Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> > It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to
> > make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old disk is
> > /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command should
> > work:
> >
> > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> >
> I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why this is 
> better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I tried to copy 
> a whole directory to a new partition I had some problems before I got 
> it right, so I want to be clear before I start.
> 
> > Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot.  As I
> > said it has been a while and may have the basic command a little
> > off.  But the original (noisy) drive will still be in working
> > order.
> >
> > If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton Ghost will
> > also work.
> >
> This is really a much better way, but I don't have the latest Norton 
> Ghost.  My Drive Image is not the latest, either.  Is there not a 
> linux tool that tackles it in a similar way, rather than just copying 
> files?
> 
> Anne

partimage you do have that one. It's only a urpmi away.

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Re: [expert] Anyone get flash player 6 working under mandrake 9.2?

2003-11-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 22:33, Vincent Chen wrote:
> Hi, all
> 
> I downloaded flash player 6 from macromedia download
> site and install it on mandrake 9.2. It used to work
> on mandrake 9.0 with mozilla 1.1 but not 9.2 with
> mozilla 1.4. Anyone get this work?
> 
> 
> Thanks,

Make sure it didn't put the libs in either /usr/lib/netscape/plugin or
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/  Had that happen to me and had to move the
files it created to the right place.

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Re: [expert] vga resolution on text mode?

2003-11-10 Thread Artemio
You have to set a vga=xxx string in lilo.conf.

Lets' asuume you have a lilo.conf like this:


boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
default="linux"


image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux"
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5"
read-only
vga=7xx 
^^^
   this is your vga mode


You have to set it to vga=791 in order to have a 1024x768 color console. You 
can set this vga=791 string per kernel image, or for all kernel images - then 
include this line at the top of lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda
vga=791
...


Then just say "lilo" as root and reboot to see your new beautiful console :-P

Read the "Framebuffer-HOWTO" if you want another (non-1024x768 or with 
16/256/etc colors) vga mode.


Good luck!


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Re: [expert] Problems grabbing Standard Audio Input (was 9.2 and Gramofile)

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:03 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > Well a reboot saved the day along with killing off artsd that
> > > is holding on to /dev/dsp too hard.
> >
> > Have you tried kickarts?
>
> I did, but under 9.1 kickarts was not necessary, as if nothing was
> needing arts, it would drop the connection automagically.
>
Interesting.  I couldn't get anywhere with my attempts at recording 
until I used kickarts (under 9.1)

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 10:02 pm, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:50:07 +
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic 
parchment:
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> > > It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to
> > > make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old disk
> > > is /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command
> > > should work:
> > >
> > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> >
> > I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why
> > this is better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I
> > tried to copy a whole directory to a new partition I had some
> > problems before I got it right, so I want to be clear before I
> > start.
> >
> > > Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot.  As
> > > I said it has been a while and may have the basic command a
> > > little off.  But the original (noisy) drive will still be in
> > > working order.
> > >
> > > If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton Ghost
> > > will also work.
> >
> > This is really a much better way, but I don't have the latest
> > Norton Ghost.  My Drive Image is not the latest, either.  Is
> > there not a linux tool that tackles it in a similar way, rather
> > than just copying files?
>
> Partition Image at http://www.partimage.org, they have a rescue cd
> iso image that I use as a backup.  I make the backups to another
> drive, and then burn them to cd.
>
I'll look into that one.  Thanks, Tim

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:24 am, Felix Miata wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> > > It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to
> > > make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old disk
> > > is /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command
> > > should work:
> > >
> > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> >
> > I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why
> > this is better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I
> > tried to copy a whole directory to a new partition I had some
> > problems before I got it right, so I want to be clear before I
> > start.
>
> AFAIK, cp can only copy files from a mounted partition to a mounted
> partition. dd can copy anything anywhere that there exist sectors
> to read & write. The example above should copy the MBR and
> partition tables, as well as all files on all partitions.
>
That sounds good.  But how do I handle the various partitions?  Do I 
partition the new drive first?  And format them?

> > > Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot.  As
> > > I said it has been a while and may have the basic command a
> > > little off.  But the original (noisy) drive will still be in
> > > working order.
> > >
> > > If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton Ghost
> > > will also work.
> >
> > This is really a much better way, but I don't have the latest
> > Norton Ghost.  My Drive Image is not the latest, either.  Is
> > there not a linux tool that tackles it in a similar way, rather
> > than just copying files?
>
> dd is probably all anyone on Linux needs, but doesn't have menus
> and a pretty face. 

I can live with that, providing I know just what is going to happen.  
As always, documentation is the life-saver for me.

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 7:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
>
> partimage you do have that one. It's only a urpmi away.
>
Fine.  Is it well documented?

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[expert] New RPM's

2003-11-10 Thread Angel of Death
I recently made some rpm's for the latest tinyfugue and gftp from 
src.rpm for Mandrake 9.5 i586.

Seems kinda stupid not to offer to share them, so anyone want them? Or 
can anyone point me to a site I can send them to?

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Re: [expert] New RPM's

2003-11-10 Thread Artemio
Angel of Death wrote:
> I recently made some rpm's for the latest tinyfugue and gftp from
> src.rpm for Mandrake 9.5 i586.

Hmmm... the gtfp that was supplied with 9.2 was buggy and so I took 2.0.11 
from redhat 7.3. The bug was that it couldn't list local and remote 
directories - it seemed to receive the list but didn't show it up until you 
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Re: [expert] New RPM's

2003-11-10 Thread Angel of Death
Artemio wrote:
Angel of Death wrote:

I recently made some rpm's for the latest tinyfugue and gftp from
src.rpm for Mandrake 9.5 i586.
   ^^^
Either I came back in time.. or made a typo. I leave it to you all to 
decide. (I meant Mdk 9.2)

Hmmm... the gtfp that was supplied with 9.2 was buggy and so I took 2.0.11 
from redhat 7.3. The bug was that it couldn't list local and remote 
directories - it seemed to receive the list but didn't show it up until you 
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Re: [expert] Draksync with subdirs

2003-11-10 Thread t_gecks
Another great sync tool to mention would be unison in my eyes. I've 
tried several and this has come out as the best for my needs, it 
synchronizes in both directions, presents you a list of what to do which 
you can edit and has the ability to sync over ssh, rsh and ftp or 
locally. It exists in a Windows version, too.

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[expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

> James, under Mdk I run POPFile
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/PopFile If you haven't looked
> at it, you should.  I understand it is cross-platform, and I am going to
> try it on a windows box as soon as I can.  Certainly under linux it is
> extremely simple both to install and to train/run.  It achieves better
> thn 99% accuracy all the time.

Anne, I was interested in updating the link on this page to point to the 
current version of popfile, and I noticed that there appears to be no way 
to log myself in; it insists that I am "TwikiGuest", and I was unable to 
find any way to convince it otherwise ... what am I missing here?

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Re: [expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 8:44 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > James, under Mdk I run POPFile
> > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/PopFile If you haven't
> > looked at it, you should.  I understand it is cross-platform, and
> > I am going to try it on a windows box as soon as I can. 
> > Certainly under linux it is extremely simple both to install and
> > to train/run.  It achieves better thn 99% accuracy all the time.
>
> Anne, I was interested in updating the link on this page to point
> to the current version of popfile, and I noticed that there appears
> to be no way to log myself in; it insists that I am "TwikiGuest",
> and I was unable to find any way to convince it otherwise ... what
> am I missing here?

Don't know, Bill.  I presume you hit Edit, signed in as BillMullen, 
and are completely certain of your password?  If so, I'll have to try 
to find out how we can change your password for you.

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Felix Miata
Anne Wilson wrote:
 
> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:24 am, Felix Miata wrote:

> > Anne Wilson wrote:

> > > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:

> > > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb

> > dd can copy anything anywhere that there exist sectors
> > to read & write. The example above should copy the MBR and
> > partition tables, as well as all files on all partitions.

> That sounds good.  But how do I handle the various partitions?  Do I
> partition the new drive first?  And format them?

That command copies all sectors, including partition table sectors, like
when you do 'dd if=somefloppyimage of=/dev/fd0' to create an
installation diskette. AFAIK, it's exactly what the very first Ghost or
Partition Image versions would have done.
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[expert] Re: Publishing text

2003-11-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:56:53PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> I don't know what this means.  I write a paragraph in OO, in Lyx, and in 
> Abiword.  Same paragraph.  I then print it.  It looks identical regardless of 
> what I used to generate it.  The text is whatever quality the printer can 
> produce.  There is nothing magic about latex/lyx output to printer. 

Up until now, in most cases I *could* see differences. Small ones,
granted, but thigs like "fl" and similar combinations (forgot the
proper typograhic name for it) almost always look better with LaTeX,
asit does them typographically correct. That's something WYSIWYG
programs traditionally had a very hard time with (and still have) and
the LaTeX output almost always looks just that tad more professional.

Further, the printout always looks the same with LaTeX, independent of
the printer (other than plain resolution issues - it will look a bit
more coarse on a 300dpi than on a 1200dpi). Formatting will be the
same, the same chapter will be on the same page, things like that -
and that's exactly where I've always had major headaches with all
WYSIWYG's I've used. Change the printer and things begin to move
(especially with Word). And then I haven't even talked about
mathematical formulas, something where LaTeX *really* shines.
That's one of the reasons why it's still widely used in research
circles.


[...]
> from which the figure was first referred to.   In something like Word, 
> wordperfect, OO, Abiword, etc, I KNOW where page breaks are and will be.  
> What you see is exactly what you get.
[...]

Within limits - I've seen this break too often to trust it...


> printer).  This is HELL when you are trying to add graphics the page after 
> the first reference in the text.
[...]

I always added my graphics inline after the first reference by simply
adding the corresponding "include" (that's not the reight word, but you
know what I mean) after the first time I referred to it. And then it got
placed after the first reference without me having to know anything
about page breaks. I've hardly ever had to add page breaks manually in
LaTeX - something which I have to worry about in almost every single
document in WYSIWYG's. Every now and then LaTeX and I would disagree
over the placing of an inline graphic, but even that was rare. It
*can* be daunting to convince LaTeX to do something different from
what it has been taugh, though, I give you that.
Also, I've never actually used LyX for documents - I always just typed
away in XEmacs (which has an excellent LaTeX mode), just like I do for
HTML (in fact, often I use both in very similar ways).


[...]
> Many words are not properly hyphenated in lyx.  All too often you have set 
> your right margin to be just right.
[...]

Strange. I never ever had an issue with that in plain LaTeX. Quite the
contrary, it was a blessing how well that worked compared to
WYSIWYG's... Odd.

