[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because Exercise isn't part of our tradition. That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha. according to wikipedia, sedentary lifestyle is one of the risk factors that are modifiable; some risk factors like genetic predispositon cannot be modified. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiovascular_disease However, unless Maharishi was cautioning against western exercise methods specifically (like going to the gym), i find his statement odd, in light of what his own Maharishi Ayurveda posts on its website, to the contrary: Q: How does one know what kind of exercise to do? A: Vedic exercise, such as Yoga and Sun Salutes, are the most highly regarded forms of exercise in Maharishi Ayurveda, because they rejuvenate and purify the body at a subtle level. Walking is also an excellent form of exercise for almost anyone, and is gentle enough for Vata types. Swimming is ideal for Pitta types, and most Kapha types have a greater capacity for longer and more intense exercise. http://mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurveda_health_tips.html a vigorous round of a dozen Salutes to the Sun should be enough to cut the risk of too much sitting; and what about all the hopping purusha men do; or do they?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/ Scroll down further below on the website and you'll get the idea. This is just the off-campus things going on in the meditating community. It's a pretty good place. For spiritual vampires - as long as it lasts... -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life
What's Brad and Metilda Wagnor up to these days. And whatever happened to Steve Harclirode (sp)? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Gillam Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life Gossip Opportunity: I see the Divine Mother workshop was led by the Rev. Connie Huebner. Are she and David still married? What's he doing? Still married and doing fine. I don't know what he does for a living. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jymbonic Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard He was a jolly guy who I hadn't thought of in years. RIP indeed Scotty. The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purush they shouldn't exercise Reference please ! because Exercise isn't part of our tradition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because Exercise isn't part of our tradition. That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha. according to wikipedia, sedentary lifestyle is one of the risk factors that are modifiable; some risk factors like genetic predispositon cannot be modified. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiovascular_disease However, unless Maharishi was cautioning against western exercise methods specifically (like going to the gym), i find his statement odd, in light of what his own Maharishi Ayurveda posts on its website, to the contrary: Q: How does one know what kind of exercise to do? A: Vedic exercise, such as Yoga and Sun Salutes, are the most highly regarded forms of exercise in Maharishi Ayurveda, because they rejuvenate and purify the body at a subtle level. Walking is also an excellent form of exercise for almost anyone, and is gentle enough for Vata types. Swimming is ideal for Pitta types, and most Kapha types have a greater capacity for longer and more intense exercise. http://mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurveda_health_tips.html a vigorous round of a dozen Salutes to the Sun should be enough to cut the risk of too much sitting; and what about all the hopping purusha men do; or do they? Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they’re not a spammer. What if they're a sincere spammer? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
In a message dated 1/26/08 10:59:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn’t exercise because “Exercise isn’t part of our tradition.” Incredible! And in that culture for thousands of years people walked everywhere they went, carried heavy loads and in general were very active, at the same time consuming small amounts of food once or twice a day. I sure hope M's instructions aren't mistaken and induce lathargy. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter'
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think? What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. Seems fair enough, Rick. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because Exercise isn't part of our tradition. That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha. Pray tell, Doctor Stein, are you saying that there are instances in which exercise is NOT a good thing? Er, Shemp, why do you think they always say, Check with your doctor before beginning any exercise program? In any case, that isn't what I actually said, if you'll read it again. There may be instances, in other words, in which exercise is a good thing but wouldn't prevent or remedy specific cardiovascular conditions, contrary to Rick's implication. Besides knowing what specific cardiovascular condition this guy had, we would also need to know what *type* of exercise MMY had been asked about. If the guy's condition was well advanced by the time he joined Purusha, exercise such as weight-lifting or vigorous aerobic exercise might actually have been very dangerous. In general, exercise is a good thing, but there are a lot of variables.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
Scott was a really great guy. Sattvic, authentic, very intelligent and, as you say, quite jolly! A very good man. --- jymbonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was a jolly guy who I hadn't thought of in years. RIP indeed Scotty. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
In a message dated 1/27/08 7:35:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides knowing what specific cardiovascular condition this guy had, we would also need to know what *type* of exercise MMY had been asked about. If the guy's condition was well advanced by the time he joined Purusha, exercise such as weight-lifting or vigorous aerobic exercise might actually have been very dangerous. In general, exercise is a good thing, but there are a lot of variables. The last time I saw Scott, back in the 80's, he was a bit *chubby* and I believe he had been on Purusha since it's inception, back in the 70's. M's instructions since I can remember have been that we don't exert ourselves. If the house catches fire, we walk out, don't run for anything. Chances are Scott's weight, along with probably a high fat and carb diet, ghee, rice, bread and sweets etc. along with a sedentary life style, with minimal physical exertion, caused plaque build up in his arteries and possibly thickening of the heart's walls which leads to heart failure. From what I knew of Scott, he was as close to a saint as anybody in the TM movement and probably much more so than many of it's current leaders. I never heard him tell anybody how they should or should not be or to live their lives. I never heard a critical or harmful word from his mouth and he definitely wasn't on any power trip, trying to exert authority over anybody. Scott will be missed. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Nab, so who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers wise, how many are still maintaining the purity of the teaching ? I mean, you can't be half way on this thing, and not expect diaster, right?
[FairfieldLife] The Ability To Inspire (was Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter')
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: A President Like My Father By CAROLINE KENNEDY All my life, people have told me that my father changed their lives, that they got involved in public service or politics because he asked them to. And the generation he inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals. Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible. snip the rest. You get the point. Ms. Kennedy feels the same breath of fresh air coming from Barack Obama that I do, that all-important Ability To Inspire. It's important, but not ALL-important. You have to be able to follow through and know what to *do* with the inspiration and have the experience and ability to carry it off. Plus which, inspiration isn't always benign, depending on exactly what great ideals the inspirer has in mind. Osama bin Laden was able to start a movement because he could inspire people. Likewise Hitler and various other historical villains. (No, I'm not saying Obama has such evil goals. But I'm not at all sure he has what it takes to follow through on what he preaches. I'm just saying we need to look a little deeper than just inspiration.) snip The people who flocked to learn TM by the thousands in the 70s weren't coming because of the intro lectures and the scientific studies. They were coming because of US, the teachers. We were fuckin' INSPIRED! snip Those who talk nobly about wanting to change the TM movement, to make it better or more responsive, to get it back to what it was -- they're all missing the point too as far as I can tell. *They* aren't inspired, either...they're frustrated. So the people they talk to and hope to get on change the TMO band- wagon with them sense the frustration, and the *same* amount of inspiration that they feel from the TMO itself -- none. Seems to me the idea is to go back to the original inspiration, to what inspired the teachers of the '70s. That was partly due to Maharishi personally, but also to the teachers' experience of the technique and to the substance of the knowledge. The basic technique and knowledge haven't changed. Plus which, perhaps one reason MMY made all those videotapes was to preserve the effect of his own inspirational abilities after he could no longer provide inspiration in person.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:53 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Nab, so who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers wise, how many are still maintaining the purity of the teaching ? I mean, you can't be half way on this thing, and not expect diaster, right? There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. And if they *are* sold out to rajasic activity, Nabs, where would they be? In the bars and brothels? :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:50 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. What if they're a sincere spammer? Sal Doesn't matter, as long as they are sincere rumourmongers they are more than welcome. ;-) Amen, brother. Always figured you were a closet rumorholic, Nabs. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. What if they're a sincere spammer? Sal Doesn't matter, as long as they are sincere rumourmongers they are more than welcome. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/27/08 7:35:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides knowing what specific cardiovascular condition this guy had, we would also need to know what *type* of exercise MMY had been asked about. If the guy's condition was well advanced by the time he joined Purusha, exercise such as weight-lifting or vigorous aerobic exercise might actually have been very dangerous. In general, exercise is a good thing, but there are a lot of variables. The last time I saw Scott, back in the 80's, he was a bit *chubby* and I believe he had been on Purusha since it's inception, back in the 70's. M's instructions since I can remember have been that we don't exert ourselves. If the house catches fire, we walk out, don't run for anything. Chances are Scott's weight, along with probably a high fat and carb diet, ghee, rice, bread and sweets etc. along with a sedentary life style, with minimal physical exertion, caused plaque build up in his arteries and possibly thickening of the heart's walls which leads to heart failure. From what I knew of Scott, he was as close to a saint as anybody in the TM movement and probably much more so than many of it's current leaders. I never heard him tell anybody how they should or should not be or to live their lives. I never heard a critical or harmful word from his mouth and he definitely wasn't on any power trip, trying to exert authority over anybody. Scott will be missed. You nailed it regarding Scott. One of the good guys. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Nab, so who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers wise, how many are still maintaining the purity of the teaching ? I mean, you can't be half way on this thing, and not expect diaster, right? There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:50 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. What if they're a sincere spammer? Sal Doesn't matter, as long as they are sincere rumourmongers they are more than welcome. ;-) Amen, brother. Always figured you were a closet rumorholic, Nabs. :) Sal You are right. If not for the regular rumours about the sex-life of other people kindly provided by Rich Archer I would definately not visit this place !
