[MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Hey thanks, G Mann, for that suggestion. It sounds like it would do the trick and come in under budget. If you think you hear your ol' tractor goin', its probably just me trying your remedy. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8211 (20130409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
Some interesting stories on Planet Money last week about welfare and disability, and how the number of people on SSI has ballooned over the past 10-15 years. Why? Because the SSA doesn't really challenge applicants, especially those who hire legal representation to make their claim. This has made some law firms literally billions of dollars at our expense. Add to this that the states like to move people from welfare to disability, because SSI is a Federal program while welfare is partially funded by the state. Dan On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: There is an inertial damper on getting poor employees out of government, but there is also the up or out process that a few agencies practice. If you are unable to proceed up the ladder within a certain time period, you get to leave. Harsh, but effective. Around Seattle area, the firefighters are choosing to go out on disability than face forced retirement. This allows them to get a bit less each month, but it is all tax free. clay In one of the rural areas in one of the peoples republic states I used to live in, the major occupation and pastime was trying to get on disability...free ride and plenty of time to grow weed. The second most popular pastime was getting on welfare/unemployment. Plenty of time to grow weed, but requires a few minutes each week to maintain. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
Scott Ritchey wrote: Third, people have access to entitlement programs that are better than what they can earn working. I saw a graph of total available resources vs earned income for a single parent, and they needed salary and benefits worth $60k+ to match their best standard of living from being low income. So, the programs intended to help the poor are actually programs to push the poor into staying poor, except for the talented few who can jump up to the income levels above median. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake calipers
Do you have any in far proximity? --R On 4/9/13 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I have two dealers in relatively close proximity to me, however, I have only dealt with one of them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake calipers
Sure do. Lots of them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you have any in far proximity? --R On 4/9/13 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I have two dealers in relatively close proximity to me, however, I have only dealt with one of them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] watering can
Like I said, galvanized. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] watering can i'd just solder the holes carefully with a torch, from the outside, using plumbers flux and plumbing solder It's galvanized, is it not? That's going to be an issue. Vaporized zinc is poisonous. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
'Thought about putting a bit of gravel in can and mounting it onto back of the JD mower (garden tractor) in coupla days; 'may do that, but I haven't noticed that the mower/tractor vibrates much - it may, and I just haven't noticed it. 'Guess I could make one of the MB's run a little rough and mount the can on top of the engine and let it sit and idle all afternoon. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:01 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Hey thanks, G Mann, for that suggestion. It sounds like it would do the trick and come in under budget. If you think you hear your ol' tractor goin', its probably just me trying your remedy. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8211 (20130409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake calipers
Me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear brake calipers Sure do. Lots of them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you have any in far proximity? --R On 4/9/13 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I have two dealers in relatively close proximity to me, however, I have only dealt with one of them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
I heard those - and in working in the medical profession - I was appaled at the idea that these docs were making the call based not on disability but on job prospects. I wonder if the federalies have tracked the doc on the show down and arrested him yet On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Some interesting stories on Planet Money last week about welfare and disability, and how the number of people on SSI has ballooned over the past 10-15 years. Why? Because the SSA doesn't really challenge applicants, especially those who hire legal representation to make their claim. This has made some law firms literally billions of dollars at our expense. Add to this that the states like to move people from welfare to disability, because SSI is a Federal program while welfare is partially funded by the state. Dan On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: There is an inertial damper on getting poor employees out of government, but there is also the up or out process that a few agencies practice. If you are unable to proceed up the ladder within a certain time period, you get to leave. Harsh, but effective. Around Seattle area, the firefighters are choosing to go out on disability than face forced retirement. This allows them to get a bit less each month, but it is all tax free. clay In one of the rural areas in one of the peoples republic states I used to live in, the major occupation and pastime was trying to get on disability...free ride and plenty of time to grow weed. The second most popular pastime was getting on welfare/unemployment. Plenty of time to grow weed, but requires a few minutes each week to maintain. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Lots of old homes built this way; surely they do not expect the owner to bulldoze the house and rebuild for such a repair that is fairly common. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: What you have described is known here as a balloon framed structure, which BTW is not allowed by building code anywhere I know of if, as you describe, the studs are two story. The fix you propose is less than an perfect fix, but likely your only option. I would suggest you clean, glue and clamp the sister stud onto the solid portion of the existing stud with good overlap to engage as much structure as possible. Also.. check your local building codes to see if such repair is allowed.. Might be an insurance concern? Grant... On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a cottage. Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted bottom section, splicing in a new piece of stud and then sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Yes this was common practice for many years. Use treated lumber, which is relatively cheap, so a little overbuilding is fairly inexpensive compared to the risk being averted. Good Luck On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: Lots of old homes built this way; surely they do not expect the owner to bulldoze the house and rebuild for such a repair that is fairly common. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: What you have described is known here as a balloon framed structure, which BTW is not allowed by building code anywhere I know of if, as you describe, the studs are two story. The fix you propose is less than an perfect fix, but likely your only option. I would suggest you clean, glue and clamp the sister stud onto the solid portion of the existing stud with good overlap to engage as much structure as possible. Also.. check your local building codes to see if such repair is allowed.. Might be an insurance concern? Grant... On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a cottage. Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted bottom section, splicing in a new piece of stud and then sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Building question
It would be worthwhile to add some fire-blocking in the walls if you have the sheetrock open. Balloon framing allows flames to climb right up to the attic whereas the newer platform framing stops it (at least for awhile). --R On 4/10/13 12:05 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Lots of old homes built this way; surely they do not expect the owner to bulldoze the house and rebuild for such a repair that is fairly common. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: What you have described is known here as a balloon framed structure, which BTW is not allowed by building code anywhere I know of if, as you describe, the studs are two story. The fix you propose is less than an perfect fix, but likely your only option. I would suggest you clean, glue and clamp the sister stud onto the solid portion of the existing stud with good overlap to engage as much structure as possible. Also.. check your local building codes to see if such repair is allowed.. Might be an insurance concern? Grant... On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a cottage. Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted bottom section, splicing in a new piece of stud and then sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
We go through this with Coleman lanterns all the time. They get water in them from condensation or whatever and get rusty. In most places just cleaning isn't enough because it'll rust again. Get the fuel tank sealer kit from POR15, use the marine clean and metal ready to get the tank good and clean. DON'T open the can of sealer. Take 2 sheet metal screws with rubber gaskets (probably have to make the gaskets) and run 'em into the top of the cap. Now your can is easily resealable. Put about an ounce (maybe 1/4 can) into the tank (follow all the other instructions up to this point), slosh it all around good, let it dry for a couple days, no added heat, that'll make it bubble. Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll have a like-new mower... -Curt Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:20:01 -0700 From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: 50F1C19A6ECA4BC4B8377FFEB175BC59@JerryPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 This post reminds me of a problem I have been stewing about. I have an old McLane (the actual brand is Montgomery-Ward) front-throw reel mower which has been sitting out in the back yard unused and in the weather because it became difficult to start last year. It looks like the one in this link, except you have to mentally erase all the paint and imagine how it would look after years of hard livin'. http://www.mclanemower.com/reel_mowers.htm In the process of cleaning the carb and replacing the old diaphragm, I discovered that the gas tank is kinda rusty inside. Its really hard get any access inside there, but I did put in some loose hardware and shook it about with some gasoline, then poured out the rusty mixture. Lathered, rinsed, repeated several times. That was two months ago. (I suppose all the rust I removed has re-established itself due to this recent neglect.) I plan to shake it out again, but I am seeking advice in case someone has had some experience cleaning out a tank like this. Looking at the prices of POR 15, I don't think this old machine justifies spending that much money. Would drying it out, then keeping a mixture of motor oil and gas keep the rust to a minimum? Of course, I realize the correct solution is to replace the tank, but that ain't gonna happen. The most I would spend would a couple of dollars. Any suggestions? Jerry 82 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
In a former life I fired a white, male GS13 for misconduct. It was a very clear-cut case of misconduct. Anyway, this firing process took over two years for all the reviews and administrative hearings at the state and Federal level. I suspect that if I had changed jobs to a different location (and couldn't appear at the hearings) he would have been reinstated. Scott On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: There is an inertial damper on getting poor employees out of government, but there is also the up or out process that a few agencies practice. If you are unable to proceed up the ladder within a certain time period, you get to leave. Harsh, but effective. Around Seattle area, the firefighters are choosing to go out on disability than face forced retirement. This allows them to get a bit less each month, but it is all tax free. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
