[FairfieldLife] Beginner's Mind film review...
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few. -- Shunryu Suzuki-roshi This is a particularly apt quote when reviewing a film that everyone thinks that they know by heart. King Kong is like that. Ask almost anyone, and they'll tell you they know all about it. They'll express doubt that any remake of the original film is necessary or that it could reveal anything they don't already know. They're King Kong experts. Peter Jackson, the person who was finally successful in bringing Tolkien's vision of The Lord of the Rings to the screen, amazed most of Hollywood with his choice for a followup film -- a remake of King Kong. People said he was crazy, that it was a bad choice and that the film would be remembered as a monumental work of folly. I must admit that I had a few doubts myself. But I saw it yesterday (dubbed into French, which helped with the beginner's mind thang), and I was wrong. Peter Jackson *saw something* in that story that the experts couldn't see because they had become experts and had stopped seeing. He saw an amazing tale, a timeless story of discovery and adventure, almost on the level of the Ring trilogy itself. And more, he saw an opportunity for making a commentary on the nature of humanity, by focusing on a relationship betweeen the only two characters in the film -- one of whom is not even human -- who still understand the higher nature of human relationships. In short, I liked the film. You might, too. It'll require three hours of your time and a lot of suspension of disbelief, but if you can get yourself out of expert mode and back into beginner's mind for that period of time, it's one helluva ride. Naomi Watts is amazing, as is Andy Serkis (who played Gollum in LotR) as Kong. But the real star of the film, in my opinion, is Peter Jackson himself, for having the courage to not be an expert, in an industry so full of them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote:his generous service to the world. What service might that be? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote: his generous service to the world. What service might that be? Bob has a tendency to redefine words and concepts to match his preconceptions. So 'service' in this case may be his tendency to relieve his followers of the burden of that hotbed of evil, money. :-) It's similar to his redefinition of what 'not living in luxury' means. For example, when Maharishi came to L.A. to film the Merv show (the one that Clint was on) and made us rent the entire floor of the Beverly Wilshire hotel so that he wouldn't have to see any of the rabble while he was there, that must have fallen into the category of Any comfort extended to him since then was from people who were grateful for his wisdom and his generous service to the world. And when he then went further and made us go to the hotel management and insist that they rent us the rooms on top of and under Maharishi's room, because he was so paranoid that he thought the CIA would rent them to snoop on him, that must have been because he was trying to protect unwary people from being too near his holy aura. :-) Only one person actually stayed in any of the rooms that were rented -- Maharishi. The bill came to some- thing just over $200,000, for four days. This was all at his personal direction. If anyone's being 'generous' here, I'd say it's Maharishi being awfully generous about frittering away money he *could* have used to actually help people learn TM. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote: his generous service to the world. What service might that be? Bob has a tendency to redefine words and concepts to match his preconceptions. So 'service' in this case may be his tendency to relieve his followers of the burden of that hotbed of evil, money. :-) It's similar to his redefinition of what 'not living in luxury' means. For example, when Maharishi came to L.A. to film the Merv show (the one that Clint was on) and made us rent the entire floor of the Beverly Wilshire hotel so that he wouldn't have to see any of the rabble while he was there, that must have fallen into the category of "Any comfort extended to him since then was from people who were grateful for his wisdom and his generous service to the world." And when he then went further and made us go to the hotel management and insist that they rent us the rooms on top of and under Maharishi's room, because he was so paranoid that he thought the CIA would rent them to snoop on him, that must have been because he was trying to protect unwary people from being too near his holy aura. :-) Only one person actually stayed in any of the rooms that were rented -- Maharishi. The bill came to some- thing just over $200,000, for four days. This was all at his personal direction. If anyone's being 'generous' here, I'd say it's Maharishi being awfully generous about frittering away money he *could* have used to actually help people learn TM. Maybe a TM center in Watts? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Settings
Why not just limit Tom Pall? Sal On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Rick Archer wrote: In order to prevent a repeat of the incident in which apparently, Tom Pall uploaded a bunch of x-rated photos and then notified Yahoo that our chat had x-rated photos, thus causing our reclassification to the adult category, we have limited all members to read-only access for files, photos, links, database, and calendar. If you would like to upload something, please notify Gullible Fool ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or me. We'll then temporarily lift the limitation, and impose it again after you're finished. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Settings
He could join the group and post under a different name. --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just limit Tom Pall? Sal On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Rick Archer wrote: In order to prevent a repeat of the incident in which apparently, Tom Pall uploaded a bunch of x-rated photos and then notified Yahoo that our chat had x-rated photos, thus causing our reclassification to the adult category, we have limited all members to read-only access for files, photos, links, database, and calendar. If you would like to upload something, please notify Gullible Fool ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or me. We'll then temporarily lift the limitation, and impose it again after you're finished. Sorry for the inconvenience. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Use your brain, bbrigante. (Was: Scorpions in debt)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent months, the British economy has started to show signs of stagnancy: Interest rates are rising, adjustable-rate mortgage payments are increasing, consumer confidence is down, and retailers are reporting a disappointing holiday season, Penn says. http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2005-12-21-uk-credit-usat_x.htm What crap. Tell us how much the USA spends on interest financing your ludicrous debt, bbrigante. You could do something for the homeless folk of New Orleans with a tiny proportion of that sum. We in the UK are light years better off than you in most respects. Look at the Top Ten Disasters since 5/11. We are not even in the list. We're doing fine, punk. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Use your brain, bbrigante. (Was: Scorpions in debt)
--- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent months, the British economy has started to show signs of stagnancy: Interest rates are rising, adjustable-rate mortgage payments are increasing, consumer confidence is down, and retailers are reporting a disappointing holiday season, Penn says. http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2005-12-21-uk-credit-usat_x.htm What crap. Tell us how much the USA spends on interest financing your ludicrous debt, bbrigante. You could do something for the homeless folk of New Orleans with a tiny proportion of that sum. We in the UK are light years better off than you in most respects. Look at the Top Ten Disasters since 5/11. We are not even in the list. We're doing fine, punk. Uns. I guess that MMY's hoodo-voodo needs more juju to work. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Use your brain, bbrigante. (Was: Scorpions in debt)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent months, the British economy has started to show signs of stagnancy: Interest rates are rising, adjustable-rate mortgage payments are increasing, consumer confidence is down, and retailers are reporting a disappointing holiday season, Penn says. http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2005-12-21-uk-credit-usat_x.htm What crap. Tell us how much the USA spends on interest financing your ludicrous debt, bbrigante. You could do something for the homeless folk of New Orleans with a tiny proportion of that sum. We in the UK are light years better off than you in most respects. Look at the Top Ten Disasters since 5/11. We are not even in the list. We're doing fine, punk. Uns. I guess that MMY's hoodo-voodo needs more juju to work. Sloppy workmanship in the Vlodrop kitchens. There was sufficient gall of goat, and slips of yew, but they forgot the liver of blaspheming Jew. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Settings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to prevent a repeat of the incident in which apparently, Tom Pall uploaded a bunch of x-rated photos and then notified Yahoo that our chat had x-rated photos, thus causing our reclassification to the adult category, we have limited all members to read-only access for files, photos, links, database, and calendar. If you would like to upload something, please notify Gullible Fool ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or me. We'll then temporarily lift the limitation, and impose it again after you're finished. Sorry for the inconvenience. Rick and GF With my fiber optic line finally repaired, I can host files on my personal web server. With Yahoo's ridiculously small allotted disk space, it might not be a bad idea to host some content elsewhere. And, with photos, there's the additional benefit of files not being downsized, as they are on Yahoo. I've created the directory, and if there's any interest, gimme a shout. http://alex.natel.net/ffl/ Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Use your brain, bbrigante. (Was: Scorpions in debt)
--- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent months, the British economy has started to show signs of stagnancy: Interest rates are rising, adjustable-rate mortgage payments are increasing, consumer confidence is down, and retailers are reporting a disappointing holiday season, Penn says. http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2005-12-21-uk-credit-usat_x.htm What crap. Tell us how much the USA spends on interest financing your ludicrous debt, bbrigante. You could do something for the homeless folk of New Orleans with a tiny proportion of that sum. We in the UK are light years better off than you in most respects. Look at the Top Ten Disasters since 5/11. We are not even in the list. We're doing fine, punk. Uns. I guess that MMY's hoodo-voodo needs more juju to work. Sloppy workmanship in the Vlodrop kitchens. There was sufficient gall of goat, and slips of yew, but they forgot the liver of blaspheming Jew. Uns. Of course! Those damn Jews always at the root of the world's problems. But we do like all the money they make! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yug in India.??
