KR> flying to Mexico and points south

[Paul Visk]

I think a better place to fly to then Mexico is the Bahamas. ?All we need to do 
is to have a gathering in Florida. Then we could fly to Freeport for lunch. 
?It's only 90 mile from West Palm Beach. ? I talked to some people at this 
year's Gathering. There is interest. : )
Paul Visk ?Belleville Il ?618 406 4705



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KR> flying to Mexico and points south

[Oscar Zuniga]

Jeff;


When I lived in San Antonio I actually had genuine invitations from pilots and 
experimenters down in Guadalajara, Mexico to fly down there.  In my 65 MPH 
Pietenpol!  They would be thrilled to see experimentals down there and I'm sure 
you would be treated very well (as Colin Hales is finding as he makes his way 
across countries on the other side of the world).


>From Los Alamos, take up a course of about 170* and 1,050 miles later, you'll 
>be in Guadalajara ;o)  From there, it's an easy day-trip over to Puerto 
>Vallarta (125 mi) if you want some sun and sand.


Hey, I still have my Mexico charts.  They haven't changed or updated them in 
20+ years...


Oscar Zuniga

Medford, OR

KR> Flying on Top

[brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com]

When I do it I have an EFIS plus backup round airspeed, turn
coordinator, altimeter, and vertical speed, autopilot run off the EFIS,
several GPSs, VOR with ILS, IFR approach plates on my tablet and backup
on my phone, ability to fly ILS or GPS approaches on autopilot off the
EFIS, XM weather, radio and handheld backup also with VOR and ILS and
oxygen and I am on flight following on cross countries.  I also have
over 30 hours IFR training with many hours actual IFR even though I
don't have the rating yet.  And I scan METARS for airports well within
my fuel range to ensure that there are holes to get down and be under
the cloud cover well above ground level before I commit myself to going
over solid cloud cover.  Terrain under me and other weather factors also
are considered.  If all is not looking good I don't go over the top.

To sum it up, I agree that anyone that does VFR over the top needs to be
well prepared and well within their comfort zone and abilities. 
Certainly don't want to give the impression that anyone should just fly
over the top willy nillly and hope for the best at their destination.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: KR> Flying on Top

My opinion for VFR pilots flying "VFR over the top" should have at a
minimum an attitude reference device and know now to keep the top side
up in IMC. Just in case they have an unplanned descent. 

KR> Flying on Top

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KR> Flying on Top

[Mike T]

Oh, of course I agree that it was the running out of gas that killed Rand,
but flying VFR on top over a severe storm system is what gave him no
options when he ran out of gas.  I remember a report that the weather was
so bad they couldn't do search and rescue for days, although it didn't
matter because he had died instantly.

And running out of gas isn't the only reason engines stop. Nowadays it
might not be so bad bad to lose the engine flying VFR on top, because GPS
could give you some idea of what's underneath you so you won't crash into a
mountain or something.  If you're IFR qualified, that's even better. But
it's still more risky.

Mike Taglieri

On Aug 20, 2016 9:07 AM, "Paul Visk via KRnet"  wrote:

>
>
> Dan said:   I don't think that "flying on top" is what got him killed.  I
> think that itwas running out of gas
>  Whanever I was doing an IFR cross country flight. I would always get an
> "VFR on top" clearance. This gives me VFR freedom and still be able to
> maintain my IFR flight plan.  My opinion for VFR pilots flying "VFR over
> the top" should have at a minimum an attitude reference device and know now
> to keep the top side up in IMC. Just in case they have an unplanned
> descent.
> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
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KR> Flying on Top

[Paul Visk]

Dan said: ? I don't think that "flying on top" is what got him killed.? I think 
that itwas running out of gas
?Whanever I was doing an IFR cross country flight. I would always get an "VFR 
on top" clearance. This gives me VFR freedom and still be able to maintain my 
IFR flight plan. ?My opinion for VFR pilots flying "VFR over the top" should 
have at a minimum an attitude reference device and know now to keep the top 
side up in IMC. Just in case they have an unplanned descent.?
Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705
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KR> Flying on Top

[Daniel Heath]

I don't think that "flying on top" is what got him killed.  I think that it
was running out of gas.  IMHO.



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-Original Message-



"Also, are you flying on top of the weather, too?  That's how Ken Rand died.

He was flying VFR on top and ran out of gas."

KR> Flying kr2 in the northeast?

[Paul]

Derry NH. Just south of Manchester NH. 
You can contact me off line?at N7970K at gmail.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Vincent Meyer, M.D. via KRnet"  
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: "Vincent Meyer, M.D."  
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:16:09 PM 
Subject: KR> Flying kr2 in the northeast? 

Planning on starting construction on my kr2 this summer. ?Is there anybody in 
the northeast USA who would be interested in letting me look over their plane, 
and maybe beg a ride? ?I'm just south of Lake George, NY. ? 

Thanks, 

Vincent Meyer 
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KR> Flying kr2 in the northeast?

[Vincent Meyer, M.D.]

Planning on starting construction on my kr2 this summer.  Is there anybody in 
the northeast USA who would be interested in letting me look over their plane, 
and maybe beg a ride?  I'm just south of Lake George, NY.  

Thanks,

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KR> flying trip

[n357cj]

Good Morning Guys,
I had a great trip from KUKT to KJYM this weekend to visit Brother Roy of the 
Szarafinski clan. I left for MI. about 12:30pm and arrived at about 4:15 pm 
fighting a pretty good head wind all the way of 20 to 25 mph. flew most of the 
way between 6500 and 8500 but climbed to 10500 to cross Lake Erie. The trip 
home was much more to my liking yesterday afternoon. With tail winds of about 
20 mph I climbed out of KJYM to 11500 over the lake and continued at that 
altitude until decent about 85 miles out of home. The flight was 490 miles each 
way and I burned 17.5 gals out and about 12 gals back. True airspeed was kept 
right at 165 mph and ground speed was roughly 135 out and 190 back. If my math 
is close it works out to right around 35 miles to the gallon for the trip. I 
fattened the log book by a little over 6 hours.
?? I had a good time with Roy and certainly had my horizons broadened. Roy is 
doing some interesting work that shows some great promise for the future. He 
also introduced me to one of his local friends that is into drag racing and the 
like. It is truly incredible what can be found in someones local shop or in 
this case on what looks like just the average little farmette. This guy has  
the skunk works of the street rod world hidden in his shop with a real world 
mixture of creativity, art and science being built into several old cars. Great 
fun and education.
Joe Horton

KR> Flying to the Gathering

[Dan Prichard]

Long range weather forecast shows mostly sunny, temps in the upper 70's to low 
80's, evening low near 53.  
Winds will be out of the NW around 10 kts. Looking good. 
We do have some fires in the area with light smoke in the Willamette Valley. 
Just thought you might want to know. 

Dan Prichard
Portland Oregon 

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> On Aug 21, 2015, at 7:39 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> For those planning to fly to the KR Gathering, keep a close eye on the TFRs 
> out west.  I noticed a new TFR popped up this morning right on top of my 
> planned route after I finished my preliminary flight planning yesterday.  
> Make sure you keep your TFR databases up to date.
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
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KR> KR flying into Oshkosh

[Patrick Flowers]

On Fri, June 27, 2014 1:20 pm, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> Patrick Flowers wrote:
>
>> As long as you're doing rewinds, I've been curious a while - what
>> happened
>> to the Swift?
>
> I still have it.

> The wife likes the idea of having a larger
> plane,
> so we'll keep it in the inventory.

Thanks for the update Mark!  I knew about the gear up incident and that
you had begun repairs, but didn't know the rest.  Glad to hear that you're
gonna' keep it.  I've got a soft spot for Swift's(not sure whether it's in
my heart or head tho'...).

KR> KR flying into Oshkosh

[Patrick Flowers]

On Fri, June 27, 2014 1:20 pm, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> Patrick Flowers wrote:
>
>> As long as you're doing rewinds, I've been curious a while - what
>> happened
>> to the Swift?
>
> I still have it.  On my 93rd landing I forgot to put the gear down, which
> was my incentive to buy N891JF.   I thought I was past that point, but I
> entered downwind too fast to drop the gear (110k max), and made a mental
> note to drop it after the speed dropped...and forgot.   Smoothest landing
> I
> ever did in the Swift, until the "tick tick tick" of the prop blades on
> the
> runway.  The skin damage wasn't that bad, but I do want to rebuild the
> engine and inspect the crank and gears (I'm funny about crankshafts),
> which
> will be a winter project.  The wife likes the idea of having a larger
> plane,
> so we'll keep it in the inventory.
>
> The good news is they say you only do that once...and it will have a
> really
> loud horn to go with the flashing light on the panel for the "gear is up,
> but RPM's are low" warning...
>
> Mark Langford
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> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
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KR> KR flying into Oshkosh

[Mark Langford]

Adam Tippin wrote:



> What's wrong with 56ML? Did I miss something?



Apparently you missed the story at http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/break3/ .  It?s 
repairable, but since I?d been planning on building a much lighter 
single-seater version and further improving the concept, I decided I?d just get 
started building it.  But I needed a ?ready to fly? turn-key plane to fly for 
the 3-5 years it would take to build my next one, and N891JF was offered.  So I 
picked it up thinking I was ready to start building the next one, but it spun a 
bearing after a few hours, so I rebuilt the engine.  While the engine was apart 
I redid many other aspects of the plane, most of which is detailed at 
http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/  , and rest is coming eventually. 



I now have everything it takes to build the new plane, so that project will be 
started after a few other projects like hangar and basement cleaning and house 
remodeling...



Mark Langford

ML at N56ML.com

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KR> KR flying into Oshkosh

[Mark Langford]

Rob Schmitt wrote:

> I just bought my full week ticket for Oshkosh. I see the KR forum is 
> earlier than usual this year at 8:30 am on Monday morning hosted by Mark 
> Langford.

I think the forum is the same time as last year, (but 8:30 Monday July 28th 
for sure).   And it's listed as Forum 4, but when clicking on the map link 
you end up in Uvalde Texas!  I really screwed up last year and asked for 
something a little earlier than the usual lunchtime slot, because I was 
tired of talking over Harriers and the beginning of the airshow, and was 
selfishly trying to leave myself an "out" to depart before the airshow if 
the weather was closing in on Tuesday.  I never dreamed I'd be stuck with 
8:30, which I'm sure will put a lot of people out.  So  I asked for the 
later slot back this year, but didn't get it.  Chalk one up to experience. 
I'll try again next year.

> I'll be flying up my KR2S to Baraboo WI Saturday (26 July)  to attend the 
> Wittman Tailwind fly-in, and into OSH on Sunday morning.
> So Mark L., are you flying JF up to Osh?

I am planning on flying up for Osh, but have decided that I really need to 
make some changes before I fly anywhere that will require a fuel stop in the 
dead of summer. My carb is nestled right between four exhaust pipes on 
N891JF, almost touching, and that's really asking for vapor lock trouble 
when you refuel and allow fifteen minutes of heat soak time.  Been there, 
done that, don't like to hear the engine stumble on climbout!  So I'm going 
to do something different with either exhaust or intake/carb before then, 
and hopefully I'll be finished in time to fly to OSH.  There's no point in 
stacking the odds against myself.  Otherwise, I'll either drive or talk 
nicely to Larry for another great ride in like last year...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> KR flying into Oshkosh

[Robert7721]

I just bought my full week ticket for Oshkosh. I see the KR forum is earlier 
than usual this year at 8:30 am on Monday morning hosted by Mark Langford.
I'll be flying up my KR2S to Baraboo WI Saturday (26 July)  to attend the 
Wittman Tailwind fly-in, and into OSH on Sunday morning.
So Mark L., are you flying JF up to Osh?  and are there any other KRs flying in 
this year? Hope to see a few more this year than last.
By the way, Bill Clapp of previous KR fame finished up a WIttman Tailwind this 
year with a Corvair Engine in it.  It should be a Baraboo per the Tailwind 
forum discussions. It will be interesting to see how it turned out.  I am 
building a Tailwind myself, but plan to put a 0290D in it. 


