Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot emerge openoffice

[Martin Carpella]

Heinrich Rebehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Why does emerge keep talking about 1.1.0-r2? I did an "emerge sync" today!

1.1.0-r2 is the latest stable, 1.1.0-r3 is ~x86 and 1.1.1b is still
masked.

> Also, as i know that compiling openoffice takes a long time, how can
> i install it from binary packages?

emerge openoffice-bin

HTH,
Martin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Compil error

[Spider]

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 00:49:20 +0100
Christophe Palanche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Spider wrote:
> 
> >libtool.
> >   we love libtool.
> > 
> >
> >grep "/var/tmp"  /usr/lib/*.la
> >


> it search the *.la in the  /var/tmp/portage/ at the copil. thanks

there shouldn't be any in /var/tmp, the problem is that libtool thought
to add /var/tmp/portage to the innards of your systems .la files, the
.la files are stored in /usr/lib.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: just a comment

[Matthias F. Brandstetter]

-- quoting Andrew Farmer --
> Don't know about you, but here (in the US) I can get an eMac (1GHz G4,
> 40GB HD, 128MB RAM) for $800 (or 1.98 ounces of gold, at current
> exchange rates). It's not a supercomputer, but it's still a decent
> machine.

Don't want to say anything against a Mac, I am sure they are great 
machines. But here in Austria you can get for ~640 Euro (thats equal to 
your $800) a normal PC with:

*) Intel P4 with 3GHz
*) 512 MB RAM
*) 80 GB HDD
*) DVD drive

etc. (just looked up a complete system)

If I would buy a new computer, I would think twice if I really want a Mac, 
if there is such a difference between Mac and PC for this price...

Greetings, Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] unusual installation ?

[raptor]

u mean over my existing distribution... i.e. owerwrite !?
isnt there danger to break something ?!


|On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:21, raptor wrote:
|> hi,
|> 
|> I want to reinstall my gentoo, the problem is that i want to reistall it as I work 
on my current gentoo w/o 
|> repartitioning...
|> 
|> Can I install gentoo on a directory under root...i.e.
|> 
|> 
|> chroot /mynewgentoo /bin/bash
|> 
|> then install as usual...what I should set in GRUB..
|> What about of the possibility when everything runs OK..
|> to move the whole installation into '/'
|> 
|-Forwarded Message- 
|From: Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2004
|Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:01:57 -0700
|
|Presuming that you have some addition disk space, i.e. an empy <> 5 gig
|partition (I don't ever create /boot), just download the stage 1-2-or-3
|2004 tarball and run the install, etc. from your existing system.  Even
|if you only have dialup, you can do the downloads (and eventually emerge
|-f...) overnight.  That way, you can browse the net, play mp3s, exchange
|emails, etc. from your existing system while building the new one.
|
|Also, you don't have to exit the chroot environment after building your
|basic system.  You can continue to build all the extras you need from
|the chroot environment.  The only thing I've found that doesn't work
|from chroot is the nvidia modueles.
|
|HTH,
|
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[gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Ralph Slooten]

Hiya all,

Maybe a bit off-topic, as it's laptop-related, but I'll try anyway. I
have a HP Pavilion ze4268 laptop since last year, and have been running
Gentoo on it since about the beginning. After a lot of searching around
I finally managed to get most features working with the 2.4.x series
kernels, however recently I upgraded to 2.6.3 and have lost some of the
multi-media hotkeys. I have 5 buttons at the top, 2 which still work,
the other 3 which don't anymore. They used to .. but anyway, I have
traced through dmesg the problem, and that's simply being the fact that
the keycode isn't understood, however it's description is Greek to me;-)

The below dmesg output is for a button that should have "243" as it's
keycode. Could anyone tell me how I'm actually supposed to set these
codes?

atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf3 on
isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e073 ' to make it
known.
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf3 on
isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e073 ' to make it
known.

I always used a combination of the omnibook kernel module, and hotkeys
with my own self_modified .def file, which worked for about 6 months
perfect.. until now, and I cannot work out the problem or how to set
them ;-)

Any help would be appreciated...

Greetings
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Scott Taylor]

This package is a kernel module. Original method to actually use it is
to download it from sourceforge, run its make script which in doing so
it calls the make from /usr/src/linux to build just this module and put
it in /lib/modules/version/kernel/drivers/char/omnibook.ko then modprobe
it and use it. Now I decide I want to change a usb driver or something
unrelated in the kernel. So I make modules_install. Doing that clears
out the lib/modules/... directory. So now I have to remember to go back
into the omnibook tree and make && make install it. Every time I rebuild
the kernel. And if I forget to do that and reboot, I can't see my
battery level or use the volume buttons...

There is a script that comes with the omnibook module that would
effectively integrate it like this for 2.4 kernels, though it would not
do so for 2.6, and the 2.6-style Kconfig files were not included. I did
submit these new/changed files upstream but have seen no response to it.
Even if it did have a script to cleanly add it to 2.6, that would still
be extra effort each time I grab a new rev of kernel. Having it here as
a patch, all I need to do is add one line to any current kernel ebuild
to get it to add this functionality to my kernel every time, and I don't
have to worry about forgetting to rebuild an outside kernel module every
time I change something in the kernel.

And if this makes someone else's life easier too, then so much the
better.


On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 07:06, Collins Richey wrote:
> Why is it necessary to "roll your own"?   Or is this patch something
> concocted by kernel developers and not yet released?   Are the kernel
> developers even aware of this problem (they should be)?  etc., etc.
> 
> I guess the point is: I hope this isn't just a one-off, and I hope that
> a more standard approach will come from this!?
> 
> My $.02.
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Re: [gentoo-user] incorporating bug fixes

[Ernie Schroder]

On Wednesday 25 February 2004 03:33 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Grendel wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Jason Stubbs uttered the following immortal
> > words,
> >
> >>I agree. But I would have assumed that, with your "superior
> >> intellect", you
> >
> > It actually is superior, My IQ ranks at 165, and I am a life
> > member of mensa.
> >
> >>would have noticed that all of those "soo" many choices have
> >> defaults. Even if you "handt" used bugzilla before, wouldn't you
> >> think that the defaults are there for a reason? It also
> >> specifically says to not change the assigned field if you don't
> >> know whom to assign it to. Isn't it obvious that the reason for
> >> this is because the default receiver is somebody(s) that can
> >> field the bugs correctly?
> >
> > Actually I registered, then I wanted to report a bug in which qt
> > 3.2 wouldnt compile if a previous qt was installed. However the
> > huge amount of options really confused me and I even read the
> > tutorial but still I gave up. I finally removed my earlier qt
> > libraries and then newer qt was able to compile cleanly.
> >
> > It certainly would have been much easier if some text which
> > explains everything like your statement above was there.
>
> Even with my not-so-superior intellect (I.Q. of 136), it was easy
> enough for me to file my first bug using the 'New' (not
> 'New-expert') option in the bar at the bottom of the screen, which
> guides you through creating a new bug. Everything is plainly laid
> out with sufficient (IMO) descriptions. You may not have seen this
> link, but give it a try

148 smart enough not to join mensa when invited. I found their 
members quite full of themselves.Just my $.02
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Re: [gentoo-user] deleting /dev/hda1 partition

[Huw Selley]

Hi, 

>but I've never really heard much about it
If you want to learn a little more about lvm try reading

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lvm/

Huw


On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 13:38, Aaron Walker wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 03:51, Christian Herzyk wrote:
> 
> > Have you thought of using LVM? I do not know you system layout, but you 
> > can only have 4 primary partitions, one of these will probably be the 
> > extended partition.
> > LVM allows you to have as many volumes as you need and even to resize 
> > them. Setting them up is quite easy and quick.
> > 
> > Christian
> > 
> 
> I've never messed with LVM.  I've heard of it, but I've never really
> heard much about it, what its for, etc...  are there any other
> advantages besides what you mentioned?
> 
> Aaron
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: just a comment

[Sami Samhuri]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 04:37, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> * rh (2004-02-24 08:02 +0100)

> 
> Linux and most of the GNU applications are better documented than any
> other Operating System (Mac, Windows, NetWare). Some commercial
> applications under Windows are better documented than those free
> "projects" on SourceForge or Freshmeat but that's because you pay for
> them a lot of money.
> 
> Thorsten

Heh... if you have a problem with Windows all you need to do is reboot.
Heck it might even reboot for you.  (This is meant as a joke, I'm not
trying to start an argument)

Sam


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[gabriel]

On February 26, 2004 11:13 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Paul Oldham wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> >>http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
> >>
> >>Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull
> >> my hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> >>
> >>Made my day sooo much better.
>
> A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your
> high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.

i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.

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[gentoo-user] mv system to different partition - fontserver failure

[Michele Alzetta]

I have finally rebuilt my gentoo box from scratch with all the new
things - 2.6 headers, 2.6.3 kernel, nptl etc. and it seems to be rock
solid (NB everything x86 except for headers which I've changed to x86 
in /usr/local/portage).

The whole thing is on one partition except for boot which is on a
separate partition; I have also created a functional lvm2 volume with
several partitions which are all empty and mounted on /mnt/new/foo at
the moment.

Situation now:

100 Mb /boot partition /dev/hda5
swap   /dev/hda6
600 Mb empty partition /dev/hda7
40 Gb empty LVM mounted on /mnt/new/foo 
20 Gb / partition with Gentoo system   /dev/hda9

So what I want to do is move the gentoo system by moving /usr /var /tmp
/opt /home /usr/local to the partitions on LVM and moving all that's
left on root to /dev/hda6, thus freeing /dev/hda9 for a rainy day  :-)
/boot wouldn't change.

I can't use dd for this as I have to move directories to partitions, not
copy complete partitions to partitions. However, cp -Rp does recursive
copies of files and directories and preserves uid and gid. So all that
is necessary is do all the cp -Rp /input-dir/* /output-dir/ commands,
then go into the new root partition and update /etc/fstab and add a
voice in /boot/grub/grub.conf for the photocopy system, giving me two
perfectly working and identical systems; after having checked that the
'new' system works I can just delete the old one and I'm done.
(I've often done this sort of thing in the past and it works).

In practice the 'photocopy' system boots and works, loads the lvm2
partitions ok, init proceeds until it comes to activating the fontserver
 at this point it has to reread the font directories as if the
fontserver had been newly installed (how does it know ? haven't I copied
all files ??) ... and then X won't load because the fontserver can't
find fixed fonts.

Has anyone else run into a similar problem ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Collins Richey]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 05:30:51 -0700
Scott Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've made my own tweaks to the omnibook, and been using this with
> great luck on my pavilion with 2.6.3:
> http://openpax.net/996-hpomnibook.patch
> which applies directly to the kernel, saving the hassle of using the
> original attempt at kernel integration which didn't work well with 2.6
> 

Just idle curiosity (I don't have an omnibook).

Why is it necessary to "roll your own"?   Or is this patch something
concocted by kernel developers and not yet released?   Are the kernel
developers even aware of this problem (they should be)?  etc., etc.

I guess the point is: I hope this isn't just a one-off, and I hope that
a more standard approach will come from this!?

My $.02.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: djbdns: adding additional domains?

