Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Rolf, What hole is it missing? The dash in my 83 is cracked bad, the 78 is not cracked at all. I don't think the texture really matters to me. I thought they looked the same. Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:55 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Stop It wont fit. It is missing the hole in the dash. It is also a different texture AND the earlier styles are more prone to cracking. -Rolf On 5/1/2011 10:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craigdiese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
What hole is it missing? Do both dashes have the hole in the top for the HVAC cabin temperature sensor? I think a dash swap is straightforward, but quite the PITA due to all the stuff you have to remove to get it out of the way. Never done a 123, but I've had dashes out of more 107's than I care to think of. (And another one due soon, the windshield wipers are loose, and the HVAC pods are wacky.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM60x Alert
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:37 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone with a OM601/602/603: You should check the throttle linkages in your engine. They were made with plastic ball sockets. ... I highly recommend changing plastic sockets for steel sockets. being stranded because a goofy plastic link fails is easily preventable. Good explanation, Loren. I have been complaining about those stupid plastic sockets for 10 years, since I bought my first 603-engined car. My EPC install is being difficult right now or I would post a picture, but there are other plastic parts in the system that can also fail---it's worth examining the entire mess, from where the accelerator cable leaves the firewall to where the linkages connect to the IP, and replacing any plastic parts along the way on principle25 years of heat and oil splatter under the intake manifold is not good for them. I've had one of the plastic sockets fail on the road, but was able to zip-tie the remains around its matching ball and limp home (the trick is to avoid sudden changes in pedal position that might jerk things loose). One of the only two times that a Mercedes has left me stranded, though, the culprit was one of the other plastic parts in the linkage. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Backup software needed
On 12:59 PM, Fmiser wrote: Allan Streib wrote: If you want to get your hands a *little* dirty you can boot a linux live CD and use the 'dd' utility. dd does a byte-by-byte copy of one disk to another. So you could copy your internal hard drive to an attached drive, for example. partimage is a much safer, friendlier, and more capable partition cloning/backup tool. http://ping.windowsdream.com/ http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/free_imaging_software.html --Philip I really like dropbox! Amazon has a new backup program with a certain amount of free space, too. Its good to have multiples for safety measure! Christy http://dropbox.softlate.com/?gclid=CL6ixe_YyagCFQgPbAodOnkQqQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Backup software needed
Dropbox kicks butt. With my recent move and home sale, it has been a lifesaver due to it's ability to handle large files. I had an inspection report I had to get to my realtor that was far too big to send as an email attachment. I created a public file, emailed her the URL from Dropbox, and within minutes she had the file. I got more space since she signed up, too. I also used it to get copies of manuals to people who bought some of my woodworking equipment. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: On 12:59 PM, Fmiser wrote: Allan Streib wrote: If you want to get your hands a *little* dirty you can boot a linux live CD and use the 'dd' utility. dd does a byte-by-byte copy of one disk to another. So you could copy your internal hard drive to an attached drive, for example. partimage is a much safer, friendlier, and more capable partition cloning/backup tool. http://ping.windowsdream.com/ http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/free_imaging_software.html --Philip I really like dropbox! Amazon has a new backup program with a certain amount of free space, too. Its good to have multiples for safety measure! Christy http://dropbox.softlate.com/?gclid=CL6ixe_YyagCFQgPbAodOnkQqQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Backup software needed
Christy wrote: I really like dropbox! Amazon has a new backup program with a certain amount of free space, too. Its good to have multiples for safety measure! http://dropbox.softlate.com/?gclid=CL6ixe_YyagCFQgPbAodOnkQqQ And, best of all, it works with Linux! Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some CL fun
Cheap at half the price! On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Wow, an honest seller http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2345344787.html I would say collapsed rear springs from the dope he is hauling back north, but it could have some Wilton potential http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2350205269.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
