Re: [lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

As I have had hypothyroidism for a long time now, I thought that I'd 
mention that insomnia is a symptom of the disease.  All the suggestions for 
getting to sleep do help, but only if the treatment is 
working.  Unfortunately, fatigue is also a symptom - deadly, mind-numbing 
fatigue that no amount of sleep will counteract.  Thankfully, it seems that 
Thurlow has only a mild case of it and with treatment should return to 
normal.


I should also point out, Thurlow that a dosage that works _now_ may not 
work in the future as circumstances change.  My own prescription has been 
altered many times over the years as stresses and physical ailments change 
my needs.


Heather Muth,
Abbotsford, BC
Where it is _much_ too hot!

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Re: [lace-chat] blogs versus websites

[H. Muth]

Hi,

If you are talking about which I'd rather readdefinitely a 
website.   Websites tend to have things organized in a section with links 
to related content.  I have found with blogs that I have to scroll through 
a lot of extraneous stuff to find what interests me.  For example, today I 
went to a blog to look for a picture of a crazy quilt.  At first I couldn't 
find it because it wasn't on the main blog page, but the author then sent a 
more direct link.  I had to scroll down past several entries about 
gardening, something I have no interest in, to find it.


Someone mentioned to ability to leave comments on a blog, but that is 
something that I would never do.  If I had something to say to the owner I 
would email them privately.  I just have no need to have my comments out 
there for all to read.


Just my thoughts,
Heather
Abbotsford,  BC
Where today is the second day of the airshow and the Snowbirds are roaring 
about over my house!


At 11:11 AM 09/08/2008 +0100, micki wrote:

I am having an interesting chat with my web-technie friends at the moment:
which is better - a blog or a website?   I know you can link a website to a
blog but would like to leave that out of my question.

Could you also give an explanation for your preference?

Thanks
Micki
from the north of Scotland

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[lace-chat] lonely Birthday

[H. Muth]

Dear Dora,

Unfortunately when my family sings 'Happy Birthday' we all howl like dogs 
in an effort to cover up the fact that we cannot sing.  So


'Happy Birthdayyy tooo yoouu!

No woman is alone who has friends.  (A slight misquote from 'It's a 
Wonderful Life.")


Heather
Abbotsford
Snow on the ground and fog in the air

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[lace-chat] Re: cat survey

[H. Muth]

Hello Thurlow and all,

  I've already replied to Kate privately about our cats but when I saw 
your cats' names I had to comment.  We have three, ostensibly one each, 
(myself and my two children) but in reality they are all mine.  (In that 
they know to come to me for food, water, etc.)


The first and oldest is Koochka, which is the Russian word for cat.  I call 
her Mooch and my terms of endearment for her, which get her purring and 
looking at me adoringly are - 'silliness, nonsense, dope, fluff'.  It's a 
good thing she doesn't have a dictionary.   She sleeps in my inbox on my 
desk - barely fits into it.  Mooch is grey and white.


The next oldest is Fitzwilliam McFuzzles III.  We call him Fitz. (He's also 
the first Fitzwilliam McFuzzles!)   He has his own online resume that I 
made a couple of years ago for a web design 
class.  http://members.shaw.ca/hmuth/resume.htm  I'm afraid that Fitz isn't 
the brightest cat.  He's more of a himbo - very good -looking but dumb as a 
fence post.


Our youngest cat (only 2 1/2) is Senor Pedro el Gato, (Lord Peter the Cat) 
the Spanish ambassador to the Asias.  We call him Pedro.   We discovered he 
was an ambassador when we had Japanese and Korean homestay students.  He 
made it his responsibility to help them settle in and not be 
homesick.  Pedro is black and purrs at the slightest provocation.


Our other pet is Admiral Reginald of the British Navy.  The Admiral is a 
hedgehog whom we refer to lightly as Reggie.  He and Pedro get along 
well.  When Reggie is trucking about the floor, Pedro sits nearby and keeps 
an eye on him.  Reggie barely bothers to 'huff' anymore when Pedro sniffs 
at him.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where there is no school today (for me) because of snow.

At 07:26 PM 29/01/2008 -0500, Thurlow Weed wrote:

I suppose I'll go ahead and list my menagerie

Sheridan Alexander: a neurotic Maine Coon.  He hasn't been the same since 
he lost his buddy Sir Christopher Sebastian, World-Famous Adventurer and 
Explorer about two years ago.  Keeps to himself, and "nests" in strange 
places, such as a litter box, the window sash, staircase newel, top of an 
open door, etc.


Aleksei Krishtof,  a Russian Blue


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[lace-chat] Cards for my Grandfather

[H. Muth]

Hello all those who sent cards to my Grandfather,

I wanted to let you know that I'll be seeing him this weekend and will get 
to see all that you have sent.  I'll contact each of you to let you know if 
your offering has arrived.  Unfortunately, I don't get to see Papa as often 
as I'd like, but seeing him this weekend is even earlier than I thought (I 
thought Christmas).


Thanks again everyone,
Heather
Abbotsford, BC

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[lace-chat] Birthday Request

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

In the past I know that some of you have sent greetings to friends of 
people on the list.  Well, it's not my birthday, but that of my 
Grandfather.  He will be 88 next month on the 18th and I am asking a favour 
of my fellow Arachnes.  He would be thrilled to receive postcards and 
greetings from all over the world.  He always looks up places on maps and 
atlases.  Whenever I move he checks the address and marks it on a map.  So, 
if any of you care to wish him a 'Happy Birthday', please contact me for 
his address.  I would be very grateful and I know he will be too.


Thanks
Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Off to school in a moment.

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[lace-chat] Re: Left or right brain?male or female brain?

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I came in exactly in the middle.  Exactly!  This doesn't surprise me as 
I've always scored high on the traditionally 'male' quizzes - geometry, 
spacial acuity, etc., but I am definitely a woman.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Nice, sunny fall day.