[Greg Bolshaw]

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On Thursday 26 February 2004 5:15, sf wrote:
> Tom Caudron wrote:
> ...
>
> >>./add-alias ftp.kungfugamers.com 68.15.153.133
> >>make
> >
> > When I do:
> >>tinydns-get a ftp.kungfugamers.com
> >
> > I get the correct results.  It seems to have worked.  I moved on to
>
> Works because tinydns is authorative for kungfugamers.com.
>
> > adding www.daystromsolutions.com.
> >
> >>./add-alias www.daystromsolutions.com 68.15.153.133
> >>make
> >
> > but when I do
> >
> >>tinydns-get a www.daystromsolutions.com
> >
> > the results are not right.  All I get in response is:
> >
> > 1 www.daystromsolutions.com:
>
> Does not work because tinydns is not authorative for
> daystromsolutions.com.
>
> You must add SOA and NS records just as you did for kungfugamers.com.

Post your "data" file if you're still having problems. It's much easier 
to edit this file directly rather than using the add-* tools IMHO.

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Re: [gentoo-user] deleting /dev/hda1 partition

[Ward Poelmans]

Aaron Walker wrote:
 > I've never messed with LVM.  I've heard of it, but I've never really
> heard much about it, what its for, etc...  are there any other
> advantages besides what you mentioned?
You can easily make, remove and resize partitions. Without having
problems with your partition table because it is 1 big partition
divided in multiple virtual partitions called Logical Volume's.
For more: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/benefitsoflvmsmall.html

Ward.

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[gentoo-user] printers

[crane]

hello,
I have 2 printers each attached to their own hpjetdirect thingy.
the lexmark was really simple to get working with cups as I had a ppd file on
the cd and copied it to /usr/share/cups/model and there it is.
I am having trouble comprehending how to set up epson photo890.
the documentation I have found says use gimp-print.
gimp-print does indeed have this printer in it's printer setup gui but there
seems to be no way to tell it where the printer is. Or to "interegrate" it into
cups ??
Or find a .ppd file
There is a generic type epson printer in cups but it would be nice to do it
properly.

cheers

mick

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[gentoo-user] kde compile can not find qt library

[Kevin Gordon]

Any help with this problem would be much appreciated:

 /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX g++  -Wnon-virtual-dtor 
-Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -ansi 
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts 
-DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -Wformat-security 
-Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common  
-DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT 
-DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o libartskde.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.2/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/kde/3.2/lib  -no-undefined 
-Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -version-info 3:0:2 artskde.lo 
kioinputstream_impl.lo kplayobject.lo kplayobjectfactory.lo 
kartsfloatwatch.lo kartsdispatcher.lo kaudiorecordstream.lo 
kaudioplaystream.lo kartsserver.lo kdatarequest_impl.lo kaudioconverter.lo 
kvideowidget.lo kplayobjectcreator.lo 
kaudiomanagerplay.lo ../../kio/libkio.la -lqtmcop -lsoundserver_idl
grep: /var/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/image/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.la: No such file 
or directory
/bin/sed: can't read /var/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/image/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.la: 
No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/var/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/image/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.la' is 
not a valid libtool archive
make[3]: *** [libartskde.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.2.0/work/kdelibs-3.2.0/arts/kde'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.2.0/work/kdelibs-3.2.0/arts'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.2.0/work/kdelibs-3.2.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.0 failed.
!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 128, Exitcode 2
!!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make


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Re: [gentoo-user] Greetings from a possible new user!

[Daniel Drake]

Hi,

Alejandro Escalante Medina wrote:
Debian has a 
great packager but iit is and overly cryptic distribution for me yet, 
with a very difficult installer.

So, is it Gentoo a good distribution for me?
The Gentoo installation is long-winded, and quite complicated - there is no 
interface to help you do things, its all done by commands at the bash prompt. 
A typical install involves working with tools such as fdisk and chroot, and 
hand-editing quite a few config files. If you choose to go for compilation 
(e.g. stage1 or stage2) then you are probably in for quite a wait, depending 
on system spec.

I am a knowledgeable linux user, that's ok, but the problem is that I 
don't have too much spare time to fiddle with a distribution that's too 
harsh on the user.
I wouldn't really describe gentoo as harsh on the user, but yes, you will 
probably find that you do need to spend quite a bit of time setting things up. 
Especially during the installation and the few days that follow.

I have a personal web server I need to be up, running 
and secure. I'm not too much of a graphical user since I'm stuck with 
you-know-what for several reasons, though, I need an X desktop around to 
use several applications I like/need (guarddog, for instance).
Gentoo has a great package management system, installing things like this is a 
breeze.

Maybe Gentoo is a nice distro to try kernel 2.6 ;)
Thats another great thing about gentoo - it is very easy to get up a system 
running all of the "cutting-edge" stuff, e.g. kernel 2.6, udev, nptl, ...
In most cases, its no different from getting a system up and running with the 
"standard" tried and tested stuff.

Then... finally, what do you think? Should I change to Gentoo or follow 
my path to Fedora?
Give Gentoo a try. If you have enough hard disk space, you can install both 
and make a final decision at a later date. I guarantee that you will be 
impressed by gentoo, but if you are pushed for time, then the lengthy compiles 
and amount of time required to get things running as you want them may get to you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] unusual installation ?

[Collins Richey]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:25:46 +0200
raptor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> u mean over my existing distribution... i.e. owerwrite !?
> isnt there danger to break something ?!
> 
> 
> |On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:21, raptor wrote:
> |> hi,
> |> 
> |> I want to reinstall my gentoo, the problem is that i want to
> reistall it as I work on my current gentoo w/o |> repartitioning...
> |> 
> |> Can I install gentoo on a directory under root...i.e.
> |> 
> |> 
> |> chroot /mynewgentoo /bin/bash
> |> 
> |> then install as usual...what I should set in GRUB..
> |> What about of the possibility when everything runs OK..
> |> to move the whole installation into '/'
> |> 

I misread your initial post.  For best results, you should always keep a
spare partition or two for experimentation.  What you are proposing will
not work.  Even if you could get a new install done in a separate
directory, there is no way to boot this oddball setup.

Back to square one:

1. Why is it that you need to reinstall?  Why can't you just upgrade
what you have?

2. Harddrives are cheap.  Just buy another and do your install on
the second harddrive.  Thne you will have space to do decent backups,
for example.

HTH,

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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Error installing packages (CATEGORY info missing from info chunk)

[Andy Herrman]

Maybe try syncing first?
$ emerge sync
or
$ emerge rsync
I've gotten some really weird errors when emerging, and most were fixed 
by syncing.  If your ebuilds get corrupted (say an rsync fails partway 
through) then it can cause some strange errors.

Related question:  I've never really figured out what the difference 
between sync and rsync is.  Is there any, or are they just synonyms?

   -Andy

David Gümbel wrote:

Hello,





- whenever I try to emerge a new package, the installation process fails 
with the message

!!! CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, aborting...

This happens on a system that has been installed from a Gentoo i686 LiveCD 
(1.4) a while ago and is now "emerge rsync"ing and "emerge -U world"ing for 
the first time. The only packages that installed fine was the upgrade to 
portage-2.0.50-r1 and (after that) gentoolkit-0.2.0_pre6. Now I'm stuck... 
does anybody have an idea what is wrong there?

regards,



David



P.S. This is a complete output of "emerge ccache":

dix packages # emerge  ccache
Calculating dependencies ...done!
 

emerge (1 of 1) dev-util/ccache-2.3 to /
md5 src_uri ;-) ccache-2.3.tar.gz
Unpacking source...
Unpacking ccache-2.3.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/ccache-2.3/work
Source unpacked.
   

configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.
   If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used.
configure: Configuring ccache
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes
checking for library containing opendir... none required
checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes
checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... yes
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking ctype.h usability... yes
checking ctype.h presence... yes
checking for ctype.h... yes
checking for strings.h... (cached) yes
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking for string.h... (cached) yes
checking for realpath... yes
checking for snprintf... yes
checking for vsnprintf... yes
checking for vasprintf... yes
checking for asprintf... yes
checking for mkstemp... yes
checking for gethostname... yes
checking for compar_fn_t in stdlib.h... yes
checking for C99 vsnprintf... yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o ccache.o 
ccache.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o mdfour.o 
mdfour.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o hash.o hash.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o execute.o 
execute.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o util.o util.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o args.o args.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o stats.o 
stats.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o cleanup.o 
cleanup.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o snprintf.o 
snprintf.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I.   -c -o unify.o 
unify.c
gcc -O3 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -W -I. -o ccache ccache.o 
mdfour.o hash.o execute.o util.o args.o stats.o cleanup.o snprintf.o 
unify.o

 

Install ccache-2.3 into /var/tmp/portage/ccache-2.3/image/ category 
   

dev-util
man:
prepallstrip:
strip:
strip:
  usr/bin/ccache
 

Completed installing into /var/tmp/portage/ccache-2.3/image/
   

./
./usr/
./usr/bin/
./usr/bin/ccache
./usr/bin/ccache-config
./usr/share/
./usr/share/man/
./usr/share/man/man1/
./usr/share/man/man1/ccache.1.gz
./usr/share/doc/
./usr/share/doc/ccache-2.3/
./usr/share/doc/ccache-2.3/COPYING.gz
./usr/share/doc/ccache-2.3/README.gz
./usr/share/doc/ccache-2.3/html/
./usr/share/doc/ccache-2.3/html/ccache-man.html
./usr/share/doc/ccache-2.3/html/index.html
./usr/lib/
./usr/lib/ccache/
./usr/lib/ccache/bin/
./usr/lib/ccache/bin/.keep
./root/
./root/.ccache/
./root/.ccache/.keep
 

Done.
   

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[gentoo-user] Re: djbdns: adding additional domains?

[sf]

Tom Caudron wrote:
...
./add-alias ftp.kungfugamers.com 68.15.153.133
make


When I do:


tinydns-get a ftp.kungfugamers.com


I get the correct results.  It seems to have worked.  I moved on to
Works because tinydns is authorative for kungfugamers.com.

adding www.daystromsolutions.com.


./add-alias www.daystromsolutions.com 68.15.153.133
make


but when I do


tinydns-get a www.daystromsolutions.com


the results are not right.  All I get in response is:

1 www.daystromsolutions.com:
Does not work because tinydns is not authorative for daystromsolutions.com.

You must add SOA and NS records just as you did for kungfugamers.com.

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Compil error

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:56:22 +0100
Christophe Palanche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Spider wrote:
> 
> >begin  quote
> >On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:40:36 +0100
> >Christophe Palanche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>We have reemerge curl and the reference to /var/tmp/ disapear.
> >>Althought the reemerge of libfont and blibgimp, the libdir reference
> >
> >>always /var/tmp...
> >>C.P..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >so fontconfig and gimp are still issues.
> > What version of libtool is this?  emerge -vp libtool ,  reply with
> > thatinformation.
> >
> >//Spider
> >  
> >
> Sorry,
> 
> libtool 1.4.3-r3


okay, can you please send me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  a copy of the .la
files in question here.

//Spider

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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound on laptop

[Ric Messier]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Collin Starkweather wrote:
> 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] olsonco $ ls -al /dev/sound
>   total 0
>   drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 .
>   drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 ..
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] olsonco $
> 
> Where do I go from here?  I'm stumped.
> 

Have you set volume levels with a mixer of some sort?

Ric


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compact Flash problems

[Andy Herrman]

No luck so far.  Crashes as soon as I try to mount.  I'm attaching my 
ioports, iomem, and interrupts output from /proc from before and after 
plugging the card in.  Can anyone see a problem?  I couldn't, but then 
again I'm kind of new to this level of debugging.

