Interchanging iBook G3 G4 keyboards
I'm afraid I've mostly lurked on this list for a while and I apologize if the subject has been covered before, but just in case it's helpful... I certainly didn't find anyone who seemed to have done the deed when I Googled this up a few times over the last year. Short answers: * You *cannot* use iBook G4 keyboards on iBook G3s without putting an extension on the ribbon, which, if you don't mind, we'll say is a nontrivial exercise, to put it mildly. * You *can* use G3 keyboards on G4 with a few caveats. One, you'll have to fold the ribbon like a Z over on itself, which is not the recommended way of using a ribbon cable. Two, you'll have a slight bow in the keyboard that'll make it poke up just enough you'll likely scrape the screen with your keyboard's keys. I had a G4 keyboard go flakey on me (never liked it as much as the iBook G3 keyboard, and it finally acted so wacky I either had to clean it #shudder!# or use it as an excuse for this experiment) and, after pulling another keyboard from a limping iBook G3, the things looked similar enough I thought it was worth a shot. So far, so good. The bent-over ribbon does concern me a bit, however. The iBook G4 keyboard doesn't have a particularly nice feel, imo, though the metal keyholders do seem a bit more robust. I've had issues on my G4 kybd with the space bar not being so responsive and with random keys repeating at the slightest pressure (particularly h, fwiw). Taking a little out of a G3 keyboard's ribbon would seem a nice way to get a good typing-feel into this very nice laptop. I'd considered downgrading to an iBook G3 900 to get as much perf as I could with the nicer keyboard, esp since Small Dog had told me that I couldn't swap in a G3 kybd for the G4. Glad I found out differently, so far. I'm not so sure they were wrong -- the keyboards *aren't* interchangeable. But, again, you can take the G3's to the G4. Anyhow, there you go. Hope that helps someone at some point. Ruffin Bailey -- Another rant from a so-called professional programmer... http://MyFreakinName.blogspot.com for more drivel. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Repair keybord lock on dual usb ibook G3
Hello everyone, I just got a new to me G3 ibook and the center lock on the keyboard locks then pops open after time. Is the a fix for this? I have used a small screwdriver to engage the lock. Thanks for help in advance Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook G3 14 startup problems
We have an iBook G3 800mhz 14 that has developed startup problems. Last year it was through the Apple extended repair program for the video/logic board issue and has been working well since. This week, it has been locking up during use (OS 9.1), shut down and restarted using the keyboard commands. I was told that one time it started up and exhibited the same garbled lines on the screen as it had before it went to Apple for the logic board repair. I haven't been able to reproduce that since, however. I have attempted to reset PRAM (letting it chime 3-5 times), reset the power manager using the keyboard commands, removed all power from it, let it sit for a few hours, attempted to restart using the power on key. Sometimes, upon attempt to restart I hear one long (2-3 second) tone before the startup chime. Sometimes I just hear the startup chime. In either case, I don't hear the drive spinning up or anything beyond the chime, and see no sign of life on the screen - it stays dark. I tried reseating and removing the memory with no change in results. Have attempted startup from both the AC power and just the battery (which is fully charged). Attempts to startup from a boot CD result in a startup chime, the sound of the CD drive spinning for several seconds, and then more silence and darkness. Suggestions? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook g3 screen replacement....
Greetings, I'm in midstream on replacing the display of my iBook (g3, 600 mhz) and wanted to check in quickly. I bought a replacement display assembly on eBay and installed it. The computer booted up, and the screen lit up. I poured myself a drink, celebrated, went to bed. This afternoon the screen started flickering almost as soon as I fired it up. Tonight I plan to go back in and do the installation again. I suspect I may have missed an element or two, or not affixed things as tight as tight can be. For example, after behaving properly for the first few hours (orange/green) the power plug went dark, suggesting other connectivity issues. Based on these two diagnostic points (flickering screen, dead power plug) does anybody have any other words of wisdom? Regards, Erik Ness -- ## Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: slow startup on ibook G3 600mhz
Are you kidding? 10.1 is a DOG! Nobody runs 10.1 these days. It's time to spring for a new Tiger. John On Oct 29, 2005, at 7:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am having an issue with my 600mhz iBook G3. I week ago I installed OSX.1 on it, and had no problems with it. Today I acquired a Airport card for it. I installed it, and started up the ibook. All of a sudden, the startup process was s-l-o-w-e-r than I ever remember; the little cartwheel would spin for what seemed like ages... Finally, after about 10-15 minutes, all that appeared was (in the upper right hand corner) the time/date display, the battery level and a little wireless indicator; no desktop icons, no desktop background. Choosing any of the mentioned items had no reponse. All I could do was to press the start button to shut the machine down. Removed the Airport card, and the same thing occurred. long startup resulting in just the three icons in the upper right hand corner. What did I do wrong? I know the Airport card works, as I am using it right now in a clamshell. And the machine started up perfectly several times last week, after I installed 10.1. Ivy F. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: slow startup on ibook G3 600mhz
In a message dated 10/30/05 1:48:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you kidding? 10.1 is a DOG! Nobody runs 10.1 these days. It's time to spring for a new Tiger. Ha, ha! I have heard that response a few times... I guess you're right. Ivy -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
slow startup on ibook G3 600mhz