I wouldn't call it rare. http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rjh9u/downfreq.html --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you figure that? Down's Syndrome is a rare condition. So if we were to focus efforts on saving the ones that have it, while at the same time ignoring more common maladies and conditions, this would go towards ensuring survival of the species? That seems to be what you're saying, and it doesn't hold up. Sal On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:06 AM, authfriend wrote: Triage in the good biological stewardship sense applies on the species level, not on the individual level. More *species* total will survive if efforts are focused on the rare ones. __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hoo Ray!
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL has been reassigned to the Spirituality category. This means that it can now be found through searches in Yahoo Groups, the RSS feed works again, etc. A wonderful member here found the right people at Yahoo and got it done. We¹ll divulge more details later if it is advisable. Great! many thanks!!! For some reason I have an image of Tom P. looking like the wicked witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz saying, Curses, spolied again! But just wait, my pretty, I'll be back! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hoo Ray!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL has been reassigned to the Spirituality category. This means that it can now be found through searches in Yahoo Groups, the RSS feed works again, etc. A wonderful member here found the right people at Yahoo and got it done. We¹ll divulge more details later if it is advisable. Great! many thanks!!! For some reason I have an image of Tom P. looking like the wicked witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz saying, Curses, spolied again! But just wait, my pretty, I'll be back! Hide Toto. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hoo Ray!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason I have an image of Tom P. looking like the wicked witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz saying, Curses, spolied again! But just wait, my pretty, I'll be back! Sad for such a delightful spirit as our wicked witch. IÕve always imagined her keeping better company Ð her clever kind naturally avoiding the likes of Mr. Pall. I heard it said that once a witch acquaints herself with the likes of this dark, unregenerate homoclus, she suffers the regrettable loss of all magic. Sound warning for all... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hoo Ray!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL has been reassigned to the Spirituality category. This means that it can now be found through searches in Yahoo Groups, the RSS feed works again, etc. A wonderful member here found the right people at Yahoo and got it done. We¹ll divulge more details later if it is advisable. Well done. Yahoo! Oh, wait, nevermind ;-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
on 12/23/05 12:30 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi walked away from middle class life after he left college, to live a simple life, sleeping on the ground outside Guru Dev's door. After Guru Dev died, MMY lived in a cave for a while, then was inspired to go to South India and start the movement. Any comfort extended to him since then was from people who were grateful for his wisdom and his generous service to the world. Bob is dealing in fantasy. When Maharishi was in the US for the first Merv TV show, the hotel bill for his four days' stay at the Beverly Wilshire hotel was in six figures. Did that include the whole entourage, most of whom would have picked up their own tab? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
on 12/22/05 11:57 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was the Bentley the one that I heard Vesey Crighton gave to MMY? Didn't know Vesey gave it, but it could be. I had heard that he gave him either a Bentley or a Rolls...and I could never understand that (assuming the story to be true) as this was in the '70s and post-Rajneesh and post-Guru Maharaj-Ji, both of whom were taken to task for having extravagent cars such as Rolls. Giving MMY such a gift would be just asking for trouble, wouldn't it? But he only had one, and no Rolex. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hoo Ray!
I am happy Bill Leed of the re assignment To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/23/05 12:30 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob is dealing in fantasy. When Maharishi was in the US for the first Merv TV show, the hotel bill for his four days' stay at the Beverly Wilshire hotel was in six figures. Did that include the whole entourage, most of whom would have picked up their own tab? I clarified in a subsequent post. The bill for Maharishi's room alone was over $200,000 for four days. The reason is that he required us to rent the whole floor plus the rooms directly above and directly below his room on the adjacent floors. No one else stayed on this floor or in any of these rented rooms. The people in the entourage, if they stayed at that hotel, stayed floors away and paid for their own lodging. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet someplace, somewhere, there's a jivan mukta blazing in the brilliance of Brahman who would miserably fail this test. Just because someone's 'jivan mukta' also doesn't mean that you have to agree with them, follow them or approve of their actions either. JohnY --- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://energygrid.com/spirit/ap-falsegurutest.html 1. States his or her own enlightenment: The wisest masters tend not to state their own enlightenment or perfection for they know that it is both unhelpful to themselves and to their students. The false teachers often make this claim because they have little else on offer to attract followers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] True Believers and Fundamentalists
Some appear to be into self-flatulation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Settings
on 12/23/05 8:46 AM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to prevent a repeat of the incident in which apparently, Tom Pall uploaded a bunch of x-rated photos and then notified Yahoo that our chat had x-rated photos, thus causing our reclassification to the adult category, we have limited all members to read-only access for files, photos, links, database, and calendar. If you would like to upload something, please notify Gullible Fool ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or me. We'll then temporarily lift the limitation, and impose it again after you're finished. Sorry for the inconvenience. Rick and GF With my fiber optic line finally repaired, I can host files on my personal web server. With Yahoo's ridiculously small allotted disk space, it might not be a bad idea to host some content elsewhere. And, with photos, there's the additional benefit of files not being downsized, as they are on Yahoo. I've created the directory, and if there's any interest, gimme a shout. http://alex.natel.net/ffl/ How would this work? Could people upload files or would they send them to you to upload? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
Earlier this year this group had posts arguing that the tsunami and katrina were Nature's punishment towards areas that had low consciousness. Similar type of thinking here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-1952823,00.html MARLUDDIN JALIL, a Sharia judge who has ordered the punishment of women for not wearing headscarves, was uncompromising: The tsunami was because of the sins of the people of Aceh. Thundering into a microphone at a gathering of wives, he made clear where he felt the fault lay: The Holy Koran says that if women are good, then a country is good. A year after the disaster which many see as a divine punishment, emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin and women are their prime targets. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Levitating Saint
http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap7.html Chapter 7 The Levitating Saint AB of a Yogi I saw a yogi remain in the air, several feet above the ground, last night at a group meeting. My friend, Upendra Mohun Chowdhury, spoke impressively. snip I have seen him in remarkable feats. He has expertly mastered the various pranayamas 1 of the ancient eightfold yoga outlined by Patanjali.2 Once Bhaduri Mahasaya performed the Bhastrika Pranayama before me with such amazing force that it seemed an actual storm had arisen in the room! Then he extinguished the thundering breath and remained motionless in a high state of superconsciousness.3 The aura of peace after the storm was vivid beyond forgetting. I heard that the saint never leaves his home. Upendra's tone was a trifle incredulous. Indeed it is true! He has lived indoors for the past twenty years. He slightly relaxes his self-imposed rule at the times of our holy festivals, when he goes as far as his front sidewalk! The beggars gather there, because Saint Bhaduri is known for his tender heart. How does he remain in the air, defying the law of gravitation? A yogi's body loses its grossness after use of certain pranayamas. Then it will levitate or hop about like a leaping frog. Even saints who do not practice a formal yoga 4 have been known to levitate during a state of intense devotion to God. snip present. Maharishi,5 you are the first yogi I have known who always stays indoors. God plants his saints sometimes in unexpected soil, lest we think we may reduce Him to a rule! The sage locked his vibrant body in the lotus posture. In his seventies, he displayed no unpleasing signs of age or sedentary life. Stalwart and straight, he was ideal in every respect. His face was that of a rishi, as described in the ancient texts. Noble-headed, abundantly bearded, he always sat firmly upright, his quiet eyes fixed on Omnipresence. The saint and I entered the meditative state. After an hour, his gentle voice roused me. You go often into the silence, but have you developed anubhava?6 He was reminding me to love God more than meditation. Do not mistake the technique for the Goal. He offered me some mangoes. With that good-humored wit that I found so delightful in his grave nature, he remarked, People in general are more fond of Jala Yoga (union with food) than of Dhyana Yoga (union with God). snip Although it throws me ahead of my story by a number of years, I will recount here the last words given to me by Bhaduri Mahasaya. Shortly before I embarked for the West, I sought him out and humbly knelt for his farewell blessing: Son, go to America. Take the dignity of hoary India for your shield. Victory is written on your brow; the noble distant people will well receive you. 1 Methods of controlling life-force through regulation of breath. Back to text 2 The foremost ancient exponent of yoga. Back to text 3 French professors were the first in the West to be willing to scientifically investigate the possibilities of the superconscious mind. Professor Jules-Bois, member of the L'Ecole de Psychologie of the Sorbonne, lectured in America in 1928; he told his audiences that French scientists have accorded recognition to the superconsciousness, which is the exact opposite of Freud's subconscious mind and is the faculty which makes man really man and not just a super-animal. M. Jules-Bois explained that the awakening of the higher consciousness was not to be confused with Coueism or hypnotism. The existence of a superconscious mind has long been recognized philosophically, being in reality the Oversoul spoken of by Emerson, but only recently has it been recognized scientifically. The French scientist pointed out that from the superconsciousness come inspiration, genius, moral values. Belief in this is not mysticism though it recognized and valued the qualities which mystics preached. Back to text 4 St. Theresa of Avila and other Christian saints were often observed in a state of levitation. Back to text 5 Great sage. Back to text 6 Actual perception of God. Back to text 7 The saint's full name was Nagendranath Bhaduri. Math means hermitage or ashram. Back to text Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote: his generous service to the world. What service might that be? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Levitating Saint
