[expert] Network Install Fail, Signal 11

2003-11-10 Thread HaywireMac

Hi all, 

Thought I'd give up waiting for the ISO's to be released and do a
network install, but no go.

Yes, PNP is turned off in the BIOS, if that matters in this case.

Anyway, boots from the floppy fine, choose FTP, then DHCP, identifies
the network card correctly, then when it tries to bring up networking, I
get Signal 11, exiting.

The logs (alt-F3) show that the machine got the correct info from my
DHCP server and loaded the driver for the net card successfully, shows
no errors at all (?)

Any idea what in tarnation is goin' wrong?

Thanks!

BTW, if anyone can point me to an FTP with the ISO's, I'd ray
appreciate it, save me this hassle.

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Re: [expert] Network Install Fail, Signal 11

2003-11-10 Thread Charlie M.
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Monday 10 November 2003 8:45 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 Hi all,

 Thought I'd give up waiting for the ISO's to be released and do a
 network install, but no go.

 Yes, PNP is turned off in the BIOS, if that matters in this case.

 Anyway, boots from the floppy fine, choose FTP, then DHCP, identifies
 the network card correctly, then when it tries to bring up networking, I
 get Signal 11, exiting.

Is it a 3com 9xx network card? Those have been problematic for me many times 
for network installs. I don't know why, and have never had the time to 
diagnose it. Since they're such common hardware around here I started 
carrying a 160 GB Maxtor with cooker and current release trees mirrored from 
uninett.no on it in a USB enclosure instead of doing the internet/network 
install. That always works. (-:

 The logs (alt-F3) show that the machine got the correct info from my
 DHCP server and loaded the driver for the net card successfully, shows
 no errors at all (?)

Guess it wasn't the network interface then since that's where I've seen 
failures before with NIC problems.

 Any idea what in tarnation is goin' wrong?

 Thanks!

 BTW, if anyone can point me to an FTP with the ISO's, I'd ray
 appreciate it, save me this hassle.

I wonder if the problem is related to the fact that all the install images in 
the 9.2 tree have changed to get rid of the LG problem since I checked 
yesterday? There's no longer a .10mdkBOOT kernel image and that's likely what 
was on your network install floppy. You'll have to rewrite that disk I think. 
I say that because I ran rsync against the 9.2 tree a few minutes ago on my 
repository drive(s) and noticed there have been updates. Try a new network 
image; it couldn't hurt.

HTH
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Re: [expert] network cards running at 10mb/s instead of 100 - why?

2003-10-18 Thread Damon Lynch
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 15:49, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Friday 17 October 2003 08:31 pm, Damon Lynch wrote:
 
  # mii-tool eth0 -F 100baseTx-FD
 
  has no effect.  Any clues as to what I should do next?
 
 IIRC, most cable and dsl modems run 10Mb/s half duplex.  is eth0 the public 
 interface?

No, that's the interface to the LAN.  eth1 is to the cable modem (and
you are right, it should be 10mb/s half duplex); eth2 is to the DMZ. 
eth0 and eth2 should both be 100 mb/s full duplex.

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[expert] network cards running at 10mb/s instead of 100 - why?

2003-10-17 Thread Damon Lynch
Hello,

Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why my network is running at 1/10
the speed it should be.   The network cards on my firewall, which is
running MNF, are all running at 10mb/s.  At least two should be running
at 100.  I can see they are running slow by running this, for instance:

# mii-tool eth0
eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link

whereas, it should be like this, right -

# mii-tool eth0
eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok

(which is what I do get on my other PCs).

There is nothing special in the modules.conf, as far as I can tell -

alias tap0 ethertap
options tap0 -o tap0 unit=0
alias eth0 8139too
alias eth1 8139too
alias eth2 dmfe

I'm  a bit confused because the system messages show this, which
indicates the cards should be running at 100mb/s:
 
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.24
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:03.0
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at
0xc6849000, 00:05:1c:98:3c:77, IRQ 11
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:06.0
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth1: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at
0xc684b000, 00:00:21:04:60:8c, IRQ 5
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: dmfe: Davicom DM9xxx net driver, version
1.36.4 (2002-01-17)
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.0
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth2: Davicom DM9102 at pci00:04.0,
00:08:a1:2c:17:57, irq 9.
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on
auto-negotiated partner ability 45e1.
Oct 18 12:35:51 gw kernel: eth1: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on
auto-negotiated partner ability 45e1.


The hardware on the firewall is this -

00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1531 [Aladdin IV]
(rev b3)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge
[Aladdin IV] (rev b4)
00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139
(rev 10)
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. Ethernet 100/10
MBit (rev 40)
00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ViRGE/DX or /GX (rev 01)
00:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139
(rev 10)
00:0b.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev 20)

It's a Pentium 233.

Running this command:

# mii-tool eth0 -F 100baseTx-FD

has no effect.  Any clues as to what I should do next?

Thanks!
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Re: [expert] network cards running at 10mb/s instead of 100 - why?

2003-10-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 17 October 2003 08:31 pm, Damon Lynch wrote:

 # mii-tool eth0 -F 100baseTx-FD

 has no effect.  Any clues as to what I should do next?

IIRC, most cable and dsl modems run 10Mb/s half duplex.  is eth0 the public 
interface?
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[expert] Network printing

2003-09-03 Thread Anne Wilson
The only other mandrake box in the house does not have a printer.  
Today I needed to print from it.  Using mcc/printerdrake it picked up 
all four instances of the printer on my box.  However, any attempt to 
print a test page comes up with an error saying

unknown host anne-linux.lydgate.net

Any ideas, please?

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Re: [expert] Network printing

2003-09-03 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 03:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
 The only other mandrake box in the house does not have a printer.  
 Today I needed to print from it.  Using mcc/printerdrake it picked up 
 all four instances of the printer on my box.  However, any attempt to 
 print a test page comes up with an error saying
 
 unknown host anne-linux.lydgate.net
 
 Any ideas, please?
 
 Anne

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Re: [expert] Network printing

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 06:52 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 The only other mandrake box in the house does not have a printer.
 Today I needed to print from it.  Using mcc/printerdrake it picked up
 all four instances of the printer on my box.  However, any attempt to
 print a test page comes up with an error saying

 unknown host anne-linux.lydgate.net

 Any ideas, please?

You need to add an entry to your /etc/hosts file that specifies an IP address 
for anne-linux.lydgate.net which is the machine that is broadcasting the 
printer connection.  Without an entry to your /etc/hosts file, your machine 
is trying to connect to anne-linux.lydgate.net and the DNS server is saying 
that it does not know how to resolve that hostname.  

I assume that you are not running your own DNS server and DHCP server or else 
those would be setting the nameserver to the DNS and the DNS would be 
resolving the hostname for the box.

On my local network, I use not FQD names as hostnames and on each machine, I 
need to add the IP addresses for all of these machines to the hosts file.

Like:

192.168.0.125   anne-linux.lydgate.net
192.168.0.125   tom-linux.lydgate.net
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Re: [expert] Network printing

2003-09-03 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 03:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
 The only other mandrake box in the house does not have a printer.  
 Today I needed to print from it.  Using mcc/printerdrake it picked up 
 all four instances of the printer on my box.  However, any attempt to 
 print a test page comes up with an error saying
 
 unknown host anne-linux.lydgate.net

vi /etc/hosts?
 
 Any ideas, please?
 
 Anne


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Re: [expert] Network printing

2003-09-03 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Anne,

James is rihgt. If you don't have a decent DNS running within your LAN, you 
need to keep the canonical-Name - IP-Address translations in the /etc/hosts 
files on both systems (Printer-Server and Client).

Also - make sure that Cups allows printing from this IP-Address.
Default it denies it ...

Cheers

Joerg

On Wednesday 03 September 2003 19:19, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 03:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
  The only other mandrake box in the house does not have a printer.
  Today I needed to print from it.  Using mcc/printerdrake it picked up
  all four instances of the printer on my box.  However, any attempt to
  print a test page comes up with an error saying
 
  unknown host anne-linux.lydgate.net

 vi /etc/hosts?

  Any ideas, please?
 
  Anne

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Re: [expert] Network printing

2003-09-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2003 6:59 pm, Joerg Mertin wrote:
 Hi Anne,

 James is rihgt. If you don't have a decent DNS running within your
 LAN, you need to keep the canonical-Name - IP-Address
 translations in the /etc/hosts files on both systems
 (Printer-Server and Client).

Hi, Joerg.  My reply earliers doesn't seem to have got through.  What 
I said was:

Thanks, Bryan and Jack.  You are both right, I'm sure.  That box is a 
very low spec and hardly capable of anything, so I've never spent 
much time on it.  I'm sure that's what it is.  I've been thinking 
about it while I was out this afternoon and came to a similar 
conclusion.

I'm going to replace the puny disk that has no room for manouver, 
sometime in the next day or two and re-install.  It's a temporary 
fix, though, as I intend building a better machine in a few weeks.

Meanwhile, I'll get essential services only running, but fixing the 
dns does count there :-)  The router is acting as dns server, and 
could cope with the ip, but not with the name.  I did have this box 
acting as dns server at one point, then changed my mind.  I might 
change it back again :-)

Thanks again, both of you

 Also - make sure that Cups allows printing from this IP-Address.
 Default it denies it ...

Now this I haven't come across.  Where do you set it?  I have printed 
from the windows machines on the lan, though.

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Re: [expert] Network Card Recommendations

2003-01-23 Thread Vox

This time David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes daring and writes:

 At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
 from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
 are some of your favorites for a small server?

  I love Intel NICs...every server and every workstation in my house
  and business run that. I've never had an Intel die in less than 3
  years...I have aplenty of dead 3com and linksys cards dumped in a
  box, together with 2 Intel cards...one that was 5 years old when it
  died and one that was 3 years old when it died.

  So...Intel, all the way.

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Re: [expert] Network Card Recommendations

2003-01-23 Thread kwan
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, David Rankin wrote:

 Listmates,
 
 I have convinced myself that the PNIC2 eth0 messages I have been
 receiving lately are signs that my Linksys LNE 100TX pci NIC is slowly
 dying. It only flakes out under high load conditions like pulling a 600M
 backup across the card. Anyway, after 2 years of faithfull service, I
 wouldn't mind buying another one for the box, but I thought I would first
 check to see if you guys had any other suggestions. My LM box still runs
 Odyssey (7.2) and serves 8 clients. The only time it sees a heavy load of
 throughput is when I backup to another machine on the LAN.
 
 At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
 from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
 are some of your favorites for a small server?

The Linksys, IMHO, is the best card for the price. I have about a dozen
of them and they're all working great. I've not had such good luck with
the Netgears. Every once in a while the local computer store puts the
Linksys on rebate so it ends up being about $9 apiece.


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PNIC2 Error Fixed [was Re: [expert] Network Card Recommendations]

2003-01-23 Thread David Rankin
The PNIC2 eth0 tx hung mystery has been solved. I though I would share the
solution. Background: the eth0 error started showing up after a large
thunderstom rolled through Texas around Christmas. The problem would come and go
appearing mostly when the network was under high load due to backup. Sometimes
the error would cause the hub to shutdown (so I thought).

We'll, checking each connection at the hub revealed that the hub would crash
when I connected the server to the hub. This combined with the PNIC2 eth0
message caused me to suspect the Linksys LNE100TX card in the server. So I found
another one in Nacogdoches (no easy task in Nacogdoches, Texas). Replaced the
card repowered the hub and all was well (I thought). I started the backup and
went to lunch after watching for 10 minutes to make sure all was well.

Got back from lunch - everything was dead again. Well, as it turns out, it
wasn't the server network card, but it was a problem with the hub. The fan in
the old CNET 8-port was dying and causing the hub to overheat. The LM server was
the only machine on the network smart enough to log any errors. Being the
server, it also carried the most traffic and would cause the hub to overheat
once connected making it look like a server network card problem.

Thanks for everyones help with this problem over the past few weeks. And,
did I tell you, I only had to drive 60 miles to find a new 8-port!

I would check each connection with the

James Sparenberg wrote:

 Ran some throughput tests about 6 months ago... rough test nothing fancy
 3c905's seemed to give me 45mbs real throughput... the linksys about
 42mbps Honestly I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't stay
 with them the price/performance point is pretty solid from what I see.
 (and Linksys doesn't freak out when you call them and say Linux...!)

