Re: TLAs - was summit else entirely ...

2005-07-21 Thread Rob Scott
My brother-in-law's name is Ben Barker and he has just spent 3 years in
Japan teaching English to the locals.

Unfortunately, Ben Barker sounds very much like the Japanese for
Stupid Poo..


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Ted MacNEIL wrote:

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The whims of a bunch of buffalo notwithstanding, the operating system
is 
pronounced zee-oh-ess.
...

Not in Canada!
IBM Canada is calling it 'zed-oh-ess'.
  


Yup. And, when I visit Mexico, they call me SANE-YOUR HAH-FAY.

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System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread mary george
Hi,
While trying to install IMS,i am facing a system completion
code of FCD.I have never heard of system completion code 
which do not start with prefix U or S.
I could get any info on this code thru net too,have anyone of u
come across this before?
Cheers,
Mary George


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IEBGENER and SDB

2005-07-21 Thread Walter Marguccio
--- Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In any case, DSS writes blocks up to 64K (even
 though the DCB info says 32760). 

Right, first thing learned. This info is contained in
the DFSMSdss Diagnosis Guide which is unfortunately
not available to all user. 

 You can't copy a DSS backup (or an FDR backup) with
 IEBGENER, the output will not be usable).

Second thing learned, I didn't know this. You guys and
IBM confirmed this, too. I will have to use COPYDUMP
and be glad that in the past we had no need to use the
IEBGENER copies of the dumps. They would have been
useless :-( 

Thanks very much to all who answered to my post.

Walter Marguccio

P.S. Radoslaw, what is EHPO ? 

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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread mary george
sorry a small correction it was not when i tried to install IMS ,it was when I 
tried to start IMS

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Cheers,
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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread Jim McAlpine
From the MVS System Codes manual -

2.610 Fnn
 
--
Fnn
 
Explanation:  The system detected an error while processing a
Supervisor Call (SVC) instruction. The last 2 digits of this
completion code, nn,
are the operand of the SVC instruction in hexadecimal. For example,
completion code X'F0D' means that the error occurred while the system
was
processing SVC X'0D', that is, SVC 13.

basically you are missing svc x'CD' (decimal 205).

Jim McAlpine  

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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread ibm-main
Manuals are a marvellous thing.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2H751/2.611?SHELF=IEA2BK51DT=20050119103707CASE=

Shane ...

From: mary george

 sorry a small correction it was not when i tried to install IMS ,it was
when I tried to start IMS

 mary george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi,
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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Must be a System Completion code.
SFxx means that SVC xx is not installed in the system, in this case SVC 205.
Check your installation procedures how to install the IMS SVCs.

Kees.


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Re: IEBGENER and SDB

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

Thomas Conley wrote:


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Walter Marguccio wrote:


Dear list,
I have two jobs which run weekly. The first dumps
physically a volume to tape. JCL follow:

//ST01   EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE DD  DSN=my_dsn(+1),
// DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=our_vts,
// DCB=(JGE.MOD,BLKSIZE=19000)
//SYSINDD  *
 DUMP ADMIN IDY(my_vol) OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) COM

The second job copies the output file from the first
job to another tape. JCL follow:

//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD DSN=my_dsn(0),DISP=SHR
//SYSUT2   DD DSN=my_dsn_totape(+1),
//DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=our_vts,
//LABEL=(1,SL),VOL=(,RETAIN),
//  DCB=(JGE.MOD,RECFM=U,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=19000)
//SYSINDD DUMMY

I wanted to use SDB in order to decrease EXCPs,
written blocks and elapsed time. So I changed
BLKSIZE=0 to both JCL above. As result, the first job
runs fine as before, but in the second IEBGENER
doesn't want to copy the file. I always get:

IEB352I WARNING: ONE OR MORE OF THE OUTPUT DCB PARMS
COPIED FROM INPUT
IEB317I JOB TERMINATED,NO INPUT BLKSIZE/LRECL

I tried several time adding PARM='SDB=YES' or LARGE,
but no way. I tried to comment DCB out, no way either.
I really ran out of ideas. I know I can use DFSMSdss
COPYDUMP to accomplish the second goal, but the
question here is why is IEBGENER not able to handle a
file whose BLKSIZE has been system determined.

We are at z/OS 1.4 level. Any help is appreciated.



AFAIK it is ADRDSSU fault. ADRDSSU does *not* use LBI (blocksize 
32kB), however uses blocks up to 64kB in it's own way. I would say 
illegal way.
The effect is there is no valid blocksize information neither in TMS 
(IBM RMM at least) nor tape labels. The dataset looks like it would 
have blocksize=0. Not SDB, just ZERO.


Solution:
Method 1.
Code blocksize=32760 in first step. Probably (I haven't checked it) 
you'll get 'legal' blocksize values.

Method 2.
Change step2, drop IEBGENER, use ADRDSSU COPYDUMP instead.
Method 3.
Use OUTDD(TAPE1,TAPE2) in first step and drop second.



Rad,

Sorry, DFDSS overrides any blocksize and substitutes it with its own 
blocksize.  It used to fail if you specified blocksize.  With IEBGENER, 
you cannot specify BLKSIZE=0 for a RECFM=U file, you must specify an 
explicit numeric blocksize.  I agree with the poster who said earlier 
that you should use two OUTDD statements in DFDSS to make a separate 
copy.  You can't copy DFDSS tapes with IBM utilities.


Tom,
(I'm Radek, Rad is very radioactive g)
1. Documentation clearly says dss honor specified blocksize value, some 
limitation apply:
If the DCB keyword BLKSIZE is specified on the DD statement for tape or 
DASD, it must be in the range of 7 892 to 32 760 inclusive.

What did you mean saying it used to fail ? Any scenario ?

2. Yes, I can copy DFDSS tapes using IBM utilitiy - DSS COPYDUMP. It is 
utility, it comes from IBM. I believe DITTO (IBM utility) can also copy 
the tape, and latest Tivoli branded tool as well.


3. I agree, in this case double outddname would be the best.

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Re: IEBGENER and SDB

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

Bruce Black wrote:

SDB does not work for RECFM=U, which can't be blocked by definition.  
The application (DSS in this case) controls the actually blocksize.


In any case, DSS writes blocks up to 64K (even though the DCB info says 
32760).  You can't copy a DSS backup (or an FDR backup) with IEBGENER, 
the output will not be usable).


AFAIK tape label says 0.
BTW: In any case, DSS writes blocks up to 64K - do you mean tapes 
only, or also disk ?

I know, 3390 track is less than 64k, but it is more than 32k.
I believe it takes half track.

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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread mary george
thanks all i will check for the svc

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Must be a System Completion 
code.
SFxx means that SVC xx is not installed in the system, in this case SVC 205.
Check your installation procedures how to install the IMS SVCs.

Kees.


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Re: FICON and CTC

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

Marian Gasparovic wrote:


As usual, when I ask question I find answer shortly after :)
This is from the same redbook

The FICON channel at each end of the FICON CTC connection, supporting the FCTC
control units, can also communicate with other FICON native control
units, such as disk
and tape.

So chpid is type FC and then there are CU of FCTC and 3990.
I like to answer myself :)


My $0.02:
The requirement for CTC is to connect FC chpid to switch.
So for ESCON CTC you need at least two chpids, but you don't need switch,
for FICON CTC you need only one chpid, but you also need switch.

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Re: IEBGENER and SDB

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

Walter Marguccio wrote:
[...]
P.S. Radoslaw, what is EHPO ? 


Feature of IBM VTS, FC3200 or FC3400.
Extended High Performance Option.

It compresses data coming from host, so all data in TVC (cache disk) is 
already compressed. Major advantage is approx. triple effective cache 
size. The data is then copied to physical (stacked) tape volumes, drive 
compression is on, but compression of already compressed data is poor.


BTW: I believe it is base (mandatory) feature in B10 and B20.

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Re: FICON and CTC

2005-07-21 Thread ibm-main
From: R.S.

 My $0.02:
 The requirement for CTC is to connect FC chpid to switch.
 So for ESCON CTC you need at least two chpids, but you don't need switch,
 for FICON CTC you need only one chpid, but you also need switch.