THE SIDDHA UDHILIPA The Flying Siddha Following after wandering thought is madness; Resisting that tendency habitual karma is restrained. Abiding nowhere, mind is centered; Nothing is to be found by seeking elsewhere. By virtue of his previous generosity, an aristocrat of Devikotta possessed a vast fortune. In the luxury of his palace he enjoy every pleasure that his imagination could conjure. Gazing from window one day, he watched five-colored clouds forming various animal shapes, and continuing to look he saw a swan and fly across the sky. What a joy it would be to fly! he thought himself, and he became obsessed with the idea. When the Guru Kanaripa came to his palace to beg alms, he offered him the food he could provide and then entreated the yogin to teach him fly. He made prostration to him and offered him the price ofthe teaching. Karnaripa gave him initiation into the Catuspitha-mahayogini-tantra and told him to visit the Twenty-four Great Power Places collect the twenty-four panaceas of the twenty-four Dakinis recite the mantras of the Dãkinis ten thousand times each. The pilgrim accomplished that task, and then he went back Karnaripa and asked him how to prepare the elixir. First place the panaceas in a copper pot, then in a silver pot and finally in a golden pot. Then you will be able to fly, the yogin told him. After twelve years the elixir was perfected, and through his duous preparation he could fly through the sky. He became know as Udhilipa, The Flying Siddha. After proclaiming his realization bodily attained the Dakini's Paradise. Sãdhana We cannot be sure whether Udhilipa was given an esoteric interpretation of Karnaripa's precepts. He may have criss-crossed India in an extended pilgrimage, and as a method of maturing the mind- stream such a kriyayoga practice is incomparably effective, but anuttarayoga-tantra purists would despise such a course, insisting on a hathayoga interpretation. The Catuspitha-mahayogini-tantra, a sahajayãna text, treats the four power places (catuspitha) as the four upper cakras, naming the atmapitha, parapitha, yogapitha and guhyapitha. The twenty-four pithas) are the minor junctions or cakras in the Body of Samvara (Heruka). Each of the eight spokes of the heart cakra, which carry the materializing energies of the five elements and the five sense objects, divided into three--red, white and blue--channels, connecting the heart center with the twenty-four pithas. The twenty-four pithas ha are divided into three mandalas of eight each, mai lalas of Body. Speech and Mind. From each of the twenty-four cakras, three channels diverge, each of those seventy-two channels dividing into a thousand capillary channels; thus the twenty- four internal power places are control boxes for the entire psycho- organism. At the essence of each of the twenty-four cakras is a red and white seed, which is the cakra's panacea, and each cakra is represented by a Dakini or yogini who may be propitiated by her mantra and her panacea thereby obtained. Gathering the panaceas through recitation of mantra is a process of purification of body, speech and mind, and an identification with the absolute reality of being in its separate parts. Pouring the panaceas from copper to silver to golden pot is to transform the mandalas of body, speech and mind into the nirmanakaya sambhogakaya and dharmakaya. With attainment of the dharmakaya not only can a yogin fly and perform the eight great siddhis, but he has also attained mahãmudra-siddhi.337 Historiography The external references of the four principal power places according to the Hevajra-tantra are Jalandhara (North), Oddiyana (West), Purnagiri (South), and Kamarupa (East) (see p. 278 for locations of the entire twenty-four pithasthanas). Udhilipa with its root uddiya, flying, or soaring, has been corrupted in many ways (for example, Otili, Odhali, Udheli, and Udhari). To the Tibetans Udhili is The Flier (Phur pa). If Karnaripa (18) is Nagajuna's disciple, Udhilipa lived in the ninth century but if he is Goraksha[nath]'s disciple, known also as Vairagi, and certain elements of the legend, particularly the hatha-yoga terminology and concepts, not least the siddhi of flying, indicates nãth associations then Udhilipa will have been alive in the eleventh century and will be found in nãth lineages. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote:How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have time to be the workaholic CEO type.I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin and women are their prime targets. When adharma prevails, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupt, and with the corruption of women, O Varshneya, intermixture of castes arises. Bhavagad-Gita Chapter 1, verse 41 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Settings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/23/05 8:46 AM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my fiber optic line finally repaired, I can host files on my personal web server. With Yahoo's ridiculously small allotted disk space, it might not be a bad idea to host some content elsewhere. And, with photos, there's the additional benefit of files not being downsized, as they are on Yahoo. I've created the directory, and if there's any interest, gimme a shout. http://alex.natel.net/ffl/ How would this work? Could people upload files or would they send them to you to upload? People would have to email me the files. I'm not comfortable giving people FTP access to the server. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women...
In a message dated 12/23/05 12:41:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin — and women are their prime targets.When adharma prevails, O Krishna,the women of the family becomecorrupt, and with the corruptionof women, O Varshneya, intermixtureof castes arises. Where da white womens? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote: How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have time to be the workaholic CEO type. Your syntax is a bit garbled here, but I think I know what you're trying to say. I'll just point out the obvious, that spending all his time as a workaholic CEO type is what has made possible teaching TM around the world to millions (not just thousands) of people. I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? No, you don't wonder at all. There are many charitable organizations and individuals that have given money to victims of the tsunami and 9/11 (and Katrina, and many other worthy causes). The TMO, however, is not a charitable organization, it's an educational organization that exists to teach people TM, in the belief that if enough people are practicing it, there will be fewer disastrous tsunamis and less terrorism overall. So it doesn't make sense to expend resources trying to deal with the problem on the level of the problem instead of dealing with the root cause, especially when so much charity is flowing from organizations and individuals whose purpose it is to help the victims directly. It's perfectly reasonable to think this is an absurd belief, or even to criticize MMY for holding it, but it's kinda silly to attack him for being stingy when it *is* what he believes, and what he's devoted his life to attempting to accomplish. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin and women are their prime targets. When adharma prevails, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupt, and with the corruption of women, O Varshneya, intermixture of castes arises. Bhavagad-Gita Chapter 1, verse 41 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Maybe then we should make them wear cloaks and headress / veils, not let them drive or vote. Keep that feminine adharma in check. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 1:49 PM, authfriend wrote:I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? No, you don't wonder at all. There are many charitable organizations and individuals that have given money to victims of the tsunami and 9/11 (and Katrina, and many other worthy causes). The TMO, however, is not a charitable organization, it's an educational organization that exists to teach people TM, in the belief that if enough people are practicing it, there will be fewer disastrous tsunamis and less terrorism overall. So it doesn't make sense to expend resources trying to deal with the problem on the level of the problem instead of dealing with the root cause, especially when so much charity is flowing from organizations and individuals whose purpose it is to help the victims directly.You didn't answer the question. Are you implying they/he gave nothing? Not even a small amount?I'm sure many have died due to these faulty beliefs--really just extortion schemes. It's perfectly reasonable to think this is an absurd belief, or even to criticize MMY for holding it, but it's kinda silly to attack him for being stingy when it *is* what he believes, and what he's devoted his life to attempting to accomplish. Not according to one of his closest former disciples, Earl Kaplan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Very well said. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote: How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have time to be the workaholic CEO type. Your syntax is a bit garbled here, but I think I know what you're trying to say. I'll just point out the obvious, that spending all his time as a workaholic CEO type is what has made possible teaching TM around the world to millions (not just thousands) of people. I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? No, you don't wonder at all. There are many charitable organizations and individuals that have given money to victims of the tsunami and 9/11 (and Katrina, and many other worthy causes). The TMO, however, is not a charitable organization, it's an educational organization that exists to teach people TM, in the belief that if enough people are practicing it, there will be fewer disastrous tsunamis and less terrorism overall. So it doesn't make sense to expend resources trying to deal with the problem on the level of the problem instead of dealing with the root cause, especially when so much charity is flowing from organizations and individuals whose purpose it is to help the victims directly. It's perfectly reasonable to think this is an absurd belief, or even to criticize MMY for holding it, but it's kinda silly to attack him for being stingy when it *is* what he believes, and what he's devoted his life to attempting to accomplish. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Settings
on 12/23/05 12:40 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/23/05 8:46 AM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my fiber optic line finally repaired, I can host files on my personal web server. With Yahoo's ridiculously small allotted disk space, it might not be a bad idea to host some content elsewhere. And, with photos, there's the additional benefit of files not being downsized, as they are on Yahoo. I've created the directory, and if there's any interest, gimme a shout. http://alex.natel.net/ffl/ How would this work? Could people upload files or would they send them to you to upload? People would have to email me the files. I'm not comfortable giving people FTP access to the server. Sounds good to me. I could add it to the Group Guidelines. What email address would you like to use? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Hey, Bob Brigante,Did you say Exc. Bevan Morris has a million dollar marble bathroom.?? Why should Maharishi be afraid of CIA.??OriginalMessage- From: "TurquoiseB" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:30:13 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru testBob has a tendency to redefine words and concepts to match his preconceptions. So 'service' in this case may be his tendency to relieve his followers of the burden of that hotbed of evil, money. :-) It's similar to his redefinition of what 'not living in luxury' means. For example, when Maharishi came to L.A. to film the Merv show (the one that Clint was on) and made us rent the entire floor of the Beverly Wilshire hotel so that he wouldn't have to see any of the rabble while he was there, that must have fallen into the category of "Any comfort extended to him since then was from people who were grateful for his wisdom and his generous service to the world." And when he then went further and made us go to the hotel management and insist that they rent us the rooms on top of and under Maharishi's room, because he was so paranoid that he thought the CIA would rent them to snoop on him, that must have been because he was trying to protect unwary people from being too near his holy aura. :-) Only one person actually stayed in any of the rooms that were rented -- Maharishi. The bill came to some-thing just over $200,000, for four days. This was all at his personal direction. If anyone's being 'generous' here, I'd say it's Maharishi being awfully generous about frittering away money he *could* have used to actually help people learn TM. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
