[MBZ] OT Vega/GM Bashing
I was out and about today and saw a dark green Vega on the street -- a 2 door hatchback. It looked original but was running (it sounded a bit clunky, though my high school buddy had one that sounded like that new) and was in decent shape body wise. Too funny. I went to the charity auction last spring, and there was an orange one there for sale, pretty beat up but mostly intact except for the front windshield, some guys there were bidding on it, forgot what they paid, but some guy said they are quite popular with drag racers. --R
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
The X package in the Gremlin included heavier springs, a V8 with manual transmission and torque links(Think AMX) on the rear axle for traction. Not all of the Gremlin X's got the torque links either(typical of AMC). There were 5 body styles available in the Eagle line, the coupe(2 door), sedan(4 door), Kammback, SX4 and wagon..I have owned and driven all 5 and still own 3 sx4's and 3 wagons(one with manual trans, also quite rare in the wagons). A friend of mine had a 79 Spirit GT with VW/Porsche motor(I thought it was a Renault but couldn't remember for sure) and while you are right about it not having enough power overall it was geared pretty well in the lower gears and was quite fun to drive around town but about useless on highways and hills. I guess AMC's are kinda like heroinOnce ya start messing with them it becomes a terrible addictionI just bought 4 ERTL AMX models(AND I actually found a hat printed with the OLD STYLE American Motors emblemI freaked out and had to have it while my girlfriend just shook her head and laughed at me) in the last few days totalling WAY over $100 just so they can sit and collect dust(like AMC's do best..lolol). Glad to know I'm not the only FREAK here, Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:30:34PM -0400, Mike Canfield wrote: Usually the only way to get the V8 with a 4 speed was in the X package for the gremlin and in the early SC Hornets. Mike X package was more of a trim option than anything. There was a gap after the demise of the javelin where the t-10 wasn't used anymore, and the SR4 hadn't been acquired from Borg Warner yet. The four speeds in the gap were a three speed with laycock overdrive (think gear vendors overdrive). SC hornets were only around for one year (71?), 360v8, four barrel, and either four speed or automatic. They made them in the Kammback(very short), SX4(longer but still short), Coupe(a bit longer yet), Sedan( even longer) and finally the Eagle wagon(same wheelbase a fullsize jeep Cherokee/Wagonneer). Sedan/wagon were the same wheel base, and the kammback/sx4 were the same wheelbase. Those were the only four eagles offered. The full size wagoneer was a smidge longer in wheelbase - half a foot I think. I could go measure, I have a 77 cherokee parked next to an 84 eagle wagon. ] They did have some fairly decent cars though, I remember the Matador which if ] I'm not mistaken was used as a police cruiser Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. } Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? 80-83 CJs, 80-83 eagles, 80-83 spirits. The four banger used in 78-79 was a VW/audi/porsche engine, 121 ci, actually the engine used in the 924 (not renault). Way underpowered for a spirit/concord/etc. ] Sure seems like I'm not going to get by with any AMC slip-ups in this ] crowd. Not when people around here have a good chunk of the sales literature, parts books, and a few surviving members in the fleet :) K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
The Matador is WAY bigger than a Hornet. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
I have seen a couple Matadors with creases in the hoods because of that. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? That was the Matator Coupe (Scaramanga), which gained some notoriety as possibly the first mass-production car that became a common insurance write-off due to the exhorbitant price of one part: the huge hood, with its scalloped shells around the tops of the headlights. Within a few years of the model's debut, adjusters were choking on the (IIRC) $1200 price tag for a hood. Pretty horrifying, given that back then they probably sold for what, 8 grand? Wasn't there also some semi-urban-legend about those, along the lines that the early cars shipped with insufficient bracing on the underside of the hood, and as a result could be bent in two by slamming the hood too hard? Ii always wanted one. Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
The Matador came shortly after the Ambassador of the late 50's and early 60's and was similar in size to the Ford LTD and Chevy Caprice Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:19:49PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? In that movie, the hornet was the red car, and the converted plane car was a matador coupe (the 74-78 body style). The matador coupe is MUCH larger than a hornet. The police cars were the sedan version of the matador (they don't look similar until you remove the sheet metal). Memory serving me, there was fairly heavy use of a couple of mercedes sedans (114/115?) in that movie as well, just not in the chase scenes. K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
You are right about the javelin, the Alabama State Police purchased a few of those as pursuit vehicles. As a matter of fact they kept a couple of them they use as show cars in parades. My nefiew lives down they and took some pictures and ask me if I knew what they were. Thought they a pretty cool looking Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes)
MAN did AMC mess up the Javelin when they made that awfull bubble fender model!!! I LOVED my 70...That was a nice body style but just like all NY cars was eaten away by the salt and became too dangerous to drive so I sold it to a guy doing a resto on one who needed trim pieces. That's OK I WILL have an AMX(68 or 9) to replace it with when the kids are graduated and I can get away with a 2 seater again. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You are right about the javelin, the Alabama State Police purchased a few of those as pursuit vehicles. As a matter of fact they kept a couple of them they use as show cars in parades. My nefiew lives down they and took some pictures and ask me if I knew what they were. Thought they a pretty cool looking Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes)