I recently had cause to wonder why we don't have the option of slushware
CTCs on the current/latest kit.
We can do it for peer mode coupling links,even hiperSockets but not CTCs -
for them we have to waste real FICON glass.
C'mon IBM - if you need to placate the marketing droids call 'em hiperCTCs
for all I care, just give us the option.

 ... more whistling in the wind I guess.

Shane ...

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SMF records

2005-07-21 Thread Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia
Hi listers,

What SMF records should I be looking if I want to find if someone has
deleted an alias for a user?
I have downloaded DAF and it is not giving me what I want to find (for
security team). Any ideas?

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Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-21 Thread Peter Relson
OK, I'll bite.

In what way would having an MNOTE issued from STAE help someone? STAE is
fully supported (and will be forever); it is just that there are better
things out there, especially considering that STAE does not even support
AMODE 31. If you're currently happy with your use of STAE, what benefit is
there to your changing your (presumably working) program from its current
use? If the MNOTE was a warning (CC=4), current users would be very
unhappy. If it was CC=0 then you'd have to know to search for the MNOTE
(unless you stumbled over it), and if you did know to search for it, you'd
know enough just to scan for STAE.

And if you're new and looking at documentation, you will see that the
first line of the documentation for STAE contains
Note: IBM recommends that you use the ESTAEX macro or ESTAE macro rather
than STAE.

Peter Relson
z/OS Technology Design

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Betr.: SMF records

2005-07-21 Thread G. van Arnhem
Hi,

I think type 65 (ICF delete activity)  is the one you're looking for.

Gerrit.



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Re: NEW IBM Mainframes This week?

2005-07-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Tom Grieve wrote:
  Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/20/ibm_mainframe_refresh/
 
  
  z/OS 7.1? I can't wait!
  
  Tom Grieve
  CICS Development, IBM Hursley Park
  
 
 Interesting typo for what of course is really z/OS 1.7!
 
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IBM's algorithmes of numbering products have always been a mistery, so we
will not be surprised by whatever the name will be of z/OS 1.7's successor,
maybe 7.1 -;). 
If so, considering the large jump in numbers, the jump in technology will be
of the same magnitude, so I bet on a DVD incorporating microcode, operating
system, DB2, IMS, Communication Server, etc. etc., all loaded into the HMC,
activated by a single POR. All, of course, upgradable via concurrent,
non-disruptive maintenance by IBM engineers.
Disaster strikes at unexpected moments, we only have a couple of months to
find new jobs...

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Re: TLAs - was summit else entirely ...

2005-07-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
'zed-oh-ess'.

Hello, Kettle?  This is Pot.  You're noir!
...

Zee/Zed was a big issue in Canada, when I was growing up in the 1960's.

It was a cultural thing similar to the concerns some third world countries have 
about being 'Westernised'.

I still will use 'Zed'.
-teD

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All others bring data!
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Re: TLAs - was summit else entirely

2005-07-21 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of john gilmore
 
 Ted MacNeil writes:
 
   Even Hersley [sic] (the IBM lab that wrote  supports) CICS 
 pronounces it.  Who should know better?
 
 
 and, Ted, if you're going to take positions on these niceties 
 you must get your facts right.
 
 CICS is and has for long been maintained at Hursley with a 
 'u',  but it was not written there: It was written by three 
 IBM SEs (in that long-ago time when SEs wrote assembly 
 language with facility) in the United States.

Des Plaines, Illinois, to be exact:  Approximately two miles (3.2 km) west
of my office.

http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev196803.htm

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Re: NEW IBM Mainframes This week?

2005-07-21 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 7/21/2005 7:10:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

IBM's  algorithmes of numbering products have always been a mistery, so we
will  not be surprised by whatever the name will be of z/OS 1.7's  successor,
maybe 7.1 -;).


Let's hope they get rid of the letter Z so we will all be able to  
pronounce its name the same way.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-21 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
 
In a message dated 7/20/2005 4:32:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You are  correct as far as it goes.

What you are not taking into consideration  is the overhead applied by the 
DASD controller to each physical  block.

A complete calculation must take into consideration Record Zero  + 255 Data 
Areas + 255 Count Areas + (Optionally) 255 Key Areas + all of the  associated 
inter-block gaps.




New controller microcode would be needed to allow 255 records, each of  which 
was 65535 bytes long with a possibly 255-byte-long key, to occupy the same  
one virtual track.  Given the need for new microcode, why must we continue  the 
legacy of overhead for R0, count areas, and gaps?  Let the new virtual  track 
size be as large as it needs to be.  So maybe it exceeds 16MiB by a  few 
thousand bytes and thus needs more than 24 bits.  Who cares?  It's  all virtual 
and being mapped onto real disks through complex mapping  algorithms.
 
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In a message dated 7/20/2005 4:32:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You are  correct as far as it goes.

What you are not taking into consideration  is the overhead applied by the 
DASD controller to each physical  block.

A complete calculation must take into consideration Record Zero  + 255 Data 
Areas + 255 Count Areas + (Optionally) 255 Key Areas + all of the  associated 
inter-block gaps.




New controller microcode would be needed to allow 255 records, each of  which 
was 65535 bytes long with a possibly 255-byte-long key, to occupy the same  
one virtual track.  Given the need for new microcode, why must we continue  the 
legacy of overhead for R0, count areas, and gaps?  Let the new virtual  track 
size be as large as it needs to be.  So maybe it exceeds 16MiB by a  few 
thousand bytes and thus needs more than 24 bits.  Who cares?  It's  all virtual 
and being mapped onto real disks through complex mapping  algorithms.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-21 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Check the archives.  This is WAD.  DB2 uses cross memory services to
operate, and in order to reduce the number of resources it uses, at
subsystem initialization, it issues an SRB into the MASTER address space to
allocate the system LX's.  Because of this, when DB2 subsystems shutdown,
the ASN's are marked as non-reusable because there is a XM linkage between
ASN 1 and the DB2 ASN's.  (I am not sure if the ASN reuse code in z/OS 1.6
changes this, maybe Peter Relson could comment).  
The best way to avoid this situation is to NOT recycle DB2 regions.  I see
little reason why DB2 has to be stopped during the lifetime of an IPL. 

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
Western Metal Supply
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
  

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All,

I understand why RSVNONR is in a bit of a fix g in our shop and we're
trying to address the problem by getting the problem tasks to shutdown
-cleanly- but aren't having much luck so I thought I'd run it up the flag
pole (so to speak) and see if any of you have found a solution or might
suggest one. 

The -offending- address spaces are -all- DB2 regions that get cycled on a
regular basis (I still need to talk to the DBA to see why). We've got
Landmark and BMC as well as CICS that -touch- DB2 and we've tryed shutting
them down in about everyway possible but the IEF352I message won't go away
and of course the used RSVNONR keeps increasing with every shutdown and
startup of DB2. 

It's been 2.5 months since an IPL and we plan on increasing RSVNONR from
99 to 2xx but it just urks me to think we might -have- to have planned IPL's
over something this silly. Has anyone found a way around it or do you all
just plan an IPL on some scheduled basis and call it a day? 



Bill

Mainframe - 

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billions of obsolete customers, and making huge obsolete profits, for their
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Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  [ snip ]
  
  What?!? Only 64-bit? Sun has announced that they have a 
  128-bit capable filesystem (3.4E38 bytes)! We __must__ 
  respond to this blatant attack by announcing a 512 bit 
  capable filesystem. This is approximately 1.34E154 bytes. 
  We'll just convert the entire structure of the Earth into a 
  data repository to contain this amount of data yeah, sure.
 
 According to some physicists, there aren't that many atoms in the known
 universe, so somebody would have to invent a new means of virtualizing
 that much storage.  :-)
 
 -jc-

I think that is no problem, recall the saying 640K is more than enough
More recently there was a discussion how to fill the 64bit memory range with
data. To begin with, every sandgrain on earth could be put in there. But
then again, each grain has a color, a structure, a composition, found on
some place on earth, age, history etc., so it is like storageroom on the
loft of your house: whatever its size, it will always eventually fill up and
you will need more space.

Kees.


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Re: NEW IBM Mainframes This week?

2005-07-21 Thread Birger Heede

Why wouldn't it arrive powered on? ('POR' should be retired)

Birger Heede
IBM Software Group


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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/20/ibm_mainframe_refresh/



z/OS 7.1? I can't wait!