I heard that the Mullahs in iran are the ones responsible for smuggling girls into Pakistan to be sold as Prostitutes in brothels. Each year about 5,000 girls from Iran and Afghanistan are brought into Pakistan and places like Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi are full of brothels. Even top Generals, bureaucrats, businessmen in Pakistan visit these brothels, and most of them are heard to have illegitimate children.!! Putting the blame on women for Tsunami is a modern-day Witch-hunt. What the bloody Vatican did 400 years ago these Fucking Muslim fundies are doing to-day.??OriginalMessage- From: "markmeredith2002" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:06:48 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women toldEarlier this year this group had posts arguing that the tsunami and katrina were Nature's punishment towards areas that had low consciousness. Similar type of thinking here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-1952823,00.html MARLUDDIN JALIL, a Sharia judge who has ordered the punishment of women for not wearing headscarves, was uncompromising: "The tsunami was because of the sins of the people of Aceh." Thundering into a microphone at a gathering of wives, he made clear where he felt the fault lay: "The Holy Koran says that if women are good, then a country is good." A year after the disaster which many see as a divine punishment, emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin and women are their prime targets. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beginner's Mind film review...
TurquoiseB wrote: In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few. -- Shunryu Suzuki-roshi This is a particularly apt quote when reviewing a film that everyone thinks that they know by heart. King Kong is like that. Ask almost anyone, and they'll tell you they know all about it. They'll express doubt that any remake of the original film is necessary or that it could reveal anything they don't already know. They're King Kong experts. Peter Jackson, the person who was finally successful in bringing Tolkien's vision of The Lord of the Rings to the screen, amazed most of Hollywood with his choice for a followup film -- a remake of King Kong. People said he was crazy, that it was a bad choice and that the film would be remembered as a monumental work of folly. I must admit that I had a few doubts myself. But I saw it yesterday (dubbed into French, which helped with the beginner's mind thang), and I was wrong. Peter Jackson *saw something* in that story that the experts couldn't see because they had become experts and had stopped seeing. He saw an amazing tale, a timeless story of discovery and adventure, almost on the level of the Ring trilogy itself. And more, he saw an opportunity for making a commentary on the nature of humanity, by focusing on a relationship betweeen the only two characters in the film -- one of whom is not even human -- who still understand the higher nature of human relationships. In short, I liked the film. You might, too. It'll require three hours of your time and a lot of suspension of disbelief, but if you can get yourself out of expert mode and back into beginner's mind for that period of time, it's one helluva ride. Naomi Watts is amazing, as is Andy Serkis (who played Gollum in LotR) as Kong. But the real star of the film, in my opinion, is Peter Jackson himself, for having the courage to not be an expert, in an industry so full of them. Have you seen any of Jackson's early films? Such as Meet the Feebles and Bad Taste? Feebles is like the muppets on acid and quite a hoot. I can see from these why studio execs had confidence Jackson could bring in LotR as these films had some good special effects produced on a low budget. - Bhairitu Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Guideline Points
Title: New Guideline Points The following two points were just added to the guidelines. 6) In order to prevent a repeat of the incident in which apparently, a malicious member uploaded some x-rated photos and then notified Yahoo that our chat had x-rated photos, thus causing our temporary reclassification to the adult category, we have limited all members to read-only access for files, photos, links, database, and calendar. If you would like to upload something, please notify Gullible Fool ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). We'll then temporarily lift the limitation, and impose it again after you're finished. Sorry for the inconvenience. 7) You may post anonymously, using an account you create or a shared account. Shared accounts available for FFL use are as follows: User = a_non_moose_ff Password = 123456 Were thinking of revoking point #6 and instead, having several volunteers check the files and photos section every day or two to make sure nothing objectionable has been uploaded. Well either empower them to delete the things, or if thats not easy, notify us to do so. One person has already volunteered. If anyone else would like to, please let me know. Its easy to tell if new files or photons have been uploaded, because it says so at the top of the home page. Probably another one or two anonymous accounts will be added to point #7. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beginner's Mind film review...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen any of Jackson's early films? Such as Meet the Feebles and Bad Taste? Feebles is like the muppets on acid and quite a hoot. I can see from these why studio execs had confidence Jackson could bring in LotR as these films had some good special effects produced on a low budget. I've seen Heavenly Creatures, but not the others. If you see King Kong, watch for three scenes that are just magic -- two parallel scenes with Kong and Anne sitting watching the sunset, and one scene with Kong discovering ice in Central Park. These scenes alone would have made the purchase price of the film worth it for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of others. I would say MMY passes that test to all but the most cynical observers. It seems that you see no value at all in what he has done. I would call you a TN (true nonbeliever), which is a bit like being a TB in the sense that you have to ignore huge swaths of evidence in order to maintain your point of view, come hell or high water. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote: How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have time to be the workaholic CEO type. I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin and women are their prime targets. When adharma prevails, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupt, and with the corruption of women, O Varshneya, intermixture of castes arises. Bhavagad-Gita Chapter 1, verse 41 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Maybe then we should make them wear cloaks and headress / veils, not let them drive or vote. Keep that feminine adharma in check. Yeah, control the women. It's such a popular policy in so many cultures across so many periods in history, it must be the thing to do, right? Funny thing, though. If women really are the keepers of dharma and culture, you'd think they could manage that responsibility without oversight by men. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of others. I would say MMY passes that test to all but the most cynical observers. It seems that you see no value at all in what he has done. I would call you a TN (true nonbeliever), which is a bit like being a TB in the sense that you have to ignore huge swaths of evidence in order to maintain your point of view, come hell or high water. I agree that generosity is the giving of, ones time and talents to help improve the lives of others. And IMO even focussing of ones talents on helping others is laudible. Whether one receives nothing, something modest, something substantial for that focus is not so relevant. Though it may be a further sign of generosity, that if one is generously renumberated for focusing ones time and talents to help improve the lives of others, that part or all of that renumeration is also shared. Take Oprah. Though not my cup of tea in some regards, it seems clear she is focussed on helping others. That she makes billions doing so is not a crime. Nor does it diminsh from the good results from her focus. That she gives away tens of millions in causes that also help others, is another wave of good will. Ted Turner is another example. He paved the way for world-wide, instant news (while it currently has it excesses, overall it is a great development, IMO.) And he had given much of his fortune away. Over one billion I think to the UN. A similar case could be made for Bill Gates. Certainly he is giving away most of his fortune. Though somemight argue that the focus of Microsoft was not to help people. I disagree, but reasonable people can have different views. Bill Gates might be another --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote: How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have time to be the workaholic CEO type. I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 1:49 PM, authfriend wrote: I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? No, you don't wonder at all. There are many charitable organizations and individuals that have given money to victims of the tsunami and 9/11 (and Katrina, and many other worthy causes). The TMO, however, is not a charitable organization, it's an educational organization that exists to teach people TM, in the belief that if enough people are practicing it, there will be fewer disastrous tsunamis and less terrorism overall. So it doesn't make sense to expend resources trying to deal with the problem on the level of the problem instead of dealing with the root cause, especially when so much charity is flowing from organizations and individuals whose purpose it is to help the victims directly. You didn't answer the question. It was disingenuously phrased as a question. I addressed what you didn't have the cojones to say directly. Are you implying they/he gave nothing? Not even a small amount? I'm sure many have died due to these faulty beliefs--really just extortion schemes. No, they died due to the disasters, as you know. It's perfectly reasonable to think this is an absurd belief, or even to criticize MMY for holding it, but it's kinda silly to attack him for being stingy when it *is* what he believes, and what he's devoted his life to attempting to accomplish. Not according to one of his closest former disciples, Earl Kaplan. Earl Kaplan has said a whole lot of things. I'm surprised anybody would take his word on anything relating to MMY without solid independent confirmation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Judy, How, exactly, will the amount of people practicing TM affect the number of tsunamis, (or anything else relating to them) seeing as how the cause of those are far beneath the ocean? Yes, I know the silliness the TMO tries to perpetrate on how we can affect natural disasters, but do you really believe that? And, if you do, how exactly do you think that would happen? Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:49 PM, authfriend wrote: The TMO, however, is not a charitable organization, it's an educational organization that exists to teach people TM, in the belief that if enough people are practicing it, there will be fewer disastrous tsunamis and less terrorism overall.