I think they ended the Javelin production in '73 or '74, but it did get ugly after the early 70's model year. The 69 had the best body style in my opinion, nice lines to the fenders and those factory Crager SST wheels looked real sharp Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAN did AMC mess up the Javelin when they made that awfull bubble fender model!!! I LOVED my 70...That was a nice body style but just like all NY cars was eaten away by the salt and became too dangerous to drive so I sold it to a guy doing a resto on one who needed trim pieces. That's OK I WILL have an AMX(68 or 9) to replace it with when the kids are graduated and I can get away with a 2 seater again. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You are right about the javelin, the Alabama State Police purchased a few of those as pursuit vehicles. As a matter of fact they kept a couple of them they use as show cars in parades. My nefiew lives down they and took some pictures and ask me if I knew what they were. Thought they a pretty cool looking Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes)
IIRC the 70 was the first year for the 401.The 390 was ended in 69...I am sure I will be corrected if i am off by a year.LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) Did the 70 include the addition of the 390 engine option ? Not sure if it was available yet on the 69 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 70 was the same body style as the 69. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) I think they ended the Javelin production in '73 or '74, but it did get ugly after the early 70's model year. The 69 had the best body style in my opinion, nice lines to the fenders and those factory Crager SST wheels looked real sharp Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAN did AMC mess up the Javelin when they made that awfull bubble fender model!!! I LOVED my 70...That was a nice body style but just like all NY cars was eaten away by the salt and became too dangerous to drive so I sold it to a guy doing a resto on one who needed trim pieces. That's OK I WILL have an AMX(68 or 9) to replace it with when the kids are graduated and I can get away with a 2 seater again. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You are right about the javelin, the Alabama State Police purchased a few of those as pursuit vehicles. As a matter of fact they kept a couple of them they use as show cars in parades. My nefiew lives down they and took some pictures and ask me if I knew what they were. Thought they a pretty cool looking Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes)
Could be, if I'm not mistaken the 401 was just a punched out 390 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC the 70 was the first year for the 401.The 390 was ended in 69...I am sure I will be corrected if i am off by a year.LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) Did the 70 include the addition of the 390 engine option ? Not sure if it was available yet on the 69 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 70 was the same body style as the 69. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) I think they ended the Javelin production in '73 or '74, but it did get ugly after the early 70's model year. The 69 had the best body style in my opinion, nice lines to the fenders and those factory Crager SST wheels looked real sharp Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAN did AMC mess up the Javelin when they made that awfull bubble fender model!!! I LOVED my 70...That was a nice body style but just like all NY cars was eaten away by the salt and became too dangerous to drive so I sold it to a guy doing a resto on one who needed trim pieces. That's OK I WILL have an AMX(68 or 9) to replace it with when the kids are graduated and I can get away with a 2 seater again. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You are right about the javelin, the Alabama State Police purchased a few of those as pursuit vehicles. As a matter of fact they kept a couple of them they use as show cars in parades. My nefiew lives down they and took some pictures and ask me if I knew what they were. Thought they a pretty cool looking Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes)
I think I recall the 401 is more similar to the 360.Something about the angle of the heads where they meet the intake or something like thatI'll have to look that one up sometime, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) Could be, if I'm not mistaken the 401 was just a punched out 390 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC the 70 was the first year for the 401.The 390 was ended in 69...I am sure I will be corrected if i am off by a year.LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) Did the 70 include the addition of the 390 engine option ? Not sure if it was available yet on the 69 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 70 was the same body style as the 69. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega(Now AMC addicts comparing notes) I think they ended the Javelin production in '73 or '74, but it did get ugly after the early 70's model year. The 69 had the best body style in my opinion, nice lines to the fenders and those factory Crager SST wheels looked real sharp Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAN did AMC mess up the Javelin when they made that awfull bubble fender model!!! I LOVED my 70...That was a nice body style but just like all NY cars was eaten away by the salt and became too dangerous to drive so I sold it to a guy doing a resto on one who needed trim pieces. That's OK I WILL have an AMX(68 or 9) to replace it with when the kids are graduated and I can get away with a 2 seater again. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You are right about the javelin, the Alabama State Police purchased a few of those as pursuit vehicles. As a matter of fact they kept a couple of them they use as show cars in parades. My nefiew lives down they and took some pictures and ask me if I knew what they were. Thought they a pretty cool looking Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega/Matador
Within a few years of the model's debut, adjusters were choking on the (IIRC) $1200 price tag for a hood. Pretty horrifying, given that back then they probably sold for what, 8 grand? I checked an old price guide, they had the 6 cyl coupe a little over 3k, and a Matador X coupe with V8 at $3348 in 1974. A bit under $5k in '78 with V8.
