[FairfieldLife] The thing about obsession...
...is that people who are obsessed don't seem capable of recognizing that they're obsessed. Their own behavior goes completely over their heads, and they fail to see what almost everyone watching them sees...that they're caught up in an obsession. As an example, consider some stuck-in-his-head mental midget who gets a wild-hair-up-his-ass idea that God (yes, the same God who is on record as having smitten millions of innocent people because he was pissed off at them) became so affronted by the bombing of an obscure Christian monastery during WW2 that He withdrew His presence from the very Creation He had created, and basically told all its sentient creatures to fuck off, because He would never have anything to do with them again. OK, this is ludicrous, right? You would think that the first time said mental midget dared to say this out loud or in print he'd catch a clue from the way people reacted and realize that he was talking crazy, right? But nooo. Said mental midget goes on and on and on and on, trying to make other people agree with this insanity. In other words, he was obsessed with the weird stuff in his head, just because it was in *his* head. And, he was incapable of even realizing that he *was* obsessed. Crazy, right? Now imagine a lonely, 70-plus-year-old spinster who listens to this crap and not only doesn't challenge it, but develops an obsession of her own with the mental midget in question. Never having met him, she makes almost 1700 posts to or about him to an obscure Internet group that no one cares about, turning defending him and explaining what he really meant into something that similarly goes on and on and on and on. This crush on the mental midget in question gets so bad that she embarrasses herself thoroughly, resorting to lies and insults to defend him, and destroying whatever little credibility she had on the forum. And throughout all of this, it doesn't ever occur to her that she's obsessed. She would probably bristle at the idea and write dozens of stinging replies pointing out how absurd the idea is. Come to think of it, she probably will...
[FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
He said again and again that his mission was to bring the teaching of Guru Dev to the whole world. And that's what he did. A unique example of how a student can fulfill the wishes of his Master and help push a planet into a new direction in doing so.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
and exactly what does that mean given the fact that the caste system was a bullshit deal set up by the brahmins to ensure their continued domination in their society? On Wed, 2/12/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:44 AM Lawson, Compared to the general American public, TMers can be considered as brahmins, or twice born, since all of us have gone through the initiation to the meditation tradition of Gurudev. But there are those TMers who have relinquished this title by words and actions. Also, by reason, those who have earned to become a brahmin should be considered as such. But not all persons born to the brahmin caste are qualified to be considered as one if they don't act accordingly. IMO, that's where the present caste system in India has failed to recognize.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote: Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. I've read comments from famous gurus/spiritual leaders in India who knew Gurudev and then heard Maharishi speak, and they basiclly said he did a good job of channeling his guru. And really, that is all he ever claimed he was doing for most of the history of the TM organization. He made it clear where he changed things: he chose to use householder mantras, and he simplified things as much as he possibly could with respect to teaching TM, and may have simplified the practice itself. But he never explained in detail the changes or what Gurudev taught him exactly. But, my friend Anoop Chandola had a chance to meet the successor to Gurudev named in the will, and asked the question: What about this Maharishi who is with the Beatles? Is he legitimate? The answer was: Let me put it this way: he would be my first as my successor, but they won't allow it due to the caste laws. So... whatever Maharishi said about such things, it was probably similar to what Gurudev said. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. fairfieldl...@yahoogoups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking things into paragraphs. Now, I guess Judy did clue me into one aspect of his writing, that is, his 12,000 word posts were written for posterity, if I understand it correctly. As I understand it, Robin decided to venture onto FFL as a result of an invitation (from Rick?) and as an exercise, a sort of meta therapeutic venturing forth in the form of this internet forum. I don't think he had really investigated this type of format before other than for a few months on the alt. blahdadeblah (can't remember the name) forum. Judy will know all this history. But I don't think he wrote what he did at FFL for posterity. This was pretty much an exercise for his own benefit. At least that is how I remember him talking about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up his wall of words as I felt that people might be interested in what he had to say. To me a wall of words shows worse than misspellings that the writer is ignorant or poorly educated. It's not necessarily an education thang. Some people are simply not aware of the short attention spans of Internet- and soundbyte-impaired readers these days. They find it almost impossible to read a Wall Of Words. Therefore, if you wish to communicate, you use shorter paragraphs. However, according to my friend the psychiatrist who is an expert on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, writing in Wall Of Words style -- especially when you see it happening in someone who has been well educated -- is one of the key markers they look for when diagnosing NPD. Wall Of Words writers don't CARE if they're communicating, and neither do NPD writers. Then at one point he went off on one of my posts and finished by saying now tell me you love me. I thought wha...? Rather than berate such cult leader like behavior I treated it like a joke and told him how funny he was. That seemed to throw him off his game. :-D I feel sorry for someone who can't shed the need to feel important. There may indeed be no cure for someone with severe NPD. When someone dares order me around in person I just stare at them. That really fucks them up. We're both lucky in having avoided the Boss Syndrome for much of our lives. There is a certain freedom in being a consultant that helps when dealing with life's Petty Tyrants. My friend the shrink was familiar with the works of Carlos Castaneda, and he referred to Carlos' descriptions of the Petty Tyrant often when teaching me about NPD. On 02/11/2014 12:09 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'm glad I went back to check out the remaining episodes of season one of The Following on Netflix. I had bailed after episode three because it seemed to formulaic. Perhaps Bacon was thinking that too as the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness to Maharishi that you never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking things into paragraphs. Now, I guess Judy did clue me into one aspect of his writing, that is, his 12,000 word posts were written for posterity, if I understand it correctly. As I understand it, Robin decided to venture onto FFL as a result of an invitation (from Rick?) and as an exercise, a sort of meta therapeutic venturing forth in the form of this internet forum. I don't think he had really investigated this type of format before other than for a few months on the alt. blahdadeblah (can't remember the name) forum. Judy will know all this history. But I don't think he wrote what he did at FFL for posterity. This was pretty much an exercise for his own benefit. At least that is how I remember him talking about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up his wall of words as I felt that people might be interested in what he had to say. To me a wall of words shows worse than misspellings that the writer is ignorant or poorly educated. It's not necessarily an education thang. Some people are simply not aware of the short attention spans of Internet- and soundbyte-impaired readers these days. They find it almost impossible to read a Wall Of Words. Therefore, if you wish to communicate, you use shorter paragraphs. However, according to my friend the psychiatrist who is an expert on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, writing in Wall Of Words style -- especially when you see it happening in someone who has been well educated -- is one of the key markers they look for when diagnosing NPD. Wall Of Words writers don't CARE if they're communicating, and neither do NPD writers. Then at one point he went off on one of my posts and finished by saying now tell me you love me. I thought wha...? Rather than berate such cult leader like behavior I treated it like a joke and told him how funny he was. That seemed to throw him off his game. :-D I feel sorry for someone who can't shed the need to feel important. There may indeed be no cure for someone with severe NPD. When someone dares order me around in person I just stare at them. That really fucks them up. We're both lucky in having avoided the Boss Syndrome for much of our lives. There is a certain freedom in being a consultant that helps when dealing with life's Petty Tyrants. My friend the shrink was familiar with the works of Carlos Castaneda, and he referred to Carlos' descriptions of the Petty Tyrant often when teaching me about NPD. On 02/11/2014 12:09 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'm glad I went back to check out the remaining episodes of season one of The Following on Netflix. I had bailed after episode three because it seemed to
Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred
Richard, just to set the record straight, I didn't write that sentence about enlightenment. Judy did. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:22 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote: It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's relationship to God. In the Advaita Vedanta which Robin practiced it is the ego that is the delusion, but this delusion was not caused by God, but by Maya through prakriti and the gunas born of nature. When the ego is subsumed there is a lifting of the veil, an awakening from the dream of illusion. This follows the typology of the seven states of consciousness purported by MMY. So, it may have been difficult at times for Robin to adopt the theistic view after having immersed himself in non-theistic non-dualism. According to Robin, at the time of his enlightenment he experienced all these boundaries of perception dissolving.
Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred
Richard, again setting the record straight: I did not write that sentence about enlightenment. Judy did. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:13 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real, genuine state of enlightenment. All religious systems seem to come from the East, except Mormonism, which seems to have sprung from the mind of Moroni. But, the enlightenment tradition in India was founded by the historical Buddha. The notion of enlightenment in Yoga seems to be restricted to South Asia. According to Mircea Eliade, the Ascetic methods and techniques of ecstasy are documented among the other Indo-European peoples, to say nothing of the other peoples of Asia, whereas Yoga is to be found only in India and in cultures influenced by Indian spirituality. Reference: 'Myths and Symbols in India Art and Civilization' by Heinrich Zimmer Edited by Joseph Campbell Bolingen Series, Princeton U.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't anything Robin wanted to set straight. You made that up. And he never wrote a single post anywhere near as long as 12,000 words. What was 12,000 words, in this case, was the total of the four posts he linked to (I'm taking Barry's word for this, which may be foolish on my part) in his last post, which was only 313 words. Your response is, once again, a bunch of non sequiturs. I'm the only person to whom what made sense? And your next-to-last sentence makes no sense at all. Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking things into paragraphs. Now, I guess Judy did clue me into one aspect of his writing, that is, his 12,000 word posts were written for posterity, if I understand it correctly. As I understand it, Robin decided to venture onto FFL as a result of an invitation (from Rick?) and as an exercise, a sort of meta therapeutic venturing forth in the form of this internet forum. I don't think he had really investigated this type of format before other than for a few months on the alt. blahdadeblah (can't remember the name) forum. Judy will know all this history. But I don't think he wrote what he did at FFL for posterity. This was pretty much an exercise for his own benefit. At least that is how I remember him talking about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up his wall of words as I felt that people might be interested in what he had to say. To me a wall of words shows worse than misspellings that the writer is ignorant or poorly educated. It's not necessarily an education thang. Some people are simply not aware of the short attention spans of Internet- and soundbyte-impaired readers these days. They find it almost impossible to read a Wall Of Words. Therefore, if you wish to communicate, you use shorter paragraphs. However, according to my friend the psychiatrist who is an expert on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, writing in Wall Of Words style -- especially when you see it happening in someone who has been well educated -- is one of the key markers they look for when diagnosing NPD. Wall Of Words writers don't CARE if they're communicating, and neither do NPD writers. Then at one point he went off on one of my posts and finished by saying now tell me you love me. I thought wha...? Rather than berate such cult leader like behavior I treated it like a joke and told him how funny he was. That seemed to throw him off his game. :-D I feel sorry for someone who can't shed the need to feel important. There may indeed be no cure for
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Is Geoffrey still National Leader over there? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:14 PM Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
I can't believe that anyone, even Doug Henning could put this out there and expect anyone to believe it. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F5pR7Tj2qY
[FairfieldLife] RE: The thing about obsession...
The irony of Barry writing about people who are purportedly obsessed but don't realize it won't be lost on anyone here after his most recent spate of posts obsessing on--and lying about--Robin (and Ann and me). It's a lie that Robin tried to get people to agree with him about the Monte Cassino deal. He said several times he didn't expect anyone to agree, and that he knew it sounded nuts. Also, as Barry knows, I never told any lies to or about Robin (or to or about anyone else, for that matter). I don't need to...uh...adjust reality the way Barry does. As to Robin's being a mental midget, that's pretty damn funny considering how much smarter Robin is than Barry. Barry doesn't have the intellect to even read most of Robin's posts. ...is that people who are obsessed don't seem capable of recognizing that they're obsessed. Their own behavior goes completely over their heads, and they fail to see what almost everyone watching them sees...that they're caught up in an obsession. As an example, consider some stuck-in-his-head mental midget who gets a wild-hair-up-his-ass idea that God (yes, the same God who is on record as having smitten millions of innocent people because he was pissed off at them) became so affronted by the bombing of an obscure Christian monastery during WW2 that He withdrew His presence from the very Creation He had created, and basically told all its sentient creatures to fuck off, because He would never have anything to do with them again. OK, this is ludicrous, right? You would think that the first time said mental midget dared to say this out loud or in print he'd catch a clue from the way people reacted and realize that he was talking crazy, right? But nooo. Said mental midget goes on and on and on and on, trying to make other people agree with this insanity. In other words, he was obsessed with the weird stuff in his head, just because it was in *his* head. And, he was incapable of even realizing that he *was* obsessed. Crazy, right? Now imagine a lonely, 70-plus-year-old spinster who listens to this crap and not only doesn't challenge it, but develops an obsession of her own with the mental midget in question. Never having met him, she makes almost 1700 posts to or about him to an obscure Internet group that no one cares about, turning defending him and explaining what he really meant into something that similarly goes on and on and on and on. This crush on the mental midget in question gets so bad that she embarrasses herself thoroughly, resorting to lies and insults to defend him, and destroying whatever little credibility she had on the forum. And throughout all of this, it doesn't ever occur to her that she's obsessed. She would probably bristle at the idea and write dozens of stinging replies pointing out how absurd the idea is. Come to think of it, she probably will...
