Re: [expert] lothar freezes system, CDRW not mountable (ide-scsi-error?)
The CD-RW is the biggest thorn in my side right now, and in fact the primary motivation for signing up for the list . . . so it looks like I jumped in at the right time. Here's the deal (I think) . . . I *believe* that the 2.2.14 kernel has gotten broken with regard to IDE-SCSI emulation, and Mandrake very cleverly sets the LILO parameter to force the kernel to try to use the broken code. Thus, noting correctly that I had a CD-RW, Mandrake put the hdc=ide-scsi line into my lilo.conf, which enabled the broken kernel code, and I could not read any of my cdroms, which was a problem since my entire system backup was on them. (I completely re-staged my machine rather than just updating the system partitions because I wanted to totally re-partition it.) I say that the kernel code itself is broken becuase under RedHat 6.1 I rebuilt a kernel with IDE-SCSI emluation and after doing so I could use the /dev/pg0 (CD-RW) device and the /dev/cdrom (/dev/hdc CD-ROM) device without any trouble. Under the Mandrake 7.0 distribution (2.2.14 kernel), I tried exactly the same thing, and then I could write to it just fine, but I couldn't read it. Or I can build without the emulation and I can read it, but not write to it. The best solution I've come up with so far is to build a kernel in which both the IDE SCSI emulation and the IDE ATAPI support are modules, and not specify anything at boot time. That way, I can boot the machine and mount CDs without any trouble, but then I can't read them. Or I can boot and write them but not read them. Whichever I do first after I reboot works fine, but disables the other. This is enough to get me limping along for now, but if I wanted to have to reboot every few hours I'd run WIndows in the first place. Has anybody gotten any further on this than me? I was planning to try to figure out how/where to check on known kernel bugs; though I didn't quite see myself as a "newbie", so I signed up for *this* list, I haven't actually needed to report any kernel bugs before . . . . except in limited areas like the parallel-port project. On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Stephan M. wrote: | >>I can't mount my first CD-drive (a Cyberdrive CDRW) any more!!! | > | >I HAD this same problem too, and I resolved it unloading the IDE-SCSI | >module, then removing Supermount, then rebooting, then reloading IDE-SCSI | >module. | | | thanx, this worked for me, too. But then progs like K-CD and Gnome-CD didn't | find any AudioCDs any more, in none of my two CD-drives ... (now scd0 and | hdd). | Anyway, I found the program grip, which can play CDs in any of my drives | (and of course a lot more ...) | | a second way I've found is to disable/delete the kernel-parameter in lilo | "hdc=ide-scsi" which gives me hdc and hdd as my to CD-drives, but then I | suppose losing CDRW-functionality - or is there any other reason for the | ide-scsi-module? | | sm -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.babbleon.org . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Print screen?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Wayneeither use the screen shot option of gimp (xtns/Screen | Shot) or use K(menu)/Graphics/Snapshopt both of which are | installed as part of your Mandrake distribution. Or just use xv (Use MB3 to bring up the options and pick "grab."). I, for one, don't have K/Graphics/Snapshot . . . but then I'm missing lots of stuff I "should" have because Mandrake is too clever by half and the install process doesn't support my partitioning scheme very well. But I assume that everybody gets xv. (Right?) Or just use the classic copy-and-paste if you just need the contents of a terminal window, for that matter. | Alan | | | "Stout, Wayne" wrote: | > | > Greetings, all... | > | > This is going to sound like a silly question, but how can I get a screen | > print? I'm running 6.1 at work, and when I'm dialed in to a client system or | > trying to prove something to the support department, I need to be able to | > print the screen in my xterm screen. (I currently use either Konsole or | > Powershell) | > | > I've tried the PrtSel and E-PrtSel that I found on freshmeat, but don't have | > much luck with then. | > | > This really came to a head this morning, when W95 gave me a Spool32 error | > right in the middle of a 3 hour upgrade process while dialed in to a client | > site... The print screen is the only thing that's keeping me from getting | > rid of Windows all together. | > | > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. | > | > Wayne -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.babbleon.org . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape 4.72 -- which one for Mandrake 7.0
Mandrake is a glibc-based distribution. But while we're on it . . . Netscape crashes left and right on me under Mandrake 7.0, though it's not Mandrake-specific; it started crashing all the time when I upgraded my RedHat 6.1 distribution to X 3.3.6. Are other people running into this? Is it fixed in Netscape 4.72? Anybody have a clue? On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Chunnuan Chen wrote: | Sam wrote: | | > I see that the new Netscape 4.72 is out. My question is, which version | > do I want for Mandrake 7.0 | > | > under Unix | > Linux 2.0 | > Linux 2.0(glibc) | > | > unsupported Unix | > Linux | > | > TIA, | > Sam | | I downloaded and unpacked the | | unsupported Unix | Linux | | Chunnuan -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.babbleon.org . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] fdisk error, interesting.
The first part of that error really doesn't mean anything.
(Thus the "there's nothing wrong with that" note.)
The second part--the hard read errors--those do, indeed tell you that
you have an actual physical i/o problem of some sort.
You probably have a real "disk crash", hard-read failure. Since a disk
sector is typically (always?) 512 bytes, the total disk size is about
20971520 sectors according to my trusty dc, so it's about half-way
through the disk.
Specifically, the error is about 7.33 Gig into the drive, so if you
could just live with a 7G drive, you might be able to get that much
usable.
You can use fdisk and then do "x" to go into expert mode and then use
"c" to change the number of cylindars. If my calculations are right,
you would be ok with 915 cylinders. (It's either 915 or 982, depending
on whether WD uses 1000^3 or 1024^3 for their "10G" figure.) I might
go with 900 just to err on the side of caution.
There may be better ways to deal with this, but that's as far as my
expertise can take you.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Dana J. Laude wrote:
| Here's a interesting snip after running "fdisk /dev/hdb".
|
|
| The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1247. There is
| nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could
| in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at
| boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from
| other OSs(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
| hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
| Error } hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError },
| LBAsect=15390270, sector=15390270 end_request: I/O error, dev
| 03:40 (hdb), sector 15390270
| Unable to read /dev/hdb
|
|
| This is a WD 10GB drive, EIDE btw. I also tried fdisk from
| Win98,
| and it wouldn't do anything but hang forever. Personally, I
| think
| it's hosed. Any ideas welcome. Just a FYI, but I've tried all
| of
| the normal things, like making it a primary, cable, power, and
| even
| a new motherboard. (I was going to upgrade soon anyway;)
|
| Regards,
|
| Dana
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Re: [expert] Errors on startup
Not sure why it wants to check those two, but if you have a "typical" modern PC system, you don't want to limit it to hda; you want hdc as well, which will be your CD-ROM drive. You could presumably just rm /dev/hdb* /dev/hdd* if you wanted a crude approach to short-circuiting the bogus drive checks. You'd still get an error, presumably, but it ought to be a much faster error. On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: | For some reason, on startup, a couple of my boxes wand to scan for hdb and | hdd devices. There are none. After that, it tries to run Hard Drive | Optimization on those 2 non-existing devices and of course it fails. Other | then the fact that it takes a little longer to start up and displays those 2 | error, nothing seems to be affected. Is there a setting somewhere (Other | then CMOS) to tell linux not to bother checking for anything other then hda. | | Thanks in advance. | Mike Kirkpatrick -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] lothar freezes system, CDRW not mountable (ide-scsi-error?)
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Did you try editing /etc/fstab? For some reason, the install seems to set up | SCSI emulation then neglects to modify fstab as well. Try changing the dev= | line to point to /dev/scd0. Thank you very much! I could have sworn I'd tried this much earlier, but I must have messed it up, 'cause, sho 'nuff, it works! (Actually, I just did: cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s scd0 cdrom instead. This is often a better approach since you do sometimes run into software that "assumes" that the cdrom is at /dev/cdrom.) [Actually, I can't get that append="hdc=ide-scdi" stuff to work right, but then I have my own custom kernel and maybe I messed something up. But if I insmod ide-scsi, I'm golden. I'm now building a kernel with IDE-SCSI support built in and no IDE ATAPI support, and I'm quite confident that this will work . . .] | | Richard | | On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, you wrote: | > The CD-RW is the biggest thorn in my side right now, and in fact the | > primary motivation for signing up for the list . . . so it looks like I | > jumped in at the right time. | > | > Here's the deal (I think) . . . | > | > I *believe* that the 2.2.14 kernel has gotten broken with regard to | > IDE-SCSI emulation, and Mandrake very cleverly sets the LILO parameter | > to force the kernel to try to use the broken code. | > | > Thus, noting correctly that I had a CD-RW, Mandrake put the | > hdc=ide-scsi line into my lilo.conf, which enabled the broken kernel | > code, and I could not read any of my cdroms, which was a problem since | > my entire system backup was on them. | > | > (I completely re-staged my machine rather than just updating the system | > partitions because I wanted to totally re-partition it.) | > | > I say that the kernel code itself is broken becuase under RedHat 6.1 I | > rebuilt a kernel with IDE-SCSI emluation and after doing so I could use | > the /dev/pg0 (CD-RW) device and the /dev/cdrom (/dev/hdc CD-ROM) | > device without any trouble. | > | > Under the Mandrake 7.0 distribution (2.2.14 kernel), I tried exactly | > the same thing, and then I could write to it just fine, but I couldn't | > read it. Or I can build without the emulation and I can read it, but | > not write to it. | > | > The best solution I've come up with so far is to build a kernel in | > which both the IDE SCSI emulation and the IDE ATAPI support are | > modules, and not specify anything at boot time. | > | > That way, I can boot the machine and mount CDs without any trouble, but | > then I can't read them. Or I can boot and write them but not read | > them. Whichever I do first after I reboot works fine, but disables the | > other. This is enough to get me limping along for now, but if I wanted | > to have to reboot every few hours I'd run WIndows in the first place. | > | > Has anybody gotten any further on this than me? I was planning to try | > to figure out how/where to check on known kernel bugs; though I didn't | > quite see myself as a "newbie", so I signed up for *this* list, I | > haven't actually needed to report any kernel bugs before . . . . except | > in limited areas like the parallel-port project. | > | > | > On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Stephan M. wrote: | > | >>I can't mount my first CD-drive (a Cyberdrive CDRW) any more!!! | > | > | > | >I HAD this same problem too, and I resolved it unloading the IDE-SCSI | > | >module, then removing Supermount, then rebooting, then reloading IDE-SCSI | > | >module. | > | | > | | > | thanx, this worked for me, too. But then progs like K-CD and Gnome-CD didn't | > | find any AudioCDs any more, in none of my two CD-drives ... (now scd0 and | > | hdd). | > | Anyway, I found the program grip, which can play CDs in any of my drives | > | (and of course a lot more ...) | > | | > | a second way I've found is to disable/delete the kernel-parameter in lilo | > | "hdc=ide-scsi" which gives me hdc and hdd as my to CD-drives, but then I | > | suppose losing CDRW-functionality - or is there any other reason for the | > | ide-scsi-module? | > | | > | sm | > -- | > I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). | > I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.babbleon.org . | > I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . | > I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html . -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Merging Partitions from Seperate Harddrives - Possible?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Is it possible to merge partitions from separate disks so that they are view as one |partition? | Sure. You just want to use "linear (append) mode." I've never used it, but it's one of the kernel options, and the module is, per the kernel doc (from make xconfig), called linear.o. I fear that the linear.c file doesn't have into on how to use it, but hopefully this is enough to get you going down the right path. | Seve -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Errors on startup
I would have expected this solution to make it not take very long, since it's usually pretty snappy to see that a file isn't there at all. Oh, well, it was worth a shot. As a suggested by another list member, I'd see if these drives are listed in /etc/fstab, though I suspect that not the problem; still, it's worth a shot. Otherwise, I'm afraid I don't know. You might be able to pass some kernel parameters to tell it that you don't have those devices, but I'm afraid I don't know what you'd say for "nothing"; eg, append="hdc=null, hdd=null" (something to that effect), but this is getting beyond what I really know, I'm afraid. On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Sorry, but that did not work. I just got a different error upon startup. The big | time waster is when it sits there trying to detect the non existent hard drives. | It takes longer at that step the it takes to completely come up... The only real | difference in the error was it was unable to find the file instead of saying it | was unable to find the hard drive. There has to be a setting somewhere where I | can disable the hard drive search for the two devices... I am completely at a | loss here. I triple checked my CMOS settings and re-installed RedHat 4 times now | to try to get rid of that. No luck... Any other suggestions? I am willing to | try anything. | | Thanks for quickly responding. | | "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: | | > Not sure why it wants to check those two, but if you have a "typical" | > modern PC system, you don't want to limit it to hda; you want hdc as | > well, which will be your CD-ROM drive. | > | > You could presumably just | > | > rm /dev/hdb* /dev/hdd* | > | > if you wanted a crude approach to short-circuiting the bogus drive | > checks. You'd still get an error, presumably, but it ought to be a | > much faster error. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Errors on startup
Should have read this one first. I think I know what might be, though . . . In case you aren't aware, hda is the first device on the first controller (usually the hard drive), hdb is the second device on the first controller, hdc is the first device on the second controller (usuallly the CD-ROM), and hdd is the second device on the second controller. So it is getting the misimpression that there is a device for which it must probe on the the second (slave) position) on each of the controllers. This is most likely a problem with either your bios settings--the first thing I'd do is go into my bios setup and try disabling them there--or with the physical cabling. If that itsn't enough to solve the problem, perhaps you could a) go back to /dev and MAKEDEV to reverse my earlier advice, b) post the dmesg (/var/log/messages) messages relating to this to the list, and c) If you have a dual-boot system, watch Windows coming up and see what it thinks about your devices. On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Michael D. Kirkpatrick wrote: | Here is what is in my fstab file: | | /dev/hda8 / ext2defaults1 1 | /dev/hda1 /boot ext2defaults1 2 | /dev/hda6 /home ext2defaults1 2 | /dev/hda5 /usrext2defaults1 2 | /dev/hda7 /varext2defaults1 2 | /dev/hda9 swapswapdefaults0 0 | /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto | sync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev,unhide 0 0 | none/proc procdefaults0 0 | none/dev/ptsdevpts mode=0622 0 0 | | It looks correct to me. I don't know why it tries to detect 2 additional hard | drives. It would not be so bad if it would not take 1-2 minutes to do that. On | top of that (To add insult to injury), it tries to optimize them and errors out... | | Argh... This only happens on 3 of my boxes. I currently running 10 boxes and the | other 7 have no problems. The only factor that is common between the 3 boxes are | they are the same type of computer. I need to figure out how to manipulate the | boot routine to tell it not to try checking for 2 non-existing hard drives. The 3 | boxes that have the problem are PIII 550 with 512 Meg of ram and 2-27 GIG HDs. | They are the new boxes I just purchased. The other 7 are old pieces of sh*t that | I picked up at $50 each. They seem to have fewer problems then the new ones do... | | John Aldrich wrote: | | > Check your /etc/fstab file. Make sure only /dev/hda is | > defined (as far as HARD drives are concerned floppy and | > other devices in there should, of course, be left alone!) | > John -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] (OT) tar -- what does it stand for?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Rich Clark wrote: | On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Bug Hunter wrote: | | > | > strange question... | > | > does tar stand for "Tape ARchive" utility? AFAIR, it does, but I'm | > checking with the experts. :) | > | > | | U yeah, it do. Even says so on the man page. You know, I remembered the man page, too, clear as bell: tar - tape archiver but actually on the Mandrake 7.0 distribution, at least, it really says: tar - The GNU version of the tar archiving utility Which I find a bit funny. Seems like it must archive it with dinosaur bones and such in the tar pits . . . but I can see why. It's hardly ever used for tape any more, even if that's what it started out as. [I've only been using Unix since 1981 . . . so my head is filled with obsolte info.] | -- | Rich Clark | | Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html |
[expert] This list: some questions
First of all, I have been very happy with this list for the entire 24 hours or so I've been on it. I have taken care of both of the major hangups I've had with my system, and I've also been able to contribute to helping other people. It's a really wonderful resource, but I do have a few questions; to wit, What is the relationship betwen this list and the linux-mandrake bug reports? I know that if I want an answer/workround quickly, this list can't be beat, and I know that if I find a "serious" bug (whatever that means) I can report it on the bug report page, but where I should I got with general complaints and suggestions about how the Mandrake folks could improve their distribution? If I post it here will the right people see it? Do they mind if marginal "bugs" are reported on the "bugs" page? And do the denizens of this list like to see suggestions for Mandrake anyway? Is there a FAQ for the list? Is it really necessary for this list to be set up so that "reply" replies to the entire list and group reply replies to the list *twice*? I've sent a number of replies meant for individuals to the list and/or sent replies to the list twice. It would appear that I'm not the only one, at least for doing the former. (Ok, I'm really just blowing off steam here. Of course it'd mess up all the people who are used to it if it were changed at this point.) -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape 4.72 -- which one for Mandrake 7.0
