Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the Help menu and 
down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO keys to navigate down to 
this option.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera isupr...@me.com wrote:
 
 greetings every one!
 Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?  
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sean,

 On 6 Jun 2015, at 01:54, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
 screen in an application? Is this application dependent?

This is problematic. VO-F4-F4 will give you the position of the insertion point 
but this is its visual position on the screen. If you set the zoom to 200% the 
information won’t be dreadfully inaccurate, but it won’t be precise either. 
I’ve been complaining to Apple about this for several years.

Cheers,

Anne



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Juanita,

You’re probably getting three messages on your Mac, too. Try deleting a message 
and then pressing Cmd-z to restore it. You’ll probably hear that three messages 
have been restored. Mail just shows one copy as they’re all coming to the same 
address and are all sent out at the same time.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 4 Jun 2015, at 18:32, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 I have just one email address.  The interesting thing is though, on my 
 iPhone, I get three copies of each message from this list but on my Mac Air, 
 I just get one copy.  Wonder why that is;



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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Anne Robertson
Yes, I’m getting three copies of every message, but since they’re all being 
sent out at the same time and to the same address, I only see one copy unless I 
delete the message then restore it, at which point, VoiceOver says that three 
messages have been restored.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 3 Jun 2015, at 17:26, matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   Is 
 there amnyone else here getting this.
  
 Matthew



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris,

I was only ever subscribed with one e-mail address and only to this group.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 3 Jun 2015, at 18:48, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple 
 messages.  I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are 
 not either.  Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're 
 subscribed unknowingly under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a 
 thought.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com mailto:matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
 Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Hi,
  
 Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   
 Is there amnyone else here getting this.
  
 Matthew
  
  
  
 From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net 
 mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
  
 This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
 Barbara
  
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hello
  
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
 you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at 
 the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
  
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
  
 Thank you.
  
 
  
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net
  
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
  
 
  
  
 
  
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 Hi Gordon, 
  
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
  
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
  
 Best wishes, 
  
 Sadam Ahmed 
  
 Email: 
  
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
  
 Sent from my iPhone. 
  
 -- 
  
  
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
 Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
 tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  



Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Julie,

To find the next comment or change, press Cmd-Option-k and you should land in a 
popover where you can read the comment or change and who did it. You can also 
accept or reject it. If the popover doesn’t come up, try pressing VO-Shift-j.

Cheers,

Anne
 

 On 26 May 2015, at 07:02, RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and 
 comments - I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - 
 experienced the same problems as you re selecting text that goes over 
 multiple pages so if Ann could post the solution to that I would love it. But 
 the one thing I can’t seem to get it to do is read comment bubbles or track 
 changes. - actually it does read the changes a bit now as it will read both 
 suggested changes but the comments bubbles I really want it to read
 
 Julie 
 Dr Julie Rattray
 Lecturer in Psychology and Education
 University of durham
 School of Education
 Leazes Road 
 DURHAM
 DH1 1TA
 
 Tel: 0191 33 48249
 Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
 
 
 
 On 26 May 2015, at 05:47, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the 
 formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button.
 
 I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this 
 helps for now. 
 
 Take care.
 On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?
  
 Margaret 
  
 From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
  
 To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep 
 asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm 
 thinking of doing both, but it will take time.
  
 To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but 
 you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this 
 through file then templets.
  
 Take cre.
 On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
 Air. 
  
 Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how 
 to use Pages the word processor. 
  
 The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you 
 have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
  
 Margaret
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

I carefully left a blank line before and after the text to be copied into the 
TextEdit document. So all you have to do is select the text after the first 
quotation mark and up to the last quotation mark and copy it to the clipboard, 
then paste it into a TextEdit document.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 26 May 2015, at 11:24, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of punctuation 
 and multiple  signs.  Is it possible to write out this exactly as it should 
 be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces also and does one put 
 the ;
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Here is the fix for this problem.
 
 Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
 
 {
 ^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
 ^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
 ^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
 ^x = { //control-x control-x
 ^x = selectToMark:;
 };
 ^  = setMark:; //control-space
 ~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
 ~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
 }
 
 Save the document as:
 DefaultKeyBinding.dict
 
 You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
 
 Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
 keys to navigate down to Library.
 Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
 
 From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
 application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
 and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
 selected, including page breaks.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Chris,

Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net

Cheers,

Anne


 On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave.
 On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:



[Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone,

I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down!

I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a 
message to:
mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net

The subject and body do not matter.

Cheers,

Anne





Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Margaret,

Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with 
VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
 Air. 
  
 Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
 use Pages the word processor. 
  
 The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
 created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
  
 Margaret 



Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Michael,

You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as 
you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and 
French.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey all,
 something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac.
  if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect 
 and switch to german.
 on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it 
 automatically.
 even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than 
 nothing.
 
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael




Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Roger,

I, too, have been unable to contact Gordon today and my problems are much worse 
than just unwanted e-mail traffic. Gordon hosts my website and it’s been down 
for over three weeks now. We were in contact over the week-end, but today, 
nothing.

I can tell you that the mail server is running SurgeMail which is new to me and 
seems horribly complicated. The unsubscribe message I suggested was adapted 
from the one that works for my own list, so I don’t know why it isn’t working 
for this one.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 25 May 2015, at 16:32, Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Dear David and List members,
 
 I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email 
 addresses I have are being rejected.
 
 I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make 
 contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of 
 what is happening.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Roger.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] 
 Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!
 
 I can understand the frustration.
 
 I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address 
 without success.
 
 I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down 
 completely until things work properly.
 
 David Griffith
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
 
 Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for 
 that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email 
 account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off 
 list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. 
 I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to 
 receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the 
 monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new 
 server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in 
 someone elses mouth that values this list serve.
 
 Good day and good riddens to you.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Well said. 
 
   Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful 
 at all. 
 
 
   But this is getting fucking ridiculous. 
 
   I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. 
 
   Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! 
 
   Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. 
 
   Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense.  
 
   Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from 
 this stupid list.  
 
   Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. 
 
   A horrendous web interface. 
 
   To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. 
 
   For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. 
   
   
   Sadam Ahmed 
   
   
   Sent from my iPhone 
 
   -- 
 
 
 
   On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote:
   
   
 
   Administrator,
just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse 
 to take all
   the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send 
 email's/start the
   list again. Sending people an email stating the list was 
 available would
   have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that 
 were willing
   could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no 
 idea how to
   conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't 
 you have tested
   this? Are you insane? Good god.
   
I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. 
 We all need
   that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. 
 You strike me
   as someone who just got his Nintendo back!
   
That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me 
 off it
   promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out 
 the apple
   operating system to my satisfaction.
   
   
   Best,
   
   Jay
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

There’s a way of fixing the selecting text problem that was posted to another 
list. When I lay my hands on it, I’ll post it here.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 25 May 2015, at 19:00, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now 
 is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this 
 is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages.  
 Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one.
 
 Take care.
 On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk 
 mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Margaret,
 
 Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with 
 VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using 
 Pages.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
 Air. 
  
 Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
 use Pages the word processor. 
  
 The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
 created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
  
 Margaret 
 
 



[Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

{
^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
^x = { //control-x control-x
^x = selectToMark:;
};
^  = setMark:; //control-space
~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
}

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO keys 
to navigate down to Library.
Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing application 
by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, and Ctrl-x-x to 
mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be selected, 
including page breaks.

Cheers,

Anne





Re: [Mac-access]: Where to find complete list of keystrokes?

2015-03-24 Thread Anne Robertson
For the complete list of VoiceOver commands, press VO-h-h. I doubt there’s a 
complete list of Mac OS X commands as they are all shown beside their menu 
items. You can also look in the Keyboard pane of System Preferences.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:41, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I am looking for two complete lists of keystrokes: One for VoiceOver with 
 Yosemite and one for Yosemite itself.  I have been to apple.com/accessibility 
 and not found either, but I am probably a poor searcher.  Please can someone 
 give me directions??, or perhaps direct links?
 
 Much thanks,
 
 Ann
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question

2015-03-21 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello,

Apple uses the Duxberry Braille tables.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question

2015-03-21 Thread Anne Robertson

 On 21 Mar 2015, at 19:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 So how do we either modify them, or create them, provided we have a windows 
 machine lying around, and that we have a copy of Duxberry?

It would require an in-depth knowledge of the internal workings of Mac OS x to 
do that.

My husband made Braille tables for Leopard and Snow Leopard since only American 
English was provided, but since Lion, they’ve defeated him.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: [Mac-access]: incerting a page break.

2015-01-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ian,

Pages can give you the character count with or without spaces, word count, 
paragraph count and page count. Go to the View menu to find this.

Cheers,

Anne
 

 On 6 Jan 2015, at 00:02, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all is there anyway of inserting a page break in text edit. if so how do i 
 do this.
 
 If not I can switch to pages but i’m having a problem with that. I opened my 
 txt document in pages but every time i try to insert a page break the option 
 is dimmed. also is there any way of doing a word count in ether text edit or 
 pages. If not then is there an accessible word processing program for the mac 
 that will allow me to do this.
 
 thanks very much.
 
 Ian McNamara
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Re: [Mac-access]: file format in pages question

2015-01-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Cait,

To save a Pages document in another format you need to use Export to which is 
in the File menu. The available formats are: PDF, Word, Plain Text, EPUB and 
Pages09.

Cheers,

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 hi,
 How can I select a different file format for a pages document other then the 
 default .pages one?  when I pulled up the save dialog, I didn’t see any 
 choices for the file format and it already had the .pages one selected..
 
 thanks,
 Cait
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bold and italicized lettering

2014-12-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Doug,

You need to set Text Attributes to speak. Press VO-v then use right arrow to 
find Text Attributes. Use up or down arrow to find what you want, then press 
Return.