People: No need for violence or the purchase of costly firearms. Dried predator blood seems to be doing the trick, but I shall remain vigilant as the soybeans begin to sprout... Soybeans are the caviar of urban rabbit food. Andrew On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: .22WMR (with scope), a nice bench or chair under a nice shade tree with a breeze, a good book, and a pitcher of iced tea... Oh and some commercial trash bags... Or a good idea of where the local skunks are (they seem to take care of carcasses well enough) Be the mountain... Then reach out and touch them! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. --R On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the camp to die. The stink would be awful! -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 From: John Reamesjwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID:b192579d-a126-4a9c-988b-be32bedde...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle without using any sort of powder... That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Plugs look simple enough to work with after checking them out. I just got looking at my headlights and found out that they have the vacuum adjustment system in them. VERY cool, if I can make them work. Any wise words on that? Thanks again, Mike On May 2, 2011 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL Portland: Heckflosse money pit for someone
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/2357963417.html A nice candidate for a 617 conversion, perhaps? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Michael Canfield wrote: Plugs look simple enough to work with after checking them out. I just got looking at my headlights and found out that they have the vacuum adjustment system in them. VERY cool, if I can make them work. Any wise words on that? Send Rusty what, $80, for the headlight switch with the vac level knob incorporated? Join the Banned list and talk Alex into going to a Swiss Pick-N-Pull to get one? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 07:26:04 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. Yes, I've done it myself. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. The easiest way is to take the cover off a connector and take a close-up picture of the way it was, and then transfer the wires to the new connector. Most likely the old one will be 4 contact and the new one will be six contact. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Portland: Heckflosse money pit for someone
My choice would be a OM602 turbo http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/2357963417.html A nice candidate for a 617 conversion, perhaps? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. When I changed from our '82 240D/3.0's US headlights to Euro headlights, I did not need a soldering iron. All I did was remove the wired contacts from the original 4-pin housing and put them in the correct order in a 6-pin housing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Ok. So the headlights are in. Seems only the passenger side has all of the vacuum parts so I will eventually get them all and make that work. All I had to do was to put the pins in the correct plug like has been said here and add a pigtail to the marker lights so the cool little markers in the headlights work too. A little time consuming but remarkably easy to do. Changing out the grille from the coupe as well as it is a bit nicer. Thinking of painting all of the grey slats black. I think it will look sharp with the Euro lights and black body color. Oh how nice it is to work on a well engineered piece of machinery with nearly no rust after working on my rusty Subaru. Mike On May 2, 2011 4:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. When I changed from our '82 240D/3.0's US headlights to Euro headlights, I did not need a soldering iron. All I did was remove the wired contacts from the original 4-pin housing and put them in the correct order in a 6-pin housing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
I started my search with a '70 220D, moved up to the '76 300D, then a '81 240D and SDL. After reading all the glowing praise for the 124s, I finally bought Snook's '90 300D 2.5T, and quickly decided that it is the ultimate Diesel, in my price range. I now own two of them. They are not all that much more complex than a 123 300D, have less maintenance (no valve adjustments), last just as long (my dily driver has 351,000 miles now), and drive better (a subjective opinion). No, I haven't seen the Start article, so don't know what they used for criteria, but I still humbly disagree. All that having been said, I do hope that the CDI models prove durable and reliable enough that buying one when the depreciation brings them into my purchase range I can drive them. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 16:48:07 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So the headlights are in. Seems only the passenger side has all of the vacuum parts so I will eventually get them all and make that work. All I had to do was to put the pins in the correct plug like has been said here and add a pigtail to the marker lights so the cool little markers in the headlights work too. H ... I'll have to check on the marker lights when my right hand heals up from the surgery and gets back to normal. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
I would probably pick the 90 to 93 300d. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
I have let my membership lapse wish somebody would scan and post that article to the list. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 4:00 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I started my search with a '70 220D, moved up to the '76 300D, then a '81 240D and SDL. After reading all the glowing praise for the 124s, I finally bought Snook's '90 300D 2.5T, and quickly decided that it is the ultimate Diesel, in my price range. I now own two of them. They are not all that much more complex than a 123 300D, have less maintenance (no valve adjustments), last just as long (my dily driver has 351,000 miles now), and drive better (a subjective opinion). No, I haven't seen the Start article, so don't know what they used for criteria, but I still humbly disagree. All that having been said, I do hope that the CDI models prove durable and reliable enough that buying one when the depreciation brings them into my purchase range I can drive them. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. When I changed from our '82 240D/3.0's US headlights to Euro headlights, I did not need a soldering iron. All I did was remove the wired contacts from the original 4-pin housing and put them in the correct order in a 6-pin housing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 17:31:23 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Oh. What is the city light circuit, and how does it work/how is it used? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I,am assuming the city light feature is the little bulbs in the actual headlight. I wired them the same way they were in the coupe and they don't come on. Ran out of time to check the bulbs. Mike On May 2, 2011 5:43 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 17:31:23 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Oh. What is the city light circuit, and how does it work/how is it used? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Dan Penoff wrote: I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Craig wrote: Oh. What is the city light circuit, and how does it work/how is it used? I believe city lights are bright parking lights. That is, enough to locate and identify the front of the car, but really depends on street lights for actual illumination. But maybe I'm remembering wrong... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
Oops Didn't intentionally omit the 123 TD. But Andrew, you are a bit prejudiced huh? (nothing wrong with that!) I always, and still want a 240D 3.0 turbo or 240D 2.5 turbo with a 5 speed. The 123 and 124 both have strengths and weaknesses. Suspension is nicer in the 124, but the 123 is more comfortable for long distance. In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don's car price range
Your price range? How much did that ML set you back? :) Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 5/2/2011 4:00 PM, OK Don wrote: I started my search with a '70 220D, moved up to the '76 300D, then a '81 240D and SDL. After reading all the glowing praise for the 124s, I finally bought Snook's '90 300D 2.5T, and quickly decided that it is the ultimate Diesel, in my price range. I now own two of them. They are not all that much more complex than a 123 300D, have less maintenance (no valve adjustments), last just as long (my dily driver has 351,000 miles now), and drive better (a subjective opinion). No, I haven't seen the Start article, so don't know what they used for criteria, but I still humbly disagree. All that having been said, I do hope that the CDI models prove durable and reliable enough that buying one when the depreciation brings them into my purchase range I can drive them. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
I'd love to find a mid '90s 124 coupe and drop a 2.5 or 3.0 diesel in and Fin-style intercool it Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 5/2/2011 3:06 PM, Dieselhead wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
Dieselhead wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. Heh. That's so silly. Perfect diesel - huh? It depends on what I want it to do, my order of preferences regarding features and functions, etc. There is no one perfect car. I really like the TD for the cargo capacity and the rear suspension. My wife prefers having a trunk to hide stuff in. I like the manual HVAC controls, but like power windows (manual is fine for the drivers door, but the others are hard to reach from the drivers seat). And a turbo. And a manual transmission. I would like the power and economy of a 603, but the durability of a 617. But there isn't a W123 that is big enough for my family. A wagon with the third seat has enough seats, but not enough room for my collection on necessary travel accessories. (tool boxes, spare parts, etc.) And none of the passenger cars are of any real use for hauling firewood, hay, gravel, cows, pigs, chickens, etc. So what is the perfect diesel? That's easy!! It depends! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don's car price range
Hahahahahaha Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Your price range? How much did that ML set you back? :) Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 5/2/2011 4:00 PM, OK Don wrote: I started my search with a '70 220D, moved up to the '76 300D, then a '81 240D and SDL. After reading all the glowing praise for the 124s, I finally bought Snook's '90 300D 2.5T, and quickly decided that it is the ultimate Diesel, in my price range. I now own two of them. They are not all that much more complex than a 123 300D, have less maintenance (no valve adjustments), last just as long (my dily driver has 351,000 miles now), and drive better (a subjective opinion). No, I haven't seen the Start article, so don't know what they used for criteria, but I still humbly disagree. All that having been said, I do hope that the CDI models prove durable and reliable enough that buying one when the depreciation brings them into my purchase range I can drive them. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
Benz Hogs wrote: I'd love to find a mid '90s 124 coupe and drop a 2.5 or 3.0 diesel in and Fin-style intercool it Does the coupe have a lower Cd than the sedan? I was surprised to learn that the sedan was comparable to a W201 EVO I. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don's car price range
