Full text search not matching 2 letter word

2019-01-08 Thread Andrew Wood
Im trying to run a full text query on a two letter keyword 'K7'. I have 
set ft_min_word_len=2 and restarted the server and if I view the system 
vars in Mysql Workbench it shows it is set correctly.


I have then dropped and re-created the index on the descrip column. It 
is an InnoDB table so I cannot do repair table.


Im running the following query which I expect to match the following 
record but it doesnt. Full text searches for other words match OK.


select * from asset where type ='DOCUMENTS' and (match(descrip) against 
('K7' in boolean mode)) ;



+-++--+---+---+--+-+
| id  | type               | descrip           | subtype | 
intendeduse  | location    | assetfileid |

+-++-++---+--+-+
| 153 | DOCUMENTS | Telephone Kiosk No. 7 K7 Interior promo photo from 
field trial.  | PHOTO   | DISPLAY | STORAGE  
| 152 |

+-++--++--+--+-+


Any ideas why this is not working?

Thanks

Andrew



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RE: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword

2013-07-03 Thread lamp
ft_min_word_len=3
stopwords! IDIOT! I was testing using stop words! :)

let me change my test org name.

thanks

> FULLTEXT (at least the MyISAM version) has 3 gotchas:
> ft_min_word_len=4, stopwords, and the 50% rule
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: shawn green [mailto:shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 10:21 AM
>> To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
>> Subject: Re: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> (my response is not top-posted)
>> On 7/2/2013 12:50 PM, l...@afan.net wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Another correction: Searching for "Com", the test org is NOT gonna be
>> > listed but all others will.
>> >
>> > Searching for "Com&" no results at all.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Actually, looks like I'm wrong.
>> >
>> >> For testing purpose I made an org
>> >
>> >> "Comp&Me"
>> >
>> >> When search for "Comp" it's gonna
>> >
>> >> be shown on the list.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> When search for "Comp&" it's also gonna be shown.
>> > But
>> >
>> >> "Construction Company" as well.
>> >
>> >> Then I changed the name of
>> >
>> >> the test org to "Com&Me".
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Searching for "Com", the test org is gonna be listed.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Though, "Com&" no results at
>> >
>> >> all.
>> >
>> >> ?!?
>> >
>> >>
>>
>> >>> Hi to all,
>> >>> I have this full text search query
>> >>> SELECT name, org_id,
>> >>> address_id
>> >>> FROM organization
>> >>> WHERE org_active='Y' AND MATCH(name) AGAINST('AB&C*' IN
>> >> BOOLEAN
>> >>> MODE)
>> >>> and I'm not getting any results. And there IS a org AB&C, Inc.
>> >>> My assumption is the ampersand sign as a part of the keyword.
>> >>> Any idea?
>> >
>>
>> Read this:
>> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/server-system-
>> variables.html#sysvar_ft_boolean_syntax
>>
>> Then search on "Comp Me".
>>
>> Let us know your results.
>>
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>> and
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Re: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword

2013-07-02 Thread lamp



Actually, looks like I'm wrong.
For testing purpose I made an org
"Comp&Me"
When search for "Comp" it's gonna
be shown on the list.

When search for "Comp&" it's also gonna be shown. But
"Construction Company" as well.
Then I changed the name of
the test org to "Com&Me".

Searching for "Com", the test org is gonna be listed.

Though, "Com&" no results at
all.
?!?
�
>

>

>

> Hi to all,

>

>

>

> I have this full text search query

>

> SELECT name, org_id,

>

> address_id

>

>

>

> FROM organization

>

>

>

> WHERE org_active='Y' AND MATCH(name) AGAINST('AB&C*' IN
BOOLEAN

>

> MODE)

>

> and I'm not getting any results. And there IS a org AB&C,

>

> Inc.

>

> My assumption is the ampersand sign as a part of the

>

> keyword.

>

> Any idea?

>

>

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RE: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword

2013-07-02 Thread Rick James
FULLTEXT (at least the MyISAM version) has 3 gotchas:
ft_min_word_len=4, stopwords, and the 50% rule

> -Original Message-
> From: shawn green [mailto:shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 10:21 AM
> To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
> Subject: Re: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword
> 
> Hello,
> 
> (my response is not top-posted)
> On 7/2/2013 12:50 PM, l...@afan.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Another correction: Searching for "Com", the test org is NOT gonna be
> > listed but all others will.
> >
> > Searching for "Com&" no results at all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Actually, looks like I'm wrong.
> >
> >> For testing purpose I made an org
> >
> >> "Comp&Me"
> >
> >> When search for "Comp" it's gonna
> >
> >> be shown on the list.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> When search for "Comp&" it's also gonna be shown.
> > But
> >
> >> "Construction Company" as well.
> >
> >> Then I changed the name of
> >
> >> the test org to "Com&Me".
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Searching for "Com", the test org is gonna be listed.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Though, "Com&" no results at
> >
> >> all.
> >
> >> ?!?
> >
> >>
> 
> >>> Hi to all,
> >>> I have this full text search query
> >>> SELECT name, org_id,
> >>> address_id
> >>> FROM organization
> >>> WHERE org_active='Y' AND MATCH(name) AGAINST('AB&C*' IN
> >> BOOLEAN
> >>> MODE)
> >>> and I'm not getting any results. And there IS a org AB&C, Inc.
> >>> My assumption is the ampersand sign as a part of the keyword.
> >>> Any idea?
> >
> 
> Read this:
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/server-system-
> variables.html#sysvar_ft_boolean_syntax
> 
> Then search on "Comp Me".
> 
> Let us know your results.
> 
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> Software, Engineered to Work Together.
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Re: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword

2013-07-02 Thread lamp



Another correction: Searching for "Com", the test org is NOT
gonna be listed but all others will.

Searching for "Com&" no results at all.

�
�


>

> Actually, looks like I'm wrong.

> For testing purpose I made an org

> "Comp&Me"

> When search for "Comp" it's gonna

> be shown on the list.

>

> When search for "Comp&" it's also gonna be shown.
But

> "Construction Company" as well.

> Then I changed the name of

> the test org to "Com&Me".

>

> Searching for "Com", the test org is gonna be listed.

>

> Though, "Com&" no results at

> all.

> ?!?

> �

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

>> Hi to all,

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

>> I have this full text search query

>

>>

>

>> SELECT name, org_id,

>

>>

>

>> address_id

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

>> FROM organization

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

>> WHERE org_active='Y' AND MATCH(name) AGAINST('AB&C*' IN

> BOOLEAN

>

>>

>

>> MODE)

>

>>

>

>> and I'm not getting any results. And there IS a org AB&C,

>

>>

>

>> Inc.

>

>>

>

>> My assumption is the ampersand sign as a part of the

>

>>

>

>> keyword.

>

>>

>

>> Any idea?

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

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Re: Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword

2013-07-02 Thread shawn green

Hello,

(my response is not top-posted)
On 7/2/2013 12:50 PM, l...@afan.net wrote:




Another correction: Searching for "Com", the test org is NOT
gonna be listed but all others will.

Searching for "Com&" no results at all.

�
�







Actually, looks like I'm wrong.



For testing purpose I made an org



"Comp&Me"



When search for "Comp" it's gonna



be shown on the list.







When search for "Comp&" it's also gonna be shown.

But


"Construction Company" as well.



Then I changed the name of



the test org to "Com&Me".







Searching for "Com", the test org is gonna be listed.







Though, "Com&" no results at



all.



?!?



�



Hi to all,
I have this full text search query
SELECT name, org_id,
address_id
FROM organization
WHERE org_active='Y' AND MATCH(name) AGAINST('AB&C*' IN

BOOLEAN

MODE)
and I'm not getting any results. And there IS a org AB&C,
Inc.
My assumption is the ampersand sign as a part of the
keyword.
Any idea?




Read this:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/server-system-variables.html#sysvar_ft_boolean_syntax

Then search on "Comp Me".

Let us know your results.

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Full text search and & sign as a part of the keyword

2013-07-02 Thread lamp



Hi to all,



I have this full text search query

SELECT name, org_id,

address_id



FROM organization



WHERE org_active='Y' AND MATCH(name) AGAINST('AB&C*' IN BOOLEAN

MODE)

and I'm not getting any results. And there IS a org AB&C,

Inc.

My assumption is the ampersand sign as a part of the

keyword.

Any idea?



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MySQL University session on December 3: Practical Full-Text Search in MySQL

2009-12-02 Thread Stefan Hinz
Practical Full-Text Search in MySQL
http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/Practical_Full-Text_Search_in_MySQL

This Thursday (December 3rd, 16:00 UTC – note the different time), Bill
Karwin will talk about Practical Full-Text Search in MySQL. He'll
introduce and compare five different approaches of full-text search with
MySQL, using built-in functionality as well as third-party tools. It's
interesting to see how vastly performance can vary, depending on which
tools you use for which purposes.

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Re: Full Text Search Problem

2009-04-24 Thread mysupport
Sorry, I don't understand your answer. Could you kindly explain in more details?

Thanks,

Jack


--- On Fri, 4/24/09, zhu dingze  wrote:

From: zhu dingze 
Subject: Re: Full Text Search Problem
To: mysupp...@asuma.com
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 5:57 PM

'Words' shows in more than 50% rows will be regards as a stop words.

2009/4/24 

Hi,

I've a table, 'article' which has a cloumn 'agency'with FULLTEXT 
(agency).

'agency' has six (6) rows of data: 'NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC 
ADMINISTRATION (NOAA), NATIONAL OCEAN SERVICE (NOS), DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE'.

When I did a search like the following;

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM article WHERE MATCH (agency) AGAINST ('DEPARTMENT 
OF COMMERCE');

It returned count(*) = 0 instead of count(*) = 6.

Could you kindly advise me what did I do wrong?

Thanks,

Jack





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Re: Full Text Search Problem

2009-04-24 Thread zhu dingze
'Words' shows in more than 50% rows will be regards as a stop words.

2009/4/24 

> Hi,
>
> I've a table, 'article' which has a cloumn 'agency'with FULLTEXT (agency).
>
> 'agency' has six (6) rows of data: 'NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC
> ADMINISTRATION (NOAA), NATIONAL OCEAN SERVICE (NOS), DEPARTMENT OF
> COMMERCE'.
>
> When I did a search like the following;
>
> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM article WHERE MATCH (agency) AGAINST ('DEPARTMENT OF
> COMMERCE');
>
> It returned count(*) = 0 instead of count(*) = 6.
>
> Could you kindly advise me what did I do wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
>
>
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Full Text Search Problem

2009-04-24 Thread mysupport
Hi,

I've a table, 'article' which has a cloumn 'agency'with FULLTEXT (agency).

'agency' has six (6) rows of data: 'NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC 
ADMINISTRATION (NOAA), NATIONAL OCEAN SERVICE (NOS), DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE'.

When I did a search like the following;

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM article WHERE MATCH (agency) AGAINST ('DEPARTMENT OF 
COMMERCE');

It returned count(*) = 0 instead of count(*) = 6.

Could you kindly advise me what did I do wrong?

Thanks,

Jack





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Full Text Search Problem

2009-04-23 Thread mysupport
Hi,

I've a table, 'article' which has a cloumn 'agency'with FULLTEXT (agency).

'agency' has six (6) rows of data: 'NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC 
ADMINISTRATION (NOAA), NATIONAL OCEAN SERVICE (NOS), DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE'.

When I did a search like the following;

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM article WHERE MATCH (agency) AGAINST ('DEPARTMENT OF 
COMMERCE');

It returned count(*) = 0 instead of count(*) = 6.

Could you kindly advise me what did I do wrong?

Thanks,

Jack





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Full Text Search Problem

2009-04-23 Thread mysupport
Hi,

I've a table, 'article' which has a cloumn 'agency'with FULLTEXT (agency).

'agency' has six (6) rows of data: 'NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC 
ADMINISTRATION (NOAA), NATIONAL OCEAN SERVICE (NOS), DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE'.

When I did a search like the following;

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM article WHERE MATCH (agency) AGAINST ('DEPARTMENT OF 
COMMERCE');

It returned count(*) = 0 instead of count(*) = 6.

Could you kindly advise me what did I do wrong?

Thanks,

Jack





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full text search ft_min_word_len

2008-12-16 Thread Madan Thapa
Hi,


When I use ft_min_word_len=3 under [mysqld] section, mysql fails to start.

ft_min_word_len=3 parameter has been added under [myisamchk] only , which
works.



mysql  Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.67, for redhat-linux-gnu (i686) using readline
5.1




Anyone know about this?


