Re: [newbie] Programming
Just based off looking at source code of programs for Linux, the two most often used languages seem to be perl and C++. So on that basis, I'd go with learning both of them. I know that's what I plan to do over the summer (well, I already know some C++ from school, but I know almost nothing of perl) I know that this is rather off-topic, but I notice that Linux comes with a few optional programming programs. Out of the wisening experiences you have all had, which programming langauge would you guys say that it would be wise to invest in? Thanks -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] GUI is gone and so is my sanity
Hello all. This is Andrew of "I can't connect to the internet fame". With the help of one of you, I now have drivers that should run my ethernet and SCSI cards. Now I have a new problem: when I boot up linux and all those "checks" run down the screen, the checks that are usually followed by a green colored "OK" in brackets, one check yields a red "FAILED". The message is something like - delay eth1 initialization. Can't locate module eth1. Before I knew I had a driver problem, I was messing with the network configuration file and may have changed a eth0 setting to eth1. I can't get to the usually GUI login presentation. The furthest I can get when booting up is to a window that has a lego looking peguin graphic and a login prompt. I am at my wit's end can anyone help!!?? -andrew __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie]
Just been through this with my son's computer. We installed a copy of Mandrake 6.1, but the version of XFree86 with this didn't support the video card. Now got it working using Mandrake 7.0. You need to have one Linux partition below the 1024 mark to use LILO. We boot Linux from floppy using LILO with Windows booting from the HD. We put the "/" partition there (just below 1024, as a primary partition /dev/hda2), with an extended partition (/dev/hda3) above 1024, containing separate logical partitions for swap, /usr and /home . It looks to me as if we could have got away with a smaller partition for /boot below 1024, then put everything else in the extended partition above 1024. If I was to reconfigure the whole machine, I might try putting /boot at the start of the disk, quite small, then the Windows C: drive, followed by any other logical DOS drives, with all the rest of my linux partitions at the end. That would give me more scope for using something like Partition Magic to resize partitions later on. Anyway, it's working now, so best left alone. It did take quite a few false starts before we got linux to load, but it looks good now. Best of luck. Ed H --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I have been trying to install Mandrake Linux V7.0 but having some difficulty. The first time I installed it, windows were deleted from the hard disk. I have one 40Gb hard disk. I have re-partitioned the hard disk into two 20Gb partitions. The first partition is the PRIMARY partition, and this is drive C. The second partition is Extended DOS with a ligical drive D. Under Linux the two partitions are /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2. I installed Windows98 on Drive C (the first partition). Now I have intalled Linux on the second partition. Using DiskDrake tool supplied with Mandrake, I re-partitioned /dev/hda2 into three partitions as follows: Root'/' This is about 1500Mb. SWAP'/swap' This is about 128Mb HOME'/home' Rest of /dev/hda2 I could not create '/boot' partition because the cylinder number was higher than 1023. This means I could not install LILO. I can boot Linux using the floopy. Windows boot normally. I would like to have a dual boot system. What am I doing wrong? Could someone recommend how the disk partitioning should be done? I was under the impression that Mandrake would automatically repartition the disk if I selected RECOMMENDED option and I would not be given the disk partitioning screen !!! Help anyone? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards. Mungal. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
Mike Corbeil wrote: flupke wrote: andy wrote: How come when you are in Linux, you can see your Windows partition, but not the other way around?? It's because Micro$oft developpers couldn't ever think that someone uses zinblow$ and another OS at the same time. In fact, I don't think that they are aware that there are other OS'es. But there is a tool called explorext2fs that allows you to browse your ext2 filesystem from zinblow$. Never heard of that tool before. Is it available from MS's web site, or share or free-ware? I don't need it, but others here might be interested. Have you tried it and if yes, then what did you think of it? Indeed, I tried it. (I don't use it anymore, because I definitely thrown my windows away :-) ). It's usefull. You can't see your ext2 file system from your explorer, but rather in a window, like you would see the content of a zip file with zipmagic. But as to know where I got it... No idea! Sorry. I can't remember... HTH Flupke mike HTH Flupke
Re: [newbie] How do you install mySQL ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have used the rpmdrake software to install mySql but I cannot find it anywhere . The installed list doesn't have it in it. So how do install it - I also tried noSql as well and the same thing happened. I followed the instructions in the kpackage installer as well. You can see the files included in a package with "rpm -ql mySql" HTH Flupke
[newbie] Tape Streamer
Hello all. Recently installed Linux using Mandrake 7 and most things work well. This is by far the easiest Linux installer I have used. The only major problem currently (hopefully) is the configuration of my Iomega internal tape streamer. This uses the floppy drive ribbon and presumably requires the floppy drive to be unmounted, Fstab has been modified to remove the reference to supermount and permit manual mounting and unmounting of the floppy drive, with no obvious improvement. Help with this file would be welcomed. This streamer worked ok in Windows and was successfully configured earlier using RedHat Linux so I am fairly sure it is mechanically and electrically ok but when I try to fire it up using the Tape Backup Tool I get a message telling me that there is no tape in the drive (which there is). The links between ftape and rft0 APPEAR to be ok but I am not sure. I have a copy of and have read the Ftape HOWTO but cannot find simple and relevant help there. If anyone out there has met and defeated this particular problem. I would be pleased to hear from them. Many thanks for any help or guidance offered. Alan
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Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
On this whole debate..I'm about to stick my head WAAAY over the parapet here for you Microsoft haters to snipe at So, please, don't get me wrong..I'm intregued with Linux, and I'm really glad I took the plunge. I'm not in any way having a go at Linux with any of my comments. I was more talking about the technical reasons why Windows is visible to Linux, but not vice versa, and thanks for those who've mailed..some off list..to explain. But on the other topic of the ethics, or lack of them, from Microsoft. I'm a relative newcomer to the world of the PC, in whatever form it takes. I hit 41 this year, and touched a mouse for the first time ever only 30 months ago. Microsoft have made computing easy for people like me. I've spent a lot of time learning how Windows works..not necessarily WHY it works..I'll never be a programmer :-)) and consider myself very proficient with the OS. I can run my business on Windows, as well as my leisure PC needs..Linux, as it stands does not offer me that first option. I haven't found anything I've wanted to do on my PC that I cannot do under Windows..I have already found that not to be true with Linux. Hand on heart, even going into Linux with my eyes wide open, armed with the PC 'knowledge' I've had from working in a Windows environment, I really could not see Linux in it's current form ever seriously challenging Windows as the OS of the public. Yes, it may be more powerfiul, yes it may even be more 'Flexible' (Whatever that may mean), yes it may be more stable, but for an absolute novice they would really, really struggle to get