At 08:48 AM 13/10/2007 +, Barron wrote:

I came in at 50 towards female
jenny barron
NE Scotland


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[lace-chat] Re: "Buddy" map

[H. Muth]

Hello David, and all,

I'm guessing around 5 kilometers.  That's as the crow flies.  To get to the 
border crossing is a little farther as it's on the other side of 
town.  Alongside the border on our side runs '0' Avenue, then a large 
ditch, then the States.  The border is patrolled on both sides for drug 
runners and there are video cameras which alert the authorities to unlawful 
activity (such as jumping the ditch).  It runs along the 49th parallel for 
most of the distance of our country only doing some jogging in the east and 
a little bit here in the west.  The border swings south of Bev on Vancouver 
Island so that the entire Island is in Canada, but there is a tiny portion 
of the States hanging from us.  The only way off Point Roberts, Washington 
(N 48° 59.381  W 123° 03.389) is through Canada.


More than you wanted to know, I expect, but I thought others might be like 
me and enjoy learning interesting tidbits about other countries.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Off to school shortly.




Nice shot. So how far south of you is the USA border. Doesn't look very far.
David in Ballarat


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[lace-chat] Re "Buddy" map

[H. Muth]

Hello Achim and all,

I'm enjoying looking people up on Google Maps.  Achim, when I travelled a 
little south and east from where you are I found dinosaurs (and a mammoth) 
in the woods! They are at N 49° 03.278   W 122° 21.214.


I'm located at N 49° 03.278   W 122° 21.214.  I was surprised to see how 
recent the photo was.  I can tell by the vehicles parked around my house 
that the picture was taken within the last two months!  However, at another 
place that I lived, the picture is at least 2 1/2 years old - and the 
houses are only blocks from each other.


Happy Thanksgiving to the other Canadians!

Heather
Abbotsford, BC Canada
Turkey yesterday, Ham today

At 09:22 AM 08/10/2007 +0200, Achim Siebert wrote:


Here are mine - living in a flat on the 3rd floor facing the trees in
the SW (an abandoned railway trail):
 52°29'21.23"N  13°27'23.88"O

Best, Achim.



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Re: [lace-chat] what to do with spoof messages?

[H. Muth]

Hello Alice and all,

I use Mailwasher  http://www.mailwasher.net/  which is a free little 
program that reads my email off my isp (internet service provider) _before_ 
I download it.  I can scan the subject lines and even preview the content 
(not html).  This is where it gets great.  I can then bounce the email back 
to the sender without opening it.  It then looks to the spammer like it was 
undeliverable and they take my name off their lists.  I have had this email 
address for almost a decade and get very little spam as I bounce it back.


I also only use this email address for personal mail.  When I enter 
contests or respond in any way to something online I use my hotmail or 
gmail accounts.  One of my hotmail accounts is almost a decade old too and 
only recently has the spam level increased.  Usually their filters catch it.


http://www.spamcop.net/   Spamcop is a reporting site.  I believe it only 
takes registering with them and if we all reported it soon spam levels 
would drop.


Hope this helps someone.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Off to school!

At 05:22 PM 11/09/2007 -0700, Alice Howell wrote:

In this wide world of Arachne, someone may know where
to forward the scam messages that appear in my email.


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[lace-chat] MORE Childhood Rhymes & Chants

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

No one has mentioned one I remember from my childhood (late 60's).  This 
was a 'clapping' song - two girls faced one another and clapped their hands 
together, crossing arms etc in a pattern.  The verse was:

"Miss Mary Mack, Mack Mack,
Had silver buttons all down her
back, back, back

Unfortunately that is all that I can remember, but it had to have been at 
least half a century old at that time, because the sartorial detail would 
have be out of date by the twenties.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
I went to the Airshow on Friday with 7 teenage girls and got a sunburn!
http://www.abbotsfordairshow.com/

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I agree with Tamara about the first part of the saying and think that the 
second must be "ruddy son of a bitch!"  I've never known how 'ruddy' is an 
insult.  I don't use any of these myself (in general, don't swear at all) 
but have heard them all at one time or another.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
A beautiful spring day.

At 01:56 AM 06/04/2007 -0400, Tamara P Duvall wrote:

On Apr 6, 2007, at 0:57, David in Ballarat wrote:
An elderly man told of how his grandfather, a staunch Presbyterian who 
never swore in his life, had a saying which he used when the occasion 
demanded. You have to use the appropriate intonation to get the full 
effect, but he would curse in his loudest voice: " Cheese & rice, a muddy 
bucket of pitch"


Never heard this particular "curse" but, based on what I know -- in 
general -- about curses, euphemisms, etc, I'd stake my linguistic 
reputation  on the first part (cheese & rice) being a substitute for 
"Jesus Christ".


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[lace-chat] Height

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I have a funny story related to height.  Firstly, my family is all 
short.  I'm 5'2",  my father is only a couple inches taller than I and my 
mother and grandfather are shorter.  However, my brother, who is adopted is 
over 6 feet tall (we are all dark and he is blond, too).  He married a tall 
wife who is 6 feet as well.  They refer to the rest of us as "The 
Munchkins."  We all went to their house for dinner last week for the first 
time.  Not one of us could sit in their furniture properly!  If we scooted 
back our feet wouldn't touch the floor and if we let them do so we couldn't 
lean back.  It felt like that 'Saturday Night Live' (I think) character who 
sat in the huge chair or 'The Big Comfy  Couch.'


Rest assured that my children will not have the same problem.  Their father 
is tall and my son is at 5'11" and daughter at 5'8" at 17 and 16 
respectively.  I don't think they're quite done growing yet.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Off to school for the day.

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[lace-chat] Fireworks

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Happy New Year to you and yours.

Perhaps you'd all better move here.  Abbotsford has outlawed 
fireworks.  The only ones allowed are the official ones of the city and the 
rare private ones that have received approval.  The only official ones that 
I can recall are on Canada Day (July 1st) and maybe Victoria Day (May 
21).  We used to get all kinds of fireworks around Halloween but since the 
ban there have been less.