Looks like my experiences just were a lot better (and a *lot* worse
with WYSIWYGs). Also, a good editor with a good LaTeX mode can go a
long way in not having to remember cryptic commands. I had a look at
LyX once, but dumped it for pretty much the same reason I don't use
pseudo-WYSIWYG[0] HTML editors - it's not the right tool for using
those systems/languages.

Cheerio,

Thomas

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Re: [expert] 9.2 and Gramofile

2003-11-10 Thread thorsten ackermann
Am Sonntag, 9. November 2003 23:09 schrieb Rob Blomquist:
> On Sunday 09 November 2003 2:04 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > I am getting back to trying to record some tapes to mp3, and I am finding
> > that Gramofile is being weird.
> >
> > Basically, when I choose the output file, and start recording, I get a
> > blank screen. I am not sure if I am going to get a recording, but I sure
> > have no recording screen.
>Hi, my gramofile works fine with 9.2 but i have to install x-mixer that comes 
with multimedia-2.1-21mdk rpm and i have to stop arts before i work with 
gramofile and also check the settings on x-mixer i.e. igain pcm
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Re: [expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 8:44 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
>
> > Anne, I was interested in updating the link on this page to point to
> > the current version of popfile, and I noticed that there appears to be
> > no way to log myself in; it insists that I am "TwikiGuest", and I was
> > unable to find any way to convince it otherwise ... what am I missing
> > here?
> 
> Don't know, Bill.  I presume you hit Edit, signed in as BillMullen, and
> are completely certain of your password?  If so, I'll have to try to
> find out how we can change your password for you.

Ah, that's where it was hiding, under Edit. Color me embarrassed. :)

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Re: [expert] iptables and msn messenger

2003-11-10 Thread Richard Bown

Hi I had this problem and you need to open udp ports 1100 & 1182.
However these ports need to be open on the machine on the machine man is
using  msn VOIP.

So for for each user DNAT those ports to their machine.
If you use shorewall

in rules
DNATnet loc:udp1100,1182


That also allows video as well.

There is a problem this works with one machine behind the firewall and
dos'nt like subnetting.

Now this is just and idea, it might work


open udp port 1100 & 1182 on the firewall and use xinetd to redirect to
a subnet.
dont forget to  add rules to allow firewall to local for these upd ports
AND add 1100 & 1182 to /etc/services on the firewall machine.
xinetd is happy with port forward to a subnet, so it should work

HTH 
Richard
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 02:57, Leonardo Sá wrote:
> I'm currently running a server who shares a adsl connection (masquerade nat)
> without any problems.
> But users inside the network are complaining that they can't use msn
> messenger's voice chat feature.
> 
> I've googled and found out some ports to be open. I opened them but voice
> still doesn't seems to work, although file transfers using messenger are now
> working fine (it wasn't working with ports closed).
> 
> Any suggestions to enable my users to use voice chat? (iptables | mdk9.0)
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: [expert] vga resolution on text mode?

2003-11-10 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 10 November 2003 02:20 pm, Artemio wrote:
> You have to set it to vga=791 in order to have a 1024x768 color console.
> You can set this vga=791 string per kernel image, or for all kernel images
> - then include this line at the top of lilo.conf:
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> vga=791
> ...
> Good luck!
> Artemio.

Thanks Artemio, now I love text mode more than ever! 

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Re: [expert] (OT)Uh..... Am I alone in noticing the insanity?

2003-11-10 Thread Franki
Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 > Just as an aside: Did you post a report to MandrakeBizCases?
http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/modules.php?name=Submit_News

They are always glad to hear such things and the numerous reports on the
site serve well as argumentation help for people trying to persuade
their boss to have a look at Mandrake Linux.
wobo


They are more interested in reports from the actual business owners, not 
their IT guy.

I did let them know of my own uses of mandrake as web/file/dns servers 
etc some time ago.

rgds

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Re: [expert] vga resolution on text mode?

2003-11-10 Thread Artemio
> Thanks Artemio, now I love text mode more than ever!
You're always welcome!

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[expert] Infrared things

2003-11-10 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu
I recently installed the irda package(s) from Mandrake 9.1 CD's.
However at boot time, I see briefly something like:
 is not a valid infrared driver, pick one from this list:
  ..
  .. (a dozen or so driver names listed)

I did not find anything related to it in the menus, nor does anything
exist in harddrake or other configuration utilities, it seems. Oh, this is
for an IBM Thinkpad R40, btw..  -turgut


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Re: [expert] Anyone get flash player 6 working under mandrake 9.2?

2003-11-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 10 November 2003 01:33 am, Vincent Chen wrote:
> Hi, all
>
> I downloaded flash player 6 from macromedia download
> site and install it on mandrake 9.2. It used to work
> on mandrake 9.0 with mozilla 1.1 but not 9.2 with
> mozilla 1.4. Anyone get this work?
>
>
The best way to get flashplayer working on Mandrake is to get the Mandrake 
RPMS from Club Commercial Downloads.  Everything goes in the right place and 
it works in all browsers.
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Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent

2003-11-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 10 November 2003 02:15 am, elPunishar wrote:
> unfortunately they do not match with mine :(
>
> also, my CDs are labelled with RC1... then there are 3 CDs available
> labelled with RC2. but these do not appear on tzhe mandrake website either.
> does anybody know what it means ?

Then you don't have 9.2 final.  Where did you get the iso's from?
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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 9:27 am, Felix Miata wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:24 am, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> > > > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> > >
> > > dd can copy anything anywhere that there exist sectors
> > > to read & write. The example above should copy the MBR and
> > > partition tables, as well as all files on all partitions.
> >
> > That sounds good.  But how do I handle the various partitions? 
> > Do I partition the new drive first?  And format them?
>
> That command copies all sectors, including partition table sectors,
> like when you do 'dd if=somefloppyimage of=/dev/fd0' to create an
> installation diskette. AFAIK, it's exactly what the very first
> Ghost or Partition Image versions would have done.

Right.  I'm going to try Charlie's suggestion of changing the cpu fan 
first, just in case that's all it is.  If it isn't that, I'll get a 
new drive and try dd.  Thanks for the help

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Re: [expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 10:28 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 8:44 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
> > > Anne, I was interested in updating the link on this page to
> > > point to the current version of popfile, and I noticed that
> > > there appears to be no way to log myself in; it insists that I
> > > am "TwikiGuest", and I was unable to find any way to convince
> > > it otherwise ... what am I missing here?
> >
> > Don't know, Bill.  I presume you hit Edit, signed in as
> > BillMullen, and are completely certain of your password?  If so,
> > I'll have to try to find out how we can change your password for
> > you.
>
> Ah, that's where it was hiding, under Edit. Color me embarrassed.
> :)

I saw that you managed it   BTW, we have changed the Index link at 
the top to red, today, to see if that helps people finding their way 
around.  Do you think colouring the Edit button would also be a good 
idea?

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Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent

2003-11-10 Thread elPunishar
like the subject implies, from bittorrent.
i thought it was/is an official distribution channel of mandrake.

okay thank you, i will try the download edition then an check de md5 sums 
again.


On Monday 10 Nov 2003 12:30 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Monday 10 November 2003 02:15 am, elPunishar wrote:
> > unfortunately they do not match with mine :(
> >
> > also, my CDs are labelled with RC1... then there are 3 CDs available
> > labelled with RC2. but these do not appear on tzhe mandrake website
> > either. does anybody know what it means ?
>
> Then you don't have 9.2 final.  Where did you get the iso's from?


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Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent

2003-11-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 10 November 2003 08:49 am, elPunishar wrote:
> like the subject implies, from bittorrent.
> i thought it was/is an official distribution channel of mandrake.
>
Bittorrent is a technology not a place.  The actual torrent file can be 
created and offered by anyone, so there is an official torrent at the Club 
for 9.2, and there are unofficial torrents offered by Joe Q. Public.

> okay thank you, i will try the download edition then an check de md5 sums
> again.
Also, if you get the iso's using an official torrent, bittorrent does 
checksumming during the download to make sure the file is transferred 
properly, so md5sum is theoretically not necessary to check for corrupt 
iso's.  If the source is not trusted though, md5sum can help determine if 
files are official (as in your case).

>
> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 12:30 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Monday 10 November 2003 02:15 am, elPunishar wrote:
> > > unfortunately they do not match with mine :(
> > >
> > > also, my CDs are labelled with RC1... then there are 3 CDs available
> > > labelled with RC2. but these do not appear on tzhe mandrake website
> > > either. does anybody know what it means ?
> >
> > Then you don't have 9.2 final.  Where did you get the iso's from?

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Re: [expert] MDK 9.2 lilo problem after install of updated kernel 2.4.22-21

2003-11-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 10 November 2003 07:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I did a completely fresh install of 9.2 and installed lilo with no
> problem. However after rebooting, logging in and installing all of the
> upgrades successfully, I then downloaded the updated kernel and did
> an rpm
> -ivh kernel2.4.22-21*.rpm.  The kernel installed, but gave me an error
> when updating lilo.
>
> When attempting to manually update lilo with the new information, the
> following occurs:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# lilo -v
> LILO version 22.5.7.2, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
> Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2003 John Coffman
> Released 20-Aug-2003, and compiled at 16:45:54 on Sep 18 2003
>
> Reading boot sector from /dev/sdd5
> part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error
>
> Anyone know why this is happening?  Never had this problem before
> 9.2!!!
>
For some reason, it looks like lilo is trying to install in the boot sector of 
your root partition instead of in the mbr.  Can you post the contents of your 
lilo.conf?  Also, what is your disk partition layout?
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[expert] cyclades under devfs

2003-11-10 Thread Chris Garrigues
I just upgraded a system from redhat something.something to mandrake 9.1.

This system has a Cyclades multiport card it which was visible at /dev/ttyC0, /
dev/ttyC1, etc.

How am I supposed to access this card using devfs?  Do I need to put something 
in /etc/modules.devfs or /etc/devfs/conf.d?