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:53 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Nab, so who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers wise, how many are still maintaining the purity of the teaching ? I mean, you can't be half way on this thing, and not expect diaster, right? There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. And if they *are* sold out to rajasic activity, Nabs, where would they be? In the bars and brothels? :) Sal Anywhere in the USA will do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . ..Nothing lasts for long.. . . .. . . Thanks for posting this. She was the soundtrack of my youth and now she nails another stage. Great artist! So many great lines. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ggVj2ZNEl0 CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY Lyrics - Joni Mitchell Caught in the middle Carol, we're middle class We're middle aged We were wild in the old days Birth of rock 'n roll days Now your kids are coming up straight And my child's a stranger I bore her But, I could not raise her Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- Oh my love, my darling One more time Uranium money Is booming in the old home town now It's putting up sleek concrete Tearing the old landmarks down now Paving over brave little parks Ripping off Indian land again How long--how long Short sighted business men Ah, nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- You give your love, so sweetly One more time Christmas is sparkling Out on Carol's lawn This girl of my childhood games With kids nearly grown and gone Grown so fast Like the turn of a page We look like our mothers did now When we were those kids' age Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- Oh my love, my darling I've hungered for your touch A long lonely time And time goes by so slowly And time can do so much Are you still mine? I need your love I need your love God speed your love to me. (Time goes--where does the time go-- I wonder where the time goes. . .)
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
This is an insight into MMY's mind. Let's look at his assertion at face value. How did the guys in his tradition live? The only people we know are in his tradition are remembered in the puja, so skipping past the obviously mythological characters, we find some people whose lifestyles we can use to determine what he was talking about. Shukadeva was a nudist who lived outside. In fact we see that Guru Dev, who was also a famous camper (but clothed), may have encountered indoor plumbing for the first time at Jotir Math. (that is if it has indoor pluming?) So if we are going to take the lifestyles of the tradition seriously then Purusha is missing a huge component of that lifestyle: they lived lives with built in physical activity. Just taking a bath for these guys might involve walking down to a river or stream. They were outdoorsmen who could see their breath on cold days (North India gets cold) when they went for a morning...how to put this delicately so as not to offend...Oh I know, moving from the fullness of fullness to the fullness of emptiness! How they DIDN'T live was sitting on foam or in front of computers as Nabby pointed out. They didn't live in the artificially heated and cooled environments of modern man. They didn't have parkas. So like a lot of stuff that comes out of MMY's mouth, this statement doesn't make any sense. It just reveals his contempt for modern science and medicine. So let's all use our saliva to wash out our eyes in the morning as was recommended in the early days of Ayur Veda, and NEVER work up a sweat! Then Purusha can all look like all the elderly people we see around us who didn't live an active lifestyle. Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because Exercise isn't part of our tradition. That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha. Pray tell, Doctor Stein, are you saying that there are instances in which exercise is NOT a good thing? I was going to make a similar comment. I'm no medical expert, but I can't imagine a cardiologist telling anyone that exercise wouldn't benefit them, unless they were so ill that the slightest exertion might kill them. I've seen people in their 90's who had gotten proper exercise all their lives and could still run, ski, etc. Maharishi, who has been sedentary, has been bound to a wheelchair for several years. If non-exercise is part of his tradition, then the tradition is deficient. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
. . ..Nothing lasts for long.. . . .. . . Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ggVj2ZNEl0 CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY Lyrics - Joni Mitchell Caught in the middle Carol, we're middle class We're middle aged We were wild in the old days Birth of rock 'n roll days Now your kids are coming up straight And my child's a stranger I bore her But, I could not raise her Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- Oh my love, my darling One more time Uranium money Is booming in the old home town now It's putting up sleek concrete Tearing the old landmarks down now Paving over brave little parks Ripping off Indian land again How long--how long Short sighted business men Ah, nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- You give your love, so sweetly One more time Christmas is sparkling Out on Carol's lawn This girl of my childhood games With kids nearly grown and gone Grown so fast Like the turn of a page We look like our mothers did now When we were those kids' age Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- Oh my love, my darling I've hungered for your touch A long lonely time And time goes by so slowly And time can do so much Are you still mine? I need your love I need your love God speed your love to me. (Time goes--where does the time go-- I wonder where the time goes. . .)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:58 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. And if they *are* sold out to rajasic activity, Nabs, where would they be? In the bars and brothels? :) Sal Anywhere in the USA will do. Hey, Fairfield's clean. We're down to only about 25 or so bars, and they closed the escort service last week. Not enough Purushas to make it worthwhile. :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:57 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:50 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. What if they're a sincere spammer? Sal Doesn't matter, as long as they are sincere rumourmongers they are more than welcome. ;-) Amen, brother. Always figured you were a closet rumorholic, Nabs. :) Sal You are right. If not for the regular rumours about the sex-life of other people kindly provided by Rich Archer I would definately not visit this place ! Oh, if it weren't for Rick, the mantle would fall on someone else. Who knows--maybe on you? :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
Nabs: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Lurk: who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers Nabs: There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. Sounds like we're down to a handful, which cannot be a good sign.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nabs: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Lurk: who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers Nabs: There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. Sounds like we're down to a handful, which cannot be a good sign. So you know how many Purushas are in the Himalayas do you ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you. That's utter fully insured fool to you Nabby. You do know that name calling is not an argument, but is the demonstration of the lack of one, don't you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. John wrote: Seems fair enough, Rick. Thanks. So, when are you going to stop spamming us?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Real Fairytale...'
Robert wrote: The real fairytale is this: Bill Clinton says that he would support Hillary, Even if he wasn't married to her. Give me a break! How could it be, that Mr.1st Black President- Would turn to the spoiler of: The real first Black Presidential candidate. Liar, liar, pants on fire, Mr. Former President Clinton! Political spam.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Noam's brief history of Merkin terrorism
Ed wrote: Chomsky on World Ownership http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4920 More political spam.
[FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
I have recently joined this group and agree with Rick. I am surprised with every digest I received as to some of the rather negative rantings. You are wasting your time and my time. Find something posititve to focus on. Perhaps go do something of value for someone else. Go meditation, sing a song, do some seva.Uplift someone by appreciating their Divine values. Spread some Love; appreciate all you have and earn some merit. jai guru dev a long time Fairfielder living elsewhere and sending you all love
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
John wrote: Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting Anti-Jewish political propaganda spam. Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting By Michelle Boorstein Washington Post, January 26, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/ysj2xy
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nabs: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Lurk: who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers Nabs: There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. Lurk: Sounds like we're down to a handful, which cannot be a good sign. Nabs: So you know how many Purushas are in the Himalayas do you ? Nabs, are you going to parse handful You tell me how many. I guess probably a couple dozen. In my book, that would be a handful, out of a couple hundered. In fact I have a close connection to one of them. He would definitely pass the grade in your book. I did not know americans was allowed there, but if that is the case why don't you ask him ? My info is that it's definately more than 12. But even that would be suffiscient.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you. That's utter fully insured fool to you Nabby. You do know that name calling is not an argument, but is the demonstration of the lack of one, don't you? I'm not looking for arguments. One of the great things about being on Purusha is exactly this; noy having to discuss with characters like yourself. A very good thing indeed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Rick Archer wrote: Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they're not a spammer. Why can't the informants just post a link to their political spam instead of pasting the whole article? Is it a rule that someone can't post political or anti-religious spam?
