Re: [newbie] SB Live
At 04:32 05.11.99 +, you wrote: Well, I'm stumped. d/l the tarball and here is what the readme says and a list of the files the tarball created. (my appologies that I've had to attach it as a attachment - I couldn't get the cut and paste to work but that's another thread) I tried the command "make emu10k1" but that bombed out with some error msg - sorry, didn't write it down. Try with just "Make". That worked for me. Terje
[newbie] Installing Software
Well I have my small network up and running. I have gotten a copy of Partition Magic and have installed Linux and Win 98 on a couple of the systems. Haveing trouble with one. It has a scsi cdrom in it. Can't boot to it. Plus Linux doesn't reconize the 1505 card. Also I want to install star office on the network. How do I install packages on the network? Thanks Jeff
[newbie] Installing Software
"Jeff" == jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff Well I have my small network up and running. I have gotten a Jeff copy of Partition Magic and have installed Linux and Win 98 Jeff on a couple of the systems. Haveing trouble with one. It has Jeff a scsi cdrom in it. Can't boot to it. Plus Linux doesn't Jeff reconize the 1505 card. [snip] I believe that the 1505 (is that the Adaptec 1505?) does not allow boot devices off of that card. Have you tried modprobe aha152x ? You may have to supply the options (io, irq, device number). My conf.modules has lines for the 1505: alias scsi_hostadapter aha152x options aha152x aha152x=0x340,11,7,0 Your mileage may vary. I'm unsure what the final 0 in the second line is for. -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: XEmacs 21.1, VM 6.75 and random-sig.el Kernel 2.2.13-22mdk http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Nov 5 Feria
Re: [newbie] Installing Software
jeff wrote: Well I have my small network up and running. I have gotten a copy of Partition Magic and have installed Linux and Win 98 on a couple of the systems. Haveing trouble with one. It has a scsi cdrom in it. Can't boot to it. Plus Linux doesn't reconize the 1505 card. Also I want to install star office on the network. How do I install packages on the network? Thanks Jeff For Star Office, I believe its /setup /net After the install, log on as a user and go to the Office directory and type /setup This will install 2megs worth of files in the user directory
[newbie] Video Settings
Hello all - I'm happy to have a working Mandrake system on the first try - except I can't get the video to 800x600. I'm stuck at 640x480 8bits - making the KDE too small to work with... sometimes i can't see the ok buttons! When I set this up (using Linux - 4 - windows) and tried using 800x600 8bits (i didn't try 16bits, giving me 65536 colors) and it said problem with X windows and brought me back to the video setup where I put in 640x480, and it worked. ***Now that I have the KDE installed at 640x480, how do i change this to 800x600 16 bits??? I couldn't find anything in the menus on the K start menu. ...and is X Windows referred to in the setup the same as the KDE that is actually used? thanks for your help!
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [[newbie] Keep modem connection alive]
Just a little warning here, while you may be OK, most ISPs giving unlimited access, do not define that as you have the right to a 24/7 connection. Most User Policies say that as long as you are using the connection you can stay on as long as you want, but if idle, you must hangup. If you get caught using a program to maintain a line without actually doing anything, most ISPs will either drop your account, or warn you that doing so again will cost you your account. To have an extended connection like this, most ISPs will require you to purchase a dedicated line or modem. Its the economics of it. A local dialup ISP makes money because many people use the same lines. If they actually provided a dedicated line for each user, they would go out of business. Check with your own phone company and find out what a T-1 to your house would cost you each month. A bit more than the $29 or under you pay each month for dialin. grin Ron Michael Scottaline wrote: "Morrell, Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I keep my modem connection to my ISP alive when the computer is idle? == Keep KBiff running, set to check for POP3 mail every 120 seconds. That should keep the connection alive indefinitely. I do it all the time. Mike ++ Michael Scottaline -- Ron Marriage E-Mailmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sevatio Octavio wrote: Many thanks for the laughs... Jeeez, I'm still laughing each time I look at the picture! Unfortunately half the time, the 3finger salute doesn't even help. With Windows I always rely on my precious Reset button. Hey, make sure the 'expert' list gets a copy of this! Seve I joined the list just recently. What is this picture that everyone is talkingabout? Thanks, Jas
[newbie] Video Settings
Hello all - I'm happy to have a working Mandrake system on the first try - except I can't get the video to 800x600. I'm stuck at 640x480 8bits - making the KDE too small to work with... sometimes i can't see the ok buttons! When I set this up (using Linux - 4 - windows) and tried using 800x600 8bits (i didn't try 16bits, giving me 65536 colors) and it said problem with X windows and brought me back to the video setup where I put in 640x480, and it worked. ***Now that I have the KDE installed at 640x480, how do i change this to 800x600 16 bits??? I couldn't find anything in the menus on the K start menu. ...and is X Windows referred to in the setup the same as the KDE that is actually used? thanks for your help
Re: [newbie] ram not seen
If your motherboard support ATA66, then all is well. The kernel shipped with MDK 6.1 includes support for the Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card (needed if your motherboard doesn't natively support ATA66). If you don't use the Promise card and your MB doesn't support ATA66, then your drive will run at ATA33. Matt From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ram not seen Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:53:35 -0600 Dude! What driver do you use to make the udma66 work? This is cool On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: I appended the ram amount in lilo.conf to reflect 256megs and it boots normal now. Incidentely Mandrake sees the Athlon processor and all the hardware including udma 66 hardrive. This thing is working perfectly and is so fast. Now if I can just figure out why tkdesk keeps telling me to put the environment path etc etc. Thanks for the help gentlemenPaul From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ram not seen Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:24:11 -0500 On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, you wrote: I believe it's a Athlon/'not quite ready for prime time' motherboard issue. I have no first hand experience with it, but I've seen a lot of this type complaint about Athlon mobo's on several hardware NG's. Sort'a funny that the Cu-mine/8xx chipset mobo's have a similar deal. Ahh...I suppose it couldn't also have anything to do with the fact that the Athlon is a totally new architecture and Linux isn't QUITE sure how to talk to everything in the new architecture? ;-) John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Normal=boring x 100 __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
[newbie] text viewer
Anyone know of a good text viewer (other than "less") for large textfiles? I'd prefer one that will let you "bookmark" where you were (for things like, say the Gutenberg project, etc) and resume later. Thanks... John
Re: [newbie] Video Settings
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hello all - I'm happy to have a working Mandrake system on the first try - except I can't get the video to 800x600. I'm stuck at 640x480 8bits - making the KDE too small to work with... sometimes i can't see the "ok" buttons! When I set this up (using Linux - 4 - windows) and tried using 800x600 8bits (i didn't try 16bits, giving me 65536 colors) and it said "problem with X windows" and brought me back to the video setup where I put in 640x480, and it worked. ***Now that I have the KDE installed at 640x480, how do i change this to 800x600 16 bits??? I couldn't find anything in the menus on the K "start" menu. ...and is X Windows referred to in the setup the same as the KDE that is aactually used? thanks for your help! Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: You don't give us enough information what hardware do you have in your system? Which Mandrake version are you running? Which Video card (specifically -- brand, model, chipset, memory, etc) do you have and which X server did you select at install? John
RE: [newbie] NMB Problem anew...
