Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition




That is assuming, of course, that Ghost won't freak out with the crazy 
partition.




I do not want to sound like a know it all here but it would be a 
disservice to not inform y'all that I have 10 years of experience in this 
area. What area? Specifically in cleaning off hard drives on name brand 
computers and doing clean installs.


Don't follow this procedure unless you are confident in your ability to 
acquire the correct drivers for everything. This includes, but it not 
limited to the motherboard resource drivers, that long list in Device 
Manager. Usually the only ones Windows does not furnish are the bus 
controller drivers or the onboard video and/or audio controller drivers. You 
are in rough territory unless you can boot the beast into Windows (I use 
safe mode so the crapware will not slow me down too much as I poke around) 
in order to write down the identification of the hardware in Device Manager 
that you will have to furnish drivers for.


I use the hard drive manufacturer's software to wipe off the drive and 
partition it my way. You must know the brand of hard drive and acquire this 
software. This may require that you remove the hard drive, if its brand is 
not available to you in Setup. First I attempt to work from the customer's 
computer that the hard drive is attached to. If that does not work, I remove 
the hard drive and install it into my shop computer. This is one of many 
reasons that serious technical work has to be done on the bench, in the 
shop, not in the customer's home. When the going gets rough in the 
customer's home, the Dell technician get going, straight to the shop with 
the computer. This happens before or after he wastes 2 hours in the home 
convincing himself that computers should be repaired in the shop, not in the 
home. Sure, you can do minor things in the home, but often what you think is 
minor turns into something major. All that time in the home is wasted.


Back to square one. Either in the customer's computer or in my shop 
computer, the hard drive gets cleaned, even any small manufacturer's 
partition. You end up with no data, not even basic drivers. You furnish all 
of the data, including the media from which to install the operating system. 
The best reason to have the hard drive manufacturer's software on a bootable 
CD instead of a bootable floppy disk is that you must boot to the Windows CD 
in order to install Windows. The booting to a CD to wipe the hard drive is a 
test and verification that you can boot to the CD Drive. You are lost if you 
have wiped a hard drive and then can not boot to the Windows CD. The shop 
computer can not help you here. If you can not boot to a CD you have a 
messed up BIOS (or BIOS setting), or a defective IDE controller. Make sure 
you have set the boot order in the BIOS correctly.


I could write a book on the benefits of completely wiping off a hard drive 
and doing a clean install of Windows. The main affect is you make the 
computer forget it is a name brand computer. It runs like a clone, much 
better! Delete this whole letter if you like name brand computers and the 
way they run right out of the box. Follow the computer manufacturer's 
restore process if you like the way it ran when new.


I have for over 10 years done this procedure on Dell's, Compaqs, HP's, 
eMachines, Gateways, and others. How often? 100% of the time. If I can not 
do a wipe and clean install, I send it home not repaired. I do it the best 
way or no way. I know the results of clean installs. Either you agree with 
me or you stand with the 90% of customers who do not. Their taking their 
business elsewhere has forced me to go and take a real job that pays me by 
the hour, not in the computer industry. There are literally hundreds of name 
brand computers out there running much faster than others in their class due 
to having clean installs of Windows. Some have to see it only once to be 
convinced. I have seen it hundreds of times because I did the wipe and clean 
install.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition



partition on some
models (maybe only circa  2000, haven't worked on a
new one) and loose
access to the BIOS setup. May not keep you from


I did run across some computers in that year range that refused to boot to 
the hard drive at the first boot point during the installation of Windows 
XP. Those had to be the ones built late in 2001 as Windows XP was released 
to us in manufacturing early in October and to the public (Full and Upgrade 
versions) later in October, 2001. When I say, First boot point I am 
referring to the point where the files have been copied and the computer is 
automatically rebooted to that first GUI which proceeds with approximately 
39 minutes remaining to the completion of the installation. Knowing that the 
manufacturer's small partition was a FAT 32 partition, my guess was the 
comptuer was set to boot only to a FAT 32 partition and then follow a script 
to proceed to load Windows on its NTFS partition. My work around was I 
partitioned my C Drive as FAT 32. Right or wrong, it worked. This applied to 
only a few models. I was glad to see that short lived.


What you said means that those models were so proprietary that independent 
technicians like me had a very hard time trying to do clean installs on 
them. The point that the general public just does not comprehend is that the 
name brand computer manufacturers do not want their computers repaired. They 
have authorized service centers mainly to cover their warranty obligations. 
They prefer every computer be replaced every 2 years. They do not care if 
their customers get mad at them. For every million customers they lose each 
year, they gain another million customers who are mad at other computer 
manufacturers. With this rotation, it takes 10 years for the typical 
customer to go through a Dell, a Gateway, a HP, a eMachine and a Compaq. It 
takes even longer if a customer buys the same brand a 2nd or 3rd time before 
they get mad and move on. An independent computer technician wants to simply 
buy and install a Seagate or WD generic hard drive, designed to work in most 
any computer. According to what you just said, an independent computer 
technician is going to have a hard time changing out a hard drive, unless 
they order one pre loaded from the computer manufacturer.



This is a CD, CD's contain DATA. DATA is You do
realize Chuck that
most of us here have been doing this as long or longer
than you, right?


I tried to explain the basics for those who are less experienced. I realize 
it is boring for the rest of you. Perhaps very few who have little 
experience are on this list. I read many posts on this thread and it seemed 
that nobody was explaining the basics that I covered. I tried then and in 
this post to explain why the whole process of proprietary built computers 
should be unacceptable to the general public. Actually those of you who have 
more experience than me know it is far easier to build clones or generic 
computers than to build in proprietary crap. It is selfish commercial greed 
to build those things that only a few technicians can easily repair. Yet 
many feel a computer should not last from 5 to 10 years. Before you tell me 
that many do, can you truthfully say that their performance is good, right 
from the beginning up until around 5 years when more resource intensive 
software etc. makes them obsolete? Example: USB 1.1 moving up to USB 2.0.



You are not lost of the CD does not boot. There are
other ways of
getting initial XP install on a HDD w/o being able to
boot a CD in the
target system.



Thank you! I will remember this if I need assistance in doing so. I guess 
there could be valid reasons to install Windows on a computer that is not 
capable of booting to a CD, but right now I can not think of any. What you 
just said is the whole idea here, sharing our varied experience. You just 
assurred me to not worry if I really want to install Windows onto a computer 
that refused to boot to the Windows CD. All of my installs of Windows 9x 
were from the cabinet files on a separate partiton of the hard drive. I ran 
into problems when I tried this with Windows XP and gave up too soon by 
going to CD installs. In fact I would prefer to free the computer from being 
dependent on having a Windows media CD to install Windows XP.





As for the Dell guy, all they would do is use the Dell
restore CD to
revert it back to shipping state or they would ship



Absolutely! They must fulfill their obligations to AOL and the other 
software they agree to keep in the customer's face.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Copying Hard drive

2007-05-31 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Copying Hard drive


only have ghost 8. Have 10 but saw no way to make a boot floppy, glad to 
see it is back in 11

fp


I put the ghost.exe file on a bootable utility CD, one that is so old it has 
Windows 98 utilities. Once I get to the prompt, I change drives to get to 
the drive that represents the CD. Then I type ghost and it opens. I have a 
bootable floppy on hand in case the comptuer refuses to boot to a CD for 
some reason.


I seldom use ghost now. I use Acronis. The latest version supports Windows 
Vista. You can use the Acronis bootable CD on most any computer that will 
boot to a CD and load Acronis into RAM. This eliminates the need to load 
Windows or to even have a loadable version of Windows on any attached hard 
drive.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Dell Help

2007-05-17 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:00 PM
Subject: [H] Dell Help


I know how we all really like Dell, but I have a Dell POS that I need to 
view BIOS.

I've tried the DEL key, the F2 key, and the F10 key.
How does one get to Dell bios?  Maybe the HOME key?
Also can not get Win-ME to give me SAFE Mode either.  Is it possible?



I have formatted and clean installed on many of those 4100's. As with most 
any computer, holding the proper key (F8 or F10 for lots of Compaqs and 
often F1 for HP's, but Delete for Dell) does not work but repeatedly tapping 
it works. As others mentioned, start tapping as soon as you hit the Power 
Switch. Nobody knows when the correct time to hit the proper key is, thus 
the reason for the tapping. Often the P.O.S.T. screen will tell you which 
key to hit. This is the perfect time if you see this.


As for Safe Mode, yes it will go there. I have not seen a computer that 
would not allow Safe Mode. Again, we do not know the timing on hitting the 
F8 key. We do know it is sometime past P.O.S.T. but before the GUI shows up 
(the black background screen that has the version of Windows in bright color 
graphics).


Here is a tip for the rookie technicians. When diagnosing a computer I first 
gather and write down lots of information about it. I write down the Make, 
Model and type of CPU as shown on the front. I record the version of Windows 
and Product Key as shown on the COA. I open the case and write down the 
wattage of its power supply and the MB and speed of its RAM. I go into the 
BIOS and glean valuable information there, such as the hard drive make and 
model etc. While there I correct any settings that the computer manufacturer 
did not set correctly. Example: I enable S.M.A.R.T. so it can tell the 
customer if the hard drive starts going bad.


I boot into Safe Mode so I can get around in Windows without the speed being 
slowed down to a crawl by the loading of devices and crapware. While in Safe 
Mode I back up the customer's important data to an external hard drive. I go 
into Device Manager and write down the type of video, modem, NIC and audio 
so I will know what I need drivers for when I do a clean install. What if 
this is not a format and reinstall job? I write it down anyway. The next 
time the computer comes in, Windows may not be bootable.


Yes, I keep good records. If you get a computer in that will not load 
Windows and you do not know what drivers you need for a clean install, email 
me the Make and Model Number of the computer. Most likely I have worked on 
the same model and can tell you what video. modem, NIC and audio is has. 
Usually the internal modem is as simple as pulling the modem card to look. 
It is the onboard video, NIC and audio that you may not know about. It seems 
that 99% of audio nowadays is AC '97 or SoundMax (Seems like they are both 
the same.)


Dell POS Is that one word or two? Back in the days of southern pride kids 
were grown before they found out that damn yankee was two words. Now Dell 
and POS are one word for people who really know computers.


Chuck





Re: [H] Help troubleshooting - PC won't turn on

2007-05-15 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:53 AM
Subject: [H] Help troubleshooting - PC won't turn on


My kid's PC stopped working this past weekend. When the power button is 
pushed there is a momentary flash of the power light on the case, then


To isolate the problem to either the CPU or motherboard (so far I have never 
seen a bad CPU) I prefer to bench test the motherboard.


Removed from the case and on my bench I hook a known working power supply, 
video card (even if there is onboard video as this may be the problem) 
working RAM, keyboard, mouse and monitor to the motherboard. I have an 
on/off power switch (use a jumper for the 2 power switch pins if you do not 
have an external power switch).


You can run this same test in the case (using a different power supply, of 
course) but it is too easy to forget to unhook something this way. The bench 
test isolates the motherboard from any problem it could encounter while in 
the case such as a short or ground.


Again, after isolating the problem to the motherboard or CPU, moving to a 
working motherboard always solved the problem.


Just remember the bare bones rules (how far you have to go with a new build 
to get video):


Power supply (represented by the case, but board can be powered from bench 
in or out of its case.)

Motherboard
CPU
Memory
Video
Keyboard (optional?)
Mouse (optional)
Monitor

Anything not on this bare bones components list could be the cause of 
failure to perform P.O.S.T. thus no video.


Chuck






Re: [H] Seagate drive died

2007-05-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Seagate drive died



I think it has more to do with how drives are shipped from the vendor. 
Vendors use to send these out in boxes with big foam inserts, but now you 
are lucky if they secure it in bubble wrap. I have bought


What does it take to convince people that there are many reasons to avoid 
name brand computers? In just the hard drive arena, name brand computer 
manufacturers buy 1 year hard drives. That is all the warranty most offer 
and they are not going to pay for 5 year hard drives. You can bet the 
quality of a Seagate or WD 1 year drive is nowhere near the quality of a 5 
year drive.


This thread is about other than name brand computers I assume. It is about 
who you purchase your hard drives from. My supplier, ASI 
http://www.asipartner.com/  packages their merchandise very well. Not only 
in packaging does the choice of supplier count, but also in who you buy your 
hard drive from. Having already been said, the 1 year drives going to the 
name brand manufacturers are the worst. Do you think Dell buys 3 year drives 
so they will be covered when a customer purchases the Dell 3 year extended 
warranty? I doubt it. My bets are Dell takes its chances on a 1 year drive 
for all Dells and hopes they last long enough to satisfy the Dell 3 year 
service agreements purchased on some of their computers.


Still, I have not gotten to your situation. Don't you think Seagate and WD 
ship their best 5 year drives to large wholesalers like ASI who have to 
continually defend their own reputation to OEM's they sell merchandise to? 
My bets are any 2nds do not go to ASI. So where do the 2nds go? What about 
the stores such as Circuit City, Office Depot, New Egg etc.? Why not 
consider New Egg as 2nd rate in quality? You, (not I) have already slammed 
the hell out of people like New Egg for crappy shipping. If the shoe fits, 
wear it.