Hi, I am having an issue with my 600mhz iBook G3. I week ago I installed OSX.1 on it, and had no problems with it. Today I acquired a Airport card for it. I installed it, and started up the ibook. All of a sudden, the startup process was s-l-o-w-e-r than I ever remember; the little cartwheel would spin for what seemed like ages... Finally, after about 10-15 minutes, all that appeared was (in the upper right hand corner) the time/date display, the battery level and a little wireless indicator; no desktop icons, no desktop background. Choosing any of the mentioned items had no reponse. All I could do was to press the start button to shut the machine down. Removed the Airport card, and the same thing occurred. long startup resulting in just the three icons in the upper right hand corner. What did I do wrong? I know the Airport card works, as I am using it right now in a clamshell. And the machine started up perfectly several times last week, after I installed 10.1. Ivy F. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Basic iBook g3 questions
Hi, I recently acquired my first ibook, a late 2001 600mhz G3 model. When I plug the laptop in, sometimes the lamp around the AC port is amber, and sometimes it is green. Also, when I jiggle the portion of the adapter where it plugs into the laptop, it goes from green to amber while still plugged in. What do the colors mean, and is it supposed to change color when jiggled while plugged in? Also, I am interested in (someday) replacing the dvd drive in it with a slot-loading cd-rw unit; can someone assist me with this offlist? Thanks, Ivy F. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Basic iBook g3 questions
on 22/10/05 08:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I recently acquired my first ibook, a late 2001 600mhz G3 model. When I plug the laptop in, sometimes the lamp around the AC port is amber, and sometimes it is green. Also, when I jiggle the portion of the adapter where it plugs into the laptop, it goes from green to amber while still plugged in. What do the colors mean, and is it supposed to change color when jiggled while plugged in? Also, I am interested in (someday) replacing the dvd drive in it with a slot-loading cd-rw unit; can someone assist me with this offlist? Thanks, Ivy F. Amber means it's charging the battery and providing power to the iBook. Green means that it is simply providing power to the iBook. The change when you jiggle the plug can only mean that there is a loose connection on the board. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Moof: /moof/ [Macintosh users] 1. n. The call of a semi-legendary creature, properly called the dogcow. (Some previous versions of this entry claimed, incorrectly, that Moof was the name of the _creature_.) 2. adj. Used to flag software that's a hack, something untested and on the edge. On one Apple CD-ROM, certain folders such as Tools Apps (Moof!) and Development Platforms (Moof!), are so marked to indicate that they contain software not fully tested or sanctioned by the powers that be. When you open these folders you cross the boundary into hackerland. 3. v. On the Microsoft Network, the term `moof' has gained popularity as a verb meaning `to be suddenly disconnected by the system'. One might say I got moofed. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Basic iBook g3 questions
My Reply follows quote. On 22/10/2005 05:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: on 22/10/05 08:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I recently acquired my first ibook, a late 2001 600mhz G3 model. When I plug the laptop in, sometimes the lamp around the AC port is amber, and sometimes it is green. Also, when I jiggle the portion of the adapter where it plugs into the laptop, it goes from green to amber while still plugged in. What do the colors mean, and is it supposed to change color when jiggled while plugged in? Also, I am interested in (someday) replacing the dvd drive in it with a slot-loading cd-rw unit; can someone assist me with this offlist? Thanks, Ivy F. Amber means it's charging the battery and providing power to the iBook. Green means that it is simply providing power to the iBook. The change when you jiggle the plug can only mean that there is a loose connection on the board. -Laurent. -- I have an original Blueberry iBook that has the same problem. I fixed it temporarily (problem has recurred) by taking the thing apart down to the logic board, removing the DC-In board and resoldering the power plug to the circuit board. The problem with these machines is that the power adapter plug sticks out when plugged into the computer and is easily bumped. Over time these bumps can break the power plug on the DC-In board loose from its mounts. Not too good of a design, but... Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Basic iBook g3 questions
In a message dated 10/22/2005 9:57:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an original Blueberry iBook that has the same problem. I fixed it temporarily (problem has recurred) by taking the thing apart down to the logic board, removing the DC-In board and resoldering the power plug to the circuit board. The problem with these machines is that the power adapter plug sticks out when plugged into the computer and is easily bumped. Over time these bumps can break the power plug on the DC-In board loose from its mounts. Not too good of a design, but... Well that explains that. Now I only need to find out how to take apart my ibook. I have exerience with G3 Powerbooks lombard, pismo and wallstreet, but not ibooks. Any offlist help would be appreciated. Thanks to all for the help, Ivy -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Basic iBook g3 questions
on 22/10/05 10:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/22/2005 9:57:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an original Blueberry iBook that has the same problem. I fixed it temporarily (problem has recurred) by taking the thing apart down to the logic board, removing the DC-In board and resoldering the power plug to the circuit board. The problem with these machines is that the power adapter plug sticks out when plugged into the computer and is easily bumped. Over time these bumps can break the power plug on the DC-In board loose from its mounts. Not too good of a design, but... Well that explains that. Now I only need to find out how to take apart my ibook. I have exerience with G3 Powerbooks lombard, pismo and wallstreet, but not ibooks. Any offlist help would be appreciated. Check PowerBook Fixit Guides http://www.pbfixit.com/Guide/. They have step-by-step instructions with pictures to take most Macintosh apart. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NSA line eater: n. The National Security Agency trawling program sometimes assumed to be reading the net for the U.S. Government's spooks. Most hackers used to think it was mythical but believed in acting as though existed just in case. since the mid-1990s it has gradually become known that the NSA actually does this, quite illegaly, through its Echelon program. The standard countermeasure is to put loaded phrases like `KGB', `Uzi', `nuclear materials', `Palestine', `cocaine', and `assassination' in their sig blocks in a (probably futile) attempt to confuse and overload the creature. The GNU version of EMACS actually has a command that randomly inserts a bunch of insidious anarcho-verbiage into your edited text. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
