[appengine-java] Re: Wrap the blobstore upload
any news regarding this issue? .. On Oct 26, 2:16 am, Miguel doctormig...@gmail.com wrote: .. with a RESTful web-service. I was wondering if anyone has tried to do something similar .. In fact I am interested in creating a whole RESTful implementation with Google App Engine as backend and from the API I see this task could be a problem Thank you, Michele -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Wrap the blobstore upload
from the API I see this task could be a problem Why? I can't see obvious blocking issues but there are some clear challenges. Maybe raise an enhancement request if you have specifics? Also, why do you want a RESTful web-service? Is there a problem having a slightly more relaxed attitude like GET = requests that do not change state, POST = requests that do change state? Mat. On 7 November 2011 08:55, Miguel doctormig...@gmail.com wrote: any news regarding this issue? .. On Oct 26, 2:16 am, Miguel doctormig...@gmail.com wrote: .. with a RESTful web-service. I was wondering if anyone has tried to do something similar .. In fact I am interested in creating a whole RESTful implementation with Google App Engine as backend and from the API I see this task could be a problem Thank you, Michele -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] datastore viewer : Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again later.
datastore always EMPTY, but i KNOW there are entities STORED. I can see from my logs and from the application frontend that in the namespace koma.be, I have at least 1 Customer kind. For more than 24H I have the error *Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again later.* This issue is ongoing for almost a day. I cannot choose the namespace to query in the datastore viewer either, which I can in the development version. I also tried to enable the datastore admin, but this gives me a python error : The requested URL /_ah/login_required?continue=http://ah-builtin-python-bundle-dot-latest-dot-buddhabridge.appspot.com/_ah/datastore_admin/ was not found on this server. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/dcy7KmSLlegJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Strange behavior with OpenID
Sorry again, but I still have a problem .. I implemented the Authentication in this way: public void doFilter (ServletRequest request, ServletResponse response, FilterChain chain) { [..] HttpSession session = hrequest.getSession(); if (session.getAttribute(user) != null) { // already logged userA = (UserAccount) session.getAttribute(user); hrequest.setAttribute(userAccount, userA); chain.doFilter(request, response); } else { UserService userService = UserServiceFactory.getUserService(); User loggedUser = userService.getCurrentUser(); if (userService.isUserLoggedIn() loggedUser != null) { userA = userAB.retrieveUser(loggedUser); hrequest.setAttribute(userAccount, userA); session.setAttribute(user, userA); chain.doFilter(request, response); } else { // no one is logged String continuePath = ; String uri = hrequest.getRequestURI(); if (uri != null !uri.isEmpty() !uri.equals(/)) { continuePath = ?continue= + uri; } hres.sendRedirect(filterConfig.getInitParameter(redirectPath)+ continuePath); } } and the logout with this function: userService.createLogoutURL(request.getRequestURI()) .. but I have the problem that, even if the user push the logout button, the UserService still see the attribute user in the session; so it seems it is logged .. Why am I doing wrong? Thank you Miguel On Nov 1, 8:03 pm, Miguel doctormig...@gmail.com wrote: Yes thank you again Jose, probably there was a misunderstanding in my last post: I was thinking about the session in my web-app (Google App Engine) and not in OpenID providers! Thanks Michele On Oct 31, 11:47 am, Jose Montes de Oca jfmontesde...@google.com wrote: Hi Miguel, I do not think you will be able to implement a solution relying on session from OpenID Providers. OpenId is just an authentication mechanism, You only Handle your own users sessions within you application and App Engine makes it easy to with the users API. If you would like a session mechanism that would log out and will also logout of the from the Identity provider, you can use App Engine users API but for just Google Accounts (Not choosing Federation Login), IIRC when using the users API for only Google Accounts it would also sign out the users from their google accounts. Hope this Helps! Jose Montes de Oca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Number of writes per second limitation
5 put() RPCs plus one more for the commit, although you could use a batch put to turn this into 1 put() RPC plus one more for the commit. These are implementation details though. We may at some point just hold on to the entire mutation until commit time (easy if you're not asking us to generate ids for any of your entities, harder if you are since we would then need to maintain a client-side cache of ids to avoid RPCs just for id-generation). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/qSsxcAlgC9QJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: A simple imap email connector doesn't work
Yes, I have read the docs before. I actually use it to send email. But my usecase here is slightly different. I am trying to connect to imap gmail server and read user's emails and do some parsing and this requires connecting to a different imap port via secure connection. I believe there is no work around for this and this exercise needs to be done on cloud servers outside of appengine. Thanks Neeli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/xXjczyGuE8cJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: A simple imap email connector doesn't work
Hi Kesava, Yes, I guess that due to the sandbox restrictions, you can't do that this way. Not sure, but isn't there any HTTP compatible Gmail API to do that? All I found is the Gmail Feed that can let you see some of the email fields, but not sure if this is what you needhttp://code.google.com/intl/en/apis/gmail/docs/inbox_feed.html#inbox . Best Regards, -Ronoaldo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/sDGZ9sLR_KYJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: datastore viewer : Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again later.
Anybod @ google can help please ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/EpH8ltPg97EJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Dashboard failing: Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds.
no... sorry for the bad news, but I had to delete the application and upload my site to a new one. Hope you have a better luck! On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:00 AM, koma k...@koma.be wrote: Did the issue finally go away by itself ? Running into this too ! thx, Koen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/3_lcGY4iBHcJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- Guit: Elegant, beautiful, modular and *production ready* gwt applications. http://code.google.com/p/guit/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] anybody using xtend2 with google app engine
http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext/xtend/#embracejava I posted this in the Objectify group but figure I'd open it to a larger audience as I got no one who had tried it. I'm trying to decide if it's worth the time to wade through the concepts and tutorials and get it working in the GAE environment. A lot of the stuff in it looks neat (brings the java language closer to C#) but I only have a limited amount of time to twiddle on my side project. If anyone who has used this could share their experience, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, TF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/esYz9FpkTRsJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] QR Code Generator
I´m looking for a QR Code Generator Library that could be integrated to Java App Engine, could you recomend any one? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/seq81q9p8ikJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] tic-tac-toe Channel API demo on GAE 1.5.5?