Title: RE: [newbie] NMB Problem anew... As someone who went through this just last night (thanks Axalon!) I think I can help. There are three steps from where I think you are to you having a (more or less) working system: 1. If you edit the smb.conf directly, you will see several master settings. You probably don't want Linux to be the Master unless you *really* know what you're doing. (Regardless of the warm and fuzzy feeling it might give you.) 2. Also in smb.conf you need to find the remote announce property and add the subnets you want to see your box. (Typically, this will be your IP address and then change the last number to 255 -- that's a *really* gross oversimplification, but it should get you up and running.) 3. So long as the HOSTNAME and DOMAIN in netconf seem to be correct you can probably get rid of the DNS server from hosts and just put it's IP in resolv.conf where it goes (DHCPcd should do this for you automatically). That should get you up and running. Creating accounts and stuff is another matter. *I'm* still working on that. ;-) ~Mike -Original Message- From: Sean Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:43 AM To: Newbie List for Mandrake Subject: [newbie] NMB Problem anew... Ok. Since I last posted this problem I have found that I can correct the NMB [FAILS] at boot up time by changing the Hostname in netconf to localhost.localdomain and adding the dns server name and IP address to the hosts and lmhosts files. I can talk to the network this way, but I can not see my computer on the network when I use someone elses NT box. If I change the hostname to the correct name for my computer in netconf, then NMB fails again and I can not talk to the network properly and can still not see my computer on the network. I do not have a static IP address for my computer and use DHCP to connect to the DNS server. I wish to keep using DHCP, because I would prefer to not tie up another of the company's IP addresses. Does anyone have any idea why SAMBA has such problems with DHCP? Thanx, SA
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I joined the list just recently. What is this picture that everyone is talkingabout? Keyboard with just three keys -- Control, Alternate and Delete. :-) John
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Gee Microsoft fixes a problem so we can BUY NEW OS from them Big deal! Get real will you! They should give it to all of us who spent money on there software! On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Ok...I'm a little slow getting to my mail but hehehehehehehehehehehehe ROFL I love it! :-) On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="windows keyboard.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description:
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
-Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - SNIP So I would caution you to have experience withwhat you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. -- I've been running NT at home for 5 years - and programming M$ stuff even longer does that qualify me as a professional? A reboot is NOT a necessarily a crash, when M$ claims they reduced the number of reboots they mean they reduced the number of times you have to reboot in order for any changes you may have made to the system setup to take effect. I crash my NT box(s - I have 3) a lot, almost on a daily basis and personally cannot wait to rid myself of this virus called windows that I am forced to PAY for every time Bill pulls a "new improved" OS out of his ear. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Video Settings
Hi, What type of machine are you on? If you go into your etc directory you'll find the X11 directory which contains a file called XF86Config. You can manually change your settings in that file. Or you can run the Xconfigurator again. Under the Section "Screen" area you should see your settings. Add "800x600" next to "640x480". Do you know how to switch resolutions with a keyboard command on your machine? Kelly
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Especially when we didn't even want to spend money on their software. I have a copy of Windows NT because I chose to purchase it... However, I also have useless copies of Windows 95 and 98 because they came with my computer. Next time I'm defninitely building my own. On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Hugh wrote: Gee Microsoft fixes a problem so we can BUY NEW OS from them Big deal! Get real will you! They should give it to all of us who spent money on there software! On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
[newbie] Can't logout of enlightenment
that right, y press the icon of the foot in the panel, and the menu pops, but when i select logout, nothing happens. what do i need to do?? thanks
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
You don't have many friends, do you? Bryan Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/05/99 11:59:45 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sam I agree with him. What are you doing in this group if you are in love with microcrap? - Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
"Jaswinder S. Ahluwalia" wrote: Sevatio Octavio wrote: Many thanks for the laughs... Jeeez, I'm still laughing each time I look at the picture! Unfortunately half the time, the 3finger salute doesn't even help. With Windows I always rely on my precious Reset button. Hey, make sure the 'expert' list gets a copy of this! Seve I joined the list just recently. What is this picture that everyone is talkingabout? Thanks, Jas [Image] -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] returned E-mail problems
Has anyone else been getting a message back from the newsgroup mail server stating their reply's were undeliverable (not new msg's just reply's) only to have them show up on the mail list anyway - very strange. Curiouser and curiouser says Alice. here is the msg sent back to me, I think this is what it's telling me. The original message was received at Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - invalid e-mail - Transcript of session follows - 550 invalid... User unknown 550 e-mail... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; carus.private.mspring.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:22:07 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:22:07 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (from root@localhost) by carus.private.mspring.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13873; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by carus-z.mspring.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25882for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15429 for newbie-list; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:06:06 -0600 Received: from mail.kirbyint.com (www.kirbyworld.com [209.186.113.2]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA30032 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:17:50 -0600 Received: from kirbywhq.com ([150.3.200.21])by mail.kirbyint.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA32563for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:33:52 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:23:47 -0500 From: "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) References: 007f01bf275f$acc91960$0200a8c0@c3p0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] SB Live
I do not test any midi file in linux, but I think it doesn´t work fine. Sysadmin wrote: Does the midi in SBLive work also? On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: I have SBlive workink thanks to this 2 helps: --- To load the driver, type: modprobe soundcore insmod -f emu10k1 You will get a warning about the module being compiled for a 2.2.10 kernel, and your being a 2.2.9, you can safely ignore this Now, test sound with the mediaplayer and a wav file. Should work. For the module to load at every startup, include the insmod -f command in your rc.local file. --- --- Okay - do the following (exactly everything Creative recommend you _DONT_ do, so i take no responsibilty for this ;-) it works fine for me tho!) DO IT ALL AS ROOT (su -) Untar/zip the file from creative. 'cp emu10k1.o-2.2.5-15 /lib/modules/2.2.9-19mdk/misc/emu10k1.o' Remove any existing sound lines from conf.modules Add the following... 'alias sound emu10k1' 'options emu10k1 -f' 'pre-install emu10k1 insmod soundcore' 'post-remove emu10k1 rmmod soundcore' Save the file reboot. Instead of rebooting you could come out of X and then do... 'rmmod soundcore' 'rmmod sblive' (or whatever your old module was called) 'insmod -f emu10k1' --- John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: OK so I found the creative site with the open source drivers and downloaded and unzipped them. I must have taken my stupid pills today because I cannot seem to follow their instructions especially the part regarding copying the emu10k1.o driver to a particular directory. Am I blind or is there no driver to copy, all I see are a bunch of what appears to be C files. I'm getting fairly good at this finally but this has got me stumped again anyone figure this out?? Drop me a line [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try compiling the driver using the C files there. :-) There should be some instructions there on compiling. John -- Normal=boring x 100