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
Nabs: Too many on Purusha prefer PC screens to Suryanamaskara, ceasless activity to Asanas. Lurk: who is left that upholds the teaching in the way it should be upheld? Now that many on Purusha are found to be deficient: numbers Nabs: There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. Lurk: Sounds like we're down to a handful, which cannot be a good sign. Nabs: So you know how many Purushas are in the Himalayas do you ? Nabs, are you going to parse handful You tell me how many. I guess probably a couple dozen. In my book, that would be a handful, out of a couple hundered. In fact I have a close connection to one of them. He would definitely pass the grade in your book.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
I'm not looking for arguments. One of the great things about being on Purusha is exactly this; noy having to discuss with characters like yourself. A very good thing indeed. Since most of my contact with Purusha at the end of my movement life consisted of them hitting my wife and I up for money, I assure you the feeling is mutual. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you. That's utter fully insured fool to you Nabby. You do know that name calling is not an argument, but is the demonstration of the lack of one, don't you? I'm not looking for arguments. One of the great things about being on Purusha is exactly this; noy having to discuss with characters like yourself. A very good thing indeed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I was going to make a similar comment. I'm no medical expert, but I can't imagine a cardiologist telling anyone that exercise wouldn't benefit them, unless they were so ill that the slightest exertion might kill them. False dichotomy. The slightest exertion doesn't have to be enough to kill you for a cardiologist to recommend against vigorous exercise (as opposed to, say, hatha yoga and walking--do we know that Purusha guys don't take walks?). I've seen people in their 90's who had gotten proper exercise all their lives and could still run, ski, etc. As Bob (I think) pointed out, genetics plays a significant role as well. Maharishi, who has been sedentary, has been bound to a wheelchair for several years. If non-exercise is part of his tradition, then the tradition is deficient. That just doesn't follow, Rick. It's certainly a possibility, but it ain't anything like the only possibility. For instance, reportedly he has diabetes, which can cause ghastly foot ulcers, in some cases despite adequate exercise and medication and diet. It could be that his feet are too painful for him to walk. Yes, he's been sedentary, but he's also in his 90s, well beyond standard life expectancy, even though his self-imposed work schedule has been far more grueling for far longer than most people, even those in excellent health, could tolerate. Seems to me he's held up remarkably well under the circumstances, exercise or no exercise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
On Jan 27, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Bonnie Rosen wrote: I have recently joined this group and agree with Rick. I am surprised with every digest I received as to some of the rather negative rantings. You are wasting your time and my time. Find something posititve to focus on. Perhaps go do something of value for someone else. Go meditation, sing a song, do some seva.Uplift someone by appreciating their Divine values. Spread some Love; appreciate all you have and earn some merit. Bonnie, just out of curiosity, do you do this in your own life, all the time? Never a negative word or thought? And always the ability to see the Divine in others, even when you're really ticked at them? What's your secret? I really mean that. And if this is such a waste of your time, why bother to stay? Is your mouse stuck? jai guru dev a long time Fairfielder living elsewhere and sending you all love Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So like a lot of stuff that comes out of MMY's mouth, this statement doesn't make any sense. It just reveals his contempt for modern science and medicine. Well, I sure am not clear as to exactly what MMY was including in the phrase our tradition, or what kind of exercise he was referring to. It might also be important to know what *else* he said in this connection, to have more context for the quoted statement. So it seems to me we don't really have enough information to draw the conclusion you've just come to. You began by saying, Let's look at his assertion at face value. In general, I think the critics of MMY here rely far too much on face value. They seem to lack the imagination to realize how important context can be. Sometimes it can confirm the face value, but other times it shows it in an entirely different light.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
On Jan 27, 2008, at 9:08 AM, do.rflex wrote: CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY Lyrics - Joni Mitchell Caught in the middle Carol, we're middle class We're middle aged We were wild in the old days Birth of rock 'n roll days Now your kids are coming up straight And my child's a stranger I bore her But, I could not raise her Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Nothing lasts for long-- Down at the Chinese Cafe We'd be dreaming on our dimes We'd be playing-- Oh my love, my darling One more time Another great one from Joni, flex, thanks for posting this. Have this song on my computer and just listened to it again. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter'
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:18 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter' A President Like My Father By CAROLINE KENNEDY [snip] I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans. Good! Maybe Barack, like her father, will give us another Vietnam. His predecessor, if he wins, already gave us one. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
I remember Bonnie as having quite a sharp tongue, actually. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Bonnie Rosen wrote: I have recently joined this group and agree with Rick. I am surprised with every digest I received as to some of the rather negative rantings. You are wasting your time and my time. Find something posititve to focus on. Perhaps go do something of value for someone else. Go meditation, sing a song, do some seva.Uplift someone by appreciating their Divine values. Spread some Love; appreciate all you have and earn some merit. Bonnie, just out of curiosity, do you do this in your own life, all the time? Never a negative word or thought? And always the ability to see the Divine in others, even when you're really ticked at them? What's your secret? I really mean that. And if this is such a waste of your time, why bother to stay? Is your mouse stuck? jai guru dev a long time Fairfielder living elsewhere and sending you all love Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bonnie Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently joined this group and agree with Rick. I am surprised with every digest I received as to some of the rather negative rantings. You are wasting your time and my time. Find something posititve to focus on. Perhaps go do something of value for someone else. Go meditation, sing a song, do some seva. Uplift someone by appreciating their Divine values. Spread some Love; appreciate all you have and earn some merit. jai guru dev a long time Fairfielder living elsewhere and sending you all love Bitch, go preach somewhere else
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. You’re not in the Himalayas. Are you sold out to rajasic activity? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip So like a lot of stuff that comes out of MMY's mouth, this statement doesn't make any sense. It just reveals his contempt for modern science and medicine. Well, I sure am not clear as to exactly what MMY was including in the phrase our tradition, or what kind of exercise he was referring to. It might also be important to know what *else* he said in this connection, to have more context for the quoted statement. So it seems to me we don't really have enough information to draw the conclusion you've just come to. That could be the case. You began by saying, Let's look at his assertion at face value. In general, I think the critics of MMY here rely far too much on face value. They seem to lack the imagination to realize how important context can be. Sometimes it can confirm the face value, but other times it shows it in an entirely different light. While I used the term face value, remember that I lived in programs where every hour was programmed by MMY. Vigorous exercise has always been frowned on. Statements like Asanas provide enough exercise were used to guide our activity. MMY is anti weight training and aerobic training, this is a known fact of his fulltime programs. But now all the chickens are coming to roost. If MMY is right his groups of people living under his direction should be the picture of good health. We are entering the area beyond opinions as we see how people age. You can't tell anything by one person, but we will get a better idea with many aging Purusha and Mother Divine. As far as MMy goes,I think his mission is a big key to his longevity. having a purpose seems to be a really important for a long life On the other hand my dad is his age and is much more physically vigorous. But there are so many factors in health we can only pick out what makes sense and run with it. For me it includes weight training and aerobics as well as stretching and balance training. I am hoping that pursuing my music will give my life a focus till the guitar drops from my hands. I have read that many musicians live a long time and I think the activity and expression may help. I'll bet our views on how you and I conduct our own healthy lives are more similar than different.