Hi all, Does anyone have the Channel API demo working with GAE 1.5.5? I'm having some issues, documented here: http://code.google.com/p/java-channel-tic-tac-toe/issues/detail?id=2#c0 The demo app is currently distributed with 1.3.8. http://code.google.com/p/java-channel-tic-tac-toe/ Any help would be appreciated, thx. --Erik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/AeAv_MDATm4J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Default instance doesn't start on HRD app
Hello! We have such problem: suddenly default instances of our app can't be started because of long first request (actually start of the instance). But: the same code runs OK on not HRD app, and on backend instance (128MB, 600MHz) of the HRD app. Backend instance is up for 10 seconds, so more than 60 sec. up of default instance is really wierd. Logs are attached. I assume it is some AppEngine issues, could you please have a look at it? HRD App Id: prefgame Master-slave: pref-online -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/vYdUKyQAvjwJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. 91.221.166.69 - - [04/Nov/2011:07:31:06 -0700] POST /protopref/gwt/stateService.rpc HTTP/1.1 500 0 http://prefgame.appspot.com/; Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/15.0.874.106 Safari/535.2 prefgame.appspot.com ms=95628 cpu_ms=583 api_cpu_ms=0 cpm_usd=0.016274 loading_request=1 exit_code=104 instance=00c61b117c08cfeb57a527d3da7d09368f8784 W 2011-11-04 16:31:05.866 Failed startup of context com.google.apphosting.utils.jetty.RuntimeAppEngineWebAppContext@1970ae0{/,/base/data/home/apps/s~prefgame/1.354446190505933836} com.google.apphosting.api.DeadlineExceededException: This request () started at 2011/11/04 14:30:04.737 UTC and was still executing at 2011/11/04 14:31:04.499 UTC. at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.init(ZipFile.java:143) at java.util.jar.JarFile.init(JarFile.java:150) at java.util.jar.JarFile.init(JarFile.java:87) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.getJarFile(URLClassPath.java:919) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.access$900(URLClassPath.java:723) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader$1.run(URLClassPath.java:854) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.ensureOpenSynchronized(URLClassPath.java:846) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.ensureOpen(URLClassPath.java:838) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.init(URLClassPath.java:785) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.init(URLClassPath.java:743) at sun.misc.URLClassPath$3.run(URLClassPath.java:412) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.misc.URLClassPath.getLoader(URLClassPath.java:395) at sun.misc.URLClassPath.getLoader(URLClassPath.java:371) at sun.misc.URLClassPath.findResource(URLClassPath.java:201) at java.net.URLClassLoader$2.run(URLClassLoader.java:379) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findResource(URLClassLoader.java:376) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.security.UserClassLoader.findResource(UserClassLoader.java:723) at java.lang.ClassLoader.getResource(ClassLoader.java:977) at org.mortbay.resource.Resource.newSystemResource(Resource.java:203) at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebXmlConfiguration.configureDefaults(WebXmlConfiguration.java:159) at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.startContext(WebAppContext.java:1230) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.doStart(ContextHandler.java:517) at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStart(WebAppContext.java:467) at org.mortbay.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:50) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.AppVersionHandlerMap.createHandler(AppVersionHandlerMap.java:202) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.AppVersionHandlerMap.getHandler(AppVersionHandlerMap.java:171) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.JettyServletEngineAdapter.serviceRequest(JettyServletEngineAdapter.java:123) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.JavaRuntime$RequestRunnable.run(JavaRuntime.java:392) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable.runInContext(TraceContext.java:449) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable$1.run(TraceContext.java:455) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext.runInContext(TraceContext.java:695) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContextNoUnref(TraceContext.java:333) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContext(TraceContext.java:325) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable.run(TraceContext.java:453) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.ThreadGroupPool$PoolEntry.run(ThreadGroupPool.java:162) at
[appengine-java] Strange behavior using ListLong
Guys, Something very strange is happening. I have a manySelectCheckbox component binded to a ListLong property. Ok. The problem is that JSF can apply, I don't know how, a list of numeric values to this property. When JPA try to persist, it saves as a List of Strings! To investigate how it accepts a List of String in a List of Long, I iterated the list of Long values. When I did this, it threw a cast exception (java.lang.String cannot be cast to java.lang.Long) in the first iteration (the first value). How is it possible??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Data Importing from Oracle Database
Hi, I have recently started with the GoogleAppEngine. My requirement is to develop an application in GAE that interacts with third party application's database and sync the data into the Google DataStore and then process the data in my GAE application. I am using Java framework for developing my application in GAE. When I use OracleDataSource in my class, I get the following error: java.net.Socket is a restricted class. Please see the Google App Engine developer's guide for more details. My application has to frequently fetch the sales order data from the third party application and then process the sales orders. Is there a way of addressing this problem?Kindly help. Thanks, Jyothi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] GAE and Flash interaction AND minimizing HTTP request during a game session
Hello everyone, I was planning to make a game application using Flash as client and GAE as back-end. The game interaction level is like the classic Petville or Farmville. My questions are actually 2. 1) What's the best way to let GAE's (and so Big Table) interact with Flash (AS3)? There is an important fact to keep into account. This application will have it's own GAE sandbox, but it will also need to send and receive data from other GAE sandboxes that are in my account. For example, if I find an item in game A, and I want to send that to game B, I need to write this informations on both the GAE sandboxes. It's not important on my side of view if it's the Flash client communicating with both sandboxes, or it is GWT (that include the Flash application) or even the back-ends communicating with each other (for security reason this one would be the best though). I've heard about JSIO, JSNI and JSONP, others spoke about specific libraries they use. However I don't have actually understood what choice suits my needs. 2) Is it possible to minimize the number of HTTP requests making some sort of grouping of them? I will try to explain this better. Sometime it is not necessary to constantly update the server, take for example user moves a chair from (x.123, y.128) to (x127, y.130), I think that you should be able to store some of this data before making a HTTP request for it, the client side can easily keep going, and everything will be fine even if the server is not updated every action the user does. But it may become a problem if the user after making this actions quit the application to move to another page. How can I be sure that the actions the user did will all be saved on the server side? The safe mode would be a request per action, but as I've said before it's a performance killer (and expensive). Actually the Flash application may even store most of the data until the user decides to quit the application. I hope I was able to explain the problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Zombie MapReduce executing over and over... (to the infinite) ---- Couldn't find MR with job ID ---- No handlers matched this URL
Hi everybody. Few months ago I started to view in the App Engine Logs some kind of strange errors, like that: 2011-10-17 14:01:33.690 /mapreduce/mapperCallback 500 22ms 88cpu_ms 8api_cpu_ms 3kb AppEngine-Google; (+http://code.google.com/appengine) /mapreduce/mapperCallback java.lang.RuntimeException: Couldn't find MR with job ID: job_1297281267786bca8a816a40a40cdbb5281c37c3c32ef_0001 at com.google.appengine.tools.mapreduce.AppEngineJobContext.getConfigurationFromRequest(AppEngineJobContext.java: 158) at com.google.appengine.tools.mapreduce.AppEngineJobContext.init(AppEngineJobContext.java: 111) at com.google.appengine.tools.mapreduce.MapReduceServlet.handleMapperWorker(MapReduceServlet.java: 649) at com.google.appengine.tools.mapreduce.MapReduceServlet.doPost(MapReduceServlet.java: 238) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:637) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java: 511) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166) at com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.ParseBlobUploadFilter.doFilter(ParseBlobUploadFilter.java: 97) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.SaveSessionFilter.doFilter(SaveSessionFilter.java: 35) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.TransactionCleanupFilter.doFilter(TransactionCleanupFilter.java: 43) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java: 388) at org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java: 216) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java: 182) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java: 765) at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java: 418) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.AppVersionHandlerMap.handle(AppVersionHandlerMap.java: 249) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java: 152) at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:326) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java: 542) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection $RequestHandler.headerComplete(HttpConnection.java:923) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.RpcRequestParser.parseAvailable(RpcRequestParser.java: 76) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:404) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.JettyServletEngineAdapter.serviceRequest(JettyServletEngineAdapter.java: 135) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.JavaRuntime $RequestRunnable.run(JavaRuntime.java:393) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext $TraceContextRunnable.runInContext(TraceContext.java:449) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext$TraceContextRunnable $1.run(TraceContext.java:455) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext.runInContext(TraceContext.java: 695) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext $AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContextNoUnref(TraceContext.java: 333) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext $AbstractTraceContextCallback.runInInheritedContext(TraceContext.java: 325) at com.google.tracing.TraceContext $TraceContextRunnable.run(TraceContext.java:453) at com.google.apphosting.runtime.ThreadGroupPool $PoolEntry.run(ThreadGroupPool.java:160) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679) I have to say that those errors are being logged periodically, I mean, at the same hours, EVERYDAY!! Well, I've already tried everything: - Delee the application and upload it again. - Delete the application and upload a Hello, World! sample app. - Delete all queues - Delete all cron entries - ... The only change I could see is that when I delete my actual application and upload a very simple one (Hello, World!), I get a 404 error, instead of the 500 one avobe: 2011-11-03 12:08:13.837 /mapreduce/mapperCallback 404 77ms 0cpu_ms 0kb 0.1.0.2 - - [03/Nov/2011:04:08:13 -0700] POST /mapreduce/ mapperCallback HTTP/1.1 404 0 http://MY_APP.appspot.com/mapreduce/ mapperCallback - MY_APP.appspot.com ms=78 cpu_ms=0 api_cpu_ms=0 cpm_usd=0.63 queue_name=default task_name=worker- attempt-1297281267786bca8a816a40a40cdbb5281c37c3c32ef-0001- m-00-1--3 W 2011-11-03 12:08:13.836 No handlers matched this URL. So, this makes me think that there's something in my original application that has to do with this MapReduce call job_1297281267786bca8a816a40a40cdbb5281c37c3c32ef_0001, but I don't know what. But this may be some MR call that is running
[appengine-java] Uploading Java classes
I have a Java class written that has a function that returns the value I want. Now I would like to upload my Java class to my application and call the Java class using either JSON or cURL. Would this be possible? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Backend instances going idle
Anyone know what would cause a backend instance to basically go idle? I have multiple tasks in queue but the backend is just sitting here, no CPU, no QPS, no latency. The backend has been up for over 1 hour without any task completion or movement. I have 3 queues with 2 concurrent tasks trying to run currently. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/nYxaF6Nyb1MJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Server error
Hi, I'm new to Google App Engine. I'm developing my website on vosao. The problem I'm getting is when I installed my own custom java plugin it gave me following server error. Error: Server Error The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. Now I'm unable to do anything. Whenever I try to access my website it gave me above error. Please help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/kgTHW2PwYh0J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Group Welcome Read Me
hi amanda i just joined your group what r we supposed todo?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/TrW4UMJV9j4J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Http 404 error in google app engine
Try doGet, not post On Oct 29, 10:20 am, jyoerye angel.like...@gmail.com wrote: I have a project in java with a My SQL data base which I need to transfer to Google App engine. I started with a simple example online: I created guestbook.jsp and SignGuestbookServlet,But I get this error Http 404: /sign not found: I am pasting the necessary files here: SignGuestbookServlet.java package guestbook; import java.io.IOException; import java.util.logging.Logger; import javax.servlet.http.*; import com.google.appengine.api.users.User; import com.google.appengine.api.users.UserService; import com.google.appengine.api.users.UserServiceFactory; public class SignGuestbookServlet extends HttpServlet { /** * */ private static final long serialVersionUID = 1L; private static final Logger log = Logger.getLogger(SignGuestbookServlet.class.getName()); public void doPost(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) throws IOException { UserService userService = UserServiceFactory.getUserService(); User user = userService.getCurrentUser(); String content = req.getParameter(content); if (content == null) { content = (No greeting); } resp.getWriter().println(Hello,this is jyo world); /* if (user != null) { log.info(Greeting posted by user + user.getNickname() + : + content); } else { log.info(Greeting posted anonymously: + content); }*/ resp.sendRedirect(/guestbook.jsp); } } guestbook.jsp %@ page contentType=text/html;charset=UTF-8 language=java % %@ page import=com.google.appengine.api.users.User % %@ page import=com.google.appengine.api.users.UserService % %@ page import=com.google.appengine.api.users.UserServiceFactory % html body % UserService userService = UserServiceFactory.getUserService(); User user = userService.getCurrentUser(); if (user != null) { % pHello, %= user.getNickname() %! (You can a href=%= userService.createLogoutURL(request.getRequestURI()) %sign out/a.)/p % } else { % pHello! a href=%= userService.createLoginURL(request.getRequestURI()) %Sign in/a to include your name with greetings you post./p % } % form action=/sign method=post divtextarea name=content rows=3 cols=60/textarea/div divinput type=submit value=Post Greeting //div /form /body /html web.xml ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? web-app xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee; xmlns:web=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd; xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaeehttp://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd; version=2.5 servlet servlet-namesign/servlet-name servlet-classguestbook.SignGuestbookServlet/servlet-class /servlet servlet-mapping servlet-namesign/servlet-name url-pattern/sign/url-pattern /servlet-mapping welcome-file-list welcome-fileguestbook.jsp/welcome-file /welcome-file-list /web-app -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Instances on non-default version not shutting down after 15 minutes?
I tried a url on a non-default version to test a change. It spun up an instance as expected but doesn't appear to be shutting down. I has been idle for a while now. When should this shut down? Am I billed for its instance hours? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DvwbbKNqG3M/TreYHyAahGI/AAU/1--6bjWtWu8/instance.PNG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/siaHmY5D10MJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Instances on non-default version not shutting down after 15 minutes?
Hey Kenneth, The number of instances that you are billed for (and cost you free quota) can be less than the total number of instances. Look at the Instances graph in the Dashboard tab in Admin Console and you should see a green line representing billed instances - that is what you are billed for (or costs you free quota). Cheers, Brian On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Kenneth kennet...@aladdinschools.comwrote: I tried a url on a non-default version to test a change. It spun up an instance as expected but doesn't appear to be shutting down. I has been idle for a while now. When should this shut down? Am I billed for its instance hours? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DvwbbKNqG3M/TreYHyAahGI/AAU/1--6bjWtWu8/instance.PNG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/siaHmY5D10MJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
With new pricing we've got a new dashboard and it did not got better. Until today in the Current Load tab we were able to see most demanding handlers that showed average latency CPU per URL. Combined it was a powerful tool for spotting wrong things. It was so good in identifying performance/money troubles that we even changed some URLs from /resource/ABC to /resource?id=ABC so we can get the accumulated stats at the dashboard. We can not anymore - it shows just Req/Sec and Total number of request. Any chance to get Avg. Latency CPU back? Anyone feel the same as we do? Should we raise an issue in official tracker? Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/reL-M3oBW7IJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] New Pricing is now in place!
Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Instances on non-default version not shutting down after 15 minutes?
The billed green line doesn't show up when viewing the non-default version. Does that mean everything not on the default version is free? H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/Y5H121Q5qRoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
Hi Alex, Please feel free to raise an issue in the issue tracker. We are looking into improving the dashboard to allow you to better optimize your app. I'm interested to understand more about what you would do with the information. For instance, why is CPU still important for you? Thanks for the suggestion! Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Sharp-Developer.Net alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com wrote: With new pricing we've got a new dashboard and it did not got better. Until today in the Current Load tab we were able to see most demanding handlers that showed average latency CPU per URL. Combined it was a powerful tool for spotting wrong things. It was so good in identifying performance/money troubles that we even changed some URLs from /resource/ABC to /resource?id=ABC so we can get the accumulated stats at the dashboard. We can not anymore - it shows just Req/Sec and Total number of request. Any chance to get Avg. Latency CPU back? Anyone feel the same as we do? Should we raise an issue in official tracker? Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/reL-M3oBW7IJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Instances on non-default version not shutting down after 15 minutes?