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I think the turbo got CIS to deal with air flow around the turbo. Later Volvo turbos had LH-Jetronic, as my sister's 740 turbo did. Peter On Sunday, September 11, 2005, at 03:29 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: L-Jet? in 75 I'd have though it was D-Jet, same as the 73 Fastback my sister had. She sold it because the fuel injectors and lines kept leaking, was afraid it would catch fire. I've seen far too many VW's burning on the side of the road, probably a good idea! Nope, L-Jet. 1975 was the first year for fuel injection on the Bus, too. VW stuck with similar systems all the way through the end of the Vanagon production run -- aircooled and watercooled gas Vanagons got Digifant or Digijet, which used many of the same components but had more sophisticated ECUs. They held onto what I think is the worst part of the system, the mechanical mass airflow sensor. Volvo used LH-Jetronic for years on the Volvo 240. It was a similar system to L-Jet, but used a hotwire airflow sensor instead of the mechanical flap. Turbocharged 240s got CIS instead, for some reason. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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IIRC, the early 60s small Pontiac or Oldsmobile was the first to have the Iron Duke installed in them. These were small cars about the size of the Corvair. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harry M.) Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Couldn't be to far back since GM didn't have many 4 bangers in the 70's with the exception of the aluminum block 4 cyl in the Vega. The Citation came out in 79 with its sister car from Pontiac. It was Pontiac's idea to name it the iron duke in the early 80's Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GM Iron Duke 2.5 goes WAY back before the Citation. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? If my memory serves me right it was first used in GM's X bodies like the Citation Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. That was the eagle. Two engine options, 258 2bbl or a 2.5L four (depending on year, it was either the pontiac 151 or the AMC 150). In addition to the wagons (have two with sticks and a parts wagon), they made four door sedans, two door hatchbacks (called an SX4, had one with a five speed), and two door sedans (sometimes called a kammback, think 4wd gremlin). Absolutely unstoppable in the snow, and actually a fairly decent car to drive. My 84 with a dead fifth gear would still get 22-24 mpg on the freeway. It was my daily driver before the crown vic, which preceeded the flock of diesels. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:30:34PM -0400, Mike Canfield wrote: Usually the only way to get the V8 with a 4 speed was in the X package for the gremlin and in the early SC Hornets. Mike X package was more of a trim option than anything. There was a gap after the demise of the javelin where the t-10 wasn't used anymore, and the SR4 hadn't been acquired from Borg Warner yet. The four speeds in the gap were a three speed with laycock overdrive (think gear vendors overdrive). SC hornets were only around for one year (71?), 360v8, four barrel, and either four speed or automatic. They made them in the Kammback(very short), SX4(longer but still short), Coupe(a bit longer yet), Sedan( even longer) and finally the Eagle wagon(same wheelbase a fullsize jeep Cherokee/Wagonneer). Sedan/wagon were the same wheel base, and the kammback/sx4 were the same wheelbase. Those were the only four eagles offered. The full size wagoneer was a smidge longer in wheelbase - half a foot I think. I could go measure, I have a 77 cherokee parked next to an 84 eagle wagon. ] They did have some fairly decent cars though, I remember the Matador which if ] I'm not mistaken was used as a police cruiser Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. } Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? 80-83 CJs, 80-83 eagles, 80-83 spirits. The four banger used in 78-79 was a VW/audi/porsche engine, 121 ci, actually the engine used in the 924 (not renault). Way underpowered for a spirit/concord/etc. ] Sure seems like I'm not going to get by with any AMC slip-ups in this ] crowd. Not when people around here have a good chunk of the sales literature, parts books, and a few surviving members in the fleet :) K
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Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane?
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:19:49PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? In that movie, the hornet was the red car, and the converted plane car was a matador coupe (the 74-78 body style). The matador coupe is MUCH larger than a hornet. The police cars were the sedan version of the matador (they don't look similar until you remove the sheet metal). Memory serving me, there was fairly heavy use of a couple of mercedes sedans (114/115?) in that movie as well, just not in the chase scenes. K
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Rick Knoble wrote: I had a '78 BMW 530i. Same thing, L-Jetronic w/points. It also had these stainless steel exhaust manifolds called reactors. If I had it to do over again, I would fabricate intake manifolds and put on Webers. THAT car was a money pit... After lots of problems with my '75 VW Bus, I eventually ripped out the L-Jet and put on a Weber 32/36 progressive carb. Fuel economy and reliability improved, but there was an icing problem due to the long intake runners that I never really solved. Throttle response suffered as well, because the carb was so far from the heads, but no one drives a VW Bus for its throttle response. The L-Jet was great when it worked -- in cold weather, especially, it would start right up every time. If you could get the engine to crank over three times, it would always start, no matter how slowly it was cranking. But L-Jet had no limp-home modes, and combined with 25-year-old wiring and poorly-designed connectors, that made for really poor reliability.
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Russ Maki wrote: The Spirit (a co-worker had one) was a POS -- the last gasp of AMC. The Eagle was a pretty durable set of wheels. Its rear seal issues weren't that rare among US straight sixes, as I recall. .I know many of the Fords I drove during the period had similar problems. I had two Ford 302 V-8s experience rear main seal problems, too. In one of them, which was in a '90 Econoline, the leak was slow enough and the vehicle worn enough that I just fed its habit. The leak reached a peak of 1 qt. per 300 miles then slacked off to 1 qt. per 800 miles, for reasons I still don't understand.
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Fmiser wrote: My 1972 W108 had electronic fuel injection and points to trigger the electronic ignition. Points were a _very_ mature technology at that time, and with no high voltage on them they will last a long, long, time. Agreed, but unfortunately VW was still running the full coil current through them at the time.
