our favourite lady Lisa Jones. I 
ordered my factory built K3 late on May 1. I haven't seen much about 
factory built K3's on the reflector but it looks like they are getting 
caught up. Lisa says shipping in 7-10 days.
   I sure wish I could have assembled the K3 myself but my eyesight has 
deteriorated since I built my K2 (with most of the options) starting 
back in 1999. How time flies.
   So all of you that are waiting for a factory built K3; they are on 
their way.


73
   Tony Fegan VE3QF
   K2/100 #490
   K3/100 #???

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[Elecraft] FS: NIB Unbuilt Elecraft Kits

2007-12-02 Thread Gary E Norman

These are all NIB, unbuilt kits.
Shipping is additional.

KPA-100 100W Option $339
(Price new is $389)
Purchased 9/02, Manual is revision A, 5/13/02, KPA-100 FW is v1.06
Includes K2 FW v2.02 & SSB FW 1.07

KPA-100SHLDKT Shield upgrade $13
(Price new is $15)
Purchased 9/03, Manual is revision A, 6/4/03

KAT100-2 100W ATU w / EC2 Panels $189
(Price new is $219)
Manual is revision A, 11/5/02, KAT-100 FW is v1.03
Includes K2 FW v2.03d & IOC FW 1.07

EC2 Blank Project Enclosure $49
(Price new is $59)

ETS2 3" Tilt Stand for EC2 $12
(Price new is $14)

The purchaser of the KPA-100 gets first refusal for the KPA-100 Shield 
upgrade kit.

The purchaser of the KAT-100-2 gets first refusal for the EC2 & ETS2.

Payment by Money Order.

Gary, W1PG


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for December 3rd, 2007

2007-12-02 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   I am very glad there are two nets.  The first one was not well attended but 
the second made up for it.  I lost Tom within minutes of starting the twenty 
meter net; this has now happened for three weeks running.  So, I think we need 
to make a change.  The floor is open for comments on moving the twenty meter 
net back to 2300z.  I was thinking about moving both nets an hour earlier but 
it seems like we had good attendance on the second net.  Let's leave that time 
at 0300z and niggle over the first net :)
   I am glad the wind is done blowing so hard.  After last year's blow I am 
leery of wind.  However, we made it through this one mostly unscathed.  One of 
the basins I leave for the birds is now rather misshapen; a large, fresh, limb 
decided to visit the front porch.  From what I can tell in the rain it dropped 
about forty feet with a single, lazy flip.  There are some small branches on 
the roof but nothing shingle threatening.
   As I mentioned, twenty meters was very quiet though when I had moved the rig 
to the front I was hearing many stations.  When the power came back on I moved 
back to where I have been operating so I could use my autotuner.  This made me 
start thinking about moving the time forward.  On forty meters I was able to 
hear almost everyone Tom worked.  I decided to let him start that net because 
I've lost him too many times and thus lost a number of check ins.  Next week I 
hope for better conditions :)  Looking at SpaceWeather I see the sunspot number 
moving slightly.  After a month of steady zeros day after day we are seeing a 
10 or 12 occasionally.  Maybe it is starting (cross fingers here).  

On to the lists =>
On 14050 kHz at z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
W7AQK - Dave - AZ - K2 - 96
NM7N - Karl - OR - K2 - 4227QNI #85

On 7045 kHz at 0300z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422  QNI #75
N5GE - Tom - TX - ?
W0JFR - John - CO - K2 - 4507
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K2 - 5345
WB5BKL - Nick - TX - K1 - 293
K4DGW - Dave - VA - K2 - 5982   QNI #5!
WA7BOC - Roger - WA - K3 - 75
NM7N - Karl - OR - K2 - 4227 
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037
NK6A - Don - CA - K2 - 1217

   The rain seems to have slowed but the tropical storm changed our cold 
weather to a more mild weather.  The dry snow we received is now sloppy, gushy 
snow no good for skiing; it would be more like water skiing :)  But the soil is 
getting some moisture for next year's growth cycle.  Another few soaking 
snowfalls and will be ready for another year.  Now to move my greenhouse to the 
newly cleared area so I can have easier access to fresh vegetables.  A new deck 
in back around it with a door leading past the wood stove and Sam can bask in 
the sun while I weed the new growth.  Maybe not all in one year but who can 
tell?
   Thank you for your support and participation.  Please send me your comments 
on a time change for the twenty meter net.  It seems necessary due to the less 
than optimal propagation we've been experiencing.  Now, since the sun is less 
present, it is easy to work the net into my schedule at an earlier hour.  As 
the days lengthen that most likely will change.
   Until next week stay warm and dry and well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)



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[Elecraft] Windows Vista and some ham radio software

2007-12-02 Thread Kenneth A. Christiansen
My XP computer went bad back in July and I replaced it with a lap top 
that runs Vista Ultimate. Two of my favorite ham radio programs would 
not run properly. The ARRL feed line program TLW would not even give a 
screen. I got it working by using the compatability part of  Vista and 
specifying Windows XP. This week end MixW  would not warn about dupes 
during the contest. I found the compatability part of Vista would make 
it work properly by specifying Windows XP and I also needed to specify 
that I needed Administrator privileges for that program in the 
compatability set up. I hope this information can help others. I am 
waiting for my K3 and have my shack and camper all converted to Power 
Pole connectors and a new Alinco DM-330MV power supply. Does anyone know 
if or how it can be changed to work on 220V AC? My K3 order date is June 
16th so I am looking forward to lots of fun when I retire the first day 
of January 2008.


W0CZ
Ken Christiansen
Fargo, ND 58102
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Tippett



KK7P re W4TV:
>Please be assured that we appreciate your thoughtful and constructive
comments on the K3.

I strongly second that Lyle...I only wish Joe had
been one of your beta testers because of the quality of
his suggestions.  Keep that in mind for the K4!  ;-)

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Augie Hansen

Hi Joe,

...
Practically since the introduction of ALC (Collins?) 
in transmitter systems and external amplifiers, ALC was negative 
and modern solid state transceivers have maintained compatibility 
with that "standard" even though it would have been easier if the 
(external) ALC was positive.
  


For the record, SGC went the "solid state" way in their amplifier design 
of the SG-500 SmartPowerCube. It uses positive ALC, which is of course 
not usable by most transceivers without translation. So I run mine 
without an ALC connection. The SG-500 protects itself from overdrive by 
attenuating the input if it exceeds 60 watts.


My only problems with the SG-500 are that it doesn't do QSK and its 
keying relay is a bit noisy.


Gus Hansen
KB0YH

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RE: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Don, 

> That seems to be the knock whenever one of the
> FT1000MP or IC756Pro features or connections does not
> find the same implementation on the K3. 
> 
> I'm not sure it's fair to go toe to toe with Japan
> Inc. on every specific feature ever put into an
> FT1000MP, while at the same time expecting the kind of
> innovation that's in the K3.

I'm not expecting - and haven't said - that the K3 will go toe 
to toe with every specific feature in a FT-1000MP or a 756ProIII. 
I have a K3/100 with second receiver on order in the second batch 
- and I'm waiting like everyone else.  I also plan to order a 
second one if the first comes even close to my expectations.  

However, there are certain de facto standards in the marketplace. 
Every (modern) transceiver provides a CW input that has a positive 
pull-up with closure to ground; every (modern) transceiver provides 
a relay contact closure to ground or open collector (drain) output 
capable of approximately 48 volts at 100 mA for keying external 
amplifiers.  Practically since the introduction of ALC (Collins?) 
in transmitter systems and external amplifiers, ALC was negative 
and modern solid state transceivers have maintained compatibility 
with that "standard" even though it would have been easier if the 
(external) ALC was positive.  RF enable in QSK capable amplifiers 
has been a contact closure to ground since it first appeared in 
Alpha amps more than 20 years ago.  

None of these are new or specific to a single transceiver ... 
however, if a transceiver supports a function (inhibit, ALC, 
etc.) the user has a right to expect it will be supported in 
a way that is compatible with other equipment already on the 
market.  Can you imagine the screams if amplifier PTT control 
were implemented as at positive going voltage instead of a 
contact closure to ground or if an external CW keyer had to 
provide a positive going signal (external voltage) to generate 
RF instead of closures to ground?  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
   



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:52 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!
> 
> 
> "However, all three changes could have been
> incorporated in the K3 for pennies in parts instead of
> requiring user modifications or add on boxes with just
> a little market research beyond the tight-knit group
> of insiders who do not push the operating envelope." 
> 
> 
> That seems to be the knock whenever one of the
> FT1000MP or IC756Pro features or connections does not
> find the same implementation on the K3. 
> 
> Where's the band scope, the band stacking registers,
> the physical SIZE ??? ;-)
> 
> I'm not sure it's fair to go toe to toe with Japan
> Inc. on every specific feature ever put into an
> FT1000MP, while at the same time expecting the kind of
> innovation that's in the K3. 
> 
> I'd suggest that Elecraft probably spent as much time
> engineering the K3 for their original fan base at
> milliwatt levels as they did to provide QRO
> provisions.
> 
> I promise you some fanatic is going to take the K3
> camping in their backpack. Tree huggers - sigh.  ;-)
> 
> The beauty of the reflector, and the two guys, is that
> you can ask and be 100% assured that you are being
> heard. 
> 
> 73, Don.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Don,

OK, the tests are underway.

Key down signal @ pin 4, U10:  80m; 0.058  160m; 0.055
Key down signal @ pin 6, U9:  80m; 0.205  160m; 0.695
Key down signal @ W6:  80m; 0.025  160m; 0.018
Key down signal @ D1 anode:  80m; 0.023  160m; 0.016

I remember a thread a long time ago about what is
considered a "normal" reading, and I recall that range
of what was considered acceptable was much larger than
I would have thought.  Thus, I will leave the
interpretation of this data to you, with my thanks!

