[expert] Re: gnome audio, terminal transparency, and backgroud color
wrong address... On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:05:22 -0500 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Subject: gnome audio, terminal transparency, and backgroud color + + I have set ML 8.2 on three different boxes now and all have the same + symptoms. I looked all over and have found nothing, so now I turn to you, + the people on the expert mailing list. Three things, and I will try to be + as detailed as possibile, and please excuse my spelling, spell check is + screwed up. + + 1. Gnome sound events dont work. XMMS works, Xmovie plays, the cdplayer + plays. It is just the gnome sound events dont play. If you go in to the + gnome control center and click sounds, they are enable there. Both 'Enable + sound server startup' and 'Sounds for events' are checked. If you click on + 'Play' for any of the sounds, they dont play, BUT if you click 'Apply' and + wait a couple of seconds for it to think, you can then click on any one of + the sounds and hit 'Play' and they work. As soon as you close out the sound + properties, no more. If you go back in, you are right back to start where + it wont play any sounds unless you click 'Apply' again. + + 2. Gnome terminals refuse to do transparent windows. If you click + 'Settings' Preference' and choose the 'Image' tab, you can select + 'Transparent' but it does nothing. Just black. You can change it to a + different color and that works, or you can use an image as a background and + that works, but never transparent. + + 3. The gnome background color will not stay. I can go in and change it by + hand, log out, and log back in and it is back to that bright red color. I + have 'Automatically save changes to session' checked under the 'Startup + Programs' in gnome control center too. + + I figure that I must have inadvertantly not installed something that is not + required to make gnome run, but really damn useful : ). I hope I was + descriptive enought to help anyone help me. So, help me please, and I + appreciate your time for reading all of this if you have. Thanks . . . + + Doug Gruber + + Jim Miller is our quarterback, just like Olin Kreutz is our center and the + A-Train (Anthony Thomas) is our running back. That's not to say some phenom + can't come out of the woodwork and surprise everybody and get it done. I + would never say that guy's the starter forever regardless of what happens. + - Bears head coach Dick Jauron. + -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firewall....
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :~hi, :~ :~can anyone recommand a firewall application with a web administration interface? :~ :~thank's. Not yet, but in a month or so... See here: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001228025051 have fun! Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] Hard disk problems
Except for the fact that your machine is running RH, and not LM, I don't see any reasons why you should not be able to do that. "dd" should be able to do exactly what you have asked for. If you feel that dd is too much for you, you can always opt for installing some minimal linux install, just to get your new HD partitioned the easy way, then erase everything which the installer put on new server and copy all the files from old HD to new one. When you are done, you'll have to fix /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf, and run lilo to get your bootloader in sync, but that's about it. cu Denis On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Tejinder Singh wrote: :~Dear reader(s), :~ :~I have a machine running RH Linux. It's taken me a long time and numerous package :downloads to set this up just so... :~ :~The Linux machine now acts as an intranet server and provides access to the outside :world for my other machines. :~ :~Anyway, that's the background, now for the problem: :~ :~Just lately I've started to notice a low frequency whirring sound when the machine :is initially powered up. This remains :~for about a minute and then goes. I'm diagnosing this as the beginning of a failure :of my hard disk, the one with all the :~Linux bits on it. :~ :~Ideally I would find the following course of action least daunting: :~ :~1) Buy a new hard drive. The existing one is 8 MByte. I would like a larger :~20MByte replacement. :~ :~2) Duplicate the contents if the existing drive on the new one. The new one may :have extra partitions if the partitions on :~it are exactly the same size as on the old disk. :~ :~3) Take out the old disk, or maybe even leave it in there as an extra disk and :place the new one in as the main /dev/hda :~boot disk. :~ :~4) Power On the PC and the system comes up exactly as it used to before the noise :started (with some extra disk space). :~ :~Am I hoping for too much or is there a utility out there that can help me do this. :~ :~Thanks for reading this. :~ :~ :~Regards, :~ :~Tej.. :~ :~ :~ :~=_974833210-6637-0 :~Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" :~Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message.footer" :~Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit :~ :~Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: :~Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. :~ :~=_974833210-6637-0-- :~ :~ -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] 7.2 and ata100
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Burkhard Zombronner wrote: :~Hello there, :~ :~could anyone give an advise if Mandrake 7.2 supports ATA100 right out of the :~box ? :~ Depends... Some people have problems, other are delighted. ATA100 support is still kind of new http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001006105635 Beware of WD drives - these were causing trouble with UATA66 already! cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Can I use my Mandrake home for Debian?
:~I have about 9GB of unused space since I uninstalled Be. My home directory :~its own partition. Do you think it would hurt my Mandrake if I used is as :~my home in Debian. I have a backup of it on a seperate partition, and a :~compressed backup on a CD, but I'd like to not use those if possible. I don't know for sure, but it should not be a big problem. If really nothing else works, get yourself 2 small home dirs and let them share a big "data" subdir. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Sympa doesn't work
Which version of sympa rpm? cu Denis On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, bill wrote: :~Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:32:24 -0500 :~From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Subject: [expert] Sympa doesn't work :~ :~Is sympa suppose to work right without additional software, namely Berkly :~DB? When I try to start sympa i get: :~ :~[root@elmo sympa]# /home/sympa/bin/sympa.pl :~Can't locate DB_File.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/sympa/bin :~/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 :~/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 :~/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at :~/home/sympa/bin/List.pm line 193. :~BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sympa/bin/List.pm line 193. :~Compilation failed in require at /home/sympa/bin/Commands.pm line 14. :~BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sympa/bin/Commands.pm line 14. :~Compilation failed in require at /home/sympa/bin/sympa.pl line 17. :~BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/sympa/bin/sympa.pl line 17. :~ :~Thanks in advance, :~Bill :~ :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Troubles with ISDN and CD-Writing (fwd)
-- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Forwarded message -- Date: 20 Oct 2000 15:05:28 +0200 From: dam's [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Troubles with ISDN and CD-Writing (fwd) Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this could interest you -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:54:36 +0200 From: Felix Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Troubles with ISDN and CD-Writing Hello all, I use mandrake 7.1 and I like it very much. It is used for internet connection sharing through isdn with several windows clients on the network. I use the same machine for burning cd's. When I burn a cd, isdn troughput drops to almost zero... What could be the cause (and solution) of this? ??? strange The problem is for me, the CPU consomption. ISDN uses CPU, and if your computer is not very strong, it can allow all its ressource to the burning... I don't know, maybe use 'nice' .. My 2 cents -- dam's Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Mandrake supports closed source when it suits them
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Tim Litwiller wrote: :~http://alllinuxdevices.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-10-12-005-03-PL-HH :~ :~is a press release from Mandrake and Avantgo announcing that :~Mandrake news is :~now available as an Avantgo channel. To quote: "MandrakeSoft has :~signed a :~content provider partnership with AvantGo Inc. to offer the :~latest :~Linux-Mandrake news on PDAs such as the Palm." :~ :~Now, Mandrake, being a Linux company, would obviously not want to :~shut out :~a community-developed open solution in favor of a commercial :~closed :~solution, would they? Anyone (preferably someone who uses :~Mandrake - aka :~a customer of theirs) feel like dropping them a line and asking :~them to :~provide the necessary information to create a sitescooper .site, :~since :~they obviously have something set up for PDA-targetted content? If I had a palm, I would know what you are talking about, but I don't. And Same holds for this AvantGo thingy... I'm the one who is responsible for forum (http://mandrakeforum.com/), and you can bet your ass that I will provide you whit whatever you need, just ask for it. clear enough? cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Why must I confirm to post to the list?