anywhere with it. When I was starting out, I spoke to friends who were PC owners, got their help, figured the rest out myself. What would the chances be of me approaching them and saying I've bought this new PC, it has something called Linux on instead of windows..how do I install a program?..and actually finding someone to help me? This forum is just great, and has been a HUGE help over my first few weeks of using the OS, but if I was starting as a total PC newbie, I'd probably never have got this far!!When Linux evolves, as it surely will, to the point where it becomes 'newbie friendly', THEN it will be a serious alternative for the leisure PC market. Yes, I understand all of the arguments that Microsoft are only interested in their own product, and have no interest in supporting other OS's, but frankly...why should they? I have my own tool shop..there is another one up the road..if a customer comes in and wants something I don't stock, do I send my customer down the road, and risk losing him in the future, or try and sell him something else that I have got? I only care about what I sell, and when you are talking about your livelihood, whats wrong with that? There have been plenty of companies who have enjoyed success on the back of the success of the Windows OS The 'Better Platform' doesn't always win, does it? VHS v Betamax, remember that one? Betamax was, technically, a better product, yet VHS was the victor. You'll get a better picture off an expensive camera with zoom lenses, etc, yet most folks use a point and shoot camera. That, to me, sums up this whole thing. Windows is 'Good Enough', and has built up a whole industry around itself. OK (Sits down and waits for the flak)..I've finished!! Cheers Andy
[newbie] Wine
OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
...But come on..what is the REASON? Not 'Because windows is made by 'Satans Sperm' (Something I certainly DON'T subscribe to BTW!!!). Because Windows does not provide support for reading/writing from any partitions that are Windows/DOS partitions. There is little chance that Microsoft will add this support in the forseeable future. Linux does support other partition formats so does read/write Windows. After all, an HTML file, A GIF image is the same on whichever o/s. ((Sits back and waits for someone to tell me 'Oh, no they're not'!!!). Oh, yes they are. How you access the information is O/S dependent. It's a great shame.. I've downloaded stuff onto my Windows partition for Linux, and I can move that over no problem. Much as most folks on here won't like me for saying this, Windows will, for a long, long time, remain my OS of most use. It's therefore a great shame that, while I'm downloading off the web, I can't download Windows stuff while I'm connected via Linux. Download the install files from Linux, store on your Windows partition, and when next you boot up into Windows run the install file. And in case you are wondering, I am typing this message form Windows. Joseph H. Perry Oracle DBA Columbus State University 4225 University Ave Columbus, GA 31907-5645 (706) 568-2063 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
I certainly do not think I am sharper, better, smarter, less destructive than anyone else. That's what I was trying to tell you if you care to listen. You just don't think outside that little bubble you call a life do you? -Original Message- From: Mike Corbeil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Pittman, Merle wrote: YOU ARROGANT P---k!! So a few math and physics courses (probably from mail order, or your nearest community college) make you all that. I have 2 advanced degrees in engineering (electronics and computers) yet I think myself no better or smarter than anyone on this list and neither should you. Having advanced degrees does not necessarily make you a sharper human being, except that you know more about the technical business you studied in. Humans are not reduceable to merely technological terms. There's a hell of a lot more to being a totally balanced human being than an ego trip over advanced degrees in technology. Don't know if you're noticed or not, but technology has also been much the cause for the serious degradation of the natural environment on this planet; therefore, before waving your pieces of paper, think first, because these aren't impressive, no where as much as the continuous destruction of the natural environment of this planet is. If only people with might high pieces of paper in technical studies could only figure out that simple reality. My arrogance is only your interpretation. I wonder if someone who waves highly advanced pieces of paper can figure out the simple meaning of this; however, to give you a little assistance, what it means is that I'm not at all arrogant and it's merely in your eyes that I am. What I am, though, is FRANK and a no-bs type. If you prefer bs, pc crap, then by all means, continue to live that way, if that's how you like to perceive the world; however, don't ever pretend your two pieces of paper to be of any true significance to me, for reasons as stated above. That's what I have to think about many so-called highly educated types. I don't reduce humanity to mathematics or science, but instead take the opposite pov, which is to put these sciences to the service of HUMANITY. Hence I BELIEVE in PEOPLE, far more than I believe in the sciences we discover and develop, but use so atrociously. If you don't grasp this truth, then believe me when I tell you, you'll never be convincing, not to me. If you knew how to read, then you'ld have realized very clearly that I wasn't bragging, but only describing my pov and reasoning to illustrate. T'was not at all for bragging, because, as per above. mike -Original Message- From: Mike Corbeil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Alan Shoemaker wrote: Mikecorrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who's been telling some folks in this list that their questions aren't appropriate for this forum and to go ask them in the expert list? Well I think that your response in this thread (quoted below) was not appropriate for the newbie list. The remedy here was very simple and your four rambling paragraphs have simply served to confuse the issue. Not really, but then maybe I've been accustomed to less than trivial for longer than I can recall. When I first started learning about computers and programming, my ramble wouldn't have caused any problems, but then I also had a few years of math and physics behind me. Nonetheless, if I think back to before that, then I wouldn't have been put off by a more thorough explanation. Heck, my father wanted me to help him remodel the house when I was a mere 8 years old; therefore, I've been held to above normal expectations for decades. If you're confused, then don't think that this means that everyone else who's a newbie would also be confused. As I recall in school, in every course, at every level, not everyone was equally comfortable with the material. What I prefer to do when I find an answer or document too complicated, is to stick with the one I was more comfortable with, as long as it works. Otherwise, I just ask questions for clarification. We're not communicating between people in grade 1 of elementary school, here; therefore, expect some people to provide more thorough answers. When you don't like it, move on. If newbies seeking help scream in panic, then this will definitely help to indicate that what you say is true, but as it is, you're pretending to be able to speak for them, instead of letting them speak for themselves. As a relative newbie to Linux systems
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
Sorry folks, I got that the wrong way around, didn't I!! No trouble downloading Windows stuff while on Linux, it's the other way around!!! I suppose I could doenload, burn to CD-RW and load it into Linux from there. I will now sit in the corner and hang my head in shame!! Cheers Andy - It's a great shame.. I've downloaded stuff onto my Windows partition for Linux, and I can move that over no problem. Much as most folks on here won't like me for saying this, Windows will, for a long, long time, remain my OS of most use. It's therefore a great shame that, while I'm downloading off the web, I can't download Windows stuff while I'm connected via Linux.
