[FairfieldLife] What homophobes like BillyG are *really* afraid of

[turquoiseb]

That they'll have to compete with gay women to get any sex at all.  :-)

  [http://i.imgur.com/ThrJP.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arjuna-Master (symbolic of) the third Chakra, Self discipline!

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> Only when we unfold the potentials of the 5 lower chakras (synonymous with 
> the 5 Pandus in the Bhagavad Gita) can we truly over-come the shortcomings of 
> the Ego (I.E. Pride, Lust, Anger and Greed).
> 
> This is why MMY called it the Spiritual *Regeneration* Movement initially. It 
> is the unfoldment (regeneration) of these 'powers' locked in the chakras that 
> makes enlightenment possible.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9WndBBdq4M
> 
> 
> Maharishi lecture and the significance of the chakras:  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0&feature=g-all-u&context=G2515455FEAA
>

I guess that's why Patañjali in effect says that brahmacarya is
essential for/to(?) samaadhi:

shraddhaa-*viirya*-smRti-samaadhi-prajñaa-puurvaka itareSaam. (I 20)

brahmacarya-pratiSThaayaaM *viirya*-laabhaH. (II 38)

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Last month Mormons baptized the deceased parents of Nazi-hunter Simon 
> > > Wiesenthal. Now they're sorry.
> > > http://www.newser.com/story/139725/mormons-baptised-parents-of-nazi-hunter-wiesenthal.html
> > > 
> > > As you click on the "Choose-a-Mormon" button, contemplate a image of 12 
> > > oxen pissing in the Salt Lake baptismal font.
> > > http://www.utlm.org/images/twelveoxen_color.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > God did not create 'gay', (nor did nature), actually there is no such thing 
> > as 'gay'. I've hear homosexuals in the media use the excuse that they were 
> > just, "created that way", they weren't created that way, they made 
> > themselves that way through the many incarnations on earth through the use 
> > of free will, that's why they're 'gay'!!! Please don't blame nature or God 
> > for this useless behavior.
> > 
> > Men and Men, and Woman and Woman can love each other, they can Hugh and 
> > even kiss, but why do they have to have to have sexual relations?
> >
> 
> Being gay is not a choice, moron.
> http://youtu.be/Q0lZBL2H4nI
>

Well, hhit might well be from the reincarnation POV?? :0

[FairfieldLife] One of the best jazz drum solos ever??

[cardemaister]

If you are a fan of "non-musical" drumming,
this might well be one of the best solos you'll
ever see. Or, then again, not...

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/charlyantolinicaravan.html

That guy seems like totally ambidextrous!

The best parts are near the end!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[Emily Reyn]

Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass and etc,..) 
here in Bellevue for the last two days.  You would be perfect for this venue.  
Some serious greats are here.  I mean seriously spiritual greats.   The jams 
are taking over the entire Hyatt.  Look it up.  I'll get back to you..the music 
here is incredible.  Bluegrass is the redifined bluesthe positive spin.    



 From: curtisdeltablues 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
 

  
Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read any of my drivel 
here.  I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them. 

This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great comedic 
writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/2012/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html

This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been consistently cranking out 
quality material for decades. He is just way smarter than I am.

But a man can dream!  Thanks for your kind words.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.  I think you 
> could produce a rockin' commentary column - let's see - what could you call 
> it?  
> 
> This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is often very, 
> very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the Seattle Times and even 
> looks a little like you - his column is called "The Wrap."  Ha.  He's got 
> nothing on your food metaphors though.
> 
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: curtisdeltablues 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > 
> > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > 
> > 
> > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously.  This is euphoric.  
> 
> Hi Emily,
> 
> Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind words.  I have a 
> google alert set to "narcissism" so I get and email when my stage name is 
> mentioned even when I am off FFL.  Do you use these alerts on subjects you 
> are interested in?  It is free under google news and is one of the coolest 
> services on the Web.  I have a bunch of them set for all my interests.
> 
> The idea that you enjoyed my music,and your belief that more should hear it, 
> will serve as the wind beneath my wings today as I serve in my role as one 
> man band, one man marketing department, one man roadie and one man groupie. 
> 
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Can you beat a chimp?

[cardemaister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJAH4ZJBiN8

[FairfieldLife] Wilders and Dave Alvin....yes Dave Alvin...

[Emily Reyn]

Seriously, if you ever get a chance to hear these guys live, go for it:

Dave Alvin - Harlon County Line

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSU9vIzFCzk


The Wilders -  this doesn't even do them justice.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzTUINX-OWI&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Dierks Bentley - down in the mine

[Emily Reyn]

The culture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W9h8GlhD08

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi speak of Love

[nablusoss1008]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmmkZJS3bw&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arjuna-Master (symbolic of) the third Chakra, Self discipline!

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> >
> > Only when we unfold the potentials of the 5 lower chakras (synonymous with 
> > the 5 Pandus in the Bhagavad Gita) can we truly over-come the shortcomings 
> > of the Ego (I.E. Pride, Lust, Anger and Greed).
> > 
> > This is why MMY called it the Spiritual *Regeneration* Movement initially. 
> > It is the unfoldment (regeneration) of these 'powers' locked in the chakras 
> > that makes enlightenment possible.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9WndBBdq4M
> > 
> > 
> > Maharishi lecture and the significance of the chakras:  
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0&feature=g-all-u&context=G2515455FEAA
> >
> 
> I guess that's why Patañjali in effect says that brahmacarya is
> essential for/to(?) samaadhi:
> 
> shraddhaa-*viirya*-smRti-samaadhi-prajñaa-puurvaka itareSaam. (I 20)
> 
> brahmacarya-pratiSThaayaaM *viirya*-laabhaH. (II 38)

At least some proficiency must be gained, yes, I believe so. Samadhi is the 
means AND the end.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snow around my house

[merudanda]

404 - File or directory not found.   The resource you are looking for
might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily
unavailable.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0  wrote:
>
> Hey Raunchy.
> It's true that nor everyone can appreciate Cohen's voice (I happen to
> like it), but there's no question his songwriting is amazing.
>
> CBC in Canada just launched a new online music sercice at music.cbc.ca
>    with 40 streaming channels one of which is
> "Cohen Covered"--all Leonard all the time (look over at the menu on
the
> right under "Genre Streams"). As the title says, it consists of Cohen
> covers by a variety of artists. And if you want the original, there's
a
> Leonard Cohen artist page with pretty much everything he's recorded
> available for streaming. Pretty cool.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" raunchydog@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for very sweet poems, Meruda. Leonard Cohen can't
> > > > sing worth a hoot but I can sure feel him. His Anthem lyrics
> > > > are beautiful healing words for a troubled world.  Loved the
> > > > bouzouki. It reminded me of belly dancers and sticky fingers,
> > > > eating baklava and hanging out in Greek Town, Detroit in the
> > > > 60's college days.
> > > >
> > > > "Suzanne" by Judy Collins is one of my favorites.
> > > > http://youtu.be/NkamRumVXn4
> > >
> > > Nice post, Raunchy. I, too, first heard of Leonard Cohen
> > > through the auspices of Judy Collins. I heard this song
> > > and mouthed a speechless "Holy fucking shit" in my mind,
> > > and set upon trying to find who this mysterious "Leonard
> > > Cohen" was who was cited as the writer of the song. I
> > > searched. I found out. I had done the same thing earlier,
> > > because Judy Collins was one of the first voices I'd
> > > heard cover the songs of Joni Mitchell. That discovery
> > > on Judy's part speaks for itself.
> > >
> > > > And of course, there was nothing quite as spectacular as
> > > > K.D. Lang singing Hallelujah at the Winter Olympics 2010.
> > > > http://youtu.be/D-bj4TccyKk
> > >
> > > I completely understand the aversion many people have
> > > to Leonard, his voice, and his overall vibe. Really.
> > > But every so often it's good in my opinion to "go back
> > > to the original" to see what the original vision might
> > > have been.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q&ob=av2e
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Leonard feels his music like no one else, very moving, thanks Barry.
> Judy Collins must have been cruising the Canucks. Joni Mitchell
> recorded, "Miles of Aisles" at Pine Knob, Clarkston, Michigan, a
> beautiful outdoor venue. The covered pavilion was at the base of a
> gently sloping hill, a natural amphitheater with lots of room to claim
a
> little space with a picnic blanket.
> > http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/detail.cfm?id=1392
> >
> > I figured out how to post a photo from Facebook to FFLife in
Rich-Text
> Editor, but I out smarted myself. I could have gotten much better
> resolution by simply posting a link. Here's a clearer snapshot:
> >
>
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426914_2383414323710_1801315691\
\
> _1469360_1723135011_n.jpg
> >
> > I didn't know this cool wiki:
> > "Joni's left hand had been weakened by polio, and some fingerings
were
> difficult or impossible for her to execute [on the guitar]. As she
added
> new folk songs to her repertoire, she began to devise dozens of
> alternate tunings that allowed her to play each song. Later this
> improvised approach would be "a tool to break free of standard
> approaches to harmony and structure" in her own songwriting."
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
 
> Being gay is not a choice, moron.
> http://youtu.be/Q0lZBL2H4nI

"The moon is not bothered by the baying of wolves", the truth will always be 
just that, the truth. No matter how Man may try to twist it or change it, it 
remains. 

Man may even try to change the laws, but God's laws will always win out in the 
end, for the truth is revealed to each of us in our own conscience and 
intuition and that you can't escape.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> >
> > Coward! Surely you have heard that if you don't learn the
> > lessons of the past you are doomed to repeat them, well
> > surely you've heard of *Sodom and Gomorrah* right?
> 
> You mean, that they were destroyed because their residents
> were arrogant and overfed and led comfortable lives but
> didn't help the poor (Ezek. 6:49)?

In Christian and Islamic traditions, Sodom and Gomorrah have become synonymous 
with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of God's 
wrath.[2][Jude 1:7] Sodom and Gomorrah have also been used as metaphors for 
vice and homosexuality viewed as a deviation. The story has therefore given 
rise to words in several languages, including the English word sodomy, used in 
so-called sodomy laws to describe a sexual "crime against nature" consisting of 
anal sex, either homosexual or heterosexual.[3]

[FairfieldLife] Re: MIU Reunion May 3-6, 2012

[jpgillam]

This just in from reunion organizer Prentiss Adams:

"Looking forward to seeing all who can make it in May. 
Just bought my ticket last week. If you have friends 
that want to be kept in the loop about our May Event 
but they don't want to join Facebook, than can email 
us using this email address: 

miureun...@gmail.com 

It appears many would like to join us who were in class 
from 1973 & 1974. Wonderful idea but a logistic 
nightmare if we don have accurate counts. So have 
non-facebook friends email and give us a head count 
of who may show. See you in May...In fact all who are 
coming should use above email saying how many will 
be coming..it will be easier to save email. I apologize 
to those who have already commented here...but one 
more time please :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
>
> Looks like some alums are organizing a 
> reunion in Fairfield for MIU alumni, faculty, 
> staff and volunteers who were on campus 
> between 1977-1982.
> 
>  - Thursday, May 3, 2012, at 10:00 a.m. 
>  until Sunday, May 6, 2012, at 6:00 p.m.
> 
>  - Fairfield, Iowa, USA
> 
>  - All are welcome, even if no longer meditating. 
> 
> One of the organizers, Prentiss Adams, says 
> at Facebook, "We are planning a Talent Show, 
> just like the old Forest Academy days. So be 
> sure to watch for a sign up sheet, to share 
> your talents, be it musical, comedic, dance, 
> visual... you name it! Please join us!"
> 
> Posted times are subject to change, he says.
> 
> They have a Facebook group called "MIU 
> Reunion" if you want to keep up with 
> announcements there. And the MUM 
> Alumni Office is helping get the word out.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wilders and Dave Alvin....yes Dave Alvin...