[FairfieldLife] m4p conversion to mp3
Hello All I would like to convert a lot of m4p files to mp3 format and wonder if anyone here has found a good utility program to do this. I'd greatly appreciate it! Kenny H. kenhassman AT comcast DOT net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, How, exactly, will the amount of people practicing TM affect the number of tsunamis, (or anything else relating to them) seeing as how the cause of those are far beneath the ocean? Yes, I know the silliness the TMO tries to perpetrate on how we can affect natural disasters, but do you really believe that? And, if you do, how exactly do you think that would happen? I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an explanation as any for such a notion. Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:49 PM, authfriend wrote: The TMO, however, is not a charitable organization, it's an educational organization that exists to teach people TM, in the belief that if enough people are practicing it, there will be fewer disastrous tsunamis and less terrorism overall. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding stress in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in human terms, is what is responsible for natural disasters, things that have been going on, by all accounts, for millions of years, long before humans came on the scene? And, if you do, how is this different from any other superstition? Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote: According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an explanation as any for such a notion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable and awesomely radical endless pipes, huge papayas gently falling when you are hungry, and ever righteous babes everywhere on the beach. And when there is a tamasic vibe coming from earth, the sea gods get pissed and shake all over, and this causes Tsunamis. Duh. Where have you been girl? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, How, exactly, will the amount of people practicing TM affect the number of tsunamis, (or anything else relating to them) seeing as how the cause of those are far beneath the ocean? Yes, I know the silliness the TMO tries to perpetrate on how we can affect natural disasters, but do you really believe that? And, if you do, how exactly do you think that would happen? Sal Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] DJ Dave Squid Squires, worked at MIU 1975
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[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Responses interleaved. --- Sal Sunshine wrote: Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding stress in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in human terms, Maharishi's definition of stress is effectively a definition of ignorance: experiences that overshadow the self's awareness of itself. So the link is not between lactic acid and tsunamis, but between ignorance and tsunamis. is what is responsible for natural disasters, things that have been going on, by all accounts, for millions of years, long before humans came on the scene? If enlightenment is actually the condition that brings peace to a violent planet, it would make sense that the disasters would happen before humans got here. And, if you do, how is this different from any other superstition? Scientific methods might help us determine whether enlightenment soothes the environment, but who's to do the research? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Use your brain, bbrigante. (Was: Scorpions in debt)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent months, the British economy has started to show signs of stagnancy: Interest rates are rising, adjustable-rate mortgage payments are increasing, consumer confidence is down, and retailers are reporting a disappointing holiday season, Penn says. http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2005-12-21-uk-credit- usat_x.htm What crap. Tell us how much the USA spends on interest financing your ludicrous debt, bbrigante. You could do something for the homeless folk of New Orleans with a tiny proportion of that sum. We in the UK are light years better off than you in most respects. Look at the Top Ten Disasters since 5/11. We are not even in the list. We're doing fine, punk. Uns. I beg to differ -- it's hog wild over in scorpionland: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1957518,00.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responses interleaved. --- Sal Sunshine wrote: Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding stress in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in human terms, Maharishi's definition of stress is effectively a definition of ignorance: experiences that overshadow the self's awareness of itself. So the link is not between lactic acid and tsunamis, but between ignorance and tsunamis. is what is responsible for natural disasters, things that have been going on, by all accounts, for millions of years, long before humans came on the scene? If enlightenment is actually the condition that brings peace to a violent planet, it would make sense that the disasters would happen before humans got here. And, if you do, how is this different from any other superstition? Scientific methods might help us determine whether enlightenment soothes the environment, but who's to do the research? The Sea God's nymphs and sirens, of course. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Bob Brigante, Did you say Exc. Bevan Morris has a million dollar marble bathroom.?? Why should Maharishi be afraid of CIA.?? *** Guru Bev's old digs on campus did contain an $18,000 marble bathroom -- however, he now lives in Vedic City when he's not in Vlodrop -- no word on the marbleness of his toilet. Maharishi was a target of the CIA because he was targeted by that peanut-farming moron, Jimmy Carter. Rick Archer has posted here before about MMY's meeting with Carter in the Georgia governor's office not long before Carter became President (a hilarious scene -- Carter praying on his knees when MMY walked into the office). Carter felt that MMY was a threat to Christianity and determined to meet the enemy and find a way to derail him -- fortunately, like most of Carter's muddled thinking, the CIA's efforts fizzled out. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
I think for every natural disaster that strikes, we should set up giant loudspeakers and blast either Barry Manilow or Ozzy at full volume right above the offending ocean, or mountain, or whatever else has the nerve to unstress on us. That would teach em. Same thing with anyone who gives as silly answers as Patrick and Judy have. Sal I am music, and I write the soongs I can feel the earth starting to tremble already. :) On Dec 23, 2005, at 2:53 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable and awesomely radical endless pipes, huge papayas gently falling when you are hungry, and ever righteous babes everywhere on the beach. And when there is a tamasic vibe coming from earth, the sea gods get pissed and shake all over, and this causes Tsunamis. Duh. Where have you been girl?
