Re: Structure of VVDS

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Cartwright
On Mon, 22 May 2006 22:37:30 +, Manuel Tabares Solórzano 
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  Hello List..I need the structure (data areas) of VVDS. Anyone can give me
?


I don't think IBM provide a Programming Interface for the VVDS. Some people 
have figured out bits of it. Take a look at the MAPDISK program in file 172 
of the CBT tape (http://cbttape.org/) which does some VVDS processing. 
Other entries on the CBT tape may provide further information - check the 
documentation in file 001.

DC

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Betr.: CA-7 question: trigger job on UNIX file creation?

2006-05-23 Thread G. van Arnhem
When you specify the DEBUG parameter on the FTPDATA file, BPX024I messages 
will be sent to the syslog for FTP processes. 
You can take action on these messages with an automation product. 
We're doing this for a long period, and works fine. 

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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-23 Thread Christian Blesa
Hello Dave,

thanks for your quickly reponse!

On Mon, 22 May 2006 15:18:45 -0500, Dave Betten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Finger checked before so not sure if this got sent already.

I looked at your SMFPRMxx parms and they appear ok.  Type 16 is not in
your NOTYPE list for STC.  But I'm still a little unclear as to what your
situation is.

Did you just implement your own initialization (ICEIEXIT) and termination
(ICETEXIT) routines and now you only get SMF records for STCs?


I have had a look at our usermods and I have only seen ICEIEXIT implemented 
to limit hiperspace usage. So, the lines of this exit doesn't seems to be 
modified to get only smf records for jobs. I could sent you this exit to 
revise it.


Did you just modify your exits and now you only get SMF records for STCs?

Are you not using any exits and even with SMF=YES as the installation
default, you're still not getting any records?

Are you sure there are started tasks executing sorts?  If so, are they jcl
invoked sorts or program invoked?

I don't know how about ChageAccumulation works but jcl not shows program 
invoked directly:


//DBAA0001 PROC SOUT=*   
//*JCL FOR HP CHANGE ACCUMULATION (HPCAJCL). 
//*  
//***
//* 
//* STC STARTED AND CONTROLLED BY CHANGE ACCUMULATION.
//*  
//** 
//CA1  EXEC PGM=HPCADRI1,PARM='CORE=2048000,DBRC=Y', 
// REGION=0K,PERFORM=6   
//STEPLIB  DD   DSN=IMSEPPA.RESLIB,DISP=SHR,DCB=BLKSIZE=32760
// DD  DISP=SHR, 
// DSN=TARGET.IMSCA130.SHPCLMD0  
// DD   DSN=IMSEPPA.DINALOCS,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSUDUMP DD   SYSOUT=2,OUTLIM=99,HOLD=YES  
//IMS  DD   DSN=IMSEPP.DBDLIB,DISP=SHR   
//SYSOUT   DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SORTLIB  DD   DSN=SYS1.SORTLIB,DISP=SHR
//DFSUCUMO DD   DUMMY,DCB=BLKSIZE=100
//DFSUCUMN DD   DSN=dsname1,
// UNIT=(SYSALLDA),  
// SPACE=(CYL,(350,110),RLSE),   
//*DCB=(MODEL,BUFNO=10), 
// DISP=
(NEW,CATLG,DELETE)  
   
//*+++ --- ++
//ICBUCUMN DD   DSN=dsname2,
// UNIT=(SYSALLDA),   
// SPACE=(CYL,(350,110),RLSE),
//*DCB=(MODEL,BUFNO=10),  
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE)
//DFSUDD1  DD   DUMMY 
//*   
//DFSULOG  DD  DSN=log1,  
// UNIT=SYSALLDA, 
// VOL=SER=(4W2859),  
// DCB=RECFM=VBS, 
// DISP=SHR   
// DD  DSN=log2,  
// UNIT=SYSALLDA, 
// VOL=SER=(AW4913),  
// DCB=RECFM=VBS, 
// DISP=SHR   
// DD  DSN=log3,  
// UNIT=SYSALLDA, 
// VOL=SER=(GW2279),  
// DCB=RECFM=VBS, 
// DISP=SHR   
// DD  DSN=log4,  
// UNIT=SYSALLDA, 
// VOL=SER=(FW5777),  
// DCB=RECFM=VBS, 
// DISP=SHR   
//HPCPRINT DD  SYSOUT=SOUT   


I have executed a job (codified with a jobnmame = stcname condition) to 
compare the reports of two libs:

 lib 1) working with lib created by DFSORT exit (ICETEXIT??)
 lib 2) working with lib that only contains SMF16 records

and the report shows:

 lib 1) observations ok
 lib 2) observations nok


I could also sent you this files to revise it.

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IEFSCHAS increases mips consumption

2006-05-23 Thread Christian Blesa
Hello,

last thursday I have detected an increase in mips consumption by IEFSCHAS, 
XCFAS and GRS. I have revised all system changes and any seems to be 
relationated with this strange behaviour. Who could be the bad boy?


Thanks

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Re: Password Complexity

2006-05-23 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
I can't quote the Latin (I took French) but the famous Latin quote
translates to something like who shall guard those selfsame guardians,
i.e., who is watching the security administrator?  


quis custodiet ipsos custodes

Cheers,

Jantje.

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fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread J Ellis
We are going to have a 2094-604- 4 engines at approx 435mips per engine 
and  a 2064-2C9- 9 engines at approx 232mips per engine in our plex. Three 
lpars on the 2094 and two on the 2064. Workload is CICS/DB2/IMS/MQ with 
lots of DDF mixed in during the day as well as user critical batch that 
also runs during the online day, heavy batch at night. The concern is 
trying to adjust WLM for the different hardware, i.e. a velocity of 30 on 
the 2094 means something different than velocity 30 on the 2064 within the 
same plex, correct ? Has anyone had any experience with this type of 
configuration ?

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Re: OSA-ICC h/w s/w

2006-05-23 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
 
 There is no clear best choice for a console emulator, although
 attachmate,and IBM's eNet Personal Comm emulator seem to be the most widely
 used with others like tn3270plus and Reflection (no longer available as this
 name) seem to be able to work well also.
 
 The speed of the PC that you use is not a big factor so long as it's at
 least a Pentium 3 or higher.  It's more important to have a reliable network
 card or built-in NIC interface on the motherboard as a reliable link to the
 ICC.  You can scrimp on most everything else in the PC.  You might want to
 also remove all of the games on the PC if it's a older/slower model, so that
 the operators don't spend more time doing a lot of game playing.  
 
 I normally would say something like if you can spend the bucks on the
 mainframe you can afford the few hundred for a reliable PC, but I have come
 to realize that data centers don't always work that way.
 

We use HP thin clients with flash memory and no disk.
They run XPembedded, and have no games. g
And they are nice and small, they stand along side or 
even behind the thin screen display.

I set them up in admin mode, and the ops just have to 
turn them on and they go right into the emulation.

We use Ericom PowerTerm, because it is locally (Israel)
produced and has good support for Hebrew. 

Ours are also on a dedicated 10.0 network, and I have
a point in my office connected to the same switch, so 
that I am not totally dependant on a VTAM connection.

Shimon

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Re: VRECOV for newbies

2006-05-23 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Thanks Brian, I have been hoping that this would 
be a friendly list. :-)

The VRECOV was on CBT 228 at:
http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT228.zip

But while I am a real newbie, we have two consultants 
working with us here who also had trouble with the CLIST, 
and one of them went to a friend and got us a different script.
It worked first time, very easily. (And my first question to the
consultant was So why doesn't your friend put THIS one
on the CBT?!).

So, with thanks to you and John Kalinich for your help, 
I guess there is really no more need to persue a solution
to this particular problem.

Shalom,
Shimon

On 22 May 2006 at 23:21, Brian Westerman wrote:

 Don't ever be afraid to ask questions.  We have all had them in the past.  
 
 What CBT file did you get the VRECOV clist from?
 
 Brian
 

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The concern is trying to adjust WLM for the different hardware, i.e. a 
velocity of 30 on the 2094 means something different than velocity 30 on the 
2064 within the same plex, correct ?

In theory, no.
The only differences would be CPU service, and that's supposed to be normalised 
by using service units.

I have mixed 9672's and z/900's in the same SYSPLEX with no ill effects (a long 
time ago).

-
-teD

300,000 Kilometres per Second
Not only is it a good idea!
It's the LAW!!!  

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Kevin Pintar
Steve,

Not being an expert in this area, I apologize for possibly wasting your
time, but I was hoping to seed your exploration with the information I
was given as a starting point.

It seems as though the file.encoding system property is related to the
file system you are using (HFS, z/FS).  

It very well could be that there is an esoteric property related to the
actual mount point you are using... heck I don't know.