[Vaj]

On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Emily Reyn wrote:

> Seriously, if you ever get a chance to hear these guys live, go for it:
> 
> Dave Alvin - Harlon County Line
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSU9vIzFCzk


I've seen Dave Alvin a number of times live, either on his own or with his band.

He's one of America's best unknown songwriters. And not to be missed live.

Ever heard "Nine Volt Heart" or "Everett Ruess"?

[FairfieldLife] #5# Think About It... Are You Walking In The Light?

[Paulo Barbosa]

Think About It... Are You Walking In The Light?

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another, and the blood of  Jesus  Christ
his Son cleanseth us from all sin" (1 John 1:7).

If we want to have a victorious life,  and  peace  with  our
neighbourandgoodrelationshipwithGod,
 we need to walk in the light of Christ, glorifying  Him  in
all our actituds. Think about it...

Paulo Barbosa

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:

> Like duh...could you elaborate?, I think the
> Rauch has blown his wad, but there may be other good rebuttals..
>
Maybe if you asked without such an agenda behind it, you could have
gotten a response.  I would have liked to hear what Raunchy had to say.

Let me take a shot at it.  We know that everyone one of us has a sex
drive, that needs to be satisfied.  And if your attraction is towards
the same sex, then I guess that is how you are going to go about
satisfying it.

I gather that your objection to this is that one is proscribed from
doing so by the Bible.  But maybe one is not so much the religious type.
Or perhaps more likely, ones sex drive trumps a religous proscription. 
So, you are faced with trading one dysfunction for another.

Your solution, I gather, is some sort of therapy to correct the "mixup",
with a religious dicatate as a backdrop.  From what I hear, that doesn't
seem to work in most cases.

I will say that the whole process seems to work better, or at least more
easily, (see naturally) between a man and women, but work arounds are
pretty easy.

I remember it was somewhat a mild shock when a prominient interior
decorator was giving us a tour of his condominium, and showed us the
elaborate bedroom he shared with Vince, his partner.  It just sort of
took me aback,  not in judgemental way, but more in a rather humurous
way.  I mean, this was one well furnished and delicately appointed
bedroom.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snow around my house

[raunchydog]

I guess my IP address recognizes the FB picture so I can see it. I was trying 
to avoid Google Picasa. Oh well, here's the album, with all the pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowAroundMyHouse?authuser=0&feat=directlink

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> 404 - File or directory not found.   The resource you are looking for
> might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily
> unavailable.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Raunchy.
> > It's true that nor everyone can appreciate Cohen's voice (I happen to
> > like it), but there's no question his songwriting is amazing.
> >
> > CBC in Canada just launched a new online music sercice at music.cbc.ca
> >    with 40 streaming channels one of which is
> > "Cohen Covered"--all Leonard all the time (look over at the menu on
> the
> > right under "Genre Streams"). As the title says, it consists of Cohen
> > covers by a variety of artists. And if you want the original, there's
> a
> > Leonard Cohen artist page with pretty much everything he's recorded
> > available for streaming. Pretty cool.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" raunchydog@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for very sweet poems, Meruda. Leonard Cohen can't
> > > > > sing worth a hoot but I can sure feel him. His Anthem lyrics
> > > > > are beautiful healing words for a troubled world.  Loved the
> > > > > bouzouki. It reminded me of belly dancers and sticky fingers,
> > > > > eating baklava and hanging out in Greek Town, Detroit in the
> > > > > 60's college days.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Suzanne" by Judy Collins is one of my favorites.
> > > > > http://youtu.be/NkamRumVXn4
> > > >
> > > > Nice post, Raunchy. I, too, first heard of Leonard Cohen
> > > > through the auspices of Judy Collins. I heard this song
> > > > and mouthed a speechless "Holy fucking shit" in my mind,
> > > > and set upon trying to find who this mysterious "Leonard
> > > > Cohen" was who was cited as the writer of the song. I
> > > > searched. I found out. I had done the same thing earlier,
> > > > because Judy Collins was one of the first voices I'd
> > > > heard cover the songs of Joni Mitchell. That discovery
> > > > on Judy's part speaks for itself.
> > > >
> > > > > And of course, there was nothing quite as spectacular as
> > > > > K.D. Lang singing Hallelujah at the Winter Olympics 2010.
> > > > > http://youtu.be/D-bj4TccyKk
> > > >
> > > > I completely understand the aversion many people have
> > > > to Leonard, his voice, and his overall vibe. Really.
> > > > But every so often it's good in my opinion to "go back
> > > > to the original" to see what the original vision might
> > > > have been.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q&ob=av2e
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Leonard feels his music like no one else, very moving, thanks Barry.
> > Judy Collins must have been cruising the Canucks. Joni Mitchell
> > recorded, "Miles of Aisles" at Pine Knob, Clarkston, Michigan, a
> > beautiful outdoor venue. The covered pavilion was at the base of a
> > gently sloping hill, a natural amphitheater with lots of room to claim
> a
> > little space with a picnic blanket.
> > > http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/detail.cfm?id=1392
> > >
> > > I figured out how to post a photo from Facebook to FFLife in
> Rich-Text
> > Editor, but I out smarted myself. I could have gotten much better
> > resolution by simply posting a link. Here's a clearer snapshot:
> > >
> >
> http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426914_2383414323710_1801315691\
> \
> > _1469360_1723135011_n.jpg
> > >
> > > I didn't know this cool wiki:
> > > "Joni's left hand had been weakened by polio, and some fingerings
> were
> > difficult or impossible for her to execute [on the guitar]. As she
> added
> > new folk songs to her repertoire, she began to devise dozens of
> > alternate tunings that allowed her to play each song. Later this
> > improvised approach would be "a tool to break free of standard
> > approaches to harmony and structure" in her own songwriting."
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> Truly, truly, you're an idiot! You don't have the faintest 
> idea of what you're talking about, but, if it makes you *feel 
> good*, well, then, at least in your own mind, you're...tolerant, 
> good, loving, accepting, but in reality, you're an idiot, sorry 
> Charlie. You should read scripture more often, in stead of 
> looking in the mirror.

I've read scriptures. Many of them talk about what happens
after death. One of them, the Bardo Thodol (often mistitled
in the West as "The Tibetan Book of the Dead") describes 
one of the stages of the rebirth process (the "sidpa bardo" 
or "bardo of rebirth") as consisting primarily of karmically 
impelled hallucinations, which are experienced as fully real. 

In this state you will encounter manifestations of the things
you focused on most during your life. If you spent most of 
your life focusing on your greatest fears and aversions, *that*
is what is going to happen to you in the bardo. Everything you 
have feared most *will* happen.

So Billy, I'm thinkin' that for you this state is not going 
to be a pleasant one. Based on what you've been obsessing on
lately, you'll likely find yourself in a realm in which not 
only does  sex still exist, but the beings you see 
around you will all be men, and they'll be eyeing *your* bum 
for the sex. How long you spend in this realm -- having big, 
hairy guys exploring your posterior plumbing -- depends on how 
much time you spent during your life being averse to and/or 
disgusted by those thoughts and those images.

So I'm thinkin' that you will spend a great deal of time 
being a "bottom" (in every sense of the word) for these 
horny ghosts' amusement. Something to look forward to. :-)

According to one translation of the Bardo Thodol, there IS
K-Y jelly in this astral realm. However, according to another
translation that is generally considered more authoritative,
the K-Y is all laced with beach sand. Ouch. 

Those of us who spent our lives thinking about (and doing) 
more pleasant things will have a more pleasant journey 
through the bardo, because the things *we* focused on most 
will also manifest. So what I'm suggesting is that, for the
rest of this incarnation and in preparation for your journey
to the next, you might want to consider focusing a little 
less on anal sex. Just sayin'...  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Coward! Surely you have heard that if you don't learn the
> > > lessons of the past you are doomed to repeat them, well
> > > surely you've heard of *Sodom and Gomorrah* right?
> > 
> > You mean, that they were destroyed because their residents
> > were arrogant and overfed and led comfortable lives but
> > didn't help the poor (Ezek. 6:49)?
> 
> In Christian and Islamic traditions, Sodom and Gomorrah have
> become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a 
> proverbial manifestation of God's wrath.[2][Jude 1:7] Sodom
> and Gomorrah have also been used as metaphors for vice and 
> homosexuality viewed as a deviation. The story has therefore
> given rise to words in several languages, including the
> English word sodomy, used in so-called sodomy laws to describe
> a sexual "crime against nature" consisting of anal sex, either 
> homosexual or heterosexual.[3]

You need to read the rest of this Wikipedia page, BillyG:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

(You also need to learn to cite your sources, BTW.)

Not incidentally, Jesus appeared to think the sin of Sodom
was its inhospitality to strangers. Before he sends off his
disciples to proclaim the good news, he tells them (Luke
8-12):

"When you enter a town and are welcomed, eat what is offered
to you. Heal the sick who are there and tell them, `The
kingdom of God has come near to you.' But when you enter a
town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,
`Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a
warning to you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God has
come near.'

"I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom
than for that town."

In the first place, it is far from a slam-dunk that Sodom
was destroyed for homosexuality. In the second place, the
anal sex in question was not consensual between the members
of a loving couple. The men of Sodom threatened Lot's
visitors with rape. Rape is always a sin, regardless of the
gender of the people involved.

In the third place, there's no indication in the Bible 
story that the men of Sodom were homosexual. Throughout
history, anal rape has been committed by heterosexual men
against other men as a means of humiliation, subjection, and 
punishment. It takes place in prisons all the time to this
very day. It isn't about sex, it's about violence and 
dominance.

It's very far from the loving sexual relations between
homosexuals. (Or heterosexuals, for that matter, among whom
anal sex is a common practice.)

Bottom line, you've done a very poor, very ignorant job of
making your case against homosexuality. You don't come off
as a virtuous religious person; you come off as a bigot.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What homophobes are *really* afraid of

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
> That they'll have to compete with gay women to get any sex at all. :-)
>
"Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trangender, Queer and Intersex during Gay
Parade at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi, India on Saturday..."
Photo by Mohd Zakir.