I also boot off of knoppix and got it's values for those, though it 
didn't help much.  I did notice one interesting thing though.  In 
knoppix, the yenta-socket module is used.  From what I remember when 
trying to get pcmcia to work, yenta-socket is what you get if you 
compile pcmcia into the kernel, but i82365 is what you get from 
pcmcia-cs.  Could this be the culprit?  It seemed like knoppix was using 
pcmcia-cs, but maybe it was using both that and the kernel pcmcia 
stuff?  I was under the impression (from the pcmcia-cs docs) that this 
shouldn't be done.  Can it?

Maybe I'll try it later today.

   -Andy

Robert Morris wrote:

I'm not sure if you can or not, maybe someone else can answer that.
If you're wondering what IRQ's are being used in gentoo, just type 
`cat /proc/interrupts` in a shell to find out.
I just found the forum topic I was thinking of :
"Solved: complete freeze upon pcmcia-card insertion"
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=99753&highlight=pcmcia+solved
Hope that helps,
Robert
Andy Herrman writes:

Yea, I started a thread there too, as I hadn't gotten a response here 
for a bit.
I'll try that.  Is there any way I can get at the logs from when the 
crash occurred?  It looks like all the logs are cleared when I boot.
   -Andy
Robert Morris wrote:

You may want to run dmesg and see what IRQ the flash card is assigned,
and then see if there is conflict in gentoo.
If there is, you can tell pcmcia to skip that IRQ in
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts if I remember right.
I think I remember seeing a thread about this problem on the forums 
too.
You might want to try a search there.
Robert

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 19:18, Andy Herrman wrote:
 

Nope, no good.  I added pnp to my use flags and recompiled, but no 
good.
Any thoughts of checks I could do while in knoppix to see what's 
going on?  Like what settings or such I need?
   -Andy
Robert Morris wrote:

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 14:56, Andy Herrman wrote:

Here's a quick update.  I boot off of my knoppix CD and stuck the 
card in and it worked.  It looked like the pcmcia card manager 
detected it and loaded the right module (ide-cs.o).  I still 
can't tell what's happening when I plug it in in gentoo though, 
as the entire machine crashes.
Does anyone know what might be going on, or have suggestions as 
what I could try to do to fix it?
  -Andy
Andy Herrman wrote:  

I'm having some problems with my compact flash reader.  I have a 
PCMCIA adapter that should work with the ide-cs module.  
However, as soon as I plug it in the entire system freezes and I 
have to do a hard reboot.  I tried manually modprobing ide-cs 
before plugging it in but it didn't make a difference.
I was wondering, are there any kernel options I should enable 
for it to work?  It worked before on an older installation (I 
used it about a year ago, but not since), and it also works in 
windows, so I know it's not a hardware problem.  Any thoughts?
 -Andy


If you are using the pcmcia-cs ebuild, make sure you compiled it with
the 'pnp' USE flag. That fixed it for me.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Slow mouse...(solved)

[Budd, Tracy]

But why I don't know. I uncommented the line as suggested below, I changed
the
value from 128 to 512 with no effect, then miraculously the problem went
away.
No clue why.
Anyway, thanks to those who posted.
Regards,
-Tracy

-Original Message-
From: Manuel Pérez López 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Slow mouse...


On Wednesday 25 February 2004 14:45, Budd, Tracy wrote:
> After last night's emerge (unfortunately I don't remember what was in it)
> my mouse requires ALOT more physical movement per pixel moved on the
> screen. Not sure what happened but is there a way to set the mouse speed.
> BTW I am running XFCE4.
> Thanks,
> -Tracy


Perphaps you need restore your mouse resolution. Try to uncoment the line
Option "Resolution" "256"
(or write it)
into the apropiate section for the config file 
/etc/X11/XF86Config

By
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[gentoo-user] boot partition

[Jorge Almeida]

Hi, 

The Gentoo handbook suggests 32 M for the /boot partition. Is this
really necessary? My current /boot directory (not a partition) occupies
3.3M. Can someone think of a use for /boot that would require much more
space? I seem to recall that 100M were suggested (perhaps in the old
doc?).
And why should /boot be  a primary partition?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Matthias F. Brandstetter]

-- quoting Andrew Gaffney --
> A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's
> your high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.

1008,3 meters :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] incorporating bug fixes

[Matthias F. Brandstetter]

-- quoting Grendel --
> 1. I clicked on the "New" Link which is actually "New-Expert", and not
> "New-guided" which is listed in the bottom of the screen were o one who
> is submitting his first bug report would look.

What? If you visit bugs.gentoo.org there is a link under "Gentoo Linux 
Bugzilla" in BIG letters saying "Report a Bug - Using the guided format". 
Thats in the middle of the screen, not at the bottom.

So I really can't see the problem here...

-- 
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girls should stick to girls' sports, such as hot oil wrestling and
foxy boxing and such and such.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo compile times ?

[Collin Starkweather]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:30, AccuGreen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> i'm new to gentoo. I have emerged to it last weekend and I think its
> great. Thanks folks for that.
> 
> I'm wondering if there are any compile time lists around in the web,
> to get a feeling if it is worth starting a compilation or not.
> 
> Guess, why that thought come up ... :-)
> I emerged OpenOffice from source package (as the rest of my
> distribution) onn a Pentium4 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram. Current compilation took 4
> hours and it has still not finished. So I am wondering how long it will
> need to finish compilation as I need to do some stuff
> under windows right know.

I emerged it on a 2.2GHz P4 earlier this week and it took longer than 4
hours.  In fact, I think it took longer than my original `emerge system`
based on my (purely subjective) recollection.  Unfortunately I didn't
keep track since I went to bed, but my SWIG is that it's somewhere
between 4 and 8 hours.

-Collin

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[gentoo-user] I need a 2.6.3 kernel config file and grub.conf for Gentoo and i8200

[Daevid Vincent]

New to Gentoo, recently switching from RedHat8. I'm having all kinds of
issues with 2.6.3 kernel and Grub. I have a Dell i8200 notebook w/ Nvidia
GeForce. 

I can compile the 2.6.3 kernel no problem. I move it to /boot and edit
grub.conf. I am NOT using initrd. My root=/dev/hda3

When I reboot, I choose this kernel but I get either a "fractal" looking
window in the middle of the screen that seems to want to show some text, but
I can't see it. But if I type, I see a "cursor" blemish move around.

I have gotten a tiny penguin to show up, but all text was black on black.
Same thing as above.

In both cases, I cannot switch terminals either.

My 2.4.22 works fine.

What could be the problem??!


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Re: [gentoo-user] deleting /dev/hda1 partition

[crane]

Quoting Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Yeah, Linux is quite good like that. Similar to the way most basic *nix
> 
> programs don't care about a file's extension, mount checks the signature
> of 
> the file system from the first sector (I believe) instead of blindly 
> believing (or even checking) what it's labelled as.

I can report that it is possible to mke2fs -j and install gentoo on a /
partition marked as swap but grub will refuse to play with partition so marked =0)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo compile times ?

[Andrew Gaffney]

AccuGreen wrote:
Hi all,

i'm new to gentoo. I have emerged to it last weekend and I think its
great. Thanks folks for that.
I'm wondering if there are any compile time lists around in the web,
to get a feeling if it is worth starting a compilation or not.
Guess, why that thought come up ... :-)
I emerged OpenOffice from source package (as the rest of my
distribution) onn a Pentium4 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram. Current compilation took 4
hours and it has still not finished. So I am wondering how long it will
need to finish compilation as I need to do some stuff
under windows right know.
On your system, I'd give it another hour, maybe two.

To be honest I must say that compilation is running in term window using
gnome. So that might also be an issue.
Probably not.

Anyway, is there list available for gentoo-compile times ?
There's been talk of creating something like this, but there is not currently, AFAIK.

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[gentoo-user] Problems with Konqueror in KDE3.2

[Tiago Lima]

Hi,

Now my konqueror sometimes is showing a message box when I open a konqueror to 
explore my files... 

"Could not find mime type
application/octet-stream"

What is causing this ?

I noticed that when I go to Configure Konqueror > File associations and I 
choose anything in "applications" it show the same error... Are they 
connected ?

Anyone experiencing this ?

Please help...

Thanks in advance,
Tiago Lima

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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound on laptop (figured it out!)

[Collin Starkweather]

Many thanks to Andrew Farmer.  I emerged gnome-alsamixer and fired it up
and whaddya know ... all the channels were set to minimum volume with
mute enabled.  Now I'm getting more sound than I know what to do with.

Thanks to all who replied!

-Collin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Compil error

[Christophe Palanche]

Spider wrote:

okay, What version of libtool are you using? (emerge -vp libtool should

tell you)

those packages are curl, fontconfig and gimp. in order.  Does it help to
rebuild curl?  (does the reference to /var/tmp/ dissapear then?)
//Spider
 

Hello,
We have reemerge curl and the reference to /var/tmp/ disapear.
Althought the reemerge of libfont and blibgimp, the libdir reference 
always /var/tmp...
C.P..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Grendel]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Ralph Slooten uttered the following immortal words,


> atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
> atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on
> isa0060/serio0).

Actually this used to be silently ignored by the kernels earlier, but now 
the kernels are unmasking it, so that the xf86 people would fix it. 

Grendel

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Re: [gentoo-user] g-wrap info pages

[Christoph Gysin]

Wazow wrote:
This has continued for a couple of weeks now, but does not show after 
each emerge. Anybody can give any hints? Can I get rid of the warnings?
That happens if the supplied documentation is broken.
If you think you won't need the documentation for that package, simply remove 
the broken files by:

# rm /usr/share/info/g-wrap.info*

It won't affect any application.

bye, christoph

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[gentoo-user] Greetings from a possible new user!

[Alejandro Escalante Medina]

First of all, let me congratulate the developers of what seems to be the 
most exciting linux distribution nowdays.

I'm a Linux user from long time ago, when I started with Yggdrasil and 
Slackware, and kernel hadn't even reached version 1. Then I moved to RedHat 
and have stayed there till these days. RedHat has shifted its focus now and 
though Fedora is there, It looks to me that maybe it's time to move to 
other distribution. I have installed and used for some time Mandrake and 
Debian. What I dislike from Mandrake is the same thing I dislike from RH 
(bad dependency tracking mainly but I won't discuse because it is not my 
intention to bash any distro here). Debian has a great packager but iit is 
and overly cryptic distribution for me yet, with a very difficult 
installer. It is never up to date also.

So, is it Gentoo a good distribution for me?

I am a knowledgeable linux user, that's ok, but the problem is that I don't 
have too much spare time to fiddle with a distribution that's too harsh on 
the user. I have a personal web server I need to be up, running and secure. 
I'm not too much of a graphical user since I'm stuck with you-know-what for 
several reasons, though, I need an X desktop around to use several 
applications I like/need (guarddog, for instance). On the other hand, 
Gentoo's configurability, abundance of packages and the possibility of 
staying very up to date seems very attractive to me. Maybe Gentoo is a nice 
distro to try kernel 2.6 ;)

Then... finally, what do you think? Should I change to Gentoo or follow my 
path to Fedora?

Thanks in advance for your opinions,
Alejandro Escalante Medina
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Andrew Gaffney]

Paul Oldham wrote:
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:

http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html

Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
Made my day sooo much better.
A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your high score? 
I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo compile times ?

[AccuGreen]

Hi all,

i'm new to gentoo. I have emerged to it last weekend and I think its
great. Thanks folks for that.

I'm wondering if there are any compile time lists around in the web,
to get a feeling if it is worth starting a compilation or not.

Guess, why that thought come up ... :-)
I emerged OpenOffice from source package (as the rest of my
distribution) onn a Pentium4 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram. Current compilation took 4
hours and it has still not finished. So I am wondering how long it will
need to finish compilation as I need to do some stuff
under windows right know.