Here is a small java program I wrote to see what my file.encoding system
property was:

import java.io.*;
public class Jtest   
{
  public static void main(String args[]) 
  {  
System.out.println(file.encoding is
 + System.getProperty(file.encoding)); 
  }  
}

In my case, the result was: 
file.encoding is Cp1047

Cp1047 is EBCDIC Latin-1 (If I'm not mistaken).

I'm curious if yours says the same thing.  It may not be a Java setting
that is causing your problem but a file system attribute somewhere.

Just trying to help,
Kevin

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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
This was not hard to find and interesting Google condition white.

http://martialarts.jameshom.com/library/weekly/aa071000.htm

http://www.albany.edu/ssw/projectsafe/awareness.html

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m...

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  http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/21/D8HODD7G0.html
 
  The report by the Justice Department agency found that 62 percent 
  of people in jails have not been convicted, meaning many of them are

  awaiting trial.
 
  A lot of us are frightened to go to the USA these days.
  Baltimore or anywhere else.

 Well, we gotta be afraid of terrorists, and we gotta be afraid of our 
 neighbors, and we gotta be afraid of our friends, and we gotta be 
 afraid of bogeymen hiding behind trees, and we gotta be afraid of 
 dust bunnies under our beds, and we gotta be afraid

Enough already  Most people walk around in condition white (oh,
nothing will ever happen to me), when they should be in condition
yellow.
If you're interested in the color code let me know.  Criminals can
tell the ones that are clueless and those are the ones they attack.

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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 08:01 -0400, Knutson, Sam wrote:

 This was not hard to find and interesting Google condition white.

Interesting ...
In all the years of (various) martial arts I took, I never heard of such
a colour regime.

Maybe it's an American thing.
Maybe we were expected to be sufficiently aware so as no to need to be
told.

As I said, interesting (by omission).

Shane ...

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Re: ftp and kerberos

2006-05-23 Thread David Huysmans
We tried SSL/TLS and it seems to work like we wanted.
Thanks to Walt and the other listers that responded for pointing us in the 
right direction.

David Huysmans 


On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:19:47 -0400, Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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On 5/18/2006 9:05 AM, David Huysmans wrote:
 we want to send data between 2 different MVS sysplexes. We’re planning to
 use FTP as the protocol for the datatransfer.
 The only problem we have with this is the confidentiality of the 
passwords
 we have to use to set up the communication.
 The user(s) we will use for the FTP needs to have access to a lot of
 production data, so the impact when the password is revealed, could be 
huge.


You could do that with an SSL/TLS session between your z/OS FTP client
and your z/OS server, with client authentication based on digital
certificates.  The server can accept the client's certificate, map it to
a user ID, and complete the authentication without the need to flow a
password.

   Walt Farrell, CISSP
   z/OS Security Design, IBM

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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread Richard Pinion
If going to New Orleans, BOYB (Bring Your Own Boat)!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/22/2006 5:57 PM 
Eric and I must be on the same budget constraints. Share SFO was
certainly in an interesting neighbourhood. However, you didn't have to
stray too far from the beach area in Long Beach to feel decidedly
uncomfortable either.
Last time I holidayed in New Orleans, getting lost heading back to your
little French hotel wasn't recommended.

It's the same everywhere - the locals know where not to go (or be
careful), the visitors need to be sensible.
When I go to conference (anywhere) I try to stay in-house,and go out
(in need) with a group. Not the cheapest option, but allows me the
luxury of less worry.

Shane ...

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STORAGE OBTAIN/RELEASE with ALET=1?

2006-05-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I guess I could experiment, but I was wondering if there is a clear IBM
statement as to whether a STORAGE macro can get storage in the current
secondary address space using ALET=1?

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Re: Betr.: CA-7 question: trigger job on UNIX file creation?

2006-05-23 Thread McKown, John
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 When you specify the DEBUG parameter on the FTPDATA file, 
 BPX024I messages 
 will be sent to the syslog for FTP processes. 
 You can take action on these messages with an automation product. 
 We're doing this for a long period, and works fine. 
 
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Re: Sysplex TSO logon behaviour

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
I ignored this yesteday thinking someone would catch this.

Since you are in a Sysplex, you do not need to IPL to change the GRS RNLs. 
As long as all systems are communicating using XCF, or GRS is in a STAR
configuration, you can just change the RNL member, then issue a SET
GRSRNL=xx command.

Just make sure that all IEASYSxx GRSRNL parms are set to use the new one at
IPL time.

On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:39:48 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Mon, 22 May 2006 09:58:30 -0500, Alan C. Field
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have two separate parallel sysplexes. We logon to TSO on one image of
each sysplex.

We try to logon to a second image. On one sysplex we get this:

IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId xxx already logged on to system SYS1
IKJ56400A ENTER LOGON OR LOGOFF-

On the other sysplex the logon proceeds until it fails trying to allocate
the ISPF profile
dataset. We expect both systems to behave this way.

Both systems are z/OS 1.6. No JES exits are in use on either system.

It appears as if SYS1 is observing the pre z/OS 1.4 rules for monitoring
duplicate TSO logons.

What did we not do to SYS1 that we should have?

Thanks,

Alan

This is caused by propegating the SYSIKJUA QNAME via
GRS / MIM (MII) - $SNGLTSO on my web site.

Mark

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Kirk Wolf

Steve,

Java System properties can be set on the java command line:

java -Dfile.encoding=iso8859-1 HelloWorld

I'm sorry, but I've lost track of exactly what you are trying to do.
Can you post some sample code / commands to reproduce your problem?

A canonical example (from a z/OS shell):

$ cat HelloWorld.java
public class HelloWorld {
public static void main(String[] args) {
 System.out.println(Hello World);
}
}

$ javac HelloWorld.java
$ java HelloWorld
Hello World
$

Does this work for you?

Kirk

Steve Comstock wrote:


Kevin Pintar wrote:


Steve,
Talking to a few fellows who have been working with Java on the
mainframe, they suggested looking at the value of 'file.encoding' system
property.




And where would I expect to find that? In /usr/lpp/java/J1.4/bin
there is a java.properties file, but it does not have a 'file.encoding'
string anywhere I could find.



Here is a page that has some code snippets and a discussion that may
help.

http://java.sun.com/developer/JDCTechTips/2003/tt0110.html



Well, interesting, but not helpful in telling me where
and how to change my ecoding. I think that's what I need.

Kind regards,

-Steve

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Re: Sysplex TSO logon behaviour

2006-05-23 Thread Alan C. Field
Thanks Matthew. 

We tried the SET GRSRNL but the change won't complete as long
as there are TSO users logged on. 

SYSIKJUA is the resource we're trying to change, hence the IPL (it's the 
development 
system) will be the easiest way. 

Mark Z -  thanks - I removed SYSIKJUA from the RNL because I was 
experimenting with 
the multi-logon as described by you. 

Alan 





I ignored this yesteday thinking someone would catch this.

Since you are in a Sysplex, you do not need to IPL to change the GRS RNLs. 

As long as all systems are communicating using XCF, or GRS is in a STAR
configuration, you can just change the RNL member, then issue a SET
GRSRNL=xx command.

Just make sure that all IEASYSxx GRSRNL parms are set to use the new one 
at
IPL time.



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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock

Kevin Pintar wrote:

Steve,

Not being an expert in this area, I apologize for possibly wasting your
time, but I was hoping to seed your exploration with the information I
was given as a starting point.

It seems as though the file.encoding system property is related to the
file system you are using (HFS, z/FS).  


It very well could be that there is an esoteric property related to the
actual mount point you are using... heck I don't know.

Here is a small java program I wrote to see what my file.encoding system
property was:

import java.io.*;
public class Jtest   
{
  public static void main(String args[]) 
  {  
System.out.println(file.encoding is
 + System.getProperty(file.encoding)); 
  }  
}

In my case, the result was: 
file.encoding is Cp1047


Cp1047 is EBCDIC Latin-1 (If I'm not mistaken).

I'm curious if yours says the same thing.  It may not be a Java setting
that is causing your problem but a file system attribute somewhere.

Just trying to help,
Kevin


Doesn't run. I compiled it OK, but when I run, same set of messages:


Jtest.class 5: FSUM7343 cannot open ÈëÈÊÁ/_--- for output: EDC5129I No 
such file or directory.


Jtest.class 5: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/%/ for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.


Jtest.class 5: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/Ñ? for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.



Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock

Kirk Wolf wrote:

Steve,

Java System properties can be set on the java command line:

java -Dfile.encoding=iso8859-1 HelloWorld

I'm sorry, but I've lost track of exactly what you are trying to do.
Can you post some sample code / commands to reproduce your problem?