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:21 AM, feste37 wrote: I remember Bonnie as having quite a sharp tongue, actually. She was no pushover, that's for sure. That's one reason this latest shtick is so amusing. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:25 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . ..Nothing lasts for long.. . . . . . . Thanks for posting this. She was the soundtrack of my youth and now she nails another stage. Great artist! So many great lines. I believe this is from Travelogue. It has a lot of the earlier pieces orchestrated and re-assessed. If like many of us you stopped listening (or even liking) Joni when she turned to jazz and Mingus, etc. then you might want to check out her later classic Night Ride Home. NRH is the album created on a journey with her last husband, Larry Klein (great session musician who helped discover Tracey Chapman) on a roadtrip back to her stomping grounds in Canada. NRH returns to Joni's spacious, open-tuning acoustic work which made her famous in the first place. But in this case, she's traveling with a new flame, back home.So the sound is updated and the songs fresh and new. And boy does she write, IMO, some of her best work ever. She even does an incredible job of co-opting Yeats in Slouching Towards Bethlehem, (for which Yates gets a shared writing credit, although Joni changes the lyrics slightly to fit to song). The title track is a great acoustic opener, in a spacious CGDFGC tuning, set to a rhythm track made of crickets chirping. If you ever hopped in a high schools friend's dad's big old gas-hog car back in the days of cheap gasoline--Ray's Dad's Cadillac will grab you. I dig the syncopated rhythm she weaves into it. It's not an album to be missed. A must for that roadtrip or a relaxing time at home.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of suziezuzie Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life What's Brad and Metilda Wagnor up to these days. And whatever happened to Steve Harclirode (sp)? Brad’s around. At one point he had a company that was designing a new golf club. More recently, he was running a furniture store. I don’t know Matilda or Steve. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
Nabs: So you know how many Purushas are in the Himalayas do you ? Lurk: Nabs, are you going to parse handful You tell me how many. I guess probably a couple dozen. In my book, that would be a handful, out of a couple hundered. In fact I have a close connection to one of them. He would definitely pass the grade in your book. Nabs: I did not know americans was allowed there, but if that is the case why don't you ask him ? My info is that it's definately more than 12. But even that would be suffiscient. Nabs, I suspect there are a lot of misconceptions you suffer from, this being one of them. Like I said, it sounds like there is a handful in India. I'm glad everything is hunky dory from your perspective.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
Thanks for the heads up Vaj. You nailed exactly how I feel about her musical evolution. I am listening to Night Ride Home on Amazon as I write this and it reminds me why I loved her. Funny that you focused on the guitar because that is my complaint about some of her later songs. Same with Bonnie Raitt. I love solo guitar. I don't play in that tuning but a lot of the old blues guys did. The strings seem too slack to me but you sure can get some spacey bends! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:25 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: . . ..Nothing lasts for long.. . . . . . . Thanks for posting this. She was the soundtrack of my youth and now she nails another stage. Great artist! So many great lines. I believe this is from Travelogue. It has a lot of the earlier pieces orchestrated and re-assessed. If like many of us you stopped listening (or even liking) Joni when she turned to jazz and Mingus, etc. then you might want to check out her later classic Night Ride Home. NRH is the album created on a journey with her last husband, Larry Klein (great session musician who helped discover Tracey Chapman) on a roadtrip back to her stomping grounds in Canada. NRH returns to Joni's spacious, open-tuning acoustic work which made her famous in the first place. But in this case, she's traveling with a new flame, back home.So the sound is updated and the songs fresh and new. And boy does she write, IMO, some of her best work ever. She even does an incredible job of co-opting Yeats in Slouching Towards Bethlehem, (for which Yates gets a shared writing credit, although Joni changes the lyrics slightly to fit to song). The title track is a great acoustic opener, in a spacious CGDFGC tuning, set to a rhythm track made of crickets chirping. If you ever hopped in a high schools friend's dad's big old gas-hog car back in the days of cheap gasoline--Ray's Dad's Cadillac will grab you. I dig the syncopated rhythm she weaves into it. It's not an album to be missed. A must for that roadtrip or a relaxing time at home.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
Hey, whaddya call a Buddhist who is full of shit? Turdquoise B! :-) This is crap.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you. As always, when someone makes an intelligent post, Nabby insults him rather than responding in kind. In fact, I can’t think of a single instance where Nabby has actually responded otherwise. He is consistently condescending. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
Four years ago, I was at 234 lbs and a complete keyboard potato. I was huffing and puffing on every stairway, and I had a host of other lack-of-vitality symptoms too. Enter the Trikke. Down 30 pounds, never get tired doing normal everyday stuff, can do a ton of things that I never knew I was missing. I shoveled an eight inch snow fall for 30 minutes the other day without pausing -- like that. Ain't no one here going to talk me out of exercising cuz of sweat. I come back from trikking and continue to sweat for 30 minutes -- my heart rate can spike up to 170 beats per minutes, but the blood pressure is normal (95 over 65)-- gotta love that. I get extra benefits from my woman all the time when she is amazed at my strength and endurance nowvery nice to be fit and healthy in the eyes of your love. I just keep saying to her, no surprise, I'm Trikkerman! Gotta tell ya, getchersef something physical to do, don't havta be no trikking, but just get out there 30 minutes a day and work up a sweat, and you will see your whole life come up a notch in energy, verve, esteem, passion, positivity upon awakening in the morning, flexibility, and on and on. That said, I think the key is flexibility, and 30 minutes of asanas per day could possibly do 75% of the getting-fit workload. The sun salutation seems purdy good fer thet. Here's the proof: I'm so confident about what exercise has gotten me, that I even write it up here knowing full well that Sh-empty is posting today. Great God in heaven, please heal Sh-empty. We want Shfully instead. Amen. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because Exercise isn't part of our tradition. That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:01 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise I did not know americans was allowed there, but if that is the case why don't you ask him ? My info is that it's definately more than 12. But even that would be suffiscient. Probably the majority of Purusha in Uttarkashi are Americans. I’ll find out the totals and post them. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But now all the chickens are coming to roost. If MMY is right his groups of people living under his direction should be the picture of good health. We are entering the area beyond opinions as we see how people age. You can't tell anything by one person, but we will get a better idea with many aging Purusha and Mother Divine. Right, a better idea (but even then, not necessarily statistically conclusive evidence one way or the other). I'm just objecting to the conclusions being drawn on tiny amounts of anecdotal evidence. snip I'll bet our views on how you and I conduct our own healthy lives are more similar than different. Oh, I'm sure. But then neither of us is in Mother Divine/Purusha. I'd certainly be dubious about a recommendation not to exercise for people living ordinary lives in the real world. I'm dubious about such a recommendation for Mother Divine/Purusha as well, but I leave more room for their different circumstances possibly having different effects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: only chickenshit people are afraid of the truth tm leaders are sex pervs
Peter wrote: DO NOT POST THE NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT YOU THINK HAVE HAD SEX WITH JOHN, BEVAN OR WHOMEVER BECAUSE THAT IS SLANDER. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LEGAL PRIVILEGE NOR THE MORAL RIGHT TO POST NAMES. THIS IS HERSEY WRITTEN AS FACT. Oh, I get it - DON'T post the names of the women who had sex, but you SHOULD post the names of the men.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