How to link Wallstreet 9.2.2 and iBook G3 10.3.9 by ethernet?
On Oct 8, 2005, at 8:30 PM, G-Books wrote: . . .My father in law needs to get . . . stuff from his old Wallstreet II (300 Mhz OS9) to the iBook (OS 10.4?) . . . Could he connect the two computers with an ethernet cable? It would be slow but we could do it with existing ports. Do you need a crossover cable or a regular one? Any links to tutorials? -Andrew Luis Sequeira responded: It's perfectly doable using an Ethernet cable. If the iBook is a fairly new model, you can use a regular cable (recent macs use auto- sensing ports). For older models, you'd have to use a crossover cable or a hub. I'd say go ahead with ethernet. Make sure you turn file sharing on. If you need more info just ask here or email privately. * Thanks, Luis, and all others of you who help us! I imagine many of this list's members have use for this information (although it may seem basic to you if you've done it) and will really benefit from a detailed answer here which we can save for future reference: Please give the details of actually doing this hookup with Ethernet, including how to turn file sharing on in both machines. In my case I need to connect a Wallstreet II OS 9.2.2 and a G3 iBook OS 10.3.9. Also, which machine should be booted first, which machine's file sharing needs to be turned on first, what will you see on each machine, and how do you actually do the file transfers? Can you give your guidance as step-by-step instruction as well? Please assume that some of those reading your advice may know less than you may presume them to know. . . Is it necessary to create specially designated sharable folders to put files and folders into to make them available for transfer? If so, how do you create them on each machine if you don't already have them? Thanks for any help you can offer in de-mystifying this anxiety-fraught process! stanton -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: How to link Wallstreet 9.2.2 and iBook G3 10.3.9 by ethernet?
On Oct 10, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: Thanks, Luis, and all others of you who help us! I imagine many of this list's members have use for this information (although it may seem basic to you if you've done it) and will really benefit from a detailed answer here which we can save for future reference: Please give the details of actually doing this hookup with Ethernet, including how to turn file sharing on in both machines. In my case I need to connect a Wallstreet II OS 9.2.2 and a G3 iBook OS 10.3.9. Also, which machine should be booted first, which machine's file sharing needs to be turned on first, what will you see on each machine, and how do you actually do the file transfers? It would be simplest to connect both systems. Start the OS X system, then the Wallstreet. Now set Appletalk to the ethernet port on the Wallstreet. Share the hard drive. Now, on the iBook, make sure Appletalk is active on the network preference pane for the Ethernet port. Now you should be able to see the Wallstreet if you click on Go Network in the Finder. Double click on it and authenticate to get to the Wallstreet's disk. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
Hi, Malcolm! I just attempted to install (add) OS 9.2.1, starting up from the 9.2.1 disk which comes as part of the install set of OS X 10.2. When I get to the screen which asks to choose a disk to install the OS on, the iBook's HD is not selectable. The message is: This version of Mac OS 9.2.1 may not be installed over the system software on the currently selected volume. Press the Options. . . button to perform a clean installation. When I press the Options. . . button, I'm told: Perform Clean Installation. Installs a completely new System Jolder that does not include your third-party extensions, control panels, or fornts. System software and application preferences are reset to their original settings. Malcolm, this message gives me NO indication of whether this installation will wipe out the installed version of OS X 10.3.8. What do you recommend I do here? Many thanks, stanton From: Malcolm Cornelius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:36:26 +0100 To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9? But, I need to use OS 9.2.2/Classic on this machine as well! Is it necessary to wipe the HD clean to install both operating systems? Nope. What is the best procedure for me to follow? IIRC OS 9 install is completely separate from OS X, so long as you don't reformat the HD ! Will I then be able to upgrade the OS X 10.3.9 to OS X 10.4x? Yup, but you'll lose 10.3.x unless your disc is partitioned. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
Sorry! I meant to modify my previous posting to include you all in my request for advice. I asked (now modified): I just attempted to install (add) OS 9.2.1 (to the OS X 10.3.8 on which the iBook is currently running, and is the only OS currently installed on it), starting up from the 9.2.1 disk which comes as part of the install set of OS X 10.2. When I get to the screen which asks to choose a disk to install the OS on, the iBook's HD is not selectable. The message is: This version of Mac OS 9.2.1 may not be installed over the system software on the currently selected volume. Press the Options. . . button to perform a clean installation. When I press the Options. . . button, I'm told: Perform Clean Installation. Installs a completely new System Jolder that does not include your third-party extensions, control panels, or fornts. System software and application preferences are reset to their original settings. This message gives me NO indication of whether this installation will wipe out the installed version of OS X 10.3.8. What do you recommend I do here? Many thanks, stanton -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