Re: [newbie] Installation/Cylinder 1024/and/Boot Magic/8+GB harddrives
Hi I just installed a 15 gig harddrive and made four partitions with linux fdisk and installed Mandrake 7 on the first partition. As long as you keep your boot partition below cylinder 1024 you shouldn't have a problem. Probably your bios must see the whole drive for this to work. Hope this helps. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan and All, I decided to go ahead and spend some more $money$ on my Linux Mandrake distribution, which I have learned was pretty much inevitable if I had any hopes of getting it installed within my time parameters. I think it is important that I mention here for clarity's sake, that if you are a newbie and you have a hard drive that is over 8GB's, you will 'most likely' have to spend more money to purchase another program to work through the partitioning of your hard drive. I think it should actually say this on the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete Box, under the system requirements, that if your hard drive is larger than 8GB's you will may need to purchase another utility in order to install Linux Mandrake or any other Linux distribution on your system in a very user friendly way. The included version 3.0 of Partition Magic will not suffice to do the job in a workable manner. You may also run into the 1024th cylinder barrier as I did and later found out it was 'infamous', and then the also included Boot Magic will not install. I do have to say that I am enjoying learning all of this stuff I never knew about hard drive partitions. :) The application actually cost more than the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete distribution, however if you have purchased this version of Linux and received the non usable for over 8GB hard dirves version 3, then you are elligible for a 40% discount on your upgrade to an actual working version of Partition Magic, which currently is 5.01. Also I want to note to all, that the Partition Magic manufacturer 'PowerQuest.com', look as if they are also owned by MS, as they are almost overly proud partners of MS and have the MS name all over their web site. All of this aside, if it works well for me I will be happy I have it, it seems to have many, new to me, powerful features that I may indeed find very, very useful. Although I am fairly certain that you could take other routes to installation of Linux on a large hard drive, (using fdisk, fips, cfsidk, LILO, etc) I have been thinking of my return deadline, perhaps I should just forget about that, and instead commit myself to accomplishing the task I have set at hand. :) I want my Linux! b/web At 02:21 PM 4/18/00 -0700, you wrote: b/webyou need to have two things before the 1024th cylinder. 1) your primary windows partition (it'll be drive C:) needs to end before the 1024th cylinder (you can have another windows partition that uses whatever other disc space left and it'll be drive D:). 2) a small (16-24 megs) linux partition that you will have to assign the mount point of /boot when you install linux. This can be before or after the windows partition, but it does need to end before the 1024th cylinder also. So, withinin the first (approximately 8 meg) 1023 cylinders of the 17 gig drive you must have a primary dos partition that is set active and has windows installed on it and a 16-24 meg linux partition. then the rest of the drive can contain a) a second dos partition of any size and b) the rest of the partitions needed for the linux installation, but at a minimum, a linux partition of 2-4 gig (or larger) that will be assigned the mount point of / during linux installation and a linux swap partition (size depends on your memory size and intended usage, but let's say no les than 64 meg and no larger than 128 meg). Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am now on my sixth day since I went out and purchased the brand new Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete OS, and I still do not have it installed on my system, I only have four days left before I run out of time at the Software store to return it for a full refund. I am going through install h*ll with the Cylinder 1024 /boot directory thing or obstacle, which I now know to be infamous. I also now understand that Linux requires this Cylinder location for a /boot directory to be inserted(crazy man)? I also understand that the included boot program for the Linux Mandrake OS called 'Boot Magic' will not install and set up on my system because it says I do not have a Primary Partition below the 1024th Cylinder. I was able to install Partition Magic and repartition my hard drive, only to crash into 'Boot Magic's' refusal to install after already having repartitioned my hd. So, I departitioned my hard drive back to its original partition and then I uninstalled Partition Magic as I thought perhaps I could install Boot Magic first, but all to no avail. I am wondering how I go about clearing this 1024th cylinder so
[newbie] i486 binaries
Is the i486 optimized distro for 7.0 included in the Power Pack CD's? I have looked at the box and it doesn't say if they are or not. I have tried numerous times to d/l the iso image from the ftp sites that have it but it always seems to drop connection at about 25% (160 Meg) and the ftp sites the image is on doesn't support resume. I don't mind paying for the package if it has what I need in it. I saw it at CompUSA yesterday on sale for $29.00 = Chad Lumpkin IT Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
Jeepers, I came here for info ang get a friggin' soap opera to boot. What a discusion group!!! At 10:12 AM 4/20/00 -02-30, you wrote: I certainly do not think I am sharper, better, smarter, less destructive than anyone else. That's what I was trying to tell you if you care to listen. You just don't think outside that little bubble you call a life do you? -Original Message- From: Mike Corbeil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Pittman, Merle wrote: YOU ARROGANT P---k!! So a few math and physics courses (probably from mail order, or your nearest community college) make you all that. I have 2 advanced degrees in engineering (electronics and computers) yet I think myself no better or smarter than anyone on this list and neither should you. Having advanced degrees does not necessarily make you a sharper human being, except that you know more about the technical business you studied in. Humans are not reduceable to merely technological terms. There's a hell of a lot more to being a totally balanced human being than an ego trip over advanced degrees in technology. Don't know if you're noticed or not, but technology has also been much the cause for the serious degradation of the natural environment on this planet; therefore, before waving your pieces of paper, think first, because these aren't impressive, no where as much as the continuous destruction of the natural environment of this planet is. If only people with might high pieces of paper in technical studies could only figure out that simple reality. My arrogance is only your interpretation. I wonder if someone who waves highly advanced pieces of paper can figure out the simple meaning of this; however, to give you a little assistance, what it means is that I'm not at all arrogant and it's merely in your eyes that I am. What I am, though, is FRANK and a no-bs type. If you prefer bs, pc crap, then by all means, continue to live that way, if that's how you like to perceive the world; however, don't ever pretend your two pieces of paper to be of any true significance to me, for reasons as stated above. That's what I have to think about many so-called highly educated types. I don't reduce humanity to mathematics or science, but instead take the opposite pov, which is to put these sciences to the service of HUMANITY. Hence I BELIEVE in PEOPLE, far more than I believe in the sciences we discover and develop, but use so atrociously. If you don't grasp this truth, then believe me when I tell you, you'll never be convincing, not to me. If you knew how to read, then you'ld have realized very clearly that I wasn't bragging, but only describing my pov and reasoning to illustrate. T'was not at all for bragging, because, as per above. mike -Original Message- From: Mike Corbeil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Alan Shoemaker wrote: Mikecorrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who's been telling some folks in this list that their questions aren't appropriate for this forum and to go ask them in the expert list? Well I think that your response in this thread (quoted below) was not appropriate for the newbie list. The remedy here was very simple and your four rambling paragraphs have simply served to confuse the issue. Not really, but then maybe I've been accustomed to less than trivial for longer than I can recall. When I first started learning about computers and programming, my ramble wouldn't have caused any problems, but then I also had a few years of math and physics behind me. Nonetheless, if I think back to before that, then I wouldn't have been put off by a more thorough explanation. Heck, my father wanted me to help him remodel the house when I was a mere 8 years old; therefore, I've been held to above normal expectations for decades. If you're confused, then don't think that this means that everyone else who's a newbie would also be confused. As I recall in school, in every course, at every level, not everyone was equally comfortable with the material. What I prefer to do when I find an answer or document too complicated, is to stick with the one I was more comfortable with, as long as it works. Otherwise, I just ask questions for clarification. We're not communicating between people in grade 1 of elementary school, here; therefore, expect some people to provide more thorough answers. When you don't like it, move on. If newbies
