FLUXLIST: Hommage to John Bennett - k raD Dar k/sing sing for george jones

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

for George Jones & his song "Time Don't Mean a Thing to Me (I've Got Life to Go)
sing   sing
  sin   sin
    in   in
  i   i
   in   in
 sin   sin
sing   sing   (keep repeating, ad infinitum--)
hop   hop
 op   op
   o   o
 op  op
hop  hop  vers la lumiere! 
 
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>Subject: FLUXLIST: Hommage to John Bennett - k raD Dar k 
>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:59:10 -0500 
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Re: FLUXLIST: REMOVE

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

rove me
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>move over 
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FLUXLIST: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CYD CHARISSE

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

hAPPY bIRTHDAY tODAY TO cYD cHARISSE!
 
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Re: FLUXLIST: owed re woven

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Madawg!
Thank you for the beautiful weaving!--
working on poem to send for more collaborations--
many pieces have done--made by using lines from texts in call and responses for scores for voices--many are on web, you can see by search of my name--(sorry have no memory for addresses)--
great favorite in this line is William Burroughs, the cut up method he and Brion Gysin worked with--great examples and discussionsof this in THE THIRD MIND and also in THE BURROUGHS FILE and interviews in THE JOB--MINUTES TO GO by Gysin--
the way i started doing this, wd get a rhythm in the head--and wd trigger phrases--so wd open a book, which wd suggest another--and use two to three and even four--to go back and forth choosing words to make new phrases--a combination of chance, intuition and cutting and pasting in a sense--collaging--with the rhythms/voices in head--some have been performed hither and yon--
one cd make plays this way also--last night was trying out loud for fun lines from Shakespeare's TRAGEDY OF RICHARD THE THIRD and Jarry's UBU ROI--throwing in lines of one's own in a mix of french and english phrases and sounds--moving into sound poetry a bit--imagining encounters between the demented blood thirsty lame hunchback Richard and Ubu with his belly that he pusheth forth into the universe!--
the cyber cafe i write from is called BLUE DAWG BAGELS--a cousin perhaps of Madawg, this Blue Dawg? --
or "Mad Dog"--old slang for MD what is it, 40? or 20/20?--that liquor they call "liquid heroin"--
"they are trying to make me forget my amnesia"--Carl Solomon
 
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>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: owed re woven 
>Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:21:24 EST 
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>gulls gulls by gallows fly 
>ralphing bob 
>hanging body to dry waves 
>gush among trash and wind the cry 
>brilliant of gulls 
>and unseeing eye 
> 
>poem by David Chirot and Madawg woven together to make one poem. I rewove it 
>to include all the words-sometimes words will hide behind other words when 
>actually weaving. If anyone has a poem- the longer the better- I will write a 
>response and then weave it- Madawg 
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Re: FLUXLIST: plastic words

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

plastic is also a bomb
"propaganda of the deed"
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>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: plastic words 
>Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:09:14 -0500 
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>Naugahyde, Corynthian Leather, nylon, polymer, acrylic, ... 
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>   In a message dated 2/27/04 9:28:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
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> I'd like to compile a list of words for plastic: bakelite, pleather, acrylic, cellophane, etc. 
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>   catelin (not sure of spelling) 
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Re: FLUXLIST: words/SPAM IS "MAPS" BACKWO/ARDS!

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

oh yes--
and bob upside down back wo/ards is--POP!
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>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: words/SPAM IS "MAPS" BACKWO/ARDS! 
>Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:00:49 EST 
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>In a message dated 2/27/04 12:13:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
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> > does spam mean anything? is it maps? 
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>wow!! is wow either way but its mom upsidedown--by Gwadam 
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Re: FLUXLIST: words/SPAM IS "MAPS" BACKWO/ARDS!

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

HO HO HO
quoth the ravin'
spam is maps backwo/ards so perhaps--leads some where!
(straight to consumerism--buy spam! great for sandwiches--with wonder bread--and twinkies, with their shelf life of eons--)
luckily receive hardly any spam at all--no maps--except for images from singles services:
photo of a woman--is this type you are looking for?  (didn't ask for any in first place)--
lo and behold--half hour later and photo of same woman with underneath--name and lives in florida--her comments on chat rooms--(which one has never been to--)
am expecting to continue encountering this same person as astrologist, biologist, photojournalist, the girl next door, movie star, assistant secretary of defense, provost of top university, cutting edge comix artist, beauty queen, CEO, dancer--pursuant doppleganger in drag?--
does spam mean anything? is it maps?
a code, a coda, a codex, a dna spiral of sorts?  fractals of order beached along oceans of chaos?
one tends to find signs everywhere:
looking out window--truck with logo FORTUNE FISH COMPANY
since i am a pisces, this must mean something astrologically!--and on marquee across street at music club:   February 28:  DADA
the 28 is my birthday, so i know it will have both fortune and be dada!
the truck says fortune means fish company--will be celebrating with other pisces?--is the person in photo a pisces? a dada? 
spam . . . maps-- but then pisces is two fish going in opposite directions--so what good does spam maps do?   nada, says dada-- go fish says the fortune--   don't mingle with the singles  says the company--  the driver left the keys in the truck--who needs maps, spam--let's scram!
 
 
>From: "John M. Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: words 
>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:18:46 -0500 
> 
>Yeas, spam has been a great delight lately.  Lots of folks playing 
>with it as literary source, too. 
> 
>Yr discovery is interesting.  Perhaps it means, as I have suspected, 
>that the random words and/or letters strings are the result of some 
>kind of network spam filtering?  Don't know... 
> 
>Onword, 
>Johnee Spammy 
> 
>At 04:47 PM 2/26/2004 -0500, you wrote: 
>>Hello Mr. Bennett, 
>>You have such juicy words. I recently found a good supply of great 
>>strings of saucy words-- 
>>They come in spam mail that I get from people trying to sell me 
>>things. There is usually a short string of words following the 
>>viagra or vicodin or cable or debt consolidation offer in the 
>>subject, I found if you highlight the subject line and paste it 
>>elsewhere a longer services of ineluctable words follows at the 
>>end, For instance I highlighted: 
>> 
>>Subject: Re: YOUR CABLE TV SUBSCRIPTION, coddle saucy comply voodoo 
>> 
>>and pasted it here: 
>> 
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Re: FLUXLIST: owed to John Bennett

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

gulls by gallows fly
hanging body out to dry
among trash and wind the cry
of gulls and unseeing eye
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>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: owed to John Bennett 
>Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:08:51 EST 
> 
>gulls bob 
>ralphing waves 
>gush 
>brilliant 
> 
>by 
>Madawg 
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FLUXLIST: may someone explain the card project?

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Friends and Fellow Workers:
Might someone explain how the Fluxus card project works?--would appreciate this--
"We need to see your identification card"
library card, social security card, Forward card, Quest Card, driver's license card, death card, card shark, a real card, house of cards--"the Cards are winning 3-2 in the bottom of the eighth"--(3 homers by Albert Pujols)--Tarot cards--phone cards--
many thanks--deal me a card--"Franke Machine, the Man with the Golden Arm"--
 
>From: "LeClaire, Candace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: FLUXLIST: Message for Georg,Crispin,& Don Boyd 
>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:47:32 -0500 
> 
>Sorry to post this to the list everyone, but I have some email address book 
>trouble... 
>While I'm at it - anyone feel like submitting some cards/games for the 
>Fluxus card project??? 
> 
>Georg, 
>I lost three seperate auctions on ebay! Feel like making a tape? How can I 
>return the favour? 
> 
>Don, 
>Thanks so much for the beautiful announcement. It was a pleasant surprise in 
>my mailbox (I also appreciated the St. Valentine's stamp)!  As for the card 
>project: I have two cards (I have them labeled as: "2 Hearts" & "8 Spades") 
>from you and one from Crispin (Labeled "Fluxus Smiles"). 
> 
>Crispin, 
>Nice web site. I really like your sculptures too. I hope the show is going 
>well! 
>Also, for the card project, I initially received two emails from you 
>containing items from both you and Don. The items I have on disk are 
>described above. However, there are a couple of other files that have been 
>corrupted and I can't access them...I think they came from the email you 
>sent with the images posted on a web link. Were these cards in addition to 
>the ones above, or were they the same images?  Can you make sense of what I 
>am asking? 
> 
>Thanks! Candace. 
> 
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FLUXLIST: gnomenclature

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Thank you so much for the links to the gnome sites!
Have been thinking and imagining what the liberartion front is--who--and also appreciated the irony mentioned by the cop--that the liberated gnomes wind up being kept at the prison!
(Will there be a gnome prison break? Gnomes holding guards hostage? Tunneling under walls to reapper on yet other lawns--the President's, the Mayor's--or just getting homesick for the old familiar lawn--or seeking revenge on the liberators whose actions had them packed off to prison?
You kow how it is, once you get a subject, a word, on the brain--starts popping up everywhere!
After looking at gnome sites, doing research on Celine and Lautreamont--and came across this description of Celine's books:
 
  His novels are verbal frescoes peopled with horrendous giants, paraplegics, and gnomes,
  and are filled with scenes of dismemberment and murder.
 
The gnomes are everywhere, "they walk among us" as old sci-fi film had it!
 Have yet to see one, though--have seen many various other monsters, trolls, zombies, Elvises, aliens, but so far no gnomes--just have to keep riding the bus! Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. 

FLUXLIST: Masks & Gnomes & Hats & Ties: sounds like a formal bal masque!

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Amy BC--abc--
i have visions of the gnome sallying forth in hat tie and mask--! off to bal masque--
i found a mask on street this morning--a purple glitter one for what one assumes a child's party--without the elastic to hold it aboard the head--
i think it wd be interesting to have a death's head mask made of oneself--and wear that about--would people mourns for one? memorialize one in odes?--place one on a pedestal?--be one of the living dead?--as a walking question to many who are--
i know the gnome is gone, but would have liked to take it to the zoo!--stand among the penguins at the entrance--
this is a sort of flux event--a joke my mother told me--but thought of doing something similar with the gnome--who wd be in hat tie and mask perhaps for the occaision--
Man with fifty penguins calls a fella with a truck, says he will give him money to take the penguins to the zoo for him--
the fella comes early in the morning. loads up the penguins and takes the money for the job--drives off--eight hours later the truck reappears--the fella steps out,opens back and starts bringing out penguins--the man appears--and fella says--oh, here's your change--the man is completely bewildered at first, then very angry--"i thought i said to take those penguins to the zoo"-"oh--i did--and they had an excellent time--you should have seen them--"
>From: "Josh Ronsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: The Mask Event 
>Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:03:14 -0600 
> 
>Amy Baylaurel Casey wrote: 
> 
> >i've always wanted to figure out how to wear 
> >jello... 
> 
>You could: 
> 
>1. put 1000 packs of jello into bathtub full of water, climb in and let it set (perhaps would only work in winter with no heat). When jello sets around you, get out of tub. 
> 
>2. Put gelled jello next to body and wrap yourself up with plastic wrap. I know someone who did this with meat. Jello would probably smell less. 
> 
>In either case, please take pictures! 
> 
>-Josh Ronsen 
>in Austin, Texas 
> 
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> 
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> 
>Need a new email address that people can remember 
>Check out the new EudoraMail at 
>http://www.eudoramail.com 
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FLUXLIST: address for Bern Porter?

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Friends:
 
Is it  possible for anyone to send me address(es) for Bern Porter?
It will be most deeply appreciated
Enjoying the works at web gallery for the show at Harvard!
congratulations to all!
 
onwo/ards!
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FLUXLIST: Happy Birthday William S. Burroughs!

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

90th anniversary of the birth of Bill Burroughs today--
moving among his visual poetries today--THE THIRD MIND, PORTS OF ENTRY--
the routines in ROUTINES and BURROGHS FILE--
listening to
NOTHING LEFT BUT THE RECORDINGS--(very early Sixties)--
El Hombre Invisible--"dim jerky faraway . . . "
Grey presence observing recording painting writing--cutting through--
 
  "Storm the Reality Studio. And retake the universe . . . 
 
  Word falling--Photo falling--Time falling--Break through in Grey Room"
 
Thank you Bill!--and Onwo/ards!--
 
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RE: FLUXLIST: Game of cards, anyone?

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Deal me in--
poker faced among card sharks!--
david-baptiste

From: "LeClaire, Candace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: 'Roger Stevens ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: Game of cards, anyone?
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:47:30 -0500

Thanks for posting that, Roger!
I have been away, and have not been on-line for a few days.
I also want to mention that participants may submit more than one card or
game.  Everyone who "plays" will receive a deck and rule book.
Here's a new game for you, Roger:
GIN
Drink the GIn.
Deal the Cards.
Play the Game.
(Note: Geneva may be used in lieu of Gin. In such case, the game should be
reffered to as GENEVA).
-Original Message-
From: Roger Stevens
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/22/2004 7:40 AM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Game of cards, anyone?
Hi, welcome all you new people to the Fluixlist

Here's a project you might be interested in...

FLUXUS PLAYING CARDS - Candace LeClaire

I am trying to compose a deck of Fluxus playing cards.
From the entries, I will create an edition of 52 cards.
Black and white or colour are fine.

Digital files of playing cards may be emailed to
me off list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(or on-list if you want to share).
You may also send something via post mail to me at :

Candace LeClaire
8114 Devon Street
Philadelphia,
PA 19118
USA
RULES FOR FLUXUS PLAYING CARDS - Roger Stevens

We need rules to play the game. It should be quite interesting writing
the rules before anyone's seen the cards. Terrorist snap, anyone?
Remember a four of Machine Guns always beats a seven of Timing Fuses.
And the King of Hearts is wild. This is because the five of pumpkins has
run off with the Queen of Desire to set up home by the River Severn.
Meanwhile who would make a bid of Six No Frumps?
Send Fluxus games, rules for games and any other odd things that you
think should be in the rulebook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

GENERAL

This project started a long time ago - got kind of lost and run out of
steam a bit - and recently has been revived.
I guess the deadline will be when Candace has received 52 cards.
So, why not have a go. The cards can look like anything, I guess, that's
down to your imagination and creativity.
There'll probably be standard card size and shape - from a practical
playing point of view - but that's probably the only restriction.
So...
Have a go.
XXX
Roger
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RE: FLUXLIST: re:exotic ties traveling the globe

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

having not worn a tie in a very long time
(the ties that bind . . . )
i wd be very glad to wear a tie
and be photographed
(shd the eyes be blanked out as in photos of people not to be identified, or 
identi-tied?--)
my address:

david-baptiste chirot
740 N 29 Street #302
Milwaukee, WI  53208
usa
From: Amy Baylaurel Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST: re:exotic ties traveling the globe
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:46:37 -0800 (PST)
I have in my possession two rather exotic looking
ties, which I will send to two gentleman who would be
willing to wear them out for a day, be photographed,
and then send the tie on to another gentleman who will
do the same.  Hopefully the ties will travel
constantly, and will provide many photos and letters
for a website documenting the journey! Please respond
with your address if you are interested!!
Amy Baylaurel Casey




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FLUXLIST: A new/old subscriber re/introudces oneself--

[David-Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Friends & Fellow Workers
I have been off and on fluxlist for many years--
and pariticapated, contributed to many project
(and having been away for some months, need to catch up on all that has 
happened with some!)
i am a visual poet, sound poet, essayist, painter, story and poem writer--
work with many different mediums and a great many materials found in 
streets--and lot of work just done on streets--rubbings--and in back alleys 
spray paintings using found materials-
for works up on web, you can consult google is easiest way--
the TIMEPIECE project done for fluxlist --for example--21 pp of works done 
over three weeks each at five pm a day at a time--with an intro--
many others--
of late have been doing oil pastel portraits that are pretty crude at best 
but fun to do
and a lot of spontaneous sound poetry
i live in milwaukee, WI usa--
of late has been too cold to work outdoors for the most part
though walk a lot in it--
i first learned of Fluxus back in the 1960's--
and had the honor over the years to meet and converse with john cage and 
dick higgins--
though we didn't talk of fluxus, just things to do with their works--
sounds mainly and sound poetry, visual scores in relation to these as that 
is what interests me a very great deal--
one of my sound scores has been published (14 pp) by traverse press--
ZERO POEM--it is also on the FLUX cd miekal and so wonderfully put together 
of sound pieces by many on this list--
i am open and ready to contribute/collaborate on any projects!
i love doing participatory work
communication/community--
two very big influences on me and my work are Clemente Padin and Bob Cobbing
and also Gudio Vermeuelen and Luc Fierens especially
also Boek861 and Phildelpho Menezes
and the fictional painter Gulley Jimson in Joyce Cary's novel THE HORSE'S 
MOUTH
and Kurt Schwitters of course! and Jean Dubuffet--
a big hello and good to be back!
onwo/ards!
david-baptiste

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FLUXLIST: XI International Poetry Festival of Medellín (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 04:00:29 +0100
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: *Clemente Padin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XI International Poetry Festival of [iso-8859-1] Medellín

A// ENGLISH
B// ESPAÑOL

XI International Poetry Festival of Medellín

I International Exhibition of Experimental Poetry

Submission call

The I International Exhibition of Experimental Poetry in Medellín will
be held from June 2 to
June 9, 2001 in the context of the XI International Poetry Festival of
Medellín, in open and
closed spaces of Medellin’s downtown and will have free and
gratuitous access for all
the community. We are making a submission call to the experimental poets
from around the
world to send their works conceived under the diverse exploratory
tendencies of experimental
poetry such as:

Visual poems (in DIN A4 format).
Videopoems (videotape recordings in VHS, NTSC ).
Gesture poems or poetic performaces (videotape recordings in VHS,
NTSC).
Poetic actions and interventions (videotape recordings in VHS,
NTSC).
Virtual , digital, and Multimedia poetry (CD Rom or attachments in
GIF or JPEG
formats).
Holopoems (or video in VHS – NTSC)
Sound poetry (audiocassete or CD Rom).
The deadline is April 30, 2001 and the works would not be returned
to their authors
because they will be used for other itinerant exhibitions. Each work
must include its
technical specifications, exhibition’s specifications and/or
screening projection
(in case of this are necessary), personal information about the
author and a brief
curriculum . If you send audiocassettes include your photography in
scene.

The works must be send to the following address:

I International Exhibition of Experimental Poetry

XI International Poetry Festival of Medellín

Carrera 40 No. 50A-46

Medellín

COLOMBIA

Telephone Numbers: 57-4-2163826 or 57-4-2165545

Telefax: 57-4-2280443

E-mails:

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A more detailed information about The International Poetry Festival in
Medellín and soon
about the Exhibition can be viewed in the following electronic address:
http://www.epm.net.co/VIIfestivalpoesia/

Nota Bene: it is not a Mail Art´s Call but a Experimental Poetry one.
The Experimental Poetry
is a gender of the Poetry and this of the Literature. All work on
Experimental Poetry should
express through the own instrument of the Literature: the language, in
all or each one of its
dimensions valuing, above all, the new possibilities of expression
generated by the
experimentation in whatever of the possible supports and/or codes.

PLEASE, INVITE TO YOUR POET FRIENDS
B//


   XI Festival Internacional de Poesía en Medellín

 I Exposición Internacional de Poesía Experimental

Convocatoria

La I Exposición Internacional de Poesía Experimental en Medellín, se
realizará de junio 2 al 9
del año 2001, en el contexto del XI Festival Internacional de Poesía de
Medellín, en espacios
abiertos y cerrados del centro de Medellín, y tendrá acceso libre y
gratuito para toda la
comunidad. Se convoca a los poetas experimentales de todo el mundo a
enviar sus trabajos
concebidos bajo las diversas tendencias exploratorias de la poesía
experimental, tales como:

Poemas visuales (formato carta).
Poemas gestuales y performances poéticas (video VHS - NTSC).
Acciones e intervenciones poéticas (video VHS - NTSC).
Videopoemas (video VHS - NTSC).
Poemas virtuales, digitales y multimedia (CD Rom o attachments en
formatos GIF o
JPEG).
Holopoemas (o su registro en CD Rom o video VHS – NTSC).
Poemas sonoros (CD, CD Rom o audiocasette).

La fecha límite será el 30 de abril de 2001 y las obras no serán
devueltas a sus autores porque
serán utilizados en futuras exposiciones itinerantes. Cada obra debe
incluir una ficha técnica,
especificaciones de exhibición y/o proyección (cuando sean necesarias),
datos personales del
autor y un breve curriculum. Si envía audiocasette incluya su foto en
escena.

Las obras deben ser enviadas a:

I Exposición Mundial de Poesía Experimental

XI Festival Internacional de Poesía de Medellín

Carrera 40 No. 50 A- 46

Medellín

COLOMBIA

Teléfonos: 57-4- 2163826 y 57-4- 2165545

Telefax: 57- 4- 2280443

o a los siguientes correos electrónicos:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Una información completa sobre el Festival Internacional de Poesía en
Medellín y
próximamente sobre la Exposición, se puede obtener en la siguiente
dirección electrónica:
http://www.epm.net.co/VIIfestivalpoesia/

Nota bene: no es una convocatoria de Arte Correo sino de Poesía
Experimental. La Poesía
Experimental es un género de la Poesía y ésta de la Literatura. Toda
obra de Poesía
Experimental debe expresarse a través del instrumento propio de la
Literatura: la lengua, en
todas o cada una de sus dimensiones valorando, sobre

FLUXLIST: Welcome to the "SPK_boletin" mailing list! (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Fellow Fluxworkers-

not sure if is okay to send messages in Spanish but some of you
may
find this of interest and want to sign on to this list--

all my best wishes for the New Year--which may come at all
different dates according to which calendar one keeps--tranlsator of some
of my works into Russian just wrote they have two New Years there--New
Style and Old--the latter is the 13 of the january this coming "new year"

or as old friend used to say when asked the time--
"same time just a different day"
or Mexican proverb--
"tomorrow is the most beautiful word in any language" 

one thinks of scarlet o'hara in gone with the wind--tomorrow!
yet is HOPE
so HOPE WE ALL HAVE GOOD NEW YEAR!
and THANK YOU TO ALL
always for the wonderful projects and collaborations
community/communication
may we all continue to work together--
dbc

SPK 001

Bienvenido al Boletín SPK, si lo estás recibiendo en tu buzón es porque 
definitivamente estás interesado en la cultura digital. En este momento mientras 
hablamos, aquí mismo en la redacción de Sputnik se discuten muchos cambios tanto en la 
versión en atómos como en la de bits. Parte de estos son una lista de noticias diarias 
que funcionará de lunes a viernes, para que no te pierdas los baudios y estés al día. 

Algunas de las secciones son:

Noticias * Ciencia y Tecnología * Cultura y Entretenimiento *
Mundo y Estilos de vida * Cultura Digital * Liga del día *
* Foto del día * Y por supuesto el Boletín SPK.

Te recordamos que Sputnik fue la primer revista impresa de cultura digital en México y 
que nosotros no te vamos a hablar simplemente de software y hardware y la bolsa de 
valores. Sputnik te ofrece contenido, input, bytes que toman vida al llegar al otro 
lado del modem. Así que no te desconectes: nos hallas en http:www.sputnik.com.mx y en 
librerías.

Nos vemos en el futuro.

Fran ilich.
Editor sputnik (bits)  
coeditor (átómos)

Solo recibirás un correo en versión .txt, si deseas desuscribirte mándame un correo a 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], y yo personalmente me encargaré de esto.

FLUXLIST: Video and Documentation Crosses of the Earth (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

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Date: 30 Dec 2000 17:43:17 -
From: Hans Braumueller Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Hans Braumueller Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video and Documentation Crosses of the Earth

Hans Braumueller Network - http://www.crosses.net/hans_b

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Hello Friends and Mail Artists,

i have uploaded the video documentation of the installation of my last
mail art networking project "Crosses of the Earth" on
http://www.crosses.net/2000/video 
The music on the video is by ARAK PACHA ( Chile ) and Wittwulf  Y  Malik
( Germany ), Sound Poetry by Gue Schmidt ( Austria ) .

