Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Hajo Dezelski]

Hi,

have a look at this list
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/px3_keyboard_list_A3.pdf

I am sure it is also valid for the P3

73 de Hajo DL1SDZ
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Re: [Elecraft] SP3 ISSUE

[Edward R Cole]

Experience!
Back in 1980 I was beginning my new career as two-way radio tech 
working in a BLM radio shop (had been mw engineer in old career in 
CA) and asked help troubleshooting from a "50's oldster".  He told me 
that most new-young techs make the mistake of looking for high-tech 
problems when most "troubles" are simple.


So check:
1.  power source; signal input/output - first  (that includes cables 
and connectors)(and test equipment-meters)

2.  Control settings (pilot error stuff)
3.  Look, Feel, Sniff (often the problem will be very evident to 
those senses)(that hot blackened thingy)

4.  Then get out the schematic and repair manual
5.  Call customer service (not always step five).

Of course if you ARE customer service then ask the "old guy" ;-)

Just yesterday two old trusted test cables went "open ckt" and a 
trusted coax went high SWR.

My spectrum analyzer that "seemed dead" had a switch in the wrong position.
If voltages seem wrong check the ground wire.
Experience!

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] SP3 ISSUE

[Don Wilhelm]

All,

I can vouch for that as well.  I recently had a K2 on the workbench 
recently and observed that the receive response was not as good as 
expected.  I connected it to my signal generator which verified the poor 
response.  Then when turning the K2 on its back to do some probing, all 
the problems when away.
Bottom line was that I had a bad coax jumper in my assortment of BNC to 
BNC jumpers.  Wiggling the ends of the coax revealed which end it was 
and that end was immediately cut off.  BTW, it showed no problem in 
transmit, only receive.


Bad cables are often the culprit when experiencing a problem. Before 
digging into the equipment, check the cables.  That will fix the problem 
in 75% or more of the cases.
Build your own experience base and stow it away in your brain for later 
occurrences.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2015 5:29 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Experience!
Back in 1980 I was beginning my new career as two-way radio tech 
working in a BLM radio shop (had been mw engineer in old career in CA) 
and asked help troubleshooting from a "50's oldster".  He told me that 
most new-young techs make the mistake of looking for high-tech 
problems when most "troubles" are simple.


So check:
1.  power source; signal input/output - first  (that includes cables 
and connectors)(and test equipment-meters)

2.  Control settings (pilot error stuff)
3.  Look, Feel, Sniff (often the problem will be very evident to those 
senses)(that hot blackened thingy)

4.  Then get out the schematic and repair manual
5.  Call customer service (not always step five).



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 With other radios

[Robert Harmon]

The TS-590SG does not provide a port for a panadapter connection, 
however there are several

work arounds.  Here is some info to start with.

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?topic=100599.0


73 and Merry Christmas 
Bob
K6UJ




On 12/24/15 5:51 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:

Why not?

On 12/24/2015 6:19 PM, Robin Moseley wrote:

No..not gonna happen..
-Original Message- From: Doug Person via Elecraft Sent: 
Friday, December 25, 2015 1:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 With other radios
A friend of mine received a Kenwood TS-590SG for Christmas.  He asked 
me if there was a way to get the Elecraft P3 Panadapter to work with 
it.  Does anyone know if this is possible?

I appreciate any help on this.

Thanks

Doug -- K0DXV


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[Elecraft] Using K3 KIO3B USB with Writelog

[Ken Widelitz]

What Port Settings would I use in Writelog to grab the frequency from the
Elecraft K3 using the new KIO3B USB connection?

 

Also, how would I set up the KIO3B USB computer audio out to the K3 mic in
with a SO2R configuration? Currently, the stereo audio out from the computer
goes to a mic splitter box with isolation transformers to a mono left and
mono right output that goes to each K3's mic connector. My thought is I need
to specify separate sound cards in the Writelog Sound Board Mixer and bypass
the mic splitter box. How important would the isolation transformers be with
the KIO3B sound card for mic input? I haven't plugged the KIO3B in to the
computer yet so I'm not sure how I designate which K3 USB Sound Card is
which. I just got the K3's back from being upgraded and wanted to make sure
everything was working with my old RS-232/computer sound card configuration
first.

 

BTW, as to my new Elecraft P3 upgrades, the PVGA is amazingly cool. Haven't
gotten to the TXMON functions yet.

 

Excuse the dual posting to the Elecraft  and Writelog reflectors, but my
inquiries cover both. 

 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Roger D Johnson]

Now you're talking an extra Kilobuck for these goodies. A programmable keypad
is far less expensive.

73, Roger

On 12/24/2015 10:51 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Hi,
A P3 with the SVGA option can store 50, 124 character macros that can be 
executed with a single Ctrl-, Alt-, or Alt-Ctrl-key.  You do have to have a 
keyboard attached to the P3 but there are a variety of small wireless keyboards 
that work.
Cheers and Happy Holidays to all,
Fred KE7X

See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.



From: Elecraft  on behalf of David 
Cole
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:06 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

Please keep this discussion on the reflector...  I am also looking for
an external keypad for launching macros, that works with a P3, and a
computer in place as well...
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 14:43 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:

In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad and 
just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a couple 
guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.

While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like a 
Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.

Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to everyone.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

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[Elecraft] Merry Christmas!

[Ian - Ham]

>From the entire Kahn family, best wishes to the Elecraft family for a Merry
Christmas! May everyone (and your families) enjoy the blessings of this
season.

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com  

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Robert G Strickland]

I use LP-Pan2 with a M-Audio 96k sound card internal to the computer. 
Software is NaP3v4. The screen [for all applications] is a 21" LG. The 
computer is an DIY AMD 2.1Ghz cpu, 2G ram, running Win7-64 [it's pretty 
long in the tooth]. I use a microHam CW keyer interface with its Router 
port-sharing software. Contest logging is N1MM. So...


The choice of LP-Pan is dictated by space requirements; no room for 
another box at the operating position. So, my choice is not based on A-B 
comparisons/performance. Otherwise, all K-line station.