Full-text search and queries sensitive to accents

2008-09-26 Thread Fco. Mario Barcala
Hi all:

I read in mysql documentation that searches are case-insensitive by
default but this default behaviour can be changed using a latin1_bin
collation. But, is there any way to make searches sensitive or
unsensitive to accents, umlauts, etc.?

I suppose that queries are accent sensitive by default. Is there any way
to change this in mysql 5.1?

Thanks in advance,

  Mario Barcala


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Re: Full text search and highlight results

2008-09-09 Thread lbarcala
> MySQL has no idea how you are presenting the data (html, rtf, etc.),
> so it couldn't hilight the words for you. It should really be that
> tricky using grep and PHP.
>
> Brent

I have my data as pure text: no html, rtf or something else. That is, one
table with two columns: one for the document id and another for the
document text. I include, for example, the clear text of newpaper news.

Several databases include a function or something to do this in some way:
Oracle, Postgres, etc. It's a surprise for me that mysql has nothing about
it.

Thanks,

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Re: Full text search and highlight results

2008-09-08 Thread Brent Baisley
MySQL has no idea how you are presenting the data (html, rtf, etc.),  
so it couldn't hilight the words for you. It should really be that  
tricky using grep and PHP.


Brent

On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Fco. Mario Barcala Rodríguez wrote:


Hi all:

I was reading documentation and searching into mail archives but I
didn't find a solution to the following question:

Is there any way to highligh results from a full-text search? I know
some tricky methods using PHP but I want to know if mysql (5.0 or 5.1
versions) offers some methos or function to do this.

I want to write the keywords in context (KWIC) boldface and some
previous an following words around them normalface.

Thanks in advance,

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Full text search and highlight results

2008-09-08 Thread Fco. Mario Barcala
Hi all:

I was reading documentation and searching into mail archives but I
didn't find a solution to the following question:

Is there any way to highligh results from a full-text search? I know
some tricky methods using PHP but I want to know if mysql (5.0 or 5.1
versions) offers some methos or function to do this.

I want to write the keywords in context (KWIC) boldface and some
previous an following words around them normalface.

Thanks in advance,

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[RFH] Full Text search

2008-02-26 Thread Imran M Yousuf
Dear Users,

I am facing a problem related to full text search. I am trying to
search non latin characters with no success :(.

I am trying the following queries for searching and only the English one works.

SELECT * FROM bangla_test WHERE MATCH(bn_test) AGAINST('নাম নাই' in
boolean mode)
SELECT * FROM bangla_test WHERE MATCH(bn_test) AGAINST('test' in boolean mode)
SELECT * FROM bangla_test WHERE MATCH(bn_test) AGAINST('日系人' in boolean mode)

The dump of the database is following this paragraph. I would be
grateful if someone could be point me what I am doing wrong.


-- MySQL dump 10.11
--
-- Host: localhostDatabase: test
-- --
-- Server version   5.0.38-Ubuntu_0ubuntu1.2-log

/*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT=@@CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT */;
/*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS=@@CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS */;
/*!40101 SET @OLD_COLLATION_CONNECTION=@@COLLATION_CONNECTION */;
/*!40101 SET NAMES utf8 */;
/*!40103 SET @OLD_TIME_ZONE=@@TIME_ZONE */;
/*!40103 SET TIME_ZONE='+00:00' */;
/*!40014 SET @OLD_UNIQUE_CHECKS=@@UNIQUE_CHECKS, UNIQUE_CHECKS=0 */;
/*!40014 SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS,
FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0 */;
/*!40101 SET @OLD_SQL_MODE=@@SQL_MODE, SQL_MODE='NO_AUTO_VALUE_ON_ZERO' */;
/*!40111 SET @OLD_SQL_NOTES=@@SQL_NOTES, SQL_NOTES=0 */;

--
-- Current Database: `honeybase`
--

/*!4 DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS `test`*/;

CREATE DATABASE /*!32312 IF NOT EXISTS*/ `test` /*!40100 DEFAULT
CHARACTER SET latin1 */;

USE `honeybase`;

--
-- Table structure for table `bangla_test`
--

DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `bangla_test`;
CREATE TABLE `bangla_test` (
  `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
  `bn_test` varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`id`),
  FULLTEXT KEY `bn_full_text` (`bn_test`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM AUTO_INCREMENT=6 DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8;

--
-- Dumping data for table `bangla_test`
--

LOCK TABLES `bangla_test` WRITE;
/*!4 ALTER TABLE `bangla_test` DISABLE KEYS */;
set autocommit=0;
INSERT INTO `bangla_test` VALUES (1,'নাম
নাই'),(2,'test'),(3,'日系人'),(4,'another test'),(5,'dingdong');
/*!4 ALTER TABLE `bangla_test` ENABLE KEYS */;
UNLOCK TABLES;
commit;

/*!40103 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;

/*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;
/*!40014 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;
/*!40014 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;
/*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;
/*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;
/*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;
/*!40111 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */;

-- Dump completed on 2008-02-27  5:41:23

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Full Text Search

2008-01-17 Thread ashish.sharma

hi all,

i just want to know whether it is useful to alter the 50% threshold scheme
that mysql uses by default ,is it beneficial in any way regarding
serach(either by increasing or decreasing its value)or is it good to use
default value of 50% only.

which is better (altering the file to change 50% value or using default 50
%)

thanx and regards
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R: full text search on multiple tables

2008-01-09 Thread Nanni Claudio
As Sebastian Mendel wrote:
you can use a union,
you can mask the fact you are dealing with fields coming from three different 
tables renaming the fields of interest (the fields on which you make the 
search) with the same name.
Something like this should works, it does with me:

SELECT "I'M A BOOK",ID_BOOK as ID_TO_RETURN
FROM Books T1
WHERE TITLE like '%..whatever..%'
UNION

SELECT "I'M AN AUTHOR",ID_AUTHOR as ID_TO_RETURN
FROM Authors T1
WHERE FIRST_NAME like '%..whatever..&' OR LAST_NAME like 
'%..whatever..&'
UNION

SELECT "I'M A NEWS",ID_NEWS as ID_TO_RETURN
FROM News T1
WHERE TITLE like '%..whatever..&' OR CONTENT like '%..whatever..&'


Aloha!
Claudio Nanni



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Oggetto: full text search on multiple tables

Hello list
I have to make a full text search and I want to do it in many tables.
I have deferent tables for books authors and news.
Any ideas how to do it?
Thank you
Nikos


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Re: full text search on multiple tables

2008-01-09 Thread nikos

That is a grate solution.
The problem is that I must have deferent links for each response.
That's the tricky thing!
Thank you

Sebastian Mendel wrote:

nikos schrieb:
  

Hello list
I have to make a full text search and I want to do it in many tables.
I have deferent tables for books authors and news.
Any ideas how to do it?



three separate queries or an UNION

  


Re: full text search on multiple tables

2008-01-09 Thread Baron Schwartz
On Jan 9, 2008 8:36 AM, Sebastian Mendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nikos schrieb:
> > Hello list
> > I have to make a full text search and I want to do it in many tables.
> > I have deferent tables for books authors and news.
> > Any ideas how to do it?
>
> three separate queries or an UNION

Or a Boolean mode search.

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Re: full text search on multiple tables

2008-01-09 Thread Sebastian Mendel
nikos schrieb:
> Hello list
> I have to make a full text search and I want to do it in many tables.
> I have deferent tables for books authors and news.
> Any ideas how to do it?

three separate queries or an UNION

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full text search on multiple tables

2008-01-09 Thread nikos

Hello list
I have to make a full text search and I want to do it in many tables.
I have deferent tables for books authors and news.
Any ideas how to do it?
Thank you
Nikos


Re: Fast relevance sorting of full text search results

2008-01-09 Thread Sebastian Mendel
Urms schrieb:
> I'm using pretty standard approach to sorting search results by relevancy:
> 
> SELECT DISTINCT product_name, 
> MATCH (keywords) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN MODE) AS
> rate
> FROM _TT 
> WHERE MATCH ( keywords ) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN
> MODE ) >0
> ORDER BY rate DESC
> 
> It works fine as long as the quantity of results is not big. Once the
> quantity is about 50,000 and more (I have a very big database) the query
> starts working way too slow. Total number of records is about 4 million. It
> takes about 2 sec when there are 50,000 records in the result but at the
> same time it takes only about 0.006 sec without ORDER BY clause. 

you should reformat your query or table structure

for a quick solution:

probably with 50.000 records it exceeds your myisam_sort_buffer_size or
sort_buffer_size, try to raise them

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Re: Fast relevance sorting of full text search results

2008-01-06 Thread Shawn Green

Urms wrote:

I'm using pretty standard approach to sorting search results by relevancy:

SELECT DISTINCT product_name, 
MATCH (keywords) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN MODE) AS

rate
FROM _TT 
WHERE MATCH ( keywords ) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN

MODE ) >0
ORDER BY rate DESC

It works fine as long as the quantity of results is not big. Once the
quantity is about 50,000 and more (I have a very big database) the query
starts working way too slow. Total number of records is about 4 million. It
takes about 2 sec when there are 50,000 records in the result but at the
same time it takes only about 0.006 sec without ORDER BY clause. 


I understand that ORDER BY is time consuming but maybe someone knows a
different way to have sorting by relevancy.

Thanks in advance!


I think it's your SELECT DISTINCT that is slowing you down. For each new 
row being considered for inclusion to your result set, you are asking 
the engine to compare that row against all other rows you already have 
in the set. So what's happening is that you are doing a longer and 
longer linear search the larger your datasets become.


One option is to cache your results in a temporary table then 
de-duplicate your results from there.


Another option is to create a temporary table with a UNIQUE key on the 
columns you want to remain unique and use an INSERT IGNORE. Because of 
the UNIQUE key (or PRIMARY KEY if that's your choice) you will be doing 
an indexed search of all values rather than a linear search through the 
entire list. This would look something like:


CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE tmpFT_results (
  product_name 
, rate 
, primary key (product_name)
) ENGINE = MEMORY;

INSERT IGNORE tmpFT_results
SELECT product_name,
MATCH (keywords) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN MODE) AS
rate
FROM _TT
WHERE MATCH ( keywords ) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN
MODE ) >0;

SELECT product_name, rate
FROM tmpFT_results
ORDER BY rate DESC;

Sure it's three separate steps but it's tuned to the process you are 
trying to perform. The SELECT DISTINCT processing has no idea that you 
only need to keep the values of product_name distinct as we would hope 
the `rate` component may be duplicated.


If there is the possibility of different `rate` results for the same 
product_name value then you may also want to use the temporary table 
method to somehow weight (sum or average comes to mind) the match values 
across all responses before returning the results.


I hope these ideas help your performance and search accuracy.

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Fast relevance sorting of full text search results

2008-01-01 Thread Urms

I'm using pretty standard approach to sorting search results by relevancy:

SELECT DISTINCT product_name, 
MATCH (keywords) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN MODE) AS
rate
FROM _TT 
WHERE MATCH ( keywords ) AGAINST ('CONSOLIDATED* 16* bearing*' IN BOOLEAN
MODE ) >0
ORDER BY rate DESC

It works fine as long as the quantity of results is not big. Once the
quantity is about 50,000 and more (I have a very big database) the query
starts working way too slow. Total number of records is about 4 million. It
takes about 2 sec when there are 50,000 records in the result but at the
same time it takes only about 0.006 sec without ORDER BY clause. 

I understand that ORDER BY is time consuming but maybe someone knows a
different way to have sorting by relevancy.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-27 Thread Jan Kirchhoff

mos schrieb:
I posted this message twice in the past 3 days, and it never gets on 
the mailing list. Why?

Here it is again:

I have a Text field that contains paragraph text and for security 
reasons I need to have it encrypted. If I do this, how can I still 
implement full text search on it?
Also, I have a lot of Float columns that need to be protected but the 
user has to use comparison operators like ">" and "<" on them. Any 
recommendations?

Mike,
What size ist the database?
Could you create some kind of (temporary) table holding the data 
unencrypted?
As fulltext search is only possible on myisam tables, you might want to 
put this on a ramdisk and create it during mysql startup (just make a 
symlink like /var/lib/mysql/UnencryptedDatabase -> /ramdisk/ and use the 
|--init-file-Paramter for mysqld to create and fill the table).
It would at least make it more difficult to get the data for somebody 
who has physical access to the machine as long as you have all your 
partitions encrypted as well have to enter your password during startup.


||I know there is still danger: somebody at the ISP could shut down the 
server and modify your initrd and try to get you password when you enter 
it during startup, but as long as you won't host the machine yourself, 
there probably is no better option. Get rackspace that has doors and can 
be locked... a little more security, but usually the ISP has a second 
key in their safe :(
||Or you might set it up so you have to enter 2 Passwords, the first one 
to decrypt and start a small program that checksums the kernel and 
initrd that is in memory, and then a second one to mount the partitions...|

|
If the value of the data is really a million, host it on your own and 
install security systems etc. and a 24/7 NOC keeping an eye on your 
server looking for hackers and so on.

