Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo/m68k
Am Sonntag, 15. Juni 2003 05:00 schrieb ext Zach Lowry: Anyhow, that's all fixed now, and I hope to have an official stage1 tarball ready soon. What this e-mail is for is to hopefully gather interest in the port so that the powers that be may make it an official Gentoo architecture. I realize that m68k is 10-years old, but it still has several uses, and Gentoo can fulfil those uses quite nicely. I have two Sun 3/80s that serve as DNS for me, and a Performa 550 as a NTP server, A Quadra 660AV for video, etc. As the Monty Python line goes, They're Not Dead Yet! So is my Amiga. Had the the same idea months ago, but didn't find the time. If I get my hands on a stage[123] I would be happy to put some ~m68k into one or another ebuild :-) Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with running quake3
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Sunday 15 June 2003 11:28 pm
I arleady copy file pak0.pak to /opt/quake3/missionpack/ but it
doesn't work. I have origina cd key.
/opt/quake3/baseq3 ;-)
Norberto
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[gentoo-user] Re: updatedb
On dim, 15 jun 2003, Jason Nielsen wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Kirtis Bakalarczyk wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Jason Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I updated recently and noticed that 'updatedb' runs periodically. I don't recall this happening before but I'm sure it did.. my main concern is that when it runs it sucks up all of my RAM (384 MB), which if it was running previously it most certainly didn't! My system usually runs with about 70MB when I have browser, terminals etc. (normal operation for me) but when updatedb runs it basically launches my RAM usage up well over 300MB and doesn't release when 'updatedb' finishes. I do understand how Linux memory works so this shouldn't be a concern but it is irritating because when I run a Fortran 90 or R job I need quite a bit of RAM and the system freezes up starts to go to swap before releasing the cached memory.. giving a very choppy feel.. and actually it effects the run time of my code.. it's driving me crazy! Anyways I'm not sure anyone can help out on this one but I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this behavior or if it is something specific to my setup. You could just remove it's entry from the crontab. Mine is under /etc/cron.daily/slocate. Just delete or move the file and you're golden. KIRT Thanks to Kirt and Wing for their responses. I have moved /etc/cron.daily/slocate to /etc/cron.weekly. This is useful but I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem... or is it just me. I sounds from the responses that it is just me.. I can't figure out why it is doing this!! I've re-emerge slocate to see if this will help. Anyways thats for the info. Hi, just to answer your question you are not totaly alone. For some reason, one of my computers (the laptop) reacts the same way whenever I am doing an updatedb or copying a large file from one disk to another. I am then left with 4M of ram out of 512M. I do not understand why, and have been looking for solutions in the kernel (the newer kernels have a memory limit option (it's in the GRsecurity patch), but have not been successful). What strikes me is that only the laptop behaves this way although it has about the same specs as my desktop (Laptop : P4B 1.7, 512 M Ram, Desktop : P4B2.4, 1G Ram). If anyone knows why... Jonathan Cheers, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- War is much too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military. -- Clemenceau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo/m68k
Lars Juel Nielsen wrote: Could be fun to install Gentoo on my A600 and A1200 :D Would this be possible? The Amiga 600 and 1200 did not have a MMU, at least not out-of-the-box. And, IIRC, you need a MMU to run another OS apart from AmigaOS on Amiga. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge link error due to i586-pc-linux-gnu/i686-pc-linux-gnu mismatch
On sam, 14 jun 2003, Paul Hannah wrote: Please! I've been trying to work out this problem for hours/days now, and my previous email has seen no response. I'm just replying to plead on my knees for any hints, anything guys. I'm clutching at straws, and as you can see wasting away my partying hours with fruitless tinkering... Thanks. At 05:18 13/06/2003, I wrote: Hi, I've just recently finished a successful install of gentoo 1.4rc4 from stage 3, right through to kde, ftpd, apache, samba, etc. Something has changed however and everytime I try to emerge a package I get the error shown below. Basically it seems to be looking for the i586... library tree instead of the i686... tree (which exists and seems to be in order) I've done a grep i586 on set, /etc and /etc/* and it wasn't anywhere except within comments. The configure part of the emerge refers exclusively to i686... Well, I've looked everywhere I can think of, nothing seems to be the problem, hoping someone here can help. Thanks in advance, Paul. I'va had the exact same problem. OK, you must wonder where it comes from : simply enough, from the stage3 installs which uses a i586 optimized bootstrap for compatibility issues. You can see that in your /usr directory, you should see a directory named : i586-pc-linux-gnu. You need to bootstrap again (I did, worked like a charm, ALTHOUGH you should be warned that this will overwrite /etc/group, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf and /etc/make.conf if you do not set the CONFIG_PROTECT variable properly). You can boostrap from within your system, or from the chrooted environment on the LiveCD. This should get things right. Last I would advise against using an unstable version of gcc (masked version) when bootstrapping as I tried and it rendered my system utterly unusable (no more emerge, ebuild or any command that relied on python would work), forcing me to reinstall. Regards, Jonathan --- /bin/sh ../../../libtool --mode=link g++ ...lesd -lsoundserver_idl -laudiofile -lm -lXft -ldl grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[4]: *** [libkvilib.la] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kvirc-3.0.0_beta2-r1/work/kvirc-3.0.0-beta2/src/kvilib/build' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kvirc-3.0.0_beta2-r1/work/kvirc-3.0.0-beta2/src/kvilib' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kvirc-3.0.0_beta2-r1/work/kvirc-3.0.0-beta2/src' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kvirc-3.0.0_beta2-r1/work/kvirc-3.0.0-beta2/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: net-irc/kvirc-3.0.0_beta2-r1 failed. !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 123, Exitcode 2 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- War is much too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military. -- Clemenceau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfree 4.3.0-r3 locale problems
On zo, 15 jun 2003, Ernie Schroder wrote: Ok guys, it seems the upgrade of Mozilla to r2 and Xfree to r3 really screwed up my system... downgrading both packages didn't help. Mozilla still crashes (except when I run it as root), KDE programs still show little square boxes instead of normal characters. I've set my locales correct, so that couldn't be a problem. Did you do etc-update to check updated config files after upgrading xfree? An update to xfree usually messes with fonts and many files need updating. Mozilla, I don't know about but I've seen messed up fonts in kde apps starting DURRING xfree updates. Yep, I did the etc-update. I just discovered, that when I start X as root, everything works... Looks like my normal user doesn't have permission to use the fonts or something ? Strange :-0 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
Hi I had the same problem a long time. Now I found out, that there is an alternative way to use the truetype fonts. RightClick - Filters - Render - DynamicText FreeType Marc * Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16.06.03 01:40]: I have successfully installed several TrueType fonts on my notebook computer. They are available to KDE and to many of my GTK apps (e.g., Gaim). However, they do not show up in my Gimp font selector. Can anyone explain this to me or explain how to make the fonts available? gimp.org says that if the fonts are available to X then they are available to The Gimp. But it's not working for me at the moment. -- /* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say * By your command or Activating turbo boost, Michael. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB CF reader hotplug mounting
I have in `/dev/scsi` only `ide-scsi` dir How can I get /dev/scsi/sg* tree ? If I type `modprobe sg` nothing happend. my lsmod: Module Size Used byNot tainted usb-uhci 24524 0 (unused) usb-storage29432 0 (unused) rtc 8252 0 (autoclean) usbcore64480 1 [usb-uhci usb-storage] bcm440027328 1 sd_mod 12044 0 (unused) sr_mod 16472 0 (unused) sg 34252 0 (unused) ide-scsi8656 0 scsi_mod 97140 4 [usb-storage sd_mod sr_mod sg ide-scsi] I think I must put some lines in my devfsd.conf to get sg-subtree in /dev/scsi. What is this lines? -- sergey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge link error due to i586-pc-linux-gnu/i686-pc-linux-gnu mismatch
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Chocron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge link error due to i586-pc-linux-gnu/i686-pc-linux-gnu mismatch [snip] You need to bootstrap again (I did, worked like a charm, ALTHOUGH you should be warned that this will overwrite /etc/group, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf and /etc/make.conf if you do not set the CONFIG_PROTECT variable properly). You can boostrap from within your system, or from the chrooted environment on the LiveCD. This should get things right. [snip] My $.02: I bootstrapped from within my own install once. Hosed everything. YMMV. Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird Nightly Builds
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 03:37, Rasmus Wiman wrote: Aren't nigthly builds somewhat similar to building from a cvs checkout? Would it be difficult to create an ebuild that just checks out the cvs sources and builds them? There is already an ebuild for mozilla-firebird-cvs in portage right now :) /Rasmus Wiman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] masked file
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 05:42, Stephen Turner wrote: hey i forgot the masked ebuilds file name and location /usr/portage/profile/packages.mask and was also curious, is usermode-linux sources masked because its potentially dangerous if the user makes a mistake or because its got a serious bug? generally packages are masked for both reasons but really dunno.. thanks Regards -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge java version problems.
Phil Barnett wrote: However, when I follow that link, I end up with: j2sdk-1_4_1_03-linux-i586.bin (note the version change) Now what? You can find the older version from: http://www.osso.org.co/jhcaiced/java/linux/j2sdk-1_4_1_02-linux-i586.bin If that link doesn't work, just search for it in alltheweb or google. -- Cheers, Jani-Matti Hätinen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] tcpd xinitd
I noticed in a document that you should set USE to include 'tcpd' to improve/enhance your security options. Is this still valid if you are using xinitd, which includes the functionality of tcpd in it? Or is it unneccessary? -- Kethryvis Gruuk: UFies are above and beyond the human race :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org
William F Pearson III wrote: Open Office takes so much time because it is huge. I wasn't prepared for the wait when I first emerged it either. I can understand that, but you have to recognize something that's a little different. When I emerge I measure it in days. Generally, I emerge right before I go to bed or leave for work. But never haphazardly, which is something that other distributions allow you to do with impunity. Using something like Debian or Suse, I think nothing of adding in another Window Manager, test driving open office, or just throwing up my arms and reinstalling from scratch. But when it takes 8 hours to install XFree86 and 6 hours to bootstrap, I tend to be more careful about what I install. I did an 'emerge -e world' and it took something just under 24 hours to finish. I think Gentoo has a great potential. Sure it takes time, but the arguement is, how often do you really install Open Office? Now that you have it done once, anything further can be done during the night when it won't be noticed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would think with Java being so portable that it would actually work. I too have trouble with java sometimes, but for the most part it seems to work. The problem however with Flash isn't Linux its Macromedia. Macromedia sold their soul to the devil a long time ago, and who knows if they even care anymore. Last time I check there was a webpage that you could fill out a form saying you want Flash 6 for Linux, and they would think about it. With Flash moving into .NET stuff I doubt Flash 6 will happen in any timely manner if at all. I thought Flash 6 was out for Linux... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge java version problems.