I have never had any problems with the computer supporting LP-Pan and 
its software, N1MM, and browser all at the same time. I can fit all of 
the necessary and desired optional windows for all software on the 
screen during a contest. NaP3 has never given me any trouble albeit it's 
no longer supported by its author. No question that getting LP-Pan setup 
and running is more demanding than the P3 which, so I hear, is pretty 
much a turnkey operation. That said, once online, the LP-Pan setup is 
stable and runs constantly throughout a 48hr contest without a hitch. In 
contests, I run the NaP3 display at around 14"x4" on the LG monitor - 
very pretty and helpful. Some use a dedicated monitor for their 
panadapter; however, I have not found that necessary to provide the info 
that I "need" during a contest. Issues of cost are an individual matter.


How one balances all these parameters is, again, an individual matter. 
Either way ends up with a useful tool. I can't imagine operating without 
a panadapter at this point. So, prepare to get "hooked."


...robert

On 12/24/2015 16:47, Juliean Galak wrote:

I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's 
obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the lp-pan, 
or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk - there'll be 
a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these solutions compared 
to the p3?  Especially the integration?

Thanks,
Juliean
KD2JPF
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 With other radios

[Robin Moseley]

No..
not gonna happen..

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Person via Elecraft 
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 1:00 AM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 With other radios 

A friend of mine received a Kenwood TS-590SG for Christmas.  He asked me 
if there was a way to get the Elecraft P3 Panadapter to work with it.  
Does anyone know if this is possible?

I appreciate any help on this.

Thanks

Doug -- K0DXV
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Re: [Elecraft] Happy Holidays from Elecraft

[kg9hfr...@gmail.com]

Merry Christmas to all the Elecraft folks.

Thanks for all your efforts!

Frank KG9H
Elecraft KX3 s/n 7141
Elecraft K3 s/n 1217


> On Dec 24, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> On behalf of our entire staff, best wishes to all for the holidays and the 
> new year. Thank you for your support of Elecraft, as well as your enthusiasm 
> and sense of community. This is what makes our jobs enjoyable year-round.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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[Elecraft] Wayne's response

[Ken G Kopp]

>From what other radio company would we see a response to a user's question
on Christmas Eve, and from a company principal, no less?

73

Ken -   K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Dick Dickinson]

The LP-Pan will work fine with some of the more recent motherboard based
soundcards.  Check for quality and bandwitdth.

 

 

73,

Dick - KA5KKT

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Season's Greetings!

[Bill Frantz]

On 12/24/15 at 2:34 PM, kengk...@gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) wrote:


My Lady, Rose (N7HKW) and I want to wish the best of the season for the
entire Elecraft family.


I join you in best wishes for the entire Elecraft family. And a 
Happy New Year.


She's still deemed to be cancer free, and we can't ask for anything
better.


This news is one of the best presents I have received. (And the 
new KX3 case she made is beautiful and functional.)


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 With other radios

[Wes (N7WS)]

Why not?

On 12/24/2015 6:19 PM, Robin Moseley wrote:

No..not gonna happen..
-Original Message- From: Doug Person via Elecraft Sent: Friday, 
December 25, 2015 1:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 
With other radios
A friend of mine received a Kenwood TS-590SG for Christmas.  He asked me if 
there was a way to get the Elecraft P3 Panadapter to work with it.  Does 
anyone know if this is possible?

I appreciate any help on this.

Thanks

Doug -- K0DXV


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Re: [Elecraft] T1 Operational Question

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Jim,

The T1 does not have RF sensing capability. That would have increased the size 
and cost of the tuner. 

It does, however, have remote-control capability, as described in the manual. 
You can send a simple pulse stream to the T1 to go to a given band (160-6 m) 
and recall the last-used settings. A microcontroller or PC program could be 
used to create the pulse stream. You should only have to tune up once on each 
band, assuming you don't change antennas. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

(Taking a brief break from Christmas wrapping)


On Dec 24, 2015, at 8:50 PM, James Bennett  wrote:

> I hope I haven't made a $150 mistake. I'm looking for information from other 
> T1 Automatic Antenna Tuner owners >
> 
> A couple months ago I built a SoftRock RXTX 1 watt transceiver to use as a 
> WSPR sending and receiving rig. My intention was to use it on at least 20 and 
> 30 meters, with the WSPR software doing "band hopping". The WSPR software, 
> when set to do band hopping, can be made to send a few seconds of continuous 
> tone RF so an attached antenna tuner could do it's thing before the WSPR 
> stuff is transmitted. The antenna I use is an 88 foot long doublet fed with 
> 600 ohm ladder line. Obviously this antenna needs to be used with a tuner. I 
> purchased the Elecraft T1 for this purpose.
> 
> I was under the impression that the "automatic" part of the T1 meant that it 
> would recall L/C values from memory automatically, so that when the WSPR 
> software changed bands on the SoftRock and the radio sent out it's tuning 
> signal, the T1 would see the RF frequency and automatically set the recalled 
> L/C values. Mine does not.
> 
> I am testing the newly-built T1 with my KX3. Here is what happens: First, I 
> put the T1 into auto mode, and then I set the KX3 to a frequency on 20 meters 
> and make the T1 tune. This works fine; my SWR on the KX3 goes from ugly to 
> 1:1. Then I go to 30 meters and do the same thing. If I now put the KX3 back 
> on 20 meters on that exact same frequency and press my key, I have the ugly 
> SWR back again. I thought this tuner would recall the previous setting when 
> it saw that 20 meter RF. But alas, it does not.
> 
> So, my question is - have I messed something up in building the tuner, am I 
> doing something wrong in my procedure, or have I bought myself a Christmas 
> present I can't use?
> 
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Cady, Fred]

Yep, and in "The Elecraft P3, SVGA, and Tx Monitor" for those with older K3 
books.
Cheers,
Fred
www.ke7x.com



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Mike VE3YF 

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 1:47 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

Hi Fred:

I take it it is in the K3 Book (2nd Edition) under the P3 Section. Tnx Fred


73 De Mike
VE3YF

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

and I thank you again sir!!
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 23:06 +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> have a look at this list
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/px3_keyboard_list_A3.pdf
> 
> I am sure it is also valid for the P3
> 
> 73 de Hajo DL1SDZ
> 

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[Elecraft] Season's Greetings!

[Ken G Kopp]

My Lady, Rose (N7HKW) and I want to wish the best of the season for the
entire Elecraft family.

She's still deemed to be cancer free, and we can't ask for anything
better.

73!