If you are an OEM who orders multiple units such as hard drives, the 
solution is easy. Change to a supplier like ASI and get top notch service 
and packaging etc. If you are not licensed etc. to purchase at wholesale 
from suppliers like ASI, still avoid folks that do not package properly. 
Either find an OEM who will supply you or let that OEM build your computers 
to your specifications. This is if and only if you know that OEM does 
quality business from the choice of supplier to overall price and quality of 
components.


The bottom line is no matter who you are, you do not have to settle for 2nd 
rate packaging or merchandise. You can have quality, if you are an OEM or 
can find one who is honest and deals only in quality. You will pay a higher 
price for overall quality in service and product. Cheapskates (those who are 
bragging about that 500 watt power supply they found on the net for $29.95) 
should have deleted this post long before getting this far!


Chuck 



Re: [H] Seagate drive died

2007-05-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Seagate drive died




While your argument seems sound, it doesn't appear to agree with real 
world testing.  I have seen EB and BB drives fail by a factor of at least 
a factor of 5 over JB drives.  The EB/BB line are WD's one year warranty 
drives (with 2MB cache) while the JBs are the 3 year warranty drives (with 
8MB cache.)  So there is clearly a difference in quality, as my experience 
is based over several years with hundreds of drives.




I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything, but anyone who believes that 
WD EB's and BB's last as long as JB's are probably telling people that Dell 
uses quality parts, also. Once you nail down Dell in your mind to what they 
really are, the rest fall into their respective places, inferior to Dell. To 
qualify my statement about Dell, true, you can get premium parts if you 
order a unit that costs 1.5 or more times what a custom build with the same 
parts cost. Line for line Dell could not come close. But who besides me will 
even give a line item quote, custom builders included? And to boot I let 
customers bring their own parts and omit some of those lines if they want.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Seagate drive died

2007-05-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Seagate drive died




Thane, you also mentioned that most of the failures you see are in
big-vendor boxes...is it possible that those machines outfitted with WD's 
JB

series drives are also mounted better, or ventilated better, or are fitted
with a better PSU? I don't know one way or another, just suggesting the
possibility that there could be additional variables at play here.



Naturally most all components function better in a large, well ventilated 
case with an adequate power supply. Who but Dell is famous for omitting the 
CPU fan in many models. They rely on shrouding the airflow through a rear 
exhaust vent fan. That, along with the power supply fan makes a whopping 
total of 2 fans in those Dells. Mine have 2 power supply fans, 2 case fans 
and the CPU manufacturer's CPU fan, making a total of 5 fans.


True, name brand manufacturers used the cheaper 5400 RPM hard drives for 
years. I do not care what component we are talking about, if you find a way 
to build it cheaper and most of them last a year, Dell will be knocking on 
your door to buy it.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Seagate drive died

2007-05-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Seagate drive died




Speaking only regarding the CPU, the thermal solutions I see on many Dell
machines (esp. Dimension 9100, Precision 380's, 390's, 670's, etc) are far
superior to the retail box cooler AMD or Intel ship with their
processors--all while being less noisy. These models, at least, use a
temperature-controlled large diameter fan, and draw in cool outside air to
blow through a large heatpipe-enhanced heatsink.



Nice to hear that Dell treats the corporate world lots better. I am going to 
take a real job and one of my fears has been to use computers that are too 
slow or are out of service half the time.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Opteron 185 vs AM2/core2duo new build

2007-05-11 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:31 AM
Subject: [H] Opteron 185 vs AM2/core2duo new build




I have been contemplating a system upgrade of my AMD64 3700+ system. I 
know
the socket 939 is really at the end of its life, but I hate throwing out 
the

mb, cpu and memory to upgrade to the AM2 or core2 duo. The high end socket
939 chips have been disappearing. I ran across the Opteron 185, a socket 
939


Why hold onto other components that may be obsolete, also, especially if you 
feel you will have to buy Windows all over again? I do many rebuilds using 
the existing CPU and carry Windows XP OEM forward and Microsoft approves. 
Why not simply sell the working computer and build a new one from scratch? 
My experience has it figured both ways (rebuild vs. sell) and the difference 
in money outlay is hardly any. The difference if you get all new parts when 
you build from scratch. The life of my computers is 5 years, not 2. I 
certainly would not want to use a 2 or 3 year old power supply for a rebuild 
when I could sell off and build new. To do so would be expecting that power 
supply to last a total of 7 to 9 years. My new power supply would be of a 
higher wattage, of course!


Chuck 



Re: [H] Opteron 185 vs AM2/core2duo new build

2007-05-11 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Hardware List' 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Opteron 185 vs AM2/core2duo new build




I have no need to purchase Windows again. I have 2 retail copies of 
Windows

XP Pro and one Windows XP Home I don't even use since I also have a MAPS
subscription giving me 10 licenses for Windows XP Pro, and now Windows 
Vista


My comments were to help the typical upgrader to explore the possibilities 
of simply selling off their old unit and building a new one. As mentioned my 
main reason for this suggestion is to help people get the most mileage out 
of three expensive items, the case, the motherboard and Windows XP. 
Obviously none of my reasoning or suggestions apply to or are useable by 
you. All I seemed to hear in your post was, throwing out the

mb, cpu and memory

Typically there is lots more older technology in a box than those three 
components, evidently not applicable in your situation. In the typical sell 
off in preference to upgrade, the older motherboard, cpu and memory get to 
live on in the box they most likely were installed in originally.


Again, this does not apply in your situation, but I examined a upgrade 
request for a customer. True, I could have installed a new motherboard and 
cpu, but he could have benefited even more with a more powerful power 
supply. The new motherboard would call for a PCI Express video card and PC 
5300 RAM. A SATA hard drive would be in order. On and on it goes (not for 
you, but the typical customer) finding more and more things that just go 
better together. That upgrade turns into a new computer very fast.


You who are far more experienced than I please do not take my comments 
personal. I am sorry I failed to mention they may not apply to you but can 
be used by others. I have a habit of using scenarios or posts as a 
springboard to toss ideas to others who may be considering doing something 
similar to what you indicate you are doing.


Right off the top of a line item quote, I have saved many customers big 
bucks in rebuilds by letting their cpu and Windows XP live on (with several 
other salvageable components, also) in a rebuilt computer.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Power Supply

2007-05-08 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: [H] Power Supply





My brother just upgraded his computer to a core2 duo but the power supply
connector isn't large enough. It leaves 4 spots unplugged.



The bare minimum wattage that some say is ok (I highly disagree) of 200, 
250, 300, 350 or 400 watts that most name brand computer manufacturers and 
others use just is not enough.


You need at least a 450 watt power supply to comfortably handle any of the 
newer technology CPU's and the power consuming memory and video cards etc.


With this in mind, my bets are your brother's power supply is not 450 watts. 
If not, shop for a good 450 watt or higher power supply. Then check to see 
if the one you are considering buying has the 24 pin power connector. My 
bets are it does.


When you shop, pay good money. Do not be like some who brag, I can buy a 
500 watt power supply any day of the week for $29.95. True, and you can buy 
a poor excuse for a real computer by purchasing some name brand junk, also. 
If you want a good computer, have one custom built. If you want a quality 
power supply, pay good money, $50.00 and up for it. It is your money and 
your motherboard your power supply is hooked to.


If you hook to a cheap power supply (or continue with  one lower than 450 
watts) you often get bonus when it fails and burns up your motherboard. 
Often several other expensive components get toasted along with the deal.


In the long run, quality performs and quality lasts. Quality costs less to 
own and operate in the long run.


Or you can cheap out and hook up the 20 pin connector and hope for the best. 
In case you go the cheap or shortcut route,


If, acting on information passed on or given in the course of
reading this e-mail, or otherwise contained in any other form
of communication from me, something catastrophic happens to
either you, any one else, or to your / anyone else's property,
I deny any and all liability for anything that occurs.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Great freeware update checker

2007-04-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: [H] Great freeware update checker



Have you guys tried this?

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/04/04/file-hippo-releases-update-checker/



This brings up the question, If you are having no problems, is it wise to 
blindly install any update you hunt and find or it just comes your way? Take 
the long running Microsoft video drivers update fiasco, for example. More 
often than not, if you download the video update offered by Microsoft and 
install it, when you reboot your video colors are washed out and you have to 
uninstall the update.


I realize the standard first answer from technical support on most any 
problem, Download and install the latest updates. But again, is this safe 
when you are having no problems?


Chuck 



Re: [H] Can you configure an Airport Extreme over a wired connection?

2007-03-31 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Can you configure an Airport Extreme over a wired 
connection?




LOL, most of the WAP makers talk with emphasis on not
doing firmware
updates wirelessly. Does that same wireless only
software also do the
firmware upgrades? ;-)



Recently a customer who furnished all components except the case (she 
furnished the 750 watt modular power supply) and 2 hard drives, personally 
did a firmware update on one of her optical devices. She was doing this to 
comply with Windows Vista. She knew I had her new computer plugged into a 
UPS. She furnished the firmware on a CD she had copied it to. Why would 
anyone try to do a live update of firmware or a BIOS flash? Copying from a 
file with the computer hooked to a UPS greatly reduces the chances of an 
interruption.


Chuck 



Re: [H] -LO- 60 mile WIFI?

2007-03-29 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [H] -LO- 60 mile WIFI?




Gee, I wonder what that will do for security ???  I guess I won't be 
buying that 7db antenna for my Linksys after all. ;-)




Is anything being developed that will be affordable to the many who live in 
rural areas of the US? Around Southwest Georgia (which Albany is the hub of) 
there are only two games in town, ATT DSL and Mediacom Cable. Satellite is 
far too expensive and it seems that Verizon etc. have not set up wireless 
Internet service as of yet.


My question may sound elementary if I was referring to what is available 
right now, but I am not. I concede that nothing economical is available 
right now. I live close to the Southeast city limits line of Albany, GA and 
DSL is still not available in my area. People a mile South of me who live 
South of the city limits have DSL. They sure pick and choose! That area is 
far more sparsely populated and economically not as good a market as my 
area, yet they have DSL. If my memory serves me correctly, this is my 5th 
year with cable Internet. With gaps that wide in our area, there is no hope 
for either DSL or cable Internet for decades.


In the 50's and beyond, television and radio stations went to great lengths 
to penetrate the rural areas. They did not simply stay with low signals and 
thrive off of the metro areas, as the phone company is doing with its DSL 
service. They did not pick and choose and deny people living within city 
limits service for 5+ years a valuable service, such as the phone company is 
doing with DSL.


Are we relegated for decades to dial-up (those of us who can not afford 
$100.00 per month for Satellite Internet) or is the Calvary coming soon in 
some form of wireless and at a rate we can afford?


Chuck 



[H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-29 Thread chuck


This is for conversation, only. We know that Microsoft is far too greedy for 
their own good. I believe my ideas would pour more money into Microsoft than 
hackable Windows being sold pours in.


Can there be a hardware solution? Not with firmware that can be flashed such 
as the BIOS on motherboards.


What about a team effort with the CPU manufacturers and Microsoft to build 
the authority to run Windows into the CPU? Naturally this would have to 
start with a newer version of Windows in the future. Vista has already been 
hacked.


Microsoft would have to give a lot on this. First of all Microsoft would not 
be able to offer different versions of the operating system. Upgrades would 
be impossible if Windows was linked to the CPU. There could be only one 
version, the best!


Microsoft would have to trash their OEM policy. If Windows was linked to the 
CPU then Windows could be carried forward as far as the CPU could be carried 
forward. This would slow down rapid advances in technology that require new 
computers built around new CPU's. This would stimulate an industry that 
specialized in rebuilding computers around older CPU's that authorized that 
version of Windows to run. The trade off would be that in order to move up 
to a newer operating system, one would have to buy a new computer with a new 
CPU.


Does anyone care to comment on these ideas? If any agree with me that my 
ideas are workable, they wouild be practically admitting that the largest 
problem with operating system piracy is allowed by Microsoft. Microsoft 
refuses to use a hardware solution that can not be flashed. Have you ever 
heard of altering or flashing a CPU?


Chuck 





Re: [H] another dead MB/psu ?

2007-03-18 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [H] another dead MB/psu ?




They apparently draw more power than the motherboard can handle.  I'm 
willing to believe just about anything that has to do with poor 
engineering and the P4. :)




Motherboards are tough, at least the Asus ones I use are. How do I know? I 
will not embarrass myself or bore you with listing all of the stupid moves I 
have made and the motherboard survived. Sometimes it survived outright. 
Other times it played possum for awhile after my goof to scare me. I assume 
thermal sensors had tripped and they reset themselves several minutes later, 
after I had came close to calling it dead.


