Re: [FjordIssues] Help me help Fjord Horses!
This message is from: Alice MacGillivray al...@4km.net Done. I presume you will post on Fjord Facebook groups as well. Iâm on several including Norwegian Fjord Horse, Fjord Horses for Sale, Fjord Horses for sale in Canada, Fjord Horses, Vancouver Island Fjord Fanciers and more. I just posted your request on my book site: Riding Horseback in Purple: https://www.facebook.com/ridinghorsebackinpurple https://www.facebook.com/ridinghorsebackinpurple Alice MacGillivray I am asking you to help us win a Small Business Contest: https://www.smallbusinessbiggame.com/contests/sbbg/entries/5912 https://www.smallbusinessbiggame.com/contests/sbbg/entries/5912 Cynthia Madden Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
need help with a foundering mare
This message is from: Janet ja...@tamaracksheep.com help, it appears one of my mares is foundering. I switched from pasture to hay 2 weeks ago, and found her severely lame this morning. All four seem to hurt but especially one front and one rear. I have her soaking in cold water and gave her 3 grams of bute. Is a vet call worth while? or are they just going to confirm founder and administer bute? Janet Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: need help with a foundering mare
This message is from: Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net Founder can be a very serious, life threatening problem! If your horse is severely lame as you describe, especially if she is showing lameness in all four feet, I would call the vet immediately to determine the extent of the damage and to address the symptoms asap. Beth -- Original Message -- Received: 01:17 PM MDT, 09/28/2014 From: Janet ja...@tamaracksheep.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: need help with a foundering mare This message is from: Janet ja...@tamaracksheep.com help, it appears one of my mares is foundering. I switched from pasture to hay 2 weeks ago, and found her severely lame this morning. All four seem to hurt but especially one front and one rear. I have her soaking in cold water and gave her 3 grams of bute. Is a vet call worth while? or are they just going to confirm founder and administer bute? Janet Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: need help with a foundering mare
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com I second Beth's assessment...vet asap they can help sooner w/ IV's and hopefully you have a vet with digital X ray capabilities. I wish you and your mare well... Sent from my HTC One⢠X, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone - Reply message - From: Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: need help with a foundering mare Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 1:20 PM This message is from: Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net Founder can be a very serious, life threatening problem! If your horse is severely lame as you describe, especially if she is showing lameness in all four feet, I would call the vet immediately to determine the extent of the damage and to address the symptoms asap. Beth -- Original Message -- Received: 01:17 PM MDT, 09/28/2014 From: Janet ja...@tamaracksheep.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: need help with a foundering mare This message is from: Janet ja...@tamaracksheep.com help, it appears one of my mares is foundering. I switched from pasture to hay 2 weeks ago, and found her severely lame this morning. All four seem to hurt but especially one front and one rear. I have her soaking in cold water and gave her 3 grams of bute. Is a vet call worth while? or are they just going to confirm founder and administer bute? Janet Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: New Video Project--Need your help
This message is from: Cindy B Giovanetti cin...@ipi.org As head of the Education Committee for the NFHR, I am about to start a video on What Every New Fjord Owner Should Know. I would like suggestions from all of you for what to include. Mane trimming will be included, but only briefly as it has been done to death. Once I have gathered all the ideas, I'd like to ask NFHR members from around the country to video small segments on each topic and send them to me. They will then be compiled into a single YouTube video, have NFHR logos and titles, music, etc, added and I hope we'll have a useful resource for Fjord newbies. Ardeth, I am going through some old e-mails, and I came across this. If it's not too late to provide an idea or three . . . 1. Saddle fitting. 2. Feeding them as easy keepers. Obesity management. 3. Dealing with pushiness. 4. The idea that though they are sweet, they are still horses, still require training and appropriate precautions. 5. The the Association does not allow cross breeding. 6. The different colors. 7. Can they canter? Can they jump? 8. Are they ponies? 9. Are they strong enough to carry a full-sized adult? 10. How rare are they? Are they endangered? 11. Can you show them? Are there Fjord shows? 12. Can you keep them in hot climates? Should you clip them in the summer? Blanket them in the winter? 13. The searchable website. Very helpful. Cindy Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
New Video Project--Need your help
This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf laz...@united.net As head of the Education Committee for the NFHR, I am about to start a video on What Every New Fjord Owner Should Know. I would like suggestions from all of you for what to include. Mane trimming will be included, but only briefly as it has been done to death. Once I have gathered all the ideas, I'd like to ask NFHR members from around the country to video small segments on each topic and send them to me. They will then be compiled into a single YouTube video, have NFHR logos and titles, music, etc, added and I hope we'll have a useful resource for Fjord newbies. Please respond here, if you wish, group discussion is always a help or to me directly at ard...@nfhr.com Thanks for your help in advance. Ardeth Obenauf The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
How to help Kim her boy's
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Dear Fjord friends, Recently you might have read about Kim Manzonis two geldings, her Fjord Titan and Comanche (a cute Appy or Quarter horse cross?), becoming gravely ill after a neighboring chicken facility cleaned out their barns. The horses likely inhaled some awful stuff and had to be hospitalized for over 5 days. While she still doesnt have all the tests back, and may never know the reason for their illness, thankfully, both geldings were released from the vet and are now at home and making a recovery. I also learned from Kim that she and her husband are in the midst of a financial rough patch, and having to deal with a $6,500. vet bill on top of that is overwhelmingly stressful to them right now, to say the least. We are a real community of horse people throughout the US and beyond sharing in common a love for the Fjord breed. Now, as part of that community I think we could each step up and help by each donating a small sum to assist Kim in paying for some of the medical expenses for her boys. If you want to donate, you have several ways: Paypal If you use Paypal you can pay her by entering her email address: kim.manzoni@yahoo.comAt https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/77x3/kim-s-boy-s-vet-fund This is a secure site and you pay via credit card. If you would rather pay by check, please send to Kim's address - it can be found on the NFHR pedigree site. If you have any questions, please let me know how I can help. And if you use FaceBook, please help get the word out share this info with your friends.Tusen takk! Karen :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Fjord Relo Help Wanted
This message is from: S Sexton ssext...@hotmail.com Hi All,Well, I drove down to San Antonio area Saturday and have been staying with family here. The weather has been lovely (as compared to southern kansas) but the locals keep commenting that it is cool or cold, or chilly. It's been close if not 60 degrees down here. Oh to suffer so in winter :) LOL I have found the rocky geological issue to be a bummer as I also like to garden and I can imagine the hassles there and also the issues when trying to set fence posts. For those unfamiliar, there are areas where the rock is right up to the surface if not just beneat a few inches of dirt here - very common in this swath where I am now. It means they don't have basements, they have flash flood/runoff issues and the gardening/fence post, etc type issues. I am headed to the Waco area to stay over with a friend for a day or so, probably around Wednesday. I'm told it isn't as rocky up there (about 3 hrs north roughly) and it shouldn't be too much colder overall, maybe 5-10 degrees depending on elevation and such. I'm considering a trip to Phoenix to see family there next, but I do think I'd miss the green grass eventually. I know they irrigate some and they can water for yards/lawns, but I just love the sight of a vast green pasture rolling along as far as the eye can see... maybe I have to suffer more winter to have that, dunno. Wichita is looking better and better some days, ha ha. Cheers,Stephanie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjord Relo Help Wanted
This message is from: kelly ke...@landsdrop.com Since you have family in the San Antonio area, you probably already know some about it. I live outside San Antonio (Bandera) and commute in for work. You can pretty much ride all winter here, and spring and fall are lovely. The middle of summer is bad, but I see similar temperatures all over the country. Most people just ride early in the morning or under lights in the evening. There are a number of state parks in the area that allow horses, so there are several public options for trail riding. There are some dressage/eventing barns around, though the western disciplines are more prevalent. Cost of living is low compared to many other places. Cost of horse-keeping depends upon the weather. Hay prices are pretty high right now, but for one horse, it is manageable. I bought my fjord a few years ago in Michigan and she's acclimated pretty well. On New Year's Day, they're having an event out at the Hill Country State Natural Area - a 5,500 acre park - the Cowgirl Round-up and Show-deo. This year they're having a parade of horse breeds and I'll be taking my fjord and my percheron out there. They usually have between 60 - 80 horsewomen show up for a big panoramic picture. Good luck, whatever choice you make! --Kelly (and Fjord Annie) On 12/27/2012 9:11 PM, S Sexton wrote: San Antonio, TX - supposed to have a good variety of boarding options and variety of riding styles too. too far south for tornadoes, rain from hurricanes but not a direct hit area, humid summers, mild winters, average cost of living, good healthcare and i have family in the area. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjord Relo Help Wanted
This message is from: S Sexton ssext...@hotmail.com Hi All,I'm considering relocating somewhere warmer in winter in the next year or two and I'm looking for input. I currently live in Wichita, Kansas which is the best climate Kansas has to offer, but winter is still a bit chilly and has been rather aggravating to my joint issues this year. I've narrowed it somewhat to my top 3 areas of the US to move to with the understanding that they ALL have HOT HOT HOT summers. But, we have hot summers in Kansas and they did in Iowa when I grew up there too, so I think it's more an issue of managing myself out of the cold and then dealing with the hot by riding in the morning/evening and such. But with the cold, it needs to get above 40 for me to even think about being able to ride outside and the closer to 50 and 60, the better off I am. I've been learning what my threshold is and I can tell you - an hour outside at 28 with a breeze and moving/walking (not riding, we were at the dog park) is not an option for me - my joints all froze up and said Nuh Uh lady!!! So, top 3 are - Aiken, SC -supposed to be very horsey with lots of parks and trails to use and numerous barns for boarding and a variety of riding styles. tornadoes some, rain from hurricanes but not a direct hit area?? and humid summers. great mild winters, reasonable cost of living, etc. San Antonio, TX - but more specifically the north of it area around New Braunfels, Seguin, San Marcos and the like. supposed to have a good variety of boarding options and variety of riding styles too. too far south for tornadoes, rain from hurricanes but not a direct hit area, humid summers, mild winters, average cost of living, good healthcare and i have family in the area. Phoenix, AZ - but more likely out a bit in some smaller surrounding towns. the low humidity, great winters, hot but dry summers (low humidity then too), no tornadoes or hurricanes just sand storms, average cost of living, horsekeeping might be more expensive due to having to truck in all that hay???, good healthcare and i have family in the area. Sparrow and I have been trying to figure out just WHAT my riding discipline really is but overall it's a bit of everything. I ride english and western, love a good trail ride, like to jump a bit (hunter not jumper), Sparrow has dressage down pat and I'm trying to catch up, we're going to try eventing this spring for a bit - oh but I'm not into saddleseat. Any ideas, anyone have a Fjord in any of these areas with good advice for us? I realize she and I can both adapt to anywhere, but am I forgetting issues or concerns in horsekeeping? I want to find the best place to land and put down some roots! Cheers Happy New Year, Stephanie SparrowKansas www.sextonstables.com/mares.html Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Madrid Spain Trip........(HELP)...........Alan Zohner