[newbie] Cannot open display on install of 7.0 Deluxe
During the install of Version 7.0 Deluxe I am hitting a problem at the start of the phase "in second stage install". The following messages are displayed: _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Thu Apr 20 13:16:42 2000 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 139. install exited abnormally After this the is no option but to reboot the PC. At first I thought this might be a graphics card problem as there was a troubleshooting log for the Matrox card on the Madrake site (I was running an SiS 6205 2MB card) so on the strength of this I went out and purchased a 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 PCI card this morning, but unfortunately I am still getting an identical problem. I have tried using the text based installer and this appears to get me into the actuall install however this does not give me any access to the disk manager which could prove to be another problem. The system I am trying to install on is configured as follows: 6x86-P133+ 40MB EDO RAM 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 PCI Provista 14" VGA Display Adaptec AHA-2940 HP DDS2 C1533A Adaptec AHA-2944 3x Seagate ST32550W SCSI Drives Premier 56K internal PCI modem Creative Labs SoundBlaster 3Com Etherlink III NIC If anyone can shed any light on this problem I would be very grateful. Kind regards, Robert Thorneycroft
[newbie] Installation problems
I was installing Mandrake 1.7 from a CD I made from the Mandrake 702.iso image. When it got to the stage configuring x, it said "an error occurred file.mnt/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards not found." with a ok button and no other option. What do i need to do? Lee Kinkade
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
I have one question for you, and for everyone on the list for that matter. Did you install Lnx4Win? If not and easy was your primary objective, why didn't you give it a go? I would like to hear from anyone else who has installed Lnx4Win and is using it as a regular home PC user. I am interested in installing it on several friends and family members machines if it will be a viable, useable way for them to use a Linux OS. b/web At 11:30 AM 4/20/00 +0100, you wrote: On this whole debate..I'm about to stick my head WAAAY over the parapet here for you Microsoft haters to snipe at So, please, don't get me wrong..I'm intregued with Linux, and I'm really glad I took the plunge. I'm not in any way having a go at Linux with any of my comments. I was more talking about the technical reasons why Windows is visible to Linux, but not vice versa, and thanks for those who've mailed..some off list..to explain. But on the other topic of the ethics, or lack of them, from Microsoft. I'm a relative newcomer to the world of the PC, in whatever form it takes. I hit 41 this year, and touched a mouse for the first time ever only 30 months ago. Microsoft have made computing easy for people like me. I've spent a lot of time learning how Windows works..not necessarily WHY it works..I'll never be a programmer :-)) and consider myself very proficient with the OS. I can run my business on Windows, as well as my leisure PC needs..Linux, as it stands does not offer me that first option. I haven't found anything I've wanted to do on my PC that I cannot do under Windows..I have already found that not to be true with Linux. Hand on heart, even going into Linux with my eyes wide open, armed with the PC 'knowledge' I've had from working in a Windows environment, I really could not see Linux in it's current form ever seriously challenging Windows as the OS of the public. Yes, it may be more powerfiul, yes it may even be more 'Flexible' (Whatever that may mean), yes it may be more stable, but for an absolute novice they would really, really struggle to get anywhere with it. When I was starting out, I spoke to friends who were PC owners, got their help, figured the rest out myself. What would the chances be of me approaching them and saying I've bought this new PC, it has something called Linux on instead of windows..how do I install a program?..and actually finding someone to help me? This forum is just great, and has been a HUGE help over my first few weeks of using the OS, but if I was starting as a total PC newbie, I'd probably never have got this far!!When Linux evolves, as it surely will, to the point where it becomes 'newbie friendly', THEN it will be a serious alternative for the leisure PC market. Yes, I understand all of the arguments that Microsoft are only interested in their own product, and have no interest in supporting other OS's, but frankly...why should they? I have my own tool shop..there is another one up the road..if a customer comes in and wants something I don't stock, do I send my customer down the road, and risk losing him in the future, or try and sell him something else that I have got? I only care about what I sell, and when you are talking about your livelihood, whats wrong with that? There have been plenty of companies who have enjoyed success on the back of the success of the Windows OS The 'Better Platform' doesn't always win, does it? VHS v Betamax, remember that one? Betamax was, technically, a better product, yet VHS was the victor. You'll get a better picture off an expensive camera with zoom lenses, etc, yet most folks use a point and shoot camera. That, to me, sums up this whole thing. Windows is 'Good Enough', and has built up a whole industry around itself. OK (Sits down and waits for the flak)..I've finished!! Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] Wine
I believe it does, the way to find out for sure would be to type rpm -q from the command line. That will tell you what version you have (if you have it). Mike andy wrote: OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Wine
Oops! I didn't give you the whole command. You need to type 'rpm -q wine' without the quotes. Mike Michael Holt wrote: I believe it does, the way to find out for sure would be to type rpm -q from the command line. That will tell you what version you have (if you have it). Mike andy wrote: OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installation/Cylinder 1024/Boot Magic/8+GB hard drives
Hi Dan, Thanks for the helpful suggestions, and thanks to everyone for all of the helpful suggestions. There are a few things I have noticed in all of the help I have received on this matter. It appears that many are coming from the perspective of a clean install, in other words a blank hard drive, where you are installing Linux or a much smaller hard drive. Also I have understood what everyone has been saying in regards to the various partitions I will need for both Linux and Windows(these I already obviously have), and for Linux I will be needing "/", "/boot", "/swap", and I will probably go ahead and build myself a "/home" while I am at it. The problem I have had in understanding what to do is not with the above, but with my "Current" Windows Partition. You see it sets to the left side of my currently single disk partition on my C:\drive(duh) however it extends beyond the 1024th cylinder boundary. OK, so here is where I have been confused since the first day I went at it (although today I think I am finally getting it) How does one cut their Windows Partition in lets say half, and move the right half of it further to the right, creating the necessary room for the "/" directory for Linux below the 1024th cylinder boundary? Wayne mentioned that he split his hard drive in half and put his entire C:\drive to the right and his "/" to the left of his C:\drive, this made actual sense to me, however I then had the question, do not 'dos' and 'win' require the same location below the 1024th cylinder in order to boot? So, I was back to the same original question that I have had since I first wrote into the list, and evidently failed to properly communicate to all of you wonderful helpers out there. ~~ How do I split my Windows Partition and create the room needed for the "/" partition on the *LEFT* side of my hard drive without *destroying* my Windows/DOS Partition, since my Windows Partition extends beyond the 1024th cylinder boundary? ~~ This is really the only question I have had all along. Much Thanks to everyone and many a good Mandrake install to you all. b/web At 08:55 AM 4/20/00 -0400, you wrote: Hi I just installed a 15 gig harddrive and made four partitions with linux fdisk and installed Mandrake 7 on the first partition. As long as you keep your boot partition below cylinder 1024 you shouldn't have a problem. Probably your bios must see the whole drive for this to work. Hope this helps. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan and All, I decided to go ahead and spend some more $money$ on my Linux Mandrake distribution, which I have learned was pretty much inevitable if I had any hopes of getting it installed within my time parameters. I think it is important that I mention here for clarity's sake, that if you are a newbie and you have a hard drive that is over 8GB's, you will 'most likely' have to spend more money to purchase another program to work through the partitioning of your hard drive. I think it should actually say this on the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete Box, under the system requirements, that if your hard drive is larger than 8GB's you will may need to purchase another utility in order to install Linux Mandrake or any other Linux distribution on your system in a very user friendly way. The included version 3.0 of Partition Magic will not suffice to do the job in a workable manner. You may also run into the 1024th cylinder barrier as I did and later found out it was 'infamous', and then the also included Boot Magic will not install. I do have to say that I am enjoying learning all of this stuff I never knew about hard drive partitions. :) The application actually cost more than the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete distribution, however if you have purchased this version of Linux and received the non usable for over 8GB hard dirves version 3, then you are elligible for a 40% discount on your upgrade to an actual working version of Partition Magic, which currently is 5.01. Also I want to note to all, that the Partition Magic manufacturer 'PowerQuest.com', look as if they are also owned by MS, as they are almost overly proud partners of MS and have the MS name all over their web site. All of this aside, if it works well for me I will be happy I have it, it seems to have many, new to me, powerful features that I may indeed find very, very useful. Although I am fairly certain that you could take other routes to installation of Linux on a large hard drive, (using fdisk, fips, cfsidk, LILO, etc) I have been thinking of my return deadline, perhaps I should just forget about that, and instead commit myself to accomplishing the task I have set at hand. :) I want my Linux! b/web At 02:21 PM 4/18/00 -0700, you