Cheers,

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 Hey guys. I know you can script this with the other screen readers on PC, but 
 i am unsure about how to do it if possible with VO. Is it possible for you to 
 set VO to alert you of bolded or italicized letters/words amongst a sentence? 
 as my final exam in an english class may have these, i would like to be able 
 to be prepared ahead of time.
 Thanks a ton!
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

Of course I’ve e-mailed Accessibility. I always do, for what it’s worth.

Cheers,

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 have you emailed accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com 
 with yoru findings?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

MoveMouse works just fine in Yosemite. You have to copy the MoveMouse Unix 
Executable File to the clipboard and then press Cmd-Shift-a and paste it there. 
You then have to go to Library and open Services. That’s where you paste the 
four work flows. You then open System Preferences and go to the Keyboard tab. 
You’ll find the four MoveMouse functions under Services. Give each one a 
shortcut and you’re good to go.

Cheers,

Anne


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 I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when 
 you unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under 
 that folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable 
 with no extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, nor 
 do the services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions to 
 the letter as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so maybe 
 something in it broke.

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[Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello all,

Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements in 
the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those checkboxes 
are inaccessible with VO.

However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows you 
to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using the 
mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite close, so 
only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right requires around 
ten moves right.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

2014-11-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Phil,

Here’s the link to get MoveMouse:
http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/

Read the installation notes carefully and it should all work fine. I set the 
shortcuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-Arrow key according to the direction of movement.

MoveMouse doesn’t work in popovers unfortunately. You still need to use 
Mousekeys there, or the trackpad if you have a steady hand. I prefer to use the 
trackpad as it avoids having to remember to turn Mousekeys off again.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:25, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
 utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
 just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this 
 mouse move utility.
 thanks
 
 On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
 contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
 in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
 checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
 
 However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
 you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
 the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
 close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
 requires around ten moves right.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Creating a rsume in pages?

2014-11-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Matthew,

The text that is not in English is placeholder text in a form of Latin. Never 
navigate using Quick Nav in Pages as things will not behave correctly.

You should interact with the document and navigate using the arrow keys. You 
should then find that the placeholder text is highlighted and will disappear as 
soon as you start typing.

The placeholder text provides the correct text attributes for that section of 
your document and these will be retained when you replace it.

If you read the text carefully, you should be able to determine what kind of 
text should replace it. So, you should recognise where your name should go, 
where your address should go, and so on.

Cheers,

Anne


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 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I am wanting to create a resume  using pages and have notes something and was 
 wondering if anyone here is seeing this?  
 
 I select the templet  that I need, but in looking at it and what not It looks 
 as if the text in the sample teplet  is not in english.  Any ideas on how to 
 fix this or get around this.  I need to get this done before monday.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Creating a rsume in pages?

2014-11-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Matthew,

In Pages, always make sure that Quick Nav is off.

Interact with the various text areas and navigate just with the arrow keys. The 
placeholder text should be automatically highlighted as you navigate to it and 
will disappear as soon as you start typing.

If ever you hear a wooshing sound and VoiceOver announces that you’ve moved 
something, do the opposite of what you did, move left if you move right, etc. 
Then, press Return followed by Cmd-z. This isn’t a VoiceOver bug, it’s a 
general one, but a nuisance nonetheless.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hi,  Are you saying I should interact with it and use down arrow or should I 
 just turn off quick nav and naviggate that  way?  Just want to be sure I am 
 doing things rite.  Thanks.  I will try to play with this a little more.  It 
 is certainly very confusing.  
 
 Matthew

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[Mac-access]: Insertion point problem revisited

2014-11-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello all,

I’ve had a look at the insertion point problem again and have discovered that 
what is being reported when pressing VO-F4-F4 is the actual position of the 
insertion point on the computer screen, not the position of the insertion point 
as it would appear on the printed page. As far as I can see, this is useless to 
us, but by adjusting the zoom, I’ve been able to get it closer to what we need.

To calibrate the insertion point, find out the position of the first tab stop 
on a line, then use Cmd- or Cmd- until VO-F4-F4 gives approximately the 
correct distance from the left-hand margin. It isn’t perfect, but it’s better 
than what we have by default.

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Re: [Mac-access]: i think I might have found a problem with yosemite.

2014-11-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

Holding down the C key is no longer the way to boot from an external source. 
You have to hold down the Option key then press right arrow twice.

Cheers,

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 Hello all. I was working on the final part  of my Yosemite how to which was 
 going to be released in 2 days, that being Monday, and I went to boot in to 
 my newly made install. First, holding down the C key did not work like it 
 should have.
 
 Second once I did manage to get booted in to  the recovery drive starting 
 voice over was a bare. I had to hit enter on something then it talked.
 
 Third, once I went in to disk utility then to the partition, I could not get 
 my mac erased. All options were dimmed as if the disk is locked, which it is 
 not. I cannot show anyone the demo as it is not done and I don't want 
 anything spoiled but trust me when I say I had to stop in the middle as I 
 could not continue. Help please?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: switching keyboards on the Mac

2014-11-11 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Mary,

I just press Cmd-Space to switch keyboards. To set this up, go to System 
Preferences/Keyboard/Shortcuts. Select Input sources in the first table, then 
in the second table, check the checkbox for Select the previous input source. 
If you only have two keyboards, this will work as a toggle.

If you already use this shortcut for Spotlight, return to the first table and 
select Spotlight. Then, in the second table set Show Spotlight search to ⌃Space.

Cheers,

Anne

 On 11 Nov 2014, at 19:42, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to be able to quickly switch between the standard U,.S. English 
 keyboard layout and the Russian one. I imagine this can be done in system 
 preferences. But what I’m hoping exists is some sort of toggle that will let 
 me quickly switch back and forth between the two. I only want the cyrillic 
 one for performing searches on Russian language websites, and thus it would 
 be nice to be able to not have to switch keyboards the long way. Any help 
 here?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Mary
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pagesfindreplace

2014-11-11 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello,

Find and Replace works the same way whatever the application. Press Cmd-f then 
navigate to the Options button if replace is not currently available. Having 
entered the text to be found and the replacement text, click Done then press 
Escape.

Cheers,

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 Can anyone on the list remind me of the command for “findreplace” for Pages?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

2014-11-08 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick,

Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/

This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but it 
does work for renaming tables.

I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
developer recommends.

Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right place. 
You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, VO-Shift-Space 3 
times didn’t work for me.

Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.

Cheers,

Anne
 

 On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
 footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
 still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
 enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
 minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
 doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as 
 easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

2014-11-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick,

The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
tested it. You can still rename tables, too.

Cheers,

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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

2014-11-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 link Footnote 2”. 
Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the 
next link command doesn’t work.

I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also.

Cheers,

Anne
.

 On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:17, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.
 
 1. Launch pages
 2. Start a new document
 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
 4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what 
 I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing 
 when coming across them. 
 
 If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.
 
 I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Accented letters on a Mac

2014-11-05 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

Option-e gives an accute accent as a dead key, so you can type any appropriate 
lettre afterwards and the accute accent will be applied to it. This is true of 
all the other accents I gave you.

However, if you’re typing a lot of Spanish, why not add the Spanish keyboard 
layout in System preferences so that you can switch to it when you need it? 
This is what I do for French, but sometimes, I just can’t be bothered to switch 
my brain over to thinking in the azerty layout which is why I’m so familiar 
with all those accents on a British keyboard.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hi Anne -
 
 I’ve been playing around with the keyboard, but can’t find how to create 
 other acute accents. In Spanish the acute accent is used with all five 
 vowels, but I can only find an acute E by using the options key. Have I 
 missed something? -
 

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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

2014-11-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

The Finder is the application that manages the storage of files and folders 
whatever the application that created them.

On a Mac, it is a bad idea to put lots of icons on the desktop as they all get 
loaded into memory when the computer is booted and can therefore slow down the 
machine.

The Dock contains aliases to applications which are in fact in the Applications 
folder. It can also contain pointers to folders stored anywhere on the Mac.

Cheers,

Anne


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 I was under the impression as a Mac newbee that people did not fill up the 
 Finder with icons but went to the Doc or to the Documents folder.  Now am I 
 missing out on something?  Maybe you are referring to the Documents folders 
 as Finder folders, please enlighten me!

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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

2014-11-04 Thread Anne Robertson
It’s best to use the Dock for aliases. Personally, I don’t bother with them as 
it’s so easy to locate any files or folders I want by using the first letter or 
two of the name. I’m really pretty organised when it comes to storing files.

Also, don’t forget that it’s easy to reorganise the Dock so that your items are 
in alphabetical order. Just use Cmd-Option-Right or Left Arrow and you’ll hear 
where you’re putting the item you’re moving.

Cheers,

Anne


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  Final question here then, would I be wrong to make Aliases on the desktop? 
 is it best to put them on the dock or just leave in the documents folder?

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Re: [Mac-access]: work around for the voice over selection bug in pages?

2014-11-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

That workaround was for TextEdit, not Pages. I have absolutely no idea how to 
select large chunks of text in Pages. I tried everything I could think of this 
morning with no success.

Sorry not to be of help.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hello to all.  I have 1 last pages question. I believe the work around that 
 Ann posted was to fit to window or something for the voice over selecting 
 bug. I do have that set in zoom but it does not work. I tried to find rap to 
 window in the arrange tools but that area is totally not accessible. Nothing 
 is labeled, radio buttons that I don't know what they do are not selectable 
 for lack of a better term, nothing seems to work, plus most of the section 
 even if you select all is grayed out. I just as of an hour ago emailed apple 
 about this and gave them a screen cast of what happens.  Over all to me this 
 new version is a mess to work with. and I'm seeing this in the apple forums 
 as well. At least my end notes still work though according to my prof.
 
