Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Franc, I'm not going to play Paypal's advocate here, but their own regulations are pretty clear, as stated below. Also, Paypal does explicitly NOT offer transport insurance, so they won't take any responsibility if a poster is lost in transport. On the other hand, I figure the average Paypal employee is about as well educated as any other callcenter worker, so I seriously doubt that the person who decided about your claim was even fully aware of the actual Paypal rules and regulations. That, of course, is part of the price of doing business with a multi-national trust. I'm not the expert on the USPS postage system, and being in Germany I certainly shouldn't be. All I can say, I'm frequently receiving packages, sent First Class, with a Certificate of Mailing, with a USPS waybill that was quite obviously purchased online and printed at home. Whether this was done directly through USPS or through stamps.com is beyond my knowledge. All I know is, it can be done and if it IS done by the seller, it saves me a lot of money. Be that as may, as I said before: If a seller is working with me on this, I'll bid, if he doesn't, I usually pass. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:28 schrieb Franc: I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal. I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC -Original Message- From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Franc, my criticism is not about you making extra money from shipping in the first place. I much more critize that you choose an extremely expensive shipping option and make your BUYER pay the bill. If I supposed to pay an extra $28 on lobby card, merely for the seller's piece of mind, I will usually prefer not to do business with this person. You don't think that even over here I could get full insurance coverage at the $10 basic rate I charge to my buyers? Guess what, I can't. Instead, I pay for a transport policy as part of my gallery insurance, that will cover me on expensive items (basically anything worth $500 or more). Obviously, this is not for free, On any cheaper items, I simply cover a potential loss myself, I write this off to 'customer service' and take it into consideration when I calculate my ASKING PRICES. Personally, I hate it when I see a $50 item become a $90 item with shipping, and I know that a vast number of my clients feel the same. If I were to take your approach, my minimum postage fees would be around $50 to $80, depending on location. To each his own, but I refuse to do this, and instead I've chosen to live with the every-day risk of facing one of those evil, lying Europeans. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:39 schrieb Franc: Helmut --- I just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance. That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in which we are exchanging information. FRANC From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
I wonder if those evil, lying Europeans aren't solely an eBay phenomenon. We sell on our site and on Amazon and have *LOTS *of overseas buyers (and of course we accept PayPal from overseas customers), and we almost never have even a single problem. I am thinking eBay is a magnet for scam artists (I have seen Youtube videos telling how you can get almost anything free on eBay, simply by buying it with PayPal and then putting in a false claim, thus getting your money back AND the item. Bruce On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: Franc, my criticism is not about you making extra money from shipping in the first place. I much more critize that you choose an extremely expensive shipping option and make your BUYER pay the bill. If I supposed to pay an extra $28 on lobby card, merely for the seller's piece of mind, I will usually prefer not to do business with this person. You don't think that even over here I could get full insurance coverage at the $10 basic rate I charge to my buyers? Guess what, I can't. Instead, I pay for a transport policy as part of my gallery insurance, that will cover me on expensive items (basically anything worth $500 or more). Obviously, this is not for free, On any cheaper items, I simply cover a potential loss myself, I write this off to 'customer service' and take it into consideration when I calculate my ASKING PRICES. Personally, I hate it when I see a $50 item become a $90 item with shipping, and I know that a vast number of my clients feel the same. If I were to take your approach, my minimum postage fees would be around $50 to $80, depending on location. To each his own, but I refuse to do this, and instead I've chosen to live with the every-day risk of facing one of those evil, lying Europeans. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:39 schrieb Franc: Helmut --- I just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance. That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in which we are exchanging information. FRANC *From:* Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM *To:* Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegroupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Here's the thing. My postal rates are posted in my Ebay listings. If the buyer is not comfortable paying for Priority International, they are free to purchase from you. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, my criticism is not about you making extra money from shipping in the first place. I much more critize that you choose an extremely expensive shipping option and make your BUYER pay the bill. If I supposed to pay an extra $28 on lobby card, merely for the seller's piece of mind, I will usually prefer not to do business with this person. You don't think that even over here I could get full insurance coverage at the $10 basic rate I charge to my buyers? Guess what, I can't. Instead, I pay for a transport policy as part of my gallery insurance, that will cover me on expensive items (basically anything worth $500 or more). Obviously, this is not for free, On any cheaper items, I simply cover a potential loss myself, I write this off to 'customer service' and take it into consideration when I calculate my ASKING PRICES. Personally, I hate it when I see a $50 item become a $90 item with shipping, and I know that a vast number of my clients feel the same. If I were to take your approach, my minimum postage fees would be around $50 to $80, depending on location. To each his own, but I refuse to do this, and instead I've chosen to live with the every-day risk of facing one of those evil, lying Europeans. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:39 schrieb Franc: Helmut --- I just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance. That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in which we are exchanging information. FRANC From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com http://usps.com/ : I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Your last line says it all. Rather than go through the hassle of dealing with a lying, thieving buyer and an unresponsive Ebay and PayPal, I prefer someone like you just pass. That's my choice. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:42 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, I'm not going to play Paypal's advocate here, but their own regulations are pretty clear, as stated below. Also, Paypal does explicitly NOT offer transport insurance, so they won't take any responsibility if a poster is lost in transport. On the other hand, I figure the average Paypal employee is about as well educated as any other callcenter worker, so I seriously doubt that the person who decided about your claim was even fully aware of the actual Paypal rules and regulations. That, of course, is part of the price of doing business with a multi-national trust. I'm not the expert on the USPS postage system, and being in Germany I certainly shouldn't be. All I can say, I'm frequently receiving packages, sent First Class, with a Certificate of Mailing, with a USPS waybill that was quite obviously purchased online and printed at home. Whether this was done directly through USPS or through stamps.com is beyond my knowledge. All I know is, it can be done and if it IS done by the seller, it saves me a lot of money. Be that as may, as I said before: If a seller is working with me on this, I'll bid, if he doesn't, I usually pass. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:28 schrieb Franc: I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal. I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC -Original Message- From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com http://USPS.com/ in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Bruce, my thoughts exactly. It's been a long time since I sold on posters on eBay, and while I (obviously...) ship a lot less than you do, the 'evil, lying buyer' is also a non-existent phenomenon over here. I ship all over the world, and I have NEVER encountered this type of person. Helmut I wonder if those evil, lying Europeans aren't solely an eBay phenomenon. We sell on our site and on Amazon and have LOTS of overseas buyers (and of course we accept PayPal from overseas customers), and we almost never have even a single problem. I am thinking eBay is a magnet for scam artists (I have seen Youtube videos telling how you can get almost anything free on eBay, simply by buying it with PayPal and then putting in a false claim, thus getting your money back AND the item. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68
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I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this. Domestic shipping is a breeze for now. What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post Office to UPS or FED EX is anybody's guess.* We use USPS for most shipment. International shipping has gotten very expensive. It not uncommon for the dollar amount of the shipping to outstrip the value of the poster. Yet some international buyers do not balk at paying the money. Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Fortunately and finally, all of these items but one finally arrived. We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same strictures as those who do business on USPS.com . * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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Use stamps.com. you can ship First Class Int and get insurance and tracking. Peter Contarino From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:50 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this. Domestic shipping is a breeze for now. What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post Office to UPS or FED EX is anybody's guess.* We use USPS for most shipment. International shipping has gotten very expensive. It not uncommon for the dollar amount of the shipping to outstrip the value of the poster. Yet some international buyers do not balk at paying the money. Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Fortunately and finally, all of these items but one finally arrived. We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same strictures as those who do business on USPS.com . * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent
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Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Dear Kirby and Freeman, within the last month, I received a significant number of packages sent First Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some got here within less than ten days, all of them were delivered straight to my mailbox. USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my experience, this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail recently: The first one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice from customs that I can pick it up, so I'm going to waste half a work day on that one. (And we're talking about a value of merely US-$50 here.) The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace of it so far and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number. I do not doubt that he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no here yet. If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller, I'm perfectly happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this seller, I would have been happy to do so in this case, all I would have requested is postage at actual cost and the said Certificate of Mailing, and he wouldn't have any worries. On the other hand, when I'm made to pay for Priority and the seller can't show the tracking number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order has not arrived after a month. In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 items that were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for both incoming AND outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers who never actually shipped my order. To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day experience, Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of my money AND my time through the now inevitable customs hassle, so unless I'm really crazy about something and/or it's an irresistible deal, I more and more avoid sellers who are unwilling to work with me on this. Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Well said, Helmut, and your examples of what it has cost you to both ship and receive items to Germany certainly shows that the high shipping prices, discussed by others, DO NOT need to be charged to clients. It's simply another way for sellers to line their pockets with additional cash, especially when no secondary, cheaper shipping methods are offered. 