Why don't you stop charging your own failures on pure sympa? Hoyt is subscribed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And sends e-mails as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of coarse he will be asked for comfirmation! Also, people get unsubscribed because of bouncing messages too: this happens very often to hotmail users, and there is nothing I can do against it, unless you prefere the situation we had some months ago when these folks were blocking the mailserver... Grmbl. cu Denis :~Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:56:09 -0400 :~From: Hoyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Subject: Re: [expert] Why must I confirm to post to the list? :~ :~This is a multi-part message in MIME format... :~ :~=_970187052-21800-132 :~ :~ :~- Original Message - :~From: "ibi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:19 AM :~Subject: Re: [expert] Why must I confirm to post to the :~list? :~ :~ :~ Hoyt, :~ :~ I have the same problem. Sympa thinks I'm relaying a :~message :~ when I am not. :~ :~ :~fsck Sympa. :~ :~Why does this stuff keep being broken? :~ :~Hoyt :~ :~ :~ :~ :~=_970187052-21800-132 :~Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" :~Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message.footer" :~Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit :~ :~Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: :~Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. :~ :~=_970187052-21800-132-- :~ -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] web/email server
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: :~Finally got my gateway/router/firewall setup running with one of those :~single floppy packages (sorry Mandrake) and am looking to start on the :~web/email server and am looking for a place to start. :~ "Good place to start" is IMHO called "Corporate Server 1.0". cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Differences between Red Hat and Mandrake 7.1
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote: :~Therefore my question is: what are the differences between RH and Mandrake :~that a user needs to be aware of to avoid causing problems. To include: :~ :~file locations, config, etc.(I obviously do not know what else or I would :~not be asking the question). :~ As far as "file locations" go, there is very little difference between LM and RH. However, both RH and LM are going to change file positions a lot in the future, in order to be Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy compliant. Therefore, most of the the info about file-locations in these books will be wrong for ML 7.2. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Chinese LM (2) (fwd)
I guess not so many of you are subscribed to "forum" mailing list yet, so here is a little nuget for anyone who has a free time and wants to help us make a better distro. cheers Denis PS Subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list to get all the "mandrakeforum.com" headlines delivered to you.) -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Forwarded message -- Chinese LM (2) (http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=2831085156) A few days ago, a first Chinese LM article was posted on forum. Thus we realised that our Chinese support stinks, and what to do to make it better... How to print chinese texts stayed a kind of mistery, until Yuyu finally found the translated version of Chinese HOWTO today. (We have one chinese developer on the team, but he was so alone with the chinese text...). Well, I looked at a documentation, and downloaded the programs and fonts today, but to be honest, I have no time to test this stuff, and I have no idea who and when WILL have the time to do it. :-( Information providec in the HOWTO and packages seams rather clear to me, so anyone with some spare time at hand should be able to install what is needed to print chinese texts and tell us how it went. Any voluntiers? You always wanted to give us a hand, right?:-) FYI: If I understood the install instructions correctly, as a gift one gets support for printing the Japaneese and Korean texts too. This would be just fine with me .-)
[expert] Good Laptop/Notebook for ML 7.1? (fwd)
(http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/myarticle.php3?sid=2821065122) I recently received the following question I'm thinking of buying a notebook, and installing LM on it. Im in Singapore, and have problem to found out info about hardware compatibility. Could you suggest me some brand/model which will work withouth problems? Well, unfortunately we still do not have a notebook-compatibility DB, but maybe we could set a preliminary one here on "FAQ" section of mandrakeforum, until we have a "real" notebook-compatibility DB available. If you have installed LM 7.1 on a notebook, please answer to this story in a following way: Put notebook-s model/name in the subject line add a note (0 to 5) in brackets right after the notebook name. Give a description of problems encountered during instalation (if any), and workarounds you used to get these problems solved NOTES: 5 Perfect install, no problems, everything works 4 Smooth instalation, but some hardware not configured automatically, or needs a special driver (for instance, one has to run XFdrake after install to get X running, or HardDrake to get the sound going) 3 Smooth install, but some hardware not supported at all under Linux (modem, soundcard) 2 Bad failures: Unsupported graphic card, PCMCIA not working and such... 1 Hands off this model: it is a complete catastrophy under linux!
[expert] Help us improve ISDN support!
Discusion on the forum please! (http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/myarticle.php3?sid=2820105727) Dam's has been working on improving our ISDN support, and now he badly needs your help. Please dig out all the ISDN modems (internal and external) you can find, and try them out! Here is what he needs: In order to get as many PCI ISDN-cards as possible correctly configured, he needs: Product (model) name of your ISDN card output of cat /proc/pci command If you have a working ISDN modem (either internal (card), or external), please send him: Product (model) name of your external ISDN modem name, telephone number(s) and DNS adress(es) of your ISP /etc/ppp/* files
Re: [expert] ipchains logging
Sory, john... This time it is not sympa, it is our mailserver, DNS and god knows what else not playing nice, and believe me I'm quite pissed of myself too. Charles has promised that at least the DNS problem should be solved "soon", but there is basically nothing I can do at the moment :-( I really do not understand it: sympa picks up the mail, gives it to postfix, and postfix is supposed to deliver it. This receipt: # We will not tolerate any X-Loop-s! :0: * X-Loop:.*\@(linux\-mandrake|mandrakesoft)\.com mail/Xloop should strike in case of the loops, and there is no chance of sympa-caused dupes because its queue is empty. (Hm, maybe I'm wrong on this one... But i have never seen much more than 2-3 messages in the queue since i switched to a new server, so if sympa dies it should at least not cause MANY dupes.) In short, I do not understand what is going on, and prefere to hack on mandrakeforum.com at the moment than kill myself looking at mailserver gone mad. When Charles tells me that our DNS entry is OK, I'll look at it again. ### I wrote the text above yesterday. Today, mailserver seams to be working very nicely for the first time since we made a switch. But DNS is still troublesome: ... Aug 18 03:55:33 yavin postfix/smtp[10490]: D9E111CE6E: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=tdwarf.arc.nasa.gov[128.102.217.54], delay=28725, status=deferred (host tdwarf.arc.nasa.gov[128.102.217.54] said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [63.209.80.226]) ... ## In the meantime, I have (partially) hacked in the e-mail notification for the "mandrakeforum.com". So far, following works: 1) answers to your own posts are forwarded to you 2) mailing list where all forum-topics go ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Forum is still experimental, buggy, and and its machine can not handle much load, but it is much more fun than mailing lists, i like working on it, and it does not cause any mail-loops or bounces. :-b cu Denis :~On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, you wrote: :~ I've noticed the same thing. I checked out www.mandrax.org and it says :~ Welcome to Linux-Mandrake Website :~ but goes into a refresh loop :~ :~And I keep getting bounce messages from a UK server stating first :~that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" doesn't exist and now that :~"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" doesn't exist! *sigh* :~ :~I hate to say this, 'cause I think Denis is a nice guy and is trying :~really hard, but I can't stand the dupe loops, so I think I'm gonna :~sign back off this list! :~ :~Denis, would you be kind enough to let me know when you've got the :~bounce messages and dupe messages problem fixed? I get MORE than :~enough mail here w/o getting dupes! :-( :~ :~Thanks... and maybe I'll try Mandrake 7.2 (or whatever the next :~version is! G) when it comes out now that y'all have a :~TOTALLY separate release version under your belts. :-) :~ John :~ -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: MacMillan Mandrake good or evil? on forum
:~Ummm...Dennis, am I missing something here? I've looked a couple of times :~and just can't seem to find "any" Mandrake "discussion :~forum" anywhere! What gives? It gives Denis on vacation .-) http://forum.mandrakesoft.com cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
RE: [expert] I'll be back
:~My company appears to have tied themselves quite closely to MS. The mail :~servers are NT boxes requiring domain logins which to me means no POP and no :~SMTP. I don't know enough about Outlook/Exchange to know what protocol the :~client/server system uses. I do know the system normally acts like an IMAP4 :~server because we can access our email via the web or DL locally to our :~machines via Outlook. IMAP4 is just as good as POP (actually better since you can keep mail on server, though very resource intensive on server). More or less any mail prog. should support it by now I think -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] network administrator