 Anyway if someone can please remind me of what the work around was/is for the 
 voice over selection bug I'd love to hear it.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Accented letters on a Mac

2014-11-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

You get accented letters by using the Option key with various letters.
Option-e - accute accent;
Option-i - Circumflex;
Option-u - diresis also known as umlaut;
Option-Accent sign - grave accent;
Option-q - OE diphthong.

Do you need any others?

Cheers,

Anne

 On 4 Nov 2014, at 21:16, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 Some time back Anne was kind enough to tell me how to create letters with 
 accents. I thought it was one of those things I’d always remember, but guess 
 what, my memory has let me down! So Anne, or anybody else, can  you please 
 remind me how this is done, and I’ll file it this time, somewhere more 
 reliable than my memory :)
 
 Thanks -
 
 Andy
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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

2014-11-03 Thread Anne Robertson
If you’re using Yosemite and the latest Pages, VO misreports a section break as 
a page break. There is no short cut for section break so you have to do it from 
the Insert menu. Also, Enter is not Return. The short cut for page break is 
Cmd-Enter which is Cmd-FN-Return on a laptop keyboard.

When I tested this problem I was able to insert a section break at the desired 
location, so I don’t know what’s happening for you.

Cheers,

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 Hello to all. I'm trying to add a section brake in a section I want to 
 remove, how ever, it is adding it at the end of the document. I have tried 
 everything, routing then pushing cmd shift enter, pushing cmd shift enter, it 
 adds it to the end of  the document always. I can't even cut and paste the 
 brake so I can remove about 10 pages of stuff from this document I messed up 
 on. Any help? I need to get this done yesterday and I'm about to pull what's 
 left out of my hair out. lol! I  also wrote to the apple community so we'll 
 see what they say.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

2014-11-03 Thread Anne Robertson
OK, you’re inserting a section and not a section break. By default, that means 
adding a section at the end of the document. If you insert a section break 
instead, you can then redefine the part of the document that comes after the 
section break.

I think you must have created that short cut yourself at some time, as it isn’t 
in my version of Pages.

Also, when creating a template, I always save it first to a folder in my 
Documents folder so that I can put it on another computer or share it with 
someone else. Of course, I have to add it to my templates before I can use it, 
but at least that way it isn’t hidden from me.

Cheers,

Anne


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 I tried  the insert menu as well. but the section always went to the end  of 
 the document. This has been an issue under mavericks as well and I'm up to 
 date. I'm also having the can't select multiple pages issue. I think I might 
 try a reinstall hopeing I won't loose my 1 templet I made.  and the function 
 is still there it says
 
 insert section, cmd shift enter.

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Pages 5.5: access to paragraph styles menus lost again

2014-10-19 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone,

I’ve installed Yosemite as I heard good things about it, and I got the iWork 
updates. Unfortunately, in Pages, the menu buttons to the right of the 
Paragraph styles is no longer accessible using VoiceOver. We now have to use 
the mouse or Mouse keys to get to it and click it. Fortunately, no counting is 
required as the word “Menu” is spoken if you have “Speak item under mouse” set 
with a delay of zero.

I’ve reported this regression to Apple.

I’ve also reported the fact that the VO-F4-F4 problem hasn’t been fixed yet. 
What’s more, they’ve taken the command out of the commands menus, but VO-k 
still recognises it and it still reports its fictitious coordinates.

Cheers,

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Re: iworks again

2014-10-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ian,

When you set up your new MBA, did you enter your Apple ID? if so, as soon as 
there is an update to these applications, they should be detected on your MBA 
and then associated with your Apple ID. At least, I think that’s how it works!

Cheers,

Anne


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   Thanks to Ann for her reply.
 
 My new mba came with iworks installed by the retailer. When I go on the App 
 Store from my mac mini, Iworks is not listed as a purchase. I guess this is 
 because it was not done through my apple i d.
 
 Is there a way to link the purchase of the mac book air to show that I now 
 own a copy of iWork's and ilife?
 
 Thanks again
 Ian
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Re: iWorks package

2014-10-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ian,

Once you’ve got iWork on one of your machines, you can get it on all your 
machines. I think it appears in your purchased items.

Cheers,

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 I've just got i Works included in my new macbook air. Lucky me. Can I get 
 even more lucky? Does this give me the right to iworks for free on my mac 
 mini and iphone?
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Re: Another question about pages

2014-10-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Marcos,

To adjust line spacing, go to the Formatter and select Style. You’ll find what 
you need in the scroll area.

As for adding a page number, decide where you want your page number to be then 
interact with that area. I tried with the right-hand side of the header. Once 
in the right place, go to the Insert menu and choose Page number. After this, 
the page numbers will be inserted automatically in the same place.

Cheers,

Anne



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 Good morning all:
 
 Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version of 
 the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.
 
 Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between lines 
 (in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but I can 
 not find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the document?
 
 Regards.
 Marcos Rodrigues
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can do 
VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
 cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted to 
 get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. I’ve 
 looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that would 
 let me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -
 
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

I interact once with the table then I can press Cmd-Down Arrow and I’m at the 
bottom of that column. Cmd-Right Arrow takes me to the end of the row. I have 
my mouse set to ignore the other cursors but I don’t know whether that makes a 
difference.

Another thought, have you set Cmd-Down Arrow to do something else in Numbers? 
Someone I know set Cmd-c as a short cut for something other than Copy and 
wondered why it wasn’t working to copy things.

However, I do find that Numbers easily gets temperamental and I have to repair 
permissions to get it to behave itself again.

Cheers,

Anne



On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:24, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi Anne -
 
 When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the key 
 stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked on 
 list. Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a spreadsheet, 
 I land in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow twice to 
 actually get in to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I can’t do CMD 
 down arrow to get to the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned above -
 
 Andy
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
 about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can do 
 VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row of 
 cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve interacted 
 to get rid of the template screen, which I always get when Numbers opens. 
 I’ve looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t see anything that 
 would let me change where the cursor is when opening a spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

I don’t get all the VO chatter you do because I have verbosity set to Low for 
Numbers but I do have to interact with table one.

I tried with Quick Nav on and it still worked. Then I tried with the Trackpad 
commander on and it still worked.

You didn’t say whether you’ve repaired permissions lately. If you have, then 
maybe reinitialising the PRAM will help.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:01, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi Anne -
 
 When I first interact after opening Numbers, VO says:
 Table 1 table.
 
 I had to interact again, and then VO announces:
 Table 1 table has been removed from selection.
 
 At this point, I was able to access my spreadsheet, but CMD down arrow, which 
 hasn’t been reassigned to do something different, just gave me the ding sound 
 -
 
 Andy
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 16:28, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 I interact once with the table then I can press Cmd-Down Arrow and I’m at 
 the bottom of that column. Cmd-Right Arrow takes me to the end of the row. I 
 have my mouse set to ignore the other cursors but I don’t know whether that 
 makes a difference.
 
 Another thought, have you set Cmd-Down Arrow to do something else in 
 Numbers? Someone I know set Cmd-c as a short cut for something other than 
 Copy and wondered why it wasn’t working to copy things.
 
 However, I do find that Numbers easily gets temperamental and I have to 
 repair permissions to get it to behave itself again.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 15:24, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 When I do CMD down arrow, I just get that ding sound that indicates the key 
 stroke doesn’t exist, same for VO shift down arrow, that’s why I asked on 
 list. Maybe I’am not using Numbers correctly. Each time I open a 
 spreadsheet, I land in the layout area. I have to hit VO shift down arrow 
 twice to actually get in to the body of the spreadsheet. Once there, I 
 can’t do CMD down arrow to get to the end of the spreadsheet  as mentioned 
 above -
 
 Andy
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 As far as I know, you can’t change this behaviour. But what’s so difficult 
 about doing Cmd-down Arrow to get to the last row? Alternatively, you can 
 do VO-Shift-End to get to the last cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 11:14, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When I open a spreadsheet in Numbers, I want ti to open at the last row 
 of cells, but it always opens at the top [a1], this is after I’ve 
 interacted to get rid of the template screen, which I always get when 
 Numbers opens. I’ve looked in the preferences for Numbers, but couldn’t 
 see anything that would let me change where the cursor is when opening a 
 spreadsheet -
 
 Andy
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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

You should repair permissions after installing new software and after updates.

People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not repairing 
permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs such as 
Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you have already 
done.

I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m talking 
about.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy

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Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell all the time?

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

To repair permissions:
• Open your Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u);
• Type dis to get quickly to Disk Utility and open it (Cmd-o);
• Interact with the table and navigate down to your hard drive (probably the 
second item in the list);
• Stop interacting and navigate twice to the right to make sure that First Aid 
is selected;
• Navigate straight down as far as Repair disk permissions and press VO-Space:
• You can follow progress by navigating up to the Results table and interacting 
with it;
• When the repair is complete, it will say “Permissions repair complete” at the 
bottom of the Results table;
• Quit Disk utility.

There will always be a few things to repair. I usually find about 7 lines in 
the table, but I’ve seen computers with thousands of lines of repairs!

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 19:21, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Not Andy but what is Repan permissions and how is this done please
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after 
 updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not 
 repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs 
 such as Numbers, you’re going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you 
 have already done.
 
 I’ve been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I’m 
 talking about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven’t ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed, but 
 while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone. Maybe 
 it’s time -
 
 Andy
 
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Re: iBooks

2014-08-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Gordon,

Here’s where to find your iBooks:
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/


Unfortunately, the names are not meaningful and the file type is epub.

As far as I know, you can only open them in iBooks, unless you created them 
yourself, in which case, you can open them with Adobe Digital Editions.