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Wow, Barry. Is this the best you can do? Pretty slim pickings given how many posts I've written about your own lies and misrepresentations. Here are the two sentences from your post I was remembering when I said you'd called Robin's last post a 12,000-word rant: Nowhere is this to be seen more definitively than in his Last Tantrum, the 13,000+ word megalomaniacal post that he *demanded* everyone read to be worthy of interacting with him further. He *didn't like it* that Curtis didn't respond to the 12,000-word 'four posts' in which he ranted obsessively about Curtis And Everything That Was Wrong With Him. So I conflated the two sentences. Obviously it wasn't a lie. What is a lie is the first quoted sentence above, as I've already pointed out. Robin didn't demand anything in his last post. Xeno might want to check it out since he seems to be into verifying my posts: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/340466 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/340466 And Stevie wasn't quoting me about the 12,000 number. His was the first post of the three, not the third, and I was quoting him. Question is, where did your 13,000+ words come from? Robin's last post was 313 words, plus the four links. He never wrote a 13,000+-word post, or a 12,000-word post, for that matter. And as I've also pointed out, in the four posts he linked to, many of the words were Curtis's. So you didn't write the exact phrase 12,000-word rant. BFD, buddy, especially considering all the actual lies you've been telling. It's also a lie that I lie all the time. I don't lie at all. If you disagree, cite some of the lies. Should be easy if I lie all the time. And finally, it's a lie that you don't read my posts, obviously. Oh, I forgot: You lied that I was up at 2:00 a.m. In fact, my post is time-stamped 1:45. Not a huge deal, but symptomatic of how reality is just never quite good enough for you. Finally, speaking of obsessions, what does one call your exercise in word-counting Robin's posts and then going on to write a long post full of lies about them? Was this fun for you, Barry? Do you enjoy lying and then being caught? Just for fun, since it appears that she's up at 2:00 AM again obsessing: Speaking of poor memories, Barry never used the phrase 12,000-word rant. That's a lie. The only person who has used that phrase, according to the Yahoo Search engine, is Judy Stein, in three separate posts today. Opsie. :-) :-) :-) Actually, the third post was by Steve, quoting Judy Stein's lie. In case no one has noticed, I'm just running the Steinster's insane nitpick number on HER. The crazy part is not that she lied -- she does that all the time -- the crazy part is that she's still obsessing about the nonentity named Robin Carlsen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
No, he quit the movement after someone else was offered the position of raja. As top dog for so long it must have been galling but he wasn't the most dynamic leader and erm, divided opinion, shall we say. I think the raja does the job of national leader instead who could be more important than the guy with the crown? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Is Geoffrey still National Leader over there? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:14 PM Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase
I wouldn't count on employers hiring many more people with the uncertainty of the ACA. The CBO has estimated about 2.5 million job loss and will probably leave an estimated 31 million uninsured. A new 29-30 hr work week.This, being tauted as the new, desirable normal. Single mothers will *finally* be able to quit a job without fear of losing their healthcare for their children, more people being *freed* of those undesirable jobs and able to stay home and cook meals at home and raise their children. Ah yes, they'll have government subsidized healthcare but no jobs, More welfare state, more debt, more borrowing, more *quantitative easing*, more government dependency, more regulation, less freedom. I didn't like the TM movement because somebody was always telling me what I *should or shouldn't do*. Now the federal government is becoming the same way, LOL! BTW I don't see the economy getting any better otherwise why would a political party that created this mess be screaming about *income inequality*? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:15 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, The increase of jobs is also dependent on the Federal Reserve Board's Quantitative Easing (QE) policy. If the interest rates remain low, there's a good chance that the employers will borrow more money to increase their sales. As such, they also will hire more people to provide services to their customers. If the economy gets better, the Fed should reduce its purchases of government bonds to prevent the rise of inflation. So far, the balancing act appears to be working.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Damn! I never would have thought Geoff would have quit the Movement, wonder if he still meditates with TM? Which brings up another question. I thought all one had to do to be a raja was pay a million bucks to the Big M and you were a raja - what are or were the criteria for becoming a raja? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 2:14 PM No, he quit the movement after someone else was offered the position of raja. As top dog for so long it must have been galling but he wasn't the most dynamic leader and erm, divided opinion, shall we say.I think the raja does the job of national leader instead who could be more important than the guy with the crown? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Is Geoffrey still National Leader over there? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:14 PM Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
and what did Geoff do that divided opinion, I wonder? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 2:14 PM No, he quit the movement after someone else was offered the position of raja. As top dog for so long it must have been galling but he wasn't the most dynamic leader and erm, divided opinion, shall we say.I think the raja does the job of national leader instead who could be more important than the guy with the crown? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Is Geoffrey still National Leader over there? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:14 PM Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up.
[FairfieldLife] Questions on Raja Training
OK, I was under the impression that to become a raja, one only had to pay the dear departed guru a million dollars, but some folks have said the million dollar courses began before the raja training courses. Does anyone know the difference? What were the perks of doing the million dollar courses, what were they for and what was promised the participants? Do the past million dollar course participants have raja status? Ans what do the raja courses consist of? Are they also a million dollars?
Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase
Mike, there isn't going to be any job loss. If someone quits their job, the job doesn't go away, It'll just go to somebody else. I wouldn't count on employers hiring many more people with the uncertainty of the ACA. The CBO has estimated about 2.5 million job loss and will probably leave an estimated 31 million uninsured. A new 29-30 hr work week.This, being tauted as the new, desirable normal. Single mothers will *finally* be able to quit a job without fear of losing their healthcare for their children, more people being *freed* of those undesirable jobs and able to stay home and cook meals at home and raise their children. Ah yes, they'll have government subsidized healthcare but no jobs, More welfare state, more debt, more borrowing, more *quantitative easing*, more government dependency, more regulation, less freedom. I didn't like the TM movement because somebody was always telling me what I *should or shouldn't do*. Now the federal government is becoming the same way, LOL! BTW I don't see the economy getting any better otherwise why would a political party that created this mess be screaming about *income inequality*? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:15 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Mike, The increase of jobs is also dependent on the Federal Reserve Board's Quantitative Easing (QE) policy. If the interest rates remain low, there's a good chance that the employers will borrow more money to increase their sales. As such, they also will hire more people to provide services to their customers. If the economy gets better, the Fed should reduce its purchases of government bonds to prevent the rise of inflation. So far, the balancing act appears to be working.
[FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up. I think for many people back in the late 60's, 70's and part of the 80's it was a decent way for them to focus their otherwise unfocused energies. There were and still are much worse ways to spend your time than promoting the TM practice and Movement. I can't speak for now as I have been basically divorced from anything TM since the early 80's but I remember lots of wonderful, older students attending MIU who felt it was a new lease on life for them, a new direction. Like I said, I regret nothing about having attended that school or having spent 16 years meditating. It can all be filed under how the rest of life proceeds - I learned some stuff, I figured other stuff out and I moved on carrying with me the things that I thought might serve me best for the future.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The thing about obsession...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: ...is that people who are obsessed don't seem capable of recognizing that they're obsessed. And this would explain why you are writing another post about Judy and about Robin? Their own behavior goes completely over their heads, and they fail to see what almost everyone watching them sees...that they're caught up in an obsession. See my comment above. As an example, consider some stuck-in-his-head mental midget who gets a wild-hair-up-his-ass idea that God (yes, the same God who is on record as having smitten millions of innocent people because he was pissed off at them) became so affronted by the bombing of an obscure Christian monastery during WW2 that He withdrew His presence from the very Creation He had created, and basically told all its sentient creatures to fuck off, because He would never have anything to do with them again. And imagine someone else thinking there was no creator, no God, no nuttin' beyond what they can perceive with their 5 senses. OK, this is ludicrous, right? I would say so. You would think that the first time said mental midget dared to say this out loud or in print he'd catch a clue from the way people reacted and realize that he was talking crazy, right? But nooo. Said mental midget goes on and on and on and on, trying to make other people agree with this insanity. In other words, he was obsessed with the weird stuff in his head, just because it was in *his* head. And, he was incapable of even realizing that he *was* obsessed. Crazy, right? You said it and are demonstrating it very well, Bawwy. This is fun, wouldn't you say? I mean look at you, perfectly embodying all of the crazy stuff you accuse others of. And the funniest part is... you don't even realize it!! Now that is, on one level, hilarious and on another worthy of eminent scholarly note. They're shaking their heads and pursing their lips as they read this, unable to believe their luck at finding a psychologically fascinating goldmine like yourself. Maybe at the end of the year they'll reveal themselves and all of the psychological findings they have amassed. They might bind a special edition just for you to take out to parties, to the coffee houses and bars so you can show people - just imagine! Now imagine a lonely, 70-plus-year-old spinster who listens to this crap and not only doesn't challenge it, but develops an obsession of her own with the mental midget in question. Never having met him, she makes almost 1700 posts to or about him to an obscure Internet group that no one cares about, turning defending him and explaining what he really meant into something that similarly goes on and on and on and on. This crush on the mental midget in question gets so bad that she embarrasses herself thoroughly, resorting to lies and insults to defend him, and destroying whatever little credibility she had on the forum. I'm trying to help you, Bawwy, so I'll just switch a few of the letters in the last paragraph you wrote here: And throughout all of this, it doesn't ever occur to him that he's obsessed. He would probably bristle at the idea and write dozens of stinging replies pointing out how absurd the idea is. Come to think of it, he probably will... Thanks again for this fun little opportunity to post to you. It always starts my day out with a chuckle.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Doug believed it himself so why not expect him to think others might believe it? Doug was just a magician who loved TM and MMY and the Movement. Who would really take him seriously on anything except creating a sense of wonder through his practice of magic as he used to like to say. He was a sweet little guy from Manitoba - so Canadian!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Yes, Geoff still does TM as far as I know, haven't had an update for a couple o' years. He's out earning a living now, running a company he set up but I don't know what it does. Ordinarily you just need to have a million bucks and the desire to be a raja but those who worked for the TMO don't usually have that sort of cash so someone donated it so that one of the TMO UK directors could do the training and wear the crown. Peter Warburton was chosen over GC and that was that. Never mind, I'm sure he's enlightened enough to brush it off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Damn! I never would have thought Geoff would have quit the Movement, wonder if he still meditates with TM? Which brings up another question. I thought all one had to do to be a raja was pay a million bucks to the Big M and you were a raja - what are or were the criteria for becoming a raja? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 2:14 PM No, he quit the movement after someone else was offered the position of raja. As top dog for so long it must have been galling but he wasn't the most dynamic leader and erm, divided opinion, shall we say.I think the raja does the job of national leader instead who could be more important than the guy with the crown? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Is Geoffrey still National Leader over there? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:14 PM Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
What did he do? Usual politics that seems to afflict the TMO, people hold grudges and make unpopular decisions. Not worth talking about really, just life. It's always tough at the top. Most people disliked his lecturing style though, he was be insanely boring and many thought he was a very poor choice as a leader but then he was Marshy's choice so that had to be rationalised, and some people thought that he'd been chosen to run things in order to make everyone stand up to him as a sort of evolutionary thing. God they really were all crazy! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: and what did Geoff do that divided opinion, I wonder? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 2:14 PM No, he quit the movement after someone else was offered the position of raja. As top dog for so long it must have been galling but he wasn't the most dynamic leader and erm, divided opinion, shall we say.I think the raja does the job of national leader instead who could be more important than the guy with the crown? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Is Geoffrey still National Leader over there? On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:14 PM Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and
Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase
Judy, you'll have to ask the Congressional Budget Office how they calculate *job Loss*, it's their wording. Perhaps a full time job , 40 hours a week, being cut to less than 30, is considered a lost job, from full time to part time. Also, businesses paring back so as to avoid regulation could be considered job loss. Example, a business has 60 full time employees. So they take 12 jobs and create 24 part time jobs to avoid the penalty, keeping them at 48 full time jobs and 24 part time jobs under 30 hrs. a week. Technically, that business wouldn't have to provide insurance for anybody at that point and could do so to be competitive or even under- cut a larger business that can't do that. However, my original point was two fold, there will be jobs lost and the spin is that it's not so bad because families will have more time together since some will be working less,whether they can afford it or not. Not the sign of a robust economy. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:33 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, there isn't going to be any job loss. If someone quits their job, the job doesn't go away, It'll just go to somebody else. I wouldn't count on employers hiring many more people with the uncertainty of the ACA. The CBOhas estimated about 2.5 million job loss and will probably leave an estimated 31 million uninsured. A new 29-30 hr work week.This, being tauted as the new, desirable normal. Single mothers will *finally* be able to quit a job without fear of losing their healthcarefor their children, more people being *freed* of those undesirable jobs and able to stay home and cook meals at home and raise their children. Ah yes, they'll have government subsidized healthcarebut no jobs, More welfarestate, more debt, more borrowing, more *quantitativeeasing*, more government dependency, more regulation, less freedom. I didn't like the TM movement because somebody was always telling me what I *should or shouldn't do*. Now the federal government is becoming the same way, LOL! BTW I don't see the economy getting any better otherwise why would a political party that created this mess be screaming about *income inequality*? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:15 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Mike, The increase of jobs is also dependent on the Federal Reserve Board's Quantitative Easing (QE) policy. If the interest rates remain low, there's a good chance that the employers will borrow more money to increase their sales. As such, they also will hire more people to provide services to their customers. If the economy gets better, the Fed should reduce its purchases of government bonds to prevent the rise of inflation. So far, the balancing act appears to be working.
[FairfieldLife] Westminster winner
Anybody see the winning dog at Westminster last night? Her name is Skye,a five year old Fox Terrier that is absolutely beautiful. And.. she gives kisses! Thought she was going to take everybody's make-up off on GMA this morning!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Yeah you're right. I met him at MIU one time - I was there for a course and my mother had threatened me with dire consequences if I didn't get his autograph for her. So I went up and stammeringly asked if he would - he was super nice about it and signed a poster of himself I bought for my mother so she was happy. We were waiting outside the flying hall and chatted a few minutes. He was a real nice man the few minutes I interacted with him. The way our minds believe things we want to believe is so crazy - a good example is the quote from David Sieveking on the Raja Emmanuel incident in Germany some years ago. The Raja was not speaking out of ignorance, according to Sieveking: He knows about Adolph Hitler. He knows about the Nazis. He definitely didn’t know how controversial his statements would be. He’s become very narrow-minded in his world-view that consists only of Maharishi's teachings. He was crowned by 'His Holiness Maharishi,' who is considered by true believers in the TM movement as godlike. He’s not a human being to them -- he can’t do wrong, he's perfect. When someone like the Maharishi crowns you as 'King of Germany' and tells you that you are now responsible for your country, you can easily lose connection with reality. Sieveking believes Emanuel’s poor choice of words was the result of having been immersed and isolated in the TM movement for 40 years: “This is the kind of autocratic system that could -- I say could -- also be used in a fascist way. If there is only one enlightened super leader who has all truth in him, then it leads to arrogance towards anyone else. This is the way they treat criticism; they are not able to have a dialogue. On Wed, 2/12/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 2:54 PM Doug believed it himself so why not expect him to think others might believe it? Doug was just a magician who loved TM and MMY and the Movement. Who would really take him seriously on anything except creating a sense of wonder through his practice of magic as he used to like to say. He was a sweet little guy from Manitoba - so Canadian!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!
Yeah, poor old Doug. Wonder what he thought of it all at the end? Maybe he knew they were conning money out of people using his name, maybe he was so brainwashed he approved but I doubt it, he seemed like a nice guy. He just got in with a bad crowd that's all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I can't believe that anyone, even Doug Henning could put this out there and expect anyone to believe it. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Shame that youtube doesn't have the original 1992 NLP broadcast, that one was bonkers with poor old Doug Henning jumping around and more smiley men in suits with rainbows all over the place. I operated the autocue for a couple of election specials, great fun, it's a shame they (and some of the other crazy no-hope UK parties) have quit politics. But Maggie Thatcher thought that frivolous parties like Monster Raving Loonies or the Giant Green Chicken party were cheapening politics and put the cost of the deposit up to drive them away. For me there was no better sight than Tory and Labour politicians having to stand next to people dressed like chickens or pantomime horses on election night while the votes are read out. Punctured a few pompous balloons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah I did watch the video, all the way through. I had forgotten about Geoffrey Clements - I remeber seeing him on tapes talking to M way back when I was have Evening Knowledge program at MIU. What struck me about this piece was it being written by someone who experienced it as a child - man, what a screwed up way to grow up! On Wed, 2/12/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:14 AM Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win and it was an amazing effort to get a political party together in just a couple of weeks, even if it did just mean giving an intro talk to people who aren't interested. Of course, after it turned out they weren't going to be leading the country the story changed to it being a good way of getting the word out. And it was, I was manning the phones after the last election the NLP fought and was highly dubious that any member of the public would ring and ask for more info, but ring they did and I spent ages explaining all the terms and beliefs to them. Being evangelical isn't really my thing though and I wasn't very good at it, I think you need to really believe something to be a good teacher and I never did think it was very credible. As I always say, you have to look at what this amazing coherence and nature support has done for the TMO to realise it isn't the best model for understanding society and human behaviour. I think it's a crock actually but there you are, we had fun while it lasted and I loved organising press conferences even if no one ever turned up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F5pR7Tj2qY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F5pR7Tj2qY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Westminster winner
Mike, I read a yahoo article about her this morning. She's quite a champion. Would love to see her jyotish chart (-: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody see the winning dog at Westminster last night? Her name is Skye,a five year old Fox Terrier that is absolutely beautiful. And.. she gives kisses! Thought she was going to take everybody's make-up off on GMA this morning!