Tom Grieve
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Interesting typo for what of course is really z/OS 1.7!

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will not be surprised by whatever the name will be of z/OS 1.7's successor,
maybe 7.1 -;). 
If so, considering the large jump in numbers, the jump in technology will be

of the same magnitude, so I bet on a DVD incorporating microcode, operating
system, DB2, IMS, Communication Server, etc. etc., all loaded into the HMC,
activated by a single POR. All, of course, upgradable via concurrent,
non-disruptive maintenance by IBM engineers.
Disaster strikes at unexpected moments, we only have a couple of months to
find new jobs...

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Re: NEW IBM Mainframes This week?

2005-07-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
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 IBM's  algorithmes of numbering products have always been a mistery, so we
 will  not be surprised by whatever the name will be of z/OS 1.7's
successor,
 maybe 7.1 -;).
 
 
 Let's hope they get rid of the letter Z so we will all be able to  
 pronounce its name the same way.
  
 Bill Fairchild
 

I wonder what it will be. 
The z/OS was to be pronounced as THE OS, so I wonder what is going to be
better than the best?

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Re: The secret to multi-volume, non-SMS, DASD allocations?

2005-07-21 Thread willie bunter
Correct me if I am wrong your vol parm isn't that exclusive to tape volume 
output?

Steve Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello, z/OS 1.4 with non SMS, 3380 SYSDA 
here!

Is there some secret to multi-volume allocations that I don't know?

Basically, this JCL:

//SORTOUT DD DSN=TEMP,DISP=(,PASS),
// UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=(,,,8),
// SPACE=(CYL,(1000,1000),RLSE),
// DCB=(LRECL=149,BLKSIZE=0,RECFM=FB)

is B37-04 ing after filling up only the first volume. (I need to write 
about 6000 Cyls.) 

Any thoughts? I do not want to hard-code vol-ser's.

Thanks.

Stg

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VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread Natasa Savinc
Hello,

where can I find information about customizing VSAM browser (is that ISPF
feature or something else)?

Regards,
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Accessin system symbolics from assembler

2005-07-21 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT)
We have defined some system symbolics that I'd like to be able to test from
an assembler program. I haven't found a macro to give me the info but I have
found ECVTSYMT which is a pointer to the table. I took a dump to look at the
format of the table and it is a mystery to me. Anybody know how to format
this table.

Thanks  

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
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Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:


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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John

[ snip ]

What?!? Only 64-bit? Sun has announced that they have a 
128-bit capable filesystem (3.4E38 bytes)! We __must__ 
respond to this blatant attack by announcing a 512 bit 
capable filesystem. This is approximately 1.34E154 bytes. 
We'll just convert the entire structure of the Earth into a 
data repository to contain this amount of data yeah, sure.


According to some physicists, there aren't that many atoms in the known
universe, so somebody would have to invent a new means of virtualizing
that much storage.  :-)

   -jc-



I think that is no problem, recall the saying 640K is more than enough
More recently there was a discussion how to fill the 64bit memory range with
data. To begin with, every sandgrain on earth could be put in there. But
then again, each grain has a color, a structure, a composition, found on
some place on earth, age, history etc., so it is like storageroom on the
loft of your house: whatever its size, it will always eventually fill up and
you will need more space.


Why grains, why data ?
It is enough to install new version of Windows.
Win 3.0 could be cut to occupy approx. 1.6 MB, Windows 3.1 took about 
10-20MB (approx. 5 MB at least), Win95 maybe 40 MB, Win98 approx. 100MB, 
Win XP is over 1GB.

Every con has colour, age, history...
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Re: The secret to multi-volume, non-SMS, DASD allocations?

2005-07-21 Thread Steve Grimes
I dropped the VOL= and just kept the modified UNIT parm.  It seems to be 
working fine. 

Stg

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Re: The secret to multi-volume, non-SMS, DASD allocations?

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

No.
VOL=(,,,8) means 8 volumes. It can be disk or tape.
For disk it will be 8 volumes, no more. For tape it will be up to 20 
volumes (5+15).


BTW: life could be easier: temp datasets can be SMS-managed, no problems 
with volume use attributes, no need for UNIT, automatic VIO selection...


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willie bunter wrote:


Correct me if I am wrong your vol parm isn't that exclusive to tape volume 
output?

Steve Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello, z/OS 1.4 with non SMS, 3380 SYSDA 
here!

Is there some secret to multi-volume allocations that I don't know?

Basically, this JCL:

//SORTOUT DD DSN=TEMP,DISP=(,PASS),
// UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=(,,,8),
// SPACE=(CYL,(1000,1000),RLSE),
// DCB=(LRECL=149,BLKSIZE=0,RECFM=FB)

is B37-04 ing after filling up only the first volume. (I need to write 
about 6000 Cyls.) 


Any thoughts? I do not want to hard-code vol-ser's.

Thanks.



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Re: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

2005-07-21 Thread Gary Green
Do a search in SAMPLIB for ASASYMBM.  You should see a sample of how to gain
access to the symbols in the system.  If need be, I think I have a block of
code to parse the in-core (how long has it been since anyone used that term
-core-) table.

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Subject: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

We have defined some system symbolics that I'd like to be able to test from
an assembler program. I haven't found a macro to give me the info but I have
found ECVTSYMT which is a pointer to the table. I took a dump to look at the
format of the table and it is a mystery to me. Anybody know how to format
this table.

Thanks  

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
Contractor 
 

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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:57:21 -0500, Natasa Savinc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Hello,

where can I find information about customizing VSAM browser (is that ISPF
feature or something else)?

Regards,
Natasa

It isn't really a feature of ISPF, but if you try to browse a VSAM
file ISPF invokes the command that is specified in the customization
table.  By default, that command is DITTO.

When consulting I did not have control of that command nor the
installed software, so I always used REVIEW (Greg Price's
excelent tool - CBT file 134/135) or GSF's BR command (CBT file
183) in combination with this DITTO REXX exec:

/* REXX */
/* THIS IS FOR 3.4 BROWSE OF A VSAM DSN SINCE THE DEFAULT ISPF */
/* CUSTOMIZATION INVOKES THE DITTO COMMAND */
ARG . DSN .
BR DSN/* USE GILBERT SAINT-FLOUR'S BR:  FROM CBT FILE 183 */
/* REV DSN */  /* USE GREG PRICES REVIEW COMMAND FROM CBT FILE 134 */


If you have REVIEW or BR, simply put this exec in a SYSPROC/SYSEXEC
ISPF library and you will be able to browse VSAM (for free).

CBT site:  http://www.cbttape.org

Cheers,

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Re: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

2005-07-21 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT)
Thanks Gary. The ASASYMBM routine looks to be just what I need.

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
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301-594-7474
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

Do a search in SAMPLIB for ASASYMBM.  You should see a sample of how to gain
access to the symbols in the system.  If need be, I think I have a block of
code to parse the in-core (how long has it been since anyone used that term
-core-) table.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT)
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

We have defined some system symbolics that I'd like to be able to test from
an assembler program. I haven't found a macro to give me the info but I have
found ECVTSYMT which is a pointer to the table. I took a dump to look at the
format of the table and it is a mystery to me. Anybody know how to format
this table.

Thanks  

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
Contractor 
 

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Re: TLAs - was summit else entirely

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:16:04 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Des Plaines, Illinois, to be exact:  Approximately two miles (3.2 km) west
of my office.

http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev196803.htm


Ahhh, the town grew up and lived in most of my life.  Home of the
first Micky D's.

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Re: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

2005-07-21 Thread Rob Scott
If you know the name of the symbol and just want to replace it - use
ASASYMBM - documented in Assembler Services Ref.

If you want an example of processing the ECVTSYMT - see the LISTSYM
program on my personal website (www.mximvs.com) - it is in the REXX
Functions Download section.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT)
Sent: 21 July 2005 08:48
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

We have defined some system symbolics that I'd like to be able to test
from
an assembler program. I haven't found a macro to give me the info but I
have
found ECVTSYMT which is a pointer to the table. I took a dump to look at
the
format of the table and it is a mystery to me. Anybody know how to
format
this table.