However, I must say that I love fireworks!  I love the lights, the sound 
and the smell.  I don't get out to see them much anymore as by that time of 
night I'm usually too tired to handle the crowds and walking.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Canada

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Re: [lace-chat] Names & Titles

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Like Mr. Weed, (or perhaps I should call him 'young Thurlow' as I am 3 
years older) I too, deplore the use of first names of adults by 
children.  However, it is sometimes difficult to insist that my children 
call others by their titles.  We had some friends who insisted that they be 
called by their first names.  As I informed my children, it is alright to 
call them Dale and Leslie, since what you call them is a matter of respect 
and it would be disrespectful to call them Mr. and Mrs. when they don't 
like it.  I am in Canada and have been fighting a losing battle with the 
name 'thing,' so it isn't just limited to the States.


My children's friends call me Mrs. Sterling (my daughter's name) - even my 
son's friends!   Which is fine by me, as long as they don't use only my 
first name.


I also believe that everyone is equal, but that respect is something that 
should be shown and using titles is one way.  The only thing I don't like 
is when someone clings to their title when everyone else is on a first name 
basis.  I have a 'doctor' acquaintance who does that.


Heather (Mrs. Muth)
Abbotsford, BC
After an afternoon spent at White Rock

At 05:07 PM 25/08/2006 -0400, Mr. T. Weed wrote:

But now I'm curious:  the tendency in the US of children addressing
elders by their first name; while I abhor it, I am curious to know if
this is the case in other countries as well.  Is this a US phenomenon, or
does it exist elsewhere?

Thurlow
an old-fashioned person
Lancaster, OH

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Re: [lace-chat] :-) Mr Fenton

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I recently went shopping with a friend and saw a sign on a fitting room 
door.  When I asked how a fitting room could be "out of order," the clerk 
replied that someone had 'peed' in it!!!  I understood that it was not a 
child, either.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC

At 06:00 PM 09/06/2006 +0200, Jeanette Fischer wrote:


15. December 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door and waited a
while; then, yelled, very loudly, "There is no toilet paper in here!"

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[lace-chat] Men's Underwear

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Here's a site that is similar to the Art Bras for  Breast Cancer that I 
posted last year.  This one is Men's Underwear for Prostate Cancer.  The 
site is just a photo site unlike the bras one, but I thought you might like 
to see it.


I particularly like the codpiece.

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/1334683/

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Rainy

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[lace-chat] ly

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I have come to this fountain of knowledge to ask about 'ly', as in really, 
badly, etc.  Is there a rule for when a word has ly on the end?


So often I hear people say 'he did real bad' which I know is incorrect, but 
so is 'really bad', isn't it?  Is the correct term 'really badly'?


"That went by quick(ly)?"

What is the rule for 'ly'?

Thanks,
Heather

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[lace-chat] Soil or Source

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Regarding 'place' of birth over 'source' of birth - quotoed from "What 
Makes Canada Cool?" www.canadacool.com


"Ottawa, Ontario - In 1943 Princess Margriet Francisca (younger sister of 
Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard, the current Queen of the Netherlands) was born 
at the Ottawa Civic Hospital. She is only royal ever to be born in North 
America. The Dutch Royal Family had fled to Canada in 1940 after the WWII 
invasion of their country. Among their problems - the expected royal child 
needed to be delivered on Dutch territory to be a Dutch citizen. So, this 
one hospital maternity room was temporarily ceded to the Netherlands. Each 
year Ottawa receives 20,000 tulip bulbs from the Royal Family and the Dutch 
Bulb Growers, as a thank you for sheltering the Royal Family, and for 
Canada's help with liberation of the Netherlands during WWII. Each May the 
gardens of Ottawa burst into bloom and the city celebrates the world's 
largest tulip festival. About three million flowers blossom in the region, 
300,000 of them at Commissioners Park near Dows Lake."


As far as ambassadors' children are concerned, is not the embassy 
considered 'home'land?  That is, the Canadian Embassy in whatever country 
is Canadian soil.


Heather
in Abbotsford, BC (Pure Canadian soil)

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[lace-chat] Elderly!!!

[H. Muth]

Jean,

I beg to differ.  My mother is only 62 and by no means elderly.  My 
grandfather is 84, now he is elderly.  I've noticed the trend here in 
Canada to declare that 60 is middle age, but that would only be if you 
lived to be 120.  However, I just can't get my head around 62 being 
elderly.  Just what is the definition of 'elderly', anyway.

Heather


At 09:06 AM 15/07/2005 +0100, Jean Nathan wrote:
>  I'm elderly (62),

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[lace-chat] Art Bras for next year

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

The guidelines for the Women's Wellness Art Bras are published on their 
site.  http://www.wtww.org/

Let us know if anyone sends in a bra.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC

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[lace-chat] Newly Single

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
I hope that you will forgive me for some maudlin reflections.  And to those 
to whom I owe letters, hopefully this will explain some of my tardiness 
(Tamara).  I am recently separated from my husband of 22 years, not by 
choice, however, and am adjusting to my new state.

My house has recently been put up for sale and we have a buyer with the 
subjects being removed on Tuesday and final move out date May 1st.  Please 
go to www.randydyck.com and click on Properties, Randy's listings, Houses 
and my house is in the third row, right hand side (it's pink), address is 
31034, to see a virtual tour of my place, if you are interested.   It is a 
typical house for this area.  Bedroom #3 used to be my craft room with all 
my stuff in it, but that is all packed away for now, until I find a new 
place for the kids and I.

I thought, perhaps, I'd explain my signature in my letter to lace and let 
you, some of whom I have known for years, know what's up in my 
life.  Although separation is an awful thing, I find that I am getting more 
and better sleep now than I have done for some time!  Funny how things work 
out.

Thanks for listening,
Christine N. - email me.
Heather
Abbotsford, BC
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[lace-chat] Pictures of this area

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I just found this site (from a birding list) and thought you might be 
interested to see some pictures of birds and other fauna from the Pacific 
Northwest (which is the Northwest of the US and south of where I live in 
British Columbia, but we have many of the same birds).

http://www.pbase.com/jvhigbee

Heather
Abbotsford, BC

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Re: [lace-chat] US Christmas "of old"?