73 - Ken



--- Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> That frequency is considered very close to the
> nominal value - the VCO 
> frequency is not the problem.
> 
> Now, you are in for some Transmit Signal Tracing on
> 160 meters.  Get out 
> an RF Probe (I believe you got one with  your K2)
> and turn the K2 manual 
> to Appendix E and look for 'Transmit Signal
> Tracing'.  For now, ignore 
> the parts that tell you to set the K2 to 40 meters,
> but do connect a 
> good dummy load - we will come back to the
> preliminary measurements if 
> required. Start instead at the points listed below
> the midpoint of the 
> first column of page 14.  Do those measurements in
> order, switching 
> between 80 meters and 160.  When you find a point
> where the RF voltage 
> on 160 is substantially lower than that on 80 meters
> (higher is 
> generally OK) - stop, you have found the troublesome
> stage and more 
> detailed investigation is to be done at that stage.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> 
> Ken Alexander wrote:
> > 6713.95 with the K2 tuned to 1800 kHz, CW.  Is
> that
> > considered close or do I have some work to do?
> >
> > 73 - Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Ken Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Hi Don,
> >>
> >> It receives great on 160.  The band was really
> >> hopping
> >> last night.
> >>
> >> I'll get back to you as soon as I figure out
> where
> >> this probe plugs in and where TP1 is.
> >>
> >> Thanks and 73,
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> 
> >
> 

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RE: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Don Rasmussen
"However, all three changes could have been
incorporated in the K3 for pennies in parts instead of
requiring user modifications or add on boxes with just
a little market research beyond the tight-knit group
of insiders who do not push the operating envelope." 


That seems to be the knock whenever one of the
FT1000MP or IC756Pro features or connections does not
find the same implementation on the K3. 

Where's the band scope, the band stacking registers,
the physical SIZE ??? ;-)

I'm not sure it's fair to go toe to toe with Japan
Inc. on every specific feature ever put into an
FT1000MP, while at the same time expecting the kind of
innovation that's in the K3. 

I'd suggest that Elecraft probably spent as much time
engineering the K3 for their original fan base at
milliwatt levels as they did to provide QRO
provisions.

I promise you some fanatic is going to take the K3
camping in their backpack. Tree huggers - sigh.  ;-)

The beauty of the reflector, and the two guys, is that
you can ask and be 100% assured that you are being
heard. 

73, Don.

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Re: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Lyle Johnson

Hello Joe!

Please be assured that we appreciate your thoughtful and constructive 
comments on the K3.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] K3 CW

2007-12-02 Thread Toby Pennington
I have listened to both the recordings of the K3 very carefully and notice some 
raspiness in the cw note.  

Is this the result of my computer messing with the quality of the recording,  
or just the signal going through the process of being recorded and played back. 

The second recording was better than the first,  but I still could hear some 
raspiness in the cw note. 

Is the cw note clean or does it exhibit some raspiness? Toby  W4CAK
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RE: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Don, 

> Joe - my original post pointed out the great success
> of the K3 initial production release, they did a
> terrific job of rolling radios out there without
> unforseen problems out of the box.

I'm not saying the Elecraft group did not do a good job in rolling 
out the K3.  Like Jerry, Dick and others I am saying they ignored 
non-Elecraft hardware and the needs of operators who have not been 
indoctrinated in "the Elecraft way."  A top of the line transceiver 
is a far different product than an overgrown QRP/backpack radio and 
had far different requirements for interfacing with other hardware. 
It's well and good to provide CW inhibit and receive antenna loop 
that interfaces with Elecraft's own VHF/UHF transverters but some 
thought needs to be given to de facto standards like amplifiers from 
Alpha/TenTec/Icom/Yaesu amplifiers with negative ALC and RF Enable 
(inverted CW inhibit) and the operating patterns of lowband users 
with low noise receive antennas.

> Maybe an unforseen problem of your own - oh my gosh I
> may need to build a switching cable. ;-)

As I said before, none of these problems are fatal - it will be 
relatively easy to add an external relay and XOR gate to resolve 
the antenna switching issue, add an inverting op-amp (and +/- 12 V 
supply) to handle the negative ALC, and add a transistor circuit 
to invert "RF Enable" for "CW inhibit").  However, all three 
changes could have been incorporated in the K3 for pennies in 
parts instead of requiring user modifications or "add on" boxes
with just a little "market research" beyond the tight-knit group 
of insiders who do not push the operating envelope. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 6:56 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!
> 
> 
> Joe - my original post pointed out the great success
> of the K3 initial production release, they did a
> terrific job of rolling radios out there without
> unforseen problems out of the box. 
> 
> Most wouldn't consider the fact that the radio was
> released without an interface that you consider to be
> important to be in the category of unforseen problems
> on initial delivery.
> 
> Maybe an unforseen problem of your own - oh my gosh I
> may need to build a switching cable. ;-)
> 
> --- "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> > > Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> > > function you mention is working as engineered. 
> > > 
> > > It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> > > shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.
> > 
> > No, this is a case of "not invented here" - a
> > complete 
> > failure to understand what is already in the market
> > and 
> > in the shack of users who would be expected to adopt
> > the 
> > new radio.  
> > 
> > To Jerry's list I would add a limited implementation
> > of 
> > RX antenna switching.  Simply expanding the existing
> > 
> > relay in the KXV3 from DPDT to 4PDT and inverting
> > one 
> > control line when RX Ant is selected for the main rx
> > 
> > would allow completely independent selection of
> > receive 
> > or transmit antenna for the second receiver.  Again,
> > 
> > like the ALC polarity or sense of the CW inhibit
> > loop, 
> > it should be relatively easy to hack an external fix
> > 
> > but it should not be necessary in a radio of this
> > class. 
> > 
> > 73, 
> > 
> >... Joe, W4TV 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:03 PM
> > > To: Elecraft List
> > > Subject: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jerry pointed out:
> > > "The biggest events I have seen are pretty
> > important:
> > > The reversed polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC
> > > polarity setup is not presently compatible with
> > widely
> > > used amps from Yaesu and ICOM" 
> > > 
> > > I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> > > Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> > > function you mention is working as engineered. 
> > > 
> > > It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> > > shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.
> > > 
> > > I've seen all this and more with other new
> > transceiver
> > > offerings. It also seems the bad seems to stay far
> > > longer than anyone would expect. 
> > > 

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[Elecraft] K2 dial alignment

2007-12-02 Thread paul
Hi,

Recently I started to upgrade my K2 (sn 2592) with the KPA100 kit.  Before 
I could complete the KPA100 though, I had to upgrade the K2 from rev A to 
rev B.  I have completed all the revs except for the firmware upgrade - 
Elecraft sent only the MCU but not the IOC.  It is now being mailed.

Before the rev, the frequency on the dial matched the received frequency.  
Now WWV is received on 10.012 MHz.  I have done the calibration of the 4MHz 
several times - checking with a known good receiver (AOR AR7030+).  I can 
vary the c22 and zero beat exactly on frequency (USB and LSB) - also at 
higher harmonics (16Mhz).  I ran an antenna wire next to the 4MHz xtal and 
listen on the SW receiver.

After the 4MHz calibration, I have run the CAL PLL and then modified every 
CAL FIL entry afterwards.   Still no change.  The dial reads 7.010Mhz when 
hearing 7MHZ and 14.020Mhz when hearing 14Mhz.

Otherwise, the receiver is excellent - much better than before.  Had a low 
volume problem before, now it is really loud.  Did all the RF and contol 
board changes, BFO temp stability mod, PLL upgrade, AF gain smoothness, 
VFO ALC 10/12 meter band pass filter, AGC threshold (R1 from 51k to 
22.5k).  I have checked for bad solder joints or bridges - nothing wrong 
that I can see.

I did not do the second crystal filer flatness mod or the sidetone mod 
yet.  Also no firmware had been changed yet.  Any ideas what to check?

Thanks,

Paul
AD5IW

Here are some measurements when receiving 10MHz WWV: 

TP3  14913.05
TP2   4913.19
TP1  12089.38

Dial: 10011.99

---Range measurements
PLL
min: 12083.69
max: 12094.29
range:  10.60

TP3
min: 14906.04
max: 14919.09
range:  13.05

BFO 
min:  4916.99
max:  4912.59
range:   4.40

R30:  4.34V 10MHz
  5.70V @ 4MHZ
  2.02V @ 3.5Mhz
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 high current draw with no power output

2007-12-02 Thread k2jrj-elecraft
For what it's worth, I accidently transmitted into an open load with my KPA100 
and popped the finals. After the accident, the symptoms were exactly as you 
described, and the high current was about 26 amps. I replaced the finals and 
things were back to normal. Bad finals out of the box seems very unlikely so 
I'd first look for shorts in that area, but anything is of course possible.
   
   - Ron,  W2RIP  (no pun intended :^)

Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ron,

How much power is actually being produced? Measure with an external 
wattmeter, then look at the bargraph display and see how many bars are 
indicated. If there is a lot of power being produced (120 watts or 
greater) and the bargraph does not indicate any RF power, you should 
look at the wattmeter section of the KPA100 - particularly T4.

If the actual power output is not being reported to the base K2 
microprocessor, the base K2 will increase drive in an effort to produce 
more power (because it thinks that is no power output).
The solution to that situation is to find the fault in the wattmeter of 
the KPA100.

73,
Don W3FPR

Ron Hahn (EI2JP) wrote:
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> I've just finished a KPA100 and am in the process of doing the final
> checkout.
>
> I've made it past the bias adjustment stage and the power supply test
> stages.
>
> Below 11 watts output (PA switched out) everything seems to work OK.
>
> Setting the power output to 20 watts and pressing tune results in NO
> power output and a current draw of approx. 26 amps. Not good.
>
> I checked recent posts regarding this problem but none seem to have the
> high current problem associated with no KPA output power.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks a mil,
>
> Ron
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Jerry Flanders

At 05:03 PM 12/2/2007, Don Rasmussen wrote:

Jerry pointed out:
"The biggest events I have seen are pretty important:
The reversed polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC
polarity setup is not presently compatible with widely
used amps from Yaesu and ICOM" 

I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
function you mention is working as engineered.