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Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent

2003-11-10 Thread elPunishar
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 1:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Monday 10 November 2003 08:49 am, elPunishar wrote:
> > like the subject implies, from bittorrent.
> > i thought it was/is an official distribution channel of mandrake.
>
> Bittorrent is a technology not a place.  The actual torrent file can be
> created and offered by anyone, so there is an official torrent at the Club
> for 9.2, and there are unofficial torrents offered by Joe Q. Public.
>
> > okay thank you, i will try the download edition then an check de md5 sums
> > again.
>
> Also, if you get the iso's using an official torrent, bittorrent does
> checksumming during the download to make sure the file is transferred
> properly, so md5sum is theoretically not necessary to check for corrupt
> iso's.  If the source is not trusted though, md5sum can help determine if
> files are official (as in your case).
>
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 12:30 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > > On Monday 10 November 2003 02:15 am, elPunishar wrote:
> > > > unfortunately they do not match with mine :(
> > > >
> > > > also, my CDs are labelled with RC1... then there are 3 CDs available
> > > > labelled with RC2. but these do not appear on tzhe mandrake website
> > > > either. does anybody know what it means ?
> > >
> > > Then you don't have 9.2 final.  Where did you get the iso's from?

oh, i'm sorry about that! 
of course.. i got them from suprnova.tk

yes i am entirely clear about that, thats why i need a way to check if these 
are the same ISOs that mandrake released.

uhm... why are the md5 sums only for club members ??
that means they are the md5 sums for the power pack, right ? not for the 
normal download edition ?

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Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed.

2003-11-10 Thread Jack Coates
try rpm -e --nodeps suspend-scripts.

On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:45, Mofeed Shahin wrote:
> > reply-to still a problem.>
> 
> Yeah must be something I've done with kmail.
> 
> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:56, Mof wrote:
> >> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:28 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 16:44, Mof wrote:
> >> > > It appears that acpi and apm do the same thing, which is the
> >> prefered one to use anyway ?
> >> > >
> >> > > And if acpi is the prefered, how do I load up the right modules ?
> >> > >
> >> > > Mof.
> >> >
> >> > This order of commands should do it.  As root.
> >> >
> >> > /etc/init.d/apmd stop
> >> >
> >> > chkconfig apmd off
> >> >
> >> > /etc/init.d/acpid start
> >> >
> >> > chkconfig acpid on
> >> >
> >> > edit lilo (or grup) and change
> >> >
> >> > append="acpi=off"  to
> >> > append="acpi=on"
> >> >
> >> > This should set you up so that upon a reboot you are running acpi
> >> not apm as well as get the right stuff started.  Note acpid won't
> >> start if apm is running (conflict avoidence.)
> >>
> >> Thanks James, but even with acpi working, it still hangs.
> >>  Even though I have deleted /etc/acpi/events/lid, it still crashes
> >> when I
> >> close the lid.
> >
> > did you remember to use service acpid restart after editing that file?
> 
> yes, I even rebooted.
> 
> Arrrgghhh, looks like I'll have to stick with 9.1 until I can work out
> what is going on here!!
> 
> Mof.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[expert] Crashes during libgl initialization

2003-11-10 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu

I noticed that when I install/remove things, like I just installed
bittorrent; that glxinfo and any other GL program crashes; and won't go
beyond the 'initializing the libgl.so.??' step. I dont know what causes
this, but exiting 'x' and doing:

cd DRI-CVS/build/xc
make install

cures it! Until it happens again a few installs later. :(

any ideas why?
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Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent

2003-11-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 10 November 2003 10:09 am, elPunishar wrote:
> uhm... why are the md5 sums only for club members ??
> that means they are the md5 sums for the power pack, right ? not for the
> normal download edition ?

There were two sets of iso's available at the Club.  The first set was the GPL 
download edition and the second set was the first three disks of the 
Powerpack.  So to check the md5sums, you have to get the right set of 
md5sums.  They should be available somewhere, they have been posted at least 
a million times on this and the newbie list, alt.os.linux.mandrake, 
mandrakeusers.org, mandrakeclub, pclinuxonline, etc.  A quick trip to google 
should give you what you need.
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Re: [expert] fetchmail not working on 9.2

2003-11-10 Thread Todd Lyons
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Michael Noble wanted us to know:

>I installed 9.2 all the patches and fetchmail does not work.  I
>can go back to 9.0 and fetchmail works.
>Has anybody gotten fetchmail to work on 9.2, if so what is the trick?

Yes, it works just fine.  No trick, just stuck a .fetchmailrc in my home
directory and add this to my .bash_profile

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tail -1 .bash_profile
/sbin/pidof fetchmail >/dev/null || fetchmail
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Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent

2003-11-10 Thread elPunishar
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 3:22 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Monday 10 November 2003 10:09 am, elPunishar wrote:
> > uhm... why are the md5 sums only for club members ??
> > that means they are the md5 sums for the power pack, right ? not for the
> > normal download edition ?
>
> There were two sets of iso's available at the Club.  The first set was the
> GPL download edition and the second set was the first three disks of the
> Powerpack.  So to check the md5sums, you have to get the right set of
> md5sums.  They should be available somewhere, they have been posted at
> least a million times on this and the newbie list, alt.os.linux.mandrake,
> mandrakeusers.org, mandrakeclub, pclinuxonline, etc.  A quick trip to
> google should give you what you need.

well, you know, to verify the source of the ISO, i would have liked to get the 
md5 sum from madrake itself, just to be sure, you know.

google could give me anything, put in the net by anyone..

but thank you :)

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[expert] Network Install Fail, "Signal 11"

2003-11-10 Thread HaywireMac

Hi all, 

Thought I'd give up waiting for the ISO's to be released and do a
network install, but no go.

Yes, PNP is turned off in the BIOS, if that matters in this case.

Anyway, boots from the floppy fine, choose FTP, then DHCP, identifies
the network card correctly, then when it tries to bring up networking, I
get "Signal 11, exiting."

The logs (alt-F3) show that the machine got the correct info from my
DHCP server and loaded the driver for the net card successfully, shows
no errors at all (?)

Any idea what in tarnation is goin' wrong?

Thanks!

BTW, if anyone can point me to an FTP with the ISO's, I'd ray
appreciate it, save me this hassle.

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Re: [expert] Crashes during libgl initialization

2003-11-10 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 06:34, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:
> I noticed that when I install/remove things, like I just installed
> bittorrent; that glxinfo and any other GL program crashes; and won't go
> beyond the 'initializing the libgl.so.??' step. I dont know what causes
> this, but exiting 'x' and doing:
> 
> cd DRI-CVS/build/xc

mixing source and RPMs with big components like X is fairly challenging
for the system. Sounds like the libraries aren't being relinked
properly; there's a command called ld that I can't remember the proper
syntax for, but grep ld in the xc Makefile and see what they're doing.

> make install
> 
> cures it! Until it happens again a few installs later. :(
> 
> any ideas why?
> Thanks, -turgut
> 
> 
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[expert] Kmail & po3-filters

2003-11-10 Thread Jarmo
Has anyone got pop3 filters working in Kmail?
If I greate forinstance filter  contains  delete from server
filter does not work.
If I greate mail filter as above and set action "move into trash it works like 
a charm.

I'm tired to see that html-crab and would like to get rid of them without 
downloading them at all.

Or is there a bug in Kmail,can't recall,but have read/heard that it might be a 
bug?

Jarmo


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[expert] Patch installs

2003-11-10 Thread Lawson, Jim
Todd after installing mandrake 9.2 and applying the patches the menus go
from full to very little in them. What happens? Why did the patch do this?

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To: Mandrake Mailing List
Subject: Re: [expert] fetchmail not working on 9.2


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>I installed 9.2 all the patches and fetchmail does not work.  I
>can go back to 9.0 and fetchmail works.
>Has anybody gotten fetchmail to work on 9.2, if so what is the trick?

Yes, it works just fine.  No trick, just stuck a .fetchmailrc in my home
directory and add this to my .bash_profile

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tail -1 .bash_profile
/sbin/pidof fetchmail >/dev/null || fetchmail
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 Favourite shell:  bash, though I also like 'init=/usr/bin/emacs'
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[expert] Re: Kmail & po3-filters

2003-11-10 Thread Björn Lundin
Jarmo wrote:

> Has anyone got pop3 filters working in Kmail?
> If I greate forinstance filter  contains  delete from
> server filter does not work.
> If I greate mail filter as above and set action "move into trash it works
> like a charm.
> 
> I'm tired to see that html-crab and would like to get rid of them without
> downloading them at all.
> 
> Or is there a bug in Kmail,can't recall,but have read/heard that it might
> be a bug?
> 
> Jarmo

In KMail Config, network-part, your receive-account,
did you check 'Filter messages if they are greater than x bytes'?
That is how you enable pop-filters.
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Re: [expert] Network Install Fail, "Signal 11"

2003-11-10 Thread Charlie M.
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Monday 10 November 2003 8:45 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thought I'd give up waiting for the ISO's to be released and do a
> network install, but no go.
>
> Yes, PNP is turned off in the BIOS, if that matters in this case.
>
> Anyway, boots from the floppy fine, choose FTP, then DHCP, identifies
> the network card correctly, then when it tries to bring up networking, I
> get "Signal 11, exiting."

Is it a 3com 9xx network card? Those have been problematic for me many times 
for network installs. I don't know why, and have never had the time to 
diagnose it. Since they're such common hardware around here I started 
carrying a 160 GB Maxtor with cooker and current release trees mirrored from 
uninett.no on it in a USB enclosure instead of doing the internet/network 
install. That always works. (-:

> The logs (alt-F3) show that the machine got the correct info from my
> DHCP server and loaded the driver for the net card successfully, shows
> no errors at all (?)

Guess it wasn't the network interface then since that's where I've seen 
failures before with NIC problems.

> Any idea what in tarnation is goin' wrong?
>
> Thanks!
>
> BTW, if anyone can point me to an FTP with the ISO's, I'd ray
> appreciate it, save me this hassle.

I wonder if the problem is related to the fact that all the install images in 
the 9.2 tree have changed to get rid of the LG problem since I checked 
yesterday? There's no longer a .10mdkBOOT kernel image and that's likely what 
was on your network install floppy. You'll have to rewrite that disk I think. 
I say that because I ran rsync against the 9.2 tree a few minutes ago on my 
repository drive(s) and noticed there have been updates. Try a new network 
image; it couldn't hurt.

HTH
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Re: [expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 10:28 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 8:44 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
> > > > Anne, I was interested in updating the link on this page to point
> > > > to the current version of popfile, and I noticed that there
> > > > appears to be no way to log myself in; it insists that I am
> > > > "TwikiGuest", and I was unable to find any way to convince it
> > > > otherwise ... what am I missing here?
> > >
> > > Don't know, Bill.  I presume you hit Edit, signed in as BillMullen,
> > > and are completely certain of your password?  If so, I'll have to
> > > try to find out how we can change your password for you.
> >
> > Ah, that's where it was hiding, under Edit. Color me embarrassed. :)
> 
> I saw that you managed it  BTW, we have changed the Index link at the
> top to red, today, to see if that helps people finding their way around.  
> Do you think colouring the Edit button would also be a good idea?