I heard the same story. You're leaving out the part where many of the people have literally no other job skills and even if they did there are no jobs for them anywhere nearby... Still, its crazy that the government doesn't at all challenge the cases. Apparently one of the guys from Axe Men got caught a couple years ago because he was out on disability and now logging. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:07:48 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day Message-ID: 8ef8cc6c-4c7d-4999-afe3-9b9e38f98...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some interesting stories on Planet Money last week about welfare and disability, and how the number of people on SSI has ballooned over the past 10-15 years. Why? Because the SSA doesn't really challenge applicants, especially those who hire legal representation to make their claim. This has made some law firms literally billions of dollars at our expense. Add to this that the states like to move people from welfare to disability, because SSI is a Federal program while welfare is partially funded by the state. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
I had occasion a few years ago to sit with a circuit judge from KY whose specialty was labor cases. Most of her business dealt with disability claims. The stories she related about the culture of disability in KY, especially in the eastern part, were frightening, at least to anyone who might have an interest in how their tax money is spent (and that is now only half of the *working* population now). Or I guess it should, some won't see any problems there... The main thing was that most of the people she ran into in her work were quite capable of working, no real physical issues that would impede that. Their life strategy was to get a job either in the gummint (easiest to bail from) or the coal mines or a factory or something -- these people were not highly, or even lowly, educated, but they had figured out the system -- then after a couple of years to have some disabling accident or injury or something so they could then claim disability. There were plenty of docs (I could give you a description of most of these, but let's just say in underserved areas your average doc is not a graduate of a US medical school) who had figured out their angle and could get paid well by the state or fed or whomever to certify them (not paid related to the disability, but just for the exams and the drugs and such) as disabled. Of course, lots of drugs (oxycontin preferred) was a part of this treatment as well, which provided another source of income for both the doc and the patient,whose severe pain required considerable dosing. After being disabled they then conduct their oxy bidness, go hunting and fishing and whatever, make a few $$ here and there... In short, she was appalled at the depth and breadth of the scams, but could not address much other than the cases she saw. She was not a sympathetic judge, or willing to bend to expediency. My wife remarked on this topic the other night. She said she gets lots of (cancer) patients whose first thing in her exam/consult is to whip out the disability papers to get her to sign. She refuses as most folks at the point she sees them are still able to work (or not, whatever) as the illness is not at the point where they are disabled. And by the time they get to that point, they don't usually have the time to deal with the process so it becomes rather moot. --R On 4/10/13 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I heard the same story. You're leaving out the part where many of the people have literally no other job skills and even if they did there are no jobs for them anywhere nearby... Still, its crazy that the government doesn't at all challenge the cases. Apparently one of the guys from Axe Men got caught a couple years ago because he was out on disability and now logging. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:07:48 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day Message-ID: 8ef8cc6c-4c7d-4999-afe3-9b9e38f98...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some interesting stories on Planet Money last week about welfare and disability, and how the number of people on SSI has ballooned over the past 10-15 years. Why? Because the SSA doesn't really challenge applicants, especially those who hire legal representation to make their claim. This has made some law firms literally billions of dollars at our expense. Add to this that the states like to move people from welfare to disability, because SSI is a Federal program while welfare is partially funded by the state. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pirate Bay moving to Greenland
Inuit all along: Pirate Bay flees Sweden for Greenland Tip-off of imminent domain seizures sends pirates scurrying The Pirate Bay has set sail for Greenland after receiving a tip-off suggesting the Swedish authorities were about to seize its current domain. Owners of the world's largest file-sharing site lifted anchor on Tuesday night and moved from their current address to the .gl domain in a bid to evade Swedish cyber-cops. British filesharers could benefit from the change, which comes with a new IP address, because most ISPs now block the current server. However, a quick and unscientific test by El Reg revealed that Virgin Media, which opposed blocking TPB in the first place, still does not allow customers to access the site. The owners of the site, which temporarily renamed itself The Hydra Bay back in February in tribute to the site's constant sprouting of new heads, seem intent on keeping it going. They vowed to keep playing whack-a-mole with the authorities. For now though, the .gl site looks to be permanent. This is The Pirate Bay's second move in just over a year. In 2012, it moved from the .org domain in a bid to avoid the attentions of the American authorities. Speaking to TorrentFreak, a TPB insider revealed fears that the Swedish authorities were about to strike in the hope of removing the website from the internet for good. The threats are not merely idle. Last year, a Swedish court ordered the seizure of the p2ptv.se domain, which offered free streams of hockey and football matches (report - in Swedish). The owners of that site are launching an appeal. The prosecutor in the case suggested the same process could be used to sink The Pirate Bay for good. A visit to TPB reveals that little has changed. Anyone accessing the site is automatically redirected to the new domain and the same options are still available. In February this year, The Pirate Bay in Sweden handed over responsibility for the site to colleagues in Norway and Spain. Although the site is largely cloud-based - hosted on virtual machines in two countries using separate cloud networks - the Swedish Pirate Party were threatened with legal action and decided to stop using its servers to host the file-sharing site. A statement said: As some of you may know, we are 99% cloud based today. We have though, enjoyed the great company of the swedish Pirate party. As they have gotten a severe legal threat (that will cost a lot to defend against) we've taken the decision to move on to Norway and Spain. According to Google, there have been 870,923 requests to remove the Pirate Bay from its listings. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/10/pirate_bay_greenland/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fusion engine to Mars in 30 days