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Oh no, not more microslop advocates On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -- Normal=boring x 100
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. I'm a W98 user along with Mdk 6.0. I happen to agree with Sam's remarks. Last week I expoused on how most people blame the OS first, instead of last, and that is their biggest impediment to solving their computer problems. I got the feeling that my opinion wasn't well received. shrug I'll say it again tho, you'll be best served lookin for what the USER is doing wrong as your first step. I ran W2.x, W3.x, several beta versions of W95, and of W98. I'll still say, even considering W95 (specially the beta's), the most common computer problems are a symptom of the interface between the keyboard, mouse, and chair, ie., user caused. Next comes poorly written, buggy applications, next comes hardware, then the OS might be misconfigured (including bios), or be the source of the problem. The only item there that maybe sometimes should be considered first, is hardware. If you have a 'ready made' (Dell, Gateway, etc.) and you made _any changes_ to the way it was shipped to you (including OS upgrades/changes). These computers are put together using spec'd, limited, and sometimes substandard components, particularly the motherboard and bios. O/c'd hardware should often rise to the top of the list also. But aren't both items above 'user caused' ? I have another opinion, LU's are doin harm to the cause, when they try to boost Linux by putting down Windows. Wouldn't it be better to claim that while Windows is a very good OS, you believe Linux is better? . Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Hey we all have a right to be here ! But lets try to keep a sense of Humor :) We have people who never even loaded Linux ( To bad for them ) :) I think most of us are here because we have past experince with Unix or like me hate the Blue screens we got everyday when we ran Windozes. Had Micro$oft fixed our problems maybe we would have stayed :) But they chose to charge us every time they fix there system and release a new OS version. I for one will never go back. Also I run NT at work everyday and can say that I think they could have had a great system But there too loyal to the dollar and not to there customers So Linux is my choice And I hope others follow Besides I just love Penguins LOL Hugh On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sam I agree with him. What are you doing in this group if you are in love with microcrap? - Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
Re: [Re: [[newbie] Keep modem connection alive]]
Ron Marriage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a little warning here, while you may be OK, most ISPs giving unlimited access, do not define that as you have the right to a 24/7 connection. Most User Policies say that as long as you are using the connection you can stay on as long as you want, but if idle, you must hangup. If you get caught using a program to maintain a line without actually doing anything, most ISPs will either drop your account, or warn you that doing so again will cost you your account. To have an extended connection like this, most ISPs will require you to purchase a dedicated line or modem. Its the economics of it. A local dialup ISP makes money because many people use the same lines. If they actually provided a dedicated line for each user, they would go out of business. Check with your own phone company and find out what a T-1 to your house would cost you each month. A bit more than the $29 or under you pay each month for dialin. grin Ron = Good Point, Ron. I NEVER stay connected 24/7. It's rare I'm on for more than 2- 2 1/2 hours at any given time. I have a small local ISP. They're great, Never a busy signal and I never get disconnected. I was just making the point that if I have to be away from the keyboard for 5 or ten minutes, and I don't want to lose the connection Biff (or any mail check program) keeps the line alive. Actually, I'm not sure my ISP would cut me off anyway. As I mentioned, I've never been cut off by them. But I didn't mean to imply that anyone should use such a device to remain onlie indefinitely 24/7. Mike ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] kpackage can't find files
Hi, In Kpackage, for example if I tell it to find a package containing a certain file, I get the following error: "kprocess error: Cann't start dpkg" and then I get: "Kprocess error: Cann't start kiss" Any ideas? Thanks, Karen
[newbie] Java -- TWO JRE's?
Dear friends: A simple question: if one application needs one version of JRE and another a different version of JRE, is is possible to run TWO JRE's simultaneously on Linux? Thank you so much. -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[newbie] Java -- TWO JRE's?
Dear friends: A simple question: if one application needs one version of JRE and another a different version of JRE, is is possible to run TWO JRE's simultaneously on Linux? Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] returned E-mail problems
Yes, I just did. Looks like someone on the list got his/her mail account cancelled or something like that... On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: Has anyone else been getting a message back from the newsgroup mail server stating their reply's were undeliverable (not new msg's just reply's) only to have them show up on the mail list anyway - very strange. Curiouser and curiouser says Alice. here is the msg sent back to me, I think this is what it's telling me. The original message was received at Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - invalid e-mail - Transcript of session follows - 550 invalid... User unknown 550 e-mail... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; carus.private.mspring.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:22:07 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:22:07 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (from root@localhost) by carus.private.mspring.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13873; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by carus-z.mspring.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25882for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15429 for newbie-list; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:06:06 -0600 Received: from mail.kirbyint.com (www.kirbyworld.com [209.186.113.2]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA30032 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:17:50 -0600 Received: from kirbywhq.com ([150.3.200.21])by mail.kirbyint.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA32563for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:33:52 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:23:47 -0500 From: "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) References: 007f01bf275f$acc91960$0200a8c0@c3p0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] David van Balen mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Box 5054[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clinton, MS 39058 http://www.mc.edu/~vanbalen
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Well, I have no crashes EVER with either NT 4.0 SP 5 or Windows 2000. Guess you write lousy code or something. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Joseph S. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - SNIP So I would caution you to have experience withwhat you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. -- I've been running NT at home for 5 years - and programming M$ stuff even longer does that qualify me as a professional? A reboot is NOT a necessarily a crash, when M$ claims they reduced the number of reboots they mean they reduced the number of times you have to reboot in order for any changes you may have made to the system setup to take effect. I crash my NT box(s - I have 3) a lot, almost on a daily basis and personally cannot wait to rid myself of this virus called windows that I am forced to PAY for every time Bill pulls a "new improved" OS out of his ear. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] virtual consoles can't start x-server
Hi, What do I need to do to open another virtual console, and get it to run for ex. KDE? I log in with password, and type KDE and get a bunch of messages about it not being able to log into the x-server. Thanks, Karen
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
I Dual boot Mdk a patched to the gills Norton Utilities equipped W98. 98 can be made fairly stable with a little effort. I haven't had a BSOD for at least a week ;-) - plenty of browser crashes though (ISP advice: "have you rebooted? windows just does that sometimes...). I get browser crashes with MDK/Netscape too, but usually Xkill sorts it out (ctrl+alt+ back once or twice). Mandrake 6.1 cost me about US$ 7.50 (inc postage) What will W2k/NTx offer me that M6.1 doesn't? How much does it cost? -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience.