You can't tell anything by one person, but we will get a better idea with many aging Purusha and Mother Divine. I think that ship has already sailed, Curtis, judging by the premature aging we have seen among sidhas and by how many of them passed away in their 40s and 50s. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip So like a lot of stuff that comes out of MMY's mouth, this statement doesn't make any sense. It just reveals his contempt for modern science and medicine. Well, I sure am not clear as to exactly what MMY was including in the phrase our tradition, or what kind of exercise he was referring to. It might also be important to know what *else* he said in this connection, to have more context for the quoted statement. So it seems to me we don't really have enough information to draw the conclusion you've just come to. That could be the case. You began by saying, Let's look at his assertion at face value. In general, I think the critics of MMY here rely far too much on face value. They seem to lack the imagination to realize how important context can be. Sometimes it can confirm the face value, but other times it shows it in an entirely different light. While I used the term face value, remember that I lived in programs where every hour was programmed by MMY. Vigorous exercise has always been frowned on. Statements like Asanas provide enough exercise were used to guide our activity. MMY is anti weight training and aerobic training, this is a known fact of his fulltime programs. But now all the chickens are coming to roost. If MMY is right his groups of people living under his direction should be the picture of good health. We are entering the area beyond opinions as we see how people age. You can't tell anything by one person, but we will get a better idea with many aging Purusha and Mother Divine. As far as MMy goes,I think his mission is a big key to his longevity. having a purpose seems to be a really important for a long life On the other hand my dad is his age and is much more physically vigorous. But there are so many factors in health we can only pick out what makes sense and run with it. For me it includes weight training and aerobics as well as stretching and balance training. I am hoping that pursuing my music will give my life a focus till the guitar drops from my hands. I have read that many musicians live a long time and I think the activity and expression may help. I'll bet our views on how you and I conduct our own healthy lives are more similar than different. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
Edg wrote: Great God in heaven, please heal Sh-empty. We want Shfully instead. Hey, that's a good one. BTW, the whole family was in the room, and we just watched the Trikke promo video. Everyone liked it and the family's thinking about getting me one for upcoming birthday. (actually 52, not 53 like I said before). I would just have to commit to using it. But this latest discussion has me thinking how good some exercise would be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: . . ..Nothing lasts for long.. . . .. . . Thanks for posting this. She was the soundtrack of my youth and now she nails another stage. Great artist! So many great lines. Yeah, I found this particular piece to be a ripper. It's like I know totally where she's at personally inside from this song, though I wasn't ever a fan like you were. The video art was great too. There are two other songs that come to mind in the same vein as this one: Hurt by Johnny Cash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go and this one by Mary Hopkin probably long before she really knew what she was singing, Those were the days by Mary Hopkin - 1968: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ggVj2ZNEl0 CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY Lyrics - Joni Mitchell
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
Lurk, Are you in FF? I just bought another Trikke two weeks ago. The newly improved design of the T8 is golden, and the T8 is good for learning on, but you'll probably end up giving that one to someone in your family and buy a T12 once you get your carving chops. The Trikke Tech folks are tops, so no problems ordering from their Web site, but I buy my Trikkes from the Tampa Florida dealer, he's aces, biggest dealer in the world. Tell him I sent ya, it might get you a discount. Andy Clark Trikke Tampa Store 3818-A W. Bay Vista Ave. Tampa, FL 33611 (813) 319-3735 www.TrikkeTampaStore.com Andy and I are testing a new product from Trikke Tech that hasn't been announced yet...bigass secret right now...I can hardly retrain myself from blabbing about it; the thing is so much fun. Stay tuned. But get a Trikke, don't wait for something new that might be a year out yet, and the new thing will require that you know how to trikke also, so there you go. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg wrote: Great God in heaven, please heal Sh-empty. We want Shfully instead. Hey, that's a good one. BTW, the whole family was in the room, and we just watched the Trikke promo video. Everyone liked it and the family's thinking about getting me one for upcoming birthday. (actually 52, not 53 like I said before). I would just have to commit to using it. But this latest discussion has me thinking how good some exercise would be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
I'm just objecting to the conclusions being drawn on tiny amounts of anecdotal evidence. One of my favorite qualities of your posts. Good reminder. I'm dubious about such a recommendation for Mother Divine/Purusha as well, but I leave more room for their different circumstances possibly having different effects. Crude breath for crude nervous system is on of MMY's quotes against exercise. I think not betting the whole farm on his POV, which is how you seem to live, is wise. We will see if his special groups is really an exception to the value of physical activity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip But now all the chickens are coming to roost. If MMY is right his groups of people living under his direction should be the picture of good health. We are entering the area beyond opinions as we see how people age. You can't tell anything by one person, but we will get a better idea with many aging Purusha and Mother Divine. Right, a better idea (but even then, not necessarily statistically conclusive evidence one way or the other). I'm just objecting to the conclusions being drawn on tiny amounts of anecdotal evidence. snip I'll bet our views on how you and I conduct our own healthy lives are more similar than different. Oh, I'm sure. But then neither of us is in Mother Divine/Purusha. I'd certainly be dubious about a recommendation not to exercise for people living ordinary lives in the real world. I'm dubious about such a recommendation for Mother Divine/Purusha as well, but I leave more room for their different circumstances possibly having different effects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you. Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God holds others in contempt. ~~ Robert Green Ingersoll, lawyer and orator (1833-1899) When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. ~~ Robert T. Pirsig, author and philosopher (1928- )
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Fortunately they can fall back on their Purusha health care insurance, right? Right? For them the most fortunate thing is not to have to be exposed to utter fools like you. As always, when someone makes an intelligent post, Nabby insults him rather than responding in kind. In fact, I can't think of a single instance where Nabby has actually responded otherwise. He is consistently condescending. Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God holds others in contempt. ~~ Robert Green Ingersoll, lawyer and orator (1833-1899) When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. ~~ Robert T. Pirsig, author and philosopher (1928- )
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
Hurt by Johnny Cash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go Duude! This sent me right into songwriting mode. Thanks for reminding me about this gem. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: . . ..Nothing lasts for long.. . . .. . . Thanks for posting this. She was the soundtrack of my youth and now she nails another stage. Great artist! So many great lines. Yeah, I found this particular piece to be a ripper. It's like I know totally where she's at personally inside from this song, though I wasn't ever a fan like you were. The video art was great too. There are two other songs that come to mind in the same vein as this one: Hurt by Johnny Cash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go and this one by Mary Hopkin probably long before she really knew what she was singing, Those were the days by Mary Hopkin - 1968: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ggVj2ZNEl0 CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY Lyrics - Joni Mitchell
[FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
Bonnie wrote: You are wasting your time and my time. Lurk wrote: Bitch, go preach somewhere else Very impressive!
[FairfieldLife] Trikke (was Re: RIP Scott Girard)
I had never heard of the Trikke. It looks like a blast! www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4RuGb4q5c --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Four years ago, I was at 234 lbs and a complete keyboard potato. I was huffing and puffing on every stairway, and I had a host of other lack-of-vitality symptoms too. Enter the Trikke. Down 30 pounds, never get tired doing normal everyday stuff, can do a ton of things that I never knew I was missing. I shoveled an eight inch snow fall for 30 minutes the other day without pausing -- like that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:01 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise I did not know americans was allowed there, but if that is the case why don't you ask him ? My info is that it's definately more than 12. But even that would be suffiscient. Probably the majority of Purusha in Uttarkashi are Americans. I'll find out the totals and post them. As any information about the Movement coming from Rich Archer they are bound to be both accurate and truthful.
