[LegacyUG] RTF reports

[Jan Roberts]

I have just noticed a few additional things with the Descendant Narrative
Report when I create it as an rtf file.  Although I have selected to have
page number and compiler information etc. printed as a footer these do NOT
appear in the rtf version.  They appear in the screen / printer option, and
also in the pdf option.  However, I need to edit just about every report I
create, so those options are not viable for me.  Has anyone else noticed the
same behaviour?

 

Cheers,

Jan

 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

[Penny]

Denise, I think I'm going to have to disagree on this question with others
who have replied thus far.

Birth and death certificates, at least in Texas, are now and have always
been handled a little differently than marriage certificates.  I don't know
if this holds true for other states - probably not in all of them.

I have three original "marriage certificates" from the State of Texas: my
own, my parents, and my paternal grandparents.I also have a certified
copy of my own marriage cert. and am, therefore, able to compare to see the
differences.

In Texas, these are what are issued as "marriage licenses".  Couple goes to
the County Clerk to get one; once the prerequisites are met, it's signed &
issued by said County Clerk, and the couple takes it with them to whomever
is going to perform the wedding ceremony.  The person who performs the rites
(whether minister or other) then signs and fills in the date and location of
the ceremony and he/she sends it back to the issuing County Clerk for
recording.  The Co. Clerk then records it - (by making an exact transcript
that looks very much like the original except that the signatures (of the
minister/JP and the County Clerk) are typed in instead of actually signed.
The Clerk then mails the original back to the couple.  When a certified copy
is later issued, it's not a photocopy of the original, it's a copy of the
transcribed record held in the Clerk's office (duly signed & stamped by the
current County Clerk or authorized personnel as being authentic).

On the back of the **originals** is where you find where exactly this
marriage is recorded in Texas.  It will say something like:
Filed the 9th day of April 1935
W.A. Tittle (actual signature)
Clerk County Court of Terry County
Recorded in Book 3, Page 208 of Marriage Records

This is a long way around to say:  You bet I would put the citation in
stating who holds the original.  I record the provenance of an original
marriage record just as I would the provenance of a family Bible.  I
certainly will find a way (when I re-enter these via Source Writer) to
include where the certificate was recorded.  Others will be able to find it
from that; but it needs to be noted that the original still exists and who
has it.

I haven't looked at this in Legacy 7, but I would think it would be
government records because it's issued under the authority of a state;
however, unless I can find a way to note both where the certificate is
recorded (e.g. County name, Marriage Book #, and page) plus who holds the
original, then I'll have to re-think it.

Just my long-winded thoughts on the subject,
Penny


- Original Message - 

I am stuck on this question. I have in my possession three original
marriage
certificates which appear to be issued by individual states. They give the
name of the couple, date, and signature of a public official. I have never
requested "official" documentation from the government offices.

When I try to enter this as a Master Source, I am given options of Church
Records or Government Records. I was using Gov Records. However, in
reviewing EE, I wonder if they qualify as "Privately Held Materials" and
should be cited as Artifacts.

any thoughts on this?

tx, Denise L

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Re: [LegacyUG] Strange happenings on Individual Information Screen

[GeoSci]

Jim,
   Simple enough and it does seem to work.  Too bad they just couldn't
make them a bit smaller.  I often run 3-4 programs at the same time -
each taking about 1/4 of the screen so I can see all at once.
Thanks
Keith

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keith
>
> I had that problem also.  I think that you need to enlarge the width of the
> window.  When I did that all of the icons came back.
>
> Jim Fitch
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Late in my use of Legacy 6 - I noticed the icons for pictures, notes,
> etc were not showing up on the Individual's Information screen but I
> just let it go.  Installed Legacy 7 and the icons were back (and very
> welcome).  They were there last night.  Today - GONE!  The only icon
> (after the surname box) is the temple and it is grayed out.
>
> Ideas on getting my icons back - and why would they disappear??
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Firefox instead of IE in Legacy

[JLB]

Agreed, and if I could click a button and change it I would.  Even more 
so now that Zotero has hit the airways and only works with Mozilla.  I'm 
sure there's a use for integrating that with Legacy although I'm just 
dreaming about what it might be.

JL
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's unfortunate. Even though Legacy is based on MS Access, it 
should still be possible for the designers to allow it to use the 
system default browser - which in my and many systems is Firefox.


Jeff Malka
   "Sephardic Genealogy: Discovering your Sephardic Ancestors and their
World", Avotaynu, 2002
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   "SefardSIG: Sephardic Genealogy at JewishGen" website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/sefardsig/


JLB wrote:

Legacy is pretty well built around IE, which means it's used for the
Home tab, Research Guidance, and the IGI possibly although that's not
visible.  And now the maps.  No choice unfortunately.  Search the
Internet seems to work with the chosen browser.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Using Legacy Deluxe 7 in Windows XP.

I really hate to use Internet Explorer for anything other than
Windows updates because of the security risks involved.  So, in the
Options/Launch screen I entered the path for Firefox (which is anyway
my default browser).

Yet, when I click on a Legacy News item in the Legacy Home tab, it
still opens the item in IE instead of Firefox.  Is there anyway to
change this default behavior so that Legacy will use Firefox instead
of Internet Explorer?

Jeff




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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Firefox instead of IE in Legacy

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

That's unfortunate. Even though Legacy is based on MS Access, it should 
still be possible for the designers to allow it to use the system default 
browser - which in my and many systems is Firefox.


Jeff Malka
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World", Avotaynu, 2002
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http://www.jewishgen.org/sefardsig/


JLB wrote:

Legacy is pretty well built around IE, which means it's used for the
Home tab, Research Guidance, and the IGI possibly although that's not
visible.  And now the maps.  No choice unfortunately.  Search the
Internet seems to work with the chosen browser.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Using Legacy Deluxe 7 in Windows XP.

I really hate to use Internet Explorer for anything other than
Windows updates because of the security risks involved.  So, in the
Options/Launch screen I entered the path for Firefox (which is anyway
my default browser).

Yet, when I click on a Legacy News item in the Legacy Home tab, it
still opens the item in IE instead of Firefox.  Is there anyway to
change this default behavior so that Legacy will use Firefox instead
of Internet Explorer?

Jeff




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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: More events

[ewinpa]

Hi,

Just a thought about this. Why not simply re-word the
statement?

Instead of saying "You haven't looked at all of the
events yet. Would you still like to merge the people
anyway?", 

you could day something like this 

"You haven't looked at all of the events yet. Please
scroll down to view the rest of the events. Or, would
you prefer to merge the people anyway?"


=
--- Geoff Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Your experience below has given me what I think
> could be a good idea. You,
> and others have not noticed that there were more
> fields to be filled in. In
> our Merging feature, when comparing two individuals,
> if there are more
> events than will fit on the screen, you can scroll
> to view them. If you
> attempt to merge the two people without scrolling to
> see all of the events,
> Legacy pops up a statement saying "You haven't
> looked at all of the events
> yet. Would you still like to merge the people
> anyway?"
> 
> What do you think about this idea - if you click on
> the Save button in the
> SourceWriter, but there are more fields that you
> haven't scrolled down to
> see, Legacy could pop up a statement/question about
> the additional fields.
> This may prevent us from not noticing the additional
> fields.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Firefox instead of IE in Legacy

[JLB]

Legacy is pretty well built around IE, which means it's used for the 
Home tab, Research Guidance, and the IGI possibly although that's not 
visible.  And now the maps.  No choice unfortunately.  Search the 
Internet seems to work with the chosen browser.

JL
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http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Using Legacy Deluxe 7 in Windows XP.

I really hate to use Internet Explorer for anything other than Windows 
updates because of the security risks involved.  So, in the 
Options/Launch screen I entered the path for Firefox (which is anyway 
my default browser).


Yet, when I click on a Legacy News item in the Legacy Home tab, it 
still opens the item in IE instead of Firefox.  Is there anyway to 
change this default behavior so that Legacy will use Firefox instead 
of Internet Explorer?


Jeff




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

[Kirsten Bowman]

Denise:

Personally I prefer the Artifact format in _EE_ because I know the
provenance for my items but really don't know exactly where someone else
would get the government records.  I could certainly search it out, but why
go to that trouble to leave a trail for *possibly* another researcher who
*might* want to get their own copy?  I'd rather record what I have and move
on.  If I describe the item thoroughly and accurately, that other someone
can either take my word for it or figure out where to order a copy.  After
all, what I'm  recording is what's on my original certificate.  I don't know
what might be on file with the state or county unless I order a copy,
although it should theoretically be the same.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D
Levenick
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert



I am stuck on this question. I have in my possession three original marriage
certificates which appear to be issued by individual states. They give the
name of the couple, date, and signature of a public official. I have never
requested "official" documentation from the government offices.

When I try to enter this as a Master Source, I am given options of Church
Records or Government Records. I was using Gov Records. However, in
reviewing EE, I wonder if they qualify as "Privately Held Materials" and
should be cited as Artifacts.

any thoughts on this?

tx, Denise L





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Re: [LegacyUG] Cannot get my Legacy7 customer id number recognized bu Legacy 7

[Kathy Shiell-Stokes]

Robert: Have not yet seen WM's response yet but did not manually 
enter the code. I used copy and paste from the email since I know I 
do have a habit of transposing numbers. Any other ideas?
I should also tell you that I did not install legacy7 on top of my 
legacy 6 and prefer to run both for a week or two till I get used the 
"new baby". I suspect that I may perhaps need to maybe edit the 
registry but would like to get some quasi professional advice before 
I tackle that job. I prefer to not screw things up any worse than I 
need toAt 09:03 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
If Wm's advice doesn't hit the nail on the head, could you have 
manually entered the number and entered an "l" (el) for the "1" (one)?


Let us know- we will help you to get it going.

Thank you.

Robert



Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

Received the number via email late last night. I entered it using the
Unlock Deluxe feature...but receive no notifiacation that the 
deluxe features have been unlocked. When I check it using the About 
legacy menu item, it still shows that I am using the standard 
version...and even has "Standard" entered in the customer id number 
field. I have tried uninstalling, rebooting, and reinstalling and 
even re downloading and installing from the fresh download to no avail. Help!

Kathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Don't blame GIGO on the data, we know who wasn't doing
validation and sourcing, and who was.
Rich in LA CA
--- Wynthner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It should be noted that a certain school of thought
> considers the GEDCOM to be the worst thing ever to
> befall computerizsed genealogy!
> In concept it was great but in implementation by the
> various companies (including the LDS itself) it was
> more than somewhat lacking.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:52:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated
> with newly Merged Master Sources
> 
> As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation
> problem, this is going
> to be the best thing to happen to us since the
> GEDCOM!
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cannot get my Legacy7 customer id number recognized bu Legacy 7

[Robert Carneal USA]

If Wm's advice doesn't hit the nail on the head, could you have manually 
entered the number and entered an "l" (el) for the "1" (one)?


Let us know- we will help you to get it going.

Thank you.

Robert



Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:
Received the number via email late last night. I entered it using the  
Unlock Deluxe feature...but receive no notifiacation that the deluxe 
features have been unlocked. When I check it using the About legacy 
menu item, it still shows that I am using the standard version...and 
even has "Standard" entered in the customer id number field. I have 
tried uninstalling, rebooting, and reinstalling and even re 
downloading and installing from the fresh download to no avail. Help!

Kathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

[JLB]

I agree with Steve.  I have so many documents I would end up putting 
"Privately Held" on everything if I looked at it that way.  I think the 
only thing I would consider to be "Privately Held" are things that I 
have the original, and possibly only copy of.  Movie stubs, napkins from 
notable meals, that sort of thing.

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Steve wrote:
Denise,  


The actual "Record" is held by the Government office and on
marriage/death/birth they issue an "original" certificate to who ever and
after that they issue a certified "True Copy" or in Australia you can get an
"Extract of Entry" which is an abbreviated version of the "Original" record
held by the Government Office.

Again I think it comes down to how the individual likes to record the
Certificate in Legacy, a friend said as he has the "Original" death
certificate of his parents so he records it as "Privately Held Materials".
Myself I am recording the Certificate & it's details as "Gov Records" and
the state in which it is held so that down the track if my "original"
certificate is lost then who ever is looking at my Records will know which
State & Govt Office to apply for another copy if they want it.