:~I am a Windows NT Network Administrator "MCSE" now i would like to extend my :~skill go for Linux Administration. now the question is that does my :~being an Nt administrator help me in any way with Linux.? :~Also what should i know to be a good Linux Admin ? I heard linux users have :~to :~do a lots of programing too do i have to do that as well ? It helps you in a way knowing to drive a car would help you with.. Tank? airplane? Truck? something. Many concepts are very similar, but gears and stearing weel may look very differently. The most difficult part will be to find out how to find help (man, Howto, online help, etc), because this part is solved much differently with linux. Once this is done comes the part of getting accustumed to a new language and the fact that programs running on linux differ from those running on M$. And there is another big problem: some concepts are simply invalid under linux, while "sacred" under windows, most noticeable beeing the concept of program == GUI, and in the beginning you will certainly be displased to find some things you thought extremely important missing. But all-in-all, beeing a computer expert always helps: it helped me to administer a virtual windows domain under vmware, it will help you with linux. cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
[expert] ANNOUNCE: MacMillan Mandrake good or evil? on forum
Hi Start of the 7.1 sales in USA and europe (last friday) reminded me on discussions we had on mailing lists when our new deal with MacMillan was announced, so I decided to start a discussion on this thema on the "forum". Tell us what yooou think of it now: I'll be there, and Bill Gardner from MacMillan will answer some questions too (i hope), so shoot. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Re: Upgrade?? to LM7.1
:~ xf86 :~ config seems to have a bug as well because it gets to the screen where :~ it asks do you want to look at a list of cards and when I answer y the :~ program exits to the mc screen. :~ :~This happens to me on all my fresh installs of LM 7.1. I hope MDK fixes these :problems, they are mighty! Well, we will take a look at xf86cofig, but why don't you try to configure X using XFDrake? cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
:~True. The Windows installation is typically easier than *any* linux distro, :~even the almighty (and it is, IMHO) Mandrake. Nop. It is not easier, but it works on more hardware. Though I have seen 2 machines where LM would install but Windows would not ;-. :~Consider the fact that Microsoft spends $$ on employees whose sole :~purpose is to understand how the computer disinclined people think. :~Consider the fact that Microsoft founded itself with the purpose of :~producing an OS that *anyone* can install and use on *any* machine (i386 :~based mostly). This is not our real problem: Consider the fact that hardware manufactures write their Windows drivers themselves, then PAY microsoft to test these drivers and become "certified for windows"... On the other hand, this same manufacturers are often reluctant to even publish the specs needed to write linux drivers... You got the picture? :~Linux is for sure on the way however, and Mandrake (IMHO) is really helping :~to push this. The fact is: ca 50% of our efforts are on "hardware support" (kernel-tweaking, recognition, automatic configuration) front, but we are still a small company with very limited resources, and more often than not we are still sailing against the wind Keeping this in mind, our hardware support is asstounding. I know that this does not help the people who could not install on their hardware at home, but every one is invited to help himself: Subscribe to cooker, talk to people, find the reason for your problems and help us solve it. And one last tip: think before buying a hardware. Always ask for hardware which works problemlessly under linux, if needed write to manufacturer before purchasing, and if it does not return it back to shop. This is exactly how windows users would react if they buy a piece of hardware which does not work, so just do the same and all of the sudden your problems become manufacturers problems... have fun ;- Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
:~Legacy devices for the ISA bus won't even fit on my last three :~mobos, and PnP was rightly named "plug N' Pray" by most techs :~I know, IMHO, so I am not very worried about the 3c509B I just :~rid myself of. ISA PnP? Uff. No wonder it does not work properly: Pixel denies the existence of these peskies. :-/ ISA PnP devices == trouble, and while this particular card (well, actually most of them) may be made to work, my advice is to trow them away: One day we may have a good support for winmodems, but I doubt that we will ever see really good (==no problems) support for ISA PnP. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
'll have to re-check this one, thx), and "4" falls into "very unpleasant gaf" category (have you tried "harddrake" after install?), but nothing that can not be easily solved by our "install support" folks. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Convert Win or Be Icons to Linux format?
:~Any suggestions as to what to use? ImageMagick transforms anything to anything .-) cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] removing the 2.2.9 kernel RPMs
:~These RPMs were installed when I installed mdk6.0. Subsequently, :~I've installed 2.2.12 .16 from tarballs. :~ :~Will doing an "rpm -e" on these packages ruin my system by :~erasing the 2.2.16 files? :~ kernel-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-headers-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-doc-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-source-2.2.9-19mdk No. You can safely remove these packages, you do not need them anymore. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Promise66
:~Hi All, :~ :~ Does anybody run Promise66 card (ATA-66) with mandrake 7.1? :~ If so, did you have to push it or it worked out of the box? :~ Many people. See "forum" article on Promise for details. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] work arounds for known bugs
:~http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumlast.php3 :~And, READ the doc that comes with your kernel upgrades especially :~if you choose Reiserfs. Special procedures apply to keep it :~running in a kernel upgrade. You will of course want to upgrade :~to the kernel which fixed the suid bit bug. Folks: save yourself some troubles and NEVER upgrade a kernel. INSTALL a new kernel withouth removing the old one, then test the new one, then remove the old one... cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01
:~XFree86 4.01 just came out. :~ :~How long will it take for MDK 7.1 RPMs to be made? I need 'em since :~XFree86 4 didn't install like I specifically asked it to when installing :~MDK 7.1. Look in cooker, I reckon these RPM-s are already there. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] root file/dir permission screwup
:~ *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* :~ ^ :~ lines deleted :~ :~ :~Don't know if it is because of thr "trial version" but this is already :~the THIRD time that we see this message on the list. Is there a "loop" :~somewhere ??? Someone uses a trial version of a brain-dead software which loves spamming... He'll get a lot of bounces in the future i am afraid ;- cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] root file/dir permission screwup
:~With a listing of /usr from someone, I was able to correct the :~ones that need to be executable. :~ :~Could someone please send a permission list of /var and /dev :~so I can correct the immediate 'postfix' problem. Oh gee... Just force re-installing of all the packages you have on the system. (save /etc first, then return it back to its place) rpm is your friend... cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake for PPC
:~Saw a reference on one of the Mac sites to the possibility of an upcoming :~release of Mandrake for the PPC. :~ :~Any truth to the rumor? If so, any idea of when a beta might be available? Rumors are right: ML is running on an imac and on an iBook in Paris office. I do not know when will we be ready for a public beta, sorry. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
:~Second, knowing the long production schedules of magazines and of
:~mass-producing CD's I was curious to know if theses schedules were the
:~driving force behind the abrupt cessation of the beta testing and the
:~subsequent release of 7.1 in early July.
No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and
there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3
public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the
third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good
product (and it is).
Of coarse, as soon as we announced a "final" version, bug reports started
pooring in again, but this is unfortunately "normal". Some of
these bugs are really unpleasant, for instance:
* / partition must be 8GB (drakX bug)
* problems with some SCSI cards (but better overal SCSI support)
* Upgrade times 2-3 h, (and in extreme cases +=12h!) :-\
* several security updates even before we were able to ship CD-s :-((
but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think
that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous
Mandrake release:
- hardware support has improved immensly (for instance UDMA66 USB
support)
- upgrade actually works quite nicely now (yes, it is slow)
- new menu system is much friendlier than the old one.
- new gnome
- many many small improvements everywhere in the system, which you may not
even notice in the beginning. Three quick examples: "supermount"
enable/disable script is much robuster in 7.1, Xsession is ssh-avare, and
"gimp" now accepts Xscanimage plugin.
In addition: there is no speciall connection between Mandrake and "Maximum
linux" i know of, and even if there were one I would not accept the idea
of stopping a beta testing period because a magazine wants to press the
CD-s. Neither would Jerome nor Warly (3 musketiers of QA team), and Jean
Loup would probably sooner jump from the bridge than allow such nonsense.
Fact is: Beta testing period was long compared to life-span of the
product, we all worked like mad, and at the end we were half-dead but
happy with 7.1. Yes sure, there are still bugs left, but there
are limits to what can do.
yours
Denis
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[expert] ANNOUNCE: voting for a forums name
Hi Gael thinks that forum.mandrakesoft.com name should be replaced by a shorter one - easier to remember. You can vote for the one which you find best/easiest to remember/nicest on the "forum": http://forum.mandrakesoft.com thx Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] P Ultra66 DMA?