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. - Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe you've responded to that question. Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still alive? (-: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. - Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe you've responded to that question. Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you...
Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase
Since 1994 the Bureau of Labor Standards has excluded the long term unemployed. If those are factored in, the unemployment rate in the United States is about 23%. The unemployment figures you hear on the news are the more restricted measures. U1: Percentage of labor force unemployed 15 weeks or longer. U2: Percentage of labor force who lost jobs or completed temporary work. U3: Official unemployment rate per the ILO definition occurs when people are without jobs and they have actively looked for work within the past four weeks. U4: U3 + 'discouraged workers', or those who have stopped looking for work because current economic conditions make them believe that no work is available for them. U5: U4 + other 'marginally attached workers', or 'loosely attached workers', or those who 'would like' and are able to work, but have not looked for work recently. U6: U5 + Part-time workers who want to work full-time, but cannot due to economic reasons (underemployment). U7: U6 + Long Term discouraged workers NO LONGER REPORTED The Official unemployment rate is U3 but note that when these measures were introduced in the 1990s, U5 was the officially reported rate. So the numbers we get on the news are basically even more spin on a rather dismal situation than used to be the case. Just before the current recession the civilian employment to population ratio in the United States was about 63%. It has been waffling at about 58-1/2% since the recession 'officially' ended. As for the effect of Obamacare who really knows? Wait and see.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 5 Tibetans!
Several years ago we were introduced to the Tibetan practice of Kum Nye by the lama Tarthang Tulku at his place in Sonoma, CA. It sounds like the Five Rites are brief descriptions of hath yoga practices that involve breathing and posture asanas and the chakras (spinning wheels). Hatha Yoga as you probably already know is connected to the yogi Matsyendranth, an early exponent of Kundalini Yoga. The Five Rites are all about placement and positioning- according to Tarthang Tulku, it is a gesture of balance.. These Tibetan exercises are similar to the Yoga Asanas in the three levels recommended by MMY: Yoga Asanas, Course 1-3. Kum Nye (pronounced Koom Neeay) contains elements of yoga, meditation and massage and is rooted in the Dzogchen tradition. I once attened a seminar by Reginald Ray at Naropa University in Boulder where he explaining the Dzogchen practices. They are similar to basic TM practice. According to Ray, in Tibetan Buddhism Dzogchen is considered the highest and most definitive path to enlightenment. However, it is doubtful if these exercises date back 2,500 years, since Hatha Yoga wasn't even invented until the Gupta Age in India. Go figure. ...it has been suggested that the Rites are more likely to have originated from a system of Kum Nye which, like the Rites, date back 2,500 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Tibetan_Rites [image: Inline image 3] Reginald A. Ray, PhD The Tantric Consort http://youtu.be/VGvwzRP89zA Work Cited: 'Secret of the Vajra World' by 6 ^ Reginald Ray, Shambhala, 2001 p. 303 Other titles of interest: [image: Inline image 1] 'Tibetan Relaxation: The Illustrated Guide to Kum Nye Massage and Movement - a Yoga from the Tibetan Tradition' Duncan Baird, 2007 'Gesture of Balance' by Tarthang Tulku Dharma Publishing, 1977 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:42 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone lately practised 5 Tibetans? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Tibetan_Rites
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Westminster winner
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Mike, I read a yahoo article about her this morning. She's quite a champion. Would love to see her jyotish chart (-: You don't need to, I can predict her future: a few more dog shows, fame for the breeders and then puppies. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Anybody see the winning dog at Westminster last night? Her name is Skye,a five year old Fox Terrier that is absolutely beautiful. And.. she gives kisses! Thought she was going to take everybody's make-up off on GMA this morning!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still alive? (-: Only in your heart Share. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. - Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe you've responded to that question. Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you...
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Ooopsie Judy. That should be: And it most certainly is NOT the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still alive? (-: Long dead, Share: On August 15, 1935, Rogers was on a flight to Asia with the famous pilot Wiley Post when the craft developed engine troubles and crashed near Point Barrow, Alaska http://www.history.com/topics/alaska. The crash killed both men. Rogers was only 55. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. - Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe you've responded to that question. Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you...
Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred
On 2/12/2014 7:00 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, again setting the record straight: I did not write that sentence about enlightenment. Judy did. All that matters in discussing Robin's enlightenment is what Robin said about his own experience: And then I as if woke up. The spell was broken. I knew myself to have always existed. All my suffering, all my strivings, time, space, personal history was but a dream. There had never been anything but the light of consciousness. I had never been born nor would I ever die. - Robin Carlsen
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
On 2/12/2014 9:48 AM, Share Long wrote: I'm in love with Will Rogers. These sayings are only attributed to Will Rogers- somebody sent them to me in an email. But, they are very astute!
Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred
On 2/12/2014 6:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, just to set the record straight, I didn't write that sentence about enlightenment. Judy did. That's what I'm talking about. Robin said: Something disappeared forever, and I later came to know what that was. Something continued to form the apparent boundaries of Robin but the ego that had previously had so much to say about my sensation and experience of the world was now the individuated expression of what was the unmanifest reality of God.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Ooopsie Judy. That should be: And it most certainly is NOT the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I don't think Mr Xeno cares one way or another. He makes his own rules and lives by them when it suits him and when it doesn't he changes them. He appears to keep some suspect company here at FFL. Doesn't Xeno claim he's enlightened or something? If that is the case then I guess Robin was right, enlightenment is definitely a delusion or, it at least leads to bad friend choices.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean they always get everything right, or that they're always fair, but they do make an effort. What I suggested Xeno check on, of course, was a fact, not an opinion: Did Robin make any demands in his final post, as Barry claims? It's pretty easy to tell; you just have to read the post in question (for which I provided a link). Xeno appears to think it's perfectly OK for Barry to tell outrageous falsehoods and deliver wildly distorted opinions not based on fact but on his own hostile fantasies. But Xeno went to some trouble to look up a quote from a post of Barry's that I had accidentally misidentified as being about Robin when it was about Ravi, and to make a post of his own carefully pointing out the mistake. What's wrong with this picture? Why does Xeno feel compelled to defend Barry's misstatements while ostentatiously pointing out one of my rare errors? Xeno, if he's honest with himself, knows Barry's portrayals of Robin, Ann, and me do not accord with the reality. It really isn't the case that one opinion has the same value as any other, not in the world most of us live in. And it most certainly is the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I would say Barry's memory is exceptionally pliable, all right, but on a scale of 1 to 10, that pliability is at least a 9, while that of most people here--even Xeno's--is quite a few points lower. What accounts for the difference? And why, pray tell, should Barry get a pass for exploiting that pliability--especially with regard to people he doesn't like--because he enjoys starting fires by saying things that aren't so and likes to bask in the heat? How is this acceptable behavior, to deliberately slander people? Xeno claims to live in a different world than the rest of us--one in which everyday values like honesty don't count--but he seems to want to participate in our world as well while importing his own value-free outlook in his commentaries with regard to the folks he sides with, and applying everyday values to those he doesn't like. That strikes me as pretty shoddy behavior. Such double standards are hypocritical, to say the least, in the world most of us here live in. Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
[FairfieldLife] Jeff Kripal with Dana Sawyer: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 02/12/2014
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[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
No it is not odd. I am old enough now that I just do not really care that much about what people say. Lying and deception drive whole populations to behave in certain ways, whether something is true or not does not mitigate the effects. We live the effect of untruth all day long. It's in our brains, our programming. Human misunderstandings, mistakes, 'deliberate' deceptions are a part of life. One will go crazy trying to right every one. I would prefer to think I have no standards at all rather than a double one. Everyone here on FFL has at one time or another been hypocritical one way or another; there are too many contradictions in life to avoid them all. Your crusade to end hypocrisy simply has failed 100%. Long live injustice! For if you wish to have justice alone, you will always be faced with its opposite. Comportment with truth has nothing to do with any of this dualistic engagement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean they always get everything right, or that they're always fair, but they do make an effort. What I suggested Xeno check on, of course, was a fact, not an opinion: Did Robin make any demands in his final post, as Barry claims? It's pretty easy to tell; you just have to read the post in question (for which I provided a link). Xeno appears to think it's perfectly OK for Barry to tell outrageous falsehoods and deliver wildly distorted opinions not based on fact but on his own hostile fantasies. But Xeno went to some trouble to look up a quote from a post of Barry's that I had accidentally misidentified as being about Robin when it was about Ravi, and to make a post of his own carefully pointing out the mistake. What's wrong with this picture? Why does Xeno feel compelled to defend Barry's misstatements while ostentatiously pointing out one of my rare errors? Xeno, if he's honest with himself, knows Barry's portrayals of Robin, Ann, and me do not accord with the reality. It really isn't the case that one opinion has the same value as any other, not in the world most of us live in. And it most certainly is the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I would say Barry's memory is exceptionally pliable, all right, but on a scale of 1 to 10, that pliability is at least a 9, while that of most people here--even Xeno's--is quite a few points lower. What accounts for the difference? And why, pray tell, should Barry get a pass for exploiting that pliability--especially with regard to people he doesn't like--because he enjoys starting fires by saying things that aren't so and likes to bask in the heat? How is this acceptable behavior, to deliberately slander people? Xeno claims to live in a different world than the rest of us--one in which everyday values like honesty don't count--but he seems to want to participate in our world as well while importing his own value-free outlook in his commentaries with regard to the folks he sides with, and applying everyday values to those he doesn't like. That strikes me as pretty shoddy behavior. Such double standards are hypocritical, to say the least, in the world most of us here live in. Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
On 2/11/2014 9:10 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote: Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. This should be pretty easy to verify. L.B. Shriver didn't get many replies to his thread about his book, Rocks Are Melting the everyday teachings of SBS except for Buck in the Dome. Go figure. You've got to realize, Lawson, that there are only about three or four TMers seriously posting to this list. Most of the informants aren't interested in what MMY or SBS said or taught. Go figure. Apparently in the late 1990's, L.B. Shriver traveled to India as a journalist-seeker to find answers to questions he had about Swami Brahmananda Saraswati... 'The Sweet Teachings of the Blessed Sankaracarya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati' by L.B. Shriver; translation by Cynthia Ann Humes http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1244510
Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase
Job loss is the CBO's wording? Oh, reaally? Maybe you can find where those words are used by the CBO; I couldn't: http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45010-Outlook2014.pdf http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45010-Outlook2014.pdf It appears the CBO's wording is labor participation rate. As I said, the jobs aren't going away; if someone quits, someone else will take their place. Lots of folks looking for work these days, in case you hadn't heard. As to families will have more time together since some will be working less,whether they can afford it or not, in fact most will be able to afford working less, or not working at all, because of ACA, if they're now working, or working more than they'd like, just to keep their health insurance. Yes, there are various tradeoffs with ACA, no question about it. But it will be quite awhile until we know whether the positives outweigh the negatives. Given the previous ghastly mess, seems to me it's well worth a try. BTW, from the CBO report: CBO anticipates that the unemployment rate will remain high for the next few years. If changes in incentives lead some workers to reduce the amount of hours they want to work or to leave the labor force altogether, many unemployed workers will be available to take those jobs—so the effect on overall employment of reductions in labor supply will be greatly dampened. The expanded federal subsidies for health insurance will stimulate demand for goods and services, and that effect will mostly occur over the next few years. That increase in demand will induce some employers to hire more workers or to increase their employees’ hours during that period. http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45010-Outlook2014.pdf http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45010-Outlook2014.pdf (The phrase job loss does not appear in the full report either. Hate to tell you this, but the phrase is a right-wing misconstruction--a rather desperate one, IMHO--of the CBO report that's deliberately designed to mislead.) Judy, you'll have to ask the Congressional Budget Office how they calculate *job Loss*, it's their wording. Perhaps a full time job , 40 hours a week, being cut to less than 30, is considered a lost job, from full time to part time. Also, businesses paring back so as to avoid regulation could be considered job loss. Example, a business has 60 full time employees. So they take 12 jobs and create 24 part time jobs to avoid the penalty, keeping them at 48 full time jobs and 24 part time jobs under 30 hrs. a week. Technically, that business wouldn't have to provide insurance for anybody at that point and could do so to be competitive or even under- cut a larger business that can't do that.However, my original point was two fold, there will be jobs lost and the spin is that it's not so bad because families will have more time together since some will be working less,whether they can afford it or not. Not the sign of a robust economy. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:33 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Mike, there isn't going to be any job loss. If someone quits their job, the job doesn't go away, It'll just go to somebody else. I wouldn't count on employers hiring many more people with the uncertainty of the ACA. The CBO has estimated about 2.5 million job loss and will probably leave an estimated 31 million uninsured. A new 29-30 hr work week.This, being tauted as the new, desirable normal. Single mothers will *finally* be able to quit a job without fear of losing their healthcare for their children, more people being *freed* of those undesirable jobs and able to stay home and cook meals at home and raise their children. Ah yes, they'll have government subsidized healthcare but no jobs, More welfare state, more debt, more borrowing, more *quantitative easing*, more government dependency, more regulation, less freedom. I didn't like the TM movement because somebody was always telling me what I *should or shouldn't do*. Now the federal government is becoming the same way, LOL! BTW I don't see the economy getting any better otherwise why would a political party that created this mess be screaming about *income inequality*? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:15 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Mike, The increase of jobs is also dependent on the Federal Reserve Board's Quantitative Easing (QE) policy. If the interest rates remain low, there's a good chance that the employers will borrow more money to increase their sales. As such, they also will hire more people to provide services to their customers. If the economy gets better, the Fed should reduce its purchases of government bonds to prevent the rise of inflation. So far, the balancing act appears to be working.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