Re: [newbie] remove
remove = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Why are you so black and white? Can't there be room for both? I am in this group because I am also in love and a USER of Mandrake Linux. I'm just not so black and white that there is only one solution. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Lyndon Lininger Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Sam I agree with him. What are you doing in this group if you are in love with microcrap? - Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
[newbie] Kernel update
I just downloaded the RPM (kernel-2.2.13-22mdk.i586.rpm) update kernel for Mandrake. When I try to install it with either "-ivh" or "-Uvh" it says: kernel 2.2.0 conflicts with nscd-2.1.1-16mdk kernel 2.2 conflicts with raidtools-0.90-5mdk I'm just curios what this is about. If the RPM won't let me install, I'll just have to compile a kernel from the new sources. Richard
Re: [newbie] Java -- TWO JRE's?
On 5 Nov, Benjamin Sher wrote: A simple question: if one application needs one version of JRE and another a different version of JRE, is is possible to run TWO JRE's simultaneously on Linux? Absolutely. One thing you'll have to watch out for is the name of the interpreter. For instance, I've got Kaffe and Blackdown installed, and I have to rename Kaffe's java, javac, java-doc, etc. to kjava, kjavac, etc... This way, you know which JRE you're running. -- -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing Software
jeff wrote: Well I have my small network up and running. I have gotten a copy of Partition Magic and have installed Linux and Win 98 on a couple of the systems. Haveing trouble with one. It has a scsi cdrom in it. Can't boot to it. Plus Linux doesn't reconize the 1505 card. Also I want to install star office on the network. How do I install packages on the network? Thanks Jeff Jeffconcerning your 1505 card. According to a set of instructions I uncovered a while back (never got a chance to try the instructions out) you need to choose manual install mode and choose the 152x entry. Then supply setup with the irq and port settings that the card is set to. The 1505 is not a bootable card, so you'll still have to boot with a floppy. Anyway the author claimed this approach worked. Hope it works for you. Alan
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
IPCHAINS MASQ Yeah baby, I was able to get all the PC's on the net setting up the firewall (gateway) using ipchains..I have a question, rebuilding the Kernel, I used make menuconfig and recieved all sorts of errors, how do I get this to work? make config takes to long going through the list one at a time, also I followed all the instructions in the kernel how-to and nuthing seemed to work.I have to say some of these howtos arent really all that helpful, instead more confusing. lemme know, thanks! Rob From: Ronald A. Yacketta Have you turned on ip forwarding? "Rlongo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/02/99 06:16:22 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sam, why are you defending M$ with so much heart? All issues aside regarding which platform is 'better' and look at the big picture. Do you want your kids' education dictated my M$? How about giving them more than one choice by the time they're old enough? This is partly why I've taken on Linux. M$ has devoured everything in its way (on the old battle field). Remember this rule: You Can't Compete With Your Supplier. Plus, is it not American to support the underdog? Seve -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [newbie] returned E-mail problems
"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Has anyone else been getting a message back from the newsgroup mail server stating their reply's were undeliverable (not new msg's just reply's) only to have them show up on the mail list anyway - very strange. Curiouser and curiouser says Alice. here is the msg sent back to me, I think this is what it's telling me. The original message was received at Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - invalid e-mail - Transcript of session follows - 550 invalid... User unknown 550 e-mail... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; carus.private.mspring.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:22:07 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:22:07 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (from root@localhost) by carus.private.mspring.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13873; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by carus-z.mspring.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25882for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15429 for newbie-list; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:06:06 -0600 Received: from mail.kirbyint.com (www.kirbyworld.com [209.186.113.2]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA30032 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:17:50 -0600 Received: from kirbywhq.com ([150.3.200.21])by mail.kirbyint.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA32563for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:33:52 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:23:47 -0500 From: "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) References: 007f01bf275f$acc91960$0200a8c0@c3p0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did earlier today, but I think it stopped. SA
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
By the way, I can crash Mandrake Linux regularly in KDE. So don't think that Linux can't crash. And Netscape is the worst piece of crap under Linux ever invented! You people rant and rave about Microsoft's instability while putting up with Netscape crashing dozens of times A DAY! I've seen many Linux people acknowledge this and accept it. You are applying a double standard. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Warren Doney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I Dual boot Mdk a patched to the gills Norton Utilities equipped W98. 98 can be made fairly stable with a little effort. I haven't had a BSOD for at least a week ;-) - plenty of browser crashes though (ISP advice: "have you rebooted? windows just does that sometimes...). I get browser crashes with MDK/Netscape too, but usually Xkill sorts it out (ctrl+alt+ back once or twice). Mandrake 6.1 cost me about US$ 7.50 (inc postage) What will W2k/NTx offer me that M6.1 doesn't? How much does it cost? -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience.
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
I am not concerned with there being a problem setting up my ISP for the mere fact that i have worked in my ISP's sales dept. This was over 5 years ago when they only had 20 customers =) now they have over 2000. I found out I cant get a cable modem in the new area I have just moved to, =( so i am working out a deal on a T1 with em..got a bandwith price of 400 and a circuit prive of 250 for a full T. Later Let us not forget your ISP will get slightly upset for your using their backbone connection to run your own service. This clearly violates any contract I've ever seen. To the best of my understanding you need a static IP address and your ISP most likely has given you a dynamic one. Even when you get a cable service you'll be violating all sorts of contract agreements by trying to run a service off the back of the cable service. Think twice and get some legal advice before proceeding. Good Luck Joseph S. Gardner I conquer. Most Cable agreements even if they forbid you to run Servers explicity forbid resellin of services.
