Re: [Elecraft] posting

[john]

Yes you can and did figure out how to post on this list.

John KK9A


Michael Kelly K3BFP
I though i was subscribed to the list. Can figure out how to post .  
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[Elecraft] posting

[Michael Kelly]

I though i was subscribed to the list. Can figure out how to post .  
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[Elecraft] posting to list

[john]

You're posting a message with no content.


Jack Donovan wrote:

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[Elecraft] Posting

[Dave]

This may be a duplication in the process.  The email you folks sent, stated, if 
I wanted to post, I needed to send a request to this email.

dave
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Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Ken Talbott]

If the rig has an unknown pedigree (passed through many flea market sales) 
omitting the last few digits helps prevent unpleasant knocks on the door from 
officers wishing to retrieve stolen property.
Ken ke4rg

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin - 
K4VD
Sent: December 18, 2016 16:13
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

?It might be that the first few numbers kind of indicates the series or age of 
the device. This seems common when selling many things. It probably isn't a 
secret.

I don't know what someone could do with the serial number of a radio but who 
knows these days. That and your date of birth might get all your bank accounts 
hacked. (just kidding)

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Don Wilhelm]

All,

The serial number of a transceiver offered for sale is an important 
parameter, and because the upgrade kits are offered by Elecraft, the 
state of those upgrades that have been installed is also important to 
the potential buyer.


The rig's serial number for For Sale listings is important to those 
considering the purchase of a used K2.  There was a change in the board 
layout to include the prior upgrades at serial number 3000.
If a K2 less than SN 3000 is being offered for sale, the status of the A 
to B upgrades and associated mods is a point of great interest.
The cost of the upgrade mod kits is about $160 (includes firmware), so 
that needs to be considered when contemplating the purchase of a used K2.


With all that being said, I need to say that a fully upgraded K2 will 
perform just as well as a newly built K2.  That goes for a used K3 as 
well, but the upgrades that have been done needs to be known.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2016 4:56 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:


On 12/18/2016 01:13 PM, Kevin - K4VD wrote:


I don't know what someone could do with the serial number of a radio but
who knows these days. That and your date of birth might get all your bank
accounts hacked. (just kidding)


It's probably not a good idea to use your rig's serial number as a
password to your on-line bank account.  :=)

Alan N1AL

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Alan Bloom]

On 12/18/2016 01:13 PM, Kevin - K4VD wrote:


I don't know what someone could do with the serial number of a radio but
who knows these days. That and your date of birth might get all your bank
accounts hacked. (just kidding)


It's probably not a good idea to use your rig's serial number as a 
password to your on-line bank account.  :=)


Alan N1AL

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Paul Van Dyke]

Alan, according to my memory at least on the KX2 and the KX3 it is the
serial number is build into the programming it's in the menu) I can't
remember if it is on the K3 but trying to change that seriall number would
be really rough

Paul ...KB9AVO

On Dec 18, 2016 2:14 PM, "Alan Bloom"  wrote:

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>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 For Sale
> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:10:36 -0500
> From: Joe Word 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> > For Sale  Serial number 36xx. ...
>
> I've noticed that people almost never list a full serial number when
> posting something for sale.  I'm curious why that is?  Is there some bad
> thing a nefarious person could do if they knew the serial number?
>
> Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Kevin - K4VD]

​It might be that the first few numbers kind of indicates the series or age
of the device. This seems common when selling many things. It probably
isn't a secret.

I don't know what someone could do with the serial number of a radio but
who knows these days. That and your date of birth might get all your bank
accounts hacked. (just kidding)

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Matt Zilmer]

Maybe they're not sure and don't wan to pull the rig out to take a look?

73,

matt W6NIA


On 12/18/2016 12:12 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 For Sale
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:10:36 -0500
From: Joe Word 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

> For Sale  Serial number 36xx. ...

I've noticed that people almost never list a full serial number when 
posting something for sale.  I'm curious why that is?  Is there some 
bad thing a nefarious person could do if they knew the serial number?


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[Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

[Alan Bloom]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 For Sale
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:10:36 -0500
From: Joe Word 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

> For Sale  Serial number 36xx. ...

I've noticed that people almost never list a full serial number when 
posting something for sale.  I'm curious why that is?  Is there some bad 
thing a nefarious person could do if they knew the serial number?


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[Chris Derr]

For Sale: Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500. Both are in excellent, mint, condition 
from a non-smoking environment. KPA500 - $1500; KAT500 - $400. Please contact 
me via email: derrch...@gmail.com.

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Re: [Elecraft] posting

[Lewis Phelps]

Vincent:

You seem not to understand the nature of this email reflector. Anything posted 
on this reflector can be viewed by anyone with access to the internet. This is 
stated clearly on the web page describing the reflector, 
http://www.elecraft.com/elist.html.  You will note a link to "Elecraft 
Searchable Daily Web Archive at nabble.com 
”  That puts ALL our emails onto the 
internet where anyone can read them. It’s the nature of the beast.

If you are concerned because your “personnel information” (presumably meaning 
your name and call sign)  is available through this forum, it is also listed  
on the FCC web site, since you are a licensed amateur radio operator. 

You have to be a member of the group to post messages, but anyone can read them.

73

Lew N6LEW



> On Feb 24, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Vincent Diak  wrote:
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> Dear Sir,
> Why is my personnel information being published from this web sight to the 
> internet open area for all to see? I thought this group was for elecraft not 
> the rest of the world. I found my name and e-mail address published and i did 
> not authorize my personnel info from this web sight to me made public for all 
> to see.
> Please let me know how this is happing.
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Re: [Elecraft] posting

[Jeremiah Peschka]

The mailman software being used archives the list for posterity and that
archive is made available online at
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/. The various search engines
index the archive on a regular basis.