On 21/09/05 10:19, Stanton Mitrany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry! I meant to modify my previous posting to include you all in my request for advice. I asked (now modified): I just attempted to install (add) OS 9.2.1 (to the OS X 10.3.8 on which the iBook is currently running, and is the only OS currently installed on it), starting up from the 9.2.1 disk which comes as part of the install set of OS X 10.2. When I get to the screen which asks to choose a disk to install the OS on, the iBook's HD is not selectable. The message is: This version of Mac OS 9.2.1 may not be installed over the system software on the currently selected volume. Press the Options. . . button to perform a clean installation. When I press the Options. . . button, I'm told: Perform Clean Installation. Installs a completely new System Jolder that does not include your third-party extensions, control panels, or fornts. System software and application preferences are reset to their original settings. This message gives me NO indication of whether this installation will wipe out the installed version of OS X 10.3.8. What do you recommend I do here? Just a shot in the dark but maybe the OS 9 driver wasn't installed when the disk was originally erased. Not sure how to test this, though, but I thought that, in any case, you can install 9 after installing X. If the driver is really missing, that would mean starting over, erasing, installing 9, then 10. Are you sure there isn't a System Folder on the disk? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
My reply follows quote. On 9/21/05, at 10:19 am -0400, Stanton Mitrany wrote: Perform Clean Installation. Installs a completely new System Jolder that does not include your third-party extensions, control panels, or fornts. System software and application preferences are reset to their original settings. Cleam installation will install a new system folder. It will also re-name your existing System Folder to Previous System Folder. Then you can drag over, from the Previous System Folder, stuff you do not wish to losem to the new System Folder. This should not affect your OSX system. But why didn't you partition the HD so they were on separate partitions (Assuming you didn't)? That would keep the new install from even seeing the OSX install. -- HTH, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) QuadList, PCI PowerMacs and once swaplist nanny -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
On Sep 21, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: Hi, Malcolm! I just attempted to install (add) OS 9.2.1, starting up from the 9.2.1 disk which comes as part of the install set of OS X 10.2. When I get to the screen which asks to choose a disk to install the OS on, the iBook's HD is not selectable. The message is: This version of Mac OS 9.2.1 may not be installed over the system software on the currently selected volume. Press the Options. . . button to perform a clean installation. That means it has found a newer version of OS 9 on the disk. Ergo, you don't need to re-install OS 9. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
I wish it did have a System Folder. A search of the drive found zero items with or containing that name. Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: I thought that, in any case, you can install 9 after installing X If that is correct, if I do a Clean Install of OS 9.2.2, will that erase or inactivate or overwrite the installation of OS X 10.3.8? Stanton On 21/09/05 10:19, Stanton Mitrany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just attempted to install (add) OS 9.2.1 (to the OS X 10.3.8 on which the iBook is currently running, and is the only OS currently installed on it), starting up from the 9.2.1 disk which comes as part of the install set of OS X 10.2. When I get to the screen which asks to choose a disk to install the OS on, the iBook's HD is not selectable. The message is: This version of Mac OS 9.2.1 may not be installed over the system software on the currently selected volume. Press the Options. . . button to perform a clean installation. When I press the Options. . . button, I'm told: Perform Clean Installation. Installs a completely new System Jolder that does not include your third-party extensions, control panels, or fornts. System software and application preferences are reset to their original settings. This message gives me NO indication of whether this installation will wipe out the installed version of OS X 10.3.8. What do you recommend I do here? Just a shot in the dark but maybe the OS 9 driver wasn't installed when the disk was originally erased. Not sure how to test this, though, but I thought that, in any case, you can install 9 after installing X. If the driver is really missing, that would mean starting over, erasing, installing 9, then 10. Are you sure there isn't a System Folder on the disk? -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
On Sep 21, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: I wish it did have a System Folder. A search of the drive found zero items with or containing that name. If some idiot has moved the System Folder into one of the many unix folders hidden in Finder, Find Files in the Finder may not find it. (at least under OS X) Do this: Go to Applications Utilities and start terminal. enter this line at the prompt: sudo find / -name System Folder -print and press enter. You'll be asked for your password, and be shown a short warning about being nice if this is the first time you've used sudo, before the command will run. It may take a while but this WILL search the entire hard drive. Actually it'll search all mounted volumes, so kick out your OS 9 CD first. It will appear to do nothing, but if it comes back to the command prompt without having printed anything, there truly is no folder called System Folder on the disk. Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: I thought that, in any case, you can install 9 after installing X If that is correct, if I do a Clean Install of OS 9.2.2, will that erase or inactivate or overwrite the installation of OS X 10.3.8? No. OS 9 and OS X are independent and different things. Do NOT screw around with the various oddly named files and folders you see in OS 9, or you WILL mess up OS X, but the installers don't even notice the other system. Very likely it will set the startup system folder to the OS 9 one, but you can change that with the startup disk control panel. The issue is, the only way you get that error message is if there IS a newer version of OS 9 on the system somewhere. I'd just go for a clean install and go from there. If the OS 9 driver wasn't installed you wouldn't be able to even see the disk to install it. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
USB 2.0 on an iBook G3 600?