 

Read more:

Hindustan Times, February 23, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/862co86 

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[curtisdeltablues]

Emily,

Great that you are immersed in live music!  Especially acoustic style.  
Sometimes I share a stage with bluegrass guys at a "roots" festival but usually 
bluegrass people don't want straight up blues at their festivals.  They were 
closer in the early 1900's but have split further apart since. I played in a 
bluegrass band in college. There is more than a little white/black split now 
that was not as pronounced at the turn of the century.  Banjo was originally a 
black instrument after all, so obviously there was more mixing in the 
beginning. 

They are dealing with the same subjects of life from different cultures, I 
don't believe one has a higher ground of positivity. Bluegrass just hides their 
same blues topics in bouncy music derived from Scottish and Irish jig music 
instead of the work song beat behind the blues.  Same topics, and if anything 
bluegrass and folk gets even darker behind those big multi-note run smiles. You 
might like Piedmont style blues if you like your life lesson wrapped in a more 
bouncy beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kjUW5T_qE&feature=related

Some Piedmont style is influenced by ragtime which adds loads more of what I 
term "diddily-dee" into the music.

I prefer the less busy Delta style but play some of this style for a contrast.

My ear tires of the busyness of bluegrass after a song or two despite my 
appreciation of its acoustic mastery. But just like with blues I am a pre 
1940's guy.  After the 40's they started that rolling Scruggs style picking on 
their African invented banjos and I don't feel it that way.  I like clawhammer 
old time banjo if I am going to lend my ears to that instrument. 

For me bluegrass is a girl who shoves you from behind and when you turn around 
she has skittered off and is giggling with her friends while pointing to you to 
show you that she "likes" likes you.

Blues is a chick who walks slowly across the dance floor toward me and I rise 
to meet her halfway. When I take her by the hands she steps inside my arms so 
our hips touch, first looking down and then slowly turning her face up toward 
mine as if we are about to kiss.  Then we start moving together, working out 
all the technical details vertically that will come in handy when the party 
moves to the horizontal. I hear the nonstop chattering of the busy little 
bluegrass girl on the edges of the dance floor fade as I inhale the mixture of 
sweat and drugstore perfume that is all woman.

Have fun being music saturated!  What a blast no matter what style floats your 
boat.  











--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass and 
> etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days. Â You would be perfect 
> for this venue. Â Some serious greats are here. Â I mean seriously spiritual 
> greats. Â  The jams are taking over the entire Hyatt. Â Look it up. Â I'll 
> get back to you..the music here is incredible. Â Bluegrass is the redifined 
> bluesthe positive spin. Â  Â 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: curtisdeltablues 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
>  
> 
> Â  
> Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read any of my 
> drivel here.  I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them. 
> 
> This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great comedic 
> writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/2012/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> 
> This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been consistently cranking 
> out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter than I am.
> 
> But a man can dream!  Thanks for your kind words.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.  I think you 
> > could produce a rockin' commentary column - let's see - what could you call 
> > it?  
> > 
> > This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is often very, 
> > very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the Seattle Times and 
> > even looks a little like you - his column is called "The Wrap."  Ha.  
> > He's got nothing on your food metaphors though.
> > 
> > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: curtisdeltablues 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > > 
> > > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously.  This is euphoric.  
> > 
> > Hi Emily,
> > 
> > Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind words.  I have 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wilders and Dave Alvin....yes Dave Alvin...

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Seriously, if you ever get a chance to hear these guys live, go for it:
> 
> Dave Alvin - Harlon County Line
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSU9vIzFCzk

Great stuff.  Music all black, singing all white.  It fits the series perfectly 
too, I'm glad you turned me on to where their music comes from.

> 
> 
> The Wilders -  this doesn't even do them justice.  
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzTUINX-OWI&feature=related


I'm sure this is all better live.  bluegrass tells your shoulders how to move, 
blues tells your hips how to move.

You know which one I'm going with!








>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you beat a chimp?

[marekreavis]

Wow, Cardemaister, that's remarkable! Great find.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJAH4ZJBiN8
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[curtisdeltablues]

Blues and bluegrass meet most successfully in these fingers IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYycvVKJlA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL94894533138AC90C

Doc Watson.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass and 
> etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days.  You would be perfect 
> for this venue.  Some serious greats are here.  I mean seriously spiritual 
> greats.   The jams are taking over the entire Hyatt.  Look it up.  I'll 
> get back to you..the music here is incredible.  Bluegrass is the redifined 
> bluesthe positive spin.    
> 
> 
> 
>  From: curtisdeltablues 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
>  
> 
>   
> Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read any of my 
> drivel here.  I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them. 
> 
> This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great comedic 
> writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/2012/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> 
> This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been consistently cranking 
> out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter than I am.
> 
> But a man can dream!  Thanks for your kind words.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.  I think you 
> > could produce a rockin' commentary column - let's see - what could you call 
> > it?  
> > 
> > This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is often very, 
> > very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the Seattle Times and 
> > even looks a little like you - his column is called "The Wrap."  Ha. 
> >  He's got nothing on your food metaphors though.
> > 
> > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: curtisdeltablues 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > > 
> > > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously.  This is euphoric.  
> > 
> > Hi Emily,
> > 
> > Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind words.  I have 
> > a google alert set to "narcissism" so I get and email when my stage name is 
> > mentioned even when I am off FFL.  Do you use these alerts on subjects you 
> > are interested in?  It is free under google news and is one of the coolest 
> > services on the Web.  I have a bunch of them set for all my interests.
> > 
> > The idea that you enjoyed my music,and your belief that more should hear 
> > it, will serve as the wind beneath my wings today as I serve in my role as 
> > one man band, one man marketing department, one man roadie and one man 
> > groupie. 
> > 
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[seventhray1]

Probably shows the lack of depth of my Doc Watson repertoire, but this
has always been my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-1G6Wif8s



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
>
> Blues and bluegrass meet most successfully in these fingers IMO:
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYycvVKJlA&feature=results_video&playnex\
t=1&list=PL94894533138AC90C
>
> Doc Watson.
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> >
> > Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass and
etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days. Â You would be
perfect for this venue. Â Some serious greats are here. Â I mean
seriously spiritual greats. Â  The jams are taking over the entire
Hyatt. Â Look it up. Â I'll get back to you..the music here is
incredible. Â Bluegrass is the redifined bluesthe positive spin.
  Â
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read any of
my drivel here. I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them.
> >
> > This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great
comedic writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> >
> >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/20\
12/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> >
> > This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been consistently
cranking out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter than I
am.
> >
> > But a man can dream! Thanks for your kind words.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.
 I think you could produce a rockin' commentary column - let's
see - what could you call it? ÂÂ
> > >
> > > This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is often
very, very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the Seattle
Times and even looks a little like you - his column is called "The
Wrap."  Ha.  He's got nothing on your food metaphors
though.
> > >
> > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: curtisdeltablues 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously.  This is
euphoric. ÂÂ
> > >
> > > Hi Emily,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind words.
I have a google alert set to "narcissism" so I get and email when my
stage name is mentioned even when I am off FFL. Do you use these alerts
on subjects you are interested in? It is free under google news and is
one of the coolest services on the Web. I have a bunch of them set for
all my interests.
> > >
> > > The idea that you enjoyed my music,and your belief that more
should hear it, will serve as the wind beneath my wings today as I serve
in my role as one man band, one man marketing department, one man roadie
and one man groupie.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[curtisdeltablues]

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Probably shows the lack of depth of my Doc Watson repertoire, but this
> has always been my favorite.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-1G6Wif8s
> 

I'm no Doc Watson expert either.  I like Johnny's version of that song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_X_SWuwM7k&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL94BDA890F73A77E6

He has so much blues in his country.









> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Blues and bluegrass meet most successfully in these fingers IMO:
> >
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYycvVKJlA&feature=results_video&playnex\
> t=1&list=PL94894533138AC90C
> >
> > Doc Watson.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass and
> etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days. Â You would be
> perfect for this venue. Â Some serious greats are here. Â I mean
> seriously spiritual greats. Â  The jams are taking over the entire
> Hyatt. Â Look it up. Â I'll get back to you..the music here is
> incredible. Â Bluegrass is the redifined bluesthe positive spin.
> Â  Â
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read any of
> my drivel here. I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them.
> > >
> > > This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great
> comedic writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/20\
> 12/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> > >
> > > This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been consistently
> cranking out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter than I
> am.
> > >
> > > But a man can dream! Thanks for your kind words.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.
>  I think you could produce a rockin' commentary column - let's
> see - what could you call it? ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is often
> very, very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the Seattle
> Times and even looks a little like you - his column is called "The
> Wrap."  Ha.  He's got nothing on your food metaphors
> though.
> > > >
> > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: curtisdeltablues 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously.  This is
> euphoric. ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > Hi Emily,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind words.
> I have a google alert set to "narcissism" so I get and email when my
> stage name is mentioned even when I am off FFL. Do you use these alerts
> on subjects you are interested in? It is free under google news and is
> one of the coolest services on the Web. I have a bunch of them set for
> all my interests.
> > > >
> > > > The idea that you enjoyed my music,and your belief that more
> should hear it, will serve as the wind beneath my wings today as I serve
> in my role as one man band, one man marketing department, one man roadie
> and one man groupie.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you beat a chimp?

[curtisdeltablues]

Double wow!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> Wow, Cardemaister, that's remarkable! Great find.
> 
> ***
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJAH4ZJBiN8
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[seventhray1]

Thanks.  Also gives me a chance to show my depth of Johnny's repertoire,
but still my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
>
> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Probably shows the lack of depth of my Doc Watson repertoire, but
this
> > has always been my favorite.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-1G6Wif8s
> > 
>
> I'm no Doc Watson expert either. I like Johnny's version of that song:
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_X_SWuwM7k&feature=results_video&playnex\
t=1&list=PL94BDA890F73A77E6
>
> He has so much blues in his country.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Blues and bluegrass meet most successfully in these fingers IMO:
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYycvVKJlA&feature=results_video&playnex\
\
> > t=1&list=PL94894533138AC90C
> > >
> > > Doc Watson.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass
and
> > etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days. Â You would
be
> > perfect for this venue. Â Some serious greats are here. Â I
mean
> > seriously spiritual greats. Â The jams are taking over the entire
> > Hyatt. Â Look it up. Â I'll get back to you..the music here is
> > incredible. Â Bluegrass is the redifined bluesthe positive
spin.
> > Â Â
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read
any of
> > my drivel here. I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them.
> > > >
> > > > This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great
> > comedic writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/20\
\
> > 12/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> > > >
> > > > This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been
consistently
> > cranking out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter
than I
> > am.
> > > >
> > > > But a man can dream! Thanks for your kind words.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn

> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.
> >  I think you could produce a rockin' commentary column -
let's
> > see - what could you call it? ÂÂ
> > > > >
> > > > > This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is
often
> > very, very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the
Seattle
> > Times and even looks a little like you - his column is called "The
> > Wrap."  Ha.  He's got nothing on your food metaphors
> > though.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: curtisdeltablues 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÂÂ
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn

> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously. ÂÂ
This is
> > euphoric. ÂÂ
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Emily,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind
words.
> > I have a google alert set to "narcissism" so I get and email when my
> > stage name is mentioned even when I am off FFL. Do you use these
alerts
> > on subjects you are interested in? It is free under google news and
is
> > one of the coolest services on the Web. I have a bunch of them set
for
> > all my interests.
> > > > >
> > > > > The idea that you enjoyed my music,and your belief that more
> > should hear it, will serve as the wind beneath my wings today as I
serve
> > in my role as one man band, one man marketing department, one man
roadie
> > and one man groupie.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[seventhray1]

And those horns remind me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_KDPUTyDyQ


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks.  Also gives me a chance to show my depth of Johnny's repertoire,
> but still my favorite.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Probably shows the lack of depth of my Doc Watson repertoire, but
> this
> > > has always been my favorite.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-1G6Wif8s
> > > 
> >
> > I'm no Doc Watson expert either. I like Johnny's version of that song:
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_X_SWuwM7k&feature=results_video&playnex\
> t=1&list=PL94BDA890F73A77E6
> >
> > He has so much blues in his country.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Blues and bluegrass meet most successfully in these fingers IMO:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYycvVKJlA&feature=results_video&playnex\
> \
> > > t=1&list=PL94894533138AC90C
> > > >
> > > > Doc Watson.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass
> and
> > > etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days. Â You would
> be
> > > perfect for this venue. Â Some serious greats are here. Â I
> mean
> > > seriously spiritual greats. Â The jams are taking over the entire
> > > Hyatt. Â Look it up. Â I'll get back to you..the music here is
> > > incredible. Â Bluegrass is the redifined bluesthe positive
> spin.
> > > Â Â
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read
> any of
> > > my drivel here. I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great
> > > comedic writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/20\
> \
> > > 12/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> > > > >
> > > > > This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been
> consistently
> > > cranking out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter
> than I
> > > am.
> > > > >
> > > > > But a man can dream! Thanks for your kind words.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.
> > >  I think you could produce a rockin' commentary column -
> let's
> > > see - what could you call it? ÂÂ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This guy, Ron Judd, reminds me of your style at times and is
> often
> > > very, very, funny, with a biting wit.  He writes for the
> Seattle
> > > Times and even looks a little like you - his column is called "The
> > > Wrap."  Ha.  He's got nothing on your food metaphors
> > > though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: curtisdeltablues 
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:50 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÂÂ
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know, in case you're lurking.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.curtisblues.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You need a marketing manager.  Seriously. ÂÂ
> This is
> > > euphoric. ÂÂ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Emily,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks so much for both checking out my music and your kind
> words.
> > > I have a google alert set to "narcissism" so I get and email when my
> > > stage name is mentioned even when I am off FFL. Do you use these
> alerts
> > > on subjects you are interested in? It is free under google news and
> is
> > > one of the coolest services on the Web. I have a bunch of them set
> for
> > > all my interests.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The idea that you enjoyed my music,and your belief that more
> > > should hear it, will serve as the wind beneath my wings today as I
> serve
> > > in my role as one man band, one man marketing department, one man
> roadie
> > > and one man groupie.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Coward! Surely you have heard that if you don't learn the
> > > > lessons of the past you are doomed to repeat them, well
> > > > surely you've heard of *Sodom and Gomorrah* right?
> > > 
> > > You mean, that they were destroyed because their residents
> > > were arrogant and overfed and led comfortable lives but
> > > didn't help the poor (Ezek. 6:49)?
> > 
> > In Christian and Islamic traditions, Sodom and Gomorrah have
> > become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a 
> > proverbial manifestation of God's wrath.[2][Jude 1:7] Sodom
> > and Gomorrah have also been used as metaphors for vice and 
> > homosexuality viewed as a deviation. The story has therefore
> > given rise to words in several languages, including the
> > English word sodomy, used in so-called sodomy laws to describe
> > a sexual "crime against nature" consisting of anal sex, either 
> > homosexual or heterosexual.[3]
> 
> You need to read the rest of this Wikipedia page, BillyG:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah
> 
> (You also need to learn to cite your sources, BTW.)
> 
> Not incidentally, Jesus appeared to think the sin of Sodom
> was its inhospitality to strangers. Before he sends off his
> disciples to proclaim the good news, he tells them (Luke
> 8-12):
> 
> "When you enter a town and are welcomed, eat what is offered
> to you. Heal the sick who are there and tell them, `The
> kingdom of God has come near to you.' But when you enter a
> town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,
> `Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a
> warning to you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God has
> come near.'
> 
> "I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom
> than for that town."
> 
> In the first place, it is far from a slam-dunk that Sodom
> was destroyed for homosexuality. In the second place, the
> anal sex in question was not consensual between the members
> of a loving couple. The men of Sodom threatened Lot's
> visitors with rape. Rape is always a sin, regardless of the
> gender of the people involved.
> 
> In the third place, there's no indication in the Bible 
> story that the men of Sodom were homosexual. Throughout
> history, anal rape has been committed by heterosexual men
> against other men as a means of humiliation, subjection, and 
> punishment. It takes place in prisons all the time to this
> very day. It isn't about sex, it's about violence and 
> dominance.
> 
> It's very far from the loving sexual relations between
> homosexuals. (Or heterosexuals, for that matter, among whom
> anal sex is a common practice.)
> 
> Bottom line, you've done a very poor, very ignorant job of
> making your case against homosexuality. You don't come off
> as a virtuous religious person; you come off as a bigot.

You don't even have to go to Sodom and Gomorrah, the principle is the same, 
whether it be lust, anger, or greed. Breaking natural law results in 
destruction of one sort or another, it's all the same!

Homosexuality is not in harmony with natural law, sorry. Anal sex (sodomy) is 
not love Judy, how can it be called 'loving'?

Just read what MMY wrote in the Gita CHIvs13 "Nature ensures great flexibility 
for the growth of good or evil in the atmosphere, but when an influence grows 
beyond elastic limits, nature will no longer sustain it, suddenly the breaking 
point is reached".

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> 
> > Like duh...could you elaborate?, I think the
> > Rauch has blown his wad, but there may be other good rebuttals..
> >
> Maybe if you asked without such an agenda behind it, you could have
> gotten a response.  I would have liked to hear what Raunchy had to say.
> 
> Let me take a shot at it.  We know that everyone one of us has a sex
> drive, that needs to be satisfied.  And if your attraction is towards
> the same sex, then I guess that is how you are going to go about
> satisfying it.
> 
> I gather that your objection to this is that one is proscribed from
> doing so by the Bible.  But maybe one is not so much the religious type.
> Or perhaps more likely, ones sex drive trumps a religous proscription. 
> So, you are faced with trading one dysfunction for another.
> 
> Your solution, I gather, is some sort of therapy to correct the "mixup",
> with a religious dicatate as a backdrop.  From what I hear, that doesn't
> seem to work in most cases.
> 
> I will say that the whole process seems to work better, or at least more
> easily, (see naturally) between a man and women, but work arounds are
> pretty easy.
> 
> I remember it was somewhat a mild shock when a prominient interior
> decorator was giving us a tour of his condominium, and showed us the
> elaborate bedroom he shared with Vince, his partner.  It just sort of
> took me aback,  not in judgemental way, but more in a rather humurous
> way.  I mean, this was one well furnished and delicately appointed
> bedroom.

There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they made 
that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or previous ones, 
it's that simple.

One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to learn 
the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well know.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[marekreavis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Many people, though far fewer than still needed to put to rest moral judgments 
of purely natural behavior, believe and feel that homosexual orientation is 
just what some percentage of any population feels. It has no moral significance 
whatsoever for lots and lots of folks.

Your argument appears to be that people who are homosexual should adopt your 
moral interpretation and then feel bad about themselves. Just imagine for a 
moment, if you will, your worst fears realized and a now majority empowered gay 
society really *did* want to impose their homosexual values and orientation on 
you. Telling you that it was evil and wrong to feel the way you do about 
members of the opposite sex. Wouldn't that seem wrong? Isn't your sexual 
attraction towards others (or lack thereof) just a fundamental element of your 
personhood?

The "homesexuality is unnatural" argument carries no weight as evidenced in the 
science of simple observation of all the examples in nature.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Like duh...could you elaborate?, I think the
> > > Rauch has blown his wad, but there may be other good rebuttals..
> > >
> > Maybe if you asked without such an agenda behind it, you could have
> > gotten a response.  I would have liked to hear what Raunchy had to say.
> > 
> > Let me take a shot at it.  We know that everyone one of us has a sex
> > drive, that needs to be satisfied.  And if your attraction is towards
> > the same sex, then I guess that is how you are going to go about
> > satisfying it.
> > 
> > I gather that your objection to this is that one is proscribed from
> > doing so by the Bible.  But maybe one is not so much the religious type.
> > Or perhaps more likely, ones sex drive trumps a religous proscription. 
> > So, you are faced with trading one dysfunction for another.
> > 
> > Your solution, I gather, is some sort of therapy to correct the "mixup",
> > with a religious dicatate as a backdrop.  From what I hear, that doesn't
> > seem to work in most cases.
> > 
> > I will say that the whole process seems to work better, or at least more
> > easily, (see naturally) between a man and women, but work arounds are
> > pretty easy.
> > 
> > I remember it was somewhat a mild shock when a prominient interior
> > decorator was giving us a tour of his condominium, and showed us the
> > elaborate bedroom he shared with Vince, his partner.  It just sort of
> > took me aback,  not in judgemental way, but more in a rather humurous
> > way.  I mean, this was one well furnished and delicately appointed
> > bedroom.
> 
> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they made 
> that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or previous 
> ones, it's that simple.
> 
> One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
> Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to 
> learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well 
> know.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think About It... Are You Walking In The Light?

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paulo Barbosa"  wrote:
>
> Think About It... Are You Walking In The Light?
> 
> "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
> fellowship one with another, and the blood of  Jesus  Christ
> his Son cleanseth us from all sin" (1 John 1:7).
> 
> If we want to have a victorious life,  and  peace  with  our
> neighborandgoodrelationshipwithGod,
>  we need to walk in the light of Christ, glorifying  Him  in
> all our actituds. Think about it...
> 
> Paulo Barbosa

Yes, this is beautiful, and that inner light is discovered during meditation 
and that very same light is the light of Christ. That light purifies our bodies 
of all sin and makes us fit for eternal life.

That 'blood of Jesus Christ' IS the light and has been called by many names 
down through History, the Hindus call that light Krishna (Krishna 
Consciousness).