[FairfieldLife] Trikke: WAS RIP Scott Girard
Edg, How long did it take for you to learn to use it? Does it put any strain on knees? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lurk, Are you in FF? I just bought another Trikke two weeks ago. The newly improved design of the T8 is golden, and the T8 is good for learning on, but you'll probably end up giving that one to someone in your family and buy a T12 once you get your carving chops. The Trikke Tech folks are tops, so no problems ordering from their Web site, but I buy my Trikkes from the Tampa Florida dealer, he's aces, biggest dealer in the world. Tell him I sent ya, it might get you a discount. Andy Clark Trikke Tampa Store 3818-A W. Bay Vista Ave. Tampa, FL 33611 (813) 319-3735 www.TrikkeTampaStore.com Andy and I are testing a new product from Trikke Tech that hasn't been announced yet...bigass secret right now...I can hardly retrain myself from blabbing about it; the thing is so much fun. Stay tuned. But get a Trikke, don't wait for something new that might be a year out yet, and the new thing will require that you know how to trikke also, so there you go. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Edg wrote: Great God in heaven, please heal Sh-empty. We want Shfully instead. Hey, that's a good one. BTW, the whole family was in the room, and we just watched the Trikke promo video. Everyone liked it and the family's thinking about getting me one for upcoming birthday. (actually 52, not 53 like I said before). I would just have to commit to using it. But this latest discussion has me thinking how good some exercise would be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trikke: WAS RIP Scott Girard
The Trikke is a perfect Zen master teacher, but I resisted, and it took me months to get smooth, but only a day or so to get it to go. I fought against the machine -- thinking I knew better, and consequently I gripped the handlebars hard until my forearms ached and didn't stop aching for a long time. The machine knows what it can do, and it will actually push back against you if you're trying to do ANYTHING that isn't part of it's efficiency algorithm. Listening to it yields skills fast. If I change anything, like handlebar height, or stance on the footpads, the machine becomes significantly different feeling immediately because it's a wholistic thingie and if one thing changes then all else must too: meaning one's way of carving. For this reason I switch my set-up around to get even more of the outer realms of core into the mix. Funzies. I even turn the front wheel backwards and do it like that just cuz. The basic trick is learning to lean instead of using one's arms to brute force the beast back and forth. Let go let gravity. These days with so many instructional videos on youtube, most newbies are reporting good skill-sets in a week or so, and soreness is merely the first few days. Gravity does all the work, but it take a bit of muscle to get almost all of one's mass on the correct footpad at the start of the descent. This shifting of one's weight back and forth on the pads has to be perfectly timed with the arm motions. When done well, it is buttah. The neatest thing is that each and every carve gives one that feeling of catching a wave. It's a free ride all the way down the eight inch tall wave, then it's mostly coasting back up the other side from the momentum gained during the falling. A little push from your quads, a little oomph from the arms, and you're back on top ready for another free ride down. There's no end to nuancing -- honest -- you learn something more everyday about being in tune with it. At the first 20 seconds of this video, http://youtube.com/watch?v=pF6W3S3QC-w , you can see just how smooth the motion can be as carve seamlessly melds into the next carve -- undulation city! This video http://youtube.com/watch?v=nLGNNX9ZqDE gives a pretty good feeling about how one can rock out on this gizmo and get some oomph into the carves. As far a knees go, I haven't had the least problem, nor for the other joints. I tell folks it's extremely low impact on the system while it gets every major muscle group working -- like swimming actually. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg, How long did it take for you to learn to use it? Does it put any strain on knees? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Lurk, Are you in FF? I just bought another Trikke two weeks ago. The newly improved design of the T8 is golden, and the T8 is good for learning on, but you'll probably end up giving that one to someone in your family and buy a T12 once you get your carving chops. The Trikke Tech folks are tops, so no problems ordering from their Web site, but I buy my Trikkes from the Tampa Florida dealer, he's aces, biggest dealer in the world. Tell him I sent ya, it might get you a discount. Andy Clark Trikke Tampa Store 3818-A W. Bay Vista Ave. Tampa, FL 33611 (813) 319-3735 www.TrikkeTampaStore.com Andy and I are testing a new product from Trikke Tech that hasn't been announced yet...bigass secret right now...I can hardly retrain myself from blabbing about it; the thing is so much fun. Stay tuned. But get a Trikke, don't wait for something new that might be a year out yet, and the new thing will require that you know how to trikke also, so there you go. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Edg wrote: Great God in heaven, please heal Sh-empty. We want Shfully instead. Hey, that's a good one. BTW, the whole family was in the room, and we just watched the Trikke promo video. Everyone liked it and the family's thinking about getting me one for upcoming birthday. (actually 52, not 53 like I said before). I would just have to commit to using it. But this latest discussion has me thinking how good some exercise would be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. You're not in the Himalayas. Are you sold out to rajasic activity? I'm not on Purusha, in case you did not know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nabs: So you know how many Purushas are in the Himalayas do you ? Lurk: Nabs, are you going to parse handful You tell me how many. I guess probably a couple dozen. In my book, that would be a handful, out of a couple hundered. In fact I have a close connection to one of them. He would definitely pass the grade in your book. Nabs: I did not know americans was allowed there, but if that is the case why don't you ask him ? My info is that it's definately more than 12. But even that would be suffiscient. Nabs, I suspect there are a lot of misconceptions you suffer from, this being one of them. Like I said, it sounds like there is a handful in India. I'm glad everything is hunky dory from your perspective. Sure, 150 would probably be a handful in your mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
They might think it is too much like coming upon one of those multi car pile ups, you know, like in the fog that involve dozens of vehicles - and coming upon it just as it happening with all the walking wounded. Many folks already have enough drama and chaos in their lives and it's not worth sifting through all the over-emotionalism - they slow down, gawk, and move on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they're required to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on HYPERLINK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ FairfieldLife/ and figure they've stumbled upon a pretty cool, open-minded group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don't have to leave comments when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the bickering and trash talk that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate loss IMO. Don't the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, forgiveness, acceptance, etc? I don't understand how people can tolerate indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It's self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look within and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7:44 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:53 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. You're not in the Himalayas. Are you sold out to rajasic activity? I'm not on Purusha, in case you did not know. I knew that. So if Purushas not in the Himalayas tend to be rajasic, what does that make non-Purushas? Seems to me that by your way of thinking, non-Purushas would generally be more rajasic than Purushas. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the majority of Purusha in Uttarkashi are Americans. I'll find out the totals and post them. As any information about the Movement coming from Rich Archer they are bound to be both accurate and truthful. I just heard from a friend who used to be with Purusha in Uttarkashi. He said: “About a hundred. I'm guessing 60% are American.” No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] maharishi movie