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of others. I would say MMY passes that test to all but the most cynical observers. It seems that you see no value at all in what he has done. I would call you a TN (true nonbeliever), which is a bit like being a TB in the sense that you have to ignore huge swaths of evidence in order to maintain your point of view, come hell or high water. ** The phonies who knock MMY are like those who knocked Jesus and his devotees when a woman put an expensive oil on Him: some had indignation within themselves and said, why was this waste of the ointment made? For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her. http://www.clarion-call.org/extras/who.htm The fact is, nobody could do enough to honor a great saint like Maharishi, but there are always demonic sorts who feel impelled to attack the holy -- not that that is not a path to enlightenment: http://members.cox.net/apamnapat/entities/Shishupala.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote: How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have time to be the workaholic CEO type. I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Are you implying, it's the "Tree falling in the forest" concept. The entire solar system was born out of remnants of a SuperNova. The most violent event. We are literaly made out of star-dust. In a few billion years the Sun will expand to become a Red-Giant, swallowing Earth and Mars.!! Could we prevent this from happening.??OriginalMessage- From: "Sal Sunshine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:56:35 -0600 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding "stress" in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in human terms, is what is responsible for natural disasters, things that have been going on, by all accounts, for millions of years, long before humans came on the scene? And, if you do, how is this different from any other superstition? Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
And Fundie Carter's, Magnum Opus was the big fuck-up in Iran. He allowed Ayatholla Khomeni to take power. I think, he sent just three helicopters.OriginalMessage- From: "bbrigante" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:23:15 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru testGuru Bev's old digs on campus did contain an $18,000 marble bathroom -- however, he now lives in Vedic City when he's not in Vlodrop -- no word on the marbleness of his toilet.Maharishi was a target of the CIA because he was targeted by that peanut-farming moron, Jimmy Carter. Rick Archer has posted here before about MMY's meeting with Carter in the Georgia governor's office not long before Carter became President (a hilarious scene -- Carter praying on his knees when MMY walked into the office). Carter felt that MMY was a threat to Christianity and determined to meet the enemy and find a way to derail him -- fortunately, like most of Carter's muddled thinking, the CIA's efforts fizzled out. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The Adult category seems to have been removed
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Adult category seems to have been removed
Yes. We've been reassigned back to Spirituality. Now we can get back to our regular conversations of insulting each other and blaming all our problems on everyone else. Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:58 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Is this true? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Adult category seems to have been removed
on 12/23/05 3:58 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this true? Yes. We're back in the spiritual category. One of our members found the right people to talk to at Yahoo. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Adult category seems to have been removed
On the other hand, FairfieldLife still doesn't show up on a search of groups. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: True Believers and Fundamentalists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some appear to be into self-flatulation. True, but look at the bright side: ultimately, it may reveal which technique is more powerful, Yogic Flying or Tantralokan Drooling. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Adult category seems to have been removed
on 12/23/05 4:01 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, FairfieldLife still doesn't show up on a search of groups. They said it might take a few days for everything to get back to normal. If that's not fixed in a week, we'll look into it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Settings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/23/05 12:40 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/23/05 8:46 AM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my fiber optic line finally repaired, I can host files on my personal web server. With Yahoo's ridiculously small allotted disk space, it might not be a bad idea to host some content elsewhere. And, with photos, there's the additional benefit of files not being downsized, as they are on Yahoo. I've created the directory, and if there's any interest, gimme a shout. http://alex.natel.net/ffl/ How would this work? Could people upload files or would they send them to you to upload? People would have to email me the files. I'm not comfortable giving people FTP access to the server. Sounds good to me. I could add it to the Group Guidelines. What email address would you like to use? In case Yahoo mail has size limits on attachments, it would be best to send files to xntrik at natel dot net. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beginner's Mind film review...
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen any of Jackson's early films? Such as Meet the Feebles and Bad Taste? Feebles is like the muppets on acid and quite a hoot. I can see from these why studio execs had confidence Jackson could bring in LotR as these films had some good special effects produced on a low budget. I've seen Heavenly Creatures, but not the others. If you see King Kong, watch for three scenes that are just magic -- two parallel scenes with Kong and Anne sitting watching the sunset, and one scene with Kong discovering ice in Central Park. These scenes alone would have made the purchase price of the film worth it for me. For you and the other LA folks I watched the Z Channel documentary last night and was reminded that for those of us who were living in Seattle in the 1970's we had a similar experience but with a chain of theaters that mainly played foreign and art house films. In the 1970's I rarely saw a Hollywood film. Many of the films talked about in the documentary I saw in those theaters. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
This is not the case--but I honestly don't think you'll convince many people at all that if you give money to Mahesh or practice his McMeditation you're going to stop tsunamis.On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:19 PM, feste37 wrote:Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of others. I would say MMY passes that test to all but the most cynical observers. It seems that you see no value at all in what he has done. I would call you a TN (true nonbeliever), which is a bit like being a TB in the sense that you have to ignore huge swaths of evidence in order to maintain your point of view, come hell or high water. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Ted Turner is another example. He paved the way for world-wide, instant news (while it currently has it excesses, overall it is a great development, IMO.) And he had given much of his fortune away. Over one billion I think to the UN. When we were in Montana we came across this huge fenced in range filled with Bison that Ted had bought to help save this species. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you implying they/he gave nothing? Not even a small amount? I'm sure many have died due to these faulty beliefs--really just extortion schemes. No, they died due to the disasters, as you know. No, I was referring specifically to people Mahesh had convinced his brand of Ayurveda would cure them of fatal illness. Then when they died he sent people to collect the money off the begrieved families. I suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding stress in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in human terms, is what is responsible for natural disasters, things that have been going on, by all accounts, for millions of years, long before humans came on the scene? And, if you do, how is this different from any other superstition? I could have sworn I just said I didn't believe it, but I didn't rule it out. Let me see... looking down Why, yes, that's exactly what I said. Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote: I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an explanation as any for such a notion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable and awesomely radical endless pipes, huge papayas gently falling when you are hungry, and ever righteous babes everywhere on the beach. And when there is a tamasic vibe coming from earth, the sea gods get pissed and shake all over, and this causes Tsunamis. That's after you fellas try to hit on the righteous babes. Duh. Where have you been girl? Not on the beach, apparently... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, How, exactly, will the amount of people practicing TM affect the number of tsunamis, (or anything else relating to them) seeing as how the cause of those are far beneath the ocean? Yes, I know the silliness the TMO tries to perpetrate on how we can affect natural disasters, but do you really believe that? And, if you do, how exactly do you think that would happen? Sal Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think for every natural disaster that strikes, we should set up giant loudspeakers and blast either Barry Manilow or Ozzy at full volume right above the offending ocean, or mountain, or whatever else has the nerve to unstress on us. That would teach em. Same thing with anyone who gives as silly answers as Patrick and Judy have. Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are reporting someone else said. I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. Sal I am music, and I write the soongs I can feel the earth starting to tremble already. :) On Dec 23, 2005, at 2:53 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable and awesomely radical endless pipes, huge papayas gently falling when you are hungry, and ever righteous babes everywhere on the beach. And when there is a tamasic vibe coming from earth, the sea gods get pissed and shake all over, and this causes Tsunamis. Duh. Where have you been girl? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are reporting someone else said. Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to. A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you implying they/he gave nothing? Not even a small amount? I'm sure many have died due to these faulty beliefs--really just extortion schemes. No, they died due to the disasters, as you know. No, I was referring specifically to people Mahesh had convinced his brand of Ayurveda would cure them of fatal illness. Then when they died he sent people to collect the money off the begrieved families. Oh, a non sequitur, I see. I suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are reporting someone else said. Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. Reading comprehension, Sal. Next time try reading what I *actually* say instead of what you need to believe I'm saying. I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to. A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
You're evading the point and also attributing to me an argument I never put forward. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not the case--but I honestly don't think you'll convince many people at all that if you give money to Mahesh or practice his McMeditation you're going to stop tsunamis. On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:19 PM, feste37 wrote: Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of others. I would say MMY passes that test to all but the most cynical observers. It seems that you see no value at all in what he has done. I would call you a TN (true nonbeliever), which is a bit like being a TB in the sense that you have to ignore huge swaths of evidence in order to maintain your point of view, come hell or high water. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Settings