It's always possible to use your ARRL email address instead so you can hide
your personal email address.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:11 PM Vincent Diak 
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> the internet open area for all to see? I thought this group was for
> elecraft not the rest of the world. I found my name and e-mail address
> published and i did not authorize my personnel info from this web sight to
> me made public for all to see.
>  Please let me know how this is happing.
>  Yours Truly, vincent diak wb2pdw
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[Vincent Diak]

Dear Sir,
 Why is my personnel information being published from this web sight to the 
internet open area for all to see? I thought this group was for elecraft not 
the rest of the world. I found my name and e-mail address published and i did 
not authorize my personnel info from this web sight to me made public for all 
to see.
 Please let me know how this is happing.
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Re: [Elecraft] Posting new Thread on Reglector

[Walter Underwood]

The KX3 DVR stores the message after TX EQ and compression have been applied. 
That makes it handy for evaluating levels of compression.

I wrote up some collected hints here:

http://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/
 


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> On Jan 23, 2016, at 9:39 AM, jkiracof...@charter.net wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   RE:  [Elecraft] KX3; Procedure for Setting TX CMP & TX EQ + DVR 
> 
>   I desire to utilize both CMP and TX EQ in SSB transmissions on a KX3.
> 
> 
>   In the KX3 Owners  Manual, there are well defined procedures for
> setting Mic Gain, CMP and TX EQ, but it leaves doubt as to which to
> set first as Mic Gain and CMP are grouped together with TX EQ
> described several pages later. This would imply TX EQ would be set
> last. 
> 
>   As TX EQ could effect overall audio amplitude peaks, it would seem
> that TX EQ should be set first then adjust Mic Gain for proper levels,
> then set CMP. 
> 
>   What is the Elecraft recommended procedure / order  for setting these
> three adjustments ? 
> 
>   My next questions involves storing and playing messages on the DVR
> where CMP and TX EQ are desired. 
> 
>   With Mic Gain, CMP and TX EQ set as desired for a CQ message for
> example, would the DVR store the message as processed with CMP and TX
> EQ active ? 
> 
>   Assume I leave the Mic Gain, CMP and TX EQ at the same setting when
> the DVR  CQ message was stored …  When playing the message back on
> the air, would the message be processed twice (CMP & TX EQ), once
> during recording and once during playback or just once ? 
> 
>   Feedback will be greatly appreciated. 
> 
>   John KN4XX 
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[jkiracofe51]

 

RE:  [Elecraft] KX3; Procedure for Setting TX CMP & TX EQ + DVR 

I desire to utilize both CMP and TX EQ in SSB transmissions on a KX3.


In the KX3 Owners  Manual, there are well defined procedures for
setting Mic Gain, CMP and TX EQ, but it leaves doubt as to which to
set first as Mic Gain and CMP are grouped together with TX EQ
described several pages later. This would imply TX EQ would be set
last. 

As TX EQ could effect overall audio amplitude peaks, it would seem
that TX EQ should be set first then adjust Mic Gain for proper levels,
then set CMP. 

What is the Elecraft recommended procedure / order  for setting these
three adjustments ? 

My next questions involves storing and playing messages on the DVR
where CMP and TX EQ are desired. 

With Mic Gain, CMP and TX EQ set as desired for a CQ message for
example, would the DVR store the message as processed with CMP and TX
EQ active ? 

Assume I leave the Mic Gain, CMP and TX EQ at the same setting when
the DVR  CQ message was stored …  When playing the message back on
the air, would the message be processed twice (CMP & TX EQ), once
during recording and once during playback or just once ? 

Feedback will be greatly appreciated. 

John KN4XX 

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[Robert S. McCuskey]

[ELECRAFT] F/S PHONEMA KSP3 SPEAKERS, matched pair designed for  Elecraft
K3, excellent sound,  in like new condition from non-smoking environment,
newer model includes optional tilt stand that matches K3 line as does the
height and color,  4 ohm,  30 watt,  82dB sensitivity, 100-20,000 Hz
frequency response.  Asking $195 for the pair shipped CONUS.  Please contact
me off list: w7bv at comcast dot net .  73, Bob W7BV

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting an ad for equipment for sale

[David Cole]

Thank you gents...  :)  

I was in contact with this person. I was unaware the post came for out
country.  You all probably just saved me a few bucks!  I would hope I
might have caught it, my last email was to ask where the radio was, so I
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On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 21:51 -0400, Gary Smith wrote:
 I thought this sounded fishy. Be aware this post came via the 
 Netherlands, IP 82.192.90.130 and Japan 180.42.37.37 Draw your own 
 conclusions.
 
 Gary
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  Sir, I am trying to sell some amateur radio gear for my father who 
 is moving and due to health reasons will be unable to keep his gear. 
 Here is the ad that I want to post. Are you able to post this for me? 
 I'm not sure if this is the right way to post ads in this forum so 
 please advise if I am in error. I joined the forum recently so I 
 could post this ad. Thank you. 
  Greg Weber. webhea...@earthlink.net 
  
  Experienced MARS and Ham radio operator needs to sell all gear. 
 Included in this package is a recently purchased ( about 2 years ago 
 for $3400 in Nov 2011 ) Elecraft K3-100 high performance 160 - 6 
 meter transceiver, MFJ Versa Tuner III model MFJ-962, MFJ Deluxe 
 Versa Tuner II model MFJ-949E, Elecraft P3 Panadapter, Kenwood 
 TS-440S transceiver, Kenwood R-2000 receiver, Astron RS-35M power 
 supply, and a 30 foot Antenna with tower assembly that separates into 
 sections for transport. Owner is a retired Navy Senior Chief Radioman 
 and a 20 plus year manager for Motorola who knows his stuff. Their 
 son is selling this for them and acting as their agent. Health 
 reasons and moving to a smaller place require this sale. We are 
 requesting $3000 for the Elecraft K3 plus Panadapter. Everything else 
 is negotiable but would sell the rest for about $750. 
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[Elecraft] Posting an ad for equipment for sale

[Gregory Weber]