Rob Schmitt
N1852Z
www.robert7721.com

KR> flying, KR 19-8322

[Roger Bulla]

-Original Message- 
From: robert gill
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:10 PM
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: Re: KR> flying, KR 19-8322

While I am, here how the hell do anyone tune a revflow carby I can tune the 
mix at the needle to run smooth at full throttle soon as i pull it back 
under about 80% and to idle, the engine sounds so rich it wants to drown! 
and have to continuously fumble between throttle and mix while flying.Some 
suggestions would be handy.

Robert

I don't have an answer to the question of the Revflow. I have been trying to 
get the one I have tuned to where it runs smoothly at all throttle settings, 
but still no luck. I have Joe at Revmaster sending another needle to try. If 
I get the top end OK it will stumble in the mid ranger, generally right at 
the RPM I would like to use in pattern. If I get it run well at midrange the 
top end is way to lean or rich. I bought another needle from Revmaster a few 
weeks ago that brought the top end mixture where it needed to be, but was so 
rich at part throttle that I had to bring the mixture almost to idle cutoff 
in pattern to keep the engine running. Also when tuning with the plane on 
the ground with the tail tied down and the cowl off, I get it to run pretty 
well playing with the needle adjustment, then run terrible with the cowl on 
and in flight.

I did try a tilotson carb last week. It is a little large but worked good at 
high throttle settings but again would stumble in midrange, and sometimes at 
idle it will die with out warning. It will always restart with the choke on. 
I had rigged up a speedometer cable to control the main mixture needle. I 
wonder if the midrange stumble on both of these carbs is due to the large 
passages in the intake manifold? It has been cold and it seems to me that 
the fuel is falling out of the air stream at lower throttle settings and the 
cold manifolds. I remember reading something about this in a book on 
carburetor tuning I had read many years ago.

On my old KR I was using the Zenith that Great Plains sells with a single 
runner manifold to the heads. That engine was also a 2180 cc. That 
combination work very well for many years. It ran smooth throughout the 
throttle range, summer or winter, idled well and was easy to start. The only 
thing I did not like about it was using a speedometer cable to control the 
mixture. I like the robustness of the hardware on the Revflow. I am going to 
try one more time with the new needle, but I am getting all the parts 
together to use the Zenith again.  I want to fly the plane and not fixate so 
much on the carburetor. Right now I am afraid to go far from the airport. Of 
coarse I will have to do some glass work on the cowling to make the Zenith 
fit and come up with a mixture control for it, because it needs to hang 
lower under the engine.




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KR> flying, KR 19-8322

[robert gill]

I'd like to make a little comment about flying my KR2, Granted I have only 
clocked up 5 hrs on it now in the last 3 day since I started flying it myself, 
but all the hype i had read about while building it, with being a very 
sensitive if not over sensitive plane to fly is absolute rubbish! or I just got 
it right! I cant stay out of this thing!!! it has to be possibly the easiest 
plane I have ever flown! the mod to to stabilizer by stretching it's span 6" 
and cutting the span of the elevator down by 4" has really paid off! still 
light, powerful and responsive but by comparison to the fin and rudder which is 
pretty much stock to the plan very light and very easy to catch you out and to 
get in trouble with over control on the ground with the tail up, but comparison 
between elevator and rudder responses, elevator would be half as sensitive as 
the rudder but still just as powerful, if the rudder is anything to go by, If 
any one is like myself as a low time pilot and building one, I could not 
recommend anything better than the mods that Troy Petteway did to the tail, 
just wish I did it to the fin and rudder. Test pilot stated to me just before I 
flew for the first time that, he has never flown a plane that is so easy to 3 
point land! and he is right! I could only imagine how sensitive the elevator 
would be if done to the plans. Would be very nervy on the first couple of 
landings until you got used to it. 

KR> flying, KR 19-8322

[jeffyork40 at yahoo.com]

Robert, 

Great hearing your words. 

Jeff York
KR 2

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KR> flying, KR 19-8322

[brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com]

What gear do you have on it?  Three point landing is not the KRs strong
point unless your mains are a little longer to get closer to stall angle
of attack.


 Original Message 
Subject: KR> flying, KR 19-8322
From: robert gill 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sat, March 01, 2014 12:49 pm
To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 

I'd like to make a little comment about flying my KR2, Granted I have
only clocked up 5 hrs on it now in the last 3 day since I started flying
it myself, but all the hype i had read about while building it, with
being a very sensitive if not over sensitive plane to fly is absolute
rubbish! or I just got it right! I cant stay out of this thing!!! it has
to be possibly the easiest plane I have ever flown! the mod to to
stabilizer by stretching it's span 6" and cutting the span of the
elevator down by 4" has really paid off! still light, powerful and
responsive but by comparison to the fin and rudder which is pretty much
stock to the plan very light and very easy to catch you out and to get
in trouble with over control on the ground with the tail up, but
comparison between elevator and rudder responses, elevator would be half
as sensitive as the rudder but still just as powerful, if the rudder is
anything to go by, If any one is like myself as a low time pilot and
building one, I could not recommend anything better than the mods that
Troy Petteway did to the tail, just wish I did it to the fin and rudder.
Test pilot stated to me just before I flew for the first time that, he
has never flown a plane that is so easy to 3 point land! and he is
right! I could only imagine how sensitive the elevator would be if done
to the plans. Would be very nervy on the first couple of landings until
you got used to it. 
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KR> Flying high

[peter]

  Making a list of advantages vs disadvantages of flying high or low ondistance 
flying, I can't think of a single thing to put on the "low"list,

The view is always better down low, so if you're not going anywhere in 
particular, or are near a mountain Like volcanic Mt.Hood, or the pacific, whale 
watching...low is best. Also, approaching LAX or SFO along the coast, stay low 
and enjoy the VFR corridor. VFR traffic on the congested east coast also stays 
lower generally. Peter

KR> Flying High

[laser147 at juno.com]

Looks like the link got broken to the regulator info.  It's a DeVilbiss
PD1000.  

There were at least two other makers of pulse-dose regulators at the time
I got mine so there's several choices.  The PD1000 works extremely well
in my experience but I imagine the other ones are just as good.  

Mike
KSEE


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KR> Flying high

[laser147 at juno.com]

Brian said, 

"I think you have a lot of guts flying at the lower altitudes.  When I am
over 10,000' I can almost always glide to an airport or choose between
several.  At 3,500' you are looking for the best looking road and hoping
there are not power lines you can't see."

Amen.  Even more important if flying at night.  

Making a list of advantages vs disadvantages of flying high or low on
distance flying, I can't think of a single thing to put on the "low"
list, especially in a single.  Having an in-flight fire would certainly
be a disadvantage if up high but we can't base our flying decisions on
extremely unlikely events.  Might as well drive.

To keep from getting headaches I put in oxygen and to keep from getting
cold I put in cabin heat.  Oxygen also helps with clarity of thought
after a long day's travels up high, also with vision at night.  

My O2 system cost me about $100 buying on eBay.  I used an aluminum
medical "E" cylinder (24 cu. ft.) which I get filled at a local dive shop
for usually under $20.  It weighs 8 lbs and fits alongside the fuselage
behind the seat.  The regulator is a pulse demand type, also medical,
which only releases oxygen on the inhale.  I got it brand new for about
$35.  

http://www.devilbisshealthcare.com/products/oxygen-therapy/portable-oxyge
n/pulsedose

The "pulse dose" is adjustable with a dial.  Most conventional aviation
regulators are constant flow which wastes 2/3rds (or more) of the oxygen.
 Really dumb.  From the regulator comes a cannula which, as with my Halo
headset, is so light and unobtrusive I don't know I it on.   Sometimes I
only notice the cannula and the Halos is when trying to exit the cockpit
and realize I've got things attached to my head.  

Breathing oxygen makes a world of difference in my enjoyment of
travelling in the KR.  My last trip to the Gathering was using the O2 all
the way there and back.  I still had O2 remaining in the bottle upon my
return.  For any flying outside my local area, putting on the cannula has
become as routine as wearing my headset.

For those who prefer flying low to avoid headaches, putting oxygen in
needn't be an expensive proposition.  For those not near dive shops, a
friendly welding shop might fill your bottle, as will medical supply
shops.  You can get a prescription if necessary from your AME to make the
medical supply place happy but they are a last resort because of their
pricing.  

For anyone's interest, here's a Deakin article which I learned some
things from when researching this subject three or four years ago.  

http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182079-1.html?redirected=1


Mike Stirewalt
KSEE


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KR> Flying Video

[Lawrence Bell]

That looks real good and quite an inspiration. When is the gathering? Larry
Bell


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Robert7721  wrote:

> Looking good Marc!
>
> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Marc Baca  wrote:
>
> > KR folks;
> >
> > I'm still learning to fly my KR here at Chino Airport in California.  I
> hope to see many of you here at the coming KR Gathering.  Lately I've been
> working on finalizing some adjustments, repairs and minor modifications. I
> thought I'd share a flight video taken on my inexpensive dash cam. See link
> below.
> >
> > https://vimeo.com/82817972
> >
> > Thanks for all the ideas.
> >
> > Marc Baca
> > N13UG (Larry Buck KR-2)
> > N31SB  (Sam Bailey KR-1)
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KR> Flying Video

[Teate, Stephen]

If you want motivation, then look no further than Marc's video. Great job Marc. 
One of these days...

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc Baca
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 12:46 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Flying Video

KR folks;

I'm still learning to fly my KR here at Chino Airport in California.? I hope to 
see many of you here at the coming KR Gathering.? Lately I've been working on 
finalizing some adjustments, repairs and minor modifications. I thought I'd 
share a flight video taken on my inexpensive dash cam. See link below.

https://vimeo.com/82817972

Thanks for all the ideas.

Marc Baca
N13UG (Larry Buck KR-2)
N31SB? (Sam Bailey KR-1)
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KR> Flying a KR home after purchase

[Lee Parker]

It was flying. ?I think it had around seventy hours on it. ?It had damage to 
the left wing. ?The plane flew great before the damage.



On Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:41 PM, Carl Dow  wrote:

Amen!




On Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:23 PM, Mark Langford  wrote:

Randy Smith wrote:

> Why did he not fly it home??

I know Randy was kidding when he said this. I don't think Lee's plane was 
flying yet, although I could be wrong.

Lots of KRs have been totaled or substantially damaged by first flights on 
"pickup".? I could have easily become a statistic myself, and I consider 
myself to be a pretty good KR pilot.? You get a one-way airline ticket weeks 
in advance, and when you get there you're under pressure to fly it home, 
whether you (and it) are ready or not.? Although you could spend a few days 
going through it to see if it's airworthy, what you really need to do is 
trailer the thing home and go over it for several WEEKs, to make sure you 
know exactly how it operates, and if it's really safe to fly...with no 
pressure to fly it home right now.

If trailering a KR home from buying it sounds like a hassle, imagine the 
hassle of? being in the hospital for a few weeks because something didn't 
work exactly like you'd hoped or expected...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com



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KR> Flying a KR home after purchase

[Mark Langford]

Randy Smith wrote:

> Why did he not fly it home??