To be honest I must say that compilation is running in term window using
gnome. So that might also be an issue.

Anyway, is there list available for gentoo-compile times ?

Regards,
Thomas


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[gentoo-user] djbdns: adding additional domains?

[Tom Caudron]

I got great feedback last time I asked on this forum about DJBDNS, so I
figured I might try again.  :)

Late last year I set up DJBDNS on my home server to be authoritative for
www.kungfugamers.com, which is also run from my home server.

Now I'm trying to add a new domain.  I've purchased the domain about an
hour ago, so I know the record hans't propagated fully yet, but I wanted
to jump the gun a bit and set everything up on my side.  At the same
time, I decided to add a new subdomain for kungfugamers as well.  The
results weren't what I wanted.

I re-read the instructions at:

http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/run-server.html

And I followed them to add ftp.kungfugamers.com to tinydns as follows:

> ./add-alias ftp.kungfugamers.com 68.15.153.133
> make

When I do:

> tinydns-get a ftp.kungfugamers.com

I get the correct results.  It seems to have worked.  I moved on to
adding www.daystromsolutions.com.

> ./add-alias www.daystromsolutions.com 68.15.153.133
> make

but when I do

> tinydns-get a www.daystromsolutions.com

the results are not right.  All I get in response is:

1 www.daystromsolutions.com:

Which is not exactly a full return.  :(  I tried a dig against the dns
server

> dig @68.15.153.133 ftp.kungfugamers.com a
; <<>> DiG 9.2.2rc1 <<>> @68.15.153.133 ftp.kungfugamers.com a
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56537
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ftp.kungfugamers.com.  IN  A
 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
ftp.kungfugamers.com.   86400   IN  A   68.15.153.133
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
kungfugamers.com.   259200  IN  NS  a.ns.kungfugamers.com.
 
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.ns.kungfugamers.com.  259200  IN  A   68.15.153.133
 
;; Query time: 129 msec
;; SERVER: 68.15.153.133#53(68.15.153.133)
;; WHEN: Thu Feb 26 11:07:16 2004
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89

The FTP subdomain seems just fine, but doing the same against the new
www.daystromsolutions.com domain yields nothing but this:

> dig @68.15.153.133 www.daystromsolutions.com a
; <<>> DiG 9.2.2rc1 <<>> @68.15.153.133 www.daystromsolutions.com a
;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

Have I missed a step in adding a new domain to my tinydns setup?  Any
help or hints would be appreciated.

In short, all I'm trying to do is run multiple domains off of one box
from my home.  The current domain (and apparently all its subdomains)
works fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] incorporating bug fixes

[Grendel]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Matthias F. Brandstetter uttered the following...

> -- quoting Grendel --
> > It actually is superior, My IQ ranks at 165, and I am a life member of
> > mensa.
> 
> Wow Grendel, you're my man ... you must be the most intelligent guy I've 
> ever wrote to!

Not really there are far more greater individuals. Linus Pauling and bobby
fisher had ~ 175, and you see the IQ scale is such that there is a immense
difference between say 165 and 175. Ie a 175 person is a really a genius.

Really I was disappointed when my IQ was confirmed as 165 as I was
expecting far more.
 
> What I can't understand: How could it be that a guy with an IQ of only 132 
> (shame on me) like me was able to fill a bug report at first try (bug got 
> fixed 2 days later), but such a genius like you wasn't able to do that?
>
> Strange things happening here...
 
There were several reasons,
1. I clicked on the "New" Link which is actually "New-Expert", and not 
"New-guided" which is listed in the bottom of the screen were o one who is 
submitting his first bug report would look.

2. Time was of the essense, I was short of time and the new-expert was so 
complicated to figureout, for a first time submitter of bugzilla.

3. It was a simple problem where the latest qt (3.2 IIRC) was trying to 
link with the earlier version of qt(3.1), while compiling. So what I did 
was to rm the qt 3.1 libs and recompile the latest qt and it compiled 
perfectly as the old qt library was nto there to link to. So although I 
did not submit the bug report I figured out how to do it.

  
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Re: [gentoo-user] deleting /dev/hda1 partition

[Aaron Walker]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 03:51, Christian Herzyk wrote:

> Have you thought of using LVM? I do not know you system layout, but you 
> can only have 4 primary partitions, one of these will probably be the 
> extended partition.
> LVM allows you to have as many volumes as you need and even to resize 
> them. Setting them up is quite easy and quick.
> 
> Christian
> 

I've never messed with LVM.  I've heard of it, but I've never really
heard much about it, what its for, etc...  are there any other
advantages besides what you mentioned?

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT(?): PC Diagnostics

[Senectus -]

Three live CD distro's
http://overclockix.octeams.com/
http://www.sol-linux.com/Content/SoLdiag

http://www.stresslinux.org/

Never tried them myself..  Let us know how you find them...

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Re: [gentoo-user] g-wrap info pages

[Wazow]

Spider wrote:

Its a package that has installed incomplete/broken info pages
(documentation).   The solution is to fix this package so it doesn't do
it again.  Its not fatal, please file a bug about it stating the version
and the report here.


Done. Thanks for putting me upright. There was even a bug file on it 
before (see #42895), though without the version info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail functionality

[Mauro Faccenda]

Give mozilla mail a try. But the thing I most like in it is the junky 
mail controls (that is built in, and works great).

[]'s
   Mauro
Mike Williams wrote:

On Thursday 26 February 2004 20:10, Nick Dutton wrote:
 

Hello

I've just about made the switch to Gentoo, but I'm suffering a bit on
the mail front.
As a long-time TheBat! user I'm having trouble giving up some of its
features.  One in particular is the ablilty to delete messages from
the POP3 server from within a filter.
Specifically, I want to be able to leave important messages on the
server while removing list and SPAM content. KMail seems to only let
me do this as a global setting
   

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[gentoo-user] [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] incorporating bug fixes

[Andrej Kacian]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:43:17 +0100
"Matthias F. Brandstetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wow Grendel, you're my man ... you must be the most intelligent guy I've 
> ever wrote to!
> 
> What I can't understand: How could it be that a guy with an IQ of only 132 
> (shame on me) like me was able to fill a bug report at first try (bug got 
> fixed 2 days later), but such a genius like you wasn't able to do that?

This just goes to prove what I've been thinking for several years - your IQ
score only tells how well can you solve IQ tests. Nothing more, nothing less.
That said, I just don't understand people who are fond of their (high) IQ.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Konqueror in KDE3.2

[Redeeman]

i know a guy who had this once, i removed his ~/.kde and he started over
with configuration, that worked, on kde 3.1.4, but dont know about 3.2, i
use 3.2 here, and it works perfect. hope it helps you.

> Hi,
>
> Now my konqueror sometimes is showing a message box when I open a
> konqueror to
> explore my files...
>
> "Could not find mime type
> application/octet-stream"
>
> What is causing this ?
>
> I noticed that when I go to Configure Konqueror > File associations and I
> choose anything in "applications" it show the same error... Are they
> connected ?
>
> Anyone experiencing this ?
>
> Please help...
>
> Thanks in advance,
>   Tiago Lima
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[gentoo-user] /dev/mixer lost in thin air as of 2.6.3

[Gard Spreemann]

Hi. After changing from kernel 2.6.2 to 2.6.3-mm2, I've had a problem 
with /dev/mixer not working properly. Oddly enough, XMMS operates without any 
complaint, while TVtime and Kmix complain about the lack of a 
working /dev/mixer. I've heard of others experiencing this problem, but no 
solutions.
The right modules seem to be loaded:
Module  Size  Used by
snd_intel8x0   29124  1
snd_ac97_codec 60676  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart 6272  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi20480  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_pcm_oss49348  1
snd_pcm88512  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc  9476  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_timer  22464  1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss  17664  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd47940  8 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss

I noticed that there were quite a few ALSA changes from 2.6.2 to 2.6.3. Any 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Collin Starkweather]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 09:50, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Mozilla 1.6, Fluxbox, Esound, netscape-flash-6.0.79

I'm having problems as well.  (See my "No sound on laptop" post.)  I've
got esound and netscape-flash installed (latest and greatest) and it
looks like I've got all the right drivers installed but am getting nada
for sound.  XMMS (looking at the blur scope since I can't hear anything)
is hiccupping along when I try to play an MP3.  It's almost painful to
watch.

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Re: [gentoo-user] g-wrap info pages

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:46:40 +0100
Wazow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
>  * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
> install-info: warning: no info dir entry in
> `/usr/share/info/g-wrap.info-2.gz'
>  * Processed 486 info files; 3 errors.


What package owns /usr/share/info/g-wrap.info.gz ??

> This has continued for a couple of weeks now, but does not show after 
> each emerge. Anybody can give any hints? Can I get rid of the
> warnings?

Its a package that has installed incomplete/broken info pages
(documentation).   The solution is to fix this package so it doesn't do
it again.  Its not fatal, please file a bug about it stating the version
and the report here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Ralph Slooten]

Whoops, should have tried it first before posting. There seems to be no
difference here, as the keys sill aren't recognised (at least the
module is getting installed though, lol).

Mailer, Browser, and the volume work as before, however the 3 other keys
just produce the same kind of output I wrote earlier. Incidentally the 3
other buttons I have are known as: Shell, Idea and Help under hotkeys.
Pressing all 3 produces this output (along with maybe a possible cause
[XFree86 bug]):

atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. 
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf3 on
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e073 ' to make it known. 
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf3 on
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e073 ' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf0 on
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e070 ' to make it known. atkbd.c:
Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf0 on isa0060/serio0). 
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e070 ' to make it known. 
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf1 on
isa0060/serio0). 
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e071 ' to make it known. 
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf1 on
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e071 ' to make it known.

(Hope you can read the formatting ;-) )

Any ideas as it seems you Scott know what you are doing ;-) ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail functionality

[Mike Williams]

On Thursday 26 February 2004 20:10, Nick Dutton wrote:
> Hello
>
> I've just about made the switch to Gentoo, but I'm suffering a bit on
> the mail front.
>
> As a long-time TheBat! user I'm having trouble giving up some of its
> features.  One in particular is the ablilty to delete messages from
> the POP3 server from within a filter.
> Specifically, I want to be able to leave important messages on the
> server while removing list and SPAM content. KMail seems to only let
> me do this as a global setting
>
> Thanks in advance...

Aren't the 'POP3 Filters' there to do that? On the Tools menu.
Never used them myself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Compil error

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:40:36 +0100
Christophe Palanche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> Hello,
> We have reemerge curl and the reference to /var/tmp/ disapear.
> Althought the reemerge of libfont and blibgimp, the libdir reference 
> always /var/tmp...
> C.P..
> 


so fontconfig and gimp are still issues.
 What version of libtool is this?  emerge -vp libtool ,  reply with that
 information.

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P.S.: [gentoo-user] No sound on laptop

[Collin Starkweather]

The (edited) output of /proc/pci and lsmod are below my sig in case it
is helpful 

-me

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freak root # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
ohci_hcd   16516  0 
ehci_hcd   21764  0 
intel_agp  15260  1 
agpgart25896  1 intel_agp
uhci_hcd   27920  0 
snd_intel8x0   28712  0 
snd_ac97_codec 55172  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm80932  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_timer  20228  1 snd_pcm
gameport3712  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_page_alloc  9476  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 5760  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi19232  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  6408  1 snd_rawmidi
snd44388  7 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
3c59x  34344  0 
usbcore86108  5 ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
freak root # cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
  ... blah blah blah ...
  Bus  0, device  31, function  5:
Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 
2).
  IRQ 11.
  I/O at 0xd800 [0xd8ff].
  I/O at 0xdc80 [0xdcbf].
  ... blah blah blah ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Andrej Kacian]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:34:25 -0500
gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
> capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
> have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
> then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?

