Re: [LU] Fulham

[Robert Heath]

Well.the next 4 games are L/pool (a), B/mouth (h), Tott
(a), Man C (h).

Since we are going to lose 3 of those anyway, we might as well lose 'em
under marsch rather than give Sam Allardyce, sorry, the new guy a nightmare
start. Hopefully, they are already sounding out candidates to bring in
after Haaland leaves Llorente strung up from the goalposts.

On the other hand...it's a real buyer's market at the moment with
Wolves & Vanilla both looking for a new manager. Maybe we ought to join
that fight before they snap up Steve Bruce?

FWIW, if they gave ME the job (and they could do worse - see above!) I'd
switch to 5-2-3RK1, Coops, Cormoran Strike at the
back.Ayling & yes Firpo as wingbacks..Adams and walker's
favourite in the middleAronson, Gelhardt & Sini across the
front.

P.P.S. And yeah..Rocky. Described on here as "contributing
nothing" I think...yeah, nothing. Well, except for one amazing
goalline block and an excellent contribution to our first goal.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:59 AM nattan--- via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> The end of the Marsch era is surely nigh? Things cannot go on like this,
> no organisation,  no cutting edge, no idea and subject to individual and
> collective errors
> The mood pre game was fairly dire, we did not expect much ( and did not
> get much) the only question was would a victory be enough to save Marsch.
> We will never know.
> Fulham cut us open very early on and the ball went past Meslier but two
> defenders ( Roca and Koch) gave it their all and saved the situation,
> perhaps the players were still behind the manager.  Things got better when
> a lovely ball by aaronson and a great first touch by Harrison gave him a
> clear shot on goal, the defender blocked it but it looped up for Rodrigo to
> head home,  one up and a bit of belief swept through the stadium ,
> unfortunately it was short lived.A corner and I was shouting " why the fuck
> is Ayling marking Mitrovic, what are you doing " Next thing a near post
> corner and Mitro beats Ayling,  what a surprise- NOT ( as they used to say)
> Fulham had a few more chances that went begging but we actually had a
> chance to get back in front but Bamford,  having a nightmare time of it,
> fluffed his opportunity. Then game over;  a cross with no-one putting
> pressure on the ball went to a totally unmarked player who glanced it home.
> The game and Marsch's Leeds career was then put to bed as a Fulham player
> waltzed through our defence 1-3.
> Joffy was given 6minutes to make something happen and he did, laying on a
> goal for Summerville but why is he not starting so we can all see if he is
> the real deal?
> So another home defeat, more boos from the crowd and we are bottom three.
> I dont like the managerial merry go round but what option is there- we
> have a team of decent players but no system and no idea.
> As the song goes " time to go " , the only question is do we sack him now,
> after Liverpool or wait till the break for the world cup ?Dave
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[LU] Fulham

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

The end of the Marsch era is surely nigh? Things cannot go on like this, no 
organisation,  no cutting edge, no idea and subject to individual and 
collective errors 
The mood pre game was fairly dire, we did not expect much ( and did not get 
much) the only question was would a victory be enough to save Marsch. We will 
never know.
Fulham cut us open very early on and the ball went past Meslier but two 
defenders ( Roca and Koch) gave it their all and saved the situation,  perhaps 
the players were still behind the manager.  Things got better when a lovely 
ball by aaronson and a great first touch by Harrison gave him a clear shot on 
goal, the defender blocked it but it looped up for Rodrigo to head home,  one 
up and a bit of belief swept through the stadium , unfortunately it was short 
lived.A corner and I was shouting " why the fuck is Ayling marking Mitrovic, 
what are you doing " Next thing a near post corner and Mitro beats Ayling,  
what a surprise- NOT ( as they used to say) 
Fulham had a few more chances that went begging but we actually had a chance to 
get back in front but Bamford,  having a nightmare time of it, fluffed his 
opportunity. Then game over;  a cross with no-one putting pressure on the ball 
went to a totally unmarked player who glanced it home. The game and Marsch's 
Leeds career was then put to bed as a Fulham player waltzed through our defence 
1-3. 
Joffy was given 6minutes to make something happen and he did, laying on a goal 
for Summerville but why is he not starting so we can all see if he is the real 
deal?
So another home defeat, more boos from the crowd and we are bottom three.
I dont like the managerial merry go round but what option is there- we have a 
team of decent players but no system and no idea.
As the song goes " time to go " , the only question is do we sack him now, 
after Liverpool or wait till the break for the world cup ?Dave 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

I missed Roca’s score 
3 - fucking shit 


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On Sunday, October 23, 2022, 7:50 pm, Michael Benjamin  wrote:

The tactics are appalling; he is playing to weaknesses and not strengths. The 
very idea is bloody stupid -- you do not lower your chances by funnelling your 
attack through the middle. You funnel the opponents' defence, too-- making 
their life easier. 
Bielsa had swarming tactics based on mobility -- this twerp does the opposite. 
I never saw players run out of puff; they always do it with an 'undertraining' 
wannabe. 
Bielsa knew who his best men were and 'allowed' bad games. With Wild Bill 
Hicock, they get binned in a flash of an eye. 
With Bielsa, the defence was muddled because of his one-on-one marking. It was 
easily outthought, and we needed an answer. Sacking him and changing the system 
was not the answer. JM was supposed to add to Bielsa by solving the defence. 
He has not solved the defence, wholly fucked up Bielsa's basic attacking 
methods with an idiot version of oversimplification ad absurdum. 
No one has a clue who is doing what, where and when. And if anyone does, then 
it immediately changes. In short, chaos with a load of buys that we will have 
to sell at a loss.
Not only will we go down with this charlatan, but we will not come up again-- 
there is no way his lunacy will do better in any league.  
Get rid ASAP



Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
Community Psychiatrist.
Oranit,
ISRAEL

SKYPE: BEDENOGA
PHONE: +972-505-317772
Online CBT ||  Online Consultations 
BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. 



-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Walker via 
Leedslist
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 9:35 PM
To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: [LU] Fulham

Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is played though the 
middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. Harrison is playing 
centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the wings. We started 
positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just initial energy and 
as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world beaters but 
they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We don’t. In 
Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where the net is 
and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near post.Jessie 
decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m assuming Adams 
was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate Town never mind 
premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in midfield. Our 
goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on Rodrigo’s head 3 
yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got more as Fulham gad 
a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 29 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came in and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is 
played though the middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. 
Harrison is playing centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the 
wings. We started positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just 
energy and as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world 
beaters but they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We 
don’t. In Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where 
the net is and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near 
post.Jessie decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m 
assuming Adams was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate 
Town never mind premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in 
midfield. Our goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on 
Rodrigo’s head 3 yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got 
more as Fulham gad a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe 
from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 20 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came on and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think he will be on 99 goals for the rest of his life. Fulham then 
dominated and got their two goals  to seal the win. Jimmy got a consolation 
late on and I’m glad he did cos he looked sharp and there’s no doubt this lad 
has got something, I’m just not sure Jessie is the manager to get it out of him.
Overall, very disappointing.
Scores:
Meslier - 6 decent 1on 1 saveAyling - 6 I thought he looked good but Ivyhink he 
was marking Mitrovic.Struijk - 6 Coooer - 6Koch - 6Greenwood -3. Severely out 
of his depthRoca - 5. What is this guy offering ? Yes he’s got a  nice left 
foot but he has no presence and just doesn’t offer enough. Makes Philips look

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Michael Benjamin]

The tactics are appalling; he is playing to weaknesses and not strengths. The 
very idea is bloody stupid -- you do not lower your chances by funnelling your 
attack through the middle. You funnel the opponents' defence, too-- making 
their life easier. 
Bielsa had swarming tactics based on mobility -- this twerp does the opposite. 
I never saw players run out of puff; they always do it with an 'undertraining' 
wannabe. 
Bielsa knew who his best men were and 'allowed' bad games. With Wild Bill 
Hicock, they get binned in a flash of an eye. 
With Bielsa, the defence was muddled because of his one-on-one marking. It was 
easily outthought, and we needed an answer. Sacking him and changing the system 
was not the answer. JM was supposed to add to Bielsa by solving the defence. 
He has not solved the defence, wholly fucked up Bielsa's basic attacking 
methods with an idiot version of oversimplification ad absurdum. 
No one has a clue who is doing what, where and when. And if anyone does, then 
it immediately changes. In short, chaos with a load of buys that we will have 
to sell at a loss.
Not only will we go down with this charlatan, but we will not come up again-- 
there is no way his lunacy will do better in any league.  
Get rid ASAP



Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
Community Psychiatrist.
Oranit,
ISRAEL

SKYPE: BEDENOGA
PHONE: +972-505-317772
Online CBT ||   Online Consultations 
BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. 



-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Walker via 
Leedslist
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 9:35 PM
To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: [LU] Fulham

Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is played though the 
middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. Harrison is playing 
centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the wings. We started 
positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just initial energy and 
as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world beaters but 
they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We don’t. In 
Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where the net is 
and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near post.Jessie 
decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m assuming Adams 
was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate Town never mind 
premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in midfield. Our 
goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on Rodrigo’s head 3 
yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got more as Fulham gad 
a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 29 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came in and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is 
played though the middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. 
Harrison is playing centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the 
wings. We started positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just 
energy and as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world 
beaters but they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We 
don’t. In Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where 
the net is and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near 
post.Jessie decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m 
assuming Adams was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate 
Town never mind premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in 
midfield. Our goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on 
Rodrigo’s head 3 yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got 
more as Fulham gad a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe 
from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 20 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came on and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think he will be on 99 goals for the rest of his life. Fulham then 
dominated and got their two goals  to seal the win. Jimmy got a consolation 
late on and I’m glad he did cos he looked sharp and there’s no doubt this lad 
has got something, I’m just not sure Jessie is the manager to get it out of him.
Overall, very disappointing.
Scores:
Meslier - 6 decent 1on 1 saveAyling - 6 I thought he looked good but Ivyhink he 
was marking Mitrovic.Struijk - 6 Coooer - 6Koch - 6Greenwood -3. Severely out 
of his depthRoca - 5. What is this guy offering ? Yes he’s got a  nice left 
foot but he has no presence and just doesn’t offer enough. Makes Philips look 
dynamic.Harrison - 5. Struggling in this formation.Rodrigo - 5 frustrating as 
ever Sinistera-6. Lively first half without threatening.
Subs Bamford

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Jim Moran]

Jaipur in the bankers cat is practically the best pint in Leeds.

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 at 19:37, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Bit of a pissed effort that report - I. Blame the Jaipur in the Bankers cat
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Sunday, October 23, 2022, 7:35 pm, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is played though
> the middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. Harrison is
> playing centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the
> wings. We started positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was
> just initial energy and as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham
> are no world beaters but they gave some really decent players and look like
> a team. We don’t. In Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he
> knows where the net is and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at
> the near post.Jessie decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central
> midfield. I’m assuming Adams was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up
> against Harrogate Town never mind premier league opposition. We were
> totally overrun by Fulham in midfield. Our goal was a bit of a fluke as a
> deflected shot ended up on Rodrigo’s head 3 yards out.They scored from a
> corner and then could have got more as Fulham gad a breakaway one on one
> chance to take the lead. Good safe from Meslier.
> Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 29 mins
> without really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came in and Bamford missed
> his chance again. I think Really poor today. Tactics again failing us.
> Everything is played though the middle and has to be 100% accurate or the
> move breaks down. Harrison is playing centrally and we know if anything his
> best work is down the wings. We started positively and came out of the
> blocks fast but that was just energy and as soon as that ran out Fulham
> took control. Fulham are no world beaters but they gave some really decent
> players and look like a team. We don’t. In Mitrovic they have a big
> cheating lump up front but he knows where the net is and he isn’t going to
> refuse the gift we gave him at the near post.Jessie decided to go with
> Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m assuming Adams was injured.
> That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate Town never mind premier
> league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in midfield. Our goal
> was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on Rodrigo’s head 3 yards
> out.They scored from a corner and then could have got more as Fulham gad a
> breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe from Meslier.
> Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 20 mins
> without really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came on and Bamford missed
> his chance again. I think he will be on 99 goals for the rest of his
> life. Fulham then dominated and got their two goals  to seal the win. Jimmy
> got a consolation late on and I’m glad he did cos he looked sharp and
> there’s no doubt this lad has got something, I’m just not sure Jessie is
> the manager to get it out of him.
> Overall, very disappointing.
> Scores:
> Meslier - 6 decent 1on 1 saveAyling - 6 I thought he looked good but
> Ivyhink he was marking Mitrovic.Struijk - 6 Coooer - 6Koch - 6Greenwood -3.
> Severely out of his depthRoca - 5. What is this guy offering ? Yes he’s got
> a  nice left foot but he has no presence and just doesn’t offer enough.
> Makes Philips look dynamic.Harrison - 5. Struggling in this
> formation.Rodrigo - 5 frustrating as ever Sinistera-6. Lively first half
> without threatening.
> Subs Bamford - missed chanceKlich - bitsJoffy - no opportunity
> What happened in the  cheese wedge ? Looked like a medical emergency but
> why does the game have to stop ? Every medical incident these days seems to
> result in the game being stopped ? The fans were going mad.
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Bit of a pissed effort that report - I. Blame the Jaipur in the Bankers cat


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, October 23, 2022, 7:35 pm, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is played though the 
middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. Harrison is playing 
centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the wings. We started 
positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just initial energy and 
as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world beaters but 
they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We don’t. In 
Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where the net is 
and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near post.Jessie 
decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m assuming Adams 
was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate Town never mind 
premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in midfield. Our 
goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on Rodrigo’s head 3 
yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got more as Fulham gad 
a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 29 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came in and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is 
played though the middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. 
Harrison is playing centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the 
wings. We started positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just 
energy and as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world 
beaters but they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We 
don’t. In Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where 
the net is and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near 
post.Jessie decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m 
assuming Adams was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate 
Town never mind premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in 
midfield. Our goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on 
Rodrigo’s head 3 yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got 
more as Fulham gad a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe 
from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 20 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came on and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think he will be on 99 goals for the rest of his life. Fulham then 
dominated and got their two goals  to seal the win. Jimmy got a consolation 
late on and I’m glad he did cos he looked sharp and there’s no doubt this lad 
has got something, I’m just not sure Jessie is the manager to get it out of him.
Overall, very disappointing.
Scores: 
Meslier - 6 decent 1on 1 saveAyling - 6 I thought he looked good but Ivyhink he 
was marking Mitrovic.Struijk - 6 Coooer - 6Koch - 6Greenwood -3. Severely out 
of his depthRoca - 5. What is this guy offering ? Yes he’s got a  nice left 
foot but he has no presence and just doesn’t offer enough. Makes Philips look 
dynamic.Harrison - 5. Struggling in this formation.Rodrigo - 5 frustrating as 
ever Sinistera-6. Lively first half without threatening.
Subs Bamford - missed chanceKlich - bitsJoffy - no opportunity 
What happened in the  cheese wedge ? Looked like a medical emergency but why 
does the game have to stop ? Every medical incident these days seems to result 
in the game being stopped ? The fans were going mad.
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[LU] Fulham

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is played though the 
middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. Harrison is playing 
centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the wings. We started 
positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just initial energy and 
as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world beaters but 
they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We don’t. In 
Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where the net is 
and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near post.Jessie 
decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m assuming Adams 
was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate Town never mind 
premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in midfield. Our 
goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on Rodrigo’s head 3 
yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got more as Fulham gad 
a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 29 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came in and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think Really poor today. Tactics again failing us. Everything is 
played though the middle and has to be 100% accurate or the move breaks down. 
Harrison is playing centrally and we know if anything his best work is down the 
wings. We started positively and came out of the blocks fast but that was just 
energy and as soon as that ran out Fulham took control. Fulham are no world 
beaters but they gave some really decent players and look like a team. We 
don’t. In Mitrovic they have a big cheating lump up front but he knows where 
the net is and he isn’t going to refuse the gift we gave him at the near 
post.Jessie decided to go with Greenwood and Roca in central midfield. I’m 
assuming Adams was injured. That midfield wouldn’t stand up against Harrogate 
Town never mind premier league opposition. We were totally overrun by Fulham in 
midfield. Our goal was a bit of a fluke as a deflected shot ended up on 
Rodrigo’s head 3 yards out.They scored from a corner and then could have got 
more as Fulham gad a breakaway one on one chance to take the lead. Good safe 
from Meslier.
Second half we came out strong and were the better team for 20 mins without 
really threatening. Bamford and Jimmy came on and Bamford missed his chance 
again. I think he will be on 99 goals for the rest of his life. Fulham then 
dominated and got their two goals  to seal the win. Jimmy got a consolation 
late on and I’m glad he did cos he looked sharp and there’s no doubt this lad 
has got something, I’m just not sure Jessie is the manager to get it out of him.
Overall, very disappointing.
Scores: 
Meslier - 6 decent 1on 1 saveAyling - 6 I thought he looked good but Ivyhink he 
was marking Mitrovic.Struijk - 6 Coooer - 6Koch - 6Greenwood -3. Severely out 
of his depthRoca - 5. What is this guy offering ? Yes he’s got a  nice left 
foot but he has no presence and just doesn’t offer enough. Makes Philips look 
dynamic.Harrison - 5. Struggling in this formation.Rodrigo - 5 frustrating as 
ever Sinistera-6. Lively first half without threatening.
Subs Bamford - missed chanceKlich - bitsJoffy - no opportunity 
What happened in the  cheese wedge ? Looked like a medical emergency but why 
does the game have to stop ? Every medical incident these days seems to result 
in the game being stopped ? The fans were going mad.
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Re: [LU] Fulham from the arm chair

[MATTHEW GAYNOR via Leedslist]

Firpo has got a bit of the Didier Domi's about him - in that he keeps 
popping up in places (centre mid, right wing) where you dont expect him 
to.
I think he'll be ok, between an injury / COVID and the team constantly 
changing around him, he's not really had a consistent run.