Each participant of this project in Homage to Indigenous People can get a
free copy of this video in VHS PAL or NTSC quality sending me 5 IRC (
International Reply Coupons ) for the postage. Soon i will send the
documentation out to all participants, which includes press material,
participant list, concept and statement from the National Coordination of
Indigenous People in Chile ( CONACIN ), which organized in January 2000
the International Encounter of Arts and Indigenous Culture in Santiago de
Chile, where this project "Crosses of the Earth" takes material form in a
installation in the Museum of Contemporary Art. During the opening a
indigenous spiritual leader ( shaman ) from the Mapuche People performs a
ritual ... 

Overseas participants please take in consideration that i will send next
year all documentation by surface mail, time by time, not all at once,
because here in Germany we have a very expensive post service.

Everyone who have not participate on this project and who wants receive a
copy of this video, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Hans Braumüller


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FLUXLIST: Eyes into Distances

[David Baptiste Chirot]

EYES INTO DISTANCES


a score for voices


For now we see

no eye could be

more perfect eye


through a glass

chaos of visual
lives and moves


clearer brighter eye
nothing to create


darkly, but then

in impressions different
visual instant making

nothing but gaze
beyond far remote


face to face

making eyes endlessly
occurences away

entities appeared in regions
visible myriads seeing

now i know
in part 

moving away from copying
discovering within chaos

seeing is a meeting
between eye and being
. . . facing of two beings

even as also

potential point visual
succesive points action

seeing beyond being 
clarity transparent

but then
shall i know

result of movement
its dimensions growing

being to being

I am known

most vividly present
now a series scattere

eyes into distances
seeing only eyes





words from
St Paul, Corinthians
Dziga Vertov, Kino Eye
Yukio Mishima, The Decay of the Angel
1st chapter

arrangements 
david baptiste chirot

FLUXLIST: news in the web boek861 (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:00:35 +0100
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: *boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: news in the web boek861

A// ESPAÑOL
B// INGLES

*NOVEDADES EN LA WEB
http://www.fut.es/~boek861

//CONVOCATORIA MAIL ART ANMISTIA INTERNACIONAL/AUMA
-Las fotografías de esta exposión estan disponibles on-line
http://www.fut.es/~boek861/amnistia.htm
(Los catálogos fueron enviados por correo postal a todos los
participantes con fecha 11-12-2000)

//DICCIONARIO MAGICO Y OCULTO DEL MAIL ART Y LA POESIA VISUAL
-Con nuevo formato técnico, ampliado y revisado.

//DEBATE MAIL ART
-Nuevos participantes

//BIENAL INTERNACIONAL DE POESIA VISUAL Y EXPERIMENTAL VIRTUAL/MEXICO
-Bases

//LA POESIA EXPERIMENTAL LATINOAMERICANA/CLEMENTE PADIN
-Próxima edición on-line del libro integro
---

B//

*NEWS IN THE WEB
http://www.fut.es/~boek861

//CALL MAIL ART AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL-AUMA
-The photographies of de exhibition of this call of mail art are
available on-line
http://www.fut.es/~boek861/amnistia.htm
(On december the 11 of 2000 were sent the catalogues for mail to the
participants)

//MAIL ART DEBATE
-New participants

//INTERNATIONAL BIENNAL OF VISUAL POETRY AND EXPERIMENTAL VIRTUAL/MEXICO

-Bases

//THE EXPERIMENTAL POETRY IN LATINOAMERICA/CLEMENTE PADIN
-In a short periode of time the whole book, will be on-line in this web
site.


http://www.fut.es/~boek861

Re: FLUXLIST: Painting

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Thank you Aaron for your letter.

as noted in my response to the original question re 
painting
earliest art forms are visual poetry--the cave paintings,
petroglyphs
also the amazing Goddess/Earth Mother figures found throughout
the world


art/fertility/earth mother!

h--

and noted all this painting activity going on continually in 
streets amongst which live here in milwaukee--and in me
own work/eating/sleeping/smoking room here

painting then--is at once "timeless","time honored" &
"timely"

hence in a sense "always on time"!

as part of ongoing rhythms of human seeming
desire, compulsion, fascination, dedication to--marking, making notations
visual, verbal vocal, musical, gestural

"the dance of life"

should note since someone mentioned Baudelaire,
that it is in his essay on Constantin Guys, "THE PAINTER OF MODERN
LIFE"

that Baudelaire gives the first definition of modernity:

"The (painter's--poet's, artist's) business is to seperate from
contemporary fashion whatever it may contain of poetry within history;
to extract the eternal from the ephemeral."

in MY HEART LAID BARE AND OTHER PROSE WRITINGS
Edited with an Introduction by Peter Quennell; translation by
Norman Cameron  
(New York:  Vanguard, 1951, p.37)

By the "eternal" Baudelaire does not mean some Platonic Ideal of
Beauty, but something rooted deeply in the reality of its own time--
the documentary aspect of presenting things in their present state, which
in the study of "rock art" (not rock music album or cd covers, but cave
paintings, petroglyphs, Goddesses--) what is called"taphonomy"--the study
of things in their present state"--whether that be "brand new"--or
dilapidated, corroded, fragmented--patinaed by time--Duchamp's"Large Glass"
as landing strip for dust for example--

Baudelaire intends an intersection of the documentary presentation
of the taphonomic present--and that which as well cuts across layers of
time, as say a long vanished river cut for eons swathe of evidence
through landscape and left behind bared strata up on strata--

palimpsests, strata--and the documentary

the intersection of the ephemeral/eternal--which is not some
vanished Ideal or elusive one, but rather one PRESENT
in the work--

"This ephemeral and fugitive element, subject to so
frequent metamorphoses, is not to be despised or ignored.  By disregarding
it, you necessarily fall into the void of a beauty abstract
as that one woman who lived before the first sin was committed."

(hmmm--well, I don't feel I have to apologize for Baudelaire--his
views in this regard with women are--well known--and a complicated k/not
enough to untangle what with the labyrinthine junctures of his personality,
hois psychology, the period and culture he lived in and so on . . .)

Another view of the "fugitive" in relation to the "fixed" may be
found in the introduction to William S.Burroughs' JUNKIE (first published
by Ace Book, NYC, 1953 under the pseudonym William Lee--)

Burroughs has included a "Glossary" of  drug addict slang for the
reader of his pretty much dead pan Dashiell Hammett-styled "docu-fiction" 
of way of life of a junkie--for the "docu"aspect read--autobio--)

("I have learned the junk equation . . . Junk s a way of life."
. . . as is Baudelaire's portrait of Constantin Guys' way of life and
working  as "the
painter of
modern life"--)

final comment re the "fixity' of " Glossary" and its
"fugitive"/"ephemeral elements--words & their definitions-

"Not only do the words change meanings but meanings vary locally
at the same time.  A final glossary, therefore, cannot be made of words
whose
intentions are fugitive."

(New York:  An Ace Star Book, pp. 11. 17; this is a 1967
reprint under the name William S. Burroughs, noting previous edition as
being under "pen-name of William Lee"--the current in-print edition is
from
Penguin/Viking)--

This juncture of the fixed/fugitive, eternal/ephemeral as a
both/and rather than either/or--

a both/and AT THE SAME TIME--

is that of light, what Einstein famously posited as the constant
in the universe for the measurement of SPACE/TIME--another both/and--

that is, light is simultaneously particle and wave--

the particular particle of this painting now--and that painting
which is wave movement from "time immemorial" of ever older and older
works
being found around the world--to those works being produced "as one
speaks/writes/reads"--


The current--well already the tradition being a good thirty years
old by now--fascination and cliche of "the death of the author", "the end
game of art", "the death of the avant-garde" and so on--

is basically a 

Re: FLUXLIST: To Name

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Estimado pez:

many thanks for your wonderful prhasings--

"obsolete paraphernalia from a hat"!

as there is also myth of Dada being name "pulled out of hat"!



On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, narvis & ...pez wrote:

> At 03:50 pm +0100 12/12/00, Eric Andersen wrote:
> 
> >Here it seems that people much more are looking for a
> >stereotyped legend.
> 
> recognition of old forms
> it's not a wrong way to newones.
> 
"It is not the elements which are new, but the order of
 their arrangement."

--Blaise Pascal

"A Dadaist is someone  who loves life in all its
uncountable forms, and who knows, and says, that
'Life is not here alone, but also there, there,
there (in german: da, da, da).'" 

--Johannes Baader, Oberdada of Berlin, in
Die freie Strasse, December 1918 issue

quoted in DADA ART AND ANTI-ART
by Hans Richter  (New York:  McGraw Hill)
p. 215

> perhaps there are only opinions
> about who, when or where was correct or not
> mere like or dislike
> about all this junk "in & out"  from fifties.
> 
> obsolete paraphernalia from a hat
> reborn again & again in new & unexpected
> forms & places like maracay!!!
> 
> for instance, fluxus is alive
> with beuys myth included
> 
> ok, why not ?
> 
> ...pez
> 
>   dada baptiste chirot
>   

Re: FLUXLIST: Mafia Names

[David Baptiste Chirot]

lived for years in mafia neighborhood in
Somerville, MA
my nickname was "Kid"--

i kid you not--

dbchirot

FLUXLIST: 5000 (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

I am proud to announce you that past week the site The House of the Small 
Languages" got over the 5000 visitors.
J'ai le plaisir et la joie de vous annoncer que la semaine derniere le site 
The House of the Small Languages" a passe les 5000  visteurs.
Ik heb de vreugde U aan te kondigen dat vorige week de site The House of 
the Small Languages" de 5000 bezoekers bereikt heeft.
___
 
Patrick-Henri BurgaudZypendaalseweg 756814 CE Arnhemthe 
Netherlandstel + fax: (00 31) 26 3707370http://www.burgaud.orghttp://www.burgaud.demon.nl

Re: FLUXLIST: Painting

[David Baptiste Chirot]

well--oldest art forms are visual poetry, panting, really--

cave paintings, petroglyphs, objects -fetishes of Goddesses--

is painting relevant?  

well--i started off as a housepainter, moved on to grafitti and
now do visual poetry using spray paint, housepaint, model cars
paints, basically any kind of paint that is found in trash or 
at hardware store, for cheap--

why would painting be irrelevent coming from such contexts?
compared to what that is "relevant"

living language--my goodness, darn painting sprouting up all over
the neighborhood! house painting, mysterious languages of 
surveyors painting numbers and signs on streets by 
construction sites, chalk paintings, drawings mixed with spray 
paint by girls skipping rope or in winter--kids spray painting
every mail box, telephone pole, USA TODAY or local newspaper boxes
--hand made signs advertising small businesses, yard sales,
gigs by local bads, with psychedelic or wildly collaged paintings
--itinerent portrait painter who has signs all over the place and
often stands out on street with palette and brushes in hand--
construction site painters applying rust proof paint to sites
to mark out CAUTION --HARD HAT AREA--in stenciled letters on 
flourescent yellow or orange backgrounds, hastily done
while backhoes hard at work tearing up creaky old
potholed streets troubled by heaving cracked and marred tar
surfaces in process of being redone--only to crack and corrode yet
again with next spate of cold and wet weather--
large biceped men with beards and leather vests over tatooed chests,
sprouting ear rings, nose rings, tongue rings--their
skinny leather clad female colleagues--painting exotic logos for
the latest of two dozen within eight blocks tattoo parlors--
skate board kids painting talismanic and obscure protesting 
FREEDOM TO SKATE slogans on sidewalks--
even "sunday painters"--gentle dreaming men and women in front
of easels staring out to the Lake Michigan shore lines, into 
the meeting place of the sky and water at horizon but dimly
glimpsed in blurred gradations of water in various
states--ice, water, mist, cloud, fog--and water colors!

or Prophet Blackmon--Preacher and cobbler who paints visions from
dreams inspired by the Bible and tells one [psychic readings for
free simply y shaking one's hand--hand littered paintings with Bible
verses depicting Black angels, prophets, Jesuses, Marys--Jamaican
dj with dirty jacket and deep accent booming along with boombox painting
his signboards for sandwich boards and walls--of colorful jamaican dance
hall stylee scenes--hot couples sweating into each other holding Red Cap
Ale--or Jamaican beers--and lips locked in synch with dub
beats--billboards going up

latest one over looking pentagram intersection of five
streets--three bars, bank and liquor store marking out the
points of its star--
huge billboard painted and papered up--
van gogh with bandaged ear, and other good ear so to speak--glued to
telephone

IF VAN GOGH COULD HAVE MADE ONE CALL!
and the hotline number for Wisconsin Association of Mental
Health--in back ground diligent copyist painter marking out famous
last painting of van gogh's--
crows infield--
where he shot himself

yes--if he could have made one call!

was his painting "a living language"still"--
or simply "still life/nature morte" landscape of man no one
bought paintings by?

just a dead madman?

is painting a living language?

if done by living people on sites among other living people?

or is painting simply that "dead language" relegated to entombment
and classifications in museums?

or private collections?

or the rhetoric of art criticism: the "endgame" of art, "the death
of
the author/avant garde/painting/God/received opinions of the previous
generation/etc" --the shelf life of a Twinkie--being "longer" perhaps than
radioactive half lives let alone the thousands and thousands of years of now
"dead language"of painting, despite its continual appearance "before our very
eyes"--in such mundane yet exciting situations, sites--as street corners,
Lakesides, construction/destruction sites, yellow painted lines down middle
of roads--painted out by slow but steady patient truck with giant
funnel pouring down paint like so much concrete into the world,
yellow as daffodils in spring, dotting landscape of concrete, tar  and
macadam--

a rhetorical question!

designed for further rhetorics--

usually, a "dead language" is one such as Latin, though spoken by
living persons, is not the actual fr

Re: FLUXLIST: To Name

[David Baptiste Chirot]

hmmm . . . 

joseph beuys--or joseph campbell? --THE HERO WITH A THOUSAND
FACES!

--chirot

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Eric Andersen wrote:

> No, it wasn't just the artmarket. In the 70's the perfect, political
> radical, correct cocktail consisted of wholoism, theosophy, ecology and
> a little touch of exotic mythology. To many people Joseph offered such a
> perfect cocktail. Also many of his students at that time became real
> disciples and went out in the world to preach.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> 
> > > A lot of people found joseph very, very correct in the 1970s
> >
> > Why ? Just the artmarket ?
> >
> > H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: Fwd: Tr: élections présidentielles (fwd (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

deux milles remerciements aux chers amis--
2000 thanks to dear friends--
 "Bertrand et Claudia CLAVEZ" 

for sending me this>
--david baptiste chirot

>Got this from a friend,
>enjoy

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FLUXLIST: VideoRiflessi 2000 / Poevisioni

[David Baptiste Chirot]

VideoRiflessi 2000 / Poevisioni
Politeama Ruzzi - Corso Nuova Italia
Vasto - CH

Video & Digital Video
Video, CD & Web Poetry
Sounds
Images

Among the artists:
Anna Alchuk, Antal Lux, Akenaton, Wilton Azevedo, Beatrice Babin, Brice
Bowman, Halsey Brown, Dimitri Bulatov, Doc(k)s, Ginestra Calzolari, Caterina
Davinio, Robin Dupuis, Joanna Empain, Emilio Fantin, Julie-Cristine Fortier,
Isabelle Hayeur, Olga Kumeger, Lara Lee, Caudette Lemay, Sergey Letov,
Piladelpho Menezes, Yuri Norstein, Clemente  Padin, Sebastien Pesot, John
Prescott, Anna Maria Pugliese, Christine Rheys, Javier Robledo, Carla
Vittoria Rossi, Roberto Rossini, Luisa Sax, Studio Azzurro, Walter Ungerer,
Vonda Yarberry, Wolfgan Ziemer


Valentina Monti presents:
La camera ad Acqua - Studio Azzurro




Matita Film Festival
Curator: Camillo D'Alessandro

Digital graphics and animation from animation schools from all over the
world. 20 short films that can give a panorama of the various animation
techniques with some attention to the aesthetics in this genre for experts.

Uno sguardo sulla pi brillante animazione d'autore e sulla recentissima
produzione delle scuole di cinema d'animazione di tutto il mondo. 20
cortometraggi che tentano di offrire un ampio ventaglio delle varie tecniche
di animazione ed aprire uno spiraglio sull'estetica, a volte ingenua, a
volte raffinatissima, di questo genere "di nicchia"


ScuoleVideo
Curators: Nico Savino and Simona Piattella
Unimovie

Unimovie is an international videos and short films festival, which fins
place every year in Pescara (Italy) and presents works realized from
students of cinema, art and communication, .
In 2000 there was the 4th edition which presented works from 30 lands  from
all over the world. The winner is "Kootsko Gaksi", by Semi Ryu, based on the
old Korean theatre; the public award was for "Das experiment", an ironic
work created by Stockmann and Zank. The works of the videofiction section
follow: the winners are the artists Barmen and Tegninger; Than, the section
Meltin'pot, special award "Strike fp". At the end of the compilation:
"Desiderio Inconfessabile", a work by Piattella and Savino, authors from
Pescara, organizers of the Unimovie festival

Unimovie  un festival internazionale di video e cortometraggi realizzati da
studenti di scuole di cinema, arte e comunicazione, che si svolge ogni anno
a Pescara. Nel 2000 si  avuta la quarta edizione che ha raccolto opere
provenienti da 30 paesi di tutto il mondo. I primi lavori in rassegna sono
quelli della sezione animazione, tra cui il vincitore di questa categoria,
Kootsko Gaksi, di Semi Ryu, incentrato sull'antico teatro coreano
delle marionette, e il premio del pubblico Das experiment, lavoro divertente
ed ironico dei tedeschi Stockmann e Zank. Seguono i lavori della sezione
videofiction, tra cui i vincitori ex aequo, entrambi scandinavi, Barmen e
Tegninger, e quelli della sezione Meltin'pot, vincitori del premio speciale
Strike fp. Chiude la rassegna il Desiderio Inconfessabile di Piattella e
Savino, autori pescaresi, oganizzatori proprio del festival Unimovie.

 Poevisioni
Video, Computer & Web Poetry
Curator: Caterina Davinio


In the Sixties the linearity of the poetic text was fragmented,
deconstructed, broken thanks to the ironic, playful intervention of
desecration of the visual and performative poets. At the same time continued
the research of the pioneers of the international electronic art, but the to
ambits remained mainly separated, and the performance saw, at the beginning
of the Nineties, still the centrality of the performer body, when, in the
electronic art, the artists already began to speak about the concept of
collective author, also referring to the web-art. I direct my attention
toward those video and computer artist (recently CD and web artist) who
tried an experimentation in contact with the poetry text in its larger
conception: as linear, visual, sonore, performative text, founding a new
discourse that I find very interesting also as artist.  The presented
authors come from different experiences: literature, cinema, photography,
visual arts, performance, and, in this variety, they contribute to create an
frontier area of contamination between the languages, that is the
contemporary art. (Davinio)

Negli anni Sessanta la linearit del testo poetico era frammentata,
decostruita, infranta da un impeto dissacratore, ironico, ludico, dai poeti
visivi e performativi. Nello stesso tempo procedeva la ricerca dei pionieri
internazionali delle arti elettroniche, ma i due ambiti rimanevano in
circuiti separati e la performance poetica vedeva in Italia ancora
all'inizio degli anni 90 la centralit del corpo del performer, quando gi
nell'ambito delle arti visive si parlava di realt virtuali, di autore
collettivo, anche in relazione al web. Ho concentrato negli anni il mio
interesse verso quei video e computer artisti, e recentemente autori di CD
d'arte

FLUXLIST: Dog's Life Mailart Call (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:16:27 +0100
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dog's Life Mailart Call

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(online now at: http://art.net/~kiyotei/dogslife/ )
Dog's Life / Vida del Perro

Hello my friend!
How is your holiday progressing?

Please consider sending some art (no pressure) or pass around my latest
mailart call:

Dog's Life Mailart Call


Theme: Pampered pet or hound from hell?
Tema: Como animal doméstico cuidado en exceso o perro de caza del
infierno?

Deadline: 15 April 2001
Plazo: el 15 de Abril 2001

No judge, no jury, no guilt, no returns.
Ningún juez, ningún jurado, ninguna culpabilidad, no retorno.

Media/size: Free (electronic or physical)
Media y talla: Libre

All entries will be included in a online exhibit.
Todas las entradas serán incluidas on-line y  expuestas en internet.

What you get:
Quick documentation, 1¢, signed-limited edition graphic, good karma.
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Documentación rápida, 1¢, gráfico firmado, limitado de la edición, buena

suerte.

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http://www.fut.es/~boek861

FLUXLIST: DEBATE MAIL ART (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

A// ESPAÑOL
B// ENGLISH
C// PARTICIPANTES/PARTICIPANS
A//
Participantes actuales en el debate sobre mail art en la web
http://www.fut.es/~boek861
b// People who, until now, have participate in the debate about mail
art in the web
http://www.fut.es/~boek861
C// participantes/participans//:
RUE DE GUERRE
XAVIER FORES
KATE STEWART
RUGGERO MAGGI
JOHN M. BENNETT
EMILIO MORANDI
ANDREJ TISMA
SNACK-Y
GUILLERMO MARIN
DAVE BAPTISTE CHIROT
CESAR REGLERO
GIANNI BROI
H.R. FRICKER
ROD SUMMERS
RUGGERO MAGGI
MERLIN
HARTMUT ANDRYCZUK
LUC FIERENS
JOHN HELD JR.
CLEMENTE PADIN
JIMMY KIM
LUIZ MONFORTE
DRAGONFLY
MERZ MAIL
RICHARD WOJOWODZKI
TOM BELL
JULIAN RUESGA BONO
CESAR REGLERO
STEVE SIMITH
HUGO PONTES
LUC FIERENS
MANDRAGORA
COLECTIVO ALPE
BRUNO FERREIRA
GUY FERDINANDE
UNAM
SZTUKA FABRYKA/DE DECKER GEERT
KLAUS GROH
DAVID STONE
CESAR FIGUEREIDO
Mª JESUS MONTIA
MAURICIO GUERRERO ALARCON
ANNA BOSCHI
ROBERTO VITALI
DAVID COLE
RACHEL SCOTT
GREG BYRD
DRAGONFLY DREAM
CRACKERJACK KID/CHUCK WELCH
GREG BYRD
MANDRAGORA
PATRICK-HENRY BURGAUD
JIM ANDREWS
UWE BRESSEM
CRAIG PURCELL
TOMAS CAMACHO
VITTORE BARONI
VISTEXT(O)
ALAN TURNER
DANIEL ACOSTA
ALICIA MAFFEI
TULIO RESTREPO
MIGUEL HERNANDEZ DE LUNA
*CLEMENTE PADIN
*CESAR REGLERO
***manifiesto inicial y origen del debate
***initial manifest of the debate
 
 
--
http://www.fut.es/~boek861
 
 

FLUXLIST: The "Paradoxism" on Internet - the last artistic avant-garde of the second millenium (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

"Paradoxism", a vanguard literary and scientific
movement, as an anti-communist protest, set up by the
writer Florentin Smarandache in 1980s, and based on an
excessive use of antitheses, antinomies,
contradictions, paradoxes in creation, is on the web:
- in English language at:
http://www.geocities.com/charlestle/paradoxism.html;
- in Romanian language at:
http://www.geocities.com/ghniculescu/index.html.

Gheorghe Niculescu 
(Hunedoara)

FLUXLIST: SYMPOSIUM : ART IN THE POST-BIOLOGICAL ERA (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

note--has some addresses may  be of interest--

From: Annick Bureaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Art  l're post-biologique - Art in the post-biological era

OLATS and CAiiA-STAR - in partnership with the C.ID. Mdiathque of the 
National School of Fine Arts - is presenting on December 12th and 13th 2000 
a symposium on the theme art in the post-biological era.

Through the presentation of the art and research of the artist members of 
the research group CAiiA-STAR, this symposium will point out the current 
state of art and explore the emerging fields in techno science related art : 
biotech art, online creativity, interrelationships between physical and 
cyberspace, links between ancient myths and contemporary practices - all of 
which approach a consciousness reframed by contemporary art technologies.

Participants include : Roy Ascott, Peter Anders, Donna Cox, Elisa Giaccardi, 
Diane Gromala, Pamela Jennings, Eduardo Kac, Jim Laukes, Dan Livingstone, 
Kieran Lyons, Simone Michelin, Laurent Mignonneau, Joseph Nechvatal, Marcos 
Novak, Michaek Punt, Niranjan Rajah, Gretchen Schiller, Bill Seaman, Thecla 
Schiphorst, Chris Speed, Christa Sommerer.