Thanks  

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
Contractor 
 

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Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:37:00 -0500
 
 What?!? Only 64-bit? Sun has announced that they have a 128-bit capable
 filesystem (3.4E38 bytes)! We __must__ respond to this blatant attack by
 announcing a 512 bit capable filesystem. This is approximately 1.34E154
 bytes. We'll just convert the entire structure of the Earth into a data
 repository to contain this amount of data yeah, sure.
 
OK.  Scalable.  If the language for commands between the CPU and
the storage control unit were the ever-so-fashionable XML, there
would be no fixed limit on address size.

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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread John P Kalinich
First, you need a VSAM browser.  The REVIEW command on www.cbttape.org,
file 134 is a good free one.  Second, there is an ISPF configuration
parameter to invoke a specific VSAM browser on option 1 (VIEW) when the
dataset is in VSAM format.

Regards,
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Computer Sciences Corp




  
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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

Natasa Savinc wrote:


Hello,

where can I find information about customizing VSAM browser (is that ISPF
feature or something else)?


IMHO it is separate (priced) feature. It can be IBM DITTO product, I 
believe, other products can also be used.
If you have DITTO, you can integrate it with ISPF, so action character 
B invokes DITTO and browses your VSAM dataset.
I did it, the configuration change is written to loadmodule ISPCFIGUon 
ISPLLIB concatenation. See command ISPCCONF.


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Re: Accessin system symbolics from assembler

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:47:42 -0400, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have defined some system symbolics that I'd like to be able to test from
an assembler program. I haven't found a macro to give me the info but I
have
found ECVTSYMT which is a pointer to the table. I took a dump to look at
the
format of the table and it is a mystery to me. Anybody know how to format
this table.

Thanks


You can see how via REXX in my IPLINFO exec, but I suggest you use
the ASASYMBM service for assembler.  See the assembler services
manuals for details.

Regards,

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Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread Craddock, Chris
 The subject says it all, I am trying to find out if there is a
 supported+documented interface to set and retrieve the 
 TCBUSER word from a
 NON-authorized program WITHOUT writing any authorized code.
 
 I tried a simple ST instruction, but that's an 0C4 storage violation.
 
 TIA for any RTFM/info/etc. you can provide.  z/OS 1.4 is the 
 environment.

Dream on. The TCB is key zero (LSQA) so you need to be in key
zero to modify it.

BUT!

TCBUSER is one of the all time bad ideas, along with CVTUSER.
You could never count on being the user so you could never
be sure you had the right to store/replace whateever was there.
And since everyone is in the same boat nobody uses it. 

If you're looking for a place to hang things, use name/token
services. 

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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Shirey
We have both these tools from the CBT tape and have discovered that they
have certain problems with the VS-E format.  You cannot, for instance, max
down to the bottom, or browse backwards.  Not that that negates their
benefits...  

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:38 AM
snip 

When consulting I did not have control of that command nor the
installed software, so I always used REVIEW (Greg Price's
excelent tool - CBT file 134/135) or GSF's BR command (CBT file
183) in combination with this DITTO REXX exec:

/* REXX */
/* THIS IS FOR 3.4 BROWSE OF A VSAM DSN SINCE THE DEFAULT ISPF */
/* CUSTOMIZATION INVOKES THE DITTO COMMAND */
ARG . DSN .
BR DSN/* USE GILBERT SAINT-FLOUR'S BR:  FROM CBT FILE 183 */
/* REV DSN */  /* USE GREG PRICES REVIEW COMMAND FROM CBT FILE 134 */


If you have REVIEW or BR, simply put this exec in a SYSPROC/SYSEXEC
ISPF library and you will be able to browse VSAM (for free).

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Re: NEW IBM Mainframes This week?

2005-07-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Yeah right,
OK, one last POR to enter the PORless era.
Remember how often we were promised that this was the last JES upgrade that
needed a cold start?

Kees.

Birger Heede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Why wouldn't it arrive powered on? ('POR' should be retired)
 
 Birger Heede
 IBM Software Group
 
 
 Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:
  John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  
 Tom Grieve wrote:
 
 Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/20/ibm_mainframe_refresh/
 
 
 z/OS 7.1? I can't wait!
 
 Tom Grieve
 CICS Development, IBM Hursley Park
 
 
 Interesting typo for what of course is really z/OS 1.7!
 
 -- 
  
  
  IBM's algorithmes of numbering products have always been a mistery, so
we
  will not be surprised by whatever the name will be of z/OS 1.7's
successor,
  maybe 7.1 -;). 
  If so, considering the large jump in numbers, the jump in technology
will be
  of the same magnitude, so I bet on a DVD incorporating microcode,
operating
  system, DB2, IMS, Communication Server, etc. etc., all loaded into the
HMC,
  activated by a single POR. All, of course, upgradable via concurrent,
  non-disruptive maintenance by IBM engineers.
  Disaster strikes at unexpected moments, we only have a couple of months
to
  find new jobs...
  
  Kees.
  


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Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, I quickly found that out.  As I was once an ISV software programmer, I
am well aware of not being able to guarantee you are the one using the
field, so I quickly abandoned that idea.

Earlier in this thread Rolf Ernst also pointed out the TCBFSA hack, which
works very well (especially when the storage address is already being passed
as a parameter in R1!).  TCBFSA points to a key 8 save area at the top of
the task's SA chain, so no storage violations if you choose to use it.

And yes, name/token services is the right answer.  Hacks can always be
compromised by software upgrades.

Peter

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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori
zed?


 The subject says it all, I am trying to find out if there is a
 supported+documented interface to set and retrieve the
 TCBUSER word from a
 NON-authorized program WITHOUT writing any authorized code.
 
 I tried a simple ST instruction, but that's an 0C4 storage violation.
 
 TIA for any RTFM/info/etc. you can provide.  z/OS 1.4 is the
 environment.

Dream on. The TCB is key zero (LSQA) so you need to be in key zero to modify
it.

BUT!

TCBUSER is one of the all time bad ideas, along with CVTUSER. You could
never count on being the user so you could never be sure you had the right
to store/replace whateever was there. And since everyone is in the same boat
nobody uses it. 

If you're looking for a place to hang things, use name/token services. 

CC

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Re: TLAs - was summit else entirely

2005-07-21 Thread Ray Mullins
OT for a little correction - the first Mickey D's that Ray Kroc opened.

_The_ first Mickey D's was in Riverside, CA, with a second store on Route 66
in San Bernardino.  That's where Mr. Kroc stopped to eat one day, and was
very impressed with the assembly line process.

The rest, blah, blah, blah, and you can now get the same crappy hamburger
almost anywhere in the world.  :-)


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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:16:04 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Des Plaines, Illinois, to be exact:  Approximately two miles (3.2 km) 
west of my office.

http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev196803.htm


Ahhh, the town grew up and lived in most of my life.  Home of the first
Micky D's.

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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/21/2005 4:34:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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thanks  all i will check for the svc





Don't forget PARMLIB. Should be in post install considerations.
 

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JES2 Cold Start (was Re: NEW IBM Mainframes)

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:43:22 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah right,
OK, one last POR to enter the PORless era.
Remember how often we were promised that this was the last JES upgrade
that
needed a cold start?


And that promise has been kept (as long as you stayed within the
supported coexistence levels).  The last one I did was probably
at the MVS/ESA V5 level.

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Re: Migration to a new processor 2086

2005-07-21 Thread Hal Merritt
It is one of the responsibilities of the BP to help you over any
migration bumps. 

IBM supplies detailed checklists and procedures for the Assurance
process. More, you get access to some 'big guns' if you run into any
serious issues in the discovery process. 

HTH and good luck. 

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Subject: Migration to a new processor 2086

Hello,

I still migrating a Multiprise 3000 to a 2086 (Z890 Family).

Does someone have bad experiences during IPL : problem with memery,
couple
dataset, etc

Any infos or advises could help me.

Best regards

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Re: supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread john gilmore

Chris Craddock writes:



If you're looking for a place to hang things, use name/token services.



and that is sovereign advice if you need a facility for communication among, 
say, independent tasks or address spaces.


Name/token services can also be used within a single task, but for this 
purpose DXD and CXD are radically better because simpler and faster.


John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721
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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread John P Kalinich
Greg,

What is the VS-E format?