A canonical example (from a z/OS shell):

$ cat HelloWorld.java
public class HelloWorld {
public static void main(String[] args) {
 System.out.println(Hello World);
}
}

$ javac HelloWorld.java
$ java HelloWorld
Hello World
$

Does this work for you?

Kirk


OK, from the beginning.

File Howdy.java --- :

/**
* Java sample
* @version 1.1 05/24/2001
* @author Steve Comstock
*/
public class Howdy
{
  public static void main(String[] args)
  {
   System.out.println(Hello, Steve, Ha Ha to Java!);
  } // end main method
} // end of class Howdy


The compile (no diagnostics) --- :

javac Howdy.java


The execution --- :

Howdy.class
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/Ñ? for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ÈëÈÊÁ/_--- for output: EDC5129I No 
such file or directory.
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/%/ for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.



Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock

[re-send with correct Reply-to]
Kirk Wolf wrote:

Steve,

Java System properties can be set on the java command line:

java -Dfile.encoding=iso8859-1 HelloWorld

I'm sorry, but I've lost track of exactly what you are trying to do.
Can you post some sample code / commands to reproduce your problem?

A canonical example (from a z/OS shell):

$ cat HelloWorld.java
public class HelloWorld {
public static void main(String[] args) {
 System.out.println(Hello World);
}
}

$ javac HelloWorld.java
$ java HelloWorld
Hello World
$

Does this work for you?

Kirk


OK, from the beginning.

File Howdy.java --- :

/**
* Java sample
* @version 1.1 05/24/2001
* @author Steve Comstock
*/
public class Howdy
{
  public static void main(String[] args)
  {
   System.out.println(Hello, Steve, Ha Ha to Java!);
  } // end main method
} // end of class Howdy


The compile (no diagnostics) --- :

javac Howdy.java


The execution --- :

Howdy.class
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/Ñ? for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ÈëÈÊÁ/_--- for output: EDC5129I No 
such file or directory.
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/%/ for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.



Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 08:52 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

 I have been in shops with 
 this type of mixture, but it can be a challenge for workloads that
 are set up to use velocity goals in a mixed environment.  Sometimes 
 I've had to go against the single image concept of sysplex and
 set up different goals by lpar where I could.  

Not just velocity goals.
WLM in a non-homogeneous sysplex is a basket case. Wasn't designed for
it, and can't handle the skewing effect if service classes are shared
across CECs that have (markedly) differing engine sizes.

Taxing on the performance analysis team to say the least.
Suck-it-and-see is probably the best (only) advice. Each of us knows our
own workloads/environments like no-one else can.

Shane ...

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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread Jon Brock
Beats me.  I'm an American and I've never heard of it either.

Jon



snip
Interesting ...
In all the years of (various) martial arts I took, I never heard of such
a colour regime.

Maybe it's an American thing.
Maybe we were expected to be sufficiently aware so as no to need to be
told.
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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread David Cole

At 5/23/2006 08:28 AM, you wrote:
Share SFO was certainly in an interesting neighbourhood. However, 
you didn't have to stray too far from the beach area in Long Beach 
to feel decidedly uncomfortable either. Last time I holidayed in New 
Orleans, getting lost heading back to your little French hotel 
wasn't recommended.


It's the same everywhere - the locals know where not to go (or be 
careful), the visitors need to be sensible. When I go to conference 
(anywhere) I try to stay in-house,and go out (in need) with a 
group. Not the cheapest option, but allows me the luxury of less worry.


Shane ...


It's one thing to have to be careful about local criminals. It's 
another when you have to watch our for local cops!



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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:31:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If going  to New Orleans, BOYB (Bring Your Own Boat)!



Any word on Baton Rouge? Going to a wedding Sat. Groom's sister was an E.R.  
Doctor at Charity Hospital in N.O. Fortunately they told her to go home the  
day before Katrina hit. They didn't call her back for several months. Tried to  
talk about it at Christmas but they were still traumatized. Bride's folks and 
 grandparents all moved to Baton Rouge

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread John Tergerson
Steve,

Might a profile entry help?

_BPXK_AUTOCVT=ON; export _BPXK_AUTOCVT

John

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Re: z900 model conversions

2006-05-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
We were hoping to downgrade our z900 from a 105 to 104
in January of 2007.  IBM has told us that the announcement
[] means we have to have the conversion complete by
Oct 2, 2006, not just the purchase.  Has anyone
encountered a different opinion?  I had assumed we could
buy the downgrade and install it at a later time. Has
anyone looked at  buying an upgrade for installation after
10/2/2006?  Any advice?

In theory you could buy a used z900 Model 104 on the secondary market then 
trade in your 105 if you really wanted to stay in the family. You'd have 
to locate a -104 at the time you need it, but I suppose it's possible. But 
then you'd have to do a physical migration which would take a little work 
effort.

I agree that the System z9 (probably BC) would be worth looking into. It 
has much more precise capacity settings than the z900, and you can add 
some speedy and affordable IFLs, zAAPs, and/or zIIPs. (At least three 
engines are reserved for that purpose.) It also has 19% fewer MSUs for the 
same average transactional throughput as your z900. In other words, for 
the same capacity you'll have lower software charges, at least for IBM 
software. It's very roughly like getting z900-105 performance for close to 
the monthly software charges of a z900-104. (Very roughly. Your mileage 
may vary.)

The z9 BC is also about half the physical footprint of the z900, and I 
think it uses less electricity.

As to why this z900 situation is as it is, it might have something to do 
with new European environmental rules. In fact, after a certain date IBM 
cannot ship any new pre-z9 mainframes to most of Europe. The other 
possible reason is that it no longer makes sense (given total costs) to 
change an engine configuration on a z900, at least in the upward 
direction. The newer models have significantly lower ownership costs.

- - - - -
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Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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Re: SHARE in Baltimore??!?!?! (The dark side...)

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/23/2006 9:27:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

B.R. is  high and dry, but the population has been greatly increased.  With 
that  comes 



I might have an out. Mom's going to cardiologist for a sonogram..
anyway thanks for the update. 

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Birger Heede

IIRC

For the execution you need:

java hello

and not just 'hello.class' (which is not executable)

Birger Heede
IBM SWG


Steve Comstock wrote:

Kevin Pintar wrote:

Steve,

Not being an expert in this area, I apologize for possibly wasting your
time, but I was hoping to seed your exploration with the information I
was given as a starting point.

It seems as though the file.encoding system property is related to the
file system you are using (HFS, z/FS). 
It very well could be that there is an esoteric property related to the

actual mount point you are using... heck I don't know.

Here is a small java program I wrote to see what my file.encoding system
property was:

import java.io.*;public class 
Jtest   
{  public static void 
main(String args[])   
{  
System.out.println(file.encoding is + 
System.getProperty(file.encoding));   
}  
}   
In my case, the result was: file.encoding is Cp1047


Cp1047 is EBCDIC Latin-1 (If I'm not mistaken).

I'm curious if yours says the same thing.  It may not be a Java setting
that is causing your problem but a file system attribute somewhere.

Just trying to help,
Kevin


Doesn't run. I compiled it OK, but when I run, same set of messages:


Jtest.class 5: FSUM7343 cannot open ÈëÈÊÁ/_--- for output: EDC5129I No 
such file or directory.


Jtest.class 5: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/%/ for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.


Jtest.class 5: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/Ñ? for input: EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.



Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:45 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness 
 I'm encountering
 

snip

 OK, from the beginning.
 
 File Howdy.java --- :
 
 /**
 * Java sample
 * @version 1.1 05/24/2001
 * @author Steve Comstock
 */
 public class Howdy
 {
public static void main(String[] args)
{
 System.out.println(Hello, Steve, Ha Ha to Java!);
} // end main method
 } // end of class Howdy
 
 
 The compile (no diagnostics) --- :
 
 javac Howdy.java
 
 
 The execution --- :
 
 Howdy.class
 Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/Ñ? for input: 
 EDC5129I No such 
 file or directory.
 Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ÈëÈÊÁ/_--- for output: 
 EDC5129I No 
 such file or directory.
 Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/%/ for input: 
 EDC5129I No such 
 file or directory.
 
 
 Kind regards,
 
 -Steve Comstock

I tried your code, cut-n-paste using ISHELL. I then compiled it using javac 
from IBM J1.3. Initial test is OK. I did the same using J1.4 with the same 
results.

But I can duplicate your output. It appears you are entering the command:

Howdy.class

at the prompt. True? If so that is the problem. Try:

java Howdy

instead. I'm not too sure how the shell is interpreting Howdy.class, but that 
is NOT a executable file, regardless of the fact that the eXecute bit is on 
in the directory entry!

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock

McKown, John wrote:

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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I'm encountering





snip


OK, from the beginning.