This message is from: Jo Wilgus rjrfj...@verizon.net SPAM dang it! --- Original Message - From: Alan Zohner alzid...@yahoo.com To: undisclosed recipients: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:07 AM Subject: Madrid Spain Trip(HELP)...Alan Zohner This message is from: Alan Zohner alzid...@yahoo.com Hello, I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came down here to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation and we were mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel where we lodged,all cash and credit card were stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us... We've been to the Embassy and the Police here,but they're not helping issues at all they asked us to wait for 3weeks but we can't wait till then and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills,we are freaked out at the moment...Well I really need your financially assistance...Please let me know if you can help us out,Write me back so i can tell you how to get it to me Alan Zohner alzid...@yahoo.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com That is so frightening. Has she used a psyllium product w/them to routinely remove sand? A lot of the ones marketed for horses do not work well, my vet I have tested them out in glasses of water, they clump up not gel like supposed to. When mine were on a dry lot I sanded them monthly. We've been on a grass pasture the past couple years and I haven't been doing it but now I'm worried I should. I am in FL so there is sand no matter where you are. So sorry for her loss. -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting Professional Pet Care In Your Home! http://www.pookiebros.com On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:23 PM, mail.bevcomm.net wrote: This message is from: mail.bevcomm.net afjordableac...@bevcomm.net I had a client who's been battling with sand colic for years. I actually said when I started working for this person that she's gonna have horses with sand in their guts. You see she has a paddock that she feeds in when the horses come in at night, thus they ingest sand while cleaning up the little bits lost from the feed pans. Sadly she thought she was doing a good thing filling her paddock with sand so that it didn't get so mucky. It is finally caught up with her and the horses and we lost one last night, the necropsy reviled approximately 50 lbs. of sand in Bensons gut. Now she has another horse out for training and is afraid to bring her home when the time comes. The question is any ideas how to address the sand issue out side of completely digging out the sand? It's been suggested to till in some clay to make it pack down more and less likely to be eaten. I'm at a loss all I can think of right now is dig the crap out keep the horses off it! Roberta MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: Jo Wilgus rjrfj...@verizon.net The question is any ideas how to address the sand issue out side of completely digging out the sand? ~~` Duffers seems to colic each year around sept or oct. i feel it is due to weather changes which cause him to drink less. Each year we add a new solution. This year we will start adding mineral oil to his food each day for about 2.5 months. Vet suggested giving it a try. We are firm doers on the psyllium each month, we feed out of feeders and we have mats. This year we are also making sure we work him more to keep him moving , keep everything moving. I have had suggestions given, i am willing to try them. My neighbor gives her horses a gallon of gatorade a day. I have Gatorade on hand too. My feeling is some horses are more prone than others, why? no idea. Mats are great but they get sand/dirt each footstep. You almost have to sit there with a broom. My girlfriend made her horses a feeder. It worked GREAT!! She took a LARGE tire, attached a piece of mat to bottom, fed them out of that. It seemed to work good. I may be doing some building myself. I am willing to try anything within our means for Regn and Duffers. I am sorry for the loss of any horse due to colic or anything for that matter. We can only hope for a solid solution in the future. Good luck to all. Jo Wilgus, Gavilan Hills, CA The eves have been ideal for ridingthank you God! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I'm not questioning your worming program, but could it the movement of encysted worm larvae, emerging from the intestinal wall, at that time of year? just a thought, as the experts are learning that our standard deworming programs are not really working. Just another idea to throw out there! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, rainy and cool, of course it is Fair time! ~~` Duffers seems to colic each year around sept or oct. i feel it is due to weather changes which cause him to drink less. Each year we add a new solution. This year we will start adding mineral oil to his food each day for about 2.5 months. Vet suggested giving it a try. We are firm doers on the psyllium each month, we feed out of feeders and we have mats. This year we are also making sure we work him more to keep him moving , keep everything moving. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: mail.bevcomm.net afjordableac...@bevcomm.net I had a client who's been battling with sand colic for years. I actually said when I started working for this person that she's gonna have horses with sand in their guts. You see she has a paddock that she feeds in when the horses come in at night, thus they ingest sand while cleaning up the little bits lost from the feed pans. Sadly she thought she was doing a good thing filling her paddock with sand so that it didn't get so mucky. It is finally caught up with her and the horses and we lost one last night, the necropsy reviled approximately 50 lbs. of sand in Bensons gut. Now she has another horse out for training and is afraid to bring her home when the time comes. The question is any ideas how to address the sand issue out side of completely digging out the sand? It's been suggested to till in some clay to make it pack down more and less likely to be eaten. I'm at a loss all I can think of right now is dig the crap out keep the horses off it! Roberta MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Fixed feeders (either wall or secured Rubbermaid type tubs) on top of 4' x 8' rubber mats, 2 mats (min.) per horse/feeder.. Spendy but cheaper than losing a trained, registered horse to colic/surgery. :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: From: afjordableac...@bevcomm.net To: fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com Subject: Problem need help Ideas Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:23:14 -0500 This message is from: mail.bevcomm.net afjordableac...@bevcomm.net I had a client who's been battling with sand colic for years. I actually said when I started working for this person that she's gonna have horses with sand in their guts. You see she has a paddock that she feeds in when the horses come in at night, thus they ingest sand while cleaning up the little bits lost from the feed pans. Sadly she thought she was doing a good thing filling her paddock with sand so that it didn't get so mucky. It is finally caught up with her and the horses and we lost one last night, the necropsy reviled approximately 50 lbs. of sand in Bensons gut. Now she has another horse out for training and is afraid to bring her home when the time comes. The question is any ideas how to address the sand issue out side of completely digging out the sand? It's been suggested to till in some clay to make it pack down more and less likely to be eaten. I'm at a loss all I can think of right now is dig the crap out keep the horses off it! Roberta MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: Aol sherefj...@aol.com I help a lady in the seattle area with this problem we bought some stall mates and put up some feeders and to clean her horses sand wash jell from valley vet no more problems she said Jim Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone mail.bevcomm.net afjordableac...@bevcomm.net wrote: This message is from: mail.bevcomm.net afjordableac...@bevcomm.net I had a client who's been battling with sand colic for years. I actually said when I started working for this person that she's gonna have horses with sand in their guts. You see she has a paddock that she feeds in when the horses come in at night, thus they ingest sand while cleaning up the little bits lost from the feed pans. Sadly she thought she was doing a good thing filling her paddock with sand so that it didn't get so mucky. It is finally caught up with her and the horses and we lost one last night, the necropsy reviled approximately 50 lbs. of sand in Bensons gut. Now she has another horse out for training and is afraid to bring her home when the time comes. The question is any ideas how to address the sand issue out side of completely digging out the sand? It's been suggested to till in some clay to make it pack down more and less likely to be eaten. I'm at a loss all I can think of right now is dig the crap out keep the horses off it! Roberta MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fw: CHILD HORSE SOLD SECRETLY. PLEASE HELP. ARIZONA
This message is from: ruth bushnell fjo...@frontiernet.net I received this from a reliable horse entity here in Montana, but it happened in Arizona.. Please pass it along to anyone who might have an idea for locating this boy's beloved horse. thanks, Ruthie Subject: FW: CHILD HORSE SOLD SECRETLY. PLEASE HELP. ARIZONA I'm just putting this out there to everyone, maybe your email would lead to another that would help Potlicker find her way back to her little boy!!! http://www.bridlean dbit.com/ artman/publish/ article_29612. shtml Arizona My best friend Potlicker was sold on 3/20 by my stepdad while we were away on vacation By Mar 26, 2011, 15:56 Email this article Printer friendly page Can you help us get our story out so we can find her and buy her back? He wont tell us where or who bought her. So my mom is placing ads in the local paper and posters in businesses. They are going through a divorce. I hav e totally taken care of her since I was 4yrs old and I have never complained. I am 10 yrs old now. None of us are sleeping much because we are so sad. We are using facebook too if you want to look at it my name is BEN CROSBY and my mom is LISA HINSON MCLAWS from Pima, AZ. ask to be our friend and you can see how alot of people are trying to help us. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Terrifying Ordeal - Urgent Help Needed !!!!!!!!
This message is from: Rita Mae Muller rita...@gmail.com I'm writing this with tears in my eye, my family and I came down here to Coundon Coventry, UK for a short vacation unfortunately we were mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed, all cash, credit card and cell were stolen off us at GUN POINT but luckily for us we still have our passports with us but don't have enough money to sort the bills so we can get out of here. We've been to the embassy and the police here but they're not helping issues at all and our flight leaves soon but we're having problems settling the hotel bills, and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills, I'm freaked out at the moment and wondering if you could help us with a quick loan, I promise I'll refund it once we get home. Please write me so i can send you the info for the wire of the money to save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the bills. Thanks Rita. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Thanks for help filly integration
This message is from: Tonja Acker-Richards tacke...@aol.com Thanks for the help with filly integration question. We bought my geldings Nick and Ikes mother Raspotniks Caspian and low and behold she came with a nursing filly who we will name Chamois ...for obvious reasons if you've ever felt a baby fjord or a shammy cloth. We've cycled all the boys, and the fillys half sister Tekla in one at a time with no events. Keeping them seperate herds for evenings until fall. Our hills are taking off some of the baby fat ... On the momma... too! In the discussion about thunder, stalls runouts etc I want to add hill time, roots stumps and all make for fit steady footed animals. I think there are risks to all livestock keeping methods. Even kid keeping! Tonja Acker-Richards Pond House Farm Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Please Help R.E.A.D. Program
This message is from: Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.com I know many of you had the opportunity to meet my Corgi, Clust, at the 25th celebration in Winona. At that time I may have shared with you that he is a registered therapy dog. In addition, he is a registered Reading Education Assistance Dog (R.E.A.D.). This is a program, which utilizes dogs who are registered with other recognized therapy groups to help children overcome literacy problems. The concept behind this is that many troubles that youngsters have with reading stem from feelings of inadequacy when read aloud to peers or adults. This feeling of pressure to perform sets up a negative feedback situation and the child reads worse. The Reading Assistance Dogs provide totally non-judgmental listeners for the kids to practice their reading skills, while the human team member sometimes offers help by speaking for the dog. It is a very fulfilling opportunity to help youngsters with the development of an vital life skill. The Intermoutain Therapy Animals group which provides a registry for the R.E.A.D. program has an opportunity to receive a generous grant from Better World Books. The final recipient of this grant is to be determined by a Internet popular vote. The Reading Dogs now stand in second place. I would like to ask all of you to visit the ITA Web site at http://www.therapyanimals.org/Vote.html, and follow the directions you will find there to cast a vote for this worthwhile literacy program. Please do is soon as the voting ends on January 20. Thanks in advance, Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Emergency - help needed (OT)
This message is from: Linda Lehnert lindalehn...@hotmail.com Hi, folks, I know someone who is moving from Canada to the Lake Chapala, Mexico area (near Guadalajara, Jalisco). Her SUV has broken down in Yreka, CA from pulling her cargo trailer through the mountains. She said she learned SUVs don't like pulling cargo trailers through the mountains. She is a former horse owner, but I'm not sure what breed, probably not Fjords. She is looking for someone to meet her in Yreka, CA and tow the trailer down to Nogales, AZ, then down to Lake Chapala. She will drive the trailer across the border because of the import sticker required by the Mexican government. Her SUV will be repaired by 1 December. Yreka, CA is on I-5 way north of San Francisco based on the map I found on google. I thought of contacting the List since many of you have horse trailers and tow vehicles. If someone could help her, it will give you an opportunity to visit a beautiful area of Mexico where the climate is one of the world's best. If anyone can help her or knows someone who can help, please send me an e-mail (lindalehn...@hotmail.com) and I will give you her e-mail address (I am on Central European Time 9 hours ahead of Pacific Time in the US). Thank you, mil gracias, Danke Schoen, magne tusen takk. Linda in east Germany _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soci al-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Proper Vet Manners (a little long, but I need your help)