[H. Muth]

Tamara,

While I don't know the answers to your questions about Christmas trees 
coming to the Americas, I do know (being Canadian through and through) that 
we celebrated Thanksgiving more than a _month_ before you.   This year it 
was on October 11th.  We've been waiting patiently for you to catch up so 
that we can get going on the next set of festivities.  :)

Heather
Abbotsford, with the type of rain that you can't really see but it gets you 
very wet.


At 10:54 PM 23/11/2004 -0500, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:
>Yes, I do know we still have the Thanksgiving hurdle to tackle (I assume 
>the Canadians are over that pain; my understanding is y'all celebrate a 
>week earlier than we do?), but time flies... :)

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[lace-chat] Cats and more Cats

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
Here's a site my son passed on to me.  It's definitely for cat lovers.
www.infinitecat.com
Watch for our cats coming soon!
Heather
Abbotsford, BC - overcast and cool
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[lace-chat] More Art Bras

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Here's more art bras.  These ones all from Australia (I think).I'm 
tempted to make one myself to hang in my craft room.  Maybe men will come 
up with a decorated jock strap fundraiser for prostate cancer.

http://www.atasda.org.au/images/exhibits/bazaar_bras/index.htm

http://inaminuteago.com/braimages/Canbra.html

Heather
Overcast and cool Abbotsford.  Back from a day trip to Victoria to see the 
Treasures of Egypt exhibit.

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[lace-chat] Sending cards online

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Just a warning about sending e-cards.  Most of these sites are email 
address gatherers.  So if you put your friend's email in as the recipient 
her email address is collected and sold as a live, viable account.  I have 
asked my friends not to send me e-cards and have noticed the amount of spam 
I receive has dropped considerably.

Like Avital, I also have a 'throwaway' email address with Hotmail.  This is 
where my friends could send e-cards without concern.

So, send any cards to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll be happy to receive 
them.  :)

Heather
In overcast Abbotsford, just home from 7 weeks in Calgary with my SIL


At 05:12 PM 05/09/2004 +1000, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

>They have  e cards which members can access, and it might be fun to send some!

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[lace-chat] Embroidery Help

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
I just received an incredible gift.  A friend was clearing out some old 
things of her mother's and brought me Binders 2-8 of the Hands On 
lessons.  These lessons including Battenberg and Tenerife laces as well as 
different kinds of embroidery.  My friend also gave me many packages of 
cross stitch fabrics and threads that are labeled LAS #3 (up to about 20, I 
think).  Unfortunately, the books supposed to go with the fabrics and 
threads appear to be lost.  Does anyone know about the LAS series?  It may 
have been a pattern of the month type of thing or a lesson (like the Hands 
On).  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Heather
Hot and Sunny Abbotsford, BC
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[lace-chat] Phone call charges

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
I just got my phone bill today and you will all (especially Tamara) be 
pleased to know that it cost me CAD$1.64 to talk to David.  Yes, only $1.64 
and we talked for 23 minutes!  I was expecting 5-7 dollars so am pleased at 
this price.   And my short call to Tamara (she called me back and we talked 
mostly on her bill) was only CAD$.44.   Not bad for a chance to get to hear 
you both.

To give you an idea of relative value, a large Tim Horton's (a Canadian 
icon) coffee is CAD$1.55 and a McDonald's Big Mac costs CAD$2.99.  Pretty 
good deal for the call, eh?

Heather
I am Canadian
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[lace-chat] Vancouver Area Bobbin Lacemakers

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
Lacers in the Vancouver, B.C. area - I have been made aware of a needlework 
showcase at the Burnaby museum the August long weekend.  I will be there 
demonstrating stumpwork, but the organizer would be interested in have 
someone demonstrate lacemaking.  There will be no payment, but we receive 
lunch and tickets to the museum at a later date.  There are several shifts 
available.  They are three hours each, in the morning or afternoon each of 
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.  If you are interested, email me and I'll put 
you in contact with the organizer.   There will be someone there 
demonstrating Romanian Point Lace.

Heather
Abbotsford, overcast
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Tax Feedom Day

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
Just thought I'd check when our tax freedom day comes.  We haven't reached 
it yet.  For the average Canadian, tax freedom day comes June 28th and 
according to one website I visited our family's personal day comes July 
1st.  Half the year working for someone one else.  I do appreciate the many 
benefits we receive such as our medical system, but still - 6 months!

Heather
Abbotsford, Overcast but warm.
At 11:59 PM 30/05/2004 -0400, Tamara P. Duvall  and Jean wrote:
Today is the first day, for the average UK taxpayer, when you can keep the
money you earn - every penny you've earned up to yesterday has been paid to
the government as tax.
You mean, for *5 full months* you've been working for the government? I 
knew that Brit taxes were ridiculous, but didn't know the extent...
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Re: [lace-chat] Heather's Phone Call

[H. Muth]

Yes, all,

I did phone David, but not in the middle of the night.  He certainly didn't 
sound as Aussie as I expected, more like an Englishman who has lived in 
Australia for some time.

We had a nice talk about weather, climate change, David's summer holidays, 
time zones, forest fires, lace, old Arachnes, Tamara, linguistics, accents, 
and even more than that.

If I had used my regular telephone provider, it would have cost me just 
over $1CAD per minute but I used another long distance provider and it 
should only cost me $.25CAD per minute.  At least it better!  I won't find 
out until my bill comes in.  $5 for a chance to talk to David was well 
worth it, I thought.

I like having the voice and the photo to go along with the letters from 
Arachnids.  I 'hear' them when I read their writings.  I have a picture of 
Bev Walker in my mind whenever she writes.  And any others I have met or 
heard or of whom I have seen pictures.  It just adds to the daily Arachne dose.

Well, my billy has boiled and I'm off to enjoy a 'nice cup of tea'.

Heather
Sunny Abbotsford, BC
At 03:15 PM 07/05/2004 +1000, David Collyer wrote:
Dear Friends,
About half an hour ago I had the most delightful chat with Heather MUTH 
from B.C., Canada!! Yes, she phoned.
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[no subject]

[H. Muth]

Hello all,
Many years ago David Downunder had called Tamara and described her 
voice.  I'd been wanting to hear it ever since and yesterday's mail problem 
seemed as good a reason as any.  I also pay very cheap phone rates.  I very 
nearly called David in the middle of the night (his night) just to hear 
what he sounded like!