Steve 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Levenick
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2008 8:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

 
I am stuck on this question. I have in my possession three original marriage

certificates which appear to be issued by individual states. They give the
name of the couple, date, and signature of a public official. I have never
requested "official" documentation from the government offices.

When I try to enter this as a Master Source, I am given options of Church
Records or Government Records. I was using Gov Records. However, in
reviewing EE, I wonder if they qualify as "Privately Held Materials" and
should be cited as Artifacts.

any thoughts on this?

tx, Denise L

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Re: [LegacyUG] Strange happenings on Individual Information Screen

[BonnieAndJim69]

Keith
 
I had that problem also.  I think that you need to enlarge the width  of the 
window.  When I did that all of the icons came back.
 
Jim Fitch
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Late in my use of Legacy 6 - I noticed the icons for pictures,  notes,
etc were not showing up on the Individual's Information screen but  I
just let it go.  Installed Legacy 7 and the icons were back (and  very
welcome).  They were there last night.  Today - GONE!   The only icon
(after the surname box) is the temple and it is grayed  out.

Ideas on getting my icons back - and why would they  disappear??

Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Thomas Herson]

I do something that serves the same purpose. I highlight the master source 
I'm working on, click on Show List and then print the list so I have 
something to go on.


Tom Herson
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Penny,

Exactly what I've been doing too. Tagging everyone using the source, then
untagging as I go. I guess I left that part off. Thanks for your input.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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I have expanded on Geoff's method a bit; but only in that I want to be 
sure

I converted the citations on everybody using a given source.  So, I'm
tagging the ones who are using this source before I start, removing the 
tag

from each individual as I go.  That way the odd Gilbert-relative who is
using the same source as their distant Dunaway family kin don't get left
out.  I just have to be sure to change the detail on the clipboard when I
switch households.

I do love that darned clipboard.  Handy as a pocket on a shirt!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Allen Prunty]

The free solutions are often the best for home users.  I strongly recommend 
both of them... and I don't use Internet Exploder for anything... IE is 
notorious for weaknesses and viruses with their Active-X scripting.  Firefox 
is free... faster and updated the instant a weakness is found.  Their user 
to user support rocks too... and they have great addons... one called 
adaware that strips out all the annoying advertisements that pop up that IE 
can't.


Allen

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concerning Ancestry.com!



Hi Art,
  I am going to keep the names of AVG free anti virus and Sunbelt Firewall 
for next year!  I will be very hesitant to renew my Norton 360.  It has 
cost me a month in research time, already.  Thank you so much for setting 
me on the correct path for next year!  I appreciate it so very much! :-D


Kind Regards,

Darlene
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From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:49 AM
Yep, I had to do a complete reformat hard drive and
reinstall Windows and everything else after Norton 360
crashed my machine.

Have not had a bit of problem since doing that and
installing AVG free antivirus and Sunbelt Firewall.

Art Seddon

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of
this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

Darlene,

One last thought- what version of Norton are you using?
Norton is known to have caused some problems, it tended to
clog up both my computers which then ran slow- I have heard
that it has caused some other problems as well.  I had to go
to the Norton's web site and get a "removal"
tool to actual remove all of Norton from the computers.
Its funny, why would they have to proved a removal tool if
it wasn't causing any problems.  even if you turn it
off it may have embedded itself into your system causing
problems.  I'm not a geek just know a lot of them, and
this was their suggestion for you- actually use the removal
tool to get rid of Norton's from your computer. See if
that allows the images to be viewed.  If it does than
Norton was embedded in your system, then you will have to
purchase a different anti virus program.  Some computers
are not experiencing any problems with Norton- some are,
like both of mine.

Shelly





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Re: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

[JLB]

I don't know about your first query, but on the second:  If you put 
Legacy 6 at C:\Program Files\Legacy that's not the default location so 
installing v7 to the default location C:\ will not overwrite it.  Maybe 
have a look where v6 actually is.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Ron.  I could do that easily enough, but is it safe?  There 
51 .usr files in my Legacy 6 folder.  Would they all be compatible 
with version 7? and maybe something else would be missing.


I am considering biting the bullet and just re-installing version 7 
over version 6.  I was not aware that that was apparently the expected 
install behavior.  The default installation procedure took me to a 
default location (I think it was C:\Legacy) which is not where I have 
Legacy 6 on my PC (it's at C:\Program Files\Legacy\)


Jeff

ronald ferguson wrote:

Jeff,

Your conclusion at the end of your email is correct, had you
installed in the Legacy 6 folder all your settings would have been
retained. The other option is to copy all the .usr files from the
Legacy 6 folder to the Legacy 7.


Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:29:26 -0400

FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of Legacy 7 Deluxe
converted my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no apparent
problem. Because it warned me that the converted file would no
longer be readable by version 6 I took the precaution of first
copying all my Legacy data files to another folder labeled "Legacy 6
data files". (I had also made a full backup of my data partition to
a external drive before installing version 7 just in case of
problems )

One early thing I noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though
it converted my fdb file, it did not incorporate the options I had
modified in Legacy 6. Not a major problem and I just went through
them all to change them the way I liked them in version 6 including
the file locations, but it would have been nice if it had done that
as part of the "update". I did install version 7 in its own separate
folder (my careful nature) - in case that was the reason why version
7 did not find and adopt the previous options of version 6.
Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old version 6 might
have avoided this but then I would have had no way to go back and
compare.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization

[Allen Prunty]

As for addressing an envelope I do use the Mr. Miss and etc... however if I 
don't know the name of a person in my research for instance John Smith had a 
wife we don't know who she is I don't create an entry called Mrs. Smith.  Do 
do I put Mr. Mrs in the pre-titles... there's no need for them and they can 
complicate the search engines.  We can see that there is a marriage fact and 
put 2 and 2 together to come out with 4.


Allen

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"ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Allen,

WRT Mr, Mrs, Miss we disagree and I have given some reasons elsewhere.
Regarding the use of "Master" I still use it on the envelope when writing 
to

my grandkids.

Probably a cultural difference. It just goes to show that one rule does 
not

fit all.

Ron Ferguson

Ron,
I also use "Master" writing to any pre-teen boy, and my culture is U.S.,
althoutgh my mother was born in England and her mother in OZ.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Penny,

Exactly what I've been doing too. Tagging everyone using the source, then
untagging as I go. I guess I left that part off. Thanks for your input.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

I have expanded on Geoff's method a bit; but only in that I want to be sure 
I converted the citations on everybody using a given source.  So, I'm 
tagging the ones who are using this source before I start, removing the tag 
from each individual as I go.  That way the odd Gilbert-relative who is 
using the same source as their distant Dunaway family kin don't get left 
out.  I just have to be sure to change the detail on the clipboard when I 
switch households.

I do love that darned clipboard.  Handy as a pocket on a shirt!

Penny





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Penny]

Just in case there's some other poor stupid soul out there who's as slow on 
the uptake as I am:
When Geoff says "copy/paste" in Step 2, he means you to use Control-C to 
copy.I spent several minutes trying various combinations of 
RC and Alt-RC etc. before the obvious drifted into my dim brain.  (I'm 
comforting myself with the thought that old mousey habits do struggle to 
prevail.)


I have expanded on Geoff's method a bit; but only in that I want to be sure 
I converted the citations on everybody using a given source.  So, I'm 
tagging the ones who are using this source before I start, removing the tag 
from each individual as I go.  That way the odd Gilbert-relative who is 
using the same source as their distant Dunaway family kin don't get left 
out.  I just have to be sure to change the detail on the clipboard when I 
switch households.


I do love that darned clipboard.  Handy as a pocket on a shirt!

Penny




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Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion


As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when 
it
will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with 
the

word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have sources
that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually do
this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which 
is
not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that 
I,

too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.

First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style 
citations,

I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a 
small

black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.

2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it is
highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from 
the

Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on the
Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures. 
With
this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to 
create

the new SourceWriter source.

3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting 
the

text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training 
CD

at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.

4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the appropriate
event.

5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the 
SourceWriter

style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
replaced with the SourceWriter version.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style
source (master source and citation).

Maybe there's a better way? I haven't yet experimented with the Combine
button in the Master Source List, but from what a couple of you have
reported, this method doesn't yet do the job.

Thanks,

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RE: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

[ronald ferguson]

Yup it's safe. Because I had three versions running at one time I had to copy 
them over myself, not a problem. I always keep a spare set of the .usr files 
backed up as well - just in case..


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:06:47 -0400
>
> Thank you Ron. I could do that easily enough, but is it safe? There 51
> .usr files in my Legacy 6 folder. Would they all be compatible with version
> 7? and maybe something else would be missing.
>
> I am considering biting the bullet and just re-installing version 7 over
> version 6. I was not aware that that was apparently the expected install
> behavior. The default installation procedure took me to a default location
> (I think it was C:\Legacy) which is not where I have Legacy 6 on my PC (it's
> at C:\Program Files\Legacy\)
>
> Jeff
>
> ronald ferguson wrote:
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Your conclusion at the end of your email is correct, had you
>> installed in the Legacy 6 folder all your settings would have been
>> retained. The other option is to copy all the .usr files from the
>> Legacy 6 folder to the Legacy 7.
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> _
>>
>> New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?
>>> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:29:26 -0400
>>>
>>> FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of Legacy 7 Deluxe
>>> converted my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no apparent
>>> problem. Because it warned me that the converted file would no
>>> longer be readable by version 6 I took the precaution of first
>>> copying all my Legacy data files to another folder labeled "Legacy 6
>>> data files". (I had also made a full backup of my data partition to
>>> a external drive before installing version 7 just in case of
>>> problems )
>>>
>>> One early thing I noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though
>>> it converted my fdb file, it did not incorporate the options I had
>>> modified in Legacy 6. Not a major problem and I just went through
>>> them all to change them the way I liked them in version 6 including
>>> the file locations, but it would have been nice if it had done that
>>> as part of the "update". I did install version 7 in its own separate
>>> folder (my careful nature) - in case that was the reason why version
>>> 7 did not find and adopt the previous options of version 6.
>>> Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old version 6 might
>>> have avoided this but then I would have had no way to go back and
>>> compare.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cannot get my Legacy7 customer id number recognized bu Legacy 7

[Wm Voss]

Cut and paste the number? If so, watch that you didn't pick up an extra 
blank space at the end -- often can happen out of emails.


Wm Voss


Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:
Received the number via email late last night. I entered it using the  
Unlock Deluxe feature...but receive no notifiacation that the deluxe 
features have been unlocked. When I check it using the About legacy 
menu item, it still shows that I am using the standard version...and 
even has "Standard" entered in the customer id number field. I have 
tried uninstalling, rebooting, and reinstalling and even re 
downloading and installing from the fresh download to no avail. Help!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

[Steve]

Denise,  

The actual "Record" is held by the Government office and on
marriage/death/birth they issue an "original" certificate to who ever and
after that they issue a certified "True Copy" or in Australia you can get an
"Extract of Entry" which is an abbreviated version of the "Original" record
held by the Government Office.

Again I think it comes down to how the individual likes to record the
Certificate in Legacy, a friend said as he has the "Original" death
certificate of his parents so he records it as "Privately Held Materials".
Myself I am recording the Certificate & it's details as "Gov Records" and
the state in which it is held so that down the track if my "original"
certificate is lost then who ever is looking at my Records will know which
State & Govt Office to apply for another copy if they want it.

Steve 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Levenick
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2008 8:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

 
I am stuck on this question. I have in my possession three original marriage
certificates which appear to be issued by individual states. They give the
name of the couple, date, and signature of a public official. I have never
requested "official" documentation from the government offices.

When I try to enter this as a Master Source, I am given options of Church
Records or Government Records. I was using Gov Records. However, in
reviewing EE, I wonder if they qualify as "Privately Held Materials" and
should be cited as Artifacts.

any thoughts on this?

tx, Denise L

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[John Gregson]

George.

O.K.; guess I understand that; but I did a lot of editing on this one 
source, and also saved the results.
It would seem to me that if you use an original source, and in this 
case all of my data was imported using GEDCOM, followed by two days of 
'playing around' and saving the result, then I am using Source Writer.


I am a new user of Legacy and just starting to figure things out.
Is this what the Source Conversion tool is supposed to do?


John
Dawson Creek,BC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: "GIDavidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source conversion


This bullet is found next to a new source created by the new source 
writer
only.  Your old sources will remain the same, only the new sources 
will have
this little black bullet (shows the source was created by the source 
writer)


George

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
John

Gregson
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

Hello Geoff.