On 16/6/03 11:23 am, Jani-Matti Hätinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil Barnett wrote: However, when I follow that link, I end up with: j2sdk-1_4_1_03-linux-i586.bin (note the version change) Now what? You can find the older version from: http://www.osso.org.co/jhcaiced/java/linux/j2sdk-1_4_1_02-linux-i586.bin If that link doesn't work, just search for it in alltheweb or google. I also have a copy, somewhere here, if you need it. This worked fine for me last week. Once you have started you emerge, can you please check bugs.gentoo report it is no-one else has yet..? Cheers, Stroller -- Enjoyed this post? Thanks for reading - please consider employing me! Technical support / system administration - CV available on request Linux / Unix / Windows / Mac OS X - UK or anywhere considered -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
Alan wrote: Why isn't there an out-of-the-box Linux solution that's as good as Windows? Actually, if you really think about it, it neither is in Windows. Last time I installed one, I had to go to Macromedia (Flash), Adobe (Acrobat-Reader), Apple (Quicktime), RealNetworks (Realplayer), Sun (Java) to get the needed plugins. Oh, yeah, and to Microsoft (Mediaplayer). Yes, and no. In windows it seems a little nicer because it's a lot better (IMHO) about installing the plugins... you get a prompt saying hey, install xyz, you click ok, it grinds for a few minutes, goes through an install wizard, and then you go back to the original window and voila! it's there and working. Some would consider this a security problem. I admit that mozilla/mozillafirebird is a lot better in this respect now though. You no longer have to restart moz to get plugins recognized, simply copy the files into your plugins dir and reload and they work. You can also have them installed for all users, as root. As to answer the original question, no, I don't think that the browsing experience is quite as good in linux (yet), and while there are solutions (ximian desktop 2 is a very nice out of the box experience, and redhat 8/9 weren't all that bad) it's not everywhere. When Internet Explorer first came out, they had a lot of web pages and plug-ins that didn't work for them. Today, it's not Linux that has difficulties with web browsing. It's everyone who is not running IE4.x or higher on a Windows 98 or higher machine. All Macintosh users have similar sob stories. A couple of other things that are against linux in the whole out of the box experience in general. First of all while macromedia has indeed sold their soul to the devil, so have most of the other companies, but the important ones (flash, pdfs, java, etc) do work. Another thing is because linux is a multi-user system as compared to XP (much as they'd like to show different), you can't just install the acrobat reader plugin as a user, you still have to SU to root, emerge the plugin or run the file, wait for it to finish, and then go back to your user. Mac OS/X seems to have it right with running as a user with SU privileges all the time and then popping up a please enter your user password whenever a program needs to be installed. Not running as root, but running close enough to it that you can tasks like installing software much easier. I wish linux was a bit more like this. I am very used to popping up a root shell when I need to do things, but I don't think I should *have* to do this. First, this is a security item in Linux that you will not easily get around, nor should you. Second, what you are referring to smells a lot like SUDO only wrapped up in something cute. I do not want any idiot on my machines able to install anything that they want to. I have inexperienced and gullible users on my network and I know full well that they would be too quick to install every kind of spyware and other crap if they were only given the chance. And then they would come bitching to me about how their system is totally unusable because they have 100 spams a day and everything keeps crashing. No, Linux is usable as a browsing platform. It works fine on so many sites that it's really a minority. Java applications puke. That's not the fault of Java, that is the fault of a shitty programmer who is still in chapter 8 of Jave for Dummies. Java is a very nice, but dangerous, plug-in. Don't blame the OS for Java's inproprieties. -- BOFH excuse #249: Unfortunately we have run out of bits/bytes/whatever. Don't worry, the next supply will be coming next week. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with running quake3
Does Quake3 have a ~/.quake3 directory like Quake 2 does. If so put the pak0 in the base directory. On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:28:34 +0200 Alexander Netopier Leonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I arleady copy file pak0.pak to /opt/quake3/missionpack/ but it doesn't work. I have origina cd key. -- Alexander Netopier Leonov ICQ: 44434531 ftp://netopier.sh.cvut.cz Unofficial Linux Gentoo FTP Mirror Linux je ako iglu, nijake OKNA ani dvere, iba apache vo vnutri... . EOF -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
On Sunday 15 June 2003 16:40, Timothy Grant wrote: I have successfully installed several TrueType fonts on my notebook computer. They are available to KDE and to many of my GTK apps (e.g., Gaim). However, they do not show up in my Gimp font selector. Can anyone explain this to me or explain how to make the fonts available? gimp.org says that if the fonts are available to X then they are available to The Gimp. But it's not working for me at the moment. This does not apply to anti-aliased fonts. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with running quake3
To my knowledge (I run three q3 servers) The pak0.pk3 file goes in the baseq3 dir under /opt/quake3 The mission pack files go in the mission pack dir from the team arena disk. On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 07:42, brett holcomb wrote: Does Quake3 have a ~/.quake3 directory like Quake 2 does. If so put the pak0 in the base directory. On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:28:34 +0200 Alexander Netopier Leonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I arleady copy file pak0.pak to /opt/quake3/missionpack/ but it doesn't work. I have origina cd key. -- Alexander Netopier Leonov ICQ: 44434531 ftp://netopier.sh.cvut.cz Unofficial Linux Gentoo FTP Mirror Linux je ako iglu, nijake OKNA ani dvere, iba apache vo vnutri... . EOF -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] masked file
On Monday 16 June 2003 02:17, Gavrila wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 05:42, Stephen Turner wrote: hey i forgot the masked ebuilds file name and location /usr/portage/profile/packages.mask and was also curious, is usermode-linux sources masked because its potentially dangerous if the user makes a mistake or because its got a serious bug? generally packages are masked for both reasons but really dunno.. thanks Regards -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list The reasons should be explained in /usr/portage/profile/packages.mask. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
Mac OS/X seems to have it right with running as a user with SU privileges all the time and then popping up a please enter your user password whenever a program needs to be installed. Not running as root, but running close enough to it that you can tasks like installing software much easier. I wish linux was a bit more like this. I was thinking more along the lines of running everyone as a normal users in the wheel group, but having linux automatically pop up something like the excellent (IMO) kdesu every time it needs root permissions for something, with a big fat warning sign on it and the text flashing in super-ugly red (WARNING: THIS MIGHT BE A VIRUS, AND IF IT IS AND YOU ENTER THE PASSWORD NOW, YOU'RE SCREWED). As for plugins, even better: Why not make a mozilla admin user? Then, if someone wants to install a plugin, they give that password, and you don't have to tell all of the users on your PC the root password. That'd work great for home systems. (Sign: If Mozilla asks you for an administrator password, it is MKB838741. But don't worry, if we get virii like this they'll only screw up Mozilla). -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
You don't have to. The ebuild will include whatever is needs no matter what your USE flag is. The Use flag is for adding optional build features. For example, if a app can be built with gnome but doesn't have to and you have -gnome the gnome features are not included in the build. If you put gnome then the gnome features will be built in. If the app MUST have gnome it builds with it no matter what your use flags. On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:54:31 -0700 Klaus D. Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2003 10:23 pm, Chris I wrote: Why did you do this??? I was under the impression that I'd have to. Well, apparently I was wrong. How do I figure out which USE variables are required for any given program to emerge? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:47:04AM +0200, Marc Winiger wrote: Hi I had the same problem a long time. Now I found out, that there is an alternative way to use the truetype fonts. RightClick - Filters - Render - DynamicText FreeType Don't forget to emerge gimp-freetype first :) Marc * Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16.06.03 01:40]: I have successfully installed several TrueType fonts on my notebook computer. They are available to KDE and to many of my GTK apps (e.g., Gaim). However, they do not show up in my Gimp font selector. Can anyone explain this to me or explain how to make the fonts available? gimp.org says that if the fonts are available to X then they are available to The Gimp. But it's not working for me at the moment. -- /* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say * By your command or Activating turbo boost, Michael. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] play [amsn]
Hi, I´m not sure how many of you use amsn, but when you go to toolsoptionspreferences...sounds there it says ¨play¨. I think I´m missing that package because I don´t hear any sound when my pals go online, or anything else, and I think that you´re supposed to hear sound by default in amsn. How do I get that package? Thank you, ZiM __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
--- Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2003 16:40, Timothy Grant wrote: I have successfully installed several TrueType fonts on my notebook computer. They are available to KDE and to many of my GTK apps (e.g., Gaim). However, they do not show up in my Gimp font selector. Can anyone explain this to me or explain how to make the fonts available? gimp.org says that if the fonts are available to X then they are available to The Gimp. But it's not working for me at the moment. This does not apply to anti-aliased fonts. What I did in debian was I just made a bash script which says: #!/bin/bash #1st dir with fonts xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont #2nd dir with fonts xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont xset fp rehash And I ran it everytime I wanted to work on THE GIMP :) I hope this helps. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