However you open your books, you can still try using VO-Shift-c to copy what’s 
in the VoiceOver Cursor to the clipboard and then paste it into TextEdit. In 
Adobe Digital Editions, this gives you a page at a time.

Cheers,

Anne


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 shane I can no longer find the relevant message.  Where are books stored when 
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Re: how do i go about removing mail preview pane using mavrics?

2014-07-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Michael,

Things have changed in Mavericks. You must turn Trackpad commander off. 
Navigate to the horizontal splitter with VO;
Bring the mouse;
Press down on the trackpad with one finger while stroking downwards with 
another finger.

Sometimes, it takes several attempts to get this right and some people find it 
impossible to do.

You used to be able to double-click with the trackpad or mouse, but since 
Mavericks, this no longer works. Neither does interacting with the horizontal 
splitter and dragging it down that way. VO just goes busy and you can’t 
complete the operation.

Cheers,

Anne

On 30 Jul 2014, at 08:22, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:

 hey all,
 i remember successfully achieving this along time ago.
 how do i go about removing this ridiculous mail preview pain?
 i remember having to interact with the horizontal splitter in classic view 
 and drag it to the bottom or something but have forgotten exactly how to do 
 it.
 any help fixing this would be greatly appreciated.
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: Verbosity in E-mail

2014-07-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

Press VO-V then navigate right until you hear Text Attributes. use the up or 
down arrow to find DO Nothing, then press Return.

Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Jul 2014, at 20:17, Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 It hasn’t made any difference when I change to minimum, it is still reading 
 out everything from type face to colour etc etc.
 
 Eleanor
 On 25 Jul 2014, at 18:56, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 
 Yes, you can change this behavior in the text tab, but you can also use vo-v 
 to do it quicker.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 It's the text atributes. I think it's in the text tab of the verbosity pane.
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 12:45, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am reading an e-mail with a link, when I come to the link vo says a 
 shade of royal blue on and it then reads the link.  I have tried to alter 
 the verbosity from high, through medium and low but even on low vo still 
 says this about a shade of royal blue, it also seems to be reading out 
 font type face and colour.  Any ideas please.  This was why I was looking 
 for Skype help so someone might hear what is going on.
 
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Re: How do I type letters with accents over them?

2014-07-23 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

Your keyboard is already British English. The Mac keyboard is different from a 
PC keyboard so the @ sign is where it should be, over the 2. Just use VO-k to 
find where all the keys are.

If you’re typing in another language, you can add the keyboard layout for that 
language in System preferences and switch to it when you need it.

I have both British English and French configured on my MacBook Air and use 
Cmd-Space to toggle between the two.

However, if you’re typing Spanish, the tilde dead key is Option-n so for ñ you 
do Option-n followed by n. The acute dead key is Option-e. ¡ is Option-1. ¿ is 
Option-Shift-Slash.

Cheers,

Anne

On 22 Jul 2014, at 23:02, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Thanks - I've found the accent key, next to the 'z', and with shift, it does 
 become Tilde, but I don't know how to type it so that it becomes part of a 
 written letter; for example, I want to write 'n' with a Tilde over it, but 
 holding down shift accent and 'n' just gives me a Tilde followed by a capitol 
 'n'.
 
 Incidentally, I'm thinking this keyboard on this MBA is set up as a US 
 keyboard, because the 'at sign' for instance, is over the number 2, and I'm 
 use to having the quote sign on the number 2 key. Can the keyboard layout be 
 changed on an MBA to UK english? -
 
 AndyOn 22 Jul 2014, at 21:44, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 To do this on the mac book
 use shift grove key to do a tilda. On Jul 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Andy Collins 
 a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 When writing Spanish, I need to be able to use the Tilde and other accent 
 signs, how can I do this on my MacBook Air please? -
 
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Isaac,

It’s a very bad idea to have VoiceOver announce when a modifier key is pressed 
as it prevents the use of the command “Copy last phrase to clipboard”.

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Re: More E-mail Questions

2014-07-23 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

VoiceOver saying “Misspelt” is an option. You need to spend some time going 
through the VoiceOver Utility and looking at all the settings. Pay particular 
attention to the Verbosity category, especially the Text tab.

Cheers,

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wrote:

 Ah but you have to hit the Fn key twice to start it and you do not say that 
 below.
 
 I think from a later message response you are saying to me that the vo saying 
 misspelt continuously is a bug, have I understood that correctly?

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Re: Should I move to Mavericks?

2014-07-23 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Gordon,

Your iBooks are stored here:
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/

As for everyone moving to Mavericks, there are features of iWork09 that are 
still missing from the new versions of the apps and you can’t install iWork09 
under Mavericks from the original DVD, so many business people are unable to 
move to Mavericks because of this. The major missing feature is merge fields 
which Archie, for one,uses for invoicing. I hope they fix this soon.

Cheers,

Anne


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 There are accessibility issues with iBooks, that is true.  On that subject, 
 does anybody know where books are downloaded too?  I bought one in he iBooks 
 store for my employer the other day and I can’t find the darn thing anywhere!
 
 Kindest regards

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Re: Connecting Focus Blu 40 to Mac Book Air

2014-07-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

You configure Braille settings in the VoiceOver Utility, first of all in the 
Braille category, then in Verbosity under Braille.

Cheers,

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 Hi, I have plugged in my Focus Blu 40 and at least I know it works!  Now how 
 do I configure it so that I have grade 2 Braille and hopefully 6 cells rather 
 than 8 cell display as I find it cumbersome with the 8 dot cell.
 
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Re: Focus Blu now Connecting Via Bluetooth

2014-07-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

In VoiceOver Utility, go down to the second from last category which is 
Braille. Select Layout. You’ll find several check boxes such as Use 8-dot 
Braille, and others. Then select the Verbosity category and select Braille. Set 
Braille verbosity to either low or medium.

Cheers,

Anne


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wrote:

 Hi All and thanks for help on connecting the Focus Blu 40, at least that 
 hurdle is now over and I can connect via usb and bluetooth.  Now I just feel 
 the display is too cluttered for me, if I am in an e-mail say, it is fine and 
 I can read in grade 2 braille but there are times when the 8 cells are 
 showing up, any suggestions please? 
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Re: Focus Blu now Connecting Via Bluetooth

2014-07-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

All the commands that are programmed into your Braille display show up in a 
table when you click the Assign Commands… button in the VoiceOver Utility, 
category Braille, Displays tab. You can add VoiceOver commands if you find that 
you need to. To find the table, just press VO-Down Arrow after clicking the Add 
button.

The Status cells give all kinds of information. Each dot has a function, and if 
you enable the Status cells, you can read about them when you press the router 
button above the cell. Dots 7 and 8 in the first cell show the direction in 
which panning can go on the current line. So, if both 7 and 8 are shown, you 
are somewhere in the middle of a line. If only dot 8 is shown, you’re at the 
beginning of the line so you can only move right.

Status cell 2 shows such things as bold, italic, underscore, etc.

I can’t remember what cell 3 does, but if you enable it, you can press the 
router button above it and read what it says.

I have a Focus 14 Blue, so I’m disinclined to use up 3 cells.

I don’t normally use my Focus 14 with my Mac, I got it for my iPhone, mostly 
for reading books. I use a Braillino with my Mac.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Jul 2014, at 20:40, Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great Anne, I am now up and running with Braille display.  Now if I want to 
 use my Braille display rather than the keyboard, where can I get information 
 on using the display  for writing?
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Pasting signature into letter in Pages

2014-07-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone,

I think we’ve finally cracked this problem. You can’t find out exactly where 
your signature is on the page, but you can know where it is relative to the 
body of the letter and your name.

To insert a scanned signature file, copy the appropriate image file to the 
clipboard and paste it in a couple of lines above your name. Press VO-j to jump 
to the Formatter. Click on Arrange. Interact with the Arrange formatter scroll 
area and navigate to Text wrap which should be set to “Inline with text”. Then 
go down to Size and set the Width field to 4 cm, unless you have a very large 
signature! You can check that it is in the right place by using the arrow keys. 
There should be the same number of blank lines before and after the signature.

If you use inches, set the width to 1.5.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: VO Announcing Page Numbers in Pages When Reading A Document

2014-07-05 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

If you navigate through a Pages document by sentence or paragraph, VO wil 
announce the page number as you go on to a new page.

If you use VO-a to read continuously, you’ll hear the page change sound but no 
page number will be announce. However, if you pause the reading, VO-F3 will 
tell you the page number.

Cheers,

Anne


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wrote:

 Is there a setting where I can get VO to announce page numbers, for example 
 if it is a 30 page document, I would just like to know it was moving from 
 page one to two etc.
 - Original Message - From: Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air
 
 
 Hello Eleanor. here is an article from apple on how to migrate using 
 mavericks. It shows how to do it several ways I think I hope this helps.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5872
 On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am still not clear from your wristbands if all my voice-over setting back 
 up also when you say about the disk being formatted do I have to format my 
 external hard drive on a Mac currently it has some Windows files on it such 
 as Word documents
 
 Eleanor Martha Burke
 
 On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:48, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  To back up your mac, go to sysrem prefs, then to time machine. Now 
 choose your disk if it is formatted  properly, then  follow the prompts. I 
 normally just have it back up everything then taylor it later to my needs.
 
 Good luck.
 On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to back 
 up my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo settings 
 also. Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, would that be 
 sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite drive. At present I am 
 more concerned with backing up my vo settings rather than having a lot of 
 data on the Mac.
 
 
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Re: Pages - Reading A document

2014-07-05 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

I’m wondering what kinds of documents you’re reading. Placeholder text is text 
that is meant to be replaced. You navigate to it with just the arrow keys and 
start typing the replacement text when VO says “Highlighted”. So, it’s quite 
important information that you’re getting.