If your budget is only $100/month I would do the way I described above.
|||
|Jan|
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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread William Newton
If you are going to rely on obfuscation to protect valuable data, you might 
want to consider not posting the particular method you will use on a public 
mailing list. 

I think any method you implement will lower the overall security of the system. 
But, if you must search for encrypted text, you could have another 
representation of the text salted and hashed word for word. Then salt and hash 
each search word and search for it in the hashed text. You're still leaking 
information about word popularity if you do this which may help a determined 
attacker.

- Original Message 
From: Baron Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: mos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:54:11 PM
Subject: Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text  search? 
3rd Attempt ++


> I also need to protect a couple dozen Float fields and thought I
 could 
> obscure them a bit by adding an offset to them based on an encrypted
 id 
> stored with each row. It is not going to be as good as encryption but
 
> will help to obfuscate the data.

How much will obfuscation save you?  Are you saving nickels and dimes
 to 
protect millions of dollars?  I've seen people get burned by rolling 
their own encryption (I could tell you a great war story about a 
consultant I worked with who invented "encryption" for SSNs in a
 database).

An insurance policy is something else to consider.  Heck, buy the 
insurance and do weak obfuscation, then get the insurance money and go 
to Mexico.  "... I could put strychnine in the guacamole..."

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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread Baron Schwartz
I also need to protect a couple dozen Float fields and thought I could 
obscure them a bit by adding an offset to them based on an encrypted id 
stored with each row. It is not going to be as good as encryption but 
will help to obfuscate the data.


How much will obfuscation save you?  Are you saving nickels and dimes to 
protect millions of dollars?  I've seen people get burned by rolling 
their own encryption (I could tell you a great war story about a 
consultant I worked with who invented "encryption" for SSNs in a database).


An insurance policy is something else to consider.  Heck, buy the 
insurance and do weak obfuscation, then get the insurance money and go 
to Mexico.  "... I could put strychnine in the guacamole..."


Baron

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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread mos

At 01:47 PM 10/26/2007, you wrote:

On 10/26/07, Baron Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > mos wrote:
> >>
> >> The data is quite valuable because there is a lot of competition in
> >> this particular marketplace and my competitors would like to get their
> >> hands on it.  I've spent 5 years writing the software and generating
> >> the data. Let's say for the sake of argument the data is worth $1
> >> million. How do I stop my competitor from bribing some flunky at the
> >> ISP into turning over the backup of my data or just e-mailing the
> >> MySQL password file to him? Also I don't want anyone at the ISP
> >> viewing the data or changing it because I'd be liable for any data
> >> errors.
> >
> > Host the machines in-house. I think that could be done for less than a
> > million bucks for a smallish setup.
> >
> > Of course, I've only ever been a bystander with that sort of project, so
> > the figures may be a lot higher than I'm guessing. For instance, you'd
> > want a beefy connection installed, of course. And then there's the
> > salary for someone to administer to everything.
>
> I agree.  If you're using shared hosting, forget about encryption.
> Physical access to the machines ALWAYS trumps every other kind of
> security, so you can't do what you're trying to do (secure data in an
> insecure environment).  Rent a T1 line for $500/mo and charge customers
> what the data is worth.
>
> Baron


I also agree, however for the sake of argument could we assume that the
order of the wording in the entry probably imparts a significant amount of
it's value? If that is the case, I would think creating a second column of
unencrypted  text (with a full text index) which would be nothing more than
copy of the the text with the words in a random order might provide a bit of
the protection that the user is looking for.


Good point. I hadn't thought of that.  :)

I also need to protect a couple dozen Float fields and thought I could 
obscure them a bit by adding an offset to them based on an encrypted id 
stored with each row. It is not going to be as good as encryption but will 
help to obfuscate the data.


Mike  


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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread mos

At 12:31 PM 10/26/2007, you wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mos wrote:


The data is quite valuable because there is a lot of competition in this 
particular marketplace and my competitors would like to get their hands 
on it.  I've spent 5 years writing the software and generating the data. 
Let's say for the sake of argument the data is worth $1 million. How do 
I stop my competitor from bribing some flunky at the ISP into turning 
over the backup of my data or just e-mailing the MySQL password file to 
him? Also I don't want anyone at the ISP viewing the data or changing it 
because I'd be liable for any data errors.
Host the machines in-house. I think that could be done for less than a 
million bucks for a smallish setup.
Of course, I've only ever been a bystander with that sort of project, so 
the figures may be a lot higher than I'm guessing. For instance, you'd 
want a beefy connection installed, of course. And then there's the salary 
for someone to administer to everything.


I agree.  If you're using shared hosting, forget about encryption. 
Physical access to the machines ALWAYS trumps every other kind of 
security, so you can't do what you're trying to do (secure data in an 
insecure environment).


Out of curiosity, why can't you use an ISP if the table is encrypted on a 
dedicated server (using a database other than MySQL, say SQLite)? The pw 
would be entered via VPN and is not stored in memory or in any file. The 
data on disk is always encrypted and the selected rows are only decrypted 
in memory on the fly. The ISP administrator never sees the pw or the 
unencrypted data.



 Rent a T1 line for $500/mo and charge customers what the data is worth.


Yes, that will solve the problem. I'd have to incur more up front costs but 
security would be under my control.


Mike  


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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Wultsch
On 10/26/07, Baron Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > mos wrote:
> >>
> >> The data is quite valuable because there is a lot of competition in
> >> this particular marketplace and my competitors would like to get their
> >> hands on it.  I've spent 5 years writing the software and generating
> >> the data. Let's say for the sake of argument the data is worth $1
> >> million. How do I stop my competitor from bribing some flunky at the
> >> ISP into turning over the backup of my data or just e-mailing the
> >> MySQL password file to him? Also I don't want anyone at the ISP
> >> viewing the data or changing it because I'd be liable for any data
> >> errors.
> >
> > Host the machines in-house. I think that could be done for less than a
> > million bucks for a smallish setup.
> >
> > Of course, I've only ever been a bystander with that sort of project, so
> > the figures may be a lot higher than I'm guessing. For instance, you'd
> > want a beefy connection installed, of course. And then there's the
> > salary for someone to administer to everything.
>
> I agree.  If you're using shared hosting, forget about encryption.
> Physical access to the machines ALWAYS trumps every other kind of
> security, so you can't do what you're trying to do (secure data in an
> insecure environment).  Rent a T1 line for $500/mo and charge customers
> what the data is worth.
>
> Baron


I also agree, however for the sake of argument could we assume that the
order of the wording in the entry probably imparts a significant amount of
it's value? If that is the case, I would think creating a second column of
unencrypted  text (with a full text index) which would be nothing more than
copy of the the text with the words in a random order might provide a bit of
the protection that the user is looking for.


Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread Baron Schwartz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mos wrote:


The data is quite valuable because there is a lot of competition in 
this particular marketplace and my competitors would like to get their 
hands on it.  I've spent 5 years writing the software and generating 
the data. Let's say for the sake of argument the data is worth $1 
million. How do I stop my competitor from bribing some flunky at the 
ISP into turning over the backup of my data or just e-mailing the 
MySQL password file to him? Also I don't want anyone at the ISP 
viewing the data or changing it because I'd be liable for any data 
errors.


Host the machines in-house. I think that could be done for less than a 
million bucks for a smallish setup.


Of course, I've only ever been a bystander with that sort of project, so 
the figures may be a lot higher than I'm guessing. For instance, you'd 
want a beefy connection installed, of course. And then there's the 
salary for someone to administer to everything.


I agree.  If you're using shared hosting, forget about encryption. 
Physical access to the machines ALWAYS trumps every other kind of 
security, so you can't do what you're trying to do (secure data in an 
insecure environment).  Rent a T1 line for $500/mo and charge customers 
what the data is worth.


Baron

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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread mysql

mos wrote:


The data is quite valuable because there is a lot of competition in this 
particular marketplace and my competitors would like to get their hands 
on it.  I've spent 5 years writing the software and generating the data. 
Let's say for the sake of argument the data is worth $1 million. How do 
I stop my competitor from bribing some flunky at the ISP into turning 
over the backup of my data or just e-mailing the MySQL password file to 
him? Also I don't want anyone at the ISP viewing the data or changing it 
because I'd be liable for any data errors.


Host the machines in-house. I think that could be done for less than a 
million bucks for a smallish setup.


Of course, I've only ever been a bystander with that sort of project, so 
the figures may be a lot higher than I'm guessing. For instance, you'd 
want a beefy connection installed, of course. And then there's the 
salary for someone to administer to everything.


brian


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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread mos

Ian,

At 09:36 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:

On 26 Oct 2007 at 9:17, mos wrote:

> I posted this message twice in the past 3 days, and it never gets on the
> mailing list. Why?
> Here it is again:
>
> I have a Text field that contains paragraph text and for security 
reasons I

> need to have it encrypted. If I do this, how can I still implement full
> text search on it?
> Also, I have a lot of Float columns that need to be protected but the user
> has to use comparison operators like ">" and "<" on them. Any 
recommendations?


Hi,

This is quite a difficult one, and as usual in the field of security 
depends on how valuable

the data is and how difficult you want it to be for an attacker to obtain it.

If you let us know what type of data this is and how well it has to be 
protected, maybe we
can help more. "security reasons" is a bit vague, but I can understand 
that you don't want

to give too much away.


The data is quite valuable because there is a lot of competition in this 
particular marketplace and my competitors would like to get their hands on 
it.  I've spent 5 years writing the software and generating the data. Let's 
say for the sake of argument the data is worth $1 million. How do I stop my 
competitor from bribing some flunky at the ISP into turning over the backup 
of my data or just e-mailing the MySQL password file to him? Also I don't 
want anyone at the ISP viewing the data or changing it because I'd be 
liable for any data errors.


I can say one thing though, in order for the data to be indexed by MySQL , 
it has to be in
an unencrypted form somewhere in the database. There is no way I know to 
get around

this, but I hope someone can correct me :)


I hope so too. :)
There are quite a few databases out there that have transparent encryption 
(Blowfish, AES etc.) and I'm wondering why MySQL haven't implemented it, 
especially now with the new laws that make the company liable for security 
breaches on the web. On the other databases I've used, I haven't noticed 
any speed decrease if the table is encrypted.


Mike 


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Re: How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread Ian
On 26 Oct 2007 at 9:17, mos wrote:

> I posted this message twice in the past 3 days, and it never gets on the 
> mailing list. Why?
> Here it is again:
> 
> I have a Text field that contains paragraph text and for security reasons I 
> need to have it encrypted. If I do this, how can I still implement full 
> text search on it?
> Also, I have a lot of Float columns that need to be protected but the user 
> has to use comparison operators like ">" and "<" on them. Any recommendations?

Hi,

This is quite a difficult one, and as usual in the field of security depends on 
how valuable 
the data is and how difficult you want it to be for an attacker to obtain it.

If you let us know what type of data this is and how well it has to be 
protected, maybe we 
can help more. "security reasons" is a bit vague, but I can understand that you 
don't want 
to give too much away.

I can say one thing though, in order for the data to be indexed by MySQL , it 
has to be in 
an unencrypted form somewhere in the database. There is no way I know to get 
around 
this, but I hope someone can correct me :)

Regards

Ian
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How to encrypt Text and still be able to use full text search? 3rd Attempt ++

2007-10-26 Thread mos
I posted this message twice in the past 3 days, and it never gets on the 
mailing list. Why?

Here it is again:

I have a Text field that contains paragraph text and for security reasons I 
need to have it encrypted. If I do this, how can I still implement full 
text search on it?
Also, I have a lot of Float columns that need to be protected but the user 
has to use comparison operators like ">" and "<" on them. Any recommendations?


TIA
Mike 


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Re: Full Text Search, Storage Engine Types

2007-07-08 Thread Brent Baisley

a) You setup a special index (full text).

b) Full text indexes can only be created on MyISAM table types.

c) MyISAM does support transactions, it works by table locking. If  
you are not specifically using transactions, you don't need to worry  
about it. "not transaction safe" just means that there is no  
mechanism for rolling back actions if a series of dependent actions  
don't get completed.



On Jul 7, 2007, at 5:47 PM, David T. Ashley wrote:


I'm sending this again, because the server seems to have been down for
several hours, and I'm not sure if it went out.