On Monday 16 June 2003 05:03, Gëzim wrote: --- Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2003 16:40, Timothy Grant wrote: I have successfully installed several TrueType fonts on my notebook computer. They are available to KDE and to many of my GTK apps (e.g., Gaim). However, they do not show up in my Gimp font selector. Can anyone explain this to me or explain how to make the fonts available? gimp.org says that if the fonts are available to X then they are available to The Gimp. But it's not working for me at the moment. This does not apply to anti-aliased fonts. What I did in debian was I just made a bash script which says: #!/bin/bash #1st dir with fonts xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont #2nd dir with fonts xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont xset fp rehash And I ran it everytime I wanted to work on THE GIMP :) I hope this helps. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I suggest you append /usr/bin/gimp $* to the end of the script. Thus, it acts as a wrapper. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] jpilot / irda
Hi all, has anyone succeeded in setting up the synchronisation between jpilot and the palm, using irda (on a Toshiba tecra9100)? These are the lines in /etc/modules.conf: ### modules-update: start processing /etc/modules.d/irda alias char-major-161 ircomm-tty alias tty-ldisc-11irtty post-install irda /usr/sbin/irattach /dev/irda pre-removeirtty /usr/bin/killall -q irattach ### modules-update: end processing /etc/modules.d/irda lsmod Module Size Used byTainted: PF ircomm-tty 35712 0 (autoclean) (unused) ircomm 16040 0 (autoclean) [ircomm-tty] lp 7328 0 (autoclean) (unused) vpnmod189984 -1 (unused) irtty 9184 2 (autoclean) irda 169040 0 (autoclean) [ircomm-tty ircomm irtty] rtc 7388 0 (autoclean) I tried to irattach it to /dev/tts/0, as it is the only tty I have at boot up, but irdadump doesn't display anything that could look like a signal sent by my palm. Any hints? Thanks in advance! LB smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
On 16/6/03 12:14 pm, Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan wrote: Yes, and no. In windows it seems a little nicer because it's a lot better (IMHO) about installing the plugins... you get a prompt saying hey, install xyz, you click ok, it grinds for a few minutes, goes through an install wizard, and then you go back to the original window and voila! it's there and working. Some would consider this a security problem. Not my mum, tho'. ... Mac OS/X seems to have it right with running as a user with SU privileges all the time and then popping up a please enter your user password whenever a program needs to be installed. Not running as root, but running close enough to it that you can tasks like installing software much easier. I wish linux was a bit more like this... First, this is a security item in Linux that you will not easily get around, nor should you. Second, what you are referring to smells a lot like SUDO only wrapped up in something cute. This is *exactly* what it is. The something cute is just a Cocoa implementation of the same sort of thing that KDE (ksu?) Gnome supply. IMO user privileges is one thing Apple have managed to get very right with OS X - for home SOHO installations, the user to install the o/s automatically has sudo privileges, but directory services (LDAP?) is also supported out of the box for larger installations. In the former case, all other users can be granted user-only access in the latter the sysadmin can make sensible decisions regarding network policy. This http://tinyurl.com/ef5b manual would appear to provide quite a decent overview. No, Linux is usable as a browsing platform. It works fine on so many sites that it's really a minority. Java applications puke. That's not the fault of Java... I find this story interesting: http://tinyurl.com/ef5u Stroller. -- Enjoyed this post? Thanks for reading - please consider employing me! Technical support / system administration - CV available on request Linux / Unix / Windows / Mac OS X - UK or anywhere considered -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ICQ setup
Hi, This is perhaps a silly question, but i have a friend who want to chat with me true ICQ. I have Gaim installed, but i have no idee where i can activate/create a ICQ account, i believe i must have one before i add a AIM/ICQ account in Gaim. Patrick -- Eaten any good books lately? -- Q (to Worf) (Deja-Q) PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Freshly installed 1.4, gdm login works only for root
Hi folks, I have just installed a fresh 1.4 RC3, just emerged X and gnome and trying to login via gdm. I have added a local user jh using the adduser command, created the homedir of the user and tested login on the console, it works fine. If I now want to log in to X via gdm, I just get the error message your X session has lasted less than 10 seconds [...] View details. In the details files are only the following 2 lines: /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: running: sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers -h -l :0 jh and nothing more. After I hit OK, gdm restarts an re-presents me the login screen. Login via gdm using root works fine, gnome starts up normally. Starting X as jh via startx /usr/bin/gnome-session works equally fine. And stracing gdm doesn't work, then gdm simply hangs after typing in the username. Has anyone a clue where to look for a resolution? Regards, Jens -- GPG: 1024D/CF884D50 F2E8 F7FC F823 6464 4E9D EFAB 6EE9 8B9C CF88 4D50 Jens Hoffrichter / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Fon: 0172/5376989 A room without books is like a body without a soul! (Cicero) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Freshly installed 1.4, gdm login works only for root
On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 04:27 PM, Jens Hoffrichter wrote: Hi folks, I have just installed a fresh 1.4 RC3, just emerged X and gnome and trying to login via gdm. I have added a local user jh using the adduser command, created the homedir of the user and tested login on the console, it works fine. If I now want to log in to X via gdm, I just get the error message your X session has lasted less than 10 seconds [...] View details. In the details files are only the following 2 lines: /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: running: sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers -h -l :0 jh and nothing more. After I hit OK, gdm restarts an re-presents me the login screen. Login via gdm using root works fine, gnome starts up normally. Starting X as jh via startx /usr/bin/gnome-session works equally fine. And stracing gdm doesn't work, then gdm simply hangs after typing in the username. Has anyone a clue where to look for a resolution? Regards, Jens -- GPG: 1024D/CF884D50 F2E8 F7FC F823 6464 4E9D EFAB 6EE9 8B9C CF88 4D50 --- - Jens Hoffrichter / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Fon: 0172/5376989 A room without books is like a body without a soul! (Cicero) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list do you have a separate /tmp partition? if so, chmod 1777 /tmp, otherwise normal users can't write files there (something which has bugged me for a long time, and is still a problem in the gentoo install) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
Hi, Thanks for all the great answers everyone. As is generally true for a lot of these threads, I wish I would have used slightly different wording in my original email, but that's OK as I think we got at least part way to the answers I was looking for. The 'Out of the Box' comment comes more from my marketing side than my technical side. I have no problem getting a little bit dirty and being hands on to make it work. I'm just looking for the Gentoo page that explains what to do! To summarize what I think I heard: (Please correct me if I'm wrong) 1) There are a number of additional packages that a user can install under Gentoo to make Mozilla more capable of handling the data type I run into. Jason gave a starter list as: emerge netscape-plugger emerge netscape-flash emerge mplayerplug-in While (for me) this didn't work for even mp3 files (Mozilla just hung saying something about loading a movie player or something like that) the response gets right to the sort of answer I wanted, which was: emerge these packages, change these settings here and there, and enjoy! 2) We need a better list somewhere on what should be emerged to operate more at the Windows level when browsing. It may not be perfect, but we should be able to say something like Audio links - emerge XXX edit these preferences (mp3, ogg, etc.) Video links - emerge YYY edit these preferences (avi, mpeg, etc.) File links - emerge ZZZ edit these preferences (pdf, txt, etc.) 3) The comments on security and about why it cannot work automatically today are really great, and I hadn't even considered that part. Linux does provide extra security. Sometimes it gets a bit in the way of the simple user types like me, but that's OK with a good list like in #2 above. 4) I'll add that after reading here, I do get that comparing Mozilla to IE6 isn't a fair comparison. I understand that IE has billions of dollars behind it. A more fair comparison would be Mozilla on a Windows box, or Netscape on a Windows box, with Mozilla on a Linux box. Can these two be brought into parity? Again, I wasn't looking to find out anything other than does web browsing really 'work' for others in the Linux world. It doesn't work that well for me, but more because multimedia support in Linux just isn't as advanced as other platforms and it's hard to know, not being a developer, what to load and how to get it all tied together. I do think this would be a useful HOWTO for a Gentoo page some day. Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience? On 16/6/03 12:14 pm, Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan wrote: Yes, and no. In windows it seems a little nicer because it's a lot better (IMHO) about installing the plugins... you get a prompt saying hey, install xyz, you click ok, it grinds for a few minutes, goes through an install wizard, and then you go back to the original window and voila! it's there and working. Some would consider this a security problem. Not my mum, tho'. ... Mac OS/X seems to have it right with running as a user with SU privileges all the time and then popping up a please enter your user password whenever a program needs to be installed. Not running as root, but running close enough to it that you can tasks like installing software much easier. I wish linux was a bit more like this... First, this is a security item in Linux that you will not easily get around, nor should you. Second, what you are referring to smells a lot like SUDO only wrapped up in something cute. This is *exactly* what it is. The something cute is just a Cocoa implementation of the same sort of thing that KDE (ksu?) Gnome supply. IMO user privileges is one thing Apple have managed to get very right with OS X - for home SOHO installations, the user to install the o/s automatically has sudo privileges, but directory services (LDAP?) is also supported out of the box for larger installations. In the former case, all other users can be granted user-only access in the latter the sysadmin can make sensible decisions regarding network policy. This http://tinyurl.com/ef5b manual would appear to provide quite a decent overview. No, Linux is usable as a browsing platform. It works fine on so many sites that it's really a minority. Java applications puke. That's not the fault of Java... I find this story interesting: http://tinyurl.com/ef5u Stroller. -- Enjoyed this post? Thanks for reading - please consider employing me! Technical support / system administration - CV available on request Linux / Unix / Windows / Mac OS X - UK or anywhere considered -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a completeexperience?
