Re: [Elecraft] Monitor Level Preference
Brett -I prefer CW monitoring exactly as it is on the K3. It is so easy to alter the level with the MON control and it can be done very quickly. In a recent message, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... Just out of curosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft antennas in trees
Another warning! A few years ago I used a catapult and a drilled golf ball with some braided nylon line over an oak tree. When it became stuck in a branch, I wound the line round a piece of wood and gave it my full weight to release it. The end result? I literally shot myself in the foot, breaking several small bones and was on crutches for 4 weeks. The braided line probably had a breaking strain of at least 300lb so I had devised a pretty effective self-destruction machine. I'm just glad it didn't hit me a few feet higher! The funniest part was trying to explain to the guy in the Accident Emergency Department how I broke my foot with a golf ball and then listening to his sniggers as he told the story to his colleagues. These days I use a lead fishing weight with some fluorescent mono-filament fishing line. I can get it to 60 feet plus, but if it gets stuck, I pull back very, very slowly to prevent it winding around a branch. Be careful! Tom G3OLB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
Jon Kåre Hellan wrote: It's http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.html - with an 'l' at the end. That's better. Note that anyone thinking of using this in England might be advised to consult with the local police as it might be interpreted as being an air rifle, in which case the muzzle energy is more than three times the limit above which a firearms certificate would be needed. (The limit is 12 foot pounds, but the potential energy at the top of the arc is 150 * 0.25, i.e. 37.5 foot pounds, and tennis balls will have high enough drag that the launch energy will be significantly higher.) The situation in England seems to depend on the words lethal and weapon. It appears that the rules in South Africa are simpler, and it looks like it would definitely be classified as a firearm there. The muzzle energy limit is also lower. The only air weapon exemptions appear to be for calibres less than .22, and I haven't seen many .21 inch 4oz tennis balls. The definition doesn't depend on ability to cause harm or the use of the word weapon. It looks like it would also be a firearm in Canada, with an even lower muzzle energy limit. The uncertainty there is whether or not it could cause serious injury. Batton rounds, with less than 4 times the muzzle energy have killed people, e.g. recently during a firearms training exercise in the UK. -- David Woolley The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio List Guidelines http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Monitor Level Preference
I agree that the AF Gain and Monitor should be as they are, individually controlled. In a recent issue of either QST or National Contest Journal there was an article discussing the effect of contesting on your hearing. One suggestion to minimize ear fatigue was to have your monitor level as low as possible. Why, well you are typically sending 50% of the time and during that time you ears get a break. I have been following this suggestion since then and, at least for me, it has been helpful. I need the volume up higher to pick signals out with heavy QRM and perhaps pile-ups, but when I am sending I keep it at a level that I can just hear it. 73, Bruce (N1LN) K3 # 1062 K3 # 1193 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. Why would anyone want a fixed sidetone level? Changing from speaker to headphones requires readjustment of the sidetone level. When the xyl turns on the washing machine, I have to turn up the AF gain then the sidetone is buried in noise so I have to crank it up. Many of us with Omni VI's performed a simple mod that allowed sidetone to track with the AF gain. Kenwood got it right with tracking sidetone. I think most Icoms do too. Yaesu was really bad. On the MP you had to reach behind the rig and find a little knob to change sidetone level!! So if there were some way to merge sidetone into AF gain, I would love it...73 Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:53 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions Just out of curiosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. Or is the way the K1 does things more preferred. The STL menu entry allows one to set the side tone monitor as an offset from the RX level. So you set the monitor level and it gets louder or quieter as you adjust the AF Gain. My personal preference is the K1 method. I like this because if my wife is sleeping then I like to turn down the volume (if not go all the way and use headphones). I like to have the sidetone go down as well rather than make a separate adjustment. I'm not asking for any changes. Just curious to hear the thoughts of others on this topic. ~Brett (KC7OTG) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
In a recent message, n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. ... Many of us with Omni VI's performed a simple mod that allowed sidetone to track with the AF gain. Yes, Steve, but on here we're talking about the Elecraft K3 on which the sidetone level is a simple matter of just pushing and turning a knob. Do try a K3 sometime and you will find how simple it is. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
n4lq wrote: CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. IMO absolutely not. Sidetone level should have a separate level adjust. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
This is Alan's site (as is the previous posting). I whole heartedly recommend the CSV-19. It is simple to use and effective, particularly if you have tall trees. I've tried most of the other suggested methods, and while most will work to some degree or another, they usually take multiple tries and are height limited. While this device is not cheap, if you do a lot of antenna work in your trees, this is a real time saver. Well worth the price... It's also my most borrowed piece of equipment ;o) http://www.antennalaunchers.com/antlaunching.html 73 CU in NAQP CW this weekend! Jules Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #3311 Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Turning the Control To The Right
In my very limited experience in building and operating radios (50 Years) I always assumed that turning a control to the right increased something (Volume, Frequency, RF Gain, ECT.) When operating the filter width control on the K3, I assumed that the filter (DSP in this case) would increase it's band width, which it does. Increasing the Shift control clockwise moves the selected bandwidth you previously selected with the Width control to a higher center frequency which also seems logical to me. I cannot understand what all the confusion is all about. 73 Dave KD1NA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Eterlogic VSPE 0.78
Bill W4ZV wrote: I hesitate to interrupt the flow of OT trivia but here's something that's actually useful: http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html This small free program allows you to create multiple connections to one serial port used by your K3. For example, my old P3 computer has one true RS-232 port on COM1 which I use for my K3. When attempting to run a second program simultaneously, it's locked out of COM1 by the first program connected. Using VSPE, I can assign COM1 to a virtual COM3, and then reset all programs to use COM3 instead of COM1. Using this I can now run the K3Utility, HRD and N1MM all simultaneously connected without any apparent conflicts. Please do not contact me about setup questions. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-K3%7D-Eterlogic-VSPE-0.78-tp585342p586450.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Eterlogic VSPE 0.78
Thank you very nice software 73 Serge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-K3%7D-Eterlogic-VSPE-0.78-tp585342p586452.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