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L-Jet? in 75 I'd have though it was D-Jet, same as the 73 Fastback my sister had. She sold it because the fuel injectors and lines kept leaking, was afraid it would catch fire. I've seen far too many VW's burning on the side of the road, probably a good idea! Peter On Saturday, September 10, 2005, at 10:46 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: I had a '78 BMW 530i. Same thing, L-Jetronic w/points. It also had these stainless steel exhaust manifolds called reactors. If I had it to do over again, I would fabricate intake manifolds and put on Webers. THAT car was a money pit... After lots of problems with my '75 VW Bus, I eventually ripped out the L-Jet and put on a Weber 32/36 progressive carb. Fuel economy and reliability improved, but there was an icing problem due to the long intake runners that I never really solved. Throttle response suffered as well, because the carb was so far from the heads, but no one drives a VW Bus for its throttle response. The L-Jet was great when it worked -- in cold weather, especially, it would start right up every time. If you could get the engine to crank over three times, it would always start, no matter how slowly it was cranking. But L-Jet had no limp-home modes, and combined with 25-year-old wiring and poorly-designed connectors, that made for really poor reliability. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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I always thought VW used the simpler CIS injection Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L-Jet? in 75 I'd have though it was D-Jet, same as the 73 Fastback my sister had. She sold it because the fuel injectors and lines kept leaking, was afraid it would catch fire. I've seen far too many VW's burning on the side of the road, probably a good idea! Peter On Saturday, September 10, 2005, at 10:46 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: I had a '78 BMW 530i. Same thing, L-Jetronic w/points. It also had these stainless steel exhaust manifolds called reactors. If I had it to do over again, I would fabricate intake manifolds and put on Webers. THAT car was a money pit... After lots of problems with my '75 VW Bus, I eventually ripped out the L-Jet and put on a Weber 32/36 progressive carb. Fuel economy and reliability improved, but there was an icing problem due to the long intake runners that I never really solved. Throttle response suffered as well, because the carb was so far from the heads, but no one drives a VW Bus for its throttle response. The L-Jet was great when it worked -- in cold weather, especially, it would start right up every time. If you could get the engine to crank over three times, it would always start, no matter how slowly it was cranking. But L-Jet had no limp-home modes, and combined with 25-year-old wiring and poorly-designed connectors, that made for really poor reliability. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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K-jet came out around 74 or 75 -- up to that time, only D-Jet was available. LH-Jet came along about then, too. K-jet (CIS) was the best, as far as I'm concerned, but I don't think it was ever installed on the flat four, which was on it's way out by then. VW put D-Jet on the flat four in 1968 - fastback and wagon had twin webers before that. To change over to carbs, I would have advised getting the manifolds off the earlier engine along with the carbs and installing the air pre-heat system to solve the icing problem -- that's why they all had pre-heat. Peter
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Peter Frederick wrote: L-Jet? in 75 I'd have though it was D-Jet, same as the 73 Fastback my sister had. She sold it because the fuel injectors and lines kept leaking, was afraid it would catch fire. I've seen far too many VW's burning on the side of the road, probably a good idea! Nope, L-Jet. 1975 was the first year for fuel injection on the Bus, too. VW stuck with similar systems all the way through the end of the Vanagon production run -- aircooled and watercooled gas Vanagons got Digifant or Digijet, which used many of the same components but had more sophisticated ECUs. They held onto what I think is the worst part of the system, the mechanical mass airflow sensor. Volvo used LH-Jetronic for years on the Volvo 240. It was a similar system to L-Jet, but used a hotwire airflow sensor instead of the mechanical flap. Turbocharged 240s got CIS instead, for some reason.
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That would have been either a 232 or 258 six. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega When I worked at Budget we had the Levis edition Gremlins with the straight sixes (was it a 252?), including the tiny dished sport steering wheel and NO POWER STEERING. Really nice handling beast under way, but evil, evil thing to parallel park. We gave up trying to rent them to women, as they all brought them back and complained within hours. We had Hornets and Pacers as well. Whomever purchased the Pacers after got a good deal, as they were low mileage (no one wanted them) -- except for the wagons, which people found to be a useful size for small chores. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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AMC? Funny looking??? ROTFLMAO AMC had so many funny looking cars that that question could have numerous answers..In the early 70's the Jeepster Comando was pretty ugly but you are probably referring to the Eagle Kammback...Kind of like a cross between a Gremlin and a Concord with four wheel drive. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I worked at Budget we had the Levis edition Gremlins with the straight sixes (was it a 252?), including the tiny dished sport steering wheel and NO POWER STEERING. Really nice handling beast under way, but evil, evil thing to parallel park. We gave up trying to rent them to women, as they all brought them back and complained within hours. We had Hornets and Pacers as well. Whomever purchased the Pacers after got a good deal, as they were low mileage (no one wanted them) -- except for the wagons, which people found to be a useful size for small chores. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED
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That was an Eagle coupe you saw in the yard Great cars in thier day and if I could find a solid one I would probably still drive it.Just junked it the other dayI have 6 more for parts...OH what an addiction that was..Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. I don't remember the name, but Mike has one! I saw it when I picked up the 240d, and I was going to ask him about it. Some people use them for winter cars here still, and swear by them. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Usually the only way to get the V8 with a 4 speed was in the X package for the gremlin and in the early SC Hornets. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:51:13PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Very uncommon engine and trans option for the gremlin (even hornet), usually the v8 was an automatic, or that failing, a three speed, since the four speed was virtually non-existent with the demise of the javelin. Vividly remember the hornet, have two wagons (sportabouts), both with v8/automatics. The tan one needs a transmission now, but before that was quite the little sleeper. The green one I don't drive much it's one of the limited edition gucci interior ones. Anyone interested in reliving an acid trip they were on in the early seventies, check out: http://www.punk.net/~kevin/gucci1.jpg http://www.punk.net/~kevin/gucci4.jpg But seriously, can't we be talking about wacky paint schemes on W109s or something? It's pretty sad when a Mercedes list is getting off on how weird AMC/Rambler/Vega/Pinto/etc were... K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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JabbaHursty wrote: my old VW rabbit had no power steering and no power brake, but was CIS fuel injected. points ignition. german made. What really struck me as bizarre were the early D-Jetronic and L-Jetronic cars, like the mid-70s Beetles and Buses. Electronic fuel injection, but points ignition. Huh?
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I had a '78 BMW 530i. Same thing, L-Jetronic w/points. It also had these stainless steel exhaust manifolds called reactors. If I had it to do over again, I would fabricate intake manifolds and put on Webers. THAT car was a money pit... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD What really struck me as bizarre were the early D-Jetronic and L-Jetronic cars, like the mid-70s Beetles and Buses. Electronic fuel injection, but points ignition. Huh?