Thanks for these instructions; but I've run into a wee problem.

In Para 1), below, you state:

..."The SourceWriter style citations have a small
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column."

Well, I don't see that bullet?
I have checked the Options/source and the Source Writer is enabled.
What have I missed?


- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion


As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't 
know

when it
will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements
with the
word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have
sources
that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to
manually do
this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine,
which is
not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind
that I,
too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.

First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my
sources to
convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely
concentrated on
this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the
SourceWriter.
And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style
citations,
I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the
master
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on
the
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic
Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have
a small
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.




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[LegacyUG] Cannot get my Legacy7 customer id number recognized bu Legacy 7

[Kathy Shiell-Stokes]

Received the number via email late last night. I entered it using 
the  Unlock Deluxe feature...but receive no notifiacation that the 
deluxe features have been unlocked. When I check it using the About 
legacy menu item, it still shows that I am using the standard 
version...and even has "Standard" entered in the customer id number 
field. I have tried uninstalling, rebooting, and reinstalling and 
even re downloading and installing from the fresh download to no avail. Help!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting companion

[Tim Rosenlof]

Jeff,

Check out and Take a peek at http://www.legacycharting.com/ to check.
They are different

Happy Hunting,
Tim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:23 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting companion
> 
> 
> Version 7 Deluxe now contains a "Legacy Charting" tool.
> 
> Is this the same as the "Legacy Charting Companion" sold 
> separately at 
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LCComp.asp for $19 or are 
> they different 
> products?  
> 
> If they are different, how do they compare?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jeff 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[GIDavidson]

This bullet is found next to a new source created by the new source writer
only.  Your old sources will remain the same, only the new sources will have
this little black bullet (shows the source was created by the source writer)

George

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Gregson
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

Hello Geoff.

Thanks for these instructions; but I've run into a wee problem.

In Para 1), below, you state:

..."The SourceWriter style citations have a small
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column."

Well, I don't see that bullet?
I have checked the Options/source and the Source Writer is enabled.
What have I missed?


- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion


> As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know 
> when it
> will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements 
> with the
> word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have 
> sources
> that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to 
> manually do
> this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, 
> which is
> not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind 
> that I,
> too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.
>
> First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my 
> sources to
> convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
> citations, I would never get back to research if I solely 
> concentrated on
> this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the 
> SourceWriter.
> And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style 
> citations,
> I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the 
> master
> source and the source detail. Here is my process for now
>
> 1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on 
> the
> Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic 
> Style and
> which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have 
> a small
> black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.



John
Dawson Creek,BC
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Re: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

[Robert57P via Gmail]

If you want to keep version 6 active, you can probably catch 80% of your 
customization.  Just have both version 6 and version 7 running at the same 
time.  In each, go to the OPTIONS, CUSTOMIZATION tab and just compare them 
side by side.  Then to go each screen in each program and compare them 
side-by-side (for example, add missing columns to the INDEX and such).


Sounds like a hassle, but I did it without much problem and was pleased. 
Plus it made me really look at the options and I found a few I had NOT 
selected that I played with and adjusted.


Bob

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?


Thank you Ron.  I could do that easily enough, but is it safe?  There 51 
.usr files in my Legacy 6 folder.  Would they all be compatible with 
version 7? and maybe something else would be missing.


I am considering biting the bullet and just re-installing version 7 over 
version 6.  I was not aware that that was apparently the expected install 
behavior.  The default installation procedure took me to a default 
location (I think it was C:\Legacy) which is not where I have Legacy 6 on 
my PC (it's at C:\Program Files\Legacy\)


Jeff

ronald ferguson wrote:

Jeff,

Your conclusion at the end of your email is correct, had you
installed in the Legacy 6 folder all your settings would have been
retained. The other option is to copy all the .usr files from the
Legacy 6 folder to the Legacy 7.


Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:29:26 -0400

FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of Legacy 7 Deluxe
converted my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no apparent
problem. Because it warned me that the converted file would no
longer be readable by version 6 I took the precaution of first
copying all my Legacy data files to another folder labeled "Legacy 6
data files". (I had also made a full backup of my data partition to
a external drive before installing version 7 just in case of
problems )

One early thing I noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though
it converted my fdb file, it did not incorporate the options I had
modified in Legacy 6. Not a major problem and I just went through
them all to change them the way I liked them in version 6 including
the file locations, but it would have been nice if it had done that
as part of the "update". I did install version 7 in its own separate
folder (my careful nature) - in case that was the reason why version
7 did not find and adopt the previous options of version 6.
Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old version 6 might
have avoided this but then I would have had no way to go back and
compare.

Jeff



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[LegacyUG] run-time error '6': overflow

[Gene Young]

Has anyone else had this error message?

It occurred when I went to edit a source detail that had been entered in V.6.  The Source text is 
680 lines of text and I had about 2 lines of text in comments.  When selecting edit detail a pop up 
box appears with the above error message and upon closing the pop up the edit detail form opens with 
the top half distorted and, upon closing that, the program shuts down.Deleting either the source 
text OR the comments text eliminated the problem.


It behaves as if it has exceeded a maximum value, such as an object having an interger designation 
rather than a long, causing an overflow access.  I have deleted the comments and all is functioning, 
however there appears to be an underlying problem which needs attention.


--
Gene Y.
n2kvs
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Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Me too.  Terrific suggestion. A popup would be very helpful.

Jeff Malka
"Sephardic Genealogy: Discovering your Sephardic Ancestors and their 
World", Avotaynu, 2002
"SephardicGen Resources" website:  http://www.sephardicgen.com/
"SefardSIG: Sephardic Genealogy at JewishGen" website: 
http://www.jewishgen.org/sefardsig/

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:34 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for 
Geoff


  I think that this is a great idea.

  Jim Fitch
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Your experience below has given me what I think could be a good idea. You,
  and others have not noticed that there were more fields to be filled in. In
  our Merging feature, when comparing two individuals, if there are more
  events than will fit on the screen, you can scroll to view them. If you
  attempt to merge the two people without scrolling to see all of the events,
  Legacy pops up a statement saying "You haven't looked at all of the events
  yet. Would you still like to merge the people anyway?"

  What do you think about this idea - if you click on the Save button in the
  SourceWriter, but there are more fields that you haven't scrolled down to
  see, Legacy could pop up a statement/question about the additional fields.
  This may prevent us from not noticing the additional fields.

  Thanks,

  Geoff Rasmussen
  Millennia Corporation
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:01 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
  Geoff

  Thanks Dave!  Man, I know it's getting pretty late bacause I just
  totally missed the scroll bar on my detail screen!  Now it works
  perfectly!!  It's really too bad the fields can't all fit on one page
  because I'll bet you that more people than just me are going to
  overlook this too.  It might be worth it to try to reformat this a
  little in a future update.

  Geoff, I apologize for taking up so much of your time on this because
  I know you are very busy with other stuff right now.  I think we will
  all really appreciate the hard work you have put into this source
  writer once we get used to using the input fields.

  I still would love it if you could share with us some of the practices
  you have used in converting your sources over.  Do you update a single
  census master source for a single county and then convert all the
  detail associated with that new source, or do you work through all the
  master sources first and then work through the myriad details attached
  to them?  This is just something that I'm sure would benefit many of
  us.  You could sort of bring us along on your learning curve.

  Anyway, I can now go to sleep and dream about tomorrow's task ahead of
  me in converting at least some of my census sources.  The output looks
  good to me now!


  Gail Rich Nestor
  Smyrna, Georgia
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[LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

[D Levenick]

 
I am stuck on this question. I have in my possession three original marriage
certificates which appear to be issued by individual states. They give the
name of the couple, date, and signature of a public official. I have never
requested "official" documentation from the government offices.

When I try to enter this as a Master Source, I am given options of Church
Records or Government Records. I was using Gov Records. However, in
reviewing EE, I wonder if they qualify as "Privately Held Materials" and
should be cited as Artifacts.

any thoughts on this?

tx, Denise L

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Re: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Thank you Ron.  I could do that easily enough, but is it safe?  There 51 
.usr files in my Legacy 6 folder.  Would they all be compatible with version 
7? and maybe something else would be missing.


I am considering biting the bullet and just re-installing version 7 over 
version 6.  I was not aware that that was apparently the expected install 
behavior.  The default installation procedure took me to a default location 
(I think it was C:\Legacy) which is not where I have Legacy 6 on my PC (it's 
at C:\Program Files\Legacy\)


Jeff

ronald ferguson wrote:

Jeff,

Your conclusion at the end of your email is correct, had you
installed in the Legacy 6 folder all your settings would have been
retained. The other option is to copy all the .usr files from the
Legacy 6 folder to the Legacy 7.


Ron Ferguson

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:29:26 -0400

FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of Legacy 7 Deluxe
converted my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no apparent
problem. Because it warned me that the converted file would no
longer be readable by version 6 I took the precaution of first
copying all my Legacy data files to another folder labeled "Legacy 6
data files". (I had also made a full backup of my data partition to
a external drive before installing version 7 just in case of
problems )

One early thing I noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though
it converted my fdb file, it did not incorporate the options I had
modified in Legacy 6. Not a major problem and I just went through
them all to change them the way I liked them in version 6 including
the file locations, but it would have been nice if it had done that
as part of the "update". I did install version 7 in its own separate
folder (my careful nature) - in case that was the reason why version
7 did not find and adopt the previous options of version 6.
Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old version 6 might
have avoided this but then I would have had no way to go back and
compare.

Jeff



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[John Gregson]

Hello Geoff.

Thanks for these instructions; but I've run into a wee problem.

In Para 1), below, you state:

..."The SourceWriter style citations have a small
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column."

Well, I don't see that bullet?
I have checked the Options/source and the Source Writer is enabled.
What have I missed?


- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion


As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know 
when it
will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements 
with the
word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have 
sources
that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to 
manually do
this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, 
which is
not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind 
that I,

too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.

First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my 
sources to

convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely 
concentrated on
this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the 
SourceWriter.
And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style 
citations,
I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the 
master

source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on 
the
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic 
Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have 
a small

black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Tracy Skegg]

hmmm, I use plain text, can't see why there would be gunk happening on
my emails, curiouser and curiouser.

Early Australian newspapers use text like "announcing the birth of a
new child to Mr and Mrs John Smith", this is why I've added an AKA for
Mrs John Smith for most of my pre-1960 married females.  For my
convenience in cross checking my file.

One of the reasons I asked about deed poll information and the birth
certificate is also the sourcing issue - using the new source writer
format, my birth certificate is going to show two names.  I'll now
have Mills pdf version of Evidence Explained, mayhap it'll give some
example I could follow, other wise, I'll have to improvise with things
that don't fit the norm.  I remember someone awhile ago saying that
they listed all their events sentencing and sourcing information that
was different.  I've been trying to follow that to help me keep track
of what I've done.
Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Tracy Skegg]

Just a quick note to Ron - when I finished the deed poll and it got
formalised. I had to surrender my birth certificate and apply for the
new one, looking back it seems funny.  Pity I never thought back then
of my later love for genealogy, I never kept copies of the old birth
certificate.  But my new one has the same registration, just a note at
the side stating the deed poll name change.  I guess I'll add notes in
my family file to explain the differences.
Cheers
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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Sherry/Support]

Can we please put an end to this off-topic thread? I've been getting
complaints The list is more than busy enough with just Legacy issues.


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Re: [LegacyUG] coupons

[Jenny M Benson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Aha.  I guess I misunderstood based on another thread I was reading in 
a message from Jenny M Benson dated June 15, 2008 7:19 AM in which she 
wrote:


"There is not yet available the provision for *automatically* 
converting

your old Sources to the new SourceWriter style, but I gather it is
referred to in the Manual and will be coming in due course".
Profuse apologies if I caused confusion.  I confess I haven't actually 
looked at the manual (which I have not got!) concerning the Source 
Template Conversion Tool and was just assuming that it converted 
old-style Sources to new.  To me, any sort of "tool" would not involve 
simply copying stuff from one field to another, therefore I used the 
word "automatically."


Perhaps I have got hold of the wrong end of the stick and this much 
talked of Tool does something entirely different.

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Fwd: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[BonnieAndJim69]

I think that this is a great idea.
 