Re: Can't logout of gnome (was [newbie] Can't logout of enlightenment)
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, GAYTAN BAHAMONDEZ DANIEL EDUARDO wrote: that right, y press the icon of the foot in the panel, and the menu pops, but when i select logout, nothing happens. what do i need to do?? thanks You mean to say can't logout of gnome.. rpm -q gnome-core # what version? rpm -q mandrake-release # what version? Ok you click the foot, you click logout, the confirm box pops up (save session selected or no?), then you confirm and it does what exactly? Does gnome close and leave enlightenment, does it just go back to the desktop? Are you in runlevel 3 or 5, if three whats the last few messages on the tty you startx on, if 6 what says "tail ~/.Xsession-errors" ? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Ok, now this is just flamebait. I agree that NT and _possibly_ 2000 (don't know since I haven't and won't use it) are fairly stable OSs. I, for one, rarely experience crashes under NT 4.0. However, 95/98, for whatever reason, crashed all the time when I used them. A friend almost lost several weeks of java development because W98 crashed and never came back up. The big reason I use Linux as my main OS (I still run NT under vmware) is that it's free and _most_ of the software for it is free. It also, like most other Unices, has a fairly simple implementation and it is possible to bypass the annoying GUI wrappers and do things by simply making a change to a text file. Many people won't appreciate this, especially if they've been using Win for a long time and aren't particularly interested in the way the operating system works. I have no problem with that but, please, lets keep this discussion logical and amicable... if you think somebody's code is lousey, please give some proof to back your claim up. On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Sam Gentile wrote: Well, I have no crashes EVER with either NT 4.0 SP 5 or Windows 2000. Guess you write lousy code or something. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Joseph S. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - SNIP So I would caution you to have experience withwhat you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. -- I've been running NT at home for 5 years - and programming M$ stuff even longer does that qualify me as a professional? A reboot is NOT a necessarily a crash, when M$ claims they reduced the number of reboots they mean they reduced the number of times you have to reboot in order for any changes you may have made to the system setup to take effect. I crash my NT box(s - I have 3) a lot, almost on a daily basis and personally cannot wait to rid myself of this virus called windows that I am forced to PAY for every time Bill pulls a "new improved" OS out of his ear. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sam Gentile wrote: I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Stability claims on vaporware are hardly something to base a business decision on. That's what got us into this NT mess to begin with. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
I'm only defending against the stupid lies here and in the Linux community. If you made an argument that Linux is better because that's OK. If you start spreading lies like NT crashes left and right, I know it not to be true. We are running a billion dollar business on it. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Sam, why are you defending M$ with so much heart? All issues aside regarding which platform is 'better' and look at the big picture. Do you want your kids' education dictated my M$? How about giving them more than one choice by the time they're old enough? This is partly why I've taken on Linux. M$ has devoured everything in its way (on the old battle field). Remember this rule: You Can't Compete With Your Supplier. Plus, is it not American to support the underdog? Seve -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Agreed. My perception of Linux is that it is "almost" there but needs another year before I can recommend it to non-hacker friends. Most of the machines we have tried have had installation problems. Once they are up they are nice and stable, more so than NT. Also I am trying to do performance tuning of applications on Linux and the tools are just begining to emerge and appropriate patches for the kernel are being developed. One area I could use help is does someone have a better interface to the info help files than info. I find the hotkey interface to be a pain and a better search interface would be nice. Bill Hey we all have a right to be here ! But lets try to keep a sense of Humor :) We have people who never even loaded Linux ( To bad for them ) :) I think most of us are here because we have past experince with Unix or like me hate the Blue screens we got everyday when we ran Windozes. Had Micro$oft fixed our problems maybe we would have stayed :) But they chose to charge us every time they fix there system and release a new OS version. I for one will never go back. Also I run NT at work everyday and can say that I think they could have had a great system But there too loyal to the dollar and not to there customers So Linux is my choice And I hope others follow Besides I just love Penguins LOL Hugh On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sam I agree with him. What are you doing in this group if you are in love with microcrap? - Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
- Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. You must admit that this is probably not the best place to push MS and its agenda. However, from my perspective, MS and its products just do not perform the way they could/should. And, before you say I know nothing about MS... I have been a beta tester for MS products since Win 95 was called Chicago. I have been to MS offices in Dallas and Seattle.. I have instructor certification from MS. Not just MCSE or MCP, but Instructor certification. I have run most every MS product in existance since 1990. I am a Unix engineer by trade also.. My employer was using NT 4 and IIS as the company web server for all of our web-based products up until very recently.. We switched to Solaris and Netscape Enterprise Server.. The reason for the change? The IIS servers would crash on a regular basis and, when they were up the 3 systems they were running on (Dual P-II 450 Compaq servers) couldnt keep up with the workload. Since switching to NES just over a month ago, we have reached 10,000,000 (Yes, Ten Million) hits per day. with two dual cpu Sun servers. NES has had exactly two problems in the last month and both of those were caused by router failures. You can't blame this on "poorly written software" because we were using Microsoft's own web server. We have MCSE certified engineers on site to handle the configuration of the servers and even MS themselves looked at our configuration and could find no problems with it. The problem is that NT and yes, Win 2k still needs time to mature. It is not ready to be an enterprise level OS. It might be OK for file and print serving, but forget mission-critical applications where a companys future depends on solid, robust, stable performance. I too have run Win2k since the early betas have come out. While I am impressed with the improvements they have made, it still has a way to go before it will be on a level with Solaris or Linux. And, do I run MS operating systems at home? Yes.. I like to watch movies and play games.. Those are 2 things that Linux does not do well at this point.. In time, that will change. And, if you're not completely convinced by my statements, then I ask you why Microsoft themselves could not get their Hotmail service to run on NT and IIS reliably? When they purchased Hotmail, it was running on Solaris and Apache. They tried to cut over, but again IIS and NT could not handle the workload and would not stay up. So, to this day Hotmail still runs on Solaris and Apache. Now, I'm not going to blindly say that Unix/Linux/Solaris never crashes.. They do crash some times.. But their reliability far exceeds that of NT/95/98/Win2k. I'm not "making statements out of my behind either". I have the experience.. I've been there.. I've got the t-shirt. Darin - Sr. Systems Engineer LEXIS-NEXIS My opinions are my own.. Not my emplyers.. So there..
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Its just a joke calm down, Notice I am posting this using Windows 2000 RC2? Jeanette - Original Message - From: "Sam Gentile" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Sam Gentile" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:59 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Re: [newbie] NMB Problem anew...