NASA-backed fusion engine could cut Mars trip down to 30 days NASA, and plenty of private individuals, want to put mankind on Mars. Now a team at the University of Washington, funded by the space agency, is about to start building a fusion engine that could get humans there in just 30 days and make other forms of space travel obsolete. Using existing rocket fuels, it's nearly impossible for humans to explore much beyond Earth, said lead researcher John Slough, a UW research associate professor of aeronautics and astronautics in a statement. We are hoping to give us a much more powerful source of energy in space that could eventually lead to making interplanetary travel commonplace. The proposed Fusion Driven Rocket (FDR) is a 150-ton system that uses magnetism to compress lithium or aluminum metal bands around a deuterium-tritium fuel pellet to initiate fusion. The resultant microsecond reaction forces the propellant mass out at 30 kilometers per second, and would be able to pulse every minute or so and not cause g-force damage to the spacecraft's occupants. The spent fuel pellet is ejected behind the motor to provide propulsion, and because the whole process is magnetically controlled there's relatively little wear and tear on the engines. A pellet the size of a grain of sand would provide the same propellant as a gallon of conventional rocket fuel. All this requires electrical power to control and contain the reaction, but Anthony Pancokti, an advanced propulsion engineer with the team, told The Register that the advantages of magnetic inertial confinement fusion (over that requiring massive lasers, for example) mean that the spacecraft could power itself on solar energy alone. It's very scalable; we can achieve fusion at a much smaller scale, he said. We could run the designed engine off 200KW of solar panels, which is about the same power as generated by the panels around the International Space Station Using the FDR system, flight times to the Red Planet could take between 30 and 90 days, compared to over eight months that it took to send the Curiosity rover to Mars. The 30-day trip would require three days of engine operation to get the spacecraft up to speed and another three to slow it down into orbit around Mars. Such a motor would also be considerably cheaper to launch than a chemical rocket system, since there is much less fuel to hoist out of the gravity well before it starts a trip. The proposed design for a 150-ton spacecraft would allow around a third of that mass to be used for cargo - human or otherwise - and the reduced flight time would reduce the exposure of astronauts to the effects of solar radiation. Many space missions use aerobraking - using the friction of a planet's atmosphere to slow down - as a way of saving the propellant. This drive, however, is so efficient that aerobraking makes little sense, since the weight of the shielding needed for the maneuver is greater than the propellant FDR needs to slow down. The FDR fusion drive prototype in a Washington lab The team has tested all the parts of the FDR in the lab, and is now going to start building a fully working engine that brings these elements together, thanks to funding from NASA's Innovative Advanced Concepts Program, which aims to fund long-term space technology. The FDR is one of only ten projects to get Stage Two funding from the program. This $600,000 award will provide the proof-of-concept FDR system over the next 18 months, and a working spacecraft would be ready as soon as 2020, Pancokti predicted - but if NASA wanted to throw money at the project, this timescale could be cut. Given the tight financial strictures of the US government this is unlikely, but the FDR engine has the potential to make chemical or ion drives for spacecraft as obsolete as the steam engine for earth-bound transportation. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/10/nasa_fusion_engine_fast_mars_trip/ Will this thing work? Comment? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period. 'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more. Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
You could go the old-fashioned route and patch it up with lead or solder. --R On 4/10/13 5:01 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period. 'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more. Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sndy Tale - DYE-3
Wilton wrote: UnderGROUND or underICE? In the snow. Title: The U.S. Army's Top Secret Arctic City Under the Ice! Camp Century Restored Dec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ujx_pND9wg mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
Dan wrote: Some interesting stories on Planet Money last week about welfare and disability... The same story was on This American Life a couple weeks ago: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/490/trends-with-benefits Interesting presentation. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
Curt wrote: I think yours must be a problem of location. My dad un-retired 6 years ago. Got a job as a landfill manager making more money than he had been making as a PE. That is a great story. I think my tenure is over, partially by choice, partially by age, partially by concern for other people. If it is at all true that there are many young people without jobs and college debt, I would rather have them take the seat I occupied during the years I put lines on paper. Hanford would have been a good place to retire, had we done that route of career. I started my employment in the engineering field as a pencil pusher and exited (laid off) as a pencil pusher (AutoCAD), physics/math degree. I liked what I did, we had fun in life, but this planet is too messed up to desire any more of this jazz. I consider the years of employment that I knew to be somewhat of a haze out of which I have escaped. No income, tiny tiny savings, not old enuf for 'entitlement' retirement, no retirement, old, decrepit - it's time to be happy to be gone, really, but that is not a call I make myself, so I hang around. The haze that income and retirement is required for this american life is a trap we refused 40 years ago, which has come to roost, so be it. Let the hippies die in the dark. mao mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Thanks all for the insightful input. I ended up taking the splice and scab approach. I used wood glue and plenty of screws on both sides and PT lumber. Just below the ceiling there is a one by oriented in an upright podition which sits in a notched recess in the stud. The second story floor joists then are affixed to the stud and rest on the one by. I extended the scab up to this one by so some level of floor joist support is gained. As far as blocking for fire protection- there is no point since the ceiling is the floor with exposed joists. Not a very significant structure but it does have charm. A very typical 1930s Maine cottage with a whooping 600 sq feet! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this was common practice for many years. Use treated lumber, which is relatively cheap, so a little overbuilding is fairly inexpensive compared to the risk being averted. Good Luck On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: Lots of old homes built this way; surely they do not expect the owner to bulldoze the house and rebuild for such a repair that is fairly common. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: What you have described is known here as a balloon framed structure, which BTW is not allowed by building code anywhere I know of if, as you describe, the studs are two story. The fix you propose is less than an perfect fix, but likely your only option. I would suggest you clean, glue and clamp the sister stud onto the solid portion of the existing stud with good overlap to engage as much structure as possible. Also.. check your local building codes to see if such repair is allowed.. Might be an insurance concern? Grant... On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a cottage. Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted bottom section, splicing in a new piece of stud and then sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a cabinet across the room. 'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila! Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a project, but when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I can't find them! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a cabinet across the room. 'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila! Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Or can't find when I need it, go buy another one, then find the first one. ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a project, but when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I can't find them! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a cabinet across the room. 'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila! Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
I saw a graph of total available resources vs earned income for a single parent, and they needed salary and benefits worth $60k+ to match their best standard of living from being low income. So, the programs intended to help the poor are actually programs to push the poor into staying poor, except for the talented few who can jump up to the income levels above median. Mitch. by design ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
'Gave my soldering stuff to BIL several years ago when my tremor got so bad I thought I'd never be able to use it again. 'Had 5 or 6 years now with very little tremor; some returning last 2 or 3 months. Just hope it doesn't get really bad again. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can You could go the old-fashioned route and patch it up with lead or solder. --R On 4/10/13 5:01 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period. 'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more. Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll have a like-new mower... -Curt Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Great! Remember what I told the other poster about using 2 sheet metal screws with rubber gaskets, otherwise you'll waste a lot of the POR15. You'll only need a little for this project. I've got a can of POR15 gas tank sealer on my workbench that is, I think, 2 years old. I originally bought it to seal a lantern. I think its done 3 lanterns now (I only seal the bottom which is the point most likely to rust) and a lawn tractor gas tank... -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:58:44 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: C6A92A6667BA4B3296ED2B088096BE4A@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at camp and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody want a camp stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman. 1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965 1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade 2x motorcycles 5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose) 1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really count the Farmall Super M circa 1952 oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a pretty good job but is rather forgettable. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:49:42 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: a06240868cd8bb8b9657d@[192.168.0.108] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll have a like-new mower... -Curt Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Quite thin, like most paint. You could pour a small amount into a cup and let it harden for ten minutes. You could also take some fabric or fiberglass (might be some fabric in the kit? Usually looks like a little hanky), paint some POR15 on the fabric and then hold that over the hole. A really swanky fix would involve a piece of fiberglass mat exactly the size of the bottom of the can... -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:01:36 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: 72EBE5980F264419A07C42B0B0F71D76@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response 'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period. 'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more. Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a pretty good job but is rather forgettable. -Curt So, I exaggerated a bit. All in envious good nature lotsa good toys! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] soldering galvanized can
Here are some tips on soldering galvanized metal http://www.welding-advisers.com/Joining-galvanized.html they say WELDING it might make you ill but not deal you might try soldering it with a large electric soldering iron or with a copper heat on the stove one you might want to do it outside or wear a respirator or a scott air pac as i sometimes do when handling poisons i'd just do it with a torch outside and not breath the fumes THESE people http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9223 seem to solder galvanized metal all the time thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