Ken & Rose
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

I'm a fan of just turning on the radio and having it going before a
computer has the chance to boot up. But then again, I always have a
computer running so I'm not sure why that is.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015, Juliean Galak wrote:


I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's 
obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the lp-pan, 
or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk - there'll be 
a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these solutions compared 
to the p3?  Especially the integration?

Thanks,
Juliean
KD2JPF
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3 powers off]

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

Maybe.
73, Mike NF4L


> On Dec 21, 2015, at 9:29 PM, Harry Yingst  wrote:
> 
> Did the power supply hiccup?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm 
> To: Mike Reublin NF4L ; Elecraft List 
>  
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3 powers off]
> 
> What feature did you add to your K3 - look there.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/21/2015 1:48 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> > I got a new K3 feature for Christmas. Today just sitting here with the K3 
> > on, I heard some relay chatter and the rig turned off. I turned it back on, 
> > and after about an hour, a repeat performance. I wasn't doing any 
> > transmitting.
> >
> > 73, Mike NF4L
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Wow...  Anyone having tested this with an external keypad have a
suggestion for a device, or will just any external keypad work as long
as it is USB?
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 21:39 +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
> In one Word: YES!
> 
> 
> 73 de Hajo
> 
> Gruss
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[Elecraft] T1 Operational Question

[James Bennett]

I hope I haven't made a $150 mistake. I'm looking for information from other T1 
Automatic Antenna Tuner owners >

A couple months ago I built a SoftRock RXTX 1 watt transceiver to use as a WSPR 
sending and receiving rig. My intention was to use it on at least 20 and 30 
meters, with the WSPR software doing "band hopping". The WSPR software, when 
set to do band hopping, can be made to send a few seconds of continuous tone RF 
so an attached antenna tuner could do it's thing before the WSPR stuff is 
transmitted. The antenna I use is an 88 foot long doublet fed with 600 ohm 
ladder line. Obviously this antenna needs to be used with a tuner. I purchased 
the Elecraft T1 for this purpose.

I was under the impression that the "automatic" part of the T1 meant that it 
would recall L/C values from memory automatically, so that when the WSPR 
software changed bands on the SoftRock and the radio sent out it's tuning 
signal, the T1 would see the RF frequency and automatically set the recalled 
L/C values. Mine does not.

I am testing the newly-built T1 with my KX3. Here is what happens: First, I put 
the T1 into auto mode, and then I set the KX3 to a frequency on 20 meters and 
make the T1 tune. This works fine; my SWR on the KX3 goes from ugly to 1:1. 
Then I go to 30 meters and do the same thing. If I now put the KX3 back on 20 
meters on that exact same frequency and press my key, I have the ugly SWR back 
again. I thought this tuner would recall the previous setting when it saw that 
20 meter RF. But alas, it does not.

So, my question is - have I messed something up in building the tuner, am I 
doing something wrong in my procedure, or have I bought myself a Christmas 
present I can't use?

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
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[Elecraft] P3 With other radios

[Doug Person via Elecraft]

A friend of mine received a Kenwood TS-590SG for Christmas.  He asked me 
if there was a way to get the Elecraft P3 Panadapter to work with it.  
Does anyone know if this is possible?

I appreciate any help on this.

Thanks

Doug -- K0DXV
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Re: [Elecraft] T1 Operational Question

[James Bennett]

Hi Wayne, 

Thanks for the reply, but……. you are supposed to be wrapping Christmas 
presents!!! :-)

Understood about the size and cost thing. Unfortunately, it pretty much means 
that it is actually a “semi-automatic” tuner. And, since the band changing is 
being done from within a program K1JT’s WSPR, I have a feeling I’ve got no way 
to do the remote control stuff per the manual. I’ll investigate the feasibility 
of user mods to WSPR, but not holding my breath at this point.

Thanks again, and have a happy holiday.

73, Jim


> On   Thursday, Dec 24, 2015, at  Thursday, 9:24 PM, Wayne Burdick 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> The T1 does not have RF sensing capability. That would have increased the 
> size and cost of the tuner. 
> 
> It does, however, have remote-control capability, as described in the manual. 
> You can send a simple pulse stream to the T1 to go to a given band (160-6 m) 
> and recall the last-used settings. A microcontroller or PC program could be 
> used to create the pulse stream. You should only have to tune up once on each 
> band, assuming you don't change antennas. 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> (Taking a brief break from Christmas wrapping)
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2015, at 8:50 PM, James Bennett  > wrote:
> 
>> I hope I haven't made a $150 mistake. I'm looking for information from other 
>> T1 Automatic Antenna Tuner owners >
>> 
>> A couple months ago I built a SoftRock RXTX 1 watt transceiver to use as a 
>> WSPR sending and receiving rig. My intention was to use it on at least 20 
>> and 30 meters, with the WSPR software doing "band hopping". The WSPR 
>> software, when set to do band hopping, can be made to send a few seconds of 
>> continuous tone RF so an attached antenna tuner could do it's thing before 
>> the WSPR stuff is transmitted. The antenna I use is an 88 foot long doublet 
>> fed with 600 ohm ladder line. Obviously this antenna needs to be used with a 
>> tuner. I purchased the Elecraft T1 for this purpose.
>> 
>> I was under the impression that the "automatic" part of the T1 meant that it 
>> would recall L/C values from memory automatically, so that when the WSPR 
>> software changed bands on the SoftRock and the radio sent out it's tuning 
>> signal, the T1 would see the RF frequency and automatically set the recalled 
>> L/C values. Mine does not.
>> 
>> I am testing the newly-built T1 with my KX3. Here is what happens: First, I 
>> put the T1 into auto mode, and then I set the KX3 to a frequency on 20 
>> meters and make the T1 tune. This works fine; my SWR on the KX3 goes from 
>> ugly to 1:1. Then I go to 30 meters and do the same thing. If I now put the 
>> KX3 back on 20 meters on that exact same frequency and press my key, I have 
>> the ugly SWR back again. I thought this tuner would recall the previous 
>> setting when it saw that 20 meter RF. But alas, it does not.
>> 
>> So, my question is - have I messed something up in building the tuner, am I 
>> doing something wrong in my procedure, or have I bought myself a Christmas 
>> present I can't use?
>> 
>> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 With other radios

[Rose]

Yes, the P3 IF input is programmable (455 kHz to 21+ MHz) for use with
other radio's.  See the Elecraft website or the online manual PDF.