And yet Xeno seemed to care enough to go dig up a post of Barry's from the archives that I had quoted and (as I said) ostentatiously report that I had misidentified the person Barry was referring to. His not caring appears to be conspicuously selective. That's what I find odd. Perhaps needless to say, he hasn't addressed that point. No it is not odd. I am old enough now that I just do not really care that much about what people say. Lying and deception drive whole populations to behave in certain ways, whether something is true or not does not mitigate the effects. We live the effect of untruth all day long. It's in our brains, our programming. Human misunderstandings, mistakes, 'deliberate' deceptions are a part of life. One will go crazy trying to right every one. I would prefer to think I have no standards at all rather than a double one. Everyone here on FFL has at one time or another been hypocritical one way or another; there are too many contradictions in life to avoid them all. Your crusade to end hypocrisy simply has failed 100%. Long live injustice! For if you wish to have justice alone, you will always be faced with its opposite. Comportment with truth has nothing to do with any of this dualistic engagement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean they always get everything right, or that they're always fair, but they do make an effort. What I suggested Xeno check on, of course, was a fact, not an opinion: Did Robin make any demands in his final post, as Barry claims? It's pretty easy to tell; you just have to read the post in question (for which I provided a link). Xeno appears to think it's perfectly OK for Barry to tell outrageous falsehoods and deliver wildly distorted opinions not based on fact but on his own hostile fantasies. But Xeno went to some trouble to look up a quote from a post of Barry's that I had accidentally misidentified as being about Robin when it was about Ravi, and to make a post of his own carefully pointing out the mistake. What's wrong with this picture? Why does Xeno feel compelled to defend Barry's misstatements while ostentatiously pointing out one of my rare errors? Xeno, if he's honest with himself, knows Barry's portrayals of Robin, Ann, and me do not accord with the reality. It really isn't the case that one opinion has the same value as any other, not in the world most of us live in. And it most certainly is the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I would say Barry's memory is exceptionally pliable, all right, but on a scale of 1 to 10, that pliability is at least a 9, while that of most people here--even Xeno's--is quite a few points lower. What accounts for the difference? And why, pray tell, should Barry get a pass for exploiting that pliability--especially with regard to people he doesn't like--because he enjoys starting fires by saying things that aren't so and likes to bask in the heat? How is this acceptable behavior, to deliberately slander people? Xeno claims to live in a different world than the rest of us--one in which everyday values like honesty don't count--but he seems to want to participate in our world as well while importing his own value-free outlook in his commentaries with regard to the folks he sides with, and applying everyday values to those he doesn't like. That strikes me as pretty shoddy behavior. Such double standards are hypocritical, to say the least, in the world most of us here live in. Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
No, I have not addressed the issue you raised. By the way your comments on the CBO report seem to be accurate. http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/ http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: And yet Xeno seemed to care enough to go dig up a post of Barry's from the archives that I had quoted and (as I said) ostentatiously report that I had misidentified the person Barry was referring to. His not caring appears to be conspicuously selective. That's what I find odd. Perhaps needless to say, he hasn't addressed that point. No it is not odd. I am old enough now that I just do not really care that much about what people say. Lying and deception drive whole populations to behave in certain ways, whether something is true or not does not mitigate the effects. We live the effect of untruth all day long. It's in our brains, our programming. Human misunderstandings, mistakes, 'deliberate' deceptions are a part of life. One will go crazy trying to right every one. I would prefer to think I have no standards at all rather than a double one. Everyone here on FFL has at one time or another been hypocritical one way or another; there are too many contradictions in life to avoid them all. Your crusade to end hypocrisy simply has failed 100%. Long live injustice! For if you wish to have justice alone, you will always be faced with its opposite. Comportment with truth has nothing to do with any of this dualistic engagement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean they always get everything right, or that they're always fair, but they do make an effort. What I suggested Xeno check on, of course, was a fact, not an opinion: Did Robin make any demands in his final post, as Barry claims? It's pretty easy to tell; you just have to read the post in question (for which I provided a link). Xeno appears to think it's perfectly OK for Barry to tell outrageous falsehoods and deliver wildly distorted opinions not based on fact but on his own hostile fantasies. But Xeno went to some trouble to look up a quote from a post of Barry's that I had accidentally misidentified as being about Robin when it was about Ravi, and to make a post of his own carefully pointing out the mistake. What's wrong with this picture? Why does Xeno feel compelled to defend Barry's misstatements while ostentatiously pointing out one of my rare errors? Xeno, if he's honest with himself, knows Barry's portrayals of Robin, Ann, and me do not accord with the reality. It really isn't the case that one opinion has the same value as any other, not in the world most of us live in. And it most certainly is the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I would say Barry's memory is exceptionally pliable, all right, but on a scale of 1 to 10, that pliability is at least a 9, while that of most people here--even Xeno's--is quite a few points lower. What accounts for the difference? And why, pray tell, should Barry get a pass for exploiting that pliability--especially with regard to people he doesn't like--because he enjoys starting fires by saying things that aren't so and likes to bask in the heat? How is this acceptable behavior, to deliberately slander people? Xeno claims to live in a different world than the rest of us--one in which everyday values like honesty don't count--but he seems to want to participate in our world as well while importing his own value-free outlook in his commentaries with regard to the folks he sides with, and applying everyday values to those he doesn't like. That strikes me as pretty shoddy behavior. Such double standards are hypocritical, to say the least, in the world most of us here live in. Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Duh. So sorry to disappoint you. No, I have not addressed the issue you raised. By the way your comments on the CBO report seem to be accurate. http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/ http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: And yet Xeno seemed to care enough to go dig up a post of Barry's from the archives that I had quoted and (as I said) ostentatiously report that I had misidentified the person Barry was referring to. His not caring appears to be conspicuously selective. That's what I find odd. Perhaps needless to say, he hasn't addressed that point. No it is not odd. I am old enough now that I just do not really care that much about what people say. Lying and deception drive whole populations to behave in certain ways, whether something is true or not does not mitigate the effects. We live the effect of untruth all day long. It's in our brains, our programming. Human misunderstandings, mistakes, 'deliberate' deceptions are a part of life. One will go crazy trying to right every one. I would prefer to think I have no standards at all rather than a double one. Everyone here on FFL has at one time or another been hypocritical one way or another; there are too many contradictions in life to avoid them all. Your crusade to end hypocrisy simply has failed 100%. Long live injustice! For if you wish to have justice alone, you will always be faced with its opposite. Comportment with truth has nothing to do with any of this dualistic engagement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean they always get everything right, or that they're always fair, but they do make an effort. What I suggested Xeno check on, of course, was a fact, not an opinion: Did Robin make any demands in his final post, as Barry claims? It's pretty easy to tell; you just have to read the post in question (for which I provided a link). Xeno appears to think it's perfectly OK for Barry to tell outrageous falsehoods and deliver wildly distorted opinions not based on fact but on his own hostile fantasies. But Xeno went to some trouble to look up a quote from a post of Barry's that I had accidentally misidentified as being about Robin when it was about Ravi, and to make a post of his own carefully pointing out the mistake. What's wrong with this picture? Why does Xeno feel compelled to defend Barry's misstatements while ostentatiously pointing out one of my rare errors? Xeno, if he's honest with himself, knows Barry's portrayals of Robin, Ann, and me do not accord with the reality. It really isn't the case that one opinion has the same value as any other, not in the world most of us live in. And it most certainly is the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I would say Barry's memory is exceptionally pliable, all right, but on a scale of 1 to 10, that pliability is at least a 9, while that of most people here--even Xeno's--is quite a few points lower. What accounts for the difference? And why, pray tell, should Barry get a pass for exploiting that pliability--especially with regard to people he doesn't like--because he enjoys starting fires by saying things that aren't so and likes to bask in the heat? How is this acceptable behavior, to deliberately slander people? Xeno claims to live in a different world than the rest of us--one in which everyday values like honesty don't count--but he seems to want to participate in our world as well while importing his own value-free outlook in his commentaries with regard to the folks he sides with, and applying everyday values to those he doesn't like. That strikes me as pretty shoddy behavior. Such double standards are hypocritical, to say the least, in the world most of us here live in. Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not
Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase
Nice spin. Still you have more people seeking fewer full time jobs and jobs offering fewer hours. Now according to supply and demand, that would indicate a drop in wages for the future. Also, It's not a matter of *if someone quits their job* but *if their job disappears*. Job creators are going to be hesitant to expand employment and in some cases be inclined to downsize in order to avoid regulation. Just wondering what percentage of people out there work simply so they can have insurance and now feel that they can quit. Doubt there are many. Most people work to meet the basic necessities of life. This formula sounds like a deliberate expansion of the welfare state while spinning it as more time off to be with family. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:05 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Job loss is the CBO's wording? Oh, reaally? Maybe you can find where those words are used by the CBO; I couldn't: http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45010-Outlook2014.pdf It appears the CBO's wording is labor participation rate. As I said, the jobs aren't going away; if someone quits, someone else will take their place. Lots of folks looking for work these days, in case you hadn't heard. As to families will have more time together since some will be working less,whether they can afford it or not, in fact most will be able to afford working less, or not working at all, because of ACA, if they're now working, or working more than they'd like, just to keep their health insurance. Yes, there are various tradeoffs with ACA, no question about it. But it will be quite awhile until we know whether the positives outweigh the negatives. Given the previous ghastly mess, seems to me it's well worth a try. BTW, from the CBO report: CBO anticipates that the unemployment rate will remain high for the next few years. If changes in incentives lead some workers to reduce the amount of hours they want to work or to leave the labor force altogether, many unemployed workers will be available to take those jobs—so the effect on overall employment of reductions in labor supply will be greatly dampened. The expanded federal subsidies for health insurance will stimulate demand for goods and services, and that effect will mostly occur over the next few years. That increase in demand will induce some employers to hire more workers or to increase their employees’ hours during that period. http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45010-Outlook2014.pdf (The phrase job loss does not appear in the full report either. Hate to tell you this, but the phrase is a right-wing misconstruction--a rather desperate one, IMHO--of the CBO report that's deliberately designed to mislead.) Judy, you'll have to ask the Congressional Budget Office how they calculate *job Loss*, it's their wording. Perhaps a full time job , 40 hours a week, being cut to less than 30, is considered a lost job, from full time to part time. Also, businesses paring back so as to avoid regulation could be considered job loss. Example, a businesshas 60 full time employees. So they take 12 jobs and create 24 part time jobs to avoid the penalty, keeping them at 48 full time jobs and 24 part time jobs under 30 hrs. a week. Technically, that business wouldn't have to provide insurance for anybody at that point and could do so to be competitiveor even under- cut a larger business that can't do that.However, my original point was two fold, there will be jobs lost and the spin is that it's not so bad because families will have more time together since some will be working less,whether they can afford it or not. Not the sign of a robust economy. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:33 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Mike, there isn't going to be any job loss. If someone quits their job, the job doesn't go away, It'll just go to somebody else. I wouldn't count on employers hiring many more people with the uncertainty of the ACA. The CBOhas estimated about 2.5 million job loss and will probably leave an estimated 31 million uninsured. A new 29-30 hr work week.This, being tauted as the new, desirable normal. Single mothers will *finally* be able to quit a job without fear of losing their healthcarefor their children, more people being *freed* of those undesirable jobs and able to stay home and cook meals at home and raise their children. Ah yes, they'll have government subsidized healthcarebut no jobs, More welfarestate, more debt, more borrowing, more *quantitativeeasing*, more government dependency, more regulation, less freedom. I didn't like the TM movement because somebody was always telling me what I *should or shouldn't do*. Now the federal government is becoming the same way, LOL! BTW I don't see the economy getting any better otherwise why would a political party that created this mess be screaming about *income inequality*? On
Re: [FairfieldLife] Westminster winner
She's already won the top show, Westminster and over a hundred Best In Shows. Bet she will be in the whelping box very soon. Usually,that is the fate of females in dog showing. The exceptional males may go a few more years. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:24 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Mike, I read a yahoo article about her this morning. She's quite a champion. Would love to see her jyotish chart (-: You don't need to, I can predict her future: a few more dog shows, fame for the breeders and then puppies. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Anybody see the winning dog at Westminster last night? Her name is Skye,a five year old Fox Terrier that is absolutely beautiful. And.. she gives kisses! Thought she was going to take everybody's make-up off on GMA this morning!
[FairfieldLife] Most desperate science story of the week....