Regards,
John Kalinich
Computer Sciences Corp




  
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We have both these tools from the CBT tape and have discovered that they
have certain problems with the VS-E format.  You cannot, for instance, max
down to the bottom, or browse backwards.  Not that that negates their
benefits...

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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When consulting I did not have control of that command nor the
installed software, so I always used REVIEW (Greg Price's
excelent tool - CBT file 134/135) or GSF's BR command (CBT file
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Re: Secure FTP on z/OS

2005-07-21 Thread Hal Merritt
Test results very positive on 1.4. I did find the 1.6 manuals somewhat
easier to understand.

For testing, I used one LPAR to talk to another. I seem to recall that
the server had to be correctly configured for the client to work
properly on a given host.  

One gotcha: don't use a human ID to own certificates. If that ID is ever
deleted, so are the certificates. Or so I understand.  

There is lots of discussion on the RACF list. 

HTH and good luck.   

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Subject: Re: Secure FTP on z/OS

Neal Eckhardt wrote:
 I have seen it documented that SSL/TLS is supported in the FTP server
 from z/OS 1.2 and later. Does the FTP client also support SSL/TLS?  I
 can't find anything in the z/OS 1.4 configuration manual referencing
 SSL/TLS in the CLIENT.
 
 Thanks,
 Neal

Not sure about the 1.4 manuals, but it is in the 1.6 manuals.

You may want to check the IP User's Guide and Commands.  Look at the 
section on FTCDATA and the parameter SECURE_FTP.

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Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-21 Thread Scott Rowe
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:35:22 -0600, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Can't the game install a usermod, if that's what the gamer consents
to?  Does XP allow viruses?  They thrive nonetheless.

What?  A usermod to allow the program to reboot the system under a
different operating system, while continuing to use WinXP services (disk
access, network, DirectX for display/sound)?  That's not only silly, that's
downright absurd.

Ed: I took a look over at Alienware and didn't see options for DOS or NONE,
so I'm interested in how you got there.  I haven't seen a PC sold with DOS
for several years, but NONE can be found as an option on occasion.

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Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-21 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
I couldn't resist... Not quite the earth as a repository, but something new.

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/index.html

Ron

 
 According to some physicists, there aren't that many atoms in the known
 universe, so somebody would have to invent a new means of virtualizing
 that much storage.  :-)
 
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Region requested by MQBroker

2005-07-21 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
Hi folks,

we are analyzing an incident about MQBroker and we have seen that
region requested is 54M but we don't find where region is codified.

Could you help us to find it?


RPT VERSION V1R2 RMF   TIME 16.33.28

PRIVATE AREA SUMMARY
JOB NAME -   Q0T1BRK3REGION REQUESTED 54.0M
STEP NAME -  STEP1 REGION ASSIGNED (BELOW 16M)  6400K
PROGRAM NAME -   BPXPRFC   REGION ASSIGNED (ABOVE 16M)   500M
NUMBER OF SAMPLES -17   


  PRIVATE STORAGE MAP   
   BELOW 16M  EXTENDED (ABOVE 16M)  
6F 
 7FFF
   | LSQA/SWA | | LSQA/SWA |
   | 229/230  276K|BOTTOM OF| 229/230  114M|
6BB000 |_16.33.29_| ALLOCATED AREA 
|_16.33.29_| 78E0
   | UNUSED   212K| | UNUSED   304M|
686000 |__|  GETMAIN LIMIT 
|__| 65E0
   | UNUSED  6568K| | UNUSED  77.5M|
 1C000 |_16.33.29_| TOP OF 
|_16.33.29_| 6107D000
   | USER | ALLOCATED AREA  | USER |
   | REGION88K| | REGION   |
  6000 |__| |  423M|
   | SYSTEM REGION 16K| |  |
  2000 
 46A0

Thank you

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Re: Region requested by MQBroker

2005-07-21 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
We have found following explanation:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/db2olap/v81docs/zosinst/olapz81tfrm.htm?olapz8115.htm
Programming the IEFUSI user exit
Memory should not be limited by the IEFUSI user exit. IBM recommends
that you bypass normal IEFUSI processing when the subsystem is OMVS.
DB2 OLAP Server spawns processes for each OLAP application. According
to the MVS Installation Exits manual, at the time of the IEFUSI
processing, the kernel has not yet propagated the parent's region size
to the child. Therefore, IEFUSI has nothing to work with. If IEFUSI
modifies the region size of the child process, the kernel will honor
that region size, and it will not propagate the region size from
parent to child.
This can result in a failure of a fork if the region size is
insufficient for the storage requirements of the forked process.
If you must run with the IEFUSI exit, be sure that it correctly
handles the region size available to the OMVS address space. The
IEFUSI exit should be coded to check for OMVS and should not set the
x'80' bit in REGFLAGS for OMVS regions. The REGFLAGS x'80' bit means
that you use the values that IEFUSI has set into the region size
values. This can cause an inappropriate and unintended region size
limit for OMVS; it is often 54 MB, but the value can vary by system.
If your IEFUSI exit has not been updated in several years, it is
likely that the OMVS address space runs with a 54 MB region size, even
though it looks like it is not limiting the OMVS region size. When IBM
added UNIX (Open Edition, then UNIX System Services), they made OMVS a
special case that behaves differently from other region types and
documented it as being different. Some customers did not amend their
IEFUSI exits that predated the introduction of the OMVS region type
and did not implement the change that IBM suggested. The suggestion
became a requirement when maintenance caused IEFUSI behavior to limit
the OMVS region size to 54 MB. OLAP is likely to require more memory
than 54 MB and will fail to execute correctly.
New variables were added to the REGION DSECT in recent years,
including REGNAME, which can be used to detect the OMVS region. Here
is some sample IEFUSI logic:
L   BASENAME,REGNAMEcheck for region type parm
CLC 0(4,BASENAMEN),=CL4'OMVS'   is it OMVS region?
BE  Return
OI  REGFLAGS,X'80'  SET THAT IEFUSI CONTROLS NON-OMVS REGION
You can find more information about the IEFUSI exit in MVS
Installation Exits and DOC APAR OW38477.



On 7/21/05, DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 we are analyzing an incident about MQBroker and we have seen that
 region requested is 54M but we don't find where region is codified.
 
 Could you help us to find it?
 
 
RPT VERSION V1R2 RMF   TIME 16.33.28
 
PRIVATE AREA SUMMARY
 JOB NAME -   Q0T1BRK3REGION REQUESTED 54.0M
 STEP NAME -  STEP1 REGION ASSIGNED (BELOW 16M)  6400K
 PROGRAM NAME -   BPXPRFC   REGION ASSIGNED (ABOVE 16M)   500M
 NUMBER OF SAMPLES -17
 
 
  PRIVATE STORAGE MAP
   BELOW 16M  EXTENDED (ABOVE 16M)
 6F 
  7FFF
   | LSQA/SWA | | LSQA/SWA |
   | 229/230  276K|BOTTOM OF| 229/230  114M|
 6BB000 |_16.33.29_| ALLOCATED AREA
 |_16.33.29_| 78E0
   | UNUSED   212K| | UNUSED   304M|
 686000 |__|  GETMAIN LIMIT
 |__| 65E0
   | UNUSED  6568K| | UNUSED  77.5M|
  1C000 |_16.33.29_| TOP OF
 |_16.33.29_| 6107D000
   | USER | ALLOCATED AREA  | USER |
   | REGION88K| | REGION   |
  6000 |__| |  423M|
   | SYSTEM REGION 16K| |  |
  2000 
  46A0
 
 Thank you


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Re: RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-21 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
What's interesting is that the Init  Tuning Reference manual says:

If started tasks or batch jobs that create non-reusable ASIDs end 
enough times, they will exhaust all available ASIDs and an IPL will be
required. When IPLing is not an acceptable option, determine which
programs caused the problems and fix them. For methods that prevent   
running out of ASIDs, see z/OS MVS Programming: Extended  
Addressability Guide. 

Perhaps IBM DB2 should take this advice.

Don Imbriale


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All,

I understand why RSVNONR is in a bit of a fix g in our shop and
we're
trying to address the problem by getting the problem tasks to shutdown
-cleanly- but aren't having much luck so I thought I'd run it up the
flag
pole (so to speak) and see if any of you have found a solution or might
suggest one.