Cresswell was the main bonus yesterday.  Gelhardt got muscled out of it 
a bit.


Was amused by the Fulham fan near us (in Fulham end) who complained to a 
steward about a couple Leeds fans being in the wrong place at the start 
of the game, who gradually realised there were a lot of Leeds fans in 
that bit and decided to keep quiet thereafter.


Matt

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Subject: [LU] Fulham from the arm chair
Scores:
Firpo - 4. I've give a full mark for his pen which was out of this world 
but overall his defending was non existant and when he did get forward 
his final ball was hopeless. He looks a bit fitter and he's certainly 
looks the part but he's yet to deliver


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[LU] Fulham from the arm chair

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Great to see the young lads keep their nerve in the penalty shoot out 
especially when our old guard lost theirs (Dallas, Forshaw).
I thought the first 45 mins were decent and I enjoyed watching us try to break 
fast and create chances. Fulham had a few chances but on the whole Cresswell 
and Philips kept them at bay. I was hoping to see us push on in the 2nd half 
but we didn't and to be honest I think that's one of the few times I've seen a 
Bielsa team struggle to get the ball from defence to attack. I've never seen so 
many aimless long balls played by a Bielsa team because there was no midfield. 
Poor Cresswell was left with the ball at the back with no options time and time 
again. Why it wasn't given to Philips, our Glen Hoddle, nobody knows ? I think 
the players who don't play often ran out of steam (Shack, Summerville) and our 
established team players didn't produce. I was particularly disapointed with 
Klich, Dallas and Firpo who yet again had another stinker. Glad that Bielsa 
called it out as a poor performance overall and to be honest we were lucky to 
get through BUT we did and Wemb-er-ley here we come. 
Scores:
Miesler - 7. Won us the game with the penalty save but I thought he went way 
too early on most of the pens. Spilled a shot first half but overall did ok. 
Dallas - 3. Missed pen and really didn't figure in the match. Got a knock but 
he has started slowly in this campaign and I'm hoping he can return to the form 
of last season. 
Firpo - 4. I've give a full mark for his pen which was out of this world but 
overall his defending was non existant and when he did get forward his final 
ball was hopeless. He looks a bit fitter and he's certainly looks the part but 
he's yet to deliver 
Cresswell - 7. Tough game for the las but he came through it and out of all the 
youngsters I think he deserves the most credit. He did all the defending and 
was asked time and time again to distribute the ball. Yes there were one or two 
moments but he looks promising. I wouldn't start him against the Hammers 
though. 
Philips - 5. Don't like him at Centre back cos he's not. I thought he did ok 
first half but 2nd half he looked a tad lost and his long ball passing all 
night was poor. 
Shackleton - 5. Huffed and puffed, ran around but didn't influence the game 
from the centre of the park and probably answered the question of why he isn't 
in the team more often from the start. 
Klich - 3. Really poor. In a game like this you expect him to be one of our key 
men but the fact he wasn't along with Dallas probably explains why we 
struggled. 
James - 5. One or two good runs / moves but overall ineffective. 
Summerville - 5. Similar to James and there's no doubt that on the ball he 
looks dynamic but as a team player he is nothing at the moment. His link up 
play and awareness of his team mates is totally lacking. This lad has ability 
but he's got a long way to go. I could see him being a last 10 min sub for a 
while yet. 
Rodrigo - 6. The highlight of the whole match for me was seeing Rodrigo sprint 
up and down the pitch showing that he is getting fit and is actually quite 
quick when he gets moving. Yes not everything came off (actually most didn't) 
but he's got the ability and if matched to a decent level of fitness maybe he 
is about to deliver ? 
Roberts - 4. This was his chance but apart from a couple of blocked shots and a 
half chance he didn't and that's the story of Robert's Leeds career. A lot of 
given up on him, I haven't but he needs to grab his chances. 
Subs:
Gelhardt - did he touch the ball ? we played a load of high balls to him and 
he's 4ft 10. Waste of a debut but he put his pen away so nobody can ask for 
anymore than that 
Mckinsay - I liked the look of this lad and he put his pen away 
Forshaw - I haven't played competitive football for 10 years since a knee op 
but I suspect if I came back against West Ham on Saturday I'd play in a similar 
fashion to what Forshaw did last night. Slow, steady, unispiring, ineffective 
and if they asked me to take a pen I'd probably blast it over the bar. He 
doesn't look anywhere near ready to me on that showing. 
On to the Hammers  ...  

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Re: [LU] Fulham vs Leeds Highlights

[nigel]

I'm not sure I've ever seen highlights that didn't show a single, normal-time 
chance for one of the teams before? We did have chances, right?  I mean, I 
watched the game - I didn't dream Rodrigo missing those efforts did I?

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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To: leedslist 
Subject: [LU] Fulham vs Leeds Highlights

Hopefully everyone can see this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJu9CbnwNxcSent 
from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40..
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[LU] Fulham vs Leeds Highlights

[john]

Hopefully everyone can see this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJu9CbnwNxcSent 
from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40..
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[LU] LU: Fulham on Tuesday

[mick.robinson6969]

Long shot but if anyone has a spare for Tomorrow it would be appreciated. 

 

One of my friends missed out ☹

 

Thanks

 

Mick

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[John Lee via Leedslist]

One odd ‘feature’ of both Ayling and Alioski’s games is that when they make a 
mistake, they immediately fall over looking for a foul. Ayling did it when he 
lost the Fulham centre back, and Alioski does it so often I’m surprised he 
hasn’t been in a Daz advert yet?

Strange moment for Ayling too when it looked like he was running on empty and 
needed an energy bar - low blood sugar - he seemed to be saying he was having a 
wobble?

Nice to see the Steve Bruce effect is working its’ magic again ;-) Whilst 
Fulham didn’t show much against us they look a better team than Newcastle. 



> On 20 Mar 2021, at 11:39, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> I met Lorimer a few times.sat with him through a match at Palace one
> year. Very nice man.
> 
> I am STILL furious about his stolen goal in Paris. Apart from winning us
> the match (which I have no doubt it would have BC their 2 late goals would
> never have happened) he would have set a record as the only player to have
> scored in every round of the European Cup.
> 
> I think my favourite Lorimer goal was v Man City when he tried to lift the
> ball over a defender 25 yds from goal.. the ball clipped the lads
> shoulder and looped up in the air so he thought bugger it and just lashed
> an incredible dipping volley past Corrigan into the top corner.
> 
> I also loved his unique penalties...he would just blast it basically at
> the keeper but wd slice across it slightly to send it into the top corner.
> 
> Re Fulham I thought the 2nd goal was superb..some lovely touches from
> Bamford and Raphinha.
> 
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, 11:12 nattan--- via Leedslist, 
> wrote:
> 
>> Not much to disagree with there- we were well on top till our Achilles
>> heel cost us a goal, we need to sort this out, a straight forward corner
>> into the box and they score. After that we were really at sea and I was
>> pleased to hear the half time whistle.  Second half we were mainly in
>> control and were the likely winners.So a win in London,  Bamford sticking
>> it to southgate and Meslier showing again what a tremendous prospect he
>> is,  he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about
>> Robinson at the same age,  though Meslier does seem more composed and
>> resilient
>> Once again the game was marred by VAR , I was ecstatic when Ayling scored
>> then after a long long wait , various lines were drawn and it was chalked
>> off, Robert's nipple, like Costas knee and Bamfords finger before being
>> enough to cancel a goal . " clear and obvious " you have to be f-ing
>> joking. The 'goal' by Raph if it had been given is tailor made for VAR ,
>> one look and offside given, job done. If you have to draw lines ( which are
>> not even accurate) and resort to slo mo, it is not by definition clear and
>> obvious.  It needs sorting , it really is spoiling the match experience.
>> If a VAR decision is the talking point then something is wrong , it is
>> supposed to eliminate controversy not start it . I am still fuming ,
>> DavePS RIP hotshot/ lash Peter Lorimer,  his 2 records will not be beaten
>> in my lifetime,  youngest ever and most goals.  I met him briefly in
>> Prague,  for slavia Prague game, and he was a real gent ( yes things went
>> bad for him under Bates etc) another real legend that deserves a stand.
>> When we go back there are so many to mourn / celebrate,him, Jack, Norman
>> and Trevor.
>> 
>>On Saturday, 20 March 2021, 10:49:26 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We came out of the blocks at 100 mph which we tend to do and Fulham like
>> a number of clubs just couldn't live with us. We had our usual goals
>> chalked off by VAR before Bamford scored what I'd consider to be a typical
>> Bamford goal and one that he's beginning to make look easy. As for the VAR
>> 'goals' I've stopped celebrating and jumping around the living room like an
>> idiot because it's just nto worth it. I can't imagine what that might do to
>> the atmosphere in the ground. Football is being slowly strangled by VAR.
>> One up and continuing to look dangerous it suddenly went all wrong and not
>> for the first time this season. A set piece as usual, Ayling loses his man
>> and it's 1-1. The game is then turned on its head and where struggling to
>> hold on to half-time and have our amazing young keeper to thank whose saves
>> just get better every game. He's turning into a top keeper. There doesn't
>> appear to be any improvement in the set piece defensive organisation. It's
>> worrying.
>> 2nd half to our credit we began to take control again and looked dangerous
>> on the counter attack. With improved last balls and finishing we could have
>> buried them but we didn't and as usual we continued to look very shaky from
>> set pieces. Rapha's goal sealed the win and overall I think we deserved it
>> but we've got a massive job to do on set pieces and it needs to be
>> addressed this season. We are back to the pre Garry Monk days when we
>> looked like and 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

 Surprised it was that many - i take some of it back then - v Barcelona I 
thought he would be the best keeper ever, then he became if not a liability a 
bit of a problem in our relegation season especially with long range 
shotsHowever good Robbo  was ( or not) I think Meslier has the skill to be 
better , needs to work on corners a bit mind you Dave
On Saturday, 20 March 2021, 13:01:20 GMT, alan.edgar--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
  > he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about Robinson 
at the same age

Robbo got 41 caps making him the 8th most capped England keeper - I'd say 
that's top top quality given those ahead of him are the likes of Shilton, 
Banks, Clemence and Seaman.
 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Alan Edgar via Leedslist]

I guess Lukic winning the league with both us and the Ar$e should count for 
something - he also wasn’t likely to get a game for England with Seaman and 
Woods around.

Robbo went 655 minutes without conceding a goal for England including during 
WC06 so maybe he was at his best for Spurs, not us.

> On 20 Mar 2021, at 13:14, Richard Walker  wrote:
> 
>  I’m surprised at that stat - I can’t remember him playing for England too 
> many times although I’m not the biggest England fan.
> 
> If think back to my top 3 Leeds keepers it wouldn’t have Robbo in it.
> 
> 1. Harvey
> 2. Martyn 
> 3. Lukic
> 
> —-
> On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 1:01 pm, alan.edgar--- via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
> > he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about Robinson 
> > at the same age
> 
> Robbo got 41 caps making him the 8th most capped England keeper - I'd say 
> that's top top quality given those ahead of him are the likes of Shilton, 
> Banks, Clemence and Seaman
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

I’m surprised at that stat - I can’t remember him playing for England too many 
times although I’m not the biggest England fan.
If think back to my top 3 Leeds keepers it wouldn’t have Robbo in it.
1. Harvey2. Martyn 3. Lukic



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On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 1:01 pm, alan.edgar--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 > he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about Robinson 
 > at the same age

Robbo got 41 caps making him the 8th most capped England keeper - I'd say 
that's top top quality given those ahead of him are the likes of Shilton, 
Banks, Clemence and Seaman.
 