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I'd like to do full text search on some fields of some tables, but  
I'm a bit

confused by the documentation.  Questions:

a)How do I set that up (i.e. do I need to use a specific storage  
engine for

a table)?

b)What storage engine(s) are required?

c)Are there any restrictions on "mixing and matching" tables that use
different storage engines in the same database?

d)Do table locking and transactions work the same (for example,  
some of the
storage engines are described as "not transaction safe"--unclear  
what this

means)?

Thanks.



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Re: Full Text Search, Storage Engine Types

2007-07-07 Thread Baron Schwartz

David T. Ashley wrote:

I'm sending this again, because the server seems to have been down for
several hours, and I'm not sure if it went out.


Yes, I've been getting messages from yesterday, too.  But I did get both 
of your messages.  I don't know what's up.


I'd like to do full text search on some fields of some tables, but I'm a 
bit

confused by the documentation.  Questions:

a)How do I set that up (i.e. do I need to use a specific storage engine for
a table)?


Yes, MyISAM only.


b)What storage engine(s) are required?

c)Are there any restrictions on "mixing and matching" tables that use
different storage engines in the same database?

d)Do table locking and transactions work the same (for example, some of the
storage engines are described as "not transaction safe"--unclear what this
means)?


Since it only applies to MyISAM, you have no transactions, and you get 
table-level locks.


See http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/fulltext-search.html for more 
details.


cheers
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Re: Full Text Search, Storage Engines

2007-07-07 Thread Martin Gainty

Good Evening David-

Have you considered using Lucene ?
http://lucene.apache.org/java/docs/

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From: "David T. Ashley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject: Full Text Search, Storage Engines


I'd like to do full text search on some fields of some tables, but I'm a 
bit

confused by the documentation.  Questions:

a)How do I set that up?

b)What storage engines are required?

c)Are there any restrictions on "mixing and matching" tables?

d)Do table locking and transactions work the same?

Thanks.




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Full Text Search, Storage Engine Types

2007-07-07 Thread David T. Ashley

I'm sending this again, because the server seems to have been down for
several hours, and I'm not sure if it went out.

-

I'd like to do full text search on some fields of some tables, but I'm a bit
confused by the documentation.  Questions:

a)How do I set that up (i.e. do I need to use a specific storage engine for
a table)?

b)What storage engine(s) are required?

c)Are there any restrictions on "mixing and matching" tables that use
different storage engines in the same database?

d)Do table locking and transactions work the same (for example, some of the
storage engines are described as "not transaction safe"--unclear what this
means)?

Thanks.


Full Text Search, Storage Engines

2007-07-07 Thread David T. Ashley

I'd like to do full text search on some fields of some tables, but I'm a bit
confused by the documentation.  Questions:

a)How do I set that up?

b)What storage engines are required?

c)Are there any restrictions on "mixing and matching" tables?

d)Do table locking and transactions work the same?

Thanks.


Re: 2 Questions: 1. Full-text Search 2. Loading 1Gb Data

2006-08-18 Thread Dan Buettner

I would encourage people to use date filters on their searches, as
that could help by eliminating rows prior to the fulltext search.

For backup and recovery of a database this size, with MyISAM tables, I
recommend the included 'mysqlhotcopy' script.  Also a mastery of the
mysqldump command will help a lot, and is an alternate method of
achieving backups.

Dan


On 8/18/06, AmirBehzad Eslami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear list,

I'm programming a PHP-driven Search Engine for a newspaper.

Full-text Search with MyISAM Tables, MySQL 4.1.11, PHP 4.3.0
1GB of Text encoded by UTF-8
An average of 1Mbyte Data is inserted to database every day

A common SQL-Query:
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM news_archive
WHERE
 MATCH(news_title, news_text) AGAINST('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE)


1st Question:
Do you recommend any setting to improve the speed?
Is there anything which I should keep in mind?

2nd Question:
Before this project, I was using phpMyAdmin to backup/restore my database. But 
today I need to load 1Gb of data into my tables. There are two problems with 
the phpMyAdmin method: Time-out and Max Post-size.
Is there a better way to perfrom this task?

Thank you in advance,
Behzad

P.S.
Database Scheme:

-- Table structure for table `news_archive`
--

CREATE TABLE `news_archive` (
  `news_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  `news_type_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  `news_date` mediumint(8) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `news_title` text collate utf8_persian_ci NOT NULL,
  `news_text` text collate utf8_persian_ci NOT NULL,
  `news_file` varchar(100) character set ascii NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`news_id`),
  KEY `news_date` (`news_date`),
  KEY `news_type_id` (`news_type_id`),
  FULLTEXT KEY `news_title` (`news_title`,`news_text`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_persian_ci COMMENT='News 
Archive';

-- 

--
-- Table structure for table `news_subtypes`
--

CREATE TABLE `news_subtypes` (
  `news_subtype_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  `news_type_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`news_subtype_id`),
  KEY `news_type_id` (`news_type_id`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_persian_ci;

-- 

--
-- Table structure for table `news_types`
--

CREATE TABLE `news_types` (
  `type_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  `type_name` varchar(100) collate utf8_persian_ci NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`type_id`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_persian_ci COMMENT='News 
Types';



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2 Questions: 1. Full-text Search 2. Loading 1Gb Data

2006-08-18 Thread AmirBehzad Eslami
Dear list,

I'm programming a PHP-driven Search Engine for a newspaper.

Full-text Search with MyISAM Tables, MySQL 4.1.11, PHP 4.3.0
1GB of Text encoded by UTF-8
An average of 1Mbyte Data is inserted to database every day

A common SQL-Query:
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM news_archive
WHERE
 MATCH(news_title, news_text) AGAINST('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE)


1st Question:
Do you recommend any setting to improve the speed?
Is there anything which I should keep in mind?

2nd Question:
Before this project, I was using phpMyAdmin to backup/restore my database. But 
today I need to load 1Gb of data into my tables. There are two problems with 
the phpMyAdmin method: Time-out and Max Post-size.
Is there a better way to perfrom this task?
 
Thank you in advance,
Behzad

P.S.
Database Scheme:

-- Table structure for table `news_archive`
-- 

CREATE TABLE `news_archive` (
  `news_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  `news_type_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  `news_date` mediumint(8) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `news_title` text collate utf8_persian_ci NOT NULL,
  `news_text` text collate utf8_persian_ci NOT NULL,
  `news_file` varchar(100) character set ascii NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`news_id`),
  KEY `news_date` (`news_date`),
  KEY `news_type_id` (`news_type_id`),
  FULLTEXT KEY `news_title` (`news_title`,`news_text`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_persian_ci COMMENT='News 
Archive';

-- 

-- 
-- Table structure for table `news_subtypes`
-- 

CREATE TABLE `news_subtypes` (
  `news_subtype_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  `news_type_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`news_subtype_id`),
  KEY `news_type_id` (`news_type_id`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_persian_ci;

-- 

-- 
-- Table structure for table `news_types`
-- 

CREATE TABLE `news_types` (
  `type_id` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  `type_name` varchar(100) collate utf8_persian_ci NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`type_id`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_persian_ci COMMENT='News 
Types';



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Re: FULL TEXT SEARCH ALTERNATIVES...

2006-08-02 Thread mos

At 05:27 PM 8/2/2006, you wrote:

Hi!

I'm getting a lot of pushback on using mysql for full-text searching on 
over 30,000,000 documents. It's starting to slow down when using more than 
10-15 keywords. Is there an alternative anyone is using?


I don't want to replace the database, but I do need to speed up the 
keyword search.


Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

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Avi,
Take a look at Sphinx from http://www.shodan.ru/projects/sphinx/. 
It's fast and it's free.


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Re: FULL TEXT SEARCH ALTERNATIVES...

2006-08-02 Thread Martin Jespersen
You can tune the fulltext search in a few ways using the config, try 
read up on the various server variables that has to do with fulltext 
indexing. Other than that there is always the option of upgrading the 
hardware :)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi!

I'm getting a lot of pushback on using mysql for full-text searching on over 30,000,000 documents. It's starting to slow down when using more than 10-15 keywords. Is there an alternative anyone is using? 


I don't want to replace the database, but I do need to speed up the keyword 
search.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

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FULL TEXT SEARCH ALTERNATIVES...

2006-08-02 Thread avrombay
Hi!

I'm getting a lot of pushback on using mysql for full-text searching on over 
30,000,000 documents. It's starting to slow down when using more than 10-15 
keywords. Is there an alternative anyone is using? 

I don't want to replace the database, but I do need to speed up the keyword 
search.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

-- Avi

FULL TEXT search and Thai

2006-07-19 Thread Peter Lauri
Best group member,

 

I have a problem. I was going to use FULL TEXT search for my Thai client. It
is working smooth with English text and wordings, the indexing and search
works fine.

 

The problem with Thai text is that words are not separated with a white
space as in English and other languages. I think this screws up the
indexing, and complete sentences are classed as a word. Assume Thai
characters:

 

Thisisasentenceinthai. ButIcannotsearchforsentenceinthatsearch.

 

I want to search for "sentence", but can not. How can this be done? And will
the indexing ever work?

 

Best regards,

Peter Lauri

 

 



Re: special char in full-text search

2006-07-06 Thread Brent Baisley
MySQL doesn't index the special characters, some of which are considered word separators, like the period. MySQL indexes words, not 
strings (sort of).
I had a similar problem on one of my projects where I needed to index resumes for searching. Typical searches would include C++, C#, 
.NET, etc. None of which mysql would index.
What I did was created a word conversion list and added a search words field to the database. The search words field would contain 
the problematic search words into strings that MySQL would index (CPlusPlus, CSharp, dotNET, etc). The full text index would then be 
a compound index of the original text plus the search words field.
The front end would handle searching the text for conversion words before inserting/updating the database. It would then convert the 
problematic words that were present and populate the search words field with them. The front would also do a similar conversion when 
a user entered a search for one of those words.
It's not perfect, but I always used boolean full text searching and MySQL does support proximity searches, so it worked well enough. 
Although I never did figure out how to search on C, J, or any other single character programming language.


Hope that gives you some ideas.

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:06 AM
Subject: special char in full-text search



Hi All,

I am using the MySQL full text search capability in the search workflow in my appplication. I found that MySQL treats special 
character like *./,* etc. as tokenizers if they are not specified within a phrase(inside double quotes). For ex. If the search 
string entered is M.B.A or 24/7 then it searches for M, B, and A sepearately. I can't include the quotes for all search strings as 
wild char(*) search would not work when specified within a phrase. Is there a way to avoid MySQL from tokenizing the search 
criteria?

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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special char in full-text search

2006-07-05 Thread Harini Raghavan

Hi All,

I am using the MySQL full text search capability in the search workflow 
in my appplication. I found that MySQL treats special character like 
*./,* etc. as tokenizers if they are not specified within a 
phrase(inside double quotes). For ex. If the search string entered is 
M.B.A or 24/7 then it searches for M, B, and A sepearately. I can't 
include the quotes for all search strings as wild char(*) search would 
not work when specified within a phrase. Is there a way to avoid MySQL 
from tokenizing the search criteria?

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: Full Text Search across 2 tables.

2006-07-01 Thread Martin Jespersen

Maybe something like this:

select ft.topic, fm.message from forums_topics ft, forums_messages fm 
match (ft.topic, fm.message) against (...)


if topic is null then the hit is from fm and vice versa... haven't tried 
it, so  might not work :)


Steffan A. Cline wrote:

I have 2 tables which have full text index on each of their columns.

Table 1 - forums_topics field - topic
Table 2 - forums_messages   field - message
 
Is it possible to search them both in one query and determine which table

the result is being returned from in the search results?


Thanks

Steffan

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Full Text Search across 2 tables.

2006-07-01 Thread Steffan A. Cline
I have 2 tables which have full text index on each of their columns.

Table 1 - forums_topics field - topic
Table 2 - forums_messages   field - message
 
Is it possible to search them both in one query and determine which table
the result is being returned from in the search results?


Thanks

Steffan

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RE: Question on full text search scores, different content same score

2006-06-09 Thread Mark Steudel
Is there a way to escape the parenthesis?