What would be really great would be to bea able to do this... emerge mozilla-complete ...and have it do all this stuff for you. Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/03 8:40 AM 2) We need a better list somewhere on what should be emerged to operate more at the Windows level when browsing. It may not be perfect, but we should be able to say something like Audio links - emerge XXX edit these preferences (mp3, ogg, etc.) Video links - emerge YYY edit these preferences (avi, mpeg, etc.) File links - emerge ZZZ edit these preferences (pdf, txt, etc.) 3) The comments on security and about why it cannot work automatically today are really great, and I hadn't even considered that part. Linux does provide extra security. Sometimes it gets a bit in the way of the simple user types like me, but that's OK with a good list like in #2 above. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Freshly installed 1.4, gdm login works only forroot
Sjors Robroek wrote: do you have a separate /tmp partition? if so, chmod 1777 /tmp, otherwise normal users can't write files there (something which has bugged me for a long time, and is still a problem in the gentoo install) Have you filed a bug @ bugs.gentoo.org? Why does this happen for you? Surely if you have /tmp mounted when you untar the install stage you use, it will get the correct permissions? MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ICQ setup - just ignore
Sorry, just ignore this stupid question very hard studing for java exam, and brain overloated -- Eaten any good books lately? -- Q (to Worf) (Deja-Q) PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org -- Eaten any good books lately? -- Q (to Worf) (Deja-Q) PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Freshly installed 1.4, gdm login works only for root
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 04:33:44PM +0200, Sjors Robroek wrote: I have just installed a fresh 1.4 RC3, just emerged X and gnome and trying to login via gdm. I have added a local user jh using the adduser command, created the homedir of the user and tested login on the console, it works fine. If I now want to log in to X via gdm, I just get the error message your X session has lasted less than 10 seconds [...] View details. In the details files are only the following 2 lines: /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: running: sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers -h -l :0 jh and nothing more. After I hit OK, gdm restarts an re-presents me the login screen. Login via gdm using root works fine, gnome starts up normally. Starting X as jh via startx /usr/bin/gnome-session works equally fine. And stracing gdm doesn't work, then gdm simply hangs after typing in the username. Has anyone a clue where to look for a resolution? do you have a separate /tmp partition? if so, chmod 1777 /tmp, otherwise normal users can't write files there (something which has bugged me for a long time, and is still a problem in the gentoo install) Yep, that fixed it! Bugger! :) I think an extra /tmp partition is extremely useful, because I don't want THAT much writing-activity on my / partition. Writing is always error prone, especially in a case of spontaneous shutdown (which can happen at a laptop quite easy - working without AC-adaptor) and a process currently writing to a file in the /tmp breaks my complete / filesystem. So I can simply reformat my tmp-partition and go on like nothing has happend ;) I think it would be great to fix it in the baselayout / baseinstall or even mention it in the install documentation (I hope I have not overread it ;)) ). I know a couple of people who use this partition layout. Regards, Jens -- GPG: 1024D/CF884D50 F2E8 F7FC F823 6464 4E9D EFAB 6EE9 8B9C CF88 4D50 Jens Hoffrichter / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Fon: 0172/5376989 The color of nature is not green. It is red, bloodred. Cassie in Animorphs - The Unknown by K.A.Applegate -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Freshly installed 1.4, gdm login works only for root
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:54:59PM +0100, MAL wrote: Sjors Robroek wrote: do you have a separate /tmp partition? if so, chmod 1777 /tmp, otherwise normal users can't write files there (something which has bugged me for a long time, and is still a problem in the gentoo install) Have you filed a bug @ bugs.gentoo.org? Why does this happen for you? Surely if you have /tmp mounted when you untar the install stage you use, it will get the correct permissions? Not that I'm aware of. IIRC I have mounted all partitions prior to unpacking the stage-tarball. Regards, Jens -- GPG: 1024D/CF884D50 F2E8 F7FC F823 6464 4E9D EFAB 6EE9 8B9C CF88 4D50 Jens Hoffrichter / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Fon: 0172/5376989 Die Zukunft hat viele Namen. Für die Schwachen ist sie das Unerreichbare. Für die Furchtsamen ist sie das Unbekannte. Für die Tapferen ist sie die Chance. (Victor Hugo) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Curiosity - DirectFB
Assuming you have a working framebuffer device already and a well-formed, useful ~/.xinitrc, just run startxdfb. -- Nathan Middleton ah, well, i just noticed that directfb was emerged and i started to emerge xdirectfb :) does anybody perhaps have any resources on how i can get started with directfb _instead_ of Xfree? cheers, -bri On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 00:35, MIKE MacMartin wrote: so i did an `emerge -s directfb' and got the obvious results: `dev-libs/DirectFB', `dev-libs/DirectFB-extra' and 'x11-base/xdirectfb' but neither of these will work if i go for the `emerge -puD directfb' all i get is the following message: I wrestle with this a log ... emerge -s is essentially doing a grep -i on all of them... note the case insensitive flag. Unfortunately, emerge doesn't do this as well. So, the command you'd want is emerge DirectFB, emerge DirectFB-extra or emerge xdirectfb. cheers, -bri MIKE -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
On June 16, 2003 10:53 am, Larry Meadors wrote: What would be really great would be to bea able to do this... emerge mozilla-complete ...and have it do all this stuff for you. maybe this is a bit overdoing it, or maybe just wishful thinking, but it seems that the USE flags are getting a bit crazy in an attempt to solve this sort of thing. want flash in konqueror USE=motif etc. etc. why not something like this? have the USE flags for standard things, like X support. you don't want a bunch of gtk or qt stuff on your sever just 'cause you like nmap right? but for more detailed things, like flash in konqueror or realplayer plugins in mozilla, why not a basic yes/no question period?: # emerge -p mozilla Do you want flash? y Do you want real player? y Do you want some sucky plugin? n ...compiling list [ebuild N ] net-www/mozilla-1.3-r2 [ebuild N ] net-www/netscape-flash-6.0.79 [ebuild N ] media-video/realplayer-8-r5 the personalised settings can be stored somewhere locally that isn't affected by emerge sync and a single use previous settings question can be asked at upgrade time or even assumed with a switch. granted, you can't get too detailed with a setup like this, or people will be answering questions for hours, but for something as intimate (wrong word?) as web browsing, i would think that this sort of functionality would be very useful. any thoughts? -- a moment of joy in a lifetime of suffering... take it, while you can - abassador londo molari, babylon 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] kernel 2.4.21 ebuild
Hi, I saw that kernel 2.4.21 has been released. Does anybody know when the gentoo-sources ebuild will be ready? I tried to merge 2.4.20-r5 to 2.4.21 , but it was relying on a patch file. greetz Logic -- Operating Sytem: i586 Linux with Kernel v2.4.19-gentoo-r7 Uptime: 7 days 7 hours 30 minutes -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help with GWN's -user summary
I've recently migrated to Boca Grande FL for the tarpon tournaments to apply to the New College of FL in Sarasota... between living in my van all the fishing, I've found myself w/o adaquate computer time, and unable to keepup with my GWN summaries of the -user mailing list. Is anyone interested in helping contribute the -user summary? Responsibilities include monitoring the list for active interesting threads, and submitting a summary of these @ every Friday. I'd very much like to have 1 - 2 volunteers. If you're interested, please contact me or Kurt Lieber. Thanks, Brice Burgess - This mail sent through the iCEBURG Mailserver -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] play [amsn]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe it's just a problem with 2 or more processes trying to get access to the /dev/dsp. Try to run amsn alone (that is, without kde, nor gnome, etc), from X, to discover the problem. Regards - -- Juan Ángel PGP key on pgp.rediris.es (8FAF18B7) or search on http://www.rediris.es/cert/servicios/keyserver/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7eGoaQjbS4+vGLcRAhsHAJwJkERs8bKfFbBDlJzSf1J6zEwXEwCeJtYG 6EWxeACy8+s2lsUuy/AoHpQ= =kUZU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
What would be really great would be to bea able to do this... emerge mozilla-complete ...and have it do all this stuff for you. maybe this is a bit overdoing it, or maybe just wishful thinking, but it seems that the USE flags are getting a bit crazy in an attempt to solve this sort of thing. want flash in konqueror USE=motif etc. etc. why not something like this? have the USE flags for standard things, like X support. you don't want a bunch of gtk or qt stuff on your sever just 'cause you like nmap right? but for more detailed things, like flash in konqueror or realplayer plugins in mozilla, why not a basic yes/no question period?: # emerge -p mozilla Do you want flash? y Do you want real player? y Do you want some sucky plugin? n ...compiling list [ebuild N ] net-www/mozilla-1.3-r2 [ebuild N ] net-www/netscape-flash-6.0.79 [ebuild N ] media-video/realplayer-8-r5 I like the concept of the idea, but how would the ebuild for Mozilla know about all possible plug-in and add ons? New data type may come along after the ebuild is written, and as a user I don't even know about it until I run into the data type on the web. I can see the logic of how M$ does it: 1) You browse until you have a problem. 2) A dialog pops up and say I need something, based on a certain data type. IE6 offers to download something. Mozilla offers to save the file. 3) At this point, if there was a link to some web page that has known associations and what needs to be downloaded/emerged to use the data type, then I could open a xterm and as root go make it happen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
On 2003.06.16 01:54, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2003 10:23 pm, Chris I wrote: On 2003.06.16 00:08, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: Hi, I did: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv evolution and got: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-mail/evolution-1.2.4 +ssl +nls +mozilla -ldap - doc +spell -pda -ipv6 -kerberos +kde Okay. Then I added +ssl +nls +mozilla -ldap -doc +spell -pda -ipv6 - kerberos +kde to my USE in /etc/make.conf Why did you do this??? I was under the impression that I'd have to. Well, apparently I was wrong. How do I figure out which USE variables are required for any given program to emerge? Brett touched on this a bit, but I thought I would try to make this a little more clear. Absolutely no USE flags are _required_, they are all optional. Some are turned on by default, and others are off by default. You can find out what use flags you are using by running this command: emerge info | grep USE setting your USE flags in make.conf adds onto the default useflags. for example, arts is enabled by default, but I do not wish to have support for it, so I've put -arts into USE in /etc/make.conf. Basically, putting XYZ will enable support for XYZ if the program you are emerging has support for it. As for the line you did, the -v tag is verbose. After each ebuild listing, it tells you what USE flags will affect the program. +ssl +nls +mozilla -ldap -doc +spell -pda -ipv6 -kerberos +kde That means that evolution will be compiled with support for ssl, nls, mozilla, spell, and kde, but it will not have any features for ldap, doc, pda, ipv6, or kerberos. You really would never need to change your use flags, but it is often a good idea, say, if you buy a palm pilot, you can put pda in your USE flag so some programs will have support for it. then I emerged evolution with: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge evolution It installed fine but when I try to run it, it just shows the splash screen, nothing else. What did I do wrong? Did you have a previous version of evolution set up for your user? No. I nerver succeeded installing a functioning version. Some people have trouble getting it to work, and others have none. Unfortunately I'm not using evolution, so I can't really comment too much on it. it might be some conflicting setting in your ~/evolution directory. try moving it to evolution.backup and seeing if evo runs then. Same thing. Just the splash appears, and it has to be killed to remove it. Closing doesn't work either. BTW, galeon doesn't start either. Is there a connection? I think there might be, what version of galeon? -Chris I The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable. -- John Kenneth Galbraith pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] play [amsn]