Hello all, My roommate and I are going to be getting 4 Gig iPod Nano's soon. I have a Pismo, so I'll be getting a PC card adapter that will give my Pismo USB 2.0. As the new Nano doesn't have Firewire, using 1.1 with the 4 gig model would be so slow it might be unpractical. But that's a simple solution for the Pismo. What can my roommate do with his iBook? It's got two USB 1.1 ports and one firewire port. There's no PC card slot as is the standard with iBooks. Is there an adapter that can give the iBook (son of Pismo) a USB 2.0 port? I've been looking, but have found nothing. Any ideas would be helpful. And for those in the know. . . just how slow would it be to transfer 4 gig worth of music using USB 1.1? A day? A week? Thanks for any input. . . Zoltan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: USB 2.0 on an iBook G3 600?
On Sep 21, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello all, My roommate and I are going to be getting 4 Gig iPod Nano's soon. I have a Pismo, so I'll be getting a PC card adapter that will give my Pismo USB 2.0. As the new Nano doesn't have Firewire, using 1.1 with the 4 gig model would be so slow it might be unpractical. But that's a simple solution for the Pismo. What can my roommate do with his iBook? It's got two USB 1.1 ports and one firewire port. There's no PC card slot as is the standard with iBooks. Is there an adapter that can give the iBook (son of Pismo) a USB 2.0 port? I've been looking, but have found nothing. Any ideas would be helpful. And for those in the know. . . just how slow would it be to transfer 4 gig worth of music using USB 1.1? When I first filled my 1GB Shuffle via USB1.1 it took an hour or so...I didn't pay too close attention, maybe a little longer, but not an 'all day' thing. However if you use it in true shuffle mode, iTunes creates the new 'mix', then only adds and removes songs that are different from what's on the shuffle. The nano will work in the same fashion. The Nano is usable via USB 1.1, just slow. That said, it also charges through the USB port, too, so it shouldn't be a deal-breaker unless your roommate is one of those folks with 900GB of songs with 3,467 obsessively created playlists who need to change them out RIGHT NOW -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to installOS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
It won't! Just do it. Tim On Sep 21, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: Malcolm, this message gives me NO indication of whether this installation will wipe out the installed version of OS X 10.3.8. What do you recommend I do here? Exterminate all rational though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
I've been lent a G3 iBook 500/ 30Gig HD, with only OS X 10.3.9 installed; no OS 9.2.2/Classic. There are applications installed I'd like to continue to use, and also, to be able to have there when I may eventually return the machine. But, I need to use OS 9.2.2/Classic on this machine as well! Is it necessary to wipe the HD clean to install both operating systems? What is the best procedure for me to follow? Will I then be able to upgrade the OS X 10.3.9 to OS X 10.4x? All the best, stanton -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ?: iBook G3 500 has10.3.9: Is HD wipeout needed to install OS 9.2.2 / 10.3.9?