 James

 On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 22:02, David Rankin wrote:
  Listmates,
 
  I have convinced myself that the PNIC2 eth0 messages I have been
  receiving lately are signs that my Linksys LNE 100TX pci NIC is slowly
  dying. It only flakes out under high load conditions like pulling a 600M
  backup across the card. Anyway, after 2 years of faithfull service, I
  wouldn't mind buying another one for the box, but I thought I would first
  check to see if you guys had any other suggestions. My LM box still runs
  Odyssey (7.2) and serves 8 clients. The only time it sees a heavy load of
  throughput is when I backup to another machine on the LAN.
 
  At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
  from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
  are some of your favorites for a small server?
 
  --
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  Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
  510 Ochiltree Street
  Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
  (936) 715-9333
 
 
 
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Re: PNIC2 Error Fixed [was Re: [expert] Network CardRecommendations]

2003-01-23 Thread James Sparenberg
Hey I had one of those hubs... used it for 3 weeks by putting Ice packs
(the non water kind) on top of it to keep it cold. *grin*

James


On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:51, David Rankin wrote:
 The PNIC2 eth0 tx hung mystery has been solved. I though I would share the
 solution. Background: the eth0 error started showing up after a large
 thunderstom rolled through Texas around Christmas. The problem would come and go
 appearing mostly when the network was under high load due to backup. Sometimes
 the error would cause the hub to shutdown (so I thought).
 
 We'll, checking each connection at the hub revealed that the hub would crash
 when I connected the server to the hub. This combined with the PNIC2 eth0
 message caused me to suspect the Linksys LNE100TX card in the server. So I found
 another one in Nacogdoches (no easy task in Nacogdoches, Texas). Replaced the
 card repowered the hub and all was well (I thought). I started the backup and
 went to lunch after watching for 10 minutes to make sure all was well.
 
 Got back from lunch - everything was dead again. Well, as it turns out, it
 wasn't the server network card, but it was a problem with the hub. The fan in
 the old CNET 8-port was dying and causing the hub to overheat. The LM server was
 the only machine on the network smart enough to log any errors. Being the
 server, it also carried the most traffic and would cause the hub to overheat
 once connected making it look like a server network card problem.
 
 Thanks for everyones help with this problem over the past few weeks. And,
 did I tell you, I only had to drive 60 miles to find a new 8-port!
 
 I would check each connection with the
 
 James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  Ran some throughput tests about 6 months ago... rough test nothing fancy
  3c905's seemed to give me 45mbs real throughput... the linksys about
  42mbps Honestly I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't stay
  with them the price/performance point is pretty solid from what I see.
  (and Linksys doesn't freak out when you call them and say Linux...!)
 
  James
 
  On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 22:02, David Rankin wrote:
   Listmates,
  
   I have convinced myself that the PNIC2 eth0 messages I have been
   receiving lately are signs that my Linksys LNE 100TX pci NIC is slowly
   dying. It only flakes out under high load conditions like pulling a 600M
   backup across the card. Anyway, after 2 years of faithfull service, I
   wouldn't mind buying another one for the box, but I thought I would first
   check to see if you guys had any other suggestions. My LM box still runs
   Odyssey (7.2) and serves 8 clients. The only time it sees a heavy load of
   throughput is when I backup to another machine on the LAN.
  
   At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
   from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
   are some of your favorites for a small server?
  
   --
   David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
   Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
   510 Ochiltree Street
   Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
   (936) 715-9333
  
  
  
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[expert] Network Card Recommendations

2003-01-22 Thread David Rankin
Listmates,

I have convinced myself that the PNIC2 eth0 messages I have been
receiving lately are signs that my Linksys LNE 100TX pci NIC is slowly
dying. It only flakes out under high load conditions like pulling a 600M
backup across the card. Anyway, after 2 years of faithfull service, I
wouldn't mind buying another one for the box, but I thought I would first
check to see if you guys had any other suggestions. My LM box still runs
Odyssey (7.2) and serves 8 clients. The only time it sees a heavy load of
throughput is when I backup to another machine on the LAN.

At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
are some of your favorites for a small server?

--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333



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Re: [expert] Network Card Recommendations

2003-01-22 Thread James Sparenberg
Ran some throughput tests about 6 months ago... rough test nothing fancy
3c905's seemed to give me 45mbs real throughput... the linksys about
42mbps Honestly I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't stay
with them the price/performance point is pretty solid from what I see. 
(and Linksys doesn't freak out when you call them and say Linux...!)

James


On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 22:02, David Rankin wrote:
 Listmates,
 
 I have convinced myself that the PNIC2 eth0 messages I have been
 receiving lately are signs that my Linksys LNE 100TX pci NIC is slowly
 dying. It only flakes out under high load conditions like pulling a 600M
 backup across the card. Anyway, after 2 years of faithfull service, I
 wouldn't mind buying another one for the box, but I thought I would first
 check to see if you guys had any other suggestions. My LM box still runs
 Odyssey (7.2) and serves 8 clients. The only time it sees a heavy load of
 throughput is when I backup to another machine on the LAN.
 
 At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
 from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
 are some of your favorites for a small server?
 
 --
 David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
 Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
 510 Ochiltree Street
 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
 (936) 715-9333
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Network Card Recommendations

2003-01-22 Thread Aaron Matteson
Either stick with Linksys, or i would recommend the Netgear FA311 for
another low-budget card from BestBuy or something, very sturdy card.

On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 22:02, David Rankin wrote:
 Listmates,
 
 I have convinced myself that the PNIC2 eth0 messages I have been
 receiving lately are signs that my Linksys LNE 100TX pci NIC is slowly
 dying. It only flakes out under high load conditions like pulling a 600M
 backup across the card. Anyway, after 2 years of faithfull service, I
 wouldn't mind buying another one for the box, but I thought I would first
 check to see if you guys had any other suggestions. My LM box still runs
 Odyssey (7.2) and serves 8 clients. The only time it sees a heavy load of
 throughput is when I backup to another machine on the LAN.
 
 At $14, it's hard to say no to another Linksys, but if I could benefit
 from getting a better card, that's what I'm here trying to find out. What
 are some of your favorites for a small server?
 
 --
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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-20 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500 Mark Weaver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi List,
  
  has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
  dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
  Shorewall firewall system.
  
  Mark
 
 Any chance you're experiencing the ssh pause...  I use ssh extensively
 and experience pauses ONLY when modem connected (never when LAN connected)
 to the server.  It doesn't affect all sessions; I can continue to work on
 another session while one or more are stalled...  I rarely connect between
 2 modem connected machines; but it's on my list to watch for that possible
 scenario...
 
 Pierre

Hi Pierre,

No. This is happening at work on the LAN. I don't use 9 on my server at 
home. it and my old machine don't get along at all very well. the 
network troubles with that machine running 9.0 are terrible. The 
interruptions are across the spectrum from web server to ssh. 

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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-20 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:04:34 -0500 (EST) daRcmaTTeR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
  On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500 Mark Weaver
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi List,
   
   has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0
   goes dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked
   to Shorewall firewall system.
   
   Mark
  
  Any chance you're experiencing the ssh pause...  I use ssh
  extensively and experience pauses ONLY when modem connected (never
  when LAN connected) to the server.  It doesn't affect all sessions; I
  can continue to work on another session while one or more are
  stalled...  I rarely connect between 2 modem connected machines; but
  it's on my list to watch for that possible scenario...
  
  Pierre
 
 Hi Pierre,
 
 No. This is happening at work on the LAN. I don't use 9 on my server at 
 home. it and my old machine don't get along at all very well. the 
 network troubles with that machine running 9.0 are terrible. The 
 interruptions are across the spectrum from web server to ssh. 
 

In that case, some more details might help...  during the outage of course
:^)  The usual: ifconfig, route -n, ...

Is the problem on a schedule (at specific times or rate)?

Anything else happening at the time?  Other symptoms/anomolies? Other
users affected?

Cheers,
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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-20 Thread Mark Weaver
Pierre Fortin wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:04:34 -0500 (EST) daRcmaTTeR
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote:


 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500 Mark Weaver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi List,

 has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake
 9.0 goes dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to
 be linked to Shorewall firewall system.

 Mark

 Any chance you're experiencing the ssh pause...  I use ssh
 extensively and experience pauses ONLY when modem connected
 (never when LAN connected) to the server.  It doesn't affect all
 sessions; I can continue to work on another session while one or
 more are stalled...  I rarely connect between 2 modem connected
 machines; but it's on my list to watch for that possible
 scenario...

 Pierre

 Hi Pierre,

 No. This is happening at work on the LAN. I don't use 9 on my
 server at home. it and my old machine don't get along at all very
 well. the network troubles with that machine running 9.0 are
 terrible. The interruptions are across the spectrum from web server
 to ssh.



 In that case, some more details might help...  during the outage of
 course :^)  The usual: ifconfig, route -n, ...

 Is the problem on a schedule (at specific times or rate)?

 Anything else happening at the time?  Other symptoms/anomolies? Other
  users affected?

 Cheers, Pierre

nothing discernable, which makes it rather a pain to track. One thing 
i've noticed is that if I restart the network service, OR just restart 
the shorewall service the problem clears up. the shorewall service 
restart may, or may not be related. In the short time I was able to get 
9.0 running on my home server I noticed the same behavior for a time.

As far as I've noticed there doesn't appear to be any regular interval. 
the events seem to be random. Other then losing connectivity for a time, 
and it does clear (unclog) after a time, things return to normal.

here's the information from the ifconfig and route -n output:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:97:B9:59:E3
  inet addr:205.216.60.162  Bcast:205.216.60.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4836553 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:417172 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:488489887 (465.8 Mb)  TX bytes:357181688 (340.6 Mb)
  Interrupt:14 Base address:0xec80

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:2E:15:CF
  inet addr:205.216.60.39  Bcast:205.216.60.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4953429 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:257085 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:509489013 (485.8 Mb)  TX bytes:193906058 (184.9 Mb)
  Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe8c0

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:99456 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:99456 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:15233458 (14.5 Mb)  TX bytes:15233458 (14.5 Mb)

[root@download root]# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
205.216.60.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
205.216.60.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 205.216.60.10.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0


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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-20 Thread Jack and Melissa McSwain
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 09:45 am, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Jack and Melissa McSwain wrote:

  BTW has anyone noticed a dramatic increase in hack attempts in the last 2
  to 3 weeks? Port scans show all the ports are stealth, and I have no
  servers running or installed, but they still manage to find the box.
  Win98 with norton personal firewall seems to be a little more stealth.
  Also Shorewall is set to drop instead of reject packets.

On Tuesday 19 November 2002 12:29 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:

 What adjustments to shorewall did you make?


I started with the example scripts from the shorewall homepage, 
/etc/shorewall/common.def was either missing or empty on stock install
there are 9 ip-tables rules in it for various things.

In interfaces I added 
norfc1918,routefilter,noping,routefilter,dropunclean,logunclean
I didnt have any of these before.

The file rfc1918 was not present before (came from examples on shorewall)

In Shorewall.conf  I turned off IP forwarding, turned on route filtering, 
turned off forward ping,  and NEWNOTSYN=NO

 



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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-20 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:44:26 -0500 Mark Weaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pierre Fortin wrote:
   On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:04:34 -0500 (EST) daRcmaTTeR
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote:
  
  
   On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500 Mark Weaver
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Hi List,
  
   has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake
   9.0 goes dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to
   be linked to Shorewall firewall system.
  
   Mark
  
   Any chance you're experiencing the ssh pause...  I use ssh
   extensively and experience pauses ONLY when modem connected
   (never when LAN connected) to the server.  It doesn't affect all
   sessions; I can continue to work on another session while one or
   more are stalled...  I rarely connect between 2 modem connected
   machines; but it's on my list to watch for that possible
   scenario...
  
   Pierre
  
   Hi Pierre,
  
   No. This is happening at work on the LAN. I don't use 9 on my
   server at home. it and my old machine don't get along at all very
   well. the network troubles with that machine running 9.0 are
   terrible. The interruptions are across the spectrum from web server
   to ssh.
  
  
  
   In that case, some more details might help...  during the outage of
   course :^)  The usual: ifconfig, route -n, ...
  
   Is the problem on a schedule (at specific times or rate)?
  
   Anything else happening at the time?  Other symptoms/anomolies? Other
users affected?
  
   Cheers, Pierre
 
 nothing discernable, which makes it rather a pain to track. One thing 
 i've noticed is that if I restart the network service, OR just restart 
 the shorewall service the problem clears up. the shorewall service 
 restart may, or may not be related. In the short time I was able to get 
 9.0 running on my home server I noticed the same behavior for a time.
 