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
> 
> Many people, though far fewer than still needed to put to rest moral 
> judgments of purely natural behavior, believe and feel that homosexual 
> orientation is just what some percentage of any population feels. It has no 
> moral significance whatsoever for lots and lots of folks.
> 
> Your argument appears to be that people who are homosexual should adopt your 
> moral interpretation and then feel bad about themselves. Just imagine for a 
> moment, if you will, your worst fears realized and a now majority empowered 
> gay society really *did* want to impose their homosexual values and 
> orientation on you. Telling you that it was evil and wrong to feel the way 
> you do about members of the opposite sex. Wouldn't that seem wrong? Isn't 
> your sexual attraction towards others (or lack thereof) just a fundamental 
> element of your personhood?
> 
> The "homesexuality is unnatural" argument carries no weight as evidenced in 
> the science of simple observation of all the examples in nature.

One is in harmony with Natural Law and one isn't, "the moon is not disturbed by 
the baying of wolves", the truth will always remain the same, it's just up to 
us to discover what this truth is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
> 
> Many people, though far fewer than still needed to put to rest moral 
> judgments of purely natural behavior, believe and feel that homosexual 
> orientation is just what some percentage of any population feels. It has no 
> moral significance whatsoever for lots and lots of folks.
> 
> Your argument appears to be that people who are homosexual should adopt your 
> moral interpretation and then feel bad about themselves. Just imagine for a 
> moment, if you will, your worst fears realized and a now majority empowered 
> gay society really *did* want to impose their homosexual values and 
> orientation on you. Telling you that it was evil and wrong to feel the way 
> you do about members of the opposite sex. Wouldn't that seem wrong? Isn't 
> your sexual attraction towards others (or lack thereof) just a fundamental 
> element of your personhood?

I think your argument Mark suggests that we should spare the feelings of 
homosexuals by not expressing contrary views to theirs, but I would submit to 
you that if a leader in Society did that he/she would be abdicating their 
'parental role' in guiding the destiny of mankind and this individual in 
particular. In short, you'd be doing a dis-service to this individual, after 
allwhat if I am right? (I, of course believe I am).


 
> The "homesexuality is unnatural" argument carries no weight as evidenced in 
> the science of simple observation of all the examples in nature.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
> 
> Many people, though far fewer than still needed to put to rest moral 
> judgments of purely natural behavior, believe and feel that homosexual 
> orientation is just what some percentage of any population feels. It has no 
> moral significance whatsoever for lots and lots of folks.
> 
> Your argument appears to be that people who are homosexual should adopt your 
> moral interpretation and then feel bad about themselves. Just imagine for a 
> moment, if you will, your worst fears realized and a now majority empowered 
> gay society really *did* want to impose their homosexual values and 
> orientation on you. Telling you that it was evil and wrong to feel the way 
> you do about members of the opposite sex. Wouldn't that seem wrong? Isn't 
> your sexual attraction towards others (or lack thereof) just a fundamental 
> element of your personhood?
> 
> The "homesexuality is unnatural" argument carries no weight as evidenced in 
> the science of simple observation of all the examples in nature.
> 

Excellent post, marekreavis. Billy will never understanding why homosexuals 
penguins don't adopt *his* moral interpretation according *his* Bible. Nice try 
though.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/404343/december-14-2011/stephen-colbert-s-big-gay-roundup---military-bestiality---homosexual-penguins


> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Like duh...could you elaborate?, I think the
> > > > Rauch has blown his wad, but there may be other good rebuttals..
> > > >
> > > Maybe if you asked without such an agenda behind it, you could have
> > > gotten a response.  I would have liked to hear what Raunchy had to say.
> > > 
> > > Let me take a shot at it.  We know that everyone one of us has a sex
> > > drive, that needs to be satisfied.  And if your attraction is towards
> > > the same sex, then I guess that is how you are going to go about
> > > satisfying it.
> > > 
> > > I gather that your objection to this is that one is proscribed from
> > > doing so by the Bible.  But maybe one is not so much the religious type.
> > > Or perhaps more likely, ones sex drive trumps a religous proscription. 
> > > So, you are faced with trading one dysfunction for another.
> > > 
> > > Your solution, I gather, is some sort of therapy to correct the "mixup",
> > > with a religious dicatate as a backdrop.  From what I hear, that doesn't
> > > seem to work in most cases.
> > > 
> > > I will say that the whole process seems to work better, or at least more
> > > easily, (see naturally) between a man and women, but work arounds are
> > > pretty easy.
> > > 
> > > I remember it was somewhat a mild shock when a prominient interior
> > > decorator was giving us a tour of his condominium, and showed us the
> > > elaborate bedroom he shared with Vince, his partner.  It just sort of
> > > took me aback,  not in judgemental way, but more in a rather humurous
> > > way.  I mean, this was one well furnished and delicately appointed
> > > bedroom.
> > 
> > There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they 
> > made that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or 
> > previous ones, it's that simple.
> > 
> > One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
> > Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to 
> > learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well 
> > know.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:

> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they made 
> that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or previous 
> ones, it's that simple.

I always wonder when I hear this argument if it is in fact a revelation that 
the writer made an active choice on their sexual orientation. I figure you are 
probably not gay so I am not going there. But I am curious about this concept 
of choice because my sexuality did not emerge with any element of that.  The 
"magic" was held by the girls for me.  And for my gay cousin it was in boys for 
him at the same early age.  Ignoring the past life choices angle which is too 
far fetched to address, sexual attraction is not a choice, it is a much deeper 
urge.

Was it a choice for you?

> 
> One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
> Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to 
> learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well 
> know.

They have both shown the same dismal record shifting people out of gayness as 
they have had making people better in any noticeable way.  Part of the problem 
is all those silks and robes, I mean, if you are trying to keep people from 
being more gay you might want to tighten up on butchness of the 
spiritual/religious wardrobe a bit.  







>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Like duh...could you elaborate?, I think the
> > > Rauch has blown his wad, but there may be other good rebuttals..
> > >
> > Maybe if you asked without such an agenda behind it, you could have
> > gotten a response.  I would have liked to hear what Raunchy had to say.
> > 
> > Let me take a shot at it.  We know that everyone one of us has a sex
> > drive, that needs to be satisfied.  And if your attraction is towards
> > the same sex, then I guess that is how you are going to go about
> > satisfying it.
> > 
> > I gather that your objection to this is that one is proscribed from
> > doing so by the Bible.  But maybe one is not so much the religious type.
> > Or perhaps more likely, ones sex drive trumps a religous proscription. 
> > So, you are faced with trading one dysfunction for another.
> > 
> > Your solution, I gather, is some sort of therapy to correct the "mixup",
> > with a religious dicatate as a backdrop.  From what I hear, that doesn't
> > seem to work in most cases.
> > 
> > I will say that the whole process seems to work better, or at least more
> > easily, (see naturally) between a man and women, but work arounds are
> > pretty easy.
> > 
> > I remember it was somewhat a mild shock when a prominient interior
> > decorator was giving us a tour of his condominium, and showed us the
> > elaborate bedroom he shared with Vince, his partner.  It just sort of
> > took me aback,  not in judgemental way, but more in a rather humurous
> > way.  I mean, this was one well furnished and delicately appointed
> > bedroom.
> 
> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they made 
> that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or previous 
> ones, it's that simple.
> 
> One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
> Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to 
> learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well 
> know.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:

> Excellent post, marekreavis. Billy will never understanding why homosexuals 
> penguins don't adopt *his* moral interpretation according *his* Bible. Nice 
> try though.
> 
> http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/404343/december-14-2011/stephen-colbert-s-big-gay-roundup---military-bestiality---homosexual-penguins

There will always be anomalies in nature, but if you believe that it is natural 
or normal for a penis to be put into an anus at any time for any reason you 
must be a moral imbecile. It's as plain as the nose on your face, it don't 
belong there, what more do you need to know? Have we lost all of our common 
sense in this 'modern' age we live in?

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[marekreavis]

"One is in harmony with natural law or one isn't."

Okay. But what is the criteria? There are lots and lots of people who are 
willing to tell you how you should live your life so as to be in accord with 
their beliefs about the way things *should* be;  you are one, apparently, lots 
of priests and mullahs are in that category, Rick Santorum and a lot of 
Republicans are, too; lots of people want to tell others how they *should* be, 
but they all use different criteria (or rather, they mostly cite different 
books).

Is there a simple, universal criteria that you use? *Is* there any simple, 
universal criteria?Saying "natural law" doesn't mean anything without an agreed 
upon definition (and it's obvious that when emotions are involved, even an 
otherwise intelligent person can't get their emotional responses to submit to a 
dictionary definition of a commonly used term.)

There is a lot to be said for "live and let live" even when you don't see eye 
to eye with choices others make. (And I'm not saying that doing manifest harm 
to another is okay; however, speculation that harm might somehow be perpetrated 
in some magical spiritual fashion isn't, in my opinion, grounds for attacking, 
demonizing, and coercing others to act and be a certain way on the "material 
plane".) 

It appears to me that most people read and listen primarily to sources that 
already agree with their pre-formed opinions and presumptions. It's 
uncomfortable to examine perspective different from one's own, and I'm just as 
prone to that as the next guy or gal; however, I take comfort in finding that 
over time my feelings and understanding about different and (to me) important 
subjects have modified and changed. Leads me to believe I'm still working on 
getting to some aspect of what's true and not settling for a comfortable lie.

***


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
> > 
> > Many people, though far fewer than still needed to put to rest moral 
> > judgments of purely natural behavior, believe and feel that homosexual 
> > orientation is just what some percentage of any population feels. It has no 
> > moral significance whatsoever for lots and lots of folks.
> > 
> > Your argument appears to be that people who are homosexual should adopt 
> > your moral interpretation and then feel bad about themselves. Just imagine 
> > for a moment, if you will, your worst fears realized and a now majority 
> > empowered gay society really *did* want to impose their homosexual values 
> > and orientation on you. Telling you that it was evil and wrong to feel the 
> > way you do about members of the opposite sex. Wouldn't that seem wrong? 
> > Isn't your sexual attraction towards others (or lack thereof) just a 
> > fundamental element of your personhood?
> > 
> > The "homesexuality is unnatural" argument carries no weight as evidenced in 
> > the science of simple observation of all the examples in nature.
> 
> One is in harmony with Natural Law and one isn't, "the moon is not disturbed 
> by the baying of wolves", the truth will always remain the same, it's just up 
> to us to discover what this truth is.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> 
> > Excellent post, marekreavis. Billy will never understanding why homosexuals 
> > penguins don't adopt *his* moral interpretation according *his* Bible. Nice 
> > try though.
> > 
> > http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/404343/december-14-2011/stephen-colbert-s-big-gay-roundup---military-bestiality---homosexual-penguins
> 
> There will always be anomalies in nature, but if you believe that it is 
> natural or normal for a penis to be put into an anus at any time for any 
> reason you must be a moral imbecile.

It strikes me as "normal" as putting your fingers on guitar strings.  Your 
reference for normal is set at "provincial" at best and at "what I prefer" at 
worst.  By your standards almost none of the cool aspects of foreplay would 
pass the test.  Is this all just a ploy to get you off the hook for the stuff 
your woman wants you to do for her before you start the hump-O-matic?