But, I need to use OS 9.2.2/Classic on this machine as well! Is it necessary to wipe the HD clean to install both operating systems? Nope. What is the best procedure for me to follow? IIRC OS 9 install is completely separate from OS X, so long as you don't reformat the HD ! Will I then be able to upgrade the OS X 10.3.9 to OS X 10.4x? Yup, but you'll lose 10.3.x unless your disc is partitioned. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook G3 G4 12 14 MoBos
Nope. The battery connector on the 12in is soldered on the logic board whereas on the 14in they are on a cable off the board IIRC. it is for the larger size of the 14. there is no way to modify the boards? btw. i guess that the 12 g3 and g4 are indeed interchangeable. isn't it? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook G3 G4 12 14 MoBos
Nope. The battery connector on the 12in is soldered on the logic board whereas on the 14in they are on a cable off the board IIRC. it is for the larger size of the 14. there is no way to modify the boards? Didn't seem easy when I looked at it - I didn't even consider it an option when trying to repair a 14in btw. i guess that the 12 g3 and g4 are indeed interchangeable. No idea, I've never looked at a G4 board. Even within the G3 12in, there are a number of different board sizes and you may need the metal frame as well as the logic board to do swap. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook G3 G4 12 14 MoBos
Given that the logic board of the 14 iBook G4 has the same size of the 12 I was wondering if the are interchangeable, and, in case, if it is possible to put the 14 G4 logic board into a 12 G3 ibook. Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet vs iBook G3-G4
Matt and Sue Halter said: My wallstreet w/bluechip 466 G3 will run many programs faster under OSX than my 800 G4 iBook, even though I have 640 mb ram in the iBook and only 256 in the WS. I think it has to do with the difference in L2 cache size as much as anything. Just speculation though. I agree this is the reason as the g4 bluechips aren't faster than the 500Mhz+ PB G4s in tests I've seen. iBooks, except maybe for the latest, seem crippled. I actually thought that the then 2003-04 crop of iBook G4s, maybe they had 256MB, looked bad GUI-wise compared to my WS II 266 with 384 MB and 10.3. That was like strange. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet vs iBook G3-G4
Is the BlueChip a G4? If so the G4 chip will run OS X faster than a G3 -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer °°.°.°.°. http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ Lombard400, 512MB RAM, OS X.2.8 eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it is your last because someday you'll be right. On Thursday, May 5, 2005, at 03:22 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: I have several Macs, including PowerBook G4, PowerMac G5, iBook G4 and G3. Today I had to set up and old WS with the BlueChip 500 MHz processor to use with an even older projector (this old projector seems to be not compatible with any of the Aluminium screen resolution). Well after a year away from the WS (OS X 10.2.8) I noticed it is pretty faster than the iBook G3 500 MHz and not so slower than the iBook G4. Opinions? -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer °°.°.°.°. http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ Lombard400, 512MB RAM, OS X.2.8 eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it is your last because someday you'll be right. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook G3 drive type
Does anyone know the combo drive type in the dual USB iBooks, more so, the iBook 800 (April 2003) ? Know of any drive that will fit the bezel without too much surgery? I'm also looking at just a standard CD/RW as well. Thanks in advance, Dallas -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook G3 - G4
The Logic Boards in the whole white iBook line (G3, G4, 12 14) occupies only the left side and since the ports are located in the same position I was wondering if it is feasible to swap them; i.e. upgrade a G3 to a G4. I have the opportunity of getting an iBook G4 logic board. Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook G3 -- G4
Is it feasible to put the logic board of an iBook G4 into an iBook G3? Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
video problem iBook G3
I just bought a G3/800 iBook with 32MB VRAM and have a weird problem. It had Panther installed (not in English) and I wiped the HD, made 2 partitions and installed 9.2.2 on one and Panther + 9.2.2 on the other. 9 installed fine in both cases and everything worked okay, but after I zapped the PRAM and rebuilt the deskop, the desktop on screen turned, and has remained, small, covering about 2/3 of the screen and sitting right in the middle. Checked the monitor control panel and it gave me 2 displays, including an external one: though none was attached. I attached an external display, which showed up mirrored, but the desktop on the iBook remained 2/3. I then installed Panther and the desktop was normal. Everything also worked fine with external monitor attached. I then booted back into 9, with the external monitor attached, and the iBook's desktop filled the whole iBook screen, plus the external one was okay. I then detached the external monitor and rebooted the iBook in 9, and the small desktop problem returned. Any suggestions? Thanks, Chris -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Ibook G3 to ibook G4
Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from G3 iBook To G4 iBook that is what I was going to do with my new iBook but then I got to thinking was there any thing in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont be there for the G4 Michael Sharon Vogt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4