73

Ken - K0PP
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[Elecraft] Happy Holidays from Elecraft

[Wayne Burdick]

On behalf of our entire staff, best wishes to all for the holidays and the new 
year. Thank you for your support of Elecraft, as well as your enthusiasm and 
sense of community. This is what makes our jobs enjoyable year-round.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Happy Holidays from Elecraft

[Gene Gabry]

A very Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Holidays to the Elecraft
Family!

Looking forward to the many new technologies to come in the new year!
Thank you for your outstanding support :) 

73 Gene N9TF

K3S 10057

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Subject: [Elecraft] Happy Holidays from Elecraft

On behalf of our entire staff, best wishes to all for the holidays and the
new year. Thank you for your support of Elecraft, as well as your enthusiasm
and sense of community. This is what makes our jobs enjoyable year-round.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Mike VE3YF]

Hi Dave:

I was pointed to this:

http://www.eham.net/articles/32176

I am contacting Jeff with some finer details. Tnx.

73 De Mike
VE3YF

http://www.ve3yf.com
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[zabarnick .]

Actually the big advantage is the combined panadapter and second receiver
that the LP-PAN/NaP3 combination gives.
It can be challenging getting the full 2nd receiver capability working, but
once you do it offers many of the capabilities
(e.g., listening to VFO A and B simultaneously) that would require both the
P3 and the K3 second receiver.

Also, the LP-PAN/NaP3 combination is MUCH less expensive than buying the
P3/KRX3 combination -- $200 to $300 for
the LP-PAN/NaP3 including a quality sound card vs at least $1300 for the
P3/KRX3 combo.

Steve N9SZ

>Juliean, IMHO the quality is comparable between P3/SVGA and LP-PAN/NaP3.
>Here's an image from an LP-PAN/NaP3 panadapter that I used a while back on
>an Orion:
>http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?cache==orionpan3.jpg
>
>The big issue is whether you want to deal with the computer interface side
>of LP-PAN/NaP3 and the necessary port-sharing if you also want to use a
>CAT-connected logging program.  You'll also need to get all the settings
>right in NaP3 for the panadapter calibration to be accurate in all modes.
>
>The big advantage of NaP3 over other LP-PAN software options is the
>integral telnet connection that will paint a bandmap superimposed on the
>spectral display.
>
>73, Barry N1EU
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Jim Brown]

On Thu,12/24/2015 11:04 AM, zabarnick . wrote:

Also, the LP-PAN/NaP3 combination is MUCH less expensive than buying the
P3/KRX3 combination -- $200 to $300 for the LP-PAN/NaP3 including a quality 
sound card vs at least $1300 for the P3/KRX3 combo.


You're forgetting the cost of the computer and the sound card.  My 
experience has been that NaP3 and other SDR software burns a fair amount 
of computer horsepower.  Many of us use a vintage computer in our shacks 
for general logging, digital encode/decode, and contest logging. In my 
experience, I can't successfully add NaP3 to a vintage box that is 
handling all of those other functions quite well.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[zabarnick .]

I've seen lots of used LP-PAN's being sold with a sound card for under
$200. A new LP-PAN is $250 and a good sound card can be found for
under $70. As far as the computer goes, I'm running NaP3 on a 2008
vintage E8600 processor (simultaneously running AC Log, NaP3, CC User,
LP-Bridge, DigiPan, MMTTY, and CW Get). Any computer less than ten
years old should be up to the job (A fast enough computer can be
purchased for less than the price of a KIO3B  :-).

Steve N9SZ


>You're forgetting the cost of the computer and the sound card.  My
>experience has been that NaP3 and other SDR software burns a fair amount
>of computer horsepower.  Many of us use a vintage computer in our shacks
>for general logging, digital encode/decode, and contest logging. In my
>experience, I can't successfully add NaP3 to a vintage box that is
>handling all of those other functions quite well.
>
>73, Jim K9YC


On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 2:04 PM, zabarnick .  wrote:

> Actually the big advantage is the combined panadapter and second receiver
> that the LP-PAN/NaP3 combination gives.
> It can be challenging getting the full 2nd receiver capability working,
> but once you do it offers many of the capabilities
> (e.g., listening to VFO A and B simultaneously) that would require both
> the P3 and the K3 second receiver.
>
> Also, the LP-PAN/NaP3 combination is MUCH less expensive than buying the
> P3/KRX3 combination -- $200 to $300 for
> the LP-PAN/NaP3 including a quality sound card vs at least $1300 for the
> P3/KRX3 combo.
>
> Steve N9SZ
>
> >Juliean, IMHO the quality is comparable between P3/SVGA and LP-PAN/NaP3.
> >Here's an image from an LP-PAN/NaP3 panadapter that I used a while back on
> >an Orion:
> >http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?cache==orionpan3.jpg
> >
> >The big issue is whether you want to deal with the computer interface side
> >of LP-PAN/NaP3 and the necessary port-sharing if you also want to use a
> >CAT-connected logging program.  You'll also need to get all the settings
> >right in NaP3 for the panadapter calibration to be accurate in all modes.
> >
> >The big advantage of NaP3 over other LP-PAN software options is the
> >integral telnet connection that will paint a bandmap superimposed on the
> >spectral display.
> >
> >73, Barry N1EU
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Hi Fred,
Are you saying it is as simple as adding an external keypad to the P3,
then triggering macros from the P3?
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 15:51 +, Cady, Fred wrote:
> Hi,
> A P3 with the SVGA option can store 50, 124 character macros that can be 
> executed with a single Ctrl-, Alt-, or Alt-Ctrl-key.  You do have to have a 
> keyboard attached to the P3 but there are a variety of small wireless 
> keyboards that work.
> Cheers and Happy Holidays to all,
> Fred KE7X
> 
> See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elecraft  on behalf of David Cole 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:06 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)
> 
> Please keep this discussion on the reflector...  I am also looking for
> an external keypad for launching macros, that works with a P3, and a
> computer in place as well...
> --
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> www.nk7z.net
> 
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 14:43 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> > In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
> > Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad 
> > and just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a 
> > couple guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.
> >
> > While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
> > this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like 
> > a Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.
> >
> > Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to 
> > everyone.
> >
> >
> > 73 De Mike
> > VE3YF
> >
> > http://www.ve3yf.com
> > [http://www.ve3yf.com/]
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[David Gilbert]

Even if you add in the cost of a computer and a top notch sound card 
you're still about half the cost of the P3 set.  You can buy a pretty 
powerful refurbished computer for less than $300, and a monitor for less 
than $100.