 As far as I've noticed there doesn't appear to be any regular interval. 
 the events seem to be random. Other then losing connectivity for a time,
 
 and it does clear (unclog) after a time, things return to normal.
 
 here's the information from the ifconfig and route -n output:
 
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:97:B9:59:E3
inet addr:205.216.60.162  Bcast:205.216.60.255 
 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:4836553 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:417172 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:488489887 (465.8 Mb)  TX bytes:357181688 (340.6 Mb)
Interrupt:14 Base address:0xec80
 
 eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:2E:15:CF
inet addr:205.216.60.39  Bcast:205.216.60.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500 
Metric:1 RX packets:4953429 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
frame:0 TX packets:257085 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:509489013 (485.8 Mb)  TX bytes:193906058 (184.9 Mb)
Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe8c0
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
RX packets:99456 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:99456 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:15233458 (14.5 Mb)  TX bytes:15233458 (14.5 Mb)
 
 [root@download root]# route -n
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
 Iface
 205.216.60.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth1 205.216.60.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0 
   0 eth1
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo 0.0.0.0 205.216.60.10.0.0.0 UG0  0   
 0 eth0


OUCH!!!  TWO interfaces on the same subnet!  Are you really sure what your
network is doing?  Just a peek at the route table shows two subnets (same)
on eth1 while the default route is out eth0...

Since you're apparently not routing between eth0  eth1 (bridging?), try
shutting down one interface...  my guess is that your problems will not
occur unless you bring it back online...  

If you have ethereal, try sniffing all interfaces...  the RX packets/bytes
on the interfaces is almost identical; but eth0 seems to carry more TX
traffic (about 2:1)...  sounds like some subtle pathing problems may be
biting you...

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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-19 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 10:29, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Hi List,
 
 has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
 dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
 Shorewall firewall system.
 

Nope, just you :-) It's probably not shorewall, as shorewall's policy
doesn't change on the fly -- if it's preventing you from doing
something, it will always prevent you from doing that thing. You could
always verify that with a quick /sbin/service shorewall stop.

Intermittent network has a lot of possibilities, and the best way to
troubleshoot is to walk up the OSI stack -- first check the physical
(very important with wireless, so look at signal strength and
noise-to-signal ratio), then look for framing errors in ifconfig's
output, then look at higher level functions. You might also look through
syslog for error messages from your NIC driver.

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[expert] network goes dead

2002-11-19 Thread Mark Weaver
Hi List,

has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
Shorewall firewall system.

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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-19 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500 Mark Weaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi List,
 
 has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
 dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
 Shorewall firewall system.
 
 Mark

Any chance you're experiencing the ssh pause...  I use ssh extensively
and experience pauses ONLY when modem connected (never when LAN connected)
to the server.  It doesn't affect all sessions; I can continue to work on
another session while one or more are stalled...  I rarely connect between
2 modem connected machines; but it's on my list to watch for that possible
scenario...

Pierre


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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-19 Thread Jack and Melissa McSwain
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 12:29 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Hi List,

 has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes
 dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to
 Shorewall firewall system.

 Mark
 
It has happened to me recently, but it looked like it was directly related to 
hack attempts. IFDOWN and IFUP would not restore ETH0 , only reboot would fix 
it. Sometimes they managed to lock the whole system up. After re-configuring 
shorewall, none of thier attempts have bothered the machine. 

BTW has anyone noticed a dramatic increase in hack attempts in the last 2 to 3 
weeks? Port scans show all the ports are stealth, and I have no servers 
running or installed, but they still manage to find the box. Win98 with 
norton personal firewall seems to be a little more stealth. Also Shorewall is 
set to drop instead of reject packets.

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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-19 Thread Mark Weaver
Jack Coates wrote:

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 10:29, Mark Weaver wrote:


Hi List,

has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
Shorewall firewall system.



Nope, just you :-) It's probably not shorewall, as shorewall's policy
doesn't change on the fly -- if it's preventing you from doing
something, it will always prevent you from doing that thing. You could
always verify that with a quick /sbin/service shorewall stop.

Intermittent network has a lot of possibilities, and the best way to
troubleshoot is to walk up the OSI stack -- first check the physical
(very important with wireless, so look at signal strength and
noise-to-signal ratio), then look for framing errors in ifconfig's
output, then look at higher level functions. You might also look through
syslog for error messages from your NIC driver.



Hi Jack,

Good ideas...thanks. I'll check into that.

Mark




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Re: [expert] network goes dead

2002-11-19 Thread Brian Schroeder
I have had this sort of problem in the past, with mdk7.2 up to
8.2.   There was never anything I could find to explain what was
going on.  It didn't seem to be related to any firewall, although
I have never used shorewall. For me, the conditions that caused
it were:   33k modem connection;  heavy local CPU load.

With a faster modem connection, it never happened.  And, since
I changed ISP, I always get a faster connection, so it's not a
problem any more.

Brian.



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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500

Hi List,

has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes dead 
periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to Shorewall 
firewall system.

Mark


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[expert] Network Profile swiching With MDK 9.0

2002-10-28 Thread James Sparenberg
All,

   Trying to find a way to switch network profiles on the fly with MDK
9.0  I've found a number of them that work at boot time, but since I
don't always know what I'm going to do until after a boot they are for
the most part useless. (Unless I want to do the Windows reboot dance.) 
Using the profile tool in MCC doesn't work either as it keeps getting
things confused and since it immediately tries to connect with the last
profile I get tired of waiting 5 minutes for it to figure out it can't
connect so that I can set up a new one.  (Then when I try to switch back
later it's hell all over again.)  Does anyone know of a tool like the
old drakprofile that just lets me make the changes and restart the
network without rebooting and waiting for all kinds of help to time
out?

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Re: [expert] Network Profile swiching With MDK 9.0

2002-10-28 Thread J. Grant
Hi,

I posted a similar msg when using my laptop with multiple profiles,
I use fixed IP now so i dont get the wait problem you have (assuming 
that is a dhcp  DNS prob).

There were some command line scripts to change the network IP etc etc

or you could just use static IP and change IP with MCC. (I only tried in 
8.2)

JG

James Sparenberg wrote:
All,

   Trying to find a way to switch network profiles on the fly with MDK
9.0  I've found a number of them that work at boot time, but since I
don't always know what I'm going to do until after a boot they are for
the most part useless. (Unless I want to do the Windows reboot dance.) 
Using the profile tool in MCC doesn't work either as it keeps getting
things confused and since it immediately tries to connect with the last
profile I get tired of waiting 5 minutes for it to figure out it can't
connect so that I can set up a new one.  (Then when I try to switch back
later it's hell all over again.)  Does anyone know of a tool like the
old drakprofile that just lets me make the changes and restart the
network without rebooting and waiting for all kinds of help to time
out?

James









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Re: [expert] Network Profile swiching With MDK 9.0

2002-10-28 Thread James Sparenberg
Viable alternatives If I always knew ahead of time what the IP would
be.  Problem is that I'm moving a lot to networks where either I don't
know the intended IP structure, or if I did set up once it won't be the
same this time.(customer sites).  Right now I've got about 6 profiles in
this laptop and expect to add more.(Never knew how much I'd need a
laptop till I bought one.)

James


On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 04:04, J. Grant wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I posted a similar msg when using my laptop with multiple profiles,
 I use fixed IP now so i dont get the wait problem you have (assuming 
 that is a dhcp  DNS prob).
 
 There were some command line scripts to change the network IP etc etc
 
 or you could just use static IP and change IP with MCC. (I only tried in 
 8.2)
 
 JG
 
 James Sparenberg wrote:
  All,
  
 Trying to find a way to switch network profiles on the fly with MDK
  9.0  I've found a number of them that work at boot time, but since I
  don't always know what I'm going to do until after a boot they are for
  the most part useless. (Unless I want to do the Windows reboot dance.) 
  Using the profile tool in MCC doesn't work either as it keeps getting
  things confused and since it immediately tries to connect with the last
  profile I get tired of waiting 5 minutes for it to figure out it can't
  connect so that I can set up a new one.  (Then when I try to switch back
  later it's hell all over again.)  Does anyone know of a tool like the
  old drakprofile that just lets me make the changes and restart the
  network without rebooting and waiting for all kinds of help to time
  out?
  
  James
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] Network Profile swiching With MDK 9.0

2002-10-28 Thread J. Grant
Why not just click Do not activate eth0 at boot time (or config it 
yourself in the boot up sequence? Then you can do as you wish.

JG

James Sparenberg wrote:
Viable alternatives If I always knew ahead of time what the IP would
be.  Problem is that I'm moving a lot to networks where either I don't
know the intended IP structure, or if I did set up once it won't be the
same this time.(customer sites).  Right now I've got about 6 profiles in
this laptop and expect to add more.(Never knew how much I'd need a
laptop till I bought one.)

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Re: [expert] Network Profile swiching With MDK 9.0

2002-10-28 Thread James Sparenberg
h interesting thought...

On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 10:23, J. Grant wrote:
 Why not just click Do not activate eth0 at boot time (or config it 
 yourself in the boot up sequence? Then you can do as you wish.
 
 JG
 
 James Sparenberg wrote:
  Viable alternatives If I always knew ahead of time what the IP would
  be.  Problem is that I'm moving a lot to networks where either I don't
  know the intended IP structure, or if I did set up once it won't be the
  same this time.(customer sites).  Right now I've got about 6 profiles in
  this laptop and expect to add more.(Never knew how much I'd need a
  laptop till I bought one.)
  
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[expert] network messaging program

2002-10-18 Thread Rulon Holm
I am looking for a program that will allow me to send messages on a mixed 
network(windows and mandrake)?
Is there such a program?
I need suggestions for both the windows side and the linux side.

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Re: [expert] network messaging program

2002-10-18 Thread James Sparenberg
WinPopup (already on windows) + LinPopUp worked here (when I had
windows)  Kinda like an instant messenger.

James


On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 01:02, Rulon Holm wrote:
 I am looking for a program that will allow me to send messages on a mixed 
 network(windows and mandrake)?
 Is there such a program?
 I need suggestions for both the windows side and the linux side.
 
 -Thnx
 
 
 

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Re: [expert] network messaging program

2002-10-18 Thread J. Grant
If your windows users are already using ICQ you can get a great GPL 
client from micq.org. Its got all the features you will need.

JG

Rulon Holm wrote:
I am looking for a program that will allow me to send messages on a mixed 
network(windows and mandrake)?
Is there such a program?
I need suggestions for both the windows side and the linux side.

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Re: [expert] Network Interfaces at boot time?

2002-10-12 Thread Dave Sherman
On Friday 11 October 2002 08:45 pm, John O'Shaughnessy wrote:
 Greetings,

 I've got a Dell Latitude C400 with mandrake 9.0.

 There is:
 1. Inboard Ethernet (always present)
 2. Dock Ethernet (present only when docked)
 3. Wireless Ethernet PC Card (present only when inserted -- could be either
 docked or undocked.

 When I installed the system, eth0 was the internal interface, eth1 was the
 dock, and wireless was added later, showing up as eth2.

 Now, when I try to book undocked, the system freezes trying to bring up
 eth1, which, I'm assuming, means it is looking for the Dock Ethernet, which
 isn't there.  I need to power down, or CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out of the
 situation.

 Is there a way to make the system understand that the interfaces may or may
 not be present, or at the very least, not to hang when not docked?

John,

If you run Mandrake Control Center and go to the Networking module, you
will be able to create separate profiles for each NIC in your laptop. I
haven't used that before, so I can't vouch for its abilities...

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Re: [expert] Network Interfaces at boot time?

2002-10-12 Thread John O'Shaughnessy
I've seen the profiles -- is there any documentation on what you can do with
them?

Based on this, and Todd's suggestion, I guess I can try to create some boot
time logic to see if the dock is present, and load (or not load) the network
accordingly.

It's just shame that it couldn't just fail gracefully, noting that the
interface doesn't seem to be present, and moving on.

Thanks!

John


On 10/12/02 8:05 AM, Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 11 October 2002 08:45 pm, John O'Shaughnessy wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 Is there a way to make the system understand that the interfaces may or may
 not be present, or at the very least, not to hang when not docked?
 
 John,
 
 If you run Mandrake Control Center and go to the Networking module, you
 will be able to create separate profiles for each NIC in your laptop. I
 haven't used that before, so I can't vouch for its abilities...




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[expert] Network Interfaces at boot time?

2002-10-11 Thread John O'Shaughnessy
Greetings,

I've got a Dell Latitude C400 with mandrake 9.0.

There is:
1. Inboard Ethernet (always present)
2. Dock Ethernet (present only when docked)
3. Wireless Ethernet PC Card (present only when inserted -- could be either
docked or undocked.