 It's as plain as the nose on your face, it don't belong there, what more do 
you need to know? Have we lost all of our common sense in this 'modern' age we 
live in?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> 
> > There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they 
> > made that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or 
> > previous ones, it's that simple.
> 
> I always wonder when I hear this argument if it is in fact a revelation that 
> the writer made an active choice on their sexual orientation. I figure you 
> are probably not gay so I am not going there. But I am curious about this 
> concept of choice because my sexuality did not emerge with any element of 
> that.  The "magic" was held by the girls for me.  And for my gay cousin it 
> was in boys for him at the same early age.  Ignoring the past life choices 
> angle which is too far fetched to address, sexual attraction is not a choice, 
> it is a much deeper urge.
> 
> Was it a choice for you?

No, generally we're hardwired to be attracted to the 'opposite' sex,(in order 
to propagate the race) though that innate urge is *malleable* and therefor 
subject to behavior and freewill, IMO.

Someday the human race will evolve enough morally and will only have sex in the 
context of marriage and for children, that day has not come yet but it will 
usher in greater happiness for the human family.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[feste37]

You're confusing me here, because I had always assumed that your handle, wgm4u, 
was some kind of gay personals thing: White Gay Male for You.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> 
> > Excellent post, marekreavis. Billy will never understanding why homosexuals 
> > penguins don't adopt *his* moral interpretation according *his* Bible. Nice 
> > try though.
> > 
> > http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/404343/december-14-2011/stephen-colbert-s-big-gay-roundup---military-bestiality---homosexual-penguins
> 
> There will always be anomalies in nature, but if you believe that it is 
> natural or normal for a penis to be put into an anus at any time for any 
> reason you must be a moral imbecile. It's as plain as the nose on your face, 
> it don't belong there, what more do you need to know? Have we lost all of our 
> common sense in this 'modern' age we live in?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > 
> > > There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they 
> > > made that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or 
> > > previous ones, it's that simple.
> > 
> > I always wonder when I hear this argument if it is in fact a revelation 
> > that the writer made an active choice on their sexual orientation. I figure 
> > you are probably not gay so I am not going there. But I am curious about 
> > this concept of choice because my sexuality did not emerge with any element 
> > of that.  The "magic" was held by the girls for me.  And for my gay cousin 
> > it was in boys for him at the same early age.  Ignoring the past life 
> > choices angle which is too far fetched to address, sexual attraction is not 
> > a choice, it is a much deeper urge.
> > 
> > Was it a choice for you?
> 
> No, generally we're hardwired to be attracted to the 'opposite' sex,(in order 
> to propagate the race) though that innate urge is *malleable* and therefor 
> subject to behavior and freewill, IMO.

Interesting.  Not for me in the malleable department.  I am very turned off by 
any dudeness in a chick.  A lack of femininity can bring me right back to not 
interested like the Seinfeld episode with the woman the the man hands!  So with 
all my liberal leaning and gay friendliness I couldn't pull it off myself as a 
choice, I just wouldn't get the engine running on that track.

I had some deep talks with my cousin when he came out and it was the same for 
him.  He was deeply attracted to masculinity and femininity in men turned him 
off.  He always had super hunk boyfriends and no one would guess either of them 
were gay by the standard stereotypes.

So I guess for me, I can't see any free will about such an unconscious bias for 
me, so I figure it is the same for them.  

> 
> Someday the human race will evolve enough morally and will only have sex in 
> the context of marriage and for children, that day has not come yet but it 
> will usher in greater happiness for the human family.>

I think you might be missing the loving communication that sex brings couples 
outside the context of procreation.  What is a higher moral value than 
deepening your loving connection?  If sex isn't doing that for you then you are 
missing something important.  It might go back to all the stuff that your girl 
really wants you to do that you don't think of as "normal".








>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> You're confusing me here, because I had always assumed that your handle, 
> wgm4u, was some kind of gay personals thing: White Gay Male for You.  

Good chuckleha, ha, interested? No, I'm just here fighting the good fight 
against the politically correct (don't want to offend anybody) group. It's an 
unpopular position, it's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it!!  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[marekreavis]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:

> 
> There will always be anomalies in nature, but if you believe that it is 
> natural or normal for a penis to be put into an anus at any time for any 
> reason you must be a moral imbecile. It's as plain as the nose on your face, 
> it don't belong there, what more do you need to know? Have we lost all of our 
> common sense in this 'modern' age we live in?
>

///

Your reply reminded me of: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d63ClccjjE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Curtis, you were wrong to start with, and you haven't
> > made yourself any more right throughout this 
> > exchange, to the contrary.
> 
> I don't expect you to back down, you never do.

There's no reason for me to back down here.

> > You foolishly attacked me for using a term in a 
> > different sense than you prefer, insisting that your 
> > sense was the only possible one. I quoted the M-W 
> > dictionary definition showing that the general sense 
> > in which I was using it was perfectly acceptable.
> 
> The dictionary proved my point, the term is especially
> used in cases where the person is weaker because this
> relationship defines the term.

Nope. "Especially" does not mean "exclusively." The
dictionary's explanation of the terms it uses in its
definitions is explicit on this point. That there is
an "especially" sense of the term that limits its
meaning does not mean it cannot also be used in the
more general sense without that limitation.

Here's a similar example from M-W:

beggar: one that begs; especially: a person who lives by
asking for gifts

Obviously there are more ways to be a beggar than by
making a living asking for gifts.

Here's another:

pianist: a person who plays the piano; especially: a
skilled or professional performer on the piano

Obviously not everyone who plays the piano is a skilled
or professional performer.

And in any case, as I went on to point out and you
haven't been able to address, the "especially"
definition in M-W does not specify the nature of the
weakness of the bully's targets. It does not say the
power differential is a formal one (e.g., student/
teacher, employee/employer).

Since there are obviously all kinds of ad hoc power
differentials among nominal peers, the way I was
using the term even fits the "especially" definition.

> This principle is what the books and books about the
> subject emphasize as important in an understanding of
> how to apply the term.

That's fine, they use a more limited definition (even
more limited than the "especially" one in the 
dictionary) because formal power differentials are what
they want to emphasize in connection with bullying.
But again, this does not mean that the term cannot be
appropriately applied in the more general sense without
any implication of power differentials, or even that
the power differentials in the "especially" sense have
to be formal ones.

> > Then you made the bizarre leap of accusing me of 
> > using the term in your definition deliberately to 
> > make Sal look even worse than the sense in which I 
> > was using it.
> 
> Yes I am not buying your innocence in what the term refers
> to.  I believe you are unsuccessfully trying to bullshit me.
> You chose the word for the pejorative connotation of
> unfairness to amplify your general "poopy pants" name-calling 
> intention toward Sal in her absence.

Unfairness, certainly. But you've accused me, irrationally,
of using it to suggest a formal power differential between
Sal and those whom she bullies.

Where did you get the notion that I wasn't implying
unfairness??

> > You've left at least a dozen points I made on the 
> > table because you were unable to address them.>
> 
> Yes you wrote a lot of stuff in your attempt to overwhelm
> me.

Oh, poor Curtis, did you feel overwhelmed?

> And by attempting to spin my lack of interest in refuting
> every claim of yours

I am not buying your lack of interest excuse. I believe
you are unsuccessfully trying to bullshit me.

> you claim to win by virtue of writing more than I care to
> respond to. Your technique has not varied since I have known
> you.

Since you've known me, you've repeatedly left points you
were unable to respond to on the table. That's just how
you roll.

> If you don't acknowledge the definition's meaning I don't
> need to answer any other point.

Yeah, you need to answer the points I've made contesting
your version of the definition's meaning.

> By accusing me of bullying you, you have taken this
> discussion off the rational spectrum.

It's your bullying that has been irrational.

>  You 
> > did what you usually do when you're behind the 
> > eight-ball: You simply ignored my context and 
> > substituted your own.>
> 
> My POV does differ from yours and I expressed that as best
> as I can.

Let me say it another way: You simply ignored my context
and substituted your own.

As I went on to point out (and you didn't address):

> > In an honest debate, one is obligated to address the 
> > competing context. You haven't done that. You've 
> > simply reiterated your own context over and over, as 
> > if it were the only one that existed. In stark 
> > contrast, I've addressed every point you've brought 
> > up with regard to your own context.

I don't have to ignore your context to express my POV. I
can acknowledge your context and address it and still

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:

> Someday the human race will evolve enough morally and will only
> have sex in the context of marriage and for children, that day
> has not come yet but it will usher in greater happiness for the
> human family.

So infertile couples will not have sex, nor will couples in
which the woman is past childbearing age. Right, BillyG?

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[feste37]

You sound like you might be a big fan of Rick Santorum. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > You're confusing me here, because I had always assumed that your handle, 
> > wgm4u, was some kind of gay personals thing: White Gay Male for You.  
> 
> Good chuckleha, ha, interested? No, I'm just here fighting the good fight 
> against the politically correct (don't want to offend anybody) group. It's an 
> unpopular position, it's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it!!  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY,
they made that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life
or previous ones, it's that simple.
I think that if you are willing to incorporate the idea of past lives,
that you may have a point.  At least this is what I have picked up along
the way.

> One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing
Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to
learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you
well know.
A lot of people in general have sexual pecadilloes.  It seems like gay
men in particular have many issues they have to work through.  And most
seem to find happiness when they reconcile themselves to being gay.  For
whatever reason, it seems (to me at least) that women do not seem to
agonize as much when they choose, or recognize, that they are lesbian. 
Whether being gay is a "sin" that radiates out and weakens a culture, I
cannot say.   I mean, I cannot say if meditating in a large group
radiates a positive influence, but I am inclined to think it does.  But
to what extent, I cannot say.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> 
> > Someday the human race will evolve enough morally and will only
> > have sex in the context of marriage and for children, that day
> > has not come yet but it will usher in greater happiness for the
> > human family.
> 
> So infertile couples will not have sex, nor will couples in
> which the woman is past childbearing age. Right, BillyG?

Right! And we will install cameras in everybody's bedrooms.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[jpgillam]

That Louis CK bit is hilarious!

As for anal sex, more heteros than homos engage 
in anal sex, for the same reason that you'll find 
more English speakers in China than in the United States. 

I've tried to write a few lines objecting to wgm4u's 
moral imbecility, but I just end up deleting them. 
When I talk to my dog, I just do it for the fun of it. 
Talking to wgm4u is not fun.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > There will always be anomalies in nature, but if you believe that it is 
> > natural or normal for a penis to be put into an anus at any time for any 
> > reason you must be a moral imbecile. It's as plain as the nose on your 
> > face, it don't belong there, what more do you need to know? Have we lost 
> > all of our common sense in this 'modern' age we live in?
> >
> 
> ///
> 
> Your reply reminded me of: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d63ClccjjE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam"  wrote:
>
> That Louis CK bit is hilarious!
> 
> As for anal sex, more heteros than homos engage 
> in anal sex, for the same reason that you'll find 
> more English speakers in China than in the United States. 
> 
> I've tried to write a few lines objecting to wgm4u's 
> moral imbecility, but I just end up deleting them. 
> When I talk to my dog, I just do it for the fun of it. 
> Talking to wgm4u is not fun.