Also, try running CW Skimmer or any third party SDR software (current or 
future) on a P3.


Dave   AB7E


On 12/24/2015 12:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote:


You're forgetting the cost of the computer and the sound card.  My 
experience has been that NaP3 and other SDR software burns a fair 
amount of computer horsepower.  Many of us use a vintage computer in 
our shacks for general logging, digital encode/decode, and contest 
logging. In my experience, I can't successfully add NaP3 to a vintage 
box that is handling all of those other functions quite well.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Hajo Dezelski]

In one Word: YES!

73 de Hajo

Gruss
Hajo

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Mike VE3YF]

Hi Fred:

I take it it is in the K3 Book (2nd Edition) under the P3 Section. Tnx Fred


73 De Mike
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[Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Juliean Galak]

I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's 
obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the lp-pan, 
or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk - there'll be 
a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these solutions compared 
to the p3?  Especially the integration?

Thanks,
Juliean
KD2JPF 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Barry N1EU]

Juliean, IMHO the quality is comparable between P3/SVGA and LP-PAN/NaP3.
Here's an image from an LP-PAN/NaP3 panadapter that I used a while back on
an Orion:
http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?cache==orionpan3.jpg

The big issue is whether you want to deal with the computer interface side
of LP-PAN/NaP3 and the necessary port-sharing if you also want to use a
CAT-connected logging program.  You'll also need to get all the settings
right in NaP3 for the panadapter calibration to be accurate in all modes.

The big advantage of NaP3 over other LP-PAN software options is the
integral telnet connection that will paint a bandmap superimposed on the
spectral display.

73, Barry N1EU



On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Juliean Galak  wrote:

> I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's
> obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the
> lp-pan, or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk -
> there'll be a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these
> solutions compared to the p3?  Especially the integration?
>
> Thanks,
> Juliean
> KD2JPF
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Steve Ellington]

I've had both over the past 8 years with the K3:

Computer bases system advantages:
1. Cheaper. $300 - $500
2. Better resolution potential but depends on which SDR or sound card you
choose.
3. Point and click with mouse
4. Band changing from screen

Computer based disadvantages:
1. Cabling complexity i.e. external sound card + LP-Pan. Sound card can be
eliminated with a Fun Cube Dongle.
2. Total dependency on computer.
3. Requires a serial port which mandates using a virtual serial port
program such as LP-Bridge is you want to use a logging program at the same
time.
4. Computer must be fast enough to keep up with NAP3's requirements. I use
a quad core, I7 and 12gb of ram. You could do with less but I know this
works. This will certainly increase the CPU load on your computer.
5. Unless you have 2 monitors you will be constantly frustrated wanting to
see both your log and pan at once.

P3 System advantages
1. Simple connectivity to K3
2. Instant bandscope by simply turning on the K3.
3. Eliminates the need for any computer or software. You really need to
experience this to appreciate it. NAP3 is no longer supported by the author
and is not bug free.
4. Easy interface to a large screen monitor...Even your 65" TV will work
via the optional SVGA adapter.

Note: Not all monitors have VGA inputs therefore the P3 may need an
adapter. I use a VGA to HDMI adapter.

P3 Disadvantages:
1. Expensive $700 to $1000
2. Point and click but requires cranking a knob on the P3...I usually just
tune the K3s manually instead.

Like I stated aboveI'm relieved to no longer depend on the computer.
There was always something needing attention and software was really a
pain. I've learned to live the the P3's shortcomings. Now all my computer
needs to do is run the logging program. BTW: I use Logger32 and it allows
using your mouse wheel for tuning anyway.

Steve N4LQ







On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Juliean Galak  wrote:

> I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's
> obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the
> lp-pan, or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk -
> there'll be a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these
> solutions compared to the p3?  Especially the integration?
>
> Thanks,
> Juliean
> KD2JPF
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs. other panadapter options

[Wes (N7WS)]

I tried the LP-Pan once.  It was OK but became two boxes by the time I had a 
decent external soundcard.  I detested the then available PowerSDR software.  
Probably better now, but I use an SDR-IQ and SpectraVue* software.  Interfaces 
perfectly with the K3/K3S.  Gives both a spectrum and waterfall display, point 
and click tuning and demodulation if you like (I don't). The software knows all 
of the K3 i-f offsets and corrects the frequency display automatically.  I have 
two of them, one on my K3 and another on the K3S.


The SDR-IQ is out of production now but used ones show up frequently.  It's been 
replaced with the Cloud-IQ which is double the price of the going rate for an 
SDR-IQ.  The Cloud-IQ uses Ethernet instead of USB so I'm unclear about 
interfacing with the K3, even though SpectraVue is still used.  I use LP-Bridge 
for USB port sharing between my logging programs, the SDR and the K3s.


*SpectraVue is to me, straightforward.  I have yet to find any other SDR 
software that is easily understood and used by a normal human being.



On 12/24/2015 9:47 AM, Juliean Galak wrote:

I'm planning on getting a K3s and am wondering about panadapters.  There's 
obviously the P3, but there are also the computer-based I new like the lp-pan, 
or using an sdr.  I kind of like having one less box on the desk - there'll be 
a computer there no matter what.  How's the quality of these solutions compared 
to the p3?  Especially the integration?

Thanks,
Juliean
KD2JPF



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn on Blinding Flash

[David Bunte]

I have been mulling this over since I saw the initial post.  I keep coming
back to the description as a "blinding flash", and "like a flash cube".
When my P3 first comes on, there is a moment when the entire screen lights
up, but the intensity appears to be exactly the same as the normal
brightness, of the display.  I see NOTHING that I would describe as a
"blinding flash", or like a "flash cube".  IF what you, and it would seem,
others are seeing, really is significantly brighter than the normal white
levels of the legend on the screen, etc., then I would certainly contact
Elecraft support directly.