File Howdy.java --- :

/**
* Java sample
* @version 1.1 05/24/2001
* @author Steve Comstock
*/
public class Howdy
{
  public static void main(String[] args)
  {
   System.out.println(Hello, Steve, Ha Ha to Java!);
  } // end main method
} // end of class Howdy


The compile (no diagnostics) --- :

javac Howdy.java


The execution --- :

Howdy.class
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/Ñ? for input: 
EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ÈëÈÊÁ/_--- for output: 
EDC5129I No 
such file or directory.
Howdy.class 4: FSUM7343 cannot open ¦/Î/%/ for input: 
EDC5129I No such 
file or directory.



Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock



I tried your code, cut-n-paste using ISHELL. I then compiled it using javac 
from IBM J1.3. Initial test is OK. I did the same using J1.4 with the same 
results.

But I can duplicate your output. It appears you are entering the command:

Howdy.class

at the prompt. True? If so that is the problem. Try:

java Howdy

instead. I'm not too sure how the shell is interpreting Howdy.class, but that is NOT a 
executable file, regardless of the fact that the eXecute bit is on in the directory 
entry!

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Well, that did it!

I knew it would be something simple.

I swear I could run Java classes without saying 'java'
but it must be the ol' memory failure again.

Thanks all.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-23 Thread Jon Brock
It might also depend on your particular environment (whether you formerly ran 
in some sort of IDE you are no longer in, for instance).  I think I recall that 
the java class-name format is standard, though.

Jon


snip
Well, that did it!

I knew it would be something simple.

I swear I could run Java classes without saying 'java'
but it must be the ol' memory failure again.
/snip

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
but it can be a challenge for workloads that
are set up to use velocity goals in a mixed environment.  Sometimes I've had to 
go against the single image concept of sysplex and set up different goals by 
lpar where I could. 

That does go against the intent of WLM, but ever since IBM allowed goals by 
SYSID, the architecture has been broken, in my mind (or what I laughingly call 
mine).

But, I've found, that ever since we included I/O in the velocity equation, that 
the CPU differences haven't had a big impact.

Of course, I have always used transaction goals where I can.

-
-teD

300,000 Kilometres per Second
Not only is it a good idea!
It's the LAW!!!  

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Re: STORAGE OBTAIN/RELEASE with ALET=1?

2006-05-23 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/23/2006 
08:39:46 AM:

 I guess I could experiment, but I was wondering if there is a clear IBM
 statement as to whether a STORAGE macro can get storage in the current
 secondary address space using ALET=1?

  Yes, it can.
 
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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Samson

Jerry,

Now would be a good time to move to response time goals for CICS (before 
the upgrade). In the mixed environment, the achieved velocities may vary 
widely, but the RT goals should be met on either platform.


Good luck!

Steve Samson

J Ellis wrote:
We are going to have a 2094-604- 4 engines at approx 435mips per engine 
and  a 2064-2C9- 9 engines at approx 232mips per engine in our plex. Three 
lpars on the 2094 and two on the 2064. Workload is CICS/DB2/IMS/MQ with 
lots of DDF mixed in during the day as well as user critical batch that 
also runs during the online day, heavy batch at night. The concern is 
trying to adjust WLM for the different hardware, i.e. a velocity of 30 on 
the 2094 means something different than velocity 30 on the 2064 within the 
same plex, correct ? Has anyone had any experience with this type of 
configuration ?


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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
This thread has me doing some RTFM as I am interested in this area also.

Did you change all the ICEAMx installation default modules?  The manual
shows there are 8 of them.

On Tue, 23 May 2006 03:56:56 -0500, Christian Blesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Dave,

thanks for your quickly reponse!

On Mon, 22 May 2006 15:18:45 -0500, Dave Betten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Finger checked before so not sure if this got sent already.

I looked at your SMFPRMxx parms and they appear ok.  Type 16 is not in
your NOTYPE list for STC.  But I'm still a little unclear as to what your
situation is.

Did you just implement your own initialization (ICEIEXIT) and termination
(ICETEXIT) routines and now you only get SMF records for STCs?


I have had a look at our usermods and I have only seen ICEIEXIT implemented
to limit hiperspace usage. So, the lines of this exit doesn't seems to be
modified to get only smf records for jobs. I could sent you this exit to
revise it.


Did you just modify your exits and now you only get SMF records for STCs?

Are you not using any exits and even with SMF=YES as the installation
default, you're still not getting any records?

Are you sure there are started tasks executing sorts?  If so, are they jcl
invoked sorts or program invoked?

I don't know how about ChageAccumulation works but jcl not shows program
invoked directly:


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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-23 Thread Frank Yaeger
Matthew Stitt wrote on 05/23/2006 08:50:50 AM:

 This thread has me doing some RTFM as I am interested in this area also.

 Did you change all the ICEAMx installation default modules?  The manual
 shows there are 8 of them.

(David asked Christian for some more information offline so he can better
understand the situation.)

There are actually four ICEAMx installation default modules, and four
ICETDx installation default modules.

The ICEAMx modules are for the JCL, INV, TSO and TSOINV environments.

An ICETDx module is only needed if you want to change DFSORT installation
options according to the time-of-day.

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 Migration
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sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Howard Rifkind
I have a problem with a sysmod that SMP says is received but can't be found. 
When I bring it up the entry and then place an S next to it it's asking for a 
volume that isn't there.
   
  It it possible to clear out the bad entry and then either receive or copy 
over the sysmod again?
   
  If so can anyone suggest how to do this.  Thanks.
   
   




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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
Do you have multiple SMPPTS datasets defined in the GLOBAL zone? If so
they also have to be defined in the target zone you are running the
apply against.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

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Subject: sysmod receive but can't be found

I have a problem with a sysmod that SMP says is received but can't be
found. When I bring it up the entry and then place an S next to it it's
asking for a volume that isn't there.
   
  It it possible to clear out the bad entry and then either receive or
copy over the sysmod again?
   
  If so can anyone suggest how to do this.  Thanks.
   

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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/23/2006 11:16:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do you  have multiple SMPPTS datasets defined in the GLOBAL zone? If so
they also  have to be defined in the target zone you are running the
apply  against.




Right. If entries were added to get by the massive receive better be in all  
ZONEs. If not can do a REJECT and re-RECEIVE.

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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
You don't have to reject and re-receive. Just add the new SMPPTSxx
datasets to your target/dlib zones.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

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In a message dated 5/23/2006 11:16:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do you  have multiple SMPPTS datasets defined in the GLOBAL zone? If so
they also  have to be defined in the target zone you are running the
apply  against.




Right. If entries were added to get by the massive receive better be in
all  
ZONEs. If not can do a REJECT and re-RECEIVE.

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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Howard Rifkind
Mark,
   
  I do have several SMPPTS datasets all of which are defined in both the global 
and target zones.  
   
  Of interest is the fact that the volume for the first SMPPTS can't be found 
anywhere in the system yet the sysmod shows up as received.

Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you have multiple SMPPTS datasets defined in the GLOBAL zone? If so
they also have to be defined in the target zone you are running the
apply against.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Howard Rifkind
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:13 PM
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Subject: sysmod receive but can't be found

I have a problem with a sysmod that SMP says is received but can't be
found. When I bring it up the entry and then place an S next to it it's
asking for a volume that isn't there.

It it possible to clear out the bad entry and then either receive or
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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Check the dddef entries for all your SMPPTS entries to see if they have
UNIT and VOLUME information.  The SMPPTS may be uncataloged but SMP/E is
finding it via VOLSER in the global zone but trying to use the catalog
in the target zone.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: sysmod receive but can't be found


Mark,
   
  I do have several SMPPTS datasets all of which are defined in both the
global and target zones.  
   
  Of interest is the fact that the volume for the first SMPPTS can't be
found anywhere in the system yet the sysmod shows up as received.

Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you have multiple SMPPTS datasets defined in the GLOBAL zone? If so
they also have to be defined in the target zone you are running the
apply against.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

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Subject: sysmod receive but can't be found

I have a problem with a sysmod that SMP says is received but can't be
found. When I bring it up the entry and then place an S next to it it's
asking for a volume that isn't there.

It it possible to clear out the bad entry and then either receive or
copy over the sysmod again?

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JES2 Exit 52 woes in z/OS 1.7

2006-05-23 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Or on the flip side, you may have somehow introduced a bogus volser into
the DDDEF entry after the PTF was received.

If you do a 3.4, do all the SMPPTS datasets show up in the system via
catalog processing as opposed to looking at a specific volser?

Rex

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Check the dddef entries for all your SMPPTS entries to see if they have
UNIT and VOLUME information.  The SMPPTS may be uncataloged but SMP/E is
finding it via VOLSER in the global zone but trying to use the catalog
in the target zone.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: sysmod receive but can't be found


Mark,
   
  I do have several SMPPTS datasets all of which are defined in both the
global and target zones.  
   