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[LU] Fulham

[alan.edgar--- via Leedslist]

 > he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about Robinson 
 > at the same age

Robbo got 41 caps making him the 8th most capped England keeper - I'd say 
that's top top quality given those ahead of him are the likes of Shilton, 
Banks, Clemence and Seaman.
 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Robert Heath]

They just showed that goal v City on Football Focus.along with
several other classics.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 11:39 AM Robert Heath 
wrote:

> I met Lorimer a few times.sat with him through a match at Palace one
> year. Very nice man.
>
> I am STILL furious about his stolen goal in Paris. Apart from winning us
> the match (which I have no doubt it would have BC their 2 late goals would
> never have happened) he would have set a record as the only player to have
> scored in every round of the European Cup.
>
> I think my favourite Lorimer goal was v Man City when he tried to lift the
> ball over a defender 25 yds from goal.. the ball clipped the lads
> shoulder and looped up in the air so he thought bugger it and just lashed
> an incredible dipping volley past Corrigan into the top corner.
>
> I also loved his unique penalties...he would just blast it basically
> at the keeper but wd slice across it slightly to send it into the top
> corner.
>
> Re Fulham I thought the 2nd goal was superb..some lovely touches from
> Bamford and Raphinha.
>
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, 11:12 nattan--- via Leedslist, 
> wrote:
>
>>  Not much to disagree with there- we were well on top till our Achilles
>> heel cost us a goal, we need to sort this out, a straight forward corner
>> into the box and they score. After that we were really at sea and I was
>> pleased to hear the half time whistle.  Second half we were mainly in
>> control and were the likely winners.So a win in London,  Bamford sticking
>> it to southgate and Meslier showing again what a tremendous prospect he
>> is,  he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about
>> Robinson at the same age,  though Meslier does seem more composed and
>> resilient
>> Once again the game was marred by VAR , I was ecstatic when Ayling scored
>> then after a long long wait , various lines were drawn and it was chalked
>> off, Robert's nipple, like Costas knee and Bamfords finger before being
>> enough to cancel a goal . " clear and obvious " you have to be f-ing
>> joking. The 'goal' by Raph if it had been given is tailor made for VAR ,
>> one look and offside given, job done. If you have to draw lines ( which are
>> not even accurate) and resort to slo mo, it is not by definition clear and
>> obvious.  It needs sorting , it really is spoiling the match experience.
>> If a VAR decision is the talking point then something is wrong , it is
>> supposed to eliminate controversy not start it . I am still fuming ,
>> DavePS RIP hotshot/ lash Peter Lorimer,  his 2 records will not be beaten
>> in my lifetime,  youngest ever and most goals.  I met him briefly in
>> Prague,  for slavia Prague game, and he was a real gent ( yes things went
>> bad for him under Bates etc) another real legend that deserves a stand.
>> When we go back there are so many to mourn / celebrate,him, Jack, Norman
>> and Trevor.
>>
>> On Saturday, 20 March 2021, 10:49:26 GMT, Richard Walker via
>> Leedslist  wrote:
>>
>>  We came out of the blocks at 100 mph which we tend to do and Fulham like
>> a number of clubs just couldn't live with us. We had our usual goals
>> chalked off by VAR before Bamford scored what I'd consider to be a typical
>> Bamford goal and one that he's beginning to make look easy. As for the VAR
>> 'goals' I've stopped celebrating and jumping around the living room like an
>> idiot because it's just nto worth it. I can't imagine what that might do to
>> the atmosphere in the ground. Football is being slowly strangled by VAR.
>> One up and continuing to look dangerous it suddenly went all wrong and
>> not for the first time this season. A set piece as usual, Ayling loses his
>> man and it's 1-1. The game is then turned on its head and where struggling
>> to hold on to half-time and have our amazing young keeper to thank whose
>> saves just get better every game. He's turning into a top keeper. There
>> doesn't appear to be any improvement in the set piece defensive
>> organisation. It's worrying.
>> 2nd half to our credit we began to take control again and looked
>> dangerous on the counter attack. With improved last balls and finishing we
>> could have buried them but we didn't and as usual we continued to look very
>> shaky from set pieces. Rapha's goal sealed the win and overall I think we
>> deserved it but we've got a massive job to do on set pieces and it needs to
>> be addressed this season. We are back to the pre Garry Monk days when we
>> looked like and frequently did concede from every corner.
>> Scores:
>> Miesler - 9. MOTM. Kept us in it at 1-1
>> Ayling - 6. Looked like he was struggling but battled on. Shame his
>> header was chalked off.
>> Allioski - 5. I though first half he was terrible. He played a couple of
>> ridiculous balls backwards and across his own box which put us in trouble.
>> 2nd half he was better and he did make some good tackles but he's always
>> going to be lacking as a left back.
>> Llorente - 7. Generally 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Robert Heath]

I met Lorimer a few times.sat with him through a match at Palace one
year. Very nice man.

I am STILL furious about his stolen goal in Paris. Apart from winning us
the match (which I have no doubt it would have BC their 2 late goals would
never have happened) he would have set a record as the only player to have
scored in every round of the European Cup.

I think my favourite Lorimer goal was v Man City when he tried to lift the
ball over a defender 25 yds from goal.. the ball clipped the lads
shoulder and looped up in the air so he thought bugger it and just lashed
an incredible dipping volley past Corrigan into the top corner.

I also loved his unique penalties...he would just blast it basically at
the keeper but wd slice across it slightly to send it into the top corner.

Re Fulham I thought the 2nd goal was superb..some lovely touches from
Bamford and Raphinha.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, 11:12 nattan--- via Leedslist, 
wrote:

>  Not much to disagree with there- we were well on top till our Achilles
> heel cost us a goal, we need to sort this out, a straight forward corner
> into the box and they score. After that we were really at sea and I was
> pleased to hear the half time whistle.  Second half we were mainly in
> control and were the likely winners.So a win in London,  Bamford sticking
> it to southgate and Meslier showing again what a tremendous prospect he
> is,  he could really become top top quality ( mind I thought that about
> Robinson at the same age,  though Meslier does seem more composed and
> resilient
> Once again the game was marred by VAR , I was ecstatic when Ayling scored
> then after a long long wait , various lines were drawn and it was chalked
> off, Robert's nipple, like Costas knee and Bamfords finger before being
> enough to cancel a goal . " clear and obvious " you have to be f-ing
> joking. The 'goal' by Raph if it had been given is tailor made for VAR ,
> one look and offside given, job done. If you have to draw lines ( which are
> not even accurate) and resort to slo mo, it is not by definition clear and
> obvious.  It needs sorting , it really is spoiling the match experience.
> If a VAR decision is the talking point then something is wrong , it is
> supposed to eliminate controversy not start it . I am still fuming ,
> DavePS RIP hotshot/ lash Peter Lorimer,  his 2 records will not be beaten
> in my lifetime,  youngest ever and most goals.  I met him briefly in
> Prague,  for slavia Prague game, and he was a real gent ( yes things went
> bad for him under Bates etc) another real legend that deserves a stand.
> When we go back there are so many to mourn / celebrate,him, Jack, Norman
> and Trevor.
>
> On Saturday, 20 March 2021, 10:49:26 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist
>  wrote:
>
>  We came out of the blocks at 100 mph which we tend to do and Fulham like
> a number of clubs just couldn't live with us. We had our usual goals
> chalked off by VAR before Bamford scored what I'd consider to be a typical
> Bamford goal and one that he's beginning to make look easy. As for the VAR
> 'goals' I've stopped celebrating and jumping around the living room like an
> idiot because it's just nto worth it. I can't imagine what that might do to
> the atmosphere in the ground. Football is being slowly strangled by VAR.
> One up and continuing to look dangerous it suddenly went all wrong and not
> for the first time this season. A set piece as usual, Ayling loses his man
> and it's 1-1. The game is then turned on its head and where struggling to
> hold on to half-time and have our amazing young keeper to thank whose saves
> just get better every game. He's turning into a top keeper. There doesn't
> appear to be any improvement in the set piece defensive organisation. It's
> worrying.
> 2nd half to our credit we began to take control again and looked dangerous
> on the counter attack. With improved last balls and finishing we could have
> buried them but we didn't and as usual we continued to look very shaky from
> set pieces. Rapha's goal sealed the win and overall I think we deserved it
> but we've got a massive job to do on set pieces and it needs to be
> addressed this season. We are back to the pre Garry Monk days when we
> looked like and frequently did concede from every corner.
> Scores:
> Miesler - 9. MOTM. Kept us in it at 1-1
> Ayling - 6. Looked like he was struggling but battled on. Shame his header
> was chalked off.
> Allioski - 5. I though first half he was terrible. He played a couple of
> ridiculous balls backwards and across his own box which put us in trouble.
> 2nd half he was better and he did make some good tackles but he's always
> going to be lacking as a left back.
> Llorente - 7. Generally defended well and brought the ball forward and
> played some good passes. Much improved.
> The Ripper - 6. Struggled towards the end of the 1st half but generally
> defended ok.
> Dallas - 7. Lively midfield performance. I'm still not sure about him in
> 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

 Not much to disagree with there- we were well on top till our Achilles heel 
cost us a goal, we need to sort this out, a straight forward corner into the 
box and they score. After that we were really at sea and I was pleased to hear 
the half time whistle.  Second half we were mainly in control and were the 
likely winners.So a win in London,  Bamford sticking it to southgate and 
Meslier showing again what a tremendous prospect he is,  he could really become 
top top quality ( mind I thought that about Robinson at the same age,  though 
Meslier does seem more composed and resilient 
Once again the game was marred by VAR , I was ecstatic when Ayling scored then 
after a long long wait , various lines were drawn and it was chalked off, 
Robert's nipple, like Costas knee and Bamfords finger before being enough to 
cancel a goal . " clear and obvious " you have to be f-ing joking. The 'goal' 
by Raph if it had been given is tailor made for VAR , one look and offside 
given, job done. If you have to draw lines ( which are not even accurate) and 
resort to slo mo, it is not by definition clear and obvious.  It needs sorting 
, it really is spoiling the match experience.  If a VAR decision is the talking 
point then something is wrong , it is supposed to eliminate controversy not 
start it . I am still fuming , 
DavePS RIP hotshot/ lash Peter Lorimer,  his 2 records will not be beaten in my 
lifetime,  youngest ever and most goals.  I met him briefly in Prague,  for 
slavia Prague game, and he was a real gent ( yes things went bad for him under 
Bates etc) another real legend that deserves a stand. When we go back there are 
so many to mourn / celebrate,him, Jack, Norman and Trevor.

On Saturday, 20 March 2021, 10:49:26 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 We came out of the blocks at 100 mph which we tend to do and Fulham like a 
number of clubs just couldn't live with us. We had our usual goals chalked off 
by VAR before Bamford scored what I'd consider to be a typical Bamford goal and 
one that he's beginning to make look easy. As for the VAR 'goals' I've stopped 
celebrating and jumping around the living room like an idiot because it's just 
nto worth it. I can't imagine what that might do to the atmosphere in the 
ground. Football is being slowly strangled by VAR. 
One up and continuing to look dangerous it suddenly went all wrong and not for 
the first time this season. A set piece as usual, Ayling loses his man and it's 
1-1. The game is then turned on its head and where struggling to hold on to 
half-time and have our amazing young keeper to thank whose saves just get 
better every game. He's turning into a top keeper. There doesn't appear to be 
any improvement in the set piece defensive organisation. It's worrying. 
2nd half to our credit we began to take control again and looked dangerous on 
the counter attack. With improved last balls and finishing we could have buried 
them but we didn't and as usual we continued to look very shaky from set 
pieces. Rapha's goal sealed the win and overall I think we deserved it but 
we've got a massive job to do on set pieces and it needs to be addressed this 
season. We are back to the pre Garry Monk days when we looked like and 
frequently did concede from every corner. 
Scores: 
Miesler - 9. MOTM. Kept us in it at 1-1 
Ayling - 6. Looked like he was struggling but battled on. Shame his header was 
chalked off. 
Allioski - 5. I though first half he was terrible. He played a couple of 
ridiculous balls backwards and across his own box which put us in trouble. 2nd 
half he was better and he did make some good tackles but he's always going to 
be lacking as a left back. 
Llorente - 7. Generally defended well and brought the ball forward and played 
some good passes. Much improved. 
The Ripper - 6. Struggled towards the end of the 1st half but generally 
defended ok. 
Dallas - 7. Lively midfield performance. I'm still not sure about him in 
central midfield but with Klich out of form he's doing a great job at stepping 
in. 
Phillips - 7. Lost possession a couple of times in the first half but grew into 
the game and I thought he did really well to break up attacks and get ours 
going. His best performance for a while. 
Harrison - 7. Much better from Jack. Did well for the goal and had another 
couple of good moments in the 2nd half. His work rate off the ball was 
excellent. Hopefully he's going to finish the season strongly. 
Raphinha - 7. Took the goal well and looked like our most dangerous player 
throughout. Maybe should have scored another. 
Bamford - 8. Obviously wasn't 100% fit but scored his goal and made the other 
and you can't grumble at that. 
Roberts - 7. Alan Smith picked him out as having a great game however I don't 
think he was as effective as the Chelsea game. He wasn't invovled that much in 
the 1st half apart from one great cross for the disallowed Ayling goal. Having 
said that he did have some great moments and overall I 

[LU] Fulham

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

We came out of the blocks at 100 mph which we tend to do and Fulham like a 
number of clubs just couldn't live with us. We had our usual goals chalked off 
by VAR before Bamford scored what I'd consider to be a typical Bamford goal and 
one that he's beginning to make look easy. As for the VAR 'goals' I've stopped 
celebrating and jumping around the living room like an idiot because it's just 
nto worth it. I can't imagine what that might do to the atmosphere in the 
ground. Football is being slowly strangled by VAR. 
One up and continuing to look dangerous it suddenly went all wrong and not for 
the first time this season. A set piece as usual, Ayling loses his man and it's 
1-1. The game is then turned on its head and where struggling to hold on to 
half-time and have our amazing young keeper to thank whose saves just get 
better every game. He's turning into a top keeper. There doesn't appear to be 
any improvement in the set piece defensive organisation. It's worrying. 
2nd half to our credit we began to take control again and looked dangerous on 
the counter attack. With improved last balls and finishing we could have buried 
them but we didn't and as usual we continued to look very shaky from set 
pieces. Rapha's goal sealed the win and overall I think we deserved it but 
we've got a massive job to do on set pieces and it needs to be addressed this 
season. We are back to the pre Garry Monk days when we looked like and 
frequently did concede from every corner. 
Scores: 
Miesler - 9. MOTM. Kept us in it at 1-1 
Ayling - 6. Looked like he was struggling but battled on. Shame his header was 
chalked off. 
Allioski - 5. I though first half he was terrible. He played a couple of 
ridiculous balls backwards and across his own box which put us in trouble. 2nd 
half he was better and he did make some good tackles but he's always going to 
be lacking as a left back. 
Llorente - 7. Generally defended well and brought the ball forward and played 
some good passes. Much improved. 
The Ripper - 6. Struggled towards the end of the 1st half but generally 
defended ok. 
Dallas - 7. Lively midfield performance. I'm still not sure about him in 
central midfield but with Klich out of form he's doing a great job at stepping 
in. 
Phillips - 7. Lost possession a couple of times in the first half but grew into 
the game and I thought he did really well to break up attacks and get ours 
going. His best performance for a while. 
Harrison - 7. Much better from Jack. Did well for the goal and had another 
couple of good moments in the 2nd half. His work rate off the ball was 
excellent. Hopefully he's going to finish the season strongly. 
Raphinha - 7. Took the goal well and looked like our most dangerous player 
throughout. Maybe should have scored another. 
Bamford - 8. Obviously wasn't 100% fit but scored his goal and made the other 
and you can't grumble at that. 
Roberts - 7. Alan Smith picked him out as having a great game however I don't 
think he was as effective as the Chelsea game. He wasn't invovled that much in 
the 1st half apart from one great cross for the disallowed Ayling goal. Having 
said that he did have some great moments and overall I think he's showing his 
abilities and why Bielsa is picking him. Love him to get a goal soon. 
Subs: 
Klich - Ran around a bit. 
RIP Peter Lorimer 
 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Naef]

Provided the players reaction is one of anger at their last 30mins rather than 
self pity, we'll be fine. Frankly according to lillywhite fans they've been 
pretty abysmal.  But we all know every team raises their game against us.

Sent from my Mobile.


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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 4:16:58 PM
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Subject: [LU] Fulham

Have lost their last three games. Nothing to worry about. I would suggest if we 
play like we did the first hour yesterday we have nothing to worry about from 
anyone in the league (cue comments about last half hour).
Nick
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[LU] Fulham

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Have lost their last three games. Nothing to worry about. I would suggest if we 
play like we did the first hour yesterday we have nothing to worry about from 
anyone in the league (cue comments about last half hour).
Nick
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Re: [LU] Fulham up.

[Matt Anderson]

I think grelish is a horrible little so and so and seeing him and mentor john 
terry sad at the end was good 

Fulham deserved it just and overall deserved to go up 

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> On 26 May 2018, at 20:00, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Probably deserve it, but bad news as it's one less London game for us soft 
> southern gits to get to.
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
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[Richard Naef]

Probably deserve it, but bad news as it's one less London game for us soft 
southern gits to get to.

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 yes I think TC should have been sacked but Hecky 
Ive changed my mind about this game now
Fulham 1 Leeds 3 


On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:35:13 BST, Matt Anderson 
 wrote:  
 
 I can think of a few recently boro wolves etc... with the same gulf in class. 

Only saving grace is that we aren’t 2-0 down like in a few other games ... yet 

Was there any point sacking Christiansen? 