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Bonnie Rosen wrote: I have recently joined this group and agree with Rick. I am surprised with every digest I received as to some of the rather negative rantings. You are wasting your time and my time. Find something posititve to focus on. Perhaps go do something of value for someone else. Go meditation, sing a song, do some seva.Uplift someone by appreciating their Divine values. Spread some Love; appreciate all you have and earn some merit. Bonnie, just out of curiosity, do you do this in your own life, all the time? Never a negative word or thought? And always the ability to see the Divine in others, even when you're really ticked at them? What's your secret? I really mean that. And if this is such a waste of your time, why bother to stay? Is your mouse stuck? I've never bought into the idea that meditation makes one more positive. In fact if it creates mental coherence people will become more discriminating and not let pass things they don't agree with. I think there are a bunch of passive meditator types who are not so discriminating in thought but spaced out or anemic and that was mistaken for increased positivity. From what I read about the wonderful people many of them sounded like they were just wallflowers and not outgoing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because Exercise isn't part of our tradition. That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha. Pray tell, Doctor Stein, are you saying that there are instances in which exercise is NOT a good thing? I was going to make a similar comment. I’m no medical expert, but I can’t imagine a cardiologist telling anyone that exercise wouldn’t benefit them, unless they were so ill that the slightest exertion might kill them. I’ve seen people in their 90’s who had gotten proper exercise all their lives and could still run, ski, etc. Maharishi, who has been sedentary, has been bound to a wheelchair for several years. If non-exercise is part of his tradition, then the tradition is deficient. When I was on TTC and the Sidhis program we had walks every day either after or before lunch and it was recommended. Maybe running or heavy exercise might not be good for someone rounding because of the shock to the system. But walking should be okay. Plus using an Indian diet for westerners is not a good idea either. MMY started out saying eat what your mother puts before you. That was a subtle way of saying what your ancestors ate is probably the best diet for you or modified if you moved to a new location. Of course if your ancestors ate a bad diet and keeled over in their 40's it might not be such a good idea too and needs some advice or modification. Your body changes and adapts (acclimatizes) to your environment. My guru returned early from his last India trip and when I asked why he said too hot! So in about 10 years time he had become so acclimatized to the California climate that India was now too hot. I also have another Indian restaurateur friend who told me he gets sick now when he visits India. I've also wondered if so many who have had health problems and died early in the movement were even following advice from even MAPI practitioners? I've known people when recommended to at least eat eggs for breakfast didn't want to and stuck to an yogic diet of Indian food stuff not necessarily that good for westerners. We're all individuals and need to find what works for you and keep in mind the body will change too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Atonement
Bhairitu wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: I don't know why, but from the moment I heard about this film I had expectations of it running through my head. Somehow, and for some unknown reason, I expected it to be one of those upper-class Brit morality plays full of upper-class twit-Brits and repressed sexuality and emotion. People talked about Keira Knightly as if she were really good in it, and I guess I took that with a grain of salt, too, because I've never been all that impressed by her. At any rate, I really didn't go out of my way to see it. My mistake. It's pretty much a masterful film made from what must be an even more masterful novel. It's not just Keira Knightly who is good in it, but *every- one* in the production, especially James MacAvoy and the three generations of actresses playing Briony Tallis, especially the last. Several people here have suggested their favorite films of the year so far. I've seen all of them, and thought that each of the FFL reviewers was onto some- thing with their nominations. But that was before I saw Atonement. This is my fave so far. Really good film. The kind you'll want to stay in your seat for after the credits roll and watch it a second time. It's that good. Keira Knightly got an Oscar nod for this film, and deserves it. But who should have gotten another one, for only seven minutes of screen time, is Vanessa Redgrave. I haven't seen it as it sounded like a chick flick by its slugline but I may make it out and see it this week as it is still at the local arthouse. Usually I reserve such films for rentals. Even better this week it is now booked at the DLP theater up the hill. Maybe I'll take in Juno which is also there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Atonement
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhairitu wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: I don't know why, but from the moment I heard about this film I had expectations of it running through my head. Somehow, and for some unknown reason, I expected it to be one of those upper-class Brit morality plays full of upper-class twit-Brits and repressed sexuality and emotion. People talked about Keira Knightly as if she were really good in it, and I guess I took that with a grain of salt, too, because I've never been all that impressed by her. At any rate, I really didn't go out of my way to see it. My mistake. It's pretty much a masterful film made from what must be an even more masterful novel. It's not just Keira Knightly who is good in it, but *every- one* in the production, especially James MacAvoy and the three generations of actresses playing Briony Tallis, especially the last. Several people here have suggested their favorite films of the year so far. I've seen all of them, and thought that each of the FFL reviewers was onto some- thing with their nominations. But that was before I saw Atonement. This is my fave so far. Really good film. The kind you'll want to stay in your seat for after the credits roll and watch it a second time. It's that good. Keira Knightly got an Oscar nod for this film, and deserves it. But who should have gotten another one, for only seven minutes of screen time, is Vanessa Redgrave. I haven't seen it as it sounded like a chick flick by its slugline but I may make it out and see it this week as it is still at the local arthouse. Usually I reserve such films for rentals. Even better this week it is now booked at the DLP theater up the hill. Maybe I'll take in Juno which is also there. I saw Juno three times the first week it was out here. I'm a 53-year-old male and when I grow up I want to be just like Juno!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:34 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I don't play in that tuning but a lot of the old blues guys did. The strings seem too slack to me but you sure can get some spacey bends! She rather cleverly uses it to hammer-on entire chords, some using the right hand as a second hand of the fingerboard. I have to admit, I liked the album so much, I actually bought the sheet music and learned the songs on it. And it's fun to break out of EADBGE every now and then. Turbulent Indigo (which followed NRH) also carries over some of same quieter acoustic qualities. Night Ride Home (Chords) Transcribed by Sue McNamara Tuning: CGDEGC Joni Tuning: C77235 INTRO: C G E ---12--12---88-- D --12---12---9-9- G --129--- C ---09--- C G E -55---5-5--- D --5555-- G --5--5-- C ---5--5- C ---77---7--- G ---77---7--- E 7--78---7--1212- D -7-77---7--12-12 G --779---7---12-- C ---7---77---70-- Verse: || 12 || Once in a while |||*|| 8 ***||| In a big blue moon || 5 || There comes a night like this ** 7*|*|** 7 || |||*|| || |* Like some surrealist invented || 12 || this 4th of July Night Ride Home Verse chords repeat: Hula girls and caterpillar tractors in the sand The ukulele man The fireworks This 4th of July Night Ride Home Bridge: || 5 || I love the man beside me || 7|| 12 || || We love the open road || 5 || No phones till Friday ** 7 || Far from the overkill *|*|** 7 |||*|| |* Far from the overload Verse chords repeat: Back at the bar The band tears down But out here in the headlight beams The silver powerlines Gleam On this 4th of July Night Ride Home Verse chords repeat: Round the curve And a big dark horse Red taillights on his hide Is keeping right alongside Rev for stride This 4th of July Night Ride Home Bridge chords repeat: I love the man beside me We love the open road No phones till Friday Far from the undertow Far from the overload Verse chords repeat: Once in awhile In a big blue moon There comes a night like this Like some surrealist Invented this 4th of July Night Ride Home © 1991 Crazy Crow Music, all rights reserved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was on TTC and the Sidhis program we had walks every day either after or before lunch and it was recommended. On my last TM course, our walk and talks were mandated. We had to leave the hotel and walk in total silence along the lovely mountainside trails of St. Moritz. It was the only time on my six-month TM Siddhi course that I enjoyed. We got to get the fuck OUT of the hotel, and see nature, and breathe real air, and just RELAX for an hour, free of the TM automatons trying to run every second of our lives. But there was one asshole on that course -- Shemp can verify this -- who did his best to fuck even *that* hour up, too. He was one of those classic I know the way to do everything spiritual perfectly and you don't type, and if he caught a few of us on our 'walk and talks' actually talking, he'd come running over and try to lay some guilt trip on us. I still remember the one that pushed me -- and, as it turns out, almost him -- over the edge. I was having some fun talking with my buddy about some- thing more interesting than cows and green-flowing- fucking-soma and we laughed out loud and he came running over and actually *yelled* at us and screamed, YOU! YOU are the reason Maharishi hasn't visited our course! You shame his teachings by laughing like this when you should be in silence! Something in me just snapped, but very quietly. I walked over to the red-faced, near-apoplectic ass- hole and took him by the perfectly-pressed collar of his perfectly-pressed shirt (mussing his perfect tie), and dragged him over to the edge of the trail that we were walking along and leaned him out over the edge. He looked down...WAY down, several hundred meters, to where he might easily wind up if he didn't pay attention. He paid attention. I said, quietly, I have taken just about all of your bullshit I can. Go away and bother me no more. Look down. If you EVER speak to me again on this course, that is where I will throw you. Do you understand? He understood. He never spoke to me again, on that course or any other. My exercise program remained undisturbed for the rest of the course, and both my buddy and I continued to laugh our ways through each one of them. Occasionally we'd see the asshole glaring at us, angry that our laughter was keeping him from his teacher and his enlightenment and whatever *else* he thought our enjoyment of life was keeping him from, but he never dared to say anything to either of us again. And that's what exercise time was like on my last course. Boy, I don't miss the TM movement...