I know Randy was kidding when he said this. I don't think Lee's plane was 
flying yet, although I could be wrong.

Lots of KRs have been totaled or substantially damaged by first flights on 
"pickup".  I could have easily become a statistic myself, and I consider 
myself to be a pretty good KR pilot.  You get a one-way airline ticket weeks 
in advance, and when you get there you're under pressure to fly it home, 
whether you (and it) are ready or not.  Although you could spend a few days 
going through it to see if it's airworthy, what you really need to do is 
trailer the thing home and go over it for several WEEKs, to make sure you 
know exactly how it operates, and if it's really safe to fly...with no 
pressure to fly it home right now.

If trailering a KR home from buying it sounds like a hassle, imagine the 
hassle of  being in the hospital for a few weeks because something didn't 
work exactly like you'd hoped or expected...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> flying KR2 for sale

[Joe L.]

I ?am selling my KR2 after many years of ?flying enjoyment ? the plane can be 
seen on barnstormers under the listing for KR aircraft.The price is only 
$11.000 which is less than the kit and engine alone. I now fly a Mooney M20F 
which is the reason i am selling my KR. This is a excellent flying aircraft 
which will make someone a great plane. any questions call 207-794-6450 or 
207-745-7971 ? Kip

KR> Flying KRs in Los Angeles

[Lee Van Dyke]

How many flying KRs are in LA

Lee Van Dyke

On Mar 23, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Larry Flesner  
wrote:

> 
>> I like the method of oil on the floor with a separate sheet of aluminum 
>> under each main and rolling the a/c fwd/aft observing sheet displacement 
>> relative to the floor!
> +
> 
> That method might indicate some degree of misalignment but gives no 
> definitive information on how to correct the problem.  I'd prefer something a 
> bit more scientific.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> flying stories ?

[phillipmathe...@bigpond.com]

All the best Mark. Glad to hear you are OK.
I know just how you feel.
Sounds like similar damage as mine had.

They are a mighty aircraft, and easy to repair.

It will be interesting to see your next engine design.

Phil Matheson 

KR> flying stories ?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

How about a Single rotor Rotary ~100 Hp, Virg


On 12/27/2011 5:19 PM, cgardn628 wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Glad to hear you are okay after the scary #3 crankshaft incident!
>
> Maybe you'll reconsider the Type 4 VW that you were originally going to use
> in your KR2S.
>
> I also had a broken pushrod this year in my 2180 VW due a faulty end cap
> shattering in flight. Flying on 3 cylinders can be interesting as well but
> not as scary as a dead engine.
>
> Best Wishes for the holidays and hope to see everyone in the KR community at
> Oshkosh next year.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Gardiner
> KR2S C-GKRZ
>

KR> flying stories ?

[Tony King]

Glad to hear you're OK Mark.  I'm sure I won't be the only one watching
with interest to see what your next experimental is like - and what ideas
we can incorporate into our own projects.

Cheers,

Tony King
Queensland Australia

I've got a flying story for you, but I'm not sure if it'll be inspirational!
> If nothing else though, it shows how lots of deadstick landing practice
> (and
> prior experience) can pay off .  See http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/break3/
> for the details.  My apologies in advance for the disconcerting content.
>  No
> condolences required...I'm over it.
>
> Again, my apologies to the Corvair Community...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
>
>

KR> flying stories ?

[Gary Robison]

WOW.

Glad to hear your OK Mark...

I am just finishing up my new man cave and as you know
the wood "kit" was pick up during the last KR gathering.

I have gathered up three Corvair engines but I will await the
out come of this latest event before moving forward with them.


Mark, keep us informed about the crank  failure and about your
thoughts on your new project.



- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
>
> I've got a flying story for you, but I'm not sure if it'll be 
> inspirational!
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com

KR> flying stories ?

[Mark Langford]

Mike Sylvester wrote:

>>Where are all the inspirational flying stories that keeps the fires 
>>burning in all of us builders?  Come on guys, I know someone out there is 
>>doing more than sitting on the couch this winter. I've really enjoyed 
>>reading the exploits of the "Time machine, N56ML" and all the others ...<<

I've got a flying story for you, but I'm not sure if it'll be inspirational! 
If nothing else though, it shows how lots of deadstick landing practice (and 
prior experience) can pay off .  See http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/break3/ 
for the details.  My apologies in advance for the disconcerting content.  No 
condolences required...I'm over it.

Again, my apologies to the Corvair Community...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> Flying Stories

[Phillip Matherson]

Where are all the inspirational flying stories
-

What about the ones that almost stop us from flying again.

This is my Engine Failure on takeoff story. ( Third post luck, I cannot get
them to post to the net)

25th August approx 1730 Daylight saving time. Down under.

Take off RW 23,( sealed-crop duster strip lot of trees and houses) Full
power to about 400 feet about 1 mile from runway, no warning engine stopped
dead. Nowhere to go ahead 160dec turn to right to the only open field, tried
to start twice, tanks, fuel pump etc, nothing, by now low and fast. Trim,
slow down full flap, but running out of intended field. Had to decide to go
over or though the fence, went over, around a tree ( not good) then a
channel I had to STALL over the irrigation channel, I think the left wing
clipped the ground first ( now I was only along for the ride) then flipped
to L wing down, and nose wheel and Left main collapse and ground loop to the
left and stopped.

Someone was looking after me as it did not flip over. 

What did 007 say ? shaken and VERY stirred. 

Engine stoppage caused by the Electronic ign. wire inside the distributor
rubbed and shorted on the rotor.

Damage- nose wheel and one of three prop blades, Left main, 3 x broken bolts
and damage to underside of inner wing, the nose wheel folded back but sat
under the F/WALL and keep the nose up off the rough ground. What a very
strong little aircraft!!!

Lessons leant, forget restarting the engine twice and fly the plan, how many
times have we heard that Should have done a Mayday call, as if it had of
turned over, I could have been in trouble.


KR2 flying again.

But needs some underside and wingtip paint sometime.

Accident reports and inspections done.

Phil Matheson

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KR> flying stories ?

[Phillip Matherson]

Where are all the inspirational flying stories
-

What about the ones that almost stop us from flying again.

This is my Engine Failure on takeoff story.

25th August approx 1730 Daylight saving time. Down under.

Take off RW 23,( sealed-crop duster strip lot of trees and houses) Full
power to about 400 feet about 1 mile from runway, no warning engine stopped
dead. Nowhere to go ahead 160dec turn to right to the only open field, tried
to start twice, tanks, fuel pump etc, nothing, by now low and fast. Trim,
slow down full flap, but running out of intended field. Had to decide to go
over or though the fence, went over, around a tree ( not good) then a
channel I had to STALL over the irrigation channel, I think the left wing
clipped the ground first ( now I was only along for the ride) then flipped
to L wing down, and nose wheel and Left main collapse and ground loop to the
left and stopped.

Someone was looking after me as it did not flip over. 

What did 007 say ? shaken and VERY stirred. 

Engine stoppage caused by the Electronic ign. wire inside the distributor
rubbed and shorted on the rotor.

Damage- nose wheel and one of three prop blades, Left main, 3 x broken bolts
and damage to underside of inner wing, the nose wheel folded back but sat
under the F/WALL and keep the nose up off the rough ground. What a very
strong little aircraft!!!

Lessons leant, forget restarting the engine twice and fly the plan, how many
times have we heard that Should have done a Mayday call, as if it had of
turned over, I could have been in trouble.


KR2 flying again.

But needs some underside and wingtip paint sometime.

Accident reports and inspections done.

Phil Matheson


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KR> flying stories ?

[phillabaum...@aol.com]

Nice story Jeff,  Goes to say don't linger on the runway and always look for 
traffic, even while on the ground. They may not have a radio or might be tuned 
in wrong. Once I was doing engine out practice and while on short final a Lear 
taxied out onto the runway for take off. Good thing I could make the go around 
call. He answered back with "sorry" yet still beat me to the end of the runway.
Steve Phillabaum




-Original Message-
From: Jeff York <jeffyor...@yahoo.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 9:26 am
Subject: Re: KR> flying stories ?



lying stories,
This may not be a flying a KR story but, I had a KR in my plans and dreams at 
he time.
It was nearly 20 years ago when I was taking flying lessons that this 
nteresting flying event took place. I learned to fly in northern Indiana. The 
mall community airport I flew out of rarely if ever plowed the snow on the 
unways in the winter. On this very chilli morning I arrived at the airport to 
ind that the Cessna 152 I flew had the radios removed for service. So, I walked 
ack into the FBO with my head low because I figured there would be no flying 
or me today. I was greeted by a flight instructor and I informed her that there 
ere no radios in the 152 so I guess I couldn't fly. She quickly responded by 
aying no Jeff, you can fly without the radios because you will not be flying 
nto any controlled airspace and the regs do not require you to have them, so 
ou don't need them. So, I thought, ok. I am going flying. 
o, I jumped in the 152 fired her up and took off for a morning of building solo 
ime. 
hat morning the temps outside were about 10 below zero. The runways had several 
nches of packed snow and my trainer always told me to be very cautious with the 
se of brakes when on ice and snow.
o, being a young and dumb student, I took off knowing that local traffic would 
e light as I had often found myself to be the only one dumb enough to fly in 
ome of the weather conditions I flew in. Always VFR but sometimes right on the 
dge of barely being VFR or being extremely cold or windy. In other words, I 
igured it would be another day when I would be the only one flying.
ff I went with a heading northwest to our practice area.  So, I got settled in 
o enjoy the views of all the deep snow and the thrill of being in the air. But, 
s a dumb student pilot, I paid little attention to how far I had flown and 
uddenly found myself far outside my student area and I could see the Chicago 
kyline. Well, it was time to turn around and I had to radios to contact Chicago 
o I better get out of the area. 
o, here I am at about 4500 feet way outside my flying area and with no radios 
hen I decided , Hey ! I probably should start lowering my altitude in 
reparation for getting back toward my airports pattern altitude. 
o, I put in some carb heat, pull back on the throttle and suddenly the motor 
tarts shaking and the whole plane shakes so bad I can barely make out the 
anel. I check mixture, carb heat and throttle thinking maybe I have some carb 
ce but nothing seems to make the plane stop shaking. Well, full throttle seemed 
o get everything back in order so I continued on and decided the best way to 
et down was to do a series of dives then shallow them out until I got back down 
o pattern altitude by the time I made it back to my airport. I try a couple 
ore times to pull back on the throttle and I get the same bad results.
hen the thoughts came into my head. What if I got back to my airport and there 
ould be an airplane on the runway and I had an engine out and no radios to warn 
nyone ? What if anyone was out practicing and they might be back taxiing and I 
urn final and the engine quits ? 
ell, I get back to the airport, I am at pattern altitude when what do you know? 
here's the local flying clubs Piper 180 smack in the middle of the runway just 
itting still. 3000 feet of runway and I have about 1500 of ice covered runway 
o land and get stopped. Lets hope I dont loose the engine, lets hope I dont 
ver shoot my target landing point, lets hope they dont decided to turn around 
nd back taxi the active runway. 
ell, I held the power in long enough, its time to pull the power and hope for 
he best. Well, I put in carb heat. The plane starts shaking and then the motor 
uits. I remember my training which says, fly the plane. I dont have enough 
ltitude to really do a lot of checking and time to do much to attempt to 
estart the engine so I concentrate on flying and landing and keeping my eye on 
he piper 180 hoping it doesnt attempt to do a 180 back taxi and hoping I dont 
ver shoot and hoping I dont have to use much of my brakes on the icy snow 
overed runway. Here it goes God, be my co-pilot, since I have no radio, please 
llow me to land without that other plane turning around.
 come down, flare, cant see the Piper now so I can only hope it didnt start to 
ack taxi. I nail my target landing spot right

KR> flying stories ?