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Kenneth kennet...@aladdinschools.com wrote: The billed green line doesn't show up when viewing the non-default version. Does that mean everything not on the default version is free? H Unfortunately, no ;-) It looks like a bug in the graph. We'll look into it ASAP. Cheers, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/Y5H121Q5qRoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
Hi Greg, On a similar vein, I've put in a request for the datastore costs to be put in to the logs: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6258 Apologies if this is a dup but I couldn't find anything similar. Thanks, Kenneth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/A5Olmrka7GYJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] where can we find disable billing in new apps page
Hi, We have few apps with billing enabled for test purposes. We now do not want to pay for wt we are not using. where can we find disable billing in new settings page thanks -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
Greg, thanks for prompt reply. I've raised an issue: * http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6259* Anyone feeling it reasonable please start it! To answer your question: *Why we need both Latency CPU with the new pricing model?* High latency identify there could be sequence of sync calls to API or improper limit. High CPU with low latency can identify here can be a case when we have many async request to API (while we should/can use in-instance cashed data). Does my logic sounds reasonable? At least it works for us. We use this approach to incrementally optimize top handlers one by one. Usually we get 10x improvements - completed 3 iterations at the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/3SnAwvZyQTkJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
Thanks, that makes total sense, I just wanted to understand how you were using it to ensure we provide you the right information. Thanks again! Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Sharp-Developer.Net alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com wrote: Greg, thanks for prompt reply. I've raised an issue: * http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6259* Anyone feeling it reasonable please start it! To answer your question: *Why we need both Latency CPU with the new pricing model?* High latency identify there could be sequence of sync calls to API or improper limit. High CPU with low latency can identify here can be a case when we have many async request to API (while we should/can use in-instance cashed data). Does my logic sounds reasonable? At least it works for us. We use this approach to incrementally optimize top handlers one by one. Usually we get 10x improvements - completed 3 iterations at the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/3SnAwvZyQTkJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] XMPP Stanzas 10x price hike?
http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/managing-resources.html says XMPP Stanzas are charged at $0.01/1000 Stanzas The post-preview dashboard says that XMPP Stanzas are charged at $0.10/1000 Stanzas Please tell me this is a mistake! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/dvfW1_WJFUQJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
+1 On Nov 7, 5:23 am, Sharp-Developer.Net alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com wrote: Greg, thanks for prompt reply. I've raised an issue: *http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6259* Anyone feeling it reasonable please start it! To answer your question: *Why we need both Latency CPU with the new pricing model?* High latency identify there could be sequence of sync calls to API or improper limit. High CPU with low latency can identify here can be a case when we have many async request to API (while we should/can use in-instance cashed data). Does my logic sounds reasonable? At least it works for us. We use this approach to incrementally optimize top handlers one by one. Usually we get 10x improvements - completed 3 iterations at the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] A fun app engine story with a moral.
Dear All, Once upon a time a friend asked me about how best to setup a simple site for his business, having already spent a chunk of my time wrestling with the gaes and having some moderate success in the building of a little cms/wtf for it ( see http://boot-str.appspot.com/ ). I thought this would be a good opportunity to make a live deployment for someone who actually cares about their site working. Even though I feel somewhat sceptical about the stability of the gae for low volume sites ( I'm afraid my experience has been non positive in that respect ). Hey its moving out of beta, this will be a real paid app since its a business expense and it probably wont go over the 9bux minimum anyhow (I still wish that wasn't in place, I'd rather lose the free quota than have that minimum but then I'd also rather prepay in advance since I'm guessing you are trying to avoid high overheads on low transactions and that would be a fix to the monthly minimum, right? ) Step one, I upload an app. An app that has been tested and deployed multiple times. Failure one, every single requested index is marked as error. This is the first time that has happened to me, what gives? This seems to be a very hard error, any attempt to upload the app again says indexs are in error and must be removed to fix them, this seems slight complicated (i'm using java and the instructions are for python, mentioning files that I do not have). However since I haven't done anything yet there is no important data I figure it must be possible to just reset everything and start again. Wrong. Foolishly in looking for the delete all data and start again button I clicked on the disable app as I thought that may help as a first step and open up other options. I mean its just a toggle right? I'll just click it again and be back to where I was. This turns out to have been the worst possible button to press. Let me see if you can spot the problem with the following list of errors... You cannot currently re-enable this application because some owners already have too many enabled free apps. Please consider either changing the role of the affected admins to Developer or enabling billing before re-enabling this application. ( Like i said I built a little cms type app and have gone through a bunch of test apps, in, well, testing the thing so yes I'm not only at the free limit but way way over it, only a couple of live sites the rest are just detritus. So that explains the first error, which is annoying but whatever. ) Attempt to change a role results in: Sorry, that operation is not allowed while the application is disabled. Attempt to remove a developer results in: Sorry, that operation is not allowed while the application is disabled. Attempt to enable billing results in: You cannot turn on billing for a disabled application. It seems Please consider either changing the role of the affected admins to Developer or enabling billing before re-enabling this application. is a lie. So that would be a fail for the new and improved out of beta app engine, yes? The moral of this story is, never ever, under any circumstances, click on disable app. Thanx for listening. -- Kriss http://boot-str.appspot.com/ http://www.WetGenes.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] XMPP Stanzas 10x price hike?
it should be $0.10 / 100k stanza - http://www.google.com/enterprise/cloud/appengine/pricing.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] is google doing anything to block such blogs ?
here is its sister website - linkhttp://all-about-google-webtoolkit.blogspot.com On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: Panda was NOT about fighting spam. Trust me my sand boxes that are designed to see how Bots crawl things, and my honey pots for finding scrape bots got a HUGE boost from Panda, and the legit sites got less traffic. Panda was about increasing the number of searches required to find an answer so that Google could sell more ad traffic, and boosting Google owned properties in search. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hunter Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 12:43 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] is google doing anything to block such blogs ? I think you should just use the 'Report Abuse' on the page itself - to report it Blogger. But yes, google do try to block such things. They have whole teams of people trying to address webspam. Google Panda, is a recent concerted effort to help address these types of sites. (well at least its one of the highly visible efforts from the outside) Ironically, posting a unobfuscated link to it here, you've given it a tiny bit of extra link juice :( On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Prashant antsh...@gmail.com wrote: I found this blog on google search ... this is just one of this type ... this kind of bolgs/sites just degrade the quality of search results ... this kind of blogs/sites must be blacklisted from google search ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Instances on non-default version not shutting down after 15 minutes?
To clarify, the billed instances graph (i.e. the green line) will only be present on the default version for your app. This is because of many subtleties (e.g. the formula is per-app not per-version, the admin-console only renders graphs per version), but as long as the default version serves almost all of the traffic for the app, then the graph line is correct. Otherwise refer to the data below the graph or the Quota Details or Billing History page for exact numbers. In future revisions of the admin-console graphing UI we'll be able to remove this subtlety. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Brian Quinlan bquin...@google.com wrote: Hey Kenneth, The number of instances that you are billed for (and cost you free quota) can be less than the total number of instances. Look at the Instances graph in the Dashboard tab in Admin Console and you should see a green line representing billed instances - that is what you are billed for (or costs you free quota). Cheers, Brian On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Kenneth kennet...@aladdinschools.comwrote: I tried a url on a non-default version to test a change. It spun up an instance as expected but doesn't appear to be shutting down. I has been idle for a while now. When should this shut down? Am I billed for its instance hours? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DvwbbKNqG3M/TreYHyAahGI/AAU/1--6bjWtWu8/instance.PNG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/siaHmY5D10MJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: XMPP Stanzas 10x price hike?