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From: Gerald L. Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Mark Steudel
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Question on full text search scores, different content same
score

Mark Steudel wrote:
> I was doing a full text search and had a question on why two different
> entries got the same score:
> 
> Here is my select statement
> 
> SELECT 
> id, 
> pubyear, 
> MATCH ( title ) AGAINST ( 'Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines
to
> surveyors, and survey protocols (MLM)' ) AS score,
> title 
> FROM tblbook 
> WHERE MATCH ( title ) AGAINST ( 'Nursing home federal requirements,
> guidelines to surveyors, and survey protocols (MLM)' )
> 
> Here are the two results that come back:
> 
> title: Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to surveyors, and
> survey protocols
> score: 15.230528838754
> 
> title: Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to surveyors, and
> survey protocols (MLM)
> score: 15.230528838754
> 
> I'm sure its work as expected, but I was hoping some could enlighten me as
> to why these scores are the same. There are 35 entries in the database and
> these are the only two titles that are similar. I also tried IN BOOLEAN
MODE
> as well.
> 
> Thanks, Mark
> 
Perhaps because '(' and ')' are ignored, and 'MLM' is a three letter 
word, and not indexed.


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Re: Question on full text search scores, different content same score

2006-06-09 Thread Gerald L. Clark

Mark Steudel wrote:

I was doing a full text search and had a question on why two different
entries got the same score:

Here is my select statement

SELECT 
id, 
pubyear, 
MATCH ( title ) AGAINST ( 'Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to

surveyors, and survey protocols (MLM)' ) AS score,
title 
FROM tblbook 
WHERE MATCH ( title ) AGAINST ( 'Nursing home federal requirements,

guidelines to surveyors, and survey protocols (MLM)' )

Here are the two results that come back:

title: Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to surveyors, and
survey protocols
score: 15.230528838754

title: Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to surveyors, and
survey protocols (MLM)
score: 15.230528838754

I'm sure its work as expected, but I was hoping some could enlighten me as
to why these scores are the same. There are 35 entries in the database and
these are the only two titles that are similar. I also tried IN BOOLEAN MODE
as well.

Thanks, Mark

Perhaps because '(' and ')' are ignored, and 'MLM' is a three letter 
word, and not indexed.



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Question on full text search scores, different content same score

2006-06-08 Thread Mark Steudel
I was doing a full text search and had a question on why two different
entries got the same score:

Here is my select statement

SELECT 
id, 
pubyear, 
MATCH ( title ) AGAINST ( 'Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to
surveyors, and survey protocols (MLM)' ) AS score,
title 
FROM tblbook 
WHERE MATCH ( title ) AGAINST ( 'Nursing home federal requirements,
guidelines to surveyors, and survey protocols (MLM)' )

Here are the two results that come back:

title: Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to surveyors, and
survey protocols
score: 15.230528838754

title: Nursing home federal requirements, guidelines to surveyors, and
survey protocols (MLM)
score: 15.230528838754

I'm sure its work as expected, but I was hoping some could enlighten me as
to why these scores are the same. There are 35 entries in the database and
these are the only two titles that are similar. I also tried IN BOOLEAN MODE
as well.

Thanks, Mark

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Full text search novice

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Sansom

MySQL 5.0.19 running in Apache 2 on Mac OS X 10.4.6

I've been dipping my newbie toe into the murky waters of full text 
searching, but not with a great deal of success. I have a complex 
search set up which searches nine tables (potentially a whole bunch 
more, but for the present purpose...), five of which might contain 
quite long lumps of text in TEXT fields (biographies, for instance), 
the other four with shorter stuff in VARCHAR(127) fields. All these 
fields have full text indices set up.


Searching for the word 'olympic', if I use the full text search - 
match (...) against (...) - I find six people. If I use the tried and 
trusted like '%...%' method I find seven - the original six plus one 
more. The only difference between this extra one and the others is 
that she only has the word 'olympics' in her data, whereas all the 
others have 'olympic' somewhere.


I thought full text searching would cater for this kind of thing, but 
it appears not?


After I first tried it I read the thread about running myisamchk 
after upgrading across versions. I've just gone from 3.23.x to this 
version, so I thought maybe that was the answer, but having done all 
that I find there's no change.


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Re: full text search

2005-12-13 Thread Gleb Paharenko
Hello.



> Do I have to build an index first and how often is it updated etc?



Yes, you should create FULLTEXT indexes. However I'm not sure if you

will get any benefits for searching inner part of the words (*$key1*),

because you can search using asterisk only on the left-most prefixes of

the words. The performance of full-text searches some times is low,

however it was improved in 5.1. Pluggable full-text parsers have

appeared in this release as well. For a pity 5.1 is alpha quality now,

and in most cases you shouldn't use it in a production environment.







zzapper wrote:

> Hi,

> I've always done conventional searches Where ( title like '%$key1%') 
> or(isynopsis like '%$key2%')

> etc etc

> 

> But the client has increased the complexity of the search and especially the 
> size of his database

> and the search has really slowed. (particularly now that I have to search a 
> longtext field.)

> 

> So should I consider fulltext searching?

> 

> Do I have to build an index first and how often is it updated etc?

> 



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full text search

2005-12-13 Thread zzapper
Hi,
I've always done conventional searches Where ( title like '%$key1%') 
or(isynopsis like '%$key2%')
etc etc

But the client has increased the complexity of the search and especially the 
size of his database
and the search has really slowed. (particularly now that I have to search a 
longtext field.)

So should I consider fulltext searching?

Do I have to build an index first and how often is it updated etc?

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Re: Full text search

2005-10-04 Thread Gleb Paharenko
Hello.



> Show us the query that fails, fulltext works ok here.



LIKE doesn't use fulltext.



>>

> Show us the query that fails, fulltext works ok here.

> 

> SELECT id,txt,ch FROM fulltxt WHERE txt LIKE "%modem";

> id,txt,ch

> 0,DSL-modem,DSL-Modem

> 1,Cable-Modem,Cable-Modem

> 

> SELECT id,txt,ch FROM fulltxt WHERE txt LIKE "dsl%";

> id,txt,ch

> 0,DSL-modem,DSL-Modem

> 

> id is int, txt is text, ch is char.

> HTH



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Re: Full text search

2005-10-04 Thread JamesDR

Merlin wrote:

Hi there,

I am facing problems with fulltext search on MySQL 4.0.18

Problem is, that words which are not seperated by space are not found.
Example:
A search for "dsl" will not find "DSL-Modem"
I looked it up on mysql.com help, but despite the fact that this is not 
seperated by space and only 3 letter, I could not find a solution.


Can anybody point me to the right way? Thank you for any help,

Merlin


Show us the query that fails, fulltext works ok here.

SELECT id,txt,ch FROM fulltxt WHERE txt LIKE "%modem";
id,txt,ch
0,DSL-modem,DSL-Modem
1,Cable-Modem,Cable-Modem

SELECT id,txt,ch FROM fulltxt WHERE txt LIKE "dsl%";
id,txt,ch
0,DSL-modem,DSL-Modem

id is int, txt is text, ch is char.
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Re: Full text search

2005-10-04 Thread Jigal van Hemert

Merlin wrote:

Hi there,

I am facing problems with fulltext search on MySQL 4.0.18

Problem is, that words which are not seperated by space are not found.
Example:
A search for "dsl" will not find "DSL-Modem"
I looked it up on mysql.com help, but despite the fact that this is not 
seperated by space and only 3 letter, I could not find a solution.


Can anybody point me to the right way? Thank you for any help,


Minimum word length for full text index is four by default.

Information about changing default behaviour:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/fulltext-fine-tuning.html

Regards, Jigal.

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Full text search

2005-10-04 Thread Merlin

Hi there,

I am facing problems with fulltext search on MySQL 4.0.18

Problem is, that words which are not seperated by space are not found.
Example:
A search for "dsl" will not find "DSL-Modem"
I looked it up on mysql.com help, but despite the fact that this is not 
seperated by space and only 3 letter, I could not find a solution.


Can anybody point me to the right way? Thank you for any help,

Merlin

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FULL TEXT SEARCH: XML Encoded string field

2005-08-22 Thread pow

Hi everyone,

I have a freeform string field in one of my tables that is xml encoded.
Basically, i can create xml tags on the fly as and when i want, and just 
store the entire xml string in the field.


This eliminates the need to create a new column everytime i have a new 
"datatype". I can just encode with a new xml tag, and add it to the 
freeform string field.


The problem lies in full text searching.

Since everything is xml encoded, is there anyway to "fulltext" search 
this xmlencoded string field, but ignore all the xml tags 
(   etc)?



Many thanks!

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Re: Query on Full-text search

2005-08-19 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene

Rakki wrote:

Hi,
 
Can anybody give me the optimized query for full-text searching? 
 
User will be entering one or more words in a text box and I wanted to

display the records which has atleast one word of the user input.
 
Assume that my table has two fields USER and DESCRIPTION.
 
I wanted to search the DESCRIPTION field for the input entered in the

textbox. I use PHP. Please help me.


Place a full-text index on the fields in question, and then use 
something like:


SELECT * FROM table WHERE MATCH(user, description) AGAINST 
('$escaped_query') LIMIT 25


Where $escaped_query is the query that has been run through 
mysql_real_escape_string().


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Query on Full-text search

2005-08-19 Thread Rakki

Hi,
 
Can anybody give me the optimized query for full-text searching? 
 
User will be entering one or more words in a text box and I wanted to
display the records which has atleast one word of the user input.
 
Assume that my table has two fields USER and DESCRIPTION.
 
I wanted to search the DESCRIPTION field for the input entered in the
textbox. I use PHP. Please help me.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
Rakki


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Re: full-text search

2005-04-29 Thread Alec . Cawley
"Ron McKeever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 29/04/2005 14:09:38:

> I have a TEXT field in my db (4.0) that has lists of IP numbers; can a
> full-text search be done for IP numbers?

Unfortunately not, because Fulltext regards the dots as terminators. The 
IP address 192.168.32.2 will therefore be keyed as the four "words" 192, 
168, 32, and 2. Since some of these fall below the minimum word length, 
they will be ignored.

However, you might look at the functions INET_NTOA() and INET_ATON() which 
convert between the string and 32-bit binary representations of an IP 
address.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/miscellaneous-functions.html

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full-text search

2005-04-29 Thread jcht_mck
I have a TEXT field in my db (4.0) that has lists of IP numbers; can a
full-text search be done for IP numbers?

 

If so could you show me an example query? 

 

Thanks

Rob 



full-text search

2005-04-29 Thread Ron McKeever
I have a TEXT field in my db (4.0) that has lists of IP numbers; can a
full-text search be done for IP numbers?

 

If so could you show me an example query? 

 

Thanks

Rob 



Full-text search performance issues

2005-02-10 Thread Homam S.A.
Since MySQL stores RowIDs with the indexed words
instead of the table's primary key IDs, and since it
uses only one index per table in any query, performing
a full-text search on a large table (several million
rows) and joining it with another large table proves
to be extremely slow!

The bottleneck seems to be the disk, as MySQL
generates an insane number of disk reads while trying
to join the two tables without using common indexes
between the two.

Basically I have two tables, A and B. These tables
cannot be merged, so there's no way around using a
join. One of these tables, A, has a TEXT column that
is full-text indexed. Now these tables are normally
joined using the indexes on their primary keys. But if
use a full-text criteria in the WHERE clause against
A, then MySQL will NOT use the primary key index on A
to perform the join. It instead seems to get the
result from the full-text index and uses it to perform
a huge number of random (unsorted) lookups on the
second table to perform the join.

I tried to perform a separate query on each table and
store the results (primary key IDs) in a couple of
temp tables, then join these tables manually. But
these tables can be huge, and doing this for each web
paging request is very inefficient. In addition,
limiting the size of these temp tables would render
the search dysfunctional because it won't be
encompassing any more.

With non-full-text indexes, you can just merge the
indexes into a composite index to work around the
single-index-per-table limitation. But you can't merge
a regular primary key index and a full-text index into
a composite index, and I have no idea why MySQL
developers didn't just use the primary key IDs with
the indexed words, as in MS SQL Server full-text
index, instead of the physical row IDs. May be it's a
MyISAM limitation that an index, no matter what type
it is, has to use physical row IDs as table pointers
instead of primary keys.

Is there any way around this limitation? I'd like to
know if someone has been in a such a situation and how
he or she solved it.

I appreciate your help!