I have posted a patch for kdelibs-3.2.0 into Gentoo Bugzilla, which adds use of
"arts" USE flag, as the configure script for kdelibs supports "--without-arts"
option, but the official ebuild does not:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40295

As this is the only core kde ebuild I am using, I did not bother to patch other
ebuilds. Some volunteers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[gabriel]

On February 26, 2004 02:55 pm, Mental Patient wrote:
> Well, I have similar hardware, and have no issues with it. What kernel
> are you running? I'm using 2.6.3 with alsa drivers.

i'm running vanilla-sources 2.4.25 with oss drivers here @work.  my athlon800 
@home is running vanilla-2.4.25 with alsa and the performance is the same.

> Does doing any single one of these tasks work? IE: Can you play mp3's
> fine? When does everything get slow? If you think its kde related, try a
> simpler window manager and see how things work there.

i can play mp3s, videos and tv (all-in-wonder radeon @home) and i can even 
play them all at the same time without issue.

playing flash however gibbles my mp3s (can't test video & tv 'cause i'm 
@work).  the audio sort of "chunks" while my cpu load runs at about an 
average of 50% varying more with the movement on the screen than any sound 
events.  note that this happens with noatun and juk, as xmms somehow causes 
arts to explode at random.

i've used mozilla under windowmaker on my machine @home in the past and the 
flash worked flawlessly, which led me to believe that the issue was arts.  
but that doesn't help me since i can't figure out how to make it die and 
never come back and still have sound in flash.

ie. i've just now disabled the sound mixer in the kde control panel, and while 
xmms works great (no skips, even when playing that flash game), i also have 
no sound in the flash game, or any sound events.  i'm restricted to xmms & 
mplayer.

i think i hate arts

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Re: [gentoo-user] GDM only shows on my projector screen! Not Monitor! (duel head)

[Antony Stubbs]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 09:52, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 13:50, Antony Stubbs wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 01:01, Antony Stubbs wrote:
> > > I've looked around, read some mans and stuff but I can't figure out how
> > > to make it so gdm will load onto both screens, of even so it will load
> > > only to my secondary head which is my monitor. Of course I don't want to
> > > have to turn on my projector to log in! 
> > > Once gdm is loaded, it displays on the project, and I can move my mouse
> > > down, and the mouse appears on the monitor - with just a plain black
> > > background... Perhapes gdm should display on all 'displays' if there's
> > > more than one available?
> > > I've tried puttying DISPLAY=:0.1 in a few places and I've looked through
> > > some GDM config files but I can't find anything... 
> > > In X, everything gets displayed onto my :0.1 screen because at the
> > > beginning of my .xinitrc I've put DISPLAY=:0.1 ... But of course GDM
> > > gets loaded before this is read. How can I tell X on loading that I want
> > > everything on :0.1 ? 
> > > 
> > > Hope I've explained my problem clearly enough!
> > 
> > Just thought I'd say that I still haven't found a solution... :(
> > Is there anywhere else I can go to for help apart from the forums? I
> > tried gdm mailing list but no one seems to be listening?
> 
> I'm really guessing but does this work? gdm -display=:0.1
> 
> I think you can fiddle with passing -display to do what you want. just
> make the change permanent in ... that file where you specify gdm.
> 
> Sam

I think I've already tried that, but I did it again anyway and I get
this error:

Feb 27 09:05:01 [kernel] [fglrx:firegl_umm_init] *ERROR* UMM area
already initialized!

How ever this could be because I'm using old drivers (that was the only
way I could get the dual head working).

I don't think the error above is much to do with getting gdm on the
other screen...

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[gentoo-user] g-wrap info pages

[Wazow]

Hi,

I got the following message at the end of some emerges

Auto-cleaning packages ...

No outdated packages were found on your system.
 
 
 * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/g-wrap.info.gz'
install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/g-wrap.info-1.gz'
install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/g-wrap.info-2.gz'
 * Processed 486 info files; 3 errors.
This has continued for a couple of weeks now, but does not show after 
each emerge. Anybody can give any hints? Can I get rid of the warnings?

andrzej

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub: error 8

[David Hart]

On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:24:20PM -0600, Bill Jenkins wrote:

> I'll try anything, but let me be sure i have it exactly right.
> 
> ln -s /boot/grub/grub.conf  /boot/grub/menu.1st
> 
> is that it?

Change the number 1 (one) above to lower case l 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why don't I have /dev/dsp?

[Andrew Farmer]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:58:57 -0800, Spider muttered:
> begin  quote
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:39:23 -0800
> Collin Starkweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I don't think this will be quite so easy as my last post.  I recently
> > installed Gentoo on my Dell Inspiron 4150 and can't seem to get any
> > sound.  esd seems to be running as expected but nothing comes out the
> > speakers.
> > 
> > The culprit seems to be
> > 
> >   freak linux # ls -L -l /dev/dsp*
> >   ls: /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
> > 
> > but I don't know what to do about it.
> > 
> > The contents of /proc/pci and lsmod are included below in case that's
> > helpful.  I used genkernel to configure and build the kernel and,
> > according to my untrained eye, appropriate modules seem to be loaded. 

> Well, you need to modprobe :
>  snd_mixer_oss , snd_pcm_oss , and you should be ready to go.

If you've installed ALSA, esd should be able to run without OSS (/dev/dsp)
support. Check in alsamixer to see that your main output isn't muted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail functionality

[Matthias F. Brandstetter]

-- quoting Mike Williams --
> Aren't the 'POP3 Filters' there to do that? On the Tools menu.
> Never used them myself.

... yes, you can do with these POP3 filters exactly what the OP asked for.
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Re: [gentoo-user] incorporating bug fixes

[Matthias F. Brandstetter]

-- quoting Grendel --
> It actually is superior, My IQ ranks at 165, and I am a life member of
> mensa.

Wow Grendel, you're my man ... you must be the most intelligent guy I've 
ever wrote to!

What I can't understand: How could it be that a guy with an IQ of only 132 
(shame on me) like me was able to fill a bug report at first try (bug got 
fixed 2 days later), but such a genius like you wasn't able to do that?

Strange things happening here...

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[gentoo-user] KMail functionality

[Nick Dutton]

Hello

I've just about made the switch to Gentoo, but I'm suffering a bit on
the mail front.

As a long-time TheBat! user I'm having trouble giving up some of its
features.  One in particular is the ablilty to delete messages from
the POP3 server from within a filter.
Specifically, I want to be able to leave important messages on the
server while removing list and SPAM content. KMail seems to only let
me do this as a global setting

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compact Flash problems

[Andy Herrman]

Well, that helped a bit, but didn't completely fix it.  The machine 
doesn't crash when I plug the card in, though it does slow down for a 
few seconds.  However, as soon as I try to do anything with the device 
(even ls the directory in /dev to see what I should mount) the entire 
system freezes.
I'm guessing it's still a similar problem.  Going to keep poking at it.  
I'll post if I solve it.

   -Andy

Robert Morris wrote:

I'm not sure if you can or not, maybe someone else can answer that.
If you're wondering what IRQ's are being used in gentoo, just type 
`cat /proc/interrupts` in a shell to find out.
I just found the forum topic I was thinking of :
"Solved: complete freeze upon pcmcia-card insertion"
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=99753&highlight=pcmcia+solved
Hope that helps,
Robert
Andy Herrman writes:

Yea, I started a thread there too, as I hadn't gotten a response here 
for a bit.
I'll try that.  Is there any way I can get at the logs from when the 
crash occurred?  It looks like all the logs are cleared when I boot.
   -Andy
Robert Morris wrote:

You may want to run dmesg and see what IRQ the flash card is assigned,
and then see if there is conflict in gentoo.
If there is, you can tell pcmcia to skip that IRQ in
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts if I remember right.
I think I remember seeing a thread about this problem on the forums 
too.
You might want to try a search there.
Robert

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 19:18, Andy Herrman wrote:
 

Nope, no good.  I added pnp to my use flags and recompiled, but no 
good.
Any thoughts of checks I could do while in knoppix to see what's 
going on?  Like what settings or such I need?
   -Andy
Robert Morris wrote:

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 14:56, Andy Herrman wrote:

Here's a quick update.  I boot off of my knoppix CD and stuck the 
card in and it worked.  It looked like the pcmcia card manager 
detected it and loaded the right module (ide-cs.o).  I still 
can't tell what's happening when I plug it in in gentoo though, 
as the entire machine crashes.
Does anyone know what might be going on, or have suggestions as 
what I could try to do to fix it?
  -Andy
Andy Herrman wrote:  

I'm having some problems with my compact flash reader.  I have a 
PCMCIA adapter that should work with the ide-cs module.  
However, as soon as I plug it in the entire system freezes and I 
have to do a hard reboot.  I tried manually modprobing ide-cs 
before plugging it in but it didn't make a difference.
I was wondering, are there any kernel options I should enable 
for it to work?  It worked before on an older installation (I 
used it about a year ago, but not since), and it also works in 
windows, so I know it's not a hardware problem.  Any thoughts?
 -Andy


If you are using the pcmcia-cs ebuild, make sure you compiled it with
the 'pnp' USE flag. That fixed it for me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] printers

[crane]

Quoting Tyler Milam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You need to use foomatic to set up your Epson Photo 890. Try 
> 
>  foomatic-configure -s cups -p Epson-Stylus_Photo_890 -c
> file:/dev/usb/lp0 -n Epson -d gimp-print-ijs

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mick # foomatic-configure -s cups -p Epson-Stylus_Photo_890 -c
socket://10.0.0.31:9100 -n Epson -d gimp-print-ijs
Cannot read file /usr/share/foomatic/db/oldprinterids!
Cannot read file /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/Epson-Stylus_Photo_890.xml!
Cannot read file /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/Epson-Stylus_Photo_890.xml!
Printer file /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/Epson-Stylus_Photo_890.xml
corrupted, missing, or not readable!
Could not run "foomatic-combo-xml"/"foomatic-perl-data"! at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/Foomatic/DB.pm line 509.

tomorrow

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Ralph Slooten]

Ahhh, so what you are saying is that even though the omnibook module
(from the omke project) compiles and installs, it doesn't work (other
than the deletion thingy when reinstalling modules *ggg*)? Your one does
work I'm guessing?

Call me whatever, but I'm not a programer. I just like to know exactly
what such things do. Is it the omnibook module that provides the
key-codes, and hotkeys that provides the functions associated with them?
Is this assessment correct?

I'm currently rebuilding the patched kernel now (needed to change a few
minor things too + added the new Omnibook module)... If your patch
supplies a working module, does this mean it's a kernel fault, or an
omnibook (omke project) fault?

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:25:40 -0700
Scott Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This package is a kernel module. Original method to actually use it is
> to download it from sourceforge, run its make script which in doing so
> it calls the make from /usr/src/linux to build just this module and
> put it in /lib/modules/version/kernel/drivers/char/omnibook.ko then
> modprobe it and use it. Now I decide I want to change a usb driver or
> something unrelated in the kernel. So I make modules_install. Doing
> that clears out the lib/modules/... directory. So now I have to
> remember to go back into the omnibook tree and make && make install
> it. Every time I rebuild the kernel. And if I forget to do that and
> reboot, I can't see my battery level or use the volume buttons...
> 
> There is a script that comes with the omnibook module that would
> effectively integrate it like this for 2.4 kernels, though it would
> not do so for 2.6, and the 2.6-style Kconfig files were not included.
> I did submit these new/changed files upstream but have seen no
> response to it. Even if it did have a script to cleanly add it to 2.6,
> that would still be extra effort each time I grab a new rev of kernel.
> Having it here as a patch, all I need to do is add one line to any
> current kernel ebuild to get it to add this functionality to my kernel
> every time, and I don't have to worry about forgetting to rebuild an
> outside kernel module every time I change something in the kernel.
> 
> And if this makes someone else's life easier too, then so much the
> better.