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:00 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard He understood. He never spoke to me again, on that course or any other. My exercise program remained undisturbed for the rest of the course, and both my buddy and I continued to laugh our ways through each one of them. Occasionally we'd see the asshole glaring at us, angry that our laughter was keeping him from his teacher and his enlightenment and whatever *else* he thought our enjoyment of life was keeping him from, but he never dared to say anything to either of us again. Now he’s probably a junkie or a gigolo. Strainers eventually snap. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB He understood. He never spoke to me again, on that course or any other. My exercise program remained undisturbed for the rest of the course, and both my buddy and I continued to laugh our ways through each one of them. Occasionally we'd see the asshole glaring at us, angry that our laughter was keeping him from his teacher and his enlightenment and whatever *else* he thought our enjoyment of life was keeping him from, but he never dared to say anything to either of us again. Now he's probably a junkie or a gigolo. Strainers eventually snap. I'd be surprised if he weren't still a part of the TM movement, somewhere. He wouldn't have had any other option in life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB He understood. He never spoke to me again, on that course or any other. My exercise program remained undisturbed for the rest of the course, and both my buddy and I continued to laugh our ways through each one of them. Occasionally we'd see the asshole glaring at us, angry that our laughter was keeping him from his teacher and his enlightenment and whatever *else* he thought our enjoyment of life was keeping him from, but he never dared to say anything to either of us again. Now he's probably a junkie or a gigolo. Strainers eventually snap. I'd be surprised if he weren't still a part of the TM movement, somewhere. He wouldn't have had any other option in life.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard HYPERLINK http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/twocents/2006/12/20/Yankaus_Micha el.jpg Michael Yankaus didn’t snap. He mellowed. He’s still in the movement, but is very easy-going and open-minded. A genuinely nice guy. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
One thing that I got from the TMO that I still do is asanas--surya namaskar and the advanced set of asanas I was taught at a course. I spend more time doing the yoga than I spend meditating. I also lift weights moderately--for tone rather than for getting bulky, and bicycle. I feel pretty good physically.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
She rather cleverly uses it to hammer-on entire chords, some using the right hand as a second hand of the fingerboard. I have to admit, I liked the album so much, I actually bought the sheet music and learned the songs on it. And it's fun to break out of EADBGE every now and then. What an excellent project Vaj. You are a guitarist's guitarist! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:34 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I don't play in that tuning but a lot of the old blues guys did. The strings seem too slack to me but you sure can get some spacey bends! She rather cleverly uses it to hammer-on entire chords, some using the right hand as a second hand of the fingerboard. I have to admit, I liked the album so much, I actually bought the sheet music and learned the songs on it. And it's fun to break out of EADBGE every now and then. Turbulent Indigo (which followed NRH) also carries over some of same quieter acoustic qualities. Night Ride Home (Chords) Transcribed by Sue McNamara Tuning: CGDEGC Joni Tuning: C77235 INTRO: C G E ---12--12---88-- D --12---12---9-9- G --129--- C ---09--- C G E -55---5-5--- D --5555-- G --5--5-- C ---5--5- C ---77---7--- G ---77---7--- E 7--78---7--1212- D -7-77---7--12-12 G --779---7---12-- C ---7---77---70-- Verse: || 12 || Once in a while |||*|| 8 ***||| In a big blue moon || 5 || There comes a night like this ** 7*|*|** 7 || |||*|| || |* Like some surrealist invented || 12 || this 4th of July Night Ride Home Verse chords repeat: Hula girls and caterpillar tractors in the sand The ukulele man The fireworks This 4th of July Night Ride Home Bridge: || 5 || I love the man beside me || 7|| 12 || || We love the open road || 5 || No phones till Friday ** 7 || Far from the overkill *|*|** 7 |||*|| |* Far from the overload Verse chords repeat: Back at the bar The band tears down But out here in the headlight beams The silver powerlines Gleam On this 4th of July Night Ride Home Verse chords repeat: Round the curve And a big dark horse Red taillights on his hide Is keeping right alongside Rev for stride This 4th of July Night Ride Home Bridge chords repeat: I love the man beside me We love the open road No phones till Friday Far from the undertow Far from the overload Verse chords repeat: Once in awhile In a big blue moon There comes a night like this Like some surrealist Invented this 4th of July Night Ride Home © 1991 Crazy Crow Music, all rights reserved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
Great, Thanks. I know you're in the midwest like I am. You've been waiting for a day like this. 50 degrees here today. I want to fill you in with some personal details in the next week or so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lurk, Are you in FF? I just bought another Trikke two weeks ago. The newly improved design of the T8 is golden, and the T8 is good for learning on, but you'll probably end up giving that one to someone in your family and buy a T12 once you get your carving chops. The Trikke Tech folks are tops, so no problems ordering from their Web site, but I buy my Trikkes from the Tampa Florida dealer, he's aces, biggest dealer in the world. Tell him I sent ya, it might get you a discount. Andy Clark Trikke Tampa Store 3818-A W. Bay Vista Ave. Tampa, FL 33611 (813) 319-3735 www.TrikkeTampaStore.com Andy and I are testing a new product from Trikke Tech that hasn't been announced yet...bigass secret right now...I can hardly retrain myself from blabbing about it; the thing is so much fun. Stay tuned. But get a Trikke, don't wait for something new that might be a year out yet, and the new thing will require that you know how to trikke also, so there you go. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Edg wrote: Great God in heaven, please heal Sh-empty. We want Shfully instead. Hey, that's a good one. BTW, the whole family was in the room, and we just watched the Trikke promo video. Everyone liked it and the family's thinking about getting me one for upcoming birthday. (actually 52, not 53 like I said before). I would just have to commit to using it. But this latest discussion has me thinking how good some exercise would be.
[FairfieldLife] Re:What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonnie wrote: You are wasting your time and my time. Lurk wrote: Bitch, go preach somewhere else Very impressive! If one doesn't like the quality of posts, I would suggest several different courses of action. 1) Refrain from posting 2) Do what Shaddai (sp?) did a few days ago. Mention some disatisfaction with the quality of posts, declare that he is taking a week off. Very classy IMO. A simple boycott, with a simple note of explanation. 3) Take it upon yourself to post comments that reflect the standards you feel should be adhered to. By maintaining this standard, you will gain automatic respect, and your currency will be more valuable. The one thing I DON'T recommend doing is coming in and preaching. Aren't you tired of people preaching to you. Aren't you tired of politicians claiming that God is on our side. I know I am, and when someone starts preaching to me, I guess I react negatively. YMMV
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
nablusoss1008 ... wrote: Sure, 150 would probably be a handful in your mind. Nabby, I recomment animal protein in your diet. I think it would strenghten your mind, and improve your debating skills.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Exercise may not be a critical factor in preventing heart disease, which is probably due to diet factors: http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/140/12/1007 Conclusions: Aerobic physical exercise did not attenuate progression of atherosclerosis, except in a subgroup of men not taking statins. This study pertains to heart disease that already has evidenced itself, exercise by itself is unlikely to reduce plaque. Sometimes a very restrictive diet can reduce plaque. For westerners, lifestyle factors are a large part of heart disease, such as lack of exercise, bad diet and other bad habits like smoking. Plus genes. And bad luck. For example, instead of a plumbing problem you might have an electrical problem that has nothing to do with how well you have taken care of yourself. Either can kill you. Recommendations to see your doctor before starting an exercise program are partly CYA and partly because you might have a time bomb in your chest. Nevertheless, in general exercise is good good good, even for people who have cardiac issues if those issues are addressed as part of a treatment program. With all of these caveats, I tend to disagree with MMY's position that you shouldn't exercise yourself into a sweat. But if you come from a hot climate, you do have to keep cognizant of the heat when exercising and people often over do it in the heat. Heart rate monitors are good to have for those who exercise in the heat. And heck, if people would just walk 10,000 steps a day that would work just fine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
TurquoiseB wrote: I said, quietly, I have taken just about all of your bullshit I can. Go away and bother me no more. Look down. If you EVER speak to me again on this course, that is where I will throw you. Do you understand? Well, I guess that explains why you were kicked out of the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They might think it is too much like coming upon one of those multi car pile ups, you know, like in the fog that involve dozens of vehicles - and coming upon it just as it happening with all the walking wounded. Many folks already have enough drama and chaos in their lives and it's not worth sifting through all the over-emotionalism - they slow down, gawk, and move on. I'm thinking Larry that unless you come in with the background of time in the TMO, you're gonna feel somewhat out of the loop, and hence turned off, or bored. There's plenty of nuanced debate, inside jokes etc. that take place. It helps to have that background to derive full benefit/appreciation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Cafe by Joni Mitchell
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:34 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I don't play in that tuning but a lot of the old blues guys did. The strings seem too slack to me but you sure can get some spacey bends! She rather cleverly uses it to hammer-on entire chords, some using the right hand as a second hand of the fingerboard. I have to admit, I liked the album so much, I actually bought the sheet music and learned the songs on it. And it's fun to break out of EADBGE Say wot?? ... Naah, just kidding! ;)
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:53 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise There are many good Purushas not sold out to rajasic activity, mostly they are in the Himalayas. You're not in the Himalayas. Are you sold out to rajasic activity? I'm not on Purusha, in case you did not know. I knew that. So if Purushas not in the Himalayas tend to be rajasic, what does that make non-Purushas? Seems to me that by your way of thinking, non-Purushas would generally be more rajasic than Purushas. Not necessarily, but usually. Without a certain amount of rajas, how else would the outer world go round.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Probably the majority of Purusha in Uttarkashi are Americans. I'll find out the totals and post them. As any information about the Movement coming from Rich Archer they are bound to be both accurate and truthful. I just heard from a friend who used to be with Purusha in Uttarkashi. He said: About a hundred. I'm guessing 60% are American. As all info coming from Rich Archer has to be seriously doubted, this has as well. But 60 americans in the mountains can be better for the Movement than 60 of them moving about.