This message is from: Big Horn Forge Daniel Nauman trap...@alexssa.net I need your help ! Yesterday, my Vet came out to give the horses and dogs their spring shots. The last few years she has had a handler with her on all her calls. I realize, from my Vet's point of view, that the handler is there to help keep her safe; and that most owners, while meaning well, can be a big hinderance. If I were a Vet, I would be on Red Alert at all times when it came to safety. So, with that said, I need your advice. My 9yo Fjord started acting up about two years ago for his shots. I believe it was the first time the handler held my horse. I asked the Vet if I could hold him for her and she basically said no, she now had a handler for that. (I know she has been injured because of well meaning owners.) The handler is rather pushy (my opinion). I became a passive observer, and more than a little irritated at how my horse was handled. I suggested that the handler (a woman also) not hold his head so tight. The horse was afraid, and I could tell, was ready to get out of Dodge. He tolerated the handling and stood very stiff. Any suggestions I had fell on deaf ears. Last year the handler remembered that my horse was hard to hold and put a chain over his nose. Things got worse. My fjord pushed past both of them and ran out into the pasture. When he saw me, he ran up to me. I collected him and returned him to the barn alley. My Vet and handler decided to give the shots in his stall, and had to use quite a bit of pressure. I protested once more and got a look that said don't to go there. Yesterday, the Vet and handler immediately put a chain over my horse's nose, pushed him up against the back wall of his stall, and went right for his rump. I thought my horse's eyes were going to jump out of his head. (I had visions of a B movie drug bust.) BIG protest on my part. I was told that the handler was there to keep my Vet safe and was just doing her job. I went into the stall, picked up on the lead rope, asked my horse for his shoulder over, and reluctantly and fearfully got it. It lasted little longer than 2 seconds. I was hoping to build on that, but that would take time, and time is what my Vet evidently didn't have. The coggins test was last. My horse stood like a gentleman, very relaxed, head lowered. He didn't seem to mind at all. The Vet was really surprised, and mentioned the behavior. After the whole ordeal, while my Vet was packing up, I asked her if their was anything I could do to help with this situation. I explained that I wanted my horse to stand on a loose lead while getting his shots. (Like in the past) My Vet said try feeding grain while he is getting vaccinated. My heart sank. I truly believe that the shots are not the issue. The handling is so rough and scares my horse so much, that pretty soon, no one will be able to get near him with a needle. I have used this Vet for 18 years, and have not had these problems in the past. Switching Vets is not really an option because of where I live. I really want to retain this Vet, and mend any problems. If anyone has any experience or advice for me on what I can do from a training point of view, or a Vet's point of view, I would love to hear it. I have decided to work with the horse and talk to my Vet about working with me when she comes to give the boosters. I'm hoping we can cooperate with each other for everyone's benefit. If my needs are ignored, I will have to find a different Vet. But, there aren't many available, and I don't want to go from one problem to another. I won't even get into talking about the other horse or the dogs. Thanks for any help you may be able to give, Toni (and Erick, her Fjord, who thinks the Vet is out to kill him) :( Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Proper Vet Manners (a little long, but I need your help)
This message is from: Martie Bolinski boli...@dol.net We have experienced similar problems with our Fjord and our new vet. She does not have a handler, but is quite brusque and rather heavy handed compared to our old, slow but sure vet. Kilar was upset when he saw the shots. He was obviously tense and tried to move away. The old vet would have waited a few seconds, talked to him and snuck up on him while cupping his one hand behind the eye so he couldn't see the shot coming. Always worked. Eventually, when she couldn't get him to stand, I put my own hand behind his eye, cupped a little bit and the shots went smoothly. He is a big sissy about his shots, but doesn't mean to cause trouble - he IS however, very very strong once he decides there will be 'pain'. As for the Coggins - don't even want to go there. He got stuck 6 times before she was able to draw blood (had to shave his furry neck) and he was very jumpy. He used to be so good for the old vet. I'm afraid that every future visit from this gal will be a fight now. Like you, switching vets is not an option. She is the only vet who is accepting new clients in our area. Martie in MD I truly believe that the shots are not the issue. The handling is so rough and scares my horse so much, that pretty soon, no one will be able to get near him with a needle. I have used this Vet for 18 years, and have not had these problems in the past. Switching Vets is not really an option because of where I live. I really want to retain this Vet, and mend any problems. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Proper Vet Manners (a little long, but I need your help)
This message is from: jgayle jga...@techline.com Whew, it is the Vet and she is hard headed, and feels strength and pain only, control. Can you give the shots or is that against the law, while she is there? Jean Gayle who has given many shots!!! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Minnesota Horse Expo - we need your help
This message is from: Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com Hi MN and WI Listers We need some help at the expo. If you are planning to attend the MN expo (next weekend) please consider helping us at the fjord exhibit. We need help on Friday, Saturday and Sunday from 10 AM to 3 PM for: * the information table to answer questions and greet visitors * help with heading, holding and getting to and from the Colisum for presentations each day at noon and later in the afternoon * Take down at 5 pm on Sunday If you can give us a hand and spare some time in your day, please let me know. Thanks. We look forward to seeing many of you during the expo. Linda and Kristin and expo group Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: help please re: pasture
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com My gelding is relatively flat soled, even after being barefoot for 4 years. Great big round feet, fabulous shape, but just not nicely concave. He is fine in most places, but on rocky gravel will still mince. And my mare who has rock hard feet will also mince on gravel. They just don't like it. Kate with Della and Joe ** In a message dated 4/16/2009 12:41:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcdic...@hotmail.com writes: He has never exhibited lameness but he is flat soled and tender at times. He lives in a paddock paradise environment this is 20 foot wide gravel and mud track with access to pasture am and pm. I am concerned because he does get a cresty neck **Great deals on Dellâs most popular laptops â Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029082x1201385915/aol?redir=http :%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213969145%3B35701480%3Bh) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
help please re: pasture
This message is from: donna mcgeein mcdic...@hotmail.com Hello, It has been a couple of years since I have posted. My name is Donna McGeein, I moved with my Fjord from MT to OR 1 1/2 years ago. He is a 13 year old gelding. I have done a bit of many things with him - driving, arena, trails, packing and therapy when we get the chance. Now I am concerned about him eating grass. His hoof health has been an ongoing concern, because everyone has something to say. Last year I had his feet xrayed and the internal foot structure was sound. He has never exhibited lameness but he is flat soled and tender at times. He lives in a paddock paradise environment this is 20 foot wide gravel and mud track with access to pasture am and pm. I am concerned because he does get a cresty neck and I know he does not metabalize like the non-Fjord types. Please let me know what you think. Also If you are the Fjord owners near Portland - or know of them, please let me know. I think there was a herd there doing therapy. Thank you, Donna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Help for my aching QH
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Try Equine Corta-flex RX 100 Ultimate solution, It not only has glucosamine and chondroitin, but alo Hylauronic acid, Devil's Claw and Yucca so you have both the joint suppliment plus the same stuff that's in BL soslution. It really seems to help 34 year old Bjarne, altho I don't know what it will do for your old horse with the hock problem. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still waiting for spring. We have not done joint supplements or other types of injections (which I sort of dimly understood would not really help with arthritis in the upper joint...but I did not look into it a lot because he is not a performance horse...just our good old guy). Recommendations? We do have a vet coming out next week and could have him looked at further, but I figured that I should get up to speed before she comes out. Am willing to buy BL solution, chondroitin, all that stuff if people think it will help. Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Calling all creative types--Need help with farm name
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Kris, A little hokey; but since you have 3 boys and 3 horses; what about Three's the Charm Farm ? Susan; owned by Alf Valdemar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:47 am Subject: Calling all creative types--Need help with farm name This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, all-- My husband Tom and I have spent the last month moving across town and finally bringing our three Fjord geldings home! It has been an amazing, exhausting and humbling experience. Now that the dust is starting to settle, I would love to come up with a farm name, but haven't hit upon the right one yet. Here is some basic info: -14 flat acres with great pasture, simple barn, wooded trails and a stream -Three Fjord geldings, two brown, one grey: they are simply for pleasure, trail riding and beginning driving--no breeding or showing -Two dogs, a Pug and a Lab, one cat -We have three little boys, ages 11, 8 and 5 -My husband is an Internal Medicine physician -I am a stay-at-home mom and all living things around me are MALE I would love to find a name that is personal, unpretentious and combines something about the boys or the Fjords...even a cute equestrian or medical term. Some that we have considered are: Portly Pony Farm Equine-imity Something involving three (for sons and geldings) Fjord Fields Thanks for any suggestions! Kris Batchelor in NC **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Calling all creative types--Need help with farm name
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, all-- My husband Tom and I have spent the last month moving across town and finally bringing our three Fjord geldings home! It has been an amazing, exhausting and humbling experience. Now that the dust is starting to settle, I would love to come up with a farm name, but haven't hit upon the right one yet. Here is some basic info: -14 flat acres with great pasture, simple barn, wooded trails and a stream -Three Fjord geldings, two brown, one grey: they are simply for pleasure, trail riding and beginning driving--no breeding or showing -Two dogs, a Pug and a Lab, one cat -We have three little boys, ages 11, 8 and 5 -My husband is an Internal Medicine physician -I am a stay-at-home mom and all living things around me are MALE I would love to find a name that is personal, unpretentious and combines something about the boys or the Fjords...even a cute equestrian or medical term. Some that we have considered are: Portly Pony Farm Equine-imity Something involving three (for sons and geldings) Fjord Fields Thanks for any suggestions! Kris Batchelor in NC **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Thanx for the help
This message is from: Gayle Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi steve, Thank you for answering my question in regard to resizing photos. I followed your instructions and managed to 'git 'er done' Thank you, too, for making this available. Sure makes sense and seems much simpler for folks looking to buy a Fjord - rather than having to slog through the 'other' sites with so many breeds. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Calling all creative types--Need help with farm name
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about the Batchelor Pad? Julie in CA In a message dated 8/24/2008 9:03:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, all-- My husband Tom and I have spent the last month moving across town and finally bringing our three Fjord geldings home! It has been an amazing, exhausting and humbling experience. Now that the dust is starting to settle, I would love to come up with a farm name, but haven't hit upon the right one yet. Here is some basic info: -14 flat acres with great pasture, simple barn, wooded trails and a stream -Three Fjord geldings, two brown, one grey: they are simply for pleasure, trail riding and beginning driving--no breeding or showing -Two dogs, a Pug and a Lab, one cat -We have three little boys, ages 11, 8 and 5 -My husband is an Internal Medicine physician -I am a stay-at-home mom and all living things around me are MALE I would love to find a name that is personal, unpretentious and combines something about the boys or the Fjords...even a cute equestrian or medical term. Some that we have considered are: Portly Pony Farm Equine-imity Something involving three (for sons and geldings) Fjord Fields Thanks for any suggestions! Kris Batchelor in NC **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: help for owners of blind horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rolling Dog Ranch? This is a wonderful organization.? Here is the link to the section dedicated to their blind horses.? It has a section with information about caring for your blind horse.? http://www.blindhorses.org/ I hope that your mare's blindness will be limited to the one eye, she has many active years, and her only limitation will be in the therapy program due to the rules. Linda The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: help for owners of blind horses
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should have known that Linda would come up with the rescue that helps blind horses! Linda, you are the BEST!! Jen On 7/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rolling Dog Ranch? This is a wonderful organization.? Here is the link to the section dedicated to their blind horses.? It has a section with information about caring for your blind horse.? http://www.blindhorses.org/ I hope that your mare's blindness will be limited to the one eye, she has many active years, and her only limitation will be in the therapy program due to the rules. Linda The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Proximal suspensory Desmitis - help !