Greetings
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license

[Bryn Hughes]

ALL the distro's are having this same problem though.  The current 
version of X works and is still available under the license it was 
released under.  There's nothing stopping anyone from continuing to 
work with it for the time being, it just means new versions aren't 
necessarily going to find their way in to gentoo or several other 
distros for that matter.  I don't think this is a case of saying "oh 
well, no more GUI" but we may be staring at the same version of X for a 
while.

Bryn

On Feb 26, 2004, at 3:15 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

I must agree that a gui is essential.  Without this, most of gentoo's
user base will disappear overnight, as it will be useless for any
desktop application.  Less users=less support, less development and
eventually oblivion.
BillK

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 00:05, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:57, Stewart wrote:
Yes, it is a major component. Nay, it is a critical component. 
Without a
GUI, we may as well write our source code on toilet paper and 
distribute
it to the developers to be used appropriately.

Graphical User Environment = Market Acceptance. Period.
You make the assumption that part of what makes Gentoo what it is, is
having X. This is not the case. It doesn't matter what you say about
market acceptance, if Gentoo is not provided by default with X 
(meaning
X is part of "system" in my interpretation), it is not a "major
component" of the "operating system."

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[gentoo-user] unusual installation ?

[raptor]

hi,

I want to reinstall my gentoo, the problem is that i want to reistall it as I work on 
my current gentoo w/o 
repartitioning...

Can I install gentoo on a directory under root...i.e.


chroot /mynewgentoo /bin/bash

then install as usual...what I should set in GRUB..
What about of the possibility when everything runs OK..
to move the whole installation into '/'



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Re: [gentoo-user] deleting /dev/hda1 partition

[Christian Herzyk]

Aaron Walker wrote:

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 08:16, Jason Stubbs wrote:

 

Why delete it?
You can create a file system directly in that partition.
Ie say you type
mkfs -t xfs /dev/hda1
That would create a xfs partition on /dev/had1 overwriting your ntfs.
 

Grendel's right in that you don't need to delete the partition and are able to 
re-format it with whatever file system you want. Though if you do it that 
way, you should also change the partition type from 7 (HPFS/NTFS) to 83 
(Linux). You can do this by:
   

To answer Grendel, the reason I want to delete it is because I don't
want all 25GB on one partition.  I'd like to maybe split that in half,
and use half of it for Gentoo, and then install FreeBSD on the other
half of that space, so that I have a BSD variant to test some code on.
 

Have you thought of using LVM? I do not know you system layout, but you 
can only have 4 primary partitions, one of these will probably be the 
extended partition.
LVM allows you to have as many volumes as you need and even to resize 
them. Setting them up is quite easy and quick.

Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems emerging xfsdump

[brettholcomb]

It's been bugged.  There's something wrong with the ebuild that makes it die.  So far 
no fix that I know of except to stay at the current level of xfsdump.  Check bugzilla.

> 
> From: Alkis Evlogimenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/02/26 Thu PM 05:34:22 GMT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] problems emerging xfsdump
> 
> >>> emerge (5 of 5) sys-fs/xfsdump-2.2.16 to /
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) xfsdump-2.2.16.src.tar.gz
> >>> Unpacking source...
> >>> Unpacking xfsdump-2.2.16.src.tar.gz
> to /home/tmp/portage/xfsdump-2.2.16/work
> >>> Source unpacked.
> configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.



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[gentoo-user] No sound on laptop

[Collin Starkweather]

I am trying to get sound to work on my laptop (a Dell Inspiron 4150) and
having absolutely no luck.

Thanks to Spider, I got /dev/dsp created when I modprobed snd_mixer_oss
and snd_pcm_oss.  Dunno why these weren't set up by genkernel since I
specified ALSA but at least I've got /dev/dsp now.

However I am still getting no sound.  It seems that all the right kernel
modules are loaded for the sound card, but when I start up XMMS it limps
along pretending to play something and I get nothing.  I used to be able
to `echo foo.raw > /dev/sound` but now /dev/sound is a directory

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] olsonco $ ls -al /dev/sound
  total 0
  drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 .
  drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 ..
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] olsonco $

Where do I go from here?  I'm stumped.

-Collin

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Andrew Gaffney]

gabriel wrote:
On February 26, 2004 11:13 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

Paul Oldham wrote:

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:

http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html

Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull
my hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
Made my day sooo much better.
A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your
high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.


i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.
Mozilla 1.6, Fluxbox, Esound, netscape-flash-6.0.79

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Mental Patient]

gabriel wrote:
k, i guess i'm still very much in the dark on the topic of audio in linux, but 
can someone explain to me what i'm missing in the following logic?

i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?

Yes, its capable of multiple opens, no you done need multiple 
/dev/dsp's, it should just work.

The kde control panel has arts settings IIRC. I dont really use kde on a 
regular basis.


all i want is to be able to play video/mp3 files and play flash movies with 
reasonable performance kde, but even on this sweet athlon 2500 w/ 512mb ram, 
i've not been able to get that.  please tell me i'm missing something.

Well, I have similar hardware, and have no issues with it. What kernel 
are you running? I'm using 2.6.3 with alsa drivers.

Does doing any single one of these tasks work? IE: Can you play mp3's 
fine? When does everything get slow? If you think its kde related, try a 
simpler window manager and see how things work there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition

[Andy Herrman]

I'm using grub and my boot partition (ALL of my linux partitions 
actually) are in an extended partition:

(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 0.000-38154.375 
megabytes
Disk label type: msdos 
MinorStart   End Type  Filesystem  Flags
1  0.031 31.376  primary   fat16  
2 31.377  10032.780  primary   ntfsboot
3  10032.781  20034.184  primary   fat32   lba
4  20034.185  38154.375  extended 
5  20034.215  20128.315  logical   ext3   
6  20128.346  33126.218  logical   ext3   
7  33126.249  33636.093  logical   linux-swap 
8  33636.125  38154.375  logical   ext3   
(parted)

hda5 is boot, 6 is root, 8 is home.

Should work fine with an extended/logical partition.  Not sure about 
lilo, but I think it works too.

   -Andy

Jorge Almeida wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Bryn Hughes wrote:

 

AFAIK grub/lilo cannot find the kernel if it is on a logical or 
extended partition, they specifically require the kernel to be on a 
primary regular partition.  On the ix86 platform using DOS disklabels 

   

I was convinced of the contrary, but it's probably a case of bad (human)
memory. I seemed to remember that I had RH7.3 on a logical partition.
Lilo on the MBR passed control to GRUB on the boot sector of that
partition, and GRUB would boot the kernel in the directory (not
partition) /boot. But I may be wrong.
Regards,
Jorge 

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Re: [gentoo-user] speedy

[Norberto Bensa]

Spider wrote:
> bug #42969

Thanks :-)

Regards,
Norberto

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Re: [gentoo-user] GDM only shows on my projector screen! Not Monitor! (duel head)

[Antony Stubbs]

On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 01:01, Antony Stubbs wrote:
> I've looked around, read some mans and stuff but I can't figure out how
> to make it so gdm will load onto both screens, of even so it will load
> only to my secondary head which is my monitor. Of course I don't want to
> have to turn on my projector to log in! 
> Once gdm is loaded, it displays on the project, and I can move my mouse
> down, and the mouse appears on the monitor - with just a plain black
> background... Perhapes gdm should display on all 'displays' if there's
> more than one available?
> I've tried puttying DISPLAY=:0.1 in a few places and I've looked through
> some GDM config files but I can't find anything... 
> In X, everything gets displayed onto my :0.1 screen because at the
> beginning of my .xinitrc I've put DISPLAY=:0.1 ... But of course GDM
> gets loaded before this is read. How can I tell X on loading that I want
> everything on :0.1 ? 
> 
> Hope I've explained my problem clearly enough!

Just thought I'd say that I still haven't found a solution... :(
Is there anywhere else I can go to for help apart from the forums? I
tried gdm mailing list but no one seems to be listening?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2004

[Gard Spreemann]

Thanks to all of you :-)
What about things such as the magical portage-ng I keep hearing about?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Paul Oldham]

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
>
> Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
> hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> 
> Made my day sooo much better.

Yeah, I really love having my browser window size hijacked to full
screen. Fsckwits :-(

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[gentoo-user] problems emerging xfsdump

[Alkis Evlogimenos]

>>> emerge (5 of 5) sys-fs/xfsdump-2.2.16 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) xfsdump-2.2.16.src.tar.gz
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking xfsdump-2.2.16.src.tar.gz
to /home/tmp/portage/xfsdump-2.2.16/work
>>> Source unpacked.
configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.
If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used.
checking for make... /usr/bin/make
checking for libtool... /usr/bin/libtool
checking for tar... /bin/tar
checking for gzip... /bin/gzip
checking for makedepend... /usr/X11R6/bin/makedepend
checking for awk... /bin/awk
checking for sed... /bin/sed
checking for echo... /bin/echo
checking for sort... /bin/sort
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for msgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for msgmerge... /usr/bin/msgmerge
checking for rpm... /bin/rpm
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... no
checking for sys/stat.h... no
checking for stdlib.h... no
checking for string.h... no
checking for memory.h... no
checking for strings.h... no
checking for inttypes.h... no
checking for stdint.h... no
checking for unistd.h... no
checking uuid.h usability... no
checking uuid.h presence... no
checking for uuid.h... no
checking uuid/uuid.h usability... no
checking uuid/uuid.h presence... yes
configure: WARNING: uuid/uuid.h: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: uuid/uuid.h: check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: uuid/uuid.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
checking for uuid/uuid.h... yes
checking for uuid_compare... no
checking for uuid_compare in -luuid... yes
checking ncurses.h usability... no
checking ncurses.h presence... yes
configure: WARNING: ncurses.h: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: ncurses.h: check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: ncurses.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
checking for ncurses.h... yes
checking for initscr in -lncurses... yes
checking for bad glibc/ncurses header interaction... ok
checking xfs/libxfs.h usability... no
checking xfs/libxfs.h presence... no
checking for xfs/libxfs.h... no

FATAL ERROR: cannot find a valid  header file.
Install or upgrade the XFS development package.
Alternatively, run "make install-dev" from the xfsprogs source.

!!! ERROR: sys-fs/xfsdump-2.2.16 failed.
!!! Function econf, Line 365, Exitcode 1
!!! econf failed

moro root # ls -l /usr/include/xfs/libxfs.h


I wonder where is this package looking for the header? Anyone experiencing
the same problems?

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Re: [gentoo-user] deleting /dev/hda1 partition

[Grendel]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Jason Stubbs uttered the following immortal words,

> Yeah, Linux is quite good like that. Similar to the way most basic *nix 
> programs don't care about a file's extension, mount checks the signature of 
> the file system from the first sector (I believe) instead of blindly 
> believing (or even checking) what it's labelled as.

Yes, thats why usually you can mount a filesystem without even specifying 
the type, linux automatically can guess the correct one.

Ie -t auto usually works for many fs's.