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Re: Full text search in mulitple-table query

2005-01-28 Thread cristopher pierson ewing
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Santino wrote:
At 15:50 -0800 27-01-2005, cristopher pierson ewing wrote:
Shawn,
Okay, it turns out that I can solve my problem by reordering the elements 
of the WHERE clause at the end of the query I sent before. I've gotten good 
results with the following version (it breaks all the fields in the 
Fulltext search into separate searches):

SELECT
  t1.course_id,
  t1.course_title,
  t1.course_subtitle,
  t1.course_brochure_path,
  t2.course_start_date,
  t2.course_end_date,
  t4.location_name1,
  t4.location_name2,
  t4.location_city,
  t4.location_state,
  t5.allow_online_registration,
  t6.course_keywords
FROM
  cme_course_info.tblCourses t1
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseDates t2
ON t1.course_id = t2.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseLocations t3
ON t1.course_id = t3.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblLocations t4
ON t3.location_record = t4.location_record
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseWebSwitches t5
ON t1.course_id = t5.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseExtraInfo t6
ON t1.course_id = t6.course_id
WHERE
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
Create a fulltext index on 3 columns and search :
MATCH (t6.course_keywords, t6.course_description, 
t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
So, does seearching on multiple columns only work if you create the 
fulltext index on all of them at the same time?  When I read the docs they 
seemed to imply that indeces created on multiple columns wouldn't be 
individually searchable.  In other words, if I create a fulltext index on 
col1, col2, and col3, then I will not be able to match against only col1. 
I created the three as separate indeces so that I could maintain the 
ability to search each separately at some point.  Am I wrong to do so?


OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
ORDER BY
  t2.course_start_date, t2.course_end_date, t1.course_title;
This pretty much ends my problem, except for one interesting aside that 
still has me confused.  If I just slightly alter the order of all the 
various sub-clauses in the WHERE portion of the query, I get some courses 
that violate the requirement "course_type_code='MJ'" (last part of WHERE)

Specifically, if I take the MATCH parts and move them up to right after the 
WHERE, like so:

WHERE
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
I think you must use ():
Yep, that fixed the problem, now I can put the ORed portion of the filter 
at the front, where it logically seems to belong and all works just fine. 
Thanks for the assist!

WHERE (
 MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
 MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
 MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
OR
 MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
)
AND
 t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
 t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
 t1.course_webready='1'
AND
 t3.primary_location='1'
AND
 t1.course_type_code='MJ'
Suddenly, I get courses showing up that violate all the later requirements, 
such as the ones on course_start_date, course_end_date, and so on to the 
end.

Is there a requirement as to which order sub-clauses of a WHERE clause have 
to follow?  I couldn't find anything that described this, but I'm perfectly 
willing to admit I have a hard time finding lots of things in the online 
docs.

Thanks for any lucidity anyone can lend,
Cris

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Re: Full text search in mulitple-table query

2005-01-28 Thread Santino
At 15:50 -0800 27-01-2005, cristopher pierson ewing wrote:
Shawn,
Okay, it turns out that I can solve my problem by reordering the 
elements of the WHERE clause at the end of the query I sent before. 
I've gotten good results with the following version (it breaks all 
the fields in the Fulltext search into separate searches):

SELECT
  t1.course_id,
  t1.course_title,
  t1.course_subtitle,
  t1.course_brochure_path,
  t2.course_start_date,
  t2.course_end_date,
  t4.location_name1,
  t4.location_name2,
  t4.location_city,
  t4.location_state,
  t5.allow_online_registration,
  t6.course_keywords
FROM
  cme_course_info.tblCourses t1
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseDates t2
ON t1.course_id = t2.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseLocations t3
ON t1.course_id = t3.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblLocations t4
ON t3.location_record = t4.location_record
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseWebSwitches t5
ON t1.course_id = t5.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseExtraInfo t6
ON t1.course_id = t6.course_id
WHERE
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
Create a fulltext index on 3 columns and search :
 MATCH (t6.course_keywords, t6.course_description, 
t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')

OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
ORDER BY
  t2.course_start_date, t2.course_end_date, t1.course_title;
This pretty much ends my problem, except for one interesting aside 
that still has me confused.  If I just slightly alter the order of 
all the various sub-clauses in the WHERE portion of the query, I get 
some courses that violate the requirement "course_type_code='MJ'" 
(last part of WHERE)

Specifically, if I take the MATCH parts and move them up to right 
after the WHERE, like so:

WHERE
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
I think you must use ():
WHERE (
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
)
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
Suddenly, I get courses showing up that violate all the later 
requirements, such as the ones on course_start_date, 
course_end_date, and so on to the end.

Is there a requirement as to which order sub-clauses of a WHERE 
clause have to follow?  I couldn't find anything that described 
this, but I'm perfectly willing to admit I have a hard time finding 
lots of things in the online docs.

Thanks for any lucidity anyone can lend,
Cris

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School of Medicine
Work Phone: (206) 685-9116
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cristopher pierson ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/27/2005
04:01:22 PM:
I'm running a query that pulls information from about six different
tables
in a DB.  I'd like to be able to do a fulltext search on fields in
several
different tables.  The end result should be that any row with a fulltext

match in any of the fields in any table gets returned.  I've tried a
syntax that looks like this:
WHERE MATCH (table1.field1,table2.field2 table2.field3)
AGAINST ('some,nifty,words')
but I get back an error message that says:
ERROR 1210: Wrong arguments to MATCH
If all the ffields are from one table, then I get an error that says:
ERROR 1191: Can't find FULLTEXT index matching the column list
Is it possible to do a fulltext search on multiple fields in a quesry
that
references more than one table?  What would be the correct syntax for
such
a query?  Am I limited to doing this via a UNION-type query?
Thanks for any information that you can give me, and sorry if it seems a

trivial question, I can't seem to find an answer in the documentation

Cris Ewing
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School of Medicine
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I don't think you can define a single full-text index that spans multiple
tables. That would require the capacity to FT index a view.  So I must
assume that you have 

Re: Full text search in mulitple-table query

2005-01-27 Thread cristopher pierson ewing
Shawn,
Okay, it turns out that I can solve my problem by reordering the elements 
of the WHERE clause at the end of the query I sent before.  I've gotten 
good results with the following version (it breaks all the fields in the 
Fulltext search into separate searches):

SELECT
  t1.course_id,
  t1.course_title,
  t1.course_subtitle,
  t1.course_brochure_path,
  t2.course_start_date,
  t2.course_end_date,
  t4.location_name1,
  t4.location_name2,
  t4.location_city,
  t4.location_state,
  t5.allow_online_registration,
  t6.course_keywords
FROM
  cme_course_info.tblCourses t1
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseDates t2
ON t1.course_id = t2.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseLocations t3
ON t1.course_id = t3.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblLocations t4
ON t3.location_record = t4.location_record
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseWebSwitches t5
ON t1.course_id = t5.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseExtraInfo t6
ON t1.course_id = t6.course_id
WHERE
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
ORDER BY
  t2.course_start_date, t2.course_end_date, t1.course_title;
This pretty much ends my problem, except for one interesting aside that 
still has me confused.  If I just slightly alter the order of all the 
various sub-clauses in the WHERE portion of the query, I get some courses 
that violate the requirement "course_type_code='MJ'" (last part of WHERE)

Specifically, if I take the MATCH parts and move them up to right after 
the WHERE, like so:

WHERE
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_description) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t6.course_intended_audience) AGAINST ('care')
OR
  MATCH (t1.course_title) AGAINST ('care')
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-02-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
Suddenly, I get courses showing up that violate all the later 
requirements, such as the ones on course_start_date, course_end_date, and 
so on to the end.

Is there a requirement as to which order sub-clauses of a WHERE clause 
have to follow?  I couldn't find anything that described this, but I'm 
perfectly willing to admit I have a hard time finding lots of things in 
the online docs.

Thanks for any lucidity anyone can lend,
Cris

Cris Ewing
CME and Telehealth Web Services
University of Washington
School of Medicine
Work Phone: (206) 685-9116
Home Phone: (206) 365-3413
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cristopher pierson ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/27/2005
04:01:22 PM:
I'm running a query that pulls information from about six different
tables
in a DB.  I'd like to be able to do a fulltext search on fields in
several
different tables.  The end result should be that any row with a fulltext

match in any of the fields in any table gets returned.  I've tried a
syntax that looks like this:
WHERE MATCH (table1.field1,table2.field2 table2.field3)
AGAINST ('some,nifty,words')
but I get back an error message that says:
ERROR 1210: Wrong arguments to MATCH
If all the ffields are from one table, then I get an error that says:
ERROR 1191: Can't find FULLTEXT index matching the column list
Is it possible to do a fulltext search on multiple fields in a quesry
that
references more than one table?  What would be the correct syntax for
such
a query?  Am I limited to doing this via a UNION-type query?
Thanks for any information that you can give me, and sorry if it seems a

trivial question, I can't seem to find an answer in the documentation

Cris Ewing
CME and Telehealth Web Services
University of Washington
School of Medicine
Work Phone: (206) 685-9116
Home Phone: (206) 365-3413
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't think you can define a single full-text index that spans multiple
tables. That would require the capacity to FT index a view.  So I must
assume that you have created a FT index on one or more columns on each of
table1 and table2. If not, that may be your problem (you need to create a
FT index before you can use it).
It may be possible to say
SELECT...
FROM  table1
INNER JOIN table2
   ON ...
WHERE MATCH (table1.field1) AGAINST (...)
   OR MATCH (table2.field2, table2.field3) AGAINST (...)
and get the results you want. I can't test it because I don't have any FT
indexes, yet.
Can you describe your FT index structure?  ("SHOW CREATE TABLE \G"
creates great output for this purpose. Just edit out the fields that
aren't important to this problem if you 

Re: Full text search in mulitple-table query

2005-01-27 Thread cristopher pierson ewing
Shawn,
Thanks for the reply.
Here's the output of "SHOW CREATE TABLE" for one of the tables in 
question:

CREATE TABLE `tblcourseextrainfo` (
  `course_id` varchar(6) NOT NULL default '',
  `course_description` text,
  `course_intended_audience` text,
  `course_keywords` text,
  PRIMARY KEY  (`course_id`),
  FULLTEXT KEY `keywords` (`course_keywords`),
  FULLTEXT KEY `course_description` (`course_description`),
  FULLTEXT KEY `course_intended_audience` (`course_intended_audience`)
) TYPE=MyISAM
As you can see, I've created individual fulltext indeces for three fields 
in this table, there is another table called 'tblCourses' where I have a 
field called 'course_title' that also has a fulltext index.  The query in 
question pulls information from these two tables and about 4 others.  The 
result is a list of courses with all the information our customers need to 
see.

here's a sample of what the sql from one query might look like:
SELECT
  t1.course_id,
  t1.course_title,
  t1.course_subtitle,
  t1.course_brochure_path,
  t2.course_start_date,
  t2.course_end_date,
  t4.location_name1,
  t4.location_name2,
  t4.location_city,
  t4.location_state,
  t5.allow_online_registration,
  t6.course_keywords,
  t6.course_description
FROM
  cme_course_info.tblCourses t1
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseDates t2
ON t1.course_id = t2.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseLocations t3
ON t1.course_id = t3.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblLocations t4
ON t3.location_record = t4.location_record
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseWebSwitches t5
ON t1.course_id = t5.course_id
  LEFT JOIN cme_course_info.tblCourseExtraInfo t6
ON t1.course_id = t6.course_id
WHERE
  t1.course_type_code='MJ'
AND
  t1.course_webready='1'
AND
  t3.primary_location='1'
AND
  t2.course_start_date>'2005-01-01'
AND
  t2.course_end_date<'2005-12-31'
AND
  MATCH (t6.course_keywords,t1.course_title)
  AGAINST ('kidney,rheumatic');
Can you see any problems here that I'm missing?
Thanks,
Cris

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cristopher pierson ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/27/2005
04:01:22 PM:
I'm running a query that pulls information from about six different
tables
in a DB.  I'd like to be able to do a fulltext search on fields in
several
different tables.  The end result should be that any row with a fulltext

match in any of the fields in any table gets returned.  I've tried a
syntax that looks like this:
WHERE MATCH (table1.field1,table2.field2 table2.field3)
AGAINST ('some,nifty,words')
but I get back an error message that says:
ERROR 1210: Wrong arguments to MATCH
If all the ffields are from one table, then I get an error that says:
ERROR 1191: Can't find FULLTEXT index matching the column list
Is it possible to do a fulltext search on multiple fields in a quesry
that
references more than one table?  What would be the correct syntax for
such
a query?  Am I limited to doing this via a UNION-type query?
Thanks for any information that you can give me, and sorry if it seems a

trivial question, I can't seem to find an answer in the documentation

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I don't think you can define a single full-text index that spans multiple
tables. That would require the capacity to FT index a view.  So I must
assume that you have created a FT index on one or more columns on each of
table1 and table2. If not, that may be your problem (you need to create a
FT index before you can use it).
It may be possible to say
SELECT...
FROM  table1
INNER JOIN table2
   ON ...
WHERE MATCH (table1.field1) AGAINST (...)
   OR MATCH (table2.field2, table2.field3) AGAINST (...)
and get the results you want. I can't test it because I don't have any FT
indexes, yet.
Can you describe your FT index structure?  ("SHOW CREATE TABLE \G"
creates great output for this purpose. Just edit out the fields that
aren't important to this problem if you are worried about size/secrets.)
That would go a long way to help us understand your problems.
Thanks!
Shawn Green
Database Administrator
Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine
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Re: Full text search in mulitple-table query