[Jeff York]

Flying stories,

This may not be a flying a KR story but, I had a KR in my plans and dreams at 
the time.

It was nearly 20 years ago when I was taking flying lessons that this 
interesting flying event took place. I learned to fly in northern Indiana. The 
small community airport I flew out of rarely if ever plowed the snow on the 
runways in the winter. On this very chilli morning I arrived at the airport to 
find that the Cessna 152 I flew had the radios removed for service. So, I 
walked back into the FBO with my head low because I figured there would be no 
flying for me today. I was greeted by a flight instructor and I informed her 
that there were no radios in the 152 so I guess I couldn't fly. She quickly 
responded by saying no Jeff, you can fly without the radios because you will 
not be flying into any controlled airspace and the regs do not require you to 
have them, so you don't need them. So, I thought, ok. I am going flying. 
So, I jumped in the 152 fired her up and took off for a morning of building 
solo time. 
That morning the temps outside were about 10 below zero. The runways had 
several inches of packed snow and my trainer always told me to be very cautious 
with the use of brakes when on ice and snow.
So, being a young and dumb student, I took off knowing that local traffic would 
be light as I had often found myself to be the only one dumb enough to fly in 
some of the weather conditions I flew in. Always VFR but sometimes right on the 
edge of barely being VFR or being extremely cold or windy. In other words, I 
figured it would be another day when I would be the only one flying.
Off I went with a heading northwest to our practice area.  So, I got settled in 
to enjoy the views of all the deep snow and the thrill of being in the air. 
But, as a dumb student pilot, I paid little attention to how far I had flown 
and suddenly found myself far outside my student area and I could see the 
Chicago skyline. Well, it was time to turn around and I had to radios to 
contact Chicago so I better get out of the area. 
So, here I am at about 4500 feet way outside my flying area and with no radios 
when I decided , Hey ! I probably should start lowering my altitude in 
preparation for getting back toward my airports pattern altitude. 
So, I put in some carb heat, pull back on the throttle and suddenly the motor 
starts shaking and the whole plane shakes so bad I can barely make out the 
panel. I check mixture, carb heat and throttle thinking maybe I have some carb 
ice but nothing seems to make the plane stop shaking. Well, full throttle 
seemed to get everything back in order so I continued on and decided the best 
way to get down was to do a series of dives then shallow them out until I got 
back down to pattern altitude by the time I made it back to my airport. I try a 
couple more times to pull back on the throttle and I get the same bad results.
Then the thoughts came into my head. What if I got back to my airport and there 
would be an airplane on the runway and I had an engine out and no radios to 
warn anyone ? What if anyone was out practicing and they might be back taxiing 
and I turn final and the engine quits ? 
Well, I get back to the airport, I am at pattern altitude when what do you 
know? There's the local flying clubs Piper 180 smack in the middle of the 
runway just sitting still. 3000 feet of runway and I have about 1500 of ice 
covered runway to land and get stopped. Lets hope I dont loose the engine, lets 
hope I dont over shoot my target landing point, lets hope they dont decided to 
turn around and back taxi the active runway. 
Well, I held the power in long enough, its time to pull the power and hope for 
the best. Well, I put in carb heat. The plane starts shaking and then the motor 
quits. I remember my training which says, fly the plane. I dont have enough 
altitude to really do a lot of checking and time to do much to attempt to 
restart the engine so I concentrate on flying and landing and keeping my eye on 
the piper 180 hoping it doesnt attempt to do a 180 back taxi and hoping I dont 
over shoot and hoping I dont have to use much of my brakes on the icy snow 
covered runway. Here it goes God, be my co-pilot, since I have no radio, please 
allow me to land without that other plane turning around.
I come down, flare, cant see the Piper now so I can only hope it didnt start to 
back taxi. I nail my target landing spot right on, avoid the temptation to slam 
on the brakes and hope that all the flaps and drag slow me down as I very 
slightly begin to apply the brakes. I get stopped, 10, 20 30 feet or more to 
spare. The Piper 180 is sitting there never aware of what was happening behind 
them. I open the door, fall to the ground, knees shaking from all the adrenalin 
and I kiss the snow and thank God for letting me make it even though I was to 
stupid to know better.
A couple of days later I return to the airport to get back in the saddle. When 
I arrive I am told the 

KR> flying stories ?

[Phillip Matherson]

Where are all the inspirational flying stories
-

What about the ones that almost stop us from flying again.

This is my Engine Failure on takeoff story.

25th August approx 1730 Daylight saving time. Down under.

Take off RW 23,( sealed-crop duster strip lot of trees and houses) Full
power to about 400 feet about 1 mile from runway, no warning engine stopped
dead. Nowhere to go ahead 160dec turn to right to the only open field, tried
to start twice, tanks, fuel pump etc, nothing, by now low and fast. Trim,
slow down full flap, but running out of intended field. Had to decide to go
over or though the fence, when over, around a tree ( not good) then a
channel I had to STALL over the irrigation channel, I think the left wing
clipped the ground first ( now I was only along for the ride) flipped to L
wing down, and nose wheel and Left main collapse and ground loop to the left
and stop.

Someone was looking after me as it did not flip over. 

What did 007 say ? shaken and VERY stirred. 

Engine stoppage caused by the Electronic ign. wire inside the distributor
rubbed and shorted on the rotor.

Damage- nose wheel and one of three prop blades, Left main broken bolts and
minor damage to underside of inner wing, the nose wheel folded back but sat
under the F/WALL and keep the nose up off the rough ground.

Lessons leant, forget restarting the engine twice and fly the plan, how many
times have we heard that Should have done a Mayday call, as if it had of
turned over, I could have been in trouble.


KR2 flying again.

But needs some underside and wingtip paint sometime.

Accident reports and inspections done.

Phil Matheson



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[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

I too have an autopilot installed in my KR2S but not flown yet. It is based on 
Dynon D180, a control head (cumbersome to operate directly from the D180) and 2 
capstan type servos. Will grab some shots soon and post on my blog.
Paul.
Brisbane Australia.

 Dene Collett  wrote: 
Hi Joe
I would be very interested to see some pics of your autopilot installation.
I could be wrong but I think you might be the first to install an autopilot
in a KR.

KR> flying stories ?-kinda long

[Dene Collett]

Hi Joe
I would be very interested to see some pics of your autopilot installation.
I could be wrong but I think you might be the first to install an autopilot
in a KR.
Good luck dealing with the feds.

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port Elizabeth 
South Africa
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KR> flying stories ?-kinda long

[MDKR2S]

>>Joe wrote:  The other thing that i have not fessed up to with all of you 
>>yet because i am not sure what the out come is going to be but I guess i 
>>am now officially a criminal. On the way home from Corvair College I 
>>busted the special use airspace around Washington DC.

I also busted the ADIZ (they have another term for it now) around DC last 
summer by a 1/2 mile while sightseeing around the western shore of the 
Chesapeake Bay.  When I got back to the airport, the airport manager had 
been called by Tracon and told me to call Tracon.  While on the phone with 
Tracon, the TSA had called the airport manager and left all kind of 
threatening messages about sending the police after me.  While I was talking 
to Tracon, TSA called them and Tracon relayed to them that I had busted it 
by less than a 1/2 mile and I must have realized what I had done since I had 
made a 180 deg turn...so Tracon thought that should be the end of it and to 
this day I have not heard another word.  But a word to the wise, these TSA 
guys are on steroids ( I have a stronger term but won't use it) about the 
air security around DC and one should give it a wide berth.  The Tracon guy 
told me that the "truth data" is radar, not your GPS, and not cut it so 
close.  So in actuality, you may be outside the ADIZ, but if they say you 
are in there, stand by for a lot of attention :)
r/Bernie
KR2S Builder/air space criminal
Lusby, MD 

KR> flying stories ?-kinda long

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

Hey Guys, I have been busy since coming back from Corvair College back in 
November, but manage to fly 2 to 4 hours a week. Our club goes to breakfast 
every Sunday morning. I guess the certified guys are starting to accept me as I 
have been taking someone different with me every week. The one week the VP of 
Lancair international sales went with his knock out gorgeous Evolution turbine. 
I took off right behind him and was surprised that I was keeping him in sight 
when I realized that he was catching up with each of the planes ahead of us and 
doing photos. But as i would just about catch the pair to join in he would jump 
out and was gone again. This went on for about 30 miles and several planes 
until he circled back for another shot at one of them and i took the 
opportunity to firewall it so that he had to add power to catch me (I knew he 
would) as he was just at idle to be slow enough to fly with all the Cessna's. I 
told the guy with me to watch because i thought that he would sneak up on us. A 
couple minutes latter i noticed I was a little left of course and just started 
to drift back to the right while i leaned over to check to see i was clear and 
there he was about 4 feet off my wing and about 2 feet above with one of those 
big grins on his face. What a cool picture it would have been. It really made 
it a fun flight with all the chatter from I think 10 planes that morning.
The other thing that i have been up to is i bought myself a Christmas present. 
I bought the servos for the dynon D10A and installed them a couple weeks ago. I 
started flying and testing and adjusting them last weekend. I have about 5 
hours with the Auto Pilot working now. I don't have the heading servo program 
all operating correctly yet but the Altitude works great. It is a real hoot. 
the Altitude hold is a great help it holds it with inn 10 feet all the time. 
The 180 degree turn button is a one shot button and is really cool just to play 
with. The bank angle is part of the program and with one push if your in a 
cloud in 90 seconds or less your headed back exactly where you came from and at 
the same exact altitude. The accent and decent rate works great and hits right 
on the target altitude. It now calculates the point when to start a decent when 
in a flight plan. I didn't buy the AP34 which is a separate control unit for 
the Dynon AP. I don't think it is to cumbersome just to use the buttons in the 
menu of the D10A. It does make it easier to change decent rates and altitude 
changes  but not a big deal. Just having fun with it for now. The other 
thing that i have not fessed up to with all of you yet because i am not sure 
what the out come is going to be but I guess i am now officially a criminal. On 
the way home from Corvair College I busted the special use airspace around 
Washington DC. The short of it is the course i had in the GPS had a turn point 
just inside because it was a point that was in the data bank. I was flying a 
course about 2 to 3 miles west of the GPs course line until about 30 miles 
south of it. I was at 11,500 and I ran out of O2 about a half hour into the 
flight. which means i was without supplemental O2 for about 1 1/2 hours. When i 
got close i started studying the maps again and the gps and for the life of me 
i could not figure out why i was going so far off to the west and actually 
argued myself into thinking that i had been flying the wrong course for the 
past 6 years. At the worst point i was about 1 1/2 miles in from the edge. Any 
way when i landed the FBO said i should call US Customs and they told me i was 
in trouble and had to call Tracon. While on the phone with Tracon 3 state 
police cars came zipping in and 4 officers. I'm still on the phone and the one 
young officer ask (a little excited) " are you the pilot, what did you do?" 
They didn't know what they were there for either. Anyway after it sunk in to me 
what i had done I came right home and wrote up a NASA report and the next day i 
got a call from the FISDO. I wrote a report to them and all the information and 
am just waiting now to see the outcome.Well is that enough stories -- all 
sad but trueJoe Horton,Coopersburg, PA.