This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] I work with a warmblood stallion that was diagnosed a couple of years ago with with the possibility of having this injury to the hind leg. Unfortunately, it seems to have proven to be a chronic problem. This horse has spectacular movement, what would be considered extravagant in the Fjord world. His movement is world-class, which may be part of the problem with having him return to consistent, normal work. Plus, he is a fairly energic horse and, being a stallion on top of that, simply cannot contain himself at times when he is being hand-walked, making full recovery without re-injuring the ligament a challenge. There is a lot of good information out there. One article that caught my eye was saying that you really cannot accurately diagnose proximal suspensory desmitis without an MRI, which is quite expensive. Here is a link to the article: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=10775 Whatever treatment you end up using, the bottom line is, healing takes rest, time and patience, patience, patience! (Just ask Beth German! - her patience has paid off in spades) Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Proximal suspensory Desmitis - help !
This message is from: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I just came back from the vet (600 miles drive...) because my 5 year old Stormy lamed a few days ago. It was his back left leg.Last year he had a severe episode with the same leg, I think, and when it happened again without a reason I wanted to have hime checked out. Last year, when he lamed I just stopped working him and could ride him again afer 6 weeks or so. At that time I figured that my mare could have kicked him. I have been lightly riding him through the winter withoug any lameness. But then, last week there was no reason form him to lame at all. He could walk but trotting was obvioulsy very painful and he basically could not trop. By the time I got to the vet a few days later he did not show any lameness anymore (I think I am the only person that could still see a slight uneasiness of him using that back leg) The vet did flexions of the joints, trotted him on a circle and it did not make him sore or lame. So the vet was not 100% positive but thought that it might indeed be Proximal Suspensory Desmitis (injury or strain to the to the suspensory ligament in the lower leg). Do you have any experience with this condition ? Did you get horses fully recover ? Is there something other than rest, cold water and anti inflamatories that I could do ? Any advice would be appreciated ? I am really upset that my nice young horse could have a severe condition... Thank you ! Yasmine Djabri (Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
natural hoof care, Help please
This message is from: donna mcgeein [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a 12 yr gelding (Hans Lars aka 'Bro'). His soles are flat. I bought him as a 4 yr old and the vet check said his soles were low and sensitive. Over the 8 years I have had him he has not been lame. We have ridden in many mountains and arenas. I tried to keep him barefoot once 2 yrs ago but lost patience and got the shoes and went into the mountains. He has Boa boots. We did live in MT and now live in OR. He is stabled at a 'Paddock Paradise' (book by Jaime Jackson) facility - shoes are discouraged. Yesterday he got a trim and the 'farrier' said go to zero pasture. I am using a muzzle. Here is the ? If Bro 'grazes' with the herd all day with a muzzle on, will he potentially get enough/too much to eat? I know it depends on the grass/ground/horse but does anyone want to say what the rule is? Thanks,Donna _ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: natural hoof care, Help please
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not know the answer, though my understanding is that the muzzle results in fairly close to zero pasture consumption. It sounds like it would be wise for you to join the equine cushings list. I think it is a yahoo list. I monitor it. You may need to go to soaking hay, or try to find some meadow grass hay that tends to have lots less sugar. The Cushings list is a bit overwhelming, but they do GREAT things for horses. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: natural hoof care, Help please
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. I bought my Fjord last October and it was a package deal: the Fjord and her muzzle! I can assure you that Fjords get a lot of grass to eat with their muzzle on. She would plunk the muzle down on the ground, push her nose deeper into it, wich would get her teeth close to the blades of grass that stick up through the holes in the muzzle. She was quite chunky even with the muzzle. So your gelding will most probably get plenty of grass to eat even with the muzzle. This year she is in great shape with OUT the muzzle: I have her on a 15 acres pasture (mostly weeds, hardly any Coastal Bermuda) with 3 other equines. I control her weight by making sure she gets exercise every other day, or every two days (I drive her and trail ride her) and by totally eliminating the hay. when I was still allowing her to eat hay, as well as grazing, she was getting fat. But without the hay she is doing great. No muzzle--haleluyah! You might want to add a magnesium supplement to his feed, eliminate all grain, but feed a Flax supplement which is high in anti-inflamatory Omega's, a vitamin and mineral and antioxident supplement, and let him graze with a muzzle, but no hay. HIs hooves may improve that way I wish you well, Jen On 6/13/08, Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not know the answer, though my understanding is that the muzzle results in fairly close to zero pasture consumption. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Need help
This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes it helps a lot. I,too, wondered if it was a young animal. We do have some wandering that get away from captive situtations Thanks for your hubby's help.good source. Linda On 5/26/08 8:37 AM, Alicia Encoyand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Alicia Encoyand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, My husband, who is an expirianced forester and a Park Ranger of two years is pretty sure it was a young, inexpirianced Mountain Lion. He said that is about the only animal that will attack the top of the animal like that. He also said that if it had been a bear or a wolf, they would have attacked from behing and probably killed your horse. An inexpirianced Mountain Lion though would not have any pesitence and would give up if kicked. Hope this helps, nbsp; Alicia Alicia, Alex and Elizabethnbsp;Encoyand 209-768-0281 Sonora, California www.mineshaftminiatures.com Raising quality American Miniature Horses --- On Sat, 5/24/08, Linda Lottie User lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Linda Lottie User lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Need help To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com lt;fjordhorse@angus.mystery.comgt; Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 5:30 PM This message is from: Linda Lottie User lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Hi Fjord Lovers; I need some suggestions: Yesterday I turned out my Swedish Gotland mare (21 years old) at 6am, on the pasture. She is turned out with a large paint gelding. At 1pm I went to bring them to the dry lot and found the Gotland with hair missing, scratch marks and small puncture wounds. None were bleeding but some had a little blood. It appeared that she was attacked from the top as all the wounds were on the back or upper sides. What ever attacked her had claws because there was a large long swipe with three claw marks.claws about 1/4 inch apart. Lots of hair was missingbut no open gash wounds or open claw swipes. I heard nothing but was cleaning the barn, radio on and vacc running. Does anyone have an idea of what the heck could have attacked her? We have Bear, Wolves, Cougar, Coyote, Eagles and Mountian Lion in the area but sightings are very, very rare for the cats. The south wall of the pasture is a large area of pine trees and the surrounding property is a large vacent woods. There are many large trees in the pasture and two ponds. My Gotland does not hear as well as the other horses and she limps a bit. She is ok and seems none the worse for wearbut, I am scared to turn her out again in that pasture. She is much smaller than a fjord.finer boned - more like a mid size pony. The paint had no wounds but dang, he lost a shoe, so thinking he was in muddy swampy grass and sprung up very quickly in response to the attack and left his shoe behind! To make this fjord related.I love mine:) Linda in NW WI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: need help
This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, I'm very glad your mare's okay. A neighbor's horse was attacked a couple springs ago by an adult male black bear. Those marks were primarily rump back. So I think that rules out black bears, as your perpetrator. In northern MN we have many large owls, and eagles and I have seen them hunt. I'd rule them out as your perpetrator.I'd do as someone else said check for old fencing left by previous farmers. Sometimes in the spring it will come up out of the ground as the frost moves things around. I'd also seriously consider cougar/mountail lion. We have them here in our area, there have been some problems (few far between) and the marks are very much as you describe. The most problem we had was when a guy released some young adults that had been his pets. They were not nearly as leery as the fully wild cougars so there were many sightings, and their hunting skills were poor. That made for a bad year for livestock in a suprisingly large area. Victims I heard about were sheep, goats, yearling cows, and ponies. _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr esh_family_safety_052008 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
re Need help
This message is from: Janet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Linda, I'm not too sure what could have attacked the horse, but I think you can rule out bear and cougar. I've had dogs and sheep attacked by both, and the claw marks would be much further apart (more like one inch or more apart) and the width of the claw mark would be as thick as a pencil. The punctures from a bite wound would be more typically on the back of the neck near the shoulders, and the claw marks typically would be over the back or hips. I think even our smaller cats (lynx and bob cat) would have claws spaced further apart. One of the best ways to determine whodunnit, is to measure the impression of the dentition on the bite wound. If you can identify the upper canine teeth and measure the distance between them. Also measure the width of the tooth. Animals are remarkably consistant in this spacing and size of the tooth. We do have some other tree dwelling critters here, like fishers and pine martins, that are rather rare, but can be very aggressive, but I don't think they would attack a horse. Janet The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate.we do have eagles that nest nearby but the wounds are more like a 4 legged critter. So far, the most likely are small mountian lion, single wolf..both of which have been sighted in the area. Fencing is not a possibility. My pastures are clear and no fencing down on the perimeter. Thanks for taking time to respondLinda On 5/26/08 7:48 AM, kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, I'm very glad your mare's okay. A neighbor's horse was attacked a couple springs ago by an adult male black bear. Those marks were primarily rump back. So I think that rules out black bears, as your perpetrator. In northern MN we have many large owls, and eagles and I have seen them hunt. I'd rule them out as your perpetrator.I'd do as someone else said check for old fencing left by previous farmers. Sometimes in the spring it will come up out of the ground as the frost moves things around. I'd also seriously consider cougar/mountail lion. We have them here in our area, there have been some problems (few far between) and the marks are very much as you describe. The most problem we had was when a guy released some young adults that had been his pets. They were not nearly as leery as the fully wild cougars so there were many sightings, and their hunting skills were poor. That made for a bad year for livestock in a suprisingly large area. Victims I heard about were sheep, goats, yearling cows, and ponies. _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr esh_family_safety_052008 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Need help
This message is from: Alicia Encoyand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, My husband, who is an expirianced forester and a Park Ranger of two years is pretty sure it was a young, inexpirianced Mountain Lion. He said that is about the only animal that will attack the top of the animal like that. He also said that if it had been a bear or a wolf, they would have attacked from behing and probably killed your horse. An inexpirianced Mountain Lion though would not have any pesitence and would give up if kicked. Hope this helps, nbsp; Alicia Alicia, Alex and Elizabethnbsp;Encoyand 209-768-0281 Sonora, California www.mineshaftminiatures.com Raising quality American Miniature Horses --- On Sat, 5/24/08, Linda Lottie User lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Linda Lottie User lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Need help To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com lt;fjordhorse@angus.mystery.comgt; Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 5:30 PM This message is from: Linda Lottie User lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Hi Fjord Lovers; I need some suggestions: Yesterday I turned out my Swedish Gotland mare (21 years old) at 6am, on the pasture. She is turned out with a large paint gelding. At 1pm I went to bring them to the dry lot and found the Gotland with hair missing, scratch marks and small puncture wounds. None were bleeding but some had a little blood. It appeared that she was attacked from the top as all the wounds were on the back or upper sides. What ever attacked her had claws because there was a large long swipe with three claw marks.claws about 1/4 inch apart. Lots of hair was missingbut no open gash wounds or open claw swipes. I heard nothing but was cleaning the barn, radio on and vacc running. Does anyone have an idea of what the heck could have attacked her? We have Bear, Wolves, Cougar, Coyote, Eagles and Mountian Lion in the area but sightings are very, very rare for the cats. The south wall of the pasture is a large area of pine trees and the surrounding property is a large vacent woods. There are many large trees in the pasture and two ponds. My Gotland does not hear as well as the other horses and she limps a bit. She is ok and seems none the worse for wearbut, I am scared to turn her out again in that pasture. She is much smaller than a fjord.finer boned - more like a mid size pony. The paint had no wounds but dang, he lost a shoe, so thinking he was in muddy swampy grass and sprung up very quickly in response to the attack and left his shoe behind! To make this fjord related.I love mine:) Linda in NW WI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: need help
This message is from: Janet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wolves would have grabbed the flanks, or under side of the neck. They also tend to create a fair amount of panick so your horses would appear to have been chased through fences etc. Wolves and coyotes would not leave claw marks. Janet The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Need help
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/24/2008 5:35:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It appeared that she was attacked from the top as all the wounds were on the back or upper sides. What ever attacked her had claws because there was a large long swipe with three claw marks.claws about 1/4 inch apart. Linda, I hope your Gotland is okay! My first thought would be a tangle with fencing. I would check for old barbed wire, chicken wire, no-climb wire ... that could cause the wounds you described. Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Need help
This message is from: shawna smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, Many years ago, I had a horse attacked by a cougar and the claw marks left behind were larger, with about an inch between claw marks, one set on top of horses back, the other along his side and flank. In the horses flight, he ran thru a barb wire fence which did serious damage to his hind leg... An old retired trapper surmised it was a full-grown tom. It's hard to know what exactly happened to your mare, thankfully she's okay!! Shawna in NW OR -- From: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 5:30 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Need help This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Fjord Lovers; I need some suggestions: Does anyone have an idea of what the heck could have attacked her? We have Bear, Wolves, Cougar, Coyote, Eagles and Mountian Lion in the area The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Need help