I must have misread it then -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/D_FGLpdbfzEJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
CPU usage isn't that important, but it's better than nothing. Would be very nice to see the instance time used by every URI. I used this table to find big resource hogs. On Nov 7, 11:31 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Alex, Please feel free to raise an issue in the issue tracker. We are looking into improving the dashboard to allow you to better optimize your app. I'm interested to understand more about what you would do with the information. For instance, why is CPU still important for you? Thanks for the suggestion! Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Sharp-Developer.Net alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com wrote: With new pricing we've got a new dashboard and it did not got better. Until today in the Current Load tab we were able to see most demanding handlers that showed average latency CPU per URL. Combined it was a powerful tool for spotting wrong things. It was so good in identifying performance/money troubles that we even changed some URLs from /resource/ABC to /resource?id=ABC so we can get the accumulated stats at the dashboard. We can not anymore - it shows just Req/Sec and Total number of request. Any chance to get Avg. Latency CPU back? Anyone feel the same as we do? Should we raise an issue in official tracker? Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/reL-M3oBW7IJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Idle instances and pending latency management advice
Hello, my app has about 7-9 user requests per minute and my settings for idle instances and pending latencies are set to Automatic. These requests also trigger tasks creation (for some background computing and datastore writes). I need some basic advice for managing my settings on idle instances and pending latencies (at least...) so that my costs are kept as low as possible, according to the new pricing model (articles, other group threads, or documentation links would be very appreciated) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Idle instances and pending latency management advice
I dropped ours from 3 to 2 minimum idle instances, and saw significant drop in daily cost. 7-9 user requests per minute shouldn't be too much of a hit (depending on how much time is used to serve them and the background tasks they spawn of course)... -- Adrian Scott, Ph.D. CEO, Founder CoderBuddy http://www.coderbuddy.com/ -- Create a Google App Engine app in a minute without installing anything On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Ice13ill andrei.fifi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, my app has about 7-9 user requests per minute and my settings for idle instances and pending latencies are set to Automatic. These requests also trigger tasks creation (for some background computing and datastore writes). I need some basic advice for managing my settings on idle instances and pending latencies (at least...) so that my costs are kept as low as possible, according to the new pricing model (articles, other group threads, or documentation links would be very appreciated) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Idle instances and pending latency management advice
Well, most of my CPU usage is due to tasks background work (about 80%) and also, a large number of datastore writes influences a rise in costs. On 7 November 2011 17:29, Adrian Scott adr...@coderbuddy.com wrote: I dropped ours from 3 to 2 minimum idle instances, and saw significant drop in daily cost. 7-9 user requests per minute shouldn't be too much of a hit (depending on how much time is used to serve them and the background tasks they spawn of course)... -- Adrian Scott, Ph.D. CEO, Founder CoderBuddy http://www.coderbuddy.com/ -- Create a Google App Engine app in a minute without installing anything On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Ice13ill andrei.fifi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, my app has about 7-9 user requests per minute and my settings for idle instances and pending latencies are set to Automatic. These requests also trigger tasks creation (for some background computing and datastore writes). I need some basic advice for managing my settings on idle instances and pending latencies (at least...) so that my costs are kept as low as possible, according to the new pricing model (articles, other group threads, or documentation links would be very appreciated) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL
If this costs resources, I prefer to have Google just add latency but not CPU. The dashboard is often quite slow already as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] URGENT: Datastore indexes overquota limit
I have a billing enabled application which has exceeded the index limit of 200. When i try to deploy the application , it updates my application but gives an error 400 for Updating Index. Below is the error message: Starting update of app: xxx, version: xxx Scanning files on local disk. Scanned 500 files. 2011—10—28 16:06:21,081 WARNING appengine rpc.py:435 ssl module not found. Without the ssl module, the identity of the remote host cannot be verified, and connections may NOT be secure. To fix this, please install the ssl module from http: //pypi . python. org/pypi/ssl . To learn more, see http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.htm1#rpcssl . Password for x...@.com: Cloning 460 static files. Cloned 100 files. Cloned 200 files. Cloned 300 files. Cloned 400 files. Cloning 93 application files. Compilation starting. Compilation completed. Starting deployment. Checking if deployment succeeded. Will check again in 1 seconds. Checking if deployment succeeded. Will check again in 2 seconds. Checking if deployment succeeded. Deployment successful. Checking if updated app version is serving. Completed update of app: x, version: xxx Uploading index definitions. Error 400: ——— begin server output ——— Over index creation quota: The API call datastorev3.Createlndex() required more quota than is available. ——— end server output ——— Your app was updated, but there was an error updating your indexes. Please retry later with appcfg . py update_indexes. Uploading cron entries. 2011—10—28 16:06:55 (Process exited with code 0) You can close this window now.I I understand that there is a limit of 200 indexes per application; so i have also run vacuum_ indexes command to delete some of the indexes and now currently i have 142 indexes that i manually counted from Datastore Indexes tab; But the Quota Details tab still shows 200 of 200; this instance was of yesterday and the database has been reset but still after 24 hrs it did not update the indexes. Please update me asap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: bug in memcache.set() with expiration time for 30 days?
you can set 0 or not set time - it mean maximum lifetime (1 month). If you set full month - it can understand as timestamp in the past and value expire immendantly. Try set 29 days or 29 days 23 hours 59 minutes. 2011/11/5 Andrius A andriu...@gmail.com sorry, correct code: memcache.set('myEntity', myData, time=2592000) # returns True memcache.get('myEntity') # returns None memcache.set('myEntity', myData, time=1209600) # returns True memcache.get('myEntity') # returns entity data On 5 November 2011 17:27, Andrius A andriu...@gmail.com wrote: even if specifying keyword it's not setting it: memcache.set('myEntity', myData, 2592000) # returns True memcache.get('myEntity') # returns None memcache.set('myEntity', myData, 1209600) # returns True memcache.get('myEntity') # returns entity data Don't know really what's the logic here, maybe when time value is high it thinks this is a unix time stamp 2592000 = Sat, 31 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT, and makes data to expiry straight away? If so, documentation need to say that, because it is not clear! On 5 November 2011 16:32, pdknsk pdk...@googlemail.com wrote: I haven't tried, but it probably doesn't work as a positional argument, only as a keyword argument (time=1). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- С уважением, Кулин Тимофей. Телефон: +7 (4852) 974793 ICQ: 114902104 email: timo...@koolin.ru Blog: http://timofey.koolin.ru -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
This should help , if possible it would be great On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Google storage for developers vs blobstore
blobstore have api for read/write files, it cost smaller then google storage. What feauture have google storage what haven't blobstore to use with gae. Now i see only one - it can be write from outside application. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/vk7jzwKnFJkJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] suggestions for quota overview in dashboard
1. It's currently not indicated how much free quota (not maximum quota) per resource is set. 2. What's the point of maximum quota if it's unlimited for all but channels (in the overview, not the dedicated quota page)? Maybe this could be reversed, to assume unlimited quota by default and only mention if maximum quota is not unlimited (also applies to quota page). 3. Only show resource rows (in the overview) if the resource was actually used today. Example: someone might not use channels, emails, backends, tasks in their app. Just some ideas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Datastore operations are seriously expensive
I've been monitoring my app today for cost and the instances are so far fairly ok. However I'm getting absolutely hammered on the datastore operations. (yes, this was in the billing preview) I found this gem with seems to have been updated since I last looked at it. This may be old news to people but I just discovered it. http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html#operations_charged_for I was under the impression that if you did an entity get by key it was a small operation, apparently not. If you put a new entity with 4 indexed properties that's actually 10 writes! If you update those 4 properties 18 writes! If you delete that entity 10 writes again! If you have a composite index you're screwed even more. I understand how the datastore works and all but that's pretty crazy. Every time I look at a property and think maybe I won't index that one I think actually no, I can see how I might need that sometime. Damn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/xXIIgqnrLOcJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Thanks for the feedback, we are looking into the possibility of adding this information back. Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.comwrote: This should help , if possible it would be great On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Grandfathered Recipients Emailed Quota Reset to 100
All of my old apps appear to have had their grandfathered limit of 2000 free Recipients Emailed reset to 100. Is this by design or an oversight? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/SZ_iJ5WKaNwJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] A fun app engine story with a moral.