We believe it is possible that neutron emissions by earthquakes could have induced the image formation on the Shroud's linen fibres, through thermal neutron capture on nitrogen nuclei, and could also have caused a wrong radiocarbon dating, said Prof Carpinteri. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/turin-shroud-could-earthquake-dating-back-to-time-of-jesus-solve-the-mystery-9123727.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/turin-shroud-could-earthquake-dating-back-to-time-of-jesus-solve-the-mystery-9123727.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV-inspired rap: Some early Top Of The Lake impressions
Yes, I agree he should stick with it. It has some surprises coming up. It's also interesting how Elizabeth Moss's career has developed. I recall her being the teen villain in the ABC sci-fi dram Invasion of around 10 years ago. Last night I watched the British thriller Closed Circuit on Blu-ray with Eric Bana, Rebecca Hall, Jim Broadbent, Ciarán Hinds and Julia Stiles. I really liked where the storyline goes but can't go into that without it being a spoiler. On 02/11/2014 10:55 PM, ultrarishi wrote: Stick with it. It's good. Most long form crime series pad out their stories with stuff, like the so called angry feminist element you speak of. However, misdirection is a key part of these dramas and the padding is the misdirection. While I don't want to give any spoilers, the misdirection is there to keep you from solving the mystery too soon. What would be fun in watching if you guessed right off the bat. Season 2 of Bron / Broen made good use of this with various plot elements. Same goes for the Killing. At the end of the day this is still just a crime drama, just with characters a bit more wacky than usual.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
The levels of the caste system seem to play out in nature BUT people are not locked into any particular caste. It has more to do with dharma. I've heard Indians lecture that anyone who pursues intellectual achievement is a brahmin. On 02/12/2014 04:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: and exactly what does that mean given the fact that the caste system was a bullshit deal set up by the brahmins to ensure their continued domination in their society? On Wed, 2/12/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:44 AM Lawson, Compared to the general American public, TMers can be considered as brahmins, or twice born, since all of us have gone through the initiation to the meditation tradition of Gurudev. But there are those TMers who have relinquished this title by words and actions. Also, by reason, those who have earned to become a brahmin should be considered as such. But not all persons born to the brahmin caste are qualified to be considered as one if they don't act accordingly. IMO, that's where the present caste system in India has failed to recognize.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote: Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. I've read comments from famous gurus/spiritual leaders in India who knew Gurudev and then heard Maharishi speak, and they basiclly said he did a good job of channeling his guru. And really, that is all he ever claimed he was doing for most of the history of the TM organization. He made it clear where he changed things: he chose to use householder mantras, and he simplified things as much as he possibly could with respect to teaching TM, and may have simplified the practice itself. But he never explained in detail the changes or what Gurudev taught him exactly. But, my friend Anoop Chandola had a chance to meet the successor to Gurudev named in the will, and asked the question: What about this Maharishi who is with the Beatles? Is he legitimate? The answer was: Let me put it this way: he would be my first as my successor, but they won't allow it due to the caste laws. So... whatever Maharishi said about such things, it was probably similar to what Gurudev said. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
noozguru, I guess that means that everyone in the FFLounge is a brahmin (-: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:00 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The levels of the caste system seem to play out in nature BUT people are not locked into any particular caste. It has more to do with dharma. I've heard Indians lecture that anyone who pursues intellectual achievement is a brahmin. On 02/12/2014 04:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: and exactly what does that mean given the fact that the caste system was a bullshit deal set up by the brahmins to ensure their continued domination in their society? On Wed, 2/12/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:44 AM Lawson, Compared to the general American public, TMers can be considered as brahmins, or twice born, since all of us have gone through the initiation to the meditation tradition of Gurudev. But there are those TMers who have relinquished this title by words and actions. Also, by reason, those who have earned to become a brahmin should be considered as such. But not all persons born to the brahmin caste are qualified to be considered as one if they don't act accordingly. IMO, that's where the present caste system in India has failed to recognize.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote: Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. I've read comments from famous gurus/spiritual leaders in India who knew Gurudev and then heard Maharishi speak, and they basiclly said he did a good job of channeling his guru. And really, that is all he ever claimed he was doing for most of the history of the TM organization. He made it clear where he changed things: he chose to use householder mantras, and he simplified things as much as he possibly could with respect to teaching TM, and may have simplified the practice itself. But he never explained in detail the changes or what Gurudev taught him exactly. But, my friend Anoop Chandola had a chance to meet the successor to Gurudev named in the will, and asked the question: What about this Maharishi who is with the Beatles? Is he legitimate? The answer was: Let me put it this way: he would be my first as my successor, but they won't allow it due to the caste laws. So... whatever Maharishi said about such things, it was probably similar to what Gurudev said. L
[FairfieldLife] China's Moon Rover Is Kaput
It apparently did not survive the long frigid lunar night. So, what's next? Also, we can appreciate how the American rover on Mars has survived for about ten years now. http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/12/5404378/jade-rabbit-yutu-china-moon-rover-fails-after-malfunction http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/12/5404378/jade-rabbit-yutu-china-moon-rover-fails-after-malfunction
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
Bhairitu, Technically, what you're saying is correct. Intellectuals could be considered as brahmins.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
Except for the ones who behave like sudras. ;-) On 02/12/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, I guess that means that everyone in the FFLounge is a brahmin (-: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:00 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The levels of the caste system seem to play out in nature BUT people are not locked into any particular caste. It has more to do with dharma. I've heard Indians lecture that anyone who pursues intellectual achievement is a brahmin. On 02/12/2014 04:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: and exactly what does that mean given the fact that the caste system was a bullshit deal set up by the brahmins to ensure their continued domination in their society? On Wed, 2/12/14, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:44 AM Lawson, Compared to the general American public, TMers can be considered as brahmins, or twice born, since all of us have gone through the initiation to the meditation tradition of Gurudev. But there are those TMers who have relinquished this title by words and actions. Also, by reason, those who have earned to become a brahmin should be considered as such. But not all persons born to the brahmin caste are qualified to be considered as one if they don't act accordingly. IMO, that's where the present caste system in India has failed to recognize.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote: Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. I've read comments from famous gurus/spiritual leaders in India who knew Gurudev and then heard Maharishi speak, and they basiclly said he did a good job of channeling his guru. And really, that is all he ever claimed he was doing for most of the history of the TM organization. He made it clear where he changed things: he chose to use householder mantras, and he simplified things as much as he possibly could with respect to teaching TM, and may have simplified the practice itself. But he never explained in detail the changes or what Gurudev taught him exactly. But, my friend Anoop Chandola had a chance to meet the successor to Gurudev named in the will, and asked the question: What about this Maharishi who is with the Beatles? Is he legitimate? The answer was: Let me put it this way: he would be my first as my successor, but they won't allow it due to the caste laws. So... whatever Maharishi said about such things, it was probably similar to what Gurudev said. L
[FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
MJ, The caste system was originally created to divide the work in society based on the person's inherent and natural gifts for certain skills. Brahmins are supposed to perform the priestly duties for society. They can come from any family in society as long as they are intellectually and temperamentally suited to perform the duties. It was not meant to create permanent jobs for certain families or tribes in society, which is the way the caste system is practiced today in India.
Re: [FairfieldLife] for your heart, drink water before going to sleep
Coconut anything calms pitta. Our bodies are like car engines. You don't want it to overheat nor do you want it to freeze and crack the block. Back in the days MMY gleaned onto Hans Selye's works but TM mainly focused on the sympathetic branch of the autonomic nervous system and almost ignoring the parasympathetic branch. True back in the day most older patients were suffering from what medical folks now call metabolic syndrome where the sympathetic system dominates. When the sympathetic system dominates often pitta is high. IOW, time to chill out. Many of these solutions if over done can makes someone become parasympathetic dominant. There you can become drowsy and sluggish not to mention overweight. I stumbled across these two short articles by a chiropractor that explain very simply the two types: http://drmichaelroth.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/sympathetic-nervous-system-dominance/ http://drmichaelroth.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/parasympathetic-nervous-system-dominance/ On 02/11/2014 08:06 AM, Share Long wrote: Mike, they say that coconut water is very hydrating and higher in potassium than bananas. I drink a cup every evening before dinner. Plus it's yummy! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:07 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: I need to drink more water. I usually have pleasant watery-like dreams when I'm well hydrated. On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:45 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: You're welcome, Mike. I realize many in the Funny Farm Lounge are creeping up in age. Good to take excellent care of the body. Don't believe everything you read. Any second now there'll be a study that proves drinking water before bed is really, really bad for you. On Monday, February 10, 2014 3:58 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Very interesting Share. Thanks. On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:29 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: *_ Water and your heart http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_* _How many folks do you know who say they don't want to drink anything before going to bed because they'll have to get up during the night!! http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _Why do people need to urinate so much at night time. Answer from a Cardiologist: Gravity holds water in the lower part of your body when you are upright (legs swell). When you lie down and the lower body (legs and etc.) seeks level with the kidneys, it is then that the kidneys remove the water because it is easier. This then ties in with the last statement! http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _Correct time to drink water... Very Important. From A Cardiac Specialist! http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _Drinking water at a certain time maximizes its effectiveness on the body: 2 glasses of water after waking up - helps activate internal organs, 1 glass of water 30 minutes before a meal - helps digestion, 1 glass of water before taking a bath - helps lower blood pressure, 1 glass of water before going to bed - avoids stroke or heart attack http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _Also: water at bed time will also help prevent night time leg cramps. Your leg muscles are seeking hydration when they cramp and wake you up with a Charlie Horse. http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _A Cardiologist has stated that if each person after receiving this e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one life could be saved! http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _I have already shared this information. What about you? http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_ _Do forward this message. It may save lives! http://purehistory.org/media/15757/roy-eaton.html_
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
definitely a few kshatriyas (-: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:33 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Except for the ones who behave like sudras. ;-) On 02/12/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, I guess that means that everyone in the FFLounge is a brahmin (-: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:00 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The levels of the caste system seem to play out in nature BUT people are not locked into any particular caste. It has more to do with dharma. I've heard Indians lecture that anyone who pursues intellectual achievement is a brahmin. On 02/12/2014 04:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: and exactly what does that mean given the fact that the caste system was a bullshit deal set up by the brahmins to ensure their continued domination in their society? On Wed, 2/12/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:44 AM Lawson, Compared to the general American public, TMers can be considered as brahmins, or twice born, since all of us have gone through the initiation to the meditation tradition of Gurudev. But there are those TMers who have relinquished this title by words and actions. Also, by reason, those who have earned to become a brahmin should be considered as such. But not all persons born to the brahmin caste are qualified to be considered as one if they don't act accordingly. IMO, that's where the present caste system in India has failed to recognize.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote: Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. I've read comments from famous gurus/spiritual leaders in India who knew Gurudev and then heard Maharishi speak, and they basiclly said he did a good job of channeling his guru. And really, that is all he ever claimed he was doing for most of the history of the TM organization. He made it clear where he changed things: he chose to use householder mantras, and he simplified things as much as he possibly could with respect to teaching TM, and may have simplified the practice itself. But he never explained in detail the changes or what Gurudev taught him exactly. But, my friend Anoop Chandola had a chance to meet the successor to Gurudev named in the will, and asked the question: What about this Maharishi who is with the Beatles? Is he legitimate? The answer was: Let me put it this way: he would be my first as my successor, but they won't allow it due to the caste laws. So... whatever Maharishi said about such things, it was probably similar to what Gurudev said. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
On 2/12/2014 9:39 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be? This place is supposed to be for sharing information about life experiences and views, but nothing posted here should be taken seriously. There are no scientists posting here that I know of. There used to be an educator Ph.D. psychologist posting here and there was a clinical NP (nurse practioner) posting here at one time. Back in the old days, we used to depend on Rick and Alex to tell us what's going on in Fairfield. But, these days we've got some real informants here who are on the inside of the TMO - so we know all about the comings-and-goings of the TMers up there at MUM, inside the golden domes, and at the Revelations Cafe Book Store. Apparently everyone in town gets their pizza and coffee beans at Revelations downtown on Main Street. You can safely ignore most of the posts of the ex-baker and the expat. There are only a few people posting on-topic messages here these days: Buck, Share, Lawson and Judy. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Knights of Badassdom
I've been waiting for this one ever since I heard about it on whedonesque.com, and it arrived in my Pirate queue at the perfect time, just when I needed a little something to take the taste of Top Of The Lake out of my eyes. (Suffice it to say I was underwhelmed.) This one's a hoot, one that might be appreciated by bhairitu and few others here, a sorta horror movie/adventure tale based on the concept of real-life fantasy role player geeks. Imagine Dungeons and Dragons played for real, by nerds, in a forest, with supernatural overtones. Or Pennsic, the annual gathering of the Society for Creative Anachronism (which I have attended), on shrooms. Throw in Peter Dinklage (the best actor from Game Of Thrones), Ryan Kwanten (the hunk from True Blood), and...the nerdboy icing on the cake, everyone's favorite nerd princess...Summer Glau (River, from Firefly) and you've got yerself a fantasy romp in the woods that will have every nerdboy in America jerking off into their hankies for weeks. Me, I just watched it...hankiless, and laughed my way through pretty much every minute. It was fun, something that Fairfield Life hasn't been for years, so I preferred it to paying any attention to the insane people here on FFL today. If you guys still think that anyone here deserves more attention, by all means focus on them. Me, I'd pick Summer Glau and fun anytime... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyougFDZ7zU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyougFDZ7zU
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Not disappointed. For some reason I did attempt to check your quote of Barry's. Normally I do not check anyone's quotes. Yahoo's Neo was simply giving me an error message. I logged in to an ATT account which seems to have a connexion to Yahoo through a server without Neo. It took a while to pin the quote down because I do not recall you having given the number of the post. I was surprised at the result; you occasionally make errors of this sort, but not very often. It was rather seemingly random for the most part that I stumbled on that. When I get a new software program, the first thing that usually happens to me is I find some bug, and it is not through deliberate searching, it just happens that way. Regarding referring to me in the third person, that has the semblance of non-interaction, but it is an appearance only, not the underlying intent. I would say this: As far as individual facts you have a far greater accuracy rate compared to Barry. But as to how all those facts fit together to make a life, along with all the vicissitudes of life, all the deceptions that life brings, Barry has a much greater grasp of reality than you do. This doesn't mean he is somehow more honest or less honest than others might be, it is that he has developed an equilibrium with what is going on, and you seem to be in a constant war with what is going on. It is not a logical thing, it is an intuitive thing, this kind of evaluation, and such an evaluation may or not be reliable, but it is all I have to go on. Equilibrium develops between family, friends, acquaintances, even enemies. I seem to have developed an on-line equilibrium with Barry. We do not know each other, it is all textual interaction, maybe it is more we stay out of each other's way; there is no rule that he will never disagree with me or I him. With you, equilibrium does not seem possible at this juncture; impossibility seems more the word to use, as a feeling I would say an eternal impossibility. Since you cannot directly discuss with me now due to your insistence on imaginary honesty, that becomes even more impossible now than before, even though 'more impossible' is a ridiculous phrase since 'impossible' is all that need be said. The two of you seem to be the antipodes of FFL, which results in so much fun, so much turmoil. What a show! If there was a god, he (or she) could do no better at creating perturbing situations. In the words (written by Johnathan Nolan and Christopher Nolan) for the character the Joker in the movie The Dark Knight Rises: Oh, you. You just couldn't let me go, could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible, aren't you? You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness. And I won't kill you because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Duh. So sorry to disappoint you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Correction: Some people get their coffee beans at Revelations and some people get their coffee at Cafe Paridiso, in Fairfield, IA. [image: Inline image 2] http://kartikasays.com/category/life-in-fairfield-iowa/ . On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/12/2014 9:39 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be? This place is supposed to be for sharing information about life experiences and views, but nothing posted here should be taken seriously. There are no scientists posting here that I know of. There used to be an educator Ph.D. psychologist posting here and there was a clinical NP (nurse practioner) posting here at one time. Back in the old days, we used to depend on Rick and Alex to tell us what's going on in Fairfield. But, these days we've got some real informants here who are on the inside of the TMO - so we know all about the comings-and-goings of the TMers up there at MUM, inside the golden domes, and at the Revelations Cafe Book Store. Apparently everyone in town gets their pizza and coffee beans at Revelations downtown on Main Street. You can safely ignore most of the posts of the ex-baker and the expat. There are only a few people posting on-topic messages here these days: Buck, Share, Lawson and Judy. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Please contact and boycott Nicole Miller, Inc.