Cheers,

Anne

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wrote:

 When I am reading a document in Pages I have vo say things like exited list, 
 page holder, I can understand the exited list but the place holder is 
 something I could do without having to listen to from time to time.  Again 
 when there are bullet points vo will announce bullett bullett etc and again 
 something about place holder.  Now I did make an activity to put verbosity to 
 minimum when reading a table but how can I cut down on this verbosity?
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Re: Reading A Document in Pages

2014-07-05 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

When I use Cmd-f to find text, I click the Done button and I’m back in the text 
with the first result of the Find highlighted. To find the next occurrence, I 
press Cmd-g and the next one is highlighted. As far as I know, all Mac Find 
commands use the letter ‘g’ to go straight to the next occurrence.

Cheers,

Anne


On 5 Jul 2014, at 16:26, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 OK I have now got the Find to work but in order to get back to my text I have 
 pressed the Escape button, is this correct?  I am referrring to the item I 
 have found and continuing from there.  I presume if I find that in my first 
 search it is not what I am looking for and I bring up the Find box again, I 
 must execute the Cmd F command again.  Is this correct also?
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Re: Reading A Document in Pages

2014-07-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Cmd-f works fine, too. Also, why not create an activity with low verbosity and 
other tweaks to keep extra information to a minimum?

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Re: My clean install so far

2014-06-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello John,

For as long as VoiceOver has existed, it has been possible to install Mac OS X 
without sighted help. Back in the days of Tiger, Braille was not available, but 
since Leopard, we’ve had Braille too during installation.

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Re: Widgets

2014-06-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Graham,

The command to close a widget is now VO-Cmd-Escape.

Cheers,

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On 7 Jun 2014, at 17:06, Graham Smith g.smith...@rogers.com wrote:

 I have just listened to David Woodbridge’s podcast on the dashboard and 
 unless its me, some of the keystrokes have obviously changed in later 
 versions of Mavericks.  For example command,   vo will not close an open 
 widget, does anyone know of the later way of using widgets?
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
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Re: Blind square

2014-06-03 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Bill,

I use BlindSquare and love it. It updates me on where I am and tells me about 
nearby intersections. I use it when walking and on buses. It uses quite a bit 
of battery power and you have to remove it from the app switcher to stop it but 
it runs beautifully in the background so you can use another GPS app to get 
turn-by-turn instructions at the same time.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Is anyone on the list used blind square. How easy is it to use. And what was 
 your overall impression of it thanks very much Bill Deatherage
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Re: Tesco on the Mac - Verified by Visa

2014-05-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello David,

Although Tesco isn’t of interest to me as I live in France, I know of other 
sites where the contents of the page change without me hearing the page loaded 
sound. What I usually do on pages that puzzle me is use the Web Rotor to 
investigate the form controls. I find the Web Rotor to be extremely useful for 
many things.

I’ve never used Windows so can’t make comparisons.

Cheers,

Anne


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 A few weeks ago on this list I reported a problem with using Verified by
 Visa.   This problem was also shared by other members of this list. I then
 reported to Apple Accessibility a specific problem with Verified by Visa on
 the Tesco Grocery Shopping site. This problem  stopped the completion of a
 Checkout.  
 
 Yesterday on another  list  Chris Hallsworth suggested to me that I might
 try disabling JavaScript in
 Safari , advice which I followed.
 
 I am not sure which, if either,  of these steps , contacting apple
 Accessibility or disabling Javascript, have provoked  the necessary change
 but I was able to complete  a checkout on the Tesco site with the Mac
 today.
 
 The behaviour and interaction is very different to what the experience  is
 on Windows. Clearly this is a Mac list but as many, like me, would have been
 forced to switch to Windows to complete a checkout under the old setup I
 thought it would be helpful to set out the difference in the Mac Experience
 from Windows. so I thought I would  outline what I had to do.
 
 1. Having completed the Tesco part of the checkout you will be taken to a
 page where there is a verified by Visa Frame.
 2. The contents of this frame will not be visible unless you interact with
 it.
 3. Having interacted with it however the crucial part is that now Voiceover
 does , without any problem, now read the password request, saying something
 like  enter the 1st 6th
 and 7th characters of your password.
 
 Although I could find no way of navigating to the required  edit boxes
 using normal Voiceover navigation I did get there by pressing the tab key.
 However, Unlike on Windows browsers,  you will not jump to the next edit box
 after
 entering the character of the password. You will have to press the tab key
 every time you want to  enter the next character.  I have my tab key on the
 Mac set up to automatically interact so that may have assisted me.
 4. Then,, after entering the last character of the password,  I pressed
 enter. This proved to be a mistake. Basically after getting a bit lost I
 went back to the top of the web page and investigated down again. When I
 re-interacted with the Verified by Visa Frame  I found this time a send data
 button which I hit. So presumably you do not press enter after entering the
 last character of the password but continue tabbing to the send data button.
 5. I was again misled by my Windows Experience by expecting then to be taken
 straight back to a Tesco Confirmation page.  Again I investigated the page
 and nothing appeared to have happened. However I found the Verified by Visa
 Frame  yet one more time and this time I found a payment authorised message
 with a Continue to Confirmation button .  I press this button and it return
 me to the Tesco Checkout confirmation page. Steps 4 and 5 are automated
 using IE and
 Firefox on Windows so it is slightly confusing unless you know that these
 extra steps are necessary in Safari on the Mac.
 
 So the good news is that it is now definitely accessible though I am
 slightly confused as to why the process is more convoluted than with Window
 Browsers. Ironically it may well be the fact that I have disabled JavaScript
 which is requiring me to take these extra steps.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: prizmo

2014-05-11 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Judy,

To get the Giraffe Reader, go to:
http://www.giraffe-reader.com

To get the StandScan Pro Power Bundle:

http://standscan.com/index.php/product/standscan-pro-portable-document-scanner-power-bundle.html

The Giraffe Reader weighs 70 g and can fit into a large handbag. It unfolds in 
seconds and takes up very little space when erected. However, the results are 
not as good as with the StandScan Pro which has its own lighting. You need a 
document case, briefcase or back pack to carry the StandScan Pro around.

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Re: Not able to disable the preview pane on a new iMac

2014-05-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Frank,

In Mavericks, double-clicking on the splitter no longer works. You have to hold 
down the physical mouse and drag the splitter to the bottom if it’s a 
horizontal splitter, or to the far right if it’s a vertical splitter. If you’re 
in Classic view, it will be the horizontal splitter which has to be dragged to 
the bottom.

I tried interacting with the splitter to move it to the bottom, but it would 
get stuck part way down and Mail would become busy and no longer respond, so 
the only solution seems to be to drag it with the mouse or trackpad.

If you have a Magic Trackpad for your iMac, press down with one finger and 
stroke downwards with another to drag the splitter.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hi all, I am setting up a new iMac with the latest OS update. I am trying to 
 disable the preview pane in Mac mail. On other Macs I have followed the 
 procedure below and it worked. For some reason I can't get it to work on this 
 computer. What am I doing wrong. Here are the steps I follow:
 Find the splitter between the mailbox and preview pane
 Route mouse pointer with VO COMMAND f5
 Double click the physical mouse
 Any suggestions are appreciated.
 Thanks
 Frank
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Re: mac focusing issues under 10.9

2014-04-19 Thread Anne Robertson
I find that setting the mouse to ignore the other cursors prevents troublesome 
focusing issues.

Cheers,

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 I have never had that issue. Check your curser tracking to see if it is off 
 if it is utrn it on. You can do this quickly wiht vo shift f3. It's a toggle. 
 Iv'e been using a mac since snl and no focus issues at all in regard to the 
 finder.
 On Apr 19, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That happens to me at times also. I will hit vo m and it will say apple menu 
 but not go there. What I usually do is hit escape or go to the dock and bak 
 again and it will help it sometimes. Also having quick NaV on will affect 
 it. Just keep trying and it will eventually work lol.
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 hi all on my mac when i am on the desktop under 10.9.2 
 When i am on my desktop and i click a file it isn’t working and it is like 
 my focus is not not he desktop does that make sense?
 
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Re: Pages query

2014-04-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Selecting and copying text in Pages for Mavericks works just fine for me and I 
use it a lot.

Cheers,

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On 16 Apr 2014, at 17:29, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just did a test on this with pages and copied the text to the clipboard and 
 pasted it in to another app and nothing was missing. I am not sure why this 
 is happening.
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:19 AM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Line
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Apr 2014, at 15:57, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you selecting the text by word or line? 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:26 AM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello to all
 Has anyone else experienced difficulties using Pages under Mac OS 10.9?
 Whenever highlight text, voice over is reliably stating that is 
 highlighted, yet it seems to not copy all of the text as when I paste it 
 somewhere else, half of it is missing.
 This makes the word processor in my view, useless! as I can’t manipulate 
 text
 hope someone can help please
 regards william
 
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Re: Dock oddities

2014-04-12 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Will,

The Add to dock command is Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-t.

Cheers,

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On 12 Apr 2014, at 14:44, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote:

 hi to all
 
 in mac osx 10.9 we cannot seem to simply put an app on the dock directly from 
 the apps folder, without having to open it first, to right click it, to tell 
 it to stay on dock.
 are we missing something?
 regards
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Re: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed

2014-03-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

You can find all the applications installed on your system in your Applications 
folder. You open this folder with Cmd-Shift-a.

Cheers,

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On 29 Mar 2014, at 22:26, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I downloaded a programme to my Dropbox and from there installed it but I do 
 not know if it is installed.  Following the installation it ended up on 
 Finder.  The programme is a peace of software that works with Audasity to 
 allow export to different formats.
 