:~Any help or insight into this would be greatly :~appreciated as this RAID's fuctionality is severly :~limited by the slow bus. look on forum.mandrakesoft.com, there was recently a discussion about Promise UDMA there. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] where is the Mandrake 7.0 kernel update?!?!?!
:~Do you mean even if and when we receive our "new" Mandrake 7.1 :~versions in the mail, we will have to upgrade the kernel??? :~vern Jup. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] starting X for remote access only
:~so the question, how can i start the X-server (or client, how you :~like it ;) at the router in serve-mode only? check /etc/X11/xdm dir. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Copy HD to HD
:~Is there any command to copy HD to HD ,like command line "diskcopy" under DOS yes. :~,my friend tech me :~dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024k,but must run it under single mode. :~anyone tell or me? or another good command to use?thanks So your frien tech (what does that mean?) you "dd", and you are not happy? dd can do just about anything whene it comes to copiing, so if you really want to mirror HD, dd is the way to go. If you are scared of dd, and want to copy all data from one partition to another using a cute user interface, I would recoment "mc". cu Denis -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] messages in triplicate (fwd)
:~Awww...shucks, Denis I'm just trying to help. I :~sometimes feel guilty for bugging you about list-related :~problems so much, but... :-) At least you know how to file a bug report. Doing a diff is much easier when one actually has the files .-) :~Being a Tech Support professional I can sympathize :~sometimes with how frustrating it can be to run this list! Ah, that is why you know how to file a report! cu D -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] kernel compile - rpm VC tar.gz
:~I am a relatively experienced linux user, who is used to compiling custom :~kernels using tarballs from ftp.kernal.xx.org. I have installed Mandrake 7.0 to :~have a look and would now like to customize the kernel. The bottom line is, I :~would prefer to go via the tarball route rather than rpm's, but I'd like to :~know a little more about Mandrake before deciding. :~ :~I gather from the rpm names (kernel-2.2.16-4mdk.src.rpm and :~kernel-linus-2.2.16-2mdk.src.rpm) that there is some customization done by :~Mandrake to the pristine kernel sources. How much, and do any experienced users A lot :~out there have a feel for how *well* ? Also, there is a guide on mandrake.org hee... Like, you can run a lot of hardware which does not work with pristine kernel? supermount... And kernel-secure is a story of its own. Anyway, you can choose, so take what suits you the best :-) cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] where is the Mandrake 7.0 kernel update?!?!?!
:~Thanks for the tips everyone... :~ :~It just seems rather lame (and like a certain other company *cough*) to be :~forced to upgrade to something from a newer version of the OS because of :~preexisting security issues. :) If you used the MandrakeUpdate utility as Sorry, but kernel upgrade for all Mandrake releases is on its way out. If you want, you can pick it out from cooker, or wait for oficial release. OK, we should have posted at least "kernel-linus" as soon as we got a word about all these problems, but no one thought it will take THAT long to get all the patches working with the new kernel. :-( :~intended and didn't really have time to follow the news, it would have :~been quite easy to miss these large security holes, which makes :~MandrakeUpdate rather worthless. Well, yes and no. You would not have apreciated a kernel upgrade which breaks your system either, right? We had to test this first, and some problems were detected, so we had to make a new version, test it again... :~ :~Oh well... At least I've got a copy of mandrake 7.1 coming in the mail... Kind of nice, but you will still have to upgrade the kernel :-( cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] $5.50 for MDK 7.1 2-CD set (GPL version)
:~As a convenience to this list, I will burn MDK 7.1 onto two CD's at a cost :~of $5.50 for my time, my CD-R media, and shipping costs. :~ The more the merrier. :~If interested, just send me an E-mail requesting my mailing address. :~ :~I'm not trying to make a fortune or get rich. It seems like a waste to :~download the iso images and just burn the 2-CD set for myself. Well, you are free to do it - and do not worry about getting rich this way: cheapbytes do it too, so you will never really be able to sell many of these... chears Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] 7.1 install Caveats
:~During the install process, LM7.1 only picked up one of my ethernet :~cards (PCI D-link DFE-1530TX 10/100) which it recognized as a "Realtek :~8139 10/100 (rt18139)" (I assume that's ok). My regular ISA 3c509 card :~was not recognized, why ? Because Pixel detests ISA. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] 7.1 menus
:~On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: :~ Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: :~ :~ It's based on fvwm - you'll have to edit the menu files there I believe. :~ :~ wrong !! see /usr/doc/menu-*/menu.txt for documentation :~ :~ :~OK, I worked out that if I make an entry in /usr/lib/menu the application will :~show up on the menus. The only problem is that it does not seem to work when :~the app was installed from something other than an rpm (a tarball for :~instance). Does the update-menus package require that the menu entry be in the :~rpm database? Is there a way around this problem? 1) use "local" prefix for non-rpm packages. ?package(local-packagename) 2) use /etc/menu, not /usr/lib/menu, otherwise some package may overwrite your entries in the future. cu Deno -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] 7.1 -- bug: floppy boot image FTP downloading
:~I thought I installed 7.1 on my laptop fine...but the bootup hangs at :~pcmcia module. I don't know if it is related. I installed once over :~http, and once over ftp. :~ :~-davidu Which pcmcia controler? (and which laptop, pcmcia cards) -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
[expert] ANNOUNCE: new topics @ http://linuxpole.com/
Below are new topics on "linuxpole.com" (our experimental public forum): - easy upgrade from cooker - How to install all the packages? - Tutorials I have also added a "Poll" on GUI - i kind of like these useless peskies .-) cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: [expert] Touchscreen drivers for mandrake.
:~Does anyone have a touchscreen driver for mandrake linux or know where i :~could find one? it would really be appreciated. thank you. It comes with your system... man XF86Config: Elographics (Elographics touchscreen) MicrotouchFinger (Microtouch touchscreen operated with finger) MicrotouchStylus (Microtouch touchscreen operated with stylus) cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] 7.1 zip supermount problems
This is definitively a bug. Chmouel is building a new kernel (security update), try it when it gets out - i hope he got supermount with atapi ZIP-s right in that one. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] linuxpole
:~I went there for the first time since announce where I had :~submitted (I thought) a comment. It doesn't seem to be in the :~list. Was there a length limit or do I say "my bad"? If you are refering to this: http://linuxpole.com/article.php3?sid=2611103219 you did not submit it as a coment, but as a new topic. New topics do not automatically apear on slash forum, I have to agree with them first .-) cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
RE: [expert] Upgrade to 7.1 breaks my PCI modem.
:~Ok, but should Mandrake be able to autodetect a PCI :~modem? As I said, I have never encountered a linux :~distribution that was able to autodetect it. It shows :~up fine if I do an 'lspci'. send the output of "lspcidrake" cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] where is the Mandrake 7.0 kernel update?!?!?!
:~After a rather large list of alarming security flaws discovered in 2.2.15 :~(and are apparently in older kernels like 2.2.14) I think a security :~update for Mandrake 7.0 is very important. Chmouel had a lot of troubles with patching the 2.2.16 kernel, that is why it is so much delayed. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
[expert] ANNOUNCE: Monday @ http://linuxpole.com
Monday topics at http://linuxpole.com - - Blind Mandrake-Linux? (Bambi): what do we need to make sight-impaired people feel at home? - Simple server (Laurent Saint-Michel): would you buy a package which does only a few server tasks - but does them really good, and install, config maintainance are "very easy"? WDYT? Say it at linuxpole! cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] .config files for the kernels in the kernel*mdk.*.rpm files?