Chicken!

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY,
> they made that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life
> or previous ones, it's that simple.
> I think that if you are willing to incorporate the idea of past lives,
> that you may have a point.  At least this is what I have picked up along
> the way.
> 
> > One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing
> Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to
> learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you
> well know.
> A lot of people in general have sexual pecadilloes.  It seems like gay
> men in particular have many issues they have to work through.  And most
> seem to find happiness when they reconcile themselves to being gay.  For
> whatever reason, it seems (to me at least) that women do not seem to
> agonize as much when they choose, or recognize, that they are lesbian. 
> Whether being gay is a "sin" that radiates out and weakens a culture, I
> cannot say.   I mean, I cannot say if meditating in a large group
> radiates a positive influence, but I am inclined to think it does.  But
> to what extent, I cannot say.

I appreciated your frank, well thought out comments.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam"  wrote:
> >
> > That Louis CK bit is hilarious!
> > 
> > As for anal sex, more heteros than homos engage 
> > in anal sex, for the same reason that you'll find 
> > more English speakers in China than in the United States. 
> > 
> > I've tried to write a few lines objecting to wgm4u's 
> > moral imbecility, but I just end up deleting them. 
> > When I talk to my dog, I just do it for the fun of it. 


Did you bring up the subject with him, and what did he have to say ? :-)

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi - A Promise for the Family of Man

[nablusoss1008]

 [Varselikon] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi giving a lecture in Jones Hall,
Texas in 1972.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k3swI5n_mW0
 #!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two Americans Killed in Kabul

[Bhairitu]

We can't afford the involvement we've had let alone another 20 years.   
Time to ramp up the anti-war movement more.  I've taken to calling the 
Defense Industry the "Offense Industry" because that's what it has 
become.  We live in a nation run by fools.

On 02/25/2012 08:37 PM, seekliberation wrote:
> the war in Afghanistan hasn't really been justified for a long time.  The 
> moment intelligence indicated that Bin Laden fled to Pakistan, we should've 
> gone in and found him and ignored Afghanistan altogether.
>
> Of course, Afghanistan is a much more complicated issue than just finding Bin 
> Laden.  Our involvement there is a 30+ year strategic involvement.
>
> seekliberation
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> On 02/25/2012 10:59 AM, John wrote:
 This is just another indication the US should get out of Afghanistan as 
 soon as possible.  The Taliban may have instigated all of this rioting.  
 But it's clear the Afghanis are frustrated and tired of the NATO forces in 
 their country.

 http://news.yahoo.com/one-killed-fifth-day-afghanistan-protests-074940486.html
>>> You could say that the US's economic problems are it's karma for
>>> invading sovereign countries.  And indeed a lot of it is bad karma for
>>> spending money it didn't have to run these campaigns.
>>>
>>> I don't blame the Afghanis at all.  If you've had the chance to see
>>> films from the Middle East you'll recognize that they live very laid
>>> back lifestyles.  They only need to work a few hours a day and older
>>> folks just spend the day hanging out at the square playing Parcheesi and
>>> chatting with their neighbors.  So who the hell there would WANT the
>>> Corprica lifestyle where you slave all day to pay off debt.
>>>
>>
>> If you look at the US natal chart, you can understand why the US government 
>> is always waging wars within and without its borders.  Some of the wars are 
>> justified, like that during World War II.  One can argue that the Afghan War 
>> was justified due to Osama bin Laden's attack of New York.  But the war 
>> didn't have to last this long.  Bin Laden is dead and the US should call the 
>> troops home now.
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] RFK's Son Arrested

[John]

He apparently tried to take his baby out for fresh air against the wishes of 
the maternity nurses on duty.  The nurses actually have a point.  My younger 
brother died after childbirth due to pneumonia from overexposure to the air 
outside.

[FairfieldLife] Re: RFK's Son Arrested

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> He apparently tried to take his baby out for fresh air against the wishes of 
> the maternity nurses on duty.  The nurses actually have a point.  My younger 
> brother died after childbirth due to pneumonia from overexposure to the air 
> outside.
>
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/rfks-son-arrested-over-clash-maternity-nurses-190355640--abc-news.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you beat a chimp?

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJAH4ZJBiN8
>

Try it yourself:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/charlesartbr/monkey-memory

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
> I had some deep talks with my cousin when he came out and it was the
same for him. He was deeply attracted to masculinity and femininity in
men turned him off. He always had super hunk boyfriends and no one would
guess either of them were gay by the standard stereotypes.


Okay.  I live and work in the gay part of town.  Where I work, in
particular, is populated by many gay bars.  On ocassion I notice
hundreds of gay bikers converging for one or other special event.  They
look like any other biker group.  From a distance, I cannot perceive any
difference between them and say, Hell Angels.  But I have always assumed
that gay men are effeminate in some way.  And that in a relationship,
one tended to be more dominant, (masculine), and one, more passive,
(feminine).  But in both cases there would be some feminine qualities.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Someday the human race will evolve enough morally and will only
> > > have sex in the context of marriage and for children, that day
> > > has not come yet but it will usher in greater happiness for the
> > > human family.
> >
> > So infertile couples will not have sex, nor will couples in
> > which the woman is past childbearing age. Right, BillyG?
>
> Right! And we will install cameras in everybody's bedrooms.
>
I guess you can't bring yourself to answer the question.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[curtisdeltablues]

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> > I had some deep talks with my cousin when he came out and it was the
> same for him. He was deeply attracted to masculinity and femininity in
> men turned him off. He always had super hunk boyfriends and no one would
> guess either of them were gay by the standard stereotypes.
> 
> 
> Okay.  I live and work in the gay part of town.  Where I work, in
> particular, is populated by many gay bars.  On ocassion I notice
> hundreds of gay bikers converging for one or other special event.  They
> look like any other biker group.  From a distance, I cannot perceive any
> difference between them and say, Hell Angels.  But I have always assumed
> that gay men are effeminate in some way.  And that in a relationship,
> one tended to be more dominant, (masculine), and one, more passive,
> (feminine).  But in both cases there would be some feminine qualities.>

I think we all have some mix of masculine and feminine, but I haven't noticed 
that gay men who are not presenting as effeminate have any more of it than I 
do.  Some gay dudes are just as idiotic in seeking superficial sexual conquests 
as any hetero one night stand loving dude.  But my cousin is the kind of guy 
who wanted a deep meaningful relationship and he has pulled it off as 
successfully as any of my straight friends.  And they both seem just like any 
other metrosexual dudes I know.  They take care of themselves, but are all men 
in how they present.  Which makes sense because they are attracted to maleness 
the way I am to femininity. 

But even so I don't want some girly girl who can't get splashed by a little 
bracing pond water when we are out in kayaks.  I am not a fan of the long fake 
fingernails high maintenance type chick, so I guess everyone has their 
standards for the masculine feminine mix.

I also know some gay couples where there is a masculine feminine polarity in 
play and sometimes to a comic extreme!

I believe gay people have all the variations of attraction and types that 
strait couples do.  But we probably don't know how they will present themselves 
after decades of living in an accepting society.  So far they have been 
somewhat shaped by survival, which at the primary school level is still brutal.
 





>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[Bhairitu]

On 02/26/2012 10:29 AM, wgm4u wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
> "curtisdeltablues"  wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>>
>>> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they 
>>> made that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or 
>>> previous ones, it's that simple.
>> I always wonder when I hear this argument if it is in fact a revelation that 
>> the writer made an active choice on their sexual orientation. I figure you 
>> are probably not gay so I am not going there. But I am curious about this 
>> concept of choice because my sexuality did not emerge with any element of 
>> that.  The "magic" was held by the girls for me.  And for my gay cousin it 
>> was in boys for him at the same early age.  Ignoring the past life choices 
>> angle which is too far fetched to address, sexual attraction is not a 
>> choice, it is a much deeper urge.
>>
>> Was it a choice for you?
> No, generally we're hardwired to be attracted to the 'opposite' sex,(in order 
> to propagate the race) though that innate urge is *malleable* and therefor 
> subject to behavior and freewill, IMO.

Are you aware of research into what makes people homosexual?.  This was 
quite a topic about 10 years ago and the gay community in the Bay Area 
supported a research project at Berkeley on this subject.  One theory 
with gay women is that they are supposed be born a boy but they never 
get the estrogen bath.  I don't know of any inverse theory ever 
developed for males.  So no I wouldn't say that people are exactly 
"hardwired" to be attracted to the opposite sex.

Frankly I could give a damn about anyone's sexual preference.  That's 
their business.  Perhaps some gay guys thought Billy was really cute and 
hit on him hence his homophobia.
If it is just about religious beliefs we know which garbage can to put 
that in. :-D

> Someday the human race will evolve enough morally and will only have sex in 
> the context of marriage and for children, that day has not come yet but it 
> will usher in greater happiness for the human family.

And someday the human race will evolve to the point where they drink 
only when thirsty and eat only when hungry.  We aren't doing too good at 
that either.  Sex is an urge which is pretty hard to ignore.  If you are 
unhealthy though it may not occur.  In ayurveda lack of sex drive is a 
symptom of a vata imbalance.

Sidenote: I find interesting this topic is getting so much traction on 
FFL.  Raunchy could have borrowed the title from Trey Parker. :-D

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Baby is aborted every 26 seconds.

[Bhairitu]

On 02/25/2012 02:58 PM, wgm4u wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 02/25/2012 11:04 AM, wgm4u wrote:
>>> The clock is ticking . . .
>>>
>>> Think about this:
>>> One baby is aborted every
>>>
>>> 26 seconds
>>> 137 every hour
>>> 3,304 every day
>>> 23,196 every week
>>> 100,516 every month
>>> 1.206,192 every year
>>>
>>> in the United States alone.
>> Need more contraception then or make it easier to get.  You do
>> understand that the Pro-Choice movement is not about being pro-abortion?
> And we wonder why Western Civilization is vanishing, sad, sad, sad.

It is?  And here I thought we had a population explosion problem.

[FairfieldLife] Indian Cinema on YouTube Movies

[Bhairitu]

Up for some "chat" (not the verbal kind but the Indian snack) and a 
movie?  I was just looking through the amazing number of "free" Indian 
films on YouTube Movies.  These are not in the usual YouTube section but 
if you go to YouTube and select Movies instead of Browse.  If you 
haven't looked there before there are all kinds of films and some are 
free.  You can select Indian Cinema and get a large listing of films 
mostly free.  There are a few classics but most are recent.  There are 
films like the Ramayana as well as comedies and horror films.  I started 
buying used copies of Indian films on DVD at the local Indian grocers 
over a decade ago to aid my learning Hindi.  Many of these are hilarious 
even if a drama because they can be so tacky in their production 
values.  Some Indian actors are very good and some of the comedy is very 
good.