Dave - K9FN

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Steve Ellington 
wrote:

> Good enough. I'm not going to worry about it.
> It's just that most things like TVs etc. don't do that and you'd think such
> a surge wouldn't be healthy.
> 73 to all.
> Steve N4LQ
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 6:21 PM, W5RDW  wrote:
>
> > Mine has done that since day one. I never gave it a thought something was
> > not
> > right.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Cady, Fred]

Hi,
A P3 with the SVGA option can store 50, 124 character macros that can be 
executed with a single Ctrl-, Alt-, or Alt-Ctrl-key.  You do have to have a 
keyboard attached to the P3 but there are a variety of small wireless keyboards 
that work.
Cheers and Happy Holidays to all,
Fred KE7X

See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.



From: Elecraft  on behalf of David Cole 

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:06 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

Please keep this discussion on the reflector...  I am also looking for
an external keypad for launching macros, that works with a P3, and a
computer in place as well...
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Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 14:43 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
> Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad 
> and just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a 
> couple guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.
>
> While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
> this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like a 
> Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.
>
> Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to 
> everyone.
>
>
> 73 De Mike
> VE3YF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio response, big roll off observed

[Jim - N4ST]

Well, the phone jack outputs do have 0.1uF capacitors to ground.  Depending
on the input impedance of your measurement device, there could be a
substantial roll-off.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio response, big roll off observed

Problem solved.
Faulty Phone connection on back of rig. 
Line and speaker OK
Might need to replace the part on the PCB.

Johan



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/2K-FA int.

[Ignacy]

When I visited Gianfranco 3 years ago he showed me flexible mount of the
existing relay that reduced the clatter to almost none. Not sure whether
this has been implemented. 
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[Elecraft] KXPD1 - K2 Adapter

[Dauer, Edward]

Thanks to the many who offered suggestions in reply to my query.  Some
were very inventive; all are worth considering.

Specifically as to the KXPD2-K2 adapter (Fran¹s note below), the linked
photo looks like a very good solution.  However, the adapter seems no
longer to be on the Elecraft Order Page.  I¹ve sent an inquiry to Sales
but no reply yet.  They are probably busy this week.  Meanwhile, if anyone
has an adapter (and maybe even the KXPD1 paddle with it) that they¹d like
to part with for a price, I might be interested.  Please reply off-line.

Tnx,

Ted, KN1CBR


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>Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 12:15:01 -0500
>From: Francis Belliveau 
>To: "Dauer, Edward" 
>Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Paddle for K2
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>Ted,
>
>If you want to stay truly portable you might want to check into the
>"KXPD1-K2 Mounting Bracket"; I think that they are still available from
>Elecraft.
>It uses the K2 as the weight to hold a KXPD1 paddle so there is plenty of
>weight without needing to have heavy paddles.  You can see them at:
>http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/kxpd1k2.htm
>
>It was designed to hold the KXPD1 paddles, build for the KX1 which are
>very nice, but not mechanically adjustable.
>
>You might also think about making something similar for the KXPD3
>paddles, but the design would need to be very different.
>
>There are lots of other light-weight paddles available, but it sounds
>like you are one of the heavy-handed users that Wayne ran into while
>alpha-testing the original KXPD1-K2 design; they kept knocking the
>bracket off the tilt stand.
>That would mean you need a method to hold them down.
>
>I would also recommend one of the paddle sets from Palm Radio.  I also
>own a set of their mini-paddles and like them a lot.  I
>That model is sturdy enough to clamp down with an ordinary C-clamp.
>I built a foldable wrist-rest attachment, using plexiglass, that allows
>me to hold them in place by resting the wrist of my sending hand on it to
>hold them in place.  That makes for nearly infinite orientation options
>with minimal weight.
>
>Good luck with your search.
>73,
>Fran
>
>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 08:42, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
>> 
>> Seeking suggestions about a CW iambic paddle for the K2.  The latest
>>posts I found in the archives go back to 2008.  Anyone have experience
>>they could share with paddles since then?  I would like something with
>>less mass than a Bencher, to keep the rig portable, but one that won?t
>>walk across the table with real use.  Thanks . . .
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 integration with SPE Expert 2K-FA

[Ignacy]

See diagrams for K3 on SPE yahoo group. In fact, one only needs 4 wires:
ground, TX of serial, PTT and turn-on. Works as well as it could. 
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Re: [Elecraft] SP3 ISSUE

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Happens over and over. #1 thing that goes wrong in the shack ... cables,
adapters and connectors, busted, wrong, wrong wiring, don't fit, etc.  And
it's often the LAST place we look.

Speaker cables/connectors need to be very low resistance. One point of
issue is machine-crimped pins in a connector that grab insulated wires and
penetrate the insulation. It's possible for the pin crimping to contact
only a few strands of the stranded wire and pass automated continuity
checking but be entirely unsatisfactory for the low R speaker use. Also a
bit of patina on a pin or mating surface can do the same thing.

Glad you found it before you sent 'em back. That's so embarrassing. I
tore apart an amp once, in the middle of a multi-multi contest effort,
where the problem turned out to be the RCA plug on the cable for the
amp's relay connection. That was so embarrassing.

73 and happy holidays,

Guy K2AV

On Thursday, December 24, 2015, Mike VE3YF  wrote:

> I received my pair of SP3's last week and I also had a problem, where I
> could get stereo but 1 spkr would always be weaker in audio than the other.
> I contacted Elecraft and they couldn't figure it out either. They were
> fully prepared to ship me an new set (Matched). Over the weekend I was
> doing some re-wiring of cabling and found that the original 4 cables that I
> was using were not up to par, could have been purchased offshore. I
> replaced the 4 cables with ones made in NA and the speakers worked
> perfectly.
>
> So for anyone having speaker problems, definately check out the cables. In
> my case I didn't use the supplied cables as they were not long enough for
> my situation. But excellent support from Elecraft on wanting to ship me out
> a new set of speakers.
>
> I also found that the original cables that I was using checked out ok with
> a meter, but once in the circuit they worked like crap.
>
>
> 73 De Mike
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>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On Flash

[Ed G]

Hello,
 I have also experienced the turn on flash on my PX3. Now that some
others have posted about it on the P3, I will note that I find it just a tad
annoying, and I prefer to look away from the screen when I turn on the PX3.
I do not know if anything is being overstressed (I'm not familiar with the
specs, whether the display and/or backlight are being run at max voltages,
etc). I finally found a way to use my iphone camera's burst feature, and
posted a short series of photos of my PX3 turning on:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KX3/photos/albums/1409683511
The photos seem to show a short very bright flash, followed by a decreasing
intensity, then a transition to the boot loader message, then a further
transition to the operating display.  I would also note the pictures seem to
support the impression that the turn on intensity is brighter than the
whites seen in the operating display.  Even if the turn on flash does not
detract from overall component lifetime, the designers might want to see if
it could be suppressed to help polish the overall operating experience of
the analyzers, while giving tired old eyes a break.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On Flash

[Steve Ellington]

>From my research:
I believe all of these LED/LCD displays run the LED back-light at full
blast continuously. The LCD blocks the light per the video data however on
the P3, the LED back-light comes on before the LCD has time to block
it...Thus the flash effect.
It probably won't hurt anything but does light up a dark room rather
abruptly.