No need; it's already bold, and easy enough to find once one knows what 
one is looking for ... which I would have, had I read the instructions 
on the home page a bit more thoroughly ... ;)

BTW, I just added an "Advanced POPfile Configuration" section to the 
existing POPfile page. Let me know if it isn't as clear as it could be.

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Re: [expert] Re: Kmail & po3-filters

2003-11-10 Thread Jarmo
On Monday 10 November 2003 18:26, Björn Lundin wrote:
>
> In KMail Config, network-part, your receive-account,
> did you check 'Filter messages if they are greater than x bytes'?
> That is how you enable pop-filters.
> /Björn

AH...No...Didn'n know about that at all...Have tried to read all docs,but 
obviosly somehow got pass that point...

Have to try it immediately...

Thanks...

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[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

>> I followed the steps given in README.RPM
>>
>> 1. mailbox_transport = lmtp:$myhostname
>>(/etc/postfix/main.cf)
>> 2. lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=0 (/etc/cyrus.conf)
>> 3. add "lmtp_admins: cyruslmtp" at the bottom of /etc/cyrus.conf
>> 4. useradd "cyruslmtp" with password "testing123"

I think I found the cause to the problem. I need to use saslpasswd2 for
cyruslmtp rather than useradd/passwd? I'm a little confused with sasldb and
saslauthd. I'm using cyrus-imapd-2.1.15-6mdk. I have saslauthd 2.1.15
(authentication mechanisms: getpwent kerberos5 pam rimap shadow ldap) and
saslpasswd2 installed. Which one should I use? How do I check if saslauthd
is used by default? BTW, I don't have /etc/imapd.conf. Is that replaced by
/etc/postfix/main.cf?

>> 5. create /etc/postfix/lmtp_sasl_pass for root:root with 600
>>permissions. File contents are
>>   $myhostnamecyruslmtp:testing123
>
> Literally? I think you should use the real hostname here instead of
> $myhostname (mail.rd.arkonnetworks.com?)
>
>> 6. postmap /etc/postfix/lmtp_sasl_pass
>>postconf -e "lmtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes"
>>postconf -e "lmtp_sasl_password_maps =
hash:/etc/postfix/lmtp_sasl_pass"
>>postconf -e "lmtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous"
>>
>> but I'm still getting
>>
>> lmtpd[1822]: connection from mail.rd.arkonnetworks.com [207.34.136.7]
>> postfix/lmtp[1821]: 594C018000A0: to=,
>> relay=mail.rd.arkonnetworks.com[207.34.136.7], delay=0, status=deferred
>> (host mail.rd.arkonnetworks.com[207.34.136.7] said: 430 Authentication
>> required (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
>
> Or maybe the problem is that postfix cannot access the file due to the
> chroot? Sorry I cannot be of more help, I never used tcp sockets with
> lmtp (as you can see that section in the readme comes from another
> person).

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Re: [expert] Re: Publishing text - OT

2003-11-10 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Monday 10 November 2003 04:33 am, T. Ribbrock wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:56:53PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > I don't know what this means.  I write a paragraph in OO, in Lyx, and in
> > Abiword.  Same paragraph.  I then print it.  It looks identical
[...]
> > printer).  This is HELL when you are trying to add graphics the page
> > after the first reference in the text.
>
> [...]
>
> I always added my graphics inline after the first reference by simply
> adding the corresponding "include" (that's not the reight word, but you
> know what I mean) after the first time I referred to it. And then it got
> placed after the first reference without me having to know anything
> about page breaks. I've hardly ever had to add page breaks manually in

What are you referring to here?  I have tried inline graphics either with or 
without text flowing around the graphic.  This can be nifty, given a good 
graphic and proper page placement, but as to automatic placement of a graphic 
on the next page all by itself with its legend (the rules according to 
university x)?  There is an obscure method in lyx that will automagically 
create a graphic/figure page on the next full page immediately following its 
first referent in the text (ie, via some special character/insert 
command/latex command)?  


> [0] There IS NO WYSIWYG FOR HTML! Pity too many people pretend it exists
> - with their pages looking accordingly bad...

And yet, there is no real reason that this must be the case.  A browser is a 
browser is a browser, provided it understands proper HTML.  There is no magic 
reason a WYSIWYG HTML editor cannot be done.  It just hasn't yet been done 
right.  There is nothing magic about manually entering a  by hand and 
via a nice GUI app/button.  Nothing.  The  is a  is a .  
Perhaps the problem has been people who create a webpage to fit within the 
immediate bounds of their current running editing app, thinking that this 
represents a universal view?  I don't know.  

Starting and stopping paragraphs (), headings (), etc, are not 
magically "better" if done by hand via text editor vs in GUI app.  So long as 
a paragraph remains a paragraph no matter what size a browser window is set 
at, so long as headings remain headings, italics remain italics, etc, I don't 
see where there could possibly be a problem.  Perhaps the problems comes from 
people using froo-froo crap styles unnecessarily, things that are barely 
standard?  Things that should never have been added in the first place?

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Re: [expert] Draksync with subdirs

2003-11-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 23:25, t_gecks wrote:
> Another great sync tool to mention would be unison in my eyes. I've 
> tried several and this has come out as the best for my needs, it 
> synchronizes in both directions, presents you a list of what to do which 
> you can edit and has the ability to sync over ssh, rsh and ftp or 
> locally. It exists in a Windows version, too.
> 
> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/

Funny that you mention this.  I just grabbed it two days ago and I
really like the way it dual syncs, notices files that are deleted etc. 
Turns your laptop into a palm in a sense, working over the internet or
lan.  I've a couple of minor "Man I wish" type things. Like being able
to declare multiple directories in a single profile but the truth is. 
It works and works rather well.  It even backups soft links as a
softlink, not as a file or dir.

James

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> > 
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Re: [expert] Kmail & po3-filters

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 4:07 pm, Jarmo wrote:
> Has anyone got pop3 filters working in Kmail?
> If I greate forinstance filter  contains  delete
> from server filter does not work.
> If I greate mail filter as above and set action "move into trash it
> works like a charm.
>
> I'm tired to see that html-crab and would like to get rid of them
> without downloading them at all.
>
> Or is there a bug in Kmail,can't recall,but have read/heard that it
> might be a bug?
>
I've never had much luck with them, although there other filters work 
well.  I just filter everything I don't want to ZZ_Junk (zz to put it 
at the bottom ) then empty it all unread

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:24 am, Felix Miata wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> > > It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to
> > > make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old disk is
> > > /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command should
> > > work:
> > >
> > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> >
> > I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why this is
> > better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I tried to copy
> > a whole directory to a new partition I had some problems before I got
> > it right, so I want to be clear before I start.
>
> AFAIK, cp can only copy files from a mounted partition to a mounted
> partition. dd can copy anything anywhere that there exist sectors to
> read & write. The example above should copy the MBR and partition
> tables, as well as all files on all partitions.
>
> > > Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot.  As I
> > > said it has been a while and may have the basic command a little
> > > off.  But the original (noisy) drive will still be in working
> > > order.
> > >
> > > If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton Ghost will
> > > also work.
> >
> > This is really a much better way, but I don't have the latest Norton
> > Ghost.  My Drive Image is not the latest, either.  Is there not a
> > linux tool that tackles it in a similar way, rather than just copying
> > files?
>
> dd is probably all anyone on Linux needs, but doesn't have menus and a
> pretty face. The M$ware may be able to do conversion if the source and
> destination don't have matching CHS? I use DFSee myself, used to use
> Partition Magic, never Ghost or Drive Image.

The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the destination drive will 
be identical to the source drive. If, like most people, you've bought a 
bigger disk, then that's hard luck. The partition table will show it as the 
same size as the old disk. I don't know where the actual full size of the 
disk is calculated so you might be able to add new partitions later, or you 
may not.

I would always prefer to use tar (with the correct magic flags) to copy 
drives.

(Ghost does handle different size disks, but does it handle your filesystem? 
And it does cost money, or did the last I heard.)

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Re: [expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 4:42 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
>
> BTW, I just added an "Advanced POPfile Configuration" section to
> the existing POPfile page. Let me know if it isn't as clear as it
> could be.

It certainly looks clear.  I think I should take a look at that as 
soon as I can spare the time.  It looks possibly more efficient, 
although I have no complaints about it whatsoever.

Are there any big advantages in upgrading the version?

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Re: [expert] /etc/hosts and dns

2003-11-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 2:18 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> I have a laptop that connects to my office e-mail server as an IMAP client.
> Sometimes I am outside the firewall, and in this case, I can connect to the
> server using the server's fqdn.  When I am inside the firewall, I can
> connect to the server by making an entry in my /etc/hosts file for it that
> aliases it's private ip to it's netbios name (it is an Exchange 5.5
> server).  In order to connect, I simply change the servername in kmail
> depending on where I am.
>
> So now my question, is there any way to set up my hosts/resolv.conf/tmdns
> to look for the server in the local network first and if it cannot find it
> to look it up in the DNS so that I don't have to constantly change the
> setup in kmail?
>
> Since the local addressing scheme in place at my company is quite unique I
> would even be open to doing something like having a script called in
> rc.local check to see what the network ip block of the local network is and
> writing out a hosts file that would have an entry for the server if I am on
> the right network, although I have no idea how to actually implement that.

You mean something like:

cp /etc/hosts.base /etc/hosts
if (/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 192.168.7>/dev/null)
then cat /etc/hosts.extra >> /etc/hosts
fi

(test it first, of course)
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[expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin

2003-11-10 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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OK, this really irritates me.  I have the latest spamassassin.  It is running 
in daemon mode.  I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that is 
identified as spam.  I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to 
identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH!

These are tricky html or other type of spam, they are plain text.  Generally 
they are viagra messages.  The one that really galls me is one that uses the 
name "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the actual proper spelling. 
 
Nonetheless, this shouldn't matter...or so one would think.  

I have now run "sa-learn --spam --dir Mail/Spam/cur" twice on this message.  
It comes back saying it "learned" from the message.  About 10 minutes later 
that damn message is back and spamassassin let it come right through.  

What the hell?  I REALLY want to nuke the computer from which this comes.  I 
was doing so well there with nary a spam for weeks getting through, then 
something inane and seemingly simple like this gets through inspite of 
"teaching" spamassassin to recognize it as crap.

Since spamassassin appears to be falling down on the job, what would be a nice 
generic procmail recipe that would recognize EITHER iteration of viagra 
spelling (in the body or subject) and pass it, no pass go, to /dev/null?  I 
never ever ever want to see another damn viagra message of any kind ever 
again.  

Thank you for any aid in this endeavor.