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, you wrote: | "Brian T. Schellenberger" écrivit : | | > Mandrake is a glibc-based distribution. | > | > But while we're on it . . . | > | > Netscape crashes left and right on me under Mandrake 7.0, though it's | > not Mandrake-specific; it started crashing all the time when I upgraded | > my RedHat 6.1 distribution to X 3.3.6. | > | > Are other people running into this? Is it fixed in Netscape 4.72? | | Hi, | | It's fixed in all Netscape-4.70-*mdk (except 4.70-5mdk). It's also fixed | in 4-72-1mdk. Well, I have the strandard Mandrake 7.0 distribution, which has: netscape-communicator-4.70-6mdk.i586.rpm and I have never seen a less stable version in my entire life, though it is just *as* unstable as the 4.70 *and* 4.57 versions under RedHat 6.1 after being upgraded to X 3.3.6 with the Mach64 driver. On the other hand, I've never seen a *more* stable version than that very same 4.57 version under RedHat 6.1 while running X 3.3.5 with the framebuffer driver. | You need: netscape-common, netscape-communicator OR netscape-navigator, | compat-libs and compat-glibc packages. | | You can find them in Cooker | (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fcrypto.php3) | | If you want a 128 bits version, look at htpp://www.mandrake.com/crypto/ | in some hours. | | | Regards, | | David BAUDENS | -- | Linux Mandrake http://www.mandrake.com/ | --David -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] cdrecord woes (and something to try w/r/t blanking)
As a first try, you might want to try giving the -force option and see whether that works for you. But, once again, as seems to happen so often on this list, a topic comes up just as I am about to bring up the subject myself. I am having some severe problems with writing CDs under Mandrake 7.0; thye are coming out corrupt! This is a bit distressing since I have been, and intended to continue, using CD-ROMs as my primary backup medium. But yesterday I discovered that although cdrecord thinks that it has succeeeded, the actual contents of the CDs tend to be corrupt, and if I turn around and "cmp" a long binary file that I write with cdrecord, it's corrupt. This did not happen with RedHat 6.1. I should admit up front that, as a result of problems documented earlier in the list, I've built my own kernel, but I built it in exactly the same way that I had built it under RedHat 6.1, so I believe that the situation is comparable. And I'm burning the same kids of CDs, at the same speed, on the same hardware, as I was under RedHat. Any ideas? [bts@i7500 hero]# mkisofs hc.zip | cdrecord dev=0,0 speed=4 - Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'MATSHITA' Identifikation : 'UJDA310 ' Revision : '1.32' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO cdrecord: WARNING: Track size unknown. Data may not fit on disk. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in write mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 9 seconds.Total extents actually written = 1062 Total translation table size: 0 Total rockridge attributes bytes: 0 Total directory bytes: 0 Path table size(bytes): 10 Max brk space used 3000 1062 extents written (2 Mb) 1 seconds. WARNING: padding up to secsize. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 2174993/2177024 (1063 sectors). [bts@i7500 hero]# mount /E [bts@i7500 hero]# cmp hc.zip /E/hc.zip hc.zip /E/hc.zip differ: char 983041, line 3746 On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Hi, | | I'm just doing my first steps in cd-burning. : | # cdrecord blank=all dev=4,0 | | Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in write mode for single session. | Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds. | | It starts working but after a *long* time I get this final verdict: | | cdrecord: I/O-Error. blank unit: scsi sendcmd: retryable error | CDB: A1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) | Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 04 2C 6C 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 07 00 00 | Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 | Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x07 (write error - recovery needed) Fru 0x0 | Sense flags: Blk 273516 (valid) | cmd finished after 1914.743s timeout 9600s | cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. | | Is it a matter of medium? I use BASF (silver/silver) CD-RW 650M / 74 Min | | How can I use CD-RWs with cdrecord so I can blank and reuse them? | | BTW: I already did man cdrecord (there I found the blank command). I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] cdrecord woes (and something to try w/r/t blanking)
I've already solved my own problem. The version of cdrecord and/or mkisofs in the Mandrake 7.0 distribution is broken. I used the versions included with "scdbackup" and they work just fine. I must say that this is just one of a NUMBER of reasons why I like the mailing list a lot but I never plan to install another Mandrake distibution again. The best distribution, IMHO, BTW, is Caldera's OpenLinux; as soon as they come out with an X 3.3.6+ -based distribution I'll be switching back . . . though I wish that I could get a Pentium-optimized distribution that I liked . . . [Actually, I like FreeBSD even better but it doesn't support vmware or the Sparq drive, and I'm afraid that's fatal.] On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | As a first try, you might want to try giving the -force option and see | whether that works for you. | | But, once again, as seems to happen so often on this list, a topic | comes up just as I am about to bring up the subject myself. I am | having some severe problems with writing CDs under Mandrake 7.0; thye | are coming out corrupt! | | This is a bit distressing since I have been, and intended to continue, | using CD-ROMs as my primary backup medium. But yesterday I discovered | that although cdrecord thinks that it has succeeeded, the actual | contents of the CDs tend to be corrupt, and if I turn around and "cmp" | a long binary file that I write with cdrecord, it's corrupt. | | This did not happen with RedHat 6.1. | | I should admit up front that, as a result of problems documented | earlier in the list, I've built my own kernel, but I built it in | exactly the same way that I had built it under RedHat 6.1, so I believe | that the situation is comparable. And I'm burning the same kids of | CDs, at the same speed, on the same hardware, as I was under RedHat. | | Any ideas? | | [bts@i7500 hero]# mkisofs hc.zip | cdrecord dev=0,0 speed=4 - | Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling | scsidev: '0,0' | scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 | Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' | Device type: Removable CD-ROM | Version: 0 | Response Format: 1 | Vendor_info: 'MATSHITA' | Identifikation : 'UJDA310 ' | Revision : '1.32' | Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. | Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). | Driver flags : SWABAUDIO | cdrecord: WARNING: Track size unknown. Data may not fit on disk. | Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in write mode for single session. | Last chance to quit, starting real write in 9 seconds.Total extents actually written |= 1062 | Total translation table size: 0 | Total rockridge attributes bytes: 0 | Total directory bytes: 0 | Path table size(bytes): 10 | Max brk space used 3000 | 1062 extents written (2 Mb) 1 seconds. | | WARNING: padding up to secsize. | Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 2174993/2177024 (1063 sectors). | [bts@i7500 hero]# mount /E | [bts@i7500 hero]# cmp hc.zip /E/hc.zip | hc.zip /E/hc.zip differ: char 983041, line 3746 | | | On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, you wrote: | | Hi, | | | | I'm just doing my first steps in cd-burning. | : | | # cdrecord blank=all dev=4,0 | | | | Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in write mode for single session. | | Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds. | | | | It starts working but after a *long* time I get this final verdict: | | | | cdrecord: I/O-Error. blank unit: scsi sendcmd: retryable error | | CDB: A1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | | status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) | | Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 04 2C 6C 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 07 00 00 | | Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 | | Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x07 (write error - recovery needed) Fru 0x0 | | Sense flags: Blk 273516 (valid) | | cmd finished after 1914.743s timeout 9600s | | cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. | | | | Is it a matter of medium? I use BASF (silver/silver) CD-RW 650M / 74 Min | | | | How can I use CD-RWs with cdrecord so I can blank and reuse them? | | | | BTW: I already did man cdrecord (there I found the blank command). | | I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). | I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . | I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . | I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html . -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape 4.72 -- which one for Mandrake 7.0
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, David BAUDENS wrote: | "Brian T. Schellenberger" écrivit : | | > | It's fixed in all Netscape-4.70-*mdk (except 4.70-5mdk). It's also fixed | > | in 4-72-1mdk. | > | > Well, I have the strandard Mandrake 7.0 distribution, which has: | > | > netscape-communicator-4.70-6mdk.i586.rpm | > | > and I have never seen a less stable version in my entire life, | | Hi, | | Have you do an update ? If yes, unistall compat-glibc and compat-libs | packages (and delete directories if they are not deleted), and reinstall | them. Update seems don't work very good for theses packages on some | configurations. | | If you have do a clean install, can you be more precise ? When, how and | on which site Netscape crashes ? Have you enable Java ? JavaScript ? It is a clean install, and there are two problems: a) Some specific sites, such as "my excite home page" will crash quite predictably, but at least it's fixed in the Mozilla alpha so I can visiit them with that, and it's messages make it clear that it has corrupt Java anyway. | Is Netscape crash when you close one window ? If yes, it's a glibc | problem. Either compat-*lib* packages are damage, either you start | Netscape with /usr/bin/netscape-communicator or | /usr/bin/netscape-navigator instead /usr/bin/netscape. It's notably the | case if you use Gnome. .desktop are buggy before 4.72-1mdk version. BINGO!!! Yes, it's been crashing all the time when I close just one window, and I actualy run it through a script from [EMAIL PROTECTED], which does, in fact, bypass the netscape script. This script was actually *fixing* a problem I was having back when I started using it, but I'll bet it's *causing* my problem now. I cannot thank you enough. This is actually the whole reason I was trying an upgrade in the first place (the Netscape instability), and if it's really fixed, you just sold me on Mandrake.
Re: [expert] cdrecord woes (and something to try w/r/t blanking)
Perhaps an incompatibility, then, but simply using different versions oof those two problems fixes the problem. The mkisofs that works is 1.12b3 (based on the "-v" flag) the cdrecord is 1.53 (based on the "strings" info). I can try doing mkisofs to the loopback device if it's of interest to you. On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, you wrote: | "Brian T. Schellenberger" écrivit : | | > I've already solved my own problem. | > | > The version of cdrecord and/or mkisofs in the Mandrake 7.0 | > distribution is broken. I used the versions included with "scdbackup" | > and they work just fine. | | Hi, | | No. I use this version each day and it's work perfectly here (and on a | lot of computers). If cdrecord don't work for you, it's probably a | hardware problem or an incompatibility with cdrecord and your hardware. | | | Regards, | | David BAUDENS | -- | Linux Mandrake http://www.mandrake.com/ | --David -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Login Problems
The exact same thing happened to me when my machine crashed I wiped out the /tmp directory . . . I just re-installed (rpm -U --force) the base X and fontsserver packages, and voila! all was fine again. (The fontserver is X-something-fs-something.) On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Anyone here know which files i need to check when i can't loging using | the GUI. I had a power failure and i think that some of my files may | heve been corrupted. Thankfully my superuser can still login, but if i | put in my password and username, the login prompt goes away as if it | will login, then just brings me back to the prompt. I tried to create a | new user and loging that way, but i get the same result as my already | created user. I then changed my runlevel to 3 and tried t ologin using | the text interface, but whe ni ran startx i got an error about xfonts | not opening and it wouldn't load. I think i may have 2 problems now. | Anyone know how to fixd atleast one of them? | | Jeff -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] cdrecord woes (and something to try w/r/t blanking)
Ok, I have *a* particular file that is consistently corrupted by it; I have some other files that work ok. Unfortunately my test file is copyrighted. But I'll try to dig up a file that I can legally post as a sample that is consistently corrupted and maybe we can see if anybody else sees the same behavior. I will also try playing with the loopback device in order to isolate whether it's cdrecord or mkisofs that is causing the trouble. But having made a dozen coasters with the MDK-supplied programs, and perfectly fine results with the scdbackup-supplied programs, there's definately *something* going on. The mkisofs that works is 1.12b3 (based on the "-v" flag) the cdrecord is 1.53 (based on the "strings" info). PS: . . .and once again a reply that I meant for one person went to the list; I'd meant to send my earlier cdrecord-related post to just Mr. Baudens. Sorry, once again. On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, you wrote: | On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Mike Hahn wrote: | | > All of this said. Can I ask for the facts? Does any one know what the | > last "working" Mandrake disto. of cdrecord is? | | Mike, I don't know why Brian is having problems but I can say for a fact | that the Mandrake 7.0 distro comes with a perfectly working cdrecord as | far as I'm concerned. I have written to CDRW's, blanked them, and written | to regular CD-R's with the cdrecord included in Mandrake 7.0 and have yet | to have a problem. They work when booted into Win98 and they work on the | other machine Mandrake 7.0 machine as well. | | I wish I could have given Brian an easy fix, but I couldn't so I kept my | mouth shut. But I had to make known the fact that cdrecord does work and | it works fine here. FYI, it's 1.8a29-3mdk for a version number. | | -- | Vincent Danen, ICQ: 54924721 . telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org | BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta . Freezer Burn BBS | Linux Information and other Goodies at Freezer Burn: www.freezer-burn.org -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] cdrecord problem with Mdk 7.0
Um, yes, this very issue has been under active discussion for the past 36 hours or so. You might want to check the archives. I will chime in here that I *always* burn with a pipe. Do the folks for whom it is working burn with a pipe or a buffer file? On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, you wrote: | I upgraded from Mdk 6.1 to 7.0 this weekend, and ran into a rather odd | problem with cdrecord. I have a script that burns data CDs by piping | stdout of mkisofs straight into cdrecord, like | |mkisofs -J -r | cdrecord -v fs=8m ... | | However, with the Mdk7 rpm for cdrecord, this produces a corrupt CD! | It works fine if you create an image explicitly, but using a pipe like | this results in binary corruption of the individual files. The | file/dir structure looks OK though. | | I uninstalled the Mdk7 rpm and installed the latest cdrecord tarball | (cdrecord-1.8.1a01.tar.gz), and now things work fine again. | | Has anybody else seen this? | | -- Alex -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] LM 7.0 SCSI Install
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Ron, | | Just install as follows. (you can vary it after the swap | and / partitions.) | | sda1 - swap, 110M. | sda2 - / (root) 400M | sda3 - /usr 3000M | sda4 - extended partion for remainder of hd | sda5 - /home (whatever amount) | sda6 - /opt (same as above) | -- etc, you might want a seperate /var, etc. .. . . and if you have separate /var and /tmp partitions, then 64M is more than generous as a size for /. .. . . and it's a Really Good Idea to put /usr and /usr/local on seperate partiions; that way, when you upgrade you can let it blap all over /usr with impunity without trashing /usr/local. | | Basically, it depends on what your going to | do with the system. (workstation, server, etc.) | | The key is the first 2 partitions, notice how | they reside within the hd limit. ;) | | Regards, | | Dana | | "Ronald J. Yacketta" wrote: | > | > Hello All!! | > | > I have don tons and tons and tons of linux installs (from Slackware to | > RH and now LM) on local IDE drives (hda/hdb etc..) | > I am currently seeking info on how to get LM installed on a 9gb SCSI | > drive. | > I am able to boot the cdrom, load my scsi drive, see my scsi disks | > install the os | > to the scsi disk, install lilo. | > when I reboot I get the infamous "LI" and wham it hangs, nothing more | > and nothing less. What am I missing here? could this be the 1024 | > cylinder problem? if so, resolutions? ( I know, go ahead and flame me | > with read the HOW-TO's etc..) -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] cdrecord problem with Mdk 7.0
Check out the howto (which unfortunately doesn't seem to be in the Mandrake 7.0 installation). And the ansser is yes, that burns it. To copy, you can just extract the bits with dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image-file and then re-burn them with cdrecord dev=0,0 speed=4 image-file [In theory; haven't had a reason to do this yet myself.] On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Alex, | | You sound knowledgeable about CD burning...maybe you could lend some advice. | | I recently got a CD-RW drive, but I haven't yet burned a CD in Linux. | | Does the command "mkisofs -J -r | cdrecord -v fs=8m ..." make an ISO | filesystem on the CD-R and then burn the contents of onto the newly | formatted CD? | | What is the best way to make an "exact" copy of a CD in Linux (including the | CD boot sector, etc.)? I only have one CD drive (my CD-RW drive), and I'm | trying to avoid the graphical frontends for now. | | | Thanks, | Matt | | | | | >From: Alex ZIJDENBOS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Subject: [expert] cdrecord problem with Mdk 7.0 | >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:20:43 -0500 | > | >I upgraded from Mdk 6.1 to 7.0 this weekend, and ran into a rather odd | >problem with cdrecord. I have a script that burns data CDs by piping | >stdout of mkisofs straight into cdrecord, like | > | >mkisofs -J -r | cdrecord -v fs=8m ... | > | >However, with the Mdk7 rpm for cdrecord, this produces a corrupt CD! | >It works fine if you create an image explicitly, but using a pipe like | >this results in binary corruption of the individual files. The | >file/dir structure looks OK though. | > | >I uninstalled the Mdk7 rpm and installed the latest cdrecord tarball | >(cdrecord-1.8.1a01.tar.gz), and now things work fine again. | > | >Has anybody else seen this? | > | >-- Alex | | __________ | Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Auto Log On ... is it possible?