When I installed the system, eth0 was the internal interface, eth1 was the
dock, and wireless was added later, showing up as eth2.

Now, when I try to book undocked, the system freezes trying to bring up
eth1, which, I'm assuming, means it is looking for the Dock Ethernet, which
isn't there.  I need to power down, or CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out of the
situation.

Is there a way to make the system understand that the interfaces may or may
not be present, or at the very least, not to hang when not docked?



Thanks,

John


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Re: [expert] Network Interfaces at boot time?

2002-10-11 Thread James Sparenberg
John,

   There may be other ways to do this but I'd go into
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and set ifcfg-eth1 where it says ONBOOT
to no and then when I do need it just do ifup eth1 and bring it up
manually.  

James


On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 20:45, John O'Shaughnessy wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I've got a Dell Latitude C400 with mandrake 9.0.
 
 There is:
 1. Inboard Ethernet (always present)
 2. Dock Ethernet (present only when docked)
 3. Wireless Ethernet PC Card (present only when inserted -- could be either
 docked or undocked.
 
 When I installed the system, eth0 was the internal interface, eth1 was the
 dock, and wireless was added later, showing up as eth2.
 
 Now, when I try to book undocked, the system freezes trying to bring up
 eth1, which, I'm assuming, means it is looking for the Dock Ethernet, which
 isn't there.  I need to power down, or CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out of the
 situation.
 
 Is there a way to make the system understand that the interfaces may or may
 not be present, or at the very least, not to hang when not docked?
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 John
 
 
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Re: [expert] Network Interfaces at boot time?

2002-10-11 Thread Todd Flinders
This may not be the most elegant way, but you could edit 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 and change the ONBOOT parameter to 
no.

Then when you want to bring up eth1, type:
ifup eth1

When you want to undock the laptop, you can bring down eth1 first with:
ifdown eth1

On Friday 11 October 2002 08:45 pm, John O'Shaughnessy wrote:
 Greetings,

 I've got a Dell Latitude C400 with mandrake 9.0.

 There is:
 1. Inboard Ethernet (always present)
 2. Dock Ethernet (present only when docked)
 3. Wireless Ethernet PC Card (present only when inserted -- could be either
 docked or undocked.

 When I installed the system, eth0 was the internal interface, eth1 was the
 dock, and wireless was added later, showing up as eth2.

 Now, when I try to book undocked, the system freezes trying to bring up
 eth1, which, I'm assuming, means it is looking for the Dock Ethernet, which
 isn't there.  I need to power down, or CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out of the
 situation.

 Is there a way to make the system understand that the interfaces may or may
 not be present, or at the very least, not to hang when not docked?



 Thanks,

 John



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Re: [expert] network connections - automatic retry

2002-08-12 Thread James Sparenberg

On 08 Apr 2002 21:38:22 -0500
Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said:

 On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 14:08, K Montgomery wrote:
  I have a laptop that runs the netfs service on boot in order
  to mount a remote Samba filesystem.  However, being a laptop,
  it's not always connected to the network.
  
  Can I make it so that if netfs fails to find the Samba server
  on boot, it will attempt to connect repeatedly -- say, every 5
  minutes -- in case I do connect to the network later?  I have
  a little shell scripting experience, so any suggestions
  involving that are welcome.
 
 Create a script which will first check for the existence of your
 server and share ('smbclient -L //server', then parse the output
 to look for the correct share name). Then, if the server and
 share exist, run smbmount with the appropriate options to mount
 your samba server/share. Then, create a cron job that will run
 the script every 5 minutes.

Being the worlds slowest script writer. (wanna race... you'll
win!) I'd agree but do one thing different.  Set a variables
initial value to 0 then if the mount point doesn't exist it trys
to run the mount. ( a while loop maybe ) Sleeps for 6 minutes and
trys again if it finds the mount it returns 1 and it exits. If not
it does it again and again.
 
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Re: [expert] Network Client Billing Solution needed

2002-08-02 Thread John Haywood

On Friday 02 August 2002 15:17, you wrote:
 On 2 Aug 2002 at 7:45, John Haywood wrote:
  Has anybody come across any decent solutions? I've checked Sourceforge,
  but most projects are either pre-alpha, dead, or contain no files 

 You might look at ntop
 http://www.ntop.org
 It should do most of what you want.

 Ray Warren


Ray, this looks promising for the Cisco side of things- now does anybody have 
any suggestions for the stuff in the DMZ, and the unmanaged HP switch

TIA
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[expert] Network Client Billing Solution needed

2002-08-01 Thread John Haywood

I've got a situation whereby a client allows its building's tenants to use 
their LAN, and in some cases their mail server within the firewall.

They will also be able to set up their own servers in a DMZ for such things 
as web/mail/sftp hosting.

What we need to be able to do is be able to obtain stats for usage, both in 
and out, on any interface, and then present these in an easy-to-understand, 
per client (i.e. ip range) format.

Now, using Netflow on the Cisco's, this should be possible. But there is also 
one site which has an unmanaged HP switch (sigh!), which may prove more 
interesting

I'm guessing that I'll need to monitor several/all ports, then find a decent 
analysis package which will dump into csv, Excel (for Open Office) or 
somesuch format, but an end-to-end would be nice :)

Has anybody come across any decent solutions? I've checked Sourceforge, but 
most projects are either pre-alpha, dead, or contain no files


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Re: [expert] Network Client Billing Solution needed

2002-08-01 Thread Ray Warren



On 2 Aug 2002 at 7:45, John Haywood wrote:

 Has anybody come across any decent solutions? I've checked Sourceforge, but 
 most projects are either pre-alpha, dead, or contain no files
 
You might look at ntop
http://www.ntop.org
It should do most of what you want.

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[expert] Network fun!

2002-07-17 Thread Belkie, Dan

Hey Guys!
a little background on my problem.

I have a Mandrake box 8.0 acting as a kinda DSL router.
It has 2 NIC cards. One with a Real IP and one with a non-routable
(192.168.1.1)

I have a web server on the inside on the following IP: 192.168.0.110

I have forwarding set up to send any request coming in on port 80 to
192.168.0.110.

It does not work :( but the Linux box CAN ping the web server?

If the web server is on 192.168.0.110 I assume it will work. (because I have
used the iptables script on another box, and it works fine.

The box is working as a gateway for the 3 or so computers behind it grabbing
a DHCP assigned address. ;)

Sooo I assume I need to do something n the Linux box for routing? Ideas?
Here is a quick snip of the iptables script:

#!/bin/sh
modprobe ip_tables
modprobe iptable_nat
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

iptables -F -t filter
iptables -Z -t filter
iptables -X -t filter
iptables -F -t nat
iptables -Z -t nat
iptables -X -t nat
#Setup your table policies;
iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
#connexion share
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 142.179.182.112 -p tcp \
--dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.110

Thanks!
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Re: [expert] Network fun!

2002-07-17 Thread Patrick Putteman


- Original Message -
From: Belkie, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: [expert] Network fun!


 Hey Guys!
 a little background on my problem.

 I have a Mandrake box 8.0 acting as a kinda DSL router.
 It has 2 NIC cards. One with a Real IP and one with a non-routable
 (192.168.1.1)

 I have a web server on the inside on the following IP: 192.168.0.110

 I have forwarding set up to send any request coming in on port 80 to
 192.168.0.110.

 It does not work :( but the Linux box CAN ping the web server?

What's the netmask of the nic on the LAN side? If its 255.255.255.0 it will
not work. Change it to 255.255.0.0 and you should be set.

Regards

Patrick





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RE: [expert] Network fun!

2002-07-17 Thread Belkie, Dan

Ok perfect!
So then all the servers on the inside should be on 255.255.0.0 right?
(webservers and all?)

Thanks
d.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Putteman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: July 17, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Network fun!



- Original Message -
From: Belkie, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: [expert] Network fun!


 Hey Guys!
 a little background on my problem.

 I have a Mandrake box 8.0 acting as a kinda DSL router.
 It has 2 NIC cards. One with a Real IP and one with a non-routable
 (192.168.1.1)

 I have a web server on the inside on the following IP: 192.168.0.110

 I have forwarding set up to send any request coming in on port 80 to
 192.168.0.110.

 It does not work :( but the Linux box CAN ping the web server?

What's the netmask of the nic on the LAN side? If its 255.255.255.0 it will
not work. Change it to 255.255.0.0 and you should be set.

Regards

Patrick






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[expert] network-measuring ...

2002-06-30 Thread hans schneidhofer

hi,
am looking, how to measure my network-cards and how to tune the ideal size of 
packets.
the reason is, I have different 3Coms in my linux-boxes. One box has 2x100MB 
= 3c905TX and the other box has a one 10 MB = 3c900.

now I was looking for the program sray, but cannot find it on linux. is there 
anay aquivalent program of spray ?

thanks for your helping and ideas
bye hans



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[expert] network card to 10mbps ?

2002-05-02 Thread Rodrigo Sanchez Olavarria

Dear Experts:
   I had some extrange problems exporting a file
system via NFS... well, It seems that my wiring
is out of any standart in this segment for 100mbps..
  so,  I want to set my network card ( 10/100 autosensing),
to only 10Mbps... is it possible ?


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Re: [expert] Network audio

2002-04-25 Thread K Montgomery

On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 08:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The esound demon can work across the network. You need to wrap called
 applications with one of the scripts, but is otherwise transparent.
 

I left out that I am using the X-Win32 X server software from a Windows
machine in order to connect to my Linux machine.  Is esound still a
possibility to get sound from Linux to play on my Windows speakers?  If
so, where can I find documentation?

Thanks,
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[expert] Network audio

2002-04-24 Thread K Montgomery

Hi all,

I mostly use my Linux system remotely via XDMCP.  Does anyone know about
ways to play sound remotely over the network?  I've heard of the
Network Audio System.  Are there others?  Has anyone been able to get
one to work?  (FWIW, I've got Mandrake 8.2 and I mostly use Gnome.)

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] Network audio

2002-04-24 Thread kwan

On 24 Apr 2002, K Montgomery wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I mostly use my Linux system remotely via XDMCP.  Does anyone know about
 ways to play sound remotely over the network?  I've heard of the
 Network Audio System.  Are there others?  Has anyone been able to get
 one to work?  (FWIW, I've got Mandrake 8.2 and I mostly use Gnome.)
 

The esound demon can work across the network. You need to wrap called
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[expert] network connections - automatic retry

2002-04-08 Thread K Montgomery

I have a laptop that runs the netfs service on boot in order to mount a
remote Samba filesystem.  However, being a laptop, it's not always
connected to the network.

Can I make it so that if netfs fails to find the Samba server on boot,
it will attempt to connect repeatedly -- say, every 5 minutes -- in case
I do connect to the network later?  I have a little shell scripting
experience, so any suggestions involving that are welcome.

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] network connections - automatic retry

2002-04-08 Thread Dave Sherman

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 14:08, K Montgomery wrote:
 I have a laptop that runs the netfs service on boot in order to mount a
 remote Samba filesystem.  However, being a laptop, it's not always
 connected to the network.
 
 Can I make it so that if netfs fails to find the Samba server on boot,
 it will attempt to connect repeatedly -- say, every 5 minutes -- in case
 I do connect to the network later?  I have a little shell scripting
 experience, so any suggestions involving that are welcome.

Create a script which will first check for the existence of your server
and share ('smbclient -L //server', then parse the output to look for
the correct share name). Then, if the server and share exist, run
smbmount with the appropriate options to mount your samba server/share.
Then, create a cron job that will run the script every 5 minutes.