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
When i tried it that way, The install took something like 4 hours as uposed to one hour ( actually less) for aregular install. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one question for you, and for everyone on the list for that matter. Did you install Lnx4Win? If not and easy was your primary objective, why didn't you give it a go? I would like to hear from anyone else who has installed Lnx4Win and is using it as a regular home PC user. I am interested in installing it on several friends and family members machines if it will be a viable, useable way for them to use a Linux OS. b/web At 11:30 AM 4/20/00 +0100, you wrote: On this whole debate..I'm about to stick my head WAAAY over the parapet here for you Microsoft haters to snipe at So, please, don't get me wrong..I'm intregued with Linux, and I'm really glad I took the plunge. I'm not in any way having a go at Linux with any of my comments. I was more talking about the technical reasons why Windows is visible to Linux, but not vice versa, and thanks for those who've mailed..some off list..to explain. But on the other topic of the ethics, or lack of them, from Microsoft. I'm a relative newcomer to the world of the PC, in whatever form it takes. I hit 41 this year, and touched a mouse for the first time ever only 30 months ago. Microsoft have made computing easy for people like me. I've spent a lot of time learning how Windows works..not necessarily WHY it works..I'll never be a programmer :-)) and consider myself very proficient with the OS. I can run my business on Windows, as well as my leisure PC needs..Linux, as it stands does not offer me that first option. I haven't found anything I've wanted to do on my PC that I cannot do under Windows..I have already found that not to be true with Linux. Hand on heart, even going into Linux with my eyes wide open, armed with the PC 'knowledge' I've had from working in a Windows environment, I really could not see Linux in it's current form ever seriously challenging Windows as the OS of the public. Yes, it may be more powerfiul, yes it may even be more 'Flexible' (Whatever that may mean), yes it may be more stable, but for an absolute novice they would really, really struggle to get anywhere with it. When I was starting out, I spoke to friends who were PC owners, got their help, figured the rest out myself. What would the chances be of me approaching them and saying I've bought this new PC, it has something called Linux on instead of windows..how do I install a program?..and actually finding someone to help me? This forum is just great, and has been a HUGE help over my first few weeks of using the OS, but if I was starting as a total PC newbie, I'd probably never have got this far!!When Linux evolves, as it surely will, to the point where it becomes 'newbie friendly', THEN it will be a serious alternative for the leisure PC market. Yes, I understand all of the arguments that Microsoft are only interested in their own product, and have no interest in supporting other OS's, but frankly...why should they? I have my own tool shop..there is another one up the road..if a customer comes in and wants something I don't stock, do I send my customer down the road, and risk losing him in the future, or try and sell him something else that I have got? I only care about what I sell, and when you are talking about your livelihood, whats wrong with that? There have been plenty of companies who have enjoyed success on the back of the success of the Windows OS The 'Better Platform' doesn't always win, does it? VHS v Betamax, remember that one? Betamax was, technically, a better product, yet VHS was the victor. You'll get a better picture off an expensive camera with zoom lenses, etc, yet most folks use a point and shoot camera. That, to me, sums up this whole thing. Windows is 'Good Enough', and has built up a whole industry around itself. OK (Sits down and waits for the flak)..I've finished!! Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] unsbscribing from lists
Believe it or not - I thought about writing the unsubscribing informations into my singnature file... I wonder if I should set up an automatic mailer from my server to at the most maybe once every 2 weeks send out a mail with unsubscribing instructions? On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, you wrote: Glad you are havn fun i want to stay on the List Wow... my favourite one so far... two characters are missing. How did this guy make it to suscribe, oh sorry, meant sbcribe? User wrote: unsbcribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [Re: [newbie] Linux Partition]
I am not using it...but from other emails to this list, Lnx4Win is not the best way. Using that install method requires it to sit on top of Windows Fatxx, and hence very much slower than a Linux native partition. Also if your Windows crashes you will lose the Linux install, and have to redo that also. If Linux was on it's own native partition's, whatever Windows does, will not usually affect Linux. Ideally, Linux should run from it's own Linux Native filesystem to really get the full benefit of Linux. HTH Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one question for you, and for everyone on the list for that matter. Did you install Lnx4Win? If not and easy was your primary objective, why didn't you give it a go? I would like to hear from anyone else who has installed Lnx4Win and is using it as a regular home PC user. I am interested in installing it on several friends and family members machines if it will be a viable, useable way for them to use a Linux OS. b/web At 11:30 AM 4/20/00 +0100, you wrote: On this whole debate..I'm about to stick my head WAAAY over the parapet here for you Microsoft haters to snipe at So, please, don't get me wrong..I'm intregued with Linux, and I'm really glad I took the plunge. I'm not in any way having a go at Linux with any of my comments. I was more talking about the technical reasons why Windows is visible to Linux, but not vice versa, and thanks for those who've mailed..some off list..to explain. But on the other topic of the ethics, or lack of them, from Microsoft. I'm a relative newcomer to the world of the PC, in whatever form it takes. I hit 41 this year, and touched a mouse for the first time ever only 30 months ago. Microsoft have made computing easy for people like me. I've spent a lot of time learning how Windows works..not necessarily WHY it works..I'll never be a programmer :-)) and consider myself very proficient with the OS. I can run my business on Windows, as well as my leisure PC needs..Linux, as it stands does not offer me that first option. I haven't found anything I've wanted to do on my PC that I cannot do under Windows..I have already found that not to be true with Linux. Hand on heart, even going into Linux with my eyes wide open, armed with the PC 'knowledge' I've had from working in a Windows environment, I really could not see Linux in it's current form ever seriously challenging Windows as the OS of the public. Yes, it may be more powerfiul, yes it may even be more 'Flexible' (Whatever that may mean), yes it may be more stable, but for an absolute novice they would really, really struggle to get anywhere with it. When I was starting out, I spoke to friends who were PC owners, got their help, figured the rest out myself. What would the chances be of me approaching them and saying I've bought this new PC, it has something called Linux on instead of windows..how do I install a program?..and actually finding someone to help me? This forum is just great, and has been a HUGE help over my first few weeks of using the OS, but if I was starting as a total PC newbie, I'd probably never have got this far!!When Linux evolves, as it surely will, to the point where it becomes 'newbie friendly', THEN it will be a serious alternative for the leisure PC market. Yes, I understand all of the arguments that Microsoft are only interested in their own product, and have no interest in supporting other OS's, but frankly...why should they? I have my own tool shop..there is another one up the road..if a customer comes in and wants something I don't stock, do I send my customer down the road, and risk losing him in the future, or try and sell him something else that I have got? I only care about what I sell, and when you are talking about your livelihood, whats wrong with that? There have been plenty of companies who have enjoyed success on the back of the success of the Windows OS The 'Better Platform' doesn't always win, does it? VHS v Betamax, remember that one? Betamax was, technically, a better product, yet VHS was the victor. You'll get a better picture off an expensive camera with zoom lenses, etc, yet most folks use a point and shoot camera. That, to me, sums up this whole thing. Windows is 'Good Enough', and has built up a whole industry around itself. OK (Sits down and waits for the flak)..I've finished!! Cheers Andy The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] email