You would probably have more luck if you set your run-level down to 3 to inhibit kdm/xdm. Then you should be able to just "su" to whomever at the end of rc.local and "startx" . . . . or, perhaps better, set up a "startuser" script that is SUID to the desired user and have *that* do a startx. This is theory, of course. I've never done such a thing myself. On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, you wrote: | When my Linux box boots up I have it go directly into X, I then have to log | on to get a KDE desktop, and run any application programs in the autostart | folder ( which display status information on the VDU ). | | Question | | Is it possible so that after boot, it logs on itself as some user (not root!) | then goes into X and KDE then starts the application programs running without | someone having to log it in with a username and password. | | regards | Melvyn Pearce | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] One more question and a thanx too
I'm not sure how clear this is yet, so I hope this clarifies: First, the reason that you aren't supposed to run as root is because root has all the priviliges necessary to completely destroy your system. Even if you could grant another user those same privileges (and you can't; that's fundamental to the Unix security model), there would be no purpose to it: if the user "bob" had all the power of root, it would be just as wrong to run as "bob" as it currently is to run as root. If you want to give bob the ability to run certain services, then you must do two things: 1. Add bob to the root group; and 2. Ensure that the service in question has group access. For example, chmod g+r /var/log/messages chmod g+rx /sbin/linuxconf In order to actually do linuxconf sort of "stuff", though, you'll have to make all of those services available to bob as well, or you'll have to actually chmod u+s /sbin/linuxconf The latter isn't so bad as long as /sbin/linuxconf denies "o" (world) rx privileges. If the above was greek you might want to consider studying up a bit. (And perhaps it's the newbie list that you want.) On the other hand, "su" is the usual way to deal with this. I always personally just keep up a shell that is su'ed to root and when I need to do something priviliged to change into my "root" workspace and have at it. - B U T - Please keep in mind that it is, as you've heard, a very, very bad, dangerous idea to always run as root under Linux, BUT It's no *worse* than runing Windows 3.1/95/98. As anybody. The only thing that root has is the privilege to change any file or modify any service. Under the Microsoft consumer-oriented operating systems (and under Macintosh for that matter), you *always* have the ability to change any file or modify any service. If you are happy with having abolute power and you don't want to learn to live in a more constrained environment; if you don't really care that much about the risk of viruses and trojan horses; if security isn't a priority for you . . . Then just keep on running as root and don't sweat it. Increased security always implies decreased covenience, and as long as you aren't on a dedicated line (cable modem or DSL), and you aren't running any network servers, you are basically only risking your own system. And even so it's still safer than running Windows, just becuase most Linux users are being more secure than this, and this "community health" effect protects you even if you don't follow such secure practices, by discouraging virus writers from even trying, and by making them spread much less efficiently. (Sort of like how if everybody else gets innoculated it helps you.) On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, you wrote: | Thanx for everybody for the answers regarding the hosts.allow and hosts.deny | files... I got them rectified... | | However, I have one more simple (?) question in regards to users privledges. | As per the instructions during installation I create a different or new user | other than root. However, I've been using root all this time for my | configuration and learning of this system. I've been told time and time | again that I shouldn't be using the root, so I went into linuxconf to change | the permissions of the one user I did create. I wanted to give that user | SuperUser access, the ability to run linuxconf, and view the system logs. | However, after setting these options, and loggin in as that user, I'm still | restricted. I cannot run linuxconf, nor can I peruse the /var/log | directory. I've gone back into linuxconf as root and the changes I made for | that user still exist as I set them, but none of them are in effect. | | I even made the user of the root group to no avail... could somebody help | me out either by telling me what I'm missing, or at least direct me in the | correct direction for solving this little mystery? | | thanx | | Joseph E. Sheble | a.k.a. Wizaerd | Wizaerd's Realm | http://www.wizaerd.com | Featuring 3D, Canvas, and ColdFusion | ============ | CF Developer for iTOOL.com | http://www.itool.com | Build Your WebSite Today! | -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Auto Log On ... is it possible?
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000, you wrote: | As a matter of fact... Cron is very flexible. I use it to start seti at boot | time (well, kind of boot-time). You can set cron to execute a command every | minute or every 5 minutes, or whatever... If the program does not protect | against running multiple instances at once (like seti does), just write a script | that checks if the program is running, and starts it if it isn't. That's not too | hard. | | Anyway, I don't really see the difference between starting something at | boot-time, or a few minutes after boot-time. | | And the crontab-option is far more elegant too, than meddling with rc.local | (although somebody else will probably have a different opinion). I would have a different opinion. rc.local is *designed* to do things a boot time; cron is designed to do things on a reguar basis. Seems more elegant to me use programs for the purpose for which they were designed, and a solution that requires patching up a program to see if it's already running is (IMHO) strong evidence that a kludge is being pursued. (Actually, in general, I dislike programs that check to see if they are already running, or that refuse to run multiple copies simultaneously. Seems not to be in the spirit of Unix to me. Granted that a *few* programs, such as X servers or mail programs to a given destination, might have good reason to need to do so.) -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
lack of documentation (was Re: [expert] Removing supermount)
On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, Axalon wrote: | On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, alann wrote: | | > Just curious, does supermount NOT work?? Why are so many people wanting to remove |it? | | No supermount does work. | | It like everything else has basic do's and dont's that some people don't | care to learn, I'm sorry, I've stayed restrained for a long time, but . . . Where do you get off saying that people "don't care to learn"??? HOW THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT? The man entry for supermount doesn't discuss any of this. THERE ARE NO #@$! HOWTOS IN MANDRAKE 7.0!!! I've been using Unix for 19 years, and Linux for 6, but I've not been reading minds at all. The sources of information I'm used to consulting don't explain this, and when I installed Mandrake 7.0, my devices were just plain WRONG. I am rather offended at the suggestion that this somehow represents laziness on my part. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Removing supermount
As I gather it, supermount works . . . .. . . but not for a CD-RW, and my only CD-ROM is a CD-RW. .. . . but not for ext2 floppies, and I tried one of those second. .. . . but not for an LS-120 drive (I don't have one of those, at least). .. . . but not with filesystem of "auto" (which I happen to like). So my take is that it's not quite "ready for prime time," though if you have a thoroughly conventional system which you use in a thoroughly conventional way . . . well, then, you're running Windows, then, aren't you? . . . I mean, then it would work for you. I have a somewhat unconventional system and I've been using Unixy systems for nearly 20 years now and I found Supermount just got in my way. YMMV.
Re: lack of documentation (was Re: [expert] Removing supermount)
Well, I don't save all my old e-mails, but I posted to the cooker list on Sun 27 Feb with "Suggestions/Problems (& praise) w/rt Mandrake 7.0" and a brief reprise on Thu 2 Mar wondering if anybody had read it. I've mentioned the problem with me not being able to find the how-tos in at least least a couple other mails, at least one of which was on the expert list. Since I was trying to save from exploding the messages with the postings (and after asking the cooker list how folks preferred that I do it) I hadn't posted specifically on the "howto" topic. It was in that "Suggestions" mail. W/r/t to the supermount, I've posted in Tue 7 Mar and at other times. Also, FWIW (I don't know if this gets back to you folks or not) I had a problem related to supermount and my CD-RW mailed into Macmillan's support line the day I installed Mandrake 7.0. I've posted at least four times w/r/t to this topic since I got on this list. I don't think I've exactly been a shrinking violet about the problems I've had with supermount. I'll forward you both my most recent mail about supermount and my mail about numerous issues after I send this one.
Re: [expert] OT (possibly) Linux and SMP
That's not the most common symptom of supermount problems, but why not just try a simple experiment . . . cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.safe /* Just to be paranoid! */ supermount disable If you don't hang, then great! you've found the problem and solved it. You'll just have to remember to "mount" and "umount" your devices. If you still hang, you've at least eliminated a possible cause; supermount enable -or- cp /etc/fstab.safe /etc/fstab On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, Civileme wrote: | .wrote: | >> | > Now the only other issue is the SMP kernel. That issue is another story and can |still be considered one of the blacker | > arts, like configuring sendmail with no accessory tools to help you. Almost | > always, it can be accomplished with perseverence and BIOS upgrades, on machines | > more recent than Pentium Pros, at least, but it is sufficiently challenging in | > some circumstances to give you a warm sense of achievement when you see the | > login prompt. | > | > Civileme | | Where might one go to learn these, the darkest of arts? I can | build the Kernel, I can even get it to boot, but getting the system running | after that, well, thats a different story. | | as a related question, When the init scroll says `Mounting other | Filesystems' (the point where my machine hangs), Is this supermount thats | having a bad day, or is it something else??? | | -- | Shawn Somers AKA Razer | ICQ UIN: 1867109 | programmer, renderer, audio fanatic! | wrote:wrote: -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
RE: [expert] Changing case or extensions
I don't have mmv on my system or anywhere on the Mandrake 7.0 install disk. Do you know where I can it? Sounds cool . . . On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, you wrote: | man mmv | | (multiple move) | | Will allow you to do something like mmv *.BMP *.bmp | | Mathieu | | > -Original Message- | > From: Gary Bunker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | > Sent: 03 March 2000 18:10 | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > Subject: [expert] Changing case or extensions | > | > | > I used to know how to do this, but now my brain is full. | > | > How can I change the case, or extension of a lot of files at | > once. For | > example, I have a directory of BMPs that a friend sent from | > his digital | > camera (yeah, I know, bad format, but it's not me). I want to make | > them all bmp instead of BMP extensions. I can't remember | > how, although | > I recall it was something simple. | > | > Thanks | > -- | > | > --- | > Nil Carborundum Illegitimi | > http://andysocial.com | > -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] keyboard mapping and login problems.
Well, you could hit the num-lock key for now . . . On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > Well that is the paranoia level. Only root should be permitted to authorize | > users at any time. | | --- Did you mean only root can login at any time? How to allow the other user | to login? | |That is a numlock for a laptop bet u is 4 i is 5 etc Set up to start | with numlock off. | | --- How to change the startup status of numlock? | Thanks | | Chunnuan | | | | Civileme wrote: | | > On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > > I installed LM 7.02 with the highest security in my Dell Latitude | > > laptop. Now I have two problems: | > > 1. When run at leve 5, only the root account can login even though I | > > can su to other regular users after I login as root. | > > 2. When run at level 3, some keys in the right half of my keybord are | > > messed up, for example, when you press 'i', you will see '4' or | > > something like that. So I cannot do anything with the login prompt. | > > Has someone met some problems of this kind? What are the possible | > > reasons? | > > Thanks, | > > Chunnuan | > | > Hmmm, | > | > Well that is the paranoia level. Only root should be permitted to authorize | > users at any time. | > | | > That is a numlock for a laptop bet u is 4 i is 5 etc Set up to start | > with numlock off. | | > Civileme -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Need help fixing my cdrom access, after upgrade to Mandrake 7.0
Unrecognized mount option uid | | I added a link to dev/cdrom using the command as suggested in a cdrom | howto. | ln -sf /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom | and here is a copy of my fstab; | | /dev/hda1 /mnt/nt ntfs exec,dev,suid,ro,noauto 1 1 | /dev/hda2 /mnt/nt-d ntfs exec,dev,suid,ro,noauto 1 1 | /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 | /dev/hda6 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 | /dev/hda7 swap_upgrade swap defaults 0 0 | /dev/hda8 /opt ext2 defaults 1 2 | /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy supermount exec,dev,suid,rw,fs=vfat 0 0 | none /proc proc defaults 0 0 | none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 | /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto user,exec,dev,suid,rw 0 0 | /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,exec,dev,suid,rw,uid=500 1 1 | | This was after I fixed the entries for zip, cdrom, and floppy, the | install had messed these up, and I | have gotten my zip to work again, but I can't seem to get the cdrom to | work. | | Any Ideas?? -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
RE: [expert] Changing case or extensions
Oh, yeah. And the traditional solution is something like (in csh) foreach fn (*.BMP) mv $fn $fn:r.bmp end On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I don't have mmv on my system or anywhere on the Mandrake 7.0 install | disk. | | Do you know where I can it? Sounds cool . . . | | | On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, you wrote: | | man mmv | | | | (multiple move) | | | | Will allow you to do something like mmv *.BMP *.bmp | | | | Mathieu | | | | > -Original Message- | | > From: Gary Bunker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | > Sent: 03 March 2000 18:10 | | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | > Subject: [expert] Changing case or extensions | | > | | > | | > I used to know how to do this, but now my brain is full. | | > | | > How can I change the case, or extension of a lot of files at | | > once. For | | > example, I have a directory of BMPs that a friend sent from | | > his digital | | > camera (yeah, I know, bad format, but it's not me). I want to make | | > them all bmp instead of BMP extensions. I can't remember | | > how, although | | > I recall it was something simple. | | > | | > Thanks | | > -- | | > | | > --- | | > Nil Carborundum Illegitimi | | > http://andysocial.com | | > | -- | I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). | I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . | I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . | I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html . -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] ghostscript erros
wrong ghostview installed by default. rpm -U --force /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/ghostscript-both* On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hi, | |I'm having a problem with ghostscript opening some postscript files. | I get the error: unknown device x11alpha | Anyone know what this means and how to fix it? | | Thanks. | Sheldon. | -- | == | "Definitions involving chicken heads no longer apply." | -Jon katz | == -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape closing too many windows
Make sure that you invoke it as "netscape" and not as "netcape-communicator" or "netscape-navigator" or via a shell script from anybody other than Mandrake that invokes it as one of those two things. On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I've nuked the Netscape RPMs that came with Mandrake 7 in order to use | the US-crypto version (can't find an RPM for it anywhere). | | Now, it closes all windows when it should close one. This is not an | "all the time" thing, but often enough to make me want to kill | Netscape's programmers. | | I've tried an earlier suggestion someone had, of uninstalling and | reinstalling the compatibility libraries, and that made absolutely no | difference. | | Anyone have a 100% fix for this, or should I go back to 4.70 and use | Fortify to get my 128-bit encryption up? | -- | | --- | Nil Carborundum Illegitimi | http://andysocial.com -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Problem Mounting Floppy Disk
cd / | prompt# fdformat /dev/fd0H1440 | prompt# mke2fs -c /dev/fd0 1440 | prompt# mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy | prompt# cd /etc | prompt# cp profile /mnt/floppy (drive light goes on) | prompt# cd /mnt/floppy | prompt# ls -la (see two things: "profile" and "lost+found" | prompt# cd /(you cannot unmount when in the directory). | prompt# umount /mnt/floppy | prompt# ls -la /mnt/floppy (should say 0 files) OK. | prompt# cp /etc/bashrc /mnt/floppy (copy this text file over) | prompt# ls -la /mnt/floppy (should show ONLY "bashrc") | prompt# mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy | prompt# ls -la /mnt/floppy (will show "profile" "lost+found" but |NOT "bashrc". | prompt# umount /mnt/floppy | prompt# ls -la /mnt/floppy (now shows "bashrc" oNLY) | | Ain't that the cat's meow? | | Now, if you have /etc/fstab set up correctly, you can use the | abbreviated command: | | prompt# mount /mnt/cdrom | instead of the longer command | prompt# mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy | but please note that it depends on what /etc/fstab has in it | regarding the floppy device. | | On thing that you have to be VERY CAREFUL of when you edit | /etc/fstab. | MAKE CERTAIN that none of the lines wrap. Each line MUST begin | in /dev/whatever and end in 0 0 or the two digits for fsck. If | they wrap, so you have something like this ANYWHERE: | | /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppyext2 | noauto 0 0 | | as two lines, your system will NOT BE BOOTABLE. If you are using | the pico editor on /etc/fstab, be absolutely certain that you | use the -w option and that you check for line wraps with more, | less | or cat. This is absolutely CRITICAL: | | prompt# cd /etc | prompt# pico -w fstab | | Another file you don't want to screw up with line wraps is the | /etc/inittab file. There are actually many such files in the | system, but those two will prevent booting, so don't say that | Ramon encouraged experimenting and did not warn you. You can | usually get back in with "linux single" at the LILO prompt or | with a rescue disk. So I suggest you create a backup of these | files first. Then if you screw up, go in as rescue mode and | recopy the files. Example: | | prompt# cd /etc | prompt# cp fstab fstab.bak (creates a copy of it as fstab.bak) | prompt# pico -w fstab(lets assume you screw fstab up) | Reboot. Does not boot. | Go into rescue mode. | bash# cd /etc | bash# pwd (make sure you are in etc) | bash# mv fstab.bak fstab | | or, a lengthier alternative: | bash# mv fstab fstab.bad | bash# mv fstab.bak fstab | | Reboot. | | In the later case, you have fstab.bad that you can peruse to | discover the error of your ways. | | Play around. Worse comes to worse, you will get some training | in OS rescue, something totally lacking in Windows 95/98. | | | | | -- | Ramon Gandia = Sysadmin == Nook Net | http://www.nook.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 285 West First Avenue tel. 907-443-7575 | P.O. Box 970 fax. 907-443-2487 | Nome, Alaska 99762-0970 Alaska Toll Free. 888-443-7525 -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape closing too many windows