This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Fjord Lovers; I need some suggestions: Yesterday I turned out my Swedish Gotland mare (21 years old) at 6am, on the pasture. She is turned out with a large paint gelding. At 1pm I went to bring them to the dry lot and found the Gotland with hair missing, scratch marks and small puncture wounds. None were bleeding but some had a little blood. It appeared that she was attacked from the top as all the wounds were on the back or upper sides. What ever attacked her had claws because there was a large long swipe with three claw marks.claws about 1/4 inch apart. Lots of hair was missingbut no open gash wounds or open claw swipes. I heard nothing but was cleaning the barn, radio on and vacc running. Does anyone have an idea of what the heck could have attacked her? We have Bear, Wolves, Cougar, Coyote, Eagles and Mountian Lion in the area but sightings are very, very rare for the cats. The south wall of the pasture is a large area of pine trees and the surrounding property is a large vacent woods. There are many large trees in the pasture and two ponds. My Gotland does not hear as well as the other horses and she limps a bit. She is ok and seems none the worse for wearbut, I am scared to turn her out again in that pasture. She is much smaller than a fjord.finer boned - more like a mid size pony. The paint had no wounds but dang, he lost a shoe, so thinking he was in muddy swampy grass and sprung up very quickly in response to the attack and left his shoe behind! To make this fjord related.I love mine:) Linda in NW WI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: E-mail HELP
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This message is from: Heather Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont know how I got on this list but I sure would like to be taken off From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E-mail Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:36:18 -0500 This message is from: Karen Larry Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry to post this to everyone, But Steve could you please help me change my E-Mail address so I can keep getting the digest. Thanks Karen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Exchange help at Evals in Moses Lake WA?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone who's going to the Evals in Moses Lake WA interested in exchanging help? I'm too crippled to properly jog a horse, and I need someone as a groom (for the driving test). I do know how to groom and trim manes, etc. Contact me off the list if you're interested. Thanks! Eileen in the Tri-Cities WA (trying to hide from the heat) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: help for lame Fjord
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Yaesmine, If you can hose his leg with cold water it will help bring down the swelling. Hope this helps. Alison Sundre where the flies are horrible. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
help for lame Fjord
This message is from: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here I am again ! Stormy started limping 2 days ago (back left leg) It's pretty bad, and I don't know what happened. We rode him the day before and he could have hurt himeself in some bad terrain or my mare kicked him. The inside of his leg from under the knee down to the foot joint is swollen (not terribly though) and he really limps badly. It is also sensitive when I apply pressure. I have been putting poultices with some herbs that I know have anti inflamatory properties but any advice about poultices or other things that I could do would be welcome. Thanks again Yaesmine Djabri (Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Help needed Hoof problem
This message is from: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everybody, Yesterday, after a few days of steady rain I noticed that the top part of all 4 of Stormy's hoofs had about one inch of whithish soft and uneaven texture. It seemed also that the hair that usually covers the very top of the hoofs (where they start growing) is retreating. I have no access to a vet here (the downside of homesteading in Central Yukon !) and was wondering if someone knew what this could be. Stormy is 4 years old, in a dry lot (that's mord a mud lot after all this rain), and grazes 1-2 hours mornings and evenings. He is not fat and is lightly worked. I have not noticed any difference in his behaviour but I am a bit worried about the aspect of his hoofs. Could that be a fungus or a sign of founder ?? I coud send a picture if someone was willing to advise ! Thanks in advance Best Regards Yasmine Djabri The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Help needed Hoof problem
This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Yasmine, Sounds normal to me. But, send a picture if you can to me, I'll take a look. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. - Original Message - From: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Help needed Hoof problem For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Help needed Hoof problem
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Yasmine, In the normal hoof, as it grows, there is a layer of thin soft tissue (like our cuticle?) that grows down with the hoof from the coronary band. When the hoof is dry it isn't very noticeable, but when it gets wet, this thin dead tissue becomes soft and more obvious. I think this is what you are seeing. You can probably scrape it off with your fingernail. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, too warm at 80 degrees today, with 21 1/2 hours of sunlight, will be 85 degrees on the 4th! Yesterday, after a few days of steady rain I noticed that the top part of all 4 of Stormy's hoofs had about one inch of whithish soft and uneaven texture. It seemed also that the hair that usually covers the very top of the hoofs (where they start growing) is retreating. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Help needed Hoof problem
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Yasmine, I have been meaning to write you because I too have a fjord named Stormy. Mine is a grey dun, is yours? On the issue of the hoofs, I am sure someone out there knows more than I do but I just thought I would tell you that this same things happens to my Percheron when he is allowed to be in an irrigated (flooded) pasture. I was concerned about it too but as soon as the water subsides, his hoofs return to normal with no damage that I can tell. I don't think its a fungus or founder. Let us know if it clears up when it stops raining and has a chance to dry out. Bonnie Visalia, CA forcast for July 4th---107 degrees! - Original Message - From: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Help needed Hoof problem This message is from: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everybody, Yesterday, after a few days of steady rain I noticed that the top part of all 4 of Stormy's hoofs had about one inch of whithish soft and uneaven texture. It seemed also that the hair that usually covers the very top of the hoofs (where they start growing) is retreating. I have no access to a vet here (the downside of homesteading in Central Yukon !) and was wondering if someone knew what this could be. Stormy is 4 years old, in a dry lot (that's mord a mud lot after all this rain), and grazes 1-2 hours mornings and evenings. He is not fat and is lightly worked. I have not noticed any difference in his behaviour but I am a bit worried about the aspect of his hoofs. Could that be a fungus or a sign of founder ?? I coud send a picture if someone was willing to advise ! Thanks in advance Best Regards Yasmine Djabri The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
re: help needed hoof problem
This message is from: Emily Wigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yasmine, this white softening at the top of the hoof (the coronet band) is normal and natural when there is an extreme environmental change to the wetter. Here in the Seattle area where it is quite wet, we get the same thing, and it's just the hoof's way of dealing with the increased moisture. No care is needed, nothing is wrong. Enjoy your pony up in the wild frontier! Emily Emily Wigley Fish Bowl Farm Vashon Island, Washington http://www.fishbowlfarm.com • [EMAIL PROTECTED] • 206-463-5473 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Driving alone...Thanks for all the help!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for all the great suggestions! I don't have an eventing vest but I think I'm going to get one...sort of the little black dress of equestrian sports, right? I always take my cell with me (riding too) but now I've added calling my sister-in-law before I leave, filing a flight plan and calling her upon my return. I've got a good knife in my show trunk along with a helmet and that ADS ID armband so maybe it's time I dragged them out. Especially the armband. If anything ever happened, Braveheart (the wonder pony) is DNA-ed, microchipped and tattooed so there'd be no trouble identifying HIM, but ME...? Anyhow, I feel a lot better knowing that there are lots of us who don't wait for the planets to be in perfect alignment to go driving. I like to take people along when I go out but the kind of driving in the plan for the next couple of months would require company at least 5 days a week and THAT is not a favor, it's an imposition. And so, armed with all my new hints and my loyal pony's gift for ignoring traffic, inquisitive llamas and deer, off I go. Trot on! Kay and Braveheart who is sure that HE doesn't want anyone else on the cart and Bogie, who says, What's a cart? (Which I hope to show him sometime this year.) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Driving alone...Thanks for all the help!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, Kay, what about a little tattoo on your, um, well, uh, wherever?!? :-) DeeAnna ...If anything ever happened, Braveheart (the wonder pony) is DNA-ed, microchipped and tattooed so there'd be no trouble identifying HIM, but ME...? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
At little help starting out please
This message is from: Codynfliffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are starting my youngster at the moment. Hes a very good natured chap and loves to do things. We are long reining him regularly, but he is very very strong. He will happily power walk along on both reins now , but when asked for a halt will often try to turn on to you. If he doesnt turn he will often rear up and box. Any ideas to get him out of this little party piece? Thanks Liz The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: At little help starting out please
This message is from: Joe Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without being there to diagnose what is happening I can't be sure what is wrong, but my first guess would be that there is to much pressure for the horse. When starting any horse it is easy to apply to much pressure. Try this. When you ask for a halt, as soon as you see an attempt to slow down or stop, release some of the pressure on the lines. As soon as the horse halts completely, release all pressure on the lines. It is a horses natural instinct to move under pressure and stop when there is no pressure. Verbal cues may be used for driving, put don't use them more than you need to. I always use an open bridle (no blinders) when starting ground driving so the horse can see me without turning around. Most horses are uncomfortable with something behind them until they are assured that it won't hurt them. Let me know if this works or makes sense. Joe Glick Glick Family Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: At little help starting out please
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Liz This is rather common with starting new youngsters. The easiest way that I have found to teach them to be softer and not drag you off or buck or rear in protest. Is to work them next to a solid wood fence preferably in a corner . You can turn your corner into a circle. When they go to fast change their direction into the fence. That will bring them to a momentary stop then proceed forward ( don't forget to praise that is the most important part) and make your process very slow giving him the chance to make a decision when you ask (this way he can process what he is supposed to do) He may be bucking or rearing because he does not understand( you may be asking too fast)( also when you ask to go forward you need to make sure you are giving with the hand . Good luck Bonnie ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: At little help starting out please
This message is from: Rose or Murph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Liz, what have you been doing with him prior to ground driving? Any John Lyons, or Pat Parrelli? I have a mare, almost two, with whom I am going to start ground driving soon. I have been working on lots of round pen lessons, I have a few more to go. I am going follow the advice of her breeder for ground driving.What they do, is at first have someone walking at the head of the horse with a lead rope attached. The driver, has the ground lines. When giving commands, the person at the head of the horse and at the back of the horse tag team, meaning, you might give the cue walk onIf the horse does not move, the person at the head encourages the horse to move, without any added excitement from behind, like smacking the butt with the lines. I always try very hard to keep everything calm and no big deal. After things are going well, the person at the head participates less and less, eventually being weaned from the ground driving all together. Granted I would only ground drive after you horse is completely sacked out and comfortable being touched all over with ropes, does not mind getting something wrapped around his foot. I would try to avoid any pulling matches, once he figures that out, it might start to become a pattern. Set him up only for success. Someone at his head could get him to whoa when you give him the command. Of course lots of praise for the well dones. The Fjord is a very smart breed. I am impressed so far. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Codynfliffi Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:10 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: At little help starting out please This message is from: Codynfliffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are starting my youngster at the moment. Hes a very good natured chap and loves to do things. We are long reining him regularly, but he is very very strong. He will happily power walk along on both reins now , but when asked for a halt will often try to turn on to you. If he doesnt turn he will often rear up and box. Any ideas to get him out of this little party piece? Thanks Liz The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Amy's Idea To Help
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/13/2007 5:27:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After getting a good night's sleep and talking to a few other members of our Oregon Fjord Club, we have come up with an idea to try to help pay for the coliced colt's surgery, and maybe get him back with the family that were trying to buy him. The Oregon Fjord Club will be sponsoring a 50/50 raffle! The way it works - Tickets will be $1 each, and at the conclusion of the raffle the winner will receive 1/2 of the total money collected. The other half will go directly to pay for the surgery. We will draw the winning ticket on Sunday March 25 at the conclusion of the Northwest Horse Fair and Expo, where we will again be promoting Fjord Horses to thousands of spectators. I partially like this idea. I would LOVE to buy raffle tickets that would help benefit this little gelding. Catherine, again, showed herself to be a true horsewoman, putting the horse's health and well being above pocketbook or self. It could just be me, but I wouldn't feel as comfortable trying to get him back into the family who was trying to buy him before. Was he under their care when he colicked so badly? That isn't what would bother me so much, as accidents happen, horses get sick, despite our best care.I have a wonderful horse suffering from laminitis now with no known cause. No grain, she's not fat, she didn't get into anything, but she's got a mild fever. She has cost us, over, oh, $600 or $700 in the last few days in medical care and she's not out of the woods yet. (Now I'm getting to what troubles me about giving him back to this family). We all know that the cheapest part of horse ownership is the initial purchase. If they could not afford his medical attention this time around, what will happen if he becomes sick or injured again. And are they experienced horse people? If not, will they be able to afford his training? Just some stick-in-the-mud questions I have about what would become of the horse. That all having been said, I would still gladly buy some raffle tickets just to help defray Catherine's costs. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
An idea to help!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone: After getting a good night's sleep and talking to a few other members of our Oregon Fjord Club, we have come up with an idea to try to help pay for the coliced colt's surgery, and maybe get him back with the family that were trying to buy him. The Oregon Fjord Club will be sponsoring a 50/50 raffle! The way it works - Tickets will be $1 each, and at the conclusion of the raffle the winner will receive 1/2 of the total money collected. The other half will go directly to pay for the surgery. We will draw the winning ticket on Sunday March 25 at the conclusion of the Northwest Horse Fair and Expo, where we will again be promoting Fjord Horses to thousands of spectators. In order to keep costs down, we will not be mailing out tickets as we did for our foal raffle. So, if you are feeling generous, lucky or both, please send checks made payable to 'OR Fjord Club' and we'll enter the appropriate number of tickets into the drawing for you. It is my hope that the club and all it's generous supporters will be able to cover the entire vet bill on this colt, as I know that the cost is going to be an extreme hardship on Catherine otherwise. Please think about joining me in making this happen! Thanks. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: An idea to help!