It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.


No, Don. This is an issue that only affects the external amp. If a 
PW-1 or Quadra gets in trouble due to, for instance, a flaky antenna 
connection, it will attempt to shut down drive to itself by cranking 
up the ALC voltage it sends back to the exciter. That tells the 
exciter to reduce the drive level.


The exciter and the amplifier need to be able to communicate in a 
"standard" protocol. Exciters that do not follow this protocol, 
making it difficult for the user to interface it, may put the amps at 
risk.  The ICOM PW-1 and Yaesu Quadra operating manuals  _require_ ALC usage.


I agree the K3 is probably working as engineered, but the engineering 
does not conform to the requirements of widely-used amps.


I worry about these things because I once blew up the output circuit 
of an AL-1200 because of a flaky antenna coax line. If that should 
happen again with my present Yaesu Quadra amp I want the ALC line to 
be working properly to give the Quadra a chance to survive the event.


Jerry W4UK 


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[Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Don Rasmussen
Joe - my original post pointed out the great success
of the K3 initial production release, they did a
terrific job of rolling radios out there without
unforseen problems out of the box. 

Most wouldn't consider the fact that the radio was
released without an interface that you consider to be
important to be in the category of unforseen problems
on initial delivery.

Maybe an unforseen problem of your own - oh my gosh I
may need to build a switching cable. ;-)

--- "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> > Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> > function you mention is working as engineered. 
> > 
> > It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> > shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.
> 
> No, this is a case of "not invented here" - a
> complete 
> failure to understand what is already in the market
> and 
> in the shack of users who would be expected to adopt
> the 
> new radio.  
> 
> To Jerry's list I would add a limited implementation
> of 
> RX antenna switching.  Simply expanding the existing
> 
> relay in the KXV3 from DPDT to 4PDT and inverting
> one 
> control line when RX Ant is selected for the main rx
> 
> would allow completely independent selection of
> receive 
> or transmit antenna for the second receiver.  Again,
> 
> like the ALC polarity or sense of the CW inhibit
> loop, 
> it should be relatively easy to hack an external fix
> 
> but it should not be necessary in a radio of this
> class. 
> 
> 73, 
> 
>... Joe, W4TV 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:03 PM
> > To: Elecraft List
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!
> > 
> > 
> > Jerry pointed out:
> > "The biggest events I have seen are pretty
> important:
> > The reversed polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC
> > polarity setup is not presently compatible with
> widely
> > used amps from Yaesu and ICOM" 
> > 
> > I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> > Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> > function you mention is working as engineered. 
> > 
> > It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> > shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.
> > 
> > I've seen all this and more with other new
> transceiver
> > offerings. It also seems the bad seems to stay far
> > longer than anyone would expect. 
> > 
> 
> 

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[Elecraft] K3 display for contesters

2007-12-02 Thread Barry N1EU
>Barry N1EU, regarding your comment about shape factor, I assume you know
about the K3 Context filter.

Yes Bill, and I look forward to seeing how it works.  But the filter
slopes on the context filter are not adjustable either so we're
talking apples and oranges.  If the firmware can support variable
filter slope (taps), it would be one more effective tool in pulling
weak signals out when impulse noise (static crash) is present.  Very
narrow selectivity to improve s/n coupled with a gentle slope (low
taps) to reduce ringing can be a potent combination in noisy lowband
condx.

73,
Barry N1EU
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[Elecraft] ALC

2007-12-02 Thread Mike Penkas
That last message did not come out properly.
What I said was that my QRO2500 works fine with my K3 but it will
shut down if I forget to lower the output from the K3 after running barefoot.
The amp I really want to use with the K3 is the solid state PW-1 
which requires a negative ALC to PROTECT the input in event
one forgets to turn down the drive.  It is not a matter of splatter
or flat-topping but one of protection.
I am sure a circuit will come from Elecraft to allow the acceptance
of negative ALC by the K3 but until then I don't trust myself
to turn down the drive every time I switch from barefoot to 
amp. 
  Mike WA8EBM
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[Elecraft] ALC

2007-12-02 Thread Mike Penkas
My QRO2500, a tube amplifier, works great with my K3, but the amp will 
withstand and shut down if I accidentallyforget to turn down the drive after 
running the K3 barefoot.The amp I want to use, with bandswitching capabilities, 
is my PW1.It will not tolerate a mistake of excessive overdrive. This has been 
gone over before, it is not a matter of splatteror flat-topping but protection 
of the amp by the ALC if oneinadvertently forgets to turn down the drive.I am 
sure a circuit is coming to permit the acceptance of negativeALC by the K3 but 
until then I don't trust myself to hook up my solid state amp.  
Mike WA8EBM Just as well I have an Acom 1000, it works perfectly with my K3...
No keying issues and no ALC needed (or provided) and one simple phono to phono 
coax lead between them for keying.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
Acom 1000

=
The biggest events I have seen are pretty important: The reversed 
polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC polarity setup is not presently 
compatible with widely used amps from Yaesu and ICOM - perhaps 
incompatible with ALL amps requiring ALC, but I am not sure about 
that). This was discussed on the k3 yahoo reflector a couple weeks 
ago. Also the mention here  the other day of a similar polarity 
mismatch problem with a CW loopback feature for QSK (that I don't 
really understand).

Elecraft says they will develop a work around for the ALC problem at 
some future time. This ALC thing is a major item for AMP users trying 
to follow their manufacturer's instructions for setup.

Jerry W4UK 

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RE: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> function you mention is working as engineered. 
> 
> It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.

No, this is a case of "not invented here" - a complete 
failure to understand what is already in the market and 
in the shack of users who would be expected to adopt the 
new radio.  

To Jerry's list I would add a limited implementation of 
RX antenna switching.  Simply expanding the existing 
relay in the KXV3 from DPDT to 4PDT and inverting one 
control line when RX Ant is selected for the main rx 
would allow completely independent selection of receive 
or transmit antenna for the second receiver.  Again, 
like the ALC polarity or sense of the CW inhibit loop, 
it should be relatively easy to hack an external fix 
but it should not be necessary in a radio of this class. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:03 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!
> 
> 
> Jerry pointed out:
> "The biggest events I have seen are pretty important:
> The reversed polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC
> polarity setup is not presently compatible with widely
> used amps from Yaesu and ICOM" 
> 
> I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> function you mention is working as engineered. 
> 
> It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.
> 
> I've seen all this and more with other new transceiver
> offerings. It also seems the bad seems to stay far
> longer than anyone would expect. 
> 

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[Elecraft] K2 #6272

2007-12-02 Thread n0jrn

Is alive and well. At least through Assembly, Part II.

Listening to 40 meters now and finished tweaking the band pass filter.

Don't know if I'm ready to continue or just listen to it for awhile   :-)

One minor set back so far.Dang if I didn't go and wind  T5 
backwards.   Does some weird stuff when you do that.


Anyway,   it's cooken now .

More later

72 JerryN0JRN


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[Elecraft] K3 display for contesters

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Tippett

WC1M:

The Orion does a good enough job with DSP that it isn't easy to distinguish

between 600Hz, 400Hz, or 200Hz.

Dick the K3 has a visual passband indicator that gives you an indication of 
the passband in octaves (e.g..  ~250 Hz, 500 Hz and 1000 Hz for CW).  I 
doubt I'll miss reading BW to the nearest 10 Hz (as in Orion).


Almost done with mine!  Took a break to listen on 160 but the band sounds 
poor so back work now.


Barry N1EU, regarding your comment about shape factor, I assume you know 
about the K3 Context filter.  Having used my old TS-930 since I sold my 
Orion in June, I rediscovered using its SSB filters in CW with VBT cranked 
down completely (few hundred Hz BW but with a very wide shape factor).  This 
*really* works well for very weak signals in noise.  I'm now looking forward 
to the KRX3 with one BW narrow and the other wide in diversity mode.  This 
might be another alternative to the Context filter.


73,  Bill  W4ZV

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RE: [Elecraft] more on K3 display

2007-12-02 Thread Ed Muns
> Not to beat a dead horse :), but I thought of another contest 
> situation where I need a visual status reading. Most of the 
> time when I replace an op at a M/S, M/2 or M/M station, I 
> have to go over the radio with a fine toothed-comb to reset 
> the operating parameters back to a reasonable baseline. You 
> never know what the previous op might have done. It would be 
> a pain to have to turn a lot of knobs and push a lot of 
> buttons to get the status.
> 
>  
> 
> Seems to me that since this is an SDR, there could be a 
> reasonable solution.
> How about an alternate display mode for contesters? Or, 
> perhaps there could be a bunch of user-selectable options for 
> what gets displayed by default and what requires manual 
> intervention to see.