53 Year Old Mom Looks 33
The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
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KR> flying stories ?

[Mike Sylvester]

Now that's what I'm talkin bout.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854



 Now I was really letting 
> out that yeehaaa as I was cooking across the ground. That was 
> the fastest ground speed I have ever seen in my KR in level flight. 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> flying stories ?

[Mark Jones]

Holy Cowit reached 39 degrees here today and I went flying. And a 
beautiful flight it was. Surface winds were 12 mph and were 5 degrees 
crosswind to runway 21 at Stevens Point. After my preflight and fuel 
acquisition, I taxied to 21 did my run up and firewalled her. She jumped 
right off the ground and like a homesick angel she climbed out of there. 
Almost a month without flying I let out a big yeehaa that could be 
heard round the world.yea right. Anyway, it was pretty bumpy on climb 
out till I reached 4000 and then it was smooth as glass. There were no other 
planes flying in my area which surprised me on such a nice day here. Then 
the strangest feeling came over me. I realized I ws hardly moving. A quick 
glance at the air speed indicator said I was doing 147 mph. I looked at the 
GPS and it said my ground speed was 89 mph. No wonder I felt like I was not 
moving. It was like being in a J3 Cub. What a hoot to fly so slow in a KR. A 
quick 180 degree turn and my GPS jumped to 205 mph. Now I was really letting 
out that yeehaaa as I was cooking across the ground. That was 
the fastest ground speed I have ever seen in my KR in level flight. That 
really made me want to go somewhere and get there fast. Too bad I did not 
have the time to take such a trip. Instead I just plyed around the sky doing 
wingovers, tight turns, roller coasters which lifted me out of my seat and 
just had fun with the high winds above. Time to come in so I set up a five 
mile final to 21 and it seemed like it took me forever to reach the runway. 
Not one of best landings as the sun was directly over my nose. I actually 
had the sun in my prop path as I touched down. Now that flickering of sun 
light through the prop was very distracting. My roll out was also short due 
to the winds. Overall, a great flight. God I love my KR and can't wait to 
fly her again.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> flying stories ?

[kr2coo...@comcast.net]

Mike ask: Where are all the inspirational flying stories that keeps the fires 
burning in all of us builders ? 

  

I have been reluctant to jump in on this because I'm not flying a KR but it is 
Experimental related. My friend and neighbor Mac built a RV9A but his health is 
such that he does not want to take a flight physical right now. Another mutual 
friend of ours who is a CFI and has a RV7 flew the test flight period on the 
Mac's 9. Now he is checking me out in the RV9A so that we can both help Mac and 
fly with him until he gets his health problems solved. In just over a week I 
have flown 5.5 hours in the RV and need to get 10 hours for Mac's insurance to 
cover me. Mac spared no expense on his airplane and so has all the latest 
Garmin and Dynon glass on the panel. How many two place single engine airplanes 
have you seen that have leather heated seats? My problem is I have always flown 
steam gauges and so trying to learn these new fangled video games has been a 
task for me. I do like the attitude indicator display but trying to interpret 
heading and altitude and airspeed without needles takes all my attention. I 
know those of you who fly glass panels regularly love them and would never want 
another steam gauge but it takes some getting used to. The RV has great climb 
and cruse performance and handles very good. My only complaint (I don't know if 
I'm complaining about myself or the airplane) I can't get full aft stick 
because of my fat belly and the five point harness the stick hits the harness 
buckle before it hits the stops. I do have the seat adjusted as far back as it 
will go. That's my flying story probably not very inspirational for a KR 
builder but at least I'm not growing roots on the couch.  Sorry to say that my 
KR is sitting in the basement looking lonesome and forgotten. I haven't worked 
on it since I bought the Grumman just over a year ago. The Grumman takes all my 
dollars and time but gives me a lot of flying pleasure in return. 

Jack Cooper 

Chuckey TN. 



- Original Message -

KR> flying stories ?

[Mike Sylvester]

Mark, With a heat wave all the way up to 32 deg. you better take the sunscreen 
and after you land you could get one of those fruity drinks with the little 
umbrella in it.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854



> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Sylvester
> 
> Where are all the inspirational flying stories that keeps the fires burning 
> in all of us builders ?
> 
> 
>  The 
> temp is going to reach 32 degrees and it is sunny. .
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> flying stories ?

[Mark Jones]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Sylvester

Where are all the inspirational flying stories that keeps the fires burning 
in all of us builders ?


Mike,
Unfortunately up here in the frozen tundra of Wisconsin the weather has not 
allowed me to do much flying. The last time I was in te air was Nov 22nd. 
With any luck, I will get to fly today as we are having a heat wave. The 
temp is going to reach 32 degrees and it is sunny. Feels like summer. Yea, I 
wish.



Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> flying stories ?

[Glenn Martin]

On 12/18/2011 7:28 AM, Mike Sylvester wrote:
> As for me, I'm going downstairs for a full day of sanding on the tail 
> feathers. And Merry Christmas to all.
Ive been LOVING the time spent sanding my KR..Getting to see whats 
underneith all that paint, doing inspections that give me faith in her 
basic structure. I'm slowly gettng there, at least to where i can begin 
gluing broken glue joints, and patching up fiberglass dings and cracks. 
The time just FLYS. BTW..Look for the news this afternoon here. My CFI 
told me that were going up at 3pm, and if it goes as well as it did 
yesterday, I'm gonna get my tailwheel endorsement. 

-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

KR> flying stories ?

[Mike Sylvester]

Sorry if you get this twice but it does'nt look like it went out yesterday when 
I first tried to send it. Straight to the question. Where are all the 
inspirational flying stories that keeps the fires burning in all of us builders 
? Come on guys, I know someone out there is doing more than sitting on the 
couch this winter. I've really enjoyed reading the exploits of the "Time 
machine, N56ML" and all the others that have gone through the tedious hours of 
sanding that are now enjoying flying their KRs'. As for me, I'm going 
downstairs for a full day of sanding on the tail feathers. And Merry Christmas 
to all.


Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854  

KR> flying stories ?

[Mike Sylvester]

Straight to the question. Where are all the inspirational flying stories that 
keeps the fires burning in all of us builders ? Come on guys, I know someone 
out there is doing more than sitting on the couch this winter. I've really 
enjoyed reading the exploits of the "Time machine, N56ML" and all the others 
that have gone through the tedious hours of sanding that are now enjoying 
flying their KRs'. As for me, I'm going downstairs for a full day of sanding on 
the tail feathers. And Merry Christmas to all.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854  

KR> Flying to the gatheing

[kr2coo...@comcast.net]

Flying to MVN from eastern US may be touch and go tomorrow. Hope that system 
keeps moving. 



http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx 



Jack Cooper 

Chuckey TN. 

KR> Flying Wild Alaska

[laser...@juno.com]

I was looking forward to it and IMHO it's watchable if you turn off the
sound.  The constant stream of blatent aeronautical misinformation,
artificial drama, and one of those announcers so common on TV these days
who can't speak in a normal tone of voice but instead seem to be trying
to breathlessly dramatize a scary story to a class of ten year olds . . .
not a great description but they're everywhere on TV it seems.  South
Park does a great parody of these clowns.  

I grew up in Alaska and learned to fly in Anchorage and the watching the
scenery, seeing familiar places,  is great.  Hard to mess that part of it
up.  I'll watch it again for sure, finger on the mute button as usual.  

Mike
KSEE





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KR> Flying Wild Alaska

[Mark Jones]

Tonight on Discovery Channel a new series premiers called "Flying Wild Alaska". 
This should be a really good show for us pilots as it is focused on flying. It 
will air every Friday night. Just thought you would like to know about this.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> flying KR's with 90 degree corners

[Dan Heath]

I don't believe there are any, at least, I have never seen one and have been
to a lot of KR Gatherings over the years.  Also never heard of any like that
being completed, on the KR Net.  Maybe that says something about the
building time or difficulty, who knows.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

I'd be grateful if others who have built this way could chime in and  
let me know how well this has worked for you.  I'd also be interested  
in seeing photos of flying KR's with 90 degree corners.

KR> Flying Video

[Jon Finley]

Hi all,



I apologize if you get this more than once, I have posted it to a couple
different groups. Also, the video was taken from my Q2 so it really has
nothing to do with KR's.  However; I thought it might serve as motivation to
someone to get busy on your KR!!  I guess it did for me as I spent most of
Saturday afternoon glassing on my KR2S (taking advantage of some warm
outside weather).



This year's video attempts have all been miserable failures.  I cannot seem
to get a camera mount position that I like or footage that is very good
(using my shoestring budget camera).  I tried again this past Friday and
Saturday on the way to/from breakfast and got some footage that I almost
like.  It is far from good quality but maybe someone will enjoy it.  I am
still (occasionally) working on better...  My editing skills are also low
but I am slowly learning - don't expect Hollywood quality.



Two videos:

1. Some hill flying footage. http://www.vimeo.com/17481531



2. Footage of the tight traffic pattern than I mentioned in an email a
couple of weeks ago. http://www.vimeo.com/17482681

This was made as a result of an email I sent to the Quickie guys encouraging
them NOT to fly 747 patterns (long story,  it seems a great many pilots like
to do that...).



Enjoy,



Jon Finley

N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

[Larry Flesner]

At 07:03 AM 10/25/2010, you wrote:
>>I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.
>
>
>
>Thought you might enjoy something I wrote a few years back after a 
>night flight.
>
>Larry Flesner


never mind.  I forgot to change the address..


Larry Flesner

KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

[Larry Flesner]

At 04:24 PM 10/24/2010, you wrote:

>I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.



Thought you might enjoy something I wrote a few years back after a 
night flight.

Larry Flesner 
-- next part --

KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

[Tim]

LSS...(Long Story Short) >

Winter 90's ...Dark 'Moonless' Night...I also said Goodnight to the Tower, 
heading for our Regional Airport.Moments/seconds later, Engine quit, 
IA/SOP Hit the primer, engine fired, then QuitAgain.Shizen!!!> 
Primer a Wet Noodle (no resistance)

Only -20F  trees directly belowEver heard the sound of  frozen tree tops 
hitting your' fuselage bottom?. Oh, I'm I'm typing this from another 
place...'Canada'

CldLk-TimRemember there's never nuf 100LL,  unless yer in a/that Fire 
:-)

- Original Message - 
/Tom" 


I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.

The tower didn't even bother to say 'taxi to parking this frequency'. I 
forgot to say 'goodnight tower' but maybe that would've made them sleepy.

I'll go somewhere else next time the moon comes around.

KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

[Bob Buzby]

that is: beyond perfect...   and perfectly beyond......Thank You for your 
written bliss...

> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:24:57 -0700
> From: ttcsem...@yahoo.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon
> 
> 
> I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.   I haven't done night 
> flying in many years and can't remember ever flying with a full-moon (in a 
> civilian aircraft).  I tried a couple nights ago but between the time I 
> started my preflight and was ready to climb in for the start the weather went 
> from beautiful moon-light skies to overcast.   And I'm not slow! 
>  
> Last night was perfect.  Skies mostly clear and light and variable surface 
> winds.At around 10pm on this Saturday evening the radio traffic on tower 
> frequency was very light.My airport destination on the eastern plains of 
> Colorado was approx 55 N.miles at 101 degrees Mag Heading.   It was very 
> smooth and found I had a 20mph tailwind at about 2000agl.  The skies seemed 
> to belong to me with almost no air traffic to be seen.It seemed there was 
> plenty of highway traffic far off into the distance.I had the desire to 
> keep flying far into the night and would've if I could only tune into AM 
> radio to keep me company.
>  
> Nearing my destination I keyed 122.9 a few times and the runway lights 
> illuminated.  Coming overhead I could see the nearby Wendy's - convenience 
> store and trinket shop complex was already closed but there was another 
> convience store - gas station open across the street.   Descending into the 
> pattern I could see my moonshine shadow on the empty fields below.  I greased 
> the landing, as usual,  but at the ramp I could find no tiedown ropes or 
> chains whatsoever!   I taxied around in circles looking but found none.  
> With the lack of surface winds and apparent stable weather I decided I could 
> chance it without tying-down.  I parked next to the the only other aircraft 
> on the ramp which was chained down.  HIs windscreen was covered with dew and 
> I wondered if that would happen to my little bird.   It was approaching 
> midnight.
>  
> I walked that 1/2mile in the cold darkness to the convenience store, bought 
> goodies and coffee and headed back.   As I walked along the road some 
> country-guy stopped to offer me a ride in his pickup truck but I told him 
> "I'm just going over to the airport", pointing. 
>  
> I climbed aboard, settled things in, fired it up and continued.I could 
> kiss my motor as it runs so nicely.Taxiing toward a place for runup I 
> passed a tiedown spot with chains.  Curse.  I was concerned about having 
> enough runway to get off so on the roll I gave it 10 degrees of flaps as the 
> book suggests.   My cup of coffee was parked between my legs.  My plane 
> (bluebird) floated off nicely and climbed out over the dark treeless 
> countryside.   Turning left toward home I passed a truck-packed truck-stop 
> after a mile.   I broke out the sandwich and enjoyed the ride and view, 
> steering with my rudder pedals.
>  
> I  kept it a lower altitude to avoid the winds aloft.   I practiced some 
> instrument flying and may as well have been in a simulator as it was so 
> smooth.I passed by some car with headlights on in the middle of a large 
> field and wondered what was going on there.  
>  
> Fast-forward,  arrived at my destination, squeeked it on again made the first 
> turnoff onto the ramp and my nearby parking spot.  The tower didn't even 
> bother to say 'taxi to parking this frequency'.I forgot to say 'goodnight 
> tower' but maybe that would've made them sleepy.
>  
> I'll go somewhere else next time the moon comes around.  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>   
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KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

[ttcse/Tom]

I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.   I haven't done night 
flying in many years and can't remember ever flying with a full-moon (in a 
civilian aircraft).  I tried a couple nights ago but between the time I started 
my preflight and was ready to climb in for the start the weather went from 
beautiful moon-light skies to overcast.   And I'm not slow! 
 
Last night was perfect.  Skies mostly clear and light and variable surface 
winds.    At around 10pm on this Saturday evening the radio traffic on tower 
frequency was very light.My airport destination on the eastern plains of 
Colorado was approx 55 N.miles at 101 degrees Mag Heading.   It was very smooth 
and found I had a 20mph tailwind at about 2000agl.  The skies seemed to belong 
to me with almost no air traffic to be seen.    It seemed there was plenty of 
highway traffic far off into the distance.    I had the desire to keep flying 
far into the night and would've if I could only tune into AM radio to keep me 
company.
 
Nearing my destination I keyed 122.9 a few times and the runway lights 
illuminated.  Coming overhead I could see the nearby Wendy's - convenience 
store and trinket shop complex was already closed but there was another 
convience store - gas station open across the street.   Descending into the 
pattern I could see my moonshine shadow on the empty fields below.  I greased 
the landing, as usual,  but at the ramp I could find no tiedown ropes or chains 
whatsoever!   I taxied around in circles looking but found none.  With the 
lack of surface winds and apparent stable weather I decided I could chance it 
without tying-down.  I parked next to the the only other aircraft on the ramp 
which was chained down.  HIs windscreen was covered with dew and I wondered if 
that would happen to my little bird.   It was approaching midnight.
 
I walked that 1/2mile in the cold darkness to the convenience store, bought 
goodies and coffee and headed back.   As I walked along the road some 
country-guy stopped to offer me a ride in his pickup truck but I told him "I'm 
just going over to the airport", pointing. 
 
I climbed aboard, settled things in, fired it up and continued.    I could kiss 
my motor as it runs so nicely.    Taxiing toward a place for runup I passed a 
tiedown spot with chains.  Curse.  I was concerned about having enough runway 
to get off so on the roll I gave it 10 degrees of flaps as the book suggests.   
My cup of coffee was parked between my legs.  My plane (bluebird) floated off 
nicely and climbed out over the dark treeless countryside.   Turning left 
toward home I passed a truck-packed truck-stop after a mile.   I broke out the 
sandwich and enjoyed the ride and view, steering with my rudder pedals.
 
I  kept it a lower altitude to avoid the winds aloft.   I practiced some 
instrument flying and may as well have been in a simulator as it was so smooth. 
   I passed by some car with headlights on in the middle of a large field and 
wondered what was going on there.  
 
Fast-forward,  arrived at my destination, squeeked it on again made the first 
turnoff onto the ramp and my nearby parking spot.  The tower didn't even bother 
to say 'taxi to parking this frequency'.    I forgot to say 'goodnight tower' 
but maybe that would've made them sleepy.
 
I'll go somewhere else next time the moon comes around.  
 
 
 
 

KR> flying kr's

[STEVE bennett]

To some degree, flying a KR for the first time is kind of like bowling.  A 
little right or left curve on the ball, a little top or bottom english, all can 
change the direction of  a KR.  Think right or left and it goes, not much stick 
movement.  Up takes some movement of the stick, down - not much, just move your 
head or body forward.  An aerial sports car indeed they are!  The aircraft is 
shorter coupled than certified aircraft.  Length and width.  Full span ailerons 
in a stiff cross wind, can be at best teasing.  If you want to hop and skip 
sideways across a runway, try a 15 mph direct crosswind on landing until it is 
planted.  Tail wheel slides can happen, main gear skips, all you will learn to 
deal with in your current flying time.  Its a great aircraft to fly, learn 
about flying, meat a great group of like minded friends and have ton's of fun 
with.  Several K hours of KR fun to date and more to come!
Steve

















1

Steve Bennett

Great Plains Aircraft

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KR> Flying to the Gathering

[Larry Flesner]

My problem in the charging system is corrected and I intend to leave 
early Thursday morning and fly to the Gathering.  After ordering a 
new regulator I found an in line connector that I had overlooked and 
it appears that was the problem.  I installed the new regulator 
anyway as the company suggests hardwiring the unit into the system 
and I didn't want to wire in a 10+ year old regulator and take the 
chance on having to do it all over again.  The new regulator also 
gives me a 1 volt higher charging rate.  I might have a problem with 
my backup battery but $50 at Auto Zone will correct that 
problem.  I'm down to fill up, pack up, one more sleep, and boogy 
!!!   YEE HAAA

Larry Flesner

KR> Flying/Building:

[Howard Goodwin]

Fellow Net Heads:

My KR had a incident.
While landing on my 1600ft/very wet grass strip, at 75 mph, board down, greased 
it,had at least 2/3
of the strip left for stoppingwell you guessed it Smooth tires and wet 
grass/sliding like they were having fun,
I over ran the smooth grass and got into the rough. An old stump, about 3"s 
high caught my right gear and spun me
around...Resulting in busting the gear and my prop ...Damn!
This is not the story that I intended to bring to the gathering, but it is what 
it is.
Looks like Dan has it right about the building/flying timeNow I am building 
again and looking for parts. 
It would be great to see a complete Diehl gear assy. on the "for sale" table at 
the gathering.  
Am not sure what I am going to find when I examine the 1835 vw crankshaft.
See you in Richmond.


Howard Goodwin
Washington, N.C.
N742HG/N21KW
Just Passin Thru..

KR>Flying KR-2 cheap!

[John Bouyea]

Jim is trying to sell one of his 2 KRs.  He forgot to mention photos are
available here; http://www.bouyea.net/classifieds/index.htm

John Bouyea
HIO/ KR2 "getting close!"



From: "Jim Sellars" jsell...@keybase.com
Subject: RE: KR>Flying KR-2 cheap!

Friends;
I need to sell one of two KR-2s in my hanger. They are both flying airplanes
and I will accept any reasonable offer.
1. KR-2 Subaru powered, this is a purpose built engine with 10.5 hours on a
tail dragger with radio VFR instruments, and GPS. Cheap, like $10,500. or
any reasonable offer. We will ship!
2. KR-2 Saturn powered with Radio VFR instruments, GPS and Mode "C", cheap,
Make and offer and get a flying version of the popular little bird. 

KR>Flying KR-2 cheap!

[Jeff York]

OK, I am not in the market to buy another KR-2 right now but you mentioned one 
of them as being Saturn powered. I have never heard of anyone doing a Saturn 
engine conversion for an experimental. I would love to see pics of that.

Jeff York
KR-2 N839BG
Lexington, KY. Georgetown Scott County Airport hanger A-5

KR>Flying KR-2 cheap!

[Jim Sellars]

Friends;
I need to sell one of two KR-2s in my hanger.  They are both flying
airplanes and I will accept any reasonable offer.  
1. KR-2 Subaru powered, this is a purpose built engine with 10.5
hours on a tail dragger with radio VFR instruments, and GPS.  Cheap, like
$10,500.  or any reasonable offer.  We will ship!
2. KR-2 Saturn powered with Radio VFR instruments, GPS and Mode "C",
cheap, Make and offer and get a flying version of the popular little bird.  
For more info email me and I will supply pictures of both.  
Or phone, collect!  
James Sellars,BA (Econ), CFP, 
Financial Advisor
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KR> Flying KR-2 on Barnstormers $9.5

[Tim]

KR2 - FUN AND FAST . $9,500 . WIFE SAYS SELL IT! . Revmaster VW2100, adjustable 
3-blade prop, 118 TTAE, main and long-range tanks, fixed spring gear goes 
anywhere, hydraulic toe-brakes, flaps, full electric, nav, strobes, ELT. 
Cockpit heat and fresh air, cold-weather start kit. All logs, plans, manuals. 
Basic panel, dual 12V ports. Interior awaits your custom appointments and trim. 
Light, responsive, easy to fly; cruise solo 170 IAS stall 50, 3.8 gph 100LL. 
Hangared at F45 West Palm Beach, FL. This KR2 has ramp appeal and is ideal for 
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KR> New KR flying vids on YouTube There's a BD5 there too.

[phil brookman]

great vids but the musicon one of them yuck





From: Darren Crompton <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:30:38 AM
Subject: KR> New KR flying vids on YouTube There's a BD5 there too.

Great vids Dave!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WMIB5xbdAI

http://www.youtube.com/user/verticalavionics#p/a/u/1/EPGV3fxPuHc



Cheers
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KR> New KR flying vids on YouTube There's a BD5 there too.

[Darren Crompton]

Great vids Dave!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WMIB5xbdAI

http://www.youtube.com/user/verticalavionics#p/a/u/1/EPGV3fxPuHc



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KR> Flying KR - Second Try

[Ray Fuenzalida]

I see your note that you are looking for a flying project.  Sorry, I have a 
"work in progress".  But if you would like to come see that, my project is in 
Reserve (between baton Rouge and New Orleans).
You just missed the KR gathering.  That's where all of your questions would 
have been answered.  Good luck.
Ray
New Orleans

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From: s voth <vo...@hotmail.com>
Subject: KR> Flying KR - Second Try
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 4:22 PM



My first email was unclear.
I'm looking for a flying KR within 500 miles of my area in order to get a close 
look, and hopefully get a ride in.