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, what is Catherine's email address? That is a great idea of yours and I will send a check. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: An idea to help!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catherine's Email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Days Creek OR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: An idea to help! This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, what is Catherine's email address? That is a great idea of yours and I will send a check. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: help please
This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not on the digest, but I too, sometimes have to scroll through a ton of the email only to find way at the bottom, the reply. It is easier to read a reply to an email (such as I am doing here) if you put it at the TOP of the message with the original below Reena in AZ Gustav (who has been body clipped twice and now has a trace clip) This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] can we all quote just enough to clarify what we are referring to, when we reply. i just scrolled through many repetitions and answers just to get to a one line response to the initial post The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
help please
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] just a minor request...can we all quote just enough to clarify what we are referring to, when we reply. i just scrolled through many repetitions and answers just to get to a one line response to the initial post. please help out a little, eh? (i am not going to name any particular subject, so there are no hurt feelingsit happens quite frequently). many thanks laurie, in damp and chilly minnesota The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Bucking Fjord - Thanks for the Help
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone- Thank you for the suggestions I've received regarding my bucking Fjord. I will begin doing as you've said. My boy is a sweetie and has a very kind temperament. I believe this bucking usually occurs when he has been kept in for a prolonged time period. So, I'm going to begin his training on this. Thanks again! It's great to have a forum like this to discuss things. Sincerely- Pat McCurdy Cato, NY
HELP -need to contact Patti Walters quickly
This message is from: Genie Dethloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, Does anyone have a cell phone number for Patti Jo Walter? I may have a horse showing up at her doorstep tomorrow and I haven't been able to reach her by the phone at her house. Anyone know if she's out of town? -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan
Founder help
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks to all who responded with advice about grass founder and my mare. I have gotten a lot of real help. It's so good to know I'm not out here swinging in the breeze all alone. I just knew I'd fine help on this Fjord list. Thanks again, Pat
Re: A HELP! appeal to all Fjordlisters and lovers (and possibly sniffers)
This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not get the attachment eitherLinda Baker Lottie in WI On 1/31/06 11:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:48 am Subject: A HELP! appeal to all Fjordlisters and lovers (and possibly sniffers) This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All! Even though it's only January, the advertising committee for the NFHR's 25th Anniversary Celebration/Show/Evaluation in October at Winona MN is already prepared to throw itself at your feet and beg for help. So here goes...We're planning a big, pretty, glossy event program for the celebration that will include the schedule of events, articles of current and historical interest, gorgeous photos and ads from individuals, farms and businesses who are courting our trade or who just wish us well. It will be a special program that will make a great and informative souvineer of the celebration! We hope that everybody can come to the party but, if you can or can't, we want this program to be a terrific keepsake from the event. Anyhow, as I'm sure you've already guessed, we really need advertisers...of all types and at all levels. We've got everything from full-page color spreads to 3 line spots on the supporters' page. Before you delete this shameless appeal for funds from your screen, please see the attached file which will tell you all about our program and the ways you can be included. Please...please...please! Thanks in advance! Kay Van Natta and Braveheart, who is thinking of getting a paper route so he can be in the program. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet- stream which had a name of ad costsheet.pub] My computer deleted your attachment - not sure if anyone else's did the same thing. I think we should challenge anyone interested to support this effort to the max. Extra copies make exceptional promotional material when you go to other events. I will put up the first challenge and commit to a full page color spread. ( Double dose of Nyquil speaking or a leap of faith since I have not seen the cost sheet yet) regardless- go for it. Kathy in Southern Idaho
Re: A HELP! appeal to all Fjordlisters and lovers (and possibly sniffers)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:48 am Subject: A HELP! appeal to all Fjordlisters and lovers (and possibly sniffers) This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All! Even though it's only January, the advertising committee for the NFHR's 25th Anniversary Celebration/Show/Evaluation in October at Winona MN is already prepared to throw itself at your feet and beg for help. So here goes...We're planning a big, pretty, glossy event program for the celebration that will include the schedule of events, articles of current and historical interest, gorgeous photos and ads from individuals, farms and businesses who are courting our trade or who just wish us well. It will be a special program that will make a great and informative souvineer of the celebration! We hope that everybody can come to the party but, if you can or can't, we want this program to be a terrific keepsake from the event. Anyhow, as I'm sure you've already guessed, we really need advertisers...of all types and at all levels. We've got everything from full-page color spreads to 3 line spots on the supporters' page. Before you delete this shameless appeal for funds from your screen, please see the attached file which will tell you all about our program and the ways you can be included. Please...please...please! Thanks in advance! Kay Van Natta and Braveheart, who is thinking of getting a paper route so he can be in the program. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet- stream which had a name of ad costsheet.pub] My computer deleted your attachment - not sure if anyone else's did the same thing. I think we should challenge anyone interested to support this effort to the max. Extra copies make exceptional promotional material when you go to other events. I will put up the first challenge and commit to a full page color spread. ( Double dose of Nyquil speaking or a leap of faith since I have not seen the cost sheet yet) regardless- go for it. Kathy in Southern Idaho
Savannah Home :-) / Raffle Help PLEASE
This message is from: Catherine lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you that have been following the story of Savannah Hardekopf and her car accident. She is home now. 35 days after her accident. Savannah broke the exact same bones in her neck as CHRISTOPHER REEVES. She is alive and she will be able to walk again. She is a miracle kid. Her pelvis was pinned in 11 places and that is what prevents her from walking at this point. Long story shorten for those that did not get the first part. Savannah is an Oregon Fjord Club member. She was riding Fjords at my farm. Her plan was to perform vaulting with 2 other friends for our 2006 Expo in Albany, OR in March 06. On 8-7-2005 she was in a car accident. The car landed on her and crushed her pelvis, neck, broke her jaw, lacerated her liver, damaged her spleen, and so on. She should have been dead. The doctors say she is 1 out of 50 Million to survive this type of injuries. she is 1 out of 50 million to be able to walk again. Anyway. she is now home in a wheel chair and going back to school. Savannah is determined to graduate on time and to go to VET School. This is where you come in. We (Oregon Fjord Club) established a medical fund / college fund. this fund is to help pay the hundred of thousands of dollars of medical bills her family is occurring. If and I say IF there is anything left over, it will go to her college education (VET SCHOOL). We have been selling raffle tickets for a yearling gelding at $5.00 each or 6 for $25.00. We need your help in selling more to make our goal to help Savannah. On 8-1-2005 we sent out letters with our goal to raise money for the club and the NFH Foundation. We still will give money to both these endeavors however; we want to be able to give some money to the medical fund. I know with your help we can do all three. If you are willing to help us we do appreciate it. You may contact Amy Evers at fjordAmy @ aol.com (no spaces) or me at lassesen @ citlink.net . We can set you up with some posters and tickets to sell. The gelding is a very nice put together colt. He is out of my mare Lupin who is very performance talented and the full brother to our stallion. The person that wins this gelding will be VERY HAPPY. He is quality in every sense of the word. I am not as good as others in fluffing up my breeding talents. but this colt will place well in conformation and in performance once trained. He is just a yearling and he does anything I ask him to do as a yearling. Thank you for your time. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Bed, Barn, Breakfast Baskets Southern Oregon 541-825-3027
Re: Help with bit selection
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Roberta, I am interested in this bit, but couldn't figure out which one it was on the State Line web site. Do you know the maker or more info? Thanks, Julie in CA In a message dated 9/7/2005 7:55:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a revelation this year. I had been having a bit ( hee hee ) of trouble getting Gunnar working and finally paid enough attention to see that the bit was irritating to him as well as just not large enough. It fit but it was a tight fit. After reading some wear that Fjords have a low pallet and that broken bits have a nut cracker effect for these horses, that fjords have a need for a larger than average size ( 5 ) things started to click. I found a short shanked low port curb 5 1/2 and man did that change things : ))!!! His head set instantly and the pleasure trot is coming along nicely! I wouldn't trade this bit for nothing. Best part is I found it at state line tack and paid only 19.95 for it, and it really looks nice ( enough for the ring ). I am really excited about the success we're having now!! I tried all the bits I had and some I borrowed and finally I got smart and remembered what I read and it worked! Very happy western pleasure rider : )) Roberta MN
Re: Help with bit selection
This message is from: Warren Stockwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a revelation this year. I had been having a bit ( hee hee ) of trouble getting Gunnar working and finally paid enough attention to see that the bit was irritating to him as well as just not large enough. It fit but it was a tight fit. After reading some wear that Fjords have a low pallet and that broken bits have a nut cracker effect for these horses, that fjords have a need for a larger than average size ( 5 ) things started to click. I found a short shanked low port curb 5 1/2 and man did that change things : ))!!! His head set instantly and the pleasure trot is coming along nicely! I wouldn't trade this bit for nothing. Best part is I found it at state line tack and paid only 19.95 for it, and it really looks nice ( enough for the ring ). I am really excited about the success we're having now!! I tried all the bits I had and some I borrowed and finally I got smart and remembered what I read and it worked! Very happy western pleasure rider : )) Roberta MN - Original Message - From: Carolyn Mele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: Fw: Help with bit selection This message is from: Carolyn Mele [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Carolyn Mele To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: Help with bit selection Hi List Carolyn in So. Indiana again, been lurking lately. I have finally had my baby boy and am looking forward to getting started with my Fjord now.(hopefully before old man winter comes.) I have ridden him a few times in an eggbutt snaffle but do not have much leverage. I ride western so am not sure what to try to use on him. I do not have much backround info on him except that for the last three years he was mostly just a cart pony (which i hope to master next year) any suggestions would be helpful. He is very forward but not out of control just a little high headed and strong. As a side note , yes my little fella is popping his winter coat already too. Carolyn