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Re: [expert] /etc/hosts and dns

2003-11-10 Thread Kwan Lowe

> I have a laptop that connects to my office e-mail server as an IMAP
> client. Sometimes I am outside the firewall, and in this case, I can
> connect to the server using the server's fqdn.  When I am inside the
> firewall, I can connect to the server by making an entry in my /etc/hosts
> file for it that aliases it's private ip to it's netbios name (it is an
> Exchange 5.5 server).  In order to connect, I simply change the servername
> in kmail depending on where I am.
>
> So now my question, is there any way to set up my hosts/resolv.conf/tmdns
> to look for the server in the local network first and if it cannot find
> it to look it up in the DNS so that I don't have to constantly change the
> setup in kmail?
>
> Since the local addressing scheme in place at my company is quite unique
> I would even be open to doing something like having a script called in
> rc.local check to see what the network ip block of the local network is
> and writing out a hosts file that would have an entry for the server if I
> am on the right network, although I have no idea how to actually implement
> that.


There are a couple ways to do this. IMHO, there's an easy way and a
correct way and it's not clear which is which :)

The quick way would be to write a script based on the IP address that you
receive. You could either parse ifconfig or do something when your dhcp
client returns. You could also put in a specific configuration for your
MAC address inside the DHCP server itself. However, these all have
inherent disadvantages.

The way I'd do it is to set up a DNS view for the internal and external
networks. Machines on the inside would receive the private non-routable
address when querying the nameserver for mail.domainname.com. External
machines would receive the public IP address.

For example in the named.conf:

view "internal" {
   // This should match our internal networks.
  match-clients { localnets; };
  recursion yes;
  zone "domainname.com" {
type master;
file "pz/db.internal";
};
}

view "external" {
  match-clients { any; };
  recursion no;
  zone "domainname.com" {
  type master;
  file "pz/db.domainname.com";
  };
}


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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:59:06 +
Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:

> > dd is probably all anyone on Linux needs, but doesn't have menus and a
> > pretty face. The M$ware may be able to do conversion if the source and
> > destination don't have matching CHS? I use DFSee myself, used to use
> > Partition Magic, never Ghost or Drive Image.
> 
> The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the destination drive
> will be identical to the source drive. If, like most people, you've bought
> a bigger disk, then that's hard luck. The partition table will show it as
> the same size as the old disk. I don't know where the actual full size of
> the disk is calculated so you might be able to add new partitions later,
> or you may not.
> 
> I would always prefer to use tar (with the correct magic flags) to copy 
> drives.
> 
> (Ghost does handle different size disks, but does it handle your
> filesystem? And it does cost money, or did the last I heard.)

Partition Image only copies the actual data on the drive and either does a
.gz or .bz2 file.  It can break down files into multiple sizes, for example
I burn to CD's as a stable backup.  It will allow you to restore to
different partition sizes, provided there is enough room for the data.

And is it GPL free software.  URPMI partimage or http://www.partimage.org

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Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin

2003-11-10 Thread Kwan Lowe
>
> These are tricky html or other type of spam, they are plain text.
> Generally
> they are viagra messages.  The one that really galls me is one that uses
> the
> name "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the actual proper 
> spelling.
> Nonetheless, this shouldn't matter...or so one would think.

I understand your pain.  Last week my servers received over 3,000 spam
messages, of which almost 100 made it past the spamfilters. Here's one
site that has interesting approach:

http://bleaklow.com/blog/archive/23.html

You could add the obfuscated strings to look specifically for those
misspellings.

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Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin

2003-11-10 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:27:12 -0500
Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:

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> 
> OK, this really irritates me.  I have the latest spamassassin.  It is
> running in daemon mode.  I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that
> is identified as spam.  I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to
> 
> identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH!
> 
> These are tricky html or other type of spam, they are plain text. 
> Generally they are viagra messages.  The one that really galls me is one
> that uses the name "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the actual 
> proper
> spelling.  Nonetheless, this shouldn't matter...or so one would think.  
> 
> I have now run "sa-learn --spam --dir Mail/Spam/cur" twice on this
> message.  It comes back saying it "learned" from the message.  About 10
> minutes later that damn message is back and spamassassin let it come right
> through.  
> 
> What the hell?  I REALLY want to nuke the computer from which this comes. 
> I was doing so well there with nary a spam for weeks getting through, then
> 
> something inane and seemingly simple like this gets through inspite of 
> "teaching" spamassassin to recognize it as crap.
> 
> Since spamassassin appears to be falling down on the job, what would be a
> nice generic procmail recipe that would recognize EITHER iteration of
> viagra spelling (in the body or subject) and pass it, no pass go, to
> /dev/null?  I never ever ever want to see another damn viagra message of
> any kind ever again.  
> 
> Thank you for any aid in this endeavor.
> 
> praedor
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> sail for a rock.  The whole crew may see this course to violate our
> liberties in full view if they look the right way."
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By "latest" do you mean 2.55 or 2.60? 
With 2.60 you have to run "sa-learn --import" to update the Bayesian
database. 

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Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin

2003-11-10 Thread Jack Coates
try joining the spamassassin user's list and asking about tuning.

On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 11:27, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> OK, this really irritates me.  I have the latest spamassassin.  It is running 
> in daemon mode.  I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that is 
> identified as spam.  I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to 
> identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH!
> 
> These are tricky html or other type of spam, they are plain text.  Generally 
> they are viagra messages.  The one that really galls me is one that uses the 
> name "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the actual proper 
> spelling.  
> Nonetheless, this shouldn't matter...or so one would think.  
> 
> I have now run "sa-learn --spam --dir Mail/Spam/cur" twice on this message.  
> It comes back saying it "learned" from the message.  About 10 minutes later 
> that damn message is back and spamassassin let it come right through.  
> 
> What the hell?  I REALLY want to nuke the computer from which this comes.  I 
> was doing so well there with nary a spam for weeks getting through, then 
> something inane and seemingly simple like this gets through inspite of 
> "teaching" spamassassin to recognize it as crap.
> 
> Since spamassassin appears to be falling down on the job, what would be a nice 
> generic procmail recipe that would recognize EITHER iteration of viagra 
> spelling (in the body or subject) and pass it, no pass go, to /dev/null?  I 
> never ever ever want to see another damn viagra message of any kind ever 
> again.  
> 
> Thank you for any aid in this endeavor.
> 
> praedor
> - -- 
> "Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail 
> for a rock.  The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in 
> full view if they look the right way."
> - --Samuel Adams, 1771
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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:59 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:24 am, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> > > > It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best
> > > > to make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old
> > > > disk is /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following
> > > > command should work:
> > > >
> > > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> > >
> > > I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why
> > > this is better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I
> > > tried to copy a whole directory to a new partition I had some
> > > problems before I got it right, so I want to be clear before I
> > > start.
> >
> > AFAIK, cp can only copy files from a mounted partition to a
> > mounted partition. dd can copy anything anywhere that there exist
> > sectors to read & write. The example above should copy the MBR
> > and partition tables, as well as all files on all partitions.
> >
> > > > Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot. 
> > > > As I said it has been a while and may have the basic command
> > > > a little off.  But the original (noisy) drive will still be
> > > > in working order.
> > > >
> > > > If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton
> > > > Ghost will also work.
> > >
> > > This is really a much better way, but I don't have the latest
> > > Norton Ghost.  My Drive Image is not the latest, either.  Is
> > > there not a linux tool that tackles it in a similar way, rather
> > > than just copying files?
> >
> > dd is probably all anyone on Linux needs, but doesn't have menus
> > and a pretty face. The M$ware may be able to do conversion if the
> > source and destination don't have matching CHS? I use DFSee
> > myself, used to use Partition Magic, never Ghost or Drive Image.
>
> The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the destination
> drive will be identical to the source drive. If, like most people,
> you've bought a bigger disk, then that's hard luck. The partition
> table will show it as the same size as the old disk. I don't know
> where the actual full size of the disk is calculated so you might
> be able to add new partitions later, or you may not.
>
Hmm - I have actually only used around half of this drive, saving the 
rest for later :-)  I wonder if it would be sensible, then, to create 
one large partition in the remaining space, which can be deleted and 
allocated as necessary, later?

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 11:23 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:59:06 +
>
> Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic 
parchment:
> > > dd is probably all anyone on Linux needs, but doesn't have
> > > menus and a pretty face. The M$ware may be able to do
> > > conversion if the source and destination don't have matching
> > > CHS? I use DFSee myself, used to use Partition Magic, never
> > > Ghost or Drive Image.
> >
> > The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the
> > destination drive will be identical to the source drive. If, like
> > most people, you've bought a bigger disk, then that's hard luck.
> > The partition table will show it as the same size as the old
> > disk. I don't know where the actual full size of the disk is
> > calculated so you might be able to add new partitions later, or
> > you may not.
> >
> > I would always prefer to use tar (with the correct magic flags)
> > to copy drives.
> >
> > (Ghost does handle different size disks, but does it handle your
> > filesystem? And it does cost money, or did the last I heard.)
>
> Partition Image only copies the actual data on the drive and either
> does a .gz or .bz2 file.  It can break down files into multiple
> sizes, for example I burn to CD's as a stable backup.  

It has to be worth looking at, if only for that excellent reason.

> It will
> allow you to restore to different partition sizes, provided there
> is enough room for the data.
>
> And is it GPL free software.  URPMI partimage or
> http://www.partimage.org
>
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Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin

2003-11-10 Thread Schwartz Avi
On Nov 10, 2003, at 13:27, Praedor Atrebates wrote:

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OK, this really irritates me.  I have the latest spamassassin.  It is 
running
in daemon mode.  I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that is
identified as spam.  I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to
identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH!

I don't know how you set spamassasin, but in my installation all it 
does is tag the message as spam in the headers and I still had to 
create a rule (in my case using sieve) to move all this garbage to a 
spam folder.

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Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin

2003-11-10 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 10 November 2003 02:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> OK, this really irritates me.  I have the latest spamassassin.  It is
> running in daemon mode.  I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that
> is identified as spam.  I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to
> identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH!

You are relying too much on pure filtering checks.  Spammers run their 
messages against SA in order to figure out what types of changes can make it 
past the stock filters.  

I rely much more heavily on DNSBL checks, and filter out messages from known 
spam sources, open relays, open proxies, etc.  As a result, I get much less 
spam passing by my SA filters.  As of one week from yesterday, I have ~2000 
messages, about 1600 of those are spam and only 1 was a false negative that 
managed to squeak past the filter.  Only 4 false positives and those were 
trivial matches from the mailing list where someone is sending through a 
known open relay.