Tamara and I chatted about how it seems we know those on the lace lists as 
friends even though we've never met.  I know I miss my daily dose of 
letters from you all when I'm away and commiserated with Tamara over her 
(albeit short term) loss.

And although my friends might heartily agree with the tag (below), my last 
name is Muth, an German inheritance from my husband.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC, not far from Vancouver and the ocean

Particular thanks to Heather (Mouth) who both forwarded a bunch of lace 
and lace-chat messages (some of which reached me today both as a forward 
and as messages directly from the lists) *and* telephoned -- all the way 
from Brit. Columbia -- this morning... You ladies are *the greatest* 
friends anyone could wish for.
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[lace-chat] Cross stitch Alphabets

[H. Muth]

http://yarntree.com/036alpht.htm
http://yarntree.com/035alph.htm
http://www.freepatternsonline.com/chart/alphabets.htm
The last address has quite a few alphabets on it.  There's lots available 
out there.  I love the internet!

Heather
Rainy Abbotsford, BC
At 04:40 PM 03/05/2004 -0700, John OConnor wrote:
Dear Lacers,
This plea for help is off lace topic but I sure do hope someone comes to
the rescue. I need an alphabet and numerals in cross stitch. Particularly
an A, L, M, Y and in numerals - 2,0, and 4.
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[lace-chat] Art Bras

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I belong to a crazy quilt list as well.  'A Way to Women's Wellness' is 
putting together a calendar of designer bras to raise funds for breast 
cancer research.  There are pictures of the calendar bras on the website to 
entice you to purchase the calendar.  Go have a look, they are beautiful.

www.wtww.org


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Overcast, very different from yesterday's sun and warmth.

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[lace-chat] was Mary Stewart - Good Reads

[H. Muth]

Hello, All,

Happy 9th birthday.  Hard to believe I've been here since the first birthday.

One of my favourite authors is Angela Thirkell.  She wrote in the era that 
Tamara mentioned - 30's- 60's, and was the granddaughter of Edward 
Burne-Jones, the pre-Raphaelite painter.  Her books use characters and 
histories from Anthony Trollope and continue their stories in fictional 
Barsetshire.  One of her characters is a writer and people say about her 
books "nothing ever happens in them and they are very nice."  Which is also 
true of Thirkell's books.   They are the English Country Life of Agatha 
Christie and Dorothy Sayers without the mysteries.

http://www.angelathirkell.org/  to find out more.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
There are blue edges to the sky, but clouds overhead.  Our new kitten is 
watching the birds out the window.

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[lace-chat] Grey Hair

[H. Muth]

Jean,

At 41, my hair is well beyond 'salt and pepper' .  Although I'd like to 
blame my children, my first grey came when I was 10!  In my teens I had 
almost black hair with many silver strands running through it.  People were 
asking me all the time where I got it done.  (Disco years - looked great 
under the lights).  I dyed it for a short time a few years ago but as it 
doesn't really take dye, I ended up with a mess.  For those of you who have 
seen either of the last two Lord of the Rings - I have Denethor hair.  I've 
been thinking about trying his oil treatment - it makes it look nice and 
shiny.  Seriously, my hair is about the colour of his and the length.  But 
I like it and won't dye it again even though an 82 year old woman told me 
just last week that I look 'no more than 55'!

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Windy last night.
At 08:15 AM 18/03/2004 +, Jean Nathan wrote:

At 61 I only have half a dozen grey hairs. My mother only had few when she
died at 76. Both my brothers were white by the time they were 50. One of my
ambitions is to have grey hair - dark brown hair and wrinkles don't go
together.
I swore I'd never dye my hair after I saw a woman standing in the rain with
(obviously not permanent) black hair dye running down her face. Too
embarassing for words!
Jean in Poole
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Re: [lace-chat] Tulip Tree and Magnolia

[H. Muth]

Ah, Betty Ann, I live in a secret part of Canada.  Here in the Pacific 
South West the weather is rarely cold.  I am only a mile or so north 
of  your Washington state and here in Abbotsford my weather  is usually 
warmer and less rainy than Seattle or even Vancouver, BC (they are closer 
to the water).  Snow in the winter is a big deal for us and we grow many 
things that cannot grow in other parts of Canada.  This is an area of great 
beauty, surrounded by mountain peaks, yet sheltered and green.  Do come and 
visit some time.  Come in March and I'll show you our magnolias.

Heather
Waxing poetic, Abbotsford BC
At 07:50 PM 16/03/2004 -0500, Clive and Betty Ann Rice wrote:

Southern Magnolia trees won't grow in the higher elevations, even atop the 
Blue Ridge Mountains only 20 miles from here.  We do have some severe cold 
weather, but only in short spells.  I doubt the Southern Magnolia would 
survive in a prolonged severe winter.

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia
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Re: [lace-chat] Magnolias and Tulips

[H. Muth]

Thanks Jim,

It is that the tulip tree normally has yellow flowers that decides the 
matter.  What we have here are magnolias and they are just starting to 
bloom.  Lovely big blooms with petals fading from violet to white on the 
tips.  The petals are big and waxy and if only they lasted longer I'd make 
clothes from them.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
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The Tulip tree I know of has the scientific name Liriodendron 
tulipifera.The
flowers are greenish yellow in color and look quite a bit like tulips but are
larger.
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[lace-chat] Tulip Tree and Magnolia

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

It must have been because I asked for your wisdom that I found the answer 
immediately after I wrote you the question.  It seems that a Tulip Tree is 
a member of the Magnolia family.  I still am not sure what are the trees 
that I see in my neighbourhood but at least I can check out their leaves 
and find out.  It is also called the Yellow Poplar.  Here's a site with a 
picture of the flowers.

http://www.floridata.com/ref/m/magno_so.cfm

Heather
Abbotsford BC - Rainy and the flicker has gone.
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[lace-chat] Magnolias and Tulips

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

When I want to find out something I turn first to the internet (if I don't 
have it here in one of my reference books) and then to you.  Therefore:

O Great Fount of Wisdom and Knowledge that is the Arachne list,
What is the difference between a Tulip tree and a Magnolia tree?
Awaiting your reply with baited breath (I've been eating worms).