The entire CONFIG and MAIN menus can be stored in a file on the PC and
restored to the K3.  So, each operator can have their own setup.  You could
also have a standard setup for each contest.  Organize it however you want,
but the capability is there to support save/restore of an unlimited number
of complete radio configurations.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2007-12-02 Thread Kevin Rock
Thanks Tom!
   As I predicted the power went out.  I am now running from my laptop via an 
inverter hooked to my battery bank.  If the power does not come on shortly I 
will move the K2 and tuner in here and hook them to the battery bank which is 
fully charged as of this morning.  The combination of 12 inches of snow, 
followed by heavy rain, later followed by 50-60 mph wind gusts have brought 
down quite a few limbs.  They have not whacked the house but did take out a 
basin which waters the birds.  Sam gave me a dirty look when the six inch 
diameter, twenty foot long limb hit the front deck.  I told him it was not my 
doing but I do not think he believed me ;)  The inverted V is too difficult to 
move but I may dig under the house to try getting the coax loose and over to 
the opening to the other shack location.  I do have window line to a horizontal 
doublet there at the moment.  It is low but still up.  I'll check it soon to 
see if it is OK to use.  I have inspected for damage to both antennas and found 
none.  The house seems OK too.  
   See you all in a few hours,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS



-Original Message-
>From: Tom Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Dec 2, 2007 6:19 AM
>To: Kevin Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
>
>Hi Kevin:
>
>>Soon I have an anniversary I wish I could ignore.  Hopefully I'll 
>>have power so I can work my way through it!  However, propagation 
>>was incrementally better this week.  Twenty meters was fair during 
>>the week and forty meters was also.  Maybe we can hear each other 
>>tomorrow.  If it is like the last two weeks we will have to do 
>>something drastic.  Like change times or even bands.  I am open to 
>>suggestions for better coverage.
>
>Get Ole SOl thew develop more POX!!!
>
>I should be present for both nets... whether or not you can HEAR me 
>(or I you) will be the question.
>
>>I try to stay off the roads because of the two more dangerous types 
>>of drivers: those that think 4WD will keep them from skidding so 
>>they proceed to drive at their normal ten miles or more over the 
>>speed limit.  The body repair folks love them!  Then the other type 
>>of driver who cause accidents: they drive at 5 mph and brake 
>>erratically and often.  Wending your way between these two types of 
>>drivers is an experience I would rather not brave.
>
>Remember that "4-Wheel Drive" means getting further out into the 
>boonies before you have to walk out for help!
>
>>The wood is stacked next to the stove, the propane tanks are ready 
>>if the power goes out, Sam and I are cozy and warm with plenty of 
>>food for the two of us.
>
>Tom
>

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Re: [Elecraft] more on K3 display

2007-12-02 Thread Bob Cunnings
Maybe what you need is the ability to recall presets, like the Orion
USER1/USER2 feature?

Bob NW8L

On Dec 2, 2007 3:06 PM, Dick Green WC1M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to beat a dead horse :), but I thought of another contest situation
> where I need a visual status reading. Most of the time when I replace an op
> at a M/S, M/2 or M/M station, I have to go over the radio with a fine
> toothed-comb to reset the operating parameters back to a reasonable
> baseline. You never know what the previous op might have done. It would be a
> pain to have to turn a lot of knobs and push a lot of buttons to get the
> status.
>
>
>
> Seems to me that since this is an SDR, there could be a reasonable solution.
> How about an alternate display mode for contesters? Or, perhaps there could
> be a bunch of user-selectable options for what gets displayed by default and
> what requires manual intervention to see.
>
>
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Dave G4AON

Just as well I have an Acom 1000, it works perfectly with my K3...
No keying issues and no ALC needed (or provided) and one simple phono to phono 
coax lead between them for keying.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
Acom 1000

=
The biggest events I have seen are pretty important: The reversed 
polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC polarity setup is not presently 
compatible with widely used amps from Yaesu and ICOM - perhaps 
incompatible with ALL amps requiring ALC, but I am not sure about 
that). This was discussed on the k3 yahoo reflector a couple weeks 
ago. Also the mention here  the other day of a similar polarity 
mismatch problem with a CW loopback feature for QSK (that I don't 
really understand).


Elecraft says they will develop a work around for the ALC problem at 
some future time. This ALC thing is a major item for AMP users trying 
to follow their manufacturer's instructions for setup.


Jerry W4UK 


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Re: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread David Wilburn
Besides, real mean don't need no stinkin amps!  ;^)
-  

David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982


On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 14:03 -0800, Don Rasmussen wrote:
> Jerry pointed out:
> "The biggest events I have seen are pretty important:
> The reversed polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC
> polarity setup is not presently compatible with widely
> used amps from Yaesu and ICOM" 
> 
> I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
> Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
> function you mention is working as engineered. 
> 
> It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
> shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.
> 
> I've seen all this and more with other new transceiver
> offerings. It also seems the bad seems to stay far
> longer than anyone would expect. 
> 
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[Elecraft] more on K3 display

2007-12-02 Thread Dick Green WC1M
Not to beat a dead horse :), but I thought of another contest situation
where I need a visual status reading. Most of the time when I replace an op
at a M/S, M/2 or M/M station, I have to go over the radio with a fine
toothed-comb to reset the operating parameters back to a reasonable
baseline. You never know what the previous op might have done. It would be a
pain to have to turn a lot of knobs and push a lot of buttons to get the
status.

 

Seems to me that since this is an SDR, there could be a reasonable solution.
How about an alternate display mode for contesters? Or, perhaps there could
be a bunch of user-selectable options for what gets displayed by default and
what requires manual intervention to see.

 

73, Dick WC1M

 

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[Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Don Rasmussen
Jerry pointed out:
"The biggest events I have seen are pretty important:
The reversed polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC
polarity setup is not presently compatible with widely
used amps from Yaesu and ICOM" 

I guess I have to leave you room for your opinion
Jerry, but it's a newly released radio and the
function you mention is working as engineered. 

It's not like the radio is popping finals, has RFI
shielding problems, or "hangs" periodically.

I've seen all this and more with other new transceiver
offerings. It also seems the bad seems to stay far
longer than anyone would expect. 

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Re: [Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Jerry Flanders

At 03:49 PM 12/2/2007, Don Rasmussen wrote:

...I was also planning on featuring critical late
information about problems related to the initial mass
release of this radio.

So far, this major event of the protective plastic
film, is it there, is it not there, seems to be the
biggest event I've seen.

The radio Gods are smiling. ;-)


The biggest events I have seen are pretty important: The reversed 
polarity of the ALC voltage (K3 ALC polarity setup is not presently 
compatible with widely used amps from Yaesu and ICOM - perhaps 
incompatible with ALL amps requiring ALC, but I am not sure about 
that). This was discussed on the k3 yahoo reflector a couple weeks 
ago. Also the mention here  the other day of a similar polarity 
mismatch problem with a CW loopback feature for QSK (that I don't 
really understand).


Elecraft says they will develop a work around for the ALC problem at 
some future time. This ALC thing is a major item for AMP users trying 
to follow their manufacturer's instructions for setup.


Jerry W4UK 


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[Elecraft] 6 is open into el 87 from the norht east, time to try out those K3's

2007-12-02 Thread Ed Rodriguez


6 is open into el 87 from the norht east, time to try out those K3's



De wp4o, Ed, Tampa, Fl
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 high current draw with no power output

2007-12-02 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ron,

How much power is actually being produced?  Measure with an external 
wattmeter, then look at the bargraph display and see how many bars are 
indicated.  If there is a lot of power being produced (120 watts or 
greater) and the bargraph does not indicate any RF power, you should 
look at the wattmeter section of the KPA100 - particularly T4.


If the actual power output is not being reported to the base K2 
microprocessor, the base K2 will increase drive in an effort to produce 
more power (because it thinks that is no power output).
The solution to that situation is to find the fault in the wattmeter of 
the KPA100.


73,
Don W3FPR

Ron Hahn (EI2JP) wrote:

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I've just finished a KPA100 and am in the process of doing the final
checkout.

I've made it past the bias adjustment stage and the power supply test
stages.

Below 11 watts output (PA switched out) everything seems to work OK.

Setting the power output to 20 watts and pressing tune results in NO
power output and a current draw of approx. 26 amps.  Not good.

I checked recent posts regarding this problem but none seem to have the
high current problem associated with no KPA output power.

Suggestions?

Thanks a mil,

Ron

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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ken,

That frequency is considered very close to the nominal value - the VCO 
frequency is not the problem.


Now, you are in for some Transmit Signal Tracing on 160 meters.  Get out 
an RF Probe (I believe you got one with  your K2) and turn the K2 manual 
to Appendix E and look for 'Transmit Signal Tracing'.  For now, ignore 
the parts that tell you to set the K2 to 40 meters, but do connect a 
good dummy load - we will come back to the preliminary measurements if 
required. Start instead at the points listed below the midpoint of the 
first column of page 14.  Do those measurements in order, switching 
between 80 meters and 160.  When you find a point where the RF voltage 
on 160 is substantially lower than that on 80 meters (higher is 
generally OK) - stop, you have found the troublesome stage and more 
detailed investigation is to be done at that stage.


73,
Don W3FPR


Ken Alexander wrote:

6713.95 with the K2 tuned to 1800 kHz, CW.  Is that
considered close or do I have some work to do?

73 - Ken



--- Ken Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hi Don,

It receives great on 160.  The band was really
hopping
last night.

I'll get back to you as soon as I figure out where
this probe plugs in and where TP1 is.

Thanks and 73,

Ken





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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Alexander
I hope that 6713.95 is OK because I just checked the
other VCO freqs at band edge and they're all off by
roughly the same amount, except for 15 and 10m, which
are both 0.97 kHz high.

73 - Ken


--- Ken Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 6713.95 with the K2 tuned to 1800 kHz, CW.  Is that
> considered close or do I have some work to do?
> 
> 73 - Ken
> 
> 
> 
> --- Ken Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Don,
> > 
> > It receives great on 160.  The band was really
> > hopping
> > last night.
> > 
> > I'll get back to you as soon as I figure out where
> > this probe plugs in and where TP1 is.
> > 
> > Thanks and 73,
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ken,
> > > 
> > > Yes, that is bad - you have no output on 160
> > meters.
> > >  How about 
> > > receive?  If it receives on 160 but not
> transmit,
> > > that narrows the 
> > > search area down considerably.
> > > 
> > > Check the frequency at TP1 with the internal
> probe
> > > and CAL FCTR after 
> > > you have tuned the K2 to 1800 kHz.  If you find
> a
> > > frequency very far 
> > > away from 6715 kHz, the problem is with the VCO,
> > and
> > > most likely the VFO 
> > > Range Select section - C75 must be selected and
> of
> > a
> > > proper value (470 
> > > pf) to tune 160 meters.
> > > 
> > > 73,
> > > Don W3FPR
> > > Ken Alexander wrote:
> > > > Hi Leigh,
> > > >
> > > > Receive (80 and 160m):  approx 35 mA
> > > > Tune (80m):  3.x Amps
> > > > Tune (160m):  approx. 50 mA
> > > >
> > > > This is bad, right?
> > > >
> > > > 73 - Ken
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 high current draw with no power output

2007-12-02 Thread Ron Hahn (EI2JP)
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Colleagues,

I've just finished a KPA100 and am in the process of doing the final
checkout.