On 22/11/04 16:50, michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from G3 iBook To G4 iBook that is what I was going to do with my new iBook but then I got to thinking was there any thing in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont be there for the G4 I'm assuming, since you mention 'Carbon Copy Cloner', that you're referring to OS X. If that's the case, then know that when I got my PowerBook G4 17, I cloned the Mac OS X system partition on my PowerBook G3 Pismo and restored it over the PowerBook 17 internal hard disk (which I did while in FireWire target mode). Since my PowerBook G3 Pismo didn't have some G4-based applications (like GarageBand), after I checked that the cloning was successful and that I could boot the 17, I then proceeded to install the missing applications from the installation DVD that came with the 17. I've been using my PowerBook 17 for over a month now without any adverse effect. I believe that, except for some applications, the OS X system installation is always the same no matter what the target Macintosh is. For instance, all installations I've done on various Macintosh have all the video card drivers for all the cards supported by Mac OS X, no matter if a given card would be usable in that Macintosh or not. So, if OS X runs fine on your iBook G3, then it should work fine on your iBook G4... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4
On Nov 22, 2004, at 2:50 PM, michael Vogt wrote: Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from G3 iBook To G4 iBook that is what I was going to do with my new iBook but then I got to thinking was there any thing in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont be there for the G4 Michael Sharon Vogt I have done this successfully with G4 - G5 towers. If this is a brand new G4 iBook, it will ask if you want to copy over your files and settings from the old one, if it supports firewire. You may lack some apps, for example, dvd player is not installed if there is no dvd drive. Beltssuspenders method: CCC old system to new system, then do an immediate ArchiveRe-install of the system. That keeps all your old data and installs a fresh system with everything your current hardware supports. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4
That was what I thought to but I thought I would ask and I'm doing as we type so will see what might be missing Michael Sharon Vogt On Nov 22, 2004, at 3:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 22/11/04 16:50, michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from G3 iBook To G4 iBook that is what I was going to do with my new iBook but then I got to thinking was there any thing in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont be there for the G4 I'm assuming, since you mention 'Carbon Copy Cloner', that you're referring to OS X. If that's the case, then know that when I got my PowerBook G4 17, I cloned the Mac OS X system partition on my PowerBook G3 Pismo and restored it over the PowerBook 17 internal hard disk (which I did while in FireWire target mode). Since my PowerBook G3 Pismo didn't have some G4-based applications (like GarageBand), after I checked that the cloning was successful and that I could boot the 17, I then proceeded to install the missing applications from the installation DVD that came with the 17. I've been using my PowerBook 17 for over a month now without any adverse effect. I believe that, except for some applications, the OS X system installation is always the same no matter what the target Macintosh is. For instance, all installations I've done on various Macintosh have all the video card drivers for all the cards supported by Mac OS X, no matter if a given card would be usable in that Macintosh or not. So, if OS X runs fine on your iBook G3, then it should work fine on your iBook G4... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook G3
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:01:29 -0500 Subject: Re: iBook G3 From: Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a 12 iBook 600/700/800 with a CD/DVD drive and would like to know what the going price for this setup is right now. I only need it for traveling and have no interest in one of the new faster models. Thanks Tom I think you'll have to rely on luck to find one of these. There weren't many 12 G3 iBooks with DVD drive; mostly they were fitted with plain CDs. This was one of the enhancements that came in with the G4 range. DVDs were available on the 14 G3 iBooks. To be truthful, my feeling is that you'd be better off looking for a s/hand 12 G4 iBook; the 800 Mhz ones from the beginning of this year are beginning to show up s/hand now, and they are very, very good. Considerably better, IMHO, than the G3 iBooks: G4, of course; DVD; Airport Extreme; nicer keyboard; and it's believed they're free of the motherboard problems that have beset the G3 iBooks. They do cost a bit more, but one result of the reduction of new prices over the last couple of years is that second-hand prices have also been compressed; a 4 month-old 800Mhz G4 iBook won't cost that much more than a 12-month old G3 iBook. Tom Burke -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook G3
On Jul 9, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Tom Burke wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:01:29 -0500 Subject: Re: iBook G3 From: Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a 12 iBook 600/700/800 with a CD/DVD drive and would like to know what the going price for this setup is right now. I only need it for traveling and have no interest in one of the new faster models. Thanks Tom I think you'll have to rely on luck to find one of these. There weren't many 12 G3 iBooks with DVD drive; mostly they were fitted with plain CDs. This was one of the enhancements that came in with the G4 range. DVDs were available on the 14 G3 iBooks. Actually, that's not entirely true. While the low-end iBooks were offered with CD only drives, there were 12 models with DVD or Combo drives available at every revision as well. I currently have a 600mHz and a 900mHz G3 iBook with Combo drives. They're readily available on eBay and are pretty cheap. Most of the ones left at resellers will be the CD version as they were the cheapest and slowest selling models. Apple kept them around to have an entry level machine at a good price point. To be truthful, my feeling is that you'd be better off looking for a s/hand 12 G4 iBook; the 800 Mhz ones from the beginning of this year are beginning to show up s/hand now, and they are very, very good. Considerably better, IMHO, than the G3 iBooks: G4, of course; DVD; Airport Extreme; nicer keyboard; and it's believed they're free of the motherboard problems that have beset the G3 iBooks. They do cost a bit more, but one result of the reduction of new prices over the last couple of years is that second-hand prices have also been compressed; a 4 month-old 800Mhz G4 iBook won't cost that much more than a 12-month old G3 iBook. I'd have to agree with you here. You can probably get an 800mHz G4 iBook for a few $$ more than an 800-900mHz G3 one. The benefits noted above are real as well. The only downside is that OS 9 is only available in Classic on the G4 models. Make sure you get a DVD version though. Apple made G4 CD only iBooks as well. -Hal -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iBook G3