Heather
Rainy Abbotsford where a Northern Flicker in all his spring glory came to 
my suet feeder today.

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[lace-chat] Plague History

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

If I remember my history correctly, the plague arrived in England in 1348 
(my studies are mostly of medieval England) through the arrival of a ship 
with ill crew members.  The plague itself came from China and spread across 
the continent to the merchants of Europe who then spread it 
unwittingly.  The plague was spread mostly by the bite of fleas from the 
rats that overran port cities. Naturally any sane flea would abandon a dead 
body for a live one.  People spread the fleas (and the forms of the plague 
that were spread by human contact) when they fled infected areas.  The 
numbers of dead are disputed by historians but range from 25 to 50 % of the 
population.

All of the above information only refers to the Black Death of 1348 in 
England.  The Bubonic Plague still exists but is now curable with 
antibiotics.   Squirrels here (west coast of Canada) still carry the fleas, 
apparently, but I've never heard of a case being transferred to 
people.  I've always wanted a t-shirt (even though I don't wear them) that 
reads "I survived the Black Death", but I'd have to chase down a few 
squirrels to justify it.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Bright and sunny
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I was always taught that it came to England FROM Europe rather than the 
other way round and this would make sense as we are an island so would be 
unlikely to have it just occur naturally.

Anyone got any better knowledge of the 1400s as this is not my period - 
I'm better on the reoccurance in the 1660s when it certainly arrived here 
via the ships.

Liz
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Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: golden sunsets

[H. Muth]

At 08:14 PM 23/02/2004 -0500, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:
From: D.C.
--
The nice thing about being senile is you can hide your own Easter eggs.


I'm not senile but I have a disease which affects my memory (among other 
things).  I have hypothyroidism.  When my car was stolen a few weeks ago, I 
stood in the parking lot and couldn't remember - not where I'd parked but 
how I got to work in the first place!  There are advantages, however, I 
never have to watch reruns, I get to meet lots of new people, (had a 
conversation with a woman at church one week and when we parted my son told 
me I'd had the exact same conversation with her the previous week), and get 
to hide my own Easter eggs!

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
A little rainy but still spring-like.
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[lace-chat] Aussie short form

[H. Muth]

Hi all,

I've come up with "hope all your chicks turn into .and kick your dunny 
down.

And I'm ...  like lizard drinking.

David, what does it really say... and mean.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Rainy, but the backyard is full of birds.
> "hp ll yr chks trn nt ms nd kck yr dnny dwn."

> "m flt t lk lzrd drnkng".
> David in Ballarat
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[lace-chat] Lincoln's address

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I recognized this within seconds.  As neighbours to the USA, I have heard 
of this since my childhood.  I don't remember if we studied it in school, 
but I knew the words _and_ the name of the Address and the speaker's name 
(see subject line).However, I am college educated, and a history buff, 
so maybe someone for whom history is a subject to be avoided at all costs 
may not have picked up on it.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Canada
Fr scr nd svn yrs g r frfthrs brght frth t ths ntn...
. How many *native English speakers* from other countries (UK, OZ, Canada) 
also recognised and interpreted correctly the same truncated version?
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[lace-chat] Re: :-) Did you know?

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I thought I'd address this one.
Babies are born without kneecaps. They don't appear until the child
reaches 2 to 6 years of age.
Babies are born with many of their bones at the stage of calcified 
cartilage.  Knee caps included.  As they grow up ossification occurs and 
cartilage is replaced by bone.  For the long bones, the tubular shaft 
ossifies first and then within the cartilage ends, bone is produced from 
the centre out.  The cartilage at the ends of the shaft is responsible for 
lengthening the bones.  By the end of our teens or so, our bones have 
completely ossified.

I learned this in an anatomy class that I took as my science requirement 
for my degree (still working on it).  Our text book was a colouring book, 
what fun.

Heather
In sunny Abbotsford, BC
Near Vancouver
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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I never had a pair of red shoes.  I did have a pair with very high cork 
platforms which had white sandal straps on them.  (I'm trying very hard to 
remember.)  And I also had a pair of very high black boots which my parents 
hated.  My daughter is working on her own style (she's 13) but I don't 
think there'll be any such shoes in her fashion future.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Almost finished this semester's classes.  Just 2 major essays to go.
At 11:55 AM 02/12/2003 +, Lynne Cumming wrote:
My 16 year old daughter received her 'first' pay packet last week (has done
a paper round for a year but it doesn't really count!) and promptly spent
most of it on a pair of red shoes. Winkle picker, 3" stiletto jobs in bright
red fabric. A pair of shoes to die for! I tried them on and my Achilles
tendon screamed no, no!! Now, every woman I have spoken to since says, " I
had a pair of red shoes." Now my query is this, how many are there of
you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? I had a pair at 14
(plus boots which I had to dye black in the end to wear on my motorbike to
school) and my father was furious when he discovered me limping around in
the shoes because I couldn't bear to give them up and they were far too
small!
I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera  - cheap from
Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool!
I wish I had legs like hers tho.
Lynne.

Lynne Cumming
Baldock, North Herts, UK
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"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the
pig."
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Reindeer and Horses

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Thank you, Tamara, for the horse site and Dominique was kind enough to send 
the reindeer site.  Here it is and please consider it a greeting from me to 
all of you.

http://web.icq.com/shockwave/0,,4845,00.swf

Heather
Abbotsford,  BC
Almost done the Philosophy and the English Lit courses.
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[lace-chat] Reindeer and Horses

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

Do you remember last year there was someone who posted a URL for singing 
reindeer (on a roof, if I remember correctly) and another for singing 
horses?  Does anyone have those URLs and could send them to me?  Some 
friends of mine are interested.

Thanks,
Heather
Abbotsford, BC
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[lace-chat] I Knew Her When...