"Hyberdad Blues" is a 1998 film made by a young Indian engineer who 
worked in Silicon Valley but wanted to be a film maker so returned to 
India and made this semi-autobiographical movie in English (no girls 
dancing around trees either).  He went on to do some other films.

Why so many free?  I suspect many of the producers have made their money 
back and know by now that many Indians have pirated the movie any way so 
pick up a little chump change by monetizing the movie on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/movies/indian-cinema?feature=mv_c

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[martyboi]

Your prejudice knows no bounds. 


http://www.galva108.org/Tritiya_prakriti.html

According to the Vedic Literature there are three genders. One of which was 
designed -created by God - to prefer same gender relations.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Last month Mormons baptized the deceased parents of Nazi-hunter Simon 
> > Wiesenthal. Now they're sorry.
> > http://www.newser.com/story/139725/mormons-baptised-parents-of-nazi-hunter-wiesenthal.html
> > 
> > As you click on the "Choose-a-Mormon" button, contemplate a image of 12 
> > oxen pissing in the Salt Lake baptismal font.
> > http://www.utlm.org/images/twelveoxen_color.jpg
> 
> 
> God did not create 'gay', (nor did nature), actually there is no such thing 
> as 'gay'. I've hear homosexuals in the media use the excuse that they were 
> just, "created that way", they weren't created that way, they made themselves 
> that way through the many incarnations on earth through the use of free will, 
> that's why they're 'gay'!!! Please don't blame nature or God for this useless 
> behavior.
> 
> Men and Men, and Woman and Woman can love each other, they can Hugh and even 
> kiss, but why do they have to have to have sexual relations?
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[feste37]

That's a good scholarly source you've unearthed there. I can well believe that 
British 19th century scholars obscured the truth in their translations. And I'm 
afraid that our Judeo-Christian scriptures seem crude and inadequate on this 
matter. The Indians appear to have got it right and dealt with it with 
compassion, understanding, and wisdom. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi"  wrote:
>
> Your prejudice knows no bounds. 
> 
> 
> http://www.galva108.org/Tritiya_prakriti.html
> 
> According to the Vedic Literature there are three genders. One of which was 
> designed -created by God - to prefer same gender relations.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Last month Mormons baptized the deceased parents of Nazi-hunter Simon 
> > > Wiesenthal. Now they're sorry.
> > > http://www.newser.com/story/139725/mormons-baptised-parents-of-nazi-hunter-wiesenthal.html
> > > 
> > > As you click on the "Choose-a-Mormon" button, contemplate a image of 12 
> > > oxen pissing in the Salt Lake baptismal font.
> > > http://www.utlm.org/images/twelveoxen_color.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > God did not create 'gay', (nor did nature), actually there is no such thing 
> > as 'gay'. I've hear homosexuals in the media use the excuse that they were 
> > just, "created that way", they weren't created that way, they made 
> > themselves that way through the many incarnations on earth through the use 
> > of free will, that's why they're 'gay'!!! Please don't blame nature or God 
> > for this useless behavior.
> > 
> > Men and Men, and Woman and Woman can love each other, they can Hugh and 
> > even kiss, but why do they have to have to have sexual relations?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

[authfriend]

I'll reply to the rest later, but I want to pull this
part out and put it in its own post because it's so
irrational, paranoid, out of control.

Curtis, if you really believe what you wrote about me
that I quote below, you have some major mental 
problems you need to deal with.

And if you don't believe it but are just making it up
to "get" me...you have some major mental problems you
need to deal with.

I mean, talk about attempted mind-reading!

Plus which, I didn't inject Robin into the discussion,
you did. If anyone was trying to make him a "pawn" in
a personal battle, it was you.

This isn't just your usual orneriness and casual
disingenuity in debate. This is the very, very, dark
side of Curtis coming out. This is *disturbed*. It's
the worst I've ever seen from you, far worse than even
in your rants on alt.m.t.

Something has badly broken inside you, Curtis.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:

> Your indelicate spin on what I was suggesting reveals that
> you don't really give a shit about the guy.  You are a battler
> here and you will toss him into the fire to make me look bad
> of you have to.  It is disgusting.  The point I made was a
> valid one concerning his interpretation of his experiences
> after Arosa.  He is clinging onto a model that I believe is
> not serving him.  I sincerely believe that and I was offering
> that perspective to him because I knew him so well.  You are
> using him as a pawn in battling me.  Your limited emotional 
> intelligence has once again put you in a position to hurt the 
> people you claim to be standing up for.  You are not gunna get
> my point because you only see its usefulness in your battle.
> 
> And you pulled the same thing with the other R and IMO are one
> of the reasons he spun out of control.  You enabled a fantasy
> for a person whose ability to distinguish fantasy and reality
> were impaired.  
>
> Because he was a pawn in your game here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Indian Cinema on YouTube Movies

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> "Hyberdad Blues" is a 1998 film made by a young Indian engineer who
> worked in Silicon Valley but wanted to be a film maker so returned to
> India and made this semi-autobiographical movie in English (no girls
> dancing around trees either). He went on to do some other films.


I watched that.  Thanks for recommendation.  What I enjoy is seeing the
different aspects of Indian culture.

[FairfieldLife] Re: All Dead Mormons are Now Gay

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi"  wrote:
>
> Your prejudice knows no bounds. 
> 
> 
> http://www.galva108.org/Tritiya_prakriti.html
> 
> According to the Vedic Literature there are three genders. One of which was 
> designed -created by God - to prefer same gender relations.
 
ISKCON's view on homosexuality is posted below:

Hare Krishna movement and sexual orientation
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  (Redirected from Hare Krishna and Homosexuality)

Hare Krishna views of homosexuality, and especially the view of the 
International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) towards LGBT issues, 
are generally typical of most fundamentalist religious movements. Nevertheless, 
same-sex relations and gender variance have been represented within Hinduism 
from Vedic times through to the present day, in rituals, law books, mythical 
narratives, commentaries, paintings, and sculpture. The extent to which these 
representations embrace or reject homosexuality has been disputed within the 
religion as well as outside of it.

The Hare Krishna movement, as a distinct Hindu sect, and especially ISKCON, 
generally view all sex and sexuality (even heterosexual sex within the context 
of marriage) as being "illicit" unless it is done with the intention of 
bringing Krishna Conscious children into the world.[1] The focus of one's life 
is supposed to be geared towards spirituality and not sexuality. Nevertheless, 
there have been a number of LGBT people involved in the Hare Krishna movement 
over the years.

snip

[FairfieldLife] Bill Maher Interviews a Rabbi

[John]

He doesn't seem to show respect for the rabbi.  And, he walks away in disgust 
in the end.  But the clip has humor in it, strange as it may seem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=Xj6T9-8k8Do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[Emily Reyn]

O.K.  Yes, I've been at Wintergrass all weekend.  Geezus fucking christ, man. 
You wouldn't believe.  I'll post some music later.  But this is right up your 
ally man, seriously.  At least here in Bellevue, WA.  It's all about the youth. 
 The jams are intense..Greensky Bluegrass followed the Wilders last 
night...spiritual man, seriously spiritual...and it went on for at least 45 
minutes -  one set.  The CEO guy of the Hyatt here is  a bluegrass fan and 
opens the whole hotel up for three days. Unbelievable.  Other wordly. Country, 
honky tonk, traditional bluegrass, everything...yes, we'd love your blues up 
here.  Plug in man, it's the experience of a lifetime.  Aren't I lucky?  And, 
I'm staying in a 5 star hotel which makes it better...:)  



 From: curtisdeltablues 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:00 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
 

  
Emily,

Great that you are immersed in live music!  Especially acoustic style.  
Sometimes I share a stage with bluegrass guys at a "roots" festival but usually 
bluegrass people don't want straight up blues at their festivals.  They were 
closer in the early 1900's but have split further apart since. I played in a 
bluegrass band in college. There is more than a little white/black split now 
that was not as pronounced at the turn of the century.  Banjo was originally a 
black instrument after all, so obviously there was more mixing in the 
beginning. 

They are dealing with the same subjects of life from different cultures, I 
don't believe one has a higher ground of positivity. Bluegrass just hides their 
same blues topics in bouncy music derived from Scottish and Irish jig music 
instead of the work song beat behind the blues.  Same topics, and if anything 
bluegrass and folk gets even darker behind those big multi-note run smiles. You 
might like Piedmont style blues if you like your life lesson wrapped in a more 
bouncy beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kjUW5T_qE&feature=related

Some Piedmont style is influenced by ragtime which adds loads more of what I 
term "diddily-dee" into the music.

I prefer the less busy Delta style but play some of this style for a contrast.

My ear tires of the busyness of bluegrass after a song or two despite my 
appreciation of its acoustic mastery. But just like with blues I am a pre 
1940's guy.  After the 40's they started that rolling Scruggs style picking on 
their African invented banjos and I don't feel it that way.  I like clawhammer 
old time banjo if I am going to lend my ears to that instrument. 

For me bluegrass is a girl who shoves you from behind and when you turn around 
she has skittered off and is giggling with her friends while pointing to you to 
show you that she "likes" likes you.

Blues is a chick who walks slowly across the dance floor toward me and I rise 
to meet her halfway. When I take her by the hands she steps inside my arms so 
our hips touch, first looking down and then slowly turning her face up toward 
mine as if we are about to kiss.  Then we start moving together, working out 
all the technical details vertically that will come in handy when the party 
moves to the horizontal. I hear the nonstop chattering of the busy little 
bluegrass girl on the edges of the dance floor fade as I inhale the mixture of 
sweat and drugstore perfume that is all woman.

Have fun being music saturated!  What a blast no matter what style floats your 
boat. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Damn, Curtis...I've been at the Wintergrass Festival (bluegrass and 
> etc,..) here in Bellevue for the last two days. Â You would be perfect 
> for this venue. Â Some serious greats are here. Â I mean seriously spiritual 
> greats. Â  The jams are taking over the entire Hyatt. Â Look it up. Â I'll 
> get back to you..the music here is incredible. Â Bluegrass is the redifined 
> bluesthe positive spin. Â  Â 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: curtisdeltablues 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis
> 
> 
> Â 
> Thanks for the high five Emily and I appreciate that you read any of my 
> drivel here.  I checked out that guy and enjoyed reading them. 
> 
> This is the guy I read when I need a reality check on what great comedic 
> writing with a purpose looks like, Joel Achenbach:
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/post/science-everywhere/2012/02/18/gIQAtx7uLR_blog.html
> 
> This is just a random post I grabbed but he has been consistently cranking 
> out quality material for decades. He is just way smarter than I am.
> 
> But a man can dream!  Thanks for your kind words.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Curtis blues - you may also have the creative writing gift.  I think you 
> > could produce a rockin' commentary column - let's see - what could you call 
> > it? Ã