What caliber of goofs with motherboards am I unwilling to mention? Well at 
http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=jA2tsrQIqwQ%3D  you will find 
these words, Coy! What? Well, how'd you get that big motorcycle up there on 
the high dive, Coy?  My goofs are in this category, yet those Asus boards 
survive!


There are two kinds of computer technicians. 1. The pure goofballs who do 
not have enough sense to admit they make mistakes. They think they are too 
good to make a mistake that would fry a board.  2. Those of us who make 
crazy mistakes and admit them, even if we are too embarrassed to give 
details.


Examples: What is worse than the case you intend to mount a motherboard into 
falling off the bench? The motherboard falling off the bench also. What is 
even worse than that? The motherboard is already hooked to the case via all 
of the power supply wires. Asus, just like Timex, takes a licking and keeps 
on ticking!


Never have I had an Intel CPU die.

Chuck 



Re: [H] OT Time to rant about finance programs

2007-03-11 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [H] OT Time to rant about finance programs




QuickBooks



I would change from Peachtree to QuickBooks if QuickBooks wanted to take 
enough Peachtree customers to write a program to import Peachtree Data. I 
will not start all over again to change.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)

2007-03-03 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Re: Apple OS X vs. Vista (Apple side)




I suppose at some point the OS source code would get so convoluted
from all the patches that you're better off starting from scratch.



Not if Microsoft simply slipstreamed a comprehensive XP Service Pack 3 into 
a DVD that allowed you to install any version of Windows XP that you had a 
legal Product Key for. They could sell those DVD's for around twenty bucks 
(including shipping). At the outset, a selection screen would appear that 
listed all versions of Windows XP on the DVD. It would have a place to enter 
your Product Key. If you had selected the wrong version, it would tell you. 
Better yet, it could select the correct version from the Product Key you 
entered. Far too simple, right! Not near as much profit to be made as will 
be with Vista.


A yearly auxillary DVD containing all popular drives up to that date would 
be handy, also. It could be shipped along with the SP 3 DVD.


Chuck 



Re: [H] -ot- Asus RMA ?

2007-03-02 Thread chuck

510-739-3777 #3 RMA

- Original Message - 
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:38 PM
Subject: [H] -ot- Asus RMA ?


anyone have a new link for Asus RMA ? old link is broke and of course they 
never respond to emails and phones calls with the accent is hard.

because of this I will probably never buy another Asus MB.
old link was:
http://rma.asus.com/enduser/






Re: [H] Connecting a DVD changer to HTPC?

2007-02-26 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:40 PM
Subject: [H] Connecting a DVD changer to HTPC?



Anyone experimented with this?  A possible alternative to several TB
of HD space would be to get something like this:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=9723273/



When we talk about high quantity data storage on optical disks, aren't DVD's 
already obsolete as far as serious consideration goes? When my planning for 
the future advances to hard drive space vs. optical disk data storage, I 
think in terms of Blue Ray, not DVD's. This brings up two questions:


1. Who is your vote for, Blue Ray or HD-DVD?

2. Which one will win? I hope we do not end up with a hung jury on this one! 
I hope Blue Ray does to HD-DVD what VHS did to Beta tapes and what IBM 
clones did to Macs.


I hope Blue Ray will offer 3 inch diameter disks, like CD's and DVD's did. 
Can you imagine how many MP3's will fit on a Blue Ray 3 inch diameter disk? 
Those will work well in multi media players that play most all formats in 
CD, DVD and Blue Ray, audio and movies.



Chuck 



Re: [H] Kite Flying

2007-02-26 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Zulfiqar, Naushad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: [H] Kite Flying



Hey guys any of you here into stunt kite flying?



Every time I tried to fly one, the observers thought it was doing stunts. 


Chuck


Re: [H] Connecting a DVD changer to HTPC?

2007-02-26 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Connecting a DVD changer to HTPC?



For the time being I am completely ignoring both Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
I hate being taken advantage of by Sony et al and will not put up for
it.



I forgot to give my current solution to the need for storage space.

I just ordered this from beachcamera.com

 Western Digital 500GB My Book Essential { High Speed USB 2.0 } 
External Hard Drive



 SKU: WDMBE500U

 $177.00 included shipping and no sales tax was added.  I did not mean 
that a bunch of us should run out and buy either Blue Ray or HD DVD anytime 
soon. I will wait a year or two for the shakedown, in confidence in one of 
the formats and great prices. When I speak of price drops I mean the type of 
drops you get by dropping a zero on the dollar side as in $1000.00 to 
$100.00. I realize that price drops of this magnitude do not occur in days 
or weeks nor do they occur in one or two increments.


 Rigid high prices or lack of the most effective endorsements could be 
the death blow to Sony or anyone. I hope the masses take the wait and see 
attitude. If and when either Blue Ray or HD DVD have a solid win and I can 
buy their reader for $100.00 and their writer for $300.00 I will gladly take 
the plunge. This is if the media is affordable, unlike Hewlett Packard 
printer toner and ink. I realize about 10% of the buying public are well 
heeled and will buy new products at most any price. Then there are the ones 
who are addicted to staying ahead of the Joneses and they will give the same 
priority to a new gadget that a gambling addict gives to their habit.


 Back to my latest purchase. I will have 500 GB of storage for only 
$177.00. Blue Ray offers only 50 GB and you have to use dual layer to get 
this, right? I read that HD DVD offers only 30 GB.


 Do you see where I am going with this? I want a Cable box or some go 
between that will allow me to hook up my 500 GB USB external hard drive and 
feed high definition movies to my Receiver (for audio) and to my high 
definition television. Better yet, how about a 500 GB high definition hard 
drive recorder that will record movies. It needs to have a Blue Ray or HD 
DVD writer built in so high definition movies on its huge hard drive can be 
copied to disks.


 The recorder can wait. Right now I need a way to play movies that I 
copy to my new 500 GB external hard drive. I feel that USB will feed fast 
enough to view movies. It certainly feeds fast enough to burn movies 
directly from it to my DVD Writer, but that is not in high definition.


 Chuck - the high tech redneck (or country boy) however you describe 
somebody raised in the rurals.




































Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates

2007-02-19 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates 





http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/





Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates

2007-02-19 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates




http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/



The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed and 
have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January update 
and then the current February update? Or can I just run the February update 
and it covers everything since November?


Chuck 



Re: [H] bottom of the line

2007-02-16 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [H] bottom of the line




that is why it is bottom of the line.
What do you expect for 280 bucks. I pay 200 bucks for my power supply!


He is not joking! One of my customers brought me a $200.00 600 watt power 
supply along with a $600.00 512 MB video card to install into a computer I 
was building for her.


The main differences in expensive components vs. standard components for the 
builder are you are lots more careful with assembly, Electrostatic Discharge 
prevention etc.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Motherboard replacement

2007-01-25 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Motherboard replacement



Why bother trying, switch the case out for new when
you replace the
mobo/cpu/etc. Reuse everything that is viable and
standard.



That is my fix for all name brand junkers. Do y'all realize that there are 
only 2 proprietary major components that are used to make a name brand 
computer a dog instead of a real computer? They are its junky case and its 
motherboard.


I can take an Enlight case with a 350 watt power supply and use a MSI PM8M-V 
motherboard (with video, audio, LAN etc. onboard)  and rebuild a name brand 
computer that has a Socket 478 Intel CPU? I use the customer's CPU and add a 
twenty dollar CPU fan if theirs is non existient (Dell is famous for 
omitting CPU fans in many models). I use the customer's memory, hard drive 
and optical device(s). Where I really save the customer money is by using 
their Windows XP Home OEM version which Microsoft always authenticates and 
validates.


I have rebuilt many name brand computers, many of which were operational 
when I started. Yes, by simply changing out the case and motherboard and 
doing a clean install of Windows, the computer runs much faster. Actually 
half of that performance increase can be achieved by simply formatting the 
hard drive and doing a clean install of Windows.


For 10 years I have greatly improved the performance of any name brand 
computer that I worked on, even if I have been prevented from replacing any 
of its cheap and inferior hardware. My customers constantly ask the 
question, Why didn't my computer manufacturer use the same hardware that 
you had to work with and give me the performance you gave to me?


Yes, I would love to furnish a new case and motherboard and increase the RAM 
to 512 and format the hard drive and do a clean install for every name brand 
computer in Albany, GA which has a Socket 478 CPU. I know the performance 
would be greatly increased and another 5 years of life could be breathed 
into a name brand clunker, for as little as $250.00.


Yes, swich the case out, also. Transform any name brand comptuer into a real 
computer!


Chuck 



Re: [H] Portable DVD Player.. as mp3 player

2007-01-21 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Portable DVD Player.. as mp3 player


I can't speak for every playerbut I have a dvd player that plays mp3s 
recording on a dvd-r, but I can't reemmber if it's dvd-r or dvd+r.




Isn't the -R or +R identification on the DVD that you copied the files to? 
Correct me if I am wrong but my choice has been -R from the beginning on 
CD's and DVD's because I concluded that media on -R disks will play on more 
players than other formats. I love to share so I have to be concerned with 
the wide variety of players my family, friends and customers own.


Chuck




Re: [H] Portable DVD Player.. as mp3 player

2007-01-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: rls [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: [H] Portable DVD Player.. as mp3 player



I was looking at the Sony Portable DVD Player, and I am thinking about
getting it to play my mp3 from a recorded DVD. Only 5.5 hours to battery
time, but most of the time I would have access to a power outlet anyway.



We think we can get over 1500 songs on a disk by recording MP3's to a DVD -R 
instead of a CD -R that will hold only about 200 songs in the MP3 format. 
Most, (if not all) DVD or CD players that play MP3's will not play them if 
they are recorded or copied onto a DVD -R. Am I correct on this? You are 
limited to copying your MP3's to a CD -R ( -R is my preference all the way 
around as I do not use +R or Rewritables). Again, somebody please clear this 
up for me. I wish any player that is capable of playing MP3's would play 
them from a DVD -R disk they are on.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Portable DVD Player.. as mp3 player

2007-01-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Portable DVD Player.. as mp3 player




My Philips DVP 642 plays MP3 DVD-R disks just fine  I have over a 1000 
tunes on some.  While this is not a portable player I would imagine that 
there would be one out there. I would check at videohelp.com as they list 
all that stuff.




You knew what my next question would be. Who will win the next round, Blue 
Ray or HD - DVD and how many MP3's can be copied to one of those disks? Why 
have a CD changer? With a Blue Ray or HD - DVD player one disk can hold 
several thousand songs. The late Dave Gardner, Comedian said at the 
beginning of the flip side of one of his LP's, If you had bought two 
records you would not have had to get up and turn this record over. Many of 
those recording artists did not live long enough to see their songs and 
videos on Blue Ray or HD - DVD.


Chuck




Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard

2007-01-08 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Pentium-M desktop motherboard



Aopen makes one but its rather spendy



Are you thinking you can save by using an older CPU which requires an older 
motherboard with an AGP video slot and DDR or PC 133 RAM? You could have a 
couple of years ago when I sold Celeron CPU's for around $120.00 and P4 
CPU's for $220.00 and up. Now the Celerons have been discontinued and the 
P4' (if there are any left at my supplier) and the Pentium D's (Dual Core) 
have been reduced to only around $120.00. This means it is to your advantage 
to bypass that Pentium M and get a Pentium D and a motherboard with a PCIe 
video slot and slots for DDR2 RAM. Why bend over backwards and go with all 
old technology to save $120.00 on a CPU that gives you a lots slower older 
CPU??


For a few years after Windows XP came out, people wanted older and out of 
date computers to run their older software. Many had their new computers 
built with older technology to accommodate their older software. Your 
progression should be led by advances in hardware and the CPU takes the 
lead. Motherboards and everything else is built around the CPU.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Pig slow disc-to-disc file copies...

2006-12-29 Thread chuck






Surely this ain't right, right?  Yeah, we're talking a nearly 60 GB load, 
but damn!




At my worst I have typically copied withing Windows using Windows Commander 
at the rate of 7 minutes per GB. This figures out to 420 minutes or 7 hours 
to copy 60 GB. For me this is tolerable considering that I get to choose 
which folders I want copied. When I really need to rock and roll, I Ghost in 
Real DOS Mode and copy at the rate of 1 GB per minute. This job would have 
taken me only an hour with Ghost. Note that when copying with Ghost in Real 
DOS mode I have to overwrite a whole partition with the source partition.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-28 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software


their machines and then they buy NOD32.  If someone is shopping at 
Walmart for a security product, they deserve to get owned.




Or for a computer!

I had to take advantage of that statement of yours!

Chuck


Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-25 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Glazier(Gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [H] W98se questions



Chuck, Just a quick question...
When you install XP clean, do you start with SP2 on the CD
(integrated or embedded) or are you using olders CDs and (or)
talking about re-installs...