$6,000, a new personal high. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Your price range? How much did that ML set you back? :) Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 5/2/2011 4:00 PM, OK Don wrote: I started my search with a '70 220D, moved up to the '76 300D, then a '81 240D and SDL. After reading all the glowing praise for the 124s, I finally bought Snook's '90 300D 2.5T, and quickly decided that it is the ultimate Diesel, in my price range. I now own two of them. They are not all that much more complex than a 123 300D, have less maintenance (no valve adjustments), last just as long (my dily driver has 351,000 miles now), and drive better (a subjective opinion). No, I haven't seen the Start article, so don't know what they used for criteria, but I still humbly disagree. All that having been said, I do hope that the CDI models prove durable and reliable enough that buying one when the depreciation brings them into my purchase range I can drive them. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: In my book the W123 300TD wagon wins hand down. Fun to drive, economical, easy to work on, and highly practical. Andrew 1983 300TD White/blue 1985 300TD Diamond blue/blue On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
Very true - the ML does things the 124s won't. Too bad it's not Diesel! However, my Dad did carry firewood, hay, gravel, cows, pigs, chickens, etc. in the 240D before I got it from him. I took all day to clean the trunk! On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect diesel - huh? It depends on what I want it to do, my order of preferences regarding features and functions, etc. There is no one perfect car. I really like the TD for the cargo capacity and the rear suspension. My wife prefers having a trunk to hide stuff in. I like the manual HVAC controls, but like power windows (manual is fine for the drivers door, but the others are hard to reach from the drivers seat). And a turbo. And a manual transmission. I would like the power and economy of a 603, but the durability of a 617. But there isn't a W123 that is big enough for my family. A wagon with the third seat has enough seats, but not enough room for my collection on necessary travel accessories. (tool boxes, spare parts, etc.) And none of the passenger cars are of any real use for hauling firewood, hay, gravel, cows, pigs, chickens, etc. So what is the perfect diesel? That's easy!! It depends! --Philip -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] city lightst
I believe city lights are bright parking lights. That is, enough to locate and identify the front of the car, but really depends on street lights for actual illumination. But maybe I'm remembering wrong... Not entirely. Euro models use that little bulb in the head light as a parking light because they didn't have a 2-filament bulb in the turn light. Since US models required a side marker light (since 1968), the parking light filament then served that dual function. Back when new Euro lights were purchasable from Bosch or Hella, side lights came in the box with single contact sockets. But, the dual contact sockets plugged right in. I bought several sets back in the day. My first Euro light conversion was my '72 250 and all since then up until the W202 which came with Euro lights and H4s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
My vote is for the 1980 300SD. Mine has around 415,000 miles and still is almost 100% original. It was the last year of the 116 body (remember metal before all the plastic on the 126 and later models). It's easy to work on, lots of engine compartment room, no EGR, and the only big weakness was the Chrysler servo A/C component. It rides great and is wonderful on long trips. It still gets around 28mpg on the road, starts good, etc. This car still has the original engine, trans, exhaust system, etc. The only big replacement was my wife went temporarily insane about 10 years ago and had the leather and pads replaced, still looks great, but cost a bunch. Otherwise, it's fuel and oil changes. I wouldn't swap the engine or change the things on this car. It was great as built with minimal electronics to foul the works. So, that's my vote. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
Well, Actually I think the quest was for a really nice 123 300D, but I only quoted the title. Dieselhead wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. Heh. That's so silly. Perfect diesel - huh? It depends on what I want it to do, my order of preferences regarding features and functions, etc. There is no one perfect car. I really like the TD for the cargo capacity and the rear suspension. My wife prefers having a trunk to hide stuff in. I like the manual HVAC controls, but like power windows (manual is fine for the drivers door, but the others are hard to reach from the drivers seat). And a turbo. And a manual transmission. I would like the power and economy of a 603, but the durability of a 617. But there isn't a W123 that is big enough for my family. A wagon with the third seat has enough seats, but not enough room for my collection on necessary travel accessories. (tool boxes, spare parts, etc.) And none of the passenger cars are of any real use for hauling firewood, hay, gravel, cows, pigs, chickens, etc. So what is the perfect diesel? That's easy!! It depends! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Backup software needed
I agree, Dropbox is a great service, but IIRC the original request was for software to clone a hard drive. Dropbox won't do that. Allan Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Dropbox kicks butt. With my recent move and home sale, it has been a lifesaver due to it's ability to handle large files. I had an inspection report I had to get to my realtor that was far too big to send as an email attachment. I created a public file, emailed her the URL from Dropbox, and within minutes she had the file. I got more space since she signed up, too. I also used it to get copies of manuals to people who bought some of my woodworking equipment. Dan Sent from my iPod -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Portland: Heckflosse money pit for someone