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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

Mission Control is a way of managing open applications and organising them into 
Spaces. Since VoiceOver does not take account of Spaces (groups of applications 
used together for a given task), Mission Control is useless to us. So this is 
why I disable Mission Control on my computer.

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On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:04, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:

 fair point but do I not need mission control

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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Yes. Mission Control often interferes, especially while editing a text 
document. It’s all too easy to hit a wrong key from time to time, or not to 
press all the keys of a command at once, and to find that something unexpected 
has happened.

Cheers,

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On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:20, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Thanks Anne.  The experience I have been having, is that a common one for VO 
 users? 
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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Anne Robertson
The Dashboard is the widget manager. I leave the Dashboard short cut enabled.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:21, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:

 What is the function of the dash board?
 - Original Message - From: Ben J Bloomgren bbloomg...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings
 
 
 Is there a way to disable the mission control without disabling the 
 dashboard.
 
 Ben J. Bloomgren
 
 Manager
 CLG Productions
 
 Http://www.clgproductions.com
 
 704-256-0067
 
 Hours: Nonday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern accept 
 holidays.
 
 On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:15, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 Mission Control is a way of managing open applications and organising them 
 into Spaces. Since VoiceOver does not take account of Spaces (groups of 
 applications used together for a given task), Mission Control is useless to 
 us. So this is why I disable Mission Control on my computer.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:04, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 fair point but do I not need mission control
 
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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Henry,

I’m not sure what you mean by the keystrokes for System Preferences. You get to 
System Preferences by going to the Apple menu (VO-m) then going down to System 
Preferences and pressing Return.

Once in System Preferences, interact with the scroll area and you’ll find lots 
of buttons. When you press VO-Space on a button, it opens a pane where you can 
make adjustments.

When you’ve finished with one pane, just press Cmd-l and you’ll see all the 
buttons again.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 12:04, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Ann
 
 Please could you explain the key strokes for system preferences?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
 Sent: 26 March 2014 06:45
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 I'm wondering whether your problem might not be Mission Control. I always
 disable Mission Control as I find it useless for me and it has a tendency to
 interfere with other functions. You can disable it by going into System
 Preferences, Mission Control, and setting all its short cuts to - which is
 the last choice in the pop up menus.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Mar 2014, at 00:05, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 I am wondering if I have problems with my track pad as sometimes I can be
 executing a command and next thing I get time machine or calandar or dash
 board come up and I have not given a command to bring them up.  Trying to
 get back out of them by esc or trying to close them is impossible too.  I
 can't even move to the app I was in by pressing command and tab.  Thoughts
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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Anne Robertson
The Dashboard is where you find all your widgets. Widgets are tiny applications 
that are very simple to use. There are a dozen or more preinstalled widgets 
such as Weather, Contacts, Calculator, etc. The default short cut is F12. You 
find the installed widgets by opening the Dashboard and pressing VO-F2-F2 to 
get the list of widgets. Press Return to open a widget. To close a widget, 
press VO-Cmd-Escape.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 14:04, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:

 What does a widget manager do?

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Re: Giraffe Reader

2014-03-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Leo,

Here’s the e-mail address for Sam Jewell:
 sam.jew...@gmail.com

The Giraffe Reader is not as good as the StandScan Pro as it doesn’t have its 
own lighting. However, it can be used in situations where the StandScan would 
not be feasible, such as in a restaurant to read the menu. The Giraffe Reader 
is much smaller to carry, takes up less space when erected and only weighs 70 g.

The Giraffe Reader could be very helpful to anyone who has trouble positioning 
the iPhone to take pictures of text. I have both the StandScan Pro and the 
Giraffe Reader and consider them complementary.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Mar 2014, at 20:34, Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have been trying to find info on the vendor for the Giraffe Reader and have 
 not had any success.
 
 At this point could someone send me the e-mail for the vendor of Giraffe 
 Reader. I am keen to see how well it would do in comparison to the StandScan, 
 etc.
 
 Thanks in advance for help in this matter.
 
 Leo
 
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Just for clearification. I have got in contact with Sam. Giraffereader works 
 also with IPhone 5s.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 14/03/2014 kl. 21.03 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 I contacted Sam at once yesterday, because I will buy one and try it out, 
 but I have not got any answer. I asked him about the 5s too, but I have 
 heard nothing.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 14/03/2014 kl. 09.15 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Annie,
 
 I have an iPhone 5.
 
 I’m sure Sam would be happy to test the Giraffe Reader with various 
 iPhones if you e-mail him about your concerns.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 19:42, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 Are you using an IPhone 5 or a 5s. I am afraid that these two models 
 needs different distances. I do not know if I am right or wrong. I am 
 sure we need to think about light conditions.
 
 I think I will order one of these giraffe readers. I am doing a lot of 
 experiments taking the pictures with my phone, and recognizing with 
 finereader for the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 13/03/2014 kl. 17.34 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 My Giraffe Reader arrived today. It’s amazingly light and small, and is 
 easy to erect and fold away again. Below my signature is a paper I 
 scanned using TextGrabber with flash on. The paper is an English exam 
 for French nursing students.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 2008, GP figures show. 1 his meanb 070 ui u. 
 850,000 more have diabetes without knowing it. Diabetes UK says the rise 
 is largely fuelled by 
 type 2 diabetes, linked to obesity and unhealthy lifestyles. The survey 
 combined GP data from 
 England^Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to calculate the overall 
 figure of how many people 
 in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes. 
 Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when the 
 insulin-producing cells in 
 the body have been destroyed. 
 Type 2 diabetes develops when the insutin-producing cells in the body 
 are unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is 
 produced does not work properly. 
 Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess in 
 the liver and muscle. 
 If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term 
 complications, such as kidney damage. 
 The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on 
 treating consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart disease 
 and stroke. 
 TEXT 2: HiRh Blood Pressure 
 What Causes High Blood Pressure? 
 The exact causes of high blood pressure are not known, but several 
 factors and conditions may play a role in 
 its development, including: 
 Smoking 
 Being overweight or obese 
 Lack of physical activity 
 Too much salt in the diet 
 Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day) 
 Stress 
 Older age 
 Genetics 
 Family history of high blood pressure 
 Chronic kidney disease 
 Adrenal and thyroid disorders 
 If your blood pressure is extremely high, there may be certain symptoms 
 to look out for, including: 
 Severe headaches 
 Fatigue or confusion 
 Vision problems 
 Chest pain 
 Difficulty breathing 
 Irregular heartbeat 
 Blood in the urine 
 Pounding in your chest, neck, or ears  I ^ 
 llfckfcfc^
 
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Re: Giraffe Reader

2014-03-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Annie,

I have an iPhone 5.

I’m sure Sam would be happy to test the Giraffe Reader with various iPhones if 
you e-mail him about your concerns.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Mar 2014, at 19:42, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Anne.
 
 Are you using an IPhone 5 or a 5s. I am afraid that these two models needs 
 different distances. I do not know if I am right or wrong. I am sure we need 
 to think about light conditions.
 
 I think I will order one of these giraffe readers. I am doing a lot of 
 experiments taking the pictures with my phone, and recognizing with 
 finereader for the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 13/03/2014 kl. 17.34 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 My Giraffe Reader arrived today. It’s amazingly light and small, and is easy 
 to erect and fold away again. Below my signature is a paper I scanned using 
 TextGrabber with flash on. The paper is an English exam for French nursing 
 students.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 2008, GP figures show. 1 his meanb 070 ui u. 
 850,000 more have diabetes without knowing it. Diabetes UK says the rise is 
 largely fuelled by 
 type 2 diabetes, linked to obesity and unhealthy lifestyles. The survey 
 combined GP data from 
 England^Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to calculate the overall figure 
 of how many people 
 in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes. 
 Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when the 
 insulin-producing cells in 
 the body have been destroyed. 
 Type 2 diabetes develops when the insutin-producing cells in the body are 
 unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is produced does 
 not work properly. 
 Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess in the 
 liver and muscle. 
 If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term complications, 
 such as kidney damage. 
 The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on 
 treating consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart disease and 
 stroke. 
 TEXT 2: HiRh Blood Pressure 
 What Causes High Blood Pressure? 
 The exact causes of high blood pressure are not known, but several factors 
 and conditions may play a role in 
 its development, including: 
 Smoking 
 Being overweight or obese 
 Lack of physical activity 
 Too much salt in the diet 
 Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day) 
 Stress 
 Older age 
 Genetics 
 Family history of high blood pressure 
 Chronic kidney disease 
 Adrenal and thyroid disorders 
 If your blood pressure is extremely high, there may be certain symptoms to 
 look out for, including: 
 Severe headaches 
 Fatigue or confusion 
 Vision problems 
 Chest pain 
 Difficulty breathing 
 Irregular heartbeat 
 Blood in the urine 
 Pounding in your chest, neck, or ears  I ^ 
 llfckfcfc^
 
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Giraffe Reader

2014-03-13 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone,

My Giraffe Reader arrived today. It’s amazingly light and small, and is easy to 
erect and fold away again. Below my signature is a paper I scanned using 
TextGrabber with flash on. The paper is an English exam for French nursing 
students.

Cheers,

Anne



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how many people 
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Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when the 
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unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is produced does not 
work properly. 
Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess in the 
liver and muscle. 
If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term complications, 
such as kidney damage. 
The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on treating 
consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart disease and stroke. 
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Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day) 
Stress 
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Genetics 
Family history of high blood pressure 
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Re: Giraffe Reader

2014-03-13 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

Esther has described the Giraffe Reader very well. It is extremely light and 
measures 26 cm by 21 cm or about 10.5 in by 8.5 in. It isn’t as stable as the 
StandScan Pro but is even more portable. I can see myself using it in 
restaurants to read the menu, which would be rather difficult with the 
StandScan Pro. I now have both products and can see uses for both of them.