The CEO of Nicole Miller, Inc. has recently come out with some extremely offensive, and insensitive, comments, along the lines of, let them eat cake I think the best way for this moron to wake up, is to contact the company he runs, and also start boycotting his company. Bloodsuckers like this only understand the bottom line. Article link: http://tinyurl.com/mfrm4d5 http://tinyurl.com/mfrm4d5
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Ideal Home Office
The ideal home office would be having raised access flooring for better cable management. [image: Inline image 1] 'How a shallow raised floor provides cable management' http://www.cablinginstall.com/articles/print/volume-21/issue-3/features/how-a-shallow-raised-floor-provides-cable-management.html Low Profie Floor: http://www.steelcase.com/en/products/category/architectural/floors/low-profile-floor/pages/overview.aspx On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: 15. The ideal home office would have a smooth floor so that the office chair can roll around easily in order to grab things off other tables and counters. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey, Richard, don't forget rebounders! Also known as mini trampolines. Good for the bones, good for the immune system. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:37 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: 13. The ideal home office will have a stationary bicycle, and/or a treadmill, an elliptical or other exercise device, and maybe some 5-10 pound one-handed barbells. [image: Inline image 1] 14. The ideal home office would have a good pair of noise-cancelling head phones. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: [image: Inline image 1] Example of an ideal home office, above; below a description of a poor home office: There's a nerd guy I know that lives down the street who does almost all of his homework sitting on a twin bed with his dog - the bed is a mattress on the floor, no frame. He has an old army sleeping bag which also doubles as a pillow when not in use for sleeping or on really hot days. This guy has a large box fan sitting on the floor, usually set to high. The guy has an old laptop computer with a 14 inch display, but no internet; a 21 inch cathode ray TV set with rabbit ears sitting on a TV tray. There is a game box with two controllers and several game discs on the floor next to a cardboard box. There's an Emerson microwave on the counter next to a small sink in the corner of the room. His place is located out back behind the main house next to the alley. Two large dogs roam the back yard which is mostly dirt and rocks with a few sprouts of Johnson grass. There is no water hose but there is a spigot at the side of the main hose. He parks his car on the street at the curb in front of the house. There is a sidewalk made of square flat concrete slabs that he got at Home Depot garden center. His door has a combination padlock on the outside of the door with a chain for security. Inside the door has a sliding bolt assembly he bought at Ace Hardware. This nerd guy has an old Lazy Boy recliner for his chair that he found at the curb from a house down the street that he found during free curb-side trash pick up. His main light is a cord hanging from the center of the ceiling with an aluminum shield on it that he got at the Family Dollar. He has a radiant electric heater on the floor near the foot of the bed. There is a window in the back of the room covered with aluminum foil and it opens, but has no screen. This nerd has a styro-foam cooler for keeping beer cooled, which doubles as a table for an ash tray, which is large coffee can filled with sand. There is a bathroom in this guys home office, but it contains no tissue of any kind and no soap. Go figure. Suggestions for an Ideal Home Office: A ideal home office should be designed for getting things done. The ideal home home office will have a desk; a chair; a table light; and some writing paper and a box of pencils. The ideal home office would be a separate room with a door and window to allow natural light to enter the room. In addition to the above an ideal office will have its own bathroom for easy convenience. The ideal home office will have a long counter (with drawers or cabinets or both); a sink (double or single, ceramic or aluminum); a refrigerator (double or single door with a freezer) and a stove (gas or electric) to food cook on. The ideal office will have a coffee pot (drip, automatic; and a glass water kettle for boiling water. The ideal home office will have a coffee bean grinder. The desk should be stable, constructed of wood or metal, and at a suitable position for maximum utility. The chair should be comfortable and supporting. The table light should provide ample lighting for doing work. The ideal home office would be located in a place free of unwanted distractions. In addition, the ideal home office would be equipped with a telephone (land line or cell); a computer (desktop or laptop) preferably with two or more large flat-screen monitors and a sound system; a file cabinet (metal or wood); a printer (inkjet or laser); and a fax machine (or computer fax software) and a flat-bed scanner. The bathroom should include a roll of tissue; a box of tissues;
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer
so I amend my remarks to say that it got derailed AFTER the brahmins shanghaied it for their pleasure - the Laws of Manu were a watershed for that I believe. On Wed, 2/12/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:43 PM MJ, The caste system was originally created to divide the work in society based on the person's inherent and natural gifts for certain skills. Brahmins are supposed to perform the priestly duties for society. They can come from any family in society as long as they are intellectually and temperamentally suited to perform the duties. It was not meant to create permanent jobs for certain families or tribes in society, which is the way the caste system is practiced today in India.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Judy, I'm gonna guess that you excelled in dodge ball as a grade schooler. I'm not going to bother to sort out the details of what you are saying here. I think the broad outlines of Robin's posts are pretty clear. Now within the broad outlines you can create any tale you like, but what he posted, the lengths of his posts, and his overall objectives, stand on their own. I'm not sayin they make sense. Hell No!. But other than that, the technical aspects and the intent I think are clear. BTW, they do have dodge ball leagues for adults. Whether or not they have one for seniors, I couldn't say. But I'd love to join one too. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't anything Robin wanted to set straight. You made that up. And he never wrote a single post anywhere near as long as 12,000 words. What was 12,000 words, in this case, was the total of the four posts he linked to (I'm taking Barry's word for this, which may be foolish on my part) in his last post, which was only 313 words. Your response is, once again, a bunch of non sequiturs. I'm the only person to whom what made sense? And your next-to-last sentence makes no sense at all. Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking things into paragraphs. Now, I guess Judy did clue me into one aspect of his writing, that is, his 12,000 word posts were written for posterity, if I understand it correctly. As I understand it, Robin decided to venture onto FFL as a result of an invitation (from Rick?) and as an exercise, a sort of meta therapeutic venturing forth in the form of this internet forum. I don't think he had really investigated this type of format before other than for a few months on the alt. blahdadeblah (can't remember the name) forum. Judy will know all this history. But I don't think he wrote what he did at FFL for posterity. This was pretty much an exercise for his own benefit. At least that is how I remember him talking about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up his wall of words as I felt that people might be interested in what he had to say. To me a wall of words shows worse than misspellings that the writer is ignorant or poorly educated. It's not necessarily an education thang. Some people are simply not aware of the short attention spans of Internet- and soundbyte-impaired readers these days. They find it almost impossible to read a Wall Of Words. Therefore, if you wish to communicate, you use shorter paragraphs. However, according to my friend the
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Of course you're not going to bother to sort out the details of what I wrote. You're in too deep a hole to even see over the edge. Apparently his intent was not at all clear to you. His overall objective was neither to write posts for posterity, nor to set the record straight, or whatever other silly fantasies you may be entertaining. Ann and I have both explained to you what his intent actually was. If you believe Barry's version, you're a bigger tool than I thought. Oh, and no dodging by me in this discussion. It's you who've been dodging, as you do in this post. Judy, I'm gonna guess that you excelled in dodge ball as a grade schooler. I'm not going to bother to sort out the details of what you are saying here. I think the broad outlines of Robin's posts are pretty clear. Now within the broad outlines you can create any tale you like, but what he posted, the lengths of his posts, and his overall objectives, stand on their own. I'm not sayin they make sense. Hell No!. But other than that, the technical aspects and the intent I think are clear. BTW, they do have dodge ball leagues for adults. Whether or not they have one for seniors, I couldn't say. But I'd love to join one too. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't anything Robin wanted to set straight. You made that up. And he never wrote a single post anywhere near as long as 12,000 words. What was 12,000 words, in this case, was the total of the four posts he linked to (I'm taking Barry's word for this, which may be foolish on my part) in his last post, which was only 313 words. Your response is, once again, a bunch of non sequiturs. I'm the only person to whom what made sense? And your next-to-last sentence makes no sense at all. Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking things into paragraphs. Now, I guess Judy did clue me into one aspect of his writing, that is, his 12,000 word posts were written for posterity, if I understand it correctly. As I understand it, Robin decided to venture onto FFL as a result of an invitation (from Rick?) and as an exercise, a sort of meta therapeutic venturing forth in the form of this internet forum. I don't think he had really investigated this type of format before other than for a few months on the alt. blahdadeblah (can't remember the name) forum. Judy will know all this history. But I don't think he wrote what he did at FFL for posterity. This was pretty much an exercise for his own benefit. At least that is how I remember him talking about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Knights of Badassdom
They must've had a hard time finding a distributor. The trailer is over a year old but the discs just released (according to canistream.it). BTW, Counselor is now out on disc and online rental. There is a director's cut version. On 02/12/2014 12:37 PM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been waiting for this one ever since I heard about it on whedonesque.com, and it arrived in my Pirate queue at the perfect time, just when I needed a little something to take the taste of Top Of The Lake out of my eyes. (Suffice it to say I was underwhelmed.) This one's a hoot, one that might be appreciated by bhairitu and few others here, a sorta horror movie/adventure tale based on the concept of real-life fantasy role player geeks. Imagine Dungeons and Dragons played for real, by nerds, in a forest, with supernatural overtones. Or Pennsic, the annual gathering of the Society for Creative Anachronism (which I have attended), on shrooms. Throw in Peter Dinklage (the best actor from Game Of Thrones), Ryan Kwanten (the hunk from True Blood), and...the nerdboy icing on the cake, everyone's favorite nerd princess...Summer Glau (River, from Firefly) and you've got yerself a fantasy romp in the woods that will have every nerdboy in America jerking off into their hankies for weeks. Me, I just watched it...hankiless, and laughed my way through pretty much every minute. It was fun, something that Fairfield Life hasn't been for years, so I preferred it to paying any attention to the insane people here on FFL today. If you guys still think that anyone here deserves more attention, by all means focus on them. Me, I'd pick Summer Glau and fun anytime... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyougFDZ7zU
Re: [FairfieldLife] Please contact and boycott Nicole Miller, Inc.
They seem to want to create the world of Elysium where they live off world in their own private community. The world seems to go through this every time there is a quantum leap in society: the bloodsuckers rush in to be the landed gentry. We should shove them off world on a one way trip to the sun. On 02/12/2014 12:43 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: The CEO of Nicole Miller, Inc. has recently come out with some extremely offensive, and insensitive, comments, along the lines of, let them eat cake I think the best way for this moron to wake up, is to contact the company he runs, and also start boycotting his company. Bloodsuckers like this only understand the bottom line. Article link: http://tinyurl.com/mfrm4d5
[FairfieldLife] More on missing pandits
http://issuu.com/sandeshusa/docs/epaper_e1a25118f479b6 http://issuu.com/sandeshusa/docs/epaper_e1a25118f479b6
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
These are all your usual come ons, and of course, put downs. Prolonged discussions with you rarely result in any benefit, and often devolve into your mind reading abilities. But I guess it must give you pride to be the self appointed RWC expert. Something to hang your hat on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Of course you're not going to bother to sort out the details of what I wrote. You're in too deep a hole to even see over the edge. Apparently his intent was not at all clear to you. His overall objective was neither to write posts for posterity, nor to set the record straight, or whatever other silly fantasies you may be entertaining. Ann and I have both explained to you what his intent actually was. If you believe Barry's version, you're a bigger tool than I thought. Oh, and no dodging by me in this discussion. It's you who've been dodging, as you do in this post. Judy, I'm gonna guess that you excelled in dodge ball as a grade schooler. I'm not going to bother to sort out the details of what you are saying here. I think the broad outlines of Robin's posts are pretty clear. Now within the broad outlines you can create any tale you like, but what he posted, the lengths of his posts, and his overall objectives, stand on their own. I'm not sayin they make sense. Hell No!. But other than that, the technical aspects and the intent I think are clear. BTW, they do have dodge ball leagues for adults. Whether or not they have one for seniors, I couldn't say. But I'd love to join one too. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't anything Robin wanted to set straight. You made that up. And he never wrote a single post anywhere near as long as 12,000 words. What was 12,000 words, in this case, was the total of the four posts he linked to (I'm taking Barry's word for this, which may be foolish on my part) in his last post, which was only 313 words. Your response is, once again, a bunch of non sequiturs. I'm the only person to whom what made sense? And your next-to-last sentence makes no sense at all. Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that little rascal would show up again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking things into paragraphs. Now, I guess Judy did clue me into one aspect of his writing, that is, his 12,000 word posts were written for posterity, if I understand it correctly. As I understand it, Robin decided to venture onto FFL as a result of an invitation (from Rick?) and as an exercise, a sort of meta therapeutic venturing forth in the form of this internet forum. I don't think he had really investigated this type of format before other than for a few months on the alt. blahdadeblah (can't remember the name) forum. Judy will know all this history. But I don't think he wrote what he did at FFL for posterity. This was
[FairfieldLife] QM Veda?