[H. Muth]

At 08:55 AM 18/11/2003 -0800, Bev Walker wrote:
 >Hi everyone

 >Sulochona wrote:

 > Does anyone know the editor of the Canadian Lace Gazette well
enough to request..

 >I know her quite well ;)

This reminds me of a story I heard about the Queen (of England, that is). 
She was at a small bakery outside Sandringham Castle when approached by a 
stranger. The stranger said "Do you know, you look alot like the Queen." 
Her Majesty's response was "How very reassuring!"
Probably not true but funny anyway,
Heather
Abbotsford, BC
With piles of homework to catch up on after a weekend away.

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Philosophy Play (the earth is flat)

[H. Muth]

Tamara,

High praise indeed!   Thank you very much.  I've 'known' you for almost 8 
years and highly respect your opinion (even when I disagree with it 
!).   Bugs Bunny and Porky are Looney Tunes characters.   They can be seen 
at   http://looneytunes.warnerbros.com/toons/index.html?frompromo=LT+DVD+Promo

I was raised with these cartoons and enjoyed them very much.  They fell out 
of favour in the '80s for the violence (the coyote never catches the 
roadrunner, only gets himself hurt) but have made a come back.  I even 
think they have a movie coming out with cartoon characters and live actors 
together.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC

Thanks very much. Like your teacher, I too, enjoyed reading it 
tremendously, and chuckled through most of it, even though I'm not 
familiar with the characters
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[lace-chat] Philosophy Play

[H. Muth]

Tamara,

I've sent you a copy privately, but I'd like to clarify that the play was 
about a Rational speaker (a speaker with the truth) and a Rhetorical 
speaker (a speaker with all the bells and whistles).  It was a requirement 
that the audience reacted to the speakers positively or negatively.  So 
while the argument itself may not be that convincing one of the speakers 
certainly is.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC


Congratulations on your grade. And I'd like a copy, please -- if the chat 
can't/doesn't want to "support" it because of length, then privately. As 
for why... :)

I'm argumentative by nature, and I *like* a well-reasoned argument, 
whether I agree with the final "findings" or not; it's the beauty of 
looking at something (anything: lace problem, philosophical problem, 
language/thought process relationship, a twig) from more than one angle 
that appeals to me.
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Re: [lace-chat] Direction of the sun

[H. Muth]

Noelene,

That was me.  (I?)  I wrote a short play for my philosophy class using Bugs 
Bunny and Porky Pig as debaters over whether the earth was flat.  You may 
be pleased to know that I got an A+ on it!  If any one is interested I 
could send you a copy.  (Although why you would want to see my schoolwork, 
is beyond me.)

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where I now have to reconstruct an argument by Thursday.
At 09:09 AM 12/11/2003 +1100, W & N Lafferty wrote:
Hey, didn't someone here write a piece on "The Earth is Flat" recently?

Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace-chat] Christmas ornament exchange

[H. Muth]

I am so, so sorry.  Under no circumstances did I mean for this to go 
public.  My apologies to everyone and especially Heather.  This did happen 
several years ago.  Once again I apologize.  This was a terrible thing that 
I have done.  Please forgive me.

Heather
Shamed, in Abbotsford.
At 02:55 PM 05/11/2003 -0800, H. Muth wrote:
Alice,

Before you let Heather (Jazmin) take part, let me tell you that she was my 
secret pal a couple of years ago in the last exchange I took part in and 
didn't send the last parcel.  Neither did she respond about my last 
parcel.  I wanted to let you know.  I may have already told you before.  I 
don't want to be vindictive but don't want anyone else to be left out.

Heather
Abbotsford
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Re: [lace-chat] Christmas ornament exchange

[H. Muth]

Alice,

Before you let Heather (Jazmin) take part, let me tell you that she was my 
secret pal a couple of years ago in the last exchange I took part in and 
didn't send the last parcel.  Neither did she respond about my last 
parcel.  I wanted to let you know.  I may have already told you before.  I 
don't want to be vindictive but don't want anyone else to be left out.

Heather
Abbotsford


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Any lace okay? Ie knitted/crocheted? If yes, then I'm in:
Heather Davies
37 Raglan St.
Guelph, ON, Canada
N1H 2S4
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1 ornament
Overseas is fine.
Thanks,
Heather
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Re: [lace-chat] Philosophical Question

[H. Muth]

Thanks to all who wrote me about my philosophical question.  I have sent in
my essay and my characters argued over a flat earth.  I don't know how long
it will be before I get me grade.  Hopefully, it will be a good one !  :)

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Taking online classes through UCFV

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Re: [lace-chat] Language question

[H. Muth]

Tamara,

It's called a compass rose.  Here's a website that tells of it's origins.

http://www.gisnet.com/notebook/comprose.html

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where we are having unseasonable warm weather.


At 09:59 PM 28/09/2003 -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:
>Gentle Spiders,
>
>I need help...
>
>What's the English term -- *is* there an English term? -- for the 
>"do-dad" that used to show up on old maps? It looks like what one sees 
>on a compass: a convergence of rhombuses (rhombi?), usually 8, 
>sometimes 16, but at least 4, each pointing to a different direction.
>

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Re: [lace-chat] Philosophical Question

[H. Muth]

Thanks Noelene, I'll work on that.  This has to be in next week and my
brain refuses to function!

Heather
>
>How about "That the earth is flat" 
>
>Noelene in Cooma

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Re: [lace-chat] Philosophical Question

[H. Muth]

Thanks, Linda.  I only have a page and a half in which to do my play.  And
it must be a play.  Hopefully we will be marked on content not style.  :)

Heather


At 09:17 PM 26/09/2003 +0100, Linda Walton wrote:
>Dear Heather,

>I suggest you model your play on one of the Socratic dialogues by Plato.
Perhaps a scene in "The Symposium", or something in the early part of "The
Republic" will catch your attention and set your imagination running?