Fw: Help with bit selection
This message is from: Carolyn Mele [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Carolyn Mele To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: Help with bit selection Hi List Carolyn in So. Indiana again, been lurking lately. I have finally had my baby boy and am looking forward to getting started with my Fjord now.(hopefully before old man winter comes.) I have ridden him a few times in an eggbutt snaffle but do not have much leverage. I ride western so am not sure what to try to use on him. I do not have much backround info on him except that for the last three years he was mostly just a cart pony (which i hope to master next year) any suggestions would be helpful. He is very forward but not out of control just a little high headed and strong. As a side note , yes my little fella is popping his winter coat already too. Carolyn
RE: Katrina Help
This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is from the Red Cross web site: link http://www.redcross.org/article/0,1072,0_312_4498,00.html About Donating Goods to the Red Cross for Areas Impacted by Hurricane Katrina Written by Leigh-Anne Dennison , Redcross.org Staff Wednesday, August 31, 2005 When a disaster of the magnitude of Hurricane Katrina strikes and the news broadcasts images of broken, battered and destroyed homes, it is natural for the public to be eager to help their neighbors whether theyre across town or across the country. Often, seeing that they have lost everything, people are eager to donate food, clothing or other goods to meet the needs of storm victims and help the affected families begin to replace what they have lost. Anheuser-Busch donated more than six million cans of water to the American Red Cross and other relief agencies to aid victims and relief workers during the 2004 Atlantic hurricanes. U.S. Navy personnel provided invaluable assistance to the Hurricane Ivan relief operation last year by loading critically needed water donated by Anheuser-Busch onto Red Cross ERVs at the Pensacola Civic Center distribution site, Fla., September 2004. (Photo Credit: Dave Murray/American Red Cross/File) While that generous spirit is truly appreciated, the American Red Cross cannot accept this type of donation for the victims it is serving, said Amanda Lepof, an American Red Cross In-Kind Officer. Today, the Red Cross is operating more than 250 shelters across seven states, providing a safe haven for nearly 42,000 evacuees many who have been left homeless by Katrina. The first priority is meeting the urgent, critical needs of those people, which include providing emergency shelter, food and water. In-kind donations are best when they come from companies that can provide new items in a quantity that meets the mass care needs of victims for example, Anheuser-Busch is again donating canned water for hurricane victims and response workers, said Lepof. Unsolicited, spontaneous donations of goods and services from individuals and community groups, although well intentioned, have hidden costs and pose a number of complications for initial relief efforts. For these reasons, the Red Cross is unable to accept any large collections of items, such as used clothing, hygiene items, furniture, toys, blankets, and canned goods. Nor is it able to accept small, individual donations of these items. Why does the Red Cross discourage donations of collected goods and individual items for disaster relief? Collections of items require valuable and scarce resources such as time, money, and personnel to sort, clean, and distribute them, which come at the expense of the emergency activities relief workers are attempting to perform. The Red Cross has neither the resources, nor the logistical set-up, to properly handle these types of donations, and therefore cannot accept them. In addition, because the organization has no way of knowing what spontaneous individual donations or unsolicited collections of items will consist of, and therefore cannot ensure there will be enough of a particular item to distribute it equitably, or if the donated products will even be appropriate for the relief effort. Shipping donated goods is also costly and particularly difficult in the aftermath of a disaster, as roads are often damaged or impassable, and easily clogged with shipments of non-priority items. The Red Cross makes every attempt to procure items locally to save money by minimizing transportation and storage costs. We dont want to discourage people who want to help, said Lepof. But, making a financial gift to support the relief operations really is the best way for people to help after a disaster like this. Monetary financial contributions enable the Red Cross to support the greatest needs in the most efficient manner. Cash can be used to purchase items in adjacent, staging areas and eliminate the added costs involved in transporting goods. Where can donations of collected goods and individual items be most effective? Individual donations of goods and collections of items are put to their best possible use, and have the greatest impact economically, when they are donated to local charitable organizations within the local community. Donating locally eliminates transportation costs and ensures disaster workers are not overwhelmed with sorting unsolicited donations and are free to perform priority relief activities. Because these local agencies are not operating in the crisis environment that characterizes disaster relief, the charity will have the time sort, clean, and repair goods and identify how and where they can be most beneficial. Guidelines for Effective Giving in Support of Disaster Relief Before beginning any sort of collection drive, it is important to first call a charitable agency and confirm that there is a need for the donation
RE: Katrina Help
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This looks like it could be a dangerous hoax. The Red Cross needs moneynot stuff. There is some stuff mixed in below that looks like it is related to sending e-mails, which makes me further suspicious. I cannot confirm this from my web searches. Further, it seems odd that there is reliance on the NFL to deal with the packages. Please do not do this or forward without further authentication! This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received this email regarding the hurricane victims down south. Just for your info. Mike From: Colleen Pace [AARS] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:30 AM To: Subject: Katrina Help Hello fellow American ~ It feels good to know we have proof that America cares for its own. After going on the Red Cross sight (www.redcross.org) to make a contribution for the Katrina survivors Tuesday night, I attempted to return to the site Wednesday night to see what else I could do ..and couldnt get on. It must have been getting so many hits that it was crashing. But, here is some great news . We now have an address where we can actually ship things to help a clean, dry place with tens of thousands of people in need, and within 350 miles of those survivors who cannot escape. So, here are three ways you can ship truly needed supplies to our southern friends. . Heres the Address. Use this heading so the receivers know it is all coming from this one campaign. That way, if they need special things, or are receiving too much of a particular thing, they can ask the media to speak to our group directly! Our Group refers all the people across the nation who got hooked on the giving from one of those silly e-mail send-alongs! It will be fun to see where-all the e-mail goes. Address: From Your Friends Across the Nation c/o American Red Cross Houston Astrodome 8400 Kirby Drive Houston TX 77054
Fwd: Hurricane Help
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FW: Katrina Help
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received this email regarding the hurricane victims down south. Just for your info. Mike From: Colleen Pace [AARS] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:30 AM To: Subject: Katrina Help Hello fellow American ~ It feels good to know we have proof that America cares for its own. After going on the Red Cross sight (www.redcross.org) to make a contribution for the Katrina survivors Tuesday night, I attempted to return to the site Wednesday night to see what else I could do ..and couldnt get on. It must have been getting so many hits that it was crashing. But, here is some great news . We now have an address where we can actually ship things to help a clean, dry place with tens of thousands of people in need, and within 350 miles of those survivors who cannot escape. So, here are three ways you can ship truly needed supplies to our southern friends. 1) If you are a member of Quixtar, pump your points by sending a care package from your own catalogs. Our warehousing system is in-place to get the products out immediately. Consumables like toothpaste, baby diapers, etc. or clothing like underwear (both kids and adults!) .whatever. We have everything in our catalogs so lets make September our biggest point month ever by giving to this effort! If you are not a Quixtar member and dont know one, you can do one of two really affordable things: 1) Pull together from your own home things families can use down there including toys your kids have outgrown! Can you imagine caring for a 3-year-old inside the Astrodome?! 2) Go to your local Goodwill Store and help those folks the same time youre helping the folks that were cleaned out by Katrina! If its been a while since youve been inside a Goodwill store (or never have been), then this is a great time to find how much really good, like-brand-new stuff is there REALLY cheap. Heres the Address. Use this heading so the receivers know it is all coming from this one campaign. That way, if they need special things, or are receiving too much of a particular thing, they can ask the media to speak to our group directly! Our Group refers all the people across the nation who got hooked on the giving from one of those silly e-mail send-alongs! It will be fun to see where-all the e-mail goes. Address: From Your Friends Across the Nation c/o American Red Cross Houston Astrodome 8400 Kirby Drive Houston TX 77054 Finally, they are saying that these families will not be able to return to their homes for months. If it were me, I would want nothing more than to go back to my home broken or gone as it may be. But, if the Red Cross learns that these people truly need to be placed, and if you have a room and want to consider being a foster family, write to the same address and title it Foster Family c/o Red Cross at the Astrodome. If we use the Astrodome as the one delivery point, our info will not be going to a million Red Cross centers across the nation, and I suspect the NFL will offer some employees to help care for the incoming mail and packages. So there it is. Pass this on to EVERYONE on your e-mail list, and enjoy seeing yourself being part of a real help! Love you, love them, love America! === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 ;nbs p;nb sp; Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Help Hurricane Equine Refugees: Shelter and Vet Services Needed
This message is from: Curt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Forwarded Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 31, 2005 5:52 PM Shelter and Vet Services Needed for Hurricane Katrina's Equine Refugees Place Your Facility on the USEF Hurricane Equine Relief List (Lexington, KY) - As Americans view the newscasts of the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina it is clear that both humans and animals require immediate emergency relief from not only official agencies but from the generosity of individuals. If you have a facility or pasture which you can offer to house refugee horses and ponies, victims of Hurricane Katrina, please email your name, address, phone number and email address to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], or at 859-225-6993, (please email if at all possible as we expect a heavy load of calls.) If you can volunteer veterinary services please submit your contact information. The USEF is posting a listing by state of these facilities and services for horses and ponies on our website. The list will be accessed by going to http://www.usef.org, on the right side of the homepage click on Hurricane Katrina Equine Relief. It is expected to be operational by tonight, August 31st. We urge the participation of anyone who has the space, licensed veterinary expertise and tenderness of heart to help these equine refugees.