Detailed program at http://www.olats.org

contact :  Annick Bureaud ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
57, rue Falguiere - 75015 Paris France
tl/fax : 33/143 20 92 23
mobile : 33 (0)6 86 77 65 76

IDEA online/International Directory of Electronic Arts : http://nunc.com

OLATS/Observatoire Leonardo des Arts et des Techno-Sciences : 
http://www.olats.org



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FLUXLIST: Real Correspondence - Dec.2000 (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Real Correspondence
is a mail art bulletin edited very irregularly by Vittore Baroni for Near The 
Edge Editions, via C. Battisti 339, 55049 Viareggio, Italy. It is distributed 
free by snail-mail since 1980 and also in e-mail version since 1998. 
>>> This is the December 2000 issue, announcing the publication of the 
book ARTISTAMPS by James W. Felter.
 
AAA Editions is proud to announce the publication of James Warren 
Felter’s book ARTISTAMPS / FRANCOBOLLI D’ARTISTA 
Here is the back-cover blurb:
James Warren Felter (New York, 1943) has created, researched and 
collected artistamps since 1973. He organized exhibitions in North America, 
Europe and Russia and is often a consultant and lender. Currently Director of 
the Jas Cyberspace Museum, Felter lives in West Vancouver, Canada with his wife 
and cat.
Artistamps rebel against the monopoly of governmental emissions, giving 
life with satirical, playful or lyrical intents to an alternative philately 
dominated by the most unrestrained creativity. This volume reconstructs the 
history of the art form, from the work of pioneers Michael V. Hitrovo and Karl 
Schwesig to the conceptual experiments of Yves Klein and Fluxus artists, and the 
planetary diffusion through the open network of Mail Art with the multicoloured 
emissions of imaginary islands and virtual countries. The book is illustrated 
with hundreds of artistamps by more than fifty artists most representative of 
the field. Preface by Vittore Baroni, with special advice from Anna 
Banana.
 
If you want to check the contents in detail, this is the full INDEX of 
the book:
FOREWORD - The postage stamps’ revolt (V. Baroni)
J.W. Felter - GREAT ART MUST BE LICKED! - The artists, actions and events 
shaping a new movement in international art 
ALBUM LEAVES (portfolios and short essays): Anna Banana - On Artistamp 
News ; Fernand E.J. Barbot; Vittore Baroni; Guy Bleus - The thrill of 
collecting artistamps; Kenneth J. Bryson; buZ blurr; Gregory T. Byrd; Guglielmo 
A. Cavellini; Piermario Ciani; David Cole; Michael Hernandez De Luna; Marcello 
Diotallevi; Dogfish - Cinderella in Tui Tui; Dominique; Susan Dworski; Andries 
D. Eker; James W. Felter; Hans R. Fricker; Jorge Garnica; Bruce Grenville - 
Voyages to imaginary countries; Harley; Ed F. Higgins III - Small is big; Dennis 
J. Highberger; Michel Hosszú; Sandy Jackson; K. Frank Jensen; Joki; 
Eleanor Kent; Alexander Kholopov; Natalie Lamanova; Rene Montes; Clemente 
Padin; Franco Piri Focardi; Joel Smith; Steve Smith; Geir Sør-Reime; 
State of Being; Rod Summers - Artistamps from the computer; Michael Thompson; Ed 
Varney - The artistamp "anthology" sheet; Chuck Welch.
CHRONOLOGY OF FIRST EDITIONS
SELECTED EXHIBITIONS
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Other artists with at least one artistamp reproduced (in order of 
apparition):
Mark Bloch, Dennis P. Jordan, Jeffrey Dixon, Peter W. Kaufmann, Tim Mancusi, 
Endre Tót, Gerard Barbot, King Alexander, Richard De Meester, Alan 
Brignull, Fabio Bruno, Leslie Caldera, Joel S. Cohen & Thomas Kerr, Weef, 
Joe Decie, T. Michael Bidner, Michael V. Hitrovo, Karl Schwesig, Ray Johnson, 
Robert M. Watts, George Maciunas, Donald Evans, Ken Friedman, Dana Atchley, Carl 
T. Chew, Patricia Tavenner, Edgardo-Antonio Vigo, Picasso Gaglione, Alyce 
Cornyn-Selby, Arturo Fallico, Pere Souza, Gregory Zbitnew, Dieter Rot, Sean A. 
Woodward, Willi K. Baum, György Galántai, Rose Avery, Robert 
Rehfeldt, Jürgen O. Olbrich, Geraldo Yepiz, Michael Leigh, Pawel Petasz, 
Robin Crozier, Rose Avery, Francis Hall, Luc Fierens… plus various 
collective "anthology sheets".
 
How the book was born:
After the publication in 1997 of my mail art guide (in Italian) Arte 
Postale for AAA Editions, the small publishing house I had founded two years 
earlier with my business partner Piermario Ciani, I started planning a follow up 
to that book, focussed on a single specific aspect of mail art. In Spring 1998 
the notorious artistamp maker James W. Felter and his wife visited me in 
Viareggio, and we discussed the possibility of editing together a book on 
artistamps. In the following months the decision was taken to publish a book on 
the history of rubber stamp art first, as rubber stamps were easier to reproduce 
in black and white than artistamps, and John Held Jr. was able to provide very 
quickly an essay sketching the history of the genre. So in April 1999 
L’arte del timbro/Rubber Stamp Art by Held appeared in a bilingual 
Italian/English edition, a structure that we used as a blueprint for the new 
book by Felter on artistamps (to appear just before Xmas 2000). In this way a 
sort of "trilogy" on mail art has been accomplished by AAA Editions, 
and we are quite happy with the results. Of course, there are several other 
subjects that could be profitably explored as further volumes in this series 
(postcards, experimental poetry, collages, stickers, etc.), but we are not sure 
that we really want to continue in this direction. As many of you might know, 
l

FLUXLIST: Real Correspondence - Dec.2000

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Real Correspondence
is a mail art bulletin edited very irregularly by Vittore Baroni for Near The 
Edge Editions, via C. Battisti 339, 55049 Viareggio, Italy. It is distributed 
free by snail-mail since 1980 and also in e-mail version since 1998. 
>>> This is the December 2000 issue, announcing the publication of the 
book ARTISTAMPS by James W. Felter.
 
AAA Editions is proud to announce the publication of James Warren 
Felter’s book ARTISTAMPS / FRANCOBOLLI D’ARTISTA 
Here is the back-cover blurb:
James Warren Felter (New York, 1943) has created, researched and 
collected artistamps since 1973. He organized exhibitions in North America, 
Europe and Russia and is often a consultant and lender. Currently Director of 
the Jas Cyberspace Museum, Felter lives in West Vancouver, Canada with his wife 
and cat.
Artistamps rebel against the monopoly of governmental emissions, giving 
life with satirical, playful or lyrical intents to an alternative philately 
dominated by the most unrestrained creativity. This volume reconstructs the 
history of the art form, from the work of pioneers Michael V. Hitrovo and Karl 
Schwesig to the conceptual experiments of Yves Klein and Fluxus artists, and the 
planetary diffusion through the open network of Mail Art with the multicoloured 
emissions of imaginary islands and virtual countries. The book is illustrated 
with hundreds of artistamps by more than fifty artists most representative of 
the field. Preface by Vittore Baroni, with special advice from Anna 
Banana.
 
If you want to check the contents in detail, this is the full INDEX of 
the book:
FOREWORD - The postage stamps’ revolt (V. Baroni)
J.W. Felter - GREAT ART MUST BE LICKED! - The artists, actions and events 
shaping a new movement in international art 
ALBUM LEAVES (portfolios and short essays): Anna Banana - On Artistamp 
News ; Fernand E.J. Barbot; Vittore Baroni; Guy Bleus - The thrill of 
collecting artistamps; Kenneth J. Bryson; buZ blurr; Gregory T. Byrd; Guglielmo 
A. Cavellini; Piermario Ciani; David Cole; Michael Hernandez De Luna; Marcello 
Diotallevi; Dogfish - Cinderella in Tui Tui; Dominique; Susan Dworski; Andries 
D. Eker; James W. Felter; Hans R. Fricker; Jorge Garnica; Bruce Grenville - 
Voyages to imaginary countries; Harley; Ed F. Higgins III - Small is big; Dennis 
J. Highberger; Michel Hosszú; Sandy Jackson; K. Frank Jensen; Joki; 
Eleanor Kent; Alexander Kholopov; Natalie Lamanova; Rene Montes; Clemente 
Padin; Franco Piri Focardi; Joel Smith; Steve Smith; Geir Sør-Reime; 
State of Being; Rod Summers - Artistamps from the computer; Michael Thompson; Ed 
Varney - The artistamp "anthology" sheet; Chuck Welch.
CHRONOLOGY OF FIRST EDITIONS
SELECTED EXHIBITIONS
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Other artists with at least one artistamp reproduced (in order of 
apparition):
Mark Bloch, Dennis P. Jordan, Jeffrey Dixon, Peter W. Kaufmann, Tim Mancusi, 
Endre Tót, Gerard Barbot, King Alexander, Richard De Meester, Alan 
Brignull, Fabio Bruno, Leslie Caldera, Joel S. Cohen & Thomas Kerr, Weef, 
Joe Decie, T. Michael Bidner, Michael V. Hitrovo, Karl Schwesig, Ray Johnson, 
Robert M. Watts, George Maciunas, Donald Evans, Ken Friedman, Dana Atchley, Carl 
T. Chew, Patricia Tavenner, Edgardo-Antonio Vigo, Picasso Gaglione, Alyce 
Cornyn-Selby, Arturo Fallico, Pere Souza, Gregory Zbitnew, Dieter Rot, Sean A. 
Woodward, Willi K. Baum, György Galántai, Rose Avery, Robert 
Rehfeldt, Jürgen O. Olbrich, Geraldo Yepiz, Michael Leigh, Pawel Petasz, 
Robin Crozier, Rose Avery, Francis Hall, Luc Fierens… plus various 
collective "anthology sheets".
 
How the book was born:
After the publication in 1997 of my mail art guide (in Italian) Arte 
Postale for AAA Editions, the small publishing house I had founded two years 
earlier with my business partner Piermario Ciani, I started planning a follow up 
to that book, focussed on a single specific aspect of mail art. In Spring 1998 
the notorious artistamp maker James W. Felter and his wife visited me in 
Viareggio, and we discussed the possibility of editing together a book on 
artistamps. In the following months the decision was taken to publish a book on 
the history of rubber stamp art first, as rubber stamps were easier to reproduce 
in black and white than artistamps, and John Held Jr. was able to provide very 
quickly an essay sketching the history of the genre. So in April 1999 
L’arte del timbro/Rubber Stamp Art by Held appeared in a bilingual 
Italian/English edition, a structure that we used as a blueprint for the new 
book by Felter on artistamps (to appear just before Xmas 2000). In this way a 
sort of "trilogy" on mail art has been accomplished by AAA Editions, 
and we are quite happy with the results. Of course, there are several other 
subjects that could be profitably explored as further volumes in this series 
(postcards, experimental poetry, collages, stickers, etc.), but we are not sure 
that we really want to continue in this direction. As many of you might know, 
l

Re: FLUXLIST: Beuys

[David Baptiste Chirot]

I shd note--re "Something Else"--Dick Higgins' old press up in
vermont--

main influence for me not even a "real life" artist for all saying
about the "concrete"--but Gulley Jimson from the novel and film--THE
HORSE'S
MOUTH-- 

art/life--not a barrier at all, but an invitation--

to live in an open world--which opens continually all around one,
as "present" (gift) in the "present" (now)--

i think part of what this Fluxus--is about, is just as Filliou
envisioned and so wisely noted--"Eternal Network"--

community/communication--

one is not alone--

not the Romantic Artist 

(hence all those questions re "who is Fluxus" etc--is more
important hat the work goes on--events, happenings, open ness--than some
codifying of signatures, documents-, though these all of course, of
interest, --yet one must be, in the spirit of the "originators",
(who Heard and Sw--from Others, Something Else--already around--) moving
onwo/ards--

otherwise, why condemn them all to fossils or--mummies or
monuments,
galleries and museums--

seems sad fate--

Tut: King Tut--silent, except for the loud oratory of GOLD--

is one to presume to make these Flux artists so--when best thing
is
to go on working--the  --veins in the rocks they ahve opened for
ANARKEYOLOGY?--

a rhetorical question!--

veins of rock--or of blood-is veins one must--live whit in
this--life/art--fusing--

of time and space into--events, objects, happenings,
exchanges--words and works--performance--thinkings, recipes--

"brew-ha ha"
--
or brou ha ha--
incendiary sounds form petroleusues or others in the streets--or
inside--oneself--

must be some kind of Fluxus beyond 

containment--in the exploding cannisters--

--

Re: FLUXLIST: Beuys

[David Baptiste Chirot]

oh yes--"text based"--that is form the Puritans, for sure

thou shalt make no graven images etc--worship statues!--talk to
stones--let alone trees etc--and animals--

is there any difference between a bullfight and the Mass?

one wonders--

something i was thinking of--that show on american art done by
--australian art critic--i noticed he misunderstood american art in one
essential--it is really about engineering--

which comes form the Puritans, the only art had to be expressed in
minimal terms through things which served a function--

so we have even in american great poetics of say william carlos
williama ("a poem is a machine made of words")--Olson--always speaking of
"use"--

this is important to american art--Fluxus and things like the
beats--subverted this--
idea that as Kerouac wd write, art, poetry--"eyeball kicks"--yet
for him not passive spectatorial "slumming"as one wd like to so condemn
it--but active participatory "reporting" "recording" eye and hand and
voice--via his "sketching" in n notebook pages of "jazz improvisations" of
daily before one "happenings"--this goes back to say Hawthorne AMERICAN
NOTEBOOKS, Whitman SPECIMEN DAYS,  poetry of Emily Dickinson--Thoreau
journal entries--Melville "Logs" of whaling and other enterprising
& allegoriacl adventures turned into hay wire searches on vast Pacifics--

Huck Fin pondering over books--and how they affect Tom
Sawyer--while he himself wants to "light out
" for Indian territories--

when you think of things like "eyeball kicks" --means not
ownership of the materials--"happenings'  a Flux--yet one may participate
and
encourage by active involvememt, from an ongoing street level, or out in
fields-anyplace, your kitchen full of paint supplies or as many wonderful
people wrote in--for transfers--

"the proverbial kitchen sink"--for sure--

"to close the eyes is travel"--emily dickinson--

the american tradition seems to be a continual struggle between
Puritan ideas of limitation, territorialization, colonialization,
oppression of anything "radically different"--and --all this Other flowing
in continually--

the text based Ann notes-we have too much about
us--continually--is
a way of codifying what is basically always coming up with something Else--

mainly rooted in --funny here the discussion seems to keep
coming back to blood!--

but is a Flow, like Fluxus, or Happenings, or anything--going on,
is part of the circulatory system--and so, "wisdom of the heart" as pascal wd
say

in a funny way, the american way has a certain--use!-- to be sure,
as one may be at times strewing blood all over the place--and quoting long
dead French philosopher/religious person/mathametician--
from far off places we are near at hand--
and vice versa--

is important to remember--

here is also somehwhere else, and we make for the here to there the
kind of machines i suppose if one wants to deem them so, to move from here
to there as many as possible stowaways--

dbc






On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, ann klefstad wrote:

> 
> 
> David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> 
> > My first memories of hearing about Fluxus and Happenings--I was
> > about ten--in 1963.  Some friends who visited a lot from New York City
> > talked about it--my brother who was seven and I were fascinated--
> >
> > "Happenings"--"Fluxus"--sounded like the amazing things one saw
> > continually as small child in small Vermont village--daily things of
> > startling import and awe inspiring magic--that were always in "flux" or
> > "happening all around us"--
> >
> 
> my god what a great recounting of a life in flux! Reminds me of my own
> childhood, and the things that happen in rural places that have no handy
> context for what's "normal" (no tv then). A whole hell of a lot can seem
> normal. Or at least, just the kind of thing that happens.
> 
> When the old couple made blood sausage for us, the taster was the blind lady.
> Later I used gallon jars of blood from the same little slaughterhouse for a
> piece--I had it in white cafeteria bowls. I watched them kill the cow, an old
> Holstein, and when they split her in half, the milk ran in with the blood
> across the floor, beautiful white swirls in the red.
> 
> And yes, all that damn textbased stuff. The world and its beauty and stink
> evaporating in the clouds of language--  What is that impulse, some puritan
> thing? the second-order real? Heaven just above the ground?
> 
> AK
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: Beuys

[David Baptiste Chirot]

  'THIS IS A FLUXUS ADVERTISMENT"

wrap around cover strip for the Fall 1963 issue of FILM
CULTURE--corrugated carboard cover with a round hole in it so one eye of
Stan Brakhage peers out in silver--the whole issue is METPHORS ON VISION
by Brakhage

the Fluxus advertisment is for works available from Fluxus 1963
Edtions--includes V  TRE magazine edited by George Brecht, works by
Vautier, Knowles, Watts, Nam June Paik, Chieko Shiomi. Spoerri and
Francois Dufresne, E. Williams, Filliou, Patterson, Higgins, Flynt, La
Monte Young, Ayo, Takehisa Kosugi--


so my knowledge of Fluxus history very sketchy to say the
least--never even heard of Beuys until years later--was more something
inspiring to make things--and keep one busy and having a grand old time--

was a huge shcok to see Conceptual Art exhibits in NYC in the
Seventies--a piece of string hanging on wall--with an explanation about it
on six foot high scroll--

reminded me of those mangled-all-the-same COWs painted words
lying keeled over in pastures, shot by some person--and made one wonder--

can people from out of state READ?--apparently when they had
learned to--they forgot how to make things!

"stringing up" "art" with accompanying "documents"--reminded one
of an
execution by implacable Legal Authorities!

which led to interest ever more in writing--as mysterious
activity--

i.e.--what is legible?--in relation with what is visible?--and
sounded out? and acted out?--

no barriers among any of them--leads to Visual Poetry--

probably oldest art form yet so much also part of modern world
since its "official" appearance with Mallarme's "Un Coup de des"--

to this day find the quiet Schwitters far more daily inspration
when out finding things in the street for works--than more bombastic
Beuys--

still, Schwitters could also make some mighty sounds--Sound
Poetry--the Ur-Sonate!--

and greatly inspired by the art/social action of Clemente Padin
and Luc Fierens, who just joined this list--

--david baptiste chirot

Re: FLUXLIST: avantgarde?

[David Baptiste Chirot]

dear ann

thank you

there is a small poem by william carlos williams in which he
states that he is driving in his car,thinking of cave paintings in the
pyrenees, "Les Trois Freres"--

that is the movement of art--poetry--


my own little dictum of hilarity re movements etc

is 

onwo/ards!

which cd mean--in any direction!

God knows--even off a cliff--!--

or "the sky's the limit"

or "off to jail--"

you never can tell 


but the movement in itself--is "telling" in the sense Emily
Dickinson has of it


"to close the eyes is travel"

"If one does not hope, one will not find the unhoped for, since
there is no trail leading to it and no path"

--Heraclitus

I think that many of the principles and actions of a resistance to
the art world ideas is found, that is to capitalist ideas and their
interrelations  with the art world--is found in Mail
Art.  Of course, this may be a difficult terrain--for one to argue over,
say--

however, as Filliou  envisioned the Eternal Network,I think it
offers hope and the unhoped for 



for a very broad and vibrant and thought provoking 
presentations of issues current in Mail Art by over fifty practising
artists--see

Open Debate Mail Art

    http://www.fut.es/~boek861

onwo/ards!

david baptiste chirot



On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, .pavu.com wrote:

> yes ann
> 
> the function of an avant-garde, or of a rear-guard, is neither to advance
> nor retreat, but rather to maneuver
> 
> check pavu.com at http://pavu.com
> 
> best regards
> --
> jean-philippe halgand - Executive Directeur of pavu.com
> http://pavu.com
> -/ don't miss the next train, train with pavu.com ! /-
> 
> 
> > De : ann klefstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Société : klefstad / kalstrom sculpture
> > Répondre à : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date : Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:51:48 -0800
> > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: avantgarde?
> > 
> > I myself would hope that the notion of "progress" in art, an imagining of
> > arthistory to parallel, say, the development of material technologies, could
> > be discarded. Thus the notion of the avantgarde--that is, those out in front,
> > those "most progressive"--could also be discarded. I don't think that an
> > "avantgarde" today is anything but a competitive positivist impulse that
> > unconsciously models itself on technological development, you know, "The Rise
> > of Man" kind of thing.
> > The thing I always liked about Fluxus was its refusal of narratives of
> > prowess, its ability to mock such narratives (say, the "Twelve Big Names"
> > thing) and its choice of, instead of the slogan "forward!", the slogan
> > "sideways!" Many Fluxus practitioners used the "stupid" relation of the body
> > as animal body to the physical world, and their work (such as Ken's salt
> > projects) used the elemental physical attributes of things.  This does not
> > make for forward motion, it makes
> > instead for a recursion to simple perception, an invoking of thoughtfulness
> > about what conditions the perception, an invoking of memory--in other words,
> > movement back, sideways, in circles, not the forward rush of the avantgarde
> > and its oppositional tactics. Fluxus didn't so much oppose, beat back, fight,
> > as, say, unravel, comb out, or knit up.
> > 
> > Can we speak in terms of what things do rather than what they oppose?
> > 
> > AK
> > 
> > Josh Ronsen wrote:
> > 
> >> Heiko Recktenwald writes:
> >> 
> >>> When fluxus began in the Cage class, they were some of the
> >>> most avantgarde people of its time. Those who call themself
> >>> "fluxus" today are not.
> >> 
> >> What does avantgarde mean, today? Who is avantgarde today? These are
> >> interesting questions and I do not know how to approach them.
> >> 
> >> Don't hate me, but I have been reading an article about Online (Internet)
> >> Education in a recent issue of the New York Times Sunday Magazine. There is
> >> quote from a professor (my copy is at home) who is trying to get "top-notch"
> >> universities to let their faculty lecture for his online ed company: to
> >> paraphrase-- the avant-garde (in art) and capitalism as similar because they
> >> are both concerned with the "new."
> >>

Re: FLUXLIST: coal age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDoo

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Reed & fellow workers in ye flux fields of the Lords and Lordesses--

ten of Eric Basso's books written from roughly 1974-94 have been
published n the last two years by (apropriately-!)--Asylum Arts

these include several books of poetry, several of plays, a book of
short works entitled and including the story --and a GREAT one!--used in
the piece below--THE BEAK DOCTOR--(actually Reed--you have the original of
visual poetry book I made last year--named for and inspired by the
story--) 
and a novel--BARTHOLOMEW FAIR

forthcoming will be Eric's collected essays--and also a Book of
Dreams--records of the dreams of the mighty Basso PoefRoundO--

am writing an essay on the works and will be  glad to send on to
interested parties when is completed--

would most highly recommend any and all of Basso's works--which
don't fall into any category--are true works of the imagination--drawing
on sources from around the world and a myriad of times and spaces
historical, imagined and hallucinatory--remembered, dreamed and
fabricated--

deeply disturbing and unsettling in all the best senses of those
words--shake one up--yet inspiring in that make such vivid use of minute
particulars--a teeming multitudinous universe of corrosion, decay, sense of
fated entropical vanishings--

Basso has lived pretty much his whole life in Baltimore, that city
connected with Poe--Poe living there while attending his dying brother in
a cheap attic room--the sailor brother between spitting up consumption lung
fulls of blood--telling his writer brother tales of life at sea--fevered
and hallucinatory--brutally lyrical--which led to Poe's writing THE
NARRATIVE OF ARTHUR GORDON PYM--and later, Poe himself dying and being
buried in Baltimore--

(hence their NFL team named "The Ravens" from Poe poem--Poe of all
people of american writers having team named for his works!--eat your
heart
out Ernest Hemingway, George Plympton, Norman Mailer--all the rest of the
he-man
wannabes!--)

(Poe actually was very athletic & a superb swimmer--)

hence in this poem, the two Baltimoreans are joined
by that city connection suggesting it, as well as both their
works in editions i have here are in black covers with white lettering-
the two volumes of Poe being from Library of America series--

would very very highly recommend to all the story THE BEAK
DOCTOR--

like all Basso works begins with a shocking blast and gets more
explosive as the piece continues, on into the darkness . . .

you know how say old paperbacks of Alfred Hitchcock mystery and
horror short story collections it will say--stories to keep you awake! you
will not sleep if you read this one! etc--

in BEAK DOCTOR city is seized by plague of narcolepsy type
symptons--

so in this work--is not only the reader who cannot sleep--is the
narrator, the characters who MUST NOT SLEEP--or they die--
 
no--in Basso's works, you will no be "bored to death" for sure!