40.00 to mail a single lobby card to the UK?? THAT is absurd and beyond unwarranted. It's no different than the seller in Canada who charges a flat 25.00 (even to the US) to mail what could potentially be a folded, 99 cent poster. Outrageous. -KL On 12/12/11, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Dear Kirby and Freeman, within the last month, I received a significant number of packages sent First Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some got here within less than ten days, all of them were delivered straight to my mailbox. USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my experience, this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail recently: The first one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice from customs that I can pick it up, so I'm going to waste half a work day on that one. (And we're talking about a value of merely US-$50 here.) The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace of it so far and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number. I do not doubt that he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no here yet. If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller, I'm perfectly happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this seller, I would have been happy to do so in this case, all I would have requested is postage at actual cost and the said Certificate of Mailing, and he wouldn't have any worries. On the other hand, when I'm made to pay for Priority and the seller can't show the tracking number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order has not arrived after a month. In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 items that were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for both incoming AND outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers who never actually shipped my order. To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day experience, Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of my money AND my time through the now inevitable customs hassle, so unless I'm really crazy about something and/or it's an irresistible deal, I more and more avoid sellers who are unwilling to work with me on this. Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Helmut, To Germany and England, for me to send a lobby card or a folded one sheet, it is always $33 to $36, priority mail. I think Franc was just rounding. That said, one has to go to the Post Office counter to ship overseas, a rule that has everything to do with post 9/11 security. The cheaper rates you are seeing are possibly those rates for the standardized pre-printed Priority Mail boxes that one acquires from the post office. But those boxes do not safely ship a valuable lobby card..they are just a couple of inches short of adequate protection from the gorillas handling between here and there. And don't get me started on those people who simply leave said boxes flattened and ship a valuable piece sandwiched in between two of them just to save money on cardboard. Also in response to others, I have absolutely NOT had luck with timely delivery overseas via first class. I have tried several times with an inexpensive photo, lobby or Belgium poster and almost always its an extended snails pace which ultimately results in distressed emails inquiring as to the arrival of their purchase. Believe me this is about satisfying the customer in getting their treasures to them in a timely fashion and not just to spend more of their money trying to keep the Post Office afloat. fwf On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote: Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Helmut, it isn't just about the $5, the facts are that his ebay page flatly misrepresents what was supposed to happen, that my package was going to be shipped by Priority Mail, for $8. It was not You know me too well to think that I would do the same thing and you may or may not know that my secretary Anna regularly lets buyers know if the postage money they sent to get their items shipped was too much, and they therefore have a credit of some nature. She keeps a list by her desk to reference. my fees for shipping do include a small amount - maybe a couple bucks - to cover supplies used a tiny bit for labor and I allowed the fleaBay jackass something for that, but I do not charge anyone $5 to put the package in my car drive over to the post office. Also, I think many people will agree, that this is happening too much now on these jackass fleaBay sellers AND it is strictly prohibited by the fleaBay rules. I did file a report, but the time involved in trying to find the right complaint forms at ebay is ridiculous and to be honest, fleaBay does something that goes against a potential buyer seeing a true feedback rating for the sellers because they drop off ratings over 12 months old, and if you go into the guy's feedback file, you can see he has a few complaints about just this issue, but they were more than 12 months old (one just barely) so his feedback is 100%, giving buyers a false sense that he is a good seller. the good news for buyers following me? this donkey only has one feedback comment for the past 12 months (maybe he was staying off with the lowered rating?) and so when I neg him, he'll be at 50% and the likelihood he will be selling anything to anyone with a 50% rating is pretty close to zero and that is EXACTLY WHAT FEEDBACK IS FOR - to warn other potential buyers that the seller is a complete and utter moron who cannot be trusted Rich At 04:16 AM 12/12/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of
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I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such. Helmut Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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you are 100% correct Helmut, that dealers are not meant to profit from shipping/packaging costs I can't sell you something if I can't ship it to you if I'm not going to be happy with the price I get for what I sell you, then I should start it higher, where I will be happy of course, in my case, as all MoviePosterBid.com bidders know - I'm happy with whatever I get for any particular item, even when something sells for just 99 cents, but to a tee, almost every fleaBay seller whom I have this gripe with loves to add what a great price the item is even with the extra charge it's the same as stealing, he's picking my pocket At 11:06 AM 12/12/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such. Helmut Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I pay an employee to review all 500 orders we send each week, and we refund anyone who paid more than $1 over the cost of shipping plus $3 for packaging supplies and third party insurance. We send lots of $2 and $3 refunds (plus lots more to people who pay multiple shipping charges on stuff that can be combined). I figure this is far more effective advertising than buying splashy ads and printing elaborate catalogs. Bruce On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such. Helmut Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. *The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service*. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegroupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal. I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC -Original Message- From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add