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thats it the AMC Eagle, if I remember correctly they had good ground clearance, but a short wheel base Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was an Eagle coupe you saw in the yard Great cars in thier day and if I could find a solid one I would probably still drive it.Just junked it the other dayI have 6 more for parts...OH what an addiction that was..Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. I don't remember the name, but Mike has one! I saw it when I picked up the 240d, and I was going to ask him about it. Some people use them for winter cars here still, and swear by them. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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They did have some fairly decent cars though, I remember the Matador which if I'm not mistaken was used as a police cruiser. The 4 wheel drive I was thinking about was the Eagle. Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMC? Funny looking??? ROTFLMAO AMC had so many funny looking cars that that question could have numerous answers..In the early 70's the Jeepster Comando was pretty ugly but you are probably referring to the Eagle Kammback...Kind of like a cross between a Gremlin and a Concord with four wheel drive. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I worked at Budget we had the Levis edition Gremlins with the straight sixes (was it a 252?), including the tiny dished sport steering wheel and NO POWER STEERING. Really nice handling beast under way, but evil, evil thing to parallel park. We gave up trying to rent them to women, as they all brought them back and complained within hours. We had Hornets and Pacers as well. Whomever purchased the Pacers after got a good deal, as they were low mileage (no one wanted them) -- except for the wagons, which people found to be a useful size for small chores. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo
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Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? If my memory serves me right it was first used in GM's X bodies like the Citation Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. That was the eagle. Two engine options, 258 2bbl or a 2.5L four (depending on year, it was either the pontiac 151 or the AMC 150). In addition to the wagons (have two with sticks and a parts wagon), they made four door sedans, two door hatchbacks (called an SX4, had one with a five speed), and two door sedans (sometimes called a kammback, think 4wd gremlin). Absolutely unstoppable in the snow, and actually a fairly decent car to drive. My 84 with a dead fifth gear would still get 22-24 mpg on the freeway. It was my daily driver before the crown vic, which preceeded the flock of diesels. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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got a memory jolt, it was the Eagle Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. I don't remember the name, but Mike has one! I saw it when I picked up the 240d, and I was going to ask him about it. Some people use them for winter cars here still, and swear by them. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. You must be talking about the AMC Eagle. The 6 cylinder engine were 4.2L 258 CID, and many had rear main seal problems including the one that we had. It was a wonderful winter car while living in Bend, OR. The college is built on a hill, and if you didn't have a 4WD on a snowy winters day, you didn't get up there! Rather than having the rear main seal and clutch replaced, we shoulda just dropped a 617.95x turbodiesel into it! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
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Remember the Spirit? It was kind of a downsized FWD Eagle. AMC launched the line in late 1978 or '79 with ceremonies in communities across the country named Spirit, including the settlement of Spirit, Wis., near the hometown of our listmate Meade Dillon. I was there with camera and notepad to scribble over the unveiling -- they biggest thing that EVER happened in Spirit, Wis., I'm sure. The Spirit (a co-worker had one) was a POS -- the last gasp of AMC. The Eagle was a pretty durable set of wheels. Its rear seal issues weren't that rare among US straight sixes, as I recall. .I know many of the Fords I drove during the period had similar problems. Russ Maki Ixonia, Wis. (With a 6-cyl '53 Ford F-100 in the garage -- no oil leaks so far) kevin kraly wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. You must be talking about the AMC Eagle. The 6 cylinder engine were 4.2L 258 CID, and many had rear main seal problems including the one that we had. It was a wonderful winter car while living in Bend, OR. The college is built on a hill, and if you didn't have a 4WD on a snowy winters day, you didn't get up there! Rather than having the rear main seal and clutch replaced, we shoulda just dropped a 617.95x turbodiesel into it! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm
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Remember the Spirit? It was kind of a downsized FWD Eagle. Yes, it did share body panels with the Eagle 2 DR HB, but I didn't know that it was FWD! A friend of mine had one that also had a bad main seal (kind of like a perpetual oil change). It did manage to stay running most of the time though. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
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They made them in the Kammback(very short), SX4(longer but still short), Coupe(a bit longer yet), Sedan( even longer) and finally the Eagle wagon(same wheelbase a fullsize jeep Cherokee/Wagonneer). Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega thats it the AMC Eagle, if I remember correctly they had good ground clearance, but a short wheel base Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was an Eagle coupe you saw in the yard Great cars in thier day and if I could find a solid one I would probably still drive it.Just junked it the other dayI have 6 more for parts...OH what an addiction that was..Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. I don't remember the name, but Mike has one! I saw it when I picked up the 240d, and I was going to ask him about it. Some people use them for winter cars here still, and swear by them. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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The GM Iron Duke 2.5 goes WAY back before the Citation. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? If my memory serves me right it was first used in GM's X bodies like the Citation Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. That was the eagle. Two engine options, 258 2bbl or a 2.5L four (depending on year, it was either the pontiac 151 or the AMC 150). In addition to the wagons (have two with sticks and a parts wagon), they made four door sedans, two door hatchbacks (called an SX4, had one with a five speed), and two door sedans (sometimes called a kammback, think 4wd gremlin). Absolutely unstoppable in the snow, and actually a fairly decent car to drive. My 84 with a dead fifth gear would still get 22-24 mpg on the freeway. It was my daily driver before the crown vic, which preceeded the flock of diesels. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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The Spirit was NOT a FWD car. It shared the same platform as the Eagle SX4. It was available with the 2.5 or the 258 six. The spirit GT had a hot little Renault(I think) 4banger in it and was quite quick. The Spirit AMX(78-80) was the nicest and very limited production. The nicest thing about them using the same chasis was that all of the older V8 stuff will bolt right into them(including space left for dual exhaust). Mike - Original Message - From: Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Remember the Spirit? It was kind of a downsized FWD Eagle. AMC launched the line in late 1978 or '79 with ceremonies in communities across the country named Spirit, including the settlement of Spirit, Wis., near the hometown of our listmate Meade Dillon. I was there with camera and notepad to scribble over the unveiling -- they biggest thing that EVER happened in Spirit, Wis., I'm sure. The Spirit (a co-worker had one) was a POS -- the last gasp of AMC. The Eagle was a pretty durable set of wheels. Its rear seal issues weren't that rare among US straight sixes, as I recall. .I know many of the Fords I drove during the period had similar problems. Russ Maki Ixonia, Wis. (With a 6-cyl '53 Ford F-100 in the garage -- no oil leaks so far) kevin kraly wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. You must be talking about the AMC Eagle. The 6 cylinder engine were 4.2L 258 CID, and many had rear main seal problems including the one that we had. It was a wonderful winter car while living in Bend, OR. The college is built on a hill, and if you didn't have a 4WD on a snowy winters day, you didn't get up there! Rather than having the rear main seal and clutch replaced, we shoulda just dropped a 617.95x turbodiesel into it! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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It wasn't.Mike - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Remember the Spirit? It was kind of a downsized FWD Eagle. Yes, it did share body panels with the Eagle 2 DR HB, but I didn't know that it was FWD! A friend of mine had one that also had a bad main seal (kind of like a perpetual oil change). It did manage to stay running most of the time though. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Mike Canfield wrote: The Spirit was NOT a FWD car. Oops, my mistake. It kind of stuck in my mind that way because at that point the Big Three were all rushing FWD platforms into production (Horizon, Escort, Citation). The gang at Kenosha had to be different. Sure seems like I'm not going to get by with any AMC slip-ups in this crowd. How about that Matador? ;) Russ
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rumor has it that David wrote: JabbaHursty wrote: my old VW rabbit had no power steering and no power brake, but was CIS fuel injected. points ignition. german made. What really struck me as bizarre were the early D-Jetronic and L-Jetronic cars, like the mid-70s Beetles and Buses. Electronic fuel injection, but points ignition. Huh? My 1972 W108 had electronic fuel injection and points to trigger the electronic ignition. Points were a _very_ mature technology at that time, and with no high voltage on them they will last a long, long, time. Philip, former W108 owner.
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You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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There was a smaller V8 they used for the Monza too, I think it was a 262 Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but they needed an alignment every other week. I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 182k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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My great uncle was an entomologist. The year after he died, my great aunt needed a new car, so she bought a grasshopper green hornet in memory of him. On 9/9/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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When I worked at Budget we had the Levis edition Gremlins with the straight sixes (was it a 252?), including the tiny dished sport steering wheel and NO POWER STEERING. Really nice handling beast under way, but evil, evil thing to parallel park. We gave up trying to rent them to women, as they all brought them back and complained within hours. We had Hornets and Pacers as well. Whomever purchased the Pacers after got a good deal, as they were low mileage (no one wanted them) -- except for the wagons, which people found to be a useful size for small chores. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Maddness? He's giving something away, Jesuse Christ...leave the man alone you freakin computer geek! On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
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what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I worked at Budget we had the Levis edition Gremlins with the straight sixes (was it a 252?), including the tiny dished sport steering wheel and NO POWER STEERING. Really nice handling beast under way, but evil, evil thing to parallel park. We gave up trying to rent them to women, as they all brought them back and complained within hours. We had Hornets and Pacers as well. Whomever purchased the Pacers after got a good deal, as they were low mileage (no one wanted them) -- except for the wagons, which people found to be a useful size for small chores. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just
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I had a Rabbit, it was a 84 with a Diesel and probably one of the best cars I ever owned. 45mpg with the air going and I sold it with 380,000 miles on it and it was still going strong. JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my old VW rabbit had no power steering and no power brake, but was CIS fuel injected. points ignition. german made. gawd, that was a great little car. 4 on the floor. top speed of 97 mph but it could do it all day long. At 09:57 AM 9/9/2005, you wrote: When I worked at Budget we had the Levis edition Gremlins with the straight sixes (was it a 252?), including the tiny dished sport steering wheel and NO POWER STEERING. Really nice handling beast under way, but evil, evil thing to parallel park. We gave up trying to rent them to women, as they all brought them back and complained within hours. We had Hornets and Pacers as well. Whomever purchased the Pacers after got a good deal, as they were low mileage (no one wanted them) -- except for the wagons, which people found to be a useful size for small chores. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the Hornet well...Had a 77 Hornet AMX304 automatic.One of less than 374 made and still isn't worth much.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. I don't remember the name, but Mike has one! I saw it when I picked up the 240d, and I was going to ask him about it. Some people use them for winter cars here still, and swear by them. Mac
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On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. That was the eagle. Two engine options, 258 2bbl or a 2.5L four (depending on year, it was either the pontiac 151 or the AMC 150). In addition to the wagons (have two with sticks and a parts wagon), they made four door sedans, two door hatchbacks (called an SX4, had one with a five speed), and two door sedans (sometimes called a kammback, think 4wd gremlin). Absolutely unstoppable in the snow, and actually a fairly decent car to drive. My 84 with a dead fifth gear would still get 22-24 mpg on the freeway. It was my daily driver before the crown vic, which preceeded the flock of diesels. K
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On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:51:13PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: You won't believe this, but thats exactly the same car they profiled. It was Classic Car and Driver on the Gremlin with Levis interior. Yellow with a V8 and 4 speed. Remember the Hornet? Very uncommon engine and trans option for the gremlin (even hornet), usually the v8 was an automatic, or that failing, a three speed, since the four speed was virtually non-existent with the demise of the javelin. Vividly remember the hornet, have two wagons (sportabouts), both with v8/automatics. The tan one needs a transmission now, but before that was quite the little sleeper. The green one I don't drive much it's one of the limited edition gucci interior ones. Anyone interested in reliving an acid trip they were on in the early seventies, check out: http://www.punk.net/~kevin/gucci1.jpg http://www.punk.net/~kevin/gucci4.jpg But seriously, can't we be talking about wacky paint schemes on W109s or something? It's pretty sad when a Mercedes list is getting off on how weird AMC/Rambler/Vega/Pinto/etc were... K
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Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow.