David I do have the K3 and know how to adjust the sidetone. I just prefer having the AF gain and sidetone track to one control. Also, I like to be able to adjust the sidetone level while sending CW which you can't do on the K3. When you push the mon button you get a constant sidetone. You cannot hear the other guy sending no can you send cw yourself while doing this. This is very weird and I have never seen a rig act like this. It's not a deal breaker but it sure seems crude. Rigs such as the IC-756PRO have a little sidetone level knob that allows you to simply increase or decrease the sidetone level while sending or receiving with no interruptions. That's how it should be. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions In a recent message, n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are about the same level. ... Many of us with Omni VI's performed a simple mod that allowed sidetone to track with the AF gain. Yes, Steve, but on here we're talking about the Elecraft K3 on which the sidetone level is a simple matter of just pushing and turning a knob. Do try a K3 sometime and you will find how simple it is. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference audio level. Mine is set at 25. What I would like is the option to adjust the PITCH without hearing the sidetone. In other words, listening to a weak signal I want to adjust it's pitch (offset) for best copy. Different signal conditions can warrant the use of different pitches for optimum copy. But you can't do this with the sidetone overriding the received audio. Even if you set the sideone level to zero the received audio is blocked whenever PITCH is on. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:53:14 -0700, Brett (KC7OTG) wrote: ?Just out of curiosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. Or is the way the K1 does things more preferred. The STL menu entry allows one to set the side tone monitor as an offset from the RX level. So you set the monitor level and it gets louder or quieter as you adjust the AF Gain. My personal preference is the K1 method. I like this because if my wife is sleeping then I like to turn down the volume (if not go all the way and use headphones). I like to have the sidetone go down as well rather than make a separate adjustment. I'm not asking for any changes. Just curious to hear the thoughts of others on this topic. ~Brett (KC7OTG) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Again I agree. Changing the sidetone level or pitch requires us to listen to the constant tone which covers up everything. I think the intent was good but a bit impractical. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference audio level. Mine is set at 25. What I would like is the option to adjust the PITCH without hearing the sidetone. In other words, listening to a weak signal I want to adjust it's pitch (offset) for best copy. Different signal conditions can warrant the use of different pitches for optimum copy. But you can't do this with the sidetone overriding the received audio. Even if you set the sideone level to zero the received audio is blocked whenever PITCH is on. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:53:14 -0700, Brett (KC7OTG) wrote: ?Just out of curiosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. Or is the way the K1 does things more preferred. The STL menu entry allows one to set the side tone monitor as an offset from the RX level. So you set the monitor level and it gets louder or quieter as you adjust the AF Gain. My personal preference is the K1 method. I like this because if my wife is sleeping then I like to turn down the volume (if not go all the way and use headphones). I like to have the sidetone go down as well rather than make a separate adjustment. I'm not asking for any changes. Just curious to hear the thoughts of others on this topic. ~Brett (KC7OTG) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator. I would like to have the sidetone track volume, while still being able to adjust the mix ratio, preferably while working CW. After FD this year one fellow asked me an excellent question: What don't you like about the K3? I had been answering K3 questions all weekend, but I wasn't prepared for that one. The single gripe I could come up with was the sidetone volume adjustment. As Steve says, it's not a deal breaker. We both own K3's. 73, john WA1ABI I do have the K3 and know how to adjust the sidetone. I just prefer having the AF gain and sidetone track to one control. Also, I like to be able to adjust the sidetone level while sending CW which you can't do on the K3. When you push the mon button you get a constant sidetone. You cannot hear the other guy sending no can you send cw yourself while doing this. This is very weird and I have never seen a rig act like this. It's not a deal breaker Steve Ellington ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I too am a CW operator but I greatly prefer the sidetone NOT track with the AF gain control. I want them separate so that I can adjust the mix on the fly. Rather than trying to adjust sidetone volume, I set it and leave it alone. If I want more sidetone, I turn the AF gain down which is simple rather than trying to turn the sidetone up. - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John King Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator. I would like to have the sidetone track volume, while still being able to adjust the mix ratio, preferably while working CW. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
Joe - You're confusing the band pass filtering (allow 20 meter band into the radio) with roofing / IF filters (allow this narrow slice of spectrum into the radio). On 7/28/08, Joe Word [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default to OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to remember to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually transmit during the booting of the attached computer and again when the logging program starts on next turn-on of the rig. 73, Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
Joe asked: What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter? --- It's not, Joe. The KBPF3 provides additional receiver input bandpass filters. The input bandpass filters are L/C filters that are switched automatically according to the frequency band selected to protect the receiver from strong out-of-band signals hundreds of kilohertz or even a few megahertz away from the desired signal. The first I.F. roofing filters follow later in the signal path to provide selectivity within a few kHz or a few hundred Hz of the desired signal. The basic K3 is equipped with input filters covering the 160-6 meter Ham bands. These filters also allow reception near the Ham bands but, as you tune farther from a Ham band, the sensitivity will drop off as you move beyond the edge of the filter bandpass. This is most apparent when trying to listen to AM broadcast band stations below 1,000 kHz without the KBPF3, but a significant loss of sensitivity occurs whenever the basic K3 is tuned far from a Ham band. The KBPF3 provides additional input filters that are switched in automatically to cover the out-of-Ham-band frequencies between 500 kHz and 30 MHz. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
At 10:30 AM 07/28/08, Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote: At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. I was not really paying attention to this thread until I watched a documentary of some hillbilly musicans in the Ozarks...and realized that some of them were holding stringed instruments the wrong way. Much like the debates over which end of an egg to crack, the pictures reminded me that there are numerous paths in front of us. One old man in the film, between target practice shots into a cuspidor, commented that some fella from down in one of the cities told him he was holding the guitar the wrong way, and that he told the outsider If you think it's that bad, you ought not be a listen'n' I wonder if folks south of the equator, where the toilet whirlpool is backwards to north of the line find the width control counter-intuitive. 73, Thom k3hrn No confusion here, privies don't flush ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT - my email is down