Steve N4LQ

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Ed G  wrote:

> Hello,
>  I have also experienced the turn on flash on my PX3. Now that some
> others have posted about it on the P3, I will note that I find it just a
> tad
> annoying, and I prefer to look away from the screen when I turn on the PX3.
> I do not know if anything is being overstressed (I'm not familiar with the
> specs, whether the display and/or backlight are being run at max voltages,
> etc). I finally found a way to use my iphone camera's burst feature, and
> posted a short series of photos of my PX3 turning on:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KX3/photos/albums/1409683511
> The photos seem to show a short very bright flash, followed by a decreasing
> intensity, then a transition to the boot loader message, then a further
> transition to the operating display.  I would also note the pictures seem
> to
> support the impression that the turn on intensity is brighter than the
> whites seen in the operating display.  Even if the turn on flash does not
> detract from overall component lifetime, the designers might want to see if
> it could be suppressed to help polish the overall operating experience of
> the analyzers, while giving tired old eyes a break.
> --Ed, N3CW--
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On Flash

[Jim Sheldon]

 Funny, but until this thread I'd never noticed it.  Mine does the same 
thing, but since I have my P3 set to power up when I turn the power 
supply on and before the K3, I'm looking at the power supply when it 
turns on so I never saw it before today.  It's part of the power on 
sequence.  I don't find it bright enough to be annoying at all.  It 
certainly hasn't hurt the P3 in 5 years of daily operation though.


Jim - W0EB

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Sent: 12/24/2015 8:17:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Turn On Flash


Hello,
 I have also experienced the turn on flash on my PX3. Now that some
others have posted about it on the P3, I will note that I find it just 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/2K-FA int.

[Roy Koeppe]

" looking for input on how well the K3 will integrate with the SPE expert
2K-FA? (etc.)"

If you operate CW QSK, be aware the SPE uses relays which clack quite 
loudly.


73,   RoyK6XK


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Re: [Elecraft] SP3 ISSUE

[Mike VE3YF]

I received my pair of SP3's last week and I also had a problem, where I could 
get stereo but 1 spkr would always be weaker in audio than the other. I 
contacted Elecraft and they couldn't figure it out either. They were fully 
prepared to ship me an new set (Matched). Over the weekend I was doing some 
re-wiring of cabling and found that the original 4 cables that I was using were 
not up to par, could have been purchased offshore. I replaced the 4 cables with 
ones made in NA and the speakers worked perfectly.

So for anyone having speaker problems, definately check out the cables. In my 
case I didn't use the supplied cables as they were not long enough for my 
situation. But excellent support from Elecraft on wanting to ship me out a new 
set of speakers.

I also found that the original cables that I was using checked out ok with a 
meter, but once in the circuit they worked like crap.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/2K-FA int.

[Barry N1EU]

Thanks for posting this Roy.  Not one mention of the loud relay in 31
eHam reviews and it's something that obviously would bother some of us
(me) more than others.

73, Barry N1EU

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Roy Koeppe  wrote:
> " looking for input on how well the K3 will integrate with the SPE expert
> 2K-FA? (etc.)"
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> If you operate CW QSK, be aware the SPE uses relays which clack quite
> loudly.
>
> 73,   RoyK6XK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 integration with SPE Expert 2K-FA

[Bill OMara via Elecraft]

Well Rick, your assessment was exactly what I was look for.  I had plan to call 
SPE over the holidays to ask the questions that you provided the answers too.  
“How is it Amp truly handing the antennas during transmit”?

 

Well I guess our desire for a true SO2R 2KW solid state amp is still in future 
…. many Santa will develop one for us.

 

Maybe I’ll just transition to the SPE 1.3KW to get the extra power first and 
what for the true SO2R Amp.

 

Thanks for taking the time to provide your assessment to me and the reflector 
I’m sure others were interested as well.

 

73 Bill  W4RM

 

Please use   w...@aol.com as my primary account

 

From: rta...@gmail.com [mailto:rta...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rick Tavan
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:16 PM
To: Bill OMara 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 integration with SPE Expert 2K-FA

 

I've not used the SPE amps. Basic interfacing should be like any third-party 
amplifier. For full integration, a la KPA500, check the manual to see if it 
will decode band data or do RF-sensed band switching. If not, you'll have to 
switch amplifier bands manually. Maybe another responder will know.

 

You ask about SO2R and on that I do have some feedback on the SPE amps and it's 
important. I looked into SPE's claim to support SO2R with a single amp, 
something I've always fancied but never achieved. IMHO, the implementation is 
brain dead. The amps have two rig connection, six antenna connections, and a 
Rig 1/2 toggle input, which looks great on first glance. But the switching 
connects the non-transmit rig to a special, dedicated, receive-only antenna 
port labeled, ingenuously, "SO2R!" That means you can't receive on any antenna 
that is ever to be used to transmit. You effectively need a separate antenna 
for all reception on whichever radio is not transmitting and if it's not an 
all-band antenna, you need external switching among multiple, dedicated, 
receive antennas. Example: six monoband antennas connected to Ports 1-6 on the 
amp. You can transmit on Rig 1 or Rig 2 and the amp will automatically select 
the band-appropriate antenna and connect it to the transmitting rig. But it 
simultaneously and irrevocably connects the OTHER rig to the separate "SO2R" 
antenna port. Maybe you want to do all such receiving on an all-band vertical?