I've only got 1 Coleman, a circa 1974 dual mantle that has been converted to kero. I also have a somewhat new-ish (maybe 1980's?) 2 burner stove. I wouldn't mind having a sportster tho. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 10, 2013, at 21:16, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at camp and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody want a camp stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman. 1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965 1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade 2x motorcycles 5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose) 1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really count the Farmall Super M circa 1952 oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a pretty good job but is rather forgettable. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:49:42 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: a06240868cd8bb8b9657d@[192.168.0.108] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll have a like-new mower... -Curt Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
All I have is a Versatrailer.Well, I do have a junk knockoff stove. But nothing else Coleman. I've only got 1 Coleman, a circa 1974 dual mantle that has been converted to kero. I also have a somewhat new-ish (maybe 1980's?) 2 burner stove. I wouldn't mind having a sportster tho. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
Trying to fire clearly abusive cops who do very naughty things around Seattle is nigh impossible. They got a peepee whack, then they get labor rep involved, make a stink in court, and end up back on the job, ready to kick the feces out of yet another welfare child. clay On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: In a former life I fired a white, male GS13 for misconduct. It was a very clear-cut case of misconduct. Anyway, this firing process took over two years for all the reviews and administrative hearings at the state and Federal level. I suspect that if I had changed jobs to a different location (and couldn't appear at the hearings) he would have been reinstated. Scott On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: There is an inertial damper on getting poor employees out of government, but there is also the up or out process that a few agencies practice. If you are unable to proceed up the ladder within a certain time period, you get to leave. Harsh, but effective. Around Seattle area, the firefighters are choosing to go out on disability than face forced retirement. This allows them to get a bit less each month, but it is all tax free. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day
I know we all want a cleansing of the misdeeds of socialist programs and abuses of public pension plans. As well as better management of defense department purchasing programs. There will be a bit of an uproar and some hullabaloo, and it will die down, the same way the big gun control hype has. clay On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I heard the same story. You're leaving out the part where many of the people have literally no other job skills and even if they did there are no jobs for them anywhere nearby... Still, its crazy that the government doesn't at all challenge the cases. Apparently one of the guys from Axe Men got caught a couple years ago because he was out on disability and now logging. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:07:48 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day Message-ID: 8ef8cc6c-4c7d-4999-afe3-9b9e38f98...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some interesting stories on Planet Money last week about welfare and disability, and how the number of people on SSI has ballooned over the past 10-15 years. Why? Because the SSA doesn't really challenge applicants, especially those who hire legal representation to make their claim. This has made some law firms literally billions of dollars at our expense. Add to this that the states like to move people from welfare to disability, because SSI is a Federal program while welfare is partially funded by the state. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
I have some random, close-weave fiberglass; I'll use very small pieces on the holes as necessary. Bottom is too uneven for piece on entire bottom. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Quite thin, like most paint. You could pour a small amount into a cup and let it harden for ten minutes. You could also take some fabric or fiberglass (might be some fabric in the kit? Usually looks like a little hanky), paint some POR15 on the fabric and then hold that over the hole. A really swanky fix would involve a piece of fiberglass mat exactly the size of the bottom of the can... -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:01:36 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: 72EBE5980F264419A07C42B0B0F71D76@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response 'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period. 'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more. Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
That is my M.O. Keep finding the stuff I already had in the parts area, then it goes missing, but ends up just where I left it. In the mean time, the other stuff goes misplaces, and I am on the hunt for more AWOL parts clay On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:43 PM, WILTON wrote: Or can't find when I need it, go buy another one, then find the first one. ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a project, but when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I can't find them! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a cabinet across the room. 'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila! Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Guess what I just found!! I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Clean loose scale when dry. Paint the inside with POR 15. After dry, recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do. Then paint with galvanized paint You may want to paint the underside too. OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel. We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one shown in the following link: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then). Son # 1 shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem. SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years. Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for another 50 years? Suggestions, tips? TIA Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