Emergency Help
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cynthia Madden Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:19 AM To: FH-L Subject: Herald Geldings This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just received my Herald. It took just a long last time. I think Mike is getting the problem resolved. With new editors and new mailing permits, may be all get our Heralds on a timely basis! Geldings: Valerie, I liked your comment about geldings. CM from High Mesa Fjords...where geldings thrive! -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 An unconscious people, an indoctrinated people, a people fed only on partisan information and opinion that confirm their own bias, a people made morbidly obese in mind and spirit by the junk food of propaganda, is less inclined to put up a fight, to ask questions and be skeptical. That kind of orthodoxy can kill a democracy - or worse. - Bill Moyers, National Conference on Media Reform St. Louis, Missouri May 15, 2005
Re: Re: Need emergency help
This message is from: cynthia vallecillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spoke with Gerald last night and Ellie and Roy have returned home. Ellie's injuries include a broken wrist, a head injury and cuts and bruises. It is expected to take her some time to recover from her injuries. Her husband Roy sustained some cuts and bruises. As I get more information I will let you know. Cindy --- Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cindy, I got ahold of Gerald allready. What needed to be done is done. If you see Gerald maybe you can find out more? Kmac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees From: cynthia vallecillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Re: Need emergency help Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) This message is from: cynthia vallecillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of the Peninsula Carriage Driving Club. I beleive that Ellie and her husband are in Europe on a driving vacation. I can try and get a hold of someone who may have a way of contacting her. Please let me know if you need me to do so. Cindy Vallecillo San Bruno, CA --- Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Yes i see this msg. I got in very late last nite + saw the orig message. I will contact Ellie, she lives near Woodside, Ca and is very active in the Peninsula Carriage Club. Thanks Jean. Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original Message Follows From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Re: Need emergency help Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:22:15 -0800 This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail says she got the help she asked for. Now, according to THIS message she wants to contact Karen McCarthy or Northern California Driving people: Read message below. Karen are you reading this? the message I got personally from her (in garbled HTML) Said Jim showed atrial ventricular blockage, had a broken foot. Gail had Contusions (scrapes and scratches?) That is all I know for now. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska t At 11:55 PM 8/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Here is a message I sent my daughter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need to e-mail her for some reason it should work. |If it comes back, take out the period.\ Way at the bottom I put in a message to you to contact Karen McCarthy or some Northern California driving club peoplethey have a website.to see if anyone knows Ellie Ferrari. The combined driving list might know, but I would not post there. This will ruin Coaching in Bavaria anywayworse if CD L gets ahold of it. It was a green horse ...wheeler in a four up. I need Ellies address to see if I can contact her. I may not have internet access for the rest of the day. Going to hospital next. Gail Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: Re: Re: Need emergency help
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of the Peninsula Carriage Driving Club. I beleive that Ellie and her husband are in Europe on a driving vacation. I can try and get a hold of someone who may have a way of contacting her. Please let me know if you need me to do so. We were on the same trip. In the same Carrige accident. She went to a different hospital. I am not sure whether she continued on with the trip, or went home. I have e mailed her to try to find out what she did. We are going homeafter I learned how to be an amateur cardiologist! Gail
Re: Re: Need emergency help
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cindy, I got ahold of Gerald allready. What needed to be done is done. If you see Gerald maybe you can find out more? Kmac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees From: cynthia vallecillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Re: Need emergency help Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) This message is from: cynthia vallecillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of the Peninsula Carriage Driving Club. I beleive that Ellie and her husband are in Europe on a driving vacation. I can try and get a hold of someone who may have a way of contacting her. Please let me know if you need me to do so. Cindy Vallecillo San Bruno, CA --- Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Yes i see this msg. I got in very late last nite + saw the orig message. I will contact Ellie, she lives near Woodside, Ca and is very active in the Peninsula Carriage Club. Thanks Jean. Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original Message Follows From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Re: Need emergency help Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:22:15 -0800 This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail says she got the help she asked for. Now, according to THIS message she wants to contact Karen McCarthy or Northern California Driving people: Read message below. Karen are you reading this? the message I got personally from her (in garbled HTML) Said Jim showed atrial ventricular blockage, had a broken foot. Gail had Contusions (scrapes and scratches?) That is all I know for now. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska t At 11:55 PM 8/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Here is a message I sent my daughter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need to e-mail her for some reason it should work. |If it comes back, take out the period.\ Way at the bottom I put in a message to you to contact Karen McCarthy or some Northern California driving club peoplethey have a website.to see if anyone knows Ellie Ferrari. The combined driving list might know, but I would not post there. This will ruin Coaching in Bavaria anywayworse if CD L gets ahold of it. It was a green horse ...wheeler in a four up. I need Ellies address to see if I can contact her. I may not have internet access for the rest of the day. Going to hospital next. Gail Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: Need emergency help
This message is from: Nan Lewis Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I talked to Vera at Kaiser Permanente in CA and she gave me the following info for you: Call 1-225-552-4737 and then enter the access code for the country you are visiting. She didn't have the access code but according to my phone book it is 43. Good luck. Regards, Nan L-S Harvard, MA On 8/14/05 9:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone who sees this get for me the international kaiser permanente emergencz care phone number. jim and i are in Austria. A bad carriage aqccident, but now thez have discovered a heart jproblem in jim. I have the uS snumbers, but nokt the internatioal.##++ Here is the US number 800-227-2415 If in CA, 800-772-3532 I think I have the number, but it is in my luggage. ## CAn someone e mail it back the list list ASAP I am still searching the internet for it. but kaiser keeps it a secret.## if thez want a member number 10646489 we are in a hospital in vienna.
Re: Need emergency help
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gail, You didn't put your name on your message..For everyone who may not know, this is Gail Russell and her husband Jim. I pray that everything turns out OK.. Please keep in touch, and when you can, tell us what happened! Jean in smoky Fairbanks, Alaska, where is is record heat again and smoky from wildfires. will be 85 degrees today again. IAt 06:04 AM 8/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone who sees this get for me the international kaiser permanente emergencz care phone number. jim and i are in Austria. A bad carriage aqccident, but now thez have discovered a heart jproblem in jim. I have the uS snumbers, but nokt the internatioal.##++ Here is the US number 800-227-2415 If in CA, 800-772-3532 I think I have the number, but it is in my luggage. ## CAn someone e mail it back the list list ASAP I am still searching the internet for it. but kaiser keeps it a secret.## if thez want a member number 10646489 we are in a hospital in vienna.
Re: Need emergency help
This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] HMM, I just tried the Kaiser link posted here and it didn't work either... but if I type it fresh into the Internet address box it does... so try that... type in www.kaiserpermanent.org and your enter box should pop up. Good luck! Ruthie, nw mt US - Original Message - From: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Need emergency help This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone who sees this get for me the international kaiser permanente emergencz care phone number. jim and i are in Austria. A bad carriage aqccident, but now thez have discovered a heart jproblem in jim. I have the uS snumbers, but nokt the internatioal.##++ Here is the US number 800-227-2415 If in CA, 800-772-3532 I think I have the number, but it is in my luggage. ## CAn someone e mail it back the list list ASAP I am still searching the internet for it. but kaiser keeps it a secret.## if thez want a member number 10646489 we are in a hospital in vienna. IT APPEARS THAT the search engine shows an e that shouldn't be there... so it's active, it should be www.kaiserpermanent.org I would have needed your password in order to enter... the policy number wasn't enough. I do see one number for support.. 1-877-752-4737 and maybe they could transfer you. My prayer is with you! Ruthie, nw mt US
Lurker needs Help
This message is from: Kasey Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, I am Kasey Ashley from sunny California. I have owned my Fjord, Trond for over 10 years. Trond rides western and english, drives, jumps, and is a main stay of a part time lesson program. Just so that you all know that some Fjords do get out there in other venues - Trond was the high point champion in the Pacific Saddlebred Horse Association for walk/trot pony in the late 90s with my great niece who was 10 that year. As you may have guessed, I also own saddlebreds. Most California saddlebred owners know Trond as he has been around their show circuit for years. My real reason for writing to the list is I am taking Trond to the Libby show this year. I am coming by myself and can't do the 24 hour drive in one day. Go figure. So I need a place for Trond to spend the night in the Bend, OR or Redmond, OR area. Does anyone know of a decent place that will take an overnight boarder? I enjoy the list and enjoy my Fjord lots more. Kasey
Re: attention help for Blue Earth
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pat, I got ya covered. Linda
Re: attention help for Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am asking if there is anyone who is coming to the Blue Earth show could bring two sets of jump standards and four poles to use in the hunter hack classes and one driving class.. I cannot get another thing in my trailers. IF anyone can help with this problem can you contact me privately. THANK YOU Pat Holland
Glad I could help!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/5/05 12:54:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are those DONKEYS ? one of them sweetly ( and loudly ) asked her buddys as they snarfed up most of the Snickers in the bowl. Of course this brought them to laughing and high fives all around until one of them spotted the video tape running on my other table.of GALE WARE and DUSTY running a reining pattern and doing world class spins ect. WHO's THAT as their smart @^ mouths dropped open. Well ladies, since you apparently dont speak much ENGLISH, only WESTERN g ,that would be one of our Fjord breeders riding her Stallion and doing some Cowboy dressage. Thats a STALLION ? Where does she live ? How old is he ? How did she train him like that ? on and on, and on.anyway, the little make-up QUEEN's left my booth about 20 min. later with a new-found respect of my donkeys. Not sure if my mood will hold tomorrow, but Im betting they will be back to watch more video. Lisa, I LOVE it when that happens!! Dusty has opened the eyes of a lot of folks like that. Out of curiosity, what tape were you showing? Here's proof that there really is a God - if they did snarf up all of your Snickers, know that by next week they all should have pimples on their faces and will need even more of that make-up to cover them up! LOL!! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
Re: help on information on a horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/11/2005 7:52:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brigid: When I borrowed the Destron scanner from NFHR, I tried to scan all the animals I have here that are AVID chipped and it did not read anything at all. It showed no sign of the chip. On the animals that have the Home again chip, it read it fine. So that scanner did NOT read any sign of the AVID chip. Just my observation, Rondi.
Re: help on information on a horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/12/2005 6:42:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I borrowed the Destron scanner from NFHR, I tried to scan all the animals I have here that are AVID chipped and it did not read anything at all. It showed no sign of the chip. On the animals that have the Home again chip, it read it fine. So that scanner did NOT read any sign of the AVID chip. Hi Rondi- Thanks for letting me know. The web site claims that the chip can be read by a Destron scanner, but perhaps that only refers to the latest chips with more advanced technology. Or, it's a mistake ;-) I'm happy that my boys have the AVID freeze brand because it's my understanding that any visible mark deters theft. Brigid
Re: help on information on a horse
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:46 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lisa- According to AVID's web site, the chip should be readable by a Destron scanner. It's worth it to have your vet or anyone else who has a universal scanner go over her, just in case. The chip should be in the neck. The older Destron scanners will only read Destron chips. So it depends on how old your scanner is. You Vet may have an AVID scanner. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help on information on a horse
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:47 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/11/2005 7:32:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My PMU mare has a brand that looks like it could be an A on top of a V on her right shoulder. It is very faint and hard to see. I am hoping it is clearer when she sheds out. I tried scanning her with my scanner and did not get anything. I ran the scanner on both sides of her neck. Should I have looked elsewhere? Do I need a different scanner. I have a destron scanner. My understaning is that the Destron scanner can not read the Avid chip. And I am told that the Avid scanner can not read the Home Again chip, so it is kind of a dilemma. When we lived in Michigan, everybody used Home Again chips and here in California they use mostly Avid. So half of my animals have Home Again chips and the others have Avid chips. Wish there was one scanner for all. Both companies now make scanners that will read either the Destron (same as the Home Again) or Avid chips now. The old ones didn't work that way though. The NFHR has one of the Avid scanners that will read both brands. However it won't read the very old Destron chips - the old ones were a different frequency than the currently used ones are. Mike Rondi. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