--david baptiste


On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Reed Altemus wrote:

> David
> 
> Thanks for posting this I enjoyed it a lot. The only things I've read by
> Eric Basso were things he sent to "Blackbird" magazine. Those I found
> intriguing.
> 
> RA
> 
> David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> 
> > 25/10/00 pastel afternoon
> >
> > coal-age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDo
> > a score for two or more
> >  voices
> >
> > Undergound behind rockface
> >
> > not far from ravine
> >
> > down with nothing between
> >
> > fallen place, singular wildness
> >
> >
> > stratum after stratum
> >
> > level by level
> >
> >aspect dreary,
> >
> > degraded Babylon
> >
> > Rusted shade of fog
> >
> > sockets of dust
> >
> > ruins chaotic
> >
> > strewn wreck gigantic
> >
> >
> > tracks in dirt
> >
> > Promonontory Wall
> >
> > no art detected
> >
> > shapeless intermingled marl
> >
> > fierce dream of roof-struts
> >
> > mercurial insomnias
> >
> >   granulated t

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist radio piece.

[David Baptiste Chirot]

oh yes!  i wdould love to contribute/participate

have done various radio projects in the past

most recent taped one played at A DAY FOR BOB COBBING

London, 23 september 2000

collage of radio recorded Boston Black preacher,thunderstorm

recorded live on north oakland avenue here in Milwaukee & 

a sound poem of mine

did some for pirate radio stattion in Milwaukee &

also various Boston area stations--

collaging natural sounds, streets sounds, radio excerpts, 

over dubs etc--with sound poems--and music--


for some--made "invisible" visual poems, whih are mounted in
studio

or site of the collaging--during the broadcast

thus though are unseen over radio--via air waves hopes of some

reverberations, emantions of the visual--may be extended in space

and time--via working with their rhythms in the soundings--

    david baptiste chirot





On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Keri & Tom Marion wrote:

> i would absolutely like to participate.
> 
> km
> From: "Ceyda Karamürsel (Customertech-Yet.Uzm.)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:34 AM
> Subject: FLUXLIST: fluxlist radio piece.
> 
> 
> >
> > hi all,
> >
> > it's been sometime that i didn't write to the list, did not participate
> much
> > but i have been watching and enjoying things as i always did. i was kind
> of
> > busy with preparations of my radio project for the last couple of  months,
> > that is a radio program totally devoted to radio art genre... so now, we
> > have a radio art stage, in one of the nicest radio stations in istanbul...
> > yet we are broadcasting recorded stuff (our main source by the way is
> > kunstradio -http://www.kunstradio.at - of austria) and we give information
> > about this genre, the origins etc.. soon we'll broadcast live performaces
> as
> > well.
> >
> > i know that some fluxus artists (john cage, milan knizak, alison knowles,
> > alvin lucier) were involved in radio art too... so it brought me the idea
> > that you might be interested in creating a common project for the radio. i
> > remember there was a midi project some time ago, passing a midi file round
> > the list and each participant manipulated, added new stuff to the previous
> > version of the file. so i thought about something similar. i can start the
> > process by sending a sound excerpt and each participant can add or
> subtract
> > any part of the previous version and the outcome would be broadcasted
> > through the radio and web -http://www.acikradyo.com- (may be a cd copy to
> > each participant?? i don't know).
> >
> >  i wonder if anybody is interested in that. would you like to
> participate??
> >
> > excited.
> > ceyda
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: Report Biennal (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Fellow workers in the Eternal Network

thought to pass this on with news of this Mail Art Event--

organized by the great Clemente Padin 

ever an inspiration and example

--david baptiste chirot






MAIL ART HIT PARADE 
2000
 
REPORT
 At last, on Friday 17th 
November at 11 am,  the MAIL-ART HIT PARADE 2000 took place, opening the 7th. Biennial of Havanna in the old part 
of the city. The event was so important that the caretakers of the Biennial 
asked me to repeat it the following day, due to the opening of a new section of 
the exhibition of the Biennial in the Cabin, one of the citadels that protects 
the approaches to the City Port. Our objectives were fulfilled: taking 
the mail-art out into the streets, where the people are, in a kind of living 
exhibition; bringing together thelong-distance communication, intrinsic to 
mail-art, and the direct communication with the Cuban people and trying to 
integrate the audience to the net by giving postcards as a present in order for 
them to participate and send them back to my address.  Another important 
aspect was to reaffirm the disinterested character of  mail-art by giving 
all the masks and costumes received to those who took part in the parade, except 
the ones that the Australian artist  David Dellafiora lent me. Last, it 
must be highlighted the wide legitimization our art achieved by opening the 
Biennial in front of numerous authorities and art critics from all over the 
world, including Pierre Restany, in representation of the UNESCO. Soon I will 
publish a catalogue with pictures from the event. Also a video was filmed of 20 
minutes long.  I want to thank the Wifredo Lam Centre from 
Cuba,  the students of the first cycle of the National Academy of Fine Arts 
"San Alejandro" of Havanna,  the Association of Bank Employees of 
Uruguay,  David Baptiste Chirot,  the Australian artist David 
Dellafiora, AUMA (Action Urgent Mail-Art) and Alexis Abreu, the Cuban 
artist  who took part in the event. Also to all the participant 
mail-artists.  
 
  
Besides the Biennial, I made a performance on Tuesday 14th,  where 
I read an anthology of experimental poetry, in the  "October 10" 
Gallery organized by the Cuban poet  Raydel Araoz, with poems by Edgardo 
Antonio Vigo, Philadelpho Menezes, Guillermo Deisler, Arrigo Lora-Totino, Jose 
Lino Grunewald, Julien Blaine, Jean-Claude Moineau, Jean-François Bory, 
Klaus Groh, Bartolomé Ferrando, Fernando Aguiar, Bob Cobbing and my 
own.
 
Clemente Padin, Montevideo, Uruguay, November 24, 
2000

Re: FLUXLIST: search

[David Baptiste Chirot]

i am usually preoccupied at this time with the ritual sacrifice
of various Old Skins &
the performance of the Stations of the Cross
my hands bloodied with self-inflicted sigmata, my back flayed by
 delieriously pecking crows and my knees filled with pebbles, the joints
jutting forth from torn raw red flesh 
etching calligraphies in
the dusts among which i crawl

before dancing for the emergent Goddess of the New Creation
and in Pentecostal tongues proaclaiming her Sound & Visual
Poetries



if i have blood and energy enough left--
count me in


--dbchirot


On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, narvis & ...pez wrote:

> count me in
> (if it is not a war one)
> 
> ...pez
> 
> At 04:23 am -0800 21/11/00, Arturas Bumsteinas wrote:
> >Hello dear Fluxers.
> >I am looking for people who
> >would like to take
> >part in some performance which will
> >take part in spring.
> >I will reweal everything to the
> >persons who are interested.
> >sincerely arturas bumsteinas
> >
> >__
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
> >http://shopping.yahoo.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: Mail Art: "La Naranja" (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

dear fellow worker pez:

i will check for you the address--but i think the deadline is
passed

i forwarded this in case people on the list who participated had
not heard the news yet that the catalogues are being made & what the dates
for the exhibition are to be

you are happily blessed to have orange trees!

in our neighborhood the only oranges for now are  
the warning cones and stiff yet pliant plastic fencings put out
for traffic control
by construction sites

i will check for the address, though--as still have it

--dbchirot

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, narvis & ...pez wrote:

> cause i have orange trees
> i lovit to participate in such a convocatori
> but
> to which adress?
> ...pez
> 
> At 02:49 pm -0600 17/11/00, David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> >
> >A// ESPA-OL
> >B// VALENCI¿
> >C// FRAN«AIS
> >D// DEUTSCH
> >E// ENGLISH
> >F// ITALIANO
> >
> >
> >"Amigos Mail-artistas:
> >
> >La exposiciÛn correspondiente a la convocatoria MAIL ART "LA NARANJA:
> >EXPRIME TUS IDEAS" se inaugurar· en
> >El Puig (Valencia) el prÛximo 28 de enero de 2001. A partir de ese
> >momento comenzaran a enviarse los cat·logos.
> >
> >Muchas gracias por vuestra participaciÛn."
> >
> >
> >
> >   Francesc Orts Hurtado
> >
> >   Comisario exposiciÛn
> >
> >
> >
> >"Amics Mail-artistes:
> >
> >L¥exposiciÛ corresponent a la convocatÚria MAIL ART "LA TARONJA: ESPREM
> >LES TEUES IDEES" s¥inaugurarý al
> >Puig (ValËncia) el prÚxim 28 de gener de 2001. A partir d¥aquest moment
> >s¥hi enviaran els catýlegs.
> >
> >Moltes grýcies per la vostra participaciÛ"
> >
> >
> >
> >   Francesc Orts Hurtado
> >
> >Comissari exposiciÛ
> >
> >
> >"Amis Mail-artistes:
> >
> >Le vernissage correspondant ý la convocation MAIL ART "L¥ORANGE: PRESSE
> >TES IDŠES" aura lieu ý El Puig
> >(Valence-Espagne) le prochain 28 janvier 2001. C'est ý partir de ce
> >moment que l¥on commencera ý envoyer les
> >catalogues.
> >
> >Merci beaucoup de votre participation."
> >
> >
> >
> >   Francesc Orts Hurtado
> >
> >  Comissaire de l¥exposition
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Mail-Freunde- K¸nstler:
> >
> >Die der Einberufung MAIL ART"DIE ORANGE: PRESS DEINE IDEEN AUS"
> >entsprechende Ausstellung wird in El Puig
> >(Valencia-Spanien) am n”chsten 28 januar 2001 er–ffnet. Die Kataloge
> >werden erst ab jenem Moment geschickt werden.
> >
> >Vielen Dank f¸r Eure Teilnahme."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Francesc Orts Hurtado
> >
> >   Ausstellungskommissar
> >
> >
> >
> >"Dear Mail-art friends:
> >
> >The exhibition MAIL-ART "THE ORANGE: SQUEEZE YOUR BRAINS" will open in
> >El Puig, (Valencia-Spain) on
> >january 28, 2001. Catalogues will be mailed over to you from that date
> >on.
> >
> >Thank you all for your participation."
> >
> >
> >
> >   Francesc Orts Hurtado
> >
> >Organizer exhibition
> >
> >
> >
> >"Amici Mail-artisti:
> >
> >La mostra corrispondente alla convocazione MAIL ART "L¥ARANCIA: SPREMI
> >LE TUE IDEE" verrý inaugurata a El
> >Puig (Valencia-Spagna) il prossimo 28 gennaio 2001. A partire da questa
> >data si spediranno i cataloghi.
> >
> >Grazie della vostra partecipazione."
> >
> >   Francesc Orts Hurtado
> >
> >   Comisari de l¥ExposiciÛ
> >
> >
> >---
> >http://www.fut.es/~boek861
> 
> 
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: Where Life had No Value, Death, Sometimes, had its Price

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Where Life had No Value, Death, Sometimes, Had its Price


score for voices

for pablo x
   & nancy e
I like a look of agony

to a discerning eye


camera eye a cruising vulture

over rubble, unfinished buildings

outskirts of no walls no stairs


humans who live after us

against us your hearts not harden


stranger standing beyond novelty

arrival a creak of laid boards

materialized out of thin air


do not sham Convulsion

nor simulate a Throe


makeshift camera sails past

shadow of thistle, rusty iron

broken color comics


the flesh chopped devoured rotten

we bones ash and powder


stood examining a poster

its sketch and customary legend

Mexican fashion Texas style


Eyes glaze Death Impossible

Beads By Anguish strung


camera zooms past bright flutter

medieval flowers, tethered goat

lean gossip cooking old folklore


of our troubles no one laugh

nor have disdain of we who hang



faint sense of visible below

stranger low-slung itching to kill

stranger with no indication turned


straightway dangerous

like Stillness in Air


Camera sweeps outlined sky

here camera stops

bright windy blue moon sings 


Never any time are we tranquil

but swing here, there, with the wind


faint glint in slitted eyes

uneasy hair-trigger violence

reward on delivery, to Man with No
   Name


Eyes around me witnessed

what light I could not see to see




words from:

Emily Dickinson,
"I like a look of Agony",
"Much Madness is divinest Sense",
"I heard a Fly buzz--when I died"
William S. Burroughs, 
The Wild Boys
Francois Villon
"l'Epitaphe Villon"
(translations chirot)
Joe Millard, Sergio Leone & Fulvio Morsella
For a Few Dollars More

arrangements
david baptiste chirot

Re: FLUXLIST: performance scores?

[David Baptiste Chirot]

EventScore

darkened room--lights go up

the spectators, invitees, lost people stumbling in

throw  things at "stage" or wall--at back--hurl obscenities

made up on the spot--

lights dim

leftovers:

scatterings on wall and floor

create score

for dance steps and sound poems, shadow puppets, hand gestures


"Ich bin Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes"

--dbchirot

Re: FLUXLIST: Ditch Cloth, p. 4

[David Baptiste Chirot]

to this mind & ear & eye hear here --

in works of john m. bennet do  find great accomplishment of the 

remaking completely of GRAY'S ANATOMY

rerouting of nervous system --

via word transfusion of confusion fusion

to fusillades & fuselages outwo/ards

(sonic booms--

many long loud salutes !

--dave baptiste

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, John M. Bennett wrote:

> softened fog yr gag so often fetched my sliver stepped in
> hedge awaited loosely ate yr clothes sated wore I ,headdown
> ,crawling past store murmured in the butt collector fervent
> churning of the world ("heart burns") fragrant leakage
> through the socket flagrant flappy ("stallion") at the
> door slaps chest glass ,brim opening ,no rest close yr
> eyes see wheel explode hub acrid anus eye you rub
> 
> flappy stallion crest loft (or napping ear) gravitation dizzy
> you ,off sheer lip dropping pond or passage ("spit") straight
> down dries before ground plate bursts ,scalp hat cracks ,your
> thirst drain thick nap mouth-raw grain chewed chawed slopped
> cud wad spewed letter to the ectoplasm no better//salt hall
> febrile posturation please halt hog .fall brainer than ("bright
> fog") crumbling sleep stag ant gleams on pillow flag
> 
> pillow flag (door concussion) snore filled ("capsule") laparoscopic
> lecture snapping in your nap means how you know it creams
> flies attend dance until it dries (open cover let run down slope...)
> drops a hand dog ("some flops") chairleg o your bright sandwich
> hair) puke on fence your "name fluke"//putz straggling
> snoreward behind your cut eye drub looking still slow//thigh
> //core reamed ,haft blank ,single spore
> 
> (name fluke) gaseous flicker your same nut in shoe kiss
> your gut ream sliding pound the door keen rabbits under
> chairs some gnawing habits exponential uncontrolled aw jest
> chaw eggistential huh? lunes comatoso wakens your damp block
> thick sticky face ("or lock") blade ruddy with nonusage better
> fade not sausage arm burst with clot a backward run
> ning not he's a ,coagulation blender ,nostril in your conflagration
> 
> 
> 4
> John M. Bennett
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: Mail Art: "La Naranja" (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

A// ESPAÑOL
B// VALENCIÀ
C// FRANÇAIS
D// DEUTSCH
E// ENGLISH
F// ITALIANO


"Amigos Mail-artistas:

La exposición correspondiente a la convocatoria MAIL ART "LA NARANJA:
EXPRIME TUS IDEAS" se inaugurará en
El Puig (Valencia) el próximo 28 de enero de 2001. A partir de ese
momento comenzaran a enviarse los catálogos.

Muchas gracias por vuestra participación."



   Francesc Orts Hurtado

   Comisario exposición



"Amics Mail-artistes:

L´exposició corresponent a la convocatòria MAIL ART "LA TARONJA: ESPREM
LES TEUES IDEES" s´inaugurarà al
Puig (València) el pròxim 28 de gener de 2001. A partir d´aquest moment
s´hi enviaran els catàlegs.

Moltes gràcies per la vostra participació"



   Francesc Orts Hurtado

Comissari exposició


"Amis Mail-artistes:

Le vernissage correspondant à la convocation MAIL ART "L´ORANGE: PRESSE
TES IDÉES" aura lieu à El Puig
(Valence-Espagne) le prochain 28 janvier 2001. C'est à partir de ce
moment que l´on commencera à envoyer les
catalogues.

Merci beaucoup de votre participation."



   Francesc Orts Hurtado

  Comissaire de l´exposition




"Mail-Freunde- Künstler:

Die der Einberufung MAIL ART"DIE ORANGE: PRESS DEINE IDEEN AUS"
entsprechende Ausstellung wird in El Puig
(Valencia-Spanien) am nächsten 28 januar 2001 eröffnet. Die Kataloge
werden erst ab jenem Moment geschickt werden.

Vielen Dank für Eure Teilnahme."





   Francesc Orts Hurtado

   Ausstellungskommissar



"Dear Mail-art friends:

The exhibition MAIL-ART "THE ORANGE: SQUEEZE YOUR BRAINS" will open in
El Puig, (Valencia-Spain) on
january 28, 2001. Catalogues will be mailed over to you from that date
on.

Thank you all for your participation."



   Francesc Orts Hurtado

Organizer exhibition



"Amici Mail-artisti:

La mostra corrispondente alla convocazione MAIL ART "L´ARANCIA: SPREMI
LE TUE IDEE" verrà inaugurata a El
Puig (Valencia-Spagna) il prossimo 28 gennaio 2001. A partire da questa
data si spediranno i cataloghi.

Grazie della vostra partecipazione."

   Francesc Orts Hurtado

   Comisari de l´Exposició


---
http://www.fut.es/~boek861

FLUXLIST: Karenina.it Top News: orlan mori piegza wro costa vitale videofestival (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Thought this may be of great interest to many fellow flux
workers--

Wroclaw is wonderful place--the Grotowski theatre there

--dave baptiste

Karenina.it Top News: orlan mori piegza wro costa vitale videofestival
concorsi convegni

Grandi festival: WRO2000. Tutto il programma.
WRO2000@kultura, Wrocaw, November 20th -  December 10th, 2000
International exhibition, congress and artistic activities devoted to
changes of art, culture and everyday life in the age of digital technology.
Piotr Krajewski - artistic director
Violetta Kutlubasis-Krajewska - program director  Zbigniew Kupisz -
organizing director
Agnieszka Kubicka-Dzieduszycka - curatorial cooperation The Museum of
Wroclaw University, 1 Uniwersytecki Sq.  (Mathematical Tower, the attics,
Banach's Hall)

Orlan ci informa del suo recente lavoro: Triomphe du baroque.

Intervista a Mario Costa: impegnato da pi di vent'anni nella
definizione di un'estetica dei media, ha pubblicato un gran numero di saggi
e di volumi in
Italia e all'estero (di Ida Gerosa)

Incontro con Nando Vitale teorico della rete di formazione cyberpunk,
autore del volume Cyberguida LA RETE CONTRO IL NICHILISMO MEDIALE

Incontro con Richard Piegza performance in evoluzione nel web (di
Caterina Davinio)

Massimo Mori IL NONLUOGO DEI MUTAMENTI  / YIN e YANG di Massimo Mori
visto da Francesco Guerrieri e Piergiovanni Permoli

Poevisioni Elettroniche 2000 - 2001 Il programma: Catalogo / Schede
video / biografie degli artisti A DISPOSIZIONE DI OPERATORI CULTURALI
INTERESSATI

Il Grande Macello (di Marco Minicangeli)

Esperimenti e contaminazioni: Caterina Davinio su Doll's il sito delle
donne on line / Intervista / Arte, poesia e nuove tecnologie

PREMIO INTERNAZIONALE "DONNA E POESIA" 2000-2001 APERTURA: 01. 11. 2000
SCADENZA: 01. 04. 2001

Viaggio a Cuba: GRAN DESFILE DE ARTE CORREO Amigos, del 13 al 20 de
Noviembre estar en La Habana para participar en la 7ma. Bienal de La
Habana. (di Clemente Padin)

La rivista di ricerca letteraria "Anterem", diretta da Flavio Ermini,
bandisce la XV edizione per Premio Nazionale di Poesia "Lorenzo Montano".

 Milano: Meeting: "Scritture / Realt" Linguaggi e discipline a
confronto 18 e 19 novembre - NUOVO SPAZIO GUICCIARDINI
(Via Macedonio Melloni, 3 - Milano) Tra i relatori e gli artisti: Adam
Vaccaro, Marosia Castaldi, Gio Ferri, Gilberto Finzi, Milli Graffi, Tomaso
Kemeny, Caterina Davinio, Marica Larocchi, Giancarlo Majorino, Giancarlo
Pavanello, Franco Roman, Lelio Scanavini, Valeria Sgambati, Fausta
Squatriti, Adam Vaccaro, Giuliano Zosi, Domenico Cara, Gillo Dorfles, Flavio
Ermini, Giuliano Gramigna, Francesco Leonetti, Arrigo Lora Totino, Enrico
Baj, Emilio Isgr, Fausta Squatriti e moltissimi altri. Il programma
completo.

Roma: "Vetrina Internazionale del Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia"
Alfio Petrini ci parla del progetto

International Exhibition of Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia / Rome / Italy
Aree intermediali - Intermedia  From 17 to 26 November - Fifth Edition
Teatro Colosseo (Sala Grande) - Ridotto Colosseo (Sala A, B, C)., Via Capo d
'Africa, 5 Roma Experimental Theatre / Multimedia Performance /
International video / Digital video / Videoinstallation / Interactive
Installation / Stage / Photography / Poetry Performance / Editorial projects
for web / The Italian National Centre of Drama, directed by Alfio Petrini,
in the "Vetrina", dedicated to the intermedia, which takes pace in
Rome (Colosseo Theatre), presents, together with new pieces of research
theatre, a rich program of international video, digital video, interactive
installations, multimedia performances.
Il Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia, nella "Vetrina" dedicata alle aree
intermediali, presenta, accanto a nuove pieces di teatro di ricerca, un
ricco programma di video internazionali, alcune installazioni interattive,
performance multimediali.
Tra i partecipanti:
Fulvio Fiori, Alfio Petrini, Saverio La Ruina, Dario De Luca, Vasco
Mirandola, Giorgio Rossi, Simone Sandroni, Miguel Pereira, Antonio
Tagliarini, Anna De Manincor, Anna Rispoli, Leonardo Capuano, Bartolom
Ferrando, Agostino di Scipio (testi poetici di Mariano Baino, Mario Lunetta,
Anna Maria Giancarli) Stephen Cummins, "Mahalya Middlemist, Margie Medlin,
Brigid Kitchin, Paul Hampton & Trevor Patrick, Jessica Fallace & Micelle
Heaven, Cordelia Beresford, Quay Brothers,
Margaret Williams, David Hinton, Ross McGibbon, Jane Thorburn, Brett
Turnbull, Bob Bentley, Mike Stubbs, Dick Hauser, Wolke Kluppell, Paula van
der Oest, Annick Vroom, Marijke Jongbloed, Caterina Davinio, Andreas
Pinchler.