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> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:24, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> there you go ... 
> don't think I've seen a bigger gulf in class in this league ever. 
> We are incapable. Vierra, Dallas, Hernandez givin the ball away when under no 
> pressure and they just stroke it around effortlessly.
> I'm finding it painful to watch and I love watching Leeds but this is 
> garbage. 
> why is Dallas playing right back ? 
> and corner after corner we make the same defensive mistakes. 
> pain 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:17:29 BST, David Smail 
> wrote:  
> 
> Wish Fulham would hurry up and score the inevitable goal - then I can watch
> something else. It's men and boys, sadly.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Matt Anderson]

I can think of a few recently boro wolves etc... with the same gulf in class. 

Only saving grace is that we aren’t 2-0 down like in a few other games ... yet 

Was there any point sacking Christiansen? 

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> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:24, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> there you go ... 
> don't think I've seen a bigger gulf in class in this league ever. 
> We are incapable. Vierra, Dallas, Hernandez givin the ball away when under no 
> pressure and they just stroke it around effortlessly.
> I'm finding it painful to watch and I love watching Leeds but this is 
> garbage. 
> why is Dallas playing right back ? 
> and corner after corner we make the same defensive mistakes. 
> pain 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:17:29 BST, David Smail 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Wish Fulham would hurry up and score the inevitable goal - then I can watch
> something else. It's men and boys, sadly.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 since I wrote this , we've been the better team but I think Im clutching at 
straws.
On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:28:26 BST, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:  
 
  there you go ... 
don't think I've seen a bigger gulf in class in this league ever. 
We are incapable. Vierra, Dallas, Hernandez givin the ball away when under no 
pressure and they just stroke it around effortlessly.
I'm finding it painful to watch and I love watching Leeds but this is garbage. 
why is Dallas playing right back ? 
and corner after corner we make the same defensive mistakes. 
pain 





    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:17:29 BST, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 Wish Fulham would hurry up and score the inevitable goal - then I can watch
something else. It's men and boys, sadly.

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 there you go ... 
don't think I've seen a bigger gulf in class in this league ever. 
We are incapable. Vierra, Dallas, Hernandez givin the ball away when under no 
pressure and they just stroke it around effortlessly.
I'm finding it painful to watch and I love watching Leeds but this is garbage. 
why is Dallas playing right back ? 
and corner after corner we make the same defensive mistakes. 
pain 





On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:17:29 BST, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 Wish Fulham would hurry up and score the inevitable goal - then I can watch
something else. It's men and boys, sadly.

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Matt Anderson]

Have to say I felt the same. Actually passed up opportunity to go and waste £40 
plus beer and curry to sit with fulham fan friend. 

I just want this season to end. I’m only watching this out of some sort of 
perverse duty 

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> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:17, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> Wish Fulham would hurry up and score the inevitable goal - then I can watch
> something else. It's men and boys, sadly.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[David Smail]

Wish Fulham would hurry up and score the inevitable goal - then I can watch
something else. It's men and boys, sadly.

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

well if we sold Wood for £20 million - we could have Snodgrass  , Bartley and a 
new 15 million pound striker 

  From: David W <davidwool...@gmail.com>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017, 12:47
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Agree we would ideally like us to hold on to him, but 5 into 2 spots doesn't 
go, and Bridcutt is probably the best paid of them with 12 months left on his 
contract. So can see why we'd do it.
O'Kane seems to be the new main man in there and just got a new contract, 
Phillips clearly well regarded (despite much-discussed shortcomings), Vieira is 
the future and Klich only just joined.
I like to delude myself that we could sell him and use the freed use wages / 
transfer fee to help get Snoddy back in on loan...

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:58 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

Apparently Bridcutt having medical at Forest today according to some reports. 
I thought he was average last season after a great loan spell but I'd still 
keep him - much better player than Philips. 

      From: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

There are various Facebook live streams that broadcast the match.

Some guy called Adam broadcasts while he drinks and commentates.

Means anyone with Facebook can watch anywhere

I watched while walking dogs yesterday

Look up leeds united groups and join the one that has about 53000 members. He 
posts it there

Other than that get a vpn and use Paypal and you are away at home.



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> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is- broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (https://www.leedsunited.com/ 
> lutv).  You have to register and then when you go back to the site and login, 
> you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then "International Match Centre" 
> on the middle-right of the screen that appears (nobody says they made it 
> easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a game to watch, 
> naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all it does it 
> being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you persevere, 
> it finally plays.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:richard@triumph- computers.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-bounces@gn. apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel 
> Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>
>
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t

Re: [LU] Fulham

[David W]

Agree we would ideally like us to hold on to him, but 5 into 2 spots
doesn't go, and Bridcutt is probably the best paid of them with 12 months
left on his contract. So can see why we'd do it.

O'Kane seems to be the new main man in there and just got a new contract,
Phillips clearly well regarded (despite much-discussed shortcomings),
Vieira is the future and Klich only just joined.

I like to delude myself that we could sell him and use the freed use wages
/ transfer fee to help get Snoddy back in on loan...


On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:58 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Apparently Bridcutt having medical at Forest today according to some
> reports.
> I thought he was average last season after a great loan spell but I'd
> still keep him - much better player than Philips.
>
>   From: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>  To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Cc: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:35
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> There are various Facebook live streams that broadcast the match.
>
> Some guy called Adam broadcasts while he drinks and commentates.
>
> Means anyone with Facebook can watch anywhere
>
> I watched while walking dogs yesterday
>
> Look up leeds united groups and join the one that has about 53000 members.
> He posts it there
>
> Other than that get a vpn and use Paypal and you are away at home.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> > I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening
> on Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> > Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all
> games.
> > So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy
> that match ?
> > Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> > Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
> >
> >
> > From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> > To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> >
> > It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (
> https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when
> you go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very
> top, then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen
> that appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears
> (when there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click
> the play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
> >
> > Nigel
> > (the Dublin one)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
> > Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> > To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> > Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
> >
> > Hi Nigel,
> >
> > Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
> >
> > ttfn
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> Nigel Sykes
> > Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> > To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> >
> > The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and
> away, for 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
> >
> >
> > I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I
> heard of someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing
> that they will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you
> would probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear,
> IPVanish etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK
> or Ireland.
> >
> > The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an
> address (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway,
> but that probably isn’t significant).  I paid thr

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Apparently Bridcutt having medical at Forest today according to some reports. 
I thought he was average last season after a great loan spell but I'd still 
keep him - much better player than Philips. 

  From: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
There are various Facebook live streams that broadcast the match. 

Some guy called Adam broadcasts while he drinks and commentates. 

Means anyone with Facebook can watch anywhere

I watched while walking dogs yesterday 

Look up leeds united groups and join the one that has about 53000 members. He 
posts it there 

Other than that get a vpn and use Paypal and you are away at home. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ? 
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ? 
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
> 
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
> 
> Hi Nigel,
> 
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
> 
> 
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
> 
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ? 
> 
> 
> 
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
> 
> 
> 
>  _  
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them 
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
> defensively, but I a

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

not particularly - they were happy to see us try and play it out which we 
failed miserably to do in the first half. 
I too don't like having a keeper who can't kick or has been instructed that he 
should always look for the short ball. Our defenders are not good enough on the 
ball or good enough passers to play that sort of style and I'm sure team will 
get wise to it (like Preston did). 

  From: Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk>
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017, 12:29
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Did Fulham try to close down all the short-range options on goal-kicks and  
when the keeper had the ball?  If so, how did he and the team cope?  Preston 
worked out how to  do that after the first 20 mins on Saturday, and it 
disrupted Leeds completely, until their sending off made a pressing-game too 
risky.

I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet about having a keeper that can't kick.

KOT.


Kevin Lewis
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UK SBS

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)]

Did Fulham try to close down all the short-range options on goal-kicks and  
when the keeper had the ball?  If so, how did he and the team cope?  Preston 
worked out how to  do that after the first 20 mins on Saturday, and it 
disrupted Leeds completely, until their sending off made a pressing-game too 
risky.

I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet about having a keeper that can't kick.

KOT.


Kevin Lewis
Oracle System Administrator
UK SBS

Tel: 01793 867086
Email: kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk
UK SBS, Polaris House, North Star Avenue, Swindon, SN2 1FF (Polaris House, 
Ground Floor - West, Swindon)



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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I did not know that - explains ridiculous KO times although I've grown to like 
the Saturday 5:30 away games - a few pints in the pub , then go back home for 
to sup a bottle of fine wine then beat the missus. 

  From: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
 To: Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> 
Cc: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:34
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
You can't broadcast live football in the UK between 2.45 and 5.15 to protect 
attendances at lower league games in particular and there is no prospect of 
this being dropped yet 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:13, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Media rights for the live matches, highlights etc. secured per territory.
> They could do it in the UK if Sky let them, but then people would scrap
> their Sky subscriptions and only watch non-televised games. Sky would then
> end up televising even more Leeds games, as we attract the most viewers and
> subscriptions in the league.
> 
> Money talks.
> 
> On 16 August 2017 at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
>> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home
>> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I
>> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost
>> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening
>> on Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
>> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all
>> games.
>> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy
>> that match ?
>> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they
>> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
>> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>> 
>> 
>> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
>> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (
>> https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when
>> you go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very
>> top, then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen
>> that appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears
>> (when there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click
>> the play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different
>> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>> 
>> Nigel
>> (the Dublin one)
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
>> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
>> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> Hi Nigel,
>> 
>> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>> 
>> ttfn
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel
>> Sykes
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
>> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away,
>> for 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>> 
>> 
>> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard
>> of someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that
>> they will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would
>> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish
>> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>> 
>> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an
>> address (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway,
>> but that probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account
>> registered to an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>> 
>> Nigel
>> (the Dublin one)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
>> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky
>> 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Matt Anderson]

It's the FA. Sky would broadcast every game in a heartbeat.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:17, Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com> wrote:
> 
> Don’t be fooled that it’s about granting anyone any privileges!  They’d allow 
> UK & Ireland folks to watch for a fiver a time too if they could, but the 
> licensing agreements with Sky etc. preclude them from being able to do it.  
> They’re just chasing new revenue streams, that’s all.  Not just for the games 
> themselves, but by keeping ‘foreign’ customers interested, they’ll sell more 
> merchandise to them too etc.
> 
> I’ve always thought that the US (& Italian?) idea of blacking out reception 
> within a certain distance of the ground is the best idea – so people who live 
> a long way away can watch, including away games.  Though that would be more 
> difficult to implement in the UK, with so many clubs being so close to each 
> other.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk] 
> Sent: 16 August 2017 14:05
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
> 
> 
> 
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
> 
> 
> 
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
> 
> 
> 
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ? 
> 
> 
> 
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ? 
> 
> 
> 
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
> 
> Hi Nigel,
> 
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
> 
> 
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
> 
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ? 
> 
> 
> 
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
> 
> 
> 
>  _  
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Le

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Matt Anderson]

There are various Facebook live streams that broadcast the match. 

Some guy called Adam broadcasts while he drinks and commentates. 

Means anyone with Facebook can watch anywhere

I watched while walking dogs yesterday 

Look up leeds united groups and join the one that has about 53000 members. He 
posts it there 

Other than that get a vpn and use Paypal and you are away at home. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ? 
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ? 
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
> 
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
> 
> Hi Nigel,
> 
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
> 
> 
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
> 
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ? 
> 
> 
> 
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
> 
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them 
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
> defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
> department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
> number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
> distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if 
> we haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
> fashion, then we still need these guys.
> 
> My biggest rant has consistently b

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Matt Anderson]

You can't broadcast live football in the UK between 2.45 and 5.15 to protect 
attendances at lower league games in particular and there is no prospect of 
this being dropped yet 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:13, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Media rights for the live matches, highlights etc. secured per territory.
> They could do it in the UK if Sky let them, but then people would scrap
> their Sky subscriptions and only watch non-televised games. Sky would then
> end up televising even more Leeds games, as we attract the most viewers and
> subscriptions in the league.
> 
> Money talks.
> 
> On 16 August 2017 at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
>> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home
>> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I
>> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost
>> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening
>> on Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
>> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all
>> games.
>> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy
>> that match ?
>> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they
>> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
>> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>> 
>> 
>> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
>> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (
>> https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when
>> you go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very
>> top, then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen
>> that appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears
>> (when there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click
>> the play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different
>> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>> 
>> Nigel
>> (the Dublin one)
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
>> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
>> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> Hi Nigel,
>> 
>> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>> 
>> ttfn
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel
>> Sykes
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
>> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away,
>> for 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>> 
>> 
>> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard
>> of someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that
>> they will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would
>> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish
>> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>> 
>> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an
>> address (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway,
>> but that probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account
>> registered to an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>> 
>> Nigel
>> (the Dublin one)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
>> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky
>> away games ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not
>> outside the UK to be able to access ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  _
>> 
>> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
>> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Have watched every game 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Torrey Gilday]

If I had a million pounds lying around, I'd send it to Leeds and tell them to 
put it towards another CB! ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Richard Naef  
wrote:

>> Finally, I would move to England in a heartbeat, but unfortunately the UK 
>> government does >not accept "be closer to Leeds United" as a valid reason to 
>> let me live there.
> 
> Have you tried saying you are the Bastard Love child of Boris Johnson and 
> Theresa May?  If not a million pound donation to the Tory party should do the 
> trick.
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Naef]

>Finally, I would move to England in a heartbeat, but unfortunately the UK 
>government does >not accept "be closer to Leeds United" as a valid reason to 
>let me live there.

Have you tried saying you are the Bastard Love child of Boris Johnson and 
Theresa May?  If not a million pound donation to the Tory party should do the 
trick.
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Oh yeah I forgot about that challenge! LOL
Obviously not as much of a genius as I thought.
Nick

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 10:23:20 AM EDT, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

"Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius."
Undoubtedly you are a genius although I will also point out that when he came 
on against Bolton everyone was slating him for that poor piece of defending 
that gave them the corner I commented to my Dad who was watching the game with 
me that I liked the look of him and that he looked like a player who has got an 
air of quality about him. 
Now my Dad is not on the list but I  can put anyone who doesn't believe me in 
touch with him to confirm. 
I am also a genius.

      From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 14:59
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
My thoughts:
 - So Alioski seems to be getting some stick. I don't really understand. he has 
just started playing in this division, already works his bollocks off (three 
great challenges after running 30/40 yards), made the pass that set Wood up. 
Last week he was a hero now drop him. He needs more game time to learn not 
dropping. 
- Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius.
- Anita: Tidy player but looked stretched by the end of the game last night. He 
also looks a bit slow.
- O'Kane: Well I have been singing this guy's praises and again last night I 
thought he was one of our best. Always available for a pass. He did though give 
the ball away three times in dangerous areas which was concerning but he did 
not hide after having done so. I think a much more positive option than 
Bridcutt. 
Viera/Phillips - Viera has to play ahead of Phillips. 
Saiz - really good and I liked him and Hernandez together. Most championship 
defenders won't know what to do with their interplay. Yes he whines a bit but 
that's ok he is our whiner.
Fulham - Thought they were very good and that a point from them was a decent 
result especially after the first 20-25 minutes which were a bit ominous. To 
come through that and dominate large patches of play was a testament to us I 
thought.
Us - So far I am not disappointed with the points haul. We have played very 
different teams (very physical and very technical) and have adapted and got 
points from every game. And we are a new team in essence still learning how to 
play together with players still learning this league. I am optimistic and 
think we have a team that could do well this year.
Nick

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 2:01:06 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com <nat...@sky.com> 
wrote:

Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Good man ! 
and I am surprised that they won't let you on based on that justification. 
Makes sense to me. 

  From: Torrey Gilday <gil...@ualberta.ca>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 15:19
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
My understanding is that the licensing arrangements (or lack thereof)
allow them to offer this to overseas fans.