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[gentoo-user] emerge system fails

[larryB]

I am installing a fresh system on an x86 k6 300 MHz box.  How do I fix 
"emerge system" fail on groff 1.18.1-r4?  Here is a hand-copy of the 
failure:

make[2]: Entering directory 
'/var/tmp/protage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/contrib/mom'
test -d examples 
|| /var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/owrk/groff-1.18.1/mkinstalldirs 
examples
test -f penguin.ps || 
cp /var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/contrib/mom/examples/penguin.ps 
. 
GROFF_COMMAND_PREFIX=''; export GROFF_COMMAND_PREFIX; 
GROFF_BIN_PATH='echo /var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/src/roff/groff 
/var/tp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/src/roff/troff 
/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/src/devices/grops 
| sed -e 's|  *|:|g'`; export 
GROFF_BIN_PATH; 
/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/src/roff/groff/groff 
-F/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/font 
-F/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/font 
-M/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/tmac 
-M/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/tmac 
-M/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/contrib/mom -Tps 
-mom examples/letter.mom >examples/letter.ps
make[2]: *** [examples/letter.ps] Error 139
make[2]: Leaving directory 
'/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1/contrib/mom'
make[1]: *** [contrib/mom] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
'/var/tmp/portage/groff-1.18.1-r4/work/groff-1.18.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2

! ! !  ERROR: sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r4 failed.
! ! !  Function src_compile, Line 85 Exitcode 2
! ! !  (no error message)

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# Comments excluded
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=k6 -pipe"
CHOST="i586-pc-linux-gnu"
USE=""
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Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition

[Bryn Hughes]

On Feb 26, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Sami Samhuri wrote:

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:41, Jorge Almeida wrote:

I don't think you can boot from an extended partition directly 
without a
bootloader, such as GRUB.

I don't understand what you mean. I intend to install GRUB on the MBR.
Can /boot be a logical partition then? (Or do you mean a bootloader on
the boot sector of the logical partition?)
AFAIK grub/lilo cannot find the kernel if it is on a logical or 
extended partition, they specifically require the kernel to be on a 
primary regular partition.  On the ix86 platform using DOS disklabels 
you can have up to 4 primary partitions.  One of those 4 can be an 
extended partition which can then have many more partitions created 
within it.  grub/lilo can't go through that many levels of partitioning 
so they need /boot to be on one of the 4 primary partitions.

As for the size, I think 32M and 100M are reasonable seeing as most
drives are >=10G these days but if you want a smaller one, it's your
box. Even with 5 kernels on /boot you could probably get away with 
16M.
I think it's more of a "why not" situation where if it is ever needed
for whatever reason, it will be there.
I see. So there is no special reason, except perhaps keeping several
kernels? For example, is /boot/grub expected to get fat?
Exactly... You don't necessarily need much space there but with disk 
being so abundant these days it's safer to give more than you need just 
in case.  I personally wouldn't expect to need a boot partition much 
over 15 megs ever but who knows what the future may hold... a new boot 
loader could come around for instance which needs more space.

Bryn

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub: error 8

[Andrew Gaffney]

Bill Jenkins wrote:
How in the world did all you guys get gentoo working???  I can' t get it to
boot.
Grub gives me "error 8: kernel must be loaded before booting"
I've posted my grub.conf, /etc/fstab, output of parted.  I've compiled the
scsi driver for my card,
an adaptec 2940u2w, directly into the kernel. I even went into my /boot dir
and made a simlink:
ln -s  /boot/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r7 /boot/bzImage because I thought it
might be looking for something by that name.
(I may have it backward, but the link was named bzImage.)  I've been doing
this long enough to know that it's something simple
but I can't figure it out.
I'm about ready to throw up my hands and go back to redhat/debian/bsd, or
something that's merely difficult but not impossible.
What does your /boot/grub/grub.conf look like?

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Re: [gentoo-user] unusual installation ?

[Sami Samhuri]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:21, raptor wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I want to reinstall my gentoo, the problem is that i want to reistall it as I work 
> on my current gentoo w/o 
> repartitioning...
> 
> Can I install gentoo on a directory under root...i.e.
> 
> 
> chroot /mynewgentoo /bin/bash
> 
> then install as usual...what I should set in GRUB..
> What about of the possibility when everything runs OK..
> to move the whole installation into '/'
> 
-Forwarded Message- 
From: Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2004
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:01:57 -0700

Presuming that you have some addition disk space, i.e. an empy <> 5 gig
partition (I don't ever create /boot), just download the stage 1-2-or-3
2004 tarball and run the install, etc. from your existing system.  Even
if you only have dialup, you can do the downloads (and eventually emerge
-f...) overnight.  That way, you can browse the net, play mp3s, exchange
emails, etc. from your existing system while building the new one.

Also, you don't have to exit the chroot environment after building your
basic system.  You can continue to build all the extras you need from
the chroot environment.  The only thing I've found that doesn't work
from chroot is the nvidia modueles.

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[gentoo-user] grub: error 8

[Bill Jenkins]

How in the world did all you guys get gentoo working???  I can' t get it to
boot.
Grub gives me "error 8: kernel must be loaded before booting"
I've posted my grub.conf, /etc/fstab, output of parted.  I've compiled the
scsi driver for my card,
an adaptec 2940u2w, directly into the kernel. I even went into my /boot dir
and made a simlink:
ln -s  /boot/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r7 /boot/bzImage because I thought it
might be looking for something by that name.
(I may have it backward, but the link was named bzImage.)  I've been doing
this long enough to know that it's something simple
but I can't figure it out.

I'm about ready to throw up my hands and go back to redhat/debian/bsd, or
something that's merely difficult but not impossible.

many thanks,

Bill Jenkins
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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license

[William Kenworthy]

I must agree that a gui is essential.  Without this, most of gentoo's
user base will disappear overnight, as it will be useless for any
desktop application.  Less users=less support, less development and
eventually oblivion.

BillK

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 00:05, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:57, Stewart wrote:
> > Yes, it is a major component. Nay, it is a critical component. Without a 
> > GUI, we may as well write our source code on toilet paper and distribute 
> > it to the developers to be used appropriately.
> > 
> > Graphical User Environment = Market Acceptance. Period.
> 
> You make the assumption that part of what makes Gentoo what it is, is
> having X. This is not the case. It doesn't matter what you say about
> market acceptance, if Gentoo is not provided by default with X (meaning
> X is part of "system" in my interpretation), it is not a "major
> component" of the "operating system."
> 
> D


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo compile times ?

[Christian Bartl]

time emerge openoffice
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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license

[Daevid Vincent]

Okay, as a brand new hopeful user of Gentoo since yesterday, I feel
qualified to at least voice a "newb" opinion. I've used Linux for several
years. I was a pretty die-hard RedHat user until I heard all the positive
hype about Gentoo. I *knew* going into it that it would be a bit tricky to
setup. However, what I didn't really plan on, was just how annoying it is to
setup every freakin' thing on a box in a tedious manner. I was told the
stage-3 was the way to go, but I'm still compiling X and KDE and
whatever-the-fsck-else I need just to get a GUI, two days later. This has
several times made me want to chuck this installation out the window. The
only reason I haven't is because my 'geek friends' and coworkers are all
running it and keep quelling my pain by saying how nice it will be when I'm
done. And they often help me set things up when I'm beating my fists on my
notebook or extending a hand full of hair (recently pulled from my scalp).

For this distro to take off, the installation needs to radically be improved
and simplified, and the OOBE (out of box experience) needs to be improved by
an order of magnitude! I could have installed Fedora or any other distro and
been up and productive by now, or by yesterday for that matter.

I *really* like the concept of Gentoo and I *really* would like to see it
gain the market share it deserves. Portage/Emerge appears to be a very
powerful and intelligent idea. But 24-hour compile times on a Pentium4
2.0Ghz with 640MB RAM is just maddening, frustrating and ridiculous. I
thought Gentoo was supposed to use the binaries when it can? Surely someone
else out there has compiled KDE, X, etc. for a Pentium4 class machine... Why
isn't emerge getting them for me?!

*g*

Daevid Vincent
http://daevid.com
  

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license
> 
> We've ALREADY been staring at the same version of XFree for quite some
> time. It's not exactly the most progressive or actively developed
> package in the world. Its about time we see motivation for OTHER
> packages to get the spotlight, and breathe new life into an area that
> had been growing rather stale. Hooray for competition!
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 18:05, Bryn Hughes wrote:
> > ALL the distro's are having this same problem though.  The current 
> > version of X works and is still available under the license it was 
> > released under.  There's nothing stopping anyone from continuing to 
> > work with it for the time being, it just means new versions aren't 
> > necessarily going to find their way in to gentoo or several other 
> > distros for that matter.  I don't think this is a case of 
> saying "oh 
> > well, no more GUI" but we may be staring at the same 
> version of X for a 
> > while.
> > 
> > Bryn

> -Original Message-
> From: William Kenworthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:16 PM
> To: Donnie Berkholz
> Cc: gentoo-user List
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license
> 
> I must agree that a gui is essential.  Without this, most of gentoo's
> user base will disappear overnight, as it will be useless for any
> desktop application.  Less users=less support, less development and
> eventually oblivion.
> 
> BillK
> 
> On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 00:05, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:57, Stewart wrote:
> > > Yes, it is a major component. Nay, it is a critical 
> component. Without a 
> > > GUI, we may as well write our source code on toilet paper 
> and distribute 
> > > it to the developers to be used appropriately.
> > > 
> > > Graphical User Environment = Market Acceptance. Period.
> > 
> > You make the assumption that part of what makes Gentoo what 
> it is, is
> > having X. This is not the case. It doesn't matter what you say about
> > market acceptance, if Gentoo is not provided by default 
> with X (meaning
> > X is part of "system" in my interpretation), it is not a "major
> > component" of the "operating system."
> > 
> > D


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[gabriel]

On February 26, 2004 12:20 pm, Mental Patient wrote:
> gabriel wrote:
> > i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this
> > cartoon as flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has
> > always been absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance,
> > chunky redraw etc.
>
> I've found it to be less a gui issue, and more a hardware one. I have a
> fairly decent system at work, but it has a soundcard that can only
> handle a single open. If esd, or artsd is running, flash performs
> poorly. If I shut down anything using sound, its fine.
>
> At home I have a sound card that handles multiple opens. It never has
> this problem. See if /dev/dsp is busy when you're trying to use flash,
> then free it up and try again. See if that helps.

k, i guess i'm still very much in the dark on the topic of audio in linux, but 
can someone explain to me what i'm missing in the following logic?

i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?

all i want is to be able to play video/mp3 files and play flash movies with 
reasonable performance kde, but even on this sweet athlon 2500 w/ 512mb ram, 
i've not been able to get that.  please tell me i'm missing something.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GDM only shows on my projector screen! Not Monitor! (duel head)

[Sami Samhuri]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 13:50, Antony Stubbs wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 01:01, Antony Stubbs wrote:
> > I've looked around, read some mans and stuff but I can't figure out how
> > to make it so gdm will load onto both screens, of even so it will load
> > only to my secondary head which is my monitor. Of course I don't want to
> > have to turn on my projector to log in! 
> > Once gdm is loaded, it displays on the project, and I can move my mouse
> > down, and the mouse appears on the monitor - with just a plain black
> > background... Perhapes gdm should display on all 'displays' if there's
> > more than one available?
> > I've tried puttying DISPLAY=:0.1 in a few places and I've looked through
> > some GDM config files but I can't find anything... 
> > In X, everything gets displayed onto my :0.1 screen because at the
> > beginning of my .xinitrc I've put DISPLAY=:0.1 ... But of course GDM
> > gets loaded before this is read. How can I tell X on loading that I want
> > everything on :0.1 ? 
> > 
> > Hope I've explained my problem clearly enough!
> 
> Just thought I'd say that I still haven't found a solution... :(
> Is there anywhere else I can go to for help apart from the forums? I
> tried gdm mailing list but no one seems to be listening?