Absolutely! I would use nothing less than a Microsoft Windows XP CD with SP2 
slipstreamed. In fact the ones I use now claim to be with SP2b, whatever 
that means. That is the very problem when the end user does their own 
reinstallations, especially when they use the computer manufacturer's 
restore CD. They miss any service packs that came out later. I am convinced 
that you get a cleaner job with both or all of your service packs 
slipstreamed. You simply do not get this when you do it yourself using the 
computer manufacturer's reinstall process, if it is older than the latest 
service pack.


Note that I have about 2 GB used after installation of the Windows XP CD 
with SP2b slipstreamed. It is after I apply the Auto Patcher application and 
the rest of the Microsoft updates that I see around 7 GB used. But with 320 
GB hard drives being commonplace now (you name branders, don't even think 
about it, as you get far less) on custom built quality computers, surely you 
can spare a measly 80 GB partition to host your operating system and 3 other 
80's for your data.


Chuck 



Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-23 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: dhs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: [H] W98se questions




Is there anyone on the list that can still discuss W98se?
I'd like to trade questions offline/backchannel.



The best booster I have found for clean installs of Windows 98 SE and 
Millennium is the Security Update CD from Microsoft dated February, 2004. 
I run this comprehensive automatic update (comparable to Auto Patcher for 
Windows XP) and then I proceed to download the rest of the updates from 
Microsoft. It would take a very long time to download all of the updates for 
98SE, Me or XP from Microsoft. I am very thankful for boosters such as these 
I have mentioned.


Just to give you an idea of how extensive the updates are for XP, I have 
about 2 GB of space used on Drive C after I install XP. After I update it I 
have around 7 GB of space used on Drive C. This is relative, of course. I 
would guess that 98SE uses about 500 MB freshly installed and around 700 MB 
after being updated and Millennium around 700 MB when freshly installed and 
around 1.2 GB after being updated. It seems the space required for all of 
the updates is far more space than is required for the initial install.


Chuck




Re: [H] dell PSU ?

2006-12-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [H] dell PSU ?




I suppose you could get a larger PS  bolt it to the top of that nice Dell 
case but your best bet is to get a standard case  PS then rebuild the 
whole thing praying that the Dell mombo lines up with the mountings in the 
new case.




It has been my standard procedure since I have been in business to move name 
brand computers to a new case to provide a new power supply. If the customer 
loves their crappy case so much they have a problem with a decent case, I 
send them to another shop. My price? The same as others charge to put the 
same low wattage power supply in the original case. You may say I throw in 
the case for free, but charge for a power supply and labor. My standard is 
450 watts for a P4. The customer gets 5 fans in the case compared to 1 or 
none in their original case.


Seldom do we see follow up advice for situations like these. True, the 
customer needs an innovative work around for proprietary junk they currently 
own (in this situation a move to a decent case.) What they really need is 
very strong advice to buy a real (generic all the way!) computer next time.


Chuck 



Re: [H] need video editing software.

2006-12-08 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: RLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Hardware List' 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:52 PM
Subject: [H] need video editing software.




The only thing I would really like to change is the removal of about the
lowest 1/16 of an inch at the bottom of screen. That's were there are
vestiges of tracking squiggles or irregularities. If I could just chop off
the lowest horizontal lines I would be very happy



I am doing the same thing, not with my computer but with a DVD recorder that 
has a VCR built in. The newer VCR's are supposed to have automatic tracking 
adjustment. Big laugh! I feel it is a nice way of telling the customer that 
they left off the tracking adjustment mechanism to save money in building 
the thing. Needless to say the automatic tracking adjustment (if there is 
one) does not adjust the tracking properly. I end up with those 
irregularities at the bottom, also. I am new to this procedure of recording 
my VHS tape material to DVD's. I will slowly record all I want to keep and 
live with the lack of clarity etc. that goes along with the process. At 
least I am stopping the video from getting worse with age.


Chuck 



Re: [hardware] [H] Anybody know what happed to Autopatcher

2006-12-04 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Hardware List' 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: RE: [hardware] [H] Anybody know what happed to Autopatcher




http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/System-Tweak/AutoPatcher-XP.shtml - 
works

http://ftp.teol.net/dload/updates/ap/AutoPatcher_XP_Nov06_ENU_Full.exe -
works

Both of those are mirrors on the download page



Thank you very much! I looked around and was unable to find the links you 
just listed. The first one works very well. I should have my download 
complete in about 30 minutes.


Chuck 



Re: [hardware] [H] Anybody know what happed to Autopatcher

2006-12-03 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Hardware List' 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [hardware] [H] Anybody know what happed to Autopatcher




Here is a direct download. Much faster than the Torrent I was using

ftp://autopatcher.fbdn.net/



I tried this and another link and still can not download the file. Is there 
some simple link that Outlook Express can be used to access and download it? 
I do not care if it is slow. I can let it download all night if need be.


Thanks in advance,

Chuck 



Re: [hardware] [H] Anybody know what happed to Autopatcher

2006-12-02 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [hardware] [H] Anybody know what happed to Autopatcher



http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads



Usually I get the runaround when trying to download Autopatcher. If you have 
the actual link for Autopatcher for XP, English FULL for November, please 
post it for us. When I click on the link within the above link I get a bunch 
of hypertext and no link to do the download.


Chuck




Re: [H] Network copy Vs USB copy Sharing My Documents

2006-11-14 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Network copy Vs USB copy  Sharing My Documents




Another nice thing if you find a user account screwed up and are using 
fast user switching withthe welcome screen:  If no one is logged in you 
can press CTRL-ALT-DEL Twice on the Select your user screen and the normal 
windows login prompt will come up.


Way too often using username Administrator with no password gives you full 
access to their system, even if they have a user account they forgot to 
give you the password for.




I used the example of a customer bringing me a hard drive merely as an 
illustration. I prefer they not do this. My point is if all you have is 
their hard drive because their motherboard has died or for another reason, 
how to you remove data protection?


In many situations their computer will not be up and running until I have 
formatted their hard drive and installed Windows again. When I said I can 
copy this protected data I was referring to a Ghost clone of the whole Drive 
C. Naturally I can not copy just one folder (My Documents) of protected 
data.


I am not talking about corrupted hard drives, damaged hard drives or any 
problem other than the data being protected. I am referring to the situation 
where I can not open the My Documents folder or copy it, once I have 
attached the hard drive that hosts it to my shop computer.


Thanks,

Chuck 



Re: [H] Network copy Vs USB copy Sharing My Documents

2006-11-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Network copy Vs USB copy  Sharing My Documents



I'm going to take this to the next level for Chuck.

Running with NO hard drive only proves that can be done,
and that nothing from the original system hard drive is needed
to get access to what ever other hardware will be found...
(Remember, this is all done IN the original system --- never
even opening the case...)



I downloaded the PC Beginner CD ISO file and burned the bootable CD. I hope 
this is the simple way to unlock data in the My Documents file. Again, I am 
really not interested in using the customer's computer for any of this. For 
conversation sake, let's assume the customer's computer has a dead 
motherboard but all data on the hard drive is intact. I have a shop computer 
specifically for working with other hard drives etc. I can easily work with 
up to 6 hard drives attached, 4 IDE and 2 SATA. I want to be confident I can 
unlock data using my shop computer and copy it to a folder on another hard 
drive. I should not have to worry about anything in a customer's computer 
but its hard drive. I should feel confident to copy all of a customer's My 
Documents data to a new computer I am building for them, even if all they 
bring to me is their hard drive. Again, copying the data has never been a 
probelm. Unlocking it has.


Thanks,

Chuck 



Re: [H] Network copy Vs USB copy Sharing My Documents

2006-11-12 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Network copy Vs USB copy  Sharing My Documents




It can be done but you must be running Pro on all machines  turn off 
Simple File Sharing. Some people cheat by having the same admin user name 
 pwd on all the machines  the respective shares but really each machine 
should have it's own unique admin user name  pwd  those users should be 
listed on the other machines users snap in.




Most computers I repair are running XP Home OEM and the user most often has 
no clue as to what the Administrator account is. My goal and objective is to 
recover all data in the Favorites folder and the My Documents folder. Many 
have the user account password protected. Many can not boot Windows due to a 
crashed hard drive, messed up Windows or bad motherboard.


I did get a customer's Windows XP to boot up on my shop computer by hooking 
their hard drive to my computer and booting into Safe Mode. I got rid of 
their password, but still I could not access their data on the next boot 
into Safe Mode.


What is the most simple way to access their data with their hard drive 
hooked to my shop computer as a slave drive? Remember, I most often do not 
get to work on their computer until after their data has become protected 
and after it will no longer boot into Windows. I do not have any opportunity 
to prepare in advance for non accessbile data.


Thanks in advance,

Chuck 



Re: [H] Cell phone records

2006-10-10 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Cell phone records


Me too.  However, her function was computer-related, though I'm not sure 
in what capacity.  She claimed to be very computer savvy and said that 
people underestimated her.  How foolish of them. is how she ended that 
statement.




A very quiet exit from her life without yielding to the temptation to fire 
any parting shots is your best move. Years of law enforcement experience 
taught me that the blue code protects officers from much of their 
evildoing (lawbreaking). This sounds like Congress, doesn't it? 
Professional courtesy when a law enforcement officer gets a traffic stop 
is another one that often goes way too far. The bottom line is never 
underestimate what a person can do once they get to the point they do not 
care, law enforcement officer or not. The recent Amish school shootings are 
an expample of that. When the same is applied to a nomal citizen who has 
somewhat more protection (such as gun toters who think they are bulletproof) 
the deadly assault is called an ambush. This means a tad more effort was 
required. So make your very quiet exit and hope some sort of an ambush is 
not used on you.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Cell phone records

2006-10-10 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Cell phone records


Oh no. This woman didn't claim any knowledge until afterwards.  Dial-up 
connection at home, old Win98 computer.  At work is a different story,


If it is any consolation, she has not been smart or mean enough to hook a 
rich married man and blackmail him into buying her a dream machine. A dream 
machine is a three thousand dollar Dell.


Chuck 



Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation

2006-10-08 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation



Out of curiosity, what did the customer need from XP Pro?



This was a know it all customer who does not wish to discuss their reasons 
for their decisions. My orders were to simply do it when he handed me the 
Windows XP Professional Upgrade version that he had paid $180.00 for 30 days 
after he has paid me $90.00 for the line item (my new computers are sold 
piece by piece on a line item quote) Windows XP Home OEM. Backtracking, that 
same know it all attitude was displayed when he ordered his new computer 
with Windows XP Home OEM. Have you noticed that people who know it all have 
used that knowlege to acquire more money in a year that most of us will earn 
in a decade? They can not stand a poor man telling them how to invest.


This same customer prides himself in owing the first computer I ever built 
as a business in May, 1998 and is out to prove that what I build runs 
forever, or at least for as long as he lives.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Is Vista going to be that much better than XP Pro?

2006-10-08 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Is Vista going to be that much better than XP Pro?




Are they still selling those Linspire PC's?



Is that the one that came with Linux for $100.00?

I can put cheap name brand computers into a decent case and on a decent 
motherboard for as little as $200.00 so certain deals can be worth buying 
for the Windows, CPU, memory, hard drive and optical devices that come with 
them. This is especially true if the motherboard is inoperative on an 
existing computer. Many who slam name brand computers do not realize that 
there are only 2 components that brand them, their cheap case and their 
cheap motherboard, and, of course the way Windows is installed on them. A 
clean install of Windows on a new motherboard in a decent case, and presto! 
You have a clone generic computer! I do not have connections upstairs to 
clean install and authenticate Windows. My connections are in India!


Chuck 



Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation

2006-10-07 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation



love that, wait for Vista @ $400



That will finish me as an OEM. Microsoft and Intel are widening the gap of 
the expense to Dell to build a computer and the rest of us. Asus is already 
building lots cheaper motherboards to try to help us compete, all to no 
avail. Seldom seen are the Asus true flagship large footprint motherboards. 
Most have been replaced by the baby boards. Replacing $100.00 motherboards 
with $50.00 motherboards is not going to get the job done when our price on 
Windows goes up to double what it is now and Dell still gets Windows at a 
token.


I have no plans to purchase Vista and continue building computers.

Chuck 



Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation

2006-10-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation


How are you the OEM? What equipment are you a manufacturer of? Assembling 
a computer now and then does not make you an OEM.




If I am not an OEM, why did Microsoft accept my compnay as a Microsoft OEM 
System Builder Program Member?


Chuck




Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation

2006-10-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation


All of my OEM windows provide a license to use that copy one one computer. 
If the legal BS says it can only be used on that one PC, then that ought 
to be illegal. It's likely unenforceable anyhow. The fact that I get it 
cheaper because I bought a full system is simply an aid to move systems 
and to move MSs OS.  Hence, from an economical POV, it's to MSs advantage 
to do so.


You can discuss and debate it all you want. You can install your Windows XP 
OEM software on any computer you want using the Product Key on your COA. It 
is when activation fails and you have to call Microsoft you get your answer. 
Microsoft either gives you the 42 digit Authentication code after you give 
them the 54 digit Installaton code or they do not. If you lose, no appeals.