 

I couldn't believe this when I read it so I called the importer and they 
confirmed that cockamamie design. Of course, TWO Expert amps will work fine in 
SO2R like any other amps, one connected to each rig. Use external antenna 
switching via something like a Six Pak connected to the two amps' ANT1 
connectors. Pity, all that internal switching going unused. 

 

GL & 73,

 

/Rick N6XI

 

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Bill OMara via Elecraft 
 > wrote:

I looking for input on how well the K3 will integrate with the SPE expert
2K-FA?  I currently have the K3 integrated with the KPA-500 and the KAT-500
and I'm very happy with how they work together but I'm not happy with the
limited 500W output of the KPA-500.



So, I looking to understand how the K3 will integrate with the 2K-FA in a
single station set-up and in a SO2R set-up with two K3?



Thanks for your help.



73 Bill  W4RM



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/2K-FA int.

[Doug Turnbull]

Roy and Friends,
 You can get a vacuum relay for the SPE 2KFA which does not clack when
running QSK.   If running QSK this is no doubt what you want to do.

 I do not operate SO2R but have my K3, P3 and Expert 2K FA amplifier
fully integrated.   The amp switches on and off with the K3, it changes
bands with the K3 band switch and at the same time switches to the
appropriate antenna and it follows me on the band.   What more could you
want.   I do not use the ALC - this per advice from people whom I respect.


  One thing though, never use the Expert 2K FA into an antenna with SWR
close to 2:1 without the antenna tuner or you will have a very broad signal
on either CW or SSB.   The solution is simple use the antenna tuner.   I
learned this when using my SteppIR trombone for 30/40 on 30 meters.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Roy
Koeppe
Sent: 24 December 2015 13:03
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/2K-FA int.

" looking for input on how well the K3 will integrate with the SPE expert
2K-FA? (etc.)"

If you operate CW QSK, be aware the SPE uses relays which clack quite 
loudly.

73,   RoyK6XK


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 integration with SPE Expert 2K-FA

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> Maybe I’ll just transition to the SPE 1.3KW to get the extra power
> first and what for the true SO2R Amp.

Be careful ... the 1.3KW uses transistors rated for maybe 1000 W CW.
SPE's own IMD measurements were done at 800W and were marginal there!
I would certainly not trust the 1.3KW amp for full legal power or even
1300W SSB.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/24/2015 8:33 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:

Well Rick, your assessment was exactly what I was look for.  I had plan to call 
SPE over the holidays to ask the questions that you provided the answers too.  
“How is it Amp truly handing the antennas during transmit”?



Well I guess our desire for a true SO2R 2KW solid state amp is still in future 
…. many Santa will develop one for us.



Maybe I’ll just transition to the SPE 1.3KW to get the extra power first and 
what for the true SO2R Amp.



Thanks for taking the time to provide your assessment to me and the reflector 
I’m sure others were interested as well.



73 Bill  W4RM



Please use   w...@aol.com as my primary account



From: rta...@gmail.com [mailto:rta...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rick Tavan
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:16 PM
To: Bill OMara 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 integration with SPE Expert 2K-FA



I've not used the SPE amps. Basic interfacing should be like any third-party 
amplifier. For full integration, a la KPA500, check the manual to see if it 
will decode band data or do RF-sensed band switching. If not, you'll have to 
switch amplifier bands manually. Maybe another responder will know.



You ask about SO2R and on that I do have some feedback on the SPE amps and it's 
important. I looked into SPE's claim to support SO2R with a single amp, something I've 
always fancied but never achieved. IMHO, the implementation is brain dead. The amps have 
two rig connection, six antenna connections, and a Rig 1/2 toggle input, which looks 
great on first glance. But the switching connects the non-transmit rig to a special, 
dedicated, receive-only antenna port labeled, ingenuously, "SO2R!" That means 
you can't receive on any antenna that is ever to be used to transmit. You effectively 
need a separate antenna for all reception on whichever radio is not transmitting and if 
it's not an all-band antenna, you need external switching among multiple, dedicated, 
receive antennas. Example: six monoband antennas connected to Ports 1-6 on the amp. You 
can transmit on Rig 1 or Rig 2 and the amp will automatically select the band-appropriate 
antenna and connect it to the transmitting rig. But it

simultaneously and irrevocably connects the OTHER rig to the separate "SO2R" 
antenna port. Maybe you want to do all such receiving on an all-band vertical?




I couldn't believe this when I read it so I called the importer and they 
confirmed that cockamamie design. Of course, TWO Expert amps will work fine in 
SO2R like any other amps, one connected to each rig. Use external antenna 
switching via something like a Six Pak connected to the two amps' ANT1 
connectors. Pity, all that internal switching going unused.



GL & 73,



/Rick N6XI



On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Bill OMara via Elecraft  > wrote:

I looking for input on how well the K3 will integrate with the SPE expert
2K-FA?  I currently have the K3 integrated with the KPA-500 and the KAT-500
and I'm very happy with how they work together but I'm not happy with the
limited 500W output of the KPA-500.



So, I looking to understand how the K3 will integrate with the 2K-FA in a
single station set-up and in a SO2R set-up with two K3?



Thanks for your help.



73 Bill  W4RM



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio response, big roll off observed

[on4iq]

Problem solved.
Faulty Phone connection on back of rig. 
Line and speaker OK
Might need to replace the part on the PCB.

Johan



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[Mike VE3YF]

In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad and 
just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a couple 
guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.

While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like a 
Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.

Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to everyone.


73 De Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Please keep this discussion on the reflector...  I am also looking for
an external keypad for launching macros, that works with a P3, and a
computer in place as well...
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 14:43 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
> Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad 
> and just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a 
> couple guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.
> 
> While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
> this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like a 
> Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.
> 
> Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to 
> everyone.
> 
> 
> 73 De Mike
> VE3YF
> 
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[Elecraft] band settings start end

[will...@zendamateur.nl]

Hi all

 

I know i can set it, but cant fin dit :(

 

I like to change the end of 5 Mhz band, it is set 5.40300  or so and we in
holland use 5.450 as end, while playing with EZ i saw that its an more bands
diverend never noticed. .

 

IN EZ i seem to mis the last (UNDER ) PART OF THE SCREEN..

 

Dont know how to resend it back tot he K3

 

Regards William  PE1BSB

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