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) > > > > According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters > > is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress > > in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number > > and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an > > explanation as any for such a notion. It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid facts. I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. > > Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if you agree to take one in Basic English. Sal > On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:59 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly > > to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, > > with that person *advocating* what they are reporting > > someone else said. > > Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you > were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it > sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. Reading comprehension, Sal. Next time try reading what I *actually* say instead of what you need to believe I'm saying. > > I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. > > That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to. > > > A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. > > Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are reporting someone else said. Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to. A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :) But they need to build your focus and then test whether you can read during Barry Manilow or Ozzzy blaring. Or being a John Cage fan, while both are playing, preferably 100 songs each all at the same cacophonatic time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are reporting someone else said. Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. Reading comprehension, Sal. Next time try reading what I *actually* say instead of what you need to believe I'm saying. WHAT! and take all the fun out of FFL? I get my daily amusment from reading such responses. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Hey, don't go knocking DC comics now. It might upset the Sea Gods. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?)   According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters  is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress  in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number  and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an  explanation as any for such a notion. It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid facts. I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if you agree to take one in Basic English. Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:59 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote:  Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly  to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said,  with that person *advocating* what they are reporting  someone else said. Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. Reading comprehension, Sal. Next time try reading what I *actually* say instead of what you need to believe I'm saying.  I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to.  A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ⪠ Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web.  ⪠ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ⪠ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
Perish the thought. I loved em. Sal On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Hey, don't go knocking DC comics now. It might upset the Sea Gods. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply > reporting what some else has said even though you state that it > seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what > other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other > than DC Comics?) > > > > > > According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters > > > is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress > > > in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number > > > and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an > > > explanation as any for such a notion. > > It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your > belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid > facts. > > I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. > > > > Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. > > Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if > you agree to take one in Basic English. > > Sal > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:59 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly > > > > to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, > > > > with that person *advocating* what they are reporting > > > > someone else said. > > > > > > Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you > > > were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it > > > sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. > > > > Reading comprehension, Sal. Next time try reading what > > I *actually* say instead of what you need to believe I'm > > saying. > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. > > > > > > That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to. > > > > > > > A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. > > > > > > Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > â–ª  Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web. > >  > > â–ª  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >  > > â–ª  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable and awesomely radical endless pipes, huge papayas gently falling when you are hungry, and ever righteous babes everywhere on the beach. And when there is a tamasic vibe coming from earth, the sea gods get pissed and shake all over, and this causes Tsunamis. That's after you fellas try to hit on the righteous babes. You must be going to some tamasic beach then. At surf satvic city, there is no hitting on anyone, its just all mutual love in the air. (well to be honest, on the ground too.) Even on those fabled days when there are two girls for every guy. Thats cuz half the dudes are doing holy tapas to the surf gods. Its like totally in-tune with nature here, even In my Room. And its global waves of satva. Its happening even Back in the USSR. I mean like all the goddesses did descend at once to incarnate as the eternal blonde Surfer Girl. Like Sri Barbara Ann. And Sri Rhonda. We are all going to have fun, fun fun till her daddy (Indra) takes the T-Bird (the sign of the holy cross, the similtanaity of unity and diversity, ocean and wave) away (but thats in the next yuga, so party on dude). Ne way, I Get Around to every part of infinity, the wave reflecting the whole ocean. Wouldn't It Be Nice if everyone could just BE and dig this. Duh. Where have you been girl? Not on the beach, apparently... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are reporting someone else said. Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable that you were advocating such nonsense, even thought that's exactly what it sounded like. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm afraid neither Barry Manilow nor Ozzy would help. That's the whole idea--they're not supposed to. A good course in reading comprehension, perhaps. Great idea, Judy. Enjoy. :) But they need to build your focus and then test whether you can read during Barry Manilow or Ozzzy blaring. Or being a John Cage fan, while both are playing, preferably 100 songs each all at the same cacophonatic time. I apologize to all for my, above, violent outbursts of wrath, rage and anger at Barry Manilow. I was not even aware of it until a trained professional pointed it out (trained as a snake charmer, but hey he is still a professional.) Apparently ever since the 70's I have had this huge rage against Barry Manilow and the type of music he writes. Though I do giggle hysterically whenever I meet a girl named Mandy. But according to the professional, thats just my denial hitting the walls of my inner latent anger that I didn't even know existed -- and which manifests in huge tnsumi sized waves of rage -- even though I am giggling on the surface. Anyway apologies for letting my rage against mediocre music spoil your christmas spirit. When I am in Brahamn, I hope I can recognize Manilow as THAT. I mean that should be the real acid test of liberation, yes? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
---Yeah but the Fundie's have won the battle (not the long term war). Since Carter's Presidency, the Fundies have more or less Shangheid the executive branch of government, with plenty of right-wing big brass Fundies (even going back to the Reagan era - e.g. Oliver North) , secreted in high places within the pentagon, CIA, NSA, etc. As to numbers, the TM Movement has almost become extinct but the fundie Evangelical movement has burgeoned into a humongous powerhouse of influence. You could probably count the numbers of active TM'ers in the US in the thousands (a few thousand); but the largest Megachurch in the US (in Houston- televangelist Joel Osteen) , draws in 20,000 every Sunday. Even small towns all across the Midwest practically have a Church for the fundies in every square mile. They're coming out of the woodwork. Something stronger than TM-ocide spray will be needed to deal with the pestilence. Somebody - some remarkable Guru - must appear on the scene with a visible demonstration of Siddhis. And Fundie Carter's, Magnum Opus was the big fuck-up in Iran. He allowed Ayatholla Khomeni to take power. I think, he sent just three helicopters. OriginalMessage- From: bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:23:15 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test Guru Bev's old digs on campus did contain an $18,000 marble bathroom -- however, he now lives in Vedic City when he's not in Vlodrop -- no word on the marbleness of his toilet. Maharishi was a target of the CIA because he was targeted by that peanut-farming moron, Jimmy Carter. Rick Archer has posted here before about MMY's meeting with Carter in the Georgia governor's office not long before Carter became President (a hilarious scene -- Carter praying on his knees when MMY walked into the office). Carter felt that MMY was a threat to Christianity and determined to meet the enemy and find a way to derail him -- fortunately, like most of Carter's muddled thinking, the CIA's efforts fizzled out. - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Yeah but the Fundie's have won the battle (not the long term war). Since Carter's Presidency, the Fundies have more or less Shangheid the executive branch of government, with plenty of right-wing big brass Fundies (even going back to the Reagan era - e.g. Oliver North) , secreted in high places within the pentagon, CIA, NSA, etc. As to numbers, the TM Movement has almost become extinct but the fundie Evangelical movement has burgeoned into a humongous powerhouse of influence. You could probably count the numbers of active TM'ers in the US in the thousands (a few thousand); but the largest Megachurch in the US (in Houston- televangelist Joel Osteen) , draws in 20,000 every Sunday. Even small towns all across the Midwest practically have a Church for the fundies in every square mile. They're coming out of the woodwork. Something stronger than TM-ocide spray will be needed to deal with the pestilence. Somebody - some remarkable Guru - must appear on the scene with a visible demonstration of Siddhis. And Fundie Carter's, Magnum Opus was the big fuck-up in Iran. He allowed Ayatholla Khomeni to take power. I think, he sent just three helicopters. OriginalMessage- From: bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:23:15 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test Guru Bev's old digs on campus did contain an $18,000 marble bathroom -- however, he now lives in Vedic City when he's not in Vlodrop -- no word on the marbleness of his toilet. Maharishi was a target of the CIA because he was targeted by that peanut-farming moron, Jimmy Carter. Rick Archer has posted here before about MMY's meeting with Carter in the Georgia governor's office not long before Carter became President (a hilarious scene -- Carter praying on his knees when MMY walked into the office). Carter felt that MMY was a threat to Christianity and determined to meet the enemy and find a way to derail him -- fortunately, like most of Carter's muddled thinking, the CIA's efforts fizzled out. Or the Beach Boys could make a come back -- with number one hits and albumns -- and sold out concerts -- that would be just as miraculous. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless.   According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters  is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress  in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number  and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an  explanation as any for such a notion. In case you aren't just pretending to be stupid for some unfathomable reason, read the above again and see if you can figure out why your question at the top, in light of what I actually wrote, is nonsensical. Hint: pay particular attention to the last sentence. It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid facts. I believe the only fact I cited in this specific connection is what MMY has said about why he believes mass meditation will reduce natural disasters. I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. I understand that you're incapable of comprehending the nature of skepticism, given that you yourself are a confirmed skeptopath. Too bad; that is rather limiting. Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if you agree to take one in Basic English. No, sorry, my English is fine. But you desperately need some serious tutoring. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Braaaman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory August 17, 2005 | Issue 4133 KANSAS CITY, KSAs the debate over the teaching of evolution in public schools continues, a new controversy over the science curriculum arose Monday in this embattled Midwestern state. Scientists from the Evangelical Center For Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held theory of gravity is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling. Rev. Gabriel Burdett (left) explains Intelligent Falling. Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down, said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University. Do we need more controversy- It doesn't work in space, would that indicate a push shortage N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply > reporting what some else has said even though you state that it > seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, > what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I > mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Alright, Judy, I'll try one more time to make some sense of what you are trying to say. You don't believe natural disasters are caused by stress in the environment, or that meditation can affect natural disasters, except that it seems as good an explanation as any. What any others are, you don't say. You don't believe it, but you don't rule it out either. And, as far as stating things that yo do or don't believe, I could have sworn it was you who said, a while back, I don't tend to say things I don't believe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/80257 Or maybe I was dreaming that too. Whatever. In any case, thanks for the clear, concise answers as to why you accept the pablum of the TMO so readily. And how your beliefs are based on solid, rational thought. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, Is that what they call a backwards compliment? Or is it the famous passive-aggressivness Dr. Peter finds everywhere. but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Or just straight out insulting. I get so confused.   According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters  is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress  in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number  and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an  explanation as any for such a notion. In case you aren't just pretending to be stupid for some unfathomable reason, I would vote for passive-aggressive-backwards-insulting-patronization. read the above again and see if you can figure out why your question at the top, in light of what I actually wrote, is nonsensical. um, patronizing? is that what its called? Or Condescending? Damn, I get my insults all mixed up. Best left to professionals I guess. Hint: pay particular attention to the last sentence. Ah, I know that one, really really I do. Call on me. Thats 'sarcasm.'! It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid facts. I believe the only fact I cited in this specific connection is what MMY has said about why he believes mass meditation will reduce natural disasters. I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. I understand that you're incapable of comprehending the nature of skepticism, hmm, I would vote straight out insult on that one. given that you yourself are a confirmed skeptopath. another point in the straight out insult bin. Too bad; that is rather limiting. hmm, snide skeptiticism combined with patronization? Did I get it right? Did I get it right? Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if you agree to take one in Basic English. No, sorry, my English is fine. But you desperately need some serious tutoring. Rudeness? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Alright, Judy, I'll try one more time to make some sense of what you are trying to say. You don't believe natural disasters are caused by stress in the environment, or that meditation can affect natural disasters, except that it seems as good an explanation as any. What any others are, you don't say. You don't believe it, but you don't rule it out either. And, as far as stating things that yo do or don't believe, I could have sworn it was you who said, a while back, I don't tend to say things I don't believe. Damn. A response without insults or patronization etc. SAL! You don't know how to play this game, do you?!!! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/80257 Or maybe I was dreaming that too. Ah ha. Slight sarcasm. Now you are getting the hang of it. Whatever. Wow, Dismissiveness. a three pointer! In any case, thanks for the clear, concise answers as to why you accept the pablum of the TMO so readily. Good. Heavy sarcasm. Sal, you are a bit slow from the starting blocks, but a quick study. And how your beliefs are based on solid, rational thought. Sal Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:45 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Damn. A response without insults or patronization etc. SAL! You don't know how to play this game, do you?!!! I guess not. Obviously, I'm tired. I think you got it all pinned down pretty well--insults, rude remarks, sarcasm...that's an astute analysis! You get an 'A'. :) Sal
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No, no Sal. That's why Mahesh and crew don't need to donate at such a gross level, they believe this. Judy's not sure what she believes. Or so her posts indicate.On Dec 23, 2005, at 8:36 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply "reporting what some else has said" even though you state that it "seems as good an explanation as any" (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Alright, Judy, I'll try one more time to make some sense of what you are trying to say. You don't believe natural disasters are caused by "stress" in the environment, or that meditation can affect natural disasters, except that it seems as good an explanation as any. What "any" others are, you don't say. You don't believe it, but you don't rule it out either. And, as far as stating things that yo do or don't believe, I could have sworn it was you who said, a while back, "I don't tend to say things I don't believe." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Alright, Judy, I'll try one more time to make some sense of what you are trying to say. I do sincerely hope that you aren't *really* trying to make some sense of what I was saying, because if that's the case, I can't imagine how you manage to tie your shoes. If it's just a pretense, of course, it isn't very attractive, but at least it's potentially curable. You don't believe natural disasters are caused by stress in the environment, or that meditation can affect natural disasters, except that it seems as good an explanation as any. What any others are, you don't say. You don't believe it, but you don't rule it out either. And, as far as stating things that yo do or don't believe, I could have sworn it was you who said, a while back, I don't tend to say things I don't believe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/80257 Or maybe I was dreaming that too. Whatever. In any case, thanks for the clear, concise answers as to why you accept the pablum of the TMO so readily. And how your beliefs are based on solid, rational thought. Sal Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, Is that what they call a backwards compliment? Or is it the famous passive-aggressivness Dr. Peter finds everywhere. but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Or just straight out insulting. I get so confused. Odd that you don't seem to find the nature of Sal's remarks to me confusing.   According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters  is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress  in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number  and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an  explanation as any for such a notion. In case you aren't just pretending to be stupid for some unfathomable reason, I would vote for passive-aggressive-backwards-insulting- patronization. read the above again and see if you can figure out why your question at the top, in light of what I actually wrote, is nonsensical. um, patronizing? is that what its called? Or Condescending? Damn, I get my insults all mixed up. Best left to professionals I guess. Hint: pay particular attention to the last sentence. Ah, I know that one, really really I do. Call on me. Thats 'sarcasm.'! It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid facts. I believe the only fact I cited in this specific connection is what MMY has said about why he believes mass meditation will reduce natural disasters. I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. I understand that you're incapable of comprehending the nature of skepticism, hmm, I would vote straight out insult on that one. given that you yourself are a confirmed skeptopath. another point in the straight out insult bin. Too bad; that is rather limiting. hmm, snide skeptiticism combined with patronization? Did I get it right? Did I get it right? Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if you agree to take one in Basic English. No, sorry, my English is fine. But you desperately need some serious tutoring. Rudeness? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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on 12/23/05 6:21 PM, matrixmonitor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Yeah but the Fundie's have won the battle (not the long term war). Since Carter's Presidency, the Fundies have more or less Shangheid the executive branch of government, with plenty of right-wing big brass Fundies (even going back to the Reagan era - e.g. Oliver North) , secreted in high places within the pentagon, CIA, NSA, etc. As to numbers, the TM Movement has almost become extinct but the fundie Evangelical movement has burgeoned into a humongous powerhouse of influence. You could probably count the numbers of active TM'ers in the US in the thousands (a few thousand); but the largest Megachurch in the US (in Houston- televangelist Joel Osteen) , draws in 20,000 every Sunday. Even small towns all across the Midwest practically have a Church for the fundies in every square mile. They're coming out of the woodwork. Something stronger than TM-ocide spray will be needed to deal with the pestilence. Somebody - some remarkable Guru - must appear on the scene with a visible demonstration of Siddhis. Unless he could convince them he was Christ, they'd probably kill him. And to convince them of that, he would have to massacre the non-Christians, because that's what they're expecting the Big Guy to do. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read-- I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Alright, Judy, I'll try one more time to make some sense of what you are trying to say. You don't believe natural disasters are caused by stress in the environment, or that meditation can affect natural disasters, except that it seems as good an explanation as any. What any others are, you don't say. You don't believe it, but you don't rule it out either. And, as far as stating things that yo do or don't believe, I could have sworn it was you who said, a while back, I don't tend to say things I don't believe. Damn. A response without insults or patronization etc. SAL! You don't know how to play this game, do you?!!! Oh, really, she's trying *so* hard, but she just isn't very good at it. Apparently she did manage to confuse you, but that's not much of an achievement, considering. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/80257 Or maybe I was dreaming that too. Ah ha. Slight sarcasm. Now you are getting the hang of it. Whatever. Wow, Dismissiveness. a three pointer! In any case, thanks for the clear, concise answers as to why you accept the pablum of the TMO so readily. Good. Heavy sarcasm. Sal, you are a bit slow from the starting blocks, but a quick study. And how your beliefs are based on solid, rational thought. Sal Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an explanation as any (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?) Sal, I am absolutely positive that you are not as completely brainless as you are making yourself sound here, Is that what they call a backwards compliment? Or is it the famous passive-aggressivness Dr. Peter finds everywhere. but I'm durned if I know *why* you'd want to make yourself sound brainless. Or just straight out insulting. I get so confused. Odd that you don't seem to find the nature of Sal's remarks to me confusing. About 10% confusing. But for the most part, she made some valid points, IMO. Though, to be honest, I am not sure why neither of you thinks its wise to be (or even pretend to be) the better person and say ok, it get the point you were making and then bite your tongue -- not dwell on phrasing -- which seems to be more of an ego war. Though I give Sal some points for being less drawn into ego wars. ===   According to MMY, the root cause of natural disasters  is stress, as you know. Reducing the levels of stress  in the atmosphere will therefore reduce the number  and severity of natural disasters. Seems as good an  explanation as any for such a notion. In case you aren't just pretending to be stupid for some unfathomable reason, I would vote for passive-aggressive-backwards-insulting- patronization. read the above again and see if you can figure out why your question at the top, in light of what I actually wrote, is nonsensical. um, patronizing? is that what its called? Or Condescending? Damn, I get my insults all mixed up. Best left to professionals I guess. Hint: pay particular attention to the last sentence. Ah, I know that one, really really I do. Call on me. Thats 'sarcasm.'! It's sure nice to know that none of the TMO silliness is part of your belief system, and that you base all your arguments on good, solid facts. I believe the only fact I cited in this specific connection is what MMY has said about why he believes mass meditation will reduce natural disasters. I don't believe it, but I don't rule it out either. Oh. Yes, that sure clears things up. I understand that you're incapable of comprehending the nature of skepticism, hmm, I would vote straight out insult on that one. given that you yourself are a confirmed skeptopath. another point in the straight out insult bin. Too bad; that is rather limiting. hmm, snide skeptiticism combined with patronization? Did I get it right? Did I get it right? Tell you what, Judy. I'll take a course on reading comprehension if you agree to take one in Basic English. No, sorry, my English is fine. But you desperately need some serious tutoring. Rudeness? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