2005-01-27 Thread SGreen
cristopher pierson ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/27/2005 
04:01:22 PM:

> I'm running a query that pulls information from about six different 
tables 
> in a DB.  I'd like to be able to do a fulltext search on fields in 
several 
> different tables.  The end result should be that any row with a fulltext 

> match in any of the fields in any table gets returned.  I've tried a 
> syntax that looks like this:
> 
> WHERE MATCH (table1.field1,table2.field2 table2.field3)
> AGAINST ('some,nifty,words')
> 
> but I get back an error message that says:
> 
> ERROR 1210: Wrong arguments to MATCH
> 
> If all the ffields are from one table, then I get an error that says:
> 
> ERROR 1191: Can't find FULLTEXT index matching the column list
> 
> Is it possible to do a fulltext search on multiple fields in a quesry 
that 
> references more than one table?  What would be the correct syntax for 
such 
> a query?  Am I limited to doing this via a UNION-type query?
> 
> Thanks for any information that you can give me, and sorry if it seems a 

> trivial question, I can't seem to find an answer in the documentation
> 
> 
> Cris Ewing
> CME and Telehealth Web Services
> University of Washington
> School of Medicine
> Work Phone: (206) 685-9116
> Home Phone: (206) 365-3413
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 

I don't think you can define a single full-text index that spans multiple 
tables. That would require the capacity to FT index a view.  So I must 
assume that you have created a FT index on one or more columns on each of 
table1 and table2. If not, that may be your problem (you need to create a 
FT index before you can use it).

It may be possible to say 
SELECT...
FROM  table1
INNER JOIN table2
ON ...
WHERE MATCH (table1.field1) AGAINST (...) 
OR MATCH (table2.field2, table2.field3) AGAINST (...)

and get the results you want. I can't test it because I don't have any FT 
indexes, yet.

Can you describe your FT index structure?  ("SHOW CREATE TABLE \G" 
creates great output for this purpose. Just edit out the fields that 
aren't important to this problem if you are worried about size/secrets.) 
That would go a long way to help us understand your problems.

Thanks!

Shawn Green
Database Administrator
Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine


Full text search in mulitple-table query

2005-01-27 Thread cristopher pierson ewing
I'm running a query that pulls information from about six different tables 
in a DB.  I'd like to be able to do a fulltext search on fields in several 
different tables.  The end result should be that any row with a fulltext 
match in any of the fields in any table gets returned.  I've tried a 
syntax that looks like this:

WHERE MATCH (table1.field1,table2.field2 table2.field3)
AGAINST ('some,nifty,words')
but I get back an error message that says:
ERROR 1210: Wrong arguments to MATCH
If all the ffields are from one table, then I get an error that says:
ERROR 1191: Can't find FULLTEXT index matching the column list
Is it possible to do a fulltext search on multiple fields in a quesry that 
references more than one table?  What would be the correct syntax for such 
a query?  Am I limited to doing this via a UNION-type query?

Thanks for any information that you can give me, and sorry if it seems a 
trivial question, I can't seem to find an answer in the documentation


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Re: Copying DB and full-text search files from one server to another

2004-12-25 Thread Gleb Paharenko
Hello.



Like MyISAM data files, InnoDB data and log files are binary-compatible on 

all platforms if the floating-point number format on the machines is the same.

You can move your database by copying all the relevant files. If the 

floating-point formats on the machines are different but you have not used 

FLOAT or DOUBLE data types in your tables, then the procedure is the same: 

Just copy the relevant files. If the formats are different and your tables 

contain floating-point data, you have to use mysqldump to dump your tables 

on one machine and then import the dump files on the other machine.

Don't forget to put the same values for the ft_min_word_len and ft_max_word_len

variables on your another server (and I think you should at least restart

your server after moving InnoDB). For more information see:

  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Moving.html

  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/MyISAM_storage_engine.html





"Homam S.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is it possible to copy the database files (both MyISAM

> and InnoDB) that contain tables, indices, and

> full-text indices from one MySQL server to another

> running/active MySQL server and start using them right

> away?

> 

> I appreciate your help!

> 

> Homam

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Copying DB and full-text search files from one server to another

2004-12-22 Thread Homam S.A.
Is it possible to copy the database files (both MyISAM
and InnoDB) that contain tables, indices, and
full-text indices from one MySQL server to another
running/active MySQL server and start using them right
away?

I appreciate your help!

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Re: Full Text Search - Limits?

2004-12-16 Thread Thomas Spahni
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, EP wrote:

> Thomas Spahni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > the column type will limit the number of characters per row. A column
> > of type TEXT will hold up to 65,535 characters but with LONGTEXT you
> > can put up to 4,294,967,295 charcters into one row. I have an
> > application with Texts of up to 200 pages in one column. Full-Text
> > Search is handling this very well.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Really?!  If I can follow-up with another question, does experience
> suggest Full-Text Search handles a large number of such documents
> efficiently?  For example, I am expecting to have (up to) one million
> documents in my database.  I was considering breaking each document into
> paragraphs for search efficiency, but if Full-Text Search can search
> return results quickly on a large number of "long" (e.g. 10,000+
> character) documents, my database has just become much simpler.
>
> Eric

My average document is 16700 bytes long and I have 21'649 of them (number
growing).

I can give you an example how slow (fast) it is:

mysql> select count(*) from unpublished where match (bgetxt) against
('Garten Waldbaum Gutachten');
+--+
| count(*) |
+--+
| 2841 |
+--+
1 row in set (1.97 sec)

mysql> select count(*) from unpublished where match (bgetxt) against
('Willensvollstrecker');
+--+
| count(*) |
+--+
|   34 |
+--+
1 row in set (0.03 sec)

This is on modest hardware (single P4, 1GB Ram, SCSI drive). My index
still fits into RAM but was not buffered for the first query above. I
would definitely try to keep your texts in a single piece each.

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Re: Full Text Search - Limits?

2004-12-16 Thread Gleb Paharenko
Hello.



Some information you can find in comments at:

  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Fulltext_Search.html



"EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 

> 

> I've looked in the documentation but didn't see any indication of the limit=

> s of Full-Text Search in terms of how many characters/words it can process =

> per row.

> 

> For example, if I have a column with 4,000 character strings in it, can I u=

> se it effectively in Full-Text Searching?

> 

> What if the column holds gigabytes of text in each row?

> 

> My mind is probably stuck in an "indexing" paradigm, but I'd like to know w=

> here the limits (of Full Text search) are, if any.

> 

> 

> Can anyone advise?

> 

> [Thanks!]

> 

> 

> Eric Pederson

> 

> 



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Re: Full Text Search - Limits?

2004-12-15 Thread EP
Thomas Spahni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the column type will limit the number of characters per row. A column 
> of
> type TEXT will hold up to 65,535 characters but with LONGTEXT you can 
> put
> up to 4,294,967,295 charcters into one row. I have an application with
> Texts of up to 200 pages in one column. Full-Text Search is handling 
> this
> very well.


Thanks...

Really?!  If I can follow-up with another question, does experience suggest 
Full-Text Search handles a large number of such documents efficiently?  For 
example, I am expecting to have (up to) one million documents in my database.  
I was considering breaking each document into paragraphs for search efficiency, 
but if Full-Text Search can search return results quickly on a large number of 
"long" (e.g. 10,000+ character) documents, my database has just become much 
simpler.

Eric


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Re: Full Text Search - Limits?

2004-12-15 Thread Alec . Cawley
"EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/12/2004 15:44:15:

> Thomas Spahni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > the column type will limit the number of characters per row. A column 
> > of
> > type TEXT will hold up to 65,535 characters but with LONGTEXT you can 
> > put
> > up to 4,294,967,295 charcters into one row. I have an application with
> > Texts of up to 200 pages in one column. Full-Text Search is handling 
> > this
> > very well.
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Really?!  If I can follow-up with another question, does experience 
> suggest Full-Text Search handles a large number of such documents 
> efficiently?  For example, I am expecting to have (up to) one 
> million documents in my database.  I was considering breaking each 
> document into paragraphs for search efficiency, but if Full-Text 
> Search can search return results quickly on a large number of "long"
> (e.g. 10,000+ character) documents, my database has just become much 
simpler.

I see no reason why not. AIUI, Full Text search breaks the documents up 
into words and indexes each document by avery word in the document. 
Breaking into paragraphs gives you an approximate position within the 
document for a hit, and changes the behaviour for multiple keywords (they 
must both be in the same pararaph) but should have little effect on the 
efficiency of the index.

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Re: Full Text Search - Limits?

2004-12-15 Thread Thomas Spahni
Eric,

the column type will limit the number of characters per row. A column of
type TEXT will hold up to 65,535 characters but with LONGTEXT you can put
up to 4,294,967,295 charcters into one row. I have an application with
Texts of up to 200 pages in one column. Full-Text Search is handling this
very well.

Thomas Spahni


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, EP wrote:

> I've looked in the documentation but didn't see any indication of the
> limits of Full-Text Search in terms of how many characters/words it can
> process per row.
>
> For example, if I have a column with 4,000 character strings in it, can
> I use it effectively in Full-Text Searching?
>
> What if the column holds gigabytes of text in each row?
>
> My mind is probably stuck in an "indexing" paradigm, but I'd like to
> know where the limits (of Full Text search) are, if any.
>
> Can anyone advise?
> Eric Pederson


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Full Text Search - Limits?

2004-12-14 Thread EP


I've looked in the documentation but didn't see any indication of the limits of 
Full-Text Search in terms of how many characters/words it can process per row.

For example, if I have a column with 4,000 character strings in it, can I use 
it effectively in Full-Text Searching?

What if the column holds gigabytes of text in each row?

My mind is probably stuck in an "indexing" paradigm, but I'd like to know where 
the limits (of Full Text search) are, if any.


Can anyone advise?

[Thanks!]


Eric Pederson


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Re: Full-Text Search

2004-10-27 Thread Brent Baisley
1. The manual says there is and it gives an example, but I haven't been 
able to get it to work and neither have other people on this list.

If you look at the "planned" improvements of MySQL, a few of the major 
items have to do with full text searching.

On Oct 26, 2004, at 7:39 PM, Jalil Feghhi wrote:
Brent,
Thanks for the reply.
1. Is there any way to sort the boolean full-text search results in
orther of relevance as in non-bolean mode? I think it is very 
important.

2. Yes, that is what I meant. You are right. I look into grep.
Thanks,
-Jalil
-Original Message-
From: Brent Baisley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:30 AM
To: Jalil Feghhi
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Full-Text Search
1. The rows are "sorted" in the same order as any other query that
doesn't have and order by specified, which means usually in the order
they were entered.
2. When you mean "location of matches", do you mean something like
highlighting? That's the responsibility of the interface, not the
database. Remember, MySQL is really "just" a database engine. It will
find your data fast, but it's up to you to present it in a nice format.
But, highlighting is fairly easy using grep, which is available in just
about any front end you may be using (Perl, Shell, PHP, etc.).
On Oct 25, 2004, at 8:37 PM, Jalil Feghhi wrote:
In the MySQL documentation, it says that: Boolean full-text searches
have these characteristics:
*   They do not use the 50% threshold.
*   They do not automatically sort rows in order of decreasing
relevance. You can see this from the preceding query result: The row
with the highest relevance is the one that contains ``MySQL'' twice,
but it is listed last, not first.
*   They can work even without a FULLTEXT index, although this would
be slow.
*   The minimum and maximum word length full-text parameters apply.
*   The stopword list applies.
I had two questions:
1. How are the returned rows sorted in the boolean full-text searches?
2. Is there any way to get more information (other than the score)
from MySQL? For example, can we find out the location of matches?
Regards,
-Jalil
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RE: Full-Text Search

2004-10-26 Thread Jalil Feghhi
Brent,

Thanks for the reply. 

1. Is there any way to sort the boolean full-text search results in
orther of relevance as in non-bolean mode? I think it is very important.

2. Yes, that is what I meant. You are right. I look into grep.


Thanks, 

-Jalil 

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To: Jalil Feghhi
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Subject: Re: Full-Text Search


1. The rows are "sorted" in the same order as any other query that 
doesn't have and order by specified, which means usually in the order 
they were entered.