Sir, I am trying to sell some amateur radio gear for my father who is moving 
and due to health reasons will be unable to keep his gear. Here is the ad that 
I want to post. Are you able to post this for me? I'm not sure if this is the 
right way to post ads in this forum so please advise if I am in error. I joined 
the forum recently so I could post this ad. Thank you. 
Greg Weber. webhea...@earthlink.net 

Experienced MARS and Ham radio operator needs to sell all gear. Included in 
this package is a recently purchased ( about 2 years ago for $3400 in Nov 2011 
) Elecraft K3-100 high performance 160 - 6 meter transceiver, MFJ Versa Tuner 
III model MFJ-962, MFJ Deluxe Versa Tuner II model MFJ-949E, Elecraft P3 
Panadapter, Kenwood TS-440S transceiver, Kenwood R-2000 receiver, Astron RS-35M 
power supply, and a 30 foot Antenna with tower assembly that separates into 
sections for transport. Owner is a retired Navy Senior Chief Radioman and a 20 
plus year manager for Motorola who knows his stuff. Their son is selling this 
for them and acting as their agent. Health reasons and moving to a smaller 
place require this sale. We are requesting $3000 for the Elecraft K3 plus 
Panadapter. Everything else is negotiable but would sell the rest for about 
$750. 
Contact Greg at navypilotg...@earthlink.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Posting an ad for equipment for sale

[Gary Smith]

I thought this sounded fishy. Be aware this post came via the 
Netherlands, IP 82.192.90.130 and Japan 180.42.37.37 Draw your own 
conclusions.

Gary
KA1J

 Sir, I am trying to sell some amateur radio gear for my father who 
is moving and due to health reasons will be unable to keep his gear. 
Here is the ad that I want to post. Are you able to post this for me? 
I'm not sure if this is the right way to post ads in this forum so 
please advise if I am in error. I joined the forum recently so I 
could post this ad. Thank you. 
 Greg Weber. webhea...@earthlink.net 
 
 Experienced MARS and Ham radio operator needs to sell all gear. 
Included in this package is a recently purchased ( about 2 years ago 
for $3400 in Nov 2011 ) Elecraft K3-100 high performance 160 - 6 
meter transceiver, MFJ Versa Tuner III model MFJ-962, MFJ Deluxe 
Versa Tuner II model MFJ-949E, Elecraft P3 Panadapter, Kenwood 
TS-440S transceiver, Kenwood R-2000 receiver, Astron RS-35M power 
supply, and a 30 foot Antenna with tower assembly that separates into 
sections for transport. Owner is a retired Navy Senior Chief Radioman 
and a 20 plus year manager for Motorola who knows his stuff. Their 
son is selling this for them and acting as their agent. Health 
reasons and moving to a smaller place require this sale. We are 
requesting $3000 for the Elecraft K3 plus Panadapter. Everything else 
is negotiable but would sell the rest for about $750. 
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[Ariel Jacala]

Photo at http://www.ny4g.blogspot.com

All Elecraft Station - KX3 driving a Hardrock50, and a K2/100.  Antenna is a 
ZS6BKW  as an inverted V at 50 ft at the apex, Antenna is resonant on 40, 20, 
17, 12, and 10 with SWR below 2:1, usable on 80m with an autotuner.  2nd 
antenna is am EFHW for 30 and 15m - low power under 100W using an EARCHI 
transformer.  Computer is a Toshiba laptop showing an NaP3 panadapter display 
of he KX3 I/Q.  Both radios capable of remote operation through Teamviewer.  
Canakit Relay Box turns on either computer remotely through the internat.  
Operations range from Milliwatt Sprints (NAQCC) to full legal limit DX chasing  
 Keys are Begali Simplex and and N3ZN single lever plus a Palm Pico on the KX3. 
 Computer interfaces through Signalink USB, KIO2, and KXUSB.  Shack is awaiting 
the arrival of a Palstar AT2K high power tuner for the Drake L4B with the 2 
3-500Z tubes capable of 1000W CW and 2000W SSB with 75 watts of drive

Ariel NY4G

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On Aug 4, 2013, at 10:28 PM, k3...@comcast.net wrote:

 I use one of the following antennas: 
 
 1. A home brew Carolina Windom for 40 up 35-40 feet. 
 2. An interlaced 40/20 meter delta loop, apex up, base ~6 feet over ground, 
 and fed at a corner 
 3. An 18' vertical with 2 9' radials fed at the vertical base which is ~15' 
 feet above ground. 
 
 My shack is too messy to be photographed at this time. 
 
 My Field Day operation is entirely different. I participate with a team of 
 others who also own KX3s, except one. our antennas consist of beams and 1/2 
 rhombics. The towers are AB-577 portables.These are not for the average home 
 shack. 
 
 73, 
 Barry 
 K3NDM 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 4:09:23 PM 
 Subject: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas. 
 
 I wouls like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used. 
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[Dominic Baines]

On 04/08/13 21:09, Richard Neese wrote:

I wouls like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used.
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Richard,

The KX3 is best used when not even in a shack and so that means lots of /P

http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/utlangan-eu-138.html
http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/qrv-from-eu-172-this-morning.html

You will find best antenna is one that is resonant and if you can get it 
right by the ocean you will be fine but you can also use alternatives 
with the internal tuner, we3dp, dipole, long wire, end fed wire, end fed 
half wave


72

Dom
M1KTA
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[Jim Sheldon]

All Elecraft station also - K3/P3/KPA500/KAT500 normally on the desk - KX3 for 
portable use and during power outages or (heaven forbid) if the K3 develops a 
problem (only once in 3 years and it was MY fault).  Antennas at the home QTH 
are a Cushcraft A3S tri-bander at 35 feet, nondescript homebrew fan dipole at 
35 feet for 40, 30 and 17 meters, ground mounted Butternut HF2V with loading 
coil for 160/80/40 (KAT500 tunes it on everything including 6 meters) and a 
quarter wave inverted L sloping upward from 30 to 50 feet on 160 meters.