Well, the netscape script that Mandrake provided was there to provide a fix for the problem of closing extra windows, so if you wiped it out, that explains why you're having the problem . . . It's a pretty compex /bin/sh script, so I don't have any immediate suggestions . . . now that 128-bit encryption can be legally exported from the recently-enlightened US of A, there's no reason I can see why Mandrake couldn't package up a 128-bit version. You might to wait for that to happen. I have downloaded both opera and mozilla; I found mozilla more useful in its current state but neither of them is in a terribly useful state right now. They do both have Alpha versions out for Linux that you can play with, though. On Sun, 05 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I have completely wiped all the Mandrake-specific stuff for Netscape | from the system, including the shell script that once resided at | /usr/bin/netscape, because I could not upgrade to the 128-bit version | of Netscape and use that script without reprogramming and I'm no | programmer. | | I have no scripts of any kind, and the NS files are all installed in | the default NS-Install directory of /opt/netscape. To make my life | easier and avoid adding to my already lengthy PATH, I made a link to | Netscape at /usr/bin/netscape. Now, the program works just as before, | but it will often kill extra windows. | | I have tried to use the File-Close command, rather than the Close | widget, and it doesn't matter. About half of the time, when I close | one window, all of them close. | | When does Opera come out? :-) | | On 4 Mar, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | > | > Make sure that you invoke it as "netscape" and not as | > "netcape-communicator" or "netscape-navigator" or via a shell script | > from anybody other than Mandrake that invokes it as one of those two | > things. | > | > | > On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > | I've nuked the Netscape RPMs that came with Mandrake 7 in order to use | > | the US-crypto version (can't find an RPM for it anywhere). | > | | > | Now, it closes all windows when it should close one. This is not an | > | "all the time" thing, but often enough to make me want to kill | > | Netscape's programmers. | > | | > | I've tried an earlier suggestion someone had, of uninstalling and | > | reinstalling the compatibility libraries, and that made absolutely no | > | difference. | > | | > | Anyone have a 100% fix for this, or should I go back to 4.70 and use | > | Fortify to get my 128-bit encryption up? | -- | | --- | Nil Carborundum Illegitimi | http://andysocial.com -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Problem Mounting Floppy Disk
On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Ramon, | Thankyou for your concise and thoughtful reply. I have saved it for future | reference. I have tried the entries you suggested for my fstab file and | it just isn't working. I am including a copy of my fstab file in hopes | someone can point out what I'm doing wrong here. I am able to mount vfat | floppies, just can't get the ext2 working. I've tried all the | obvious.. Here's the fstab file, the way it came configured in Mandrake | 7.0: | | /dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 | /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 | /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 | /dev/hda7 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 | /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 The "fs=vfat" says: I want this to work for vfat. if you want to mount ext2 floppies, you can at a minimum just change that to "fs=ext2" Though there's something terrily wrong if /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,user 0 0 doesn't do it for you. Of course if you use this above you do have to "mount" it before you can use it. This is the Unix Classic approach. I've had very little luck with supermount myself, and use this approach. That is, to use it, you do mount /mnt/floppy ls /mnt/floppy and when done (this is important!) before removing it do umount /mnt/floppy If that doesn't work, please copy-and-paste the precise error messages you are getting. | none /proc proc defaults 0 0 | none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 | /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 | | | thanks again | | | --dale | | "my mind is scheduled to clear tomorrow, then not again for another 400 years." -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Removing supermount
For me, when it asks me to eject the disk to rescan, it actually goes ahead and reject it and immediately re-reads it before I can even re-insert the disk. And then it fails with the same message again. However, this problem may not relate to supermount; I get the same problem when I try to erase a CD-RW drive without supermount (though not for a CD-R). On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Supermount works fine with my CD-RW. I've only burned one disk since I | upgraded but I experienced no problems. I used cdrecord at the command line. | The only thing it had to do was eject the drive once so it could rescan it or | something like that. | | Richard | | On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > As I gather it, supermount works . . . | > | > .. . . but not for a CD-RW, and my only CD-ROM is a CD-RW. | > ... . . but not for ext2 floppies, and I tried one of those second. | > ... . . but not for an LS-120 drive (I don't have one of those, at least). | > ... . . but not with filesystem of "auto" (which I happen to like). | > | > So my take is that it's not quite "ready for prime time," though if you | > have a thoroughly conventional system which you use in a thoroughly | > conventional way . . . well, then, you're running Windows, then, aren't | > you? . . . I mean, then it would work for you. | > | > I have a somewhat unconventional system and I've been using Unixy | > systems for nearly 20 years now and I found Supermount just got in | > my way. YMMV. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Program Compatibility
I have a friend who uses kmail under Gnome/Enlightenment. The apps might have do all of their nify integrated tricks, but they won't just out-and-out refuse to come up. (Not that I've tried them under fvwm, you understand.) On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, John Aldrich wrote: | | > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > > Are KDE programs compatible with IceWM or WindowMaker? I'm not all that | > > impressed with KDE or GNOME, and thought I'd give one of the smaller and | > > tighter GUI environments a try, but if apps won't run under them, then | > > there's no sense in switching... | > > | > I *think* you have to run the KDE Desktop Manager, but you can run | > ANY "Window Manager" on top of that... | > John | | Nop, the window manager must be kde compliant. Would have to ask Daniel or | David if or how this might be changed in kde2 | | -- | MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ | --Axalon -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: lack of documentation (was Re: [expert] Removing supermount)
I suppose that I have an expectation that I shouldn't have to go to the net to get documentation on new features in the distribution. In my case it would seem that I got a bad copy of Mandrake 'cause I only seem to have two disks though the package looks like it's meant to hold three of 'em. (I got the Macmillan package.) I must say as well that I've been unimpressed by the lack of response to my "cooker" missive regarding installation issues and I will probably leave the Mandrake fold once Caldera comes out with their next distribution. They seem to spend a bit more time smoothing out the rough edges. (And they happen to include most of the packages *I* happen to want, though nowhere near the variety that Mandrake does. They simplify the task of installation by just flat-out choosing KDE and not giving as many options. Which is ok with me since I happen to like their options. It would presumably not satisfy most Mandrake users, however.) I will probably re-post my "issues" mail, broken up into pieces and cross-posted to the lists, though, just to see if there's any consensus on these issues that might motivate Mandrake to solve them or at least to respond . . . On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | | > On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, Axalon wrote: | > | On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, alann wrote: | > | | > | > Just curious, does supermount NOT work?? Why are so many people wanting to |remove it? | > | | > | No supermount does work. | > | | > | It like everything else has basic do's and dont's that some people don't | > | care to learn, | > | > I'm sorry, I've stayed restrained for a long time, but . . . | > | > Where do you get off saying that people "don't care to learn"??? | > | > HOW THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT? | > | > The man entry for supermount doesn't discuss any of this. | > | > THERE ARE NO #@$! HOWTOS IN MANDRAKE 7.0!!! | > | > I've been using Unix for 19 years, and Linux for 6, but I've not been | > reading minds at all. | > | > The sources of information I'm used to consulting don't explain this, | > and when I installed Mandrake 7.0, my devices were just plain WRONG. | > | > I am rather offended at the suggestion that this somehow represents | > laziness on my part. | > | > | | Funny less than 45 seconds with a browser and search engine and I came | up with a link to a rather nice README on supermount here: | | http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/mopsy-linux/Documentation/filesystems/supermount.txt | | I could suggest a little less caffeine in your diet while I'm at it. | | -- | Rich Clark | | Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html | Help bring us more Linux Drivers -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
RE: [expert] File Permissions
Forgive me if this has been answered a buncha times already; I'm hopelessly behind in following this list! Anyway, it took me a long time to work this out but . . . For vfat partitions, whoever mounted it gets to write; others get to read. So just specifiy the "user" option and whoever wants to write to it should 'umount' it and then 'mount' it and voila! they can write to it. On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I can tell you the reason but not the fix. The partition is formatted as FAT, | which has no concept of ownership. Thus, the ownership for it is determined | by Linux. There is a way to change it; I wish I could tell you. I have a | drive in the same position: I have tried using Linuxconf to let users write to | it, but it keeps coming up as read-only for non-root users. I have been | su'ing to root to store stuff there. Does anyone know how to change this? | | -Andrew Vick | | >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = | [snip] | >[root@F11-pc-3B022-1 DOS_hdd1]# chown -v wapether Wayne/ | >failed to change owner of Wayne to wapether | >chown: Wayne: Operation not permitted | >[root@F11-pc-3B022-1 DOS_hdd1]# | > | >What is the specific command I use to change ownership of this directory | >to my user profile? | > | >Wayne | > | > | > | > | >Wayne Petherick | >Criminology Department | >Bond University | >******** | >**** -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] WG: FVWM2
Yeah, that used to happen to me with fvwm sometimes, too. I now run KDE and haven't had the problem . . . But when I ran into it I'd just restart fvwm from the popup menu. No biggee; just takes a second or two, and doesn't kill any of you windows or anything. On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote: | -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- | Von: Grojer Juergen | Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 09. März 2000 11:38 | An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' | Betreff: FVWM2 | | Hi, i have the following problem: | | I've installd FVWM2 on mandrake 7.0 | after a fev houres fvwm2 lacks to react on clicks to the window-controll | (iconify, raise, close, resize) but it still works via the menue. | | After reinstalling fvwm somtimes the problem is fixed. | | Is this a possible vmware error? | please help me, i've no further ideas for fixing this problem. | | | | best regards | | Grojer Jürgen | | CCN EB | Mailadministration | | SIEMENS AG Austria | Siemensstr. 88 - 92 | 1211 Wien | | Tel.: +43 51707 29153 | Handy:+43 676 3792713 | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Major partition magic screw up
And *NEVER* muck around with partitions (with PartitionMagic, fdisk, or anything else) without backing up all your important data first. It is always a dangerous operation. On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > I tried to install Linux on a new box of mine, but the vidoe card isn't | > supported yet. So, I decided I would delete the partition that I created | > with the partition magic that it came with. Well, everyting went fine and it | > told me that the partition was deleted. However, when I rebooted partition | > magic loaded its self and tells me the Linux partition to be deleted can't | > be found. It does this every time now and I can't get to my winders | > partition, which, BTW has some pretty important stuff on it. What am I do | > to Someone PLEASE help. Thanks for your time. | > | Windows boot disk with fdisk, then "fdisk /mbr" from the Windows boot | disk. | John -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
RE: [expert] network question
The full name. Or at least with the full name, the httpd startup succeeds, and with the first component it fails, so I assume it's correct . . . On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Run linuxconf from a terminal. It deals with such setup and other stuff, like | file systems and user accounts. Linuxconf is your friend. | | To replace the question with one of my own, I'm not really understanding the | "basic host information" group (that's where you set the host name). In the | "host name" box, is that the full name (e.g., "vick.resnet.grinnell.edu") or | just the computer's name (e.g., "vick")? | | -Andrew Vick | | >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = | >I have just installed Mamdrake 7.0, My network admin gave me an static | >ip. | >When I enterned the ip information and the etc. my system couldnt see | >the network. | > | >So I reloaded my system and selected DHCP. now my system will connect . | > | >But why is my hostname localhost.localdomain. ? | >How can I name my system it something other than localhost.localdomain.? -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Why a mail list, and not a news group?
Perhaps it's "easy" to find in some sense, but it certainly wasn't obvious to me on the Mandrake pages. Most certainly the pages that point to these newsgroups should also point to the place where their FAQs are stored, but they do not. On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Andrew Roberts wrote: | > | > Is there any possibility of converting/mirroring this list on a news-group. | > The news-group could be local to Mandrakes news server, but it would save | > cluttering my mail box with 100+ mails a day (Would only take 10 min's to | > configure). | | Look at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ffreesup.php3 (which you can | address directly or via the "Free Support" menu item on the start page). | There it is written that a newsgroup is dealing with Mandrake issues. | Name of the group? | | news://alt.os.linux.mandrake | | We even had a FAQ for this newsgroup, maintained by Tom Berger who now | maintains http://www.mandrakeuser.org , another source of information | most "experts" seem to know nothing about. | | Sorry, but this was too obvious and too easy to find. | | wobo | -- | GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE | For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request | --- | ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please
FWIW I get some funny complaints but CD-ROMS write ok anyway. (It decides that I have one, single track of 650M . . . well, unlimited capacity, actually, but scdbackup is kind enough not to try to write more than that.) On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote: | OK, I'm the one who started the remove supermount thread (and I'm not | proud of it, but I needed to know...) so I could see if supermount was | causing my CD burning to fail. Having executed the now famous supermount | disable command, I can state that it made not one iota of difference! | My CD burner still don't burn. | | I've been to the cdrecord website, followed every relevant link I could | find, read how-to's and FAQ's and the only things burning are my eyes | so PLEASE, can anyone out there tell me what the following means: | | [root@treble /dev]# cdrecord -scanbus | Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling | Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' | scsibus0: | cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities | page. | 0,0,0 0) 'LG ' 'CD-RW CED-8042B ' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM | 0,1,0 1) * | 0,2,0 2) * | 0,3,0 3) * | 0,4,0 4) * | 0,5,0 5) * | 0,6,0 6) * | 0,7,0 7) * | [root@treble /dev]# | | The only relevant explanation I have found is that it might be a | firmware bug (if so, how do I fix???) The LG branded CD-RW is, I | believe, a rebadged matsumi (at least, the box was a matsumi one with an | LG sticker on it!) and it is a recent model, so it should be compatible | according to all the hardware lists I've seen. | | Also, thanks Alan for your word, which I shall repeat since I can't | think of any better: | | Axalonthere's a significant thread here that I guess you | missed, try the archives. A group of us has been discussing | supermount problems for over a week now and you've not been | contributing at all (nor has anyone else from MandrakeSoft). | Brian is rightfully upset when you accuse him directly of not | careing to learn as should be all of us who have been involved | in this thread. You talk about disc 3 to a bunch of folks who | either downloaded an iso or bought a GPL? Probably no one here | has a powerpack that, by the way was only announced as available | on February 28th which was less than a week and a half ago. | | I think you owe Brian and all the rest of us involved in the | supermount thread a big apology! We've been trying very hard, | with no help from any mandrakeSoft personel, to work out the | problems that people have been having with supermount. | | Alan | | Thanks to all those who did reply with help on the supermount issue. | | Trevor. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] auto X start
Temporary: "linux 3" at boot Permanent: set default runlevel to 3 in /etc/inittab On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hello, | I have a question pertaining to the option that starts X automatically. I | tried to configure a serial mouse and I thought all was well until I booted the | next startup at which time the computer booted to the place where it starts X | and hanged with the hdd making nioses and the screen flashing. Using the | ctrl-alt-del I could shutdown, and I noticed it said fatal server error: could | not start mouse: no such device. I finally remedied this with an upgrade to | 7.0. Not the best way to handle the situation. I finally have the new 7.0 | working ok, but my question is for futer referance. Is there a way to go back | to the command shell that starts when there is no auto start of X? I guess I | could make a bootdisk that has that option, but I don't know how to do that. | | Any help would be appreciated. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Does Mandrake have false or misleading advertisement?
I am of the opinion that Mandrake ought to be suing Macmillan rather than cross-liscencing to them. The whole point (for me) of buying the distribution was to get support from the company that could address the problems, so in BIG LETTERS it says MANDRAKE 7.0 and in little tiny letters it says "Macmillan." That's why I'm trying to get the cooker list to function like the support I thought I'd already paid for, I suppose. Macmillan handles installation problems that stop an install, but they don't talk about suggestions & so forth. PS: Caldera responded within *hours* to the biggest problem I had with their distribution, so my experience hasn't been the same as that of other folks. It is true that they are "all or nothing," though, if it doesn't support your hardware you're SOL. That's why I'm running Mandrake right now. On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Dev Nullit sounds like you bought a MacMillan distribition | of Linux Mandrake 7.0, not a MandrakeSoft package. In the | MandrakeSoft package both Wordperfect 8 and Star Office 5.1 are | included in rpm format. Caveat Emptor. :-) | | Alan | | | Dev Null wrote: | > | > I was evaluating the various boxes of Mandrake available on the shelf at the | > local store to determine which one I wanted. It was fairly obvious I was going | > to get a 7.0 edition, but which one? | > | > I can't remember the name of one of them, I think it was the "Complete" edition. | > It showed on the back 3 or 4 different books (Linux how-to) and labeled them as | > "Linux Library". | > | > Up above the photos of the books it has a feature comparison of Linux Mandrake, | > Red Hat, and Corel. "Linux Library" was one listed as included with Mandrake | > but not with the other two. | > | > On the "Deluxe" edition of Mandrake it didn't show any photos of any books, but | > in the feature comparison section it showed that Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Deluxe had a | > "Linux Library" that Red Hat and Corel did not. | > | > In addition the Deluxe box lists "Additional HOW-TOs and other Linux | > documentation" under "Additional Applications and Utilities" on the back. | > | > I purchased the Deluxe package because I thought I was getting the "Complete" | > package and more (I think one of the pluses was WordPerfect 8 Light). | > | > Now I'm looking on my 6 CDs and I can't seem to find these publications. | > | > Question 1. What is the "Linux Library" as advertised on the back of the Deluxe | > box? | > | > Question 2. If it is the same publications as what is labeled "Linux Library" | > on the Complete edition, where are they located? | > | > /dev/null | > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] mkisofs dead in MD 7 ?