Srs. Does aneyone know how may I set the mail server in my Mandrake7.0 Any help willbe aprecciated!! Best regards = Antonio Luiz Oliveira de Noronha Nucleo de Estudos em Química Medicinal - NEQUIM Chemistry Departament - DQ Federal University of Minas Gerais - UFMG Belo Horizonte, MG __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [Re: [newbie] Installation/Cylinder 1024/Boot Magic/8+GB hard drives]
Partition Magic/Boot Magic, Raneesh (sp?) Partition (something), and a few other tools for resizing existing partitions. One word of caution...defrag/scandisk existing Windows info, and disable Norton Utilities, before starting this proceedure. Read all the HELP for your method of choice for resizing, and follow those directions as close as you can. Also a full/total backup of your Windows DATA, would be nice in case of failure. HTH Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, Thanks for the helpful suggestions, and thanks to everyone for all of the helpful suggestions. There are a few things I have noticed in all of the help I have received on this matter. It appears that many are coming from the perspective of a clean install, in other words a blank hard drive, where you are installing Linux or a much smaller hard drive. Also I have understood what everyone has been saying in regards to the various partitions I will need for both Linux and Windows(these I already obviously have), and for Linux I will be needing "/", "/boot", "/swap", and I will probably go ahead and build myself a "/home" while I am at it. The problem I have had in understanding what to do is not with the above, but with my "Current" Windows Partition. You see it sets to the left side of my currently single disk partition on my C:\drive(duh) however it extends beyond the 1024th cylinder boundary. OK, so here is where I have been confused since the first day I went at it (although today I think I am finally getting it) How does one cut their Windows Partition in lets say half, and move the right half of it further to the right, creating the necessary room for the "/" directory for Linux below the 1024th cylinder boundary? Wayne mentioned that he split his hard drive in half and put his entire C:\drive to the right and his "/" to the left of his C:\drive, this made actual sense to me, however I then had the question, do not 'dos' and 'win' require the same location below the 1024th cylinder in order to boot? So, I was back to the same original question that I have had since I first wrote into the list, and evidently failed to properly communicate to all of you wonderful helpers out there. ~~ How do I split my Windows Partition and create the room needed for the "/" partition on the *LEFT* side of my hard drive without *destroying* my Windows/DOS Partition, since my Windows Partition extends beyond the 1024th cylinder boundary? ~~ This is really the only question I have had all along. Much Thanks to everyone and many a good Mandrake install to you all. b/web At 08:55 AM 4/20/00 -0400, you wrote: Hi I just installed a 15 gig harddrive and made four partitions with linux fdisk and installed Mandrake 7 on the first partition. As long as you keep your boot partition below cylinder 1024 you shouldn't have a problem. Probably your bios must see the whole drive for this to work. Hope this helps. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan and All, I decided to go ahead and spend some more $money$ on my Linux Mandrake distribution, which I have learned was pretty much inevitable if I had any hopes of getting it installed within my time parameters. I think it is important that I mention here for clarity's sake, that if you are a newbie and you have a hard drive that is over 8GB's, you will 'most likely' have to spend more money to purchase another program to work through the partitioning of your hard drive. I think it should actually say this on the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete Box, under the system requirements, that if your hard drive is larger than 8GB's you will may need to purchase another utility in order to install Linux Mandrake or any other Linux distribution on your system in a very user friendly way. The included version 3.0 of Partition Magic will not suffice to do the job in a workable manner. You may also run into the 1024th cylinder barrier as I did and later found out it was 'infamous', and then the also included Boot Magic will not install. I do have to say that I am enjoying learning all of this stuff I never knew about hard drive partitions. :) The application actually cost more than the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete distribution, however if you have purchased this version of Linux and received the non usable for over 8GB hard dirves version 3, then you are elligible for a 40% discount on your upgrade to an actual working version of Partition Magic, which currently is 5.01. Also I want to note to all, that the Partition Magic manufacturer 'PowerQuest.com', look as if they are also owned by MS, as they are almost overly proud partners of MS and have the MS name all over their web
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm flupke wrote: Mike Corbeil wrote: flupke wrote: andy wrote: How come when you are in Linux, you can see your Windows partition, but not the other way around?? It's because Micro$oft developpers couldn't ever think that someone uses zinblow$ and another OS at the same time. In fact, I don't think that they are aware that there are other OS'es. But there is a tool called explorext2fs that allows you to browse your ext2 filesystem from zinblow$. Never heard of that tool before. Is it available from MS's web site, or share or free-ware? I don't need it, but others here might be interested. Have you tried it and if yes, then what did you think of it? Indeed, I tried it. (I don't use it anymore, because I definitely thrown my windows away :-) ). It's usefull. You can't see your ext2 file system from your explorer, but rather in a window, like you would see the content of a zip file with zipmagic. But as to know where I got it... No idea! Sorry. I can't remember... HTH Flupke mike HTH Flupke
Re: [newbie] Masquerading
Create a file called network in the directory /etc/sysconfig and re-configure your system, it will work regards I have IP Masquerading set up. My linux box @ 192.168.1.1 is the server, and my windows machines can go on the internet. I just had to set the gateway to 192.168.1.1 and the DNS host to linux (the name of the linux machine) and then i put in the DNS servers that were given to me by my isp. The windows machines work fine for internet, mail, ICQ and stuff like that. On my linux machine, i can't go anywhere in netscape, it says "no route to host". I can ping the DNS server from my linux machine, but nothing else. From the windows machines, i can ping anything. The route tables look like this: Dest Gateway Mask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 00 eth0 208.134.253.102 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 00 ppp0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default 208.134.253.102 0.0.0.0 UG 0 00 ppp0 default 192.168.1.254 0.0.0.0 UG 0 00 eth0 __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = Antonio Luiz Oliveira de Noronha Nucleo de Estudos em Química Medicinal - NEQUIM Chemistry Departament - DQ Federal University of Minas Gerais - UFMG Belo Horizonte, MG __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] modems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a Us Robotics modem and and have installed Mandrake 7 successfully. But the new hardware detector does find the modem but when I get into the KDE and try kppp or linuxconfig I get nothing . I have 4 serial ports 1 of which has a mouse attached one of the others I think is doesn't work and the other 2 are on an expansion card. Any help in setting up modems/ detecting them and getting them to work would be nice. Regards Adrian Mann --snipped copyright notice as long as the message-- Is pnp (plug n Play) os turned off in your bios settings?
Re: [newbie] Wine
If you find that it's not already installed, look in the CD under /Mandrake/RPMS for "wine-991212-1mdk.i586.rpm" Hope that helps.. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/20/2000 08:29:00 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Reynolds/ISSC/Texas Utilities) Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine Oops! I didn't give you the whole command. You need to type 'rpm -q wine' without the quotes. Mike Michael Holt wrote: I believe it does, the way to find out for sure would be to type rpm -q from the command line. That will tell you what version you have (if you have it). Mike andy wrote: OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Wine
Can some one please tell us how to run wine software? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine If you find that it's not already installed, look in the CD under /Mandrake/RPMS for "wine-991212-1mdk.i586.rpm" Hope that helps.. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/20/2000 08:29:00 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Reynolds/ISSC/Texas Utilities) Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine Oops! I didn't give you the whole command. You need to type 'rpm -q wine' without the quotes. Mike Michael Holt wrote: I believe it does, the way to find out for sure would be to type rpm -q from the command line. That will tell you what version you have (if you have it). Mike andy wrote: OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Re: RAM limitation?