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[expert] Network problems

2002-02-16 Thread ken

Hi all,
I've run into a couple of problems the *fm's I can find don't solve.
How in 'ell do you UN configure the Internet connection sharing

#1: While trying to set up Internet connection sharing I fsck'd my local 
network e.g. NO NFS connection.. OK referring to a suggestion sent on this 
subject several weeks ago, I tried to then set up static IP addressing, Nope, 
no worky.. I don't get NFS OR connection sharing. Worse yet, now I can't even 
ping the nameserver of my IP, Dial Up Connection (216.190.159.2), so no 
Internet or email. I can ping my other computer(using local term window), the 
one I set as the dhcp server, leaving the IP address static on it. 
I'm using it to send this mail so it seems to be working OK as far as 
Internet connectivity is concerned.
#2 I though to my self, OK, if need be I'll set up SAMBA and use KOMBA2 to 
browse with. Well, Komba sees the share but as soon as it opens the file 
browser  it closes it right back down. This doesn't happen browsing a Corel 
Linux system I have set up as a file server, Komba works OK.
So as it stands right now, I don't have either Internet connection sharing or 
ANY kind of network that I can use.
My goal:
1: Intenert connection sharing over a 5 computer network(IP range from 
192.168.0.1 up, originally set up static on 192.168.10.x up). 
2: NFS networking between all of the 5 computers (all running MDK 8.1 except 
the Corel1.2 file server)
The system I want as a gateway machine is an Athalon 1.2Ghz, 512Mb RAM and a 
good 56K/bps modem. NIC is LinkSys 10/100 PCI, no problem with it.
I have a 3Com 10/100 12 port hub and a LinkSys switch being used as a hub to 
extend the distance of my short cables. Overall length is under 50 feet.
So, in total I need help figuring out how undo whatever the Wizard did OR 
get it configured right so I will have a usable network again.
Thanks,
Ken Thompson




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Re: [expert] Network problems

2002-02-16 Thread Larry Sword

ken wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I've run into a couple of problems the *fm's I can find don't solve.
 How in 'ell do you UN configure the Internet connection sharing
 
 #1: While trying to set up Internet connection sharing I fsck'd my local
 network e.g. NO NFS connection.. OK referring to a suggestion sent on this
 subject several weeks ago, I tried to then set up static IP addressing, Nope,
 no worky.. I don't get NFS OR connection sharing. Worse yet, now I can't even
 ping the nameserver of my IP, Dial Up Connection (216.190.159.2), so no
 Internet or email. I can ping my other computer(using local term window), the
 one I set as the dhcp server, leaving the IP address static on it.
 I'm using it to send this mail so it seems to be working OK as far as
 Internet connectivity is concerned.
 #2 I though to my self, OK, if need be I'll set up SAMBA and use KOMBA2 to
 browse with. Well, Komba sees the share but as soon as it opens the file
 browser  it closes it right back down. This doesn't happen browsing a Corel
 Linux system I have set up as a file server, Komba works OK.
 So as it stands right now, I don't have either Internet connection sharing or
 ANY kind of network that I can use.
 My goal:
 1: Intenert connection sharing over a 5 computer network(IP range from
 192.168.0.1 up, originally set up static on 192.168.10.x up).
 2: NFS networking between all of the 5 computers (all running MDK 8.1 except
 the Corel1.2 file server)
 The system I want as a gateway machine is an Athalon 1.2Ghz, 512Mb RAM and a
 good 56K/bps modem. NIC is LinkSys 10/100 PCI, no problem with it.
 I have a 3Com 10/100 12 port hub and a LinkSys switch being used as a hub to
 extend the distance of my short cables. Overall length is under 50 feet.
 So, in total I need help figuring out how undo whatever the Wizard did OR
 get it configured right so I will have a usable network again.
 Thanks,
 Ken Thompson

1. Recommend that you do a block diagram of the system as you wish to
configure it.

2. Review the documentation on setting up a network, Mandrake Linux
Reference Manual Chapter 15.

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Re: [expert] Network problems

2002-02-16 Thread ken

On Saturday 16 February 2002 04:47 pm, you wrote:
 ken wrote:
  Hi all,
  I've run into a couple of problems the *fm's I can find don't solve.
  How in 'ell do you UN configure the Internet connection sharing
 
  #1: While trying to set up Internet connection sharing I fsck'd my local
  network e.g. NO NFS connection.. OK referring to a suggestion sent on
  this subject several weeks ago, I tried to then set up static IP
  addressing, Nope, no worky.. I don't get NFS OR connection sharing. Worse
  yet, now I can't even ping the nameserver of my IP, Dial Up Connection
  (216.190.159.2), so no Internet or email. I can ping my other
  computer(using local term window), the one I set as the dhcp server,
  leaving the IP address static on it. I'm using it to send this mail so it
  seems to be working OK as far as Internet connectivity is concerned.
  #2 I though to my self, OK, if need be I'll set up SAMBA and use KOMBA2
  to browse with. Well, Komba sees the share but as soon as it opens the
  file browser  it closes it right back down. This doesn't happen browsing
  a Corel Linux system I have set up as a file server, Komba works OK.
  So as it stands right now, I don't have either Internet connection
  sharing or ANY kind of network that I can use.
  My goal:
  1: Intenert connection sharing over a 5 computer network(IP range from
  192.168.0.1 up, originally set up static on 192.168.10.x up).
  2: NFS networking between all of the 5 computers (all running MDK 8.1
  except the Corel1.2 file server)
  The system I want as a gateway machine is an Athalon 1.2Ghz, 512Mb RAM
  and a good 56K/bps modem. NIC is LinkSys 10/100 PCI, no problem with it.
  I have a 3Com 10/100 12 port hub and a LinkSys switch being used as a hub
  to extend the distance of my short cables. Overall length is under 50
  feet. So, in total I need help figuring out how undo whatever the
  Wizard did OR get it configured right so I will have a usable network
  again.
  Thanks,
  Ken Thompson

 1. Recommend that you do a block diagram of the system as you wish to
 configure it.

 2. Review the documentation on setting up a network, Mandrake Linux
 Reference Manual Chapter 15.

 Larry

Thanks Larry, that looks like just what I need..
FWIW I did a complete re-install on the machine in question trying to clean 
up Komba2 (it kills the file browser ONLY on other MDK machines).
Same exact problem, I can open a connection to and mount the share on my 
Corel Linux file server. The file browser opens and all is good.
I can open a connection to and mount a share on another MDK machine and the 
file browser opens and immediatly closes both windows.
On this machine everything works as advertised, any ideas
BTW static IP's on all at this point.. After fighting this thing for several 
days, I'll read a bunch before trying it again..
Nothng special about network, 4 machines connected to a 3Com 10/100 hub, an 
extra port on the hub goes to a switch used as a hub to give me 3 possible 
connections on the workbench. The ones on the workbench aren't always part of 
the network, only as needed.
Works out OK with static IP addressing. 
The problem I'm running into is trying to figure out how to set this machine 
as gateway for the rest, An Intranet, if you will..
Seems like every time I use the wizard, it makes a complete mess of my 
existing network.
Time to put on the glasses and get to work G thanks again.
Ken...



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Re: [expert] Network problems

2002-02-16 Thread Larry Sword

ken wrote:
 
 On Saturday 16 February 2002 04:47 pm, you wrote:
  ken wrote:
   Hi all,
   I've run into a couple of problems the *fm's I can find don't solve.
   How in 'ell do you UN configure the Internet connection sharing
  
   #1: While trying to set up Internet connection sharing I fsck'd my local
   network e.g. NO NFS connection.. OK referring to a suggestion sent on
   this subject several weeks ago, I tried to then set up static IP
   addressing, Nope, no worky.. I don't get NFS OR connection sharing. Worse
   yet, now I can't even ping the nameserver of my IP, Dial Up Connection
   (216.190.159.2), so no Internet or email. I can ping my other
   computer(using local term window), the one I set as the dhcp server,
   leaving the IP address static on it. I'm using it to send this mail so it
   seems to be working OK as far as Internet connectivity is concerned.
   #2 I though to my self, OK, if need be I'll set up SAMBA and use KOMBA2
   to browse with. Well, Komba sees the share but as soon as it opens the
   file browser  it closes it right back down. This doesn't happen browsing
   a Corel Linux system I have set up as a file server, Komba works OK.
   So as it stands right now, I don't have either Internet connection
   sharing or ANY kind of network that I can use.
   My goal:
   1: Intenert connection sharing over a 5 computer network(IP range from
   192.168.0.1 up, originally set up static on 192.168.10.x up).
   2: NFS networking between all of the 5 computers (all running MDK 8.1
   except the Corel1.2 file server)
   The system I want as a gateway machine is an Athalon 1.2Ghz, 512Mb RAM
   and a good 56K/bps modem. NIC is LinkSys 10/100 PCI, no problem with it.
   I have a 3Com 10/100 12 port hub and a LinkSys switch being used as a hub
   to extend the distance of my short cables. Overall length is under 50
   feet. So, in total I need help figuring out how undo whatever the
   Wizard did OR get it configured right so I will have a usable network
   again.
   Thanks,
   Ken Thompson
 
  1. Recommend that you do a block diagram of the system as you wish to
  configure it.
 
  2. Review the documentation on setting up a network, Mandrake Linux
  Reference Manual Chapter 15.
 
  Larry
 
 Thanks Larry, that looks like just what I need..
 FWIW I did a complete re-install on the machine in question trying to clean
 up Komba2 (it kills the file browser ONLY on other MDK machines).
 Same exact problem, I can open a connection to and mount the share on my
 Corel Linux file server. The file browser opens and all is good.
 I can open a connection to and mount a share on another MDK machine and the
 file browser opens and immediatly closes both windows.
 On this machine everything works as advertised, any ideas
 BTW static IP's on all at this point.. After fighting this thing for several
 days, I'll read a bunch before trying it again..
 Nothng special about network, 4 machines connected to a 3Com 10/100 hub, an
 extra port on the hub goes to a switch used as a hub to give me 3 possible
 connections on the workbench. The ones on the workbench aren't always part of
 the network, only as needed.
 Works out OK with static IP addressing.
 The problem I'm running into is trying to figure out how to set this machine
 as gateway for the rest, An Intranet, if you will..
 Seems like every time I use the wizard, it makes a complete mess of my
 existing network.
 Time to put on the glasses and get to work G thanks again.
 Ken...

On the gateway machine, the one attached to the internet, is the router?
Whatever address this network card, the one that is connected to the hub
will be the gateway for all the other computers. So on the other
computers simple point then to this address as the gateway. Say the
address of the router is 192.1268.1.1, then this is the address of the
gateway that they would point to. Also on the computer use as the router
gateway insure that /etc/sysconfig/network has NETWORKING=yes and
FORWARD_IP4=true.

You may wish to add the other computers address and names in the
/etc/hosts file.

As for Komba2 you might try adding under the setting configure the range
of ip's to scan.  You may need to set the passwords up first. Also try
pinging from and to each machine.

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Re: [expert] Network printer under attack

2002-01-29 Thread J. Craig Woods

At 08:12 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, Stephen Boulet wrote:
Jobs are being sent to my printer (HP LaserJet 2100TN with built-in
ethernet), which keeps printing until all the paper is gone.

At the head of the sheet that gets repeatedly printed is: POST / HTTP/1.1.

Here is a tail from my /var/log/cups:

192.168.1.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:49 -0600] GET /ppd/laser.ppd HTTP/1.1
200 22901
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 200 77
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1 200 77
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 200 77
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1 200 114
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST / HTTP/1.1 200 202
192.168.1.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] GET /ppd/laser.ppd HTTP/1.1
200 22901

It looks like my box is expecting something from the printer and sending it
requests. Anyone know what's going on? Thanks.

-- Stephen

Whoa, isn't your 'var/log/cups a directory, or at least it should be? 
Where is your error log for cups? It is usually a file named error_log in 
a directory name /var/log/cups The tail your gave us above looks like 
standard output from the access_log file that should be in the same cups 
directory. For some reason you printer is receiving this output as print 
jobs. Might want to check your config files in /etc/cups What version of 
cups and Linux are you running?


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[expert] Network printer under attack

2002-01-28 Thread Stephen Boulet

Jobs are being sent to my printer (HP LaserJet 2100TN with built-in 
ethernet), which keeps printing until all the paper is gone. 

At the head of the sheet that gets repeatedly printed is: POST / HTTP/1.1.

Here is a tail from my /var/log/cups:

192.168.1.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:49 -0600] GET /ppd/laser.ppd HTTP/1.1 
200 22901
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 200 77
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1 200 77
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 200 77
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1 200 114
127.0.0.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] POST / HTTP/1.1 200 202
192.168.1.1 - - [20/Jan/2002:23:09:51 -0600] GET /ppd/laser.ppd HTTP/1.1 
200 22901

It looks like my box is expecting something from the printer and sending it 
requests. Anyone know what's going on? Thanks.

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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-09 Thread Ken Thompson

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 11:49 pm, you wrote:
 Ric Tibbetts wrote:
Content snipped
 Just for the record: I still get stuck from time to time too, and bring
 my questions here. It's a great forum! I just personally feel that any
 question starting with, or containing the phrase:

 When I click on the GUI . . .

 should be in the newbie list. This is an expert list. We should all
 know how to run linux without a gui.