Portable antennas consist of a PAR EndFedZ 40-20-10 wire, a homebrew take-apart 
vertical that breaks down to mostly 1 foot sections (MFJ 6' telescopic whip is 
a bit longer) and uses a buddi-pole coil and a 21 foot non-resonant vertical 
that's collapsible but still too long for convenient portable carry.  I use it 
mostly at hamfests when demonstrating the K3 and KX3.  

Station pix at www.qrz.com - (look up W0EB) and scroll down the page for the 
latest shack pix.

Jim - W0EB


 I would like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used.
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[jimk8mr]

 See page 10 and 11 of:


http://www.arrl.org/files/file/ContestResults/2013/2013-DXCW-Web1_1.pdf

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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[John Oppenheimer]

KX3 Cruise Ship portable:

http://www.kn5l.net/hp0/

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[Igor Sokolov]

http://www.cqham.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=17539page=76


73, Igor UA9CDC
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Neese kb3...@gmail.com

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:09 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.



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[Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[Richard Neese]

I wouls like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used.
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

[k3ndm]

I use one of the following antennas: 

1. A home brew Carolina Windom for 40 up 35-40 feet. 
2. An interlaced 40/20 meter delta loop, apex up, base ~6 feet over ground, and 
fed at a corner 
3. An 18' vertical with 2 9' radials fed at the vertical base which is ~15' 
feet above ground. 

My shack is too messy to be photographed at this time. 

My Field Day operation is entirely different. I participate with a team of 
others who also own KX3s, except one. our antennas consist of beams and 1/2 
rhombics. The towers are AB-577 portables.These are not for the average home 
shack. 

73, 
Barry 
K3NDM 

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From: Richard Neese kb3...@gmail.com 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 4:09:23 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas. 

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[Elecraft] ---posting

[Guess who ???]

Hi Gang:

Love my KX3here is my e-mail address for posting.
zebr...@netzero.nettnx...bill...w2zh

Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/51128266b3dca2645a20st04vuc
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Re: [Elecraft] ---posting

[tnnyswy]

Now WHY in Heavens name would I need your email address for posting?
Is this another phishing link?


(((73))) Milverton.






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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] ---posting
 
Hi Gang:

Love my KX3here is my e-mail address for posting.    
zebr...@netzero.net    tnx...bill...w2zh

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[Elecraft] posting directions

[Mike Goldstein]

Hello, Mailman:

Last time I wanted to post a message on the reflector (and I do it 
very seldom), I couldn't figure out how to do it!


I guess  you have to go to this options link, but the descriptor 
for the link doesn't mention posting, it just says 
...http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftTo subscribe to 
the list, or to change your subscription options (like set mail 
delivery to 'off'), click here for the Options page. 


No mention of going here to post a message!

Is there another way to do it?  Is the posting option a secret, 
like the specials on my favorite restaurant's repertoire, never 
shown on the menu, but always available for the asking?


It really should be quite obvious how to do it ... we are in the 
communications biz, aren't we?


73 and have a great holiday - Mike VE3GFN 
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Re: [Elecraft] posting directions

[Matt Zilmer]

You can reply to the list address, then edit your message in.  Or
directly address your email to elecraft@mailman.qth.net.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:51:23 -0500, you wrote:

Hello, Mailman:

Last time I wanted to post a message on the reflector (and I do it 
very seldom), I couldn't figure out how to do it!

I guess  you have to go to this options link, but the descriptor 
for the link doesn't mention posting, it just says 
...http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftTo subscribe to 
the list, or to change your subscription options (like set mail 
delivery to 'off'), click here for the Options page. 

No mention of going here to post a message!

Is there another way to do it?  Is the posting option a secret, 
like the specials on my favorite restaurant's repertoire, never 
shown on the menu, but always available for the asking?

It really should be quite obvious how to do it ... we are in the 
communications biz, aren't we?

73 and have a great holiday - Mike VE3GFN 
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[Elecraft] Posting test

[Ken Newman]

I have been unable to post the N2CQ QRP Calendar
on the QTH.net e-mail lists.  Testing this without the calendar text.
Ken Newman
Woodbury, NJ
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Re: [Elecraft] posting links

[David Woolley (E.L)]

However, if mail is not getting through because it contains full URLs I 
would suspect the real problem is a spam filter somewhere down the line, 
as URLs in email are a spam indicator.


Having seen a problem URL, it starts with an IP address, not a domain 
name; that is very typical of spammed URLs, so I would say it is almost 
certain that the mail is being spam filtered.


(Spammers are either hijacking a machine for which they don't know the 
domain name or are using a hosting service outside its terms of service, 
so want to make it difficult to trace the hoster and get the site closed 
down.)


Doing this with a dynamic IP address is probably even more likely to 
result in the mail being filtered.

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Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio

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Re: [Elecraft] posting links

[David Woolley]

Lyle Johnson wrote:
Enclose it in angle brackets with a prefix URL: and a space separating 
the brackets from the URL, like this:


 URL:http://www.elecraft.com 

This also prevents most email clients from breaking up the line as if it 
were text for long URLs.


The correct format for enclosing URLs in email is with no URL: and with 
no spaces within the angle brackets.  If you find you need the spaces it 
is probably to stop the sending email client from recognizing it as a 
URL (I think some strip the angle brackets in rich text and may forget 
to put them back in plain text).


However, if mail is not getting through because it contains full URLs I 
would suspect the real problem is a spam filter somewhere down the line, 
as URLs in email are a spam indicator.


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RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam,
that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work.
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Re: [Elecraft] posting links

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

and http://tinyurl.com/create.php

and  check out yousendit for files
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php
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On 14 Mar 2008, at 09:03, G4ILO wrote:




Lyle Johnson-6 wrote:


Enclose it in angle brackets with a prefix URL: and a space  
separating

the brackets from the URL, like this:

 URL:http://www.elecraft.com 

This also prevents most email clients from breaking up the line as  
if it

were text for long URLs.