I have run into this problem, and mentioned it on this list before, but it's data-dependent, and the only data source I had that would reliably reproduce it is copyrighted, so I didn't want to attach it for the entire list. If you can reliably reproduce it, I'd suggest entering a formal bug report; when I reported it before without the ability to demonstrate it, I've encountered skepticism from Mandrake folks, and nobody who would claim responsibility and let me mail it to them individually. Lacking a reproducable test case, though, I didn't enter a formal bug report. You also might contact the mkisofs folks; again, if you have a good test case. (I have a zip file that when mkisofs'ed by itself will show the corruption. If an individual would like to see it I can provide it.) Also, the mkisofs included with "scdbackup" does work reliably. And I should (but haven't yet) try the mkisofs home page and download the "official" version from there and test it. I'll try that later tonight. On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I just got M.D 7.0 going (nice, real nice windows 95 -> 98 level | improvements without the 3 years!), but mkisofs seems to be creating | garbled filesystems. I burned some CD's, and Win-Zip (the disks are for | Win 32 installs, I burn ALL my cd's on linux now!) complained that they | were not a valid winzip file. My C code text files had garble at the | top sometimes and sometimes got chopped off before the end? | | So, I made a straight ISO image file with mkisofs (using -a and -J flags | ONLY). Now I mounted the ISO file (don't have command handy, I'm at | work), and the command cmp sais that the File in to ISO image does NOT | match the file in the Disk. I can copy to / from all File system types, | and the cmp command verifies correctness, even from a CR-ROM. However, | ALL mkisofs attempts (starting from ext2, VFAT, and ISO9660) yielded the | SAME incorrect differences (at the same position). | | By re-installing mkisofs ?? from my M.D 6.0 disk, the problem is Fixed!! | | Can anyone RE-CREATE this, or am I the only ONE ??? | | Sorry for not being able to provide versions of mkisofs, but they are | the included ones in M.D 7.0 and M.D 6.0 . -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Hard disk & lilo woes
(152.7% of bios) | > | > DOS boot record is not valid using start sector number 1818566753 | > | > First partition Bios Parameter Block on Drive 0 | > Vendor : ¥ D Ö | >Bytes Per Sector : 21010 | > Sectors Per Cluster : 0 | >Reserved Sectors : 0 | > Fat Copies : 190 | >Root Entries : 3 | > Total Sectors-1 : 17,408 (8.91 MB) | > Media : 00h | > Sectors Per Fat : 4762 | > Sectors Per Track : 89 | > Heads : 0 | >Hidden Sectors-1 : 958 | >Hidden Sectors-2 : 0 | > Total Sectors-2 : 312,279,108 (159886.90 MB) | > Physical Drive Number : 70h | > Extended Boot Signature : 00h | >Volume Serial Number : 0003-BE00 | >BPB Volume Label : D × ï 5%, (root dir volume: DISCO-C) | > File System ID : ä - | > Named System Files : $ M . l, Ä $ ¦ É. | > ID Code : h | > === | > __ | > Get Your Free Email at http://mail.euroseek.com | -- | *** | *** | Wayne Petherick | Criminology Department | Humanities and Social Sciences | Bond University | Gold Coast, Australia | *** | *** -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape troubles
Check your proxy settings. I'd guess that it's trying to get to an automatic proxy configuration and failing or connecting very slowly. Alternatively it could have slow access to a startup page, but with no connection it fails the name lookup immediately and doesn't waste further time looking. On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Netscape starts up slowy (almost seems like it is going to hang) when i | start it up while i am connected to the internet. This does not happen | when i start up netscape when i am not connected to the internet .. it | does not hang, it starts right up. Does anyone know what could be | causing this? I have erased my .netscape dir hoping that that would fix | the problem but no such luck. I connect to the internet via modem and | am not connected to a lan. Any help would be greatly be appreciated. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] VMWare, Win3.1 and Linux Ethernet
kind enough to | respond. | | Yours, | | Benjamin | | -- | Benjamin and Anna Sher | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sher's Russian Web | http://www.websher.net -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Linux & Vmware file sharing -- footnote
Well, that all depends on how you configured vmware. If you did a raw disk, then the simplest thing is to mount that partition while vmware is down. If you have host networking, you can use Samba or FTP while vmware is up. I think that if you have the filesystem in a file you can use the loopback device (man losetup) to get to the file system, but I'm not certain of that. On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Dear friends: | | This is a footnote to my long letter concerning Linux, VMware and Win3.1 | (which is in fact one of the guest OS's supported by VMware for Linux). | | Here is a simple question: | | I downloaded an xyz.exe file for Win3.1 using Linux into my /home/sher | directory (At this point I still don't know how to access the Internet | on Win3.1/Vmware). Now how do I move or copy this file to Win3.1. | Obviously, it would be something like: | | #cp xyz.exe to C:\ (the Windows directory)? | | Right? | | But where in the world am I going to find Drive C:\ on my Linux system. | I checked the file system, KDE's file system. It's not in | /home/sher/vmware/win31. So where is it? Or is there a special way to do | this? | | Just curious. | | Thank you so much. | | Benjamin | -- | Benjamin and Anna Sher | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sher's Russian Web | http://www.websher.net -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Linux/VMWare -- "bridge" or "host-only" networking?
You want bridged. if you use host-only, then windows can't get to any host other than your Linux host; it can't get to the www or ftp (except to your local machine) or anything. On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Dear friends: | | This is a footnote to my earlier letter concerning Mandrake 7.0, VMware | 2.0 and Win3.1. | | I have a single computer running Linux and a single virtual machine with | Win3.1 on it. I have ADSL broadband (3com ethernet card) and I also use | a U. S. Robotics 56k EXT modem as a backup for the ADSL. | | During installation, VMWARE recognized my DHCP protocol and suggested | bridge network. That's what Settings also showed after installation | (which was otherwise perfect). At the bottom of the main VMware screen I | see icons for four devices: floppy, hard drive, CD AND ethernet0. The | floppy icon works when I click on it and the hard drive. The CD is of no | importance at this time. But the ethernet icon does not respond. | | BIG QUESTION OF THE DAY: | | After reading extensivly on this subject on VMware's support page | (Documentation, Networking) at: | http://www.vmware.com/support/linux/doc/networking_linux.html, I can't | help but wonder if perhaps what I really need is HOST-ONLY NETWORKING | for the ethernet card. Bellsouth considers me to be on a LAN, and that | is the way my ADSL was configured from the beginning (first under | Windows95 and now under Linux). I hope to avoid Win95/98 at all costs in | VMware. My interest is very specific: Windows Media Player 3.0 for | Win3.1, which is equivalent, I think, to WMP 6.4 for Win96/98. I need | this for live Russian broadcasting for my colleagues and myself, and TV6 | Moscow broadcasts, alas, only on WMP. | | What's your opinion, please? Bridge or host-only networking? | | Thank you so very much. | | Benjamin | | -- | Benjamin and Anna Sher | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sher's Russian Web | http://www.websher.net -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Linux & Vmware file sharing -- footnote
You can read and write to a loopback file system just fine; "man losetup" for details. That said, I don't know whether vmware uses "real" loopback files or does its own thing; I use raw partitions myself. On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, you wrote: | AFAIK, vm-ware uses the loopback-device principle for its FS. That means it | mounts a file as its filesystem (similar to mounting an ISO-image in linux). | Therefore I fear it's impossible to copy the file directly onto the win 3.1 | filesys. | | What you can try is check out if you can get any network access in win31, | preferably FTP, and if that works, log into your linux-box and "download" the | file. So basically: get that internet working under VM-ware. | | ps: isn't there another way? Can't you access the linux FS as a network drive in | vm-ware? I don't use it, so I don't know... Perhaps putting it on a floppy, and | reading the floppy in vm-ware? Just a few suggestions, I might not be making | much sense here. ;-) | | On Mar 15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | > Dear friends: | > | > This is a footnote to my long letter concerning Linux, VMware and Win3.1 | > (which is in fact one of the guest OS's supported by VMware for Linux). | > | > Here is a simple question: | > | > I downloaded an xyz.exe file for Win3.1 using Linux into my /home/sher | > directory (At this point I still don't know how to access the Internet | > on Win3.1/Vmware). Now how do I move or copy this file to Win3.1. | > Obviously, it would be something like: | > | > #cp xyz.exe to C:\ (the Windows directory)? | > | > Right? | > | > But where in the world am I going to find Drive C:\ on my Linux system. | > I checked the file system, KDE's file system. It's not in | > /home/sher/vmware/win31. So where is it? Or is there a special way to do | > this? | > | > Just curious. | > | > Thank you so much. | > | > Benjamin | > | | -- | | Rial Juan<http://nighty.ulyssis.org> | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 | ulyssis system admininstrator <http://www.ulyssis.org> | | The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. | That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... | | ------------ | | Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html | Help bring us more Linux Drivers -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] use XF86Config from setup
Yes, you're wrong. On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > The default Mandrake 7.0 install does not use the XFree86 XF86Setup | > program which is in a separate rpm. The xf86config is included in the | > basic XFree86 rpm and is usually not a very good way to configure your | > system. Use the Xconfigurator for the best results with Mandrake or | > Redhat. I've used them both and Xconfigurator has always worked better. | > | Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong (I'll be the first to | admit it if I am) don't you need to HAVE "X" before you can | run Xconfigurator? In this case, the person asking for the | help can't GET to his X. | John -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Linux & Vmware file sharing -- footnote
If you get "host only" networking going (I never could), you can FTP from the virtual machine to your real machine. I myself, though, have used this technique to good effect when connected to a physical network via an ethernet connection; I can't get it to work when connected via the telephone, though. On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Dear Rial: | | Thank you so very much for taking out the time to help. | | Thanks especially for suggesting connecting to my Linux box from Win31 | with FTP. Will keep that in mind once I get my Internet connection (or | dial-up connection or both) set up. | | And, yes, I can copy files from Linux to Windows with a floppy. But what | do you do with a 5 meg file? | | Thanks so much again. | | Benjamin | -- | Benjamin and Anna Sher | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sher's Russian Web | http://www.websher.net -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape bashing
By the most amazing coincidence, I ran into very much that problem just yesterday--Netscape cache beynd the size I requested. More that that, going into Netscape and tell it to clear the cache . . . didn't clean up the #@$! thing, either! Also, I *can* recommend the "xdu" program for when file systems are full. It makes it *much* easier to home in on the culprit when this sort of thing happens. [Alas, it doesn't seem to be available as a Mandrake package quite yet. I'll look into taking my first foray into the exciting world of creating Mandrake packages though for this wonderful little utitlity that, IMHO, no Unix adminstrator (or user) should be without.] On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Well, I am an aficianado of this wholesome hobby after an experience today. | | A user comes to me and says, "StarOffice won't SAVE! What am I supposed to do?" | | Well, her system is on an older computer and there wasn't a great deal of | storage available, and it has one of the WD disks I am rotating out at first | opportunity. I wondered if she had managed to clutter her home directory | enough to make something terrible happen. | | Kdiskfree reported in its best full-screen graphic manner that /home was indeed | a long RED bar, without space to create a folder except of course for the | obligatory reserved blocks. | | I symlinked a chunk of space out of /usr/local for the user and asked her to | move or delete files she could do without. | | She managed to decrease usage from 99 Mb down to 96 Mb in this manner. | | Then I looked in a graphic manner and found no large files--none either on a | search except a copy of AIR's iso sitting on ~/Desktop/remotepublic (my | server), nothing in fact over 1 Mb. | | Growling low, I opened Konsole, su'ed, and | | ls -a -l -R -H ~ | grep ./ -A 1 | lpr | | Thank goodness I didn't try to print filenames. There were more than 9000 | | I paged through the nine sheets of printout and found | | ./carmen/.netscape/cache | ttotal 288k | >-- #; the offset (>) is mine so I don't get a nasty note from a | #pine user whose client saw all these lines as signature | #and didn't display them. |# so far, so good Netscape Cache is limited to 5000 Kb | # in preferences on her user space. | ./carmen/.netscape/cache/00 | ttotal 2.6M # HUH? | >-- | ./carmen/.netscape/cache/01 | ttotal 837k | >-- | ./carmen/.netscape/cache/02 | ttotal 3.3M | >-- | ./carmen/.netscape/cache/03 | ttotal 3.4M | >-- | * | * # using * for ellipsis for visibility | * | ./carmen/.netscape/cache/1F | ttotal 2.6M | >-- | | All right, technically Netscape didn't violate instructions. 288 in the cache, | and 32 subdirectories of the cache with 7711 files and a combined total of 84 | Mb, none individually over 3.8M. | | I am stll marveling over this. This is like when 7.0 is a bit slow and I run | top and find lib.ld. consuming a chunk of memory and 84% CPU and none of | its child netscapes even a process in the system... An event which seems to be | on a weekly frequency. So I kill it and the system is fine and netscape starts | up well the next time. | | But this interesting Netscape dodge is a new one on me. To cure it, I went to | the file manager, saved ~/.netscape/archive for later analysis and then deleted | ~/.netscape (which is automatically recursive without asking in kfm). | | Now the user is back to about 11% usage in the home directory, and I will be | looking in with Webmin from time to time, hoping I can get some insight into | how that happened. | | Anyone else have a similar experience? | | Civileme -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
[expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake
Question on process . . . How do we know whether some feature / issue that's discussed here actually makes it into the next release of Mandrake? For example, civilme figured out the problem with font server crashes. Is he one of the "blessed ones" who can make something officially happen for the next release of Mandrake? Is there some list I can check for that lists all the fixes addressed since 7.0 that I can check to verify issues of concern to me? Forgive me if I'm being dense . . .
Re: [expert] New "features" in Mandrake 7.0
1. kmail can use plenty of pop accounts. I have no idea why you should be having any trouble with that. It's very easy. 2. You of course do have to be root before you can stuff like pick which services to run. If you find this concept unacceptable, and you like the way it works under Windows, then just dispense with your user account and always log in as root. This is very insecure but no more insecure than running Windows, which was your alternative approach. 3. Not clear on if you managed to install DrakConf, but to do it all you need to do is "su", type in the root password, insert your 1st Mandrake cd, change to directory where your cd is mounted and rpm -i M*/L*/DrakConf* You could also use kpackage or rpmdrake, but the above will work no matter how little stuff got installed. 4. Then you can type in "DrakConf" by hand to run it. 5. It might be equally productive to try to figure out why all these services fail on startup; certainly they should not be doing so. How did you install? Recommended or custom? What files does it say it's having trouble with locking? The RPC clearly shows that it thinks it's supposed to talk to somebody at startup, but this just isn't normal with a vanilla configuration. Something made it decide to do this. Any idea what that might have been? 6. To the other poster: Yes, you do "man xx" to find out what it is. 7. Before you consider switching back to Windows, I'd recommend that you first consider Caldera OpenLinux;its installation is oriented towards "workstation" or "server" or whatever. It has drawbacks (lessflexible than Mandrake; not optimized for the hardware), but Windowshas these same drawbacks.