  Of interest is the fact that the volume for the first SMPPTS can't be
found anywhere in the system yet the sysmod shows up as received.

Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you have multiple SMPPTS datasets defined in the GLOBAL zone? If so
they also have to be defined in the target zone you are running the
apply against.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:13 PM
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Subject: sysmod receive but can't be found

I have a problem with a sysmod that SMP says is received but can't be
found. When I bring it up the entry and then place an S next to it it's
asking for a volume that isn't there.

It it possible to clear out the bad entry and then either receive or
copy over the sysmod again?

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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/23/2006 11:29:52 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just add  the new SMPPTSxx
datasets to your target/dlib  zones.





I was going thru the worst case scenario, where the new PTS's  were
gone.

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MIGRATION FROM THE MAINFRAME: CAN DO, BUT NO, THANKS

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Heads up OA16055 IRD VARYCPU

2006-05-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

I have been very pleased with the way IRD VARYCPU and LPAR weight
management work.  The use of IRD eliminated most of the manual
adjustments and balancing we had to do prior with LPAR CP assignments
and weights.  We took an emergency IPL last Friday morning due to
fallout after the problem described in OA16055. VARYCPU was turned off
till we get the PTF and requisites installed.  Be aware the requisites
pulled in fixes from a half dozen HIPER and new function dispatcher
APARs.

APAR Identifier .. OA16055  Last Changed  06/05/17
  ABEND0C4 IN IEAVESC0 DUE TO IN-USE WEB ON FREE QUEUE
 
 
  Symptom .. AB ABEND0C4  Status ... CLOSED  PER
  Severity ... 1  Date Closed . 06/04/19
  Component .. 5752SC1C5  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 709  Fixed Release  999
  Component Name 5752 SUPVR CONT  Special Notice   HIPER
  Current Target Date ..06/05/04  Flags  RESTART/BOOT/IPL
  SCP ...
  Platform 
 
  Status Detail: SHIPMENT - Packaged solution is available for
shipment.
 
  PE PTF List:
 
  PTF List:
  Release 709   : UA25665 available 06/05/03 (1000 )
  Release 72S   : UA25668 available 06/05/17 (1000 )
  Release 720   : UA25666 available 06/05/03 (1000 )
  Release 730   : PTF not available yet
  Release 730   : Relief is available in the form of: PTF


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Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread David Speake
I have a request for assistance in finding all JCL steps that use IEFBR14 to
create (allocate might be a better word choice) data sets that are to be 
!written! to by INFOGIX/Unitech ACR version 3.3. The group in my shop
responsible for care and feeding of this product contend that the vendor has
told them that Since the product is LE compliant, it cannot write into a
dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14 utility. There WILL be
testing (SMS and non-SMS) before this task is undertaken. I read the thread
on EOF MARKS Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:51:40 -0600, and loved the SMSBR14 idea
for that situation. But my question is: Cannot write? 

I know that READING a BR14 allocated data set has ALWAYS (prior to SMS) been
a fine recipe for disaster, but writing? And if this IS true, what does LE
have to do with it.

P. S.INFOGIX is an IBM BP 
  
  

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ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-23 Thread John Dawes
I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS.  I receve the error ADR120E 
because of  TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1' 
Can you suggest a correction.  What I am attempting to do is backup files from 
certain volumes.  However, I want only to backup files that are less than 1 day 
old and must NOT be VSAM.  Below is a copy of my control cards.
   
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-  
MED*.**   - 
X*.** - 
Y*.** - 
Z*.** - 
SRT.**- 
SYS*.**   - 
TEMP.**   - 
*SYSUT*.**)  -  
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -  
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
TOL(ENQF)   

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Tom Marchant
I would add, use response time goals for everything you can.  They
are far preferable for batch, IMHO.  Use a relatively low percentile
and reasonable goals.  Don't be too concerned about the monster jobs
that run all night.  You probably don't have very many of them.
You'll probably find, as I did, that the vast majority of your
important production jobs run in a relatively short time.  Maybe a
goal of 50% complete in less that 30 minutes will cover most of
your work.  The rest will go along for the ride.

And don't forget to put as much as you can into discretionary.
Maybe even last period TSO.

On Tue, 23 May 2006 08:20:52 -0700, Steve Samson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jerry,

Now would be a good time to move to response time goals for CICS (before
the upgrade). In the mixed environment, the achieved velocities may vary
widely, but the RT goals should be met on either platform.

Good luck!

Steve Samson


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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Try BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -  there is an example in the
manual.

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:32 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS.  I receve the error
ADR120E because of  TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1' 
Can you suggest a correction.  What I am attempting to do is backup
files from certain volumes.  However, I want only to backup files that
are less than 1 day old and must NOT be VSAM.  Below is a copy of my
control cards.
   
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-  
MED*.**   - 
X*.** - 
Y*.** - 
Z*.** - 
SRT.**- 
SYS*.**   - 
TEMP.**   - 
*SYSUT*.**)  -  
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -  
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
TOL(ENQF)   

  Thanks to all in advance.



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Re: the Java strangeness

2006-05-23 Thread O'Mara, Kevin, ITD
Perhaps this is already long solved; excuse me if it is.

I can't say where the translation is setup wrong, but I can almost say what is 
happening. Your utf8 output strings are being translated as EBCDIC, they are 
then being displayed as ANSI cp1252 or iso8859.

If you look at the Hex for your good utf8 string, it is the EBCDIC for your 
error string. Hope this helps.

Kevin O'Mara


Error in ASCII hex (do not recognize this at all):
===
C8 EB C8 CA C1 2F 5F 2D 2D 2D
A6 2F CE 2F D1 3F
A6 2F CE 2F 25 2F

Good utf8 in ASCII Hex, this is also the error message in EBCDIC:
== == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == ==
74 53 74 72 65 61 6D
6A 61 76 61 69 6F
6A 61 76 61 6C 61

===
- this error looks like an iso8859 or ANSI/cp1252  char encoding error, of 
EBCDIC translation of utf8 string:
==

ÈëÈÊÁ/_---
¦/Î/Ñ?
¦/Î/%/

dis utf8:
==

tStream
javaio
javala

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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-23 Thread John Dawes
I tried it out and I get the syntax error:
  ADR124E (001)-RI01 (02), DELIMITER '(' IS NOT PROPERLY PRECEDED BY A CONSTANT 
OR

  I tried the command using :
   BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM))and 
 
  BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM) 

Same error on both counts.
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM)) - there is an example in the
manual.

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:32 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS. I receve the error
ADR120E because of TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1' 
Can you suggest a correction. What I am attempting to do is backup
files from certain volumes. However, I want only to backup files that
are less than 1 day old and must NOT be VSAM. Below is a copy of my
control cards.

DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.** - 
MED*.** - 
X*.** - 
Y*.** - 
Z*.** - 
SRT.** - 
SYS*.** - 
TEMP.** - 
*SYSUT*.**) - 
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) - 
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
TOL(ENQF) 

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Tom Marchant
Sounds like FUD.  BR14 is just a trivial program.  The allocation is
not done by BR14, but by the same allocation at step initiation that
is used when you execute any other program.

On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:19 -0500, David  Speake [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I have a request for assistance in finding all JCL steps that use IEFBR14 
to
create (allocate might be a better word choice) data sets that are to be
!written! to by INFOGIX/Unitech ACR version 3.3. The group in my shop
responsible for care and feeding of this product contend that the vendor 
has
told them that Since the product is LE compliant, it cannot write into a
dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14 utility. There WILL be
testing (SMS and non-SMS) before this task is undertaken. I read the thread
on EOF MARKS Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:51:40 -0600, and loved the SMSBR14 idea
for that situation. But my question is: Cannot write?

I know that READING a BR14 allocated data set has ALWAYS (prior to SMS) 
been
a fine recipe for disaster, but writing? And if this IS true, what does LE
have to do with it.

P. S.INFOGIX is an IBM BP


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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
My mistake, should have cut and pasted before. Example follows:

 If you code,
 
   BY((ALLOC EQ CYL) (CATLG EQ YES)) 
 
 you receive all cataloged data sets with cylinder allocation.

You have uneven parenthesis causing your error in the first case. By not
having the second ( at the beginning of the second case, DSS doesn't
expect the second conditional argument to be present.   

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

I tried it out and I get the syntax error:
  ADR124E (001)-RI01 (02), DELIMITER '(' IS NOT PROPERLY PRECEDED BY A
CONSTANT OR

  I tried the command using :
   BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM))and 
 
  BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM) 

Same error on both counts.
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM)) - there is an example in the
manual.