Jim Fitch
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Your experience below has given me what I think could be a good idea.  You,
and others have not noticed that there were more fields to be filled in.  In
our Merging feature, when comparing two individuals, if there are  more
events than will fit on the screen, you can scroll to view them. If  you
attempt to merge the two people without scrolling to see all of the  events,
Legacy pops up a statement saying "You haven't looked at all of the  events
yet. Would you still like to merge the people anyway?"

What do  you think about this idea - if you click on the Save button in  the
SourceWriter, but there are more fields that you haven't scrolled down  to
see, Legacy could pop up a statement/question about the additional  fields.
This may prevent us from not noticing the additional  fields.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia  Corporation
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-Original  Message-
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:01 PM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed  date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Thanks Dave!  Man,  I know it's getting pretty late bacause I just
totally missed the scroll bar  on my detail screen!  Now it works
perfectly!!  It's really too bad  the fields can't all fit on one page
because I'll bet you that more people  than just me are going to
overlook this too.  It might be worth it to  try to reformat this a
little in a future update.

Geoff, I apologize  for taking up so much of your time on this because
I know you are very busy  with other stuff right now.  I think we will
all really appreciate the  hard work you have put into this source
writer once we get used to using the  input fields.

I still would love it if you could share with us some of  the practices
you have used in converting your sources over.  Do you  update a single
census master source for a single county and then convert all  the
detail associated with that new source, or do you work through all  the
master sources first and then work through the myriad details  attached
to them?  This is just something that I'm sure would benefit  many of
us.  You could sort of bring us along on your learning  curve.

Anyway, I can now go to sleep and dream about tomorrow's task  ahead of
me in converting at least some of my census sources.  The  output looks
good to me now!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Wynthner]

It should be noted that a certain school of thought considers the GEDCOM to be 
the worst thing ever to befall computerizsed genealogy!
In concept it was great but in implementation by the various companies 
(including the LDS itself) it was more than somewhat lacking.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:52:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master 
Sources

As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going
to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Dede Holden]

Gail and Janis,

I have done the same thing.  I took a source that had lots of
different source details for several generations.  I created a new
Master Source using the Source Writer.  I combined the two.  My
details stayed exactly where they were supposed to!  I did not have to
re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled.  Of course, I did a
backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source
details that I spent DAYS entering.

As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going
to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM!

Dede Holden

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> This is exactly what happened to me when I merged two census sources.
>
> Any thoughts, Geoff?
>
> Janis Walker Gilmore
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:48 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master
> Sources
>
> I decided to start a new topic here for this question.  I created a
> new master source for a census.  Then I merged an existing master
> source used by 5 individuals into the new master source.  The master
> source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed
> attached to the new master.
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

[ronald ferguson]

Jeff,

Your conclusion at the end of your email is correct, had you installed in the 
Legacy 6 folder all your settings would have been retained. The other option is 
to copy all the .usr files from the Legacy 6 folder to the Legacy 7.


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:29:26 -0400
>
> FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of Legacy 7 Deluxe converted
> my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no apparent problem. Because it
> warned me that the converted file would no longer be readable by version 6 I
> took the precaution of first copying all my Legacy data files to another
> folder labeled "Legacy 6 data files". (I had also made a full backup of my
> data partition to a external drive before installing version 7 just in case
> of problems )
>
> One early thing I noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though it
> converted my fdb file, it did not incorporate the options I had modified in
> Legacy 6. Not a major problem and I just went through them all to change
> them the way I liked them in version 6 including the file locations, but it
> would have been nice if it had done that as part of the "update". I did
> install version 7 in its own separate folder (my careful nature) - in case
> that was the reason why version 7 did not find and adopt the previous
> options of version 6. Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old
> version 6 might have avoided this but then I would have had no way to go
> back and compare.
>
> Jeff
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Geoff Rasmussen]

This is a kink in the reporting, thanks to this list, that we have
identified. Dave B. is working on a solution.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

Geoff,

When you follow this procedure, do your reports generate the results
you want?  Here is the problem I have had with the new Source Writer.
The Master Source Text prints on every citation, not just the first
time the source is cited.  I have chosen the correct option in all the
appropriate places, but to no avail.  The Source Detail does not print
at all in subsequent citations.  I have submitted this as a bug
report.  I thought the problem was related to the fact that I used the
Combine button, but I get the same problem with a brand new source
entered using the Source Writer.  I also tried a new source going back
to the Basic Source screen and the results in the report were exactly
what I wanted, so I decided the problem must be in the new Source
Writer.

I do love the new templates.  I'm waiting patiently for the kinks to
be ironed out.

Dede Holden

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Barb Krecklow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Geoff, this is very helpful.
>
> Barb Krecklow
>
> - Original Message - From: "Geoff Rasmussen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion
>
>
>> As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when
>> it
>> will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with
>> the
>> word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have
sources
>> that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually
do
>> this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which
>> is
>> not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that
>> I,
>> too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.
>>
>> First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
>> convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
>> citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
>> this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
>> And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style
>> citations,
>> I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
>> source and the source detail. Here is my process for now
>>
>> 1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
>> Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
>> which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a
>> small
>> black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.
>>
>> 2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it
is
>> highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from
>> the
>> Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on
the
>> Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures.
>> With
>> this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to
>> create
>> the new SourceWriter source.
>>
>> 3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
>> source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting
>> the
>> text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
>> the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
>> it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training
>> CD
>> at
>>
>>
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
>> teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.
>>
>> 4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
>> bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
>> Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the
appropriate
>> event.
>>
>> 5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the
>> SourceWriter
>> style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
>> Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
>> replaced with the SourceWriter version.
>>
>> Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style
>> source (master source and citation).
>>
>> Maybe there's a better way? I haven't yet experimented with the Combine
>> button in the Master Source List, but from what a couple of you have
>> reported, this method doesn't yet do the job.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Geoff Rasmussen
>> Millennia Corporation
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.as

Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Dede Holden]

Geoff,

When you follow this procedure, do your reports generate the results
you want?  Here is the problem I have had with the new Source Writer.
The Master Source Text prints on every citation, not just the first
time the source is cited.  I have chosen the correct option in all the
appropriate places, but to no avail.  The Source Detail does not print
at all in subsequent citations.  I have submitted this as a bug
report.  I thought the problem was related to the fact that I used the
Combine button, but I get the same problem with a brand new source
entered using the Source Writer.  I also tried a new source going back
to the Basic Source screen and the results in the report were exactly
what I wanted, so I decided the problem must be in the new Source
Writer.

I do love the new templates.  I'm waiting patiently for the kinks to
be ironed out.

Dede Holden

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Barb Krecklow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Geoff, this is very helpful.
>
> Barb Krecklow
>
> - Original Message - From: "Geoff Rasmussen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion
>
>
>> As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when
>> it
>> will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with
>> the
>> word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have sources
>> that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually do
>> this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which
>> is
>> not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that
>> I,
>> too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.
>>
>> First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
>> convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
>> citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
>> this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
>> And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style
>> citations,
>> I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
>> source and the source detail. Here is my process for now
>>
>> 1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
>> Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
>> which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a
>> small
>> black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.
>>
>> 2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it is
>> highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from
>> the
>> Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on the
>> Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures.
>> With
>> this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to
>> create
>> the new SourceWriter source.
>>
>> 3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
>> source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting
>> the
>> text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
>> the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
>> it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training
>> CD
>> at
>>
>> http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
>> teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.
>>
>> 4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
>> bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
>> Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the appropriate
>> event.
>>
>> 5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the
>> SourceWriter
>> style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
>> Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
>> replaced with the SourceWriter version.
>>
>> Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style
>> source (master source and citation).
>>
>> Maybe there's a better way? I haven't yet experimented with the Combine
>> button in the Master Source List, but from what a couple of you have
>> reported, this method doesn't yet do the job.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Geoff Rasmussen
>> Millennia Corporation
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[LegacyUG] reposting v7 deluxe ? to make 'Show entire source' option stick ?

[J B Coats]

Re posting...  with the flurry of messages earlier, it may have been missed 
for a reply



From the  Individual Info... Screen to

Add or Edit Source Citation at bottom of screen is Output tab

?? Question is  =  How to make the 'Show Entire Source' selection stick ??

as after this screen is closed the selection always returns to
'Source using Print Options'

I am using the Basic Source System only.

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[LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of Legacy 7 Deluxe converted 
my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no apparent problem.  Because it 
warned me that the converted file would no longer be readable by version 6 I 
took the precaution of first copying all my Legacy data files to another 
folder labeled "Legacy 6 data files". (I had also made a full backup of my 
data partition to a external drive before installing version 7 just in case 
of problems )


One early thing I noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though it 
converted my fdb file, it did not incorporate the options I had modified in 
Legacy 6.  Not a major problem and I just went through them all to change 
them the way I liked them in version 6 including the file locations, but it 
would have been nice if it had done that as part of the "update".  I did 
install version 7 in its own separate folder (my careful nature) - in case 
that was the reason why version 7 did not find and adopt the previous 
options of version 6. Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old 
version 6 might have avoided this but then I would have had no way to go 
back and compare.


Jeff 






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RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization

[ronald ferguson]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:14:12 -0700
>
> "ronald ferguson"  wrote:
>
> Allen,
>
> WRT Mr, Mrs, Miss we disagree and I have given some reasons elsewhere.
> Regarding the use of "Master" I still use it on the envelope when writing to
> my grandkids.
>
> Probably a cultural difference. It just goes to show that one rule does not
> fit all.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> Ron,
> I also use "Master" writing to any pre-teen boy, and my culture is U.S.,
> althoutgh my mother was born in England and her mother in OZ.
>
> Art Seddon
>


Well Art, at least two of us are cultured then ;-)



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[LegacyUG] Strange happenings on Individual Information Screen

[GeoSci]

Late in my use of Legacy 6 - I noticed the icons for pictures, notes,
etc were not showing up on the Individual's Information screen but I
just let it go.  Installed Legacy 7 and the icons were back (and very
welcome).  They were there last night.  Today - GONE!  The only icon
(after the surname box) is the temple and it is grayed out.

Ideas on getting my icons back - and why would they disappear??

Thanks
Keith

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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Darlene & Don Hicks]

Hi Art,
   I love my Dell Desktop, as well.  I did have a Dell laptop in the Inspiron 
series, but it overheated and finally crashed.  This desktop is so much more 
reliable, for me! :)

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~ C.S. 
Lewis, 1898-1963 



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:09 PM
> Hi Darlene,
> That 8 year old computer is a Dell, and the Internet
> Exporer that I run is 
> that terrible Version 7 that so many complain about.
> 
> Art
> 
> From: "Darlene & Don Hicks"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
>Yes, that is what I had, on my Dell, also!  If your
> computer is 8 yrs. 
> old and still running good, you are a very lucky person. 
> My Dell is less 
> then two years old, and I just got through buying their
> protective package 
> for a wopping $270.  Nothing they did helped me with
> ancestry.com.  Oh well, 
> now I have three more call times, I can use before my year
> is up!  They 
> worked for over 10 hours, with me, but nothing solved the
> problem.  Norton 
> 360 is the problem, as I already stated in another e-mail!
>Thanks for your suggestions and willingness to help me
> solve the problem. 
> There are some mighty wonderful people on this list!  :-D
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Darlene
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new
> dream."   ~ C.S. 
> Lewis, 1898-1963
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Art Seddon
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm using IE, XP SP3 and every update MS has put out on
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> as yet have not had any of the described problems. Works
> just fine and this 
> is on an 8 year old computer.
> 
> Oh yeh, I've added a couple gigs of memory.
> 
> Art Seddon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Barb Krecklow]

Thanks Geoff, this is very helpful.

Barb Krecklow

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion


As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when 
it
will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with 
the

word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have sources
that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually do
this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which 
is
not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that 
I,

too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.

First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style 
citations,

I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a 
small

black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.

2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it is
highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from 
the

Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on the
Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures. 
With
this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to 
create

the new SourceWriter source.

3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting 
the

text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training 
CD

at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.

4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the appropriate
event.

5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the 
SourceWriter

style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
replaced with the SourceWriter version.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style
source (master source and citation).