To the List: I have an Athlon 550 based system, FIC motherboard with 96 Megs of PC-100 DRAM. I have installed Mandrake 6.5. Why does the system report only 64 Megs of RAM? I've checked the messages file in /var/log, I've looked at the KDE panel and the memory reported is always 64 Megs. Is there a need to patch the kernel in some way? Thank You for any info on this. W. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Checking IP Address
Type "ifconfig" and that should bring you up your IP. Does anyone know how to check the current IP address of a Linux system? I'm using DHCP, and don't have a static address. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] kernel, /, partition sizes-locations
Hello again all,
I am writing this here as it is quicker to see responses than sending it
directly to Mandrake/Macmillans and in case it is of benefit to others. I
am a little confused about the sizes of various kernels and as a result it
is adding to my confusion regarding the size of the "/" partition. I have
received this from Macmillans yesterday, and I am uncertain as to a proper
working size for this new partition.
~~~
We recommend that your native or primary partition ("/") be
---1
approximately 500MB-1GB, your swap partition be about 2 times the
RAM (2 x 64 RAM = 128MB or 2 x 128 RAM = 256MB), and your boot
partition ("/boot") be about 10-20MB.
--2
The boot directory, which may occupy its own partition, contains the
Linux kernel (operating system program) and additional configuration
files. Many users make extra room in this partition to allow for
multiple kernels. (When building a new kernel, it may be helpful to
have old ones as backups.)
Kernel sizes vary depending on their configurations. It is not
unreasonable to allow 750MB for the kernel which comes with a
-3
distribution. Custom built ones tailored to the system can be
smaller. Lilo permits up to 16 kernel images; most people will need
no more than two or three; a 5MB boot partition is probably ample.
-4
~~~
As per above
1- says ("/") is a "Primary Partition" and a size of "500MB-1GB"?
2- says "/boot" is about 10-20MB with no mention if it is Primary or Logical?
3- says it is not unreasonable for a kernel to be 750MB and that this 750MB
kernel resides inside of a 5MB (see below) partition?
4- says that a 5MB "/boot" partition is probably ample for two or three
kernels?
Is it any wonder I have been a little bit confused? :)
My own deductions for the above
1- "/" is a Primary Partition and (I was making mine 4GB at first) must
reside below the 1024th cylinder boundary, this means it must both begin
and end before the 1024th cylinder. However if you are running a dual boot
system you will also have to have win/dos within the same 1024th cylinder
boundary.
2- "/boot" I will assume should be a Logical Partition (as you are
restricted to only 4 Primary Partitions on a hard drive and you want to
conserve them for when they are needed the most), although the 10-20MB size
recommendation also does not work with item 4's size of 5MB.
3- I just do not know how to do this sort of math without running into a
deep negative integer.
4- This math also appears to rely on squared and or cubed integers, some
method of powered multiplication factors.
b/web
My take on all of this... (was [newbie] Linux Partition)
Ok, so I had my little fun with this. Let's be real here. I've been using computers since I was 8 years old (I'm now 28), I've seen 'em come and go. This little debate over Linux vs Windows reminds me of the ST vs Amiga or Atari800 vs Commodore64 bbs flame wars. I've owned the following: Timex/Sinclair 1000, CBM Pet, C64, Atari 800xl, TI 994/A, Atari 520ST, Atari 1040STE, Amiga 500, and a few PC's (from 1994 - up). Point is, I've used a few OS'es and because of that, I can honestly say this: Windows9x is the best thing going. I'll catch hell for that remark, but let me explain myself here.
[newbie] Qt
Im running Mandrake 7.0, with Blackbox/KDE as my window manager. I want to install Blackbox Tools. To do this i have to edit the Makefile and tell it where to find Qt, the only problem is i dont know where the hell Qt is. I know it's on there because i chose everything on install. Please could someone tell me where it is or how to find it. Thanx in advance :-) Ben Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My take on all of this... (was [newbie] Linux Partition)
Ok, so I had my little fun with this. Let's be real here. I've been using computers since I was 8 years old (I'm now 28), I've seen 'em come and go. This little debate over Linux vs Windows reminds me of the ST vs Amiga or Atari800 vs Commodore64 bbs flame wars. I've owned the following: Timex/Sinclair 1000, CBM Pet, C64, Atari 800xl, TI 994/A, Atari 520ST, Atari 1040STE, Amiga 500, and a few PC's (from 1994 - up). Point is, I've used a few OS'es and because of that, I can honestly say this: Windows9x is the best thing going for the average user. I'll catch hell for that remark, but let me explain myself here. I have a total of 4 pc's in my apartment. Of those, 3 of them have Linux and Windows on it. (the 4th is my entertainment machine, gaming and DVD hooked up to my TV). I use each OS extensively and have come to this conclusion: Windows is for the masses and Linux is a throwback (A good thing though!) to the good 'ole days of computing. Windows is easy, it's meant to be. Linux is not, I'm not sure if it was meant to be or not. In Windows, if an application doesn't exist, you wait for it to be created (most windows users are not programmers). With Linux (just like the good 'ole days), if an application doesn't exist, you write it yourself or get help to create it. I love that about Linux. Personally, I don't want Linux to be too easy to use. I think it's better that the people that have and use it, know something about it.With Windows, that's not necessary. (Note: my last email was sent by mistake...)
[newbie] 64Mb instead of 128Mb??
Hello! It's my first ever installation of Linux, so please be nice :-) So. I installed it into my D: DOS partition using Linux4Win (not the best variant, I know... Just didn't want to lose my 8Gb of information :-). And in Linux, when I get info about memory, the system tells me I have 64 Mb, which is wrong - I have 128 Mb. Is there any way to amend it? Thanks in advance!
[newbie] Cannot Install
Hi Anybody can help me with this I try installing mandrake 7 with a boot disk .. it says cdrom not found I have a 40X acer. I try installing using Ln4win.. the installation cannot start when it boots out of windows.. I have to reboot the whole pc and start the installation using the config.sys Now the installation is ok.. but after initializing the swap file it will ask me to install using which media ... I chose cdrom and the thing goes kabom! It just shows me a cdrom initializing popup and after that . nothing works.. I can type anything but nothing works.. Help me man! Richar
[newbie] X
My system was powered down improperlyto make a long story short, I get the following error when attempting to run anything that requires X: /usr/X11R6/bin/X: error in loading shared libraries: libfont.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory However, the file appears to be there and is in the path. Any ideas? Erik B. Flitman ebf technolgies, inc. 305-751-8822 office 305-757-3736 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Problems with the RAM
dont forget after modifying the lilo.conf file, you must execute /sbin/lilo as root to make the changes effective. hope that helps... From: Fernando García Arranz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Problems with the RAM Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:12:40 +0200 I've got a problem with the memory of my PC in Linux. I've got 128 Mb but Linux just recognize 64Mb. What can I do ? I've tried to insert the line "append=128M " into the lilo.conf file , but it doesn't work. Could you give an answer, please. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Checking IP Address
At prompt type ifconfigand that should do it. Nick Horton 1998 Cavalier Z24 5-Speed Weapon-R Intake, RKSport Front Engine Mount Insert, Hellwig Rear Swaybar, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Freedom Design Front Strut Tower Brace, TPS Line Conditioner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Checking IP Address Does anyone know how to check the current IP address of a Linux system? I'm using DHCP, and don't have a static address.