As for being an overseas fan, simple fact is that my local team did
not exist when I first discovered Leeds. So yeah, I should support
that club more, but Leeds is still #1 to me.

Finally, I would move to England in a heartbeat, but unfortunately the
UK government does not accept "be closer to Leeds United" as a valid
reason to let me live there.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 7:09 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>
>
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
>
>
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ?
>
>
>
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
>
>
>
>  _
>
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them 
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
> defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the p

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

"Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius."
Undoubtedly you are a genius although I will also point out that when he came 
on against Bolton everyone was slating him for that poor piece of defending 
that gave them the corner I commented to my Dad who was watching the game with 
me that I liked the look of him and that he looked like a player who has got an 
air of quality about him. 
Now my Dad is not on the list but I  can put anyone who doesn't believe me in 
touch with him to confirm. 
I am also a genius.

  From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 14:59
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
My thoughts:
 - So Alioski seems to be getting some stick. I don't really understand. he has 
just started playing in this division, already works his bollocks off (three 
great challenges after running 30/40 yards), made the pass that set Wood up. 
Last week he was a hero now drop him. He needs more game time to learn not 
dropping. 
- Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius.
- Anita: Tidy player but looked stretched by the end of the game last night. He 
also looks a bit slow.
- O'Kane: Well I have been singing this guy's praises and again last night I 
thought he was one of our best. Always available for a pass. He did though give 
the ball away three times in dangerous areas which was concerning but he did 
not hide after having done so. I think a much more positive option than 
Bridcutt. 
Viera/Phillips - Viera has to play ahead of Phillips. 
Saiz - really good and I liked him and Hernandez together. Most championship 
defenders won't know what to do with their interplay. Yes he whines a bit but 
that's ok he is our whiner.
Fulham - Thought they were very good and that a point from them was a decent 
result especially after the first 20-25 minutes which were a bit ominous. To 
come through that and dominate large patches of play was a testament to us I 
thought.
Us - So far I am not disappointed with the points haul. We have played very 
different teams (very physical and very technical) and have adapted and got 
points from every game. And we are a new team in essence still learning how to 
play together with players still learning this league. I am optimistic and 
think we have a team that could do well this year.
Nick

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 2:01:06 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com <nat...@sky.com> 
wrote:

Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Torrey Gilday]

My understanding is that the licensing arrangements (or lack thereof)
allow them to offer this to overseas fans.

As for being an overseas fan, simple fact is that my local team did
not exist when I first discovered Leeds. So yeah, I should support
that club more, but Leeds is still #1 to me.

Finally, I would move to England in a heartbeat, but unfortunately the
UK government does not accept "be closer to Leeds United" as a valid
reason to let me live there.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 7:09 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>
>
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
>
>
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ?
>
>
>
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them 
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
> defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
> department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
> number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
> distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if 
> we haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
> fashion, then we still need these guys.

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Naef]

100% agree, we are in a better position than last year and I think TC will take 
a little longer to decide on his best team and get the Johnny foreigners up to 
match fitness.  

We haven't had a full strength squad for him to pick from yet.

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 16 August 2017 14:55
To: nat...@sky.com; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

My thoughts:
 - So Alioski seems to be getting some stick. I don't really understand. he has 
just started playing in this division, already works his bollocks off (three 
great challenges after running 30/40 yards), made the pass that set Wood up. 
Last week he was a hero now drop him. He needs more game time to learn not 
dropping.
- Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius.
- Anita: Tidy player but looked stretched by the end of the game last night. He 
also looks a bit slow.
- O'Kane: Well I have been singing this guy's praises and again last night I 
thought he was one of our best. Always available for a pass. He did though give 
the ball away three times in dangerous areas which was concerning but he did 
not hide after having done so. I think a much more positive option than 
Bridcutt. Viera/Phillips - Viera has to play ahead of Phillips. Saiz - really 
good and I liked him and Hernandez together. Most championship defenders won't 
know what to do with their interplay. Yes he whines a bit but that's ok he is 
our whiner.
Fulham - Thought they were very good and that a point from them was a decent 
result especially after the first 20-25 minutes which were a bit ominous. To 
come through that and dominate large patches of play was a testament to us I 
thought.
Us - So far I am not disappointed with the points haul. We have played very 
different teams (very physical and very technical) and have adapted and got 
points from every game. And we are a new team in essence still learning how to 
play together with players still learning this league. I am optimistic and 
think we have a team that could do well this year.
Nick

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 2:01:06 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com <nat...@sky.com> 
wrote:

Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very 
different as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing 
, and indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they 
pinged it about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a 
torrid time of it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and 
he looked a different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The 
team as a whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save Second half Phillips had 
a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a awful freekick from a 
brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. Fulham were as blunt as 
us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when he came rushing out at 
the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham aslo hit the post. 
Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas that just missed the 
outstretched foot of Wood So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an 
ordinary midweek league game for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but 
have no shots or chances worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. 
Fulham will be up there at the end of the season, so a draw could be a 
creditable result, having said that 2 pts from 2 home games is not good enough 
and puts us under pressure to get all 3 pts at Sunderland Some general 
observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is growing in 
confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. Anita is a tidy 
player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is looking like the 
real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing imaginary cards and 
needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. Alioski is the opposite 
so far he shows the odd flash of brilliance and does have a good work ethic but 
I think he is finding it faster and more committed than he expected - maybe 
leave him on the bench for a while ?
THe keeper still does not fill me with confidence but it i

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Naef]

Thanks, I'll give it a go!

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:55
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

My thoughts:
 - So Alioski seems to be getting some stick. I don't really understand. he has 
just started playing in this division, already works his bollocks off (three 
great challenges after running 30/40 yards), made the pass that set Wood up. 
Last week he was a hero now drop him. He needs more game time to learn not 
dropping. 
- Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius.
- Anita: Tidy player but looked stretched by the end of the game last night. He 
also looks a bit slow.
- O'Kane: Well I have been singing this guy's praises and again last night I 
thought he was one of our best. Always available for a pass. He did though give 
the ball away three times in dangerous areas which was concerning but he did 
not hide after having done so. I think a much more positive option than 
Bridcutt. 
Viera/Phillips - Viera has to play ahead of Phillips. 
Saiz - really good and I liked him and Hernandez together. Most championship 
defenders won't know what to do with their interplay. Yes he whines a bit but 
that's ok he is our whiner.
Fulham - Thought they were very good and that a point from them was a decent 
result especially after the first 20-25 minutes which were a bit ominous. To 
come through that and dominate large patches of play was a testament to us I 
thought.
Us - So far I am not disappointed with the points haul. We have played very 
different teams (very physical and very technical) and have adapted and got 
points from every game. And we are a new team in essence still learning how to 
play together with players still learning this league. I am optimistic and 
think we have a team that could do well this year.
Nick

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 2:01:06 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com  
wrote:

Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. 
Alioski is the opposite so far he shows the odd flash of brilliance and does 
have a good work ethic but I think he is finding it faster and more committed 
than he expected - maybe leave him on the bench for a while ?
THe keeper still does not fill me with confidence but it is clear what the plan 
is with him throwing it out, almost all the time, and generally very quickly - 
the defenders (and this is the 4th different back four in his 4 games) need to 
get in tune with him and him them.
Pontus - did not notice him at all - not sure if this is good or bad. There was 
one great Pontus-style last minute tackle in the box last nigh, but that was by 
Shaughnessey !
We need to be patient - it is better than this time last season - and we need 
Wood to start scoring or Ekuban to get 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Damian Walsh]

God save us from wind-up merchants. You know that poor old Blighty is
desperate for the 1€87 or whatever it is that a fiver is worth now. Expect
the price to go down next year.

Indeed it's only remittances from hard-working ex-pats that's saving the
country from complete bankruptcy.

Damian :)

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:05 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening
> on Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all
> games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy
> that match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Jim Moran]

Media rights for the live matches, highlights etc. secured per territory.
They could do it in the UK if Sky let them, but then people would scrap
their Sky subscriptions and only watch non-televised games. Sky would then
end up televising even more Leeds games, as we attract the most viewers and
subscriptions in the league.

Money talks.

On 16 August 2017 at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening
> on Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all
> games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy
> that match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
>  From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
>  To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (
> https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when
> you go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very
> top, then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen
> that appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears
> (when there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click
> the play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel
> Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away,
> for 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>
>
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard
> of someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that
> they will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an
> address (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway,
> but that probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account
> registered to an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
>
>
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky
> away games ?
>
>
>
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not
> outside the UK to be able to access ?
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
> To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked
> okay defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the
> passing department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work
> rate and the number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course -
> but his distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball
> winners, and if we haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in
> Batty-esque fashion, then we still need these guys.
>
> My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand
> how he gets a game.
>
> But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

or is this just a loophole in the Uk licensing agreements that allows the club 
to offer this ?

  From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>; 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 14:05
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home games). 
Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I realised I 
didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost non-time) 
attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on Radio Leeds 
whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
match ? 
Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they support 
Leeds instead of their local team ? 
Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?


 From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
 To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white o

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home games). 
Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I realised I 
didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost non-time) 
attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on Radio Leeds 
whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
match ? 
Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they support 
Leeds instead of their local team ? 
Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?


 From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
 To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper)

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Nigel Sykes]

It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Naef]

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very 
different as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing 
, and indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they 
pinged it about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a 
torrid time of it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and 
he looked a different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The 
team as a whole got a 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Nigel Sykes]

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel 
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
fashion, then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot clos

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 
and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

  From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
 To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
fashion, then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


      From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

      From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sund

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Nigel Sykes]

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
fashion, then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Peter Castlehouse]

Does 92 points get us into playoffs?  Win 3pts, draw 1pt
On the season's average so far, and keeping up this form, we get 92 points
For feck's sake, it's too early to make judgements.   Get ten games under the 
belt then whinge and moan.
Favourite Curry houses anyone as a distraction?

OzPete

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[nat...@sky.com]

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, 
Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - Ayling Jansson 
Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey Anita
Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. 
Alioski is the opposite so far he shows the odd flash of brilliance and does 
have a good work ethic but I think he is finding it faster and more committed 
than he expected - maybe leave him on the bench for a while ?
THe keeper still does not fill me with confidence but it is clear what the plan 
is with him throwing it out, almost all the time, and generally very quickly - 
the defenders (and this is the 4th different back four in his 4 games) need to 
get in tune with him and him them.
Pontus - did not notice him at all - not sure if this is good or bad. There was 
one great Pontus-style last minute tackle in the box last nigh, but that was by 
Shaughnessey !
We need to be patient - it is better than this time last season - and we need 
Wood to start scoring or Ekuban to get a run late on to help him out
Dave

    
  
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[nat...@sky.com]

I suppose Ted I should have said "with not many shots..." I did mention the 
'goal' the one on one plus the shots from Saiz and Phillips and the cross from 
Dallas - but that is not much to show for 90minutes at home
I am still confident and thought it was a decent enough game - much better than 
Saturday- with both teams trying to play nice football.


  From: Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   


Dave wrote:

fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances worthy 
of the name. 

And the Doctor wrote:An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday


Sorry but I've got to disagree slightly Dave - I usually agree fully with your 
reports but what about Wood's one-on-one miss?  And his "goal" was apparently 
on-side. Plus Aylings shot that went just wide and Dallas' shot/pass that got 
deflected at the death, just to go agonisingly past the reach of Wood.For a 
nil-nil, I thought it was a pretty good game - both teams could have pinched it 
and after the first 20 minutes (where we didn't get a look in) we seemed to 
play okay - I thought we looked pretty dangerous on the attack.  Siaz was 
everywhere, Alionski gave them trouble and Shaunesseey looked pretty assured 
for a newbie - his latch ditch tackle at the end was a match winning tackle.If 
we play with that tempo against most teams in this division, we'll beat most.
As for the Doctor's comments, WTF?  Were you watching the same game as us?
Ted H




   
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Richard Naef]

For what it is worth Phil Hay reckoned had a good match given his inexperience.

ttfn

Richard

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Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very 
different as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing 
, and indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they 
pinged it about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a 
torrid time of it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and 
he looked a different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The 
team as a whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save Second half Phillips had 
a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a awful freekick from a 
brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. Fulham were as blunt as 
us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when he came rushing out at 
the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham aslo hit the post. 
Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas that just missed the 
outstretched foot of Wood So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an 
ordinary midweek league game for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but 
have no shots or chances worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. 
Fulham will be up there at the end of the season, so a draw could be a 
creditable result, having said that 2 pts from 2 home games is not good enough 
and puts us under pressure to get all 3 pts at Sunderland Some general 
observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is growing in 
confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. Anita is a tidy 
player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is looking like the 
real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing imaginary cards and 
needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. Alioski is the opposite 
so far he shows the odd flash of brilliance and does have a good work ethic but 
I think he is finding it faster and more committed than he expected - maybe 
leave him on the bench for a while ?
THe keeper still does not fill me with confidence but it is clear what the plan 
is with him throwing it out, almost all the time, and generally very quickly - 
the defenders (and this is the 4th different back four in his 4 games) need to 
get in tune with him and him them.
Pontus - did not notice him at all - not sure if this is good or bad. There was 
one great Pontus-style last minute tackle in the box last nigh, but that was by 
Shaughnessey !
We need to be patient - it is better than this time last season - and we need 
Wood to start scoring or Ekuban to get a run late on to help him out Dave

    
  
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[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

There's absolutely no way he was man of the match - I think the best compliment 
I could say about him was that he got involved second half. I was watching him 
first half and he was terrible - not staying with his man, behind play. He was 
completely bewildered by Fulham's quick play.
I find everything he does is low quality but in this league he can be an asset 
but not ahead of Vierra. 

  From: Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: - - <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>; "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds 
List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
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 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
It's a strange one regarding Philips - I agree Rich - no-one I've spoken to or 
listened to puts him in front of Bridcutt and Vierra.  Can't believe Vierra was 
dropped from the 18.  What does Christiansen see in him?  He's a squad player 
at best.
Mind you, on my way home in the car whats-her-name on Radio Leeds said she'd 
had a text/tweet saying Philips was man-of-the-match!  Even she was surprssed!

   
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Ted]

It's a strange one regarding Philips - I agree Rich - no-one I've spoken to
or listened to puts him in front of Bridcutt and Vierra.  Can't believe
Vierra was dropped from the 18.  What does Christiansen see in him?  He's a
squad player at best.

Mind you, on my way home in the car whats-her-name on Radio Leeds said
she'd had a text/tweet saying Philips was man-of-the-match!  Even she was
surprssed!
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[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

agree about Philips - first 30 mins he was like a little kid completely lost. 
I think he improved but everyone I know thinks that Vierra (and Bridcutt) are 
much better players and much better prospects. 
Vierra didn't even make the 18 last night which I think is criminal.

  From: - - <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
 To: Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com>; nat...@sky.com 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:15
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
  pretty much agree Ted - the disallowed goal aside - we're getting used
  to playing together and are unbeaten. They passed us off the park for
  30 minutes...but then we got the idea and Saiz, Hernandez and Alioski
  got much more involved...and they couldn't get the ball off us. Philips
  is still a concern for me - I'd rather see Vieira alongside either
  O'Kane or Bridcutt...really not sure about brining Roofe on...I'd have
  had Dallas on earlier and the other new striker who's name I've
  forgotten and can't be arsed looking up...also not sure why BJ didn't
  play, thought was decent in the last game...that said Anita was tidy
  enough.

  Shaunessey was good - that tackle was a diamond; we commented how nice
  it was not to notice Pontus...so at least he wasn't doing anything
  daft. I think the keeper's charge out and clearance might do him some
  good.

  We need a sharper edge up front...but otherwise none too bad so far.

  Nick

    On 16 August 2017 at 07:58 Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dave wrote:

    fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or
    chances
    worthy of the name.