I will consider owning a KR after I see a few. 

I'm on vacation for the next 14 days, so weather permitting I could fly just 
about anywhere to check out a plane.
Please let me know if your interested in showing off your plane, and where your 
located.
I'm in Southwest Louisiana.
Thanks,
Stephen Voth
Lake Charles, LA

              
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KR> Flying KR - Second Try

[Jeff York]

Stephen,
 
M y plane is located just outside of Lexington Kentucky at Georgetown airport.
 
I am not sure if you have ever seen a KR from your email. I can save you time 
if you are wondering about what type of KR you are looking for. I would suggest 
that you look at the pictures of my plane on the KRNET. Upon closer inspection 
(if you have seen other KR's) you will see that my KR is probably one of if not 
the nicest one out there. It is also not going to be anywhere near the 
cheapest. 
 
I am just trying to be upfront. Some people are looking for a KR for a very 
inexpensive plane. I just want to be upfront, if you are looking for a very 
nice home built and that is your budget, then you would want to consider mine 
further.
 
I am not sure how tall you are or your size. KR's are small and tend to be for 
pilots of 6'2" or less. 
 
My KR has KIing Radios. a full strobe nav lighting, ELT, Color GPS, GP- 2180 
motor, and a full VFR panel. Again, look at the pics on the KRNet.
 
This was a no expense built plane down to the automotive 3 stage and mirror 
finished paint and custom graphics to a professional custom interior. Not your 
common KR.
 
BUt, if you want a show piece attention getting fast KR, take a look.
 
Jeff

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From: s voth <vo...@hotmail.com>
Subject: KR> Flying KR - Second Try
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:22 PM



My first email was unclear.
I'm looking for a flying KR within 500 miles of my area in order to get a close 
look, and hopefully get a ride in.

I will consider owning a KR after I see a few. 

I'm on vacation for the next 14 days, so weather permitting I could fly just 
about anywhere to check out a plane.
Please let me know if your interested in showing off your plane, and where your 
located.
I'm in Southwest Louisiana.
Thanks,
Stephen Voth
Lake Charles, LA

              
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KR> Flying KR - Second Try

[s voth]

My first email was unclear.
I'm looking for a flying KR within 500 miles of my area in order to get a close 
look, and hopefully get a ride in.

I will consider owning a KR after I see a few. 

I'm on vacation for the next 14 days, so weather permitting I could fly just 
about anywhere to check out a plane.
Please let me know if your interested in showing off your plane, and where your 
located.
I'm in Southwest Louisiana.
Thanks,
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KR> Flying KR

[s voth]

Hi,

I'm new to the list, and am looking for a flying KR within 500 miles of my 
area. I'm very interested, but have only seen pictures. 

I've contacted Rick Human in the Houston area, but his is down for a condition 
inspection. Hopefully I'll get to see Rick's plane in the near future.

I'm on vacation for the next 14 days, so weather permitting I could fly just 
about anywhere to check out a plane.

Please let me know if your interested in showing off your plane, and where your 
located.

I'm in Southwest Louisiana.

Thanks,

Stephen Voth

Lake Charles, LA

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KR> Flying again

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> Raising the RPM has a direct affect on the EGT, so I am being
> cautious about that, as 1275 is a bit high even though the other temps are
> good.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over those EGT temps.  In fact, I'd pull the 
mixture knob a bit and quit burning so much fuel, personally!  Now that may 
be irresponsible on my part (especially since you are still working through 
the problems), and it does matter how far downstream from the exhaust valves 
your EGT probes are, but on my engine, that'd be pretty cool EGTs.  I don't 
ever "worry" about my EGTs, but if it were 1400F I might think about 
throttling back a tad, but that's pretty rare (the 1400F, not the throttling 
back!)...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 

KR> Flying again

[Dan Heath]

Today, I got up and saw a 15 degree spread in the dew point and knew it was
going to be the day.  The last 3 weekends have either found me not feeling
too good, or the weather not very nice for flying.  So, I took a couple
hours off work and left these bonds of earth for a while.  The engine
performed better than ever, with not even the slightest hiccup.  It was a
real pleasure.  I just flew around the area to build confidence and a bit of
flight time on me and the plane.  I think the weather is going to remain the
same for the next few days, so work will have to do without me in the
mornings this week.



It was around 75 degrees OAT and my 2276 VW turning 3200 RPM, produced
around 135 MPH ( no wheel fairings yet ), with CHT of 320, OT of 180, and a
EGT of 1275.  Raising the RPM has a direct affect on the EGT, so I am being
cautious about that, as 1275 is a bit high even though the other temps are
good.



So, if I am not stuck in jury duty, the Black Bird and I will see you at the
Gathering.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

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the pics 

KR> Flying Today ?

[MICHAEL SYLVESTER]

Dana ask. Anyone flying today ?
 It was so beautiful this mourning I jokingly ask the wife to go flying with me 
(She's always declined in the past.) To my stunned amazement she said, sure. So 
we spent the day up over Lake Guntersville in our 150 and then stopped in at 
Sammy's Touch And Go restaurant at Pell City (KPLR) for an early dinner. Life 
is good. 
Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

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KR> flying today

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

Dana,
I thought I might see you today at the Virginia regional at SFQ. It was a 
beautiful day and they had a great turn out with some beautiful planes. Yes I 
did forget my camera. But I did get another 4.3 hours and great flying weather 
and for the corvair 5th bearing conversation I turned over a hundred hours on 
Dan's 5th bearing and nearly 400 hours on the high volume oil pump.
Happy flying Guys,
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KR> Fw: Re: CorvAircraft> KR flying

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

I did get to Johnson city, There was no fuel, pot holes that I thought was 
going to break the gear off and rebar sticking up all over in the ramps, no one 
around and it all around sucked. I took off down wind just so I didn't have to 
back taxi the runway. Went straight to Elizebethton and had the exact oppisite 
experience, linemen meet me, parked me, chocked the plane borought the fuel 
right over and had several very pleasant conversations with the locals as they 
drooled over my KR and envied the fuel burn.
   I had a great time at Jack's on Saturday even though I was a little bit out 
of it. I choose not to have my morning coffee for the long flight and that was 
a mistake. I had a terrible headach all day. Had a coffee at home and it went 
away instantly. 
Mark is documenting the fuel stuff pretty well and I can echo most of his 
results. The 3050 rpm number is something that I have found to like also for 
cruise speed and it translates to just under 153 mph for my plane. This trip I 
was slightly under that as I have the nose wheel pant off right now. That seems 
to cost 3.5 mph and who knows how much fuel. I flew somewhere close to 1100 
miles on Saturday and burned about 36 gals for the total trip. that includes 
all the long climbs and high speed passes. Just about 30mpg over all not just 
what is for the cruise part of the flight.
You guys better watch flying with Langford,  he is a bad influence, Trying to 
keep up with him on arrival he had me doing 205 on the arrival anouncement 
missed approach., I really should have done a slow pass then to have Jack look 
to make sure I still had landing gear.
See ya'll at SNF on thursday
Joe Horton

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From: Dan Rogers <dns...@gmail.com>
To: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft <corvaircr...@mylist.net>
Subject: Re: CorvAircraft> KR flying
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:22:37 -0500

I found Hensley Airpark on Google.  It is just down the road a piece 
from where I learned to fly in Elizabethton.  (33 years ago this 
summer)  If you really want to get near the junction of TN, VA, and NC 
you need to go to Johnson County Airport in Mountain City, TN.

Dan Rogers

Mark Langford wrote:
> NetHeads,
>
>
>
> Tomorrow I plan to meet Joe Horton at Jack Cooper's new place up near the 
> junction of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina (04TN) for lunch. For Joe 
> it'll probably be at least a $200 hamburger.   I'm looking forward to meeting 
> up with them, and am already offering gifts to the weather gods for the 
> opportunity  It'll be great to visit with them both.
>
>  
>   

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KR> KR flying

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

I've been flying the crap out of my plane on the few days that have permitted 
it since I've been home.  Most days have been raining, windy, or downright 
tornadic.  I went out to fly Wednesday and the windsock was gone completely.  
Nobody knew where it went, but it's probably in Tennessee somewhere...maybe 
Kentucky.  I was just happy my hangar was still there.  Speaking of TN, I flew 
up to Murphreesboro yesterday to see the tornado path.  It's pretty easy to 
spot...just look for the blue FEMA tarps on all the roofs!  I "needed" to fly 
somewhere, and that's about all I could come up with.  It was good for five 
more crosscountry landings in the logbook though.

Today was supposed to be windy, but it turned out to be a perfect flying day, 
with only 5 mph winds late in the day.  I spent a lot of time at FYM practicing 
engine out landings and recalibrating my airspeed indicator with the GPS with 
the nice long runway, so I'd know the exact error at the low end of the scale 
(7 mph) is still the same.  I flew a couple of hours Wednesday, and when I 
landed I realized I'd never gone over 1000' AGL.  What a hoot of time I had, I 
have to tell ya!  Right now I have at least one bug splatter per square inch on 
the wing leading edges.  They'll probably be there until the day before I fly 
to the Gathering in September.

Tomorrow I plan to meet Joe Horton at Jack Cooper's new place up near the 
junction of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina (04TN) for lunch. For Joe 
it'll probably be at least a $200 hamburger.   I'm looking forward to meeting 
up with them, and am already offering gifts to the weather gods for the 
opportunity  It'll be great to visit with them both.

  I finally took the time to install the 406 Mhz ELT tonight, and it only took 
about 30 minutes.  The aft deck was off in under a minute, although it did take 
me three or four minutes to put it back on.   The rest of the time was spent on 
testing the installation.   I used the direct replacement Ameri-King 451.  
Maybe they'll find me a little quicker now.

What a great smooth day for flying.  You guys don't know what you're missing.  
I wish I could make SNF and Pete's and Ron's Wings and Wheels thing, but I'll 
be back in the UK.  Please support the Wings and Wheel thing.  It's always good 
fun, and you get to see perfect Corvairs, stuff like 140 HP trikes, and meet 
other Corvair powered airplane guys, not to mention the grass field 
experience...


Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 

KR> Flying Update

[Mark Jones]

I have just returned from yet another beautiful flight in the Wisconsin skies. 
The wind is right down the runway at 11 mph and the skies are clear. The 
horizon was visible 360°. I now have 3.1 flight hours on the engine since it 
was rebuilt. So far all is perfect except when I checked the belly of the plane 
after this flight there was a stream of oil running about four feet back. I 
noticed on my last 30 minute flight that I was getting some oil leakage from 
around the front seal of the fifth bearing. I have not pulled the cowl yet to 
check this leak out but I have a feeling that this is the culprit. I will let 
you know for sure as soon as I can. What a blast the KR is to fly so all you 
guys keep building and you too will be making posts like this soon.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> flying two-up

[Oscar Zuniga]

To continue the thread that Mark commented on (solo vs. two-up),
there've been plenty of discussions in the past and an archive
search will turn up enough to keep you reading for hours.  I'll
throw in my own comments, along with the understanding that my
Pietenpol is open-cockpit, which makes it a whole different animal
when taking passengers up.  Either they love open cockpit or they
hate it, but in either case the front cockpit is not someplace you
want to spend hours sitting in.