Hi Kriss, Thanks for letting us know about this issue (and putting it into an entertaining narrative). But we apologize about the poor experience, it was a bug that we immediately fixed after we read this post. You should now be able to change the permissions on your app and/or enable billing while it is still disabled. If you run into additional issues, please let us know! Thanks, Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:40 AM, kr...@xixs.com kr...@xixs.com wrote: Dear All, Once upon a time a friend asked me about how best to setup a simple site for his business, having already spent a chunk of my time wrestling with the gaes and having some moderate success in the building of a little cms/wtf for it ( see http://boot-str.appspot.com/ ). I thought this would be a good opportunity to make a live deployment for someone who actually cares about their site working. Even though I feel somewhat sceptical about the stability of the gae for low volume sites ( I'm afraid my experience has been non positive in that respect ). Hey its moving out of beta, this will be a real paid app since its a business expense and it probably wont go over the 9bux minimum anyhow (I still wish that wasn't in place, I'd rather lose the free quota than have that minimum but then I'd also rather prepay in advance since I'm guessing you are trying to avoid high overheads on low transactions and that would be a fix to the monthly minimum, right? ) Step one, I upload an app. An app that has been tested and deployed multiple times. Failure one, every single requested index is marked as error. This is the first time that has happened to me, what gives? This seems to be a very hard error, any attempt to upload the app again says indexs are in error and must be removed to fix them, this seems slight complicated (i'm using java and the instructions are for python, mentioning files that I do not have). However since I haven't done anything yet there is no important data I figure it must be possible to just reset everything and start again. Wrong. Foolishly in looking for the delete all data and start again button I clicked on the disable app as I thought that may help as a first step and open up other options. I mean its just a toggle right? I'll just click it again and be back to where I was. This turns out to have been the worst possible button to press. Let me see if you can spot the problem with the following list of errors... You cannot currently re-enable this application because some owners already have too many enabled free apps. Please consider either changing the role of the affected admins to Developer or enabling billing before re-enabling this application. ( Like i said I built a little cms type app and have gone through a bunch of test apps, in, well, testing the thing so yes I'm not only at the free limit but way way over it, only a couple of live sites the rest are just detritus. So that explains the first error, which is annoying but whatever. ) Attempt to change a role results in: Sorry, that operation is not allowed while the application is disabled. Attempt to remove a developer results in: Sorry, that operation is not allowed while the application is disabled. Attempt to enable billing results in: You cannot turn on billing for a disabled application. It seems Please consider either changing the role of the affected admins to Developer or enabling billing before re-enabling this application. is a lie. So that would be a fail for the new and improved out of beta app engine, yes? The moral of this story is, never ever, under any circumstances, click on disable app. Thanx for listening. -- Kriss http://boot-str.appspot.com/ http://www.WetGenes.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] What does the second idle instances setting do?
I've noticed idle instances got another slider. It seems like min idle instances, but the docs says it's not possible to set min idle. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/performancesettings.html#Setting_the_Number_of_Idle_Instances -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] What does the second idle instances setting do?
The documentation hasn't been updated yet (it will be later on today) but the min idle instances setting allows you to determine how many instances you want to keep running constantly to ensure you don't have slow startup times. This is the equivalent of the old Always-On. In general 1 min idle instance should be fine. Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:02 AM, pdknsk pdk...@googlemail.com wrote: I've noticed idle instances got another slider. It seems like min idle instances, but the docs says it's not possible to set min idle. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/performancesettings.html#Setting_the_Number_of_Idle_Instances -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: where can we find disable billing in new apps page
Any Update on this? On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, We have few apps with billing enabled for test purposes. We now do not want to pay for wt we are not using. where can we find disable billing in new settings page thanks -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Grandfathered Recipients Emailed Quota Reset to 100
Just to update - after a discussion with Greg, it appears that the grandfathering was only relevant until the new price scheme was released. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/QojbsYy5aUoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Grandfathered Recipients Emailed Quota Reset to 100
Really, because this doc: http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html which is entitled postpreviewpricing says in the very last section that you'll even get grandfathered in if you migrate to HRD from M/S. Could someone clarify this? Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/nCGcXcVyi8sJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Grandfathered Recipients Emailed Quota Reset to 100
Hi Stephen, If you had previously migrated to HRD you could request that we up the number of emails back to the old limit, but that doc will be updated later today to no longer offer it. If you haven't had a chance to migrate yet and you are doing so now, send a note to appengine_updated_pric...@google.com and we can take care of it for you. Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:50 AM, stephenp slpe...@gmail.com wrote: Really, because this doc: http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html which is entitled postpreviewpricing says in the very last section that you'll even get grandfathered in if you migrate to HRD from M/S. Could someone clarify this? Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/nCGcXcVyi8sJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: How can I undelete (recover) deleted entities?