 JMHO
Just a refresher , I DIDN'T ask how to configure my network, it's configured 
and working fine. I asked about what I percieved to be a lacking feature in 
Mandrake Control Center.
I am quite capable of configuring most things using the hard core command 
line and vi, IF I NEED TO! In fact, my file server has NO Graphical desk 
top features at all, totally CLI.
How ever, as I mentioned before, a good GUI interface will generally speed 
the process up and also make Linux much more paletable to those wishing to 
convert from Windows, including some very EXPERT windows users and sys admins.
I would still like to know if the ability to add exports and mounts is hidden 
in or missing from the Mandrake Control Center.
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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-09 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Ken Thompson wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 08 January 2002 11:49 pm, you wrote:
  Ric Tibbetts wrote:
 Content snipped
  Just for the record: I still get stuck from time to time too, and bring
  my questions here. It's a great forum! I just personally feel that any
  question starting with, or containing the phrase:
 
  When I click on the GUI . . .
 
  should be in the newbie list. This is an expert list. We should all
  know how to run linux without a gui.
 
  JMHO
 Just a refresher , I DIDN'T ask how to configure my network, it's configured
 and working fine. I asked about what I percieved to be a lacking feature in
 Mandrake Control Center.
 I am quite capable of configuring most things using the hard core command
 line and vi, IF I NEED TO! In fact, my file server has NO Graphical desk
 top features at all, totally CLI.
 How ever, as I mentioned before, a good GUI interface will generally speed
 the process up and also make Linux much more paletable to those wishing to
 convert from Windows, including some very EXPERT windows users and sys admins.
 I would still like to know if the ability to add exports and mounts is hidden
 in or missing from the Mandrake Control Center.

To answer your original question:
I am not aware of a way in MCC to add NFS control.
Nor is there a way to do NIS configuration, DNS configuration, Sendmail
(or postfix) configuration, nor add user accounts, or samba
configuration, etc...

I think MCC is a good begining on a systems administration tool, but it
has a way to go. Much is missing from it so far. But as I understand it,
MCC is a work in progress, and new features are being added all the time
(but then I cannot speak for the folks at Mandrake as to what they
consider suitable content for MCC).

In it's favor, when yo do use it, it seems to do less damage than
linuxconf used to! :) I like what they've done so far, it shows great
promise.

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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-09 Thread Ken Thompson

much snipping
 To answer your original question:
 I am not aware of a way in MCC to add NFS control.
 Nor is there a way to do NIS configuration, DNS configuration, Sendmail
 (or postfix) configuration, nor add user accounts, or samba
 configuration, etc...

 I think MCC is a good begining on a systems administration tool, but it
 has a way to go. Much is missing from it so far. But as I understand it,
 MCC is a work in progress, and new features are being added all the time
 (but then I cannot speak for the folks at Mandrake as to what they
 consider suitable content for MCC).

 In it's favor, when yo do use it, it seems to do less damage than
 linuxconf used to! :) I like what they've done so far, it shows great
 promise.

Thanks Rick, for a while I thought I'd not had enough coffeeG...
-- 
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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-09 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Ken Thompson wrote:
 
 much snipping
  To answer your original question:
  I am not aware of a way in MCC to add NFS control.
  Nor is there a way to do NIS configuration, DNS configuration, Sendmail
  (or postfix) configuration, nor add user accounts, or samba
  configuration, etc...
 
  I think MCC is a good begining on a systems administration tool, but it
  has a way to go. Much is missing from it so far. But as I understand it,
  MCC is a work in progress, and new features are being added all the time
  (but then I cannot speak for the folks at Mandrake as to what they
  consider suitable content for MCC).
 
  In it's favor, when yo do use it, it seems to do less damage than
  linuxconf used to! :) I like what they've done so far, it shows great
  promise.
 
 Thanks Rick, for a while I thought I'd not had enough coffeeG...

LOL!
Nah, I'd just had a cup or two to many this morning. ;)

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[expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Ken Thompson

Am I missing something???
I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other 
computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to 
remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting.
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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Ken Thompson wrote:
 
 Am I missing something???
 I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other
 computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to
 remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting.

Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of
/etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab)
for mounting them.
Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs.  ;)

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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread J. Craig Woods

At 11:41 AM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Ken Thompson wrote:
 
  Am I missing something???
  I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other
  computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to
  remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting.

Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of
/etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab)
for mounting them.
Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs.  ;)

--
Ric Tibbetts
Unix Systems Administration

Amen brother! This is good advise, and, not to be forgotten, while you are 
at it, do a man on exportfs.

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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Ken Thompson

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 03:10 pm, you wrote:
 At 11:41 AM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Ken Thompson wrote:
   Am I missing something???
   I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other
   computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem
   to remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting.
 
 Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of
 /etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab)
 for mounting them.
 Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs.  ;)
 
 --
 Ric Tibbetts
 Unix Systems Administration

 Amen brother! This is good advise, and, not to be forgotten, while you are
 at it, do a man on exportfs.

 J. Craig Woods
 UNIX/NT SA
 -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-

I DO work with the Exports, FSTAB, HOSTS and etc, but was thinking of 
those that are new to Linux.
If Linux is ever going to make it as a viable desktop O/S for the masses it's 
going to have to have GUI tools.
To a purist, I suppose a GUI is silly but to the majority of the people 
they're not. I came up through the Commodore 64 to XT to 286  etc but was 
always looking for an easier way to do things. For better or worse, most 
people in this  world are visual orientated.. That's major reason for M$'s 
success... Easy to use GUI computing..
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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread J. Craig Woods

At 04:08 PM 1/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I DO work with the Exports, FSTAB, HOSTS and etc, but was thinking of
those that are new to Linux.
If Linux is ever going to make it as a viable desktop O/S for the masses it's
going to have to have GUI tools.
To a purist, I suppose a GUI is silly but to the majority of the people
they're not. I came up through the Commodore 64 to XT to 286  etc but was
always looking for an easier way to do things. For better or worse, most
people in this  world are visual orientated.. That's major reason for M$'s
success... Easy to use GUI computing..
--

Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions, 
questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at 
least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list.

Thanks,

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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Ken Thompson

 Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions,
 questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at
 least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list.

 Thanks,

 J. Craig Woods
 UNIX/NT SA
 -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-

 OK, but the original question was never answered. AND it IS about Mandrake, 
and using Mandrake with the tools provided.
While reading the Experts List I see many refernces to the MCC, so people 
are using the tools (including some of the staff).

 Mainly I was asking if something had been forgotten in the MCC for the 
Network Setup Wizard.. If not, what did I miss?? I just went through it again 
and still see no way to complete the network by mounting other file systems 
or exporting this one.

 I need to have some confidence in the MCC if I'm to set up different things 
like DSL, ISDN Networking  etc. To try to configure all the areas by hand is 
niether time nor cost effective on a service call @$50.00 per hr.
Things are also changing in the way the config files are stored/read, an 
example would be the resolve.conf, one under /etc and one in /etc/ppp, OK, 
which one should be used?? I suppose at home I could (and did) try each one 
to figure out which got read first but in the field it's not my time I'm 
wasting.
I'm not trying to start a flame war, I just want to know the Mandrake release 
I use better.
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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Leone

On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 18:18, J. Craig Woods wrote:
 
 Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions, 
 questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at 
 least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list.

It's the experts who make the GUIs for the beginners. And this might be
one way for the experts to learn what newbies want/need.


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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Michael Leone wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 18:18, J. Craig Woods wrote:
 
  Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions,
  questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at
  least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list.
 
 It's the experts who make the GUIs for the beginners. And this might be
 one way for the experts to learn what newbies want/need.

Most of those experts also watch the newbie list.
Probably the best place for newbie questions, is on the newbie list. 

JMHO

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Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.

2002-01-08 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Ric Tibbetts wrote:
 
 Ken Thompson wrote:
 
  Am I missing something???
  I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other
  computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to
  remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting.
 
 Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of
 /etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab)
 for mounting them.
 Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs.  ;)

PS:
Just for the record: I still get stuck from time to time too, and bring
my questions here. It's a great forum! I just personally feel that any
question starting with, or containing the phrase: 

When I click on the GUI . . .

should be in the newbie list. This is an expert list. We should all
know how to run linux without a gui.

JMHO

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[expert] network/internet stalls

2002-01-06 Thread ajax

I've just set up my network with a pentium 200mmx running as my 
gateway/router/printserver/mailserver.  I'm having problems when trying to 
download large files.  The download stalls.  It doesn't seem to be at the 
same point everytime.  I also have problems losing a connection while playing 
games.  I have a cable internet connection and I am running mandrake 8.1.
Any ideas on how to hunt this down.  
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Re: [expert] network starting scripts

2001-12-29 Thread nds

ForeveR wrote:

Is it too cpmplicated question??
Hej somebody from Mandrake please reply

I sent following w/o any response few days ago can somobedy read it and 
help if possible?

Thanks in advance

Problem I have encountered was generated by new kernel (no matter which
one - everyone) when I'm downloading the new kernels (offical one from
www.kernel.org) than the network script on system startup fails already
on 'lo' interface with comment address familly not supported by kernel
which is strange because:

1. Never seen before... (mandrake 7.0)
2. When after trying to start all interfaces by hand with command:
ifconfig if name  up IP it starts w/o problems and any error
message...

The same problem I have with new Red Hat distro...
Again it is not a kernel conf problem cause I do it with the same way
(for the network setting) for the years now...

Any suggestion???





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Re: [expert] network starting scripts

2001-12-22 Thread ForeveR

Is it too cpmplicated question??
Hej somebody from Mandrake please reply

 I sent following w/o any response few days ago can somobedy read it and 
 help if possible?

 Thanks in advance

  Problem I have encountered was generated by new kernel (no matter which
  one - everyone) when I'm downloading the new kernels (offical one from
  www.kernel.org) than the network script on system startup fails already
  on 'lo' interface with comment address familly not supported by kernel
  which is strange because:
 
  1. Never seen before... (mandrake 7.0)
  2. When after trying to start all interfaces by hand with command:
  ifconfig if name  up IP it starts w/o problems and any error
  message...
 
  The same problem I have with new Red Hat distro...
  Again it is not a kernel conf problem cause I do it with the same way
  (for the network setting) for the years now...
 
  Any suggestion???

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Re: [expert] network starting scripts

2001-12-15 Thread ForeveR

I sent following w/o any response few days ago can somobedy read it and  help 
if possible?

Thanks in advance


 Problem I have encountered was generated by new kernel (no matter which one
 - everyone) when I'm downloading the new kernels (offical one from
 www.kernel.org) than the network script on system startup fails already on
 'lo' interface with comment address familly not supported by kernel which
 is strange because:

 1. Never seen before... (mandrake 7.0)
 2. When after trying to start all interfaces by hand with command:
 ifconfig if name  up IP it starts w/o problems and any error
 message...

 The same problem I have with new Red Hat distro...
 Again it is not a kernel conf problem cause I do it with the same way (for
 the network setting) for the years now...

 Any suggestion???

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[expert] network starting scripts.

2001-12-13 Thread ForeveR

Problem I have encountered was generated by new kernel (no matter which one - 
everyone) when I'm downloading the new kernels (offical one from 
www.kernel.org) than the network script on system startup fails already on 
'lo' interface with comment address familly not supported by kernel which 
is strange because:

1. Never seen before... (mandrake 7.0)
2. When after trying to start all interfaces by hand with command:
ifconfig if name  up IP it starts w/o problems and any error message...

The same problem I have with new Red Hat distro... 
Again it is not a kernel conf problem cause I do it with the same way (for 
the network setting) for the years now...

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[expert] Network-unreachable solved

2001-12-06 Thread William Bouterse

I am posting this as a thank you and follow-up;
With the history of the original thread.

After trying it all once again I ended up swapping out an
old WD card from another machine and yes IT ALL started to work!!!

However swapping out the old vibra 16 sound card for an old
but trusty SB 32 AWE card saw the network go unreachable again,
which led me to the hint by civileme re: sound card IRQ.
Lucky for me the ISA WD NIC card had configurable jumpers
and a little tweak did the trick.



Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] write:

Could you post the output of 'ifconfig' and 'route -n'?

Bill Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you installed/enabled a firewall?  Check
 /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.conf and the Drak firewall tools .  For
 me, running tinyfirewall (Drak tools)  set up masquerading through the
 box, but prevented any connection to the box at all.

civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What IRQ is it on?
cat /etc/sysconfig/network*
cat /etc/resolv.conf...
then later...

what else is on IRQ5? Sound Blaster perhaps?



Thanks for the rapid response !!!

No firewall on this unit. Being on a small home network
with a firewal/server being in place I went for the
welcome to crackers configuration  to try and KISS but
of course it fooled me !

ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:05:E3:39:94  
  inet addr:192.168.0.12  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:6 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0b)  TX bytes:780 (700.0 b)

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:105 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:105 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:7700 (7.5 Kb)  TX bytes:7700 (7.5 Kb)



[root@home233]# route -n (The non-working client machine)
Kernel IP routing table
DestinationGatewayGenmaskFlags Metric RefUseIface
192.168.0.00.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0  U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0   192.168.0.100.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0


[root@home2]# route -n  (The working client machine)
Kernel IP routing table
DestinationGatewayGenmaskFlags Metric RefUseIface
192.168.0.00.0.0.0255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0  U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0   192.168.0.100.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

/etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4=false
HOSTNAME=home2.suslositna.org
DOMAINNAME=suslositna.org
GATEWAY=192.168.0.10
GATEWAYDEV=eth0
(this is exactly the same as the working client machine!)

/etc/resolv.conf
search mtaonline.net
nameserver 12.6.42.1 
nameserver 12.6.42.2
(exactly the same as working client machine)


Thanks again people for the help!!!


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[expert] network problems with kernel 2.4.16

2001-12-04 Thread Octavi Fors

Hi everybody,

After succesfully installing Mandrake 8.1 on my PII 333MHz, and checking
everything was running allright (network included), I decided to download
kernel 2.4.16 sources for compiling it on my own.

Compilation and installation session run without apparent problems. It was
on booting sessions when I came across network failed. In particular, it
seems that although network interface eth0 is brought up succesfully, this
cannot be assigned to the IP address specified by me. I'm attaching the
corresponding tail of /var/log/messages file (some of lines are in
Spanish, but the ones concerning network failure are in English):

Dec  4 09:14:06 gaback date: dt dec  4 09:14:06 CET 2001 
Dec  4 09:14:06 gaback rc.sysinit: Setting clock  (localtime): dt dec  4 09:14:06 CET 
2001 succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:06 gaback rc.sysinit: Loading default keymap succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:06 gaback rc.sysinit: Activando partición de intercambio:  succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:06 gaback rc.sysinit: Setting hostname gaback.ges.ub.es:  succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:06 gaback fsck: /dev/hda6: clean, 87611/480960 files, 317508/961884 
blocks 
Dec  4 09:14:07 gaback rc.sysinit: Remontando sistema de archivos raíz en modo de 
lectura y escritura:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:07 gaback rc.sysinit: Encontrando dependencias de los módulos:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:08 gaback rc.sysinit: Montando los sistemas de archivos locales:  
succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:08 gaback rc.sysinit: Montando sistema de archivos loopback:  succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:08 gaback devfsd[85]: read config file: /etc/devfsd.conf  
dec  4 09:14:08 gaback rc.sysinit: Running devfsd actions:  succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:09 gaback loadkeys: Loading 
/usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/es-latin1.kmap.gz 
dec  4 09:14:09 gaback keytable: Loading keymap: es-latin1 succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:09 gaback loadkeys: Loading 
/usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/include/compose.latin9.inc.gz 
dec  4 09:14:09 gaback keytable: Loading compose keys: compose.latin9.inc succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:10 gaback keytable:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:12 gaback rc.sysinit: Habilitando espacio de intercambio:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:14 gaback mandrake_everytime: Building Window Manager Sessions succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth1 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth2 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth3 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth4 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth5 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth6 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth7 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth8 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth9 
Dec  4 09:14:14 gaback devfsd[85]: error calling: unlink in GLOBAL  
Dec  4 09:14:15 gaback init: Entering runlevel: 3 
Dec  4 09:14:15 gaback devfsd[85]: error calling: unlink in GLOBAL  27Dec  4 
09:14:15 devfsd[85]: error calling: unlink in GLOBAL 
dec  4 09:14:15 gaback usb: Loading USB interface0 (usb-uhci) succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:16 gaback network: Configurando parámetros de red:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:16 gaback ifup: Cannot send dump request: Connection refused 
dec  4 09:14:16 gaback network: Activando la interfaz lo:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:17 gaback ifup: Cannot send dump request: Connection refused 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback ifup: Cannot send dump request: Connection refused 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback ifup: Error adding address 161.116.228.150 for eth0. 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback ifup: Cannot send dump request: Connection refused 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback ifup: bind: Cannot assign requested address 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback ifup: Cannot send dump request: Connection refused 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback ifup: Cannot talk to rtnetlink: Connection refused 
dec  4 09:14:19 gaback network: Bringing up interface eth0:  succeeded 
dec  4 09:14:20 gaback internet: Checking internet connections to start at boot 
succeeded 
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: Service ftp: attribute already set: disable 
[line=16]
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: chargen disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: chargen-udp disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: printer disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: cvspserver disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: daytime disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: daytime-udp disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: echo disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: echo-udp disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: linuxconf disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: ftp disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: rsync disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: time disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback xinetd[857]: time disabled, removing
Dec  4 09:14:23 gaback 

[expert] Network problems

2001-12-01 Thread Syed Irfan

hi

i have 2 computers connected to each other via a 5 port hub, i can ssh
to the other machine and vise versa withouth any problems but if i try
to transfer any file with about 1 or more mb 
tail -f /var/log/messages gives me


Dec  1 23:34:24 Main sshd:  succeeded
Dec  1 23:34:45 Main sshd(pam_unix)[1348]: session opened for user imran
by (uid=0)
Dec  1 23:34:51 Main kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Dec  1 23:35:23 Main last message repeated 4 times

after that i have to kill the ssh session and have to restart the
network only then i can ping the other pc

is it a problem of the hub ? its a surecom etherperfect 505st
if i connect the 2 computers using a cross over cable it never happens

the first machine has a 10/100base T Linksys, the other one is sis 900
10/100Ethernet card

network locks up on the machine with Linksys always

suggessions/need help on how can i be sure if its the hub or the linksys
card?

another thing, if i start the network at boot time i mean lo and eth0
then login on the desktop and start pppd then when i start the browser
it says url not found, i cant ping any outside websites or any thing.i
think its routing through the eth0 instead of the modem, how to change
this ?

thankyou very much
crazycrusoe
 



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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Pierre Fortin

Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 It would help Wolfgang if you could send the routing table on both machines !

From Wolfgang's *first* post:
 Desktop:
 217.5.98.14   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.255 UH   0   0 0 ppp0
 10.0.0.00.0.0.0   255.255.255.0 U 0   0 0 eth0
 192.168.0.0   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0 U 0   0 0 eth1
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0  255.0.0.0 U 0   0 0 lo
 0.0.0.0   217.5.98.140.0.0.0   UG   0   0 0 ppp0
 Notebook:
 192.168.0.0   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0 U 0   0 0 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0   255.0.0.0U 0   0 0 lo
 0.0.0.0   192.168.0.10.0.0.0   UG   0   0 0 eth0

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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Pierre Fortin

Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:

[snip]

I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfgang on the list of things to verify...

Until a ping -br broadcast which bypasses the routing table actually makes
it to the other machine (basic connectivity), routing tables changes are not
going to help (unless the network code is buggy).

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RE: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bown (QMW)

Not so sure on that Pierre, it will get a reply from what it can see,
bypassing the routing table will only get a ping back from the first device.
if 100 machines are connected to the port and the port has the same address as the host
then all hell breaks loose, but if the host address is different from the port 
address, 
only the port responds, because the host dos'nt know whats the otherside of the port 
unless its told.. 
ie. the routing table

richard

-Original Message-
From: Pierre Fortin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Network problem


Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:

[snip]

I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfgang on the list of things to verify...

Until a ping -br broadcast which bypasses the routing table actually makes
it to the other machine (basic connectivity), routing tables changes are not
going to help (unless the network code is buggy).

Cheers,
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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

Am Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 17:22 schrieben Sie:
 Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:

 [snip]

 I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfgang on the list of things to
 verify...

 Until a ping -br broadcast which bypasses the routing table
 actually makes it to the other machine (basic connectivity),
 routing tables changes are not going to help (unless the network
 code is buggy).

That's the point. Unless I can get a connection from notebook to 
desktop I don't bother about routes.
I ripped off the NIC which was configured as eth1 b/c it was a n old 
ISA card and I mistrust them. Also the MCC kept saying You only have 
one NIC although both showed up in the network section as up. So 
much to the gui tools.

Right now I got a cheap NIC called Netgear FA311 Fast Ethernet PCI 
Card. Problem is, it comes with Linux drivers (!) but only for Red 
Hat 6.x and the given files will not compile b/c the makefile is 
counting on kgcc. Duh... So I cannot build the module.

Harddrake doesn't know it, it says it's a NAtional Semiconductor 
Product and that it is unknown

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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

OK, I'm answering to my own mail b/c there's an update:

 Right now I got a cheap NIC called Netgear FA311 Fast Ethernet PCI
 Card. Problem is, it comes with Linux drivers (!) but only for Red
 Hat 6.x and the given files will not compile b/c the makefile is
 counting on kgcc. Duh... So I cannot build the module.

 Harddrake doesn't know it, it says it's a NAtional Semiconductor
 Product and that it is unknown

Through google I found the hint to use the natsemi module and it 
works. I have a working connection between notebook and desktop!
Seems that the old card did work on a different pc but not in mine.

Anyhow, I can ping either machine from the other. Now I'm working on 
everything else (firewall, routing, etc.).

Thanks a lot to everybody (Pierre et al) who went out of their way to 
help me.

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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Pierre Fortin

Correct...  that was already covered in a previous post...  the problem right
now is to get *any* packet over the wire between the desktop/laptop...  so far,
nothing...  

And replacing a cable with a new one is no guarantee...  if it was, I'd never
have chased many problems where the cables were replaced 5+ times before finding
one that worked...  in another situation, ALL N-hundred cables were manufactured
wrong...  which is why one can *never* assume something is right/wrong until the
problem has actually been *fixed*...  :^)

Pierre

Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:
 
 Not so sure on that Pierre, it will get a reply from what it can see,
 bypassing the routing table will only get a ping back from the first device.
 if 100 machines are connected to the port and the port has the same address as the 
host
 then all hell breaks loose, but if the host address is different from the port 
address,
 only the port responds, because the host dos'nt know whats the otherside of the port 
unless its told..
 ie. the routing table
 
 richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre Fortin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Network problem
 
 Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfgang on the list of things to verify...
 
 Until a ping -br broadcast which bypasses the routing table actually makes
 it to the other machine (basic connectivity), routing tables changes are not
 going to help (unless the network code is buggy).
 
 Cheers,
 Pierre
 
   
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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Asheesh Laroia

I think you can use that netgear card via the tulip driver.

-- Asheesh.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 17:22 schrieben Sie:
  Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:
 
  [snip]

  I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfgang on the list of things to
  verify...
 
  Until a ping -br broadcast which bypasses the routing table
  actually makes it to the other machine (basic connectivity),
  routing tables changes are not going to help (unless the network
  code is buggy).

 That's the point. Unless I can get a connection from notebook to
 desktop I don't bother about routes.
 I ripped off the NIC which was configured as eth1 b/c it was a n old
 ISA card and I mistrust them. Also the MCC kept saying You only have
 one NIC although both showed up in the network section as up. So
 much to the gui tools.

 Right now I got a cheap NIC called Netgear FA311 Fast Ethernet PCI
 Card. Problem is, it comes with Linux drivers (!) but only for Red
 Hat 6.x and the given files will not compile b/c the makefile is
 counting on kgcc. Duh... So I cannot build the module.

 Harddrake doesn't know it, it says it's a NAtional Semiconductor
 Product and that it is unknown

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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 15:52 -0500, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
 I think you can use that netgear card via the tulip driver.
 
 -- Asheesh.

No, actually it's the natsemi.o (National Semiconductor).
I use it and everything works and I'm a happy camper after all :)

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RE: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Bown (QMW)

Ok Pierre if I remember right he said it was working with a previous version of mdk,
so thats a config prob, and as he wont ack the fact that if the port has a different 
address to the host
you have to route to everything the other sidewell just wasting my time.
luckily I never moved away from 50 ohm cable linking between pc's just as well as 
apart from 2 ports all
have radios on the end !
cya

-Original Message-
From: Pierre Fortin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Network problem


Correct...  that was already covered in a previous post...  the problem right
now is to get *any* packet over the wire between the desktop/laptop...  so far,
nothing...  