Beef up your DNSBL scores and I guarantee that the number that squeak by will 
drop.
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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Sridhar G
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 9:27 am, Felix Miata wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 10 Nov 2003 6:24 am, Felix Miata wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
dd can copy anything anywhere that there exist sectors
to read & write. The example above should copy the MBR and
partition tables, as well as all files on all partitions.
That sounds good.  But how do I handle the various partitions? 
Do I partition the new drive first?  And format them?
That command copies all sectors, including partition table sectors,
like when you do 'dd if=somefloppyimage of=/dev/fd0' to create an
installation diskette. AFAIK, it's exactly what the very first
Ghost or Partition Image versions would have done.


Right.  I'm going to try Charlie's suggestion of changing the cpu fan 
first, just in case that's all it is.  If it isn't that, I'll get a 
new drive and try dd.  Thanks for the help

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I had a similar problem with my 6 months old IBM HD. According to IBM's 
website the problem goes away after you reformat the drive. I tried it 
and it worked. If your's is an IBM try this after backing up the data.

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Urwin wrote:
 
> The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the destination drive will
> be identical to the source drive.

No it won't. Everything from the first sector through the last sector #
on the old disk will be identical, which is not the same thing.

> If, like most people, you've bought a
> bigger disk, then that's hard luck. The partition table will show it as the
> same size as the old disk.

No, it will show identical use, which is not the same thing. The new
will have unallocated space beyond the last sector # used on the old
disk. You can make one or more new partitions out of that space without
any impact on the contents of any previous partitions.
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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 23:31, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 10 Nov 2003 7:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> >
> > partimage you do have that one. It's only a urpmi away.
> >
> Fine.  Is it well documented?
> 
> Anne

Yes, considering that I could use it.  And I can top the thick headed
list when needed. One thing I found useful is to have it on a floppy, as
the version I used couldn't image a mounted partition.  In fact now that
I think of it partimage is on Knoppix as well so if you have that
one. 

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 9:24 pm, Felix Miata wrote:
> Richard Urwin wrote:
> > The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the
> > destination drive will be identical to the source drive.
>
> No it won't. Everything from the first sector through the last
> sector # on the old disk will be identical, which is not the same
> thing.
>
> > If, like most people, you've bought a
> > bigger disk, then that's hard luck. The partition table will show
> > it as the same size as the old disk.
>
> No, it will show identical use, which is not the same thing. The
> new will have unallocated space beyond the last sector # used on
> the old disk. You can make one or more new partitions out of that
> space without any impact on the contents of any previous
> partitions.

Which sounds just what I was doing with this disk.  Thanks

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Re: [expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
Norman Zhang escribió:
Hi,


I followed the steps given in README.RPM

1. mailbox_transport = lmtp:$myhostname
  (/etc/postfix/main.cf)
2. lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=0 (/etc/cyrus.conf)
3. add "lmtp_admins: cyruslmtp" at the bottom of /etc/cyrus.conf
There's an error in /etc/cyrus.conf. The line should be added in 
/etc/imapd.conf, not /etc/cyrus.conf

4. useradd "cyruslmtp" with password "testing123"


I think I found the cause to the problem. I need to use saslpasswd2 for
cyruslmtp rather than useradd/passwd? 
Only if you want to use the sasldb for your password (either in addition 
or replacing any other authentication database you can use with sasl)

I'm a little confused with sasldb and
saslauthd.
Well, yes, everybody is confused with sasl authentication (and all its 
possible configurations). It's very flexible and that makes it very 
difficult to grasp. I'm not sure if the documentation for cyrus-sasl 
and/or cyrus-imapd is clear enough, but, IIRC, there should be enough 
information to get started.

I'm using cyrus-imapd-2.1.15-6mdk. I have saslauthd 2.1.15
(authentication mechanisms: getpwent kerberos5 pam rimap shadow ldap) and
saslpasswd2 installed. Which one should I use? How do I check if saslauthd
is used by default?
check that in /etc/imapd.conf you have the line

sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd

*but* that will only be used for plaintext authentication. Other 
authentication methods (cram md5 for example) need a shared secret (i.e. 
the server need the plaintext password), and that's impossible with 
saslauthd. If you want to be sure that the server only advertises 
plaintext (so you are sure it will only use saslauthd and nothing else) 
you can either remove all sasl plugins except plain, or restrict to 
plaintext putting the following line

sasl_mech_list: PLAIN

in /etc/imapd.conf.
The former will affect all servers using sasl, the latter only 
cyrus-imap (note that any option starting with sasl_ in /etc/imapd.conf 
is actually an option for the sasl library, so you should read sasl 
documentation to see what options are available).


BTW, I don't have /etc/imapd.conf. Is that replaced by
/etc/postfix/main.cf?
No, /etc/imapd.conf is for cyrus-imapd (and a default version comes with 
the package, so I don't understand why you don't have it), while 
/etc/postfix/main.cf is postfix configuration.

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[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

>>> I followed the steps given in README.RPM
>>>
>>> 1. mailbox_transport = lmtp:$myhostname
>>>(/etc/postfix/main.cf)
>>> 2. lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=0 (/etc/cyrus.conf)
>>> 3. add "lmtp_admins: cyruslmtp" at the bottom of /etc/cyrus.conf
>>> 4. useradd "cyruslmtp" with password "testing123"
>
> I think I found the cause to the problem. I need to use saslpasswd2 for
> cyruslmtp rather than useradd/passwd? I'm a little confused with sasldb
and
> saslauthd. I'm using cyrus-imapd-2.1.15-6mdk. I have saslauthd 2.1.15
> (authentication mechanisms: getpwent kerberos5 pam rimap shadow ldap) and
> saslpasswd2 installed. Which one should I use? How do I check if saslauthd
> is used by default? BTW, I don't have /etc/imapd.conf. Is that replaced by
> /etc/postfix/main.cf?

Sorry for all the noise. I found that 9.2 is using saslauthd by default. The
information is provided in /etc/imapd.conf.

sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
sasl_mech_list: PLAIN

I do have /etc/imapd.conf as it came with LM 9.2, but not smtpd.conf. I
guess smtpd.conf is indeed replaced by main.cf.

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[expert] Re: Publishing text - OT

2003-11-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:05:26PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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> What are you referring to here?  I have tried inline graphics either with or 
> without text flowing around the graphic.  This can be nifty, given a good 
> graphic and proper page placement, but as to automatic placement of a graphic 
> on the next page all by itself with its legend (the rules according to 
> university x)?  There is an obscure method in lyx that will automagically 
> create a graphic/figure page on the next full page immediately following its 
> first referent in the text (ie, via some special character/insert 
> command/latex command)?  

Ok, I get it now - I've never tried that special approach, so I can't
comment on it. I've only ever used inline graphics, as I never had the
need for anything else...


> > [0] There IS NO WYSIWYG FOR HTML! Pity too many people pretend it exists
> > - with their pages looking accordingly bad...
> 
> And yet, there is no real reason that this must be the case.  A browser is a 
> browser is a browser, provided it understands proper HTML.  There is no magic 
> reason a WYSIWYG HTML editor cannot be done.

Wrong. A WYSIWYG cannot be done for HTML. What You See Is What You Get
WHERE? That's the question. With a medium like HTML, I know nothing
about the system it's displayed on and I can not make any assumptions
about it. The resulting page is supposed to work everywhere - that's
the basic idea of it. Hence, WYSIWYG is impossible, as I will never be
able to know the exact output, other than on my own setup(s). That's
what I was getting at.

Cheerio,

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
Anne Wilson escribió:
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:

It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to
make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old disk is
/dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command should
work:
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb

I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why this is 
better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I tried to copy 
a whole directory to a new partition I had some problems before I got 
it right, so I want to be clear before I start.
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html
suggests to use cp -a
I used that howto many times (either to recover from disk failure or to 
prepare a copy of the current distribution to a different partition 
before an upgrade) and I found it very useful.

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[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

>>I followed the steps given in README.RPM
>>
>>1. mailbox_transport = lmtp:$myhostname
>>   (/etc/postfix/main.cf)
>>2. lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=0 (/etc/cyrus.conf)
>>3. add "lmtp_admins: cyruslmtp" at the bottom of /etc/cyrus.conf
>
> There's an error in /etc/cyrus.conf. The line should be added in
> /etc/imapd.conf, not /etc/cyrus.conf

Thanks. I have changed that.

>>4. useradd "cyruslmtp" with password "testing123"
>>
>> I think I found the cause to the problem. I need to use saslpasswd2 for
>> cyruslmtp rather than useradd/passwd?
>
> Only if you want to use the sasldb for your password (either in addition
> or replacing any other authentication database you can use with sasl)
>
>> I'm using cyrus-imapd-2.1.15-6mdk. I have saslauthd 2.1.15
>> (authentication mechanisms: getpwent kerberos5 pam rimap shadow ldap) and
>> saslpasswd2 installed. Which one should I use? How do I check if
>> saslauthd is used by default?
>
> check that in /etc/imapd.conf you have the line
>
> sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
>
> *but* that will only be used for plaintext authentication. Other
> authentication methods (cram md5 for example) need a shared secret (i.e.
> the server need the plaintext password), and that's impossible with
> saslauthd. If you want to be sure that the server only advertises
> plaintext (so you are sure it will only use saslauthd and nothing else)
> you can either remove all sasl plugins except plain, or restrict to
> plaintext putting the following line
>
> sasl_mech_list: PLAIN

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I will use TLS on top of PLAIN. But
first I need to get postfix + cyrus working. I have been trying to get
postfix + cyrus working on and off for a long time now. Hopefully, after
getting it to work I can post my findings on Twiki.

> in /etc/imapd.conf.
> The former will affect all servers using sasl, the latter only
> cyrus-imap (note that any option starting with sasl_ in /etc/imapd.conf
> is actually an option for the sasl library, so you should read sasl
> documentation to see what options are available).