You restore the data from your own custom backup solution. Also, star this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=776 to maybe get better backup tools from google in the future. On Nov 7, 3:53 am, Y yaakovs...@gmail.com wrote: I had 30 GB of entities saved over 2-3 years but I only needed the entities for the past 365 days. Since the cost for storage is going way way up, I decided to delete out the unneeded entities. Wrote a simple script to delete out the unneeded entities. After running for a number of hours today, mission accomplished. Problem is that after the script was done I realized with horror is that I deleted too much! Is there any way to undelete (recover) deleted entities? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: where can we find disable billing in new apps page
Hello, You should be able to disable billing from the Billing Settings page. However, only the current billing administrator can disable billing (the current billing administrator is displayed on the same page). If you are not the billing administrator you have to first click Take Over Billing. Once you complete the billing take over, you will then be able to disable billing. Hope that helps, Matt Rosencrantz On Nov 7, 2:23 am, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We have few apps with billing enabled for test purposes. We now do not want to pay for wt we are not using. where can we find disable billing in new settings page thanks -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Thanks, that'd be great. Just updated my billing settings but felt like i was flying blind ;). -- Adrian Scott, Ph.D. CEO, Founder CoderBuddy http://www.coderbuddy.com/ -- Create a Google App Engine app in a minute without installing anything On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.comwrote: Thanks for the feedback, we are looking into the possibility of adding this information back. Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.comwrote: This should help , if possible it would be great On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Grandfathered Recipients Emailed Quota Reset to 100
Well, I've been waiting for the tools that help with migrating. Aren't those still being tested? Then I still need to update some native apps to point to the new https://hrd-appid.appspot.com (and maybe even build something to proxy requests to the old app to the new app since all native app owners might not upgrade). And actually I was also waiting for HTTPS so I can update the native apps to point to that instead of an appspot domain. I'm assuming by the time I'm done with all that I will have missed my chance to be grandfathered in to the old limits? Thanks, Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/HQs7UPA-lcgJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Grandfathered Recipients Emailed Quota Reset to 100
Hey Stephen, we can still give you the limit for a few months if you contact us once you've created your new HRD app. Thanks, Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:23 AM, stephenp slpe...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I've been waiting for the tools that help with migrating. Aren't those still being tested? Then I still need to update some native apps to point to the new https://hrd-appid.appspot.com (and maybe even build something to proxy requests to the old app to the new app since all native app owners might not upgrade). And actually I was also waiting for HTTPS so I can update the native apps to point to that instead of an appspot domain. I'm assuming by the time I'm done with all that I will have missed my chance to be grandfathered in to the old limits? Thanks, Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/HQs7UPA-lcgJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: How can I undelete (recover) deleted entities?
Well, Google does have backups of it. If you pay enough, Google might restore it manually. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] High Replication Datastore Error
Hi, I'm just curious to see this chart http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/hr-datastore/2011/11/07#ae-trust-detail-hr-datastore-get-error_rate and wold like to hear from Google team or developers that are under HRD if they're only displaying wrong or if this is the first *downtime* for HRD. Looks like get() or query() are giving 100% error rate, i.e.: unable to read your data. -Ronoaldo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/AAgQ2O0TvfIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: High Replication Datastore Error
Hi Ronoaldo, What you're seeing is an error in our monitoring system caused by today's changes. HRD did not suffer any downtime. Thank you for pointing this out! -Alon App Engine Team On Nov 7, 11:06 am, Ronoaldo José de Lana Pereira rpere...@beneficiofacil.com.br wrote: Hi, I'm just curious to see this charthttp://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/hr-datastore/2011/11/0... and wold like to hear from Google team or developers that are under HRD if they're only displaying wrong or if this is the first *downtime* for HRD. Looks like get() or query() are giving 100% error rate, i.e.: unable to read your data. -Ronoaldo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: High Replication Datastore Error
Hi Alon, Thanks, I was just surprised and tinking that the issue was something like this. -Ronoaldo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/51tMgikpujIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive
It's sad how we find ourselves thinking about not implementing stuff, because of the pricing... The new pricing Model had to be implemented, we can all agree on that... but the pricing itself is too high! Does Google servers cost that much more than Amazon's? I'm sure that's not the case. On Nov 7, 2:48 pm, Kenneth kennet...@aladdinschools.com wrote: I've been monitoring my app today for cost and the instances are so far fairly ok. However I'm getting absolutely hammered on the datastore operations. (yes, this was in the billing preview) I found this gem with seems to have been updated since I last looked at it. This may be old news to people but I just discovered it. http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html#operation... I was under the impression that if you did an entity get by key it was a small operation, apparently not. If you put a new entity with 4 indexed properties that's actually 10 writes! If you update those 4 properties 18 writes! If you delete that entity 10 writes again! If you have a composite index you're screwed even more. I understand how the datastore works and all but that's pretty crazy. Every time I look at a property and think maybe I won't index that one I think actually no, I can see how I might need that sometime. Damn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Idle instances and pending latency management advice
Here's a little more on what Adrian has talked: https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/260e7cefc6e5d482 It's definitely not for every case, but it might be yours! On Nov 7, 2:14 pm, Andrei Cosmin Fifiiţă andrei.fifi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, most of my CPU usage is due to tasks background work (about 80%) and also, a large number of datastore writes influences a rise in costs. On 7 November 2011 17:29, Adrian Scott adr...@coderbuddy.com wrote: I dropped ours from 3 to 2 minimum idle instances, and saw significant drop in daily cost. 7-9 user requests per minute shouldn't be too much of a hit (depending on how much time is used to serve them and the background tasks they spawn of course)... -- Adrian Scott, Ph.D. CEO, Founder CoderBuddy http://www.coderbuddy.com/-- Create a Google App Engine app in a minute without installing anything On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Ice13ill andrei.fifi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, my app has about 7-9 user requests per minute and my settings for idle instances and pending latencies are set to Automatic. These requests also trigger tasks creation (for some background computing and datastore writes). I need some basic advice for managing my settings on idle instances and pending latencies (at least...) so that my costs are kept as low as possible, according to the new pricing model (articles, other group threads, or documentation links would be very appreciated) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: appstats/recording.py:498: DeprecationWarning
Seems to be fixed today with the release of SDK 1.6.0. I just re- enabled AppStats on the live site and am no longer seeing these errors in the logs. On Oct 6, 1:01 am, J.T gae.0...@gmail.com wrote: E 2011-10-06 10:01:05.834 /base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/ appstats/recording.py:498: DeprecationWarning: get_request_cpu_usage may not always return correct values E 2011-10-06 10:01:05.834 summary.set_processor_mcycles(quota.get_request_cpu_usage()) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Me too
I am also a student and I was supplying my android app through GAE. I think I am also going to move to EC2... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
on page http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/billing.html I don't see different pricing for datastore and blobstore. Is it same now? 2011/11/7 Adrian Scott adr...@coderbuddy.com Thanks, that'd be great. Just updated my billing settings but felt like i was flying blind ;). -- Adrian Scott, Ph.D. CEO, Founder CoderBuddy http://www.coderbuddy.com/ -- Create a Google App Engine app in a minute without installing anything On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.comwrote: Thanks for the feedback, we are looking into the possibility of adding this information back. Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.com wrote: This should help , if possible it would be great On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- С уважением, Кулин Тимофей. Телефон: +7 (4852) 974793 ICQ: 114902104 email: timo...@koolin.ru Blog: http://timofey.koolin.ru -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Hi Tim, Thanks for the heads up, this seems like an omission which we are correcting now. Blobstore storage is $0.13/G/month. Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Timofey Koolin timofey.koo...@gmail.comwrote: on page http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/billing.html I don't see different pricing for datastore and blobstore. Is it same now? 2011/11/7 Adrian Scott adr...@coderbuddy.com Thanks, that'd be great. Just updated my billing settings but felt like i was flying blind ;). -- Adrian Scott, Ph.D. CEO, Founder CoderBuddy http://www.coderbuddy.com/ -- Create a Google App Engine app in a minute without installing anything On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.comwrote: Thanks for the feedback, we are looking into the possibility of adding this information back. Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.com wrote: This should help , if possible it would be great On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- С уважением, Кулин Тимофей. Телефон: +7 (4852) 974793 ICQ: 114902104 email: timo...@koolin.ru Blog: http://timofey.koolin.ru -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Can we set minimum number of idle instances to zero? At the moment the slider seems to reduce to 1, then snap to automatic which I understand has some algorithm behind it that makes that setting different from zero. If automatic is equivalent to 0, can you explain its behaviour more, as it represents my minimum cost setting. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: What does the second idle instances setting do?