Maybe there's a better way? I haven't yet experimented with the Combine
button in the Master Source List, but from what a couple of you have
reported, this method doesn't yet do the job.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] coupons

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Aha.  I guess I misunderstood based on another thread I was reading in a 
message from Jenny M Benson dated June 15, 2008 7:19 AM in which she wrote:


"There is not yet available the provision for *automatically* converting
your old Sources to the new SourceWriter style, but I gather it is
referred to in the Manual and will be coming in due course".

Just trying to anticipate problems in converting from version 6 to version 
7.


Jeff

Bert van Kootwijk wrote:

Who says that the Source template Conversion Tool automates the
conversion?
In the handbook you can read, pg 72,

The process cannot be automated because  basicstyle citations are not
broken down into the individual pieces of information that are need
to fill in the templates. So you will need to copy bits of
information from the basis citation to the template fields in order
to make the conversion.

Bert


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] coupons



I agree.  I just bought version 7 Deluxe. Hope the data moves into
it with no "problems".

Might be good to have a list of things to watch out for. Noticed
from the list that it might for instance be better to wait on
transferring the old sources to the new SourceWriter style because
the automatic conversion feature is not yet available.  Knowing
potential problems ahead of time might save a lot of unnecessary
effort. :-) Jeff

JLB wrote:

There are sometimes coupons for special deals.  I don't think it's
an ongoing thing all the time.  I haven't heard of any lately, but
Legacy is a good deal all year round.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am considering purchasing one of the Legacy 7 packages and in
doing so noticed a field for "coupons".  Are there discount
coupons for Legacy software and where does one find them?

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[LegacyUG] V 7 Possible buglet - adding sources to Name Field

[Judy]

Has anyone else noticed that when adding a source to the "Name" field, the 
actual name of the individual is missing in the bar at the top of the screen 
and replaced only with the word "Name".  This is not the case when adding a 
source to an AKA Name field.  I do like to refer up to the top of the screen 
to note the person I am sourcing.


I also miss having the ability to add more than one source at a time!!  I 
batch source from census files frequently.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization

[Art Seddon]

"ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Allen,

WRT Mr, Mrs, Miss we disagree and I have given some reasons elsewhere. 
Regarding the use of "Master" I still use it on the envelope when writing to 
my grandkids.

Probably a cultural difference. It just goes to show that one rule does not 
fit all.

Ron Ferguson

Ron,
I also use "Master" writing to any pre-teen boy, and my culture is U.S., 
althoutgh my mother was born in England and her mother in OZ.

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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Ron Bernier]

Jenny,

Since you are willing to admit you are not perfect, you only need to
write the statement "I must be more perfect" 14 times - and it doesn't
have to be your best handwriting.  :>)


On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:03:13 +0100, "Jenny M Benson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> Ron Bernier wrote
> >Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an arrow 
> >pointing to the the scroll bar.
> 
> Funnily enough, it was because of Geoff's big bright red arrow pointing 
> to it that I spotted the scroll bar!
> 
> >People really just need to pay attention to the environment they are 
> >working in.
> 
> Yes, of course we do.  The trouble is that a lot of us people are only 
> human and we make mistakes.
> 
> I will now go away and write out one hundred times - in my best 
> handwriting - "I must be more perfect." :-)
> -- 
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> 
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[LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Geoff Rasmussen]

As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when it
will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with the
word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have sources
that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually do
this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which is
not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that I,
too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.

First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style citations,
I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a small
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.

2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it is
highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from the
Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on the
Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures. With
this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to create
the new SourceWriter source.

3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting the
text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training CD
at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.

4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the appropriate
event.

5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the SourceWriter
style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
replaced with the SourceWriter version.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style
source (master source and citation).

Maybe there's a better way? I haven't yet experimented with the Combine
button in the Master Source List, but from what a couple of you have
reported, this method doesn't yet do the job.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com






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[LegacyUG] Subsequent Source Citation Printing Instead of Full Citation (Version 7)

[Connie Sheets]

My apologies if this has been asked and previously answered; I checked the
archives but they are so massive I may have missed it.

I'm a long time Legacy user who has just upgraded to Version 7.  I used the
Source Writer to create a citation to the 1850 census, then went to print-out a
Family Group Sheet.

The 1850 census is the first citation of several; citation #1 is printing out
in the subsequent citation format instead of the full citation format.

I've fiddled with my Source settings on both the report options menu and the
customize menu and it seems to make no difference.

Is this a bug, or is there something I'm missing?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Art Seddon]

Hi Darlene,
That 8 year old computer is a Dell, and the Internet Exporer that I run is 
that terrible Version 7 that so many complain about.

Art

From: "Darlene & Don Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


   Yes, that is what I had, on my Dell, also!  If your computer is 8 yrs. 
old and still running good, you are a very lucky person.  My Dell is less 
then two years old, and I just got through buying their protective package 
for a wopping $270.  Nothing they did helped me with ancestry.com.  Oh well, 
now I have three more call times, I can use before my year is up!  They 
worked for over 10 hours, with me, but nothing solved the problem.  Norton 
360 is the problem, as I already stated in another e-mail!
   Thanks for your suggestions and willingness to help me solve the problem. 
There are some mighty wonderful people on this list!  :-D

Kind Regards,

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~ C.S. 
Lewis, 1898-1963



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm using IE, XP SP3 and every update MS has put out on automatic update and 
as yet have not had any of the described problems. Works just fine and this 
is on an 8 year old computer.

Oh yeh, I've added a couple gigs of memory.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Gail,

I asked Dave about this last night and this was his response:

"Well, it makes a body think...  I don't think we have even looked at the
combine master sources code on the master source list.  If someone chooses
an old master source (with various detail citations using it) and then
combines it with a new SourceWriter master source, the citations would point
to the new master source but the old detail fields wouldn't be moved to the
new detail fields.  I don't even know how we would do that.  We wouldn't
know where to put the info.  Looks like we need a conversion tool... So,
yes, right now the new detail fields would be blank... with no way to show
the old detail info."

I'll respond in my next email on how I'm converting my sources

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:48 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master
Sources

I decided to start a new topic here for this question.  I created a
new master source for a census.  Then I merged an existing master
source used by 5 individuals into the new master source.  The master
source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed
attached to the new master.

The problem is that, while I can see the beginning of the "old" detail
on the assigned sources screen, I cannot access it to update it.  When
I click "Edit Detail," the new Source Detail template pops up with
empty fields.  I need a way to get to my old data to show up somewhere
so that I can use it to update the new fields.

Am I missing something else obvious?  Geoff, is this how you are
merging sources or are you creating all the new masters with out
merging the old ones in and then re-creating and attaching all the
detail separately?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
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RE: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Source Citation Printing Instead of Full Citation (Version 7)

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dave B. has confirmed that this is something he needs to take a look at.
Currently, what happens is that the first time the master source is used, it
will use the Footnote/Endnote variation. The second time the master source
is used, even if the detail is different this time, it will only use the
subsequent citation format. So, you're not missing something. Rather, Dave
is working on tweaking this so it works as would be expected.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Connie
Sheets
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:20 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Source Citation Printing Instead of Full
Citation (Version 7)

My apologies if this has been asked and previously answered; I checked the
archives but they are so massive I may have missed it.

I'm a long time Legacy user who has just upgraded to Version 7.  I used the
Source Writer to create a citation to the 1850 census, then went to
print-out a
Family Group Sheet.

The 1850 census is the first citation of several; citation #1 is printing
out
in the subsequent citation format instead of the full citation format.

I've fiddled with my Source settings on both the report options menu and the
customize menu and it seems to make no difference.

Is this a bug, or is there something I'm missing?

Connie Sheets





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Re: [LegacyUG] coupons

[Bert van Kootwijk]

Who says that the Source template Conversion Tool automates the conversion?

In the handbook you can read, pg 72,

The process cannot be automated because  basicstyle citations are not broken 
down into the individual pieces of information that are need to fill in the 
templates. So you will need to copy bits of information from the basis 
citation to the template fields in order to make the conversion.



Bert


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] coupons


I agree.  I just bought version 7 Deluxe. Hope the data moves into it with 
no "problems".


Might be good to have a list of things to watch out for. Noticed from the 
list that it might for instance be better to wait on transferring the old 
sources to the new SourceWriter style because the automatic conversion 
feature is not yet available.  Knowing potential problems ahead of time 
might save a lot of unnecessary effort. :-)


Jeff

JLB wrote:

There are sometimes coupons for special deals.  I don't think it's an
ongoing thing all the time.  I haven't heard of any lately, but Legacy
is a good deal all year round.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am considering purchasing one of the Legacy 7 packages and in doing
so noticed a field for "coupons".  Are there discount coupons for
Legacy software and where does one find them?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[Carl Cox]

< around anything I have estimated. 
Legacy handles them well, although I understand that they may have an impact on 
some Gedcom usage and online repositories.>>

And I use them around the statement I am replying to. :-)
Some sites use computer generated places from close relatives when they are 
left blank by the submitter, and the carats < > are put around by the computer. 
As no reasoning is attached to such places, they are often very wrong. When I 
see such places I try to delete them, as I recognize that a blank is probably 
better than a computer generated place. OTOH I really like "of" as a location 
that the person was living at some time in their life.
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Re: [LegacyUG] coupons

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I agree.  I just bought version 7 Deluxe. Hope the data moves into it with 
no "problems".


Might be good to have a list of things to watch out for. Noticed from the 
list that it might for instance be better to wait on transferring the old 
sources to the new SourceWriter style because the automatic conversion 
feature is not yet available.  Knowing potential problems ahead of time 
might save a lot of unnecessary effort. :-)


Jeff

JLB wrote:

There are sometimes coupons for special deals.  I don't think it's an
ongoing thing all the time.  I haven't heard of any lately, but Legacy
is a good deal all year round.
JL
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am considering purchasing one of the Legacy 7 packages and in doing
so noticed a field for "coupons".  Are there discount coupons for
Legacy software and where does one find them?

Jeff




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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Alfred F. Schwilk]

Ron:
I agree with you about the fact that scroll bars are everywhere. It 
appears to me that about 80% to 90%
of the hidden information in a window with scroll bars is for 
information only. The rest require data
entry in the hidden area of the windows. An indicator to the effect that 
the user may need to enter
this hidden data would be helpful. Scroll bars are glanced over all the 
time.

Fred
San Jose, California

Ron Bernier wrote:

Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an arrow
pointing to the the scroll bar.  I'm curious, have you sent this same
request to the myriad of other programs that have a scroll bar that is
the same color as the default window?  The scroll bar in the source
writer is just as noticeble and obvious as the scroll bar in any other
window that has a scroll bar.  People really just need to pay attention
to the environment they are working in.



Alfred F. Schwilk wrote
  
How about making the scroll bar RED and changing it back to the default 
color after scrolling.



This *must* be a good idea because I was going to suggest a change of
colour to the scroll bar also!
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[LegacyUG] turnover lines in Event Notes in Reports

[Elaine Shuman]

Using v 7, I have noticed that the lines in my events notes are
turning over sooner than I would like in various reports (indivual,
family group). Is there a setting I can change?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[MJMethod]

I am a big proponent of such "estimates", for dates and locations. 
The examples you give are good and I or others could provide innumerable  
other examples.
 
I find them to be a HUGE value when looking at the screens or reports, when  
sending or discussing families with people I may be interviewing, and 
especially  when doing searches. With the new mapping in V.7, it adds another  
dimension.
 
They won't suit everyone, perhaps especially those who do a lot of website  
work or publishing trees to online repositories. 
 
For dates, using "abt", "circa", "est", "bef", "aft" or other  qualifiers is 
easily understood by the reader. Many sources, even well  documented, can 
frequently only get you close, e.g., from a census you may  [probably] know 
that 
someone was born in a specific year but even that may be a  calculation. 
 
For Locaions: I am a big user of carats < > around anything I have  
estimated. Legacy handles them well, although I understand that they may have 
an  
impact on some Gedcom usage and online repositories.
 