Patrocinio: Senato della Repubblica, Camera dei Deputati,  Ministero dei
Beni e delle Attivit Culturali Dipartimento dello Spettacolo, Regione
Lazio, Provincia di Roma,  Coordinamento dei Parlamentari per la Innovazione
Tecnologica, Associazione Nazionale dei Critici di Teatro, Sindacato
Nazionale Scrittori, Sindacato Nazionale Autori di t

FLUXLIST: netstrike:contra la pena de muerte (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:06:16 +0100
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: aitgna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netstrike:contra la pena de muerte

A// ESPAÑOL
B//INGLES

El 30 de noviembre 2000, desde las 18:00 a las 19:00
 Estado del Texas
http://www.state.tx.us/

Desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 horas
Del dia 30 de noviembre del 2000
Se llevarà a efecto la obstaculizaciòn y bloqueo pacìfico en señal de
protesta a dicho sitio, de la misma manera cuando miles de personas
participen en la huelga para parar el tràfico de las calles


1786ý2000
NETSTRIKE 214.T
CONTRA LA PENA DE MUERTE

El 30 de noviembre 2000, desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 horas, tenderà
lugar
una manifestaciòn  CONTRA LA PENA DE MUERTE, patrocinada por la Regiòn
Toscana (Florencia, Fortezza da Basso). Con motivo de celebrar el
aniversario de la renuncia a la pena de muerte de parte del Granducado
de
Toscana en 1.786 (primeros en el mundo).  En una serie de instalaciones
artisticas, los artistas Tommaso Tozzi y Giacomo Verde, con la
colaboraciòn
de muchisimos grupos y asociaciones nacionales e internacionales,
invitan a
ud. (s) a participar a un desfile virtual de protesta contra los sitios
del
Texas Department of Criminal Justice y del Estado de Texas, proponiendo
seguir el netstrike  contra los sitios  de todos  los otros paises donde

aùn rige la ley de la pena de muerte (ver mas adelante LA LISTA DE LOS
PAISES DONDE AUN RIGE LA LEY DE PENA DE MUERTE)

"Me parece absurdo que las leyes, que expresan la volumtad pùblica, que
detestan y castigan el homicidio, que cometen ellos mismos, para alejar
a
los ciudadanos
del asesinato ordenan un asesino pùblico".
Con estas palabras  Cesare Beccaria en 1764 denunciaba la bàrbara e
inùtil
pena de muerte: algunos años despuès, en 1786, el Granducado de Toscana
abolìa la pena de muerte en su estado..

Docientos años mas tarde, 11.000 hombres y mujeres estàn en espera de
ser
ejecutados en uno de los 118 paises que aùn mantienen la pena capital.
Solo
en 1998 han sido seguidos almenos 1625 homicidios de Estado y casi 4.000

personas han sido condenadas a muerte.

Ya es hora de decir basta a una pena ineficaz y que pone al mismo nivel
del
criminal la sociedad y el Estado, transformandose en asesinos.
Ya es hora que la sociedad civil mundial haga sentir su voz.
Es hora que tù tambièn hagas algo: basta  un click desde tu casa-junto a

otros cientos en todo el mundo - para obstaculizar o hacerlo colapsar el

sitio. La finalidad de la manifestacion es presionar a las Instituciones
de
los paises en los cuales aùn  rige la pena de muerte, con el fin de que
suspendan inmediatamente todas las ejecuciones ya previstas y adopten
medidas para abolir definitivamente la pena de muerte, por su propia
disposiciòn.

El netstrike y sus motivaciones han sido comunicadas ya sea a los
representantes de los sitios del Texas Department of Criminal Justice y
del
Estado de Texas como tambièn  a los principales medios de comunicaciòn
y
organizaciones internacionales en grado de difundir antes y despuès la
noticia.

Vuestra comunicaciòn permanente (simultaneamente con otros miles de
personas de todo el mundo) puedes hacerlo a las siguientes direcciones:

Departimiento de Justicia Criminal del Texas
http://tdcj.state.tx.us/

o tambièn

Estado del Texas
http://www.state.tx.us/

Desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 horas
Del dia 30 de noviembre del 2000
Se llevarà a efecto la obstaculizaciòn y bloqueo pacìfico en señal de
protesta a dicho sitio, de la misma manera cuando miles de personas
participen en la huelga para parar el tràfico de las calles (leer mas
adelante las RECOMENDACIONES PARA UN BUEN FUNCIONAMIENTO DEL NETSTRIKE).

Para quien quiera seguir las faces de la movilizaciòn y comentarlas en
internet en tiempo real puede contactarse con los otros participantes
para
encontrarse durante la hora del cortejo electrònico en una chat o canal
irc
(un reencuentro històrico de los nestrikers es por ejemplo el canal
#Hackit99 en el server www.ecn.org).

Para  màs informaciòn referentes al netstrike conectarse a los
siguientes
sitios:

http://www.netstrike.it/214t/

-
SUGERENCIAS PARA UN BUEN FUNCIONAMIENTO DEL NETSTRIKE
-

Para una participaciòn mas eficiente al netstrike se aconseja seguir las

siguientes indicaciones tècnicas:

- No sectar proxy  para su conecciòn

- Sectar a 0 la cache de su browser

- Continùa oprimiendo la tecla Reload continuamente

--
LISTA DE LOS PAISES DONDE AUN RIGE LA PENA DE MUERTE
--

Afghanistan, Algeria, Antigua e Barbuda, Arabia Saudita Armenia,
Bahamas,
Bahrein, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Bielorussia, Botswana,
Burkina Faso, Burundi, Camerun Ciad, Cile, Comore, Corea del Nord, Corea

del Sur, Cuba, Dominica, Egipto, Emirados Arabos Unidos, Eritrea,
Etiop

FLUXLIST: MAIL ART DAY : December 5 - Edition 2000

[David Baptiste Chirot]

HI EVERYBODY

PLEASE PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROJECT FROM GREAT VORTICE PEOPLE--

ONWO/ARDS!
--DBCHIROT

(not to be confused with DBCOOPER!)


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:55:48 -0300
From: VORTICE ARGENTINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: MAIL ART DAY : December 5 - Edition 2000

MAIL ART DAY - december 5 - Edition 2000
Find the information of the project to participate at:
www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/proyectos/mail_art_day.htm
DEADLINE: until november 30. Thanks to participate and pass along the info.
...
VORTICE ARGENTINA c/o Fernando Garcia Delgado
Bacacay 3103 - Buenos Aires, C1406GEE - Argentina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.vorticeargentina.com.ar

Re: FLUXLIST: The Fluxlist Seed Exchange

[David Baptiste Chirot]

i think i forgot to include my address for your listing of these

dave baptiste chirot
2515 n. oakland #106
Milwaukee,WI 53211
usa

in the Jim Thompson novel THE KILLER INSIDE ME

there is  a great scene in which the lawyer who alone 
has
understood the narrator/protagonist--his psychosis
which is self-described as the two way split

--sums things up seeingly inexplicable even to the killer himself
in
these words:

"A weed is a plant out of place."

-dbc

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, { brad brace } wrote:

> 
> Great! Weed-seeds are fine; no restrictions. Just include at least a few
> in each packet. Fast approaching 30 contributors from three lists; will
> post names/addresses soon. I'd like to see 40-50. 
> 
> /:b
> 
> 
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> > 
> > i am interested to also send--
> > 
> > is okay to send what find around here?
> > 
> > as some or a lot are weeds
> > 
> > (which i enjoy a lot--the flower of my home state,redclover of
> > vermont out here on milwaukee
> > edges of battered streets--thistles etc--)
> > 
> > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, { brad brace } wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > The Fluxlist Seed Exchange:
> > > 
> > > Just a few specimens of a local variety. Your choice. In 50 nice little
> > > handmade/labeled packets: 2 x 3.25" Deadline TBA. All contributors receive
> > > one of all contributions. Housed in a lovely little rusted tin box. 
> > > Indicate interest: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: The Fluxlist Seed Exchange

[David Baptiste Chirot]

i am interested to also send--

is okay to send what find around here?

as some or a lot are weeds

(which i enjoy a lot--the flower of my home state,redclover of
vermont out here on milwaukee
edges of battered streets--thistles etc--)

dave baptiste chirot

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, { brad brace } wrote:

> 
> The Fluxlist Seed Exchange:
> 
> Just a few specimens of a local variety. Your choice. In 50 nice little
> handmade/labeled packets: 2 x 3.25" Deadline TBA. All contributors receive
> one of all contributions. Housed in a lovely little rusted tin box. 
> Indicate interest: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> /:b
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: rec.music.experimental

[David Baptiste Chirot]

 just did vote

YES

here--but i shd warn you i live in milwaukee,wisconsin

we may soon have to have our votes here recounted!

i live right near the fire station where we vote so will keep you
informed

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Sol Nte wrote:

> >I'm looking for people who will vote *YES* for the creation of
> rec.music.experimental in an email election.  r.m.e. is a proposed
> newsgroup on usenet where people can post messages and discuss topics
> concerning experimental music and theory.  There are currently 275
> supporters.  I'd like to get this number up to 350.  The election will be
> held near the end of November.<
> 
> Sure, what group do we vote in alt.config?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Sol. 
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: rec.music.experimental

[David Baptiste Chirot]

i will vote 

YES

dave baptiste chirot




On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm looking for people who will vote *YES* for the creation of
> rec.music.experimental in an email election.  r.m.e. is a proposed
> newsgroup on usenet where people can post messages and discuss topics
> concerning experimental music and theory.  There are currently 275
> supporters.  I'd like to get this number up to 350.  The election will be
> held near the end of November.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Brent Bruni Comiskey
> (eyedunno)
> 
> 
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: SING CERTAIN DEAD HOUSE

[David Baptiste Chirot]

people apart corner apart

enclosure within inner

prison barracks in divisions

convicts divided in empty forms


purtiest tied up
plans
drove forays into
matter
memories overdose
distance
distance from present 
gone

convicts names clever counting

wide space between buildings

prisoners walk think thoughts hidden

eyes meeting faces thinkining counting


run-down marvelous
after death
premonitions running
 out
premonition drove
 quiet battles
no record of mind's
 smooth change

counting counted and noted

marked glance see number

prison prison prison

convict prisoners ikons


creaking heavy courtyard gate

sign  of nature hopeless scheme

unbelievable strange gymnastics

inquisitive eyes out of breath



final Musicians music voice

song memory God-given music

lyrics sing fly mind wailing

God comin' down welling in eyes


House of the Dead

House of Certain Death

Sing a Sad Song

prison at the edge  



words from
F. Dostoyevsky
The HOuse of the Dead
Roger M. Williams
Sing A Sad Song  The Life of Hank Williams 
Albert Cossery 
The House of Certain Death
arranged by
david baptiste chirot

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: What actually IS wrong w/ the Art World

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Estimado Terrence:

Do you participate in Mail Art?
I think you wd find many of the ideas and energies you are "for" in
vibrant swing there--as well as the debates related to this one here--

for example see the Open Debate of Mail Art

to which over fifty artists have contributed--ongoing throughout
this year--
I think you will find there a great many theses in all manner of
thinkings, makings, proposals--re the questions this discussion is concerned
with here.

http://www.fut.es/~boek861 

also--even in the best laid plans of mice and men and the best
cast
"nets" of any one typing away--do occur these typos which slide and slip
into the stream and so enter in, causing with fractal shifts quite some
interesting mutations--and further developments as for example from your
post

"and the rights for many groups to be herd"

ah! the slips of the lips & tongue and writing hand & eye

Freudian or any other wise slippage occuring

in Ionesco's play RHINOCEROS--there indeed the "herd"--heard--loud
trampling rushing stampede of the clanking swarm--

yet as well the person who for some reason--does not take part--

though not at all "lonely individual"--

(person standing in front of tanks in Tienamen Square--not
alone, knows many many are with her/him--many eyes besides camera eyes
see--)

but Mail Art activities going on

communication, "never alone"--

this question is much brought up at the Mail Art Debate--as some
persons have indeed essayed both the commercialization and the
institutionalization of Mail Art--

(one thinks back to the wonderful news posting to this list of the
Fake Ray Johnson events a few weeks ago--and many thanks again to all the
correspondents who gave forth with such generous and devastating and
enjoyable reports--)

I do not believe that it is ever possible for a totality to exist in
which all things may be "territorialized" in Deleuze and Guattari's
terms--

corraled, pigeon holed, rounded up, shot, imprisoned or hung out
to
dry at auction houses and in the homes of self congratulatory
bourgoisie--documented to death like so many pinned and classified
butterlies or carefully inscripted in databank vaults the likes of vast
tombs--

no--i think in Mail Art and in a myriad other activities being
carried on continually of William S. Burroughs' final lines appending his
"Glossary" for the book JUNKIE (first published 1953, NY: Ace)

Not only do the words change meanings but  meanings vary locally 
at the same time.  A final glossary, therefore, can not be made of
words whose intentions are fugitive (17)

Deleuze and Guattari would speak and write of "lines of flight"
and
being "elusive to capture" here--

but I do think as well of old t-shirt and collage by Coup de
Grace,
Boston 1985:

Be Street Smart  Don't Get Caught


Or as Pascal wrote, allowing ample room for amplified noise and
"underground" music  slippage--

("Out of  noise arises music"- Prigogine & Stengers)-

"It is not the elements which are new but the order of their
arrangement"

--dbchirot

("noise" here also meant in terms of information
theory--)

On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Terrence Kosick wrote:

> Terrence writes;
> 
> 
> To achieve such ends it could be merely the application of a network way of
> thinking.  Formal application of art for culture has ended up  in museums that
> protect it from the people.  Most of the largest institutions are buildings
> whose donators are from periods where there was a a nationalistic bent and
> great wealth was generated.  Their lasting presence house not only art work but
> the idea of the passive end of wealth.   It is a matter of seeing a goal for
> creative works that will keep their ideas more active.  What better place then
> here to establish such ends?
> 
> The West's democratic achievements of the free flow of information and the
> rights for many groups to be herd could easily be drowned out by commercial
> onslaught and the success blur caused by ever increasing rewards for art works.
> Rewards that stifle the voice from the work as it is placed in the din of
> success and rewards.   How great the reward and where it is placed but never
> much of the message of the work or the realization that its very success is an
> attention concentration that removes the focus of the media and thus the eyes
> of the greater audience from the multifarious voice.
> 
> What have you got to say to the greatest number of people?   Do you want to
> speak to the ever widening Network Audience or a few collectors and
> institutional bodies and critics, the clamor of a few?   Do you want to hear
> what many more are saying?   Perhaps it is

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H. MANIFESTO

[David Baptiste Chirot]

i think this discussion--

it betrays too much anxiety 

somehow to me is having too little faith in the work

maybe i am just getting to be old idiot anymore

i think the only questions with art are the practical ones

relations among the materials

how one works back and forth with them

and they with on

finding

not searching

the concrete --

ways the concrete opens

the materials in themselves already so vast dense fluid

so many so much and deep ongoing

"before one" be for one--"already here all the time"

rhythms forms letters shapes colors movements 

energy made visible

plenty enough questions and materials to work with


(for example recent inspiring and useful, enlightening discussion
sharing methods of making transfers--

changing from lighter fluid to acetone and of the materials methods

the different kinds of papers to use--so many--and how changed
with time--

whole new worlds of possibilities!

and sharing of knowledges leaned through practice by different
makers, workers--

all this is practical

the rest becomes beside the point

art can be made with anything at anytime

learning from the anything leads to particular things

learning from anytime leads to learning discipline

learning things and time

forms and rhythms

i live in continual chaos

so what--from things and time arranngements are found among the
materials

rhythms and forms

"it is not the elements which are new, it is the order of their
arrangement"--Blaise Pascal

is always best to be simple, which means truly thinking with
materials, the concrete--and from these finding the complexities, the
openings, what it is that one may make with the materials 
with the forms and rhythms

"with" them--together

i do think the rest becomes anxiety --

and is disruptive distracting and--discourse

there are no theories without practice

and with practice--is action, not "after the fact"

or "pre-determined"

not set limits

but limits one is among

which provoke,challenge, stimulate--

the things the moments the materials the rhythms the forms

light is simultanenously particle and wave

materials and work are particulars, discrete, concrete
--and wave, flowing in time--and with light, energy

-movements

working together


is "an exchange"--


as Don Cherry the jazz musician great trumpet player composer
player
of so many instruments reader of so many notations--

wd say:

"only a truly disciplined musician may play Free Jazz"

practice--and materials  


the study of sidewalk cracks--leads to new
scripts--arrangements--scorings--improvisations--with practice

Mayakovsky in HOW ARE VERSES MADE  noting how a poet

works continuously--and every occaision every street corner every sound
every word is material to be constantly worked with with the rhythms

the forms--

choice and "chance"--

out of chaos, noise--arises music
 
"the attention and the care"


actually in the early 1930s the great painter and ally with
Futurist poets Zaum poets ad worked with Mayakovsky on i think was 1912"
opera--

Malevich, Kasmir Malevich

wrote an essay on sloth

in a sense ironic as at the time so much emphasis on WORK and
SOCIALIST REALISM

--i.e.--the end in Russia of the great experimental arts and
poetries--

the 'SLOTH' of abstraction, imagination, etc--Transrational Zaum,
the end of Mayakovsky and so many others--literally--or their silence--

that subversive ability of the materials

simple as "white square on a white square"

to elude materialism

while being immensely practical

when being practised--

"Creation survives in fragments under the ruins of a world for
which we can no longer find expression>"

(W. Weidle, qtd Hans Richter, DADA ART AND ANTI-ART 214)


the fragments are the materials found

"laying about"-

from which arrangements of elements are made

with forms, rhythms--

ruins for which no longer expressions--made into something
other--presenting arrangements of lost expressions in "new found"
"orders'--"speaking--showing--telling--singing--dancing--living--to be
moved
among--

a great workshop is mail art--as has themes, sizes, deadlines--

and is non commercial non juried non returned--

   

FLUXLIST: Svjetlana Mimica/Mail Art (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 13:29:11 +0100
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Vesna Milicevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Svjetlana Mimica/Mail Art

A//INGLES
B//ESPAÑOL

A//


INTERNATIONAL MAIL ART PROJECT
Theme: THE VILLAGE OF STARS
Size: FREE
Deadline: AUGUST 2001
No return, documentation to all participants

Send your mail art to:
SVJETLANA MIMICA
M.GETALDICHA 5
21000 SPLIT
CROATIA

B//

PROYECTO INTERNACIONAL DE MAIL ART
TEMA: LA ALDEA DE LAS ESTRELLAS
MEDIDAS: LIBRE
FECHA LIMITE: AGOSTO DEL 2001
NO DEVOLUCION Y DOCUMENTACION A TODOS LOS PARTICIPANTES

ENVIA TU OBRA A:
SVJETLANA MIMICA
M.GETALDICHA 5
21000 SPLIT
CROATIA

---

http://www.fut.es/~boek861

Re: FLUXLIST: businss cards

[David Baptiste Chirot]

hanks PK for the card for the retired one's business

there are indeed
quite prosperous ones
who have no phone no card
no fixed address no set hours
no name as such
no fixed office
yet
one knows where to find them

come with me 
says a stranger
i know the way


-dbc

Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's intriguing. Over what? That's an interesting idea -

[David Baptiste Chirot]

"it is not the elements which are new, but the order of their

arrangement"

-Blaise Pascal

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Performance Workbook?

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Select a day when you are at home
All day ask of everyone who enters
to empty the contents of all their pockets, bags etc
catalogue these
they will be retrieved by the visitors upon leaving
At the end of the day/late evening
make from the catalogings flyers of the most desirious objects
and post them throughout nearby neighborhoods
as "missing objects"
with an undisclosed  reward offered for their return
and your address/phone to contact

Document by answering machine or any other means
any replies

If your visitors  respond questioningly
perhaps recognizing the objects
demand their return

"Possesion is nine-tenths of the Law"


--dbchirot

FLUXLIST: All Saints Parade collage poem 10/31/00

[David Baptiste Chirot]

31 October 2000
All Saints Eve
Halloween



crazy feeling in streets
music out of jukebox funeral

floating down unconcerned
nailing naked to stakes

dead drifted in breeze  
artificial sky cobalt blue


--plans and solutions pour in
hard reality given free rein--

tremendous photographs traveled
in agility, mystery, sadness

uproars,  Rivers, bluenesses
deliriums, rhtyhms, rednesses


Indian Summer sky
great shield gleamed

--at first glance geniuses
knocked balistic ideas wild--

strange secrecy of shadow
scenes never before seen

skies lightnings waterspouts
breakers, currents, flock of doves

monument bridge connected
cinema-tized site


--writing paper colossal
enormous Opera octavo--

artist seeing pictures
knowing jukebox coffin

imagined low-hanging sun mystic
horrors lighting coagulations

overexposed picture
photographing photograph

--parade every system,
invention and subterfuge--

always taking pictures
jukebox coffins mysteries

antique dramas, distances
dreamed of dazzled eyes

monstrous light-bulb
projected   
detached stills into eye

--suggested, shaped, as expected
human aspect eyes revolving--

bright liquid dusk secret
incantations never known

undreamed of singing
singing driftings ineffable

enormous photograph
existed
enormous movie
   continuous

--concentric circles attract
fresh brilliant solutions--

picture sun window setting
holy halo caught on film

martyr lifted shadow-flower
pale-eyed clamouring into sleep

passed over water
   axis
inert shape
unknown
cargo


--sky pilot turned on pictures
fabulous disaster died looking--



words from
Jack Kerouac
Intro to Robert Frank's
The Americans
Arthur Rimbaud
The Drunken Boat
Robert Smithson
A Tour of the Monuments of Passaic, New Jersey
Louis-Ferdinand Celine
Death on the Installment Plan
arrangement by
dave baptiste chirot

FLUXLIST: Communique 30/10/2000 (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Perhaps some one may be interested in this rather unusual request?


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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:00:18 +0100
From: Agence Art Presse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Communique 30/10/2000

Agence Art Presse 
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French + English

Pour se desabonner de cette liste, veuillez envoyer un email à 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] avec le mot "desabonnement" 
comme sujet.

Communiqué - le 30 octobre 2000, Paris
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LebaneseGroup est un groupe international de personnes cree a 
l’initiative de Ricardo Mbarak en novembre 1999, qui oeuvrent 
au-dela de leurs frontieres geographiques, economiques ou 
politiques pour la paix au Proche-Orient.

A l’occasion de la soutenance de son diplome en sculpture de fin 
d’etudes a l’Ecole Nationale Superieure des Beaux Arts de Paris 
en decembre 2000, Ricardo Mbarak vous invite a exposer votre 
opinion sur Lebaneses Group.

Vos réflexions en tant qu’oeuvre d’art seront transmises 
integralement aux membres de son jury de diplôme. 
Pour participer il suffi de repondre aux questions suivantes :

1. Y a t-il  a un rapport entre l’art est la paix ? Si oui, lequel ?
2. Lebanese Group est-il de l’art ? Si oui, en quoi ?

L’envoi se fait par Internet (email) ou  par la poste (courrier).

Vos reflexions sont est attendues avant le 30 novembre 2000. 
Vous serez tenus informes de la reception de votre courrier dont 
une copie sera mise sur le site www.lebanesegroup.com.  

Adresse :
Ricardo Mbarak
279, rue de Belleville
75019 Paris
France

email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Pour plus d’information :
Tel. +(33) 1. 42.41.54.86
http://www.lebanesegroup.com 
Note: Les lettres qui lui sont envoyes jusqu'à ce jour se trouvent 
sur http://www.lebanesegroup.com dans ‘History > Exhibitions > 
List of participants’




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Press release - October 30, 2000, Paris.
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LebaneseGroup is an international group created by Ricardo 
Mbarak in November 1999, where people who have different 
political perspectives, participate at the peace process in the 
Middle-East without any geographical, social or political 
constraints.
You are invited by Ricardo Mbarak to participate in the realization 
of his Diploma at the National Fine Arts School of Paris. The 
Diploma will be presented in December 2000. Your participation 
consist of answering these questions:

1. Is there a relation between art and peace? If  yes, what is this 
relation?
2. do you consider LebaneseGroup art? if yes, how?

Your letters are waited to be received (by post or by email) before 
30 November, 2000. A scanned copy of your letter will be put 
http://www.lebanesegroup.com (if you are not against).
These letters will be transfered to the members of the diploma 
jury.