Re: [expert] New "features" in Mandrake 7.0
1. kmail can use plenty of pop accounts. I have no idea why you should be having any trouble with that. It's very easy. 2. You of course do have to be root before you can stuff like pick which services to run. If you find this concept unacceptable, and you like the way it works under Windows, then just dispense with your user account and always log in as root. This is very insecure but no more insecure than running Windows, which was your alternative approach. 3. Not clear on if you managed to install DrakConf, but to do it all you need to do is "su", type in the root password, insert your 1st Mandrake cd, change to directory where your cd is mounted and rpm -i M*/L*/DrakConf* You could also use kpackage or rpmdrake, but the above will work no matter how little stuff got installed. 4. Then you can type in "DrakConf" by hand to run it. 5. Or you can just live with the default services. I don't get why you think you need to muck with the startup services in the first place. They shouldn't cause any big problems. 6. To the other poster: Yes, you do "man xx" to find out what it is. 6. If you really *can't* live with the defaults *and* you find the process of fixing this to be too much to deal with, and you find it easier to customize Windows, perhaps you indeed ought to go back to Windows. But personally I'd recommend that you first consider Caldera OpenLinux; its installation is oriented towards "workstation" or "server" or whatever. It has drawbacks (less flexible than Mandrake; not optimized for the hardware), but Windows has these same drawbacks. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Lane Lester wrote: | > | > Seve said: | > > Go to DrakConf on your desktop and select Startup Services. Then you | > just | > > uncheck the stuff you don't need. When you're done, that | > > pc should boot up much quicker. | > | > A lot of those names are cryptic to this newbie. Is there an explanation | > somewhere of what they do... omigosh, are you going to say, "man [name]"? | > | > -- | > Lane | > | > Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA | > Using Linux to get where I want to go... | | Well I tried all the above: | DrakConf didn't function, I had to be root before it showed up in my | desktop. | Read somewhere that it might not be installed, went to the RPMS checker | and found | no mention of it there. Thought I scan the CD's it won't let me do that | now | either nothing in mnt. So with the advent of "7.0 features" I'm back to | newbie | status. I also subscribed to that mailing list. I did get X functional | again, | and can acess Nutscrape here so I can reach you guys. Went to | Mandrake's site | watched the pretty demo on DrakConf, but no info on how to get there. | It may | do what I'm wanting to do (kill off some of the many processes, and | dameans). | I just want a functional desktop, no network (other than ISP dialup) | which I | now do through KPPP. I like the StarOffice now I read that it may be | endagered | by NutScrape, can't surf very well with KFM because many sites don't | like the | way it handles cookies. Kmail was neat but couldn't use more than one | POP3 | account. Is there any help out there?? I know "go back to Windoze if | it's this | tough". | But I liked the penguin! | Vern -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] printing non-ascii in mandrake 7 broken
Well, first, congratulations on getting as far as finding that script. This definately qualifies you for the "expert" list. Second, this is just a stab in the dark, but when the tempfile remains do you have proper permissions to write to it? Finally, since you found the script & everything, I'd take a gander at the actual ghostcript input and output. You see that "eval" command at the end? Well, there is presumably where the problem is. Add some lines to the script, like this: echo mpage_cmd: $mpage_cmd echo gs command: gs -q -sDEVICE=$GSDEVICE \ -r$RESOLUTION \ -sPAPERSIZE=$PAPERSIZE \ -dNOPAUSE \ -dSAFER \ -sOutputFile=$TMPFILE \ $COLOR \ $EXTRA_GS_OPTIONS - This will tell you what the spooler is actually trying to *do* to print the text. Then you can try the commands yourself and see if you get some coherent error messages and go from there. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hello around there, | | I recently set up a mandrake 7 box and it seems it is impossible to print | anything but plain ascii. | I used printtool to set up my canon bjc-4000 (using the suggested driver). I am | not able to print the ps-testpage (or any other ps-file), but ascii works fine. | After tracking down the bug I ended up in | '/usr/lib/rhs/rhs-printfilters/ps-to-printer.fpi' . It seems it creates a | tmpfile (mktemp-command from line 45), which never gets any input. (I deleted | the command 'rm $TMPFILE' from line 131 and the file which remained had size 0 | bytes.) | | So, any idea out there? | | THXIA Sascha Kiedrowski -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] DrakConf and KwikDisk
Well, I had a "from scratch" install, but the problem with mine was that the menu item was there but the actual command wasn't installed. You might try just re-installing DrakConf. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hello, | | Good question on DrakConf: why does it not work in release 7.0. I | installed the upgrade from Mandrake 6.5 to 7.0. DrakConf is on the | desktop as an icon but has no functionality. Does the upgrade look for a | certain type of mount structure. I have noticed that if you take the new | version's suggested mount points, they are very different from what we, | as those that create a certain "look" to our different mounts, would | setup. It looks like libs are getting lost. And has anyone noticed the | absence of KwikDisk? Yes, I can use some switches with the "df" command | but where has this little GUI guy gone? Seems like some bugs but | otherwise it has a nice feel to it. | | Craig -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake
Agreed, but my goal here is to save the world, not to get my system working. For each of these issues I've already managed to solve the problem for myself. I'm trying to improve future releases of Mandrake and spare others from having to work around the problems in the future. But so far I've not seen that somebody else in a position to get them definatively fixed has taken "ownership" of the issues, so I'm trying to play the role of bulldog here. I just need to know when the bull is dead so I can finallly let go . . . On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | One of the most wonderful parts of linux is having access to the source | code. When you find something that does not work and you fix it. Its | yours. You do not have to wait for the Keepers of the Documents to pass | judgement on your work and put it in a future release. It's yours now. I | have found so many bugs in old compilers, that it almost drove me nuts | finding work arounds. Now when I find a problem, I fix it, recompile the | software and run it. Its o sweet! Life is | good with linux. | | Tom | | | Hoyt wrote: | > | > ----- Original Message - | > From: Brian T. Schellenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:38 PM | > Subject: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake | > | > > | > > Question on process . . . | > > | > > How do we know whether some feature / issue that's discussed here | > > actually makes it into the next release of Mandrake? | > > | > | > I doubt there is a secret cabal. Lowly me (not a programmer or a computer | > geek -- well, not a programmer) made a suggestion for a fix and it was | > fixed by Pixel or Axalon, I don't recall which. I have found the Mandrake | > people to be very responsive, although they are distracted at times. Do some | > little annoying things slip by? Sure. Do some little annoying things creep | > in? Sure. It's unfortunatley unrealistsic to expect a trouble-free distro. | > Your effort to go over the bug list and fix a few things is, I'm sure, | > welcomed and appreciated. | > | > Hoyt | > | > __ | > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World | > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at | > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] v7 Minor Annoyance
LILO(8) LILO(8)
NAME
lilo - install boot loader
SYNOPSIS
Main function:
/sbin/lilo - install boot loader
Auxiliary uses:
/sbin/lilo -q - query map
/sbin/lilo -R - set default command line for next reboot
/sbin/lilo -I - inquire path name of current kernel
/sbin/lilo {-u|-U} - uninstall lilo
^
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| Having used loadlin to boot linux for about five years now I'm rather
| annoyed by the v7 installation process. It assumed that I wanted to use
| LILO and went ahead and installed it.
|
| This would appear to make it impossible for me to continue to use
| linux95.exe as I have been doing and would like to be able to continue to do.
|
| This leads me to ask a number of questions:
|
| 1. Is it possible to go from Win95 to linux as I have been doing and would
| like to continue to do, and in the other direction (I have no particular
| objection to LILO, but I do a lot of cross platform work on this particular
| machine and liked the way that I've been changing OS's)?
|
| 2. How do I get rid of LILO? As I recall it's a DOS fdisk command, but
| I'd like to know the exact syntax.
|
| Thanks in advance.
| Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set
| Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariant
| http://web.jadeinc.com/FoundationChem
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Re: [expert] Internet File Sharing
All you need to do is to run an ftp server on your Linux machine and then use FTP on the Windows machine to send 'em . . . But if it's small ascii files, then just send them in e-mail. That's even easier! On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Bill&Virginia Hodges said: | > It is a straight forward to share files across the internet | > using the concepts in: | > | > Practical Internet Groupware (Nutshell Series) | > by Jon Udell, Tim O'Reilly | > List Price: $29.95 | > Our Price: $23.96 | | Thanks for the reference. Since I need to share small ASCII files (a detail | I neglected to mention), I'm hoping for a solution that won't cost me $25. | -- | Lane | | Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA | Using Linux to get where I want to go... -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
[expert] The definitive proof of, and test for, the Mandrake 7.0 mkisofs bug
Ok, for all you skeptics out there . . . or just developers who need a test case . . . check out http://hammer.prohosting.com/~babbleon There there's a link to my "mkisofs test program," a .tgz file that contains a test program that tests to see if your verison of mkisofs is correct or not. The Linux-Mandrake .rpm, including the latest from cooker, flunks the test, but the .tgz file from the actual mkisofs home page passes, even though they are both verion 1.12. This test contains a modified version of the test case I've mentioned before, munged so that nobody can (I hope) get to the information inside (which happens to be copyrighted, thus the issue of getting to the contents), along with a perl script that automates the process of creating the file system and then accessing it with the loopback device and comparing to the original file. You must have perl installed and loopback device in the kernel, but these are usually present in Mandrake distributions so this shouldn't be a problem. Hopefully this will this problem to get fixed soon in the cooker distribution. It will also help you see if you have the problem; if you do, you need to do something about it or you may have data corruption in those backup disks you are making! -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake
I'm afraid that I don't ever seem to make myself clear . . . What I'm really trying to ask is . . . How can I find out whether a given issue has been addressed in the cooker / future Mandrake distribution, or not? Questions like "is the mkisofs package still causing data corruption?" are easily answered: I just download the latest "cooker" mkisofs package and test it. (I did, and it's not fixed, but I just posted about that with every programmer's favorite thing, a reproducable, self-verifying test case.) But questions like "is the installation program still incorrectly limiting you to filling only 50% of the partition, even when /usr is on a seperate partition?" are not possible to answer emperically like this unless you have significant resources (a throwaway test computer and a fast connection) that I don't happen to have handy. I have this long list of installation issues; I sent them to civilme in individual mail and he was kind enough to answer some of them but I'd like some means other than bothering kind individuals to answer questions of what is and isn't addressed already in the upcoming edition. And I'm still a bit confused about how information and fixes flow from the expert list to the cooker list to the cooker RPMs to the official Mandrake distribution. I'll be happy to RTFM if somebody will just point me to TFM. I figure there's surely some database of fixes applied already that I could just search through? Or am I completely confused about the process that would be involved here? On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | - Original Message - | From: Brian T. Schellenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:38 PM | Subject: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake | | | > | > Question on process . . . | > | > How do we know whether some feature / issue that's discussed here | > actually makes it into the next release of Mandrake? | > | | I doubt there is a secret cabal. Lowly me (not a programmer or a computer | geek -- well, not a programmer) made a suggestion for a fix and it was | fixed by Pixel or Axalon, I don't recall which. I have found the Mandrake | people to be very responsive, although they are distracted at times. Do some | little annoying things slip by? Sure. Do some little annoying things creep | in? Sure. It's unfortunatley unrealistsic to expect a trouble-free distro. | Your effort to go over the bug list and fix a few things is, I'm sure, | welcomed and appreciated. | | Hoyt | | | __ | NetZero - Defenders of the Free World | Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at | http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Mozilla fonts
Well at the least you could put that xset into your startup file for X. Eg, if you use KDE, put a script with that in your start folder, if you use startx, do that in your .xsession / .xinitrc (sorry, I forget the file off the top of my head), etc. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I have installed some fonts for mozilla and it seems the only way I can get | theses fonts recognized is by starting an xterm and doing: | xset fp+ /usr/X1R6/lib/X11/fonts/moz | | I would like to have these fonts available when I start an X session without | the need to start an xterm an using the above command. However all my attempts | have failed. I would welcome any suggestions as to how I could accomplish this. | | My /etc/X11/fs/config is: | | # | # Default font server configuration file for Red Hat Linux 6.0 | # | | # allow a max of 10 clients to connect to this font server | client-limit = 10 | | # when a font server reaches its limit, start up a new one | clone-self = on | | # alternate font servers for clients to use | #alternate:unscaled,te-servers = foo:7101,bar:7102 | | # where to look for fonts | # Some of these are commented out, i.e. the TrueType and Type1 | # directories in /usr/share, because they aren't forced to be | # installed alongside X. | # | catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/moz:unscaled, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk, | /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, | /usr/share/fonts/ttf/big5, | /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives, | /usr/share/fonts/ttf/gb2312, | /usr/share/fonts/ttf/japanese, | /usr/share/fonts/ttf/korean, | /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/100dpi, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/misc, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/Type1, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-9/100dpi, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-9/misc, | /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-9/75dpi, | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/ | | | # in 12 points, decipoints | default-point-size = 120 | | # 100 x 100 and 75 x 75 | default-resolutions = 100,100,75,75 | | # how to log errors | use-syslog = on | | Thank's for any help, | Dave -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] X Won't Start
Hmmm . . . it thinks that you don't have permissions to run it. Can you create a file in your home directory? Is it possible that you wiped out /tmp? If I weren't so tired I'm sure I'd think of more but that's a start. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | New v7.0 installation on partition that was running v6.1, accepted the | default selection of packages. When I try startx I get: | | execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2) | _X11TransSocketUNIXConnetc: catn't connect: errno: 111 | giving up. | xinit: Connection refused (errno: 111): unable to connect to X server | xinit: No such process (errno: 3): Server error | | Solution(s) please? | | Thanks in advance. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > Agreed, but my goal here is to save the world, not to get my system | > working. For each of these issues I've already managed to solve the | > problem for myself. I'm trying to improve future releases of Mandrake | > and spare others from having to work around the problems in the future. | > | > But so far I've not seen that somebody else in a position to get them | > definatively fixed has taken "ownership" of the issues, so I'm trying | > to play the role of bulldog here. | > | Brian: | Many of us would be VERY grateful if you'd fix these bugs and send | the "fixed" code to the Mandrake folks (or to the author of the | package) so they can release it to the general public. Well, yes, I'm trying to figure out how to do that. But even before that I'm trying to figure out which ones are already fixed so I don't waste my time on them. | I, myself, realize that Mandrake tries to be on the cutting-edge, and | being on the cutting edge, sometimes you bleed so I'm going to | wait for a bug-fix release to Mandrake 7.02 (which in itself is a | bugfix for 7.0 ) A lot of new stuff was included in Mandrake 7.xx, | so I think it's wise for people like you to do what you can to help | get it working, and I applaud you for your efforts. | | Now, thanks to your efforts and those of people like you, the rest of | us can (hopefully) get a better release of Mandrake in 7.1 or | whatever they call it. :-) | John -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] v7 Minor Annoyance
LILO doesn't require you to use Windows to set it up for configure it (but does require Linux); BootMagic is the opposite. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I have a similar situation with LILO and BootMagic which I use to boot Win98 | and | Linux, I have thus far stopped it from loading automatically. I would like | to know if | there is any advantage to running LILO over other "boot managers" on the | market?? | Vern | | - Original Message - | From: Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:41 AM | Subject: [expert] v7 Minor Annoyance | | | > Having used loadlin to boot linux for about five years now I'm rather | > annoyed by the v7 installation process. It assumed that I wanted to use | > LILO and went ahead and installed it. | > | > This would appear to make it impossible for me to continue to use | > linux95.exe as I have been doing and would like to be able to continue to | do. | > | > This leads me to ask a number of questions: | > | > 1. Is it possible to go from Win95 to linux as I have been doing and | would | > like to continue to do, and in the other direction (I have no particular | > objection to LILO, but I do a lot of cross platform work on this | particular | > machine and liked the way that I've been changing OS's)? | > | > 2. How do I get rid of LILO? As I recall it's a DOS fdisk command, but | > I'd like to know the exact syntax. | > | > Thanks in advance. | > Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set | > Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariant | > http://web.jadeinc.com/FoundationChem | > -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape Settings, Bookmarks, & Etc
ln -s /root/.netscape/bookmarks.html /home/user/.netscape but . . . the user can't update them then. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I'm trying to get one of the Netscape users to have the same bookmarks as the root |user. Is there a way to make a link so that | they're always the same or would I just make a copy? Where would I find the files |necessary to make this possible? | | Seve -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] New "features" in Mandrake 7.0
My guess is that you're right and it starts the net daemon, but regardless it's not a clear name. Nonetheless, if you are on this mailing list, you are using some aspect of networking so I would not recommend turning that one off. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > | > > > | > > > > network - Huh? what are you referring to? | > > > | > > > Beats me, but it's right there in DrakConf's list, between netfs and | > > > numlock. | > > > | > > UmmI think "network" is pretty self-explanatory, don't you? | > | > | > Not if you don't understand it's function; it's too general a term. | > | Well, it would SEEM to me (not a programmer or particularly | knowledgeable about Linux in general) that "network" would cover | starting the network services, such as TCPIP, etc. *I* would tend to | think that "Network" in the startup services should be | self-explanatory if you have ANY knowledge of computer networking | above and beyond just plugging your computer into the LAN and hoping | it works. | Just my $0.02 worth. | John -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake
Well, that's not quite the process (indeed, I'm not clear on the whole process; I'm trying to clarify), but check out the "cooker" page at www.linux-mandrake.com for info on what the process is; I just can't quite put all of that together yet. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Way cool! Does mandrake have an e-mail address for sending fixes. A | repository of stuff that others have done and can be incorporated in to | the future releases. If not do you and they think that would be a good | idea. Policy of this e-mail address would be to delete any input that | asks a question as that is inappropriate for a repository of solutions. | They could then use or forward to the responsible party. | | Tom | | PS | | You can let go anytime, just remember the three fundamental principles | of leadership: | 1) Follow-up; 2) Follow-up; 3) Follow-up. Its all about raising | someone's consciousness and keeping it at the new level. ^_^ | | | "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: | > | > Agreed, but my goal here is to save the world, not to get my system | > working. For each of these issues I've already managed to solve the | > problem for myself. I'm trying to improve future releases of Mandrake | > and spare others from having to work around the problems in the future. | > | > But so far I've not seen that somebody else in a position to get them | > definatively fixed has taken "ownership" of the issues, so I'm trying | > to play the role of bulldog here. | > | > I just need to know when the bull is dead so I can finallly let go . . . | > | > On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > | One of the most wonderful parts of linux is having access to the source | > | code. When you find something that does not work and you fix it. Its | > | yours. You do not have to wait for the Keepers of the Documents to pass | > | judgement on your work and put it in a future release. It's yours now. I | > | have found so many bugs in old compilers, that it almost drove me nuts | > | finding work arounds. Now when I find a problem, I fix it, recompile the | > | software and run it. Its o sweet! Life is | > | good with linux. | > | | > | Tom | > | | > | | > | Hoyt wrote: | > | > | > | > - Original Message - | > | > From: Brian T. Schellenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:38 PM | > | > Subject: [expert] Question on process / how things get into Mandrake | > | > | > | > > | > | > > Question on process . . . | > | > > | > | > > How do we know whether some feature / issue that's discussed here | > | > > actually makes it into the next release of Mandrake? | > | > > | > | > | > | > I doubt there is a secret cabal. Lowly me (not a programmer or a computer | > | > geek -- well, not a programmer) made a suggestion for a fix and it was | > | > fixed by Pixel or Axalon, I don't recall which. I have found the Mandrake | > | > people to be very responsive, although they are distracted at times. Do some | > | > little annoying things slip by? Sure. Do some little annoying things creep | > | > in? Sure. It's unfortunatley unrealistsic to expect a trouble-free distro. | > | > Your effort to go over the bug list and fix a few things is, I'm sure, | > | > welcomed and appreciated. | > | > | > | > Hoyt | > | > | > | > __ | > | > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World | > | > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at | > | > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html | > -- | > I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). | > I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . | > I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . | > I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html . -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Netscape Settings, Bookmarks, & Etc
None. It is hardcoded that ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html is the bookmarks file for each user. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Thanks for writing back... now another question... | | What file is responsible for pointing Netscape to bookmarks.html by default? | | Seve | | | -Original Message- | From: Tom Berkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Date: Sunday, March 19, 2000 3:57 PM | Subject: Re: [expert] Netscape Settings, Bookmarks, & Etc | | | >/root/.netscape/bookmarks.html | > | >make a copy for each user in their .netscape directory | > | >Tom | > | >Sevatio Octavio wrote: | >> | >> I'm trying to get one of the Netscape users to have the same bookmarks as the |root user. Is there a way to make a link so that | >> they're always the same or would I just make a copy? Where would I find the |files necessary to make this possible? | >> | >> Seve | > -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] How To Kill An Application From Command Line?