So far I have won during all of my calls, even when I used as little as one 
component (the CPU) from the original computer that Windows XP OEM bearing 
that Product Key was activated on.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Weird Thumb Drive Problem

2006-09-27 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird Thumb Drive Problem




I've never seen this before  you would think I would with C, D being 
local HDs, E, F,  G being optical drives, H, I are mapped drives


Starting back in the Windows 95 days where the only drive other than the 
hard drive was a CD ROM and possibly a Zip Drive, I assigned the Drive 
Letter R to all CD ROMS and when there were two optical drives I assigned Q 
to the writer. I did this for all computers I worked on and for all new 
computers I built. I explaned to my customers that the future would bring 
additional drives and there should be plenty of space between the group, 
A,B,C,D etc. and R for those additional drives. This would ensure that the 
optical drives never got reassigned due to adding other drives in the 
future.


That decision was badly needed and the timing on it was perfect. Now we have 
jump drives, external hard drives and card readers, just to name a few. So 
far I have not seen any computer I assigned optical drive letters of Q 
and/or R run out of lower letters and the optical drive have to be bumped up 
in the alphabet.


Most of the Windows 95 computers I assigned the CD ROM drive to R did not 
remain in use so long that they needed that space between D and Q. The 
customers got use to the arrangement and the transition to a new computer 
was easy, if they had me build their next new computer. This is just one of 
the many things I have done over the years to keep things simple and require 
less changes to adapt to new drives and technologies.


Now to the subject at hand. Is it easier for a thumb drive to simply take an 
open Letter Assignment if it does not have to bump an optical drive up a 
letter?


Chuck 



Re: [H] Weird Mouse Problem

2006-09-26 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Alt Cpu hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:39 PM
Subject: [H] Weird Mouse Problem


On my home desktop. Windows Xp Pro everything updated just suddenly 
started acting asif the mouse had gone bad. When you open a window, any


Very seldom is the problem hardware related, such as a bad PS/2 keyboard or 
mouse port. When it is, you can circumvent it (patch job) by using a USB 
keyboard or mouse.


As a technician I have found a very valuable diagnostic tool to be Windows 
98 installed on a small IDE hard drive. Windows 98 will load in Safe Mode on 
most any IBM compatible computer. Just unhook your hard drive and hook up 
the hard drive containing Windows 98. If you are using a SATA hard drive, 
there is no need to unhook it. Most computers try first to boot to an IDE 
hard drive if one is hooked up.


Hit F8 and select Safe Mode. Once Windows 98 is loaded in Safe Mode you will 
have use of your mouse and keyboard. If your mouse and keyboard work here 
(but did not work in Windows XP) there is nothing wrong that a format and 
reinstall job will not fix. I just fixed a keyboard problem yesterday by 
formatting and reinstalling. I tried the built in Windows XP Restore thingy 
but that did not solve the problem.


So here we go again, the patch 'em up team who loves to fix Windows 
screaming, Do not format! Fix it! And we on the format and reinstall team, 
Don't tune it up, just replace the engine! (Windows XP). This sounds like 
the Democrats and Republicans, doesn't it?


The only thing I kick myself for is fooling around trying to fix it for a 
few minutes before going ahead with the format and reinstall job. When the 
internal Restore thingy works, it goes home and comes back a week later with 
the same problem. The results of most patch jobs are the same.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Recovery of Hd w/o partition?

2006-08-18 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Julian Zottl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:30 AM
Subject: [H] Recovery of Hd w/o partition?



Hey all,
I have a client that just brought me a PC with a HD that appears to have 
no partitions on it (It shows up unallocated in XP). This was definitely a 
bootable volume previously.




I have sucessfully used a feature of Acronis True Image that is designed to 
find and let you tell it to recover deleted partitons. As you already know 
any procedure is risky. I have often seen Partition Magic display partitions 
that were working as BAD. I ignored this and backed up any valuable data and 
continued to use the computer. If a partition is readable, back up the data. 
Do not try to fix partitions that are shown as BAD by any software. As 
always, this advice is for the less experienced. The rest of us learned by 
trashing workable partitions trying to improve, correct or fix them.


Chuck




Re: [H] Oh, how I miss the KeyLock

2006-08-12 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:13 AM
Subject: [H] Oh, how I miss the KeyLock


I have a few clients who are looking for something that years ago would 
have
 been simple.  They want to lock their PC so that their kids, etc. cannot 
use


My comments do not apply to you since you are seeking a hardware solution. 
The first level of Windows XP password protection is very weak but the 
second level is better. This means the first level is easier to work around 
and the second level more difficult. Don't forget the higher level of 
security that password protecting the BIOS offers. Doesn't working around 
that require entering the computer and doing the proper physical 
manipulation? It has for the ones that I worked around to repair computers.


What about drilling a hole in the case and installing a small DC current key 
on/off switch and cut and hook the (most likely blue and white) power switch 
wire to it? The key switch would have to be in the On position before the 
power switch would work.


I sent those new AT computers out the door with the keys on their ring 
hanging from the case rear vent fan hole. For the most part, it did not 
matter how many years it was before the computer came back for repairs, 
those keys were still hanging there. For the most part I showed the customer 
the keys and explained what they were for, when they picked up their new 
computer. At least my method prevented the customer from losing the keys. I 
also have always put the manuals and driver software and OS CD kit in the 
same box I removed the motherboard from. This often prevented loss of these 
things and provided a neat filing box or folder for these items. Instead 
of trying to tell the customer which software to bring in with the computer 
(when repairs were needed) I just asked them to bring that motherboard box.


Chuck 



Re: [H] One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures

2006-08-10 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [H] One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures


That's the whole point.  It was never backed up to anything and the 
originals are lost.




I realize you are discussing data most likely saved on analog tape. Until 
recording started being done digitally from the beginning, the original, it 
was very important to have the original to make copies from. Copies made 
from copies had less quality. Once analog material is recorded digitally the 
loss of quality stops there. Take the films of the assasination of President 
Kennedy, for example. The loss of quality was frozen in time once those 
images were digitally recorded. Now copies can be made from copies and if 
the quality is down to a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10 it will remain at a 3. My 
point is what value or extra quality can any digital original recording 
have? Copies do not lose quality. If it looks so good that it rates a 9 on a 
scale of 1 to 10, it will hold its 9 no matter how many copies are made from 
copies. True, this is elementary for most of you, but interesting to think 
about. Does it justify my buying a DVD camcorder when I have a 8 mm tape 
camcorder? Just a reherotical question. That looks wrong but Spell Check did 
not correct it.


Chuck




Re: [H] Problem after partition merge

2006-08-01 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Problem after partition merge




I would've used XP's convert from the FAT32 to NTFS then instead of 
merging slowly resize partitions as need with PM has always worked for me 
copying the files over from 1 partition to the other manually.


My success has been the same and I work the same as Wayne. I do not 
associate converting with resizing partitions. I consider converting as one 
function that I have Windows do one partition at a time. If I use Partition 
Magic I do not stack functions by ordering a series of more than one and 
then executing them. I select one function at a time and get it done first, 
then select another etc. Others have agreed that Partition Magic is more 
likely to ruin your data when it is attempting to run a sequence of 
commands.


Evidently your computer is running since you are reading this. If you have 
valuable data on your hard drive, back it up before you shut your computer 
down. I often add comments for all (including those with less experience in 
losing data) with many of my posts. So this is not to insult the 
intelligence of the few who practice good backup procedures. If you believe 
that your next shutdown is risky, surely you will believe that a conversion, 
a split, resize or merge is a very risky procedure. You will back up your 
data before you do this (unless you are impatient as I am at times and feel 
that I can do this thing, just this once.) I guess the big question is how 
did you go for weeks and accumulate all of that data on just one hard drive 
and not back it up along the way?


We still insist on thinking that a hard drive is for permanent storage and 
not just a temporary holding area for data. Some ask why we need 300 to 750 
GB hard drives if we are not to consider them permanent storage areas. That 
space is to keep your data in a location that allows easy access while you 
are using your computer, not to permanently store it. Now that 4.5 GB per 
DVD disk is obsolete the same as a 1.44 MB floppy is obsolete, bring on Blue 
Ray! I have 100 GB on a partition I would like to back up on one permanent 
disk. In the past we did not want a pile of floppies. Later we did not want 
a pile of zip disks. Then we did not want a pile of 700 MB CD's. Now it 
would take a pile of DVD's to back up a partition that contains 100 GB of 
data.



Chuck 



Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [H] USB devices not being released...

2006-07-28 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Bobby Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [H] USB devices not being released...



You can't close them as far as I know.  They have services that run all of
the time.



I usually click on Stop a 2nd time and that works for me over 90% of the 
time. Do not simply unplug a USB external hard drive or switch it off. This 
may mess up the file and/or partition structure thus making the data 
unreadable. Been there, done that. Shut the computer down before you switch 
off or unplug the external hard drive, unless your clicking on Stop 
worked.


Chuck




Re: [H] NIS Security center ?

2006-07-28 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [H] NIS Security center ?




I really hate the new Norton and McAfee stuff for consumers. Hell McAfee 
will not even let dnetc ( rc5) run, deletes it immediately. err

fp


Is there any simple way to access data that Norton or McAfee encrypted (such 
as documents in the My Documents Folder) when the hard drive containing the 
data is hooked to a different computer? There are many reasons why the 
computer that hosts the hard drive will not boot into Windows. Two I can 
think of real fast are 1. Windows is not bootable OR 2. The motherboard is 
dead in the computer that hosted the hard drive. I have been unable to 
recover customer's data several times recently due to one or both of these 
problems. I guess there is no substitute for properly backing up important 
data to writable media. Most customers have no idea their data is being 
encrypted when they install one of these products.


Chuck 



Re: [H] BTX?

2006-07-21 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [H] BTX?




Gonna be expensive, need new CPU, new mobo, new memory, new PCI-X video
card.



The most often not thought of factor is the loss of a working computer, one 
that can be sold and the proceeds used towards the cost of building a 
totally new computer. I have many times came up with figures similar to what 
I am showing here.


These are round figures being used for example and do not reflect actual 
costs, but are close.


To rebuild a computer you throw away a working motherboard, CPU memory etc. 
and you most likely will have to pay $90.00 to purchase Windows again since 
you were most likely using OEM. Microsoft looks closer at the CPU than any 
other component when they think in terms of a new computer, not an upgrade. 
You spend from $500.00 to $700.00 upgrading your old Windows XP computer and 
you often have used parts in your upgrade job, such as a used case etc. 
Total net outlay - $500.00 to $700.00 resulting in only one workable 
computer.


To simply sell the old Windows XP computer for around $300.00 you have these 
proceeds to apply towards the new computer you build which costs you around 
$1000.00 (Including $90.00 for Windows XP Home OEM, more for Pro). After you 
sell the old one and apply the proceeds towards the cost to build a new 
computer, your expense is still only around $700.00 net. You do not have 
used parts in your new computer such as a used case etc. The results are 2 
working computers. Somebody else benefits, also.


If you truly meant what you said, Gonna be expensive then look hard at my 
suggestions and see if you can have a 100% new computer for close to the 
same expense.


Chuck



Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] Temp files and viruses

2006-07-21 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] Temp files and viruses




I just had a client's wife call me wanting to know if I'd buy back a 3yr 
old machine. It seems that hubby can't stay away from prOn sites  will 
not pay the subscription fee for AV updates so the machine is


At least they do not feel they bought a POS and threaten to contact the 
Better Business Bureau if you do not buy it back with it being only 3 years 
old. In my 2nd of 8+ years I had my first complaint with the BBB. When I 
walked in to present my documentation I was informed that the complaining 
customer had a bad attitude and nothing could satisfy her. Since then I have 
had about 3 to 5 more threaten to complain to the BBB but none actually went 
through with a formal complaint. Perhaps the BBB reviewed the evidence much 
closer and talk them out of filing.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Autopatch XP July

2006-07-19 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:03 PM
Subject: [H] Autopatch XP July



Anybody install July XP Autopatch. I keep getting this error...

www.winterlight.org/error.jpg

anybody else? I have tried downloading it again from another mirror but 
same thing. Any ideas?




July?? I got the same error several times trying to install the June, 2006 
update. I hope somebody figures this out soon. I am still using the May, 
2006 update which leaves lots to download from Microsoft afterwards.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Bad Colors over the internet

2006-07-15 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Bad Colors over the internet



Are you viewing those colors on a CRT or LCD screen?
I agree that the Tennis Court White looks nothing like white on
my laptop's screen, but I expected that. Anyone with a CRT getting better 
results?




My Viewsonic LCD monitor showed that as perhaps a light gray, but certainly 
not reddish or a rose color.


Chuck 



Re: [H] LCD burn in ?

2006-07-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Bill Cohane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [H] LCD burn in ?





Sorry to have no advice for you. Just wanted to mention that I can see 
burn in on my 8 year old Viewsonic 21 P815 CRT monitor. Yes, it's from my 
desktop too. Not obvious, but you can see it when you have a white 
background.