I'm really guessing but does this work? gdm -display=:0.1

I think you can fiddle with passing -display to do what you want. just
make the change permanent in ... that file where you specify gdm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub: error 8

[larryB]

On Thursday 26 February 2004 04:39 pm, Kathy Wills wrote:
> larryB wrote:
> >>I'm about ready to throw up my hands and go back to
> >>redhat/debian/bsd, or something that's merely difficult but not
> >>impossible.
> >>
> >>many thanks,
> >>
> >>Bill Jenkins
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> That's funny to me. I am not having that much trouble with gentoo.
> The problems I do run into, I can usually find my answers either
> here, in the forum, or http://bugs.gentoo.org. The time I tried Linux
> from scratch, I ran into problems compiling some of the basics and
> never did find an answer to solve it. I'll stick with Gentoo.

My problems are now solved, thanks to this list.

Kathy, thanks for the additional tip to check bugzilla.  There was 
nothing so useful when I was creating my Linux From Scratch (LFS) over 
a year ago (although there may be now).  I also had problems compiling 
some of LFS, but was able to resolve the problems myself with the 
configure or makefiles (sometimes using trial and error).  My LFS 
distro served me well until several hard disk crashes forced a new 
distro.  I chose Gentoo, and was rather frustrated with many hours of 
fruitless attempts using different install methods.  Thanks to this 
list, and the other help sources you have clued for me, my confidence 
is somewhat restored.

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Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 27 February 2004 11:32, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Bryn Hughes wrote:
> > On Feb 26, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> > AFAIK grub/lilo cannot find the kernel if it is on a logical or
> > extended partition, they specifically require the kernel to be on a
> > primary regular partition.
>
> Oh nononono. If you install GRUB on MBR it can boot from logical
> paritions (hd?x where x >=5) without problems. I guess LILO can do it to,
> but it's been a while since I used it last time...

I believe that lilo doesn't care about the partition. As far as I know, lilo 
just points directly to the sector that begins the kernel.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: just a comment

[Thorsten Kampe]

* rh (2004-02-24 08:02 +0100)
> I have been using Linux for a while now and have been a pretty strong
> advocate of it to many of my friends. However, lately I am getting very
> frustrated. Maybe it's because I am tired tonight and for some stupid
> reason am still sitting here trying to figure something out (a question
> I posted earlier with no responses).
> 
> But I have to say that even I am becoming frustrated with Linux and,
> God forbid, have contemplated changing my pure Linux box into one with a
> dual boot that includes windows. 
> 
> For the most part things work as they should but lately I have run into
> too many things that no matter if you follow the instructions letter by
> letter, it isn't going to work and will only work after hours of trial
> and error. I guess I am tired of trying to learn from badly written or
> outdated documentation.
> 
> I think that is what is frustrating me tonight is not so much Linux
> itself but the lack of proper documentation of Linux. I wish there
> were as many people working on updating docs as there is working on
> updating actual code.

Linux and most of the GNU applications are better documented than any
other Operating System (Mac, Windows, NetWare). Some commercial
applications under Windows are better documented than those free
"projects" on SourceForge or Freshmeat but that's because you pay for
them a lot of money.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

[Sami Samhuri]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:49, Paul Oldham wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> > http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
> >
> > Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
> > hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> > 
> > Made my day sooo much better.
> 
> Yeah, I really love having my browser window size hijacked to full
> screen. Fsckwits :-(

which browser? ... nothing like that happened to me. and I have JS etc.
enabled.

Sam


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub: error 8

[Linus harling]

Bill Jenkins wrote:

 

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
root (hd0,0)
   

Is your system a SCSI only system?
Are you sure that /dev/sda1 really is (hd0,0) in GRUB-speak (you have 
tab-completion in the grub-shell so you can fiddle around in there to 
find out)?

kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda2
   

What is the root=/dev/ram0 parameter for? I've never seen it before... I 
tried finding real_root in the online manual for grub, but I can't, what 
is it supposed to do?
Have you tried just putting root=/dev/sda2 instead?

init=linuxrc vga=0x317 splash=verbose
   

I think you can remove this line too and just go with (I'd skip the 
splash part too):

kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/sda2 vga=0x317

initrd (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r7
   

Don't you mean: initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-gentoo-r7?

My grub.conf would probably look something like this in your case:

#grub.conf for scsi-dude
default 0
timeout 10
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
Title= Linux 2.4.22
root=(hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/sda2 vga=792
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-gentoo-r7
#end grub.conf
Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo compile times ? (P.S.)

[AccuGreen]

> freak root # genlop -t openoffice
>  
>  * app-office/openoffice
>  
>  Merged   at Tue Feb 24 07:38:34 2004(openoffice-1.1.0-r2)
>merge time: 6 hours, 3 minutes and 11 seconds.
>  
>  merged totally 1 time in 6 hours, 3 minutes and 11 seconds.
>  
Argh... yeah I should have expected that.


Thanks for short help and the hint for "genlop".


When I have more time I look into gentoo doc and it's tools in more
detail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Greetings from a possible new user!

[purslow]

040226 Alejandro Escalante Medina wrote:
> First of all, let me congratulate the developers
> of what seems to be the most exciting linux distribution nowdays.

yes, it is & let's all of us repeat our thanx to the volunteer developers.

> I'm a Linux user from long time ago,
> when I started with Yggdrasil and Slackware
> and kernel hadn't even reached version 1.

well, you shdn't have any problems w Gentoo (grin).

> I am a knowledgeable linux user, but I don't have too much spare time
> to fiddle with a distribution that's too harsh on the user.

Gentoo is not harsh on the user -- it's v elegantly organised --
& once you've got it installed sensibly, you don't need to fiddle w it.

> Gentoo's configurability, abundance of packages
> and the possibility of staying v upto date seems v attractive to me.

yes, all that & it really is a meta-distro,
so you install what you want & keep it as upto-date or not as you want.

> Maybe Gentoo is a nice distro to try kernel 2.6 ;)

cb.

the one thing you need to do carefully is installing Gentoo:
it's not difficult, but you need to read the dox (they're v good)
& pay attention to each step as you do it; allow a free weekend.

then make sure you read the other dox & esp how Portage works.
after that, you shd have few problems
& there's lots of friendly advice both here & via the huge forum site.

of course, it helps to have a reasonably upto-date machine & broadband.

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Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition

[David Hart]

On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:44:59PM -0800, Bryn Hughes wrote:

> On Feb 26, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> 
> AFAIK grub/lilo cannot find the kernel if it is on a logical or 
> extended partition, they specifically require the kernel to be on a 
> primary regular partition.  On the ix86 platform using DOS disklabels 
[snip]

Not true!  Grub (and AFAIK lilo) can boot a kernel anywhere on the disk
up to the limit of the LBA addressing (~136MB with 28 bits).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotkeys / Omnibook on HP Pavilion with 2.6.3

[Scott Taylor]

I've made my own tweaks to the omnibook, and been using this with
great luck on my pavilion with 2.6.3:
http://openpax.net/996-hpomnibook.patch
which applies directly to the kernel, saving the hassle of using the
original attempt at kernel integration which didn't work well with 2.6

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 04:28, Ralph Slooten wrote:
> Hiya all,
> 
> Maybe a bit off-topic, as it's laptop-related, but I'll try anyway. I
> have a HP Pavilion ze4268 laptop since last year, and have been running
> Gentoo on it since about the beginning. After a lot of searching around
> I finally managed to get most features working with the 2.4.x series
> kernels, however recently I upgraded to 2.6.3 and have lost some of the
> multi-media hotkeys. I have 5 buttons at the top, 2 which still work,
> the other 3 which don't anymore. They used to .. but anyway, I have
> traced through dmesg the problem, and that's simply being the fact that
> the keycode isn't understood, however it's description is Greek to me;-)
> 
> The below dmesg output is for a button that should have "243" as it's
> keycode. Could anyone tell me how I'm actually supposed to set these
> codes?
> 
> atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf3 on
> isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e073 ' to make it
> known.
> atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf3 on
> isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e073 ' to make it
> known.
> 
> I always used a combination of the omnibook kernel module, and hotkeys
> with my own self_modified .def file, which worked for about 6 months
> perfect.. until now, and I cannot work out the problem or how to set
> them ;-)
> 
> Any help would be appreciated...
> 
> Greetings
> Ralph
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compact Flash problems

[Andy Herrman]

Robert Morris wrote:

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 09:24, Andy Herrman wrote:
 

No luck so far.  Crashes as soon as I try to mount.  I'm attaching my 
ioports, iomem, and interrupts output from /proc from before and after 
plugging the card in.  Can anyone see a problem?  I couldn't, but then 
again I'm kind of new to this level of debugging.

I also boot off of knoppix and got it's values for those, though it 
didn't help much.  I did notice one interesting thing though.  In 
knoppix, the yenta-socket module is used.  From what I remember when 
trying to get pcmcia to work, yenta-socket is what you get if you 
compile pcmcia into the kernel, but i82365 is what you get from 
pcmcia-cs.  Could this be the culprit?  It seemed like knoppix was using 
pcmcia-cs, but maybe it was using both that and the kernel pcmcia 
stuff?  I was under the impression (from the pcmcia-cs docs) that this 
shouldn't be done.  Can it?

Maybe I'll try it later today.

   -Andy

   

On my laptop (HP ze4240) It doesn't load yenta-socket either. The
modules that get loaded for me are :
i82365
pcmcia-core
ide-cs
ds
 

Yep, same modules as my machine uses.

It doesn't look like there is an interrupt conflict since the card is
showing up at irq 10 and using ports 0440-0447 and 044e, but you might
want to see if dmesg reports anything bad. It should also tell you where
in /dev it put your card. Mine shows up at /dev/hde.
 

Mine shows up as hdc, and in /dev/ide/host1/blah/blah/blah
dmesg shows:
hdc: LEXAR ATA FLASH, ATA DISK drive
ide1 at 0x440-0x447,0x44e on irq 10
hdc: 188928 sectors (97 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=738/8/32
/dev/ide/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
ide-cs: hdc: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
Something interesting I found.  In Knoppix (where the card works), dmesg 
has the following:
hdc: LEXAR ATA FLASH, CFA DISK drive
ide1 at 0x140-0x147,0x14e on irq 5
hdc: attached ide-disk driver.
hdc: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
hdc: 188928 sectors (97 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=738/8/32
hdc: hdc1
ide_cs: hdc: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1
hdc: hdc1

I get those two task_no_data errors in Knoppix, and all those hdc: hdc1 
lines.  But it works!
So confused...

For the record, I had to add 'exclude irq 12' in
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts, so mine gets assigned to irq 7 with ioports
0100-0107 and 010e. 

 

I had to exclude that one too.  It seems to be assigning the irq, 
ioports, and iomem correctly.  It dies when I try to actually access it.

Another thing to try after you insert the card, as root type `cardctl
status` and see if it shows your card there.
Mine has this:
Socket 0:
 3.3V 16-bit PC Card
 function 0: [ready], [bat dead], [bat low]
 

Tried that.  cardctl shows it.  I can eject and insert it as much as I 
want, just can't access it.  Confuses the heck out of me.
Thanks for you help!

   -Andy

Robert

 

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