You'll need to start a sound server. When using KDE arts (which is a sound server) is started. arts puts all thos programs that want to use sound together. So one program doesn't have to wait for the other to finish. You can start arts without using kde. just do artsd . Then use the play command artsplay for amsn. This will make amsn using arts instead of play, which i think is used by OSS. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe it's just a problem with 2 or more processes trying to get access to the /dev/dsp. Try to run amsn alone (that is, without kde, nor gnome, etc), from X, to discover the problem. Regards - -- Juan Ángel PGP key on pgp.rediris.es (8FAF18B7) or search on http://www.rediris.es/cert/servicios/keyserver/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7eGoaQjbS4+vGLcRAhsHAJwJkERs8bKfFbBDlJzSf1J6zEwXEwCeJtYG 6EWxeACy8+s2lsUuy/AoHpQ=kUZU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - Please wait while you are redirected to my signature.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.4.21 ebuild
On Monday 16 June 2003 08:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I saw that kernel 2.4.21 has been released. Does anybody know when the gentoo-sources ebuild will be ready? I tried to merge 2.4.20-r5 to 2.4.21 , but it was relying on a patch file. greetz Logic When it's done. This is the third time it's been asked (AFAIK) and it's been answered the same way every time. You're welcome to patch a vanilla .21 with gentoo-sources patches, if you'd like. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
On June 16, 2003 12:15 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: but for more detailed things, like flash in konqueror or realplayer plugins in mozilla, why not a basic yes/no question period?: # emerge -p mozilla Do you want flash? y Do you want real player? y Do you want some sucky plugin? n ...compiling list [ebuild N ] net-www/mozilla-1.3-r2 [ebuild N ] net-www/netscape-flash-6.0.79 [ebuild N ] media-video/realplayer-8-r5 I like the concept of the idea, but how would the ebuild for Mozilla know about all possible plug-in and add ons? New data type may come along after the ebuild is written, and as a user I don't even know about it until I run into the data type on the web. I can see the logic of how M$ does it: 1) You browse until you have a problem. 2) A dialog pops up and say I need something, based on a certain data type. IE6 offers to download something. Mozilla offers to save the file. 3) At this point, if there was a link to some web page that has known associations and what needs to be downloaded/emerged to use the data type, then I could open a xterm and as root go make it happen. i can see your point, but i would think that your solution would require a considerable amount of work on mozilla's end rather than gentoo's. so while i might agree that your solution is a good one, methinks that this list is not your intended forum. initially though i was trying to touch on the idea of an out of the box setup for a web browser. something that would setup/install all the required stuff you'd want for your browsing without overcomplicating the USE system and this IS something gentoo could impliment (how easily i suppose would be something the developers would have to talk about) -- i don't know exactly what democracy is. but we need more of it. - anonymous chinese student, during protests in tianamen square, beijing, 1989 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
i can see your point, but i would think that your solution would require a considerable amount of work on mozilla's end rather than gentoo's. so while i might agree that your solution is a good one, methinks that this list is not your intended forum. No, I understand that. And there's nothing wrong at all with doing it at the emerge level. If we had another setup page in the Use Docs area about setting up your browser, than that page could have all the know associations, which would grow over time. When I hit something my browser doesn't know about, I would just go look there first instead of asking this like 'What do I emerge to all Mozilla to look at this file type.' initially though i was trying to touch on the idea of an out of the box setup for a web browser. something that would setup/install all the required stuff you'd want for your browsing without overcomplicating the USE system and this IS something gentoo could impliment (how easily i suppose would be something the developers would have to talk about) Yes, I support your idea. I'm not a developer so I haven't a clue about where to go to make it happen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: updatedb
Hi, just to answer your question you are not totaly alone. For some reason, one of my computers (the laptop) reacts the same way whenever I am doing an updatedb or copying a large file from one disk to another. I am then left with 4M of ram out of 512M. I do not understand why, and have been looking for solutions in the kernel (the newer kernels have a memory limit option (it's in the GRsecurity patch), but have not been successful). What strikes me is that only the laptop behaves this way although it has about the same specs as my desktop (Laptop : P4B 1.7, 512 M Ram, Desktop : P4B2.4, 1G Ram). If anyone knows why... Jonathan H.. very interesting, the system in question is also a laptop. I basically moved slocate to cron.weekly, but this isn't much of a fix to the problem. If I ever figure it out I will post a message to the list. I don't think it is kernel related however as I am using the same kernel as I was previous to my update and I don't recall this behavior.. and I would definitely have noticed! Cheers, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
On June 16, 2003 01:42 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: i can see your point, but i would think that your solution would require a considerable amount of work on mozilla's end rather than gentoo's. so while i might agree that your solution is a good one, methinks that this list is not your intended forum. No, I understand that. And there's nothing wrong at all with doing it at the emerge level. If we had another setup page in the Use Docs area about setting up your browser, than that page could have all the know associations, which would grow over time. When I hit something my browser doesn't know about, I would just go look there first instead of asking this like 'What do I emerge to all Mozilla to look at this file type.' ahhh! you're looking for some sort of gentoo web service! (to use a micros~1 word). it sounds like a good plan, but it would mean yet another thing for the developers to maintain. but i can definately see the value in something like that. -- giving it up would mean... it would mean that all along they'd been wrong. it would mean that they'd never known how to rule the world. it would mean... relinquishing their pretensions to godhood. - Daniel Quinn's ishmael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] play [amsn]
MooktaKiNG wrote: You'll need to start a sound server. When using KDE arts (which is a sound server) is started. arts puts all thos programs that want to use sound together. So one program doesn't have to wait for the other to finish. You can start arts without using kde. just do artsd . Then use the play command artsplay for amsn. This will make amsn using arts instead of play, which i think is used by OSS. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I´m not sure how many of you use amsn, but when you go to toolsoptionspreferences...sounds there it says ¨play¨. I think I´m missing that package because I don´t hear any sound when my pals go online, or anything else, and I think that you´re supposed to hear sound by default in amsn. How do I get that package? Thank you,fg ZiM I think the problem's more basic than that - if play cannot be found, SoX probably hasn't been emerged. I just checked in the amsn ebuild and it doesn't depend on sox. imho, it's more likely that's missing than a sound daemon. Try 'emerge sox' and see if that sorts the problem. I don't use amsn anymore (too nasty! isn't there a better im with msn integration for *nix?) but maybe someone should tell the ebuild maintainer about the missing dependancy. hope that helps Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo and ecs k7som
Ok got the boards today, they're ECS K7SOM+ v5.2C boards. Will install gentoo on one(don't have a hdd for the other one at the moment) of them tomorrow i think, I'm too tired to to set up ip masquerading now to get through to the net from another NIC than the one in this machine, stupid admin types only letting us use one NIC(registered with MAC addy) per person on here On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 20:17, Lars Juel Nielsen wrote: Cool, anyone else got some input on this? Will probably order them tomorrow or at least this week if i'm gonna get them. If i run into anything I'll probably post it on this thread. On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 20:07, Mike Roest wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Juel Nielsen wrote: | Anyone know if there are any other problems with Gentoo and the ECS | K7SOM board than the ones mentioned on the forum and if those have been | fixed since the postings on there. | | I was going to get a K7SEM v3.0(or higher) board but can't get them | anymore and the K7SOM is about the same price for a board with faster a | CPU. | | Any comments on stability, support and such would be appreciated. I've been using mine for a couple weeks now, the only problem I had was that it wouldn't run my HD in ATA 100/133. It was giving write errors and buffer problems all kinds of crap. Changing to a ATA33 cable fixed these issues. I'm guessing it was probably an issue with the ATA100 cable I was using but I haven't had time to test another one yet. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+5h5sw+I3MvUBM6QRAniYAJ9/Mg8OHcKu69RUGzBlj4o5WX2/CgCgk9RK +sTOU9xzOg1GtBcYvryJrdw= =VdAX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- In 1968 it took the computing power of 2 C-64's to fly a rocket to the moon. Now, in 1998 it takes the Power of a Pentium 200 to run Microsoft Windows 95. Something must have gone wrong. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
I've a problem using ssh's X11 forwarding under gentoo-1.4rc2. The service works, but if you start an ssh session say with: # ssh hex /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla The app opens fine, but ocassionally (and annoyingly!) the job becomes stopped and the app will hang. Sometimes hitting bg will sort the problem, others it's necessarry to do a fg and hit a couple of carriage-returns to unblock the app. This happens with all the gui apps I've tried. I'm using gnome-terminal 2.2.1, bash 2.05b.0(1), OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 all on a pretty much stock 2.4.20-gentoo kernel. Am I doing something dumb here? Cheers Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] play [amsn]
OR you can just use aplay if you've install alsa as your sound driver. just replace play with aplay and it should work fine. But i still like and recommend using the sound server arts. It gets REALLY annoying when your playing xmms and can't here your emails or people logging in. MooktaKiNG wrote: You'll need to start a sound server. When using KDE arts (which is a sound server) is started. arts puts all thos programs that want to use sound together. So one program doesn't have to wait for the other to finish. You can start arts without using kde. just do artsd . Then use the play command artsplay for amsn. This will make amsn using arts instead of play, which i think is used by OSS. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I´m not sure how many of you use amsn, but when you go to toolsoptionspreferences...sounds there it says ¨play¨. I think I´m missing that package because I don´t hear any sound when my pals go online, or anything else, and I think that you´re supposed to hear sound by default in amsn. How do I get that package? Thank you,fg ZiM I think the problem's more basic than that - if play cannot be found, SoX probably hasn't been emerged. I just checked in the amsn ebuild and it doesn't depend on sox. imho, it's more likely that's missing than a sound daemon. Try 'emerge sox' and see if that sorts the problem. I don't use amsn anymore (too nasty! isn't there a better im with msn integration for *nix?) but maybe someone should tell the ebuild maintainer about the missing dependancy. hope that helps Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - Please wait while you are redirected to my signature.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