Short answer: [denis@kenobi /]$ rpm -qd kernel /usr/doc/kernel-2.2.15/kernel-2.2.15-2mdk-i586.config /usr/doc/kernel-2.2.15/kernel-2.2.15-4mdk-i586.config cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
[expert] ANNOUNCE: Sunday topics on http://linuxpole.com (fwd)
Hi, folks - Sunday lecture at "http://linuxpole.com": - * Newbie Light - What do you think of Civilemes proposal? * WHY THE HECK DO WE WANT WIN MODEMS ANYWAY? (now, if this does not start flame wars...) And if you missed my saturdays post: * Security announcements and timeliness (by Steve Fox) * Menu system (by Damien) Join the discussion. And if you have a topic to add, click on "add story" at the bottom of the page. cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
[expert] japanese input method on 7.1 (fwd)
-- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The only thing I see here is two things: (Oskuro at /.) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 14:15:31 -0700 From: Bart Locanthi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: japanese input method on 7.1 Booting from my fresh 7.1 CD for the first time, I was pleased/surprised to see a Japanese installation. Woaa! So I snagged a Japanese-speaking friend and went through the install, and it all seems to work. But, I have yet to find a way of inputting Japanese. Usually there's some sort of phonetic Kana thing that turns sounds into ideograms. I assume there's something like that in MDK7.1, but I don't know where to look. Any suggestions?
Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round of discussions)
:~ :~We've got the Northpole, the Southpole, now we have the :~Linuxpole. :~As the former two always were a picture of extremly different :~points of view, Linuxpole may be the equivalent of the :~outstanding results which will emerge from the discussion of :~different ideas. Under assumption that you start using it ;- Else it will die and be forgotten after a week or two. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The only thing I see here is two things: (Oskuro at /.)
[expert] curent topics @ http://linuxpole.com/
Below are currently discussed toppics on "linuxpole.com" (our experimental public forum): Policy: Guns versus Butter Install: Automated Install Install: Upgrade - what should it do? Doc: What makes a documentation "good" or bad? More to come... cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
[expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round of discussions)
Hi, folks new forum --- You all know the limitations of our present comunication medium (e-mail list), right? Like delays, no scoring, no treads... Well, we are trying to introduce a slashdot-based discussion forum, and for now we will concentrate on "future of the distribution". http://www.linuxpole.com second round of discussions -- Unlike the question I asked you two weeks ago (just tell as everything you can think of), now we have to concentrate ourselves to already existing topics - I have already posted one (infamous "UPGRADE" question), other will follow. By the way, a lot of your sugestions were found "good" and "simple to implement" - there will be no big discussion on these. (I hope I will be able to send you a summary of such topics next week.) Some other requests were found "too dificult", so we cannot do anything about them now. Howeven, some questions were very interesting, and caused big debates on our internal lists, but we were unable to come to conclusion. These questions will be posted on our new web-forum - maybe you can help us find right answers. cu Denis -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: [expert] KDE theme manager
:~I searchd the net, for known bugs, on mandrake and kde. But i didn't find any. :~Do you or Dennis, know where to look? Sure - in bugzilla! ;- It should be online for everyone soon - and I hope "soon" really means "soon" now, cause I have been waiting for it last 3 months. (but now we actually have the new machine...) cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[expert] DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)
What do you expect from upgrade? cu Denis -- One topic from a dark side .-) Upgrading a Linux-Mandrake system has been our nightmare for quite some time. François has worked a lot on this for 7.1, and at the end I was actually able to upgrade from RH 6.0 system, and end up with a fully functional Mandrake 7.1 system. Rpm database got quite "poluted", and we have to do some dirty hacks for Qt, but at least one gets a working system, which is a good start. Big question is: What should an upgrade actually do? Below are some answers I could think of: 1) CONSERVATIVE: just freshen those packages which can be freshened and leave the rest of the system as it is 2) FORCED: Force instalation of a new "core" system, even if this means downgroading, or breaks some functionality of the already installed system, then go on with freshening the rest of the packages. 3) REPAIR: Like conservative, but try to repair existing packages too, If we find out that some of the files are missing, or that someone fooled with binaries, reinstall the package (even if it means downgrading!) 4) FORCED REPAIR: like 3, but make sure that "core" system is installed in the end, like in 2 5) VANDAL: force install of the core, and upgrade of those packages we provide. The rest can go to hell. ;- 6) SUPER-VANDAL: like 5, but i make sure that all packages older than one year are removed from the system. (ups, I just found another variable for sorting packages!) ... All of the above mentioned can (must) also be combined with possibility to add new non-core packages during upgrade, and maybe even to remove some of the currently installed packages in "custom" and "expert" mode. I am quite sure there are other ways to do upgrade, and that opinions on "what is the best upgrade" will be wildly different. So, what do you think? cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] Open Motif
OpenMotiv will be included, but not in 7.1 - it came too late. :~ Open Motif has been available for some time already, but :~strangely there's no mention/discussion about it in the list or web :~site. :~ :~ Will any OpenMotif rpm package be available for the next :~Mandrake? Will dynamically linked Netscape be used by default from :~now on? Will more Motif applications be included henceforth? -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] A modest security idea for new distribution
:~Hi, :~ :~I've been reading all the security info on Outlook virii recently, :~installing procmail traps for my users, and discussing with friends the :~possibility of such threats appearing on Linux (and unices in general). :~While the probability of somebody writing an e-mail client that would :~lauch executables with a single click is (hopefully) a remote one, and :~it really takes some effort and a lot of stupidity to use '/bin/sh' as :~your Netscape viewer for 'application/x-sh', it seems certain that at :~some time in the future Linux will be the target of virus attacks of :~sorts. Now, I think one could try (apart from educating users and :~avoiding risky 'features' in programs) to help users make their valuable :~data more secure by using ext2 file attributes and Linux access rights. :~What I mean is a smallish graphic utility somewhere on the Mandrake :~desktop (it would be great if someone added this to graphic filemanagers :~too) that would let the user to, say, 'lock/seal/secure this :~directory/file' by removing write access (dirs) and executing 'chattr :~+i' (files) through a grpahic 'su' wrapper (ksu/gsu). In a graphic :~manager, such directories/files could be marked in a special way. :~ :~Access rights prevent the hypothetical virus from destroying the whole :~system, but what counts most for a user is his own data, after all. A :~tool like above (or a filemanager feature) would IMVHO go a way towards :~avoiding data loss catastrophies, not only virii-related - a mistyped :~'rm -f' would also be less dangerous that way. All it would take would :~be for the user to 'lock' those directories they can't afford to lose. :~ :~What do you think? Would not help you much. What WOULD help is having all programs started from mail programs chrooted to somewhere where they cannot do any damage. my 2c Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] old version help
:~This might not be the place but I am in a real bad hurt for some help. :~ :~I am trying to compile network adapter card drivers under Mandrake 6.1 running :~2.2.13-22smp kernel :~ :~and none of them will compile with smp kernel. I have read that there is a :~problem with the src code in mandrake 6.1.. So what can I do?? Download a new kernel? -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] Changing the location of a MySQL db?
:~Is it possible to change the location of a MySQL DB? I have one that has :~eaten most of my space on /dev/sda5 my /var. How can I change the location :~of a db on /var/lib/mysql and have MySQL create new other databases in :~another location? Thanks in advance, :~ :~Cecil [short] take the directory with database and move it to some other partition. Then mount this other partition to the place where these data used to be, and DB will not even notice that anything has changed. And stop thinking in windows terms .-) cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] 6.1 upgrade
:~Are there any issuses in upgrading a mandrake 6.1 to mandrake 7 or should I :~wait for the 7.1? wait. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] A modest security idea for new distribution
:~Could you expand on this "chrooted" operation, or at least tell me
:~where I can RTFM ??
:~vern
Sorry, I thought everyone knows this...
[root@localhost denis]# rpm -qf `which chroot `
sh-utils-2.0-6mdk
man page:
CHROOT(1) FSF CHROOT(1)
NAME
chroot - run command or interactive shell with special
root directory
...
SEE ALSO
The full documentation for chroot is maintained as a Tex
info manual. If the info and chroot programs are properly
installed at your site, the command
info chroot
should give you access to the complete manual.
info:
File: sh-utils.info, Node: chroot invocation, Next: env invocation,
Up: Modi\
fied command invocation
`chroot': Run a command with a different root directory
===
`chroot' runs a command with a specified root directory. On many
systems, only the super-user can do this. Synopses:
chroot NEWROOT [COMMAND [ARGS]...]
chroot OPTION
Ordinarily, filenames are looked up starting at the root of the
directory structure, i.e., `/'. `chroot' changes the root to the
directory NEWROOT (which must exist) and then runs COMMAND with
optional ARGS. If COMMAND is not specified, the default is the value
of the `SHELL' environment variable or `/bin/sh' if not set, invoked
with the `-i' option.