http://www.krishnapath.org/quantum-physics-came-from-the-vedas-schrodinger-einstein-and-tesla-were-all-vedantists/ http://www.krishnapath.org/quantum-physics-came-from-the-vedas-schrodinger-einstein-and-tesla-were-all-vedantists/
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV-inspired rap: Some early Top Of The Lake impressions
I watched the whole of Top Of The Lake. It's unpleasant and violent with no redeeming or attractive characters. I only watched because of the UG guru role to see where that would lead. Nowhere is the answer. There's no real relationship between the spiritual group and the disorder and crime surrounding it so the commune just adds a slightly exotic ambience to the drama. You wanted Holly Hunter's character to provide an alternative interpretation of the events but there is no resolution - just a confirmation of Campion's pessimism.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 13-Feb-14 00:15:10 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 02/08/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 02/15/14 00:00:00 710 messages as of (UTC) 02/12/14 23:22:12 143 authfriend 94 awoelflebater 68 steve.sundur 66 Richard J. Williams 56 Share Long 39 Michael Jackson 37 TurquoiseB 29 salyavin808 25 dhamiltony2k5 25 Bhairitu 21 jr_esq 17 Pundit Sir 16 nablusoss1008 14 Mike Dixon 10 cardemaister 10 anartaxius 9 s3raphita 7 bhairitu 6 yifuxero 6 emptybill 3 LEnglish5 2 doctordumbass 2 Rick Archer 2 Joe 1 ultrarishi 1 turquoiseb 1 geezerfreak Posters: 27 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ Oprah Winfrey did a TV show about Fairfield, and part of that show as about teh Vedic Pandits. The living and working conditions could be seen in the TV footage: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video No news article has bothered to do any fact checking on this issue. Certainly, no news article has bothered to link to the Oprah TV footage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Do you not know what come-on means? Look it up. Stevie, you practically solicit putdowns with your non sequiturs and inability, or unwillingness, to say anything relevant. You have no interest in actual discussion. It's not possible to have an intelligent discussion with you. There are any number of things we could have talked about in this exchange, but you've ignored them all and just made (not-so) smart cracks. You make more than your share of putdowns and engage in more than your share of mind-reading (e.g., your last sentence), but none of your mind-reading has any basis; you're just shooting blanks. And you have no reason to think I've been anything but completely straightforward in this exchange. No, it doesn't give me pride to be FFL's RWC expert. Why on earth should it? I know him better than most people here and have read his posts closely because I found him very interesting. No credit to me in that regard, and why anyone should resent it, I can't imagine. As I said before, he's a complex guy with complex thought processes, and you have to tune in if you want to really get him. For me, that's been extremely rewarding, but he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine, no reason he should have been. These are all your usual come ons, and of course, put downs. Prolonged discussions with you rarely result in any benefit, and often devolve into your mind reading abilities. But I guess it must give you pride to be the self appointed RWC expert. Something to hang your hat on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Of course you're not going to bother to sort out the details of what I wrote. You're in too deep a hole to even see over the edge. Apparently his intent was not at all clear to you. His overall objective was neither to write posts for posterity, nor to set the record straight, or whatever other silly fantasies you may be entertaining. Ann and I have both explained to you what his intent actually was. If you believe Barry's version, you're a bigger tool than I thought. Oh, and no dodging by me in this discussion. It's you who've been dodging, as you do in this post. Judy, I'm gonna guess that you excelled in dodge ball as a grade schooler. I'm not going to bother to sort out the details of what you are saying here. I think the broad outlines of Robin's posts are pretty clear. Now within the broad outlines you can create any tale you like, but what he posted, the lengths of his posts, and his overall objectives, stand on their own. I'm not sayin they make sense. Hell No!. But other than that, the technical aspects and the intent I think are clear. BTW, they do have dodge ball leagues for adults. Whether or not they have one for seniors, I couldn't say. But I'd love to join one too. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't anything Robin wanted to set straight. You made that up. And he never wrote a single post anywhere near as long as 12,000 words. What was 12,000 words, in this case, was the total of the four posts he linked to (I'm taking Barry's word for this, which may be foolish on my part) in his last post, which was only 313 words. Your response is, once again, a bunch of non sequiturs. I'm the only person to whom what made sense? And your next-to-last sentence makes no sense at all. Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about it. We wouldn't still be talking about this if you did. I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
Excellent points. For most of us, it is just a chat room. A place to banter about. And so, it is sort of jarring when someone like Judy takes everything so seriously and personally. Like it squeezes most of the fun out of it. Of course you will never convince her of that. She views herself as the staunch upholder of truth and justice, and there is no battle too small for her to fight. Just like what she is going to say in response to this post. The internet age was made for her in some ways as it is easier to be friends with someone, or maintain an alliance when you can remain at arms length. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
I wonder if wisdom will descend on Judy as it has on you taxius. I gather you are a few years her senior, but maybe not by too much. I guess realistically, it ain't gonna happen. But I enjoy your comments. Like, especially the short ones. (opsie, I hope that was alright to say) (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: No it is not odd. I am old enough now that I just do not really care that much about what people say. Lying and deception drive whole populations to behave in certain ways, whether something is true or not does not mitigate the effects. We live the effect of untruth all day long. It's in our brains, our programming. Human misunderstandings, mistakes, 'deliberate' deceptions are a part of life. One will go crazy trying to right every one. I would prefer to think I have no standards at all rather than a double one. Everyone here on FFL has at one time or another been hypocritical one way or another; there are too many contradictions in life to avoid them all. Your crusade to end hypocrisy simply has failed 100%. Long live injustice! For if you wish to have justice alone, you will always be faced with its opposite. Comportment with truth has nothing to do with any of this dualistic engagement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean they always get everything right, or that they're always fair, but they do make an effort. What I suggested Xeno check on, of course, was a fact, not an opinion: Did Robin make any demands in his final post, as Barry claims? It's pretty easy to tell; you just have to read the post in question (for which I provided a link). Xeno appears to think it's perfectly OK for Barry to tell outrageous falsehoods and deliver wildly distorted opinions not based on fact but on his own hostile fantasies. But Xeno went to some trouble to look up a quote from a post of Barry's that I had accidentally misidentified as being about Robin when it was about Ravi, and to make a post of his own carefully pointing out the mistake. What's wrong with this picture? Why does Xeno feel compelled to defend Barry's misstatements while ostentatiously pointing out one of my rare errors? Xeno, if he's honest with himself, knows Barry's portrayals of Robin, Ann, and me do not accord with the reality. It really isn't the case that one opinion has the same value as any other, not in the world most of us live in. And it most certainly is the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I would say Barry's memory is exceptionally pliable, all right, but on a scale of 1 to 10, that pliability is at least a 9, while that of most people here--even Xeno's--is quite a few points lower. What accounts for the difference? And why, pray tell, should Barry get a pass for exploiting that pliability--especially with regard to people he doesn't like--because he enjoys starting fires by saying things that aren't so and likes to bask in the heat? How is this acceptable behavior, to deliberately slander people? Xeno claims to live in a different world than the rest of us--one in which everyday values like honesty don't count--but he seems to want to participate in our world as well while importing his own value-free outlook in his commentaries with regard to the folks he sides with, and applying everyday values to those he doesn't like. That strikes me as pretty shoddy behavior. Such double standards are hypocritical, to say the least, in the world most of us here live in. Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama chants the Green Tara mantra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPkbeA2hbnc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPkbeA2hbnc
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
You know what Judy. Your response here seems pretty balanced to me. Like it didn't have an inordinate amount of meanness. That's kind of nice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Do you not know what come-on means? Look it up. Stevie, you practically solicit putdowns with your non sequiturs and inability, or unwillingness, to say anything relevant. You have no interest in actual discussion. It's not possible to have an intelligent discussion with you. There are any number of things we could have talked about in this exchange, but you've ignored them all and just made (not-so) smart cracks. You make more than your share of putdowns and engage in more than your share of mind-reading (e.g., your last sentence), but none of your mind-reading has any basis; you're just shooting blanks. And you have no reason to think I've been anything but completely straightforward in this exchange. No, it doesn't give me pride to be FFL's RWC expert. Why on earth should it? I know him better than most people here and have read his posts closely because I found him very interesting. No credit to me in that regard, and why anyone should resent it, I can't imagine. As I said before, he's a complex guy with complex thought processes, and you have to tune in if you want to really get him. For me, that's been extremely rewarding, but he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine, no reason he should have been. These are all your usual come ons, and of course, put downs. Prolonged discussions with you rarely result in any benefit, and often devolve into your mind reading abilities. But I guess it must give you pride to be the self appointed RWC expert. Something to hang your hat on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Of course you're not going to bother to sort out the details of what I wrote. You're in too deep a hole to even see over the edge. Apparently his intent was not at all clear to you. His overall objective was neither to write posts for posterity, nor to set the record straight, or whatever other silly fantasies you may be entertaining. Ann and I have both explained to you what his intent actually was. If you believe Barry's version, you're a bigger tool than I thought. Oh, and no dodging by me in this discussion. It's you who've been dodging, as you do in this post. Judy, I'm gonna guess that you excelled in dodge ball as a grade schooler. I'm not going to bother to sort out the details of what you are saying here. I think the broad outlines of Robin's posts are pretty clear. Now within the broad outlines you can create any tale you like, but what he posted, the lengths of his posts, and his overall objectives, stand on their own. I'm not sayin they make sense. Hell No!. But other than that, the technical aspects and the intent I think are clear. BTW, they do have dodge ball leagues for adults. Whether or not they have one for seniors, I couldn't say. But I'd love to join one too. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't anything Robin wanted to set straight. You made that up. And he never wrote a single post anywhere near as long as 12,000 words. What was 12,000 words, in this case, was the total of the four posts he linked to (I'm taking Barry's word for this, which may be foolish on my part) in his last post, which was only 313 words. Your response is, once again, a bunch of non sequiturs. I'm the only person to whom what made sense? And your next-to-last sentence makes no sense at all. Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got in person. That's as good a theory as any. Fairfieldlife@..., authfriend@... wrote: I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near that long. He wrote his posts for many different reasons. A few you could say were to set the record straight when someone had misrepresented or misunderstood him, but by no means all or even most or even many. Stevie, you were bragging about having access to Classic search. Your memory is so poor, you really need to check what someone said before you write about
[FairfieldLife] Refined Sugar for Refined Consciousness
Sugar, syrup courtroom fight reveals inner workings By SUSAN SALISBURY Cox Newspapers February 12, 2014 WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Sugar and high-fructose corn syrup are the top sweeteners when it comes to satisfying American’s sweet tooth, but an ongoing court battle between the two industries is filled with tart allegations about money trails and smear campaigns. More than 700,000 pages of recently released, previously confidential documents obtained by The Palm Beach Post provide an inside look at both industries. They’ve come to light during proceedings in a federal lawsuit filed in 2011 in Los Angeles by the sugar industry against high-fructose corn syrup producers alleging misleading advertising. Led by the Western Sugar Cooperative, the sugar companies alleged that the Corn Refiners Association and its agribusiness members such as Archer-Daniels-Midland, Cargill Inc., and Tate Lyle ran a deceptive $50 million ad campaign called “Sweet Surprise.” The campaign that began in 2008 told consumers that “sugar is sugar” and that “your body cannot tell the difference between sugar and high-fructose corn syrup.” A pre-trial hearing is set for November, but no trial date has been scheduled. The sugar industry was especially outraged by the high-fructose corn syrup industry asking the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to change HFCS’s name to “corn sugar.” The FDA denied that petition in May 2012, saying that corn sugar is a term used for dextrose for more than 30 years and that consumers would be confused by a liquid product being called sugar. In September 2012 the HFCS industry filed a counter-suit alleging that the sugar folks waged “a spin and smear conspiracy” against HFCS that began as early as 2003. Its goal was to persuade consumers that HFCS was not natural and should be avoided and that sugar-containing products are superior. The documents, such as memos from The Sugar Association’s executive director Andy Briscoe to its board, make it clear that the fight for market share is a big one and both sides are seeking to influence Americans’ eating habits. The sugar industry’s attorneys assert in court filings that the corn refiners are trying to conceal information from the public. For example, they allege that corn refiners have paid researchers Dr. James Rippe and John S. White more than $10 million to advocate on their behalf. The corn refiners counter that in a Dec. 20 filing: “If anything, it is the plaintiffs who have engaged in a spin-and-smear conspiracy to scare the public into consuming sugar over HFCS.” They point to internal Sugar Association memos in which officials admitted a study about HFCS in soft drinks was flawed, but then used it and other discredited studies to publicly attack HFCS. White and Rippe have never hidden their connection to the Corn Refiners Association, CRA attorneys state in court filings. Among the documents now public is a Sept. 13, 2004, memo from sugar’s Briscoe to its board. It states that in October 2003 the board approved as its No. 1 objective the replacement of high-fructose corn syrup with sugar in the food and beverage industry. That same memo also states, “We are not doing research to denigrate HFCS, but are doing research to verify the nutritional safety of sugar.” Revealing from the corn refiners is an email with the subject line “Marketing Ploy.” Archer-Daniels-Midland spokesman David Weintraub wrote, “I think we’re unnecessarily asking for trouble by using the ‘natural’ language.” A few months later in another email, he called the name change “dishonest and sneaky.” What’s at stake? A $77 billion global industry of which each wants to control as large a share as possible. Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2014/02/12/3262842/sugar-syrup-courtroom-fight-reveals.html#storylink=cpy
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ultimate Techno Tracks