Bryn, I have not seen this problem. I'm on a slightly newer gentoo release (1.4rc4) I'm running using shh -X -C -c blowfish remote_IP I'm Gentoo on both ends. I run Evolution multiple times every day with no big problems. I did write this list a week or two ago about the disconnection of ssh hanging on the local end, and needing to do a Ctrl-C to get around that. I got no responses, and the problem seems to have disappeared a few days ago. Cheers, Mark -Original Message- From: bryn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping! I've a problem using ssh's X11 forwarding under gentoo-1.4rc2. The service works, but if you start an ssh session say with: # ssh hex /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla The app opens fine, but ocassionally (and annoyingly!) the job becomes stopped and the app will hang. Sometimes hitting bg will sort the problem, others it's necessarry to do a fg and hit a couple of carriage-returns to unblock the app. This happens with all the gui apps I've tried. I'm using gnome-terminal 2.2.1, bash 2.05b.0(1), OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 all on a pretty much stock 2.4.20-gentoo kernel. Am I doing something dumb here? Cheers Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Regarding your posts on the GUML
On 16/6/03 1:01 pm, Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please do not take the following offensively, I merely mean to provide you with constructive critcism. Don't be silly. I always try not to let on when I'm offended. I've noticed that on your posts to the GUML, you advertise your want to be employed; Gizza job, mister..! ... However, I do not think it would be wise to advertise yourself as a sysadmin, then post to a ML with your root address. Pardon..? IMHO, using root for *anything* except essential administrative tasks is risky and careless. I most certainly agree. I rather like `sudo`, as it ensures that the administrator must be conscious of each root-privileged action that he takes - using `su` it is rather too easy to stay logged in as root for longer than intended. If I were you, I would post from a different user than root. Erm... but, of course, I do. I rather assumed that would be obvious. Again, please don't take the following offensively, but if I were in the market to employ a sysadmin, I would not hire you because of your seemingly reckless usage of the root account. It's not really THAT seemingly, Sir: [silva:~] stroller% host stellar.eclipse.co.uk stellar.eclipse.co.uk mail is handled (pri=10) by mx1.ex.eclipse.net.uk stellar.eclipse.co.uk mail is handled (pri=20) by mx2.ex.eclipse.net.uk [silva:~] stroller% nslookup stellar.eclipse.co.uk Server: gentoo.lan Address: 192.168.1.43 *** No address (A) records available for stellar.eclipse.co.uk [silva:~] stroller% As you can see, stellar.eclipse is virtually hosted. Is it really a risk for me to post using this address..? I hope that this did not come off as rude in any way, I just want to offer my advice as a fellow Linux professional and sysadmin. Glad to have received it. I shall certainly reconsider my posting address - I do not wish the same address to be made in the futile. Stroller. -- Enjoyed this post? Thanks for reading - please consider employing me! Technical support / system administration - CV available on request Linux / Unix / Windows / Mac OS X - UK or anywhere considered -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
Ok, I cannot admit that noone mentinned the single best Linux browser : galeon ;-) If not the best, it's the one I use. Works fine with flash, java, and can link mailto:; to evolution, mutt (or whatever runs in a terminal)... Give it a try ! And don't forget about crossover plugin, it's inexpensive (compared to a full windows) and works like a charm on gentoo. It's not GPL, I know, but still better than using windows. Regards, Jonathan -- Rich bachelors should be heavily taxed. It is not fair that some men should be happier than others. -- Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
Mark Knecht wrote: Bryn, I have not seen this problem. I'm on a slightly newer gentoo release (1.4rc4) I'm running using shh -X -C -c blowfish remote_IP I'm Gentoo on both ends. I run Evolution multiple times every day with no big problems. I did write this list a week or two ago about the disconnection of ssh hanging on the local end, and needing to do a Ctrl-C to get around that. I got no responses, and the problem seems to have disappeared a few days ago. Cheers, Mark Mark, Thanks for the reply - I've done an emerge -u world recently, so we should be at or around the same versions, apart from the very basic stuff but this seems very ssh-specific. I've just confirmed it's not just X apps - even ls will do it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [2] 1889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ls FrozenPenguins.png foo.javashare shot0003.jpg Screenshot.png questframe shot0002.jpg [2]+ Stopped ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ The [2]+ Stopped occurs as a side effect of issuing ls - no kb interrupts sent. If you do anything on a terminal with a background ssh job, it stops. This just feels like a silly config issue to me but I can't see what I've done wrong! Also checked and it happens on a vanilla xterm or vt too. Cheers Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] stop continue merging
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 09:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Control-z is typically suspend. To later be resumed with the fg command. That might work. I've never suspended a compile myself so I can't say for sure. I use control-z a lot if I am reading my email and need to check something. It may or may not have deeper complication with more exotic programs. But if you find it works, by all means let me know. If you run the emerge under screen(1) you can pause it with Control-Z and later resume it from the same or even a different login session. Screen is great for managing long-running tasks that you might want to monitor from several places. Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Regarding your posts on the GUML
Stroller wrote: On 16/6/03 1:01 pm, Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we have a bit more context please? I have no idea where this thread came from! I've noticed that on your posts to the GUML, you advertise your want to be employed; Gizza job, mister..! ... However, I do not think it would be wise to advertise yourself as a sysadmin, then post to a ML with your root address. Pardon..? [snip] Erm... but, of course, I do. I rather assumed that would be obvious. Not if the account appears to be named 'root' - there's so many CVs in the pile these days it's just too easy to bin it on little things like that. I know it's a bad assumption but it's probably one I'd make just because of how it *looks*! It's not really THAT seemingly, Sir: [silva:~] stroller% host stellar.eclipse.co.uk stellar.eclipse.co.uk mail is handled (pri=10) by mx1.ex.eclipse.net.uk stellar.eclipse.co.uk mail is handled (pri=20) by mx2.ex.eclipse.net.uk [silva:~] stroller% nslookup stellar.eclipse.co.uk Server: gentoo.lan Address: 192.168.1.43 *** No address (A) records available for stellar.eclipse.co.uk [silva:~] stroller% As you can see, stellar.eclipse is virtually hosted. Is it really a risk for me to post using this address..? If I worked in Human Resources I'd never have got past 'Sir'. ;-) Cheers Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] play [amsn]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Or you could try (only if using alsa) to modprobe snd-pcm-oss, to give the alsa mixing a try. It'll behave like any other mixer, letting you use many processes playing at the same time to your sound card (same as artsd, esd, etc). I think this feature is not available in all cards, so i wouldn't bet anything. Regards, - -- Juan Ángel PGP key on pgp.rediris.es (8FAF18B7) or search on http://www.rediris.es/cert/servicios/keyserver/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7hEoaQjbS4+vGLcRArOvAJ9oLTxkQ0izL/f8olvxOi9sNXEoiwCff30R /IR6EMKCTsWjv+poF7psyqg= =q8YF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Very odd problem
I have a Gentoo box, (1.4rc3), where, for the last week, various random programs have been disappearing. I don't mean whole packages, if that were the case I could narrow it down to a problem in portage, but is it various random executables. Examples: /usr/bin/emerge /usr/bin/xargs /usr/bin/perl emerge is a symlink, and perl and xargs are actual binaries. I simply had to re-emerge the package they were in to restore them, but I could find _no_ reason why they are disappearing. I've run chkrootkit on this box.. nada, but again I can't really see how (more why), it would have been rooted... there's a pretty strong firewall in place, and there are other boxes that are easier to aquire, within the DMZ. Finally, it's not a lack of hard disk space. I run about 10 gentoo boxes, each running a different 'version' (read: age) of gentoo, and this one is one of the most solid so far, (with regards to how little help portage has required to keep the system up to date). The only oddity I have seen was just now as I downgraded gawk, portage finished the emerge, then stated this: (from memory:) --- Cleaning package x11-base/xfree-3.4k-r2 ... (unmerges xpm-3.4k-r2) ... done. --- That's not a typo, it really said xfree-3.4k-r2 I'll post a bug, but I just wanted to mention that here. Does anyone have any pointers? Cheers, MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
bryn wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: Bryn, I have not seen this problem. I'm on a slightly newer gentoo release (1.4rc4) I'm running using shh -X -C -c blowfish remote_IP I'm Gentoo on both ends. I run Evolution multiple times every day with no big problems. I did write this list a week or two ago about the disconnection of ssh hanging on the local end, and needing to do a Ctrl-C to get around that. I got no responses, and the problem seems to have disappeared a few days ago. Cheers, Mark Mark, Thanks for the reply - I've done an emerge -u world recently, so we should be at or around the same versions, apart from the very basic stuff but this seems very ssh-specific. I've just confirmed it's not just X apps - even ls will do it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [2] 1889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ls FrozenPenguins.png foo.javashare shot0003.jpg Screenshot.png questframe shot0002.jpg [2]+ Stopped ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ The [2]+ Stopped occurs as a side effect of issuing ls - no kb interrupts sent. No! the first ls has completed, thus the job has finished, thus it has stopped. The shell waits for the next prompt before it alerts you of this fact. If you do anything on a terminal with a background ssh job, it stops. This is simply because the background job has already finished. Try running it _not_ in the background, and see how long it takes to complete. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI issues
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:23:10PM -0400, wes chow wrote: unless you have a dvorak keyboard... I've been using dvorak and vim together for over two years now (writing this email with them as we speak). What's the issue? I have no problems using hljk for movement.. Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
MAL wrote: No! the first ls has completed, thus the job has finished, thus it has stopped. The shell waits for the next prompt before it alerts you of this fact. No, 'fraid not. Compare: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [2] 1889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ls FrozenPenguins.png foo.javashare shot0003.jpg Screenshot.png questframe shot0002.jpg [2]+ Stopped ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ with: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ls / /dev/null [3] 1048 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ [3] Donels / /dev/null A stopped job is one who's execution is suspended by the shell. It would return 'Done' if the job had completed. The use of ls was merely an example to demonstrate; ls -lR takes quite a while on my home directory on hex! The problem I was refering to was background ssh jobs spontaneously stopping just because I ran another command or hit enter. This is simply because the background job has already finished. Try running it _not_ in the background, and see how long it takes to complete. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ fc 465 time ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [3] 3439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ real0m3.342s user0m0.290s sys 0m0.115s Long enough to see the problem I'm referring to - maybe this example with gimp makes it clearer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ssh hex gimp [3] 3443 (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ [3]+ Stopped ssh hex gimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ bg [3]+ ssh hex gimp (2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ [3]+ Stopped ssh hex gimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ All I did at (1) (2) was hit enter. I'm using a normal UK keyboard keymap so I don't think the KB is spitting out funny chars... I can work around this locally by using the -f switch because I use public key logins, but this will break keyboard logins for remote sites. Cheers Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