Mike Abney wrote: As someone who went through this just last night (thanks Axalon!) I think I can help. There are three steps from where I think you are to you having a (more or less) working system: 1. If you edit the smb.conf directly, you will see several "master" settings. You probably don't want Linux to be the Master unless you *really* know what you're doing. (Regardless of the warm and fuzzy feeling it might give you.) 2. Also in smb.conf you need to find the "remote announce" property and add the subnets you want to see your box. (Typically, this will be your IP address and then change the last number to 255 -- that's a *really* gross oversimplification, but it should get you up and running.) 3. So long as the HOSTNAME and DOMAIN in netconf seem to be correct you can probably get rid of the DNS server from hosts and just put it's IP in resolv.conf where it goes (DHCPcd should do this for you automatically). That should get you up and running. Creating accounts and stuff is another matter. *I'm* still working on that. ;-) ~Mike -Original Message- From: Sean Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:43 AM To: Newbie List for Mandrake Subject: [newbie] NMB Problem anew... Ok. Since I last posted this problem I have found that I can correct the NMB [FAILS] at boot up time by changing the Hostname in netconf to localhost.localdomain and adding the dns server name and IP address to the hosts and lmhosts files. I can talk to the network this way, but I can not see my computer on the network when I use someone elses NT box. If I change the hostname to the correct name for my computer in netconf, then NMB fails again and I can not talk to the network properly and can still not see my computer on the network. I do not have a static IP address for my computer and use DHCP to connect to the DNS server. I wish to keep using DHCP, because I would prefer to not tie up another of the company's IP addresses. Does anyone have any idea why SAMBA has such problems with DHCP? Thanx, SA Dhcp already puts the nameserver IP in resolv.conf . If I take my computer name out of the hosts or lmhosts file, NMB [FAILS] at boot up. I added the subnet to the "remote announce" , but I still can't see my computer on someone else's NT box. In case I didn't mention this before, My computer is one of two linux boxes on an NT network here at work. The other box works fine, but it has a static IP address. My smb.conf file is configured the same as that computers, but I use dhcp to grab an IP from the DNS server. I'm not very fluent in networks, and what little bit I do know I picked up as I've struggled with this problem. My hosts file looks like this; 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain "my nameserver's IP address""computer name" "computername+domain name" My lmhosts file looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost "my nameserver's IP address""my computer's name" Anymore ideas would be much appreciated. Thanx, SA
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
mshirley wrote: No, not everybody with a different viewpoint is a 'plant'. But, when you come on a LINUX maillist and defend Microsoft Windows as being so good, it doesn't crash, you are asking for trouble. Have I used NT? YES. I ran it at home for a while, but experienced constant slowdowns and crashes. Our IT department has chosen NT for it's systems, and we have crashes every 3-4 weeks or so. I have built many computers for friends and relatives, using W95/98 including all the latest patches/updates as detailed on Wahlbeems' site. I have to run 95 at home because the wife doesn't get Linux yet. Maybe someday. I have seen CONTINUAL lockups/crashes/memory leaks, and it drives me crazy that I have to pay 90-100 bux every time Bill launches a new 'patch'. I use quality components in my computers, don't overclock, and still have numerous 'crashes' on my systems, friends systems, systems at work that I don't even touch other than to help explain to the other users around here that it's just a fact of life with Windows. Have I used W2K yet? NO! I won't either! I'm done paying Billy boy for crap. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:37 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Flame ON -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sam, I was going to stay out of this because I feel any operating system that does the work you want it to do is the one for you. I'm don't carry any bias for one or the other. However, you have lowered yourself to the level of exchanging personal insults rather than meaningful dialogue. Let me be the first to congratulate you on receiving my killfile candidate of the week award. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Gentile Sent: November 5, 1999 1:29 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Well, I have no crashes EVER with either NT 4.0 SP 5 or Windows 2000. Guess you write lousy code or something. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Joseph S. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - SNIP So I would caution you to have experience withwhat you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. -- I've been running NT at home for 5 years - and programming M$ stuff even longer does that qualify me as a professional? A reboot is NOT a necessarily a crash, when M$ claims they reduced the number of reboots they mean they reduced the number of times you have to reboot in order for any changes you may have made to the system setup to take effect. I crash my NT box(s - I have 3) a lot, almost on a daily basis and personally cannot wait to rid myself of this virus called windows that I am forced to PAY for every time Bill pulls a "new improved" OS out of his ear. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] returned E-mail problems
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Has anyone else been getting a message back from the newsgroup mail server stating their reply's were undeliverable (not new msg's just reply's) only to have them show up on the mail list anyway - very strange. Curiouser and curiouser says Alice. here is the msg sent back to me, I think this is what it's telling me. Yep. I'm getting 'em too. I put "private.mindspring.net" in my filters. Now, any mail I get from ANY of those servers is going straight into my trash. :-) John
Quoting 101 (was Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP)
Please note the below correspondence for a good "bad example" of quoting. This person quoted the ENTIRE message to just say "yeah ok." PLEASE folks, let's try to quote ONLY the most relevant stuff and trim the rest back... Thanks John Aldrich (Former BBS Sysop who remembers when each word used to mean an extra 2 cents in long distance charges G) On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: yeah ok Just make sure your Cable Agreements allows such a thing. On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Rlongo wrote: John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Pada Jumat, 05 Nov 1999, John Aldrich mengatakan: Keyboard with just three keys -- Control, Alternate and Delete. :-) John so what those all about? (i never use MS Windows) we do have the same combo buttons for linux, right? $ less /etc/inittab --- # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now --- i really want to enjoy that pic too.. so please somebody enlightenment me -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Choose Pentium? OR 586?