I've made it past the bias adjustment stage and the power supply test
stages.

Below 11 watts output (PA switched out) everything seems to work OK.

Setting the power output to 20 watts and pressing tune results in NO
power output and a current draw of approx. 26 amps.  Not good.

I checked recent posts regarding this problem but none seem to have the
high current problem associated with no KPA output power.

Suggestions?

Thanks a mil,

Ron

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[Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Don Rasmussen
Sorry for the redundant post on that great video. Mr.
Eric PA3CEV posted a review on eham with this info and
that is where I saw it first, looking for new reviews.

I am often roving the web for neat stuff for the wiki.


I was also planning on featuring critical late 
information about problems related to the initial mass
release of this radio.

So far, this major event of the protective plastic
film, is it there, is it not there, seems to be the
biggest event I've seen. 

The radio Gods are smiling. ;-)



http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Wiki_at_ZeroBeat.NET



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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Alexander
6713.95 with the K2 tuned to 1800 kHz, CW.  Is that
considered close or do I have some work to do?

73 - Ken



--- Ken Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Don,
> 
> It receives great on 160.  The band was really
> hopping
> last night.
> 
> I'll get back to you as soon as I figure out where
> this probe plugs in and where TP1 is.
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> --- Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ken,
> > 
> > Yes, that is bad - you have no output on 160
> meters.
> >  How about 
> > receive?  If it receives on 160 but not transmit,
> > that narrows the 
> > search area down considerably.
> > 
> > Check the frequency at TP1 with the internal probe
> > and CAL FCTR after 
> > you have tuned the K2 to 1800 kHz.  If you find a
> > frequency very far 
> > away from 6715 kHz, the problem is with the VCO,
> and
> > most likely the VFO 
> > Range Select section - C75 must be selected and of
> a
> > proper value (470 
> > pf) to tune 160 meters.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> > Ken Alexander wrote:
> > > Hi Leigh,
> > >
> > > Receive (80 and 160m):  approx 35 mA
> > > Tune (80m):  3.x Amps
> > > Tune (160m):  approx. 50 mA
> > >
> > > This is bad, right?
> > >
> > > 73 - Ken
> > >   
> > >
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Don,

It receives great on 160.  The band was really hopping
last night.

I'll get back to you as soon as I figure out where
this probe plugs in and where TP1 is.

Thanks and 73,

Ken



--- Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> Yes, that is bad - you have no output on 160 meters.
>  How about 
> receive?  If it receives on 160 but not transmit,
> that narrows the 
> search area down considerably.
> 
> Check the frequency at TP1 with the internal probe
> and CAL FCTR after 
> you have tuned the K2 to 1800 kHz.  If you find a
> frequency very far 
> away from 6715 kHz, the problem is with the VCO, and
> most likely the VFO 
> Range Select section - C75 must be selected and of a
> proper value (470 
> pf) to tune 160 meters.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> Ken Alexander wrote:
> > Hi Leigh,
> >
> > Receive (80 and 160m):  approx 35 mA
> > Tune (80m):  3.x Amps
> > Tune (160m):  approx. 50 mA
> >
> > This is bad, right?
> >
> > 73 - Ken
> >   
> >
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] AGC Threshold Ok! (was Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?)

2007-12-02 Thread Jerry Flanders
FYI - 50 microvolts is the widely accepted "S9" signal level, not 20 
over. I would guess the 1uV is around S1, but not sure about that 
one. More info in the Elecraft manual on the XG1 or XG2.


Jerry W4UK

At 10:43 AM 12/2/2007, Kurt Pawlikowski wrote:

Sarah,
... I'm told that in a properly adjusted (and complete?) radio, a 1 
micro-volt signal should register about S-3 and 50 micro-volt should 
be something like 20 db over 9.


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[Elecraft] Neat K3 Video!

2007-12-02 Thread Don Rasmussen
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Wiki_at_ZeroBeat.NET

Click on the first news item - PA3CEV.
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ken,

Yes, that is bad - you have no output on 160 meters.  How about 
receive?  If it receives on 160 but not transmit, that narrows the 
search area down considerably.


Check the frequency at TP1 with the internal probe and CAL FCTR after 
you have tuned the K2 to 1800 kHz.  If you find a frequency very far 
away from 6715 kHz, the problem is with the VCO, and most likely the VFO 
Range Select section - C75 must be selected and of a proper value (470 
pf) to tune 160 meters.


73,
Don W3FPR
Ken Alexander wrote:

Hi Leigh,

Receive (80 and 160m):  approx 35 mA
Tune (80m):  3.x Amps
Tune (160m):  approx. 50 mA

This is bad, right?

73 - Ken
  


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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Very low output on 160m

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Leigh,

Receive (80 and 160m):  approx 35 mA
Tune (80m):  3.x Amps
Tune (160m):  approx. 50 mA

This is bad, right?

73 - Ken


--- "Leigh L Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Check the current draw as compared to 80m.
> If same as 80m but just low output, look in 160m Low
> pass filter.  If 
> low, then look for a drive problem, possible BPF.
> 73,
> Leigh/WA5ZNU
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 6:22 pm, Ken Alexander wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As usual, I decide to do something new with my K2
> > during a contest!  I'll never learn!
> >
> > Tonight, I'm trying 160m for the first time. 
> Before I
> > go any further, I should mention that my K2
> receives
> > extremely well on 160.  However, when I hit the
> Tune
> > button to send some RF to my autotuner and get it
> > tuning, the indicated output is 0.3 Watts even
> though
> > the Power knob is set to 10 Watts.  An external
> > wattmeter confirms this.
> >
> > I replaced the antenna with a dummy load and got
> the
> > same result.  RANT is set to OFF in case you're
> > wondering.
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be a Troubleshooting section
> in
> > the K160RX manual so I'm at a loss to know what to
> > look at.  Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks and 73,
> >
> > Ken Alexander
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Re: [Elecraft] CQWW Stateside QRM

2007-12-02 Thread Kevin Cozens

Julian G4ILO wrote:

Just need to put in a few extra hours tomorrow to do the 12 hours
minimum required to submit a log.


That comment had me pull up the contest rules as I had never heard of a 
minimum time you need to work a contest before one can submit a log. Turns out 
the actual rule is a minimum of 12 hours operating time in order to be 
eligible for the awards.


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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] anyone a K3 to K3 qso on 20 ??? 40 ??

2007-12-02 Thread Bill NY9H

anyone a K3 to K3 qso on 20 ??? 40 ??

bill

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RE: [Elecraft] Crushproof KX1

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Johnson
Denny that is cool!  What's chances I could get you to build one for me?  I
would also like to see some photos!


72,

Bill 

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First, I made a round sleeve to protect the tuning knob and a U-shaped piece

for over the other knobs out of thin cardboard, taping them into place with 
that blue tape that painters use. Then I cut holes for the switches in a 
thicker piece and taped it over them. Next, I carefully, but not tightly, 
wrapped two layers of plastic wrap around the rig & taped it together on the

bottom. I applied a paper towel over that, taping it on the bottom, and 
snuggly wrapped the whole thing in aluminum foil with the seams at the 
bottom.



Next, following the kit's directions, I applied two layers of fiberglass to 
the top & down the sides, holding it tight, especially in the corners, with 
about a dozen rubber bands. I let it hang straight down from the antenna 
connector, though. After it dried, I carefully removed everything, pulling 
excess foil from inside the cover (I actually used etchant to remove all the

foil, but it's not necessary), and trimmed it so it would extend about ¾ way

down the sides. I trimmed it up around where the earphone plug would be 
though, so I could leave the phones plugged in, if desired. The trimming 
left some rough edges, so I mixed up another small amount of epoxy and 
sealed everything.



After the cover was completely dry, I cut out & applied pieces of stick-on 
felt to the inside corners & several other spots, which keeps the rig from 
being scratched & creates a snug fit. The end result - I'm able to carry my 
KX1 in about anything it will fit in, and the only abuse the controls get is

from me using them.



Denny PaytonN9JXY


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[Elecraft] KAT100 and K3

2007-12-02 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
The answer is found in the FAQ (search harder!).  LOL

[snip]
Does the K3 support the K2 auxbus?

Yes, the Accessory Connector provides an auxbus signal for standard,
external K2 accessories. The list at present includes the KRC2 decoder
and the various VHF and UHF transverters.

The KAT100 and KPA100 in an EC2 enclosure is NOT supported. The KPA100
was designed as an integral part of the K2, and specifically not as a
general purpose HF amplifier. In addition, the KPA100 does not include
coverage of 6 meters.  The KAT100 requires considerable bi-directional
traffic on the auxbus, and could lead to RFI and other issues.
[end snip]

and

[snip]
Does the automatic antenna tuner work with the 10W QRP version of the K3?
Yes.  Additionally, the K3 firmware does NOT support the KAT100 or the KPA100.
[end snip]

and

[snip]
The KAT100 and KPA100 in an EC2 enclosure is NOT supported.
[end snip]

and

[snip]
We also don't plan to support the KAT100, for [very good] reasons I
outlined in my earlier posting on the auxbus.
[end snip]

That should do it!  :-)

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] Fw: PA jumper board/display film

2007-12-02 Thread Sanger, Joseph
as did mine, exactly .. SN #113

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FWIW, mine (S/N 56) ordered as a K3/100 
came with a jumper board.

And no protective film on the display.