On Monday 16 June 2003 09:19 am, Chris I wrote: I did: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv evolution and got: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-mail/evolution-1.2.4 +ssl +nls +mozilla -ldap - doc +spell -pda -ipv6 -kerberos +kde Okay. Then I added +ssl +nls +mozilla -ldap -doc +spell -pda -ipv6 - kerberos +kde to my USE in /etc/make.conf Why did you do this??? I was under the impression that I'd have to. Well, apparently I was wrong. How do I figure out which USE variables are required for any given program to emerge? Thanks, Brett! Brett touched on this a bit, but I thought I would try to make this a little more clear. Absolutely no USE flags are _required_, they are all optional. Some are turned on by default, and others are off by default. You can find out what use flags you are using by running this command: emerge info | grep USE setting your USE flags in make.conf adds onto the default useflags. for example, arts is enabled by default, but I do not wish to have support for it, so I've put -arts into USE in /etc/make.conf. Basically, putting XYZ will enable support for XYZ if the program you are emerging has support for it. As for the line you did, the -v tag is verbose. After each ebuild listing, it tells you what USE flags will affect the program. +ssl +nls +mozilla -ldap -doc +spell -pda -ipv6 -kerberos +kde That means that evolution will be compiled with support for ssl, nls, mozilla, spell, and kde, but it will not have any features for ldap, doc, pda, ipv6, or kerberos. You really would never need to change your use flags, but it is often a good idea, say, if you buy a palm pilot, you can put pda in your USE flag so some programs will have support for it. Thank you, Chris! Now I understand. Took quite a while ... I'm getting old ... ;-) then I emerged evolution with: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge evolution It installed fine but when I try to run it, it just shows the splash screen, nothing else. What did I do wrong? Did you have a previous version of evolution set up for your user? No. I nerver succeeded installing a functioning version. Some people have trouble getting it to work, and others have none. Unfortunately I'm not using evolution, so I can't really comment too much on it. it might be some conflicting setting in your ~/evolution directory. try moving it to evolution.backup and seeing if evo runs then. Same thing. Just the splash appears, and it has to be killed to remove it. Closing doesn't work either. BTW, galeon doesn't start either. Is there a connection? I think there might be, what version of galeon? 1.2.10 -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
bryn wrote: MAL wrote: No! the first ls has completed, thus the job has finished, thus it has stopped. The shell waits for the next prompt before it alerts you of this fact. No, 'fraid not. Compare: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [2] 1889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ls FrozenPenguins.png foo.javashare shot0003.jpg Screenshot.png questframe shot0002.jpg [2]+ Stopped ssh hex ls -lR /dev/null 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ with: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ ls / /dev/null [3] 1048 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ [3] Donels / /dev/null A stopped job is one who's execution is suspended by the shell. It would return 'Done' if the job had completed. The use of ls was merely an example to demonstrate; ls -lR takes quite a while on my home directory on hex! I never disputed that it was stopping as opposed to completing, I was merely mentioning explaining how the shell printed it's stopped response, and that you could run it _not_ in the background to possibly find out the reason why it was stopping.. does it only happen when run in the background? MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
You're welcome! On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:21:25 -0700 Klaus D. Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 16 June 2003 09:19 am, Chris I wrote: I did: Thanks, Brett! Brett touched on this a bit, but I thought I would try to make this a little more clear. Absolutely no USE flags are -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI issues
No real problem, but hjkl was certainly chosen because of the proximity of those 4 keys on the qwerty keyboard. Wes (in the process of converting to dvorak) On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Owen Gunden wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:23:10PM -0400, wes chow wrote: unless you have a dvorak keyboard... I've been using dvorak and vim together for over two years now (writing this email with them as we speak). What's the issue? I have no problems using hljk for movement.. Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
The [2]+ Stopped occurs as a side effect of issuing ls - no kb interrupts sent. No! the first ls has completed, thus the job has finished, thus it has stopped. It hadn't completed, I was just pointing out that (completed|finished)!=stopped. I never disputed that it was stopping as opposed to completing, I was merely mentioning explaining how the shell printed it's stopped response, and that you could run it _not_ in the background to possibly find out the reason why it was stopping.. does it only happen when run in the background? No, this is an issue which only affects background ssh processes. If I run the same app locally, or in the foreground, no problem. Thing is I often want to log into a machine, open a few X apps in the background and check things out, close them down and log out. I just noticed tho that this effects another machine here running redhat a different version of ssh so maybe this is a 'feature'. The -f switch redirects stdin from /dev/null, which is fine for the boxes here which don't need a password but less good for remote ones where I don't control the login method. I've not long had bandwidth here to make it worth running X apps remotely so this has only just become an issue so I guess I'll go check in the ssh archives see if it's been a problem for anyone else. Cheers Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org
On Monday 16 June 2003 06:58 am, Tom Allison wrote: William F Pearson III wrote: Open Office takes so much time because it is huge. I wasn't prepared for the wait when I first emerged it either. I can understand that, but you have to recognize something that's a little different. When I emerge I measure it in days. Generally, I emerge right before I go to bed or leave for work. But never haphazardly, which is something that other distributions allow you to do with impunity. Using something like Debian or Suse, I think nothing of adding in another Window Manager, test driving open office, or just throwing up my arms and reinstalling from scratch. But when it takes 8 hours to install XFree86 and 6 hours to bootstrap, I tend to be more careful about what I install. I did an 'emerge -e world' and it took something just under 24 hours to finish. I think Gentoo has a great potential. Sure it takes time, but the arguement is, how often do you really install Open Office? Now that you have it done once, anything further can be done during the night when it won't be noticed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list You could emerge openoffice-bin. It's a precompiled binary. The full build resulted in a broken install that I couldn't fix. I had to emerge -C openoffice and then manually remove all Oo files and folders. Then the openoffice-bin took 5 minutes as compared to 5 hours. Sure, it's not optomised for my hardware but for all the time I spend running Oo, it will take me years to loose back that 4 hours and 55 minutes. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
bryn wrote: The [2]+ Stopped occurs as a side effect of issuing ls - no kb interrupts sent. No! the first ls has completed, thus the job has finished, thus it has stopped. It hadn't completed, I was just pointing out that (completed|finished)!=stopped. I never disputed that it was stopping as opposed to completing, I was merely mentioning explaining how the shell printed it's stopped response, and that you could run it _not_ in the background to possibly find out the reason why it was stopping.. does it only happen when run in the background? No, this is an issue which only affects background ssh processes. If I run the same app locally, or in the foreground, no problem. Thing is I often want to log into a machine, open a few X apps in the background and check things out, close them down and log out. I just noticed tho that this effects another machine here running redhat a different version of ssh so maybe this is a 'feature'. The -f switch redirects stdin from /dev/null, which is fine for the boxes here which don't need a password but less good for remote ones where I don't control the login method. I've not long had bandwidth here to make it worth running X apps remotely so this has only just become an issue so I guess I'll go check in the ssh archives see if it's been a problem for anyone else. Sorry if you didn't get what I meant. try: $(ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] command) MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem?
* fLokNo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-2003 18:49]: i had a similar problem when the cable was broken and sometimes wasn't able to send things to the pc. when moving or bending the cable works or prevents the mouse from working, this could be your problem too. the spot i bent was right next to the case of the mouse where the buttons are. Ok, thanks to everyone. I'm using an old serial mouse I had at home, and will be buying a new optical one by next week. I'll let everyone know if things work fine. Btw, the serial is working like a charm (tested on X, no gpm testing yet), so I'm guessing this should be just a mouse issue. -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ UIN: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local ebuilds and new releases in portage
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 02:31:17PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 15 Jun 2003 12:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When this new version appears in portage, how can I have it automatically replacing my local ebuild? Don't worry, it will do that by itself. Are you sure about that? It sounds like he wants the gentoo version of icewm-1.2.8 to override his local version of icewm-1.2.8 (same version/revision) when it comes out. AFAIK any ebuilds in your PORTDIR_OVERLAY will continue to take precedence over the gentoo ebuilds unless the gentoo version or revision is newer. Maybe negative revisions or something creative like that would solve this problem? Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keeps stopping!
MAL wrote: bryn wrote: The [2]+ Stopped occurs as a side effect of issuing ls - no kb interrupts sent. No! the first ls has completed, thus the job has finished, thus it has stopped. It hadn't completed, I was just pointing out that (completed|finished)!=stopped. Sorry if you didn't get what I meant. try: $(ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] command) Sorry, no I don't get what you mean. What has running ssh inside a bash command substitution have to do with the problem I was asking about? It behaves oddly because it gets run in a sub-shell. When I say this 'happens as a side effect of issuing ls', like I said, that was an example. It indicated the point in the process when it happened, I wasn't trying to say that that's the cause of the problem. I've also just checked and the problem is independent of the shell - csh shows the same behaviour. Anyway, this is all kinda academic as I just tried ssh'ing an account which needs a password while using the -f switch. According to the man page this won't work but it appears to go just fine. Problem Solved. Bryn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
I had the same problem with an existing installation of Evolution 1.2.4. My problems started with Evolution taking an extremely long time to download the last message from a POP3 server (30 minutes on a cable modem connection). A week after that incident, it did it again. I canceled the mail retrieval, and Evolution froze. I used xkill to kill Evolution, and the next time I started Evolution I had your problem. Nothing fixed it, not even rebuilding everything I could think of related to Evolution (including rebuilding Evolution, and re-prelinking my entire system). I gave up and used KMail for three days, leaving a copy of my messages on the server. When I got near my server's quota, I tried Evolution again and it worked fine. I've been using it for one week since without issue. I have no idea what could be going on, I just hope the Evolution 1.4 ebuild stabilizes soon. -Robert H. Haener IV
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo/m68k
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 20:00, Zach Lowry wrote: I realize that m68k is 10-years old, but it still has several uses, The m68k is a lot older than ten years! I was programming 68000's back in 1979-1980 and had a job porting V7 UNIX to them in 1983. Seth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
hi, for starting Evo 1.4 under Gentoo, please rename or remove the ~/.gconf and .gconfd directory in the homes After that, Evo starts. On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 00:49, Robert H. Haener IV wrote: I had the same problem with an existing installation of Evolution 1.2.4. My -- cu denny Gnupg key can be found under pgp.mit.edu, key ID 0x73137598 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Strange Magic.