You can use http://xaddr.com to create a shortcut to the link. Then  
you can
just post it like this: xaddr.com/2xr (which is a shortcut to the  
Elecraft
website. Just type that into the address bar to try it. You wouldn't  
really
need a shortcut to an address like elecraft.com, but I couldn't  
think of a

really long one to use as an example.)


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Re: [Elecraft] posting links

[G4ILO]

Lyle Johnson-6 wrote:
 
 Enclose it in angle brackets with a prefix URL: and a space separating 
 the brackets from the URL, like this:
 
  URL:http://www.elecraft.com 
 
 This also prevents most email clients from breaking up the line as if it 
 were text for long URLs.
 

You can use http://xaddr.com to create a shortcut to the link. Then you can
just post it like this: xaddr.com/2xr (which is a shortcut to the Elecraft
website. Just type that into the address bar to try it. You wouldn't really
need a shortcut to an address like elecraft.com, but I couldn't think of a
really long one to use as an example.)

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
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[Elecraft] posting links

[John]

The other day I tried to post a link to a picture I had taken of a 
problem in my K3. I tried several times to post the link in a mail, 
and each time it bounced. I found that if I left the http:/ off the 
front of the link, it wouldn't bounce. So, I posted the link without 
a http, and asked those interested to just copy the link into their 
browser.  I received emails saying that it would have been better if 
I'd posted the entire link, duh!


I must be doing something wrong because I see other complete links 
posted to the list. I ask for your help if anyone has any idea of 
what I may be doing wrong.


John
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Re: [Elecraft] posting links

[Lyle Johnson]

I must be doing something wrong because I see other complete links 
posted to the list. I ask for your help if anyone has any idea of what I 
may be doing wrong.


Enclose it in angle brackets with a prefix URL: and a space separating 
the brackets from the URL, like this:


 URL:http://www.elecraft.com 

This also prevents most email clients from breaking up the line as if it 
were text for long URLs.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] posting links

[Toby Deinhardt]

Hi Lyle  Co.

Enclose it in angle brackets with a prefix URL: and a space separating 
the brackets from the URL, like this:


 URL:http://www.elecraft.com 

This also prevents most email clients from breaking up the line as if it 
were text for long URLs.


Almost.

No spaces, imho!

http://www.ThisIsAVeryLongURL.com/With/A/Long/Path/TheQuickBrown?FoxJumpsOverTheLazy=DogWithoutSpacesThisShouldNotBreakLines 
and not  URL:http://www.elecraft.com 


vy 73 de toby
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Re: [Elecraft] posting style

[Julian G4ILO]

On 6/29/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I wish people would understand that hitting reply on a message
in order to pick up the list address is not the correct way to start
a new thread.


Hitting reply here addresses the reply to the sender of the posting
I'm replying to, not the list, which is a real pain as I'm getting too
old and stupid to always remember to change the recipient to
elecraft@mailman.qth.net before hitting send.

By the way, Charles' posting showed up as a new thread for me.

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RE: [Elecraft] posting style

[KJ3D]

 OK,

I've had this problem since joining the reflector.

I just sent a test message to:

elecraft@mailman.qth.net

The message was promptly returned to my inbox with the following notation:

QUOTE

A message (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) was received at 29 Jun 2007 15:11:03
+.

The following addresses had delivery problems:

elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Permanent Failure: Other address status
Delivery last attempted at Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:11:03 -

END QUOTE

I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to get a message to the list WITHOUT
using the reply button on someone else's post (as I did with this message).
I know that creates a nesting problem, but don't know how to fix it.

Please tell me the single, correct address to send messages to the
reflector, and I will use it.

Thanks es 73

Tom, KJ3D
K2/100 4991

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Re: [Elecraft] posting style

[Ian Stirling]

On Friday 29 June 2007 03:29:18 Julian G4ILO wrote:

 Hitting reply here addresses the reply to the sender of the posting
 I'm replying to, not the list, which is a real pain as I'm getting too
 old and stupid to always remember to change the recipient to
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net before hitting send.
 
 By the way, Charles' posting showed up as a new thread for me.

  I do not have a reply-to field in my headers,
so I suspect strongly that the destination of your
reply is determined by your email software setting,
nothing to do with my settings.  Supporting this
notion, when I reply to my own posting, the
destination is to the list, not to me. And replying
to certain members' posts, the destinations are their
personal addresses because they have a reply-to in
their headers, a function of their software settings.
  Sounds like you aren't displaying threads because
Charles's header clearly contains,
  In-Reply-To: [Don's message ID]
 You are probably displaying the messages in subject
order, not threads.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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RE: [Elecraft] posting style

[KJ3D]

Well, Well...

That did it!  I thought all my email was in text, but apparently not.

Thanks,

Tom 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:34 AM
To: 'KJ3D'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] posting style

Tom,

Not sure if this is the same problem I had or not, but make sure your email
editor is set for text only for submitting to the list. I had mine defaulted
to HTML and any time I composed a new message and submitted it to the list,
it was rejected. Although, I think I got a message stating so.

If you reply to the list, the email editor defaults to whatever the
originating post was composed with, which is why replies worked for me and
not new submittals.

73,
Dave
W8FGU

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KJ3D
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] posting style
 
  OK,
 
 I've had this problem since joining the reflector.
 
 I just sent a test message to:
 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 The message was promptly returned to my inbox with the following notation:
 
 QUOTE
 
 A message (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) was received at 29 Jun 2007 
 15:11:03
 +.
 
 The following addresses had delivery problems:
 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Permanent Failure: Other address status
   Delivery last attempted at Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:11:03 -
 
 END QUOTE
 
 I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to get a message to the list 
 WITHOUT using the reply button on someone else's post (as I did with 
 this message).
 I know that creates a nesting problem, but don't know how to fix it.
 