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STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? Don On 9/7/05, frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac
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I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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Quirky cars we USED to own? Man, you must be from the Easley list ;-). Three weeks ago, I drove 5 hours, across an international border, to pick up a 23-year-old Mercedes from in front of the owner's house, when said owner was away. I then spent almost two hours convincing the Canada Customs Nazis that, yes indeedy, I actually paid $100 for it. No foolin, ossifer. (Did not help that I arrived a half hour behind some poor twit with a Rambler American, in tow with Cali plates, who had no paperwork for the car. MAN did he get stomped on before they let him leave.) Quirky? Heck, if there is any, absolutely ANY harder way to buy a car, tell me about it and I will probably try it. So not only have I bought two very quirky cars (2x 240Ds) in the last two months or so, but I've staked claim to the weirdest way of acquiring them. So there. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Hey my Vega cost me $50 and lasted me for 2 years, rusty fenders that waved in the breeze at 60mph. I call that quirky :0 Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quirky cars we USED to own? Man, you must be from the Easley list ;-). Three weeks ago, I drove 5 hours, across an international border, to pick up a 23-year-old Mercedes from in front of the owner's house, when said owner was away. I then spent almost two hours convincing the Canada Customs Nazis that, yes indeedy, I actually paid $100 for it. No foolin, ossifer. (Did not help that I arrived a half hour behind some poor twit with a Rambler American, in tow with Cali plates, who had no paperwork for the car. MAN did he get stomped on before they let him leave.) Quirky? Heck, if there is any, absolutely ANY harder way to buy a car, tell me about it and I will probably try it. So not only have I bought two very quirky cars (2x 240Ds) in the last two months or so, but I've staked claim to the weirdest way of acquiring them. So there. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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Not at all. Unless you converted it to run on rapseed oil. (Okay, okay, just kidding.) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: Hey my Vega cost me $50 and lasted me for 2 years, rusty fenders that waved in the breeze at 60mph. I call that quirky :0
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Oh, I almost forgot this tidbit.. my Vega was the one off fred flinstone mobile. A hole in the drivers side floor so anything you were brave enough to run over could be seen under your feet HA! Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quirky cars we USED to own? Man, you must be from the Easley list ;-). Three weeks ago, I drove 5 hours, across an international border, to pick up a 23-year-old Mercedes from in front of the owner's house, when said owner was away. I then spent almost two hours convincing the Canada Customs Nazis that, yes indeedy, I actually paid $100 for it. No foolin, ossifer. (Did not help that I arrived a half hour behind some poor twit with a Rambler American, in tow with Cali plates, who had no paperwork for the car. MAN did he get stomped on before they let him leave.) Quirky? Heck, if there is any, absolutely ANY harder way to buy a car, tell me about it and I will probably try it. So not only have I bought two very quirky cars (2x 240Ds) in the last two months or so, but I've staked claim to the weirdest way of acquiring them. So there. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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actually I did try everclear once.. Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all. Unless you converted it to run on rapseed oil. (Okay, okay, just kidding.) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: Hey my Vega cost me $50 and lasted me for 2 years, rusty fenders that waved in the breeze at 60mph. I call that quirky :0 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. I knew a girl who had one of those in high school. Squeezed is right. GM official service manuals recommended an engine hoist be used to change the plugs. I suppose it's not unusual these days, what with 100,000 mile service intervals, for changing plugs to require major engine dissasembly, but back in the '80s it was a big deal.