Thanks. I will read up on those docs. I now have so many docs all over the
net on my desk... Sorry I have been mixing you up and Luca Berra. 8)

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Re: [expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
Norman Zhang escribió:

Sorry for all the noise. I found that 9.2 is using saslauthd by default. The
information is provided in /etc/imapd.conf.
sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
sasl_mech_list: PLAIN
I do have /etc/imapd.conf as it came with LM 9.2, but not smtpd.conf. I
guess smtpd.conf is indeed replaced by main.cf.
Well, no, smtpd.conf is the sasl configuration for postfix smtp auth. If 
you need smtp auth you'll need to create that file (in /usr/lib/sasl2, I 
think it's the wrong location but that's how mandrake's sasl package is 
configured). If you don't need smtp auth forget about 
/usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf

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Re: [expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
Norman Zhang escribió:

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I will use TLS on top of PLAIN.
Well, that won't change anything (I mean, sasl is not involved so using 
tls won't mean changing sasl configuration). If you want to avoid 
cyrus-imapd advertising plaintext authentication over an insecure link 
(i.e. before tls has been negotiated) you can add

allowplaintext: no

in /etc/imapd.conf

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Re: [expert] /etc/hosts and dns

2003-11-10 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 10 November 2003 02:10 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > Since the local addressing scheme in place at my company is quite unique
> > I would even be open to doing something like having a script called in
> > rc.local check to see what the network ip block of the local network is
> > and writing out a hosts file that would have an entry for the server if I
> > am on the right network, although I have no idea how to actually
> > implement that.
>
> You mean something like:
>
> cp /etc/hosts.base /etc/hosts
> if (/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 192.168.7>/dev/null)
> then cat /etc/hosts.extra >> /etc/hosts
> fi
>
> (test it first, of course)
> HTH

Thank you for that.  I would make a terrible programmer.  It seems so obvious 
now after seeing your simple script.
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[expert] movies, jpegs, etc

2003-11-10 Thread Michael Holt
Hey all,
M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can
download for free for winxp.  I would like to know if there is
something comparible for linux.  I was asked if I could help with
some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe
Premier.  As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource
as possible.  I haven't done much video editing, and what I have
done was on Windows, several years ago.  I would like something
that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also
something that could do video transitions with effects similar to
premier.  Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo
or have like a 'page-flip' effect.  Same with the video; maybe
being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage.

Any suggestions?

Things I've looked at already are:

cinelerra
kino
mjpeg
filmgimp

As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one
of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel
free to point that out :)

Thanks!

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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 10 Nov 2003 9:24 pm, Felix Miata wrote:
> Richard Urwin wrote:
> > The big problem with dd is that when it's finished the destination drive
> > will be identical to the source drive.
>
> No it won't. Everything from the first sector through the last sector #
> on the old disk will be identical, which is not the same thing.
>
> > If, like most people, you've bought a
> > bigger disk, then that's hard luck. The partition table will show it as
> > the same size as the old disk.
>
> No, it will show identical use, which is not the same thing. The new
> will have unallocated space beyond the last sector # used on the old
> disk. You can make one or more new partitions out of that space without
> any impact on the contents of any previous partitions.

Thanks for the clarification. As I said:
> you might be able to add new partitions later, or you may not.
It seems you can. I was worried that the size of the disk was encoded in the 
partition table, in which case diskdrake et al would only show a disk the 
same size as the old one.

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[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Norman Zhang
>> information is provided in /etc/imapd.conf.
>>
>> sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
>> sasl_mech_list: PLAIN
>>
>> I do have /etc/imapd.conf as it came with LM 9.2, but not smtpd.conf. I
>> guess smtpd.conf is indeed replaced by main.cf.
>
> Well, no, smtpd.conf is the sasl configuration for postfix smtp auth. If
> you need smtp auth you'll need to create that file (in /usr/lib/sasl2, I
> think it's the wrong location but that's how mandrake's sasl package is
> configured). If you don't need smtp auth forget about
> /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf

After putting lmtp_admins: cyruslmtp into /etc/imapd.conf, now I can receive
mail. Setting smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes would mean all clients sending
mail to Postfix will be authenticated via sasl, including Exchange or other
peoples' servers too?

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[expert] ATI Radeon 9800Pro with 64bit AMD Opteron

2003-11-10 Thread J. Grant
Hi,

Has anyone tried ATI Radeon 9800Pro with 64bit AMD Opteron?  I saw the 
AMD64 RC1 is out now, but there was no mention.  I want to setup a 
high-powered GNU/Linux graphics workstation.

Tips appreciated

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Re: [expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
Norman Zhang escribió:

After putting lmtp_admins: cyruslmtp into /etc/imapd.conf, now I can receive
mail. Setting smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes would mean all clients sending
mail to Postfix will be authenticated via sasl, including Exchange or other
peoples' servers too?
No, that would be smtpd_sasl_auth_enabled, and only depending on the 
setting of smtpd_recipient_restrictions.
You should google for "postfix smtp auth" or look at the "documentation, 
howto and faqs" section at postfix.org.

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[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

> mail. Setting smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes would mean all clients sending
> mail to Postfix will be authenticated via sasl, including Exchange or
other
> peoples' servers too?

Please ignore my question.

smtp_sasl_auth_enable keyword tells postfix to attempt to authenticate on
all outbound connections. I guess people sending in is not affected. Sorry
for all the noise. I will read up on the docs before posting again.

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Re: [expert] Twiki (semi-hijack)

2003-11-10 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

[referring to POPfile v0.20.1, vs. v0.19.1]

> Are there any big advantages in upgrading the version?

>From what I gather from the relevant announcements, the use of BerkeleyDB 
instead of flat-file storage greatly improves the processing speed, and 
there seem to be a lot of worthwhile bugfixes as well. Some links:

Announcement of the 0.20.0 release
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=319997

Announcement of the 0.20.1 release
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=325812

Upgrading seems rather straightforward; stop POPfile, backup its directory 
in its entirety, and unzip the new release over the old.

The now-required BerkeleyDB Perl module is in contrib in RPM form, as 
"perl-BerkeleyDB". Best to install that first. When POPfile next runs 
after the upgrade, it will convert the database file's format over.

I can't offer any specific experience as regards the upgrade, as I had 
never tried the app until today, and opted for the current version. :)

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Re: [expert] cyclades under devfs

2003-11-10 Thread Alexandre Jacarandá
Whatever GNU/Linux you are using, it's good to look on /var/log/messages and 
/var/log/dmesg .

This both files will give you some hints if you compiled on kernel or module to have 
access to
your card.


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Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?

2003-11-10 Thread et
On Monday 10 November 2003 10:37 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Anne Wilson escribió:
> > On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote:
> >>It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to
> >>make them the same type and size).  Assuming that the old disk is
> >>/dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command should
> >>work:
> >>
> >>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
> >
> > I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why this is
> > better than cp -a ?  I do remember that the last time I tried to copy
> > a whole directory to a new partition I had some problems before I got
> > it right, so I want to be clear before I start.
>
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html
> suggests to use cp -a
> I used that howto many times (either to recover from disk failure or to
> prepare a copy of the current distribution to a different partition
> before an upgrade) and I found it very useful.
>
> Bye
I recently upgrade from hdb being a dvd reader and hdc a 5 gig, and hdd a 
cdwriter, to a dvd writer at hdd and a 120 gig at hdc, in MDk 9.1. I plugged 
in the drive to the case, and I started the computer, fired up MCC, went to 
diskdrake and told it the change, and that I wanted to make a 45 gig 
/var/www. it asked if I wanted what was now in my /var/www copied over (of 
course I did, and it did fine), and I now have a separate /var/www from /var.   
have you just tried to see if you can just do it with out thinking about it 
and using the gui?


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[expert] Inspiron 3200 sound-Mandrake 9.0

2003-11-10 Thread Rob Blomquist
I see on the web, that the sound card for this machine is said to be the 
Crystal 4237B and it is said to work with the CS4232 module. How can I 
configure it, either manually or with drakconf? BTW, the installer did not 
detect the card, and did not load the draksound for it.

I have a home LAN, and a modem for this machine, what can I do when I am 
portable with it, so that I can use the modem instead of the LAN connection. 
Currently the LAN is up and running fine with a 3c589 PCMCIA slot NIC, and 
the modem has been pulled from the PCMCIA slot.

And what window managers  work best with this machine. I am a big fan of KDE, 
but I think that the machine may prefer something lighter, so as not to tax 
the video and processor so much.

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Re: [expert] Inspiron 3200 sound-Mandrake 9.0

2003-11-10 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 18:21, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I see on the web, that the sound card for this machine is said to be the 
> Crystal 4237B and it is said to work with the CS4232 module. How can I 
> configure it, either manually or with drakconf? BTW, the installer did not 
> detect the card, and did not load the draksound for it.

try the old sndconfig utility, it does a good job on those older chips.

> I have a home LAN, and a modem for this machine, what can I do when I am 
> portable with it, so that I can use the modem instead of the LAN connection. 
> Currently the LAN is up and running fine with a 3c589 PCMCIA slot NIC, and 
> the modem has been pulled from the PCMCIA slot.
> 

so it's a card modem instead of a built-in? What are you asking? How to
swap cards?

> And what window managers  work best with this machine. I am a big fan of KDE, 
> but I think that the machine may prefer something lighter, so as not to tax 
> the video and processor so much.
> 
> Rob

Light weight window managers get pretty idiosyncratic (in fact, I even
know someone who uses ratpoison :-)

Have a look at XFce, IceWM, WindowMaker, blackbox. 

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[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd

2003-11-10 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

>> Sorry for all the noise. I found that 9.2 is using saslauthd by default.
>> The information is provided in /etc/imapd.conf.
>>
>> sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
>> sasl_mech_list: PLAIN
>>
>> I do have /etc/imapd.conf as it came with LM 9.2, but not smtpd.conf. I
>> guess smtpd.conf is indeed replaced by main.cf.
>
> Well, no, smtpd.conf is the sasl configuration for postfix smtp auth. If
> you need smtp auth you'll need to create that file (in /usr/lib/sasl2, I
> think it's the wrong location but that's how mandrake's sasl package is
> configured). If you don't need smtp auth forget about
> /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf

I added the following lines to /etc/postfix/main.cf

smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated,
check_relay_domains
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous

My users are local users. If I changed /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf to include
pwcheck_method:sasldb, that means I need to add users to
/var/lib/sasl2/sasl.db manually and also assign permission 644 to satisfy
chroot condition? This would also make it very difficult for users to change
their password? If I use local users, I could give them usermin access and
they could change password at will.

If I use the option pwcheck_method:pwcheck. I need to add /usr/sbin/pwck to
/etc/rc.d/rc.local but I get the following errors.

user adm: directory /var/adm does not exist
user news: directory /var/spool/news does not exist
user uucp: directory /var/spool/uucp does not exist
pwck: no changes

I'm lost here. Could you give some hints?

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Re: [expert] Re: Kmail & po3-filters

2003-11-10 Thread Jarmo
On Monday 10 November 2003 18:26, Björn Lundin wrote:
>
> In KMail Config, network-part, your receive-account,
> did you check 'Filter messages if they are greater than x bytes'?
> That is how you enable pop-filters.
> /Björn

AH...No...Didn'n know about that at all...Have tried to read all docs,but 
obviosly somehow got pass that point...

Have to try it immediately...