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hi, In menuconfig, (I have a feeling this is a dumb question) I automatically have 386 with an "X" next to it. I have a Pentium 233 mHz. Is that technically a 586? I'm not sure whether to tell it that or Pentium. My Linux book says to check 586 but I'm not sure why. Yes! A Pentium is a 586-class processor. I think Technically a Pentium is a 586, a Pentium Pro is a 686, a PII would be a 786, and a PIII would be an 886 (hmm.scaryalmost the same code # as the "first PC" processors! G) John
Re: [newbie] Kernel update
Richard, I hope you won't see this as a silly question but what's the website address from where you downloaded the Mandrake RPM kernel? Richard On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I just downloaded the RPM (kernel-2.2.13-22mdk.i586.rpm) update kernel for Mandrake. When I try to install it with either "-ivh" or "-Uvh" it says: kernel 2.2.0 conflicts with nscd-2.1.1-16mdk kernel 2.2 conflicts with raidtools-0.90-5mdk I'm just curios what this is about. If the RPM won't let me install, I'll just have to compile a kernel from the new sources. Richard
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Pada Jumat, 05 Nov 1999, John Aldrich mengatakan: Keyboard with just three keys -- Control, Alternate and Delete. :-) John so what those all about? (i never use MS Windows) we do have the same combo buttons for linux, right? $ less /etc/inittab --- # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now --- i really want to enjoy that pic too.. so please somebody enlightenment me Well, the joke (is it really funny if you have to explain it? G) is that those three keys are about the most useful keys you'll find under "desktop" versions of Windows (less needed under Windows NT or possibly Win2K.) John
[newbie] Arbitrarily recognizes CD ROM drive
Hi, Most of the time Linux can't mount my cdrom drive, but it recognized it just 10 minutes ago for the first time. Why does it recognize it and sometimes it won't? Sometimes when it boots up, it sees it: hdc: Atapi 20x CD ROM drive 20k cache (or something like that--it goes by too fast for me to remember) hard linked hdc to /dev/cdrom Other times it doesn't recognize it at all--no reference is made to hdc during bootup, and I can't mount it after booting. I get the following error if I try to mount it: Could not mount Error log: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I am not booting up differently in either case. Any ideas? Thanks. Karen
[newbie] Boot up arbitrarily recognizes CDROM drive
Hi, My Linux bootup seems to only recognize my CDROM drive when it feels like it, apparently. I noticed this morning for the first time I could mount it and view files on it. Now I've booted up several more times and hdc is not recognized. The CDROM is there in my linuxconf just the same. Here's what it says during bootup when it is recognized: hdc: Atapi 20x CD ROM drive 20k cache (or something like that--it goes by too fast for me to remember) hard linked hdc to /dev/cdrom --and ONCE when it said this, I was able to mount it. And if I don't get that during bootup, then I get this when I try to mount it: Could not mountError log: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) By the way, it is a 24x CD-ROM drive, not a 20x. I don't know where to start for what other information to give you, so just ask what else will help you diagnose the problem. I'm clueless! Thanks, Karen
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
IMHO... Sorry I have to agree somewhat with Sam...after all, before Linux had a usable GUI...the only other choice of a workable OS WAS what ever flavor of Microshaft Windows was current. The Win 3.X and Win 9.X have been the staple of mainstream PC user's for many years... BUT Win NT flavours have really ONLY been for Office/Network environs. Yes NT/2000 may be more stable than Win 9X but, also very $$ to keep current. As for me...I have played around with just about every version of Windows...from 2.X to 9.x, and a few NT versions, ALSO OS2/Warp, and now Linux. For all the bellyaching about M$ being a "virus", Bloatware, or whatever else you may call it...alot of you _STILL_ use Win9X on a dual boot...best bang for the buckhands down Linux, support/help available...Linux again. Anyway enuff ranting from me...just my 2 cents worth:) Jaguar "Lyndon Lininger Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam I agree with him. What are you doing in this group if you are in love with microcrap? - Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
(i never use MS Windows) That kinda kills the joke man!;)
Re: [newbie] Linux support for AMD K7
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: Does anyone know if the AMD processor, K7, is supported by any distro of Linux? Richard ive heard it doesnt behave that well but linux 2.4 should have complete support -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] virtual consoles can't start x-server
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: the command is "startx" (no quotes) if your runnning in runlevel 5 (X auto starts) or have one X session already open you'll need to tell it to start a second (or third) you do this by adding "-- :#" to the startx commandline. It looks like so startx -- :1 # start a second X remeber we start counding with 0 startx -- :2 # And maybe a third What about switching between X sessions? Alt+F7 normally takes you back to X... the original one. How do you get back to the second one after leaving it? DvB -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] SB Live emu10k1
I tried the commands modprobe soundcore insmod -f emu10k1 it gave some error message that said something to the effect of "emu10k1 file not found" what do i do ? thanks, Jas
Re: [newbie] Choose Pentium? OR 586?
A Pentium is a 586. It is the successor to the 486. On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: Hi, In menuconfig, (I have a feeling this is a dumb question) I automatically have 386 with an "X" next to it. I have a Pentium 233 mHz. Is that technically a 586? I'm not sure whether to tell it that or Pentium. My Linux book says to check 586 but I'm not sure why. Thanks, Karen
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm only defending against the stupid lies here and in the Linux community. If you made an argument that Linux is better because that's OK. If you start spreading lies like NT crashes left and right, I know it not to be true. Key phrase there being "I know it not to be true". Another person's truth might be totally different, so to call the statement "NT crashes left and right" a lie might be stepping on someone else's truth. In the case of Windows, it's really a double edged sword. For some people it works wonderfully, for some it works not quite as well. Neither one is a lie, they are just things that different people "know it to be true." I mean, if we want to slam MS more we could tap a keg at the fact that a judge just ruled Microsoft a monopoly. But on the other hand, we could rejoice at the fact that the judge also said that one of the reasons for his ruling of monopoly is that "there is no viable alternative (to Windows on the desktop)"', probably including linux. Again the double edged sword, because this is certainly a statement that many of us linux users "know it NOT to be true" to paraphrase. Personally, i have to go with whoever stated that there is room for both. I use both and im not going to say one is that much better from a pure user standpoint. Yes on the technical level i would have a different opinion, but thats not the point. Some things i just like better under DOS/Win and some under linux. It's a big world, some use one some use the other. It's all good right?? So now back to linux if anyone's read this far. Is there any good DTP software? Something on the order of Publisher? Also, getting back to games (of course!) i saw this post on linuxgames with a list of commercial games available or coming soon. For anyone interested they are: Soldier of Fortune - Soon Heroes of Might and Magic - Soon Hopkins FBI - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Quake 1 - Now - Requires Mesa 2.4 Quake 2 - Now - Requires Mesa 3.0 Quake 3 - November - Requires Mesa 3.1 or XFree 4.0 Unreal Tournament - November - Requires Glide 2.53 BFRIS - Now - Requires Mesa Descent 3 - Unsupported - Soon - Requires Mesa 3.0 Kingpin - Unsupported - Now - Requires Mesa 3.0 Ultima Online - Unsupported - Requires XFree 3.3 Civilization CTP - Now - Require XFree 3.3 Myth 2 - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 (Mesa 3.0 support soon) Railroad Tycoon - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Heretic 2 - December - Requires Mesa 3.1 Heavy Gear 2 - January - Requires Mesa 3.1 Eric's Ultimate Solitaire - October - Requires XFree 3.3 Abuse - Free - Now Descent 1 - Now Doom/Doom 2 - Free - Now Heretic 1 - Free - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Hexen 1 - Free - Now Battlecruiser 3020AD/Millenium - 2000 Neverwinter Nights - 2000 Terminus - 2000 -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Jaguar wrote: IMHO... Sorry I have to agree somewhat with Sam...after all, before Linux had a usable GUI...the only other choice of a workable OS WAS what ever flavor of Microshaft Windows was current. The Win 3.X and Win 9.X have been the staple You realize that the Linux GUI has been around since before WinNT was even a glimmer in Dave Cutler's eye, right? The X Window System is not something that was created for Linux, it predates it by quite a few years. Beyond that, it's amazing to see that people have been so thoroughly brainwashed by the Microsoft marketing train. Do you really believe that computing didn't exist prior to Microsoft Windows? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Second HD partition
I have a second Hard Drive in my machine which I use for backup. I created a second partition on it for linux backup using FIPS. How do I (1) get my system to recognize it and (2) reformat it for linux? My system previoulsy recognized the HD as hdd1 and still does, but it does not recognize the new partition (hdd2??). M L Cates
Re: [newbie] virtual consoles can't start x-server
David van Balen wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: the command is "startx" (no quotes) if your runnning in runlevel 5 (X auto starts) or have one X session already open you'll need to tell it to start a second (or third) you do this by adding "-- :#" to the startx commandline. It looks like so startx -- :1 # start a second X remeber we start counding with 0 startx -- :2 # And maybe a third What about switching between X sessions? Alt+F7 normally takes you back to X... the original one. How do you get back to the second one after leaving it? DvB Davidalt+f8 thru alt+f12 for xsessions 1 thru 5. Alan
Re: [newbie] IDE's for Linux?