You can start a garage band - just hook up a Moog Synthesizer to your computer and you have a complete DAW. It's not complicated. [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] First, we installed the free Audacity software on our computer. Then, we bought a microphone from the Shack. So, we hooked up our Yamaha keyboard with the synth. You can also get yourself an outboard unit like an Mbox or Motu that comes with Pro Tools. Always try to use audiophile-grade components and MIDI and XLR connections which deliver a signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) of 114dB. [image: Inline image 3] [image: Inline image 4] Daphne Oram - inventor of the first portable synthesizer http://www.mixmag.net/words/news/history-of-electronic-music-exhibition-opens-2013 Example of electronic music: *Give It Up* - The Goodmen - *Batacuda Refreshcante* - Platinum on Black Vol 1 Track 5 http://youtu.be/B6qzwSxhezk Notes: Audacity is a free and open-source digital audio editor that can run on Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, and Linux; it is particularly popular in the podcast community, and also has a large following among the visually impaired due to its keyboard interface. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity_%28audio_editor%29 GarageBand is a software application for OS X and iOS that allows users to create music or podcasts. It is developed by Apple Inc. as a part of the iLife software package on OS X. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GarageBand A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic system designed solely or primarily for recording, editing and playing back digital audio. DAWs were originally tape-less, microprocessor-based systems such as the Synclavier. Modern DAWs are software running on computers with audio interface hardware. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Get ready for a techno tribal beat stomp! [image: Inline image 1] This tribal beat stomp with DJ Danny Tenaglia is legendary - a homage to the original Sound Factory on West 27th St in New York City. Picture a thousand improvisational dancers going wild on a dance floor getting sweaty and raw; in a huge dark warehouse with nothing but a big dance floor; an awesome sound system; a huge mirror ball; and a health juice bar. It just doesn't get any better than this - work it! Mix This Pussy - Danny Tenaglia Mix - 1994 http://youtu.be/4iNFfErYMLU [image: Inline image 2] On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Tribal Dance Night at the Techno Club It's techno DJ night at the Armadillo World Headquarters in Austin - three thousand hardcore techno fans crowd a city-club celebrating the re-birth of genuine techno. On Friday nights techno addicts from all over the Midwest unite to indulge in their favorite techno dance tunes. Bursting onto the dance hall at 9:00 pm with the DJs who set the dance floor on fire with a sea of sweat and body energies writhing and swaying in a dance frenzy until the sun comes up. If you're not going to dance, why did you come to the dance party? [image: Inline image 2] The Official Techno Club Compilation Vol 2 (CD1) Tribal Sundown - (Babmix) - Club http://youtu.be/MovNmpKBixI [image: Inline image 1] 'How to DJ Right: The Art and Science of Playing Records' by Frank Broughton Grove Press, 2003 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: One Dove [image: Inline image 1] One Dove - White Love (Psychic Masterbation) http://youtu.be/pqIsWexYD74 White Love - One Dove - Video http://youtu.be/5Z_hcAQz1Rw One Dove was a Scottish alternative dance music group active in the early 1990s, consisting of Dot Allison, Ian Carmichael and Jim McKinven. One Dove: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Dove On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: [image: Inline image 1] Force Legato - System - Techno Trax Vol.1 - 1991 http://youtu.be/FSy-VInn2DM On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Mortin Subotnick We recently went to see Morton Subotnick in San Antonio celebrating his 80th birthday with a residency and performance Feb. 21-23 at the Urban 15, 2500 S Presa St. We've been fans of Subotnick since we met him in San Francisco at the Art Academy. I didn't know you were into elctronic music. Me, I'm into Industrial Techno EDM - electronic dance music. It's weird to call electronic music bleep music, but before the digital age of the MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface). Go figure. [image: Inline image 3] Morton Subotnick at Urban 15. Morton Subotnick is an American composer of electronic music, best known for his Silver Apples of the Moon, the first electronic work commissioned by a record company, Nonesuch. He was one of the founding members of California Institute of the Arts where he taught for many years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Refined Sugar for Refined Consciousness
Much of the food industry doesn't care if they kill you as long as they can make a dime (or a few billion). I've been noticing that some products that listed HFCS first as a sweetener have dropped it to second after sugar if not eliminating it altogether. The HFCS want to make money off what was usually a waste product. Greedy bastards. On 02/12/2014 06:45 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Sugar, syrup courtroom fight reveals inner workings By SUSAN SALISBURY Cox Newspapers February 12, 2014 WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Sugar and high-fructose corn syrup are the top sweeteners when it comes to satisfying American’s sweet tooth, but an ongoing court battle between the two industries is filled with tart allegations about money trails and smear campaigns. More than 700,000 pages of recently released, previously confidential documents obtained by The Palm Beach Post provide an inside look at both industries. They’ve come to light during proceedings in a federal lawsuit filed in 2011 in Los Angeles by the sugar industry against high-fructose corn syrup producers alleging misleading advertising. Led by the Western Sugar Cooperative, the sugar companies alleged that the Corn Refiners Association and its agribusiness members such as Archer-Daniels-Midland, Cargill Inc., and Tate Lyle ran a deceptive $50 million ad campaign called “Sweet Surprise.” The campaign that began in 2008 told consumers that “sugar is sugar” and that “your body cannot tell the difference between sugar and high-fructose corn syrup.” A pre-trial hearing is set for November, but no trial date has been scheduled. The sugar industry was especially outraged by the high-fructose corn syrup industry asking the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to change HFCS’s name to “corn sugar.” The FDA denied that petition in May 2012, saying that corn sugar is a term used for dextrose for more than 30 years and that consumers would be confused by a liquid product being called sugar. In September 2012 the HFCS industry filed a counter-suit alleging that the sugar folks waged “a spin and smear conspiracy” against HFCS that began as early as 2003. Its goal was to persuade consumers that HFCS was not natural and should be avoided and that sugar-containing products are superior. The documents, such as memos from The Sugar Association’s executive director Andy Briscoe to its board, make it clear that the fight for market share is a big one and both sides are seeking to influence Americans’ eating habits. The sugar industry’s attorneys assert in court filings that the corn refiners are trying to conceal information from the public. For example, they allege that corn refiners have paid researchers Dr. James Rippe and John S. White more than $10 million to advocate on their behalf. The corn refiners counter that in a Dec. 20 filing: “If anything, it is the plaintiffs who have engaged in a spin-and-smear conspiracy to scare the public into consuming sugar over HFCS.” They point to internal Sugar Association memos in which officials admitted a study about HFCS in soft drinks was flawed, but then used it and other discredited studies to publicly attack HFCS. White and Rippe have never hidden their connection to the Corn Refiners Association, CRA attorneys state in court filings. Among the documents now public is a Sept. 13, 2004, memo from sugar’s Briscoe to its board. It states that in October 2003 the board approved as its No. 1 objective the replacement of high-fructose corn syrup with sugar in the food and beverage industry. That same memo also states, “We are not doing research to denigrate HFCS, but are doing research to verify the nutritional safety of sugar.” Revealing from the corn refiners is an email with the subject line “Marketing Ploy.” Archer-Daniels-Midland spokesman David Weintraub wrote, “I think we’re unnecessarily asking for trouble by using the ‘natural’ language.” A few months later in another email, he called the name change “dishonest and sneaky.” What’s at stake? A $77 billion global industry of which each wants to control as large a share as possible. Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2014/02/12/3262842/sugar-syrup-courtroom-fight-reveals.html#storylink=cpy
[FairfieldLife] Museum of Purgatory
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now Playing
Best known for her 1977 country-pop crossover hit song, Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue, she accumulated 20 number one country hits during the 1970s and 1980s (18 on Billboard and 2 on Cashbox) with six albums certified Gold by the RIAA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Gayle Too Many Lovers (Not enough love) http://youtu.be/W0EQlXG2q3s [image: Inline image 1] Crystal Gayle's Greatest Hits (1983) http://youtu.be/30b-UKwYCRE On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The dB's - Wake up,that time is gone. [image: Inline image 1] That Time Is Gone - Peter Holsapple, vocals and guitar http://youtu.be/f9CwLD1Yrvo Recorded live in 2012 in Austin, Texas at Threadgill's during the Music Fog Marathon. When Rita was living in San Diego the guitarist in this video, Peter Holsapple, was her boyfriends roommate. It was great meeting up with him again in Austin. An amazing reunion from the old days in California! MusicFog review: http://musicfog.com/home/2012/6/12/the-dbs-that-time-is-gone.html On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Now playing: Get ready for a tribal beat stomp dance down at the Techno Club with DJ Pseudo Buddha. Work it! [image: Inline image 1] How Ya Doin? Factory Mix - Beat Your Meat (Move Your Body 2) 1994 http://youtu.be/edSWATUnxwc On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: One Dove [image: Inline image 1] One Dove - White Love (Psychic Masterbation) - from Platinum on Black Vol 1 http://youtu.be/pqIsWexYD74 White Love - One Dove - Video http://youtu.be/5Z_hcAQz1Rw One Dove was a Scottish alternative dance music group active in the early 1990s, consisting of Dot Allison, Ian Carmichael and Jim McKinven. One Dove: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Dove On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: The Jim Cullum Jazz Band [image: Inline image 1] We saw this band a few years ago and we listen to them on PRI every week. So, we decided to see them again soon. This is going to be a very busy time for music lovers around here what with the San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo followed by South by Southwest (SxSW) the music and film festival in Austin (Rodriquez will probably be there and Linklater too). In this video the Jim Cullum Jazz Band is joined by David Jellema when they performed at the historic Pearl Brewery in San Antonio Texas, for the public radio series Riverwalk Jazz in October 2009: Clarinet Marmalade http://youtu.be/z4RWkTrU2d8 Jim Cullum Jazz Band Boardwalk Bistro 7:30pm -- 10:30pm Friday February 7, 2014 4011 Broadway, San Antonio http://riverwalkjazz.org/ http://www.pri.org/programs/riverwalk-jazz The Jim Cullum Jazz Band is an acoustic seven-piece traditional jazz ensemble led by cornetist Jim Cullum, Jr.. Since 1989, the band has been featured nationally on their own weekly public radio series Riverwalk Jazz. The band performs live Tuesday through Saturday at the Landing Jazz Club on the Riverwalk in San Antonio, Texas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cullum_Jazz_Band On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The dB's [image: Inline image 1] That Time Is Gone - Peter Holsapple, vocals and guitar http://youtu.be/f9CwLD1Yrvo Recorded live in 2012 in Austin, Texas at Threadgill's during the Music Fog Marathon. When Rita was living in San Diego the guitarist in this video, Peter Holsapple, was her boyfriends roommate. It was great meeting up with him again in Austin. An amazing reunion from the old days in California! MusicFog review: http://musicfog.com/home/2012/6/12/the-dbs-that-time-is-gone.html On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Orianthi [image: Inline image 3] Orienthe with Carls Santana Orianthi Panagaris, better known by her mononym Orianthi, is an Australian musician, singer-songwriter and guitarist. Orianthi was named one of the 12 Greatest Female Electric Guitarists by Elle magazine.[3] She also won the award as Breakthrough Guitarist of the Year 2010 by Guitar International magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orianthi Voodoo Child http://youtu.be/mK6tcgsKgps According to You http://youtu.be/Pu1aQvm5MrU Highly Strung - with Steve Vai - Video http://youtu.be/G7b-_YcACuQ Heaven In This Hell - Video http://youtu.be/2kMXxDkqD6I [image: Inline image 2] Guitar World Magazine: http://www.guitarworld.com/orianthi Anyone who can write, sing, and produce an album they play nearly all the instruments on is someone special, especially someone only 20 years old when it all happened! When Rita was in Adelaide in 2004 she got her CD signed by Orienthe. Sweet! [image: Inline image 1] Violet Journey Orianthi Interview at musicasa:: http://www.musicsa.com.au/artists/orianthi/ On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Richard Williams
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Never miss a good chance to shut up. - Will Rogers On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still alive? (-: Long dead, Share: On August 15, 1935, Rogers was on a flight to Asia with the famous pilot Wiley Post when the craft developed engine troubles and crashed near Point Barrow, Alaska http://www.history.com/topics/alaska. The crash killed both men. Rogers was only 55. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. - Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfriend@... wrote: So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe you've responded to that question. Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists
James Burton [image: Inline image 1] James Burton backing Roy Orbison - Black White Night Concert Roy Orbison performs Oh, Pretty Woman as the finale of the concert. Backed by James Burton, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis Costello, Glen D. Hardin, Tom Waits, kd lang, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt, JD Souther, T Bone Burnett, Steven Soles, and Jennifer Warnes. Recorded September 30, 1987. Roy Orbison - Oh, Pretty Woman (from Black White Night) http://youtu.be/_PLq0_7k1jk American guitarist. A member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame since 2001[2] (his induction speech was given by longtime fan Keith Richards), Burton has also been recognized by the Rockabilly Hall of Fame and the Musicians Hall of Fame and Museum. His primary guitar has always been a Fender Telecaster. [image: Inline image 3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Burton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Burton_Telecaster On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Bonnie Raitt [image: Inline image 1] Bonnie Raitt plays Austin City Limits in 2002, photo Scott Newton http://www.glidemagazine.com/bonnie-raitt-mavis-staples-on-austin-city-limits/http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/televised-tune-bonnie-raitt-mavis-staples-on-austin-city-limits/ Bonnie Raitt on Austin City Limits http://youtu.be/XK7bvVpkYmI Bonnie Lynn Raitt is an American blues singer-songwriter and slide guitar player. Raitt has received ten Grammy Awards. She is listed as number 50 in Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 100 Greatest Singers of All Time[1] and number 89 on their list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Raitt http://www.guitargirlmag.com/artist-bios/bonnie-raitthttp://www.guitargirlmag.com/artist-bios/bonnie-raitt--the-making-of-her-new-album-slipstr I Can't Make You Love Me - with Bruce Hornsby Live http://youtu.be/KgtfInCjWCE Nick of Time - Video HD http://youtu.be/es60unGCGKw [image: Inline image 3] Nick of Time Released in the spring of 1989, Nick of Time went to the top of the U.S. charts following Raitt's Grammy sweep in early 1990. This album has been voted number 230 in the Rolling Stone magazine list of 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time. Something to Talk About - Video HD http://youtu.be/mJ58TVYNFro Thing Called Love - Video HD http://youtu.be/krF6LpUXODc Runaway - Live 1997 http://youtu.be/HPzcZNgVfpA Love Sneakin' Up on You - Live http://youtu.be/ZiDG985CccA On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Powerful stuff - that's what I'm talkin' about! Powerful Stuff - Jimmie Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds http://youtu.be/CaEHFxlmf-k From the album, 'Powerful Stuff' http://youtu.be/Ow-e4QQBKoY Live in Dallas Texas 1986 http://youtu.be/JC4geMPc6pA Wrap it up - Jimmie Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds http://youtu.be/51270i8F3mU Tell Me Live from Austin Nov. 26th 1986 http://youtu.be/-vxDjjTiqyY The Fabulous Thunderbirds are: Jimmie Vaughan Lead Guitar, Kim Wilson harmonica vocal, Preston Hubbard bass, Fran Christina drums and Junior Brantley keyboards. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Jimmy Vaughan [image: Inline image 1] The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tuff Enuff, live on Austin City Limits http://youtu.be/gqc3jWtE2CY Jimmie Vaughan, brother of Stevie Ray Vaughan, has played with Eric Clapton, Robert Cray, and BB King, and many others during the 2010 Crossroads Guitar Festival. Vaughan has been awarded four Grammy Awards. The song Tuff Enuff was a Top 40 hit, peaking at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1986. Since 1997 Fender has produced a Jimmie Vaughan Tex-Mex Stratocaster. One of my favorite albums: Powerful Stuff, 1989. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Vaughan The Fabulous Thunderbirds: On the evening of February 16, 2000, The Fabulous Thunderbirds made history, becoming the first band ever to be broadcast on the Internet using high-definition cameras. The band's first four albums, released between 1979 and 1983, are ranked among the most important 'white blues' recordings. There have been numerous personel changes in the band; the band started out in 1976 with Kim Wilson performing vocals and harmonica; Jimmie Vaughan on guitar; Keith Ferguson on bass; and Mike Buck and Fran Christina on drums. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabulous_Thunderbirds Jimmie Vaughan loves classic and custom cars, and is an avid car collector. Vaughan has had many of his customs and hot rods displayed in museums, as well as featured in rodding and custom magazines. Read more: Street Rodder Magazine January 1985 p. 55 Rod Custom Magazine April 2000 pp. 88-91 On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Oh, yeah! The Elevators, with Roky Erikson and jug player Tommy Hall, who used to play at the old Vulcan Gas
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
On 2/12/2014 8:00 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: And so, it is sort of jarring when someone like Judy takes everything so seriously and personally. Nothing posted here should be taken seriously. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
I like to think of this place as if we are sitting around a table at Starbucks. First off, most folks at the table wouldn't get so wound up on assertions because they would know the asserter is just kidding them. And we would hope that before someone replied they didn't say, just a minute as they looked up something online on their phone or tablet. That would be a really bogged down conversation, hmm. :-D On 02/12/2014 07:39 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: I like to think of this place as if we are sitting around a table at Starbucks. First off, most folks at the table wouldn't get so wound up on assertions because they would know the asserter is just kidding them. And we would hope that before someone replied they didn't say, just a minute as they looked up something online on their phone or tablet. That would be a really bogged down conversation, hmm. :-D I would like to think if we were all sitting at Starbucks together we would have enough respect for each other that we would be willing to reveal enough of what is real and true about ourselves in a way that does not infringe, compromise or inappropriately offend others. It would also be nice to think that the parameters that bind us when we are together in person are not different from how we would conduct ourselves online. Many times I feel some take liberties via internet forums that they would not so readily adopt in person. Or, at least, I certainly hope they wouldn't adopt in 3D because some here need to learn some real manners. In the real world some people here would remain friendless and wouldn't be invited a second time to the gathering at Starbucks. On 02/12/2014 07:39 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote: Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain category of his posting that is designed to keep the rats running on their treadmill, a Pavlovian thing. So checking on Barry's claims is largely a waste of time as he is proffering opinions, not facts, and is stoking the campfire so he can bask in the heat generated. He has to deal with certain factual material if he is writing about science for clients. If there other places in his life for such concepts as facts and truth, it probably is not here on FFL. This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be?