instructions call for putting an initial coating of POR, then soak the patch material (fiberglass works) and using the brush, mate it to the lower coat. Give it a few minutes to set up/tack and paint more layers. Paint over it when done clay On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Quite thin, like most paint. You could pour a small amount into a cup and let it harden for ten minutes. You could also take some fabric or fiberglass (might be some fabric in the kit? Usually looks like a little hanky), paint some POR15 on the fabric and then hold that over the hole. A really swanky fix would involve a piece of fiberglass mat exactly the size of the bottom of the can... -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:01:36 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: 72EBE5980F264419A07C42B0B0F71D76@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response 'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period. 'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more. Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Dieselhead wrote: - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan to restore? For me, the original intent was to restore or repair things and continue to use them, but the fact is that I have a full shelf of (and more than a few in the yard) items that need a little TLC (translation - they don't work, and most people would throw them away). Oh well, I may as well own up and acknowledge that other people did throw them away before I claimed them as mine. I suspect this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, but I rationalize it by maintaining that I am doing my part to reuse, recycle, restore and be green. It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others. Anybody else have this tendency? P.S. What is a schneemobile Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8215 (20130410) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D ad in Michigan
I wonder if this is the one Ron Dwelle had? There can't be that many 190D 2.0 running around Michigan with 5sp, euro hitch and SLS. $6500 seems steep though. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/3687376491.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
No. dot my collection. I was just teasing/admiring Curt for his restoration and collection of Coleman products, schnee (snow) mobiles, lawn tractors, tractor and assorted other stuff. Yes, I resemble that. Unlike Curt, most of my stuff is still junk. I don't have an M, but I have something else... Dieselhead wrote: - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan to restore? For me, the original intent was to restore or repair things and continue to use them, but the fact is that I have a full shelf of (and more than a few in the yard) items that need a little TLC (translation - they don't work, and most people would throw them away). Oh well, I may as well own up and acknowledge that other people did throw them away before I claimed them as mine. I suspect this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, but I rationalize it by maintaining that I am doing my part to reuse, recycle, restore and be green. It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others. Anybody else have this tendency? P.S. What is a schneemobile Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8215 (20130410) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: Anybody else have this tendency? Yes. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others. How about living _well_ off the discards of others? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Do you still have the Coleman iron? On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at camp and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody want a camp stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman. 1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965 1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade 2x motorcycles 5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose) 1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really count the Farmall Super M circa 1952 oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a pretty good job but is rather forgettable. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:49:42 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can Message-ID: a06240868cd8bb8b9657d@[192.168.0.108] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll have a like-new mower... -Curt Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
I think it's one of the common traits of this group -- to one degree or another. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others. How about living _well_ off the discards of others? -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Dieselhead wrote: - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns 273 Coleman stoves 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers 3 schneemobiles And an International M in a tree farm Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan to restore? For me, the original intent was to restore or repair things and continue to use them, but the fact is that I have a full shelf of (and more than a few in the yard) items that need a little TLC (translation - they don't work, and most people would throw them away). Oh well, I may as well own up and acknowledge that other people did throw them away before I claimed them as mine. I suspect this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, but I rationalize it by maintaining that I am doing my part to reuse, recycle, restore and be green. It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others. Anybody else have this tendency? P.S. What is a schneemobile Jerry 82 240D It was beginning to sound like the 12 day of (we can't mention any more)mas. So I added the in a tree farm to the last item with the number 1. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fusion engine to Mars in 30 days
Gerry Archer wrote: The proposed Fusion Driven Rocket (FDR) is a 150-ton system that uses magnetism to compress lithium or aluminum metal bands around a deuterium-tritium fuel pellet to initiate fusion. The resultant microsecond reaction forces the propellant mass out at 30 kilometers per second, and would be able to pulse every minute or so and not cause g-force damage to the spacecraft's occupants. Will this thing work? I can't speak for the engineering, but the physics seem to be valid. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