One thing about the Giraffe Reader is that it was designed for blind users and 
therefore qualifies for free shipping. It takes longer to arrive (mine took 6 
days from across the channel) but it means that you don’t have to add anything 
to the basic price.

I’d recommend using the Giraffe Reader with Prizmo as you can take your hands 
away before the picture is taken, thereby avoiding the risk of shaking the 
iPhone. However, it works for me whether I use Prizmo or TextGrabber.

Cheers,

Anne


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 I'm a bit behind the times here.  What is this product of which you speak? 
 I'm curious.
 
 Take care and have a lovely thursday.

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Re: Giraffe Reader

2014-03-13 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

I think that shipping will take longer to the US as it will be coming from 
England. France, where I live, is just a short hop across the English Channel.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Interesting. eah. I live in the US. lol!  so for me shipping won't take that 
 long. 
 
 thanks for the explanation. i've just behind the times thats all lol!
 
 Take care and be blessed.
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 Esther has described the Giraffe Reader very well. It is extremely light and 
 measures 26 cm by 21 cm or about 10.5 in by 8.5 in. It isn’t as stable as 
 the StandScan Pro but is even more portable. I can see myself using it in 
 restaurants to read the menu, which would be rather difficult with the 
 StandScan Pro. I now have both products and can see uses for both of them.
 
 One thing about the Giraffe Reader is that it was designed for blind users 
 and therefore qualifies for free shipping. It takes longer to arrive (mine 
 took 6 days from across the channel) but it means that you don’t have to add 
 anything to the basic price.
 
 I’d recommend using the Giraffe Reader with Prizmo as you can take your 
 hands away before the picture is taken, thereby avoiding the risk of shaking 
 the iPhone. However, it works for me whether I use Prizmo or TextGrabber.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 19:25, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm a bit behind the times here.  What is this product of which you speak? 
 I'm curious.
 
 Take care and have a lovely thursday.
 
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Re: Giraffe Stand for Use with iPhone and OCR UK Supplier

2014-03-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

I don’t see a price for this product. Have you any further information?

Cheers,

Anne


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 interested.
 https://vimeo.com/88239540
 
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Re: Giraffe Stand for Use with iPhone and OCR UK Supplier

2014-03-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Esther,

It’s more expensive than the StandScan Pro power bundle, but would fit into a 
smaller space, so maybe worth it for the convenience.

I e-mailed Sam Jewell this evening to ask how much he would charge for shipping 
to France, so I’ll pass on the information if he replies to me.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hello Anne and others,
 
 A web search brought up the developer's Twitter account, in which he 
 said,Hey, thanks for the tweet. We're charging $45 at the mo. Website not 
 yet live- give me another 1-2 weeks- meanwhile just ask!.  There's a web 
 site, but only with a sign-up for mail.  The one critical thing I'd note 
 about this is that there is no separate source of illumination with this 
 stand, so you do need to check for sufficient light, and that nothing is 
 blocking the illumination of the page.
 
 The developer's Twitter page is: https://twitter.com/SOJewell
 
 The currently minimal product web page for sign-up is:
 http://giraffereader.launchrock.com/
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 I don’t see a price for this product. Have you any further information?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Mar 2014, at 16:57, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 If you are looking for an OCR solution at a reasonable price, Sam Jewell 
 has designed a stand to get exact distance from camera to the print page.  
 Have a look at Sam's video here.  I put his contact detais below the link 
 for anyone interested.
 https://vimeo.com/88239540
 
 Sam'e e-mail address is below, also his telephone number
 
 sam.jew...@gmail.com
 
 +44 (0) 7932 761772
 
 
 
 
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Re: Giraffe Stand for Use with iPhone and OCR UK Supplier

2014-03-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone,

The price of the Giraffe Reader in the euro zone is €33.25 and will be shipped 
Articles for the blind, so no charge.

I’m ordering one for myself and will report back as soon as I have it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 6 Mar 2014, at 22:03, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Esther,
 
 It’s more expensive than the StandScan Pro power bundle, but would fit into a 
 smaller space, so maybe worth it for the convenience.
 
 I e-mailed Sam Jewell this evening to ask how much he would charge for 
 shipping to France, so I’ll pass on the information if he replies to me.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Mar 2014, at 21:52, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hello Anne and others,
 
 A web search brought up the developer's Twitter account, in which he 
 said,Hey, thanks for the tweet. We're charging $45 at the mo. Website not 
 yet live- give me another 1-2 weeks- meanwhile just ask!.  There's a web 
 site, but only with a sign-up for mail.  The one critical thing I'd note 
 about this is that there is no separate source of illumination with this 
 stand, so you do need to check for sufficient light, and that nothing is 
 blocking the illumination of the page.
 
 The developer's Twitter page is: https://twitter.com/SOJewell
 
 The currently minimal product web page for sign-up is:
 http://giraffereader.launchrock.com/
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 I don’t see a price for this product. Have you any further information?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Mar 2014, at 16:57, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 If you are looking for an OCR solution at a reasonable price, Sam Jewell 
 has designed a stand to get exact distance from camera to the print page.  
 Have a look at Sam's video here.  I put his contact detais below the link 
 for anyone interested.
 https://vimeo.com/88239540
 
 Sam'e e-mail address is below, also his telephone number
 
 sam.jew...@gmail.com
 
 +44 (0) 7932 761772
 
 
 
 
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Re: foot notes and the pages app

2014-03-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

Normally speaking, you can export to DOCX or any other format and the endnotes 
or footnotes will come out fine. There could be occasions when things go wrong, 
but that’s always the case, isn’t it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 28 Feb 2014, at 20:54, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 One more question.  Will these end notes export correctly if I export to .doc 
 or .docs? or what ever else pages offers?
 
 Take care and thanks again. 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 You can’t have both footnotes and endnotes in the same document. However, 
 you can convert footnotes to endnotes. To do this, you need to create a 
 footnote, interact with it, then jump to the Formatter and select the 
 Footnotes radio button.
 
 You can have endnotes for each section or for the whole document.
 
 Footnotes show up on the page containing the link to them, whereas endnotes 
 are either at the end of the section or at the end of the document.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Feb 2014, at 21:19, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lol! That I know how to do. Hehahaha. 
 
 Another  question from a visual perspective.
 
 If I do use both footnotes and end notes what will  they see visually and 
 will they be able to tell what Im doing with out getting confused?  
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 The command to insert footnotes is in the Insert menu. It hasn’t got a 
 short cut, but you could always create one.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Feb 2014, at 20:05, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 thanks.   another question. Is inserting them easy, like do I have to use 
 the inspector to do this? I don't use pages as of yet. I'm thinking of 
 doing my first very rough draft in iText  express  then importing the rtf 
 in to pages and hopping it will read the foot notes, or end notes, or 
 what ever the instructor  wants.  If he wants both then I'll do both. 
 lol! or if I need both I'll do both. depending if I need to insert a long 
 note about what ever in to the paper..
 
 Take care and thanks again. 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 When you insert a footnote, VoiceOver announces it as a link in the 
 document but does not recognise it as such.
 
 When you encounter a footnote in your text, navigate to it and press 
 VO-Space to read the footnote itself.
 To return to your document, interact with the footnote, go to First 
 Visible Item, Bring the mouse and double-click using the track pad. 
 Interact with your document again and you’ll be back on the link to the 
 footnote.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Feb 2014, at 05:31, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey to all. i can't remember if I asked this but it turns out I do need 
 to use foot notes and or end notes  for my paper as I'm using the 
 terabian  style of writing.  is doing this accessible and with out too 
 much hassle in pages if m using the foot notes or end notes depending 
 on what my instructor wants? I'm thinking he might want end notes but 
 I'm asking in both cases just in case. 
 
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Re: Line Spacing and Documents

2014-02-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Line spacing is under Style in the Text Formatter. You have to interact with 
the scroll area to find where to adjust this.

Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Feb 2014, at 23:37, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe double spacing in pages is in the inspector. That's all I know and 
 I'm only guessing from other messages I've seen on this list. 
 
 good luck.
 On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay…
 Probably not worth a longshot but perhaps this could be fixed in the update?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:07 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have searched through the menus but I can’t find any thing  that talks 
 about double spacing in pages.
 On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good Point,, anybody know how to do it in pages? Guess it's also worth 
 noting that it will stick as soon as I do it, but when I save it and go 
 back it won't hold.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Alberto alberto.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not for nothing but have you tried a better word processor text edit is i 
 believe a basic word processor.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:11 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 No matter what I do, I can't get line spacing to stick... I need my
 documents to be double-spaced for school and whenever I try in text
 edit, it won't stick when I save it, that is it always reverts back to
 1.0 instead of 2.0. Using Mavericks 10.9.1, and it seems to lose focus
 a lot too, unrelated but still annoying. Anything I can do to fix
 these?
 Thanks,
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Re: Pages, pasting in a signature file

2014-02-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sandy,

I’m afraid I don’t know of anything like that for IOS. I find Pages on IOS to 
be very inefficient to use, so I haven’t been there for quite a while.

Cheers,

Anne


On 22 Feb 2014, at 10:14, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hello Anne,
 Do you know if there is an accessible app four pasting in a signature file on 
 the iOS platform? This would be so useful for me!
 
 Thanks,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Feb 2014, at 07:45, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 Many of us have an image file containing our scanned signature  that we 
 paste into documents such as letters. It saves us having to find where to 
 sign.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Feb 2014, at 02:41, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you give an example if when you would need to paste in a signature 
 file?  I'm a bit behind the times when it comes to pages and how to use it. 
 lol!
 