What I am about to describe involves a security procedure, also, but 
security has nothing to do with this thread. When I am going to be away from 
my computer, I hit the Windows key followed by the L key (lower case l is 
fine). This is a quick log off. Then I hit the power switch on my LCD 
monitor. It is my understanding that computer monitors do not power down 
completely when you do this. They do like televisions and go into some kind 
of standby mode. The point is there is no image on the screen in this mode. 
Because it does not completely power down, I do not feel it is doing harm by 
switching it off and on several times per day. I do the same thing at night, 
just hit the power switch and let it standby all night with no image on the 
screen. I do power down my computer once every 24 hours (at night when I am 
sleeping.) During the day my computer continues to run during these times I 
am logged out of Windows. True, there may be times during the day my 
computer monitor displays my wallpaper for an hour or two, but this has not 
burned an image into it. In fact the background for this email has lots of 
white space and I see no images burned in. This monitor is about 5 years 
old.


Chuck 



Re: [H] pita activation

2006-06-25 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [H] pita activation



At 04:29 PM 6/25/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

When I say, clean install I meant I format Drive C first.


Don't you blow away any hidden partitions as well ?



Absolutely! This makes it completely forget it is a name brand computer and 
makes it reliant upon reinstalls being from the Windows XP Home OEM CD. This 
makes it no longer a proprietary computer. Any computer shop can easily do 
reinstalls on it. Even the name brand authorized service centers can do 
clean installs on clone computers or name brand computers that have been 
made to run like a clone. This expands the number of computer shops that can 
work on it to all of them.


Chuck 



[H] Best P.O.S.T. Diagnostic Card?

2006-06-22 Thread chuck
I was trying to build a Celeron Socket 775 computer using an Asus P5P800 
Motherboard that I had left over. It would not perform P.O.S.T. It powered 
up and all of the fans spun, but no beeps or video. As you know, the Socket 
775 fans are a dog to remove. I hope I do not have to attempt this.


What is the best P.O.S.T. PCI diagnostic card around that has video display?

I tried all the usual, different memory, different power supply and 
different video card.  Still, no video.


Any advice will be deeply appreciated,

Chuck 



[H] Intel P4 Compared to Pentium D

2006-06-14 Thread chuck



I am going from Intel 
CPU Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz FSB800MHz L2-2MB LGA775 CPU to Intel CPU Pentium D 930 
3.0GHz FSB800MHz 2MBx2 LGA775 Dual Core Retail.

Which is overall the fastest CPU if you take the .2 
GHz difference out of the factoring?

Any advice will be deeply appreciated,

Chuck





Re: [H] Intel P4 Compared to Pentium D

2006-06-14 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Intel P4 Compared to Pentium D


The Pentium D is nothing more than two P4's glued together. There is no 
IPC improvement. Given equal or near- equal speed, the P-D will feel more 
responsive and generally perform tasks quicker...especially those that are 
  multithreaded.


Thank you. I need any suggestions I can get as to whether to let this Intel 
CPU Pentium D 930 3.0GHz FSB800MHz 2MBx2 LGA775 Dual Core  be my replacement 
for the Intel CPU Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz FSB800MHz L2-2MB LGA775 or just sell 
the one I ordered and move on to something else.


My goal and objective is to use a P4 or Intel equivelant that is middle of 
the road in price and speed for a computer that is to be above average in 
performance. I build Celerons for economy and P4's for more performance.


Thanks,

Chuck




Re: AMD X2 price cuts - WAS: Re: [H] -N- AMD Prices Slashed

2006-06-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: AMD X2 price cuts - WAS: Re: [H] -N- AMD Prices Slashed


right back in the premium price for premium performance game.  If you 
don't want to pay premium prices, just live with lower performance - I've 
been doing that ever since I foolishly paid $1200 for a 486DX2-66 
motherboard and CPU the week it came out.




I play it middle of the road as I want performance but not bad enough to 
buy the latest and fastest technology for myself and my customers. I waited 
for the right timing on many changes. Some were the change to SATA, the 
change to DDR2 RAM and the change to PCI-e Video cards. Now my 
representative at ASI is telling me I need to move on up to Dual Core 
processors. In the Intel line and sticking with Asus motherboards I am 
forced to go to some or all of what I do not want, onboard video and SATA 
optical drives. At this point there is not a huge selection in SATA DVD 
writers etc. My timing is not always perfect. I wonder if I was too slow 
years ago in moving from AT to the ATX format in cases and motherboards. I 
feel I moved up to 7200 RPM hard drives early in the game. I did not catch 
on when Western Digital started the 7200's with the 13.6 GB, but I jumped on 
the wagon whey they started offering 20 GB hard drives in the 7200 RPM 
models.


A good sales representative will assist in letting you know when the stock 
levels are adequate and stable, when the selection is adequate and when the 
price is right to move up to a better technology. Also you will be made 
aware when the price is right, not too high or so low that you have waited 
too long and are selling obsolete units, but when the price is middle of 
the road and you get the most bang for your bucks, overall. I rarely have a 
customer complain about having been sold obsolete technology. If one did I 
would inform them that if they had wanted to pay premium dollar for the 
latest and the greatest at that time, they would have told me to take it up 
a few notches before they agreed to their purchase. I use Windows XP 
Professional Edition as an example. If they need it, they know they need it. 
Note that over 90% of my customers are buying for home use and most 
businesses who purchase from me do not even have their computers networked, 
other than their high speed Internet network.


Currently in CPU technology, today I am not going to dual core CPU's or SATA 
optical drives in that area. All of that may change tomorrow as different 
items become available etc.


I foolishly paid $1200 for a 486DX2-66 motherboard and CPU the week it came 
out. Now that you have learned, I would imagine some of your reasons for 
moving up to the newer technology have to do with the same reasons I just 
outlined as my reasons, also, for a slow, but progressive move that does not 
bust your budget.


One more example from my past: I did not jump up to the PIII 933 for $600.00 
when I was buying PIII 600's for around $300.00.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Windows Validation tool

2006-06-12 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Windows Validation tool



Me too.  I hate phoning home.



If you hate phoning home, do not try to format the hard drive of a name 
brand computer and do a clean install of Windows XP using an OEM CD. You 
will be denied activation and have to personally call Microsoft. You will 
have to enter that 54 digit code and answer some questions. You will be 
asked if this is the first time Windows is being installed on the computer, 
the Product Key and on how many other computers this issue of Windows has 
been installed on. You will be asked the make and model number of the 
computer and where it was purchased. Microsoft sometimes hangs up on you 
during all of this and you have to start over. You know what starting over 
means regarding the 54 digit number. You have to give that to them each time 
you call. I guess their communications from Taiwan are not the best in the 
world, as that is where you are calling.


Perhaps you would not have to personally phone home if you simply ran the 
restore disk and ended up without the increase in performance etc. you get 
via a clean install. I do not have to phone home when I do a clean install 
on a clone computer. Remember what you said, I hate phoning home when you 
purchase your next computer. With a clone that has not been loaded with 
bloatware etc. you most likely will not have to phone home using voice 
communications to answer to a person in Taiwan that Microsoft has given such 
authority to.


Chuck 



Re: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.

2006-06-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.


One of the other problems vista will face is market confusion. There will 
be EIGHTEEN different versions of Vista




This reminds me of the horrible rip-off of customers who make the mistake of 
buying XP Home OEM when they really need XP Pro OEM. If Microsoft uses an 
upgrade path with Vista that is similar to XP look for huge rip-offs.


Here is the scenario I have seen customers face and some took the bait:

Customer orders a new computer with XP Home which is $90.00 on his invoice 
from me (I line item quote new computers)


Customer changes his mind a week later and wants XP Pro which sells for 
$180.00 in the local stores, the Upgrade version.


Customer asks me for advice. My Windows XP Pro OEM kits are $150.00. Can't 
do that as the computer is not new anymore, so it legally does not qualify 
for my OEM kit, but requires the Upgrade version.


Customer now pays $180.00 to upgrade from XP Home OEM to XP Pro Upgrade 
version.


Total outlay for Windows hits $270.00 in a week! Rip-off or what?

If the upgrade path for Vista is anything like the upgrade path for XP, 
either make the right choice the first time, sell the computer and buy 
another new one, or get screwed royally in the pricing to upgrade.


Of course I called Microsoft and raised hell and was told, Your only option 
to install XP Pro on that existing computer is the Upgrade version.


Case closed and Microsoft wins again, $270.00 for one computer because the 
customer made the wrong choice in the beginning.


Chuck 



Re: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.

2006-06-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.




And how many laptops have 128MB of video RAM or more?  Not many.  So Vista 
isn't for laptops, clearly.  Of course, they're looking to the future, 
when we all buy new ones. :)




In my opinion, operating system upgrades are a huge gamble, pure and simple. 
The customer bets at least $90.00 (the street price in the stores for Win 95 
Upgrade, Win 98 Upgrade, Win Me Upgrade and Win XP Home Upgrade) against the 
odds of getting $90.00 in value. If it does not work out, Microsoft keeps 
the $90.00 if the package has been opened. True, Microsoft will allow it to 
be migrated to another computer if it was never authenticated.


Only the high end computers that were purchased close to the tail end of the 
change by Microsoft from one OS to a new OS, run well with OS upgrades. For 
example, high end computers purchased in 2005 or 2006 are most likely to 
take an upgrade to Vista decently. Around Albany, GA over 90% of computers 
are very low end. The low end ones barely handle the OS that came on them. 
The problem is the customer does not know this and often buys and upgrade to 
their OS. Microsoft gets paid twice for the OS on the same computer when it 
is upgraded.


Again, my opinion. I would love to see all those low end computers denied an 
upgrade by their owners. They can be passed on to the kids or sold, thus 
providing the poor who can not afford a new computer a used computer. Even 
if this advice is followed, if the customer does not learn how to spec. a 
computer and buy well above the low end one, they will get poor performance 
from whatever OS that comes on it.


So what can be worse than a sluggish low end desktop that has received and 
OS upgrade? A low end laptop that has received and OS upgrade, as they are 
more sluggish than desktops with the same specs. anyway.


Chuck 



Re: [H] %program files% variable all hosed

2006-06-04 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: CW [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: [H] %program files% variable all hosed


Had to do a repair install of WindowsXP 64 on a machine in the house. 
Now, the %program files% variable is wonky.. itbasically doesn't find 
it.  (ie, go to a prompt, cd %program files% gets nothing) and programs, 
as a result, also are unable to


You support my argument for formatting and reinstalling from the start. 
Rarely has a repair install went the way I wanted it to go. Most times it 
just fails to complete. Could it be that repair installs bog down in the 
tons of updates that have been applied to be completely up to date?


I wanted to migrate from a 250 GB hard drive to a 400 GB hard drive. I 
partitioned and cloned all of my data to my new hard drive. Windows XP would 
not boot. I tried a repair install and it would not go all the way through. 
So I reverted back to my 250 GB hard drive and I will live with it until I 
either change computers or for other reasons do a format and clean install.


I clone the results of clean installs on customer's computers. I 
successfully restore these clones when their Windows crashes. In most 
situations Windows XP boots ok. My guess is cloning a load that has lots of 
junk on it does not work. My C Drive has over 17 GB of data on it, mostly 
applications etc. I have my data files on other partitions. I have went over 
3 years without formatting and reinstalling. It is my guess this is a main 
reason I am not being allowed to clone to a larger hard drive and boot up or 
to complete a repair install.


Chuck





Re: [H] Geeksquad/Bestbuy rip off?

2006-06-02 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Geeksquad/Bestbuy rip off?



No surprises there!

Funny they don't just cut to the chase and flat-out offer to re-install 
the OS from a no-bloatware image for $180. =)




The world has accepted the explanation, The computer is down when over 90% 
of these instances could be avoided if computers were built of quality and 
without bloatware. All the Windows XP OEM Preinstallation Kit does is turn 
your computer into a billboard. So does the bloatware it makes easy to 
install. As long as the general public accepts this, the computer 
manufacturers will keep dishing it out. I strongly feel the public allows 
itself to be abused more with the whole process involving computers than 
with any other product. Over 8 years of experience tells me that you have 
less hardware problems (and no overheating problems) and a more stable 
Windows with quality hardware and no bloatware.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Geeksquad/Bestbuy rip off?

2006-06-02 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Geeksquad/Bestbuy rip off?



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Technically the Windows XP OEM Preinstallaton Kit does not in itself turn 
computers into billboards or load them with bloatware. It is the computer 
manufacturers following the instructions included with the kit that does the 
evil deed. You can read all about it in the instructions. Microsoft highly 
encourages OEM's to install their logos, their ISP software and any other 
software they choose to install, using the kit. It is like handing a 
criminal an unloaded gun and instructing him how to use the bullets he 
furnishes to kill people. Microsoft knows the OEM's are chomping at the bits 
for assistance in gooking up OEM installations of Windows as it seems well 
over 90% do just that.