can we get a zero option for min idle instances and just pay for demand scheduled use, if we want to live with the start-up time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Idle instances and pending latency management advice
Adrian. Are you using threadsafe and multiple simultaneous requests per instance? Aync datastore? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Me too
For my calculation - GAE cheaper and more convenient for simple apps. And it'll be cheaper than EC2 very long time. Calc full-day price hours from EC2 and cost of time for setup environvent and tuning it for your app. Calc - how much you must usage your app for out of free quota and start pay. Than calc how much your app must usage gae for price equals to EC2 micro-instance ($14.5/month) or more realistic - small instance ($61/mounth) (micro-instance work dramatically slow - I try use is for simple backup data to ZFS and it usage 100% CPU for single upload stream and store files very slow). GAE real cheap and convenient environment for most app (if you have any experience in gae or have no any experience in both environments). 2011/11/8 Genom phage.cont...@gmail.com I am also a student and I was supplying my android app through GAE. I think I am also going to move to EC2... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- С уважением, Кулин Тимофей. Телефон: +7 (4852) 974793 ICQ: 114902104 email: timo...@koolin.ru Blog: http://timofey.koolin.ru -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] 1.6.0 is now launched
Hello All, Just wanted to let you know that 1.6.0 is now live, information is posted here: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/11/app-engine-160-out-of-preview-release.html Also, starting with 1.6.1 (our next release, NOT this release), URLFetch requests will honor the Accept-Encoding header. If your code sets this header then it must be prepared to receive content of the specified type. For more information please see: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4978 Lastly, if you have any questions and would like to join us in a Hangout sign up at https://developers.google.com/events/ or, of course, respond to this message :) Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.0 is now launched
mini bug: extra i at http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.0 is now launched
Is there a summary of the TOS changes available? I accepted without reading (as many probably have). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.0 is now launched
There isn't a summary of changes as it was a complete re-write, that being said if you want to see the old terms you can find them here: http://code.google.com/appengine/terms_4.html Thanks, Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, pdknsk pdk...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there a summary of the TOS changes available? I accepted without reading (as many probably have). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: High Replication Datastore Error
On Nov 8, 8:17 am, Alon (Google) al...@google.com wrote: What you're seeing is an error in our monitoring system caused by today's changes. HRD did not suffer any downtime. Has HRD suffered ANY downtime since it launched? I haven't noticed any... Cheers Greg. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Appengine Pricing Revisited
I came across this post, which may be useful to some. http://www.gregtracy.com/revisiting-google-app-engines-pricing-changes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Datastore Small Operations
Greetings, Does anyone know what Datastore Small Operations means and where I can find more info about it. I'm currently getting over the quota on this after Nov 7 update: 100% - 0.05 of 0.05 Million Ops. I've searched the web and documentations, but can't find anything about this in the release notes or in the documentations. Thanks, Sargis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: High Replication Datastore Error
Greg, That's true and thats why I was so surprised! By the way, congratulations to the leaving preview launch! Cheers. -Ronoaldo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/GZua-ujc5eQJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Datastore Small Operations
Hi Sargis, Please see: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Resources Key allocations and keys-only queries consume small operations. Let me know if I can do anything else to help. Cheers, Brian On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Sargis Dallakyan dallaky...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Does anyone know what Datastore Small Operations means and where I can find more info about it. I'm currently getting over the quota on this after Nov 7 update: 100% - 0.05 of 0.05 Million Ops. I've searched the web and documentations, but can't find anything about this in the release notes or in the documentations. Thanks, Sargis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore Small Operations
This is best explained here: http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html#operations_charged_forhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=Dq=http%3A%2F%2Fcode.google.com%2Fappengine%2Fkb%2Fpostpreviewpricing.html%23operations_charged_for Small operations are neither reads nor writes, but are key allocations, returning keys from a query, or counts. Your Billing History usage reports can tell you if you are using a substantial number of these operations now. Stacy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/IJFJXw3OOaUJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore Small Operations
Thank you Brian and Stacy. I can now see from the error log that .count() method was consuming all my quota. I'll now need to use len or some other method of counting to avoid going over the quota. Thanks, Sargis On Nov 7, 2:29 pm, Stacy (Google) sta...@google.com wrote: This is best explained here:http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html#operation...http://www.google.com/url?sa=Dq=http%3A%2F%2Fcode.google.com%2Fappen... Small operations are neither reads nor writes, but are key allocations, returning keys from a query, or counts. Your Billing History usage reports can tell you if you are using a substantial number of these operations now. Stacy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] How can I preserve appId when moving from MS to HR datastore
It has been promised some time ago, that this will be possible, and the internal appid naming (starting with s~) indicates to me that there might be two instances ending with the same enduser-visible appid, but what is the actual state ? Is or will this be possible ? -- Roberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/MCHJGWzEFZEJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: How can I preserve appId when moving from MS to HR datastore
Unfortunately, no, but we can alias the app id, so the url remains the same. That's the last step in here - Complete Migration http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/applicationsettings.html#Migrate_from_Master/Slave_to_High_Replication_Datastore Stacy 4:05 PM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/aAeruo26d9YJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Hey All, the side by side bills are now showing up in your applications again in order to let you see historical numbers for your app. Thanks! Greg On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.comwrote: Thanks for the feedback, we are looking into the possibility of adding this information back. Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sandeep Koduri sandeep.kod...@gmail.comwrote: This should help , if possible it would be great On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we please get the old estimated bills back in the Billing history. I wanted to compute the total hours my app consumed for the past few weeks but the history has suddenly vanished. Please help! On Nov 7, 4:26 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hello All, Today is Nov 7th and App Engine is out of Preview and the new pricing is now active! After the changeover we have yet to see any issues except that, for paid apps, we're still updating datastore quotas, so your datastore usage might not be included in your dashboard estimate, your bill will be accurate though. If you are running into any unexpected issues due to this change and would like to get a direct response from the App Engine team feel free to email us at appengine_updated_pric...@google.com. Of course we'll be monitoring this list and stackoverflow as well. Thank you! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Regards Sandeep Koduri Phone: +91- 99 666 02 456 Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri P Please consider the environment before printing this email -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Backends clarification
hi folks, i am afraid i misunderstand the concept of backends' pricing and need your help with this. as far as i understood, backends' pricing is done per hour per instance. for test purposes i created a b4 backend in my app. two instances have been loaded. after ~10 minutes i was out of promised free 9.00 Instance Hours - red dashboard and no soup for me. what am i missing? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/CkQSkZ0aVgIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: New Pricing is now in place!
Andrew, Yes Automatic is the same as Zero - we are looking into changing the label, as this is confusing. Stacy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/SXVWH1qEEOQJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Backends clarification
The free allocation is $0.72 (or 9h of one B1 instance) per day. B4 is expensive. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html#Billable_Resource_Unit_Cost -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: How can I preserve appId when moving from MS to HR datastore
I was reading that document and had a question about the section Duplicating your App. It says to go to the Application Settings section of the admin console for the app you want to copy. Then, step 2 says In the new application identifier textbox I cannot for the life of me find the textbox these instructions are referring to. What am I missing? Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/BiT794I28IIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: What does the second idle instances setting do?
Setting min idle instance to automatic should do that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/wa4mWEmzo8UJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive
Maybe Google Cloud SQL will better suit your dataset. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/cc22RSpIbToJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.