Address by post:
Ricardo Mbarak
279, rue de Belleville
75019 Paris
France

email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


For more information:
Tel. +(33) 1. 42.41.54.86
http://www.lebanesegroup.com
PS. At http://www.lebanesegroup.com, a list of participants 
could be found in "History > Exhibitions > List of participants"





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Re: FLUXLIST: unfi pro

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Dear roger radio:

for give me writing in/complete sentences

am sending on to you as has been unfinished waiting to do so

unfinished works

unvarnished truth

ill concealed bamboozlements

half eaten sandwiches

the remnents of a mind

the corrosions of a heart

the tarred lungs

the unworking half a hand

the half baked schemes

the one shoe

the glass:  Half empty? or half full?

the dilipidated deck of cards missing a few jacks and an ace

the brain with a few screws loose

the vacuum cleaner without a bag

the lighter without a flint

the man without a country

the conspiracy without a plot

the ship without a compass

the mirror without a glass

the deal with no strings attached

the tree without roots

the circumference with no center

the numbers with no zero

what went off without a hitch

the ambassador without portfolio

the book without a cover

the sorrow with no memory

the man with no price on his head

the illustrations without a text

the suit with no buttons

the pain without limits

the rhyme with no reason

the departure without gving notice

the crime without motive

the suicide with no note

the map with no scale

the anger without cause

that which "goes without saying"

the killing without license

the undeclared war

the unsigned document

"the song without end"

"the road not taken"

"the missing link"

"the lost continent"

"the lineage without heirs"

"the game called due to rain"

"no pain no gain"

"the man without qualities"

"the names of the vicitims witheld"

they who "vanished wihtout a clue"

"the unfinished symphony" 

"the house without a home"

"the contract without amenities"

"the dog without a bone"

"the untold story"

& the nights without her . . . 

Re: FLUXLIST: EventScore for Millennial Workbook

[David Baptiste Chirot]

all you need for this is a pack any kind of cigarettes and some
unmitigated gall and effrontery

standing yourself at some busy crossroads near shops where
distracted passersby may be found in some supply

approach on at a time and ask:

do you smoke?

if the answer is yes:

give tirade on the evils of smoking and break a cigarette in front
of them

stamping your feet and gnashing your teeth--though do try to be
within reason and not resemble too much a rabid soul in throes of seizure


if the person says no:

immediately proffer them a cigarette with non stop verbal assault
patter in charming used car dealer voice extollng the virtues of smoking,
the pleasures, the long and illustrious history of famous men women and
chimpanzees who have smoked, the role smoking played in the movies, in the
economic history of the world in Montezuma's Revenge--

and while doing this with great smoothness of patter and style
slide from used car salesman's vice into that of a magician performing for
children then into sententious virtuous tones of tv evangelist

keep this up as long as possible while evading bodily harm or
arrival of police

if the latter occurs tell the officers that you are simply
conducting a kind of "action event' survey on behalf f the local chapter of
the SOS

Stamp Out Smoking

any papers you receive from the police will confer a documentary
status upon the project


any injuries entailed will be duly noted
by photographic documentation as "body language

if nothing untoward occurs vis-a-vis smoking--

try this again , only subsituting in the procedure a few packets 
of
"Slim Jims" in place of cigarettes

and instead of smoking being the issue, change to the eating of
meat


onwo/ards!

dave bc

FLUXLIST: kiss me deadly marinetti

[David Baptiste Chirot]

sunday 29 october 2000
chilly and faint sun 




all saw there in headlights glare
waving arms huge puppet spit out curse

destructive principle occurred 
stone marble bronze left by centuries  
 

wrenched slide brought out splash of power
cliff fishtailed gouging furrow 

masterpieces remain 
vast ugly fragility 
masterworks vast sifted residue

sweeping curve on stolen time
headlights burned out hole

phenomena nomadism
decline of imperishable

stink of burned hung in air
thinking damned hands slammed hell

authority mysticism law
usurping power of speed

fumbled noticed shaking lit words
lights of another flicked back fear

wholly new phenomena
absolutely huge and fast

throwing over cliff
light swept on past
frozen expressionlessly

hillside sited horizons
immense perfected body

red tail light let out breath
wide-set mouth conjured dream

responsive to utility
lines and foundations

crazy engine wheel my brain
halfway expect a mountain jump

loom out of confused launch
into sky mount clouds hands

opened tongue snake painting
rockface a stream of hell smoke

shadow definitive twisting
racing create speed abolished space

somewhere a hell stranded thing
going frozen to a straightway

diminished time multiplied
abolition of phenomena fused

watching eyes looked back again
closed mouth words stare in hand

tragic return losing minds
noctambulism melted day and night

long incline merged into maze
neons tires force contact edged

expressed whirlwind intense ideal
savage eruption cruel violence

staring sign flashing light
waving trouble smoke over ice

struggle provoked decisive gain 
Manifesto a hurricane racing
beautiful explosive gift

watch it crack and shatter force
horrible contraction scream 

beautiful framework color of danger
arms claw comb out stars comets eye

throat beam trouble hung for effect
sudden urgency quick hand in flesh


skeleton rhythms hammers hearts time 
let it happen great drop of blood

fluid motion no doubting meaning
amplified legs awake came on ahead

burning passion built bivouacs
immense impassioned ever-changing Future

words from
Kill Me, Deadly
by 
Mickey Spillane
&
The Birth of a Futurist Aesthetic
by
F. T. Marinetti
arrangement
dbchirot

FLUXLIST: memory collage

[David Baptiste Chirot]

27 october 2000
grey windy rain in air



fell into quiet pattern
long enough to see
flowed vanished gone
out of memory so just memory
inescapable as flesh



gathered all memories
held Time in hands

now about to get it
think into words

mind drenched with scent
Time melted in fingers

now turned to open 
between finger and thumb

folded holding

dripped with aromas inner
woods blooms and root

paper into powder
catching last dust


pure life immaculate myth
tranquil fearful thoughts in mind

ground it until vanished
burned and returned it was waiting

dread distilled ripe and flaming
sweet swoon seized  unstitched

all would stand to hand
when light on hulk a murmur

full veins opened unutterable
body's nets cast to world 


in palm breeze bringing smell wild
blowing dying west bright star

five elements strove to forge
form world-wandering now farewell

Night wasn't just memory
Memory half of remembering

night at dawn by crossroads
hold hands twine fingers

body thighs hands making
so little to want to ask

five strong elements
at crossroads of brain

memory live and stand to hand
plain serene murmuring wild

whole world kin rushed to sprout

met and merged

flesh memory all of remembering

spread hands and body
farewell O homeless mind

between grief and nothing
I take grief

open your arms wide 

gripping stong foundations


words from
Nikos Kazantzakis
The Odyssey  A Modern Sequel
&
Willim Faulkner
The Wild Palms
arrangment
dbchirot

FLUXLIST: singsing

[David Baptiste Chirot]

SINGSING

for George Jones
and his song
"Time Don't Mean Thing to Me (I've Got Life to Go)"


SING  SING
 SIN  SIN
  IN  IN
 I  
  IN  IN
 SIN  SIN
SING  SING


keep on repeating as "got to life to go"--


and "time don't mean a thing" . . .

--dbc

Re: FLUXLIST: e-mail my body

[David Baptiste Chirot]

 i traded in my soul 
 for heap of used parts
spray paint cannisters
acetylene torch scissors & glue

and now going to make another

--dbc

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Markku Nivalainen wrote:

> Have you seen my soul? I lost it quite a while ago.
> The last sighting was in Austin, Texas about a month ago.
> 
> It's dark and probably possessed.
> 
> There's a small reward!
> 
> Markku Nivalainen
> Inkoonkatu 9a10
> 00510 Helsinki
> Finland
> 
> > i too am quite interested
> > 
> > and am intentionally responding non-privately
> > so that others might send me...anything
> > (send and ye shall recieve)
> > 
> > skot spear
> > 537 river rd.
> > windham me. 04062
> > united states
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: coal age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDoo

[David Baptiste Chirot]

dear AK:

as a PYM fan-=-you will also like very much Eric Basso's
startling and "story-that-once-read-never-stops-haunting-you" THE BEAK
DOCTOR which included in a collection of that name:

THE BEAK DOCTOR  Short Fiction 1972-76

(Paradise: Asylum Arts, 1999) 

it's a masterpiece--

Eric Basso is from Baltimore--and PYM  was inspired by Poe's
listening, while living in Baltimore and sharing an attic room with his
sailor brother, to the latter'
s tales told in delirium while dying from consumption,slowly and before
Poe's eyes, as later his wife was also to do and also from consumption

actually-- i never thought of thia before--the cannibalism in
PYM--another one of Poe's cruel pribate little punning jokes as:
"comsumption" devoured the bodies of his brother and wife--


but that wasn't why i first grabbed those two books to make
something to go with rhythm i felt in my head--

both books right by each other on little old fruite crate
shelf--and both bound in black with white images on them--

then realized--both from Baltimore!

pages chosen at random--just the first one in each book opened
to--

a mixture of chance and choice:  as going through words and
selecting
them in their arrangements--they do have call and response--and as one
finds the way--a direction--

sent it to a friend later the day made it--and now learn will be a
chapbook or in a magazine in australia!

wonders of the world wide web , email etc--

one "loses oneself" in the voices--and they reappear in print on
other side of world--

meaning words do indeed have life of their own . . . 

    --dbc

 On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, ann klefstad wrote:

> 
> 
> David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> 
> > 25/10/00 pastel afternoon
> >
> > coal-age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDo
> > a score for two or more
> >  voices
> 
> Ah! Pym! That wonderful text. I don't know the other, have to look it up.
> 
> very very nice
> 
> AK
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: coal age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDoo

[David Baptiste Chirot]

25/10/00 pastel afternoon

coal-age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDo
a score for two or more
 voices

Undergound behind rockface

not far from ravine

down with nothing between

fallen place, singular wildness 


stratum after stratum 

level by level


   aspect dreary,

degraded Babylon


Rusted shade of fog

sockets of dust


ruins chaotic

strewn wreck gigantic


tracks in dirt

Promonontory Wall

no art detected

shapeless intermingled marl


fierce dream of roof-struts

mercurial insomnias

  granulated traces

 desolate sight immense



Eyelids holes pouring

long eyes on desert



elsewhere found immediate

 distant view several


vigil skull as basin

mist into silhouette


  concealment proceeded

threading route rushed time
 


shadow recedes vanishing

trees keep going

thrown from precipice

 cast aside order


minutes pass roving

light without light


firing quick purpose

ever killing masters


one who sits on edge

one who listens never

rapidly had reality

dead in contemplation



words arranged from one page each:

THE BEAK DOCTOR by Eric BASSO

THE NARRATIVE OF ARTHUR GORDON PYM by Edgar Allan POE 

Re: FLUXLIST: e-mail art my body away & virtual tatoo

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Pez:

i would like to take the eyes

open or shut--

if not

the hands

open or shut--

palm or fist

many thanks, 

dave baptiste

FLUXLIST: MAIL ART DAY : International Call & Exhibition (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 11:01:51 -0300
From: VORTICE ARGENTINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: MAIL ART DAY : International Call & Exhibition

-
MAIL ART DAY - EDITION 2000
BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA
-

To conmemorate the Mail Art Day - Edition 2000, we organize two big events
in two differents cities:

1-) in Buenos Aires, at the Central Post Office: December 5.
2-) in La Plata, at the Museum of Contemporary Art of La Plata: December 8.

-
INTERNATIONAL CALLS
-

1-)

INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION OF ARTISTAMPS
MAIL ART DAY - DECEMBER 5, 2000
BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA

VORTICE ARGENTINA calls all Argentine and foreign artists and mail artists
to participate of an international exhibition of postal stamps created by artists to
to take place at the Central Palace of the Argentine Mail Office. This exhibition is
among the activities to commemorate the Mail Art Day in Argentina, as this very
year marks the 25th anniversary of the first international exhibition of mail art in
our country *.

STAMPS: We're open to receive series and single stamps. A coupon was designed
for the single stamps to be mounted during the exhibition. ( see attached ).
When you print the coupon, the size of it must be 9 x 16 cms.
Coupons also are available at the VORTICE ARGENTINA website by clicking in:
www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/proyectos/MAD_artistamp_coupon.htm
or, if you want to receive them via e-mail, you can ask for them by writing
to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SUPPORTING COUPONS: Supporting coupons help to negotiate the edition
of an official postal stamp by the Argentine Mail. Those who haven't sent their
supporting coupons still can send them. These coupons are essential in order to
complete the project to be presented to the Argentine Mail Office.
Thus, only the originals are accepted by us; otherwise, we won't take any
documentation. You can get your Supporting Coupon at:
www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/proyectos/MAD_support_coupon.htm
or, if you want to receive them via e-mail, you can ask for them by writing
to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ARTWORKS RECEPTION DEADLINE: until November 25, 2000
EXHIBITION'S OPENING: December 5, 2000

All materials won't be returned, and they'll become part of the Vortice Argentina
Archive. Once the exhibition ends, assorted documentation will be sent to every
participant, while general information will be featured on the Internet.

Please send your materials and supporting coupons to:

VORTICE ARGENTINA
Bacacay 3103
C1406GEE, Buenos Aires
Argentina

For further information about the MAIL ART DAY project go to:
www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/proyectos/mail_art_day.htm

Organizers: Fernando García Delgado / Juan Carlos Romero

* NOTE: The "Last International Exhibition of Mail Art" took place at Alvaro
Castagnino New Art Gallery, on December 5, 1975. This was the very first
exhibition of Mail Art ever organized in Argentina, by Edgardo A.Vigo and
Horacio Zabala, where 199 artists from 24 countries have participated.

THANK YOU FOR PROMOTING THIS INFORMATION.

-

2-)

LA PLATA, VIGO'S HOMETOWN

The La Plata City Town Council Culture Department calls all artists to participate
in a Mail Art meeting in Edgardo Antonio Vigo's hometown, where he also developed
all of his art activities.

The exhibition will take place in the old building at Pasaje Dardo Rocha, where the
original post office that Vigo visited to send and receive his Mail Art correspondence
used to be in.

This is one among the many events to commemorate the national Mail Art Day in
Argentina, on December 5, the date the very first Mail Art exhibition happened in
our country.

Free themes, sizes and techniques. Eventually all sent artworks won't be returned,
therefore to become part of the archive of the Vigo Experimental Art Center in
La Plata city. Once the exhibition closes down, all participants will receive related
documentation.

ARTWORKS RECEPTION DEADLINE: until November 25, 2000
EXHIBITION'S OPENING: December 8, 2000

Please send your artworks to:

LA PLATA, CIUDAD DE VIGO
Secretaria de Cultura
Municipalidad de la Ciudad de La Plata
Pasaje Dardo Rocha, calle n° 50, (e) 6 y 7 - 2° piso
1900  La Plata, Pcia. de Buenos Aires
Argentina

This call is organized by VORTICE ARGENTINA, with the coordination of
Juan Carlos Romero and Fernando García Delgado

ANY PROMOTION OF THIS EVENT WILL BE DEEPLY APPRECIATED

..

FLUXLIST: 2001 mail art year of the virtual lands (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:04:10 +0200
From: tartarugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2001 mail art year of the virtual lands

Dear friends

Sorry for this intrusion but, as ambassador of the IMACOVL, I must to
inform you that the year 2001 will be the Mail Art Year of the Virtual
Lands. Please, make all the best to make this celebration as splendid as
it deserves.

Do you want more information?   Visit http://www.ibelgique.com/imacovl/

Greetings from

tARTarugo

apartado 822
36280 vigo
spain

http://www.geocities.com/tartarug





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Re: Fwd: Re: FLUXLIST: Lumpy Air, or Fluxus e-mail poems

[David Baptiste Chirot]

brian bit ye?

said it--

beer


"Jamais nul temps nous ne sommes assis;
 Puis ca, puis la, comme le vent varie,
 A son plaisir sans cesser nous charrie . . . "
 
dbc




On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Reed Altemus wrote:

> brine bit jee
> sed tit
> be ear
> 
> "maintenant est tout les temps"
> 
> RA
> 
> "John M. Bennett" wrote:
> 
> > keen put z
> > se t it
> > pe e ar
> >
> > "la region mas transparente"
> >
> >
> > John M. Bennett
> >
> >
> > At 06:45 AM 10/23/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >> spleen hut
> >> rest kit
> >> pear
> >>
> >> Fluxsister fun-atic
> >>
> >> --- Reed Altemus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Splee tu nah
> >> >
> >> > street ki
> >> > grape
> >> >
> >> > Ruud Janssen
> >> >
> >> > Flux Sisters wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > smore ball lob
> >> > > Thor me
> >> > >
> >> > > treat
> >> > > near
> >> > >
> >> > > Fluxsister YOyo
> >> > > --- David Baptiste Chirot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > some all blob earth
> >> > > > th'n whores peein'
> >> > > > sakes!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > re' ass tree
> >> > > >   K'n'G!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > re ast rican?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, John M. Bennett wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Digest Version of "small boy bakery":
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Ba ke
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > s mall b lob birth
> >> > > > > thin hor se p in
> >> > > > > st ate
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > (re est, st(r)ea k in g...
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > > > John M. Bennett
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >X-Authentication-Warning: scribble.com:
> >> > majordom
> >> > > > set sender to
> >> > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f
> >> > > > > >Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > > >X-PH: V4.4@orb3
> >> > > > > >From: Flux Sisters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > > > >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Lumpy Air, or Fluxus
> >> > > > e-mail poems
> >> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > > > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > > > >X-URL: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >small boy bakery
> >> > > > > >eye buzz
> >> > > > > >blob human birth ing
> >> > > > > >long funnel sewer
> >> > > > > >thin line third party
> >> > > > > >down breast down
> >> > > > > >chap-book horse
> >> > > > > >trash pin mind rest
> >> > > > > >empty state
> >> > > > > >penetrate nutshell
> >> > > > > >electrodolphin
> >> > > > > >streaking Zen love
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >(random connection of words from Fluxus
> >> > e-mails)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >Fluxsister Sundae
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >woohooo!!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >=
> >> > > > > >The Fluxsisters
> >> > > > > >Art that Imitates Life
> >> > > > > >Box-Upon-Wall
> >> > > > > >  Lakeport
> >> > > > > > 03247-6742
> >> > > > > > "Because art is cheaper than
> >> > > > therapy"
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >__
> >> > > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> >> > > > > >Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf!  It's
> >> > > > FREE.
> >> > > > > >http://im.yahoo.com/
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > =
> >> > > The Fluxsisters
> >> > >Art that Imitates Life
> >> > >Box-Upon-Wall
> >> > >  Lakeport
> >> > > 03247-6742
> >> > > "Because art is cheaper than therapy"
> >> > >
> >> > > __
> >> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> >> > > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf!  It's
> >> > FREE.
> >> > > http://im.yahoo.com/
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> =
> >> The Fluxsisters
> >>Art that Imitates Life
> >>Box-Upon-Wall
> >>  Lakeport
> >> 03247-6742
> >> "Because art is cheaper than therapy"
> >>
> >> __
> >> Do You Yahoo!?
> >> Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf!  It's FREE.
> >> http://im.yahoo.com/
> >
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: Day Book readings/Coallage Poetry

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Hi Heiko:

actually the quote you cite here is from Nathaniel Hawthorne's
AMERICAN NOTEBOOKS--

refers to the mechanical effect of enlargement produced by lenses
used for a diorama--

idea being to juxtapose the "ravings" (or in french, "Delires") of
Rimbaud's "Alchemy of the Word"--produced with and without drugs--with
effects produced by mechanical means--

for distortions--shifts of perspectves, rearrangements via size
and scope of visual scene/seen


(for example, now we have "virtual reality"--a kind of mechanical
simulation of hallucination!)

meanwhile very early morning here am seeing things such as
green words aappearing and moving in black spaces--(computer screen)--and
hearing voices
from mouths not there (radio)

hallucination as daily dose of "reality"!--

--dave baptiste


On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Heiko Recktenwald wrote:

> > thrust out his tongue.  THE HEAD BECOMING GIGANTIC, A SINGULAR EFFECT WAS
> > PRODUCED.  
> > 
> > Arthur Rimbaud, A SEASON IN HELL,  "Ravings II  Alchemy of the
> 
> Dope.
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: Day Book readings/Coallage Poetry

[David Baptiste Chirot]

this is found materials for collage poems will make, but is already
a collage--from daybook jottings from yesterday sat 21 oct 2000--

collage and montage simple facts of existence--seeing/hearing.
awareness at any given moment--

not linear left to right top to bottom arrangement at all--even
looking out window "before one" say--sudden juxtaposition of lie of life
(bus) cutting across field of tree and house--rearrangement by person
heaving into view--meanwhile sounds of motor engine being worked on,
someone shouting, church bells ringing for Mass, football game going one
from open window and signs on side of bus--person moving into view wearing
sweat shirts with markings, image--

juxtapositions continual as all in movement--one may "cut" it and
edit it simply by moving head slightly--alters "point of view" so so
to speak--let alone the sense of the volumes and directions of sounds--

and those alone but a bare few elements at that instant--one cd go
into quite some presentation of all else involved--tree, traffic light,
trash container with DRUGS ARE TRASH--

and what passing through mind at that moment and sensations of the
body as it stands or sits or moves--

a collage in continual rearrangement--

then attempting to walk (into" the field of vision--quite
startling effects if one continues cutting and pasting--making things
"different", improving the composition say--or 'mixing" the soundtrack--

one danger though have found is when have too swiftly cutting out
advancing truck which marred part of the arrangement, found oneself quite
literally walking in front of it--

vast intrusion of the "concrete" from out the picture plane!

though another good practice is say select street corner or any
old where--and squat down there and make arrangements direct with what
found there, on site--

use of site/sight/cite to make hieroglyph of the marking,
notation, of arrangement in that moment & place, of that moment & place

and later some puzzled passerby surprised to find collage of sand,
feather, pebble, bus ticket, cigarette butt & viewer's own shadow--
participant in the piece--

(and what indeed does this "sign" "signify"--?)

materials below already in simple arrangement, suggesting myriad
further ones--to do with found matrials abundantly presented herein--

from the usual suspects, as per usual:


I loved absurd pictures, fanlights, stage scenery, mountebanks'
backcloths, inn-signs, cheap colored prints; unfashionable literature,
church Latin, pornographic books badly spelt, grandmothers' novels, fairy
stories, little books for children, old operas, empty refrains, simple
rhythms . . . 



-

We left our horse in the shed, and, entering the little unpainted
bar-room, we heard a voice, in a strange, outlandish accent, exclaiming
"Diorama."  It was an old man, with a full gray-bearded countenance, and
Mr. Leach exclaimed, "Ah, here's the old Dutchman,"--though, by the way,
he is a German, and travels the country with this diorama in a wagon, and
had recently been at South Adams, and was now returning from Saratoga
Springs.  We looked through the glass orifice of his machine, while he
exhibited A SUCCESSION OF THE VERY WORST SCRATCHES AND DAUBINGS THAT CAN
BE IMAGINED, --WORN OUT, TOO, AND FULL OF CRACKS AND WRINKLES, DIMMED WITH
TOBACCO SMOKE, AND EVERY OTHER WISE DILAPIDATED.  THERE WERE NONE IN A
LATER FASHION THAN THIRTY YEARS SINCE, EXCEPT SOME FIGURES THAT HAD BEEN
CUT FROM TAILORS' SHOW-BILLS.  THERE WERE VIEWS OF CITIES AND EDIFICES IN
EUROPE, OF NAPOLEON'S BATTLES AND NELSON'S SEAFIGHTS, IN THE MIDST OF WHICH
WOULD BE SEEN A GIGANTIC, BROWN, HAIRY HAND (THE HAND OF DESTINY) POINTING
AT THE PRINCIPAL POINTS OF THE CONFLICT, WHILE THE OLD DUTCHMAN EXPLAINED
. . . 
 . . . When the last picture had been shown, he caused a country
boor, who stood gaping beside the machine, to put his head within it, and
thrust out his tongue.  THE HEAD BECOMING GIGANTIC, A SINGULAR EFFECT WAS
PRODUCED.  