The -offending- address spaces are -all- DB2 regions that get cycled on
a
regular basis (I still need to talk to the DBA to see why). We've got
Landmark and BMC as well as CICS that -touch- DB2 and we've tryed
shutting
them down in about everyway possible but the IEF352I message won't go
away
and of course the used RSVNONR keeps increasing with every shutdown and
startup of DB2.

It's been 2.5 months since an IPL and we plan on increasing RSVNONR
from
99 to 2xx but it just urks me to think we might -have- to have planned
IPL's over something this silly. Has anyone found a way around it or do
you all just plan an IPL on some scheduled basis and call it a day?



Bill

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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.

John P Kalinich wrote:

Greg,

What is the VS-E format?


My guess: VSAM Extended Format

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Re: EMC dasd question

2005-07-21 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Andy,

Assuming you are using some level of FICON, your throughput on DMX for full
volume dumps will be governed by physical disk contention rather than the
channels. The pre-fetch in EMC still works by alternating one disk at a time
(m1-m2-m1-m2), or a single disk for RAID-S/5. Alas, there is no striping,
and no parallel pre-fetch.

Plan your dumps to minimise physical disk contention and you may get the
most out of the FICON.

Ron

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 We are moving a datacenter to ours. We have a question does anyone know
 the transfer rates for a DMX2000 or DMX3000? We want to dump a dmx box to
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Re: supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 
 and that is sovereign advice if you need a facility for 
 communication among, 
 say, independent tasks or address spaces.
 
 Name/token services can also be used within a single task, 
 but for this 
 purpose DXD and CXD are radically better because simpler and faster.
 
 John Gilmore
 Ashland, MA 01721
 USA

Do DXD and CXD work for communications between modules which are
dynamically LOADed or LINKed to? I think that they only work for modules
which are composite linked (bound?). Like FORTRAN Named Common.

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Re: System completion code FCD

2005-07-21 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Wonderfully understated.

Don Imbriale

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Manuals are a marvellous thing.


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Re: Region requested by MQBroker

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Zelden
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Hi folks,

we are analyzing an incident about MQBroker and we have seen that
region requested is 54M but we don't find where region is codified.

Could you help us to find it?

It is an OMVS default.  Search the archives for discussion on
OMVS, IEFUSI, and the MAXASSIZE BPXPRMxx settings.

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RSVNONR again

2005-07-21 Thread R.S.
As I understood the manual, the address space is marked as unusable not 
to the end of life, but until all other address apces which co-operated 
with my a/s are ended.
In other words, a/s A uses cross memory with a/s B. When A is ended it 
is marked as unusable, until a/s B is also ended. Then both asid's are 
'cleared'.

Am I right ?
(assumed yes)
Now the question:
How can I find out the 'partner' address spaces for my address space ?
Any control blocks ?

Assuming I have to recycle A, maybe the solution for me would be to find 
B and recycle it also ?

I hope it is not MASTER g

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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Shirey
Yes, extended-format VSAM data set.  When you look at the DSLIST panel, it
will appear like this:

 Tracks %   XT Device  Dsorg Recfm Lrecl Blksz  CreatedExpires
Referred 
 VTT.FAM.VT040V.DATA
TEST01 
   465   ?  22 3390 VS-E ? ? ? 2005/06/08 ***None***
2005/07/20

So, I was just using this abbreviation to refer to the type of data set.

Greg 

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John P Kalinich wrote:
 Greg,
 
 What is the VS-E format?

My guess: VSAM Extended Format

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Re: RSVNONR again

2005-07-21 Thread Rob Scott
MXI (www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/) has the following two commands :

MDQ - The Memory Delete Queue - those ASIDs that have been marked
non-reus and the reasons why.

XM - Active Cross-Memory Connections - shows the active cross-memory
connections between address spaces in the system.

Both these commands require MXI to be running authorized at the code
involves snooping around control blocks in the PCAUTH address space.


SHOWMVS (www.cbttape.org) also has this functionality.

 

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Subject: RSVNONR again

As I understood the manual, the address space is marked as unusable not 
to the end of life, but until all other address apces which co-operated 
with my a/s are ended.
In other words, a/s A uses cross memory with a/s B. When A is ended it 
is marked as unusable, until a/s B is also ended. Then both asid's are 
'cleared'.
Am I right ?
(assumed yes)
Now the question:
How can I find out the 'partner' address spaces for my address space ?
Any control blocks ?

Assuming I have to recycle A, maybe the solution for me would be to find

B and recycle it also ?
I hope it is not MASTER g

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Re: supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread john gilmore

John McKown writes:


Do DXD and CXD work for communications between modules which are
dynamically LOADed or LINKed to? I think that they only work for modules
which are composite linked (bound?). Like FORTRAN Named Common.


Although the mechanism used is not like FORTRAN named common and its C and 
PL/I analogues, the linkage editor in the past and now the binder play a 
crucial role.  CXD is in fact a request to the binder tpo place the 
cumulative pseudoregister, externsal dummy section,  length in a specified 
location.  Moreover, just as  PL/I controlled variables can have either 
scope, internal or external, it is possible to limnit access to this storage 
to a single callable routine, which CAN make addresses available to other 
dynamically loaded or linked-to routines.


None of this is for novices, but then neither are name/token services.  My 
point was that within a single perhaps multitasking or multithreaded context 
DXD and CXD are very much more efficient.



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ADMINISTRIVIA: Off Topic Posts

2005-07-21 Thread Darren Evans-Young
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Re: RSVNONR again

2005-07-21 Thread mf-system
Hi,

There is a Control Block named XMD (Cross Memory Directory).

Shy

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As I understood the manual, the address space is marked as unusable not
to the end of life, but until all other address apces which co-operated
with my a/s are ended.
In other words, a/s A uses cross memory with a/s B. When A is ended it
is marked as unusable, until a/s B is also ended. Then both asid's are
'cleared'.
Am I right ?
(assumed yes)
Now the question:
How can I find out the 'partner' address spaces for my address space ?
Any control blocks ?

Assuming I have to recycle A, maybe the solution for me would be to find
B and recycle it also ?
I hope it is not MASTER g

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Re: RSVNONR again

2005-07-21 Thread Rob Scott
Actually there is a little bit to it than that.

IBM very helpfully documented most of it in Info APAR - II08563

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Hi,

There is a Control Block named XMD (Cross Memory Directory).

Shy

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Subject: RSVNONR again

As I understood the manual, the address space is marked as unusable not
to the end of life, but until all other address apces which co-operated
with my a/s are ended.
In other words, a/s A uses cross memory with a/s B. When A is ended it
is marked as unusable, until a/s B is also ended. Then both asid's are
'cleared'.
Am I right ?
(assumed yes)
Now the question:
How can I find out the 'partner' address spaces for my address space ?
Any control blocks ?

Assuming I have to recycle A, maybe the solution for me would be to find
B and recycle it also ?
I hope it is not MASTER g

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Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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Ed: I  took a look over at Alienware and didn't see options for DOS or NONE,
so  I'm interested in how you got there.  I haven't seen a PC sold with  DOS
for several years, but NONE can be found as an option on  occasion.




I don't know. This is pretty typical for Gamer Customizations.
 
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TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello all,
 
I haven't had to do anything like this for a while but can anyone tell me how I 
can unallocate at dataset in ISPF option 6.
 
Thanks


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Re: RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/21/2005 10:19:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Perhaps  IBM DB2 should take this advice.




Is it DB/2 or customization? The default since DB/2 3.1 is
Cross memory NO in IRLM setup. If this is being overridden
during install then it will chew up more ASIDs. I don't
remember if it was Bill Frey or Don Boos at SHARE explained that with  
companion address spaces have to mark them as not reusable due
to integrity concerns. 

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Re: SMPE Help

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
Sorry all,
 
I've been out of touch for a while so I'm answering late.  Thanks all for you 
help.

Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 15, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Howard Rifkind wrote:

 Ed, how would I prevent this from happening again?

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 Can I move these datasets without causing major issues with SMPE?



 Probably. If they're the work of RECEIVE. I'd move them and
 do APPLY check. If it can't find them it will sure hold up it's hand.