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 6/18/2008 3:32:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Group:

Now that I have Legacy7 up and running, I feel a  compulsion to do some file
cleanup but am in a bit of a quandry.  May  I have some opinions on whether
or not to add estimated locations?  I  know about various methods for *how*
to do it, but just can't decide  *whether* to do it.  If I know that, for
example, ancestors were born  before 1620 and lived in Massachusetts, it's a
pretty safe bet that they  were born in England.  By the same token, people
who were born and  died in what is now Ontario in the early 1800's were
probably married  there.  Is anything gained by showing England or Canada
(Upper/Lower,  West/East) as *probable* locations or is there a good reason
for just  leaving it blank?  Thoughts  please.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[Tim Willis]

Especially when considering someone who lived in Massachusetts, but born before 
1620, I wouldn't be sure if they came from England or maybe Holland?  Perhaps 
it would depend on the last name, but even then, the Pilgrims lived in Holland 
before they came to Mass., so it is possible they were born there.. A small 
detail, yes, but it would make me want to qualify it with a "probable".  Food 
for thought..
Tim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:18:53 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

Group:

Now that I have Legacy7 up and running, I feel a compulsion to do some file
cleanup but am in a bit of a quandry.  May I have some opinions on whether
or not to add estimated locations?  I know about various methods for *how*
to do it, but just can't decide *whether* to do it.  If I know that, for
example, ancestors were born before 1620 and lived in Massachusetts, it's a
pretty safe bet that they were born in England.  By the same token, people
who were born and died in what is now Ontario in the early 1800's were
probably married there.  Is anything gained by showing England or Canada
(Upper/Lower, West/East) as *probable* locations or is there a good reason
for just leaving it blank?  Thoughts please.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Janis Gilmore]

Gail,

This is exactly what happened to me when I merged two census sources.

Any thoughts, Geoff?

Janis Walker Gilmore

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master
Sources

I decided to start a new topic here for this question.  I created a
new master source for a census.  Then I merged an existing master
source used by 5 individuals into the new master source.  The master
source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Kris]

Jenny M Benson wrote:


Ron Bernier wrote
Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an 
arrow pointing to the the scroll bar.


Funnily enough, it was because of Geoff's big bright red arrow pointing 
to it that I spotted the scroll bar!


It's always easy to find something after you realize it's there.  ;-)

People really just need to pay attention to the environment they are 
working in.


Yes, of course we do.  The trouble is that a lot of us people are only 
human and we make mistakes.


I will now go away and write out one hundred times - in my best 
handwriting - "I must be more perfect." :-)


And please be quick about it.  You know, this whole thing would go so 
much more smoothly if humans weren't involved.


Kris
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RE: [LegacyUG] Missing Multimedia Files

[GIDavidson]

Ron,

Thanks for the time and reply.

I used the same report, customize/options/locations/test multimedia paths.

The missing photos for people did give a RIN #, the missing photos for
source detail citation just reads:  Source Detail Citation (5).jpg.  
I was able to find and correct the missing people photos, however, can't
figure out and find the source photos.  

No problem, there weren't that many and I just used the option to delete the
paths for the missing source photos to clean up the problem.

George


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ferguson
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Missing Multimedia Files


George,

Which report are you referring to and where is it? I ask because your format
seems to be different to mine. I went to Customise>Options>Locations>Test
multimedia Paths and the log format is:

C:\Documents and Settings\Ron Ferguson\My
Documents\legacypicts\ww1grda0001.bmp
Event Picture: R.A.O.B.: William Arthur Ferguson [19] where the 19 refers to
the RIN. Your  (63) looks more like a file name?


Ron Ferguson

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing Multimedia Files
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:02:21 -0700
>
> Hi group,
>
> Legacy V7 created a list of missing multimedia files:
>
> Picture: Marriage: Source Detail: Picture: Marriage: Source Detail
Citation
> (63).jpg
>
> Question: How do I find citation #63?
>
> I have about 20 or 30 different citation pictures that are missing with no
> names just a citation number as shown above.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George in AZ
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RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[ronald ferguson]

Tracy,

My daughter changed her maiden name by deed poll when she had her first child 
so that all the family would have the same surname. I have entered this change 
as an AKA.

There is no chance in England of the name being changed on the birth 
certificate, as except under very, very special circumstances (not even 
adoption) this is not allowed.


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> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:30:50 +1000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)
>
> Some of the emails here have discussed change of names. I've changed
> my name through deed poll and now I use my husband's surname. I've
> seen other family files where the surname is listed as "Jones Now
> Smith" or "Jones/Smith". Others have used birth names and add AKAs
> for all the names, as well as a note.
>
> I have AKAs for my birth name, married name and I use my deed poll
> name as my maiden name, and I have a deed poll event. Some of my
> school records show my stepfather's surname, so I've also got an AKA
> for that surname too. My little girl will know all my name variations
> - but it could cause some confusion for others looking at my names and
> trying to verify all the different names as attached to me. In my home
> state my birth certificate has been amended to show both birth and
> deed poll names. How do others show these changes?
>
> Cheers
> Tracy

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RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[music-line]

Hi Tracy/ Jan, Jenny etc.

Thank you all for your brilliant responses.

It seems to me that everyone uses a slightly different system, each of which
is valid, non of which are perfect.  I've no idea how to respond to some of
the scenarios, and because every case is different, it could be that your
exact scenario may not be duplicated elsewhere.  I continue to read all the
posts with interest.  It does seem to me that, for the occasional exception
it would be worth sticking to an overall plan and just customizing the
specific report.

By the way, I can't think how the gunk got attached to the bottom of Tracy's
response (I do always use plain text), please delete it from all other
responses - it was a completely different email in my inbox.  Not only with
Plaxo will I never miss a birthday again, but it seems that half of the
L.U.G. might be sending Hilary Brewster a birthday card - apart from me, who
will probably be late as usual!  To add fuel on the fire, I got Tracy's
email twice.

Best wishes

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Sent: 18 June 2008 13:31
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)


Some of the emails here have discussed change of names.  I've changed
my name through deed poll and now I use my husband's surname.  I've
seen other family files where the surname is listed as "Jones Now
Smith" or "Jones/Smith".  Others have used birth names and add AKAs
for all the names, as well as a note.

I have AKAs for my birth name, married name and I use my deed poll
name as my maiden name, and I have a deed poll event. Some of my
school records show my stepfather's surname, so I've also got an AKA
for that surname too.  My little girl will know all my name variations
- but it could cause some confusion for others looking at my names and
trying to verify all the different names as attached to me. In my home
state my birth certificate has been amended to show both birth and
deed poll names.  How do others show these changes?

Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Al Mallory]

May be they could have a "do not show this message again" checkbox in
the popup window for those that do not want to scroll or see it every
time.

-- 
Al Mallory
Whitby, Ontario


On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ron Bernier wrote
>>
>> Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an arrow
>> pointing to the the scroll bar.
>
> Funnily enough, it was because of Geoff's big bright red arrow pointing to
> it that I spotted the scroll bar!
>
>> People really just need to pay attention to the environment they are
>> working in.
>
> Yes, of course we do.  The trouble is that a lot of us people are only human
> and we make mistakes.
>
> I will now go away and write out one hundred times - in my best handwriting
> - "I must be more perfect." :-)
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy V7 Australian/NZ Version

[Tracy Skegg]

rats, I could have wait - oh impatient me. :)  I'll just get them in a
different way.
Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Tracy Skegg]

Some of the emails here have discussed change of names.  I've changed
my name through deed poll and now I use my husband's surname.  I've
seen other family files where the surname is listed as "Jones Now
Smith" or "Jones/Smith".  Others have used birth names and add AKAs
for all the names, as well as a note.

I have AKAs for my birth name, married name and I use my deed poll
name as my maiden name, and I have a deed poll event. Some of my
school records show my stepfather's surname, so I've also got an AKA
for that surname too.  My little girl will know all my name variations
- but it could cause some confusion for others looking at my names and
trying to verify all the different names as attached to me. In my home
state my birth certificate has been amended to show both birth and
deed poll names.  How do others show these changes?

Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy V7 Australian/NZ Version

[Jenny M Benson]

Colin Liddell wrote

The following is the advert on Gould's website.

Legacy 7 is Released
It's been a long time coming, but Legacy 7 has finally been released. 
We have received stock of both the program and the upgrade, and are 
taking orders for the Australia/New Zealand version of it which is due 
for release in July.

Have I missed something?


I don't understand this as Legacy's website makes no mention of an A/NZ 
specific version, only that the English version includes 4 language 
options, which include Australian English.


See

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/InternationalLegacyVersions.asp

I have a vague idea that somewhere along the installation process I had 
to select which language version I wanted to use, but I could be quite 
wrong about that.


I suggest you take it up with Support.
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Steve]

Well - sorry for not spotting that little old scroll bar either, must need
new glasses. ;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2008 9:39 PM
To: Legacy Family Tree
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an arrow
pointing to the the scroll bar.  I'm curious, have you sent this same
request to the myriad of other programs that have a scroll bar that is
the same color as the default window?  The scroll bar in the source
writer is just as noticeble and obvious as the scroll bar in any other
window that has a scroll bar.  People really just need to pay attention
to the environment they are working in.



Alfred F. Schwilk wrote
>How about making the scroll bar RED and changing it back to the default 
>color after scrolling.

This *must* be a good idea because I was going to suggest a change of
colour to the scroll bar also!
--
Jenny M Benson

--
Regards, 
Ron Bernier
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RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Steve]

You would think our ancestors could have been more considerate when
selecting names and thought of us poor souls who would one day have to work
out how to enter their names into Legacy.  *grin*

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)


Jan Roberts wrote
>my late first husband was born (say) John George SMITH, but by the time 
>I met him he had legally changed his name to Fred James BROWN.  I 
>became Mrs Jan BROWN when we married. Our daughter is Mary BROWN.  So, 
>although his parents are listed as Bill SMITH and Jane BROWN (he 
>actually took his mother's maiden name when he changed) and the 
>children from his first marriage carry the name SMITH in my database I 
>have recorded John George SMITH as an AKA - and I used an Event to 
>describe the reason and date for the name change.  Otherwise my 
>daughter would show as Mary SMITH, which she has never been.

You are not correct in your last sentence!

If you wish to show your husband and children all with the surname 
Brown, that's fine, and you'd do just as you have done. However, if you 
wished to show your husband as Smith, because that was the name he was 
born with, and use Brown as an AKA, yet still show your children as 
Browns, you would simply change the "suggested" surname of Smith to 
Brown when you entered your children's names.

For various reasons I have instances in my Family File where the 
legitimate children of a married couple do not have exactly the same 
surname as the main one for their father.
-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Jenny M Benson]

Gail Nestor wrote
I decided to start a new topic here for this question.  I created a new 
master source for a census.  Then I merged an existing master source 
used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master source 
looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed attached to 
the new master.


The problem is that, while I can see the beginning of the "old" detail 
on the assigned sources screen, I cannot access it to update it.  When 
I click "Edit Detail," the new Source Detail template pops up with 
empty fields.  I need a way to get to my old data to show up somewhere 
so that I can use it to update the new fields.


This is how I do it.  Let's say you have an old style Master Source 
named Old Master and you create a new one with SourceWriter and call it 
New Master.  You merge Old Master into New Master.


You go to Joe Bloggs's Assigned Sources screen and select the line which 
shows New Master.  If necessary, resize the columns so you can see all 
of the text in the Detail column.   In the lower half of the screen, 
select the Output tab and the radio button for  Show Entire Source.  You 
can now see the old Source Detail and, in the lower section, any Source 
Text and Source Detail you had with Old Source.


Now click on Cite a Master Source and select New Master again. Keep the 
new Add the Source Detail window about 1/2 full screen size and by 
moving it around as necessary you can see all the old text behind it 
which you want to copy.  You can't actually copy and paste, you will 
have to read and re-type.  When you are finished you will have two rows 
showing New Master - the top one is the old version, which you now 
delete, and the bottom one is the new, SourceWriter version.


That sounds a bit long-winded, but it isn't hard to do and doesn't take 
long.



... And now that I've typed all that, Geoff will be along saying the 
Source Conversion tool is ready!!

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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Jenny M Benson]

Ron Bernier wrote
Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an arrow 
pointing to the the scroll bar.


Funnily enough, it was because of Geoff's big bright red arrow pointing 
to it that I spotted the scroll bar!


People really just need to pay attention to the environment they are 
working in.


Yes, of course we do.  The trouble is that a lot of us people are only 
human and we make mistakes.