Trying to emerge -u kde. I get... tbz2tool: inf.xpak doesn't exist mv: cannot stat `kdebase-3.1.2.tbz2': No such file or directory Done. !!! CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, aborting... What does this mean? -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution won't start
evo keeps a number of applications running in the background that an xkill wont touch. killev as the user will remove them (and evo as well, cleaner than xkill!). In some cases, log out and an oaf-slay is required, but I havent had to use that since the early days. Note that oaf-slay can/will upset gnome sessions as well., so log out first. evo does some strange things at times, but is still a great app! BillK On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 06:49, Robert H. Haener IV wrote: I had the same problem with an existing installation of Evolution 1.2.4. My problems started with Evolution taking an extremely long time to download the last message from a POP3 server (30 minutes on a cable modem connection). A week after that incident, it did it again. I canceled the mail retrieval, and Evolution froze. I used xkill to kill Evolution, and the next time I started Evolution I had your problem. Nothing fixed it, not even rebuilding everything I could think of related to Evolution (including rebuilding Evolution, and re-prelinking my entire system). I gave up and used KMail for three days, leaving a copy of my messages on the server. When I got near my server's quota, I tried Evolution again and it worked fine. I've been using it for one week since without issue. I have no idea what could be going on, I just hope the Evolution 1.4 ebuild stabilizes soon. -Robert H. Haener IV -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local ebuilds and new releases in portage
On Monday 16 Jun 2003 23:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When this new version appears in portage, how can I have it automatically replacing my local ebuild? Don't worry, it will do that by itself. Are you sure about that? It sounds like he wants the gentoo version of icewm-1.2.8 to override his local version of icewm-1.2.8 (same version/revision) when it comes out. That is exactly what I want. The Gentoo version of icewm-1.2.8 will override your local version of icewm-1.2.8 when it comes out, unless you touch the local version to make it newer. Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.2.9 kernel-2.4.21_rc8-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning
You might want to give Arson a try.. As well as k3b as has been mentioned a few times. They are the two best cdr frontends I've found so far, and I think I've tried all of them now ;) On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 22:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Gëzim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I_m just trying to get my cd-rw working, I merged cdbakeoven, but for some reason it didn_t work and it_s hard to use. I_m looking for some cd burning software that_s very easy to use and nothing fancy/advanced; maybe something like Easy Cd-Creater [windows]. And hopefully I_ll get it working. Thanks, Zim __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo/m68k
On Monday 16 June 2003 09:49, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Lars Juel Nielsen wrote: Could be fun to install Gentoo on my A600 and A1200 :D Would this be possible? The Amiga 600 and 1200 did not have a MMU, at least not out-of-the-box. And, IIRC, you need a MMU to run another OS apart from AmigaOS on Amiga. Well if OS needs MMU like Linux then it can't be installed to vanilla A600 or A1200. If one has CPU card in them then it depends if that CPU has MMU or not. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo/m68k
On Monday 16 June 2003 02:49 am, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Lars Juel Nielsen wrote: Could be fun to install Gentoo on my A600 and A1200 :D Would this be possible? The Amiga 600 and 1200 did not have a MMU, at least not out-of-the-box. And, IIRC, you need a MMU to run another OS apart from AmigaOS on Amiga. There are projects out there that have ported Linux to MMU-less CPUs but, yea, for the most part you need either a 68020+MMU or a '030 or higher to run Linux. Another show stopper is the 68LC40's (or was it 680LC40?). They not only didn't have an FPU but some were b0rked and you couldn't use FPU emulation on them. A lot of the lower end '040 based Macs used them. Not sure about other 680x0 based systems. -- It's not easy being green. It takes way more food coloring than you'd think. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer @ startup
Do you actually need to do this? I find that if I run alsamixer, set volumes, exit, and then run 'alsactl store' my values seem to be set upon reboot. Would this work for you? On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 17:16, Meka[ni] wrote: How can I rc-update add default so that command set up volume of all sliders? I know how to do it with aumix but it doesn't control all of the sliders. Tnx ppl. :o) Meka[ni] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] swinging gnome-pilot
The package gnome-pilot on my machine is going back and forth between versions 0.1.71 and 2.0.9 everytime I do `emerge -u --deep world `. I think this is because gnome-pilot is not slotted and my evolution 1.2.4 still needs the old gnome-pilot. Is there any way to fix this? When is evolution 1.4 going to be unmasked? THanx a lot Spundun -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] evolution 1.4 compile error
I know its masked but I still tried to install it, perticularly I wanted to get rid of the gnome-pilot version shunting problem. But evolution doesnt compile for me.. (surprisingly it compiles for some other people on this list as I can see :( ). The error I get is this, Anybody know a workaround? Thanx Spundun - make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.0/work/evolution-1.4.0/e-util/ename' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -o test-ename-western-gtk test-ename-western-gtk.o libename.la -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lbonobo-2 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -llinc -lgthread-2.0 -lgal-2.0 -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lart_lgpl_2 -lxml2 -lpthread -lz -lm -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgal-2.0 -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lxml2 -lpthread -lz -lgnome-2 -lbonobo-2 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -llinc -lgthread-2.0 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lsoup-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lpthread -L/usr/lib/mozilla -ldl -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4 -lpthread ../../e-util/libeutil.la gcc -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -o .libs/test-ename-western-gtk test-ename-western-gtk.o -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic ./.libs/libename.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/mozilla ../../e-util/.libs/libeutil.so /usr/lib/libgal-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgnomeprintui-2-2.so /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgnomeprint-2-2.so /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so /usr/lib/libfreetype.so /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so /usr/lib/libjpeg.so -lSM -lICE /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so /usr/lib/libesd.so /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so /usr/lib/libxml2.so -lz -lrt /usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so /usr/lib/libpopt.so /usr/lib/liblinc.so -lssl -lcrypto /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so -lm /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so /usr/lib/libsoup-2.0.so /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -ldl -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib/evolution/1.4 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: .libs/test-ename-western-gtk: hidden symbol `fstat' in /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(fstat.oS) is referenced by DSO collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [test-ename-western-gtk] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.0/work/evolution-1.4.0/e-util/ename' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.0/work/evolution-1.4.0/e-util' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.0/work/evolution-1.4.0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 !!! ERROR: net-mail/evolution-1.4.0 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 150, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer @ startup
You don't. If you set them with alsamixer they will stay set. How can I rc-update add default so that command set up volume of all sliders? I know how to do it with aumix but it doesn't control all of the sliders. Tnx ppl. :o) Meka[ni] -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Top panel
Hi, I ve just installed gentoo with gnome. In the top of my desktop lies a panel with Applications and Actions menu. How can I configure that panel to be a side panel? It doesn t have a properties menu item as other panels. Where the configuration for those panels are stored? Seems that it is a 'feature' of Gnome2. AFAIK, from 2.0 ~ 2.2, gnome panel has two type. One of that is what you see on the top side of ur desktop. But starting from 2.3, panel is no longer has 'two type', one panel type for all panel. And some missing configuration option are back also. The dev of gnome is very fast, I hopen that, I have provide any wrong info. :) Lau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning
Thank you guys for recomending k3b, I got my cd-burner working which I never even tried in other distros :) --- Jeffrey Soldan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to give Arson a try.. As well as k3b as has been mentioned a few times. They are the two best cdr frontends I've found so far, and I think I've tried all of them now ;) On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 22:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Gëzim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I_m just trying to get my cd-rw working, I merged cdbakeoven, but for some reason it didn_t work and it_s hard to use. I_m looking for some cd burning software that_s very easy to use and nothing fancy/advanced; maybe something like Easy Cd-Creater [windows]. And hopefully I_ll get it working. Thanks, Zim __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 15:14, daniel wrote: On June 16, 2003 10:53 am, Larry Meadors wrote: What would be really great would be to bea able to do this... emerge mozilla-complete ...and have it do all this stuff for you. maybe this is a bit overdoing it, or maybe just wishful thinking, but it seems that the USE flags are getting a bit crazy in an attempt to solve this sort of thing. want flash in konqueror USE=motif etc. etc. why not something like this? have the USE flags for standard things, like X support. you don't want a bunch of gtk or qt stuff on your sever just 'cause you like nmap right? but for more detailed things, like flash in konqueror or realplayer plugins in mozilla, why not a basic yes/no question period?: # emerge -p mozilla Do you want flash? y Do you want real player? y Do you want some sucky plugin? n ...compiling list [ebuild N ] net-www/mozilla-1.3-r2 [ebuild N ] net-www/netscape-flash-6.0.79 [ebuild N ] media-video/realplayer-8-r5 the personalised settings can be stored somewhere locally that isn't affected by emerge sync and a single use previous settings question can be asked at upgrade time or even assumed with a switch. granted, you can't get too detailed with a setup like this, or people will be answering questions for hours, but for something as intimate (wrong word?) as web browsing, i would think that this sort of functionality would be very useful. any thoughts? Actually I have some thoughts. I accidentally sent this to Daniel instead of the list, but here goes again. if you do emerge -vp mozilla, what happens (for those of you who know, don't spoil the surprise!). # emerge -vp mozilla These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuildU ] net-www/mozilla-1.3-r2 [1.2.1-r5] +java +crypt -ipv6 +gtk2 +ssl -ldap +gnome -mozsvg +mozcalendar +mozaccess -mozinterfaceinfo -mozp3p -mozxmlterm -moznoirc -moznomail -moznocompose -moznoxft # So as you see, portage DOES know what affects the package. So I don't see the reason you can't either have an option like -askmewhatiwant (not that of course) or -askmewhatidon'twant and then it'll set temoporary USE options. I know this probably isn't the full set of what you want, but its something that could be definately useful. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.5.71-mm loosing mouse on KVM switch
Hi there. Anyone got a 2.5.* system on a KVM with another box? I have a problem that when I switch between the other box and my linux box, the mouse pointer will sometimes become lost (won't move) when you switch to linux (or sometimes windows). In linux I used to be able to fix this by simple hitting ctrl-alt-f1 to go to the console and then alt-f7 to get back to X and the cursor would be back (windows required a standby-restart or a reboot). Since upgraded to the latest mm-sources (trying to get my nforce2 board to work nicely for me) when I go from one box to the other via the KVM the mouse cursor is lost and won't come back, even with a full restart of X. Only a reboot will fix it. I'm assuming it's something to do with the new kbd/mouse subsystems that are in 2.5.*. Anyone else have this problem or know of how to fix it? The KVM is a two port Hawking if that means anything. Regards, alan -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Freshly installed 1.4, gdm login works only for root
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OT: so how big should a /tmp partision be?
Mine is 24MiB on tmpfs
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