Hi Howard long time no see..

Update the SMP RECEIVE JOB (in the case of not using DD DEF's or if 
you are using DD DEFS update the DD DEF for SMPETLIB to point to what 
ever volume you wish . If you are using SMS for controlling your 
allocations update the ACS logic .

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Re: VSAM browser

2005-07-21 Thread Natasa Savinc
Thank you all for help!
Best regards,
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Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
TSO FREE DATASET('your.dataset.name')

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I haven't had to do anything like this for a while but can anyone tell me
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Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Kirk Talman
FREE DA('mydatasetname')

Doesn't work if dataset is open.





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Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Richards.Bob
Issue the FREE command.

FREE   DATASET('DSLIST') FILE('DDLIST') 
   ATTRLIST('ALNLIST')  
   OUTDES('OUTDLIST')   
   DEST('STATIONID')
   HOLD/NOHOLD  
   KEEP/DELETE/CATALOG/UNCATALOG/SYSOUT('CLASS')
   ALL  
   PATH(PATHNAME)   
   PATHDISP(OVERRIDE-DISPOSITION)   
   SPIN(UNALLOC | NO)   

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Re: User experiences TAPE/COPY

2005-07-21 Thread Don Bolton
Lieven,

The great thing about Tape/Copy is that we do have many customers using the
product.  If you would like a list of customer references you can email me
directly or give us a call at the 800 number listed below. IBM and STK
professional services use Tape/Copy whenever they perform any migrations.

Tape/Copy does copy both cataloged and non-cataloged tapes without first
identifying the volume serial number.  Tape/Copy is able to stack if you
want to stack to high density tape (3590,3592, 9840) and select enough
datasets to fill the tape.  Tape/Copy can also unstack all the datasets on a
stacked tape or extract one file or a list of files from a stacked tape.  

Tape/Copy can also identify what tapes are in an ATL and which are in a VTL.

Tape/Copy does have an ESTAE routine and is capable of continuing after a
bad tape if you are not stacking.

Once a tape dataset is migrated to a new volume the TMS is updated with the
original information, such as created date/time/program.  We do not expect
you the customer to write any home-grown code to update the TMS.  Tape/Copy
does support and have customers running all of the know Tape Management
systems, CA1, TLMS, RMM, Control-T, Zara.

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 Is there anyone out there who wants to share their experience with
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 I'm especially interested in media conversion (3490 - 3590) done with the
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Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-21 Thread Scott Rowe
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:24:52 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know. This is pretty typical for Gamer Customizations.

_http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/configdetails.asp?Base=12
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(http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/configdetails.asp?Base=1272096)

Well, I never actually buy pre-built systems (I build my systems myself),
but I hadn't seen DOS recently.  I'm still wondering what DOS they are
referring to, since MS-DOS is no more.  It could be Caldera's DOS or
Free-DOS, but they don't specify.

In any case, I don't think you should assume that DOS is used for any of the
current commercial PC game software, the additional development effort
required to replicate all of the graphic/sound, etc functions of WinXP would
be astronomical.

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Re: supported interface to set/retrieve TCBUSER field NON-authori zed?

2005-07-21 Thread Don Poitras
McKown, John wrote:
 
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  field NON-authori zed?
 
 
 
 snip
 
 
  and that is sovereign advice if you need a facility for
  communication among,
  say, independent tasks or address spaces.
 
  Name/token services can also be used within a single task,
  but for this
  purpose DXD and CXD are radically better because simpler and faster.
 
  John Gilmore
  Ashland, MA 01721
  USA
 
 Do DXD and CXD work for communications between modules which are
 dynamically LOADed or LINKed to? I think that they only work for modules
 which are composite linked (bound?). Like FORTRAN Named Common.

For dynamic modules, you can use XATTR. 

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Re: RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-21 Thread William Ball
There you go trying to use logic again. g

These are the same folks that make the -caller- look like they're 
responsible for performance issues on DB2 calls. Pretty cagey folks, I'd 
say.

Interesting also is in the Extended ... Guide two ways to avoid the 
problem are:

1. Increase RSVNONR big enough to cover between IPL's.
2. Fix the application.Yea I see that happening. g

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Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353 said:

 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:48:30 -0400
 Subject:  Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.
 
 TSO FREE DATASET('your.dataset.name')
 
I generally prefer to unallocate by DDNAME rather than by DSNAME,
since if the data set is allocated multiple times freeing all
the DDNAMEs may be an unintended consequence.  I understand that
various IBM software has suffered from this defect; I don't
know any current examples.  A utility shouldn't FREE anything
it didn't ALLOCATE; it shouldn't leave anything ALLOCATEd that
was FREEd before it was called.

(But I recognize the OP asked how to unallocate a Dataset, not
a DDNAME.)

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Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all.

Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:TSO FREE 
DATASET('your.dataset.name')

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Hello all,

I haven't had to do anything like this for a while but can anyone tell me
how I can unallocate at dataset in ISPF option 6.

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SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
In the process of upgrading SMP/E to V3R3 the apply check ran without any 
issues, RC=0.
 
Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with a 
failure on a GIM dataset which ran out of directory blocks.
 
What would be the best way to back things out to prior to running the apply 
step.
 
Thanks.
 

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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
What GIM data set did it run out of directory blocks on?  If it was
one of the new target libraries (you are applying to new libraries
aren't you?), then just fix it and re-run the apply.


Don Imbriale

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In the process of upgrading SMP/E to V3R3 the apply check ran without
any issues,
RC=0.

Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with
a failure on a
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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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Running  the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with a 
failure on a  GIM dataset which ran out of directory blocks.

What would be the best  way to back things out to prior to running the apply  
step.





Guess I still believe in versioning and not applying to a running
system. I'd copy/rename the GIM.SGIM/AGIM to GIM.V3R3.SGIM/AGIM,
change the DDDEFs and rerun. Mostly, the E37's are pre-copy
so nothing was loaded before the  Abend. 

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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Richards.Bob
It depends.

Did anything APPLY?

If not, increase the directory blocks and do an APPLY REDO.

If stuff did APPLY and you are unsure if it APPLIED correctly, do a RESTORE.

Bob 

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issues, RC=0.
 
Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with a 
failure on a GIM dataset which ran out of directory blocks.
 
What would be the best way to back things out to prior to running the apply 
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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread McKown, John
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 In the process of upgrading SMP/E to V3R3 the apply check ran 
 without any issues, RC=0.
  
 Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things 
 starting with a failure on a GIM dataset which ran out of 
 directory blocks.
  
 What would be the best way to back things out to prior to 
 running the apply step.
  
 Thanks.

YOU UPDATED A RUNNING SYSTEM?!?

You did take backups before starting, right? 
Restore from them. Note - be careful to only restore SMP/E
modules or you are likely to be SOL as your z/OS system dies a terrible
death (maybe).

No? You do have another set of volumes from which to copy the updated
modules, right? 
Copy the modules, again being careful.

No? You do have a tape backup of your system datasets?
Restore them to different names and copy the SMP/E modules.

===

What I always do is run SMP/E on my production system, but update my
sandbox system's datasets. If I then need to do some SMP/E work on
production using the new version/maintenance, I STEPLIB to the sandbox
system's libraries. You could possibly do this here. I.e. STEPLIB to the
sandbox SYS1.LINKLIB and redo the APPLY. BE AFRAID! BE VERY, VERY
AFRAID! Updating a running system is DANGEROUS.


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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Howard Rifkind wrote:


In the process of upgrading SMP/E to V3R3 the apply check ran without any 
issues, RC=0.

Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with a 
failure on a GIM dataset which ran out of directory blocks.

What would be the best way to back things out to prior to running the apply 
step.
 



Simply rename the too-small library, allocate a new, larger version and 
copy the entire contents using IEBCOPY (use COPYMOD for modules). Then 
re-run the APPLY.


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Re: Quiescing VSAM RLS data sets

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Thomen
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 The callable service IGWARLS allows an application program to query the
 quiesce state of a VSAM RLS file. Is there a similar callable service
(maybe the
 one CICS uses) to issue a quiesce/unquiesce command to SMSVSAM for a VSAM
RLS
 data set?