I'd say that 95% of my flying in the Piet is solo, despite the
fact that I welcome passengers and it's great fun to go up in a
low 'n' slow airplane like this.  Strictly pleasant weather
flying, VFR only, so anytime I go up I've already eliminated
many of the factors that create hesitancy in a passenger.
However, the airplane would be considerably more competent as
a single-place.  I could dispense with the extra controls and
front windscreen (not a big deal, but still); I'd have room for
honest baggage, to the tune of up to 200 lbs. of it if I could
stuff it in the front hole, I could do away with the front
seatbelts and shoulder harness that tend to foul my rudder pedals
and feet if I don't remove them when flying solo, and I could
provide a cover over the front cockpit and eliminate some of the
cold drafts when I fly it solo in colder times.  For the other 5%
of my flying, it would be just too bad that I couldn't introduce
people to the joys of flight, couldn't check them out in the
airplane, and couldn't take anyone along as a check pilot for
experimenting with anything or taking photos.

The case for the single-place is pretty strong.

Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
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website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[Randy Smith]

I have landed in the water with a KR2. Retracts where down and locked and no 
real time to bring them up. My glide was 60 mph just before I hit the water I 
pulled all the way back on the stick. I hit the water at about 40 to 45 mph. 
From inside it did not seem like much ( except for the bruise across my chest 
from the shoulder belt) from the outside all that watched said I put up a 30 
foot splash. The plane did not flip over. After I got out the plane nosed down 
because the cg changed. We tied a rope to what was left of the prop and pulled 
it out. I had the plane flying again in about 3 weeks.

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From: John Gotschall <johng...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Flying milkstools and idiots
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 7:48 PM

I haven't seen any mention of it, so I'll mention it:  For those of us
who live near alot of water, retracts are best for a water landing, or
perhaps landing on frozen cornfields (john S. did that), probably for a
muddy field too.

jg

N611GB
Puyallup WA



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KR> flying KR photo for www.KRnet.org?

[Mark Langford]

It's been a while since I've updated the photos on www.KRnet.org.  Anybody 
have any good flying KR photos that I can put out there?  KRs from outside 
the U.S. are welcome also.

Thanks,

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
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KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[Phil Matheson]

I have never taken offence to the nose vs. tail wheel before but
your tone is absolutely arrogant

I do take offence to your comments.

MY view is opposite to yours but I would never say what you did to anyone on 
this list


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

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KR> Flying Milkstools

[ColdLake-Tim]

Actually Mark mentioned or a small 'snip' of previous email.Which is 
exactly what the last two emails were? & Funny besides :-)

CL-Tim


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Subject: KR> Flying Milkstools



And why are you Luddites with the tender egos still re-posting
everything.  Weren't Mark's instructions clear enough?

I swear, ten year olds do better.

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KR> Flying Milkstools

[laser...@juno.com]

And why are you Luddites with the tender egos still re-posting
everything.  Weren't Mark's instructions clear enough?

I swear, ten year olds do better.  

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KR> Flying milkstools

[laser...@juno.com]

"your tone is absolutely arrogant"

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say much for your security level.  

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KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[John Gotschall]

I haven't seen any mention of it, so I'll mention it:  For those of us
who live near alot of water, retracts are best for a water landing, or
perhaps landing on frozen cornfields (john S. did that), probably for a
muddy field too.

jg

N611GB
Puyallup WA

KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[Jeff Scott]

I probably hand out as much ribbing about airplane training wheels and such as 
anyone, and 8 of the 9 planes I have owned so far have been tail draggers; 
However I have to agree with Joe here.  If a guy want's a nose gear on his 
plane cause that's what he's comfortable with, then by all means, he should 
build it that way.  

The previous critical statements this morning remind me of the guys at the fly 
ins that have never built anything but always make a point to come criticize 
every little paint chip on the plane you have there to show.  There are always 
a couple of them in every crowd.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


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N357CJ had a true airspeed of 183,6 mph @ 450 MSL the other night at 6
gph- I have never taken offense to the nose vs. tail wheel before but
your tone is absolutely arrogant
Joe Horton
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com


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KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[Mark Langford]

Oh, and to have been more thorough in looking at both sides, the taildragger 
is always trying to run off the runway (in a minor way) as opposed to being 
naturally more directionally stable on the ground, but that's never bothered 
me (yet).  Another angle is that if the nose gear breaks you will have a 
prop strike for sure, but you could also say that taildraggers can have a 
prop strike with a smooth landing on a great runway, IF you nose it over too 
far, so that one's a wash.  I'm sure there are more considerations that I've 
overlooked at the moment, but there are several thousand posts on this in 
the archive (see the bottom of every message for the link to the 
archives)...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com 

KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[Mark Langford]

I have to agree with Joe, it is an opinion.  I think the taildragger looks a 
little "old timey", and is so low to the ground that it looks small...not 
confidence inspiring to those who are afraid of flying (not that I care). 
The tri-gear looks like a more substantial airplane because it's up off the 
ground further, and looks more like a "real" airplane.  There is a real 
speed penalty, and it looks to me like about 10 mph at top speed.  Other 
advantages of taildraggers are slightly lower weight, less cost, and the 
ability to handle rough fields better, but aethetically, I think it's purely 
in the eye of the beholder.  I think they both LOOK good, but that's just MY 
opinion...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com

KR> Flying milkstools and idiots

[Joseph H. Horton]

BOY AM I GLAD THAT THIS IS JUST AN OPINION. Because it surly not a fact,
N357CJ had a true airspeed of 183,6 mph @ 450 MSL the other night at 6
gph- I have never taken offence to the nose vs. tail wheel before but
your tone is absolutely arrogant
Joe Horton
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:28:24 -0800 laser...@juno.com writes:
> Derek Wrote, 
> 
> "Im thinking I want to a trigear on my kr Im not really in love with 
> the
> taildragger.  Let me know if you think that would be a ok idea"
> 
> I think it's a terrible idea!  Not only will you ruin the looks of 
> the
> airplane (Look what a nosegear did to the Pacer!  Turned a graceful
> design into the butt of many jokes!) but I see that Dan says it will 
> go 5
> MPH slower.  5 MPH slower at what speed?  Since drag increases in 
> inverse
> proportion to speed, that means the higher your airspeed, the slower 
> you
> will go!  
> 
> Why give up performance and looks just for some temporary ease of 
> ground
> handling?  You'll soon get used to the conventional gear and it will 
> seem
> just as natural to you as the tri-gear does to the tricycle guys. 
> Pushing a draggy old strut around everywhere you go just doesn't 
> seem
> natural.
> 
> Mike
> 

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KR> Flying milkstools

[Dan Heath]

Looks, Speed, money, and adding something else that can break your plane.
The KR has to be the easiest conventional gear airplane that there is to fly
  It is so easy that even I can do it.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

Why give up performance and looks just for some temporary ease of ground
handling?  You'll soon get used to the conventional gear and it will seem
just as natural to you as the tri-gear does to the tricycle guys.
Pushing a draggy old strut around everywhere you go just doesn't seem
natural.

KR> Flying milkstools

[Dave Arbogast, CISSP]

So, so agreed

If you want, get some duel conventional time in a variety of 
conventional gear birds :-)

-dave

laser...@juno.com wrote:
> Derek Wrote, 
>
> "Im thinking I want to a trigear on my kr Im not really in love with the
> taildragger.  Let me know if you think that would be a ok idea"
>
> I think it's a terrible idea!  Not only will you ruin the looks of the
> airplane (Look what a nosegear did to the Pacer!  Turned a graceful
> design into the butt of many jokes!) but I see that Dan says it will go 5
> MPH slower.  5 MPH slower at what speed?  Since drag increases in inverse
> proportion to speed, that means the higher your airspeed, the slower you
> will go!  
>
> Why give up performance and looks just for some temporary ease of ground
> handling?  You'll soon get used to the conventional gear and it will seem
> just as natural to you as the tri-gear does to the tricycle guys. 
> Pushing a draggy old strut around everywhere you go just doesn't seem
> natural.
>
> Mike
> 
> 
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KR> Flying milkstools

[ColdLake-Tim]

Some older RV'ers eventually go to 3 in the green build option. My brother 
is considering a tri-gear after years & many TD's (62yrs old)

Many factor's.Alan Toule serial RV Builder once said in SA mag about 
doing same said he had too much cash $$$ in his TD to have it wrecked by a 
simple mistake/inattention (paraphrase)

CL-T

KR> Flying milkstools

[laser...@juno.com]

Derek Wrote, 

"Im thinking I want to a trigear on my kr Im not really in love with the
taildragger.  Let me know if you think that would be a ok idea"

I think it's a terrible idea!  Not only will you ruin the looks of the
airplane (Look what a nosegear did to the Pacer!  Turned a graceful
design into the butt of many jokes!) but I see that Dan says it will go 5
MPH slower.  5 MPH slower at what speed?  Since drag increases in inverse
proportion to speed, that means the higher your airspeed, the slower you
will go!  

Why give up performance and looks just for some temporary ease of ground
handling?  You'll soon get used to the conventional gear and it will seem
just as natural to you as the tri-gear does to the tricycle guys. 
Pushing a draggy old strut around everywhere you go just doesn't seem
natural.

Mike


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KR> flying photo...

[Mark Langford]

...late this afternoon over Florence...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
website:  www.n5...@hiwaay.net
email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net

KR> flying

[Randy Smith]

I do know what you mean. I built 1 in 1994 and had to
sell it in 2000. I test flew a couple of KR's in the
area and really missed it. When Les Palmer offered me
his I could not refuse. I have been lucky in that I
have had a chance to fly a number of different
aircraft and the KR is probably about the most fun.
The only 1 that comes close is the RV but compared to
my KR with the 150 hp Subaru the RV can't stay up when
I am wide open.

--- phil brookman <p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> you hvae no idea to realy appreciate the kr you got
> to be without one for a 
> while, after my ding i realy missit
> the sheer fun and ground eating ability of the
> little beast is realy missed
> i have a tthruster which is gresat for going around
> the block on .
> but thats it
> so people value the mins you spend in your kr there
> is nothing like it
> phil
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Randy Smith" <crz...@yahoo.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:24 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> flying
> 
> 
> > Make it even better,I wake up get cleaned up open
> the
> > hanger door and go fly 1 of 3. I can get the KR
> out at
> > about 6 gph at 165 mph, The 47 bellanca at 9 gph
> at
> > 140 mph,or the 74 Bellanca Super Viking at 15 gph
> at
> > 185 mph. Like is GOD.
> >
> >
> > --- Joseph H Horton <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Well Guys,
> >>  It is hard to describe the thrill of
> going
> >> to a hanger and just
> >> pulling out your very own plane, firing her up
> with
> >> no squawks, departing
> >> into the morning sky just to lazily buzz around
> for
> >> over an hour and a
> >> half, slow flight of 130mph, burning about 4 gal
> an
> >> hour at 2700 rpm.
> >> Just spent the time sight seeing at 1500 to 2500
> ft
> >> (starting to get more
> >> used to being low). Really, just a good time
> >> (actually pretty orgasmic)
> >> Landed with just over 170 hours on N357CJ (as
> good
> >> of a bird as I ever
> >> dreamed of).
> >>  Where are all you guys at?
> >> Joe Horton
> >> Coopersburg, Pa.
> >> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
> >>
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KR> flying

[Larry Flesner]

At 09:27 PM 5/12/2007, you wrote:
>If there is any interest, I expect to have a very nice 64 laminate 60d x
>66p prop (Performance Propellers) for a SAE-1 Continental hub for sale in
>a few months.


Jeff,

Keep me posted when you're ready to move the prop.  I'll see what my
situation is at the time.

Larry Flesner