I will now go away and write out one hundred times - in my best 
handwriting - "I must be more perfect." :-)

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy V7 Australian/NZ Version

[Jennifer Crockett]

Colin, read further on the Gould website and you will find the following:


HOW DOES THIS DIFFER FROM LEGACY FAMILY TREE 7.0 DELUXE?
In short ... it doesn't ... this one just comes with extras. The program is
the same in both packages, and this comes with the manual in PDF form, as
opposed to a printed one available with Legacy Family Tree 7.0 Deluxe. The
Australia/New Zealand edition will come as a boxed product, and will include
the following as extras available in this version of Legacy only:

Australian Shipping 1788-1968 (CD) - A collection of over 240,000 arrivals
and departures of ships at Australian ports between 1788 and 1968 
Australian Handbook 1904 (CD) - 1008 pages packed with all kinds of useful
and interesting information relating to Australia in 1904 
New Zealand Post Office Directory 1900 (Wise) (CD) - A valuable resource of
names, addresses and occupations of those in New Zealand in 1900 
Online Resources (CD) - A directory of some of the best genealogy sites in
Australia, New Zealand and around the world 
WorldVitalRecords.com.au - 3 months access to the Australian, New Zealand,
and a selection of the UK collections included on this website 
Online Learning Centre - Useful tips and resources to help you with all your
genealogy needs

I wouldn't have much use for those added products.

Jennifer
Melbourne, Australia



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Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2008 8:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy V7 Australian/NZ Version

I have just been on the Gould Genealogy website (the people who sell all 
things genealogical) and they are advertising version 7 of Legacy.

The interesting thing is they speak of the Australian/New Zealand version 
which is supposed to be on the market  in July.

I posted a query on the Group some weeks ago about this and did not get one 
reply!

The following is the advert on Gould's website.

Legacy 7 is Released
It's been a long time coming, but Legacy 7 has finally been released. We 
have received stock of both the program and the upgrade, and are taking 
orders for the Australia/New Zealand version of it which is due for release 
in July.
Have I missed something?

Has this been written about on the group previously

If there is an Australian/NZ version coming out, I would certainly like a 
copy.

Question is; As I have already bought version 7, will it be an update or 
will we have to pay for the new version?



I look forward to clarification on this matter.



Colin.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Jan Roberts]

Yes Jenny, that is what I do - see my second response to David, where I
elaborated a little more.

Cheers,
Jan
 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)


Jan Roberts wrote
>my late first husband was born (say) John George SMITH, but by the time 
>I met him he had legally changed his name to Fred James BROWN.  I 
>became Mrs Jan BROWN when we married. Our daughter is Mary BROWN.  So, 
>although his parents are listed as Bill SMITH and Jane BROWN (he 
>actually took his mother's maiden name when he changed) and the 
>children from his first marriage carry the name SMITH in my database I 
>have recorded John George SMITH as an AKA - and I used an Event to 
>describe the reason and date for the name change.  Otherwise my 
>daughter would show as Mary SMITH, which she has never been.

You are not correct in your last sentence!

If you wish to show your husband and children all with the surname 
Brown, that's fine, and you'd do just as you have done. However, if you 
wished to show your husband as Smith, because that was the name he was 
born with, and use Brown as an AKA, yet still show your children as 
Browns, you would simply change the "suggested" surname of Smith to 
Brown when you entered your children's names.

For various reasons I have instances in my Family File where the 
legitimate children of a married couple do not have exactly the same 
surname as the main one for their father.
-- 
Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Ron Bernier]

Maybe they could have text with 1" high bold 3D lettering with an arrow
pointing to the the scroll bar.  I'm curious, have you sent this same
request to the myriad of other programs that have a scroll bar that is
the same color as the default window?  The scroll bar in the source
writer is just as noticeble and obvious as the scroll bar in any other
window that has a scroll bar.  People really just need to pay attention
to the environment they are working in.



Alfred F. Schwilk wrote
>How about making the scroll bar RED and changing it back to the default 
>color after scrolling.

This *must* be a good idea because I was going to suggest a change of
colour to the scroll bar also!
--
Jenny M Benson

--
Regards, 
Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI




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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy UG] Version 7 source writer for GEDCOM sources

[Jenny M Benson]

John Gregson wrote
Now I've got to understand how to use Source writer on data, with 
sources, that was imported using GEDCOM.
Or to put it another way, is it possible to use Source Writer on 
existing source data.

I suspect that it is going to take a while to understand Source Writer.

Also, it is my understanding by monitoring the mail list, that Source 
Writer is incomplete??


There is not yet available the provision for *automatically* converting 
your old Sources to the new SourceWriter style, but I gather it is 
referred to in the Manual and will be coming in due course.


You may, if you wish, manually convert your old Sources by creating a 
new Master Source with SourceWriter and copying in the information you 
had in your old Source.


I think there are still one or two bugs in SourceWriter being ironed out 
so you might wish to leave your old Sources unconverted for the moment 
and wait for the Source Conversion tool.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Jenny M Benson]

Jan Roberts wrote
my late first husband was born (say) John George SMITH, but by the time 
I met him he had legally changed his name to Fred James BROWN.  I 
became Mrs Jan BROWN when we married. Our daughter is Mary BROWN.  So, 
although his parents are listed as Bill SMITH and Jane BROWN (he 
actually took his mother's maiden name when he changed) and the 
children from his first marriage carry the name SMITH in my database I 
have recorded John George SMITH as an AKA - and I used an Event to 
describe the reason and date for the name change.  Otherwise my 
daughter would show as Mary SMITH, which she has never been.


You are not correct in your last sentence!

If you wish to show your husband and children all with the surname 
Brown, that's fine, and you'd do just as you have done. However, if you 
wished to show your husband as Smith, because that was the name he was 
born with, and use Brown as an AKA, yet still show your children as 
Browns, you would simply change the "suggested" surname of Smith to 
Brown when you entered your children's names.


For various reasons I have instances in my Family File where the 
legitimate children of a married couple do not have exactly the same 
surname as the main one for their father.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

[Jan Roberts]

Yes David, Legacy does allow you to record a different surname for anyone -
regardless of the father's surname.  i.e If you have Legacy options set to
automatically fill in the surname based on the father's surname you can
always override that on an individual basis.  And yes, I am always referred
to as Jan MAIDENNAME in reports.  However, I structure my narrative reports
so that the sentences only use first or "quoted" names (for instance I am
really Janet, but always known as Jan - so Jan is the "quoted name),
interspersed with He/She so the reports read more naturally.  If I want to I
can also use field names in my sentence structures specify the name /
combinations of names to be used.  However, if I retained his birth name as
the primary name in Legacy I would get sentences that said things like John
George SMITH married Janet Kay MAIDENNAME / John and Jan had one daughter
etc. etc. - because the reports will only use the primary name (in a variety
of ways as specified by the field names) - and clearly Janet Kay MAIDENNAME
did not marry a John George SMITH. And if I recorded my daughter's surname
as BROWN it would muddy the report even further.

Cheers,
Jan
 
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Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:09:AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

Hi Jan,

Thank you so much for that.  That's another interesting one.  I think I am
write in saying that John George SMITH can have a daughter named Mary BROWN
(i.e. Legacy will allow a change of Surname).  Am I correct in saying that
in Legacy reports etc you will always be know and referred to as Jan
(..maiden name) in spite of being married to a SMITH /BROWN?  Do let me know
if I am wrong here - I don't actually generate reports that often!
Therefore, personally, one could have your first husband as John George
SMITH and use Fred James BROWN as an A.K.A/alternate name.  This is
personally what I would go for, just to keep my rule of 'standardization at
birth', but it is certainly another option.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Best wishes

David

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Sent: 18 June 2008 00:01
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)


I agree completely with your line of reasoning.  With one exception - my
late first husband was born (say) John George SMITH, but by the time I met
him he had legally changed his name to Fred James BROWN.  I became Mrs Jan
BROWN when we married.  Our daughter is Mary BROWN.  So, although his
parents are listed as Bill SMITH and Jane BROWN (he actually took his
mother's maiden name when he changed) and the children from his first
marriage carry the name SMITH in my database I have recorded John George
SMITH as an AKA - and I used an Event to describe the reason and date for
the name change.  Otherwise my daughter would show as Mary SMITH, which she
has never been.

Cheers,
Jan
 
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mr & Mrs (was Standardization)

Hi Everyone,

All this talk about whether we put full stops or not after Mr, Mrs, Miss,
etc. had got me thinking about my own practice.  When I came to think, I
realized that I do not actually record Mr, Mrs etc. at all in the
Individual's Information' view!  Unless anyone can convince me otherwise, I
can't see the reason.  In Legacy, we can see clearly the males & females and
if they are married or not.

All males are initially 'Master's' and at some point become Mister's'.  If I
distinguish between the two, for living persons at some time I would need to
change all my 'Master's to Mister's'.  That seems unnecessary work.  If you
use the abbreviation 'Mr', am I right in thinking this stands for 'Master'
or 'Mister'?  As all males (in anglicized speak) are 'Mr', why do we need to
specify for each record?

All females are Miss, until they are married at which point they 'usually'
become Mrs.  In the Legacy family view.  My wife and I happily sit on
opposite sides of the page, me with my surname, and Carol with her 'maiden'
surname.  If I then insert Mrs, as her title, surely her name will read Mrs
Carol Southall, but when married her name changed to Mrs Carol Brookes.
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Jenny M Benson]

Alfred F. Schwilk wrote
How about making the scroll bar RED and changing it back to the default 
color after scrolling.


This *must* be a good idea because I was going to suggest a change of 
colour to the scroll bar also!

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Legacy V7 Australian/NZ Version

[Colin Liddell]

I have just been on the Gould Genealogy website (the people who sell all 
things genealogical) and they are advertising version 7 of Legacy.


The interesting thing is they speak of the Australian/New Zealand version 
which is supposed to be on the market  in July.


I posted a query on the Group some weeks ago about this and did not get one 
reply!


The following is the advert on Gould's website.

Legacy 7 is Released
It's been a long time coming, but Legacy 7 has finally been released. We 
have received stock of both the program and the upgrade, and are taking 
orders for the Australia/New Zealand version of it which is due for release 
in July.

Have I missed something?

Has this been written about on the group previously

If there is an Australian/NZ version coming out, I would certainly like a 
copy.


Question is; As I have already bought version 7, will it be an update or 
will we have to pay for the new version?




I look forward to clarification on this matter.



Colin.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Missing Multimedia Files

[ronald ferguson]

George,

Which report are you referring to and where is it? I ask because your format 
seems to be different to mine. I went to Customise>Options>Locations>Test 
multimedia Paths and the log format is:

C:\Documents and Settings\Ron Ferguson\My Documents\legacypicts\ww1grda0001.bmp
Event Picture: R.A.O.B.: William Arthur Ferguson [19] where the 19 refers to 
the RIN. Your  (63) looks more like a file name?


Ron Ferguson

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing Multimedia Files
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:02:21 -0700
>
> Hi group,
>
> Legacy V7 created a list of missing multimedia files:
>
> Picture: Marriage: Source Detail: Picture: Marriage: Source Detail Citation
> (63).jpg
>
> Question: How do I find citation #63?
>
> I have about 20 or 30 different citation pictures that are missing with no
> names just a citation number as shown above.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George in AZ
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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[LegacyUG] Newby to Legacy

[Pat and Rita Molloy]

Thanks to all of you who replied to my query about folder structures.

You are a friendly lot. 

You have given me something to think about particularly with regard to linking 
computer records to paper records.

Just to comment on a couple of points that were made.

My principal reason for having all my genealogical information in one folder 
was that I felt it would make backing up to a CD etc that much simpler.

With regard to re-entering all my information - I'm afraid that's me taking 
stock. It's rather a case of "If only knew then, what I know now". I realise 
now, that especially in the early years of my research, some of my record 
keeping was a bit sloppy and it all needs tiding up.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization

[ronald ferguson]

Allen,

WRT Mr, Mrs, Miss we disagree and I have given some reasons elsewhere. 
Regarding the use of "Master" I still use it on the envelope when writing to my 
grandkids. 