V SMS,SMSVSAM,SPHERE(spherename),QUIESCE
V SMS,SMSVSAM,SPHERE(spherename),ENABLE

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Newbie doubt about Supervised State

2005-07-21 Thread De La Fuente Seivane, Victor
Hello all!
As I write in the subject, I'm just a newbie. I'm sure what I'm going to ask
is obvious, but here I go...
 
I have a PL/I program trying to work with ICSF, and using one of the
functions (I don't remember which one) and I reached Return Code 8; Reason
Code 2068. It means I must execute the program in supervisor state or key 0.
 
What can I do to execute my program in Supervisor state?
Thanks all!
 
Best regards!
 Víctor de la Fuente Seivane
 

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Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/21/2005 12:00:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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current  commercial PC game software, the additional development effort
required to  replicate all of the graphic/sound, etc functions of WinXP would
be  astronomical.




Guess the argument is the chipset is so robust, don't want the
bloat of XP interfering with splaterring of aliens or monsters
or police officers and hearing the lamentations of the vanquished.
 
Goes way back to Woz and PACMAN.. 

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Re: Using WSED for HLASM development

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Hi Beate!

 You might consider Systems/ASM on your workstation as well.  It's HLASM
 compatible and the assemblies and source all stay on your PC.

 Doing this, you can take advantage of many of the wonderful PC-based
 development environments.

 See http://www.dignus.com/dasm/  for more information.

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Hi folks,
 
we are considering using WSED for our (heavily HLASM-based) development. We have looked into the documentation etc. but we would like to hear from any experiences with the product.
 
Especially, the following questions have arised:

1. Is HLASM really a focus of WSED ? All examples e.g. in the self-learning 
course are for COBOL or PL/1...
2. How about the integration of other, development-oriented tools, e.g. SCLM ?
3. What are the advantages from a developers point of view ? How well do the 
two platforms really integrate (development on PC, assembly / test on 
mainframe, e.g. under ISPF) ?
 
All input highly appreciated - thanks,

Beate




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Migration to a new processor 2086

2005-07-21 Thread John Mattson
Just did this. Be sure to install the z890 exploitation feature if 
not already at zOS1.4+.  New OSA devices OSA/E rather than OSA/2 which are 
VERY different: require VTAM LU's called TRLE which must be active. Double 
check the Memory allocations in the HMC to make sure they are what you 
intend for all Lpars. 

From:D-Arbigny Pierre-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Migration to a new processor 2086
Hello,
I still migrating a Multiprise 3000 to a 2086 (Z890 Family).
Does someone have bad experiences during IPL : problem with memery, 
couple dataset, etc
Any infos or advises could help me.
Best regards

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Re: Newbie doubt about Supervised State

2005-07-21 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 7/21/2005 1:08:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have a  PL/I program trying to work with ICSF, and using one of the
functions (I  don't remember which one) and I reached Return Code 8; Reason
Code 2068. It  means I must execute the program in supervisor state or key 0.

What can  I do to execute my program in Supervisor state?




At the minimum, you must execute the Assembler language MODESET macro with  
operands MODE=SUP (recommended) or KEY=ZERO (not recommended) before you  
invoke the function that is failing, linkedit/bind your program into an  
authorized 
library (APF list), and linkedit/bind it with the option AC=1.   There may be 
several other things necessary, depending on how you are executing  the PL/I 
program (batch job JCL, TSO command, etc.) and your data center's  security 
systems.  Adding a program into an authorized library is something  that most 
data centers do not let just anyone do.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: Newbie doubt about Supervised State

2005-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
Victor, the best answer is *probably* that you should try to find
another way to accomplish whatever task that you want to accomplish - in
other words, without using reserved functions.

The legendary reliability and integrity of z/OS is in part due to the
functions that are reserved for supervisory programs, and the reluctance
of system administrators to grant supervisory authority - particularly
to a newbie. Nothing personal - it's just easy for a beginner to make
an honest mistake that might cost an IPL (or a ding on your company's
annual audit).

If you still think that you absolutely need this particular function,
you will need to discuss it with your management and your security
folks. IBM-MAIN can help you with the technical details.

Charles



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Hello all!
As I write in the subject, I'm just a newbie. I'm sure what I'm going to
ask is obvious, but here I go...
 
I have a PL/I program trying to work with ICSF, and using one of the
functions (I don't remember which one) and I reached Return Code 8;
Reason Code 2068. It means I must execute the program in supervisor
state or key 0.
 
What can I do to execute my program in Supervisor state?

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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas Conley
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From: Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.


In the process of upgrading SMP/E to V3R3 the apply check ran without any 
issues, RC=0.


Running the apply it blasted the day lights out of things starting with a 
failure on a GIM dataset which ran out of directory blocks.


What would be the best way to back things out to prior to running the 
apply step.




Howard,

Unless you took a backup of your ENTIRE target environment just prior to the 
APPLY, your best bet is to fix the directory blocks and rerun the APPLY. 
SMP/E will do just fine if you fix the datasets and go forward.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-21 Thread Leonard Woren
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 06:43:32PM -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
 But the Workplace Shell was an interesting hack, 
 
 Yes! I'd love to see an equivalent in Linux.

My recollection and understanding is (was?) that when most people ask
for IBM to open-source OS/2, it's the WPS that they want in order to
port just that to Linux.  If WPS gets ported to Linux, why would 
anybody care that OS/2 is dead?  [1]

So a good question would be does the WPS by itself have IP that IBM
would not be able to open-source?


[1] I discovered that OS/2 was dead when one of my SCSI HDs failed 
and a friend suggested Forget SCSI, just get a big IDE disk to
replace all your SCSI disks.  Turns out that OS/2 can't be installed
on IDE disks  4 GB.  And don't bother to tell me about alternate
drivers and hacks and whatever.  I wasted days on them.  They don't
work.  I bought a big SCSI disk for a ridiculous amount of money and
immediately committed myself to abandoning my once-beloved OS/2 system.
I've powered it up for a total of maybe 2 hours in the last 3 years.

Footnote to the footnote.  I just read a lot of the stuff on 
ecomstation.com .  It's pretty funny... the whole thing is an argument
for why ECS is NOT a viable option in today's world.  And BTW, after
using NT4 and XP for years, I still miss OS/2 and hate Winblows.


/Leonard

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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread john gilmore

Edward E. Jaffe writes:

Simply rename the too-small library, allocate a new, larger version and 
copy the entire contents using IEBCOPY (use COPYMOD for modules). Then 
re-run the APPLY.


This is good generic advice.  Let me, however, add to it the specific 
instruction not only to give this PDS more space but more directory blocks 
too.


John Gilmore
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Re: Using WSED for HLASM development

2005-07-21 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:51:59 +0200, Beate Kawelke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SYSTEMS.COM wrote:

cross-posted to IBM-MAIN and ASSEMBLER-LIST

Hi folks,

we are considering using WSED for our (heavily HLASM-based) development.
We have looked into the documentation etc. but we would like to hear from
any experiences with the product.

Especially, the following questions have arised:
1. Is HLASM really a focus of WSED ? All examples e.g. in the self-
learning course are for COBOL or PL/1...
2. How about the integration of other, development-oriented tools, e.g.
SCLM ?
3. What are the advantages from a developers point of view ? How well do
the two platforms really integrate (development on PC, assembly / test on
mainframe, e.g. under ISPF) ?

I have not used WSED, but I do use Eclipse with various Open Source  low
cost plugins for Java Development. Keep in mind that WSED is Eclipse with
IBM added plugins. The doc I see on WSED does not mention any special
support for HLASM. You might want to evaluate plain old Eclipse (with
plugins for your requirements - I use MyEclipse for J2EE) against WSED
features.

-Rob

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Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks everyone.  I backup all the datasets that had an SMPE HLQ but I didn't 
know anything about datasets with an HLQ of GIM.  
 
I did this on my test lpar so I can copy restore most everything and and the 
GIM datasets I can get off of the production Lpar.
 


john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Edward E. Jaffe writes:

Simply rename the too-small library, allocate a new, larger version and 
copy the entire contents using IEBCOPY (use COPYMOD for modules). Then 
re-run the APPLY.

This is good generic advice. Let me, however, add to it the specific 
instruction not only to give this PDS more space but more directory blocks 
too.

John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721
USA

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