killall Eg, killall xterm On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Is there a general rule for killing an application from the command line? For |example, I'm using kvoicecontrol to activate programs | and I would like to tell it to shutdown the programs also. | | Thanks | Seve -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Solved: Printer problem in mdk 7.0
If you have a color printer and it is being identified as black and white, then I think that the printer identification must not be correct. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Thank you fou your help. Ans thanks too for all other gays that try to give | advise. Infortunately, because some mail problems I only could receive this | one. | | Nevertheless, Tom, I couldn't do what you say. This is because, on | installation, Mandrake identifies very well my print and sugests (correctly, | I guess) that I use as filter print Desject/Deskjet Plus. The problem is | that this filter have no options to colour bit, I mean, this have only a | 'default' option. So I can' t make any change at all. I guess that there is | nothing to do except wait to another Linux Mandrake. | | Thanks | Alvaro Nunes | | | - Original Message - | From: "Tom Berkley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 4:09 AM | Subject: Re: [expert] Solved: Printer problem in mdk 7.0 | | | > Color works fine. Fire up printtool as root and select your printer then | > edit | > In the print filter there is a selection for the color bits. You | > probably took the default 8 bits which will give you a great b&w printer | > with 256 shades of gray. Select 24bit color and you should enjoy some | > nice color output. | > | > Tom | > | > Alvaro Nunes wrote: | > > | > > Hi | > > | > > Can you make color prints or only black & white? I ask this because I | have a | > > Deskjet 970Cxi and only prints on B&W. | > > | > > Thanks | > > Alvaro | > > | > > - Original Message - | > > From: "Tom Berkley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:55 PM | > > Subject: Re: [expert] Solved: Printer problem in mdk 7.0 | > > | > > > I have an HP Deskjet 895 with USB and parallel cables attached | > > > simultaneously. Works fine but when I print from Win98 thru the USB | > > > cable and then reboot to linux and try to use the parallel cable | > > > connection, the printer must be powered off before I attempt any | printer | > > > access or I have to reboot again after cycling the printer power to | make | > > > the printer work with linux. | > > > | > > > Tom | > > > | > > > Norman Carver wrote: | > > > > | > > > > Printer is now working via parallel port. Problem | > > > > appeared to be due to having both the usb and parallel | > > > > cables attached to the printer. Win98 has no problem | > > > > with this with the Epson, but Linux appears to--no | > > > > output as I mentioned in earlier post. While we had tried | > > > > disconnecting this cable and rebooting before (without | > > > > success), we may not have shut printer down in between | > > > > as we did this time. So usb cable has been removed. | > > > > Still a bit hard to understand how this can be the issue. | > > > > If the Epson works fine with both attached in Win98, why | > > > > won't it work under Linux? | > > > > | > > > > Anyway, my friends setup is a bit closer. Now if we can | > > > > just get X configured nicely for his Rage Pro Turbo. | > > > > He is getting ghosting, which I gather implies improper | > > > > settings. Perhaps will post on this later if we cannot | > > > > make progress. | > > > > | > > > > Thanks, | > > > > Norm Carver | > > > | > -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Data Recovery Help Needed
No, mke2fs is a "format" command. It's not a good way to recover . . . If you are going to attempt any recovery from disk errors, it's always a good idea to backup first. Hope you backed up sometime; otherwise, you're just SOL. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I managed to get one of those blocking errors again and I performed a mk2fs to fix |it. However, all my data is gone from that | drive. Is there a program or a way to recover any data that might still be on there? | | Seve -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] X Font Server & Mach64
You probably deleted files from /tmp. Owing to a Mandrake bug that civilme recently diagnosed based on my trouble report, this can cause trouble. The only known fix is to re-install X and the X font server. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, you wrote: | OS: LM 6.1 | Graphics Card: ATI Rage Mach64 | RAM: 128MB | Processor: 200MHz Intel II | | My system was operating just fine until yesterday. I made some changes to a | couple of directories, which only had data files, not system files in them. | | However, upon reboot I got the following: I saw the normal startup (e.g., | system info, daemon startup, etc.) - no strange messages, except that the | "at" daemon failed to start. X was configured to start right away, but this | time the monitor wouldn't display the GUI (a faint light flickered). | | I thought it might have been my XF86Config file, but it wasn't. I ran | Xconfigurator, too, which gave me a graphical display, so I know it's not | the monitor. (I have three other machines using the same monitor -- one of | which is also a LM 6.1 machine.) The following message output makes me | believe it's font/card related. | | I did get the following output when I ran startx: | | (--) Mach64: card type: pci | (--) Mach64: memory type: SGRAM(5) | (--) Mach64: clock type: internal | (--) Mach64: maximum allowed dot clock: 230.000 Mhz | (**) Mach64: mode "1024x768": mode clock = 75.000 | (--) Mach64: virtual resolution: 1024x768 | (--) Mach64: video ram 8192k | (--) Mach64: using hardware cursor | (--) Mach64: using 16MB aperture @ 0xfc0 | (--) Mach64: using 4k register aperture | (--) Mach64: ramdac is internal | (--) Mach64: ramdac speed is 230Mhz | (**) Mach64: color weight: 565 | (--) Mach64: pixmap cache: 2 256x256 slots, 8 128x128 slots, 32 64x64 slots | (--) Mach64: font cache: 16 fonts | _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 | failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' | Fatal server error: | could not open default font 'fixed' | mach64ProgramClkMach64CT: Warning: Q < 10.6667 | | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) | | | Can anyone shed some light on this problem for me? What should I change? | | -Lief Erickson | not a Linux guru, but no dummy either. -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: Re[2]: [expert] X Font Server & Mach64
No, no, just go into rpmdrake or kpackage or whatever and re-install those two packges. Don't re-install the whole system. Don't even re-install the X server, just the base X package. Shouldn't over-write anything important other than your XF86Config, and might not even over-write that, depending on where you keep it. Or, to do this the old-fashioned way (the way I did it), Go to your cdrom drive and then [save your XF86Config someplace safe] cd Mandrake/RPMS rpm -U --force XFree86-3.3.6-4mdk.i586.rpm rpm -U -force XFree86-xfs-3.3.6-4mdk.i586.rpm [restore XF86Config] Truth to tell, I'm not sure if you need to re-install the former package, but I did so I know it'll work. ON THE OTHER HAND, if you didn't go into /tmp, then I could be barking up the wrong tree. Still, it's worth a try, methinks. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Brian wrote: | > You probably deleted files from /tmp. | > | > Owing to a Mandrake bug that civilme recently diagnosed based on my | > trouble report, this can cause trouble. | > | > The only known fix is to re-install X and the X font server. | | Wow! I just reported the same problem to the newbie list. I'm sure I | didn't go into /tmp consciously. | | OK, if I install, I guess I uncheck everything except X and its font | server (assuming that is listed). What parts of my configuration are | likely to get overwritten? | | Lane | | Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA | -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] cron
Or just edit a plain ol' text file, and then pass it in to the 'cron' command. As he said, just do this as a user. Very easy, very flexible. Eg, make a file like this, called mycron. 10 * * * * /home/myself/bin/ftpget 20 * * * * /home/myself/bin/ftpput 30 11 * * sun /home/myself/bin/cleanup This does an ftpget at 10 past the hour and an ftpput at 20 past the hour, every hour, every day, every month. It also would run a script called "cleanup" every Sunday in the middle of church services. Then to use this script, just do cron mycron On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Uhh, in my opinion it's best to leave cron.hourly and cron.daily alone. Read the | manpage; every user can set his own cron up using crontab (editing with crontab | -e). It's possible to specify time in a very very flexible way there. For | example: every 5 minutes; every 2nd minute after a quarter of an hour has passed | by (02;17;32;47), every 14'th day of any odd-numbered month at 16:28, etc... | | I could explain everything here, but "man 5 crontab" can do a much better job at | that than I can without quoting it ;-) | | One thing though; crontab -e uses vi as its editor. If you don't know how to | work with it, there's a workaround: simply type "export VISUAL=joe" at the | prompt before you do "crontab -e". It then uses joe as its editor. You can set | whatever you want with it; I just used joe as example beause it's the editor I | mostly use. | | In addtion you might look at "man crontab" and "man cron" for more info. | | And uhh... Where's that site? Just out of curiosity :-) | | | On Mar 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | > Hey all.. After a period of inactivity I am back on my work project.. | > I'm really close but have some cron questions.. Here's what I'm doing.. | > | > I have a linux box running Mdk 6.1.. It has 2 nics. One has a static | > internet ip address.. The other has an address that is in the range of 2 | > SGI machines and a Solaris machine that are on the tv weatherman's | > network at work ( tv station ). | > | > The idea of this is to FTP .jpg maps to the web site.. I got the mdk | > box up and running, and using ncftpget and ncftpput, I can get all the | > maps in a command.. Long ncftp command line, made into a script.. | > Then I chmod a+x'ed em.. So I can "get" all the maps off the SGI Indigo | > 2 by typing ./ftpget.. | > | > In turn send em to the web via ./ftpput.. I'm very happy about my | > progress in this.. I'm a new Linux user and was challenged by the boss | > to do this.. So all I need to do now is automate this.. | > | > Using cron.. From what I'm reading, cron can execute scripts.. right?? | > Just like the scripts I created.. | > | > If I put both ./ftpget then ./ftpput in cron.hourly, it will do this | > once an hour,, right??? I have also been reading about being able to | > specify an exact time in cron.. ( this is more wanted, due to certain | > maps being updated at specific hourly times..) | > | > So also in addition to the above, I would like to add rdate --sp | > time.xx.xx to cron.daily then | > the systohc stuff.. Both of these need root permission.. Can cron do | > this?? I'm a little vague on this.. | > | > Both the ftp commands are exec by user.. | > | > If someone can help, I would be more than greatful, since I've been | > working on this for sometime and have learned | > GOBS about linux.. I just find the man cron a little vague about a | > number of things.. | > | > THanks! | > Alan | > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | -- | | Rial Juan<http://nighty.ulyssis.org> | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 | ulyssis system admininstrator <http://www.ulyssis.org> | | The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. | That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... | | | | Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html | Help bring us more Linux Drivers -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] howto start prog/server on boot with user account
Just stick it at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local. To make it be the account notes, you can either use the "su"commnad to run it, or you can make the server command suid notes. (That is, chown it to be owned by "notes" and then chmod +s it.) On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hi, | | i have a Notes/Domino server installed on my linux box. this server has | to be started | with the user account "notes". | the start-command is "/opt/lotus/bin/server" | | how to i configure so that this server starts automatically after reboot | ? -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?
FWIW, sound was working for me in VMware 1.x, but it fails for me in VMware 2.0. I've entered a bug on this issue to VMware support just yesterday; I'll let you know when I hear from them. In the meantime you might want to see if you can find a copy of VMware 1.x. Or just forget iabout it for a while. Hey! This is posting from Sunday but it just showed up today. And haven't you since dropped vmware? I think there's a problem with these mailing lists . . . On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Dear Kenneth and friends: | | Well, do I feel like an idiot! | | All I need to do is go in Configuration Editor to Memory and slide | memory bar to the right or left to increase or decreate memory alloted | to the Guest OS. Boy, do I feel bad. But I am so very grateful, | nonetheless, for this priceless bit of information. Now can someone tell | me, please, what is the path for the sound device. /dev/dsp doesn't seem | to work. And my SB AWE64 works great in Linux. | | Thanks a million. | | Benjamin | -- | Benjamin and Anna Sher | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sher's Russian Web | http://www.websher.net -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] WEIRD!