Sorry for the off-topic post, but my W3FPR email account has been down and will be that way until my ISP gets it fixed - they prommise sometime in the next 20 hours! But PROMISES, PROMISES I am not currently getting any reflector messages as a result. If anyone sent an email direct to me yesterday or today, please resend it to me at donwilh AT embarqmail.com (that account is working). This is only a temporary solution. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Before you put your waking shoes on, consider that just maybe I'm the weird one LOL! By turning down the AF gain, I'm increasing the sidetone-to-band-noise ratio, making the sidetone easier to hear. This assumes the sidetone is loud enough but is being masked by the loud band noise since the AF gain is way up to copy that weak signal. Enjoy your walk. I'm jealous. I have to stay at my desk and keep working ... :-) - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -Original Message- From: n4lq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions If I want more sidetone, I turn the AF gain down which is simple rather than trying to turn the sidetone up. Obviously I missed something in life. Turning down the AF gain to get more sidetone? Ok..I'm going to take a walk and get some fresh air. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO. I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level when I start sending, as would be the case if sidetone level tracked the AF gain. I don't want to have to adjust the AF gain control between sending and receiving under those circumstances to control the sidetone level. Bob NW8L On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. Or is the way the K1 does things more preferred. The STL menu entry allows one to set the side tone monitor as an offset from the RX level. So you set the monitor level and it gets louder or quieter as you adjust the AF Gain. My personal preference is the K1 method. I like this because if my wife is sleeping then I like to turn down the volume (if not go all the way and use headphones). I like to have the sidetone go down as well rather than make a separate adjustment. I'm not asking for any changes. Just curious to hear the thoughts of others on this topic. ~Brett (KC7OTG) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
Are you running the latest firmware? I found that in the 2.20 that I'm running Wayne has added a bit of code that prevents the rig from TXing immediately upon power up. You get an ERR PTT upon power up. Then when you remove the PTT source you get an ERR KEY for a short bit then things go back to normal. On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:30 -0300, Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote: I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default to OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to remember to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually transmit during the booting of the attached computer and again when the logging program starts on next turn-on of the rig. 73, Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Good point and there's probably no one answer to this therefore it should be made configurable. At least, the constant tone feature for level and pitch should be optional. Basically, if I could just reach for a knob and turn it when I want to change sidetone level during a QSO, I would be happy. Oh..heck...I'm already happy but this gives us something to discuss. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bob Cunnings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO. I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level when I start sending, as would be the case if sidetone level tracked the AF gain. I don't want to have to adjust the AF gain control between sending and receiving under those circumstances to control the sidetone level. Bob NW8L On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. Or is the way the K1 does things more preferred. The STL menu entry allows one to set the side tone monitor as an offset from the RX level. So you set the monitor level and it gets louder or quieter as you adjust the AF Gain. My personal preference is the K1 method. I like this because if my wife is sleeping then I like to turn down the volume (if not go all the way and use headphones). I like to have the sidetone go down as well rather than make a separate adjustment. I'm not asking for any changes. Just curious to hear the thoughts of others on this topic. ~Brett (KC7OTG) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, Bob Cunnings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, After reading all the posts to date on this topic, I have decided what my opinion is: Go ahead and change it, but if you do, please add another feature that allows myself and others who would surely not like it at all, to turn the feature off. I'm a 63 year old, 46 year CW operator and CW SWL buff, military trained. 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
After reading posts here I'm not 100% sure what my opinion is... I'm pretty happy either way... I was mostly curious to hear what the peanut gallery thought. Seems this is another one that everyone is different on... Thankfully its also another one that is easy to deal with if its not the way you prefer. ~Brett (KC7OTG) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Childers, N5GE Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:09 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, Bob Cunnings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, After reading all the posts to date on this topic, I have decided what my opinion is: Go ahead and change it, but if you do, please add another feature that allows myself and others who would surely not like it at all, to turn the feature off. I'm a 63 year old, 46 year CW operator and CW SWL buff, military trained. 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, Bob Cunnings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO. I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level when I start sending, as would be the case if sidetone level tracked the AF gain. I don't want to have to adjust the AF gain control between sending and receiving under those circumstances to control the sidetone level. Bob NW8L Sorry Bob for deleting you response in my first reply. Your explanation is spot on. Folks, After reading all the posts to date on this topic, I have decided what my opinion is: Go ahead and change it, but if you do, please add another feature that allows myself and others who would surely not like it at all, to turn the feature off. I'm a 63 year old, 46 year CW operator and CW SWL buff, military trained. 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] TX Bug found in 2.16
Just wanted to post this but I had 2.16 installed for a bit and found that while in SSB I would often loose audio while transmitting. I had to switch back into RX then into TX to get audio to work again. This could be either in or out of TX test mode. I then downgraded to current production release of 2.02 and the bug went away. I then installed Beta 2.20 and it looks like it has been fixed. So if you are running 2.16 now, you may want to upgrade or downgrade. 73 de Lee WW2DX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
A strange heading for a debate about which way to turn a knob HI! For reasons I don't understand, it's my instinct to turn the width knob clockwise to narrow the filter. Perhaps as I want more narrowing my instinct tells me that clockwise = more, but then that argument collapses when I want more width! Every time I go in the wrong direction results in a chuckle and the mistake is corrected. I don't wish for a change in the knob's function because, given time and practice, my instinct should learn to go in the other direction, and that will be fine by me. Indeed, I'm content to learn how to with this beautiful radio; I had to learn how to with every previous rig I've owned and so it shall be with the K3. 73 all. Dave G3TJP K2/100 #5551 K3/100 #1122 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. Agreed. I think it has to do witht he fact that the Filter display moves to the right as it gets narrower and the WIDTH knob moves (turns) to the right as it gets narrower. That was the main problem that operators had on my K3 at Field Day. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote: I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. I remember when radios had Selectivity controls, and you turned them to the right which increased selectivity (i.e., decreased bandwidth). The K3 has a control which is labeled Width and so it's reasonable to turn it to the right to increase (band)width. But the point I want to make is that if this is a change for you, you will get used to it. It is not something that will always be a problem. There is a finite amount of work that Wayne and Lyle can do in a finite time. I would much rather have them spend their time on issues that will always be problems (until they are fixed). For example, a number of people have complained that they want to adjust receiver controls while transmitting. This is something that will always be a problem for these people; it won't go away until it's fixed. And that's the kind of thing I'd prefer to see them work on. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Monitor Level Preference