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:32 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS. I receve the error
ADR120E because of TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1' 
Can you suggest a correction. What I am attempting to do is backup files
from certain volumes. However, I want only to backup files that are less
than 1 day old and must NOT be VSAM. Below is a copy of my control
cards.

DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.** -
MED*.** -
X*.** -
Y*.** -
Z*.** -
SRT.** -
SYS*.** -
TEMP.** -
*SYSUT*.**) -
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) -
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -
TOL(ENQF) 

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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Try BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) -

Rex

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Behalf Of John Dawes
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error


I tried it out and I get the syntax error:
  ADR124E (001)-RI01 (02), DELIMITER '(' IS NOT PROPERLY PRECEDED BY A
CONSTANT OR

  I tried the command using :
   BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM))and 
 
  BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM) 

Same error on both counts.
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM)) - there is an example in the
manual.

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:32 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS. I receve the error
ADR120E because of TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1' 
Can you suggest a correction. What I am attempting to do is backup files
from certain volumes. However, I want only to backup files that are less
than 1 day old and must NOT be VSAM. Below is a copy of my control
cards.

DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.** - 
MED*.** - 
X*.** - 
Y*.** - 
Z*.** - 
SRT.** - 
SYS*.** - 
TEMP.** - 
*SYSUT*.**) - 
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) - 
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
TOL(ENQF) 

Thanks to all in advance.



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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
   RLSE happens at the end of the BR14 step. If your DATACLAS or space
allocations don't have sufficient secondary and you specify RLSE via JCL
or SMS, you can be burnt with x37 abends.


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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:45 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3
 
 Sounds like FUD.  BR14 is just a trivial program.  The allocation is
 not done by BR14, but by the same allocation at step initiation that
 is used when you execute any other program.
 
 On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:19 -0500, David  Speake
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I have a request for assistance in finding all JCL steps that use
IEFBR14
 to
 create (allocate might be a better word choice) data sets that are to
be
 !written! to by INFOGIX/Unitech ACR version 3.3. The group in my shop
 responsible for care and feeding of this product contend that the
vendor
 has
 told them that Since the product is LE compliant, it cannot write
into a
 dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14 utility. There WILL
be
 testing (SMS and non-SMS) before this task is undertaken. I read the
 thread
 on EOF MARKS Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:51:40 -0600, and loved the SMSBR14
 idea
 for that situation. But my question is: Cannot write?
 
 I know that READING a BR14 allocated data set has ALWAYS (prior to
SMS)
 been
 a fine recipe for disaster, but writing? And if this IS true, what
does
 LE
 have to do with it.
 
 P. S.INFOGIX is an IBM BP
 
 
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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
See if this example helps

 DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(**) -
  BY((DSORG NE VSAM) - 
 (CATLG EQ NO))) - 


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Subject: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS.  I receve the error
ADR120E because of  TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1' 
Can you suggest a correction.  What I am attempting to do is backup
files from certain volumes.  However, I want only to backup files that
are less than 1 day old and must NOT be VSAM.  Below is a copy of my
control cards.
   
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-  
MED*.**   - 
X*.** - 
Y*.** - 
Z*.** - 
SRT.**- 
SYS*.**   - 
TEMP.**   - 
*SYSUT*.**)  -  
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -  
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
TOL(ENQF)   

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Whenever I hear vendor claims like Since the product is LE compliant,
it cannot write into a dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14
utility, I insist that they provide specific references to
documentation from IBM that describes that particular behavior.  Usually
they cannot, so I make them aware of the error of their ways.

Don Imbriale

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of David Speake
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

I have a request for assistance in finding all JCL steps that use
IEFBR14 to
create (allocate might be a better word choice) data sets that are to
be
!written! to by INFOGIX/Unitech ACR version 3.3. The group in my shop
responsible for care and feeding of this product contend that the
vendor has
told them that Since the product is LE compliant, it cannot write into
a
dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14 utility. There WILL be
testing (SMS and non-SMS) before this task is undertaken. I read the
thread
on EOF MARKS Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:51:40 -0600, and loved the SMSBR14
idea
for that situation. But my question is: Cannot write?

I know that READING a BR14 allocated data set has ALWAYS (prior to SMS)
been
a fine recipe for disaster, but writing? And if this IS true, what does
LE
have to do with it.



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Re: Password Complexity

2006-05-23 Thread R.S.

Bruce Black wrote:
Focusing on mainframe shops I've got to admit, very often there is no 
position even for auditor, so auditor role is maintained by 
...security administrator. 


I can't quote the Latin (I took French) but the famous Latin quote 
translates to something like who shall guard those selfsame guardians, 
i.e., who is watching the security administrator?  That's like asking a 
programmer to do a review of his/her own code. 
I am no fan of typical auditors, but a good, educated and intelligent 
auditor can be a great benefit to a company.


Gentlemen,
Did I say it is good solution ?
I just described the reality. Boss tells you you are responsible for 
RACF, we don't have any other specialist. He doesn't care about 
details. Those administrators (it is *not* the only case!!!) sometimes 
try to convince management to have separate or just external auditor, 
usually with poor effects.
BTW: I know another funny case: huge public company have special audit 
department. However nobody in the department is IT specialist. 
Especially they know absolutely *nothing* about mainframes. Nothing. 
Never logged on. No user account. The decision was they should provide 
audits for central system which is mainframe based. One of them took 
RACF Administration course. He had absolutely no idea what I was talking 
about (I was the teacher). In fact he even didn't try.


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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
Tom,

Shall we add I for FUD making FUDI, I for Ignorance, that is?

Chris Mason

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, 23 May, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3


 Sounds like FUD.  BR14 is just a trivial program.  The allocation is
 not done by BR14, but by the same allocation at step initiation that
 is used when you execute any other program.

 On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:05:19 -0500, David  Speake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I have a request for assistance in finding all JCL steps that use IEFBR14
 to
 create (allocate might be a better word choice) data sets that are to be
 !written! to by INFOGIX/Unitech ACR version 3.3. The group in my shop
 responsible for care and feeding of this product contend that the vendor
 has
 told them that Since the product is LE compliant, it cannot write into a
 dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14 utility. There WILL be
 testing (SMS and non-SMS) before this task is undertaken. I read the
thread
 on EOF MARKS Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:51:40 -0600, and loved the SMSBR14
idea
 for that situation. But my question is: Cannot write?
 
 I know that READING a BR14 allocated data set has ALWAYS (prior to SMS)
 been
 a fine recipe for disaster, but writing? And if this IS true, what does
LE
 have to do with it.
 
 P. S.INFOGIX is an IBM BP
 

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Craddock, Chris
 Don Imbriale said: 
 Whenever I hear vendor claims like Since the product is LE compliant,
 it cannot write into a dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14
 utility, I insist that they provide specific references to
 documentation from IBM that describes that particular behavior.
Usually
 they cannot, so I make them aware of the error of their ways.

And do ya say Liar liar, pants on fire? You should.

IEFBR14 is a two instruction program. It does not do ANYTHING but return
with a zero condition code. z/OS allocation creates the datasets
referenced in the JCL. IEFBR14 is just used as a dummy program to get
allocation to do its thing. LE has nothing whatsoever to do with it. A
dataset is a dataset is a dataset.

CC

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Bell

RLSE doesn't happen unless the dataset has been opened for output.  Which
BR14 doesn't do.
dataset allocated with IEFBR14 is exactly like specified in JCL - complete
with no EOF or anything.

Mike

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JES2 LISTSERV

2006-05-23 Thread Smith, Sean M
Help.  I am looking for the JES2 Listserv but am having some problems.
I found one at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it appears to be all
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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Mason
 
 Tom,
 
 Shall we add I for FUD making FUDI, I for 
 Ignorance, that is?

You left out Superstition:  FUDSI.  :-)

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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
   So, really what is being said here is:

z9 = no ESCON = no GRS via CTC = Only CF plexes! 
And no monoplexes in GRS ring! 

   Or, am I confused.


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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Shane
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:45 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: GRS and Ficon CTC
 
 Radoslaw wrote:
 
  Do you mean GRS over CTC, but *not* over XCF ?
 
 Yep ...  :(
 
  IMHO you can't do it. GRS requires pretty ancient device type
(BCTC),
  while this type is not supported on FICON chpid.
 
 Yes, I was expecting the same way, hoping for different.
 
  Probably it is IBM recommendation to use XCF (and then sysplex).
 
 This is my likely direction, but the water needed testing.
 
 Bruce then wrote:
 
  It doesn't say no FICON but the list is explicit.
 
 Not to me it ain't - change can mean to means, and the question
 would never have occurred.
 
 Thanks folks.
 
 Shane ...
 
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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
   With SMS, RLSE, (Yes, Immediate) at least I think I've seen it,
happens at step end. You're correct for non-SMS datasets.