For those who still doubt, answer this question. Why do many (if not the 
majority) of power users who buy name brand computers format them and do 
clean installs, immediately after they receive the computers? I bet most any 
performance benchmark would show lots higher performance after this has been 
done than before.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Registry Mechanic

2006-04-29 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Registry Mechanic




And why not?  My wife is going on 8 yrs on her 98 machine without a format 
 reinstall. Heck not even a dirty install either. ;-)




Why not? She has a programmer on board. Y'all fellows can earn $50.00 per 
hour and up and not ever touch a screwdriver. No wonder programmers do house 
calls. They do not have to physically work inside of the box. Hardly anyone 
has desk space to work on a computer, so you end up using their floor for 
your bench. Often you have to unhook the computer to pull it out enough to 
get inside of it. Then you have to slide it back to hook it back up etc.


My guess is anyone who knows their way around a Windows Registry and fix 
practically any Windows problem and avoid reinstalling. If I knew all of 
that I would quit the lowly, low paying hardware work and just do keyboard 
and mouse work.


Chuck 



Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(



No I mean he will still get the same model.



Warranty issues are why I do not sell the high end components, but the 
middle of the road stuff. If a computer manufacturer/shop buys and sells a 
$300.00 video card and it is either DOA or goes out in warranty, the 
computer shop has to replace it. You can not ask your customer to wait 3 
weeks, so you have to buy (if you do not stock) a new ones to service your 
warranty. When you get the return item, often it is so used you can see the 
turned colors. What would be bright brass color of new is dingy.


If you have your customer buy their high end parts at Office Depot, they can 
be took back with a few days (if bad) and you get a new one. I know of no 
computer supplier that promptly returns new items for new items.


I would gladly let my supplier hold five hundred dollars of my money in an 
escrow account, if they would promise to ship out new replacements for any 
RAM item, the same day I call it in. How do y'all handle warranty 
replacements without them being a heavy business expense?


Chuck 



Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(




To each their own as I've never had a problem with an Abit mombo  my wife 
is still using a KT7a without any problems but I listened to the


My comments about warranty issues were in general, not aimed at any 
particular manufacturer. Abit may give lots better warranty service than 
Asus. Asus is very slow to ship the replacement board.


While on the subject, finally, I had a Seagate hard drive to die. I got an 
RMA and shipped it to Texas via UPS Ground. Seagate promptly shipped my 
replacement. It was a recertified drive (the same as Western Digital) but at 
least Seagate shipped promptly and Seagate did not ship the same way I 
shipped to them. They shipped it 2 day air.


Any other comments on Seagate RMA turnarounds compared to Western Digital? I 
am convinced that less Seagates die, also. Seagate earned my business by 
being the first to offer me a 5 year warranty.


Chuck 



Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(


I do advance replacements whenever I can. If I can't, I always leave a 
barely visible marker so I can see if I got the same exact item back.




Or, at least keep a copy of the serial number of the item you send to them. 
It makes you feel better to get somebody else's dead and repaired component 
than to get your dead and repaired component back. The sad part is your 
DOA's are technically new and what you get back could be a year or more old 
and repaired.


Chuck




Re: [H] Well, it sort of is hardware...

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Steve Tomporowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: [H] Well, it sort of is hardware...


The water pressure at my house isn't the greatest and the 'new' shower head
that the contractor put in, frankly, sucks.  We've had a 'soaking' shower

You have a good benchmarking question. What is your water pressure? We have 
consistently ran very close to 60 pounds (+ or - a few) for the 19 years we 
have been in our home in Albany, GA. We are approximately 1.25 miles from 
the closest water tank in the city water network. Albany, GA claims to have 
the most abundant underground supplied water network in the country.


Chuck 



Re: [H] XP Pro Upgrade

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:27 PM
Subject: [H] XP Pro Upgrade


Here's a problem.  I have a customer with an XP Pro COA, but no CD.  I 
don't have a CD in the shop for the upgrade, and the COA won't work with a 
full version of XP Pro.  Does anyone know if I can get a CD from MS?




Microsoft would either give problems or a big bill. Get it from a friend. 
Waiting for one of us to snail mail you a copy would be longer than you may 
wish to wait.


Chuck 



Re: [H] XP Pro Upgrade

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [H] XP Pro Upgrade


You should be able to purchase a Re-install disk from the original 
manufacturer, but if you have any OEM CD handy, you might
be able to utilize that and substitute the COA registration upon 
installation.


YMMV


In the past several months I have had to call Microsoft and give them the 42 
digit installation code and the Product Key and then they give me the 42 
digit code to authenticate Windows on 90% of all name brand computers, even 
when there were no hardware changes. Microsoft hates to see clean installs, 
I guess. This is no problem, just humiliating and time consuming. Actually 
it is a hoop they make people who prefer clean installs to jump through. 
Just make sure you install with the same version of Windows, (Upgrade, Full 
or OEM.) If you do not, the Product Key on the COA will not work.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Well, it sort of is hardware...

2006-04-20 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Well, it sort of is hardware...


of accounts, each at a different flow rate / pressure. I picked the 
cheapest one, and I still have 160 PSI coming in, which is a tremendous 
pressure for residential.




Wow! I have 60, so 160 may bust my copper pipes! Or it may break the valves 
in my washing machine, dishwasher etc. (Yes, down here in the rurals we do 
have dishwashers that do not stand on two feet.)


Chuck 



Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(

2006-04-19 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [H] dead A8N-Sli Deluxe... :(



Not sure how lucky he is, he's getting the same board back again.



They do not always send the same component back. Sometimes you get a pull 
instead. Either way, I hate to have to return anything.


Chuck 



Re: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730 Auto Play Issues

2006-04-17 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Quilhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730  Auto Play Issues


I had something similar to this happen to me, I ended up rolling back a 
bois

update and the on board sound worked great



After all attempts to install a SB PCI 128 failed, I bought a SB Audigy SE 
Model SB0570 and it worked. My 8+ years of experience tells me that name 
brand motherboards are not always impossible, but seldom easy. This is not 
like the first time I have dealt with the name brand dog and pony show. 
Y'all may slam me for damning them, perhaps even take up for them, but 8+ 
years causes me to react according to my experiences. I know I would not 
have had to go out and buy a different sound card if it had been one of my 
custom builds. That SB PCI 128 would have took to the motherboard like a 
duck taking to water. To repeat, I had tried the PCI 128 in each of the 3 
PCI slots, as the only card in a PCI slot, so it being in the wrong slot 
could not have been an issue. With a name brand all the slots are the wrong 
slot because they are on the wrong motherboard. But as many of y'all say, 
That is just me when disagreeing with my opinion of name brand computers. 
If I follow my conscience and stick with real computer, real parts work. My 
stance saves me money. Although you may not speak up here, I strongly feel 
many of y'all have had the same problems getting things to work with the 
motherboards in name brand computers.


Chuck 



Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free

2006-04-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Stan Zaske [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free


Glad to hear you're content but Microsoft will destroy open source/free 
any way it possibly can! The Walmart of the software industry without the 
low prices! Long live Linux!




Sometimes my predictions and/or wishes come true. For years some felt I was 
doing wrong by copying and using Microsoft Windows CD's of various Windows 
versions to do clean installs. True, I was breaking their rules. I was not 
pirating Windows, as I was using the Product Key shown on the COA affixed to 
the computer.


Now, according to the latest issue of Maximum PC, Microsoft will include all 
versions of Vista on one generic DVD. Evidently Microsoft feels they have 
enough control with the combination of Product Activation and Product 
Validation etc. to stop most of the piracy. No more of this having to buy a 
Windows CD just for the media, as I had to do in order to get myself a copy 
of Windows XP Media Center Edition to do clean installs with. I sold that 
kit along with its legal COA etc. to a customer along with a new computer 
for the same price that I would have charged for Windows XP Home, ninety 
dollars.


My point here is I for a long time have predicted that Microsoft will rent 
Windows by the month or by the year. Could they start this with Vista? Would 
it surprise anyone if they did? They have already built into the all 
versions DVD idea, the ability to upgrade your version of Vista. Can you see 
where this is going? It is a sneaky way to get your credit card number.


With all versions on one DVD now I am wondering how I, the OEM, will pay for 
the version of Vista I choose to install on new computers I build. Perhaps 
each kit will have an unlock code installed by the distributor? Or who 
knows? Somehow I get the feeling that Microsoft will want my credit card 
number. It would not surprise me if Microsoft eliminates any OEM who does 
not sell at least 100 computers per month. I am looking around for a job, 
the same as any employee who feels a firing coming on would do. I do not 
trust Daddy Bill Gates or his clan!


The scary part is at any moment, Microsoft could press a few control buttons 
and destroy Microsoft Windows on any computer in the world that is online, 
or all of them, unless you have a third party firewall that keeps Microsoft 
out.


Chuck 



Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free

2006-04-13 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free




Yeah.  Because Bill is planning on becoming the Evil Emperor of the 
Universe, and the first part of his plan is to destroy all copies of 
Windows. :)




That would be the extreme and highly unlikely, but it is good mind exercise 
to keep aware of the possibilities. At least, let's acknowledge that 
Microsoft will have more control with Windows Vista. Most likely Microsoft 
will not rent Vista but I bet the EULA will not be open ended. Somewhere in 
the fine print I anticipate some clause that allows Microsoft to start 
receiving supplemental funds at any point in the future they feel the need 
to. Hopefully they never will and Vista will be as easy as XP is to 
authenticate and validate etc. and will run without additional costs as long 
as you own the computer it is authenticated on.


I hate having to call Microsoft to authenticate practically every clean 
install I do on a name brand computer. According to Jellybean, some installs 
have the correct product key and some do not, but on most I have to call 
Microsoft. I will gladly live with this calling Microsoft (most often there 
are no hardware changes, just a clean install) in exchange for having a 
measure of protection from butcher builders pricing me out of the local 
market using Windows piracy as a price reducing tool. Occasionally I am put 
on Ignore (Hold) but most times I get prompt service when I call Microsoft 
for assistance in authentication. Once I have called Microsoft, I know I 
have had the same product key shown on the COA authenticated as that is the 
one I use when I do the clean install. There is great satisfaction in making 
this correction.


I am in no way trying to predict any massive catastrophe, but it does not 
hurt to make oneself aware of the control that Microsoft builds in to keep 
things going their way. It would make no sense to cause massive destruction 
but that does not stop people from doing it. It does not have to be 
Microsoft. We all know that from time to time somebody will toss a monkey 
wrench into some very important and valuable machinery.


Chuck



Re: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730 Auto Play Issues

2006-04-12 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Quilhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730  Auto Play Issues


I had something similar to this happen to me, I ended up rolling back a 
bois

update and the on board sound worked great



How was it now working? Did the drivers not install properly, thus not 
letting sound devices such as Windows Media Player play audio OR did the 
audio play but no line audio signal sent to the amplified speakers? In my 
situation everything appears to be working but there is no audio being sent 
to the speakers or to headphones if I plug those in. Being a Compaq (one 
owner etc.) I have no reason to think the BIOS has been flashed, but perhaps 
I could flash the BIOS if you feel this may help. Belarc Advisor did tell me 
it is an AsusTeK A7N8X-LA motherboard.


With help from the Microsoft site I found that my auto play problem was a 
bad setting in the Registry. I wonder why out of hundreds of clean installs 
of XP just this one set the auto play to 0 instead of 1 (0 for no auto play 
and 1 for auto play). Now auto play works along with the other sound 
features, and yes, the proper sound device is showing as default and nothing 
is muted.


Thanks,

Chuck




Re: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730 Auto Play Issues

2006-04-12 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730  Auto Play Issues



is it possible the onboard audio is proprietary to compaq speakers ?
compaq'a and hp's usually make me regret working on them :'(


As you can see, I have not given up, yet. If there was some onboard 
proprietary audio issue, they why would the SoundBlaster PCI 128 card not 
install in any of the 3 PCI slots, and I did disable the onboard audio in 
the BIOS before trying to install the sound card.


This computer is a prime example of why I do not use any CPU but Intel. I 
can not afford to stock different motherboards etc. for two brands of CPU's. 
Technology moves far too fast and they would get outdated even worse than my 
minimum Intel stock now gets outdated. If it had been a Compaq using an 
Intel CPU I would have changed the motherboard and not had all of these 
issues. I realize that some of you may have had smooth sailing with name 
brand computers, but they have been nothing but horror for me in my 8 years. 
And to think the only hardware components that make a name brand computer a 
name brand are its inferior motherboard and case. Once I replace these, it 
is downhill from there.



Thanks,

Chuck 



Re: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730 Auto Play Issues

2006-04-12 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Hardware List' 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: [H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730  Auto Play Issues



Is digital audio output enabled?  If it is, you'll get no analog output
really common on HPs/Compaq/Gateway that shipped originally with Boston
Accoustic digital speakers.


Thanks, but it is set for analog.

Chuck 



[H] SoundBlaster PCI 128 CT4730 Auto Play Issues

2006-04-11 Thread chuck


I have formatted Drive C and done a clean install of Windows XP on a Compaq 
Presario S4100CL Athlon 2600+ computer. I have done all of the Windows 
updates etc.