 Please tell me the single, correct address to send messages to the 
 reflector, and I will use it.
 
 Thanks es 73
 
 Tom, KJ3D
 K2/100 4991
 
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Re: [Elecraft] posting style

[Julian G4ILO]

On 6/29/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I do not have a reply-to field in my headers,
so I suspect strongly that the destination of your
reply is determined by your email software setting,
nothing to do with my settings.  Supporting this
notion, when I reply to my own posting, the
destination is to the list, not to me. And replying
to certain members' posts, the destinations are their
personal addresses because they have a reply-to in
their headers, a function of their software settings.
  Sounds like you aren't displaying threads because
Charles's header clearly contains,
  In-Reply-To: [Don's message ID]
 You are probably displaying the messages in subject
order, not threads.



Your message to me has the headers:

From: Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

The only way I can get a reply to go to the list is to select Reply
All, which is hidden in a menu. Then a reply goes to the sender and a
separate Cc to the list. You'll probably get two copies of this. :) If
anyone knows how to make Reply All the default option in GMail I'd be
extremely grateful.

GMail does display messages in threads, which is one reason why it is
a very good way to read this list. I can see the In-Reply-To:, but
GMail is obviously clever enough to know that despite that, if the
subject header changes it is probably a new topic.

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Re: [Elecraft] posting style

[Brian Mury]

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 17:05 +0100, Julian G4ILO wrote:
 The only way I can get a reply to go to the list is to select Reply
 All, which is hidden in a menu.

That's gmail's fault for not providing a reply to list option. You
could send them a feature request (I believe there is an online form for
doing this), but I haven't found them very responsive in the past. Maybe
they just don't like my feature requests! ;-)

 GMail does display messages in threads, which is one reason why it is
 a very good way to read this list.

Well, it groups them together into what gmail calls conversations.
This is not quite the same as a threading email reader which displays
them in a hierarchical tree - and not as useful either.

  I can see the In-Reply-To:, but
 GMail is obviously clever enough to know that despite that, if the
 subject header changes it is probably a new topic.

Incorrect (and non-standard) behaviour for a mail client. Threads often
drift slowly over time, and eventually someone changes the subject line;
or often people will change the subject line to be more specific to
their own post which is still about the same topic. I would not want my
mail reader displaying these as new threads.


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Re: [Elecraft] posting style

[AJSOENKE]

Also, any AOL users who don't already know, the default reply mode is HTML.  
To defeat this and reply in plain text, right click the mouse cursor in the 
text  window (but not on the text) and select the menu item at bottom of list 
Compose  in Plain  Text. Works for  v9.x, haven't tried older versions.   
This 
needs to be done for each new session, but usually only first response. 
 
Al WA6VNN
 



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[Elecraft] posting style

[Charles Harpole]

Please, no offense meant, but could Elecraft posters please put the model 
name of the subject of your post in the subject line of the message?


Much as I should love the K2, I really would rather read only the K3 
posts... and a notation in the subject line would let me go to K3 stuff 
only.


A big thank you to one and all.. 73

Charles HarpoleHS0ZCW
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Re: [Elecraft] posting style

[Ian Stirling]

On Friday 29 June 2007 00:45:44 Charles Harpole wrote:
 Please, no offense meant, but could Elecraft posters please put the model 
 name of the subject of your post in the subject line of the message?

  I wish people would understand that hitting reply on a message
in order to pick up the list address is not the correct way to start
a new thread.
 Charles, your intended top level, new thread, is nested two deep
in the KAT100 thread started by Scott.
 
 Hitting reply and changing the subject does not start a new thread.
Threads, (references in the usually invisible headers), are a way to
allow changing subjects as topics change and still link to the origins.

  Hitting reply within a thread with an unrelated topic is not only
bad netiquette, the sender risks those bored with the thread won't
even see it because they don't open the possibly uninteresting thread
below which it was posted.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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[Elecraft] Posting test de K0PP

[Ken Kopp]

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[Elecraft] Re: Your (Elecraft) posting 10 meter replies

[Robert C. Abell]

Martin,
When are you going to get an Elecraft K2 ?
73, Bob  VE3XM
K2's S/N 04031  04575
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[Elecraft] Posting on the Reflector Problems.

[BILL COCHRAN]

I know this is off topic, but I am having problems with my yahoo email account. 
Every time I want to post to the Reflector, Outlook Express opens instead of 
Yahoo. I am eager to start learning about my new K2 rig, but I cant post 
through my Yahoo email. I hope someone can help with this. Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] spam reply to my elecraft posting

[Mike Morrow]

A few minutes after I posted, via your email address, a reply to a
news group topic I received the following email. Note that my post
hasn't yet appeared in the newsgroup list - so I'm guessing this came
directly from something between me and you. I translated the Dutch
but it doesn't make sense - unless some kind of spam  is attached to
your incoming email.


Relax!  There's no need to be paranoid about a simple mistake made by a
fellow on vacation.  It's not spam.

If you had indeed translated the Dutch (which does make sense), then you
know that what you got was an automated out of office for vacation type
reply that some configure their office e-mail system to send whenever an
e-mail arrives while they are away, as apparently Andre Koopman has done.

Sometimes people forget that e-mails from any lists to which they subscribed
will trigger this response.  Sometimes a list will even repeat it as a new
posting.  Fortunately, because only the original poster's email address
shows up in the From line in Elecraft list postings, only the poster gets
the automated reply.

A very minor inconvenience, IMHO.

Mike / KK5F

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[Elecraft] spam reply to my elecraft posting

[designer]

Elecraft mailman,
A few minutes after I posted, via your email address, a reply to a 
news group topic I received the following email. Note that my post 
hasn't yet appeared in the newsgroup list - so I'm guessing this came 
directly from something between me and you. I translated the Dutch 
but it doesn't make sense - unless some kind of spam  is attached to 
your incoming email.