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Yeah, but they needed an alignment every other week. I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 182k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
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I had two vegas and one pinto. The pinto was better. Tho I did get 180k out of a vega, which I finaly sold with a bad clutch and three burned valves. I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.nethttp://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listenhttp://www.airamericaradio.com/listen -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dan Weeks wrote: I had two vegas and one pinto. The pinto was better. Tho I did get 180k out of a vega, which I finaly sold with a bad clutch and three burned valves. Was the 180k Vega a late model (1977 or so) with 151ci Pontiac Iron Duke motor? (I got 208k out of my 1980 Citation with that motor, but it was well worn by then)
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I had a 73 Gremin X with the 304V8, 4 speed standard and a limited slip.THAT CAR WAS A ROCKET!!! It also has the limited edition Levi's edition interior with denim seats and Levi's jeans buttons stitched into it. Wish I still had that one!!! Probably would have never owned a MBZ if I hadn't acquired a love of tinkerring working on AMC's...LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hey Mike, this would be something you could be intersted in. I saw a Car and Driver special on tv about the gremlin with a V8. Man that thing could really smoke em... Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. OT! Not too long ago there was a (mercifully) brief discussion of the Chevrolet aluminum 4 and the car it ended up in. This week I found a 1970 Car Life magazine with an article about the XP-887 engine , read Vega, engine, Mopar engines and a proposed mid engine Corvette plus a critical review of the Gremlin. Any of you nostalgia bums want it, just ask. (sicko's). Any of you Gentlemen of the Navy who would like a Navy Training Course Booklet Instructions for use in Preparation for the rating of Seaman 1c, dated 1940, just ask. These jewels were part of my father in laws squirrel hoard, from his Navy days etc.(WWII and Korea). TTFN and off to bed. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel diving tomorrow. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Heck Steve, Just think about when I bought that car just outside DC SIGHT UNSEEN for $500 off e-bay with the PO telling meGo ahead and come here and drive it home, I'll leave the tags and all on it for you if you'll send them back. I did just that though and was just as pleasently surprized as you.What a history that car could tell if it could talk. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Quirky cars we USED to own? Man, you must be from the Easley list ;-). Three weeks ago, I drove 5 hours, across an international border, to pick up a 23-year-old Mercedes from in front of the owner's house, when said owner was away. I then spent almost two hours convincing the Canada Customs Nazis that, yes indeedy, I actually paid $100 for it. No foolin, ossifer. (Did not help that I arrived a half hour behind some poor twit with a Rambler American, in tow with Cali plates, who had no paperwork for the car. MAN did he get stomped on before they let him leave.) Quirky? Heck, if there is any, absolutely ANY harder way to buy a car, tell me about it and I will probably try it. So not only have I bought two very quirky cars (2x 240Ds) in the last two months or so, but I've staked claim to the weirdest way of acquiring them. So there. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Yeah they did.From doing wheelstands with a posi and a lot of nerve..Mike - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Yeah, but they needed an alignment every other week. I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 182k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Wild, eh? Not too many Ford Tempos have such interesting lives! BTW, I have started shining it up and the paint is coming back great. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck Steve, Just think about when I bought that car just outside DC SIGHT UNSEEN for $500 off e-bay with the PO telling meGo ahead and come here and drive it home, I'll leave the tags and all on it for you if you'll send them back. I did just that though and was just as pleasently surprized as you.What a history that car could tell if it could talk. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Quirky cars we USED to own? Man, you must be from the Easley list ;-). Three weeks ago, I drove 5 hours, across an international border, to pick up a 23-year-old Mercedes from in front of the owner's house, when said owner was away. I then spent almost two hours convincing the Canada Customs Nazis that, yes indeedy, I actually paid $100 for it. No foolin, ossifer. (Did not help that I arrived a half hour behind some poor twit with a Rambler American, in tow with Cali plates, who had no paperwork for the car. MAN did he get stomped on before they let him leave.) Quirky? Heck, if there is any, absolutely ANY harder way to buy a car, tell me about it and I will probably try it. So not only have I bought two very quirky cars (2x 240Ds) in the last two months or so, but I've staked claim to the weirdest way of acquiring them. So there. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You'll LOVE the way that car looks cleaned up and NOONE will believe you bought it for $100.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Wild, eh? Not too many Ford Tempos have such interesting lives! BTW, I have started shining it up and the paint is coming back great. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck Steve, Just think about when I bought that car just outside DC SIGHT UNSEEN for $500 off e-bay with the PO telling meGo ahead and come here and drive it home, I'll leave the tags and all on it for you if you'll send them back. I did just that though and was just as pleasently surprized as you.What a history that car could tell if it could talk. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Quirky cars we USED to own? Man, you must be from the Easley list ;-). Three weeks ago, I drove 5 hours, across an international border, to pick up a 23-year-old Mercedes from in front of the owner's house, when said owner was away. I then spent almost two hours convincing the Canada Customs Nazis that, yes indeedy, I actually paid $100 for it. No foolin, ossifer. (Did not help that I arrived a half hour behind some poor twit with a Rambler American, in tow with Cali plates, who had no paperwork for the car. MAN did he get stomped on before they let him leave.) Quirky? Heck, if there is any, absolutely ANY harder way to buy a car, tell me about it and I will probably try it. So not only have I bought two very quirky cars (2x 240Ds) in the last two months or so, but I've staked claim to the weirdest way of acquiring them. So there. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote: No offense, but since when was it madness to discuss the quirky cars we all used to own? Its car talk;;; geez LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of liked my '78 Pinto. On 9/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: STOP THE MADNESS. I can't believe that a comment a week ago about owning a Vega has resulted in this discussion. Anyone want to talk about Linux? I always preferred those Monza coupes, particularly the ones they squeezed the 305 into. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Hi, All. Mike Canfield is the winner (?) of the mag. The only one who asked actually. It should look good on his outhouse wall. Mike, It will go out tomorrow, enjoy. Lt Don, Please remember that madness does not run, but gallops, in my family! TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:26 PM 9/7/2005, you wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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No, it was a '73, with the steel-sleeved aluminum block. Dan Weeks wrote: I had two vegas and one pinto. The pinto was better. Tho I did get 180k out of a vega, which I finaly sold with a bad clutch and three burned valves. Was the 180k Vega a late model (1977 or so) with 151ci Pontiac Iron Duke motor? (I got 208k out of my 1980 Citation with that motor, but it was well worn by then) -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fred, Thank You very much!!!..Do I owe you anything to cover mail and all? Thanks again, Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Hi, All. Mike Canfield is the winner (?) of the mag. The only one who asked actually. It should look good on his outhouse wall. Mike, It will go out tomorrow, enjoy. Lt Don, Please remember that madness does not run, but gallops, in my family! TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:26 PM 9/7/2005, you wrote: Hello.I would love to have that magazine as I am an AMC nut!!!...I try to get every article I can to HOPEFULLY decorate the walls of my garage...Mike - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vega ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net