The only options are `--help' and `--version'. *Note Common
options::.
etc. In my opinion, chroot may be a nice way to fool any future viruses or
trojans. Drawback is that you actually have to install whatever is needed
to read your attachements below this directory, which means that you need
a lot of place for it - it is like having a (subset of) distribution
installed twice. On the other hand, whatever a virus/trojan does it will
do to this "second" system, where it does bother you because it can be
easily detected and repaired, and does not interfere with working of the
system!
If "place" on HD is not a problem, this is absolutely the best way to deal
with executing mail attachements.
cu
Denis
:~
:~Denis HAVLIK wrote:
:~
:~ Would not help you much. What WOULD help is having all programs started
:~ from mail programs chrooted to somewhere where they cannot do any damage.
:~
:~ my 2c
:~
:~ Denis
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Re: [expert] Helix Gnome
:~Just wondering whether anyone has heard of Helix Gnome and whether this is :~the same as stock standard Gnome that comes with most distro's. Does it :~upgrade or change anything that it shouldn't and is it still usable with :~other Gnome software? :~ Helix gnome is included with 7.1 -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] future distro ideas
:~I am not sure what you are referring to here. :~We had a power outage and I was all worried because :~everyone talks about what happens when you don't :~cleanly boot out of Linux, but it came back up fine. :~It forces a 'scan' of the Linux partitions, but they come :~back 'passed'. Once in a while it can happen that you have to run fsck manually and answer "yes" to all its question. It can happen that you loose a file or two in a proces - parts of the files end-up in /lost-and-found dir. The reason for this is always the same: no journaling system, therefore if system crashes in the middle of writing a file, we have a problem. Same problem exists on vfat, I do not know about NTFS. This could lead to problems, If you have been editing /etc/fstab at the moment of crash, but usually it is just a minor nuisance. During last 6 years, I have managed a small cluster of linux machines at university of Vienna. These machines were never shut down unless we got power problems. In this time, our building was hit by a lightning twice, which caused total electricity loss, and burn-up of some network cards. During last 2 years, there were intensive renovation works in the building, and workers have repeteately cut of power cables (network cables too, including the backbone once). All-in-all, a rather hard working enviroment, and in all this time I actually saw that few files were lost only once - did rpm -Va, and reinstalled the package. :~We sometimes lose power here with electrical storms. :~ :~What situation does it have to be for it not to come back? Good question. Maybe he thought "does not automatically come back again, which is something you will see every time fsck finds a problem which COULD lead to loss of some data, and refuses to work non-interactively. Btw: with onset of new yournaling filesystems (ReiserFS, ext3), this will soon be a non-issue anyway. :~ As much as I dislike Windows, I can always count on Windows :~ coming back from this kind of situation. It will complain, run :~ scandisk, and come back up. You might have some application :~ files corrupted, but at least the OS will run. -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] upgrading 6.0
:~hallo expert! :~ :~i plan to upgrade my mandrake 6.0 to 7.1. i made the usual :~modifications to my existing system (dns, apache, senmail, samba etc.) :~is the upgrade/installation-procedure aware of my changes and respects :~it or should i backup my changed installation files and after a clean :~install reapply them... ? Always backup /etc! Upgrade should work, fresh install is much faster. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] A better kpanel applet
:~ Is Helix Gnome included with Mandrake 7.0? If not, where can I find it, and is :~ it hard to setup? It is included with 7.1 cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Improve SANE integration with GIMP.
:~I use SANE with GIMP. :~But the GIMP does not have an "acquire" option in the menu :~which should fire up SANE for scans to directly go to GIMP! :~ It does. This was just a bug in our gimp package shipped with 7.0, and solved long-time-ago in cooker. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Package addition -- Exim ??
:~I it a possiblity that Exim will be added into the distro :~at any time in the near future? Maybe. If it is Open-source and if I ever find out what it is. :~How does it compare wiht postfix in terms of futures and performance? yet another would-be sendmail replacement? cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] future distro ideas
ReiserFS is fully supported in 7.1, though we still default to ext2. If you need/want reiserFS, just change the filesystem type during install, that is all. ReiserFS is supposedly performing very well, although it is still tagged as "beta". Usual disclaimers: if ReiserFS sets your house on fire or runs away with your wife - well, it is GPL licence so you can only hate us. .-) cu Denis :~A good journaling filesystem, like ReiserFS or some of the others that are :~being ported to Linux (IBM's JFS, SGI XFS, etc) will solve most of these :~problems. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Win Apps
:~Are there any plans to include a windows emulator with Mandrake .. VMware or :~some other besides WINE ? I have 3 specialized apps that will never be :~ported.. they are Mortgage and finance stuff for my wife We have employed the author of free VMware-like package, but it will take a long time until this product is realy finished. In the meantime I am afraid it is either wine or VMware. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Win Apps
:~Given that VMWare is a commercial productI suppose they could ship :~a time-limited demo version. But it is only $99 for personal and/or :~educational use. Well worth it IMHO. We do: in Power Pack. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION (fwd)
:~ I'd love to try out beta releases, but there's no way I'll be able to :~ download 600M of data reliably, so maybe :~ you want to have some sort of biweekly/monthly CD distribution for people to :~ try out. :~ :~ :~I currently offer this service already. Fine with us .-) And you are not the only one, there is a list of other folk who do it here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 cheers Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
[expert] [discuss] config progs should work both in X and console mode
:~Is it possible to think about an install program that works just the same (not :~two different versions!) in text AND graphic mode (with fb for example)? :~This could be an aswer to which do not do the same work twice, one for text :~mode and one for graphic mode. :~Isn'it a "brilliant" (c) idea? Yes, this is definitively a briliant idea if you ask me. You can count on me backing up idea of having all of our config-programs working in both X and console mode (like linuxconf and emacs do), but i can already say that this it is going to be very difficult to implement. I would actually like to go even further: exactly the same prog. which is used to configure "things" on a working system should be also used by install prog, and all of these configuration tools should work either under X or in console mode. cu Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
[expert] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION (fwd)
(I hope you do not get this twice on expert list)
-
Hi, folks!
What follows is probably a single most important letter I ever posted on
these mailing lists, so please read it very carefully!
[ANNOUNCEMENT]
We (Mandrakesoft) are starting internal discussions about future of
our distributions NOW. We want you to take part in the process of
improving our next distro.
- NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell
us what you hate, tell us what you dream of!
- NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start
thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here.
Starting NOW, I am going to stop sleeping, eating, or doing any other job
which would interfere with currently most important task: Making sure we
make the best decisions based on whatever input we can get.
[RULES]
* Basically everything you can think of is open for discussion, except
question of including non-free software in the core of our distro, which
is absolute NO-NO.
* Listen to what other people have to say. Try keeping the signal/noise
ratio as high as possible.
* One topic per e-mail and informative subject line help us a lot. ("125
Great ideas!!!" is a very bad subject line.)
* Please, try to avoid any kind of flaming on the list for the next 10
days.
* Finaly, If you have time and skills to pick up ideas from long
discussion threads and write a good summary, please do it, it will help us
a lot.
[TOPICS]
Topics we are particularly interested in at this moment include:
1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the
future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things
need polishing...
2) install:Which features of our current installation
program (DrakX) do you like, which features are you missing, what is not
clear enough? The same question goes for post-install configuration
tools.
3) packages: which packages to add, what to remove from the distro,
which subset of packages is really nessesary for a minimal install,
and which packages are "just add-ons"?
4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or
improve in case we are already developing them? Many great
programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know
which important linux tools you still miss, in order to
concentrate on them in the future.
5) system policy: We want to make our system "logical" by following the
Linux Standards, and being consistent in the way
"things" (services, settings) are implemented. Tell us where
we need to improve.