 Take care. 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello all Pages users,
 
 The standard way of inserting a signature in Pages is problematic and VO 
 users can’t find out where it is. I’ve found a way to place the signature 
 file correctly.
 
 Navigate to the place where you want to paste your signature. Locate your 
 signature file in the Finder then do Hide others so that the current 
 window is the only one visible on the screen. Mark the file for DragDrop 
 then Cmd-tab back to your Pages document. Drop the file in place and you 
 can then resize it in the normal way.
 
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Re: Pages, pasting in a signature file

2014-02-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Cait,

I don’t know any way of making a signature file without sighted help. You have 
to sign a blank sheet of paper, scan it, then crop the image so that the 
signature takes up all the space.

Cheers,

Anne


On 22 Feb 2014, at 15:00, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, how do you go about making a sig file, please?
 thanks,
 Cait
 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you give an example if when you would need to paste in a signature file? 
  I'm a bit behind the times when it comes to pages and how to use it. lol!
 
 Take care. 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello all Pages users,
 
 The standard way of inserting a signature in Pages is problematic and VO 
 users can’t find out where it is. I’ve found a way to place the signature 
 file correctly.
 
 Navigate to the place where you want to paste your signature. Locate your 
 signature file in the Finder then do Hide others so that the current window 
 is the only one visible on the screen. Mark the file for DragDrop then 
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Re: Pages, pasting in a signature file

2014-02-21 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

Many of us have an image file containing our scanned signature  that we paste 
into documents such as letters. It saves us having to find where to sign.

Cheers,

Anne


On 22 Feb 2014, at 02:41, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you give an example if when you would need to paste in a signature file?  
 I'm a bit behind the times when it comes to pages and how to use it. lol!
 
 Take care. 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello all Pages users,
 
 The standard way of inserting a signature in Pages is problematic and VO 
 users can’t find out where it is. I’ve found a way to place the signature 
 file correctly.
 
 Navigate to the place where you want to paste your signature. Locate your 
 signature file in the Finder then do Hide others so that the current window 
 is the only one visible on the screen. Mark the file for DragDrop then 
 Cmd-tab back to your Pages document. Drop the file in place and you can then 
 resize it in the normal way.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne 
 
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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Frank,

FN-Up Arrow or down arrow is purely visual and does not work for VO users. It 
does not move the insertion point, mouse pointer or VO cursor. That’s why we 
have to use the VO command VO-FN-Up or Down Arrow.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Feb 2014, at 08:28, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote:

 Try FN plus UP ARROW
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Margaret
 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:13 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Shortcut key for page up
 
 
 
 Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in text 
 edit on a mac book pro using mavericks. 
 
 Margaret 
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Re: foot notes and the pages app

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

When you insert a footnote, VoiceOver announces it as a link in the document 
but does not recognise it as such.

When you encounter a footnote in your text, navigate to it and press VO-Space 
to read the footnote itself.
To return to your document, interact with the footnote, go to First Visible 
Item, Bring the mouse and double-click using the track pad. Interact with your 
document again and you’ll be back on the link to the footnote.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Feb 2014, at 05:31, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey to all. i can't remember if I asked this but it turns out I do need to 
 use foot notes and or end notes  for my paper as I'm using the terabian  
 style of writing.  is doing this accessible and with out too much hassle in 
 pages if m using the foot notes or end notes depending on what my instructor 
 wants? I'm thinking he might want end notes but I'm asking in both cases just 
 in case. 
 
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Re: foot notes and the pages app

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

The command to insert footnotes is in the Insert menu. It hasn’t got a short 
cut, but you could always create one.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Feb 2014, at 20:05, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks.   another question. Is inserting them easy, like do I have to use the 
 inspector to do this? I don't use pages as of yet. I'm thinking of doing my 
 first very rough draft in iText  express  then importing the rtf in to pages 
 and hopping it will read the foot notes, or end notes, or what ever the 
 instructor  wants.  If he wants both then I'll do both. lol! or if I need 
 both I'll do both. depending if I need to insert a long note about what ever 
 in to the paper..
 
 Take care and thanks again. 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 When you insert a footnote, VoiceOver announces it as a link in the document 
 but does not recognise it as such.
 
 When you encounter a footnote in your text, navigate to it and press 
 VO-Space to read the footnote itself.
 To return to your document, interact with the footnote, go to First Visible 
 Item, Bring the mouse and double-click using the track pad. Interact with 
 your document again and you’ll be back on the link to the footnote.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Feb 2014, at 05:31, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey to all. i can't remember if I asked this but it turns out I do need to 
 use foot notes and or end notes  for my paper as I'm using the terabian  
 style of writing.  is doing this accessible and with out too much hassle in 
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Re: foot notes and the pages app

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

You can’t have both footnotes and endnotes in the same document. However, you 
can convert footnotes to endnotes. To do this, you need to create a footnote, 
interact with it, then jump to the Formatter and select the Footnotes radio 
button.

You can have endnotes for each section or for the whole document.

Footnotes show up on the page containing the link to them, whereas endnotes are 
either at the end of the section or at the end of the document.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Feb 2014, at 21:19, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lol! That I know how to do. Hehahaha. 
 
 Another  question from a visual perspective.
 
 If I do use both footnotes and end notes what will  they see visually and 
 will they be able to tell what Im doing with out getting confused?  
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 The command to insert footnotes is in the Insert menu. It hasn’t got a short 
 cut, but you could always create one.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Feb 2014, at 20:05, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 thanks.   another question. Is inserting them easy, like do I have to use 
 the inspector to do this? I don't use pages as of yet. I'm thinking of 
 doing my first very rough draft in iText  express  then importing the rtf 
 in to pages and hopping it will read the foot notes, or end notes, or what 
 ever the instructor  wants.  If he wants both then I'll do both. lol! or if 
 I need both I'll do both. depending if I need to insert a long note about 
 what ever in to the paper..
 
 Take care and thanks again. 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sarah,
 
 When you insert a footnote, VoiceOver announces it as a link in the 
 document but does not recognise it as such.
 
 When you encounter a footnote in your text, navigate to it and press 
 VO-Space to read the footnote itself.
 To return to your document, interact with the footnote, go to First 
 Visible Item, Bring the mouse and double-click using the track pad. 
 Interact with your document again and you’ll be back on the link to the 
 footnote.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Feb 2014, at 05:31, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey to all. i can't remember if I asked this but it turns out I do need 
 to use foot notes and or end notes  for my paper as I'm using the 
 terabian  style of writing.  is doing this accessible and with out too 
 much hassle in pages if m using the foot notes or end notes depending on 
 what my instructor wants? I'm thinking he might want end notes but I'm 
 asking in both cases just in case. 
 
 Take care and be blessed.
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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Margaret,

The VO command for Page up or Page down is VO-FN-Up arrow or down arrow. You 
must be interacting with the text for this to work and you need to have 
TextEdit set to Wrap to page. Unfortunately, with Wrap to page set, the normal 
arrow keys without the VO keys no longer work after the first page of a 
document. You can still navigate using the VO keys and all the VO navigation 
commands which you can find by pressing VO-h-h and looking in the Navigation 
and Text menus.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in text 
 edit on a mac book pro using mavericks. 
 
 Margaret 
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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris,

You can set TextEdit to Wrap to window and all the normal arrow keys work, or 
you can use the VO keys, so VO-Down Arrow will read the next line, or you can 
use Quick Nav and set it to Line.

With Wrap to page set, the VO commands for next sentence, next Paragraph, and 
so on work just fine. Selecting text requires you to use the VO command 
VO-Return at the beginning of the selection and the same command at the end.

Changing between Wrap to page and Wrap to window is quick anyway, it’s just 
Cmd-Shift-w.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 15 Feb 2014, at 16:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
wrote:

 So, how then do we navigate line by line if we need to, and the document is 
 over a page long?  That really sucks!
 
 Chris.

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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris,

With Wrap to Page set, the text is displayed one page at a time with a fixed 
width and height. You can look in TextEdit preferences to see how many 
characters wide a page is, and how many lines long. If you press Cmd-Shift-p, 
you can see which paper size is being used.

Wrap to window allows the displayed text to be as wide as the window and the 
text scrolls down as you go through it. This is probably why Page down and page 
up don’t work when wrap to window is set.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Feb 2014, at 21:16, Christopher gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:

 OK, I thought wrap to window was basically the same as saying wrap to page. 
 So, I am confused.  what do these two options basically do both from a 
 Voiceover standpoint, as well as from a visual standpoint?  And what are 
 their differences?  Sorry for the ignorance.  LOL!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Shortcut key for page up
 
 
 Hello Chris,
 
 You can set TextEdit to Wrap to window and all the normal arrow keys work, or 
 you can use the VO keys, so VO-Down Arrow will read the next line, or you can 
 use Quick Nav and set it to Line.
 
 With Wrap to page set, the VO commands for next sentence, next Paragraph, and 
 so on work just fine. Selecting text requires you to use the VO command 
 VO-Return at the beginning of the selection and the same command at the end.
 
 Changing between Wrap to page and Wrap to window is quick anyway, it’s just 
 Cmd-Shift-w.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Feb 2014, at 16:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
 wrote:
 
 So, how then do we navigate line by line if we need to, and the document is 
 over a page long?  That really sucks!
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: language roter on the mac

2014-02-09 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Laurel,

The VO-Cmd-Arrow keys commands stay on the attribute last used. So for me, 
changing languages is just as quick as on the iPhone since I just have to do 
VO-Cmd-Down Arrow to change the language.

Out of curiosity, I tried creating a track pad gesture to Decrease speech 
attribute value, but this only works to toggle between two voices so wouldn’t 
be of use to you.
However, if you like to change other attributes at the same time, you could 
create an activity for each language you use.

Cheers,

Anne

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