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 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3
 
 RLSE doesn't happen unless the dataset has been opened for output.
Which
 BR14 doesn't do.
 dataset allocated with IEFBR14 is exactly like specified in JCL -
complete
 with no EOF or anything.
 
 Mike
 
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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Marian Gasparovic

Why do you think z9 = no ESCON ? It is not true, ESCON is still supported

Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia

On 5/23/06, Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   So, really what is being said here is:

z9 = no ESCON = no GRS via CTC = Only CF plexes!


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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread R.S.

Gibney, Dave wrote:


   So, really what is being said here is:

z9 = no ESCON = no GRS via CTC = Only CF plexes! 
And no monoplexes in GRS ring! 


   Or, am I confused.


Why z9=no ESCON ?
I have a lot of ESCONs in my shining z9.

BTW: Bruce mentioned CF structures as link option for GRS *ring*.
Isn't it mistake ?
I only heard (and used) about structure for GRS *star* mode.

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Bruce Black


The group in my shop
responsible for care and feeding of this product contend that the vendor has
told them that Since the product is LE compliant, it cannot write into a
dataset that has been generated by the IEFBR14 utility.
I know absolutely nothing about LE, so this is pure conjecture.  If LE 
always opens pre-existing datasets as INOUT, meaning that it reads from 
the dataset before it starts outputting to it, then it is possible that 
a dataset that was allocated with no EOF may always cause errors.


Of course, this has nothing to do with IEFBR14 per se, but with a 
dataset which is allocated in JCL but is never OPENED for output.  The 
PGM= could be anything. 


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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
   Guess I'm confused, I was sure I read it somewhere that z9(8)90 and
up were FICON only. I'm still at a z800 myself.


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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of R.S.
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:40 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: GRS and Ficon CTC
 
 Gibney, Dave wrote:
 
 So, really what is being said here is:
 
  z9 = no ESCON = no GRS via CTC = Only CF plexes!
  And no monoplexes in GRS ring!
 
 Or, am I confused.
 
 Why z9=no ESCON ?
 I have a lot of ESCONs in my shining z9.
 
 BTW: Bruce mentioned CF structures as link option for GRS *ring*.
 Isn't it mistake ?
 I only heard (and used) about structure for GRS *star* mode.
 
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Re: JES2 Exit 52 woes in z/OS 1.7

2006-05-23 Thread Bob Rutledge

Might it be OA14774?

Bob

Horne, Jim - James S wrote:

We are trying to customize the JES2 exits under z/OS 1.7 and have run
into a problem.  While exit 2 works fine and exit 52 does perform all of
the functions we need it to perform, exit 52 does not issue error
messages into JOBLOG.  We have tried everything we can think of, but it
only issues messages into SYSLOG.  Can anyone help us get these error
messages into JOBLOG?


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Any success with WD4Z ?

2006-05-23 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi


 Just installed WD4Z (Web Sphere Developer for z/OS ) and RSE(Remote System
Explorer) on z/OS 1.7 with version 6.0
Till now unable to connect from the PC (only the JES interface works) , got
different abends in LE,  even unable to get
a proper SYSMDUMP.
Is this the new word for the developer platforms ?

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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Bruce Black

BTW: Bruce mentioned CF structures as link option for GRS *ring*.
Isn't it mistake ?
I only heard (and used) about structure for GRS *star* mode. 
I was also surprised to read that but it is very clear.  Apparently if 
you are forced to use a ring, because you have more than one sysplex, 
you can still use the CF to communicate between systems in each plex, 
but I guess you need some other method to go between the plexes.  I 
didn't read far enough into the GRS manual to get to the details, but 
this stuff is pretty well laid out in the first few chapters of the GRS 
Planning Guide.


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Re: Any success with WD4Z ?

2006-05-23 Thread Andy White
We have the same situation. We opened a PMR with IBM because I even went 
to 6.02 maint under z/OS 1.7 and my customer still cant logon with his 
client piece. 


Andy S White

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Hi


 Just installed WD4Z (Web Sphere Developer for z/OS ) and RSE(Remote 
System
Explorer) on z/OS 1.7 with version 6.0
Till now unable to connect from the PC (only the JES interface works) , 
got
different abends in LE,  even unable to get
a proper SYSMDUMP.
Is this the new word for the developer platforms ?





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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Marian Gasparovic

z900 was the last one which supports parallel channel, maybe that confused you.

Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia

On 5/23/06, Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Guess I'm confused, I was sure I read it somewhere that z9(8)90 and
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Re: Any success with WD4Z ?

2006-05-23 Thread Richard Pinion
Maybe you should have used WD40 instead!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/23/2006 3:41 PM 
We have the same situation. We opened a PMR with IBM because I even went 
to 6.02 maint under z/OS 1.7 and my customer still cant logon with his 
client piece. 


Andy S White

Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Hi


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System
Explorer) on z/OS 1.7 with version 6.0
Till now unable to connect from the PC (only the JES interface works) , 
got
different abends in LE,  even unable to get
a proper SYSMDUMP.
Is this the new word for the developer platforms ?





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Re: JES2 LISTSERV

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
This is probably the best one you can find.

On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:28:03 -0700, Smith, Sean M
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Help.  I am looking for the JES2 Listserv but am having some problems.
I found one at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it appears to be all
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Re: Any success with WD4Z ?

2006-05-23 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi

I have also opened a PMR, but the LE second level support is asking me about
the application.
(It is completly IBM application)
Seems the 6.1 documentation is better, but we have got with the C++ debug.

We have the same situation. We opened a PMR with IBM because I even went
to 6.02 maint under z/OS 1.7 and my customer still cant logon with his
client piece.


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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Craddock, Chris
 I would add, use response time goals for everything you can.

Yes, in general that is the right answer because the target unit (time)
is invariant with respect to platform. Velocity was a bad idea.
Importance alone would have been preferable, or some less obscure way of
saying how much delay protection you wanted for the work, but now it is
what it is.

 They are far preferable for batch, IMHO.

...for most batch. If you look at your initiator and batch class
setup, you already have a first cut approximation at the goals. But
don't overdo it. Some things just don't have a goal that you can predict
and in those cases...

 Use a relatively low percentile and reasonable goals. Don't be too
concerned about the monster jobs
 that run all night.  You probably don't have very many of them.
 You'll probably find, as I did, that the vast majority of your
 important production jobs run in a relatively short time.  Maybe a
 goal of 50% complete in less that 30 minutes will cover most of
 your work.  The rest will go along for the ride.
 
 And don't forget to put as much as you can into discretionary.
 Maybe even last period TSO.

Maybe yes, maybe not. Discretionary is just that. If you approach
discretionary from the view that you don't really care whether or how it
runs as long as it eventually finishes, you probably won't be
disappointed. 

Otherwise, unless you really have capacity to spare (and keep soft/hard
caps in mind!) you are very likely to find great slabs of the day where
your discretionary stuff does not run at all - and ends up eating an
initiator for each job that's actively going nowhere. In those cases it
is better to have a goal, even if it's a pretty low one. And if you're
not resource-wealthy and don't want to spend so much time dinking around
with your policy, set a low goal and be done with it.

 Now would be a good time to move to response time goals for CICS
(before
 the upgrade). In the mixed environment, the achieved velocities may
vary
 widely, but the RT goals should be met on either platform.

I -STRONGLY- agree with Steve Samson's advice above ps. Hi Steve, are
you still enjoying retirement?

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Re: Any success with WD4Z ?

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock

Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

Hi


 Just installed WD4Z (Web Sphere Developer for z/OS ) and RSE(Remote System
Explorer) on z/OS 1.7 with version 6.0
Till now unable to connect from the PC (only the JES interface works) , got
different abends in LE,  even unable to get
a proper SYSMDUMP.
Is this the new word for the developer platforms ?


Miklos,

Frankly, we had a lot of trouble getting going, although we
eventually did and things went well after that.

The JES component was consistently the most reliable and
consistent.

Below are some notes I got from the developers while we were
working with them to get connections working:

-- 05 December 2005:

There are some IVPs (Installation Verification Programs) that may prove
usefull for you.
fekfscmd, fekfivp are the two most popular.

Since you are using RSE daemon to try and connect - look at this support
page:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/devzseries/support/

This page is the link to technotes as well -  Pointer to 6.0.1
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=2294context=SS2QJ2context=SS2JX4dc=D400uid=swg24010987loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=en

The link to all updated 6.0.1 docs:
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=2294uid=swg27006920

The link to all updated 6.0.1.1 docs :
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=2294context=SS2QJ2context=SS2JX4dc=D400uid=swg24011246loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=en

Host PTFs:
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=2294context=SS2QJ2uid=swg27006335#4


- 06 January 2006:

After some discussion here,   here is a suggestion or 2.