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Helmut --- I just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance. That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in which we are exchanging information. FRANC From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This free market BS is just that. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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And you have no idea what you're talking about, since I made not one penny on the shipment to the UK. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:13 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Well said, Helmut, and your examples of what it has cost you to both ship and receive items to Germany certainly shows that the high shipping prices, discussed by others, DO NOT need to be charged to clients. It's simply another way for sellers to line their pockets with additional cash, especially when no secondary, cheaper shipping methods are offered. 40.00 to mail a single lobby card to the UK?? THAT is absurd and beyond unwarranted. It's no different than the seller in Canada who charges a flat 25.00 (even to the US) to mail what could potentially be a folded, 99 cent poster. Outrageous. -KL On 12/12/11, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Dear Kirby and Freeman, within the last month, I received a significant number of packages sent First Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some got here within less than ten days, all of them were delivered straight to my mailbox. USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my experience, this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail recently: The first one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice from customs that I can pick it up, so I'm going to waste half a work day on that one. (And we're talking about a value of merely US-$50 here.) The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace of it so far and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number. I do not doubt that he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no here yet. If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller, I'm perfectly happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this seller, I would have been happy to do so in this case, all I would have requested is postage at actual cost and the said Certificate of Mailing, and he wouldn't have any worries. On the other hand, when I'm made to pay for Priority and the seller can't show the tracking number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order has not arrived after a month. In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 items that were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for both incoming AND outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers who never actually shipped my order. To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day experience, Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of my money AND my time through the now inevitable customs hassle, so unless I'm really crazy about something and/or it's an irresistible deal, I more and more avoid sellers who are unwilling to work with me on this. Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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in our case, we don't send the refunds anymore - we let you know you have a credit. it's more time consuming to send the refunds and all buyers do not use Paypal (some actually do send checks) At 11:14 AM 12/12/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I pay an employee to review all 500 orders we send each week, and we refund anyone who paid more than $1 over the cost of shipping plus $3 for packaging supplies and third party insurance. We send lots of $2 and $3 refunds (plus lots more to people who pay multiple shipping charges on stuff that can be combined). I figure this is far more effective advertising than buying splashy ads and printing elaborate catalogs. Bruce On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Helmut Hamm mailto:texasmu...@web.detexasmu...@web.de wrote: I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such. Helmut Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) http://www.emovieposter.com/our site http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.htmlour auctions [] Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. you can indeed get a slip that the USPS rubber stamps for this service Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Sellers are not supposed to make money on shipping but postal fees are not the only cost of shipping. There is also the cost of packing materials and in some cases labor. Now if one ships in a flimsy manner to keep costs to a minimum, package materials cost virtually nothing but if one packages securely there is an expense for mailers or boxes and cardboards that have to be calculated in estimating the cost of shipping. Bruce used to have a nice page explaining to the uninformed what goes into handling. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:07 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such. Helmut Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Franc people don't realize that the USPS is an integral part of our nations history and that it was created as a vehicle to promote economic benefit. For more than 150 years, Postmaster General was a Cabinet level position (eliminated in the 1970s) The original purpose of the USPS was to provide a way for newspapers, magazines and advertising to reach consumers, which in turn created an economic engine. This is still the purpose of the USPS. 70% of all revenues come from bulk and commercial mailings (yeah that junkmail). However, if we eliminate the USPS, the cost of shipping packages are much higher with UPS and Fed-X and I have no doubt that it would kill my business and other mail-order sales. we need it and anyone who says otherwise is simply uninformed At 11:42 AM 12/12/2011, Franc wrote: Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This free market BS is just that. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Well put, Richard. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:56 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc people don't realize that the USPS is an integral part of our nations history and that it was created as a vehicle to promote economic benefit. For more than 150 years, Postmaster General was a Cabinet level position (eliminated in the 1970s) The original purpose of the USPS was to provide a way for newspapers, magazines and advertising to reach consumers, which in turn created an economic engine. This is still the purpose of the USPS. 70% of all revenues come from bulk and commercial mailings (yeah that junkmail). However, if we eliminate the USPS, the cost of shipping packages are much higher with UPS and Fed-X and I have no doubt that it would kill my business and other mail-order sales. we need it and anyone who says otherwise is simply uninformed At 11:42 AM 12/12/2011, Franc wrote: Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This free market BS is just that. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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That's true but unlike USPS.com, stamps.com charges a monthly fee in additional to the cost of postage. That's fine, if you get a lot of foreign orders and need to avail yourself of this service but for one or two foreign orders a month, it doesn't pay to do this, especially since buyers like Helmut and lovenoir2 would object if you attempted to amortized this fee in connection with the shipping fee for their orders. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:33 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Use stamps.com. you can ship First Class Int and get insurance and tracking. Peter Contarino From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:50 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this. Domestic shipping is a breeze for now. What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post Office to UPS or FED EX is anybody's guess.* We use USPS for most shipment. International shipping has gotten very expensive. It not uncommon for the dollar amount of the shipping to outstrip the value of the poster. Yet some international buyers do not balk at paying the money. Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Fortunately and finally, all of these items but one finally arrived. We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same strictures as those who do business on USPS.com . * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his
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I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I'm with you, David, in fact I've said the same thing to various people for years, about how incredible it is that we pay less than 50 cents to hand someone an envelope and have them deliver it by hand a few days later anywhere else in the country. People order pizzas and pay a delivery fee AND tip the driver a few dollars, essentially to save themselves a trip to the pizza place, but they balk at paying over 50 cents to have the postal service deliver their mail across the country. It's insane. I wish the USPS would just raise first class postage to whatever amount would put them in the black. (And I think I read somewhere that all it would take would be $0.63 or something!) (Sorry for contributing to the off topicness) -- Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, December 12, 2011 3:20:44 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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there is nothing off-topic about a business integral to happy mail ordering of movie posters I don't care what they charge for a letter - I rarely send such mail, except for Holiday cards next week - but the concept that I would have to ship via UPS, which is considerably more expensive than USPS, is a scary thought. Such a move could be the end of small business mail order in America At 01:41 PM 12/12/2011, Steven Hill wrote: I'm with you, David, in fact I've said the same thing to various people for years, about how incredible it is that we pay less than 50 cents to hand someone an envelope and have them deliver it by hand a few days later anywhere else in the country. People order pizzas and pay a delivery fee AND tip the driver a few dollars, essentially to save themselves a trip to the pizza place, but they balk at paying over 50 cents to have the postal service deliver their mail across the country. It's insane. I wish the USPS would just raise first class postage to whatever amount would put them in the black. (And I think I read somewhere that all it would take would be $0.63 or something!) (Sorry for contributing to the off topicness) -- Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, December 12, 2011 3:20:44 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. -- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible
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David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their service manual. Kirby www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I am not for a tax on email, except for spammers if they had to pay a tax on email, I'd get a lot less of their garbage to deal with everyday At 02:29 PM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their service manual. Kirby http://www.movieart.netwww.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. -- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From: mailto:sa...@comic-art.comsa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
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You nailed it with FedEx Kirby. If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up). They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to purchase insurance for your package. -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their service manual. Kirby www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From:sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site atwww.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to:listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site atwww.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to:listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site