OK.
Now I have tested it and that's not what I want.I have to set bytes nearly 
zero to keep that html-crab away.BUT same time I have to be online
confirming poup windows actionsNO...that's not what I want.I have Kmail 
set by interwall checking my mail and want to set filter so,that all possible
messages,that contains html,should be deleted from server without any 
confirmation.
I don't understand why it sould be bound to any bytesize?
Have to make succestion to Kmails authors to change that filter policy.

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[expert] [dfox@m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com: hijack cont.]

2003-11-10 Thread Todd Lyons
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Update of what is happening to David, forwarded to the list as per his
request.

David, I'd like to see those requests from your logs.

Blue skies...   Todd

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To: todd
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Todd:

I thought I'd mail you privately on a couple of things;

* because of various blacklists I cannot post to the lists and 
  such. I'm still listed in MAPS. I am trying to get them to
  de list me.

* After going back and forth with LX (my mail bounces to him, 
  natch) it seems clear that an open proxy was used - a 
  vulnerability in apache mod-proxy, to be specific. After
  reviewing the logs, I have seen a large number of GETs 
  in /var/log/httpd/*.log with very long 
  pathnames and/or requests to xxx.xxx.xxx:25. I think that
  is how they got in.

* In order to circumvent, I have installed portsentry (why isn't
  this included any more with Mandrake??!??!?) and got chkrootkit. 
  Chkrootkit reports everything OK, and portsentry has managed
  to block a fair number of IPs so far.

* LX told me this is on bugtraq. Apparently a vulnerability 
  exists in apache mod-proxy -- this was reported with plain
  vanilla apache (not apache2) in June of this year. Mandrake
  probably needs to ensure that users don't install apache2
  components unless and until they really need them (and I
  admit I probably installed too much). I have removed apache2,
  and installed just the bare bones functionality (2 rpms vs. 
  five or six).

Todd - if you can forward this to expert I would *really* appreciate
it. I hope my mail doesn't bounce :(
 
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Re: [expert] Inspiron 3200 sound-Mandrake 9.0

2003-11-10 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 10 November 2003 8:10 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 18:21, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > I see on the web, that the sound card for this machine is said to be the
> > Crystal 4237B and it is said to work with the CS4232 module. How can I
> > configure it, either manually or with drakconf? BTW, the installer did
> > not detect the card, and did not load the draksound for it.
>
> try the old sndconfig utility, it does a good job on those older chips.
I shall check it out.

> > I have a home LAN, and a modem for this machine, what can I do when I am
> > portable with it, so that I can use the modem instead of the LAN
> > connection. Currently the LAN is up and running fine with a 3c589 PCMCIA
> > slot NIC, and the modem has been pulled from the PCMCIA slot.
>
> so it's a card modem instead of a built-in? What are you asking? How to
> swap cards?
Yes, both the NIC and modem are PCMCIA cards (3COM 56k Global Modem, and 
Etherlink III (3c589). And can I hot swap these cards, or what do I do to 
disconnect or reconnect them? Anything special?


> Have a look at XFce, IceWM, WindowMaker, blackbox.
Thanks for the tips

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Re: [expert] Anyone get flash player 6 working under mandrake 9.2?

2003-11-10 Thread Rob Blomquist

> > I downloaded flash player 6 from macromedia download
> > site and install it on mandrake 9.2. It used to work
> > on mandrake 9.0 with mozilla 1.1 but not 9.2 with
> > mozilla 1.4. Anyone get this work?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
>
> Make sure it didn't put the libs in either /usr/lib/netscape/plugin or
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/  Had that happen to me and had to move the
> files it created to the right place.

Yes, but I am trying to get it going with Konq in 9.2, and even though I have 
added the generic location, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and 
/usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins, and I still can't get konq to use it???

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Re: [expert] Anyone get flash player 6 working under mandrake 9.2?

2003-11-10 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 10 November 2003 4:29 am, Greg Meyer wrote:

> The best way to get flashplayer working on Mandrake is to get the Mandrake
> RPMS from Club Commercial Downloads.  Everything goes in the right place
> and it works in all browsers.

Is there a urpmi source for the Club Commercial site? I would love to add it.

Well, I d/l FlashPlayer-6.0-3mdk.i586.rpm and urpmi'd it, and I turned out to 
need libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk.i586 too. And with it, all my other plugins 
worked properly.

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Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!

2003-11-10 Thread Mof
The "rpm -e -nodeps suspend-scripts" didn't work, so it became obvious that it 
was a kernel problem, so I thought I'd upgrade to the latest kernel, and see 
what happens, but as I was doing that I noticed something odd in lilo.conf :

append="quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent"

First off I really don't know what acpi=ht means.
What is ht ??
So I changed it to "on"
But wait! Look right next to that and you'll see the "causer of all pain"
"resume=/dev/hda5"
But /dev/hda5 is my bloody swap partition
After removing the resume=/dev/hda5, it works fine now!

Thanks alot guys for being so patient.
I should have sent the append line from the start!

Mof.

On Tuesday 11 November 2003 00:55, Jack Coates wrote:
> try rpm -e --nodeps suspend-scripts.
>
> On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:45, Mofeed Shahin wrote:
> > > reply-to still a problem.>
> >
> > Yeah must be something I've done with kmail.
> >
> > > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:56, Mof wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:28 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 16:44, Mof wrote:
> > >> > > It appears that acpi and apm do the same thing, which is the
> > >>
> > >> prefered one to use anyway ?
> > >>
> > >> > > And if acpi is the prefered, how do I load up the right modules ?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Mof.
> > >> >
> > >> > This order of commands should do it.  As root.
> > >> >
> > >> > /etc/init.d/apmd stop
> > >> >
> > >> > chkconfig apmd off
> > >> >
> > >> > /etc/init.d/acpid start
> > >> >
> > >> > chkconfig acpid on
> > >> >
> > >> > edit lilo (or grup) and change
> > >> >
> > >> > append="acpi=off"  to
> > >> > append="acpi=on"
> > >> >
> > >> > This should set you up so that upon a reboot you are running acpi
> > >>
> > >> not apm as well as get the right stuff started.  Note acpid won't
> > >> start if apm is running (conflict avoidence.)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks James, but even with acpi working, it still hangs.
> > >>  Even though I have deleted /etc/acpi/events/lid, it still crashes
> > >> when I
> > >> close the lid.
> > >
> > > did you remember to use service acpid restart after editing that file?
> >
> > yes, I even rebooted.
> >
> > Arrrgghhh, looks like I'll have to stick with 9.1 until I can work out
> > what is going on here!!
> >
> > Mof.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc

2003-11-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 15:45, Michael Holt wrote:
> Hey all,
> M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can
> download for free for winxp.  I would like to know if there is
> something comparible for linux.  I was asked if I could help with
> some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe
> Premier.  As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource
> as possible.  I haven't done much video editing, and what I have
> done was on Windows, several years ago.  I would like something
> that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also
> something that could do video transitions with effects similar to
> premier.  Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo
> or have like a 'page-flip' effect.  Same with the video; maybe
> being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Things I've looked at already are:
> 
> cinelerra
> kino
> mjpeg
> filmgimp
> 
> As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one
> of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel
> free to point that out :)
> 
> Thanks!

There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality called
broadcast 2000 You can find the files here

http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/

in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might find
a src rpm as well.

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Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!

2003-11-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:02, Mof wrote:
> The "rpm -e -nodeps suspend-scripts" didn't work, so it became obvious that it 
> was a kernel problem, so I thought I'd upgrade to the latest kernel, and see 
> what happens, but as I was doing that I noticed something odd in lilo.conf :
> 
> append="quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent"
> 
> First off I really don't know what acpi=ht means.
> What is ht ??
> So I changed it to "on"
> But wait! Look right next to that and you'll see the "causer of all pain"
> "resume=/dev/hda5"
> But /dev/hda5 is my bloody swap partition
> After removing the resume=/dev/hda5, it works fine now!

Yep,  it was using the same partition of the suspend as it was for
swap.  Whereas suspend to swap does use a swap partition to suspend, it
doesn't use one that is mounted and when you use swap it really mucks
with what swsuspend writes there.  In other words if you had a second
swap not in fstab (partitioned in size to about 20% over ram) That isn't
listed in fstab then suspend to swap should work right for you.  
It's up to you if you want to experiment with this or not but if you
have the disk you might want to use this.  

James

> 
> Thanks alot guys for being so patient.
> I should have sent the append line from the start!
> 
> Mof.
> 
> On Tuesday 11 November 2003 00:55, Jack Coates wrote:
> > try rpm -e --nodeps suspend-scripts.
> >
> > On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:45, Mofeed Shahin wrote:
> > > > reply-to still a problem.>
> > >
> > > Yeah must be something I've done with kmail.
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:56, Mof wrote:
> > > >> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:28 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > >> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 16:44, Mof wrote:
> > > >> > > It appears that acpi and apm do the same thing, which is the
> > > >>
> > > >> prefered one to use anyway ?
> > > >>
> > > >> > > And if acpi is the prefered, how do I load up the right modules ?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Mof.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This order of commands should do it.  As root.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > /etc/init.d/apmd stop
> > > >> >
> > > >> > chkconfig apmd off
> > > >> >
> > > >> > /etc/init.d/acpid start
> > > >> >
> > > >> > chkconfig acpid on
> > > >> >
> > > >> > edit lilo (or grup) and change
> > > >> >
> > > >> > append="acpi=off"  to
> > > >> > append="acpi=on"
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This should set you up so that upon a reboot you are running acpi
> > > >>
> > > >> not apm as well as get the right stuff started.  Note acpid won't
> > > >> start if apm is running (conflict avoidence.)
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks James, but even with acpi working, it still hangs.
> > > >>  Even though I have deleted /etc/acpi/events/lid, it still crashes
> > > >> when I
> > > >> close the lid.
> > > >
> > > > did you remember to use service acpid restart after editing that file?
> > >
> > > yes, I even rebooted.
> > >
> > > Arrrgghhh, looks like I'll have to stick with 9.1 until I can work out
> > > what is going on here!!
> > >
> > > Mof.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[expert] MDK 9.2 lilo problem after install of updated kernel 2.4.22-21

2003-11-10 Thread gczerw

I did a completely fresh install of 9.2 and installed lilo with no
problem. However after rebooting, logging in and installing all of the
upgrades successfully, I then downloaded the updated kernel and did
an rpm
-ivh kernel2.4.22-21*.rpm.  The kernel installed, but gave me an error
when updating lilo.

When attempting to manually update lilo with the new information, the
following occurs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# lilo -v
LILO version 22.5.7.2, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2003 John Coffman
Released 20-Aug-2003, and compiled at 16:45:54 on Sep 18 2003

Reading boot sector from /dev/sdd5
part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error

Anyone know why this is happening?  Never had this problem before
9.2!!!

George

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