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[Elecraft] Fw: PA jumper board/display film

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Kopp
FWIW, mine (S/N 56) ordered as a K3/100 
came with a jumper board.


And no protective film on the display.

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[Elecraft] K3 prod runs: summary

2007-12-02 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Michael (et al):

It is my impression that Eric and Wayne have defined it as follows:

Run #1 ends with orders placed on ~May 14 (deposit or not).

Currently, it appears that they still shipping KIT orders placed on
May 1 + 2 and ASSEMBLED ordered placed at the end of April to May 1.
You should consider adding a buffer to these numbers, as I may be a
couple days off by now.

So run #2 is still a ways off (but getting closer).  I am near the
"beginning" of Run #2, having first ordered during the opening hours
of Dayton (May 18).

There currently is USUALLY an update "early in the week" (last time
was Monday), so we may know more tomorrow.

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ..what production run is currently being shipped?

2007-12-02 Thread Larry Phipps
Looking at the wiki, http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers, it appears to be about 25 per week, and is accelerating as time goes on. They were at the half-way point of the 1st run on about Nov. 28. Depending on the acceleration rate, that implies a projected wrap-up of the 1st run in the 2nd-3rd week of December. Of course, it's only a SWAG as far as the acceleration rate goes ;-) 


I ordered on April 30, with no deposit, and expect to get a notice in a couple 
weeks, and hopefully a shipment before the end of the year. If I had only had 
the foresight to make a deposit, I would have had mine long ago ;-(

I'm eager to get mine hooked to my panadapter prototype ;-)

73,
Larry N8LP



Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:53:23 -0500
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I would guess not very many, judging from the serial numbers being 
reported here occasionally as they are received in the field. 117 the 
other day is the highest SN I can remember.


Jerry W4UK



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[Elecraft]KAT100 will it work with the K3

2007-12-02 Thread Bryan
Hi Allan,

It is not compatibloe with the K3

73 Bryan  GM3AKF
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[Elecraft] KAT100-1: will it work with the K3??

2007-12-02 Thread Allan Taylor
I searched the Elecraft website and couldn't answer the question: Will
the KAT100-1 work with the K3?
This question has likely come up before, so I ask your patience with
it coming up again.

-- 
73 AllanK7GT
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RE: [Elecraft] AGC Threshold Ok! (was Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?)

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Baker
Hello Sarah,

Having spent 10 years or so in apartments trying to operate HF I can
recommend a couple of things to improve your evaluation of the K2.
GET THE ANTENNA OUTSIDE AND IF POSSIBE MAKE IT REASONATE. I had a
friend give me the remains of a couple of Hustler mobile antenna setups
including two masts and 2 40 and 2 20 meter resonators. I used a mount I got
at the time from a CB store to make a rotatable dipole and put it on a
camera tripod with duct tape. 
Not pretty but it fit on the patio for the first test and made a
usable receive antenna. 
Later I made an extension mast from the pole off a pool skimmer and
put it in a TV tripod and just stood it on my balcony lashed to the handrail
with bungee cords. 
This put the antenna up and away from the building which was stucco
over wire and block. This type of construction acts like a faraday shield
and won't let you hear diddly. 
I had to put it up and down each day I intended to use it so the
mgmnt wouldn't have a fit but it worked well enough to keep me from being
QRT.
Good luck with your K2 project. You have the greatest resource at
your fingertips with the company and this reflector so failure is unlikely.
I know we will hear you on the air at some point. ;>)

Michael Baker  K7DD
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah K
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:58 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] AGC Threshold Ok! (was Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?)

Hi All,

Good news... I got my K2's replacement voltage regulator (LM2930T-8)  
from Elecraft on Friday. Today I took out the old one and put in the  
new one... the output of the voltage regulator is now 8.04 volts,  
which is a whole lot better than the 7.53 volts I had gotten before!  
And after adjusting R1, the AGC threshold is reading 3.80, exactly  
where it should be!

Elecraft also sent me a replacement R116 which was missing (I think!)  
so I was able to finish building Part II and move on to the alignment  
and test for Part II.

Someone on the list (NM5B) had recommend I pick up a few of the  
Elecraft mini-modules, so I ordered the noise generator, the 50uV  
signal generator, and the dummy load. I put those together today too,  
with no issues, and used them to help work through the alignment and  
test.

On the whole, I was quite happy with the results of the alignment and  
test; all of the instructions were fairly straightforward, and, even  
better, my K2 seemed to pass all of them perfectly! Yay!

And the noise generator works; I can hear the noise. The signal  
generator works, too; when I tune around 7040 kHz, I can hear the 40m  
50uV oscillator.

Now comes my strange and possibly embarrassing question...

Um... should I be able to receive anything yet? Keep in mind, this is  
my first radio... well, second, if you count my Yaesu VX-7R... and I  
don't entirely know what to expect.

I have what is probably a very bad antenna; it's just two pieces of  
random wire I had laying around, soldered onto a BNC connector, and  
draped around the room. The total length is probably 20-25 feet,  
which I *know* isn't the right length for 40 meters... but it was the  
longest wire I had laying around. When I hook it to the K2 via a 3ft  
BNC patch cable, I definitely hear an increase in the noise level in  
the headphones.

But I wasn't able to tune into anything that sounded like an actual  
transmission. No voice, no CW. I tried switching between CW, LSB, and  
USB. And I fiddled with the filter settings.

I did hear a couple different kinds of things:

I hear whistling noises that increase or decrease in pitch as I tune  
around.

I hear "pops" that happen when I tune across some small range of  
frequencies. These pops seem to be mostly repeatable, as if I'm  
hitting something in the same spot in the band, but I was never able  
to tune in to anything.

I do also hear several places where the noise is louder, and the S- 
meter increases by a notch or two... and once or twice I heard  
something that could possibly have been very, very garbled speech.  
But I wasn't ever able to tune into those, either, and in fact it  
could have been my imagination.

And, so far... that's about it.

Some other things that might be worth pointing out: I have a high- 
voltage transmission line and a substation about a block away from  
me... and my antenna is parallel to it. And I connected the VX-7R to  
the same antenna and it gets similar kinds of noise, and no signals  
on 40m either. Also, I'm on the 2nd floor of an apartment, and an  
outside antenna isn't going to be feasible here. I didn't try  
grounding the K2 to the electrical ground yet... I certainly can't  
install my own ground rod, either! I was running the K2 from 12 volts  
worth of D batteries, to minimize power supply noise. And I turned  
off all the fluorescent lights, which dropped the noise 

Re: [Elecraft] AGC Threshold Ok! (was Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?)

2007-12-02 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski

Sarah,

   While I'm not familiar with the VX-7R and don't own a K2, it sounds 
like things are working. If you receive something from the noise 
generator and the signal generator (particularly if you switch the 
latter to 1 micro-volt), your rig is probably working correctly. I don't 
know how much that will change when you have completed the radio. I'm 
told that in a properly adjusted (and complete?) radio, a 1 micro-volt 
signal should register about S-3 and 50 micro-volt should be something 
like 20 db over 9. Part of what you are experiencing is the relatively 
poor HF band conditions and part is from the low gain antenna. If you 
tune around during the day, you should probably hear *something* in at 
least the 40 meter CW portion...


   Hope that helps! Have fun.

   Regards,

   kurtt

   Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC
   The Pinrod Corporation
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (773) 284-9500
   http://pinrod.com

Sarah K wrote:

Hi All,

Good news... I got my K2's replacement voltage regulator (LM2930T-8) 
from Elecraft on Friday. Today I took out the old one and put in the 
new one... the output of the voltage regulator is now 8.04 volts, 
which is a whole lot better than the 7.53 volts I had gotten before! 
And after adjusting R1, the AGC threshold is reading 3.80, exactly 
where it should be!


Elecraft also sent me a replacement R116 which was missing (I think!) 
so I was able to finish building Part II and move on to the alignment 
and test for Part II.


Someone on the list (NM5B) had recommend I pick up a few of the 
Elecraft mini-modules, so I ordered the noise generator, the 50uV 
signal generator, and the dummy load. I put those together today too, 
with no issues, and used them to help work through the alignment and 
test.


On the whole, I was quite happy with the results of the alignment and 
test; all of the instructions were fairly straightforward, and, even 
better, my K2 seemed to pass all of them perfectly! Yay!


And the noise generator works; I can hear the noise. The signal 
generator works, too; when I tune around 7040 kHz, I can hear the 40m 
50uV oscillator.


Now comes my strange and possibly embarrassing question...

Um... should I be able to receive anything yet? Keep in mind, this is 
my first radio... well, second, if you count my Yaesu VX-7R... and I 
don't entirely know what to expect.


I have what is probably a very bad antenna; it's just two pieces of 
random wire I had laying around, soldered onto a BNC connector, and 
draped around the room. The total length is probably 20-25 feet, which 
I *know* isn't the right length for 40 meters... but it was the 
longest wire I had laying around. When I hook it to the K2 via a 3ft 
BNC patch cable, I definitely hear an increase in the noise level in 
the headphones.


But I wasn't able to tune into anything that sounded like an actual 
transmission. No voice, no CW. I tried switching between CW, LSB, and 
USB. And I fiddled with the filter settings.


I did hear a couple different kinds of things:

I hear whistling noises that increase or decrease in pitch as I tune 
around.


I hear "pops" that happen when I tune across some small range of 
frequencies. These pops seem to be mostly repeatable, as if I'm 
hitting something in the same spot in the band, but I was never able 
to tune in to anything.


I do also hear several places where the noise is louder, and the 
S-meter increases by a notch or two... and once or twice I heard 
something that could possibly have been very, very garbled speech. But 
I wasn't ever able to tune into those, either, and in fact it could 
have been my imagination.


And, so far... that's about it.