I dreamed of crusades, voyages of discovery never reported,
unrecorded republics, suppressed religious wars, revolutions in manners,
movements of races and of continents: I BELIEVED IN ALL ENCHANTMENTS.


sections 1 and 3:  

Arthur Rimbaud, A SEASON IN HELL,  "Ravings II  Alchemy of the
Word"
(1873)
section 2 (middle):

Nathaniel Hawthorne, THE AMERICAN NOTEBOOKS

entry for Friday, August 31, 1838

Re: FLUXLIST: e-mail my body

[David Baptiste Chirot]

having tagged (graffitied) many a wall and paint myself
frequently (today red blue black face & hands & arms  with
hieroglyphs
of own invention called "chiroglyphs")
as
well  my clothes etc
& about anything else can get away with
of course 
i will
be happy to "tattoo you"!

dave baptiste chirot
2515 N. Oakland #106
Milwaukee, WI 53211
USA

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
onwo/ards! on body wo/ards!





On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Terrence Kosick wrote:

> Terrence writes;
> 
> totally interested!
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Terrence Kosick
> 103-980 West 22nd Ave
> Vancouver B.C.
> Canada V5Z-2A1
> 
> T.
> 
> 
> 
> "narvis & ...pez" wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> >
> > a local group of "fluxus artist"
> > will have an event against xenofobia
> >
> > i will do a performance called  "e-mail-art my body away"
> > this is: i will scann my naked body in 20 parts
> > & send to 20 people by e-mail to all over the world
> >
> > perhaps, someone of fluxlisters people
> > want to received a "piece of me" (an image, of course)
> > & return a copy with a tatoo (of any kind) over "my skin"
> > taking part in the performance in a remote way.
> >
> > that's it: if you received an image of one arm (by example)
> > you can add a "tatoo" to the image & send back
> > the same day (preferible) or later (is welcome),
> > the idea is to "reconstruct" the body with the pieces we get in return.
> >
> > later we will publish the experience in the museum web site.
> > & printed copies to remote participants by snail-mail
> >
> > the event will be in the museo of contemporary art of maracay
> > the next november 29-00
> >
> > who want to participate
> > send a message to me with your private e-mail
> > & your address.
> >
> > ...pez
> > ps: please, forward this mail to other people
> > you thing could be interested in participate.
> > thanks in advance
> 
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: INVITATION (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Baudelaire wrote presciently in his JOURAUX INTIMES of the sudden
drastic infuence of the telegraph of the stock exchanges of La Bourse--

seems he might appreciate this latest news from la France--


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 22:58:02 +0200
From: Agence Art Presse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: INVITATION

French + English   


INVITATION

Catalogue online : http://www/fredforest.org/Catalogue

VENTE AUX ENCHERES PUBLIQUES EN PREMIERE 
MONDIALE D'UN SITE INTERNET

START-UP SUR LES RANGS A L'OCCASION DE LA FIAC 2000 
!

PARIS DROUOT-MONTAIGNE, SAMEDI 28 OCTOBRE 2000, 
20 HEURES.

MONOCHROMES NUMERIQUES ON LINE

Direct : "Citoyenne-TV"
Catalogue online : http://www/fredforest.org/Catalogue


Apres avoir cree l evenement en 1996 avec la mise en vente d 
une image numerique en ligne " Parcelle-Reseau " à l'Hotel 
Drouot, Fred Forest recidive avec Maitre Pierre Cornette de Saint 
Cyr, commissaire-priseur, et mettra en vente en premiere mondiale 
un site Internet au grand complet ! Le site apparait sur catalogue 
de la vente en compagnie d un Magritte, d un Warhol et autres 
Basquiat, propose aux collectionneurs avec le statut d une 
oeuvre d'art à part entiere.

Des start-up vedettes du NASDAQ (notamment des societes 
americaines cherchant a s'implanter en Europe ) campent deja 
sur le terrain, comptant bien, comme la societe Nart en 1996, 
enlever les encheres ! Ce n'est pas tant l'art qui les motive, que le 
formidable vecteur de communication que constituerait en soi, 
pour leur image, la detention d une oeuvre "historique"
de ce type. Des noms les plus fantaisistes circulent deja sous le 
manteau, mais il ne s'agit la, sans doute, que de rumeurs 
incontrolables, voir d'intox, savamment cultivees par les 
promoteurs de l'operation.
Avec ou sans Bill Gates dans la salle, la lutte, a coup sur, 
s'annonce chaude !

Exposition de l'oeuvre, vendredi 27 octobre et samedi 28 le 
matin.
Drouot Montaigne : 15 avenue Montaigne 75008 Paris

Conférence de presse : le jeudi 26 octobre à 11 heures à l Atelier
BNP-PARIBAS, 5 avenue Kleber, 75016 PARIS

Pour les accreditations de presse :
Etude Maitre Pierre Cornette de Saint Cyr
44 avenue Kleber
75016 Paris
Tél : 33 (01) 47 27 11 24


Pour se desabonner de cette liste de diffusionm envoyer un email 
vide a [EMAIL PROTECTED] avec le mot 
"desabonnement" comme sujet.

Catalogue online : http://www/fredforest.org/Catalogue
PARIS
INVITATION

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE WORLD,  A PUBLIC 
AUCTION-SALE OF A INTERNET SITE

Taking account the role that you play in this branch of industry, 
we have the pleasure to  invite you at this historical event.

START-UP ON ROWS ON OCCASION OF THE FIAC 2000 !

PARIS DROUOT-MONTAIGNE, SATURDAY 28th 
OCTOBER2000, 8 P.M.

DIGITAL MONOCHROMICS ONLINE

Catalogue online : http://www/fredforest.org/Catalogue

Live : "Citoyenne-tv"

After having created the event in 1996 with the setting on sale of 
a digital image online " Parcelle-Réseau " at the Drouot Hotel, 
Fred Forest repeats with Maître Pierre Cornette de Saint Cyr, 
appraiser, and will put on sale, for the first time in the world, a 
complete Internet site !
The site mentioned on catalogue of the sale in company of 
Magritte, Warhol, Basquiat and others, is proposed to the 
collectors with the statute of a work of art in whole.

Start-up companies, stars of the NASDAQ (in particular for the 
American companies seeking to be established in Europe), camp 
already on the ground, hoping well, like in 1996 the Nart 
company, to win the biddings !
It is not so much the art which justifies to win them, that the 
formidable vector of communication which would constitute, for 
their image, the detention of a historical work of this type.
The most whimsical names circulate already under the coat, but 
undoubtedly it's only unverifiable rumours or intox, learnedly 
cultivated by the promoters of the operation. With or without Bill 
Gates in the room, undoubtedly the fight will be hot !

Exposure of the work : Friday 27th October and Saturday 28th in 
the morning.
Drouot Montaigne : 15 avenue Montaigne
75008 Paris
Press conference : Thursday 26th October 11 A.M.
at L'Atelier BNP-PARIBAS
5 avenue Kléber
75016 PARIS

Press accreditation :
Etude Maître Pierre Cornette de Saint Cyr
44 avenue Kleber
75016 Paris
Tel : 33 (01) 47 27 11 24


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Re: Fwd: Re: FLUXLIST: Lumpy Air, or Fluxus e-mail poems

[David Baptiste Chirot]

some all blob earth
th'n whores peein'
sakes!

re' ass tree 
K'n'G!

re ast rican?


On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, John M. Bennett wrote:




> Digest Version of "small boy bakery":
> 
> 
> Ba ke
> 
> s mall b lob birth
> thin hor se p in
> st ate
> 
> (re est, st(r)ea k in g...
> 
> 
> John M. Bennett
> 
> 
> 
> >X-Authentication-Warning: scribble.com: majordom set sender to 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f
> >Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
> >X-PH: V4.4@orb3
> >From: Flux Sisters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Lumpy Air, or Fluxus e-mail poems
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >X-URL: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST
> >
> >small boy bakery
> >eye buzz
> >blob human birth ing
> >long funnel sewer
> >thin line third party
> >down breast down
> >chap-book horse
> >trash pin mind rest
> >empty state
> >penetrate nutshell
> >electrodolphin
> >streaking Zen love
> >
> >(random connection of words from Fluxus e-mails)
> >
> >Fluxsister Sundae
> >
> >woohooo!!
> >
> >=
> >The Fluxsisters
> >Art that Imitates Life
> >Box-Upon-Wall
> >  Lakeport
> > 03247-6742
> > "Because art is cheaper than therapy"
> >
> >__
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf!  It's FREE.
> >http://im.yahoo.com/
> 

FLUXLIST: "Postcards for Vieques"URGENTE" (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/7037/ArteCorreo/ViequesExpo.html
 
A// ESPAÑOL
B// ENGLISH
 
A//
La Marina de Guerra junto a tropas del Ejercito, la Fuerza Aérea
de Estados Unidos  y fuerzas combinadas
de la OTAN están bombardeando Vieques en estos días.
Los ejercicios militares a gran escala comenzaron
el pasado 9 de octubre y se prolongarán hasta el 28 de octubre
de este año.
Ante este brutal atropello, un grupo de desobedientes civiles viequenses,
representativo de amplios
sectores de la sociedad, arriesgando su propia vida, ingresaron esta
madrugada a la zona de tiro con el fin
de obstaculizar las maniobras militares. Hasta el momento (11:50 am,
hora local) no han sido arrestados.
Hacemos un llamado URGENTE a la comunidad mundial para denunciar esta
grave situación. Pedimos a
los nacionales de los países envueltos en estas maniobras a
protestar por la participación de sus militares
en suelo viequense, específicamente a Canadá, Francia,
Dinamarca, Alemania y el Reino Unido. En
cualquier lugar del mundo vayan a las embajadas o consulados de estos
países y protesten con piquetes y
manifestaciones.
¡NO A LA INTERNACIONALIZACION DE LA MUERTE EN VIEQUES!
Elías Adasme
Desde San Juan de Puerto Rico.
PD: Por favor, difundan este mensaje a todos los medios de comunicación
posible. El pueblo viequense se
los agradecerá.
---

Convocatoria Acción Urgente Mail Art
  
"Postales por Vieques"
Desde 1940, la isla puertorriqueña de Vieques ha sido usada como
campo de tiro y
entrenamiento de tropas de la Marina de Guerra de Estados Unidos. Hasta
el día de hoy han
transcurrido 60 años de continuos bombardeos y prácticas
militares que han dejado como
secuela terrenos contaminados, una alta incidencia de cáncer
y un denigrante subdesarrollo en
todos los niveles entre la población viequense. Sí, aunque
le resulte dificil de creer, Vieques
está habitada y su población fué "reubicada" en
medio de los dos extremos de la Isla, áreas
donde la Marina practica con todo tipo de municiones: bombas de alto
calibre, napalm, agente
naranja (usado en Vietnam) y balas revestidas de uranio, además
de rentar los terrenos a otras
instituciones militares como el Pentágono y a ejércitos
de países latinoamericanos y europeos.
Desde Vieques salió la invasión a República Dominicana
en 1965, la invasión a Grenada y
Panamá en los ochenta, las tropas para el Golfo Pérsico
en 1991 y los aviones que
bombardearon Yugoeslavia en 1999 .
Pero el pueblo viequense y la gran mayoría de los puertorriqueños
han dicho ¡Basta Ya! En
abril de 1999, una bomba de la Marina mató al viequense David
Sanes y desde entonces la
lucha por sacar a la Marina de Vieques ha arreciado. Durante un año,
cientos de
"desobedientes civiles" incluyendo líderes políticos,
religiosos y comunitarios, en forma
pacífica invadieron los terrenos restringidos y retaron a las
autoridades estadounidenses,
exigiendo en su mensaje lo que por derecho natural y moral les corresponde:
¡Paz para
Vieques! El día 4 de mayo de 2000, el Gobierno de los Estados
Unidos en crasa violación a
los derechos humanos y civiles de todo ciudadano, procedió a
desalojar los campamentos,
arrestando a los desobedientes civiles, para permitirle a la Marina,
reanudar sus prácticas
bélicas.
Esta lucha no termina ahí. Múltiples estrategias se están
desarrollando. Como colectivo
internacional de Mail Art hacemos un llamado URGENTE a todos los artistas,
mail-artistas,
poetas visuales y a todo aquel que solidarice con esta causa, a participar
en un gran envío de
postales de arte dirigidas al Presidente de los Estados Unidos, para
hacerle sentir nuestra
indignación por el injusto atropello que sufren los habitantes
de Vieques y el pueblo
puertorriqueño en general. Recuerde utilizar la consigna ¡PAZ
PARA VIEQUES!
AU MA + Gom@ es una organización independiente, horizontal y
no jerárquica de artistas
especializados en el Mail Art que desde varios países en dos
continentes, trabaja con el
objetivo de la defensa de los Derechos Humanos y la solución
de problemas sociales o
ecológicos. Uno de sus miembros, Elías Adasme, vive en
Puerto Rico.
Las postales pueden ser enviadas por correo regular a
President of the United States
White House - 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington D.C. 20500
o por vía E-Mail a [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Haga llegar una copia a
Elías Adasme
Calle Georgetown 1009,
Urb. University Gardens
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00927-4822.
O envíe una copia electrónica al E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ya que muy pronto exhibiremos estas obras en la red Internet.
Por favor Copie y Difunda / Please, copy and pass
--
B//
 
Urgent Action Mail Art

FLUXLIST: [Y4M] No Police Brutality Day (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

SOmething to keep in mind for making a piece for this day coming
up--

dbc

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:34:31 -0400
From: Artists Network of Refuse & Resist! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Artists Network/LA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Y4M] No Police Brutality Day

This year's National Day of Protest to Stop Police Brutality and the
Criminalization of a Generation is 
Sunday, October 22nd.

What can artists do to add their voices to this powerful outpouring of
the people?

We encourage the artists in earshot of our email list to find a way to
manifest through their art before and on October 22.

If you are performing - create a piece and/or dedicate your set to
October 22nd.

If you are a visual artist - create something that can go up before the
day or be carried at the march.

If you have an email list - send out information about the Day, along
with your own expression of resistance…a poem, lyrics, a picture… Check
out Rage Against the Machine’s website (www.ratm.com)

If you want to march on October 22, along with people in dozens of
cities across the U.S…
If you want to meet the courageous families who have lost loved ones to
the police and will speak out on that day about the lives of those who
can no longer speak… 

Assemble at 1:00 p.m.at Union Square
In New York City on 
Sunday, October 22nd 
There will be a march to Time Square and a rally there at 3:00pm
Wear Black

For information about what’s happening in other cities on October 22,
check out the October 22nd web site: www.unstoppable.com/22
  
The Artist Network of Refuse & Resist!  212-431-3681


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Re: FLUXLIST: Mr T. versus Everything

[David Baptiste Chirot]

I always wondered if Mr T didn't get that line "I Pity the
Fool"--from the famous song of that name--

the phrase had become after it came out a popular expression

The most famous version is by Bobby "Blue" Bland--

it's a great song and was huge hit--(in r and b market mainly)

--dave baptiste

Re: FLUXLIST: FluxGrumps

[David Baptiste Chirot]

actually reed i grew up in vermont then lived 12 years in boston

we often got told we were too physical--

no doubt being french-indian!

kiss and hug a lot

a friend in nyc tels me the kissing on both cheeks now a fad
there--some people do it the two time style and some the three--

but then being new englanders reed-- what goes on
in nyc is of little interest at all!

too much going on close to home

to be sure melissa is in new hampshire--so she may also be
untypical new englander of the old school!

in milwaukee people are very warm--and most fads never make it
here--they die on the way!

kind of nice--that way people just going on looking whatever way
and acting what ever way they choose--

when i first moved here was very suspicious as people so
friendly--being from new england was always wondering--what's the angle?

hard to believe there really isn't one (for most part--watch out
for the same shadier business types one finds world over who are always
truly working that angle--)--(not to mention ones you don't know about yet
and then which hit you where it hurts--in pocketbook and elsewhere if they
feel need to do so!)
dbc

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Reed Altemus wrote:

> Melissa
> Sorry, I was having a bad day. Or maybe I was jealous?
> Who can say?
> 
> Kissing is fun but I am from New England and have one
> of those demeanors, sometimes being warm is hard when
> the weather is always so damn cold- duly noted though-
> the same remark has been made in the past of me.
> 
> I actually prefer a woman who excels at spooning- goes
> with the geographic location.
> 
> Reed
> 
> 
> Melissa McCarthy wrote:
> 
> > Word Play for Reed Altemus
> >
> > Grumply flux.
> > Fluxly grump.
> > Kissy-face pooh-pooh!
> > Grumpy fluxy
> > Fluxy grumpy.
> > Pooh-pooh kissy-face!
> > Flumpy gruxus.
> > Lumpy gravy makes me grumpy,
> > Gives me flux.
> >
> > Serious?
> > Delerious!
> > Be of good cheerious!
> > Have no fearious!
> >
> > Kiss-kiss, both cheeks,
> > (left and right, not top and bottom, you!)
> > European style.
> >
> > Melissa
> >
> >   Melissa McCarthy
> >   Hours: whimsical or by appointment
> >   >>>Adult, maybe; grown-up, never!<<<
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > _
> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
> >
> > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at
> > http://profiles.msn.com.
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

dear ak:

my gawd! many THANKS for your info!
does indeed turn out BY CHANCE (?--"meant to be")--
do have huge lovely metal can of acetone here 
still "bran-nu" as never opened
can't recall why have it
may be like abt 85% or so of my work materials "found"
"while in the line of duty"--i.e. walking abt
or at a sale of art supplies figured some day of use
--and NOW IS!

have found though for my purposes--ie. love of the corroded,
cracked, fragmented, "if it's broke don't fix it"--
(much like myself any more)
that much like effects though "poor" (arte povera/art brut?)
of the old method--makes interesting forms/traces  of words/worlds


so--shall "sally forth" (always wondered who she is)
and try acetone!
funny you look  at it and is: ace tone

sounds like a Fifties rock and roll singer

but say it & is "ass-ah-tone"

"adventures with language" 

as old school books wd call it!

again many many thanks!

yet another thing of use in the world!

(or my corner of it--)

--dave baptiste


On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, ann klefstad wrote:

> Can use acetone to do the transfers from xeroxes--so xerox images from
> newspaper etc and then transfer w/ acetone, a relatively benign solvent (much
> less deadly than some others). Also, since the advent of soy inks, the old
> solvent-transfer from newspaper thing doesn't work as well. This circumvents
> that.
> 
> AK
> 
> David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> 
> > sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you
> > live
> >
> > make a "traffic report"
> >
> > sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best,
> > or change positions)--again, for some time--
> >
> > make "weather report
> >
> > note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but
> > also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed
> >
> > dave baptiste chirot
> >
> > PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of
> > presentation of the timepiece i had made--
> >
> > it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web--
> >
> > they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox
> > (ones i have tired, not these ones)
> >
> > you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash
> > cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want
> > to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and
> > things presented there--onto another sheet of paper
> >
> > this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i
> > first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an
> > interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these
> > you use lighter fluid to soak the paper--
> >
> > just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot
> > so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light
> > up--!
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you
live

make a "traffic report"

sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best,
or change positions)--again, for some time--

make "weather report


note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but
also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed

dave baptiste chirot

PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of
presentation of the timepiece i had made--

it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web--

they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox
(ones i have tired, not these ones)

you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash
cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want
to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and
things presented there--onto another sheet of paper

this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i
first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an
interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these
you use lighter fluid to soak the paper--

just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot
so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light
up--!

FLUXLIST: CONVOCATORIA MA GENOCIDIO MAPUCHE (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:42:56 +0200
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: *boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CONVOCATORIA MA GENOCIDIO MAPUCHE

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[anilina] MailArt Convo: Stop Genocidio Mapuche
  Fecha:
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Amigos: Les hago llegar una nueva convocatoria de
mailart que, como podrán ver en el cuerpo del mail,
requiere de la solidaridad inmediata de todos nosotros.
Como siempre confío en vuestra respuesta.

Un fuerte abrazo,

Txalo Toloza-Fernández
Autoediciones AnilinA & RED POSTAL

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Español///

Mapuche: Gente de la Tierra

El pueblo mapuche es uno de los pueblos indígenas
originarios de SurAmérica, ubicado básicamente en el
sur de Chile y Argentina.

Desde la colonización española (1536) empieza su
historia de opresión, aculturación y usurpación de
territorios. En la actualidad representan el 10% del
total de habitantes de Chile (aprox. 1.500.000 hab.).
En Argentina esta proporción es mucho menor.

El gobierno chileno, en el marco de la globalización
económica que prioriza la ley del dinero y beneficios
por encima de todo, sigue destruyendo las relaciones
de l@s mapuche con la tierra.

En estos momentos, la empresa transnacional española
ENDESA, lleva a cabo un megaproyecto hidroeléctrico en
el río Bio Bio, que provocará la destrucción de la
cultura mapuche, inundando las tierras, casas,
cementerios y bosques de un centenar de familias de
las comunidades indígenas.

Desde el colectivo Marrichiweu y AutoEdiciones AnilinA
denunciamos esta injusticia con el pueblo Mapuche-
Pehuenche del Alto BioBio, y responsabilizamos el
gobierno chileno y a Martín Villa, presidente de
Endesa España como causantes directos de esta agresión.

Llamamos a tod@s l@s artistas, estudiantes,
colectivos, organizaciones y personas que se sientan
motivad@s para expresarse en contra de la violencia
del neoliberalismo que extermina al pueblo mapuche.

Tema: ¡Stop Endesa, Stop Genocidio Mapuche!
Tamaño: Din A4 (21 x 29,7 cms)
No selección / No devolución / Documentación a todos
Exposición por medio de página web y en salas de
España y Chile
Fecha Límite: 30 de Marzo de 2001

Envíos a:Stop Genocidio Mapuche  /  AutoEdiciones
AnilinA
c/Bóbiles, 74 Ático 1ª
08905 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat
Barcelona / España

Contacto:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Más información convocatoria y pueblo Mapuche:
http://anilina.virtualave.net/marrichiweu

Copia y pasa

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Mapuche: Gente de la Tierra

Mapuche are one of the indigenous original groups in
South America. They are mainly located in South Chile
and Argentina.
>From the Spanish Colonisation (1536), there begins
their story about oppression, acculturation and lands
usurpation. At the moment, they represent 10% of the
population in Chile (aprox. 1.500.000 Hab.). In
Argentina, this number is much lesser.

The Chile government, in the times of economical
globalisation that gives priority to money and profits
above all, goes on destroying the natural links
between mapuche people and the earth.

En these moments, the Spanish transnational enterprise
ENDESA is carrying out a hydroelectric megaproject in
Bio Bio River. It will cause the mapuche culture
destruction and it will cover with water all lands,
woods, cemeteries and houses where live a hundred of
families.

>From our association, Marrichiweu Group, and
AutoEdiciones AnilinA we denounce this unfair
situation in Mapuche-Pehuenche lands from the Alto Bio
Bio, and we want to make the Chile government and
Martín Villa (who is the president of Endesa España)
responsible. They both are the direct casuists of this
aggression.

We call to all artists, students, organizations,
collectives and people around the world that feel they
want to express their repugnance on the violence of
the neoliberalism that extermines mapuche.

Theme: ¡Stop Endesa, Stop   Mapuche Genocide!
Size: Din A4 (21 x 29,7 cms)
No selection / No devolution / Documentación for all
Exhibition on website and room galleries in Spain and
Chili
Dead Line: March, 30,   2001

Send to:Stop Genocidio Mapuche  /  AutoEdiciones
AnilinA
c/ Bóbiles, 74 Ático 1ª
08905 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat
Barcelona - España

Contact:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
More info convo & Mapuches people:
http://anilina.virtualave.net/marrichiweu.htm

Copy & pass

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Mapuche: Gent de la Terra

El poble mapuche és un dels pobles indígenes
originaris de SudAmèrica, ubicat bàsicament al sud de
Xile i Argentina.
Des de la colonització espanyola (1536) comença la
seva història d'opressió, aculturació i usurpació de
territoris. En l'actualitat representen el 10% del
total d'habitants de Xile (aprox. 1.500.000 hab.). A
Argentina aquesta proporció és molt menor.