2. When you mean "location of matches", do you mean something like 
highlighting? That's the responsibility of the interface, not the 
database. Remember, MySQL is really "just" a database engine. It will 
find your data fast, but it's up to you to present it in a nice format. 
But, highlighting is fairly easy using grep, which is available in just 
about any front end you may be using (Perl, Shell, PHP, etc.).


On Oct 25, 2004, at 8:37 PM, Jalil Feghhi wrote:

> In the MySQL documentation, it says that: Boolean full-text searches 
> have these characteristics:
>
> * They do not use the 50% threshold.
>
> * They do not automatically sort rows in order of decreasing
> relevance. You can see this from the preceding query result: The row 
> with the highest relevance is the one that contains ``MySQL'' twice, 
> but it is listed last, not first.
>
> * They can work even without a FULLTEXT index, although this would
> be slow.
>
> * The minimum and maximum word length full-text parameters apply.
>
> * The stopword list applies.
>
> I had two questions:
>
> 1. How are the returned rows sorted in the boolean full-text searches?
>
> 2. Is there any way to get more information (other than the score) 
> from MySQL? For example, can we find out the location of matches?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Jalil
>
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Re: Full-Text Search

2004-10-26 Thread Brent Baisley
1. The rows are "sorted" in the same order as any other query that 
doesn't have and order by specified, which means usually in the order 
they were entered.

2. When you mean "location of matches", do you mean something like 
highlighting? That's the responsibility of the interface, not the 
database. Remember, MySQL is really "just" a database engine. It will 
find your data fast, but it's up to you to present it in a nice format. 
But, highlighting is fairly easy using grep, which is available in just 
about any front end you may be using (Perl, Shell, PHP, etc.).

On Oct 25, 2004, at 8:37 PM, Jalil Feghhi wrote:
In the MySQL documentation, it says that: Boolean full-text searches
have these characteristics:
*   They do not use the 50% threshold.
*	They do not automatically sort rows in order of decreasing
relevance. You can see this from the preceding query result: The row
with the highest relevance is the one that contains ``MySQL'' twice, 
but
it is listed last, not first.

*   They can work even without a FULLTEXT index, although this would
be slow.
*   The minimum and maximum word length full-text parameters apply.
*   The stopword list applies.
I had two questions:
1. How are the returned rows sorted in the boolean full-text searches?
2. Is there any way to get more information (other than the score) from
MySQL? For example, can we find out the location of matches?
Regards,
-Jalil
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Full-Text Search

2004-10-25 Thread Jalil Feghhi
In the MySQL documentation, it says that: Boolean full-text searches
have these characteristics: 

*   They do not use the 50% threshold. 

*   They do not automatically sort rows in order of decreasing
relevance. You can see this from the preceding query result: The row
with the highest relevance is the one that contains ``MySQL'' twice, but
it is listed last, not first. 

*   They can work even without a FULLTEXT index, although this would
be slow. 

*   The minimum and maximum word length full-text parameters apply. 

*   The stopword list applies. 

I had two questions:
 
1. How are the returned rows sorted in the boolean full-text searches?
 
2. Is there any way to get more information (other than the score) from
MySQL? For example, can we find out the location of matches? 
 
Regards,
 
-Jalil


Re: full text search question

2004-10-01 Thread Frederic Wenzel
GH schrieb:
Laura did this work... inquiring minds want to know :)

Laura:
Perhaps the "-" is acting like a Boolean operator. What if you put
double quotes around your search phrase:
SELECT * FROM metadata WHERE MATCH( type ) AGAINST ( '+"XY-11443"' IN
BOOLEAN MODE );
Or.. the - is possibly supposed to be escaped?
Let's take a look at the documentation ;)
Bye
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Re: full text search question

2004-10-01 Thread GH
Laura did this work... inquiring minds want to know :)


On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:36:40 -0400, Wesley Furgiuele
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Laura:
> 
> Perhaps the "-" is acting like a Boolean operator. What if you put
> double quotes around your search phrase:
> 
> SELECT * FROM metadata WHERE MATCH( type ) AGAINST ( '+"XY-11443"' IN
> BOOLEAN MODE );
> 
> Wes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:22:54 -0400, Laura Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a questions with limitations/restrictions that are around for
> > full text search.
> >
> > I have a field with data like "XY-11443;." and I need to find the
> > record.  The original developer was using full text search and says that
> > all was working before the task switched hands.
> >
> > The basic query is
> > select * from metadata where match(type) against ('+XY-11443' in boolean
> > mode);
> >
> > This query spins through all of my records and gives no results.
> > However, if I remove the "XY-" and just do ('+11443' in boolean mode) I
> > get an immediate and correct result.
> >
> > I believe there is something going on with the '-' in the string that is
> > causing trouble  - like maybe a stop word or something - but can't find
> > exactly what is going on and more importantly "HOW TO FIX IT"
> >
> > Any help would be awesome!
> >
> > Laura
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Re: full text search question

2004-09-29 Thread Wesley Furgiuele
Laura:

Perhaps the "-" is acting like a Boolean operator. What if you put
double quotes around your search phrase:

SELECT * FROM metadata WHERE MATCH( type ) AGAINST ( '+"XY-11443"' IN
BOOLEAN MODE );

Wes


On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:22:54 -0400, Laura Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a questions with limitations/restrictions that are around for
> full text search.
> 
> I have a field with data like "XY-11443;." and I need to find the
> record.  The original developer was using full text search and says that
> all was working before the task switched hands.
> 
> The basic query is
> select * from metadata where match(type) against ('+XY-11443' in boolean
> mode);
> 
> This query spins through all of my records and gives no results.
> However, if I remove the "XY-" and just do ('+11443' in boolean mode) I
> get an immediate and correct result.
> 
> I believe there is something going on with the '-' in the string that is
> causing trouble  - like maybe a stop word or something - but can't find
> exactly what is going on and more importantly "HOW TO FIX IT"
> 
> Any help would be awesome!
> 
> Laura
> 
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full text search question

2004-09-29 Thread Laura Scott


Hello,

I have a questions with limitations/restrictions that are around for
full text search.

I have a field with data like "XY-11443;." and I need to find the
record.  The original developer was using full text search and says that
all was working before the task switched hands.

The basic query is
select * from metadata where match(type) against ('+XY-11443' in boolean
mode);

This query spins through all of my records and gives no results.
However, if I remove the "XY-" and just do ('+11443' in boolean mode) I
get an immediate and correct result.

I believe there is something going on with the '-' in the string that is
causing trouble  - like maybe a stop word or something - but can't find
exactly what is going on and more importantly "HOW TO FIX IT"

Any help would be awesome!

Laura


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Full Text Search Score calculations.

2004-08-01 Thread Eric Berry
Hello everyone,
   
   I recently decided to perform an experiment. I was using Java to do
string comparison on sometimes large data sets (this would sometimes
take days). A friend of mine at work suggested that I use MySQL's full
text searching. I quickly made the change over and I've found that it is
great, extremely fast and I can see that the scoring is working
perfectly. Well, almost perfectly. My problem is that I find the scores
hard to read. When comparing these two strings "5600 10th Ave" and "5600
10th Ave" I get a score of 5.40898323059082. When I compare these two
strings "Greenacres Grand Slam" and "Greenacres Grand Slam", I get a
score of 9.09278202056885, which I assume to be a perfect match.
However, these scores are hard to program for. I need the scores to be
in a percentage form (0-100, 0-1.0, etc...). 

  I read through the documentation and I found "Zero relevance means no
similarity. Relevance is computed based on the number of words in the
row, the number of unique words in that row, the total number of words
in the collection, and the number of documents (rows) that contain a
particular word." I figure I can use this to take the returned score and
calculate a percentage, but I don't know how. 

  Does anyone know of a simple way to do this? Is there a function
provided for full text searching that I am missing? If not, does anyone
know of a formula I can use to get the percentage of the matches?

  Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Sincerely,

Eric Berry



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RE: Full text search problem

2004-06-21 Thread Paul McNeil
Good morning.  Not knowing too much about PHP it looks like you are
searching for
`name`,`colour`,`gender`,`breed`,`location`,`description`
Where there is a whitespace in the name.

Could you use,

$query_results = sprintf("SELECT * FROM dogslost WHERE
`name` LIKE '% %'", $crit_results);


God Bless

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Developer in Java, MS-SQL, MySQL, and web technologies.















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-Original Message-
From: Terry Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 5:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Full text search problem


Pieter,

I think FTS minimum WORD size is 4 characters - you may to be searching
with 3 on 'May May'.

Not having ever used FTS; I believe you can adjust it to count 3-character
words by changing the configuration, but I'm not sure where - and it would
then need re-indexing, if I'm not mistaken.

Hope that helps

Terry

--Original Message-

> Hi
>
> I have a fulltext search on a dbase for lost pets.
> My problem is the following:
>
> I have dog in the database called "May May" which doesnt show up in the
> search results. A dog called "Doggy Doggy" does show up however. I
> guess the problem is that MySql sees "May May" as being a date or
> something and doesnt do a text compare.
>
> Here is my query, from php.
> $query_results = sprintf("SELECT * FROM dogslost WHERE  MATCH
> (`name`,`colour`,`gender`,`breed`,`location`,`description`) AGAINST
> ('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE)", $crit_results);
>
> any ideas?
>
> Regards
> Pieter
>


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Re: Full text search problem

2004-06-21 Thread Matt W
Hi Pieter,

That's because "may" is a stopword in MySQL's full-text indexing, by
default (like "can," "the," etc).  You can define your own stopword file
with the ft_stopword_file variable.  And you can find the default, built-in
list of stopwords in the file myisam/ft_static.c of the source
distribution.

Hope that helps.

(Oh, also what Terry said in his reply!)


Matt


- Original Message -
From: "Pieter Botha"
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:54 AM
Subject: Full text search problem


> Hi
>
> I have a fulltext search on a dbase for lost pets.
> My problem is the following:
>
> I have dog in the database called "May May" which doesnt show up in the
> search results. A dog called "Doggy Doggy" does show up however. I guess
> the problem is that MySql sees "May May" as being a date or something
> and doesnt do a text compare.
>
> Here is my query, from php.
> $query_results = sprintf("SELECT * FROM dogslost WHERE  MATCH
> (`name`,`colour`,`gender`,`breed`,`location`,`description`) AGAINST
> ('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE)", $crit_results);
>
> any ideas?
>
> Regards
> Pieter


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Re: Full text search problem

2004-06-21 Thread Terry Riley
Pieter,

I think FTS minimum WORD size is 4 characters - you may to be searching 
with 3 on 'May May'.

Not having ever used FTS; I believe you can adjust it to count 3-character 
words by changing the configuration, but I'm not sure where - and it would 
then need re-indexing, if I'm not mistaken.

Hope that helps

Terry

--Original Message-  

> Hi
> 
> I have a fulltext search on a dbase for lost pets.
> My problem is the following:
> 
> I have dog in the database called "May May" which doesnt show up in the 
> search results. A dog called "Doggy Doggy" does show up however. I 
> guess the problem is that MySql sees "May May" as being a date or 
> something and doesnt do a text compare.
> 
> Here is my query, from php.
> $query_results = sprintf("SELECT * FROM dogslost WHERE  MATCH 
> (`name`,`colour`,`gender`,`breed`,`location`,`description`) AGAINST 
> ('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE)", $crit_results);
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> Regards
> Pieter
> 


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Full text search problem

2004-06-21 Thread Pieter Botha
Hi
I have a fulltext search on a dbase for lost pets.
My problem is the following:
I have dog in the database called "May May" which doesnt show up in the 
search results. A dog called "Doggy Doggy" does show up however. I guess 
the problem is that MySql sees "May May" as being a date or something 
and doesnt do a text compare.

Here is my query, from php.
$query_results = sprintf("SELECT * FROM dogslost WHERE  MATCH 
(`name`,`colour`,`gender`,`breed`,`location`,`description`) AGAINST 
('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE)", $crit_results);

any ideas?
Regards
Pieter
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Re: Full-Text Search on MERGE Tables

2004-02-27 Thread Egor Egorov
"Lorderon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to define MERGE table on several tables with full-text
> indexes?

Yes, but without specification of FULLTEXT index in the MERGE table.

> And to make a select on the MERGE table with MATCH AGAINST?
> 

You can permorm boolean full-text search that can work without FULLTEXT index.



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Full-Text Search on MERGE Tables

2004-02-26 Thread Lorderon
Hello All,

Is it possible to define MERGE table on several tables with full-text
indexes?
And to make a select on the MERGE table with MATCH AGAINST?


thanks,
-Lorderon.



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