Brett, I agree with you that the possibility could be in the menu. For me, it is not necessary because I listen mostly on headphones. But as you say, using the rig in loud circumstances with people around our K3 's, the K1 way would be very good solution. 73 's Steef PA2A K2 4654 K3 1184 - Original Message - From: Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor Level Preference Just out of curosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things better the way the K3 does things where the monitor level is a fixed output regardless of the AF knob. Or is the way the K1 does things more preferred. The STL menu entry allows one to set the side tone monitor as an offset from the RX level. So you set the monitor level and it gets louder or quieter as you adjust the AF Gain. My personal preference is the K1 method. I like this because if my wife is sleeping then I like to turn down the volume (if not go all the way and use headphones). I like to have the sidetone go down as well rather than make a separate adjustment. I'm not asking for any changes. Just curious to hear the thoughts of others on this topic. ~Brett (KC7OTG) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Allow the PITCH to be changed without having to listen to the tone or with the tone. Allow the sidetone level to be changed without having to listen to it or with the tone.. Allow the sidetone to be independently controlled (and be able to change it while you are transmitting) or AF Gain controlled. Personally I like the PITCH to be adjustable without having to listen to it. And the sidetone adjustable without having to listen to it. And the sidetone level independent of the AF Gain control. And I'd like to be able to record both the TX and RX audio at a fixed level rather than have the level controlled by the AF Gain! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference audio level. Mine is set at 25. What I would like is the option to adjust the PITCH without hearing the sidetone. In other words, listening to a weak signal I want to adjust it's pitch (offset) for best copy. Different signal conditions can warrant the use of different pitches for optimum copy. But you can't do this with the sidetone overriding the received audio. Even if you set the sideone level to zero the received audio is blocked whenever PITCH is on. 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and AM
Hello to the group. I hope everyone is enjoying their K3 as much as I. I got on AM Sunday morning for the first time. All those on the net said that the K3 sounded great. I wonder if anyone else has used their K3 on AM and have any suggestions as to power levels and carrier levels and if anyone has used a linear amplifier on AM with the K3. I've never operated AM and I vaguely remember that the power levels are different on AM than SSB. My amplifier is a Acom 1000. I would be interested in any suggestions. Best 73, Steve W0SZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
The ARRL Antenna Book suggests using a pulley and counter weight to allow for the varying distances between trees caused by wind. At my former QTH, Ellijay GA, I noticed that in very gusty conditions sometimes the support trees moved in opposite directions at the same time. I decided to make my counterweight out of an eight foot length of 5/16 chain. Put about a third of the length of the chain on the ground during no wind conditions. Now as the wind moves the trees more of less of the chain gets lifted off the ground. This gives a gradual increment in the weight of the counterweight. The antenna that I had up was 88' of #18 insulatd wire up 40', center fed with 450 Ohm line. With this antenna I got into ECN on 40 and 20 using the K1 just about every time I tried. (Kevin, wish I could find a place for this type of antenna where I now live.) I was concerned about the sudden change of weight caused by a solid one piece weight hitting the ground or lifted off the ground. With one third of the chain on the ground the weight does not swing in the breeze. 73, Ty, W1TF, K1 #1423, K3 #696 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
- Original Message - From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gary Bartlett VE1RGB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? (Snip) But the point I want to make is that if this is a change for you, you will get used to it. It is not something that will always be a problem. There is a finite amount of work that Wayne and Lyle can do in a finite time. I would much rather have them spend their time on issues that will always be problems (until they are fixed) (snip). Hi, Vic: Just to be clear, my observation was neither a complaint nor a request for a change. I've already grown used to the way the radio works in respect to adjusting filter width. I was more interested in speculating (out loud) as to why many of us are so instintively inclined to want to turn the control in a direction that, on this radio, is the wrong way. What in our individual backgrounds has conditioned some of our brains to want us to take a knob and turn it in the up/louder/bigger direction expecting a small/narrower result? Now back to watching the Simpsons. Gary, VE1RGB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
My G5RV is up in the oak trees here and is attached using springs at each end. They are about 12 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. Been up for a couple of years with no problems. Brian N1WNC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and AM
Steve, On AM, your carrier power should be about 25% of the peak transmitter power. For a K3, which runs 120W output, this means that the carrier output should be about 30W. I believe the K3 automatically sets the correct carrier-to-peak power ratio, so that when you scale back the K3's power output, the AM carrier is reduced proportionately. When running a linear amplifer on AM, the same percentage applies. In other words, for a legal limit linear amplifier whose power output is 1500 Watts, your carrier power should be 375W. Then, your modulation peaks will be the full 1500W. When tuning your linear amplifier for AM, DO NOT load it with the AM carrier of 375W. Instead, always load it in the CW mode at the full 1500W output. Then when you run it on AM, the amplifier will be tuned properly for 375W of carrier. Just to remind you where the 25% AM carrier rule comes from, in a 100% modulated AM signal, the RF envelope varies from zero to twice the carrier average voltage. In other words, the modulation peaks will be twice the voltage of the unmodulated carrier. Since power varies as the square of the voltage, twice the voltage is four times the power. Thus, your transmitter and amplifier has to be rated at four times the unmodulated carrier value. 73, Jim W8ZR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W0SZ Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and AM Hello to the group. I hope everyone is enjoying their K3 as much as I. I got on AM Sunday morning for the first time. All those on the net said that the K3 sounded great. I wonder if anyone else has used their K3 on AM and have any suggestions as to power levels and carrier levels and if anyone has used a linear amplifier on AM with the K3. I've never operated AM and I vaguely remember that the power levels are different on AM than SSB. My amplifier is a Acom 1000. I would be interested in any suggestions. Best 73, Steve W0SZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain Ron D'Eau Claire wrote on 07/28/08 07:35: Joe asked: What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter? --- It's not, Joe. The KBPF3 provides additional receiver input bandpass filters. The input bandpass filters are L/C filters that are switched automatically according to the frequency band selected to protect the receiver from strong out-of-band signals hundreds of kilohertz or even a few megahertz away from the desired signal. The first I.F. roofing filters follow later in the signal path to provide selectivity within a few kHz or a few hundred Hz of the desired signal. The basic K3 is equipped with input filters covering the 160-6 meter Ham bands. These filters also allow reception near the Ham bands but, as you tune farther from a Ham band, the sensitivity will drop off as you move beyond the edge of the filter bandpass. This is most apparent when trying to listen to AM broadcast band stations below 1,000 kHz without the KBPF3, but a significant loss of sensitivity occurs whenever the basic K3 is tuned far from a Ham band. The KBPF3 provides additional input filters that are switched in automatically to cover the out-of-Ham-band frequencies between 500 kHz and 30 MHz. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