The onboard Realtek AC '97 Audio allows Windows Media Player 10 to play 
audio in different formats, but the final output (the green one) sends on 
audio to speakers or headphones that I know work. I have check the standard 
settings for volume levels and nothing is muted.


I disabled the onboard audio in the BIOS and re-enabled it, still to no 
avail. I disabled it again and tried to install a SoundBlaster PCI 128 
CT4730 sound card, but the install of the software hangs up windows, even in 
Safe Mode. I tried each of the available 3 PCI slots with only the sound 
card, leaving the other two PCI slots open, to no avail.


I am sound card poor here in my shop since most computers have been using 
onboard audio for years. Only recently did I finally sell of my last 
SoundBlaster Live! and Soundblaster PCI 128 cards and have just bought these 
two new PCI 128 cards to install in computers with inoperative onboard 
audio. I have no other models to try.


I did install one of these SB PCI 128's into my shop computer and it works 
fine. This mess is just another piece of convince evidence I have gathered 
in over 8 years to prove to me that custom built computers are far more 
easier to work with than name brand computers.


Not only does the onboard audio fail to send audio to speakers or headphones 
and the sound card will not install, Auto Play will not work either. I tried 
two new CD/DVD devices, to no avail. I checked the Auto Play settings and 
they are all ok.


This is a rebuild into a new case of a Compaq computer. If I can not resolve 
the audio issue, I will end up having to trash this motherboard and CPU. 
Surely I am missing some simple something. Perhaps it is as simple as trying 
different brand sound cards until I find one that is acceptable to the 
Compaq motherboard.


Have any of you went through a stack of different brand sound cards trying 
to get one to work in a computer? I have in the past. I do not have a stack 
of them to go through this time.


Is Auto Play tied into this problem somehow? Any ideas in solving the audio 
and Auto Play problems will be deeply appreciated.


Thanks in advance,

Chuck 



Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-06 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible



That takes way too much time.  Boot from CD and clean it from there.



Oh, I forgot that few cases are similar to the misnamed Enlight case. 
Pitstop should have been their name, not Enlight. Put a fully assembled 
(right from being in use by the customer) Enlight case computer on my bench 
and I have the completely disconnected 3.5 bay frame in my hands within 25 
seconds. It takes another 5 seconds to hook it to my shop computer which is 
kept on a shelf at eye level with its side open, ready to work. Then booting 
to a Windows XP operating system is far quicker than booting to a CD.


I love working out of my home as I can have the equipment that I need. How 
many bench techs who work for a business have flat panel shop monitors (the 
space savings are worth the cost)? How many have a computer sitting at eye 
level with side open with 4 IDE and 2 SATA channels available to do testing, 
virus scanning and hardware testing? How many have an office computer to do 
their paperwork, Internet access and other computer related tasks on? Both 
my shop computer and my office computer are for me, only. My wife has her 
own computer in another room. How many have a second workstation wired to 
share one monitor, keyboard and mouse with 2 computers?


By having dedicated equipment I was able to run Spinrite for 10 hours on a 
drive and then run Scandisk for another 4 hours on the same drive and patch 
it up just enough to recover the customer's important data. I did this 
without interfering with my normal operations in my shop. I recover their 
data for free if they buy a new computer from me or for a reasonable fee if 
they are simply getting a new hard drive. If they choose to do no business 
with me, I charge them $50.00 for a DVD with their data on it. In my area 
many choose to do no business with me. They just want to drop back by and 
pick up their hard drive that I put 10+ hours of repair and recovery time in 
and copied its data to a DVD before it totally crashed. Hard drives seem to 
know when their owner is a cheap bastard and crash after I get the data onto 
a DVD but before the customer picks it up.


Albany, Georgia is an area where people do not haggle over the price of a 
new forty grand vehicle but want to haggle for 3 days over a thousand dollar 
computer and then either go buy a five hundred dollar Wal*Mart special or a 
three grand dell, no haggle, of course!


Chuck



Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-06 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?


volume licensing but volume licensing is suppose to be used as upgrades to 
existing licenses only.  I had previously submitted that link but I don't 
believe it's valid any longer  I've not gotten the


If anyone finds a legal deal on Windows Home OEM that is for less than the 
$254.00 I pay for a 3 pack, please let me know. I have been paying $90.00 
for Windows since I bought my first upgrade CD to upgrade from Windows 3.1 
to Windows 95 back in that era.


I know I will never come close to the twenty or less dollars dell pays for 
Windows. I do take pride in handing the customer the sealed Windows kit 
after I remove the COA and affix it to their computer. I use my media for 
installation.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-06 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible




Still I would much rather boot a BartPe or XpPe disk CD that remove the HD 
 put it into another machine.  I tried booting the new Knoppix 5 DVD on a 
2700+ machine  I thought that would never boot up but it did eventually.




I know my shop computer is a P4 2.53 GHz with a gig of RAM (If I had felt 
memory starved I would have doubled that as I did in my office computer) and 
it has no major issues. I trust it lots more than I trust a customer's 
computer. I tried one of those homemade boot Windows XP operating systems. 
That thing took a long time to boot up. It had to copy all of that stuff 
from the CD into RAM which I guess is the reason it was slow to boot. In a 
normal boot, my shop computer simply copies the needed data from the hard 
drive into the 1024 MB of RAM.


I simply tell people what is more comfortable for me. I realize they are 
going to continue to do what they feel best with. My purpose is not to get 
them to change as what y'all do has no affect on the success of my business. 
I believe that the more opinions and the more information a person has to 
work with, the more informed decisions they can make. My guess is very few 
computer shops work with workhorse shop computers. The computer shop I got 
trained in was so cheap they refused to replace the one old 13 CRT monitor 
that was defective, cutting off while in use etc. It was difficult to get a 
dedicated 3 to 4 feet of bench space! A second workstation would have been 
totally out of the question. Now I have 8 feet on one bench and 6 feet on 
another plus my office space.


Chuck



Chuck 



Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible



Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those I can
clean any infection guys at now?



Format Drive C and do a clean install is looking lots better to many of you 
now. I was never a networker nor did I ever deal with Windows NT. I did hear 
that businesses ran Windows NT clean and simple on a small partition, 
keeping their important data on another partition, better yet, that other 
partition being on both the workstation computer and the server, making 2 
data storage partitions. They had only a few applications to reinstall. When 
Windows went bad, they simply formatted Drive C, reinstalled Windows and the 
few applications and were back in business. My point is the format and clean 
install is more effective, even if it takes 5 seconds longer than trying to 
clean up a C Drive. Most realize that formatting and reinstalling is best 
once 5 hours of hard works is to no avail.


Chuck




Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible




We're still here. Isn't it funny how MSFT does NOT address booting another 
OS even XP  cleaning these affected HDs?  I've already successfully 
cleaned bugs with my XpPe disk that I could NOT have


If I were going to try to clean up a hard drive, my preference would be to 
remove it and attach it to another computer and run it passively.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Motherboard upgrade gotcha

2006-02-24 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Robert Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: [H] Motherboard upgrade gotcha


transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or 
replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been 
created and the license of new operating system software is required.




I predict that Vista will end repairable computers. Microsoft may very well 
choose to simply end it for us small OEM's. After all, we produce a product 
that outlasts a name brand anyway.


OR

Microsoft may simply choose to rent Windows. Either way, Microsoft wins and 
the customer loses and I have to go get a real job.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Motherboard upgrade gotcha

2006-02-24 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Motherboard upgrade gotcha



Good thing all of my motherboard replacements are for defects.
Defects in speed, defects in feature list, defects in compatibility...:)
FO MSFT.



You did not run that through spell check or you would have been corrected to 
spell it, Dell.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Hardrive failure..

2006-02-23 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Hardrive failure..




I replaced ten 40 and 80 GB Maxtors in one week.  They are that bad, 
unfortunately.  Of the drives I replace, at least 90% are Maxtors.  Dell 
is/was a big Maxtor user and it shows here.




Maxtor did not buy Quantum for the materials. The bought Quantum for the 
massive customer base, namely many name brand computer manufacturers. Now 
the bottom of the barrel for hard drives has risen one inch, from Quantum to 
Maxtor. Yet the masses still love those name brand computers filled with 
Maxtors (unless they find a cheaper hard drive). The same principle applies 
to the other components. They buy the cheapest ones offered with one 
stipulation, of course. 90% or better of any component installed in a name 
brand computer is expected to live through the 1 year warranty. If you 
believe this and somebody asks you if you are saying name brand 
manufacturers have no principles you can disagree. They have one strong 
principle. Most computers they build and sell are expected to clear warranty 
before they fall apart.


Chuck 



Re: [H] Hardrive failure..

2006-02-23 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Hardrive failure..


You do realize that Seagate absolutely dwarfs Maxtor, WD, Samsung, 
Fujitsu, and all other HD players, right?




I have not had to RMA a Seagate, yet. No DOA's with Seagate like I had 
occasionally with Western Digital. I have been with Seagate for only a year, 
and so far, no RMA's. Most of my hard drive failures were either DOA or 
within 6 months, so things are looking great for Seagate.


Will some of you others who build and repair post your results?

Here are mine:

Enlight cases have a low power supply failure rate.

Asus motherboards have a very low failure rate.

Intel CPU's ZERO failure rate, even for many I pulled from lightning 
destroyed motherboards and used again.


Crucial Memory - Only one stick RMA in over 5 years. ASI house brand I used 
before that was terrible!


ATI Video Cards - Very low failure rate.

U.S. Robotics 2976 OEM hardware modem - Very low failure rate.

Mitsumi floppy drive - Very low failure rate.

Sony CD/DVD ROMS and Writers - Zero Failure Rate

Life is very good when the primary goal and objective is durability with the 
second goal and objective being performance. Price is third. My findings is 
the cost per year of ownership and use is always lower, overall, when you 
purchase low maintenance, low failure, long lasting products, no matter what 
the product. That statement, The $500.00 disposable computer costs less in 
the long run just does not fly with me! After 8 years I have yet for one of 
the computers I built to come in here dead in a way it was not feasible or 
it was cost prohibitive to repair it. So I have no idea how long they will 
last with none having been retired or junked that I know of.


Chuck 



Fw: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup

2006-02-17 Thread chuck




- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "The Hardware List" 
hardware@hardwaregroup.comSent: 
Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:40 PMSubject: Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on 
startup One can always install the HP drivers without 
installing the apps but it  has to be done manually as there is no 
install for this. I did it with my  HP720 years ago  again with the 
G55 that I have now so there is no bloat.Do you remember awhile 
back I was asking on one list for the media for Windows XP Media Center 
Edition? Some of yall frowned because I was technically violating the 
Microsoft rules.I do clean installs on name brand computers, not the 
loaded install the name brand manufacturer does. Since nobody offered me the 
media (I did not want any Product Key as that would be illegal) I purchased 
a Windows XP Media Center Edition kit from my supplier, ASI.A dead 
HP Media Center Edition m480n computer came in last night. I rebuilt that 
rascal. I used a new Enlight case with a 450 watt power supply (replacing 
the HP 200 watt power supply), a new Asus P4P800 SE motherboard, the 
customer's P4 3.2 GHz CPU, the customer's RAM plus one stick to upgrade to 
1024 MB, the customer's video card, the customer's modem, a new Seagate 250 
GB hard drive, the customer's CD/DVD ROM and Writing devices and the 
customer's Asus TV tuner card with Conexant chips on it.Look at the 
massive hardware changes I did on that HP. Note that all customer furnished 
parts were original HP in that m480n except the DVD ROM and the DVD Writer. 
The customer had already changed these out after realizing that Hewlett 
Packard installs cheap components that do not meet the needs of most power 
users.My point here is that when I went to authenticate the clean 
install of Windows XP Media Center Edition it went right through! I did not 
even have to call Microsoft! I have to call Microsoft to authenticate clean 
installs on most name brand computers, even when there is absolutely no 
hardware changes. Rarely do I have to call Microsoft when I authenticate the 
installation of Windows on a rebuild job, no matter how many components I 
replace. At a minimum, I replace the case and the motherboard, as these are 
the ONLY hardware components that tag any computer as a proprietary name 
brand computer. I always use the Product Key that appears on the COA affixed 
to the name brand computer.My question here is does anyone have the 
drivers for the Asus TV card that is installed in these HP Media Center 
computers? This is the only hardware that I can not find drivers for. 
The HP site offers only the restore software. Driverguide.com did no better 
for me. Belarc Advisor, Driver Detective and others simply do not list 
devices that have no drivers, yet they are listed in Device Manager. I can 
not even identify the TV card properly. I attached the Belarc Advisor 
results. I do not know if this list allows attachments such as this. If the 
attachment is allowed it will come in another message (if approved by the 
moderators).Is there any software that will identify all hardware, even 
the hardware that is not properly installed due to lack of 
drivers?Any advice on this will be appreciated.Chuck 



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