Some other things that might be worth pointing out: I have a 
high-voltage transmission line and a substation about a block away 
from me... and my antenna is parallel to it. And I connected the VX-7R 
to the same antenna and it gets similar kinds of noise, and no signals 
on 40m either. Also, I'm on the 2nd floor of an apartment, and an 
outside antenna isn't going to be feasible here. I didn't try 
grounding the K2 to the electrical ground yet... I certainly can't 
install my own ground rod, either! I was running the K2 from 12 volts 
worth of D batteries, to minimize power supply noise. And I turned off 
all the fluorescent lights, which dropped the noise considerably, but 
didn't reveal anything underneath the noise.


So... does this sound appropriate given the current situation? Should 
I be hearing more than this? Am I not understanding how the K2 works? 
Am I missing something very basic about ham radio? Am I doing 
something silly? :-)


Should I try a better/different antenna? I now have about 150ft of 
12ga stranded wire that I can use for a second test  antenna; if I run 
it perpendicular to the high voltage line I think I can go 40ft in a 
mostly straight line, and probably 50ft with one right-angle bend in 
it. I can't get to 67ft without some major contortions; my apartment 
just isn't that big

[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread Dave G4AON

Except the instructions call for the K3 to be tested as a 10 Watt unit before 
installing the PA, therefore the jumper is necessary!

It is possible to install the PA from scratch, so if there is no jumper it's 
not a show stopper.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>> 
wrote ...

/Sorry, I should have replied earlier on this - I think I remember Ron (wrote

/>/assembly manuals) or someone else from Elecraft saying that the jumper would
/>/not be included in the kit if you ordered a K3/100.
/
Thank you, David, I wondering that myself.  Now we all know not to 
expect the jumper with our K3/100s.


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Fw: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread Gary Bartlett VE1RGB


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Bartlett VE1RGB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?


Sorry to add to the confusion, but #095 was ordered as a K3/100, and it 
did come with the PA jumper block installed.  Looks like we have some 
program start-up configuration issues.


   Gary, VE1RGB


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?


Sorry, I should have replied earlier on this - I think I remember Ron 
(wrote
assembly manuals) or someone else from Elecraft saying that the jumper 
would

not be included in the kit if you ordered a K3/100.

On 1/12/07 21:00, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

My RF board is missing the PA Jumper Block.  Any other K3 builders
have this problem?  Is it safe to proceed with assembly?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends? - Update

2007-12-02 Thread k4tmc


Ron,

Thanks for the clarification on the changes.  I did find that the 
changes are less significant than I first thought.  So, I am proceeding 
with Rev B, but am also following the same steps in Rev C.  My 
frustration was centered around the changes relative to the PA Jumper 
Block.  One manual implied that I would not need it since I had the 100 
watt amp, while the other clearly stated that I still needed it.  Then 
I became concerned about what other similar changes that may be 
forthcoming as I proceeded.  And, the manual information on the web 
page would not allow me to track the changes between my manual and the 
latest manual.


Coupled with that was finding the item missing from a board that was 
supposed to be checked before shipment.  The jumper block is the only 
thing that can be easily removed from the RF board.  Thusly, that 
should be a high priority check before placing them into the bags.


As an aside for others, my professional background is quality 
assurance/quality control, and these types of problems are normal 
issues that develop in manufacturing new products or in low quantity 
standard products.  This goes along with the already discussed product 
delays.


For those concerned about the dog...she is fine.  I found that I did 
not have to print the whole Rev C manual; therefore, I took her for a 
walk.  The fresh air helped both of us!


Also, I did get a response from Elecraft Support on Saturday afternoon, 
less than 24 hours after my separate note to them.  Realizing that it 
is the weekend and the workload they may be experiencing, I find that 
satisfactory.  I found that I have been spoiled by the quicker 
responses from Elecraft users and experts like W3FPR, etc.


Lisa can expect a phone call from me Monday requesting a PA Jumper 
Block.


Back to the workbench...and more frequent walks...

73,
Henry - K4TMC


-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?










Not a bit. Rev B will get you there perfectly. Rev C streamlines the 
process

to remove perhaps 5 minutes of work, that's all.

Because many steps were moved around, if you've started assembly with 
Rev B
I recommend you finish using that Rev to be sure you don't miss any 
steps.


Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?


So... I am wasting my time trying to build my K3 with the Assembly
Manual (Rev B-1) that came in the box!

I really did not want to throw away the manual that came in the box,
but it apparently is of little value now.

I am now stopping work and printing a new manual.

73,
Henry - K4TMC
(while its printing I think I'll go kick the dog)


-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 8:03 pm
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?










While most revisions to a new letter involve incorporating the items
shown
in the errata, there was an additional major change made between Rev B
and
Rev C of the K3 Kit Assembly Manual.

The procedure was reorganized to allow builders with the KPA3 100 watt
amplifier module to install the KPA3 shield assembly during the initial
build. That avoids removing the bottom covers and KNB3 module and
standoff
later to install the shield. New steps were added to actually install
the
shield, a number of existing steps were moved to put them in the most
convenient order.

Almost every page in the assembly procedure was changed in order to
accomplish that.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:00:35 -0500, you wrote:



Simon, et al,

[snip]


As an aside, it sure would be nice to know what changed from manual
revision to revision.  That way I could just update the manual that
came with the kit originally.  In my full-time job, when a procedure

is

changed, there is always a sheet describing what
paragraphs/sentences/pages were changed.  That makes it easy to see
where the differences exist.


[snip]

Go to the web site and download the errata for the manuals in question
is
how I would find out.

Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq


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[Elecraft] New QRP Club!

2007-12-02 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello fellow QRPers,

I would like to announce the formation of the Polar Bear QRP Club. The
PB QRP Club originated from the EPA QRP Club, but has grown over the
years. It was time to make it a club instead of a program. Many thanks
go to Ron, WB3AAL, for all his hard work nurturing the PB Program from a
cub into a bear.  If you would like to see what the Polar Bear QRP Club
is all about, click on the link below. 

http://www.polarbearqrp.org

72,
Roo Bear Ed, WA3WSJ

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[Elecraft] Assembly Manual Revisions

2007-12-02 Thread Dave Yarnes
Ron, AC7AC Said:While most revisions to a new letter involve incorporating 
the items shown

in the errata, there was an additional major change made between Rev B and
Rev C of the K3 Kit Assembly Manual.

The procedure was reorganized to allow builders with the KPA3 100 watt
amplifier module to install the KPA3 shield assembly during the initial
build. That avoids removing the bottom covers and KNB3 module and standoff
later to install the shield. New steps were added to actually install the
shield, a number of existing steps were moved to put them in the most
convenient order.

Almost every page in the assembly procedure was changed in order to
accomplish that.
---Ron and All,I certainly support this change.  I just 
finished installing the KPA3, andfelt like I was doing an excessive amount 
of backtracking.  The KPA3 would be considerably easier to install with the 
change you indicate.  Bravo!Dave W7AQK 



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[Elecraft] K3 display for contesters

2007-12-02 Thread Dwight Baker
Dick, you are on target about the TenTec reflector.  The same thing is going
on at the FT-2000 reflector now.  It seems every item warrants a flame from
someone who does not agree.

 

The Elecraft reflector is very tame compared to the FT-2000.  Eric and Wayne
are to be credited for not only bringing forth a super product but their
willingness to address any and all issues.

 

So my hat is to all at Elecraft for being a class act.

 

Dwight  

W4IJY

K2 #4766 (ain't done yet)

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[Elecraft] Bandpass filter tutorial (was K3 Filters)

2007-12-02 Thread Barry N1EU
Al makes a good point - the steepness of the digital filter skirt
makes a big difference in what you hear.  In high QRN condx on cw
(i.e., narrow selectivity), it's often desirable to use shallower
sloped dsp filtering to avoid ringing.  Has there been any discussion
about a K3 menu option to vary the dsp filter slope?  Several other
DSP/SDR radios allow you to vary a "TAPS" setting for the digital FIR
filters.


>So the amount of ringing depends on the filter bandwidth and the steepness
of the filter skirts.  The narrower the bandwidth and the steeper the
skirts, the more ringing.

>The above is true for both digital and analog filters.

73,
Barry N1EU
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[Elecraft] K3 in action

2007-12-02 Thread Barry N1EU
Great little clip Eric!  How about a full length feature?

Nice to hear the K3 sounding good on cw.

73,
Barry N1EU


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote ...

Sorry, I should have replied earlier on this - I think I remember Ron (wrote
assembly manuals) or someone else from Elecraft saying that the jumper would
not be included in the kit if you ordered a K3/100.


Thank you, David, I wondering that myself.  Now we all know not to 
expect the jumper with our K3/100s.


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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread Simon Lewis
Mine came with one and I ordered a pa - maybe they changed their mind!


Simon Lewis 
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Sent: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2007 12:52
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?


Sorry, I should have replied earlier on this - I think I remember Ron (wrote
assembly manuals) or someone else from Elecraft saying that the jumper would
not be included in the kit if you ordered a K3/100.

On 1/12/07 21:00, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> My RF board is missing the PA Jumper Block.  Any other K3 builders 
> have this problem?  Is it safe to proceed with assembly?
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[Elecraft] RE K3 display for contesters, msg 8 by WC1M

2007-12-02 Thread Robert Allbright

Dick

Thanks for your interesting email, much appreciated and understood.

Long live Elecraft

73
Robert G3RCE



Well, speaking as someone with an "almost" big-gun station, SNIP
-
At times it's been difficult to raise legitimate criticisms
of the Orion without getting flamed from all sides by Ten-Tec loyalists,
many of whom have limited technical knowledge and experience
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similarly there are such Elecraft loyalists
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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread Ed K1EP
You won't be able to do the low power tests without either the jumper 
or the PAIO board.  The jumper was installed to make sure that you 
could do the tests without doing the PA install AND to make sure that 
you removed the jumper BEFORE doing any PA tests.