I'll be curious as to what you find out.
73,
Paul
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Graag voor dringende zaken bellen met 0318 698698
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Re: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[Bill Coleman]

On Apr 1, 2005, at 2:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Because of a missing posting? You've got to be kidding.


Currently, NONE of my postings are showing up. This is because the 
Elecraft list is using SORBS, who has decided to list BellSouth.net as 
a spammer's den.


I've been on the Elecraft list for several years now, but now I'm cut 
off with no warning. I've mailed Eric a few times, but he hasn't yet 
replied.



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Re: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[Vic Rosenthal]

Julian, G4ILO wrote:

The periodic requests for an alternative Elecraft forum come from people 
with a genuine desire to be able to participate in an interactive 
discussion about the Elecraft issues that concern them without their 
mailbox filling up with postings that are of no interest to them (which 
for some, unfortunately, will include this one.) Their wishes have been 
repeatedly ignored. 


No, actually they have not been ignored.  Judging by responses from Elecraft 
personnel, they have been taken seriously.  They have, however, been turned 
down, in my opinion for very good reason (which I won't repeat at this point).


It is up to Elecraft to decide how they will support their products, and this is 
what they've done -- quite effectively, too.



 this relector with all of its
acknowledged shortcomings 


I have been a member of many mailing lists for I don't know how many years, and 
I find that this one runs quite smoothly with just enough application of control 
by the moderator to keep it on track.  In fact, it is probably the best forum of 
its type that I've encountered, period.


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[Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[john . brewer]

From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have no idea why my reply to another posting looked like spam, but
there is no excuse for some brain-dead piece of software rejecting posts
to a members-only ...

Wow!

With all due respect, it sounds like it's a good time to take a walk around the 
block.

I don't think Elecraft ever said anything about guaranteeing the performance of 
the mailing
list, or that there's any obligation for them to even READ the mailing list. I 
think pounding
ones shoe on the table because one posting didn't show up, is a completely 
unreasonable
justification for starting another mailing list (which assureadly will have the 
exact same
chance of rejecting a posting) and certainly not something Elecraft is 
responsible for.

I dare say my comment is no great loss to the group, but perhaps there
is some merit in the idea of setting up an alternative list, after all.

Because of a missing posting? You've got to be kidding.

Respectfully,

John K5MO



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RE: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[John {N5BSD}]

 
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I must sound my 2 cents on this.
The mailing list is hosted on a sever that Elecraft does not control.
Therefore they do not have the final say so on spam filtering of said
server.
I have had several mailing list post binned by my pop host because of
spam filtering, but got it
Worked out and everything is fine now.
So raising an uproar and talking about setting up an alternate list
is a bit much.
But if you feel so spited that you must continue ranting about the
quality of missing one post
Then you could try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elecraft/
Probably will not have the same quality and quantity of people there
(much larger base already on this list)
But this is a free choice list and NET so do as you will.

As for me, a post goes elsewhere, doesn't get posted, sorted to SPAM,
or even gets lost completely, well that
Can happen on this wonderful collection of hardware we call the
Internet.

My advice, take a few breathes, come down from your high horse and
realize, this is just a hobby and your post probably
Wasn't the end all beat all post of the century. Try to repost if you
wish and move along your merry way.

Well enough from my spleen
And I think I went over 2 cents as well HI HI

As for me, this reflector is a wonderful place to have any and all
questions I have had answered, even before I need to ask them
As the case is most times (plus a great back reference when you have
such a LARGE archive as I have here, or if I must the List Archive on
the net)

Eric, Wayne and the gang at Elecraft do a wonderful job providing us
with great radios and accessories, and do a bang-up job here on the
reflector as well answering questions and what not.

Do keep up the great work guys



73
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Subject: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have no idea why my reply to another posting looked like spam, but
 there is no excuse for some brain-dead piece of software rejecting 
posts to a members-only ...

Wow!

With all due respect, it sounds like it's a good time to take a walk
around the block.

I don't think Elecraft ever said anything about guaranteeing the
performance of the mailing list, or that there's any obligation for
them to even READ the mailing list. I think pounding ones shoe on the
table because one posting didn't show up, is a completely
unreasonable justification for starting another mailing list (which
assureadly will have the exact same chance of rejecting a posting)
and certainly not something Elecraft is responsible for.

I dare say my comment is no great loss to the group, but perhaps
there  is some merit in the idea of setting up an alternative list,
after all.  

Because of a missing posting? You've got to be kidding.

Respectfully,

John K5MO

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[Kevin Rock]

A few of my net reports have been kicked out of the system.  There are 
certain words which one should not use since they appear Spam like.  The 
one both Julian and I used which is on the list is buy.  I asked Eric 
about the list so I could avoid using the proscribed words but he told me 
he did not have access to it.  The list is further up the chain than him.  
Once I reworded my sentence to avoid the word buy the net report went 
through just fine.

   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

P.S.  Buy needs to be in association with some other word (which I have 
forgotten).

   KJR




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From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]




I have no idea why my reply to another posting looked like spam, but
there is no excuse for some brain-dead piece of software rejecting posts
to a members-only ...


Wow!

With all due respect, it sounds like it's a good time to take a walk 
around the block.


I don't think Elecraft ever said anything about guaranteeing the 
performance of the mailing
list, or that there's any obligation for them to even READ the mailing 
list. I think pounding
ones shoe on the table because one posting didn't show up, is a 
completely unreasonable
justification for starting another mailing list (which assureadly will 
have the exact same
chance of rejecting a posting) and certainly not something Elecraft is 
responsible for.



I dare say my comment is no great loss to the group, but perhaps there
is some merit in the idea of setting up an alternative list, after all.


Because of a missing posting? You've got to be kidding.

Respectfully,

John K5MO



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Re: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[Thom R. Lacosta]

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Kevin Rock wrote:



P.S.  Buy needs to be in association with some other word (which I have 
forgotten).