6) security policy: Closely related to point "6". You know that we care a
lot about security, don't you? Well, the problem is choosing right
security settings for various situations.
(If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a
discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly)
I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing
lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the
"cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take
part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in
(and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting).
At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a
resume of what has been decided and share it with you.
yours
Denis Havlik
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[newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
Hi, folks!
What follows is probably a single most important letter I ever posted on
these mailing lists, so please read it very carefully!
[ANNOUNCEMENT]
We (Mandrakesoft) are starting internal discussions about future of
our distributions NOW. We want you to take part in the process of
improving our next distro.
- NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell
us what you hate, tell us what you dream of!
- NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start
thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here.
Starting NOW, I am going to stop sleeping, eating, or doing any other job
which would interfere with currently most important task: Making sure we
make the best decisions based on whatever input we can get.
[RULES]
* Basically everything you can think of is open for discussion, except
question of including non-free software in the core of our distro, which
is absolute NO-NO.
* Listen to what other people have to say. Try keeping the signal/noise
ratio as high as possible.
* One topic per e-mail and informative subject line help us a lot. ("125
Great ideas!!!" is a very bad subject line.)
* Please, try to avoid any kind of flaming on the list for the next 10
days.
* Finaly, If you have time and skills to pick up ideas from long
discussion threads and write a good summary, please do it, it will help us
a lot.
[TOPICS]
Topics we are particularly interested in at this moment include:
1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the
future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things
need polishing...
2) install:Which features of our current installation
program (DrakX) do you like, which features are you missing, what is not
clear enough? The same question goes for post-install configuration
tools.
3) packages: which packages to add, what to remove from the distro,
which subset of packages is really nessesary for a minimal install,
and which packages are "just add-ons"?
4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or
improve in case we are already developing them? Many great
programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know
which important linux tools you still miss, in order to
concentrate on them in the future.
5) system policy: We want to make our system "logical" by following the
Linux Standards, and being consistent in the way
"things" (services, settings) are implemented. Tell us where
we need to improve.
6) security policy: Closely related to point "6". You know that we care a
lot about security, don't you? Well, the problem is choosing right
security settings for various situations.
(If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a
discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly)
I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing
lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the
"cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take
part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in
(and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting).
At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a
resume of what has been decided and share it with you.
yours
Denis Havlik
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Re: [expert] Installing OpenSSH, Zlib, and OpenSSL
:~nifty, :~does this has any implications for VNC? AFAIK, Every program you start from your X-session will still be a doughter process of ssh-agent. terminals, additional X-sessions... However, AFAIK ssh|scp|slogin are the only programs which make use of the RSA private/public key authentication found in ~/.ssh dir. If you want a secure conection with VCN, you will have to tunnel it trough a secure channel as described here: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/sshwin.html By the way, ssh-tunneling is a great tool: basically it can crypt ANY kind of communication bgetween two machines, withouth changing a thing in a program used to comunicate! cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] My complaints about MDK 7.0
:~This is constructive criticism for MDK7.0 Too late, sorry. Shop is closed, we only accept cryticizm on 7.1 now .-) :~I absolutely adore MDK6.1 (the best!) :~#1 Install TAKES TOO LONG! :~#2 Install is TOO BIG! Well, in "recomended" (now called Authomated) mode installer just tries to make you happy by putting as much as your HD can take to HD. If there is no place on HD, packages are dropped from install based on how good|important we think them to be. For more controle over install, use "customized". :~#3 Install lost the customizability of old redhat. Absolutely not. :~#4 cacheing DNS files not created by install: /var/named :~missing. hm. Caching DNS config is in caching-nameserver-6.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm :~#5 No text install? Yes text install ;- :~#6 Should Let user choose between Postfix and Sendmail. should: rpm -e postfix; urpmi sendmail It is not fancy, graphical, or "during install", but it looks simple enough to me. And I am not a friend of postfix either. cu Denis -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: Re: [expert] My complaints about MDK 7.0
:~Don't get me wrong, :~I LOVE Mandrake! This is exactly how I understood your message. The point is - 7.0 is too old to discuss its features anymore. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] My complaints about MDK 7.0
Which features did you miss in graphical "expert" install? Especially in 7.1? :~ #1 Install TAKES TOO LONG! :~ #2 Install is TOO BIG! :~ #3 Install lost the customizability of old redhat. :~Did you try "text" install and select "custom"? If not, :~then you have nothing to bitch about. Yes, it would be NICE :~to have a GUI custom install, but even RedHat's GUI won't :~let you do a truly custom install. I know. I just installed :~RedHat 6.2 here at work and to get a custom install I had :~to select "text expert." Not only that, but it so darned :~sluggish on the GUI install. :~ John :~ -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] 37 bottles of asprin later, he decided to ask for help.
Could I have your /etc/fstab file, please. and "ls -l /" output would be fine too. cu Denis On Wed, 17 May 2000, Ivan Trail wrote: :~Whne trying to execute a Wine application This is what I get: :~Could not stat /mnt/fd0, ignoring drive A: Could not stat /c, ignoring driveC: :~Could not stat /cdrom, ignoring drive D: Warning: could not find wine.conf :~[Drive x] entry for current working directory /home/Ivan; starting in windows :~directory. Invalid path 'c:\windows' for windows directory Perhaps you have not :~properly edited or created your Wine configuration file. This is either :~/etc/wine/wine.conf or $HOME/.winerc or it is determined by the -config :~option or from the WINE_INI environment variable. Wine has used :~/etc/wine/wine.conf as configuration file. :~ :~I have also attached the wine.conf file. If any one can help me out and get me :~running with wine, I would deeply appreciate it. Please use "bonehead" :~language as I am still struggling through all the command line stuff, although :~I am past the "Help I can't turn my computer on!" stage. :~ :~Many thanks. :~ :~Ivan Trail. -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
[expert] 2940 ADAPTEC SCSI
:~Just as an example, yesterday I went to Best Buy and purchased :~SuSE 6.4. I had Mandrake 6.1 running fine, with a 2940 Adaptec :~controller..., attached to that via the internal cable is a This controler caused us a lot of problems in 7.0. If you have it, just run directly for 7.1 beta3 (should be on tucows soon). Not beta2, that is old and has some nasty bugs! Or simply wait for a while and get the new 7.1 when it is out - do not bother with 7.0 cu Denis
Re: [expert] ATA/66 Mandrake Beta 2
Beta2 has several nasty errors. One of them is ATA/66 problem, another is no menu entries... Wait for beta3 ISO - it should be on tucows very soon. cu Denis On Sun, 21 May 2000, Dan Bélisle wrote: :~Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:41:52 PDT :~From: Dan Bélisle [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Subject: [expert] ATA/66 Mandrake Beta 2 :~ :~Bonjour !! :~ :~J'essaie d'installer la Beta 2 sur ma machine, malheureusement il ne :~reconnait pas mon disque dur qui est en ATA/66. La Beta2 n'est pas suppose :~reconnaitre le ATA/66 c'est inscrit sur le site ?? :~ :~Je suppose que je doit passer des parametre lors du boot (boot par le :~cd-rom). Quels sont ses parametres ? :~ :~Merci ! :~ :~Danny. :~ :~Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
RE: [expert] the czech republic has mail problems