And replacing a cable with a new one is no guarantee...  if it was, I'd never
have chased many problems where the cables were replaced 5+ times before finding
one that worked...  in another situation, ALL N-hundred cables were manufactured
wrong...  which is why one can *never* assume something is right/wrong until the
problem has actually been *fixed*...  :^)

Pierre

Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:
 
 Not so sure on that Pierre, it will get a reply from what it can see,
 bypassing the routing table will only get a ping back from the first device.
 if 100 machines are connected to the port and the port has the same address as the 
host
 then all hell breaks loose, but if the host address is different from the port 
address,
 only the port responds, because the host dos'nt know whats the otherside of the port 
unless its told..
 ie. the routing table
 
 richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre Fortin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Network problem
 
 Richard Bown (QMW) wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfgang on the list of things to verify...
 
 Until a ping -br broadcast which bypasses the routing table actually makes
 it to the other machine (basic connectivity), routing tables changes are not
 going to help (unless the network code is buggy).
 
 Cheers,
 Pierre
 
   
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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

Am Dienstag, 27. November 2001 02:47 schrieb Pierre:
 PS:  Here's one of my old .signature files:
  Until you've found *and* fixed a problem, you can NOT discount
  *any* possibility; what you gratuitously discount will likely be
  the source of the problem(s). Pierre Fortin - 1990

 That was the result of *many* situations where people insisted it
 can't be X, or it *has* to be Y...   By persuing the problems
 logically, you will generally arrive at the most likely root cause;
 BUT, until you've fixed it, there is still no guarantee the logical
 answer is the right one...

Yes there is a lot of SHerlock Holmes in it ;)

OK, I've spent another 3 hours, even reinstalling the whole desktop 
pc. It was a fresh installation anyway.

I bought a new cross-over cable. I borrowed 2 other NICs from my 
company,

Once again:

Desktop has:

eth0 10.0.0.10 which goes through ppp0 to the dsl modem.
eth1  192.168.0.1
Io 127.0.0.1

eth0 can ping the Internet, and ping both other devices
eth1 can ping both other devices
both ethx can ping themselves

Notebook has:

eth0  192.168.0.2
Io   127.0.0.1

eth0 can ping Io and ping itself

But:

Notebook cannot reach any other destination apart from own eth0 and 
own Io

Desktop cannot reach neither notebook address.

BTW: Firewall is absolutely off and security is set to cracker's 
delight on both machines. I'm not yet bothering about internet 
access sharing and forewarding and masquerading, I'm just trying to 
get both machines to see each other. Oh, it has nothing to do that 
the two screens are pointing in different directions, has it? ;-))

BTW: I had everything running with a 8.o installation with the same 
hardware!

No  more ideas.



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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Sherman

On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 09:12, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 OK, I've spent another 3 hours, even reinstalling the whole desktop 
 pc. It was a fresh installation anyway.
 
 I bought a new cross-over cable. I borrowed 2 other NICs from my 
 company,
 
 Once again:
 
 Desktop has:
 
 eth0 10.0.0.10 which goes through ppp0 to the dsl modem.
 eth1  192.168.0.1
 Io 127.0.0.1
 
 eth0 can ping the Internet, and ping both other devices
 eth1 can ping both other devices
 both ethx can ping themselves
 
 Notebook has:
 
 eth0  192.168.0.2
 Io   127.0.0.1
 
 eth0 can ping Io and ping itself
 
 But:
 
 Notebook cannot reach any other destination apart from own eth0 and 
 own Io
 
 Desktop cannot reach neither notebook address.
 
 BTW: Firewall is absolutely off and security is set to cracker's 
 delight on both machines. I'm not yet bothering about internet 
 access sharing and forewarding and masquerading, I'm just trying to 
 get both machines to see each other. Oh, it has nothing to do that 
 the two screens are pointing in different directions, has it? ;-))
 
 BTW: I had everything running with a 8.o installation with the same 
 hardware!
 
 No  more ideas.

I'm running out of ideas, too. But here's a couple more:

1. I know you tested your laptop connected directly to the adsl modem
and it worked before. Have you done so this time, and does it work?

2. Have you tried connecting the two PCs with a hub and CAT-5 patch
cables?

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RE: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Richard Bown (QMW)

try typing in as root route add -host 192.168.0.1 eth0 on the notebook, check the 
routing table and netmask on each machine. if the netmask s wrong you can get some 
very strange effects.
you can check if this is the problem by changing the ip address of the notebook , say 
to 10.0.1.2
put a route in from the main pc route add -host 10.0.1.2 ethx where x is the port 
linked to the notebook.
and on the note book  route add -host 192.168.0.1 eth0
flush out any other routing just to test everything.
If that works in both directions , change back to the domain of your choice and look 
very carefully at the 
netmasks on both machines.
you can delete unwanted routes from the command line 
route del -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 eth1, thats just an example , again 
make sure the netmasks are correct.
if you check everything out from the console command line , none of the permant 
routing will be lost, just what you type in , if you reboot
HTH richard


-Original Message-
From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Network problem


Am Dienstag, 27. November 2001 02:47 schrieb Pierre:
 PS:  Here's one of my old .signature files:
  Until you've found *and* fixed a problem, you can NOT discount
  *any* possibility; what you gratuitously discount will likely be
  the source of the problem(s). Pierre Fortin - 1990

 That was the result of *many* situations where people insisted it
 can't be X, or it *has* to be Y...   By persuing the problems
 logically, you will generally arrive at the most likely root cause;
 BUT, until you've fixed it, there is still no guarantee the logical
 answer is the right one...

Yes there is a lot of SHerlock Holmes in it ;)

OK, I've spent another 3 hours, even reinstalling the whole desktop 
pc. It was a fresh installation anyway.

I bought a new cross-over cable. I borrowed 2 other NICs from my 
company,

Once again:

Desktop has:

eth0 10.0.0.10 which goes through ppp0 to the dsl modem.
eth1  192.168.0.1
Io 127.0.0.1

eth0 can ping the Internet, and ping both other devices
eth1 can ping both other devices
both ethx can ping themselves

Notebook has:

eth0  192.168.0.2
Io   127.0.0.1

eth0 can ping Io and ping itself

But:

Notebook cannot reach any other destination apart from own eth0 and 
own Io

Desktop cannot reach neither notebook address.

BTW: Firewall is absolutely off and security is set to cracker's 
delight on both machines. I'm not yet bothering about internet 
access sharing and forewarding and masquerading, I'm just trying to 
get both machines to see each other. Oh, it has nothing to do that 
the two screens are pointing in different directions, has it? ;-))

BTW: I had everything running with a 8.o installation with the same 
hardware!

No  more ideas.




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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Pierre Fortin

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 
 Notebook cannot reach any other destination apart from own eth0 and
 own Io
 
 Desktop cannot reach neither notebook address.

OK...  give us the results of:

  ping -br 255.255.255.255
  ping -br 192.168.0.255

on both machines.  If it works, you may something like this (from my net):

$ ping -br  255.255.255.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 255.255.255.255 (255.255.255.255) from 192.168.1.100 : 56(84) bytes of
data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=131 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.1.101: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=525 usec (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.1.102: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=673 usec (DUP!)

$ ping -br 192.168.1.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 192.168.1.255 (192.168.1.255) from 192.168.1.100 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=134 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.1.101: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=550 usec (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=150 time=554 usec (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.1.102: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=718 usec (DUP!)

The above indicates that my LinkSys firewall (192.168.1.1) responds to net
broadcasts; but not wire broadcasts.  The point is that these will try to elicit
a response from everyone on the wire, including self.

If these pings don't work, then you'll have to figure out what is wrong
physically (cable, NICs, IRQs, IOs, ...) before proceeding.  If you get
responses to these broadcast pings, then do:

  /sbin/arp -a

on both machines.  Should look something like this:
$ /sbin/arp -a
r41 (192.168.1.1) at 00:20:78:C9:E1:1A [ether] on eth0
homer (192.168.1.102) at 08:00:5A:38:6C:1B [ether] on eth0
woody (192.168.1.101) at 00:01:02:E8:D7:9F [ether] on eth0
 ^ (MAC address)
Make sure the hardware MAC addresses match what the other machine's ifconfig is
telling you.  I don't expect this to be a problem; but I'd hate to see you chase
this for days only to find a bad NIC card which can only be checked from an
adjacent machine (what the system *thinks* it's sending vs what actually goes
out over the wire).

HTH,
Pierre



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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

Am Dienstag, 27. November 2001 15:45 schrieb Dave:
 On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 09:12, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  OK, I've spent another 3 hours, even reinstalling the whole
  desktop pc. It was a fresh installation anyway.
 
  I bought a new cross-over cable. I borrowed 2 other NICs from my
  company,

 I'm running out of ideas, too. But here's a couple more:

 1. I know you tested your laptop connected directly to the adsl
 modem and it worked before. Have you done so this time, and does it
 work?

Yes, and I did not change anything at the notebook, hardwareside.

 2. Have you tried connecting the two PCs with a hub and CAT-5 patch
 cables?

No, Don't have a hub, nor anyone I know of.

wobo



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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

Am Dienstag, 27. November 2001 17:12 schrieben Sie:
 OK...  give us the results of:

   ping -br 255.255.255.255
   ping -br 192.168.0.255

Desktop (disconnected from internet)

[root@molch wobo]# ping -br 255.255.255.255
connect: Network is unreachable

ifconfig (disconnected from internet) says:

eth0  Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:50:BA:31:0F:B2
 inet Adresse:10.0.0.10  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0

eth1  Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:20:AF:6E:F5:16
 inet Adresse:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0

loProtokoll:Lokale Schleife
  inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0

# ping -br 192.168.0.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255) from 192.168.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of 
data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.844 msec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=205 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=202 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=204 usec

# ping -br 10.0.0.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 10.0.0.255 (10.0.0.255) from 10.0.0.10 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.10: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.838 msec
64 bytes from 10.0.0.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=188 usec
64 bytes from 10.0.0.10: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=181 usec

--

On the notebook :

# ping -br 192.168.0.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255) from 192.168.0.2 : 56(84) bytes of 
data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=92 msec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=73 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=73 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=73 usec

# ping -br 255.255.255.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 255.255.255.255 (255.255.255.255) from 192.168.0.2 : 56(84) 
bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=71 msec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=73 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=73 usec
64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=70 usec

--

# /sbin/arp -a
#

arp -a gives nothing on both machines.

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Re: [expert] Network problem

2001-11-27 Thread Jose Orlando T. Ribeiro

hello wolfgang!

I've been reading your posts about your network for a few days...

great problem! that is one of these that we write on the notepad to never forget
what we did :-)

let's go...

since arp -a gives nothing, then you have no connection, but each piece in your
setup (cross-cable, notebook's nic, desktop's nic) works ok when used with the
adsl (your Internet connection is trough an adsl, as I remember) or when tested
with other computer I have just one opinion:

by means of some power of darkness, when you connect both nics trough the
cross-cable you are are shutting the electrical signals to a very low level,
that isn't enough to keep the network connection.

this don't happen with the adsl box... and probably wouldn't happen with a
switch or a hub...

why this happen? probably the notebook's nic is of poor quality... or you just
run out of luck :-)

orlando

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 
 Am Dienstag, 27. November 2001 17:12 schrieben Sie:
  OK...  give us the results of:
 
ping -br 255.255.255.255
ping -br 192.168.0.255
 
 Desktop (disconnected from internet)
 
 [root@molch wobo]# ping -br 255.255.255.255
 connect: Network is unreachable
 
 ifconfig (disconnected from internet) says:
 
 eth0  Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:50:BA:31:0F:B2
  inet Adresse:10.0.0.10  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
 
 eth1  Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:20:AF:6E:F5:16
  inet Adresse:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
 
 loProtokoll:Lokale Schleife
   inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
 
 # ping -br 192.168.0.255
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255) from 192.168.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of
 data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.844 msec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=205 usec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=202 usec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=204 usec
 
 # ping -br 10.0.0.255
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 PING 10.0.0.255 (10.0.0.255) from 10.0.0.10 : 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.10: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.838 msec
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=188 usec
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.10: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=181 usec
 
 --
 
 On the notebook :
 
 # ping -br 192.168.0.255
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255) from 192.168.0.2 : 56(84) bytes of
 data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=92 msec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=73 usec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=73 usec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=73 usec
 
 # ping -br 255.255.255.255
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 PING 255.255.255.255 (255.255.255.255) from 192.168.0.2 : 56(84)
 bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=71 msec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=73 usec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=73 usec
 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=70 usec
 
 --
 
 # /sbin/arp -a
 #
 
 arp -a gives nothing on both machines.
 
 wobo
 
   
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