I use a reel with 6 lb line and a wrist rocket from Walmart with a lead fishing weight. Lay the reel on the ground and shoot the weight over the top of the tree. I try to avoid large limbs. You want the line over the soft bushy limbs. They act as a spring or shock absorber. Use the line to pull up some nylon twine then use the twine to pull up your rope. The wind can blow all it wants and those soft limbs act like a nice cushion. I've even been know to run insulated antenna wire right through a tree with no ill effects on the HF bands. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ralph Tyrrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees The ARRL Antenna Book suggests using a pulley and counter weight to allow for the varying distances between trees caused by wind. At my former QTH, Ellijay GA, I noticed that in very gusty conditions sometimes the support trees moved in opposite directions at the same time. I decided to make my counterweight out of an eight foot length of 5/16 chain. Put about a third of the length of the chain on the ground during no wind conditions. Now as the wind moves the trees more of less of the chain gets lifted off the ground. This gives a gradual increment in the weight of the counterweight. The antenna that I had up was 88' of #18 insulatd wire up 40', center fed with 450 Ohm line. With this antenna I got into ECN on 40 and 20 using the K1 just about every time I tried. (Kevin, wish I could find a place for this type of antenna where I now live.) I was concerned about the sudden change of weight caused by a solid one piece weight hitting the ground or lifted off the ground. With one third of the chain on the ground the weight does not swing in the breeze. 73, Ty, W1TF, K1 #1423, K3 #696 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Antenna Launching
Best and easiest way to shoot antenna is here: I've also seen potatoes and golf balls used successfully. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and AM
One important note - Like most ham rigs, the K3 is officially specified at 100W. While the control turns up to 120W, and most rigs will go above above 100w, they will not make that power level on all units on all bands. Above 100W it is not guaranteed to meet all specifications. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Dr. James C. Garland wrote: Steve, On AM, your carrier power should be about 25% of the peak transmitter power. For a K3, which runs 120W output, this means that the carrier output should be about 30W. I believe the K3 automatically sets the correct carrier-to-peak power ratio, so that when you scale back the K3's power output, the AM carrier is reduced proportionately. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees; Ant Launching [end of thread]
With close to 40 posts in the last couple of days on these topics, we've saturated this area. Let's let it rest for now. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
Ian Besides casual listening around the HF bands, it turns the K3 into another piece of test equipment in the shack. The K3 calibration is pretty darn good, so you can measure the frequency of a signal and be very close to its absolute frequency. Or just listen to an oscillator that operates outside the ham bands, such as those in a homebrew RX or TX. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Joe Word' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain Ron D'Eau Claire wrote on 07/28/08 07:35: Joe asked: What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter? --- It's not, Joe. The KBPF3 provides additional receiver input bandpass filters. The input bandpass filters are L/C filters that are switched automatically according to the frequency band selected to protect the receiver from strong out-of-band signals hundreds of kilohertz or even a few megahertz away from the desired signal. The first I.F. roofing filters follow later in the signal path to provide selectivity within a few kHz or a few hundred Hz of the desired signal. The basic K3 is equipped with input filters covering the 160-6 meter Ham bands. These filters also allow reception near the Ham bands but, as you tune farther from a Ham band, the sensitivity will drop off as you move beyond the edge of the filter bandpass. This is most apparent when trying to listen to AM broadcast band stations below 1,000 kHz without the KBPF3, but a significant loss of sensitivity occurs whenever the basic K3 is tuned far from a Ham band. The KBPF3 provides additional input filters that are switched in automatically to cover the out-of-Ham-band frequencies between 500 kHz and 30 MHz. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little concern. We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence. We give *real* signal reports based on what we hear, not on what an S-Meter tells us. There's a reason why a great many radiomen have preferred to operate that way over the years. For many of us, it's the easiest, fastest, and surest way to hear signals at their best. Frequently it's easier to do the simple stuff ourselves instead of expecting a box of parts and a gazillion lines of code to do it for us... Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Dear Ron, Hear ! Hear ! You have said it so very well. My kudos ! TR, WB6TMY At 11:03 AM 7/28/2008 -0700, you wrote: Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little concern. We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence. We give *real* signal reports based on what we hear, not on what an S-Meter tells us. There's a reason why a great many radiomen have preferred to operate that way over the years. For many of us, it's the easiest, fastest, and surest way to hear signals at their best. Frequently it's easier to do the simple stuff ourselves instead of expecting a box of parts and a gazillion lines of code to do it for us... Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Tel: . . . 707-832-4304 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I've been very happy with the AGC-NR on the K3, so turning off AGC is starting to become a last resort for me. And the configurable AGC parameters give you a lot of options, not one AGC fits all. (I do adjust the RF gain even with AGC on.) I also give signal reports corresponding to the s-meter reading. This is convenient with the K3's absolute meter mode (doesn't matter whether attenuator or preamp is on). It's just for my own interest, comparing signal strengths at the antenna terminals. Can't see why I wouldn't want to record them as long as I'm going to the trouble of making RST notations anyway. 73, Drew AF2Z On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:03:27 -0700, Ron AC7AC wrote: Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little concern. We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence. We give *real* signal reports based on what we hear, not on what an S-Meter tells us. There's a reason why a great many radiomen have preferred to operate that way over the years. For many of us, it's the easiest, fastest, and surest way to hear signals at their best. Frequently it's easier to do the simple stuff ourselves instead of expecting a box of parts and a gazillion lines of code to do it for us... Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would otherwise have cost me to purchase a second-hand Drake R8B or JRC NRD-545! Now if only we could get the synchronous AM detection upgrade, I'd be happier than a pig in poop. (Nudge, nudge...) Mark I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Using both AGC and RF gain?
Ron's comments in another thread got me thinking. How many of us use AGC only (RF Gain on full), RF Gain only (AGC off) or a combination? Does it matter if you're running SSB or CW (or other)? I run CW and use a combination of AGC and RF Gain. AGC set to fast with the RF gain turned down to bring the band noise down to a bit above the rig's noise floor. S/N ratio is great like this and if a truly big signal hits me, I have the AGC there to act as a limiter to keep my ears from taking a hit. I also love to watch the S-meter move so leaving AGC on keeps the fun alive. What do you do? - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Using both AGC and RF gain?