    And the Doctor wrote:
    An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
    If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
    A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday

    Sorry but I've got to disagree slightly Dave - I usually agree fully
    with
    your reports but what about Wood's one-on-one miss? And his "goal"
    was
    apparently on-side. Plus Aylings shot that went just wide and
    Dallas'
    shot/pass that got deflected at the death, just to go agonisingly
    past the
    reach of Wood.
    For a nil-nil, I thought it was a pretty good game - both teams
    could have
    pinched it and after the first 20 minutes (where we didn't get a
    look in)
    we seemed to play okay - I thought we looked pretty dangerous on the
    attack. Siaz was everywhere, Alionski gave them trouble and
    Shaunesseey
    looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch tackle at the
    end was
    a match winning tackle.
    If we play with that tempo against most teams in this division,
    we'll beat
    most.

    As for the Doctor's comments, WTF? Were you watching the same game
    as us?

    Ted H

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[Errand Fivefold]

Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. 
Alioski is the opposite so far he shows the odd flash of brilliance and does 
have a good work ethic but I think he is finding it faster and more committed 
than he expected - maybe leave him on the bench for a while ?
THe keeper still does not fill me with confidence but it is clear what the plan 
is with him throwing it out, almost all the time, and generally very quickly - 
the defenders (and this is the 4th different back four in his 4 games) need to 
get in tune with him and him them.
Pontus - did not notice him at all - not sure if this is good or bad. There was 
one great Pontus-style last minute tackle in the box last nigh, but that was by 
Shaughnessey !
We need to be patient - it is better than this time last season - and we need 
Wood to start scoring or Ekuban to get a run late on to help him out
Dave

    
  
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[Ted]

On 16 August 2017 at 08:05, Richard Walker  wrote:

> I think we can forget about Wood's 'goal' Ted - the linesman had his flag
> up early and they completely stopped.
>
>
Okay - even I didn't get up out my seat cos I saw the flag go straight up -
but, he was put through onside so it was still a potential one on one and
chance!
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[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I think we can forget about Wood's 'goal' Ted - the linesman had his flag up 
early and they completely stopped. 

  From: Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:58I thin
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Dave wrote:

> fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances
> worthy of the name.


And the Doctor wrote:
An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday


Sorry but I've got to disagree slightly Dave - I usually agree fully with
your reports but what about Wood's one-on-one miss?  And his "goal" was
apparently on-side. Plus Aylings shot that went just wide and Dallas'
shot/pass that got deflected at the death, just to go agonisingly past the
reach of Wood.
For a nil-nil, I thought it was a pretty good game - both teams could have
pinched it and after the first 20 minutes (where we didn't get a look in)
we seemed to play okay - I thought we looked pretty dangerous on the
attack.  Siaz was everywhere, Alionski gave them trouble and Shaunesseey
looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch tackle at the end was
a match winning tackle.
If we play with that tempo against most teams in this division, we'll beat
most.

As for the Doctor's comments, WTF?  Were you watching the same game as us?

Ted H
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[Ted]

Dave wrote:

> fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances
> worthy of the name.


And the Doctor wrote:
An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday


Sorry but I've got to disagree slightly Dave - I usually agree fully with
your reports but what about Wood's one-on-one miss?  And his "goal" was
apparently on-side. Plus Aylings shot that went just wide and Dallas'
shot/pass that got deflected at the death, just to go agonisingly past the
reach of Wood.
For a nil-nil, I thought it was a pretty good game - both teams could have
pinched it and after the first 20 minutes (where we didn't get a look in)
we seemed to play okay - I thought we looked pretty dangerous on the
attack.  Siaz was everywhere, Alionski gave them trouble and Shaunesseey
looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch tackle at the end was
a match winning tackle.
If we play with that tempo against most teams in this division, we'll beat
most.

As for the Doctor's comments, WTF?  Were you watching the same game as us?

Ted H
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[nat...@sky.com]

Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. 
Alioski is the opposite so far he shows the odd flash of brilliance and does 
have a good work ethic but I think he is finding it faster and more committed 
than he expected - maybe leave him on the bench for a while ?
THe keeper still does not fill me with confidence but it is clear what the plan 
is with him throwing it out, almost all the time, and generally very quickly - 
the defenders (and this is the 4th different back four in his 4 games) need to 
get in tune with him and him them.
Pontus - did not notice him at all - not sure if this is good or bad. There was 
one great Pontus-style last minute tackle in the box last nigh, but that was by 
Shaughnessey !
We need to be patient - it is better than this time last season - and we need 
Wood to start scoring or Ekuban to get a run late on to help him out
Dave

 
  
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Monk would never play Saiz and Hernandez in the same team

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 5:35 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> thought we played well second half.
> Wood was the weak link for me and the subs were poor (bringing on Roofe !!??)
> why has TC adopted Monk's one striker at home. I woul dhave subbed Wood but 
> surely Ekuban should have come on to give a different option either in place 
> or alongside our flat footed striker.
> Shaugnessy looks like a prospect to me but I think both full backs showed a 
> lack of pace tonight - they were playing against very pacey wingers.
> they didn't create that much and if they're certs for top 6 I don't think 
> we'll be far behind. 
> 
>  From: David W <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> To: David Boocock <boococ...@gmail.com>; Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} 
> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017, 22:27
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> Oh come on. Cardiff and Ipswich are 2 of those 3. Being a bit of a drama 
> Queen there.
> 
> 
>   Original Message  
> From: David Boocock
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:08
> To: Michael Benjamin
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> Not a good look, the top 3 teams are already a win and a draw ahead of the
> pack.
> 
> Dave
>> On 16/08/2017 6:43 AM, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com> wrote:
>> 
>> An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
>> If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
>> A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday
>> 
>> Dr Michael Benjamin,
>> Community Psychiatrist.
>> 
>> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
>> PHONE: +972-505-317772
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>> 
>> |-----Original Message-
>> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
>> {broken-
>> |address}
>> |Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
>> |To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> |
>> |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to
>> each other.
>> |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't
>> make
>> |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
>> |
>> |
>> |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez)
>> get
>> |muscled off the ball too frequently.
>> |
>> |
>> |Cheers!
>> |
>> |
>> |Sean
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |-Original Message-
>> |From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
>> |broken.gn.apc.org>
>> |To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
>> |Subject: [LU] Fulham
>> |
>> |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
>> |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us -
>> another
>> |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he
>> tried to
>> |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy
>> done ok
>> |apart from his passing
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[David W]

   I thought the same in last match. He seems reluctant / unwilling to
   switch to 2 up front. Which seems odd because in a last 10 minute push,
   Wood flicking on for Ekuban to attack would seem to make sense. You
   have to be willing to try direct even if it isn't your Plan A.

   From: Richard Walker
   Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:39
   To: David W; David Boocock; Michael Benjamin
   Reply To: Richard Walker
   Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
   Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

   thought we played well second half.
   Wood was the weak link for me and the subs were poor (bringing on Roofe
   !!??)
   why has TC adopted Monk's one striker at home. I woul dhave subbed Wood
   but surely Ekuban should have come on to give a different option either
   in place or alongside our flat footed striker.
   Shaugnessy looks like a prospect to me but I think both full backs
   showed a lack of pace tonight - they were playing against very pacey
   wingers.
   they didn't create that much and if they're certs for top 6 I don't
   think we'll be far behind.
 __

   From: David W <davidwool...@gmail.com>
   To: David Boocock <boococ...@gmail.com>; Michael Benjamin
   <m...@myray.com>
   Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
   <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
   Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017, 22:27
   Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   Oh come on. Cardiff and Ipswich are 2 of those 3. Being a bit of a
   drama Queen there.
 Original Message
   From: David Boocock
   Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:08
   To: Michael Benjamin
   Cc: [1]leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
   Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   Not a good look, the top 3 teams are already a win and a draw ahead of
   the
   pack.
   Dave
   On 16/08/2017 6:43 AM, "Michael Benjamin" <[2]m...@myray.com> wrote:
   > An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
   > If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
   > A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday
   >
   > Dr Michael Benjamin,
   > Community Psychiatrist.
   >
   > SKYPE: BEDENOGA
   > PHONE: +972-505-317772
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   > AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
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   >
   > |-Original Message-
   > |From: Leedslist [mailto:[3]leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf
   Of
   > {broken-
   > |address}
   > |Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
   > |To: [4]richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; [5]leedslist@gn.apc.org
   > |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   > |
   > |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting
   used to
   > each other.
   > |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble"
   doesn't
   > make
   > |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
   > |
   > |
   > |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially,
   Hernandez)
   > get
   > |muscled off the ball too frequently.
   > |
   > |
   > |Cheers!
   > |
   > |
   > |Sean
   > |
   > |
   > |
   > |-Original Message-
   > |From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
   <[6]richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
   > |broken.gn.apc.org>
   > |To: Leeds List <[7]leedslist@gn.apc.org>
   > |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
   > |Subject: [LU] Fulham
   > |
   > |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
   > |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to
   us -
   > another
   > |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as
   he
   > tried to
   > |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection
   saughnessy
   > done ok
   > |apart from his passing
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

What??!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> An awful match. Nothing positive to say. 
> If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked. 
> A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday 
> 
> Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
> Community Psychiatrist.
> 
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE; 
> myRay: Online CBT
> 
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-
> |address}
> |Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
> |To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to 
> each other.
> |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't make
> |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
> |
> |
> |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez) get
> |muscled off the ball too frequently.
> |
> |
> |Cheers!
> |
> |
> |Sean
> |
> |
> |
> |-Original Message-
> |From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> |broken.gn.apc.org>
> |To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
> |Subject: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
> |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us - 
> another
> |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he tried 
> to
> |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy done ok
> |apart from his passing
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

thought we played well second half.
Wood was the weak link for me and the subs were poor (bringing on Roofe !!??)
why has TC adopted Monk's one striker at home. I woul dhave subbed Wood but 
surely Ekuban should have come on to give a different option either in place or 
alongside our flat footed striker.
Shaugnessy looks like a prospect to me but I think both full backs showed a 
lack of pace tonight - they were playing against very pacey wingers.
they didn't create that much and if they're certs for top 6 I don't think we'll 
be far behind. 

  From: David W <davidwool...@gmail.com>
 To: David Boocock <boococ...@gmail.com>; Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} 
<seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017, 22:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Oh come on. Cardiff and Ipswich are 2 of those 3. Being a bit of a drama Queen 
there.


  Original Message  
From: David Boocock
Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:08
To: Michael Benjamin
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

Not a good look, the top 3 teams are already a win and a draw ahead of the
pack.

Dave
On 16/08/2017 6:43 AM, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
> If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
> A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday
>
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> {broken-
> |address}
> |Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
> |To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to
> each other.
> |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't
> make
> |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
> |
> |
> |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez)
> get
> |muscled off the ball too frequently.
> |
> |
> |Cheers!
> |
> |
> |Sean
> |
> |
> |
> |-Original Message-
> |From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> |broken.gn.apc.org>
> |To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
> |Subject: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
> |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us -
> another
> |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he
> tried to
> |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy
> done ok
> |apart from his passing
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[David W]

Oh come on. Cardiff and Ipswich are 2 of those 3. Being a bit of a drama Queen 
there.


  Original Message  
From: David Boocock
Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:08
To: Michael Benjamin
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

Not a good look, the top 3 teams are already a win and a draw ahead of the
pack.

Dave
On 16/08/2017 6:43 AM, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
> If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
> A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday
>
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> {broken-
> |address}
> |Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
> |To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to
> each other.
> |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't
> make
> |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
> |
> |
> |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez)
> get
> |muscled off the ball too frequently.
> |
> |
> |Cheers!
> |
> |
> |Sean
> |
> |
> |
> |-Original Message-
> |From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> |broken.gn.apc.org>
> |To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
> |Subject: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
> |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us -
> another
> |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he
> tried to
> |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy
> done ok
> |apart from his passing
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[David Boocock]

Not a good look, the top 3 teams are already a win and a draw ahead of the
pack.

Dave
On 16/08/2017 6:43 AM, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
> If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
> A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday
>
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> {broken-
> |address}
> |Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
> |To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to
> each other.
> |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't
> make
> |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
> |
> |
> |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez)
> get
> |muscled off the ball too frequently.
> |
> |
> |Cheers!
> |
> |
> |Sean
> |
> |
> |
> |-Original Message-
> |From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> |broken.gn.apc.org>
> |To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
> |Subject: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
> |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us -
> another
> |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he
> tried to
> |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy
> done ok
> |apart from his passing
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[Michael Benjamin]

An awful match. Nothing positive to say. 
If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked. 
A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday 

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|address}
|Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:51 PM
|To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
|Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
|
|Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to each 
other.
|Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't make
|sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
|
|
|In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez) get
|muscled off the ball too frequently.
|
|
|Cheers!
|
|
|Sean
|
|
|
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|Subject: [LU] Fulham
|
|Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
|everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us - another
|Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he tried to
|chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy done ok
|apart from his passing
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[{broken-address}]

Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to each 
other. Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't 
make sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.


In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez) get 
muscled off the ball too frequently.


Cheers!


Sean



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Subject: [LU] Fulham

Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for 
everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us - another 
Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he tried to 
chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy done ok 
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[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for everything.
but they play so open we are still in it.
best chance to us - another Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he 
was \berkamp as he tried to chip keeper -laughable
fulham hit post 
weird team selection 
saughnessy done ok apart from his passing 

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Re: [LU] Fulham report

[Richard Naef]

Difference this time *might* be that he'll be given the money/support to
complete the job, but it will be a long process and have loads of set backs
on the way, that's if Cellino holds his nerve and doesn't start acting like
a twat again!

 

ttfn

 

Richard

 

 

From: Phill Shields [mailto:phillshie...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 17 August 2016 12:18
To: Richard Naef; leeds list
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham report

 

Leeds were totally outplayed from the 1st to last minute last night and
there should be a criminal investigation into how we got a point.

 

My biggest concern was how Tom Cairney (ex Leeds of course) dominated the
midfield and Monk did nothing tactically to address it. Monk was outsmarted
2nd half by Rowatt on Saturday and for all of last night's game. I will say
that Fulham are far and away the best team we have played and based on last
night I see them being in the promotion battle.

 

I have a bad feeling that Monk is doing another job like Gary McAllister
tried at Leeds. The midfield is so lightweight because he wants to play
football but we can never get the ball back when we lose it, which is often.
You need to have options, Bridcutt will obviously help here but we need much
more than him in the middle.

 

We need a goalie, left back, centre back and striker and not reservists from
european clubs who have never competed or proven themselves in the
Championship.

 

Going to pig sty on Saturday and expecting the worst.