Are there any professional C++ IDEs for linux? I heard a rumor that Borland was releasing one for Linux... is there anyone else doing such and do they all support the GNU complier or do they sport their own compliers? Code Crusader. .
Re: [newbie] returned E-mail problems
John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Has anyone else been getting a message back from the newsgroup mail server stating their reply's were undeliverable (not new msg's just reply's) only to have them show up on the mail list anyway - very strange. Curiouser and curiouser says Alice. here is the msg sent back to me, I think this is what it's telling me. Yep. I'm getting 'em too. I put "private.mindspring.net" in my filters. Now, any mail I get from ANY of those servers is going straight into my trash. :-) John GuysMe too! Today was the first time. One for each reply. Alan
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
I agree, there's only two really big reasons why I use NT/98 [I use LINUX MDK 6.0 for rest]. Games - I'm sorry, I know Loki is good but there's still a lot of games that don't work under LINUX. Work - @Work, mandatory NT 4.0 machines -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Warren Doney Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I Dual boot Mdk a patched to the gills Norton Utilities equipped W98. 98 can be made fairly stable with a little effort. I haven't had a BSOD for at least a week ;-) - plenty of browser crashes though (ISP advice: "have you rebooted? windows just does that sometimes...). I get browser crashes with MDK/Netscape too, but usually Xkill sorts it out (ctrl+alt+ back once or twice). Mandrake 6.1 cost me about US$ 7.50 (inc postage) What will W2k/NTx offer me that M6.1 doesn't? How much does it cost? -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience.
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sam Gentile wrote: Why are you so black and white? Can't there be room for both? I am in this group because I am also in love and a USER of Mandrake Linux. I'm just not so black and white that there is only one solution. Yea, Linux and BeOS. == [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) running Linux Mandrake 6.1 and/or BeOS.
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[newbie] Partitions for Linux correct order
I have set up my hardrive in the following order Is the correct? 10 gig harddrive C: primary dos partition for W98 5 gigabytes extended 5 gigabytes D: extended dos partition 1 gigabyte logical partition linux swap 4 gigabyte logigal partion for ext2 linux native 133 megabyts is the labeling correct? and the order they are in? thank you , Paul __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel update
I downloaded it from one of mirros listed on Madrake's update site. I think it was ftp.sunsite.utk.edu. On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: Richard, I hope you won't see this as a silly question but what's the website address from where you downloaded the Mandrake RPM kernel? Richard On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I just downloaded the RPM (kernel-2.2.13-22mdk.i586.rpm) update kernel for Mandrake. When I try to install it with either "-ivh" or "-Uvh" it says: kernel 2.2.0 conflicts with nscd-2.1.1-16mdk kernel 2.2 conflicts with raidtools-0.90-5mdk I'm just curios what this is about. If the RPM won't let me install, I'll just have to compile a kernel from the new sources. Richard
[newbie] ABC Nightline and M$' Chief Operating Officer... tssssss!!!
Can you believe the hot-air that M$ was trying to pass on NightLine last night? M$' Chief Operating Officer's (Bob Herbold) argument against the DOJ's case claimed that at a few years back there were only 26000 software companies and now there are 57000. I have a feeling these numbers aren't as friendly as they look. I guess when you lie... lie Big! Seve
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Not necessarily to Sam, Sam, it was important that you shared your perspective on this whole thing. I remember the day when I was in the Metro Theatre in Seattle and Bill Gates and wife sat in the same row a few seats from me. I trembled with excitement to be in such close proximity to this person of such great accomplishment importance. This was about five years ago. I doubt that he still frequents that theatre. And since then, I've grown to dislike what M$ has done to the landscape. What used to be a forest is now a prairie with one giant tree. It is a dangerous situation for all of us. Besides, I hated having to stay on hold with M$ Support and then to hear them tell me that I need to contact the Mfg of my PC. Of course, the Mfg referred me back to M$. I still grind my teeth thinking about it. And here I am... getting more help than I can dream of from fellow users. Plus, M$ seems to be more interested in the minute details of your profile than they are helping you. Here's the latest crap experience with M$: I had a problem with Netmeeting V3.0 in that it could not connect to another Netmtg VIA encryption. I was shuffled about and finally ended up at the mercy of a 'high' level tech. We spent no less than 7 hours on the phone over a period of several weeks to find that there is no solution. I was surprised to find that he/they couldn't just walk up to the responsible department and bring it to their attention (my naiveté). He didn't know where, how, what... That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Plus, how often does windows9X lock up on you when you are trying to following the Tech's instructions? So, with Linux I miss things like watching movies and music videos. But I'm for sure glad to be free of the M$ experience. Seve -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I'm only defending against the stupid lies here and in the Linux community. If you made an argument that Linux is better because that's OK. If you start spreading lies like NT crashes left and right, I know it not to be true. We are running a billion dollar business on it. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Sam, why are you defending M$ with so much heart? All issues aside regarding which platform is 'better' and look at the big picture. Do you want your kids' education dictated my M$? How about giving them more than one choice by the time they're old enough? This is partly why I've taken on Linux. M$ has devoured everything in its way (on the old battle field). Remember this rule: You Can't Compete With Your Supplier. Plus, is it not American to support the underdog? Seve -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