Hard to tell for sure from those photos but that looks like rust all the way from the front to the rear fenders. No major rust issues = Hasn't broken in two yet ??? Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/2357963417.html A nice candidate for a 617 conversion, perhaps? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Window aggravation
So the driver's window on my '84 190D quit going down yesterday. It'd clicked at the top of its range for awhile (in fact this regulator clicked in the other car too) and finally quit. Rusty tells me he has to know which regulator I have before he can order one and it would appear its got to come out to find that information. Kent Bergsma has done some pretty good window regulator videos on Youtube but my $#%@! early 201 has a window regulator unlike all 3 in his videos, its more like a 123 regulator than a 201 but its got a couple added pieces that give me hell. I got it out (Brose BTW), the problem is obvious, the last 3 teeth off the regulator are missing(!) thats clearly what the clicking was... The gear on the motor looks fine, I think this was a crappy regulator from the beginning as it always clicked. I should give my Indy hell but to his credit its been 4+ years in 2 different cars... Anyway I got it back in but it won't lift the window all the way and its clearly binding somewhere, I think its the rear pad thats catching but I really can't tell why. Any words of wisdom on this? Seems like it should be easier than it is. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
Depends on what you're looking for really. I love me some 240D simplicity. I also really like the 201 handling and a 5spd to row your own with. My '81 300TD had the smoothest suspension I've ever had the pleasure to drive and I know the 124 was more refined so I can see the '87 300TD as a great choice... I took my winter weight out of the '84 190D yesterday and today I see that either the fuel gauge has broken or my economy has jumped considerably. I was averaging around 34mpg all winter (7,000 miles so just enough to start to draw a conclusion...) I'll change to summer tires tomorrow, I need to get 2 replaced first, that should buy me another 1 or 2 mpg. Hopefully this car will come back up where my '85 used to be. With winter tires the '85 did around 38mpg and ~2mpg better on summer tires. The 5spd seems to be worth 4 or 5 mpg. My wife says as much as she likes the 240D she wants me to find another 201. -Curt Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:06:01 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel Message-ID: a0624080ec9e4be6fd2f2@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel
And just today I was thinking I'd like to find a CJ5 and put a 2.5l diesel in it! I'd forgo the Finn mods, I don't need that extra power... -Curt Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:56:35 -0500 From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Search for the Perfect Diesel Message-ID: 4dbf36a3.2040...@gulseth.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'd love to find a mid '90s 124 coupe and drop a 2.5 or 3.0 diesel in and Fin-style intercool it Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 5/2/2011 3:06 PM, Dieselhead wrote: May/June issue of the Star has an article about searching for the perfect Diesel. It turned out to be a 123 300D That is a hard to beat model, but I'd still pick an SDL as the best Diesel, with the 87 TD and 87 300D as contenders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crash 300D
Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D
So she rear ended somebody and it was her fault, right? you carry full coverage on a 84 300d with 300k miles? Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D
Btw the insurance company does not care about new parts, those are required for the to run Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D
Ouch! But I gather the 300D did its job and protected your daughter. Best way to establish value is to find actual sales in the area ($) you think it is worth. Second best : It is also good to look at ads in the back of the Star for high values. And autotrader, cars.com or fleabay for what Kleb calls crack hads with high value. My insco took three fleabay ads as credible valuation that the car was worth more than $4500 worth of repairs. YMMV Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D
Mike Esh michael...@me.com writes: Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike My experience is that with auto insurance, for a total loss they will pretty readily make an offer that's about at book value or maybe a bit more. Which is fine if the car is new enough that there is a reasonable book value to be found. For a 27 year old car, no such luck. They'll probably value the car a bit over its scrap value, which is why I only carry liability on my old cars; I'm willing to accept the risk of a total loss on a car that I could replace for a couple of thousand, tops. However, there are a few online classic car pricing guides. I tried NADA's Classic Car guide and for my 1983 300D it came up with the following pricing: Low Retail: $4,750 Average Retail: $6,600 High Retail: $8,850 These numbers seem to me to be pure fantasy, but I'd run the quote for your car and take it in what can you lose? Also try to document any other recent sales or ads, e.g. eBay, Craigslist, etc. Good luck. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D
Local ads for cars in similar condition. Insurance companies use classified ads for older cars and will lowball you with prices from every junk car in your area. Show them ads for similar cars and prove your point with photos and receipts. Mike On May 2, 2011 10:29 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