The problem is probably because the NAT device, it usually translates IP
addresses in packets, does know to translate the login packet
 - the address that is being reported isn't the same as the source IP in
the packet from the connection
 - Then when the server does a gethostname() or a gethostaddr() for the
packet it does not match and 'Good Night Irene'
 - If he turns off the NAT or adds ddd.ddd.1.231 host.domain_name to his
/etc/hosts on the receiving machine

[IP address, host, and domain_name mangled here to keep ours private]

===[adding the IP mapping to the /etc/hosts was a big help here;
we had a different format]===


 30 January 2006

[I found that going from the beta release to the
 GA release, I had to rebuild my workspace; if you
 had a pre-release version, you might try that]



Hope some of this helps.

===

When you get it going, we're ready and able to
train your folks. Check out WebSphere Developer
for zSeries: Introduction as a good way to get
a fast introduction to the look and feel. Details
at:
http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/w510descr.htm

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Jim Wagner
There has been some discussion about a GRS ring on a Z9. This is necessary 
at times due to multiple sysplexes sharing DASD, such as our environment. 
We have a GRS ring containing 1 sysplex and 2 monoplexes. It has some 
quirks. If anyone desires some info on how to set up, please contact me off 
list.

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Re: Any success with WD4Z ?

2006-05-23 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi 


Thank you Steve
It will take a while to read all.
I will notify the list if we see some progress.

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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
still use the CF to communicate between systems in each plex, but I guess you 
need some other method to go between the plexes.

There is a restriction (from day one) that a CF can only be used by one SYSPLEX 
at a time.
So, Inter-PLEX communication must be handled differently.

As an aside, there is a design flaw in CF Management, that can actually cause 
degradation.

1. A CF can only communicate with one SYSPLEX at a time.
2. To communicate it must have policies loaded that state the PLEX it belongs 
to.

So, why does the OS (390  z) poll any CF that is online?
Which can interupt the work being done by that CF?

I asked and was told: because you may want it to be available.
Yes. But!

I can only do that if I follow steps one and two listed above.

This introduced one more complexity in the environment.
We had to implement, and maintain, automation to vary them offline.
It was either that or asymetric IODF's.

We had our FEPs defined to 2 systems for availability reasons; the non-owning 
system NEVER polled it.
Why do it to non-owned CFs?

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300,000 Kilometres per Second
Not only is it a good idea!
It's the LAW!!!  

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread David Speake
Ahh Bruce. Spoilsport. The other guys had just about convinced me I was
right, as much by their attitude as by hard information (dangerous
orientation). I guess I should have phrased  it a bit better. I Browsed
IEFBR14 20+ years ago (or maybe it was ROSCOE's ZAP monitor) so I knew it
did nothing. As far as I know LE does NOT open everthing INOUT but the
product in question just might. Cannot imagine WHY, but you just let in a
tiny particle of doubt. Whine.   

You guys should charge, may teach me to THINK yet. 

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Samson

Chris,

I am enjoying retirement greatly--keeping busy playing bridge a lot more 
than any time since college. I still get my daily fix of IBM-MAIN and am 
happy to contribute when I can.


What's new with you? (answer off-list if you want)

Cheers,

Steve

Craddock, Chris wrote:
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I -STRONGLY- agree with Steve Samson's advice above ps. Hi Steve, are
you still enjoying retirement?

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PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-23 Thread Howard Rifkind
PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE-  -   -

  Does the above mean that ptf UA24187 is in error and should not be applied?
   
  Thanks
   


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Re: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
Most probably, on both cases.

You could check the PTF and then look up the APAR which is written against
it.  Then make a decision as to whether it will affect you or not.

On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:08:32 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE-  -   -

  Does the above mean that ptf UA24187 is in error and should not be applied?

  Thanks

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Re: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-23 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Howard,
Yes, the PE indicates that the PTF has an ERROR APAR opened against it, and
as such should probably not be applied.  However, to make that decision,
your installation will have to weigh the impact of not having the fix for
the original APAR against the potential impact of the exposed error.  Again,
in general, it is not reccomended that you apply PE PTF's, but in certain
circumstances, it may be required.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
  

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PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE-  -   -

  Does the above mean that ptf UA24187 is in error and should not be
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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Bruce Black said:

 Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:40:37 -0400
 
 I know absolutely nothing about LE, so this is pure conjecture.  If LE
 always opens pre-existing datasets as INOUT, meaning that it reads from
 the dataset before it starts outputting to it, then it is possible that
 a dataset that was allocated with no EOF may always cause errors.
 
 Of course, this has nothing to do with IEFBR14 per se, but with a
 dataset which is allocated in JCL but is never OPENED for output.  The
 PGM= could be anything.
 
But, in the broader view, SARCASMWhy can't IBM's premier OS,
whose predecessors helped send men to the moon and back, do a
better job of keeping track of where files end?/SARCASM

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Call it a design issue.  There is no flag in the VTOC that says if the 
file has data in it.

We have a series of in-house utilities to deal with this.

EOF opens and closes a series of QSAM files whose DDNAMEs are EOFnn where 
nn is 01, 02, 03, ...

Creating it is a good programming exercise.  I believe they can even be 
implemented in Cobol using the OPTIONAL file concept.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 5/23/2006 
7:04:29 PM:

 But, in the broader view, SARCASMWhy can't IBM's premier OS,
 whose predecessors helped send men to the moon and back, do a
 better job of keeping track of where files end?/SARCASM
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IGGPRE00

2006-05-23 Thread Jeff Ruegsegger
We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My sys1.lpalib 
contains a dummy IGGPRE00 as shipped by IBM.  One of my linklisted 
libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states that 
IGGPRE00 should reside in SYS1.LPALIB or be Link-edited into linklib.  Can 
someone explain how/why my IGGPRE00 is even getting picked up during DADSM 
processing?

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Jeff,

See if perhaps you are loading your IGGPRE00 into MLPA.  In
SYS1.PARMLIB(IEALPA00) you might have something like this 
   
INCLUDE LIBRARY(my.LINKLIB) MODULES(IGGPRE00) 

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We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My
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linklisted libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified
in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states
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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Art Celestini
If I am not mistaken, if you allocate on an SMS-managed volume
and specify enough DCB attributes so that SMS knows that it is 
intended to be a SAM data set, SMS will write an EOF at the
beginning of the first track and correspondingly set DS1LSTAR.
I seem to recall this as one of the features that SMS provided
when it first came out.




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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Gould

On May 23, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Frank Yaeger wrote:


Matthew Stitt wrote on 05/23/2006 08:50:50 AM:

This thread has me doing some RTFM as I am interested in this area  
also.


Did you change all the ICEAMx installation default modules?  The  
manual

shows there are 8 of them.


(David asked Christian for some more information offline so he can  
better

understand the situation.)

There are actually four ICEAMx installation default modules, and four
ICETDx installation default modules.



Frank,

Just a quick question. Instead of masking four usermods why not have  
just 1 ? this would make life a lot easier ?


ex:

ICEDEF CSECT
ICE1 type=tso,option=
ICE1 type=batch,option=???
 etc
etc
end

Ed




 
   


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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Gould

On May 23, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


In a recent note, Bruce Black said:


Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:40:37 -0400

I know absolutely nothing about LE, so this is pure conjecture.   
If LE
always opens pre-existing datasets as INOUT, meaning that it reads  
from
the dataset before it starts outputting to it, then it is possible  
that

a dataset that was allocated with no EOF may always cause errors.

Of course, this has nothing to do with IEFBR14 per se, but with a
dataset which is allocated in JCL but is never OPENED for output.   
The

PGM= could be anything.


But, in the broader view, SARCASMWhy can't IBM's premier OS,
whose predecessors helped send men to the moon and back, do a
better job of keeping track of where files end?/SARCASM



Gil,

They give you an option to do so if you fail to use the option so  
then is option user error?


Ed

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SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I read:

#4.41 SMP/E V3R4.0 Reference 
 ___

4.41 SMPWRK1

   Notes:

   2. Do not specify BLKSIZE=0. SMP/E does not support system-determined
  block size (SDB) for this data set.

Why?  Would it be any better if the programmer specified explicitly
the same value that SDB would happen to choose?

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Re: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/23/2006 5:12:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Most  probably, on both cases.

You could check the PTF and then look up the  APAR which is written against
it.  Then make a decision as to whether  it will affect you or not.





For further clarification. The n is Now Available is part of the  rollout 
packaging. The -PE- suffix is added when an APAR(s) is
taken after psi is done either internally or externally. Usually have to do  
research via IBMlink and like Wayne said make a determination as to fixing  
PTF or is it OK to let it stay unapplied. This is where I really miss the  
SE's.bff..   

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