I am looking for a 12 iBook 600/700/800 with a CD/DVD drive and would like to know what the going price for this setup is right now. I only need it for traveling and have no interest in one of the new faster models. Thanks Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
No Batteries Available - iBook G3/900
I just started having a similar problem in my 900mHz G3 iBook. It's only 8 months old and was working great until this morning. When I woke it up this morning (after being plugged in all night, as usual) it said there was no battery present. I tried resetting the nvram (from open firmware) after trying to reset the power manager, all to no avail. Just out of curiosity, I swapped in the battery from my wife's 600mHz iBook and it ran and charged it fine. My battery has just up and died, apparently. It shows up as dead in the 600mHz iBook as well. Any ideas? I hardly ever use it on battery power so I'm stunned that it would just die like this. Any info is appreciated. On May 18, 2004, at 2:38 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 18/05/04 14:10, Anne Judge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 17 powerbook has just started claiming it has no battery installed, though it does. It can even run off the battery while claiming it has no battery!! (But it shuts down very ungracefully when - I presume - the battery runs down.) Does anyone know what can cause this in this model? The one way I've figured out to get it to see its battery is to pull it out and snap it back it - a pain since it's on the bottom, plus it doesn't work all the time any more (or for very long when it does work). I've tried restarting, resetting the PMU (using Apple's instructions for this powerbook), and using the battery update software from Apple's site (which isn't described as solving this problem - in fact, the I only remember seeing the x through the battery problem mentioned in conjunction with WallStreets, and couldn't find any mention of it happening to Aluminum G4s). None of these helped. It should be under warranty still, and definitely has a CompUSA extended warranty (I got the floor model from there), but CompUSA is inconvenient to me - over an hour - and I wanted to know if anyone here had an idea what the problem might be (battery? PMU? other?) before I check out the local Apple repair site or hit the road for CompUSA. How long did you have it? It could be the battery running out, but since it's a 17, I would think something else is at cause, like the PMU. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: No Batteries Available - iBook G3/900
On 21/05/04 11:49, Hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started having a similar problem in my 900mHz G3 iBook. It's only 8 months old and was working great until this morning. When I woke it up this morning (after being plugged in all night, as usual) it said there was no battery present. I tried resetting the nvram (from open firmware) after trying to reset the power manager, all to no avail. Just out of curiosity, I swapped in the battery from my wife's 600mHz iBook and it ran and charged it fine. My battery has just up and died, apparently. It shows up as dead in the 600mHz iBook as well. Any ideas? I hardly ever use it on battery power so I'm stunned that it would just die like this. Any info is appreciated. Sounds like a defective battery. You should bring it back to your nearest Apple store or Apple dealer and they should replace it. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: No Batteries Available - iBook G3/900
On May 21, 2004, at 11:50 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 21/05/04 11:49, Hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started having a similar problem in my 900mHz G3 iBook. . . Just out of curiosity, I swapped in the battery from my wife's 600mHz iBook and it ran and charged it fine. . . Sounds like a defective battery. You should bring it back to your nearest Apple store or Apple dealer and they should replace it. I hope my problem is that simple! Laurent asked how long I'd had mine - I didn't get back because after having the problem for a week or so, my computer behaved for the last 3 days. Then this morning, when I started it up after it sat plugged in charged shut down all night (not common, I'd shut it down because I had to log out back in anyway to activate some software), the X of doom is back! Well, I got it the day before Christmas, as we stopped in to get a present for my husband - he ended up buying a much better one for me :-) But it was the display model, so it had been on, plugged in, with this battery in it, for months - probably since the early days of this model (when did it first ship, last March?). I'll hope it's the battery because then I don't have to lose the computer for any time, just swing into CompUSA swap out the battery! I'll find out as I pass CompUSA next Friday on my way to my parents' for the long weekdn, let all know if that does the trick. Anne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: No Batteries Available - iBook G3/900
On May 21, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 21/05/04 11:49, Hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started having a similar problem in my 900mHz G3 iBook. It's only 8 months old and was working great until this morning. When I woke it up this morning (after being plugged in all night, as usual) it said there was no battery present. I tried resetting the nvram (from open firmware) after trying to reset the power manager, all to no avail. Just out of curiosity, I swapped in the battery from my wife's 600mHz iBook and it ran and charged it fine. My battery has just up and died, apparently. It shows up as dead in the 600mHz iBook as well. Any ideas? I hardly ever use it on battery power so I'm stunned that it would just die like this. Any info is appreciated. Sounds like a defective battery. You should bring it back to your nearest Apple store or Apple dealer and they should replace it. Good call, thanks. I called AppleCare and they're overnighting me a new battery. As long as I return the defective one within 10 days (in the pre-paid box they're sending) there's no charge. Go Apple! -Hal -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