Probably a cultural difference. It just goes to show that one rule does not fit 
all.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:46:21 -0400
>
> I delete Mr. Miss. Mrs. as its redundant as we can see if they are married
> or not. However on some older formal passenger list I see Master for the
> young lads... now when was the last time you seen that anywhere? And this
> is on a 1950's airline passenger manifest.
>
> Allen
>
> --
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:35 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization
>
>>
>> Allen,
>>
>> In general, I would not disagree, however, re "Mr, Miss, Mrs, Ms" I happen
>> to believe the convention to be wrong - full stop, period, end of story
>> :-). Maybe I am a bit like the man who saw the car indicating it was
>> turning, stepped onto the road, and died shouting "I was in the right".
>>
>> Interesting Legacy does give some acknowledgement that the non-use of
>> these titles is not universal, in that when downloading strings from
>> Family Search it strips them out!
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> _
>>
>> New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:13:25 -0400
>>>
>>> Personally...
>>>
>>> I -LOVE- this feature... but I have been described as being "Anal" by
>>> some I
>>> share research with.
>>>
>>> I like to have everything properly formatted in it's proper place. That's
>>> why I prefer to hand key in all new information rather than import
>>> someone's
>>> sloppy work from a shared Gedcom. When I do ordinance lookups on
>>> familysearch I often merge a bunch of sloppiness into my file. This is an
>>> AWESOME feature for me.
>>>
>>> Allen
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "ronald ferguson"
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:38 AM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization
>>>

 Keith,

 I did, a long time ago!

 Options>Customise>Other>Turn on or off Optional Reminder
 Messages>Messages
 and uncheck the bottom two boxes.

 I would have been screaming from the rooftops by now if I hadn't found
 it!!!


 Ron Ferguson

>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[JLB]

I got alot of 'probablies' from some-one without any explanation, so it 
just gets on my nerves.  I figure if I'm going to use them I should also 
leave myself some notes about why I'm saying what I'm saying.  I don't 
use them myself, although I s'pose I could.  It would help to know where 
to start looking when I want to get past 'probably'.  But then if I was 
at that point, and I knew that some-one born before 1620 and living in 
Massachusetts was almost for sure (probably) born in England just 
because I happened to be carrying around that kind of information in my 
head, in between the grocery list and my sisters' birthdays, why would I 
need to write it down?  Except as notes to my inheritors, but geez, do I 
have to do everything for them?

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Kirsten Bowman wrote:

Group:

Now that I have Legacy7 up and running, I feel a compulsion to do some file
cleanup but am in a bit of a quandry.  May I have some opinions on whether
or not to add estimated locations?  I know about various methods for *how*
to do it, but just can't decide *whether* to do it.  If I know that, for
example, ancestors were born before 1620 and lived in Massachusetts, it's a
pretty safe bet that they were born in England.  By the same token, people
who were born and died in what is now Ontario in the early 1800's were
probably married there.  Is anything gained by showing England or Canada
(Upper/Lower, West/East) as *probable* locations or is there a good reason
for just leaving it blank?  Thoughts please.

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Darlene & Don Hicks]

   Yes, that is what I had, on my Dell, also!  If your computer is 8 yrs. old 
and still running good, you are a very lucky person.  My Dell is less then two 
years old, and I just got through buying their protective package for a wopping 
$270.  Nothing they did helped me with ancestry.com.  Oh well, now I have three 
more call times, I can use before my year is up!  They worked for over 10 
hours, with me, but nothing solved the problem.  Norton 360 is the problem, as 
I already stated in another e-mail!  
   Thanks for your suggestions and willingness to help me solve the problem.  
There are some mighty wonderful people on this list!  :-D

Kind Regards,

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~ C.S. 
Lewis, 1898-1963 



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:55 AM
> Another thought.
> 
> I'm using IE, XP SP3 and every update MS has put out on
> automatic update and 
> as yet have not had any of the described problems. Works
> just fine and this 
> is on an 8 year old computer.
> 
> Oh yeh, I've added a couple gigs of memory.
> 
> Art Seddon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Allen Prunty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of
> this list, 
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> 
> 
> Just a thought...
> 
> Are you using Internet Exploder or Firefox?
> 
> I have much better luck with Firefox and I'm afraid the
> last Microslop
> security upgrade probably added a bunch of new permissions
> to Internet
> Exploder and it ... um exploded.
> 
> I have a much better experience with firefox... and Legacy
> will use the
> routines as needed from Internet Exploder when you use the
> mapping function.
> 
> Allen
> http://genealogyclub.net
> 
> --
> From: "Darlene & Don Hicks"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:42 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of
> this list,
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> 
> >   Thanks to all of you who responded to my problems
> with Ancestry!  I am
> > sorry that I brought this problem up, on this list,
> but I contacted Dell,
> > Norton, Ancestry.com and read lots of blogs about this
> problem and have
> > tried each and every one, with no success.  :(  I
> finally wrote to
> > Ancestry and told them if this problem is not fixed,
> post haste, that I
> > would not be renewing next March.  The calls to the
> various programs,
> > listed above, resulted in each one passing the blame
> unto the next one.  I
> > guess I was desperate and still am.  So for now, I
> guess my searching will
> > have to be put on hold; at least where Ancestry is
> concerned.  I have
> > plenty to do, though with Legacy7 and cleaning up my
> sources; being
> > consistant has never been one of my high points, in
> dealing with
> > genealogy.  :-]
> >
> >   Thanks, again, to all of you who tried to help me! 
> I appreciate it so
> > very much!  :)
> >
> > Darlene
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You are never too old to set another goal or to dream
> a new dream."   ~
> > C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Christina
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help,
> off of this list,
> >> concerning Ancestry.com!
> >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 3:28 PM
> >> Got this announcement when I finished the email
> >>
> >> "Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be
> >> preventing viewing original
> >> records"
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Darlene,
> >> >
> >> > I am having problems as well. I have not done
> anything
> >> to my computer and
> >> > tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I
> have sent a
> >> message to Ancestry
> >> > about the problem.
> >> >
> >> > Christina
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene
> & Don
> >> Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>   I cannot see the images on
> Ancestry.com, any
> >> longer.  I had automatic
> >> >> updates on my Windows XP Service pack two
> and it
> >> downloaded the update with
> >> >> service pack three.  Over the weekend I
> had all
> >> kinds of problenms with My
> >> >> Dell desktop computer and finally got
> Dell tech
> >> support to help me.  I had
> >> >> two viruses while I had Norton turned
> off, for 1/2
> >> a day and so the techs
> >> >> reinstalled Windows and I have service
> pack 2,
> >> now.  When I first did
> >> >> searches, at Ancestry.com, last evening,
> it
> >> accessed the census images fine,
> 

[LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[Kirsten Bowman]

Group:

Now that I have Legacy7 up and running, I feel a compulsion to do some file
cleanup but am in a bit of a quandry.  May I have some opinions on whether
or not to add estimated locations?  I know about various methods for *how*
to do it, but just can't decide *whether* to do it.  If I know that, for
example, ancestors were born before 1620 and lived in Massachusetts, it's a
pretty safe bet that they were born in England.  By the same token, people
who were born and died in what is now Ontario in the early 1800's were
probably married there.  Is anything gained by showing England or Canada
(Upper/Lower, West/East) as *probable* locations or is there a good reason
for just leaving it blank?  Thoughts please.

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Darlene & Don Hicks]

Hi Art,
   I am going to keep the names of AVG free anti virus and Sunbelt Firewall for 
next year!  I will be very hesitant to renew my Norton 360.  It has cost me a 
month in research time, already.  Thank you so much for setting me on the 
correct path for next year!  I appreciate it so very much! :-D

Kind Regards,

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~ C.S. 
Lewis, 1898-1963 



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:49 AM
> Yep, I had to do a complete reformat hard drive and
> reinstall Windows and everything else after Norton 360
> crashed my machine.
> 
> Have not had a bit of problem since doing that and
> installing AVG free antivirus and Sunbelt Firewall.
> 
> Art Seddon
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: MICHELLE CROSBY 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of
> this list, concerning Ancestry.com!
> 
> Darlene,
> 
> One last thought- what version of Norton are you using? 
> Norton is known to have caused some problems, it tended to
> clog up both my computers which then ran slow- I have heard
> that it has caused some other problems as well.  I had to go
> to the Norton's web site and get a "removal"
> tool to actual remove all of Norton from the computers. 
> Its funny, why would they have to proved a removal tool if
> it wasn't causing any problems.  even if you turn it
> off it may have embedded itself into your system causing
> problems.  I'm not a geek just know a lot of them, and
> this was their suggestion for you- actually use the removal
> tool to get rid of Norton's from your computer. See if
> that allows the images to be viewed.  If it does than
> Norton was embedded in your system, then you will have to
> purchase a different anti virus program.  Some computers
> are not experiencing any problems with Norton- some are,
> like both of mine.
> 
> Shelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

[Darlene & Don Hicks]

Hi Chick & others,
   My problem ended up being isssues with my Norton 360 2.0 2008.  I have 
already stated, to the list, what happened, and so you may read it on Legacy!  
Thank you so much for responding to my cry out for help.  I went through yours 
and everyone else's suggestions and nothing worked until we dealt with Norton 
360 2.0 2008.  I am writing to the list, as I know others with Norton might be 
experienceing the same problem I had!  I am so sorry to the Legacy list, about 
taking up so much reading time, but it should end, now, that the problem has 
been resolved.  I thank everyone for their patience!  The pouring out of help 
and support was amazing!  What wonderful people are on this list!  I usually 
just post when I have a problem, as I am not a young woman, and need to do as 
much research as possible, in the years I have left!  :-D  Thanks everyone!

Best Regards,

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~ C.S. 
Lewis, 1898-1963 



--- On Tue, 6/17/08, Chick Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Chick Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:51 PM
> Darlene,
> I have not been following this thread but I recall this
> problem being
> mentioned on another list and the following solution was
> offered:
> 
> The problem seems to lie in the way the browser uses the
> information from
> the "add-ons". Ancestry's image viewer, etc.
> 
> This issue is easily fixed in IE 7 by doing the following:
> Go
> to Tools, Internet Options. Click the Advanced tab. Click
> on the Reset
> button. Then click on the next Reset button. This
> completely resets
> everything in IE. Disables all add-ons, cleans the cache,
> cookies, etc.  IE
> 6 and earlier does not have this "easy" reset
> function. And you must
> manually remove everything and DISABLE all the add-ons.
> 
> I'm not sure that the problem is necessarily Norton. I
> do know that other
> people
> have similar issues,
> 
> Hope this helps...
> Chick
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Allen,
> >   I am using Internet Explorer 6; I deleted IE7 with
> no better results.  If
> > you can help, I would really appreciate it!  You can
> e-mail me off-list, as
> > this problem shouldn't be using up any more time
> on Legacy!  I have Norton
> > 360 2008 on my computer.  Thanks for any help you can
> give me!
> >
> > Darlene
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > You are never too old to set another goal or to dream
> a new dream."   ~
> > C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Allen Prunty
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help,
> off of this list,
> > concerning Ancestry.com!
> > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 2:50 PM
> > > Just a thought...
> > >
> > > Are you using Internet Exploder or Firefox?
> > >
> > > I have much better luck with Firefox and I'm
> afraid the
> > > last Microslop
> > > security upgrade probably added a bunch of new
> permissions
> > > to Internet
> > > Exploder and it ... um exploded.
> > >
> > > I have a much better experience with firefox...
> and Legacy
> > > will use the
> > > routines as needed from Internet Exploder when
> you use the
> > > mapping function.
> > >
> > > Allen
> > > http://genealogyclub.net
> > >
> > >
> --
> > > From: "Darlene & Don Hicks"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:42 PM
> > > To: 
> >  > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need
> help, off of
> > > this list,
> > > concerning Ancestry.com!
> > >
> > > >   Thanks to all of you who responded to my
> problems
> > > with Ancestry!  I am
> > > > sorry that I brought this problem up, on
> this list,
> > > but I contacted Dell,
> > > > Norton, Ancestry.com and read lots of blogs
> about this
> > > problem and have
> > > > tried each and every one, with no success. 
> :(  I
> > > finally wrote to
> > > > Ancestry and told them if this problem is
> not fixed,
> > > post haste, that I
> > > > would not be renewing next March.  The calls
> to the
> > > various programs,
> > > > listed above, resulted in each one passing
> the blame
> > > unto the next one.  I
> > > > guess I was desperate and still am.  So for
> now, I
> > > guess my searching will
> > > > have to be put on hold; at least where
> Ancestry is
> > > concerned.  I have
> > > > plenty to do, though with Legacy7 and
> cleaning up my
> > > sources; being
> > > > consistant has never been one of my high
> points, in
> > > dealing with
> > > > genealogy.  :-]
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks, again, to all of you who tried to
> help me!
> > > I appreciate it so
> > > > very much!  :)
> > > >
> > > > Da