I'd have to say my modes of operation is very similar to yours. I turn the RF Gain down to help with the noise but then also use the AGC to protect the ears. Lately I've been going with a somewhat high AGC threshold with a pretty flat top to it. So I minimize its action but when it gets hit things are pretty flat up there. I do like to watch the S-Meter move although I'm somewhat ashamed to say so... It sounds dumb but I dig it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darwin, Keith Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:45 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Using both AGC and RF gain? Ron's comments in another thread got me thinking. How many of us use AGC only (RF Gain on full), RF Gain only (AGC off) or a combination? Does it matter if you're running SSB or CW (or other)? I run CW and use a combination of AGC and RF Gain. AGC set to fast with the RF gain turned down to bring the band noise down to a bit above the rig's noise floor. S/N ratio is great like this and if a truly big signal hits me, I have the AGC there to act as a limiter to keep my ears from taking a hit. I also love to watch the S-meter move so leaving AGC on keeps the fun alive. What do you do? - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:03:27 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal. Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little concern. We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence. We give *real* signal reports based on what we hear, not on what an S-Meter tells us. There's a reason why a great many radiomen have preferred to operate that way over the years. For many of us, it's the easiest, fastest, and surest way to hear signals at their best. Frequently it's easier to do the simple stuff ourselves instead of expecting a box of parts and a gazillion lines of code to do it for us... Ron AC7AC Exactly. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
Hi Mark, Can you be more specific? What function of the Drake or JRC could you not replace without the general coverage receiver option ? ~Iain Mark Volstad wrote on 07/28/08 11:38: In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would otherwise have cost me to purchase a second-hand Drake R8B or JRC NRD-545! Now if only we could get the synchronous AM detection upgrade, I'd be happier than a pig in poop. (Nudge, nudge...) Mark I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
The K3 has greatly reduced sensitivity outside of the Amateur bands. The bandpass filters are designed to be just slightly wider than the amateur bands so as to reduce interference caused by broadcast stations outside of them. Well if it's the broadcast stations that you want to listen to these amateur only band pass filters give you poor reception of the broadcast bands. The general coverage receive option gives you a path around the amateur only band pass filters and provides wider filters for when you want to listen outside the ham bands. Granted the K3 has the ability to receive between the bands with out the module but the receiver is not being used to its full abilities unless you install the general coverage receive option. ~Brett -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:57 AM To: Mark Volstad Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter Hi Mark, Can you be more specific? What function of the Drake or JRC could you not replace without the general coverage receiver option ? ~Iain Mark Volstad wrote on 07/28/08 11:38: In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would otherwise have cost me to purchase a second-hand Drake R8B or JRC NRD-545! Now if only we could get the synchronous AM detection upgrade, I'd be happier than a pig in poop. (Nudge, nudge...) Mark I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
Beautifully put Dave. I agree! 73, Deni F5VJC DaveL G3TJP wrote: I don't wish for a change in the knob's function because, given time and practice, my instinct should learn to go in the other direction, and that will be fine by me. Indeed, I'm content to learn how to with this beautiful radio; I had to learn how to with every previous rig I've owned and so it shall be with the K3. 73 all. Dave G3TJP K2/100 #5551 K3/100 #1122 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/ON4UN-has-a-K3--tp586961p587273.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
The Drake and JRC models I mentioned are not amateur transceivers; they are highly-regarded shortwave receivers. Like many others, I became a ham only after developing a strong interest in shortwave and AM broadcast band DXing during my teens. You know -- all those frequencies between 0.5 KHz and 30 MHz that are outside the amateur bands. ;-) Adding the GC option to the K3 has allowed me to once again fully enjoy that hobby after these many years. If you'd like to learn more, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave_listening Mark - Original Message - From: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 28, 2008 14:57 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter To: Mark Volstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Hi Mark, Can you be more specific? What function of the Drake or JRC could you not replace without the general coverage receiver option ? ~Iain Mark Volstad wrote on 07/28/08 11:38: In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would otherwise have cost me to purchase a second-hand Drake R8B or JRC NRD-545! Now if only we could get the synchronous AM detection upgrade, I'd be happier than a pig in poop. (Nudge, nudge...) Mark I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
Mark when you do this are you using the RX ANT jack or are you using the standard input? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Volstad Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:07 PM To: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter The Drake and JRC models I mentioned are not amateur transceivers; they are highly-regarded shortwave receivers. Like many others, I became a ham only after developing a strong interest in shortwave and AM broadcast band DXing during my teens. You know -- all those frequencies between 0.5 KHz and 30 MHz that are outside the amateur bands. ;-) Adding the GC option to the K3 has allowed me to once again fully enjoy that hobby after these many years. If you'd like to learn more, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave_listening Mark - Original Message - From: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 28, 2008 14:57 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter To: Mark Volstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Hi Mark, Can you be more specific? What function of the Drake or JRC could you not replace without the general coverage receiver option ? ~Iain Mark Volstad wrote on 07/28/08 11:38: In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would otherwise have cost me to purchase a second-hand Drake R8B or JRC NRD-545! Now if only we could get the synchronous AM detection upgrade, I'd be happier than a pig in poop. (Nudge, nudge...) Mark I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what makes it worth the extra $129 ?? ~Iain ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter
I've been using the RX ANT jack on the AM broadcast band (makes a big difference below 1 MHz), and the standard antenna input on the higher freqs, where I don't believe there is any measurable advantage to using RX ANT. Mark - Original Message - From: Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 28, 2008 16:46 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter To: 'Mark Volstad' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Mark when you do this are you using the RX ANT jack or are you using the standard input? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Volstad Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:07 PM To: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: General Coverage Receive Filter The Drake and JRC models I mentioned are not amateur transceivers; they are highly-regarded shortwave receivers. Like many others, I became a ham only after developing a strong interest in shortwave and AM broadcast band DXing during my teens. You know -- all those frequencies between 0.5 KHz and 30 MHz that are outside the amateur bands. ;-) Adding the GC option to the K3 has allowed me to once again fully enjoy that hobby after these many years. If you'd like to learn more, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave_listening Mark ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
I had those 12 inch springs once at a location where I live. Most of the time I just put up a 130 ft dipole and feed it with ladder line and let the good times roll!! G --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 1:41 PM My G5RV is up in the oak trees here and is attached using springs at each end. They are about 12 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. Been up for a couple of years with no problems. Brian N1WNC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM
Good Evening, All I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming correctly that one needs only connect the rig's RS232 port to a serial port on the computer to get full radio control AND CW sending? If not, an RS232 cable from K3 to computer and LPT1 keying interface from computer to rig? Regarding RTTY, can I use a 15 pin video cable with the correct wires connected for FSK using a DXP38 modem? Any hints would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks Steve AA4V K3 #855 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM
Steve, This is correct - it works great - I have run mine at 38400 or 4800 either way with a standard serial cable with db9 and I have the USB interface which configures fine also! 73 de Bill N4ZI --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Stephen Reichlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Stephen Reichlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 5:43 PM Good Evening, All I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming correctly that one needs only connect the rig's RS232 port to a serial port on the computer to get full radio control AND CW sending? If not, an RS232 cable from K3 to computer and LPT1 keying interface from computer to rig? Regarding RTTY, can I use a 15 pin video cable with the correct wires connected for FSK using a DXP38 modem? Any hints would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks Steve AA4V K3 #855 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:43:02 -0400, Stephen Reichlyn wrote: I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming correctly that one needs only connect the rig's RS232 port to a serial port on the computer to get full radio control AND CW sending? For radio control, CW, and PTT, you need a DB9 to DB9 with wires connecting pins 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7. Then go into Config and tell the K3 to look for CW and PTT on 4 and 7 respectively. If you have an unusually severe RF in the shack problem (for example, you're loading a long wire that ends in the shack), you should look at the special serial cable wiring in my RFI tutorial. My serial cable is home made and uses the four twisted pairs in unshielded CAT5 for the connection, with the return conductor of each pair going to ground and the hot conductors of each pair going to 2, 3, 4, and 7, respectively. I also solve the pin 1 problem built into most radios and most computers by connecting those return conductors to the connector shell, not pin 5. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess status quo is OK with me. Just now, I found that in swapping between speaker and phones, I do not feel the need to adjust the sidetone level. While transmitting ... well, it can be disconcerting to start transmitting full QSK and the band noise is so loud you can't hear your sidetone. But as one poster said, you could turn down the AF gain in that case as a quick interim cure. During noisy contests, I like the keep the sidetone level high. A dedicated knob would be nice, but not worth the panel space for just that function. I'm well pleased with the ease of accessing both pitch and sidetone level -- much easier than on the FT-1000 I sold to buy the K3. Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that. Bonus opinion: I like the CCW for less bandwidth of the Width control. Can I have a little more banjo in the monitor? 73--Nick, WA5BDU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM
- Original Message - From: Stephen Reichlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM Good Evening, All I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming correctly that one needs only connect the rig's RS232 port to a serial port on the computer to get full radio control AND CW sending? Yes, but you have to be careful when powering up the K3 that the computer keying line is not key-down, which may happen if you are not running your logging program at the time. It's scary when you turn the radio on and it immediately goes into transmit! I think there is a software change in the works to prevent the K3 from transmitting when you first turn it on if the key line is keyed. Regarding RTTY, can I use a 15 pin video cable with the correct wires connected for FSK using a DXP38 modem? You might get away with doing it that way, but the shielding in a video cable is irrelevant to the ACC connector pinout. I think you would be better off going to Radio Shack and buying a plastic hood and male DB-15 and making your own nicely shielded FSK cable with a piece of RG-174. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Big Bear Lake, CA . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: Coriolis effect and toilets (was: ON4UN has a K3?)
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:45 -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote: I wonder if folks south of the equator, where the toilet whirlpool is backwards to north of the line find the width control counter-intuitive. Contrary to common belief, the direction that a toilet (or a sink, or a bathtub, etc) drains is not dictated by the coriolis effect. For more info: http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control allows you to adjust the overall AF gain, including the sidetone then use the AF gain control on the K3 to adjust for band noise. That's how I avoid having to fiddle with the sidetone level. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nick-WA5BDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess status quo is OK with me. Just now, I found that in swapping between speaker and phones, I do not feel the need to adjust the sidetone level. While transmitting ... well, it can be disconcerting to start transmitting full QSK and the band noise is so loud you can't hear your sidetone. But as one poster said, you could turn down the AF gain in that case as a quick interim cure. During noisy contests, I like the keep the sidetone level high. A dedicated knob would be nice, but not worth the panel space for just that function. I'm well pleased with the ease of accessing both pitch and sidetone level -- much easier than on the FT-1000 I sold to buy the K3. Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that. Bonus opinion: I like the CCW for less bandwidth of the Width control. Can I have a little more banjo in the monitor? 73--Nick, WA5BDU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1578 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 5:13 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 interface with N1MM
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:25:17 -0700, Dave Hachadorian wrote: You might get away with doing it that way, but the shielding in a video cable is irrelevant to the ACC connector pinout. I think you would be better off going to Radio Shack and buying a plastic hood and male DB-15 and making your own nicely shielded FSK cable with a piece of RG-174. Consumer computer and audio cables are notoriously crummy. One of the most common weaknesses is lousy signal return conductors. Often, computer video cables are not coax, just parallel wires! FWIW, coax provides no shielding against magnetic fields, only electric fields. If you want to reject RF and magnetic fields, use TWISTED pairs. If you want to reject power-related voltage between interconnected boxes (often blamed on the old wives' tale of ground loops,) simply bond the chassis of the interconnected boxes together with a SHORT length of heavy copper braid (like the copper braid removed from a short piece of RG8 or RG11 designed for transmitting). See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf and http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:17 -0400, n4lq wrote: Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control Most speakers with built-in electronics have RFI problems! 73, Jim K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using both AGC and RF gain?
I do the same thing although I've slowed the FAST AGC decay. I'm still looking for the optimum Threshold setting and have taken to adjusting it for whatever band condx I find. I run the SLP pretty high and flat. The receiver seems so hot, or my antenna so susceptible to QRN, that I seldom use the PRE. 73, Gary W7TEA K3 1001 Darwin, Keith wrote: Ron's comments in another thread got me thinking. How many of us use AGC only (RF Gain on full), RF Gain only (AGC off) or a combination? Does it matter if you're running SSB or CW (or other)? I run CW and use a combination of AGC and RF Gain. AGC set to fast with the RF gain turned down to bring the band noise down to a bit above the rig's noise floor. S/N ratio is great like this and if a truly big signal hits me, I have the AGC there to act as a limiter to keep my ears from taking a hit. I also love to watch the S-meter move so leaving AGC on keeps the fun alive. What do you do? - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-both-AGC-and-RF-gain--tp587192p587655.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: anyone using Open Office?