Just to make it clear: I am aware of the problem, that is - I WAS avare of the problem, but I did not want to remove the guy from the list imediately (ok, maybe i was wrong). Instead, I have contacted him and told him to solve the problem. Since, I have not seen any more bounces from czech rep. yesterday or today, I thought this was OK now. If it still causes trouble, send me an e-mail (privatly, not to the list!). Removing the guy from the list is not a problem - I just hate to do it, that is all. cu Denis :~Hello, :~ I hope, I fixed it today... It is still broken??? :~Let me know... :~ Michal :~ :~On Mon, 22 May 2000, Eric Peters wrote: :~ :~ I have tried contacting those guys to take care of the problem to no avail. :~ The problem is the mandrake list is sending mail to :~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The user either dose not exist or they do not know :~ how to setup relaying. :~ :~ The list admin should remove that e-mail address from the list. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] mylex
:~i don't know if these theme isn't a little bit outdated, but i have a problem :~with installation Mandrake 7.0-2 on a box with mylex dac960pdu controller. :~the install program has found mylex but insmod of DAC960.o module :~failed, because it cannot find the driver. :~on the same box i later installed RedHat 6.1 and that work perfectly. :~could you give me an advice ? Try 7.1 beta3. dac960pdu controller works well with kernel in 7.0, but obviously install prog lost a touch with the modul somewhere on the way. Just take 7.1 beta3. NOT beta2! cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Installing OpenSSH, Zlib, and OpenSSL
Since you mentioned it: in 7.1, we have a little goody for ssh users (me for instance). In case "ssh" is found, and ~/.ssh/identity file exists, your X-session is started as doughter of ssh-agent. cheers Denis :~Mandrake does have ready-made RPMS for OpenSSH, Zlib, and OpenSSL. :~ :~I think that you're best bet for isntalling all of those and making them :~easy to maintain would be to use the RPMS (unless you want to compile :~so you always have thee latest and greatest). :~ :~There is a crypto link off of http://www.linux-mandrake.com -- check it :~out! -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] HDPARM at boot
:~Hmm, shouldn't there be a -k in the list of options? My understanding :~of hdparm is that, without the -k, the settings may not stick. I know :~on my system, I get the "Starting Hard Drive optimisations for /dev/hda" :~(and hdb) messages at boottime, but if I run hdparm to check the :~settings later, they're not set. I've got relatively new drives, and :~at LEAST the 32-bit options should stick. Have you tried the settings manually? What happens? I do not think HD-s should be reseted after execution of this script. Strange. D :~ :~On 22 May, Denis HAVLIK wrote: :~ On Mon, 22 May 2000, Colin L. Whipple wrote: :~ :~ :~It would also be nice to have a little more info about what the "hard disk :~ :~optimizations" means. Just how likely is it that problems will result from :~ :~checking that box? What is being optimized? :~ :~ Instead of giving you a fish, I'll try to learn you fishing .-) :~ :~ see "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime" file: :~ :~ :~ if [ -x /sbin/hdparm ];then :~ LIST_HD=$(grep '^hd.:' /var/log/dmesg|\ :~ grep -ivE '(CD.*ROM|DVD.*ROM|FLOPPY|TAPE|STATUS)'|cut :~ -d: -f1|sort|u :~ niq) :~ :~ if grep -i nohdparm /proc/cmdline /dev/null ; then :~ action "Hard Drive optimisations disabled" \ :~ echo "" :~ else :~ for i in $LIST_HD;do :~ action "Starting Hard Drive optimisations for $i" \ :~ hdparm -q -c1 -q -A1 -q -m16 -q -d1 /dev/$i :~ done :~ fi :~ fi :~ :~ :~--- :~Illigitmi non carborundum :~http://andysocial.com :~ -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Welcome to new expert list
:~I don't know if deleting two work messages is a good idea, but I think :~filtering swear words in the subject line is great! Maybe you could also :~post a little note that MUG mail should not be submitted in a foreign :~language? Ibi With all respect, I will not filter any words, unless i get absolutely forced to do it. For now, I only filter "unsubscribe", and I want to keep it this way. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Welcome to new expert list
:~Oh, and St. Denis is the patron saint of France. :-) Well, that fits well with me beeing a patron of the list, right? cheers Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Re: Welcome to new expert list : 7.1
:~Can you let us in on what's new with 7.1? Sure: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hydrobeta.php3 cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] Re: Welcome to new expert list : 7.1
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Colin L. Whipple wrote: :~It would also be nice to have a little more info about what the "hard disk :~optimizations" means. Just how likely is it that problems will result from :~checking that box? What is being optimized? Instead of giving you a fish, I'll try to learn you fishing .-) see "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime" file: if [ -x /sbin/hdparm ];then LIST_HD=$(grep '^hd.:' /var/log/dmesg|\ grep -ivE '(CD.*ROM|DVD.*ROM|FLOPPY|TAPE|STATUS)'|cut -d: -f1|sort|u niq) if grep -i nohdparm /proc/cmdline /dev/null ; then action "Hard Drive optimisations disabled" \ echo "" else for i in $LIST_HD;do action "Starting Hard Drive optimisations for $i" \ hdparm -q -c1 -q -A1 -q -m16 -q -d1 /dev/$i done fi fi I suppose this answers the question? cu Denis -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
[expert] Welcome to new expert list
Hi folks
Sorry for leaving you alone such a long time - we had a 7.1 to work at,
and I can tell you one: It was a hell of a work for all of us here, but
the product is really cute.
Life has returned to somewhat more normal tempo now, so that I can spend
some more time reading the mailing lists, and answering your requests. At
least at sunday afternoon. ;-
I think that you have noticed that mailing list has moved to
"sympa" lately. This was long overdue, and final kick was that majordomo
just refused to work a week ago- and I have no ambitions to fight with it.
Now, why did I choose sympa instead of majordomo?
Both of them were installed when I came to company, I did not know how
to use any of them, and sympa worked better AS-IS, so I decided to go
with it.
I also decided to filter all the messages trough procmail filter first,
which makes all kind of magic possible. If i ever get to it (or someone
sends me a procmail receipt), I want to add a rule which will flatten all
multipart e-mails, throw away all non-text attachements, translate html
into standard ASCII and put all textual parts of a multipart message
together.
Yes, I use pine to read my mail, thx for asking .-)
Also, I am thinking of prohibiting all e-mails with subjects shorter than
two words. Personally, I usually do not read mails which have a subject
like "", "help!", "problems" etc, and I feel that they are bad for
content/noise ratio of the mailing list. Maybe I am wrong on this? WDYT?
For now, I have prohibited "unsubscribe" in e-mails, and all e-mails which
are bigger than 100kb. Also, starting with today, addresses which bounce a
lot will authomatically be removed from subscribers list. Nothing personal
- you can always resubscribe, but I hope that this measure will speed up
mail delivery a lot. (Time will tell.)
By the way, below is a new "welcome message", I hope you like it.
cheers
Denis
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[expert] test
Expert has been moved to sympa
[expert] by-by majordomo
This list has moved to majordomo. Sorry if you receive a LOT of messages like this one, I am having problems to explain this fact to the rest of the system :-( Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
[expert] Re: by-by majordomo
Of coarse, the list was moved FROM majordomo, TO sympa. Definitively NOT my day. :~This list has moved to majordomo. Sorry if you receive a LOT of messages :~like this one, I am having problems to explain this fact to the rest of :~the system :-( :~ :~Denis :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
[expert] Feels good to be back again
Hi, experts, gurus co. ! I suppose I own you all some explanations... The situation is such: Mandrakesoft mail-server machine is supposed to move to new machine. And I have been waiting and waiting and waiting... for this to happen, before moving expert list to sympa, because our present system looks as if it is going to die any time now, and I did not want to be the cause. :-( Well, today I decided that I just have to move the list to sympa, because majordomo finally refused any further cooperation, and your e-mails to expert list were ending in e-mails nirvana for the last 3 days. So, starting with today, all the administrative requests related to this list should be send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sending "HELP" command to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will show you a list of commands which can be used with short description. I sincerely hope that sympa will prove to be more robust than majordomo - so far there has been far less problems with lists managed by sympa, and I have far better possibilities to filter spam and such. cheers Denis -- --------- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
RE: [expert] test
:~Now would be a good time to remove me from the list. :~"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" As for subscribing/unsubscribing, the request should be sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Magic words are: UNSUBSCRIBE expert Also, you will notice that you are not allowed to use this word when you try replying to this message. This was done to avoid long stupid treads on this subject. Maybe i start screening "remove me from the list" too, one day. cu Denis -- ----- Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [expert] apache and imap configuration
:~for example I would like to put a .www directory in each users directory :~ :~/home/user/.www :~ :~How do I make apache see these directories, do I have to add each one to :~the httpd.conf files or is there some way that it will work :~automatically. How about making a link from /home/user/.www to APACHE-WEB-DIR/user? D.