 

MOT 

 

  

 

  _  

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Richard Naef
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Sent: 17 August 2016 10:05
To: leeds list
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham report 

 

Thanks Dave,  sounds like a little step forward on the long march we have
embarked on, but lots of work needs to be done on the defence, whether
Jansson is the answer we'll see but Him and Bartlett look like a better
partnership than Cooper and Bamba for sure.  How did Taylor perform?  What
do you think of Ayling?

ttfn

Richard


> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 17 August 2016 07:48
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Fulham report
> 
> Well we came away reasonably happy but only due to a last gasp brilliant
> equaliser by Wood, and to be honest I am not sure we deserved itWe could
> easily have been 3 down at half time after a first 45mins when they were
all
> over us. Apart from Antonsson beating his man but failing to beat the
> keeper one on one (v similar to QPR game) and a Wood header that went
> wide and was offside anyway we created nothing really, one cross from
> Dallas did seem to just elude the strikers but how close any of them were
to
> it was hard to see.Fulham on the other hand carved us open a few times and
> hit the post, the bar and made Green pull off two saves. Matt Smith  hit
the
> bar (2nd half) had a header under pressure from both CBs and went straight
> at Green, and then was through on goal but his lack of pace meant that he
> was soon caught.
> We looked lost but did improve second half without really troubling them.
> Then with 15 mins left they got a corner, we never cleared it from our
half
> and then their lad lashed it in from a hard angle. This took the steam out
of
> a crowd who had spent the whole second half really trying to lift the team
> and get behind them.
> Then with minutes to go Antonsson slipped between the defenders and put
> in a cross that Wood had to score from but no he headed it into the ground
> and over the bar. Game over we all thought but then another cross came
> in  in injury time and Wood with his back to goal produced a great
overhead
> kick and the ball ended in the net. Cue celebrations and releif in the
stands
> and an insult from Wood as he cupped his ear to the Kop. Silly boy -OK not
> Mark Aizlewood but not the way to quiten his critics on a day when he was
> rubbish again and when the crowd had really gone to town to try and get
> behind the team So not great and it will take more than Bridcutt to turn
> things around, but there were spells again when we looked half decent and
> given time and a couple more (more than the 9 already brought in) signings
> things could look up. This point will mean that Monk will not be sacked
just
> yet and may give Wood some much needed confindence
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Re: [LU] Fulham report

[Phill Shields]

Leeds were totally outplayed from the 1st to last minute last night and there 
should be a criminal investigation into how we got a point.


My biggest concern was how Tom Cairney (ex Leeds of course) dominated the 
midfield and Monk did nothing tactically to address it. Monk was outsmarted 2nd 
half by Rowatt on Saturday and for all of last night's game. I will say that 
Fulham are far and away the best team we have played and based on last night I 
see them being in the promotion battle.


I have a bad feeling that Monk is doing another job like Gary McAllister tried 
at Leeds. The midfield is so lightweight because he wants to play football but 
we can never get the ball back when we lose it, which is often. You need to 
have options, Bridcutt will obviously help here but we need much more than him 
in the middle.


We need a goalie, left back, centre back and striker and not reservists from 
european clubs who have never competed or proven themselves in the Championship.


Going to pig sty on Saturday and expecting the worst.


MOT






From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Sent: 17 August 2016 10:05
To: leeds list
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham report

Thanks Dave,  sounds like a little step forward on the long march we have 
embarked on, but lots of work needs to be done on the defence, whether Jansson 
is the answer we'll see but Him and Bartlett look like a better partnership 
than Cooper and Bamba for sure.  How did Taylor perform?  What do you think of 
Ayling?

ttfn

Richard


> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 17 August 2016 07:48
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Fulham report
>
> Well we came away reasonably happy but only due to a last gasp brilliant
> equaliser by Wood, and to be honest I am not sure we deserved itWe could
> easily have been 3 down at half time after a first 45mins when they were all
> over us. Apart from Antonsson beating his man but failing to beat the
> keeper one on one (v similar to QPR game) and a Wood header that went
> wide and was offside anyway we created nothing really, one cross from
> Dallas did seem to just elude the strikers but how close any of them were to
> it was hard to see.Fulham on the other hand carved us open a few times and
> hit the post, the bar and made Green pull off two saves. Matt Smith  hit the
> bar (2nd half) had a header under pressure from both CBs and went straight
> at Green, and then was through on goal but his lack of pace meant that he
> was soon caught.
> We looked lost but did improve second half without really troubling them.
> Then with 15 mins left they got a corner, we never cleared it from our half
> and then their lad lashed it in from a hard angle. This took the steam out of
> a crowd who had spent the whole second half really trying to lift the team
> and get behind them.
> Then with minutes to go Antonsson slipped between the defenders and put
> in a cross that Wood had to score from but no he headed it into the ground
> and over the bar. Game over we all thought but then another cross came
> in  in injury time and Wood with his back to goal produced a great overhead
> kick and the ball ended in the net. Cue celebrations and releif in the stands
> and an insult from Wood as he cupped his ear to the Kop. Silly boy -OK not
> Mark Aizlewood but not the way to quiten his critics on a day when he was
> rubbish again and when the crowd had really gone to town to try and get
> behind the team So not great and it will take more than Bridcutt to turn
> things around, but there were spells again when we looked half decent and
> given time and a couple more (more than the 9 already brought in) signings
> things could look up. This point will mean that Monk will not be sacked just
> yet and may give Wood some much needed confindence
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Re: [LU] Fulham report

[Richard Naef]

Thanks Dave,  sounds like a little step forward on the long march we have 
embarked on, but lots of work needs to be done on the defence, whether Jansson 
is the answer we'll see but Him and Bartlett look like a better partnership 
than Cooper and Bamba for sure.  How did Taylor perform?  What do you think of 
Ayling?

ttfn

Richard


> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 17 August 2016 07:48
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Fulham report
> 
> Well we came away reasonably happy but only due to a last gasp brilliant
> equaliser by Wood, and to be honest I am not sure we deserved itWe could
> easily have been 3 down at half time after a first 45mins when they were all
> over us. Apart from Antonsson beating his man but failing to beat the
> keeper one on one (v similar to QPR game) and a Wood header that went
> wide and was offside anyway we created nothing really, one cross from
> Dallas did seem to just elude the strikers but how close any of them were to
> it was hard to see.Fulham on the other hand carved us open a few times and
> hit the post, the bar and made Green pull off two saves. Matt Smith  hit the
> bar (2nd half) had a header under pressure from both CBs and went straight
> at Green, and then was through on goal but his lack of pace meant that he
> was soon caught.
> We looked lost but did improve second half without really troubling them.
> Then with 15 mins left they got a corner, we never cleared it from our half
> and then their lad lashed it in from a hard angle. This took the steam out of
> a crowd who had spent the whole second half really trying to lift the team
> and get behind them.
> Then with minutes to go Antonsson slipped between the defenders and put
> in a cross that Wood had to score from but no he headed it into the ground
> and over the bar. Game over we all thought but then another cross came
> in  in injury time and Wood with his back to goal produced a great overhead
> kick and the ball ended in the net. Cue celebrations and releif in the stands
> and an insult from Wood as he cupped his ear to the Kop. Silly boy -OK not
> Mark Aizlewood but not the way to quiten his critics on a day when he was
> rubbish again and when the crowd had really gone to town to try and get
> behind the team So not great and it will take more than Bridcutt to turn
> things around, but there were spells again when we looked half decent and
> given time and a couple more (more than the 9 already brought in) signings
> things could look up. This point will mean that Monk will not be sacked just
> yet and may give Wood some much needed confindence
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[nat...@sky.com]

Well we came away reasonably happy but only due to a last gasp brilliant 
equaliser by Wood, and to be honest I am not sure we deserved itWe could easily 
have been 3 down at half time after a first 45mins when they were all over us. 
Apart from Antonsson beating his man but failing to beat the keeper one on one 
(v similar to QPR game) and a Wood header that went wide and was offside anyway 
we created nothing really, one cross from Dallas did seem to just elude the 
strikers but how close any of them were to it was hard to see.Fulham on the 
other hand carved us open a few times and hit the post, the bar and made Green 
pull off two saves. Matt Smith  hit the bar (2nd half) had a header under 
pressure from both CBs and went straight at Green, and then was through on goal 
but his lack of pace meant that he was soon caught.
We looked lost but did improve second half without really troubling them. Then 
with 15 mins left they got a corner, we never cleared it from our half and then 
their lad lashed it in from a hard angle. This took the steam out of a crowd 
who had spent the whole second half really trying to lift the team and get 
behind them.
Then with minutes to go Antonsson slipped between the defenders and put in a 
cross that Wood had to score from but no he headed it into the ground and over 
the bar. Game over we all thought but then another cross came in  in injury 
time and Wood with his back to goal produced a great overhead kick and the ball 
ended in the net. Cue celebrations and releif in the stands and an insult from 
Wood as he cupped his ear to the Kop. Silly boy -OK not Mark Aizlewood but not 
the way to quiten his critics on a day when he was rubbish again and when the 
crowd had really gone to town to try and get behind the team
So not great and it will take more than Bridcutt to turn things around, but 
there were spells again when we looked half decent and given time and a couple 
more (more than the 9 already brought in) signings things could look up. This 
point will mean that Monk will not be sacked just yet and may give Wood some 
much needed confindence
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[wayne callaghan]

Www.ustream.tv/k-s-sports

Just an audio link from radio Leeds

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arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org 
[arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org] > wrote:
On the web tonight anywhere? I am having difficulty this season finding 
links. Video even?

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[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

On the web tonight anywhere? I am having difficulty this season finding links. 
Video even?
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Re: [LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'

[Simon McNally]

Take your point but I would have liked to see redfearn given a chance with a 
squad that he'd built without all the crap going on in the background.

I wouldn't have sacked rosler either!

Simon 

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> On 24 Feb 2016, at 19:42, Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't think Redfearn was all that and Evans is full of shit. Rosler should 
> have been given more time.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Agree with Dave.
>> Everything we do looks an effort.
>> It was an odd atmosphere, low crowd , freezing cold etc but I was reasonably 
>> happy with the selection and the performance was much better.
>> Coyle at right back was fantastic and I was pleased to see mowatt back - he 
>> picked out antenucci with a peach of a cross just before half time but he 
>> headed straight at the keeper.
>> Adeyemi was innocuous - I thought he'd gone off long before he actually did! 
>> I would have liked to have seen both Erwin and botaka for longer. We miss 
>> wood though, I thought doukara was poor and antenucci even worse.
>> Doukara isn't good enough for this level and antenucci has stopped trying.
>> Silvestri was also poor - I'd like to see their goal again. It was from 20 
>> yards out and didn't seem that hard a strike but he didn't move. He was also 
>> back to his indecisive self - he must be s nightmare to play in front of as 
>> he never deals with crosses or through balls well enough. 
>> Evans' presser was interesting again. He predictably tried to claim some 
>> credit for cook's goal by saying he's been encouraging him to shoot more.
>> He also claims that he knows what's coming in the summer and will be given 
>> funds to build a promotion team or he won't be staying.
>> Part of me would love to believe it but I can't help thinking he's a chancer 
>> who's way out of his depth and is totally full of shit! One win in ten and 
>> 13 goals in 17 home games does not fill me with confidence that he's the man 
>> to take us forward even if he was given money to spend. Redfearn did better 
>> last season with a squad that looks weaker on paper and i don't think Evans' 
>> signings have saved us from relegation as he was claiming last week!
>> 
>> Simon  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 10:12, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Dave, if we are taking the positives, at least it looks as if Coyne 
>>> will be able to step up to this level.  Otherwise another wasted season.  
>>> Most disappointing is how we've managed to drag a promising player like 
>>> Dallas down to our Level.
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
>>>> Sent: 24 February 2016 07:37
>>>> To: Leeds List
>>>> Subject: [LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'
>>>> 
>>>> Half way through the second half my mate turned to me and said "why is
>>>> everything we do so, i don't know, laboured?" That one word 'laboured'
>>>> pretty much sums up the way we play, not just yesterday but for pretty
>>>> much the whole season. Nothing seems to flow it is all so pedestrian
>>>> and  football by numbers and such hard work for them.Having said that last
>>>> night was a lot better than recent games against probably the worst team I
>>>> have seen this season. We scored a goal, had a few other shots and if 
>>>> Dallas
>>>> had put away a sitter we may even have won. Wootton was taken out of the
>>>> firing line after his og on Saturday and replaced by Coyle who did not look
>>>> out of place in the first team. Bridcutt was replaced by Adeyemi although I
>>>> did not know this until Adeymi was subbed and someone shouted 'good
>>>> riddance Adeymi you're rubbish' - I thought he was Bridcutt. Not sure
>>>> whether that proves how little he got involved in the match or how little i
>>>> know ?Other than him we mainly did Ok  with most of the players deserving
>>>> a 7 out of ten.We started quite well and had them on the back foot - our
>>>> usual keeping possession without doing much with it although we did look a
>>>> bit more threatening albeit with a total lack of width and wingers. Taylor
>>>> and Coyle both got forward and Doukara, in spellls, gave them a har

Re: [LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'

[Simon McNally]

Agree with Dave.
Everything we do looks an effort.
It was an odd atmosphere, low crowd , freezing cold etc but I was reasonably 
happy with the selection and the performance was much better.
Coyle at right back was fantastic and I was pleased to see mowatt back - he 
picked out antenucci with a peach of a cross just before half time but he 
headed straight at the keeper.
Adeyemi was innocuous - I thought he'd gone off long before he actually did! I 
would have liked to have seen both Erwin and botaka for longer. We miss wood 
though, I thought doukara was poor and antenucci even worse.
Doukara isn't good enough for this level and antenucci has stopped trying.
Silvestri was also poor - I'd like to see their goal again. It was from 20 
yards out and didn't seem that hard a strike but he didn't move. He was also 
back to his indecisive self - he must be s nightmare to play in front of as he 
never deals with crosses or through balls well enough. 
Evans' presser was interesting again. He predictably tried to claim some credit 
for cook's goal by saying he's been encouraging him to shoot more.
He also claims that he knows what's coming in the summer and will be given 
funds to build a promotion team or he won't be staying.
Part of me would love to believe it but I can't help thinking he's a chancer 
who's way out of his depth and is totally full of shit! One win in ten and 13 
goals in 17 home games does not fill me with confidence that he's the man to 
take us forward even if he was given money to spend. Redfearn did better last 
season with a squad that looks weaker on paper and i don't think Evans' 
signings have saved us from relegation as he was claiming last week!

Simon  

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> On 24 Feb 2016, at 10:12, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dave, if we are taking the positives, at least it looks as if Coyne 
> will be able to step up to this level.  Otherwise another wasted season.  
> Most disappointing is how we've managed to drag a promising player like 
> Dallas down to our Level.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
>> On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
>> Sent: 24 February 2016 07:37
>> To: Leeds List
>> Subject: [LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'
>> 
>> Half way through the second half my mate turned to me and said "why is
>> everything we do so, i don't know, laboured?" That one word 'laboured'
>> pretty much sums up the way we play, not just yesterday but for pretty
>> much the whole season. Nothing seems to flow it is all so pedestrian
>> and  football by numbers and such hard work for them.Having said that last
>> night was a lot better than recent games against probably the worst team I
>> have seen this season. We scored a goal, had a few other shots and if Dallas
>> had put away a sitter we may even have won. Wootton was taken out of the
>> firing line after his og on Saturday and replaced by Coyle who did not look
>> out of place in the first team. Bridcutt was replaced by Adeyemi although I
>> did not know this until Adeymi was subbed and someone shouted 'good
>> riddance Adeymi you're rubbish' - I thought he was Bridcutt. Not sure
>> whether that proves how little he got involved in the match or how little i
>> know ?Other than him we mainly did Ok  with most of the players deserving
>> a 7 out of ten.We started quite well and had them on the back foot - our
>> usual keeping possession without doing much with it although we did look a
>> bit more threatening albeit with a total lack of width and wingers. Taylor
>> and Coyle both got forward and Doukara, in spellls, gave them a hard time,
>> then came what feels like almost inevitable, we fail to capitalise on our
>> possession and they break forward. I have not seen the goals since but it
>> was a bit of a strange one in that the lad hit if from just inside the area 
>> with
>> no real pace or precision but Silvestri just stood rooted to the spot and
>> made no attempt to save it. DId it take a deflection and wrong foot him or
>> did he think it was going wide, who knows ?Silvestri did redeem himself a bit
>> , later on, when he pulled off a good save as we lost a bit of shape and
>> confidence. Then came the minute that made the ticket price worth it on its
>> own (even Cat A - lol) the ball came to our midfield player 30 yards out and
>> he lashed it swerving and swirling into the top corner and absolute peach -
>> but as we all prepared to congratulate Mowatt we thought, hang on a
>> minute, that was Cook, yes our goal shy, shot shy midfielder had not only
>> shot from way way out but he had scored - pandemonium ensued with my
>> son, for the res

Re: [LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'

[Richard Naef]

Thanks Dave, if we are taking the positives, at least it looks as if Coyne will 
be able to step up to this level.  Otherwise another wasted season.  Most 
disappointing is how we've managed to drag a promising player like Dallas down 
to our Level.

> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 24 February 2016 07:37
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'
> 
> Half way through the second half my mate turned to me and said "why is
> everything we do so, i don't know, laboured?" That one word 'laboured'
> pretty much sums up the way we play, not just yesterday but for pretty
> much the whole season. Nothing seems to flow it is all so pedestrian
> and  football by numbers and such hard work for them.Having said that last
> night was a lot better than recent games against probably the worst team I
> have seen this season. We scored a goal, had a few other shots and if Dallas
> had put away a sitter we may even have won. Wootton was taken out of the
> firing line after his og on Saturday and replaced by Coyle who did not look
> out of place in the first team. Bridcutt was replaced by Adeyemi although I
> did not know this until Adeymi was subbed and someone shouted 'good
> riddance Adeymi you're rubbish' - I thought he was Bridcutt. Not sure
> whether that proves how little he got involved in the match or how little i
> know ?Other than him we mainly did Ok  with most of the players deserving
> a 7 out of ten.We started quite well and had them on the back foot - our
> usual keeping possession without doing much with it although we did look a
> bit more threatening albeit with a total lack of width and wingers. Taylor
> and Coyle both got forward and Doukara, in spellls, gave them a hard time,
> then came what feels like almost inevitable, we fail to capitalise on our
> possession and they break forward. I have not seen the goals since but it
> was a bit of a strange one in that the lad hit if from just inside the area 
> with
> no real pace or precision but Silvestri just stood rooted to the spot and
> made no attempt to save it. DId it take a deflection and wrong foot him or
> did he think it was going wide, who knows ?Silvestri did redeem himself a bit
> , later on, when he pulled off a good save as we lost a bit of shape and
> confidence. Then came the minute that made the ticket price worth it on its
> own (even Cat A - lol) the ball came to our midfield player 30 yards out and
> he lashed it swerving and swirling into the top corner and absolute peach -
> but as we all prepared to congratulate Mowatt we thought, hang on a
> minute, that was Cook, yes our goal shy, shot shy midfielder had not only
> shot from way way out but he had scored - pandemonium ensued with my
> son, for the rest of the game saying variations of 'how the f did that go in'.
> We regained control of the game again then and as we went in to applause
> at half time we thought this may be the home game when we scored more
> than two.Second half was more of the same although our actual threat level
> went down a bit but we could have both won and lost the game when each
> side missed a glorious chance. Their player was clean through but made a
> total mess of it and ended up with a tame back heel, for us a great move
> with Doukara feeding Cook whose cross fell perfectly to Dallas (on as a sub
> for the ineffective Antenucci) all he had to do was hit it on target, he even
> had acres of time and space if required but he shot wide an awful miss.
> After that not much happened, Erwin came on and looked better than he
> has done in the past, maybe he needs a run of games to see what he can do,
> and the much maligned (by Evans anyway) Botaka got five minutes at the
> end - not sure what he can do in that time to change the managers view of
> him?So 1 1 and another point towards safety (not that we are in real danger)
> Fulham looked dreadful apart from McCormack who was largely quiet (one
> free kick on the edge of the box had us worried till it flashed over) when he
> did have the ball he looked a class above. He got some stick from the crowd
> with boos and greedy chants. Cellino got an easy ride from the 17,000  who
> braved the cold to watch it.We need a number of new players next season,
> but we all know that, and need to stop everything being so 'laboured'
> Dave
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[LU] Fulham report - aka' laboured'

[nat...@sky.com]

Half way through the second half my mate turned to me and said "why is 
everything we do so, i don't know, laboured?" That one word 'laboured' pretty 
much sums up the way we play, not just yesterday but for pretty much the whole 
season. Nothing seems to flow it is all so pedestrian and  football by numbers 
and such hard work for them.Having said that last night was a lot better than 
recent games against probably the worst team I have seen this season. We scored 
a goal, had a few other shots and if Dallas had put away a sitter we may even 
have won. Wootton was taken out of the firing line after his og on Saturday and 
replaced by Coyle who did not look out of place in the first team. Bridcutt was 
replaced by Adeyemi although I did not know this until Adeymi was subbed and 
someone shouted 'good riddance Adeymi you're rubbish' - I thought he was 
Bridcutt. Not sure whether that proves how little he got involved in the match 
or how little i know ?Other than him we mainly did Ok  with most of the players 
deserving a 7 out of ten.We started quite well and had them on the back foot - 
our usual keeping possession without doing much with it although we did look a 
bit more threatening albeit with a total lack of width and wingers. Taylor and 
Coyle both got forward and Doukara, in spellls, gave them a hard time, then 
came what feels like almost inevitable, we fail to capitalise on our possession 
and they break forward. I have not seen the goals since but it was a bit of a 
strange one in that the lad hit if from just inside the area with no real pace 
or precision but Silvestri just stood rooted to the spot and made no attempt to 
save it. DId it take a deflection and wrong foot him or did he think it was 
going wide, who knows ?Silvestri did redeem himself a bit , later on, when he 
pulled off a good save as we lost a bit of shape and confidence. Then came the 
minute that made the ticket price worth it on its own (even Cat A - lol) the 
ball came to our midfield player 30 yards out and he lashed it swerving and 
swirling into the top corner and absolute peach - but as we all prepared to 
congratulate Mowatt we thought, hang on a minute, that was Cook, yes our goal 
shy, shot shy midfielder had not only shot from way way out but he had scored - 
pandemonium ensued with my son, for the rest of the game saying variations of 
'how the f did that go in'. We regained control of the game again then and as 
we went in to applause at half time we thought this may be the home game when 
we scored more than two.Second half was more of the same although our actual 
threat level went down a bit but we could have both won and lost the game when 
each side missed a glorious chance. Their player was clean through but made a 
total mess of it and ended up with a tame back heel, for us a great move with 
Doukara feeding Cook whose cross fell perfectly to Dallas (on as a sub for the 
ineffective Antenucci) all he had to do was hit it on target, he even had acres 
of time and space if required but he shot wide an awful miss. 
After that not much happened, Erwin came on and looked better than he has done 
in the past, maybe he needs a run of games to see what he can do, and the much 
maligned (by Evans anyway) Botaka got five minutes at the end - not sure what 
he can do in that time to change the managers view of him?So 1 1 and another 
point towards safety (not that we are in real danger) Fulham looked dreadful 
apart from McCormack who was largely quiet (one free kick on the edge of the 
box had us worried till it flashed over) when he did have the ball he looked a 
class above. He got some stick from the crowd with boos and greedy chants. 
Cellino got an easy ride from the 17,000  who braved the cold to watch it.We 
need a number of new players next season, but we all know that, and need to 
stop everything being so 'laboured'
Dave
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[Robinson, Mick]

Just got there now, on my first pint 

Mick


> On 21 Oct 2015, at 12:46, {broken-address} Graham White 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like the Bricklayer's Arms is the pub of choice for anyone joining the 
> mini-List meet (MLM?)
> Gosh, this is all more exciting than the prospect of actually watching a 
> football match!  :-)
> Cheers Graham White
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, 9:02, David Brennan 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there,
>> around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the
>> window to say when it would open.
>> 
>> Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in 
>> the
>> Duke's head and take it from there :-)
> 
> I don't mind which pub.  If my train isn't delayed I should be in Putney by 
> about 4.30.  
> 
> I'll go to Duke's Head first.
> 
> Graham, my distinguishing features are 50 year old man, grey/balding, very 
> short hair.  So not like most of the other football fans at all.
> 
> DRB
> 
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Bastard. So jealous. Stuck in my cube in Michigan. What I would do to be there 
now in my old stomping ground with the expectation of seeing Leeds.
Don't forget the church from the Omen when you walk across the bridge will be 
right in front of you!


Nick
  From: "Robinson, Mick" <mick.robin...@miq.com>
 To: Graham White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; David Brennan 
<d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk> 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub
   
Just got there now, on my first pint 

Mick


> On 21 Oct 2015, at 12:46, {broken-address} Graham White 
> <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Looks like the Bricklayer's Arms is the pub of choice for anyone joining the 
> mini-List meet (MLM?)
> Gosh, this is all more exciting than the prospect of actually watching a 
> football match!  :-)
> Cheers Graham White
> 
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, 9:02, David Brennan 
><d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there,
>> around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the
>> window to say when it would open.
>> 
>> Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in 
>> the
>> Duke's head and take it from there :-)
> 
> I don't mind which pub.  If my train isn't delayed I should be in Putney by 
> about 4.30.  
> 
> I'll go to Duke's Head first.
> 
> Graham, my distinguishing features are 50 year old man, grey/balding, very 
> short hair.  So not like most of the other football fans at all.
> 
> DRB
> 
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[{broken-address} Graham White]

Looks like the Bricklayer's Arms is the pub of choice for anyone joining the 
mini-List meet (MLM?)
Gosh, this is all more exciting than the prospect of actually watching a 
football match!  :-)
Cheers Graham White
 


 On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, 9:02, David Brennan 
 wrote:
   

 > 
> The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there,
> around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the
> window to say when it would open.
> 
> Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in the
> Duke's head and take it from there :-)

I don't mind which pub.  If my train isn't delayed I should be in Putney by 
about 4.30.  

I'll go to Duke's Head first.

Graham, my distinguishing features are 50 year old man, grey/balding, very 
short hair.  So not like most of the other football fans at all.

DRB

  
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[David Brennan]

> 
> The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there,
> around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the
> window to say when it would open.
> 
> Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in the
> Duke's head and take it from there :-)

I don't mind which pub.  If my train isn't delayed I should be in Putney by 
about 4.30.   

I'll go to Duke's Head first.

Graham, my distinguishing features are 50 year old man, grey/balding, very 
short hair.  So not like most of the other football fans at all.

DRB
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[Robinson, Mick]

The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there, 
around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the 
window to say when it would open.

Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in the 
Duke's head and take it from there :-)



-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 20 October 2015 16:59
To: Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com>
Cc: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub

Would agree here.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the last 
> 20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat set 
> infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a second 
> mortgage for dinner.
> 
> 
> By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
> Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
> better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.
> 
> 
> The Bricklayer's Arms
> 
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

The Star and Shafter (Garter) is next door to the Duke's too. Used to be kind 
of crap but right on the river. The Half Moon is down the Lower Richmond Road a 
bit. Eight Bells right near Putney Bridge tube station was also ok once. Cannot 
vouch for any of these any more though.
Got hammered in the Brick many times.
Nick




  From: "Robinson, Mick" <mick.robin...@miq.com>
 To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
"Rick Duniec (@ntl)" <ri...@ntlworld.com> 
Cc: "Leedslist@gn.apc.org" <Leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 2:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub
   
The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there, 
around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the 
window to say when it would open.

Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in the 
Duke's head and take it from there :-)



-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 20 October 2015 16:59
To: Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com>
Cc: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub

Would agree here.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the last 
> 20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat set 
> infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a second 
> mortgage for dinner.
> 
> 
> By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
> Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
> better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.
> 
> 
> The Bricklayer's Arms
> 
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> recipients. The message is attached below. The remote mail system said: 5.7.1 
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[Robinson, Mick]

Bricklayers - We open 4pm - 11pm Monday to Thursday and noon - 11pm Friday to 
Sunday. Last orders on a Sunday though is 10.30pm.





From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 20 October 2015 20:04
To: Robinson, Mick <mick.robin...@miq.com>; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com>
Cc: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub

The Star and Shafter (Garter) is next door to the Duke's too. Used to be kind 
of crap but right on the river. The Half Moon is down the Lower Richmond Road a 
bit. Eight Bells right near Putney Bridge tube station was also ok once. Cannot 
vouch for any of these any more though.

Got hammered in the Brick many times.

Nick






From: "Robinson, Mick" <mick.robin...@miq.com<mailto:mick.robin...@miq.com>>
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>>;
 "Rick Duniec (@ntl)" <ri...@ntlworld.com<mailto:ri...@ntlworld.com>>
Cc: "Leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:Leedslist@gn.apc.org>" 
<Leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:Leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub

The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there, 
around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the 
window to say when it would open.

Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in the 
Duke's head and take it from there :-)



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Behalf Of {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 20 October 2015 16:59
To: Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com<mailto:ri...@ntlworld.com>>
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Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub

Would agree here.

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Rick Duniec (@ntl) 
> <ri...@ntlworld.com<mailto:ri...@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>
> Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the last 
> 20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat set 
> infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a second 
> mortgage for dinner.
>
>
> By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
> Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
> better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.
>
>
> The Bricklayer's Arms
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Same as 1985 then!
  From: "Robinson, Mick" <mick.robin...@miq.com>
 To: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com>; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; "Rick Duniec (@ntl)" 
<ri...@ntlworld.com> 
Cc: "Leedslist@gn.apc.org" <Leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 3:15 PM
 Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham pub
   
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div.yiv7850929863WordSection1 {}#yiv7850929863    Bricklayers - We open 4pm - 
11pm Monday to Thursday and noon - 11pm Friday to Sunday. Last orders on a 
Sunday though is 10.30pm.       

    

From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 20 October 2015 20:04
To: Robinson, Mick <mick.robin...@miq.com>; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com>
Cc: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub    The Star and Shafter (Garter) is next door to 
the Duke's too. Used to be kind of crap but right on the river. The Half Moon 
is down the Lower Richmond Road a bit. Eight Bells right near Putney Bridge 
tube station was also ok once. Cannot vouch for any of these any more though.   
 Got hammered in the Brick many times.    Nick                From: "Robinson, 
Mick" <mick.robin...@miq.com>
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
"Rick Duniec (@ntl)" <ri...@ntlworld.com>
Cc: "Leedslist@gn.apc.org" <Leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub 
The Bricklayers Arms was the pub of choice last year but when I got there, 
around 14:30, it was closed but not closed down.  There were no times in the 
window to say when it would open.

Looks like it opens at 16:00, I have emailed them to check. Maybe start in the 
Duke's head and take it from there :-)



-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 20 October 2015 16:59
To: Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com>
Cc: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham pub

Would agree here.

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Rick Duniec (@ntl) <ri...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the last 
> 20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat set 
> infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a second 
> mortgage for dinner.
> 
> 
> By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
> Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
> better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.
> 
> 
> The Bricklayer's Arms
> 
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Re: [LU] Fulham pub

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Would agree here.

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Rick Duniec (@ntl)  wrote:
> 
> Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the last 
> 20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat set 
> infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a second 
> mortgage for dinner.
> 
> 
> By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
> Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
> better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.
> 
> 
> The Bricklayer's Arms
> 
> This is the mail system at host know-smtprelay-1-imp. I am sorry to have to 
> inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more 
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Rick Duniec (@ntl)]

From a local beer drinker -


Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the 
last 20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat 
set infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a 
second mortgage for dinner.



By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.



The Bricklayer's Arms

- Original Message - 
So is the Duke's Head the pub of choice then? What time will folks be 
there? If anyone recognises me from the MOALM can they give me a shout, as 
I can't remember anyone or anything from that (although let's not go 
there - I blame Guy Thornton!). 


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[LU] Fulham pub

[Rick Duniec (@ntl)]

Secondly, the Duke's Head has been remade and remodelled so often in the last 
20 years that it has all but lost its character. The rugby and toy boat set 
infest the place. It is pricey for its Young's beer and you'd need a second 
mortgage for dinner.


By far the best pub is 'The Bricklayer's Arms', which is nearby on Waterman 
Road. It's a Fulham pub, but the landlady welcomes all and the beer is far 
better, since it's a local CAMRA winner.


The Bricklayer's Arms

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