I'm curious about Open Office. Is anyone using it? Comments? Please reply directly to me. Thanks, de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: anyone using Open Office?
Hi Doug, I use it fairly regularly. I work at a university and most of my colleagues use ms office on windows, but I use linux as much as possible, including openoffice for linux. On it's own, I think it is more than good enough for anything you are likely to do. The word processor reads and writes ms office files very well, and for normal documents, I have no problem exchanging with other people. I've also used the spreadsheet and presentation programs with little problem in the latest version of oo. I still use powerpoint for presentations at meetings, though I think that is probably not necessary. I'm sure there are some complicated documents where the conversion between ms office and open office is less than perfect, but in general it works very well. And if you don't need microsoft compatibility, I don't really see any reason to spend the extra money for ms office. Note that I haven't used oo on windows much, so I can't vouch for it there, but I think it's pretty much the same as the linux version. Bernie W1AZ On Monday 28 July 2008, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: I'm curious about Open Office. Is anyone using it? Comments? Please reply directly to me. Thanks, de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Looking for Svend OZ7UV
Svend, I have been trying to answer your email about my K2 but it keeps rejecting. Svend Spanget [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you send me a better email address?? Jim WA7HRG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote: Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that. I wasn't suggesting that the ability to adjust sidetone pitch be eliminated. Merely that we have the additional ability to interactively adjust the pitch of the received signal. Yes, both pitches are the same. But as it is now you cannot hear the effect on the signal itself while adjusting PITCH-- the received audio is cut off and the sidetone comes on. This makes it difficult to tell what pitch is optimum for the particular signal and the given reception conditions. IOW, I don't really care what the sidetone pitch is-- one is as good as another. It is the offset pitch of the signal that is important. So why not be able to adjust it for best copy under current conditions? We can adjust the volume of a signal while listening to it; so why not the pitch? Depending on noise, QRM, keying characteristics, speed, etc. you might want to alter the pitch for better copy. I think it would be useful. 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions
How about eliminating the tone when pushing either pitch or mon and only producint the tone when pushing spot? That seems like a good compromise. That way we could change pitch or st level mid-QSO and still have the tone available when we want it. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone Monitor Preference Opinions On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote: Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that. I wasn't suggesting that the ability to adjust sidetone pitch be eliminated. Merely that we have the additional ability to interactively adjust the pitch of the received signal. Yes, both pitches are the same. But as it is now you cannot hear the effect on the signal itself while adjusting PITCH-- the received audio is cut off and the sidetone comes on. This makes it difficult to tell what pitch is optimum for the particular signal and the given reception conditions. IOW, I don't really care what the sidetone pitch is-- one is as good as another. It is the offset pitch of the signal that is important. So why not be able to adjust it for best copy under current conditions? We can adjust the volume of a signal while listening to it; so why not the pitch? Depending on noise, QRM, keying characteristics, speed, etc. you might want to alter the pitch for better copy. I think it would be useful. 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1578 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 5:13 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Side Tone Volume Control
If I turn the AF volume up to hear a weak signal, I don't want the side tone volume to go up and blow me out of the chair. Leave it as it is, please. Bud, K9ZT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: anyone using Open Office?
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:13:57 -0400, Doug KR2Q wrote: I'm curious about Open Office. Is anyone using it? Comments? Please reply directly to me. Thanks, de Doug KR2Q Yes, I use OO for windows, mostly the spreadsheet. The only thing I don't like is that it takes a minute or two for big (2 MB for me) spreadsheets to start up. It will read xls spreadsheets (and also make them if you don't try to do be too clever with your formulas). Also, xls and OO macros are not compatible; you will have to recode them for your existing sheets. But the price is right. I like it. 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?
Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote: I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default to OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to remember to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually transmit during the booting of the attached computer and again when the logging program starts on next turn-on of the rig. 73, Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 [snip] I second the thought re the default VOX state upon turn on. I've fallen into this same trap (and then crawled under my desk upon realizing what might have gone over the air). If it wouldn't take too much re-coding, I think such a change would be worthwhile. -- 73, Dick ka1oz Middleborough, MA K3/100(Kit) SN 859 Titan-DX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Bandwidth Control Direction (was ON4UN has a K3?)
Gary and all, I'm in the same boat! But I think it's simply the fact that on most other radios a clockwise turn increases selectivity--makes the filter narrower. The way the K3 does it makes sense when you think about it, but nonetheless, it is contrary to what we have been used to doing with other radios. To that end I guess Wayne set this control up in a way that is counterintuitive, but only if you have been trained (as apparently many of us have) to think the other way. I guess I'll adapt (eventually), but it's a bit surprising how difficult it has been to get there. The older I get, the harder it seems to be to reprogram my brain! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Gary Bartlett VE1RGB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default to OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to remember to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually transmit during the booting of the attached computer and again when the logging program starts on next turn-on of the rig. 73, Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 External 2nd receiver with KXV3 and 6m pre-amp?
I've just ordered a KXV3 and was pleasantly surprised to find they are more or less a stock item. In order to use one with an external receiver simultaneously with the K3 main receiver, it appears necessary to use an external resistive splitter or better still a hybrid coupler feeding one side back into the K3 and the other to the external receiver. I wonder if anyone is using such a set-up and has any thoughts on it. I had rather hoped the RX output socket was a buffered output from the K3 receive chain but sadly it isn't. I also have an Advanced Receiver Products P50VDG 50 MHz pre-amp on order (http://www.advancedreceiver.com/), again anyone else using one of these with their K3? It looks easy enough to connect as a direct pre-amp via the in/out sockets on the KXV3. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Side Tone Volume Control
I agee, and would also like the sidetone volume separately adjustable from the spot volume. If I have the sidetone at a reasonable level with headphones on, I can hardly hear the spot tone. 73, Gary W7TEA Bud Morin wrote: If I turn the AF volume up to hear a weak signal, I don't want the side tone volume to go up and blow me out of the chair. Leave it as it is, please. Bud, K9ZT -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re%3A-Side-Tone-Volume-Control-tp587822p587909.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