  KJR


It's the place where prices for Ham gear have risen through the roof.

There, they don't beg for funds and offer door prizes...it's very, very
commercial.

73,Thom-k3hrn
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Re: [Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life- END of Thread

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Guys - Let's kill this thread now. It was dealt with and explained more than a 
day ago via private email between us and we're all happy :-)


Must be a night for Long Delayed Echoes...

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
Elecraft list manager

John {N5BSD} wrote:
 
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I must sound my 2 cents on this.
The mailing list is hosted on a sever that Elecraft does not control.
Therefore they do not have the final say so on spam filtering of said


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Re: [Elecraft] Posting

[Thomas Beaudry]

As the gentleman said.  Netiquette (Internet etiquette) specifies that 
you quote the minimum necessary for your reply to be understood.  Not 
everyone has unlimited 'Net access for a fixed price.  When I'm in YS, 
I have to pay the ISP both for the bytes downloaded and the time 
connected.  Add to that the phone company charges me by the minute.  It 
gets expensive fast.


Another hint:  Make the first line of your signature --  (two dashes 
and a space).  This is the standard for indicating the start of a 
signature and some email clients can handle them differently than the 
rest of the message.



Let me suggest that when responding to a specific
email that you take a minute to edit YOUR reply.


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Re: [Elecraft] Posting

[W3FPR - Don Wilhelm]

Brian,

Netiquette or not, I prefer to read responses that have the new text on 
top - the subject and my memory (I do read most all the posts on this 
reflector) are usually sufficient to tell me what I need to know about the 
prior information.  Scrolling down to find the latest response is a waste of 
time IMHO.  In a few cases, such as when the original poster asks several 
questions, the most expediant thing to do is put the answer to each part in 
line with the question - but that is not the normal case.  For my part, 
please put your response at the beginning. (and yes, do strip out as much of 
the extra stuff as is reasonable - the person you are responding to knows 
what he asked).


73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 


Netiquette also says you shouldn't top post - which is posting your
reply above the quoted text. It can get confusing when there are replies
nessted several layers deep.

A: Because we read from top to bottom.
Q: Why not top post?





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Re: [Elecraft] Posting

[Phil Wheeler]

Of course, one advantage of bottom posting (not my preference, BTW) is 
that the trailing sponsor msgs get seen and deleted.


73, Phil

George, W5YR wrote:


AMEN!!

73, George W5YR
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- Original Message - 
From: W3FPR - Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Brian Mury [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Posting


 


Brian,

Netiquette or not, I prefer to read responses that have the new text on
top - the subject and my memory (I do read most all the posts on this
reflector) are usually sufficient to tell me what I need to know about the
prior information.  Scrolling down to find the latest response is a waste
   


of
 


time IMHO.  In a few cases, such as when the original poster asks several
questions, the most expediant thing to do is put the answer to each part
   


in
 


line with the question - but that is not the normal case.  For my part,
please put your response at the beginning. (and yes, do strip out as much
   


of
 


the extra stuff as is reasonable - the person you are responding to knows
what he asked).

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 

   


Netiquette also says you shouldn't top post - which is posting your
reply above the quoted text. It can get confusing when there are replies
nessted several layers deep.

A: Because we read from top to bottom.
Q: Why not top post?

 

 

 




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Re: [Elecraft] Posting

[Brian Mury]

On Sat, 2004-27-11 at 19:27 -0500, W3FPR - Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Netiquette or not, I prefer to read responses that have the new text on 
 top

Etiquette or not, I prefer to pick my nose in expensive restaurants -
but I don't, because that's how society works, and like it or not, I'm a
part of that society. It's the same reason I don't say 10-4 good
buddy! on ham radio.

 the subject and my memory are usually sufficient to tell me what I need
 to know about the prior information.

I receive anywhere from 500 to 1000 emails a day. The subject and my
memory are often not sufficient. A *short, trimmed* quote above the new
comments does a very good job of putting things in context.

This is especially true in an active discussion, where there are lots of
replies, and replies to replies, etc. It can quickly become very
confusing to know exactly who and what someone is replying to if they
top post.

  Scrolling down to find the latest response is a waste of time IMHO. 

Scrolling down (having to search for the right spot), then reading
downwards, then scrolling back up a bit (having to search for the right
spot again), and reading downwards again, then scrolling back up a bit
(having to search for the right spot), and reading downwards, etc... is
a bigger waste of time, not to mention being a pain.

 For my part, please put your response at  the beginning.

Sorry, I will continue to bottom post - as I should.

-- 
73, Brian
VE7NGR

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Re: [Elecraft] Posting

[JessMX5]

Can I be impolite and top post that this is enough of this?

Jess
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Mury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Posting



On Sat, 2004-27-11 at 19:27 -0500, W3FPR - Don Wilhelm wrote:

Netiquette or not, I prefer to read responses that have the new text on
top


Etiquette or not, I prefer to pick my nose in expensive restaurants -
but I don't, because that's how society works, and like it or not, I'm a
part of that society. It's the same reason I don't say 10-4 good
buddy! on ham radio.


the subject and my memory are usually sufficient to tell me what I need
to know about the prior information.


I receive anywhere from 500 to 1000 emails a day. The subject and my
memory are often not sufficient. A *short, trimmed* quote above the new
comments does a very good job of putting things in context.

This is especially true in an active discussion, where there are lots of
replies, and replies to replies, etc. It can quickly become very
confusing to know exactly who and what someone is replying to if they
top post.


 Scrolling down to find the latest response is a waste of time IMHO.


Scrolling down (having to search for the right spot), then reading
downwards, then scrolling back up a bit (having to search for the right
spot again), and reading downwards again, then scrolling back up a bit
(having to search for the right spot), and reading downwards, etc... is
a bigger waste of time, not to mention being a pain.


For my part, please put your response at  the beginning.


Sorry, I will continue to bottom post - as I should.

--
73, Brian
VE7NGR

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