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[lace-chat] Philosophical Question

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I need help.  I have to write a short play for my philosophy class in which
one character has all the rational strength and one all the rhetorical
strength.  I'm using Bugs Bunny and Porky Pig as my characters (they came
ready-made and I don't have the imagination to create my own).  However,
for the life of me, I cannot think of a topic!  I have a tremendous cold
and can't think properly.  I'm looking for something light-hearted, but for
which there is a definite right answer - ie not 'is Pepsi or Coke better'.
Does anyone have any ideas for me?  

TIA,
Heather
Abbotsford,
Warm and sunny - altogether a pleasant day.  

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[lace-chat] Thin bodies in low rises

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

My daughter takes after her father, tall and slender.  She has several
pairs of these pants and they look great on her.  However, long ago (she's
almost 13 now) I threatened to pierce any thing I saw between pants and
shirt.  She was horrifed at the thought and has so far kept the tops long
enough.  I'm pretty sure that at some date she will take me up on the
challenge but so far it is 'awful' enough to keep her covered up.  

Reverse psychology works!

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where we are getting some rain but need lots more.

>
I've
>yet to see one who doesn't have at least a small roll of fat overhanging the
>top of the trousers.
>

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[lace-chat] Computer Help Needed

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I need some computer help.  I have IE 6.0.2800 and I just reformatted my
computer.  Since then I installed Java Plug-in Software from Sun
Microsystems.  However, some Java applets won't run because I don't have
Microsoft's own Java program (can't remember it's name).  Now because of
the legal java situation I can't find a copy of MS's program.  Can anyone
help me?  Tell me where to switch Java programs on my browser?  Or do I
have to change to Netscape?  Except I can't use Netscape for everything
because my internet schooling uses IE.

Thanks for any help,
Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where we have had almost the driest 3 months on record.

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[lace-chat] Reading by Candle light

[H. Muth]

Hello, all,

I have to admit to being amused by the comments about not being able to
read with only one candle when we as lacers have the answer already.  I
have made a makeshift lacemaking lamp by using a candle and a globe shaped
vase, or even a glass (which gives a narrow, vertical beam).  The concept
does work even with my 'primitive' equipment.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where the weather is overcast - much improved by my standards - not so hot.

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[lace-chat] Summer Reading

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I haven't seen mention of my favourite author, Angela Thirkell.  She writes
chronicles of Barsetshire, the fictional county about which Anthony
Trollope first wrote.  Thirkell's books are witty and span a period of 30
years, continuing the family histories that Trollope started.  

Other authors I read are Gerald Durrell with his tales of zoos and animals,
Jane Duncan who writes the 'My Friend' series, anything Agatha Christie,
Dorothy Sayers, PG Wodehouse...obviously I rarely read anything by current
authors.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where today it has cooled down enough to be just bearable.
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Re: [lace-chat] Stars in their eyes

[H. Muth]

Cher, Susan Sarandon, Sigourney Weaver, my sisters-in-law Bev and Carrie,
and many others I'm sure.  Not me, although my husband is.  :)

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Another hot one on the way.
>
>So - which *woman* is "better looking
>as she gets older" ? Or maybe *we* haven't
>*earned* 'equal treatment/rights' yet . . .
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[lace-chat] Angela's Adventures

[H. Muth]

Forgive me Angela for treading on your turf, but curiosity lead me to this
site showing the Kalasha people.  I need to see pictures to make things
come alive for me.

http://www.babylontravel.net/english/ecology/e-frame_kalash.htm

Heather 
Abbotsford, BC
Sunny and going to be very hot.
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[lace-chat] Hunky Stars

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

I'm not one for adoring the stars, finding the characters they play more to
my liking.  I learned long ago not to look at the actor's fan site as the
real picture of him would usually destroy any liking I had (exception
Harrison Ford, although I really prefer Hans Solo).  Therefore my list
includes Aragorn (Viggo Mortenson in Lord of the Rings), Legolas (Orlando
Bloom in ditto), as of last night Captain Jack Sparrow (Johnny Depp in
Pirates of the Carribean), Agent J (Will Smith in Men in Black I & II), Tim
Allen in Galaxy Quest (can't remember his character's name) and Shrek (Shrek).

I've always liked both Hepburns and Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth R, Maggie
Smith in anything, Dame Judy Dench in anything.

I really don't watch alot of movies.  I used to average one a year (in the
theatre) or even 1 every two years.  But now that the children are in their
early teens our movie watching has increased by leaps and bounds!

Heather 
Abbotsford BC
Sunny and going to be hot.
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[lace-chat] Borrowers

[H. Muth]

Rather upscale Borrowers decorating with gold!  What could they have been
using them for?  Lawn bowling for the wealthy?  Solid discs as chargers?
Serving platters?

I really can't imagine what use they'd have for earrings.  

Heather 
Abbotsford, BC
Sunny but not too hot
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Re: [lace-chat] List quiet?

[H. Muth]

Well, it is obviously not me!  I imagine all our American friends are out
enjoying watermelon, parades and fireworks.  Here in Abbotsford we are
having the "Berry Fest".  We are the raspberry capital of BC! We also grow
alot of blueberries and strawberries in the valley as well, therefore the
festival.  

For me, it only means I have to leave for work a little earlier so that I
can find a parking space.

What other interesting and quirky festivals are there out there?

Heather
Abbotsford, BC


At 12:57 PM 04/07/2003 -0700, H. Muth wrote:
>Sorry all,
>
>I haven't received any lace letters since yesterday.  
>
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[lace-chat] List quiet?

[H. Muth]

Sorry all,

I haven't received any lace letters since yesterday.  That is unusual for
this list, so I thought I'd check to see if I was still subscribed.  
I have no lace content to add as I've been busy with embroidery at the
moment.  

Have a Happy 4th you Americans,

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Fresh from our celebrations of the 1st!
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[lace-chat] Finding Nemo

[H. Muth]

Hello all,

We have recently seen 'Finding Nemo' and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if a
certain line from the movie was included in all versions of it.  The fish
population are incensed that a small fish has been stolen from its home on
the reef.  While discussing it with a few sharks (see the movie!) one says
"People think they own everything" (or something like that.  Another
replies "Yeah, must be Americans".  Is this line in the American version of
the movie?  Or has it been altered as per 'The Philospher's Stone'?

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Where today was borderline too hot.

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