El govern xilè, en el marc de la g

Re: FLUXLIST: performance score

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Josh:  an exellent idea!
as you know, often books with "errata" made become collectors'
items (same with records--the pl vereity--as worked in record store svene
years and learned all kinds of obscyre lore along these lines--)

i once placed pacards in large boodstor by the fiction saying: ALL
WORKS HERE ALL FALSE AND WILL SHORTLY BE WITHDRAWN

this caused no end of confusion in the bookstore!

rmber when Grantigans's TROUT FISHING IN AMERICA  used to be
placed in nature/ports sections?

and so many of the works of the great Paul Metalf, beng
unclassifiable
for many--wound up in the oddest places also--

when i fisrt got bitten by te bug for the obscue ad ut of the
way--boks i knew must exist yet knew not where to find except by chance or
word of moth of wonderful guidebooks like Henry Miller's THE BOOKS IN MY
LIFE--used to imagine a section for the "unwonted/unwanted" boks i
sought--srt of mass grouping of errata that had some how made it past
unwitting publishers, sleeping cnsors and the so called critics--

the good part is that pehrpas this spurs one on to create such
wrks of one's own

"errata" or the "erratic" (put by mistake in with the "eoricat"
section!)

i dream of books made of nothing but misquotes, maplapropsism,
mangled cliches, errata,the most seemingly b alnd juxtaposd with the
horrific--in short, a kind of National Enquirer piece of "illiterature"!

i think we shd begin eah in ur ways a mapaing for the dessimantion
of errata--

by the introduction of such subtle shifts, on a mass and
surreptious scale--many an odd chamnge may begin to occur in the reception
of many a "serious" work . . . . 

--dave baptsite 

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Josh Ronsen wrote:

> ERRATA SCORE
> 
> Print spurious Errata notices and place them in books in a bookstore or library.
> 
> 
> -Josh Ronsen
> http://www.nd.org/jronsen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> Before you buy.
> 

FLUXLIST: Prosklhsh Ellhnikhs NET ART gia to Festival MEDI@TERRA/ATH/noemv/00 (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:16:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Baptiste Chirot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Prosklhsh Ellhnikhs NET ART gia to Festival MEDI@TERRA/ATH/noemv/00 (fwd)






-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:16:04 +0300
From: Dimos Dimitriou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Prosklhsh Ellhnikhs NET ART gia to Festival MEDI@TERRA/ATH/noemv/00


Prosklhsh gia symmetoxh me erga vasismena sto diktuo, sto die8nes Festival
MEDI@TERRA <http://www.fournos-culture.gr/festival/2000/medi2ken.html>. To
festival ginetai sthn A8hna 3-9 Noemvriou tou 2000.

Endiaferomaste idiaiterws gia osous 8eloun na parousiasoun kallitexnika
erga, meletes, idees pou einai vasismena sto diadiktuo.



To ethsio Die8nes Festibal kai Symposio Medi@terra poy organwnetai sthn
A8hna, einai mia prwtoboylia me skopo thn anapty3h toy chfiakoy politismoy,
kyriws sthn perioxh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs kai ths Mesogeioy. Kyrios
stoxos einai h anapty3h mias dia-politismikhs epikoinwnias kai synergasias
meta3y twn kratwn oson afora sta synexws e3elissomeno tomea twn newn meswn,
ka8ws kai h dhmioyrgia koinwn protasewn kai enos hlektronikoy diktyoy gia
thn yposthri3h twn poikilwn politistikwn dynatothtwn poy parexei h chfiakh
texnologia.

http://www.fournos-culture.gr/festival/2000/medi2ken.html




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FLUXLIST: CONVOCATORIA MA GENOCIDIO MAPUCHE (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:42:56 +0200
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: *boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CONVOCATORIA MA GENOCIDIO MAPUCHE

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[anilina] MailArt Convo: Stop Genocidio Mapuche
  Fecha:
Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:12:50 -1300
De:
"sobaculcha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Amigos: Les hago llegar una nueva convocatoria de
mailart que, como podrán ver en el cuerpo del mail,
requiere de la solidaridad inmediata de todos nosotros.
Como siempre confío en vuestra respuesta.

Un fuerte abrazo,

Txalo Toloza-Fernández
Autoediciones AnilinA & RED POSTAL

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Español///

Mapuche: Gente de la Tierra

El pueblo mapuche es uno de los pueblos indígenas
originarios de SurAmérica, ubicado básicamente en el
sur de Chile y Argentina.

Desde la colonización española (1536) empieza su
historia de opresión, aculturación y usurpación de
territorios. En la actualidad representan el 10% del
total de habitantes de Chile (aprox. 1.500.000 hab.).
En Argentina esta proporción es mucho menor.

El gobierno chileno, en el marco de la globalización
económica que prioriza la ley del dinero y beneficios
por encima de todo, sigue destruyendo las relaciones
de l@s mapuche con la tierra.

En estos momentos, la empresa transnacional española
ENDESA, lleva a cabo un megaproyecto hidroeléctrico en
el río Bio Bio, que provocará la destrucción de la
cultura mapuche, inundando las tierras, casas,
cementerios y bosques de un centenar de familias de
las comunidades indígenas.

Desde el colectivo Marrichiweu y AutoEdiciones AnilinA
denunciamos esta injusticia con el pueblo Mapuche-
Pehuenche del Alto BioBio, y responsabilizamos el
gobierno chileno y a Martín Villa, presidente de
Endesa España como causantes directos de esta agresión.

Llamamos a tod@s l@s artistas, estudiantes,
colectivos, organizaciones y personas que se sientan
motivad@s para expresarse en contra de la violencia
del neoliberalismo que extermina al pueblo mapuche.

Tema: ¡Stop Endesa, Stop Genocidio Mapuche!
Tamaño: Din A4 (21 x 29,7 cms)
No selección / No devolución / Documentación a todos
Exposición por medio de página web y en salas de
España y Chile
Fecha Límite: 30 de Marzo de 2001

Envíos a:Stop Genocidio Mapuche  /  AutoEdiciones
AnilinA
c/Bóbiles, 74 Ático 1ª
08905 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat
Barcelona / España

Contacto:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Más información convocatoria y pueblo Mapuche:
http://anilina.virtualave.net/marrichiweu

Copia y pasa

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Mapuche: Gente de la Tierra

Mapuche are one of the indigenous original groups in
South America. They are mainly located in South Chile
and Argentina.
>From the Spanish Colonisation (1536), there begins
their story about oppression, acculturation and lands
usurpation. At the moment, they represent 10% of the
population in Chile (aprox. 1.500.000 Hab.). In
Argentina, this number is much lesser.

The Chile government, in the times of economical
globalisation that gives priority to money and profits
above all, goes on destroying the natural links
between mapuche people and the earth.

En these moments, the Spanish transnational enterprise
ENDESA is carrying out a hydroelectric megaproject in
Bio Bio River. It will cause the mapuche culture
destruction and it will cover with water all lands,
woods, cemeteries and houses where live a hundred of
families.

>From our association, Marrichiweu Group, and
AutoEdiciones AnilinA we denounce this unfair
situation in Mapuche-Pehuenche lands from the Alto Bio
Bio, and we want to make the Chile government and
Martín Villa (who is the president of Endesa España)
responsible. They both are the direct casuists of this
aggression.

We call to all artists, students, organizations,
collectives and people around the world that feel they
want to express their repugnance on the violence of
the neoliberalism that extermines mapuche.

Theme: ¡Stop Endesa, Stop   Mapuche Genocide!
Size: Din A4 (21 x 29,7 cms)
No selection / No devolution / Documentación for all
Exhibition on website and room galleries in Spain and
Chili
Dead Line: March, 30,   2001

Send to:Stop Genocidio Mapuche  /  AutoEdiciones
AnilinA
c/ Bóbiles, 74 Ático 1ª
08905 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat
Barcelona - España

Contact:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
More info convo & Mapuches people:
http://anilina.virtualave.net/marrichiweu.htm

Copy & pass

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Català//

Mapuche: Gent de la Terra

El poble mapuche és un dels pobles indígenes
originaris de SudAmèrica, ubicat bàsicament al sud de
Xile i Argentina.
Des de la colonització espanyola (1536) comença la
seva història d'opressió, aculturació i usurpació de
territoris. En l'actualitat representen el 10% del
total d'habitants de Xile (aprox. 1.500.000 hab.). A
Argentina aquesta proporció és molt menor.

El govern xilè, en el marc de la glo

FLUXLIST: BLACKBIRD 2/CELAN/VISUAL POETRY AVAILABLE (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

In light of the recent discussions of visual poetry amd mail art 
and other projects on this list,
and the current availibility of many excellent new anthologies--
made note of--

I'd like to take the occaision to repost this announcement--
having originally sent it basically during the holidays
surrounding July 4th in the midst of distractions of various
fireworks and assorted other distractions

I should  also note that  BLACKBIRD  3 to appear next year is open
to submissions

please direct enquiries to the editor David Stone, at the address
below
I would most highly  recommend BLACKBIRD for learning more of the
activites and works of international visual poetry--and, if you
are
serious about contributing, or learning of visual and
other poetries, arts--ordering a copy-- you won't regret it!

> Copies of BLACKBIRD 2 are still available.
>
> BLACKBIRD ia an international anthology of Art, Poetry, Prose,
Visual Poetry and Mail art
> 
begun in 1998 by Editor David Stone.
>
> The anthology is inspired by a poem by Paul Celan:
>
>
> ANREDSAM
>
> war die ein-
>
> fluglig schwebende Amsel,
>
> uber der Brandmauer, hinter
>
> Paris, droben,
>
> im
>
> Gedicht
>
>
>
>
> As if speaking
>
> the one-
>
> winged blackbird hovered,
>
> over the firewall, behind
>
> Paris, above,
>
> in the
>
> poem.
>
> (translation David Stone)
>
>
> BLACKBIRD 2 presents works by 36 artists/poets from 12 countries.
>
> Babenko, Basso, Beining, Bertrand, Blankenburg, Breuer,
> Bulatov, Burrus, Chirot, Damman, Dencker, Fierens, Gilder,
> Hansen, Hauptman, Inman, Keeney, Klassen, Knapp, Lagerwerf,
> Langham, Luigino, Maggi, Masnata, Mazzoni, Nordo, McKindles,
> Perez-Cares, Reichert, Sherarts, Vieira, Sourdin, Stone, Lopes
> Torres, Vermeulen, Van Sebroeck
>
>
> It is available from:
>
> David Stone
> The Carolina
> 112 W. University Pkwy. #1c
> Baltimore, MD  21210  USA
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The cost is $15.00 US, plus $3.00 US for shipping and handling.
>
> BLACKBIRD 2 is published by Merle Publications, Baltimore,
> Maryland: 2000.
>
again, i most highly recommend this superb collection/project

--dave baptiste chirot
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Re: FLUXLIST: What is the Millennial Workbook?

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Dear friend Eryk:

thanks so much for the elucidation

i will go straight to the Bible and have my life irrevocably
changed and be baptised anew in the waters of oblivion

seriously though--i have many many old scores o send yr way (as
opposed t "old scores to settle"!--gawd forbid we start getting out old
hatchets that shd have long ago been buried let alone shot guns and the
like, a real feud of the old fashioned variety!)

so will get them in the mail s i like so much yr idea of the above
all simplicity and clarity

away with all the high falatun' ultratechnological special effects
blowhardedness of so much of what passes as "spectacle" any more!

esp when the true pyrotechnics are provided for us free of
charge--though  laden with the charge of electricty--in thunderstorm,
volcanos, earthquakes, tornados--you name it--avalanches, flash floods--

as wellas outbreaks of deiseases, riots, wars, reigious
revivals--you name it

we usre do live among a busy world of billions of
creatures--humand and nn human--not to metniton spirits and etc--and the
wonderful ways of old mther nature!

never a dull moment!

well i will get these scores off to you--

though i do find verywhere nottations of the most marvelous
sort--cracks in walls and sidewlaks, the patnas of dust and
rust--arrangeents of rubbihs, the palimptsests of layerngs of posters on
telephone poles, tire marks and animal tracks--the caligraphies of tree
branche agsint the sky or shadowed on walls--the relfectins of windows
moving with the shifts of light--

notations everywhere, singing and signing and ignalling., calling
out--urging us to dance or be in call and response!

onwo/ards!
dave baptiste

ps please make sure i have yr address crrect eryck--i believe is
in nh?  (Live Free or Die)

Re: FLUXLIST: TIMEPIECE Project

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Myself and some russian art student frends always haunt the trash
sites in neighborhood as many art and architecture students throw ouyt otf
good stuff--also at end o the ter many stdets as you mentioned, give
up--and so leave behnd in their lockers and laying abt al manner of
materias

also rummage around constryuction sites--you'll find n end of good
materials!

some of thw rokesr in my area now know me and save things for
me--all kinds of great stuff--

aso check out art supplies etc stores on trash night for when they
throw out things used for smaples--papers, pens, etc etc markers and so
on--discontinued lines

depending on the city and the shool you can really feast along
with the flies on what is thrown out

yad sales often afford good materials of all srots

when i was in advanced placment in fremch for two years
sponsored by the french gov't--w had to memorize thousands of lside in the
manner you mention

name, date, painter, school to which it belong, influences it
showed as well as those it engendered etc

evrything from truly wild dada works to the most boring of the
accepted works of the various nineteenth century bourgeous salon painters

that was toughest exam i had ever had to tke--lasted two days--i
was put in the french native language speaker section--as many in new
hampshire, where i ws bussed to school as our village in vermont was too
small for anything past sixth grade--there are many people in northern nh
who work in the sawmills and the forests--lumberjacks and carpeneters like
many of my relatives for generations--who speak only french despite being
citizens of the usa

the exams were given by jesuits in a Concrod nm--the capital--we
were bussed down or driven by our teachers--exams were in spoke, written,
writing essays on spot, grammar, history, art identification, etc etc etc

man those Jesuits were a tough lot!

i did win two years running firt place and plaques and books from
french gov't--which alone helped me get nto college--

(i was also living a lot in frnace in those days which allowed me
to be able to speak french so well--now i am pretty rusty though still
read it everyday so as not to forget outright--)

i think though that beig an artist arady you are going to have a
garand old time as i think you are already regarding the art school
experience as a kind of art process/project of your own its own right--and
so will turn all to your own inimitable advantage!

much appreciate your news from the front!

onwo/ards!

dave baptiste

Re: FLUXLIST: EventScore for Millennial Workbook

[David Baptiste Chirot]

  

I am still at loss as to what the workbook is and wd like to
contribue--forgive my being a bit behind re it as so much has been
ahppening here at the old shack--

what i read all sounds good to me!


i apologize a recent post was so hacked and hewed and distorted i
sent before doing a spell checking in my haste

as always i deeply appreciate it that this list is always aking
projects--not just talking abt the things itsel etc but making things--in
spirit of community

it's always a source of geat h joy and stimulation of thought
energy and gathering as ever of materials from hither and yon

though we do not meet face to face in a sense we do meet in the
making of the works

meeting hand to hand

as van gogh used t sign his letters:

with a handshake in thought

dbc

Re: FLUXLIST: ERYKALLENEDITION

[David Baptiste Chirot]

please whatever the project is--have lost track in the welter of
posts--please count me & send me the details so can get right to work

as "idle hands do the devil's work" and wd prefer doing fluxlist
work to that of old Lucifer!
(who'd demand far more than a pound of flesh--and got to hang on
to
what i got left!)

dave baptiste

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Fluxus Workbook: Millenial Edition #1

[David Baptiste Chirot]

It often helps if yu speak a foreign language--i have found my way
into all sorts of event simply by feigning ignornace of english and
speking solely in french--my borhter used to do his ith me--speaking in
Italian--it often worked our way into free food, tickets, backstage passes
and the like

one of the most fun jobs i had was back in 1969--i worked for a
while as a translator in a high class social club/whorehouse in Paris
frquented by american businessmen--due to a wil west decor many of the
clients were Texans--all i had to do was play the diplomat and make sur
certain formalities of introduction etc were made, gradually working the
tone of the conversation from the formal to th informal--and letting each
side know what the other wnated--from simple companionship to various
forms of sexual activity

s well, i coudl pretend to each prty to be giving them the inside
scoop--often things i made up! to add to the confusion and fun

the madame knew i did ths and appreciated it, saying she had an
artist on her hands

my pay consisted of good food, gcigarettes, somme wads f rancs and
passes to various shows

th grils of course were off li
mits as that wd make me prone to take sides, to prefer certain ones--

i got to know all kinds of inside gossip and so on

i was only sixteen but looked bigger and acted older--fortunately
at the time my french was fluent--

occaisioanlly the police wd come by in which case i wd vanish into
a special hiding place--as had been arrested a nuber of times for various 
suspicious things--mainy as i was too fluent in frnech--they thought my
passpoert was faked--

 worked there at a month and then oved on to other things--

it was fun dreaming up for the business men who and what exactly
i was--i found the best cover was to say i was a writr in p[aris ganing
experieces for a future book--

this wd be answered with by a wink and nod and invit t a drink
etc--i refused as was not goom
d idea to drink on the job--instead wd suggest they drink with one of the
girls who cd manage so
me english--
 als provided basic pidgin english and french lessons for the clents and
workers

i enjpoyed vastly the various protocols whch had to be presrved,
the tylized dance of the performance, all watched over by the madame via a
system of compelly p[ostioned mirrors so no cornr was out of view

there were also very qyiet large men psotioned here and there,
inconspiciously, who c be called upon in case of trouble

but they were not needed--all was kept very much in the lines of
decroum

a very nice, formal theater

evryone acted with great professionalism and evn fom time to time
a genuine warmth

i got to wear a nice mock western type suit as well

i got pick a monkier in keeping with the decor and ambence so
called my slef "Johnny Guktar" after th great baoque western with joan
crawford and mercedes mccambridge, directed by Nicholas Ray--a fillm much
lovd in frnace at the time

hen people compaind that i did not play the guitar, i would choose
some other name--

i enjoyed very much the whole play acting set up and all the rules
which had to be carefully preserved--


later when i got into trouble for heanding out Breton Liberatio
front litearture and being photographed with members of that
oranization--i just eeded somehing to do of a sunday afteroon and the
bretons asked if i was part breton, which i am--i was in pretty hot water
with the CRS security police and getting beaten up--i gave as name of a
friend the madame and she appeared and, being knwn to the olice, helped
secure my release--with an exchange of bills and a few winks at me

good thing you no longer work for me dera friend she said--last
thing we need is politics!

but a friend is a friend-and you can't help yourself, you just
wanted to help out--after all, you handed out lfyrs for us as well

that was last i saw of her

the whole time i regarded it as a wonderful opportunity to take
part in a performance

i am sure there are many such opportunities in our everyday lives,
in which we can act out different rols and so learn various subcultural
languages, gestures, ways of thinking, atttiudes and open our eyes and
ears and bodies for materials for art

--onwo/ards!

dave baptiste

Re: FLUXLIST: TIMEPIECE Project

[David Baptiste Chirot]

Dear Devon--and Pk:  many thanks--i believe Pk deserves so much of the credit
for superb job both in having the idea and rvn more f presentation! am quite
stunned by it

devon i have meant to write to you for eons i did recieve yr letter
and projects and urging to  "coming back at ya" via mail--i had for nearly
a month
before  winding up in emergency room a very serious sinus infection which
kind of limited anything i did to the minimum for a day just te know i had
done something, hence the long lamented reply that they are delightfully
here
(due to many preivous near death experiencs with hospitals am
always
terrified that if i go in wil never get out aive!  so idiotically tempt
fate by staying away long as possible--figuring bettter just to croack ,be
lt
among the trees or some place outdoors or in my shack--)
(recall first time in hospital with borken back begging the priest
to given me medal with words to effect to allow me to die beside side of
road or
whether--much as Catholics used to wear those medallions saying "in case
of
emergenices notify a roman catholic priest--of course they don't condone
suicide so wdn't go along with this!)

i hope all goes well in school--something abt the Fall and school
always a season of great excitement and promise!  all those new books and
people to meet!

never having been to art school wd be glad to learn of what all goes
on there--do they provide good access to lot of free materials?  any good
exchanges with students and teachers'  good way to hone one's ideas is via
such
contacts--

just remember that for an artist/poet all is grist for the mill! we
are all thieves and cannibals of many  sorts--and so always find something
of
use--whether going along with and learning some basic and useful things or
rebelling agassnt its useless meaning aspects as it tries out
understanding our own
such responses, and we are better able to articulate and examine our
responses,
ideas, etc

not to mention you have the fluxlist and other loons to kept in
touch with--so some good stories to tell!

onwo/ards with the projects and work!

all best

dave baptiste

Re: FLUXLIST: TIMEPIECE Project

[David Baptiste Chirot]

a thousand thousand thanks for the brilliant presentation!

i think those whose dedicated work went into putting these up
should
be listed as collaborators on the works as they look "better than the
original"!

thank you also to Pk for the briiant idea for the project as
learned a lot doing it--


i much appreciate the group/collective work of many of the
projects on this list

and as well the hard work and dedication of those involved in
making the production os such high qulity of presentation!

is a joy and honor to be participant--

dave baptiste

On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Patricia wrote:

> To All,
> 
> Posts of the Timepiece Project will be posted from time to
> timenot in any particular order, but put forth by chance.
> 
> dave baptiste chirot
> 
> http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/timepiece/dbc/
> 
> Do give this some time, it's well worth it.
> 
> Best,
> PK
> 
> P.S.  Thank you, thank you Allen Bukoff for transferring this
> from the Yahoo site I originally set up over to the fluxus site,
> so that we don't have to suffer those pop up boxes.
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: [Fwd: Convocatoria comprimida] (fwd)

[David Baptiste Chirot]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:14:06 +0200
From: boek861 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: *Elias Adasme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: Convocatoria comprimida]












Convocatoria de Mail 
Art
 
Organiza: 
Amnistía Internacional Sección Puerto Rico y AU+MA (Acción Urgente Mail 
Art).
Dimensiones de las obras: 11 y 3/4" x 8 y 1/4" (29.7 cm. x 20.7 
cm.).
Fecha límite recepción de obras: 14 de noviembre de 2000.
NO censura. Documentación a todos los participantes. Enviar 
a:
Amnistía Internacional / AU+MA
1009 Georgetown
Urb. University Gardens
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00927-4822
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
POR FAVOR, COPIA Y DIFUNDE
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Mail Art 
Call
"For a Millennium of Life: NO to the 
Death Penalty"
 
Organizer: Amnesty International, Puerto Rico Section and AU+MA 
(Acción Urgente mail Art)
Size: 11 y 3/4" x 8 y 1/4" (29.7 cm. x 20.7 cm.).
Deadline for Receipt of Works: November 14, 2000.
NO censure. Documentation will be sent to all participants. Send 
to:
Amnesty International / AU+MA
1009 Georgetown
Urb. University Gardens
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00927-4822

E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
PLEASE, COPY AND PASS

Convocation de 
Art-Poste
"Pour un millénnium de Vie: Non a la 
Peine de Mort"
 
Organisateur: Amnestie Internationale, Puerto Rico et AU+MA 
(Acción Urgente Mail Art)
Les travaux seront pas plus grand de 11 et 3/4" x 8 et 
1/4" (29.7 cm. x 20.7 cm.).
Dernier jour qu'on acceptera des travaux: le 14 Novembre 
2000.
Il n'y aura pas de censure. On envoyera de documentation a tous 
les participants. Envoyer a:
Amnestie Internationale / AU+MA
1009 Georgetown
Urb. University Gardens
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00927-4822
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Convocatoria de Mail 
Art
"POR UM MILENIO DE VIDA: NÃO À PENA DE 
MORTE"
 
Organiza: Amnistía Internacional Secção do Porto Rico e 
AU+MA
Data límite pra recepção das obras: 14 do Novembro do 
2.000
Não terá censura o discriminação de obra nenhuma.
Todos los participantes receberá documentação.
Tamanho máximo de 11 ¾" x 8 ¼" (29.7cm. x 20.7cm.). Lugar de 
envío:

Amnistía Internacional / AU+MA
1009 Georgetown
Urb. University Gardens
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00927-4822
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
POR FAVOR FAÇA COPIAS E 
ESPALHE