Not enough hard disk space, perhaps? Mandrake will quietly omit packages based on a priority order if there's not enough room. I consider this a highly questionable feature in general and totally wrong with an expert install, but that's what it does. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hello all. | | I'm dealing with a WEIRD situation for 2 days. | Trying to install Mandrake Linux (7.02 ISO) on a Pentium 90, 32 Mb RAM | (like 5 others on the lab) , I got a terminal with NO window managers. Only on this | machine! | NONE. No Gnome, KDE or Widowmaker... | And I'm use the expert mode, and try to install ALL packages. | | What could be happening? | | Thanx! -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
[expert] List settings
Would it be possible to set up this list so that a (g)roup reply under kmail wouldn't send TWO copies to the list? Perhaps the list software could just quietly delete one copy if two indentical copies of the same piece of mail come in on the same path within seconds of each other? -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
First, I think you should send this to Mandrake, not to a user's group. Second, if that's your attitude we'll all be happy to see you go. OTOH, I have some sympathy for your attitude. It seems to be very hard to get a definitive answer to whether a problem has been fixed or not, though I admit to being unsure of precisely what problem you are complaining about. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote: | For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a | defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing | cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then | why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of code? | I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive | market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me that | Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with the | ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would | think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once | again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the world | of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even understand | business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to | correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat | distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day and | Good Luck. | SA | __ | Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
It is also possible that the mkisofs bug (about which I have previously written -- see test file at http://www.babbleon.org) is causing a problem with the burned CD, depening on which verison of mkisofs he used to burn the CD. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Wolfgang Bornath wrote: | | > On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 09:12 -0800, Tom Berkley wrote: | > > Sean | > > | > > I cannot relate at all to what you are talking about. After 1 year | > > playing with linux and using five different distros, I use Mandrake 7.0 | > > (GL edition) on both my laptop and my dual celeron smp box with only one | > > problem that I had to work around. Mandrake 7.0 is a stud muffin linux | > > and if you cannot get it to work, then you probably did not pay any | > > attention to the hardware compatibility issues. Learn more and quit | > > venting your frustrations here. There is a LOT of documentation and you | > > have a lot of reading ahead of you. | > | > Well, Sean might have a point in what he writes (although I'm | > not very pleased of his style). He might, but I found something | > out concerning this "cannot initiate cdrom" problem. | > | > I picked up a PowerPack on Feb 1st at the MandrakeSoft office. | > It's a "real" 7.0 with the bug in DrakX which was fixed in 7.02. | > | > It installed without probs from a generic atapi cdrom drive and | > from a Plextor SCSI cdrom drive as well as from my SCSI Plextor | > CD-writer. | > | > Then I made several copies of the installation cd to try several | > brands of cd-r. Made all copies with the same versions of | > mkisofs and cdrecord. | > | > Outcome was (and here I'm getting back OnTopic) that some copies | > installed w/o probs and some copies gave me that "failed to | > initiate cdrom" error message. | > | > So, could it be that this problem is not only caused by a | > hardware incompatibility but also by using "incompatible" cd-r | > media? If so, then Sean's complaints may really matching his | > style. If not so, then just put this mail into /dev/nul and | > forget it. | > | > Hope this mail gets through to the list. The last four(!) did | > not. | > | > wobo | > -- | > GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE | > For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request | > --- | > ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html | | I have noticed that most older drives have problems with the silver/dark blue | media particularly, perhaps because there aren't enough lumens out of their | lasers for the absorption of the media. | | Civileme -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] dev busy problems
You might want to check out /var/lock just for grins . . . On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | DD | | | As root try this command: | | /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig | | If it works then put in your /etc/rc.d/rc.serial. Also change ttyS1 to | the serial port that your modem is on (0 is #1, 1 is #2, etc). Make the | file executable if you created an rc.serial, do not worry about anything | else. The startup script will run this during boot if it exists. | | If it does not work then change the irq to something that is not | assigned and then back the irq for the serial port (irq 4 or irq 3). For | my laptop I use irq 6. You cannot put this in a startup script. I do not | know why and have not hacked thru it to find out. I just know that it | works for my laptop pcmcia modem. | | | Tom | | Dennis Davis wrote: | > | > Hello | > I have been using Slackware for some time now, got a Mandrake 6.1 dist with | > a programming book (GNU C++ for Linux, by Tom Swan). It looked pretty good | > so I tried it, | > all was well until I tried to use sound and modem. They are both pnp. I've | > set them up before | > without problem, but now if I try to use them I get a busy notice. I've | > checked /proc and made | > sure that the io and irq's are not used, and I've tried using minicom with | > the modem to make sure | > it wasn't an X problem. But minicom just tells me that I'm online already | > (I'm not) and | > kppp says that the modem is busy? All I can think of is that it must be in | > the startup | > scripts somewhere and since I came from slackware, Mandrake's startup stuff | > is different and I | > haven't figured it out yet. I did managed to screw-up my ptys though, system | > says it cannot open master side of pty. I really would like to keep this | > dist on as it has many more featuers | > than the slackware 4.0 that I have. Can anyone help with this? | > Thanks Dennis | > | > P.S I used to use configuration manager for pnp. Its a kernel patch that | > puts a dir in proc /proc/cm. I could then enable my pnp modem for instance | > by putting a simple | > line in my rc.local script ie. echo d serial,gvc1601 a 2 >/proc/cm/conf . | > This patch | > was by David Howells I belive. I haven't been able to find it again and all | > I have left in a | > diskette with a 2.0 something kernel on it. It boots nicely but still | > getthat device busy with mandrake installed! | > Does anyone know where I can find the current patch? It used to be | > ??.helmet.???.???, Please don't respond with the pnp stuff included with the | > kernel source(it sucks). -- I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
It is my observation that Mandrake is more weighted towards performance and features, relative to quality control, stability, and testing on disparate systems than some other distibutions. I believe that both Caldera and Redhat beat it on this score; Caldera is particularly stable if it works at all, but less flexible and definately further behind. The do have good tech support in my experience, but others here have experienced the opposite. Redhat's was terrible when I last used it; otherwise, I'd use the "home-town boys" for my Linux still. (They are within 20 miles of our house.) On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I just want to reemphasize that I wasn't intending to flame anyone. But my | point remains. When linux was a totally ad-hoc thing, there was an excuse | for this kind of thing. Now, with companies like mandrake building and | shipping distros, I sometimes wonder if there is even a pretense at quality | control. I don't think mandrake is any worse than redhat, caldera or | whoever, and I don't expect bottomless, free maintenance, but I do expect | something close to stable. I haven't tried 7.02, but from what I heard, | the initial 7.0 was absolutely terrible, in terms of quality. I know there | are limited man-hours to do a new release, but if I had a choice, I'd opt | for some larger chunk to be spent on QA as opposed to neat new features. I | haven't played with other distros before, so I have no idea how they stack | up against mandrake on this issue. -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
My experience was that v6.1 of RedHat, and v4.2 of RedHat, but not v5.x of Redhat were both more reliable / had few unpleasent surprises than Mandrake. However my experience with RedHat tech support was so negative that I shan't go back anyway, and Mandrake has lots of cool reasons to use it. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Sean Armstrong wrote: | | > For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a | > defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing | > cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then | > why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of code? | > I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive | > market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me that | > Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with the | > ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would | > think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once | > again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the world | > of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even understand | > business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to | > correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat | > distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day and | > Good Luck. | > SA | > __ | > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com | | Sorry, but I just can't help myself... | | You think Mandrake is messed up and your going back to RedHat 'cause its more | reliable - What ver of RedHat??? no version of RedHat I've seen can come near | Mandrake, but if you've found one, please tell us all, as I'm sure I'm not the | only one who wants to know. -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] WEIRD!
Well, Mandrake will fill a partition no more than 50% full, even if you have a separate /usr partition and even if /usr/local is also on a seperate partition. Still, 40% seems a little low unless that's what you set that little slider to on the install. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > Not enough hard disk space, perhaps? | > | > Mandrake will quietly omit packages based on a priority order if | > there's not enough room. | > | > I consider this a highly questionable feature in general and totally | > wrong with an expert install, but that's what it does. | > | | I thought about it too... But I'm using 2 hard disks, | (1 Gb + 800 M) , and after teh installation, none get more | than 40% occupied.. -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] dev busy problems
This is probably NOT the problem, but sometimes a file is software locked by locking the file (including a device) in /var/lock/. I thought you might want to check there for ttyS1. That apparently wasn't it, and I'm afraid it's all I had to suggest; you've already tried all the stuff that looks reasonable to me. On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Nothing is /var/lock that stood out. Say more about /var/lock. | | Thanks | | Tom | | "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: | > | > You might want to check out /var/lock just for grins . . . | > | > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > | DD | > | | > | | > | As root try this command: | > | | > | /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig | > | | > | If it works then put in your /etc/rc.d/rc.serial. Also change ttyS1 to | > | the serial port that your modem is on (0 is #1, 1 is #2, etc). Make the | > | file executable if you created an rc.serial, do not worry about anything | > | else. The startup script will run this during boot if it exists. | > | | > | If it does not work then change the irq to something that is not | > | assigned and then back the irq for the serial port (irq 4 or irq 3). For | > | my laptop I use irq 6. You cannot put this in a startup script. I do not | > | know why and have not hacked thru it to find out. I just know that it | > | works for my laptop pcmcia modem. | > | | > | | > | Tom | > | | > | Dennis Davis wrote: | > | > | > | > Hello | > | > I have been using Slackware for some time now, got a Mandrake 6.1 dist |with | > | > a programming book (GNU C++ for Linux, by Tom Swan). It looked pretty good | > | > so I tried it, | > | > all was well until I tried to use sound and modem. They are both pnp. I've | > | > set them up before | > | > without problem, but now if I try to use them I get a busy notice. I've | > | > checked /proc and made | > | > sure that the io and irq's are not used, and I've tried using minicom with | > | > the modem to make sure | > | > it wasn't an X problem. But minicom just tells me that I'm online already | > | > (I'm not) and | > | > kppp says that the modem is busy? All I can think of is that it must be in | > | > the startup | > | > scripts somewhere and since I came from slackware, Mandrake's startup stuff | > | > is different and I | > | > haven't figured it out yet. I did managed to screw-up my ptys though, system | > | > says it cannot open master side of pty. I really would like to keep this | > | > dist on as it has many more featuers | > | > than the slackware 4.0 that I have. Can anyone help with this? | > | > Thanks Dennis | > | > | > | > P.S I used to use configuration manager for pnp. Its a kernel patch that | > | > puts a dir in proc /proc/cm. I could then enable my pnp modem for instance | > | > by putting a simple | > | > line in my rc.local script ie. echo d serial,gvc1601 a 2 >/proc/cm/conf . | > | > This patch | > | > was by David Howells I belive. I haven't been able to find it again and all | > | > I have left in a | > | > diskette with a 2.0 something kernel on it. It boots nicely but still | > | > getthat device busy with mandrake installed! | > | > Does anyone know where I can find the current patch? It used to be | > | > ??.helmet.???.???, Please don't respond with the pnp stuff included with the | > | > kernel source(it sucks). | > -- | > I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger). | > I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . | > I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org . | > I boycott amazon.com. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html . -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] Formerly: Mandrake 7.02 is messed up
Mandrake 7.0 made no claims to be a test distribution, and the idea that it should be any less stable than 6.1 is simply wrong-headed. Putting out a "real" release is a promise to your customers that you've got another stable cut of the product. On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 07:22 -0600, Sean Armstrong wrote: | > | > I agree with you that 7.0 + is not as backwards compatible. I understand | > what you are saying about older hardware. But, I do believe the original | > idea of Linux was so that it worked on all of these old pieces of hardware. | | Certainly you are right with this principle. It's amazing what | Linux can do with a worn out 386-33 box. | | But this is not the point here. All-in-all Linux is here to get | every *normal* piece of hardware to do it's very best. Cut out | the *junk-hardware* as GDI(Win)-printers or those halfhearted | modem cards. | | That's the overall picture. Now we get to the pixels of that | picture. | | Each distribution has it's special corner in the market. IMHO | there is no egg-producing-wooly-milk-giving-pig (that's a german | saying for one-fits-and-does-everything). | | That has to be in the same way as cars are here for the | overall purpose of transportation. But there are reliable trucks | and vans for the stable heavy-duty tasks, luxory limos for the | one who want his toilet-paper warmed before usage, and sleek | sportscars with state-of-the-art souped up engines and special | tires and manual gear-shifting. | | Now, would you use such a sportscar on a rainy day when you | *have* to rely on getting to your destination on time? Or would | you rather take a normal, less fancy but the more reliable car? | Or would you complain about that sportscar being too rough on a | bumpy road? | | I hope I did not offend all the bikers with my useage of car | examples ;-) | | Here comes the stable MDK 6.1 for your daily work. And here | comes the new fancy MDK 7.0x for testing your hardware to the | limits and checking out what *modern* Linux can do with *modern* | hardware. | | When I got MDK 7.0 I installed it on a test machine and played | with it for some time. After it was running stable (in the areas | I use it) I made it my main system where I do my daily work. | | I'll do the same with the next version, and the next, and | | If I find that my hardware will no longer match the newest | software I can decide if I want to upgrade my hardware or stick | to the level of Linux which matches my hardware. | | Now I get the impression I'm repeating myself. Boring... | | wobo | -- | GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE | For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request | --- | ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] /bin/login
Re-install the package (util-linux, in this case, at least for 7.0). On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hi, doing some routine admin, accidentally erased /bin/login | Anyone have any ideas how to handle? -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] shutdown..
This must depend on your hardware; it worked just fine for me in RedHat 6.1 as well as in Mandrake 7.0. (With a Dell Inspiron 7500.) On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote: | > Linux can shutdown your machine automatically AND safely only if you | > currently are running single processor mode. If you are shutting down | > from smp, the power manager has been disabled and is unavailable to do | > the shutdown. In the future maybe, but now from smp mode YOU get to push | > the button. | > | APM (at least in RedHat/Mandrake 5.x and 6.x) is buggy and will cause the | symptoms exhibited by the person who posted the original question. I can't | speak for Mandrake 7.x, though. | John -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] Boot Kernels; Formerly: Mandrake 7.02 is messed up
I hesitate to add to this thread, but I have a point that I don't *think* has been made already; to wit: On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, you wrote: | But it is the point here. The Linux kernel supports this hardware and the | earlier version of Mandrake supported the hardware. If we are going to dump | this support, then Mandrake should at the very least not label the product | stable, as they have done, and develop some sort of patch for the problem. | The problem doesn't occur in the Linux part of the distribution, the problem | only occurs in the software that Mandrake wrote for the distribution. Actually, the way that Mandrake (or any other distribution) supports the hardware for the installation is to use special kernel used for the distribution. This special kernel must fit on the floppy (since reading the CD-ROM driver from the CD-ROM is a classic "bootstrap problem"). There's no surprise the that "regular" kernel supports your CD-ROM; given the existance of modules, the regular kernel can be of essentially infinite potential size in order to support everything; the install kernel, by contrast is strictly limited in its size; as newer devices are added, older devices *must* be dropped. It's just a matter of mathematics. Now I'm not sure if that's what happened here or not, but I believe that it's helpful to understand how this works. Thank you for your attention.l -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
I recommend that those who find Madrake difficult or confusing to install try Caldera OpenLinux. I know that different people have different experiences, but I found it simple and smooth. Of course, it doesn't support all the choices Mandrake gives you and it's not optimized, and if it doesn't work on your computer you'll have a hard time working around it. But if it works at all it's very smooth. Sort of like Windows, in other words, but it's still Linux and you can install (some) packages for the stuff it doesn't ship with. On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, you wrote: | On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: | > I just want to reemphasize that I wasn't intending to flame anyone. But my | > point remains. When linux was a totally ad-hoc thing, there was an excuse | > for this kind of thing. Now, with companies like mandrake building and | > shipping distros, I sometimes wonder if there is even a pretense at quality | > control. I don't think mandrake is any worse than redhat, caldera or | > whoever, and I don't expect bottomless, free maintenance, but I do expect | > something close to stable. I haven't tried 7.02, but from what I heard, | > the initial 7.0 was absolutely terrible, in terms of quality. I know there | > are limited man-hours to do a new release, but if I had a choice, I'd opt | > for some larger chunk to be spent on QA as opposed to neat new features. I | > haven't played with other distros before, so I have no idea how they stack | > up against mandrake on this issue. | | | I am inclined to agree to a point. I had problems with suse (nothing would | compile without some obscure version of a file I had never heard of e.g. | /usr/include/ stuff or libc.so.splash), so I switched to Mandrake - largely on | the advertised benefits. So far it has been a total disaster, although I know a | little, and the disaster is not of my doing either. A cd was faulty, I am | getting screwed up root partitions (e2fsck throws me out with the -p option and | then throws up 50 errors) the install goes crazy - losing the database, and so | forth. Mandrake doesn't seem to cut the mustard unless nothing fazes you, in | which case you don't need a distribution anyhow. I have picked packages at | least six tiomes without getting it right. When I went to RTFM, the FM is only | 'how to shine', not 'how to fix'. | | Suse by comparison was as simple as windoze '95 to install. | | | -- | Regards, | | Declan Moriarty. -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Boycott amazon.com. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Support decss defendents.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Well, it "should" work out of the box, and you didn't give much info, but I'll take a stab in the dark. 1. "supermount disable" will allow you to access your non-DOS-formatted floppies (the old fashioned way, with mount). 2. "rm /dev/cdrom; ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom" will let you access your CD-RW drive from reading CD-ROMS. The former is a "feature" that many of find to be more trouble than it's worth; the latter is a bug. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, you wrote: | | After installing Mandrake 7.0 what files do I edit | to give me access to my floppy and cdrom? | Thanks, | Vern | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Linux and DVD and Supermount
I have a copy of decss. Actually, injunction or no, I doubt it's that hard to find if you search, but if anybody is having trouble let me know and I'll mail it to you and/or post it temporarily on my web site. (I've never used it, mind you; I downloaded it as more of a political statement than anything else -- I don't have have a DVD drive.) On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, you wrote: | I can pretty well verify that it does not work with DVD-RAM. | Which is OK. I don't yet have full information on making it | work, but I will post when I do. | | Most of those tools are in your 7.0 distro already (all they | could cram in without hiring another lawyer) I recommend browsing | the RPMs on the distro disks. | | If you are fortunate enough to have DeCSS (pre-injunction), you | can add that and likely play movies without a decoder, but then | decoder cards are fairly inexpensive these days, | except they have the annoying "regionalization" feature -- | they'll decode only DVDs | prepared specifically for your "region". This allows the folks | to sell a DVD move 6 months later at three times the price just | across the border from you. And yes, if you buy a DVD Player in | Germany, it is not likely to play American DVDs. | | Civileme | | | | Vincent Danen wrote: | > | > Does Supermount work with DVD-ROM's under Linux? I installed an Acer IDE | > DVD-ROM today and it made things go *extremely* slow until I commented out | > the /etc/fstab entry for the device. The GIMP hung and all kinds of other | > unpleasant things happened. Now I've got it so I have to manually mount | > it and it seems to be ok. Any idea why this might be? | > | > Also, how do I get to view DVD movies under Linux? I looked at the LiViD | > page and it's talking about patching the kernel for DVD fs support and | > whatnot, or else using a development kernel with it built in. Any | > suggestions on the best way to go about it? I've always been a little | > reluctant to mess with the kernel and I don't really like the idea of | > patching it. Is there a module or something I can just slap in there? | > | > Any info would be appreciated. I'd like to get this running under Linux | > so I can show off to a few Windows users... =) | > | > -- | > [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net | > Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 | > Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org | | -- | Remember that if it is done on networks, it may occur on | your host which is a network unto itself. -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