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Absolutely. You have explained it better than I have. I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and NO ONE at Fed Ex -- and I have talked to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to explain it to me. Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) is beyond me. The fee for upper levels of declared value act just like an insurance premium from what I can see. So why it makes a difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart enough to figure that out. I think they fear the inside job. One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and policy holders with Collectibles Insurance can insure through them - it comes with the policy. Kirby On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote: You nailed it with FedEx Kirby. If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up). They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to purchase insurance for your package. -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their service manual. Kirby www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800 From:sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron To:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site atwww.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed
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Exactly, Kirby, third party insurance is the only way when using FedEx. They have a real self serving deal going by offering insurance on items they will NOT insure and selling it all the time to the unsuspecting. I understand Sean made them see it differently on at least one occasion, if I heard correctly, and think that's great. How many thousands of people will not protest once the diamond ring is lost and they have insured it with FedEx thinking all is well? USPO offers Registered mail which is a very secure method as far as I'm concerned. It just takes the snail mail time frame, but you can insure up to hundreds of thousands of dollars. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:11 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Absolutely. You have explained it better than I have. I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and NO ONE at Fed Ex -- and I have talked to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to explain it to me. Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) is beyond me. The fee for upper levels of declared value act just like an insurance premium from what I can see. So why it makes a difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart enough to figure that out. I think they fear the inside job. One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and policy holders with Collectibles Insurance can insure through them - it comes with the policy. Kirby On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote: You nailed it with FedEx Kirby. If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up). They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to purchase insurance for your package. -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their service manual. Kirby www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had
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Grey is right about Registered Mail people don't realize that every person at the post office that handles a Registered Mail item must sign a form so that every person in the chain can be identified if there is a loss and that any overnight stay it makes at any location, it is either in a vault or a locked cage that only one person at the post office can access it's the single way that items over $50,000 can be shipped for financial security without having a specific insurance rider above that level in any policy At 03:23 PM 12/12/2011, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: Exactly, Kirby, third party insurance is the only way when using FedEx. They have a real self serving deal going by offering insurance on items they will NOT insure and selling it all the time to the unsuspecting. I understand Sean made them see it differently on at least one occasion, if I heard correctly, and think that's great. How many thousands of people will not protest once the diamond ring is lost and they have insured it with FedEx thinking all is well? USPO offers Registered mail which is a very secure method as far as I'm concerned. It just takes the snail mail time frame, but you can insure up to hundreds of thousands of dollars. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:11 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Absolutely. You have explained it better than I have. I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and NO ONE at Fed Ex -- and I have talked to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to explain it to me. Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) is beyond me. The fee for upper levels of declared value act just like an insurance premium from what I can see. So why it makes a difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart enough to figure that out. I think they fear the inside job. One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and policy holders with Collectibles Insurance can insure through them - it comes with the policy. Kirby On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote: You nailed it with FedEx Kirby. If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up). They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to purchase insurance for your package. -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their service manual. Kirby www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over the world and in terms
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Adding to what Richard and Grey have said: there is the issue of the money and the issue of the irreplaceability of certain items. With registered mail, you not only get solid insurance but also the internal locked-down handling and tracking that the post office provides. Registered mail items go under lock and key and each handler must sign for each piece they process before passing it on down the line. In my entire career, only one piece of registered mail (it was insured) did not show up. It was coming from Los Angeles to Austin and ended up after tracing/tracking it -- in Mexico. It finally got delivered here safe and sound, and with no need to file the insurance claim. In this case I was especially concerned because it was poster that belonged to a client and it could not be replaced. I don't know if it was the only one, but I had nowhere to go to find a replacement. It is cold comfort to a collector who wants the poster, NOT the five or ten or fifteen or whatever thousand dollars the poster costs. That irreplaceability is something that insurance cannot fix. Kirby On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: Grey is right about Registered Mail people don't realize that every person at the post office that handles a Registered Mail item must sign a form so that every person in the chain can be identified if there is a loss and that any overnight stay it makes at any location, it is either in a vault or a locked cage that only one person at the post office can access it's the single way that items over $50,000 can be shipped for financial security without having a specific insurance rider above that level in any policy At 03:23 PM 12/12/2011, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: Exactly, Kirby, third party insurance is the only way when using FedEx. They have a real self serving deal going by offering insurance on items they will NOT insure and selling it all the time to the unsuspecting. I understand Sean made them see it differently on at least one occasion, if I heard correctly, and think that's great. How many thousands of people will not protest once the diamond ring is lost and they have insured it with FedEx thinking all is well? USPO offers Registered mail which is a very secure method as far as I'm concerned. It just takes the snail mail time frame, but you can insure up to hundreds of thousands of dollars. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:11 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Absolutely. You have explained it better than I have. I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and NO ONE at Fed Ex -- and I have talked to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to explain it to me. Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) is beyond me. The fee for upper levels of declared value act just like an insurance premium from what I can see. So why it makes a difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart enough to figure that out. I think they fear the inside job. One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and policy holders with Collectibles Insurance can insure through them - it comes with the policy. Kirby On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote: You nailed it with FedEx Kirby. If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up). They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to purchase insurance for your package. -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron David, et al If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would help to control spam and frivolous email as well. When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good folks have to hand off that catalog delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure. Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers are intentionally ignoring it. FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary
[MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Looks like he has already gotten a negative on this subject. What a putz... Overbilled s/h. Ignored requests for two weeks to correct. Avoid this seller!! Member id jimmybob999 ( Feedback Score Of 594) Nov-24-10 14:56 Reply by godfatherunclebuzz (Dec-01-10 16:57): Argued over extra dollar in shipping cost. Made contacts. Poor customer. -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 12:44 pm Subject: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped PriorityMail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the cardgot here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Classfor $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don'tuse some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it firstclass for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I donot refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
yeah he's a donk. if you look further, he has several complaints about the same issue it sorta sucks that fleaBay has only made the ratings based on the past 12 months of FB his rating would be about 85% for his entire fleaBay run I'm tired of filing fleaBay complaints to get $5 back. My time is worth more than the $5.. I'll just neg this ahole surprisingly, I have been finding this a more and more common problem and as such I have left more negs the past 6 months than I had in the previous 10 years. I'm totally fed up with these jerks and it's never on the expensive items. always some jackass trying to make an extra few dollars on stuff he feels was undersold At 01:06 PM 12/11/2011, kenwick...@aol.com wrote: Looks like he has already gotten a negative on this subject. What a putz... Overbilled s/h. Ignored requests for two weeks to correct. Avoid this seller!! http://myworld.ebay.com/jimmybob999Member id http://myworld.ebay.com/jimmybob999jimmybob999 ( http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=jimmybob999Feedback Score Ofhttp://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=jimmybob999 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=jimmybob999594 Nov-24-10 14:56 * Reply by godfatherunclebuzz (Dec-01-10 16:57): Argued over extra dollar in shipping cost. Made contacts. Poor customer. -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 12:44 pm Subject: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
I like how he says the water stain is on the back! On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: yeah he's a donk. if you look further, he has several complaints about the same issue it sorta sucks that fleaBay has only made the ratings based on the past 12 months of FB his rating would be about 85% for his entire fleaBay run I'm tired of filing fleaBay complaints to get $5 back. My time is worth more than the $5.. I'll just neg this ahole surprisingly, I have been finding this a more and more common problem and as such I have left more negs the past 6 months than I had in the previous 10 years. I'm totally fed up with these jerks and it's never on the expensive items. always some jackass trying to make an extra few dollars on stuff he feels was undersold At 01:06 PM 12/11/2011, kenwick...@aol.com wrote: Looks like he has already gotten a negative on this subject. What a putz... Overbilled s/h. Ignored requests for two weeks to correct. Avoid this seller!! *Member id http://myworld.ebay.com/jimmybob999*jimmybob999http://myworld.ebay.com/jimmybob999( *Feedback Score Of*http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=jimmybob999 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=jimmybob999 594http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=jimmybob999 Nov-24-10 14:56 - *Reply* by godfatherunclebuzz (Dec-01-10 16:57): Argued over extra dollar in shipping cost. Made contacts. Poor customer. -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 12:44 pm Subject: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. *so I send him a message: *Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine *his response: *Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegroupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Hi Richard --- I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:45 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.