At 12/1/2007 04:12 PM, Simon Lewis wrote:

Henry

I would install the PAIO board that's in the 100w pa kit and use that by
setting the right setting in the menu PAIO normal setting under the KPA
config item - That should work as intended but with no PA installed and
allow your basic tests

The PA jumper is only needed if the 100w pa is not installed and no PAIO
board is available as far as I can see.

I think you should not have any issue doing that and it would work fine

Rgds

Simon




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Simon, et al,

Thanks for the quick responses.  I thought that with all of us building
these over the weekend, there would be someone answering support
questions.  But, I know they have been busy, and maybe need some time
off to deal with other issues.

I do have the KPA3 100 watt amp to install.

The assembly manual that came with the kit indicates that it is not
necessary if you are going to install the KPA3.  However, the picture
in the manual does show it already installed from Elecraft.

The latest assembly manual, from the web site, indicates that you will
still need the PA Jumper Block to do some initial testing before
installing the KPA3.

So, I am trying to get clarification as to whether I really need it.
And, if I do, I need to get someone to ship me one.

As an aside, it sure would be nice to know what changed from manual
revision to revision.  That way I could just update the manual that
came with the kit originally.  In my full-time job, when a procedure is
changed, there is always a sheet describing what
paragraphs/sentences/pages were changed.  That makes it easy to see
where the differences exist.

73,
Henry - K4TMC
K3#98

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?









You can continue, you will not need it if you have the 100W PA. It
should /
could be on the mainboard anyway.


Simon Brown, HB9DRV


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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?



> Is Elecraft Support active on the weekends?  No response received
from a
> late Friday afternoon note about a missing part.

>

> My RF board is missing the PA Jumper Block.  Any other K3 builders
have
> this problem?  Is it safe to proceed with assembly?

>

> 73,

> Henry - K4TMC

> K3 #98

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Sorry, better ignore that, I've just seen the mail from Ron saying it should
be there etc.
Back to waiting ...


On 2/12/07 11:51, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> Sorry, I should have replied earlier on this - I think I remember Ron (wrote
> assembly manuals) or someone else from Elecraft saying that the jumper would
> not be included in the kit if you ordered a K3/100.
> 
> On 1/12/07 21:00, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>> My RF board is missing the PA Jumper Block.  Any other K3 builders
>> have this problem?  Is it safe to proceed with assembly?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Support on the Weekends?

2007-12-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Sorry, I should have replied earlier on this - I think I remember Ron (wrote
assembly manuals) or someone else from Elecraft saying that the jumper would
not be included in the kit if you ordered a K3/100.

On 1/12/07 21:00, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> My RF board is missing the PA Jumper Block.  Any other K3 builders
> have this problem?  Is it safe to proceed with assembly?
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philologist (1892-1973)


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[Elecraft] AGC Threshold Ok! (was Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?)

2007-12-02 Thread Dave G4AON

Sarah

If the 50 uV signal generator indicates a signal level of around S9 on 
your K2, that is exactly how it should be.


Your length of wire in the room may not receive signals well, depending 
on the type of materials used to build your house it could be shielding 
signals by quite a few dBs. I would be tempted to run the wire out of a 
window or door and out to a support, it doesn't need to be very high - 
even at 6 feet high it should be picking up signals. During most of the 
day you should be hearing plenty on 20m and 40m, after dark you would 
need to move down in frequency as 20m will close.


73 Dave, G4AON
K1, K2/10 and K3/100

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[Elecraft] K3 in action

2007-12-02 Thread Eric

Hi all,


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=10f_1196591072





vy 73 Eric PA3CEV

K2#960
K3#122



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[Elecraft] AF1 white noise

2007-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Scheiblberger
Hi,

I assembled the AF1 External filter and it works.Only one thing is annoying: 
There is constant white noise on my headphones( tried different headphones) 
even when the af gain is set counter clockwise- this noise may cover very weak 
signals.Any ideas?
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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Feedback on K3 so far

2007-12-02 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

Simon,

Have you thought about satellite / duplex operation with the K3? It's not 
urgent - for LEO I have my TS-2000 but am thinking EME and HEO.


For LEO / HEO duplex is important but I have not worked out a solution 
regarding switching I/O with the K3, I have a sub-rx on order.


FWIW I do not suffer from strong signals locally.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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Well #114 far exceeds my expectations. 


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[Elecraft] AGC Threshold Ok! (was Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?)

2007-12-02 Thread Sarah K

Hi All,

Good news... I got my K2's replacement voltage regulator (LM2930T-8)  
from Elecraft on Friday. Today I took out the old one and put in the  
new one... the output of the voltage regulator is now 8.04 volts,  
which is a whole lot better than the 7.53 volts I had gotten before!  
And after adjusting R1, the AGC threshold is reading 3.80, exactly  
where it should be!


Elecraft also sent me a replacement R116 which was missing (I think!)  
so I was able to finish building Part II and move on to the alignment  
and test for Part II.


Someone on the list (NM5B) had recommend I pick up a few of the  
Elecraft mini-modules, so I ordered the noise generator, the 50uV  
signal generator, and the dummy load. I put those together today too,  
with no issues, and used them to help work through the alignment and  
test.


On the whole, I was quite happy with the results of the alignment and  
test; all of the instructions were fairly straightforward, and, even  
better, my K2 seemed to pass all of them perfectly! Yay!


And the noise generator works; I can hear the noise. The signal  
generator works, too; when I tune around 7040 kHz, I can hear the 40m  
50uV oscillator.


Now comes my strange and possibly embarrassing question...

Um... should I be able to receive anything yet? Keep in mind, this is  
my first radio... well, second, if you count my Yaesu VX-7R... and I  
don't entirely know what to expect.


I have what is probably a very bad antenna; it's just two pieces of  
random wire I had laying around, soldered onto a BNC connector, and  
draped around the room. The total length is probably 20-25 feet,  
which I *know* isn't the right length for 40 meters... but it was the  
longest wire I had laying around. When I hook it to the K2 via a 3ft  
BNC patch cable, I definitely hear an increase in the noise level in  
the headphones.


But I wasn't able to tune into anything that sounded like an actual  
transmission. No voice, no CW. I tried switching between CW, LSB, and  
USB. And I fiddled with the filter settings.


I did hear a couple different kinds of things:

I hear whistling noises that increase or decrease in pitch as I tune  
around.


I hear "pops" that happen when I tune across some small range of  
frequencies. These pops seem to be mostly repeatable, as if I'm  
hitting something in the same spot in the band, but I was never able  
to tune in to anything.


I do also hear several places where the noise is louder, and the S- 
meter increases by a notch or two... and once or twice I heard  
something that could possibly have been very, very garbled speech.  
But I wasn't ever able to tune into those, either, and in fact it  
could have been my imagination.


And, so far... that's about it.

Some other things that might be worth pointing out: I have a high- 
voltage transmission line and a substation about a block away from  
me... and my antenna is parallel to it. And I connected the VX-7R to  
the same antenna and it gets similar kinds of noise, and no signals  
on 40m either. Also, I'm on the 2nd floor of an apartment, and an  
outside antenna isn't going to be feasible here. I didn't try  
grounding the K2 to the electrical ground yet... I certainly can't  
install my own ground rod, either! I was running the K2 from 12 volts  
worth of D batteries, to minimize power supply noise. And I turned  
off all the fluorescent lights, which dropped the noise considerably,  
but didn't reveal anything underneath the noise.


So... does this sound appropriate given the current situation? Should  
I be hearing more than this? Am I not understanding how the K2 works?  
Am I missing something very basic about ham radio? Am I doing  
something silly? :-)


Should I try a better/different antenna? I now have about 150ft of  
12ga stranded wire that I can use for a second test  antenna; if I  
run it perpendicular to the high voltage line I think I can go 40ft  
in a mostly straight line, and probably 50ft with one right-angle  
bend in it. I can't get to 67ft without some major contortions; my  
apartment just isn't that big! I have the internal antenna tuner for  
my K2 but of course I haven't put it together yet!


Or could there be something wrong with my partly-assembled K2?

To date, I've heard almost nothing on *any* HF band... once or twice  
I've been able to hear faint strains of music on the VX-7R, when  
using the pre-programmed "Shortwave Broacast" built-in memory. And I  
have another little transistor radio that has shortwave bands on  
it... and I've never heard anything on that either. Could I somehow  
be in a location where I can't receive much of anything? (I do hear  
stuff on VHF bands with the VX-7R.)


Suggestions/recommendations welcome!

Thanks,

Sarah AF6FH




On Nov 23, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Sarah K. wrote: [quoted bit corrected  
for typos!]

Hi,

I'm Sarah, AF6FH! I just got my license a couple weeks ago, and I'm
now assembling K2# 06322, which will be my first HF radio. 

[Elecraft] Quick Feedback on K3 so far

2007-12-02 Thread Simon Lewis

Well #114 far exceeds my expectations.

My main use is for VHF/UHF as an IF driver for microwaves.

Yesterday it got connected to my Mutek 144 MHz tvtr which drives my dual
band 10g/24g tvtrs

I am really impressed with the audio quality, my ham friend who came to have
a look had his jaw on the floor and simply said "wow!" 

Really superb audio!  Even at 100 Hz - no ringing - clean crisp audio with a
lovely "feel" to it - not harsh like my pro 2. 

Filtering is excellent and monitoring some of the beacons yesterday revealed
how useful this baby will be - most people think that you can drive
microwave tvtrs with an FT290 and it will work as good as a top line radio -
which is nonsense - I need end to end performance and the K3 allows me to
dig into weak signals unlike a normal VHF multimode like a 290 never could

Low noise receiver is excellent and with my heil this sounds super - really
pleased.

No major issues during built - all smoothly put together - 1 evening and 1
mornings work. (I had a head start having built a number of K2s)

So ... Impressed and waiting for this to develop further 

Some great features and with the 2nd rx this will really add to my station
capabilty

Well done Elecraft - another impressed customer!

:-)

73 Simon DL4PLM

And here is the final #114 finished and working on 10g/24g!

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