[newbie]
BTW, In case anyone is curious about my sig, which I sometimes forge to delete, not only am I a computer geek but I'm also a car geek. Keep forgetting to delete it. In case anyone was wondering, doubt you all were though. heh. Nick Horton 1998 Cavalier Z24 5-Speed Weapon-R Intake, RKSport Front Engine Mount Insert, Hellwig Rear Swaybar, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Freedom Design Front Strut Tower Brace, TPS Line Conditioner
RE: [newbie] Wine
Try http://www.winehq.com/ "Sami Kutbi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/20/2000 10:38:43 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Reynolds/ISSC/Texas Utilities) Subject: RE: [newbie] Wine Can some one please tell us how to run wine software? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine If you find that it's not already installed, look in the CD under /Mandrake/RPMS for "wine-991212-1mdk.i586.rpm" Hope that helps.. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/20/2000 08:29:00 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Reynolds/ISSC/Texas Utilities) Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine Oops! I didn't give you the whole command. You need to type 'rpm -q wine' without the quotes. Mike Michael Holt wrote: I believe it does, the way to find out for sure would be to type rpm -q from the command line. That will tell you what version you have (if you have it). Mike andy wrote: OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] SCSI or IDE or ISA
I'm trying to install Mandrake 7.0 from CD-ROM to a gateway E5200 with 2 internal quantum fireball drives. The drives show up in winnt, start-settings-control panel-scsi adapters as: Promise Technology Inc, Ultra66 IDE Controller-driver started Quantum FIREBALL LM Quantum FIREBALL LM a search on for the drivers indicates that they are at c: \winnt\system32\drivers\ultra66.sys There are two CD-ROM devices that are definitely scsi identified. The machine's owner says these are not SCSI devices and should not be showing up ... the computer support group says the owner is full of crap and of course its a scsi drive. anywaythe installation progresses to scsi interface? will only accept yes and does not list a drive for the disk. Is there a way to tell the installation to use a different driver? also is there a graceful way to get out of the installation program thanks for your help... [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I am what I am and that's all that I am"..Popeye
Re: [newbie] cable modem
Why am I getting your email ?? -Original Message- From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cable modem Do you have a static IP or a dynamic IP? If you have a dynamic IP address, mandrake should set this up automatically if, during the install process you tell it to set up your network card with dynamic IP. On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: I am hooked up through a cable modem through my local provider. Windows detects this and sets it up by itself and this is what the provider supports. Is there a way to have Linux do the same because they won't give me any information such as host address, ip address ect. because they don't support Linux. Thanks, Jacob Holbrook Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] cable modem
Why am I getting your email?? -Original Message- From: Bruce Endries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cable modem I use Linux with a cable modem on RoadRunner, and it works great. Why don't you try this: Run LinuxConf. Go to Networking, then to basic host info. Then select the tab for your network card (eth0). Click on the optin for DHCP. Back out of LinuxConf, activating your changes. You may have to reboot, I don't know. That's ALL I have to do to make RoadRunner work with Linux. Maybe it will work for you. It's worth a try. Good Luck! Jacob Aaron Holbrook wrote: well I just called them again to try and get the information. They said that they cannot give it out because it changes all the time and they cannot assign a "static address" to me. I ran netcfg and set my eth0 to active, saved, closed the window and tried to ping. It didn't work so i went back into netcfg and my eth0 was inactive again.
Re: [newbie] cable modem
Why am I getting your email -Original Message- From: Jacob Aaron Holbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cable modem well I called them again..and they said that they could not give them to me because they don't know what they are...and said that they "cannot assign static names". This is because it uses dhcp to obtain them. - Original Message - From: "Valjean" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] cable modem I work for an ISP and I know how Technical Support can be...with as many calls as flood the phone center, there isn't time simply to handle every call that comes in with various software. Personally when a customer calls to ask for DNS, mail info, I give it, or direct them to our website. Check your provider's website for a "quick config sheet" or the like. Valjean On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Pittman, Merle wrote: Exactly! The fact that it is linux has nothing to do with it. They are still responsible to give you the information. With my cable provider I have to get the information to set up windows as well, and they are very willing to give you the info. They do not support linux but still give you the info and it is up to you to get it working. How can Windows set it up automatically?? Sure it can recognize the IP assigned if your ISP uses Dynamic IP addressing, but how do you configure DNS and your email servers?? -Original Message- From: Jacob Aaron Holbrook [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] cable modem Not possible, as long as I want to stay on a cable modem. And that is a definite must. I know it kinda pissed me off but her argument was that they don't support Linuxwhat does that have to do with anything. - Original Message - From: "Pittman, Merle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] cable modem They won't give you any address info?? I'd suggest switching providers if that's possible. -Original Message- From: Jacob Aaron Holbrook [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] cable modem I am hooked up through a cable modem through my local provider. Windows detects this and sets it up by itself and this is what the provider supports. Is there a way to have Linux do the same because they won't give me any information such as host address, ip address ect. because they don't support Linux. Thanks, Jacob Holbrook
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
I appear to be getting all the email from your forum/discussion group. Like 100's a day. What is the forum called so that I can try to get it fixed ?? Bryn Jones -Original Message- From: Jim Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Jeepers, I came here for info ang get a friggin' soap opera to boot. What a discusion group!!! At 10:12 AM 4/20/00 -02-30, you wrote: I certainly do not think I am sharper, better, smarter, less destructive than anyone else. That's what I was trying to tell you if you care to listen. You just don't think outside that little bubble you call a life do you? -Original Message- From: Mike Corbeil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Pittman, Merle wrote: YOU ARROGANT P---k!! So a few math and physics courses (probably from mail order, or your nearest community college) make you all that. I have 2 advanced degrees in engineering (electronics and computers) yet I think myself no better or smarter than anyone on this list and neither should you. Having advanced degrees does not necessarily make you a sharper human being, except that you know more about the technical business you studied in. Humans are not reduceable to merely technological terms. There's a hell of a lot more to being a totally balanced human being than an ego trip over advanced degrees in technology. Don't know if you're noticed or not, but technology has also been much the cause for the serious degradation of the natural environment on this planet; therefore, before waving your pieces of paper, think first, because these aren't impressive, no where as much as the continuous destruction of the natural environment of this planet is. If only people with might high pieces of paper in technical studies could only figure out that simple reality. My arrogance is only your interpretation. I wonder if someone who waves highly advanced pieces of paper can figure out the simple meaning of this; however, to give you a little assistance, what it means is that I'm not at all arrogant and it's merely in your eyes that I am. What I am, though, is FRANK and a no-bs type. If you prefer bs, pc crap, then by all means, continue to live that way, if that's how you like to perceive the world; however, don't ever pretend your two pieces of paper to be of any true significance to me, for reasons as stated above. That's what I have to think about many so-called highly educated types. I don't reduce humanity to mathematics or science, but instead take the opposite pov, which is to put these sciences to the service of HUMANITY. Hence I BELIEVE in PEOPLE, far more than I believe in the sciences we discover and develop, but use so atrociously. If you don't grasp this truth, then believe me when I tell you, you'll never be convincing, not to me. If you knew how to read, then you'ld have realized very clearly that I wasn't bragging, but only describing my pov and reasoning to illustrate. T'was not at all for bragging, because, as per above. mike -Original Message- From: Mike Corbeil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1 Alan Shoemaker wrote: Mikecorrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who's been telling some folks in this list that their questions aren't appropriate for this forum and to go ask them in the expert list? Well I think that your response in this thread (quoted below) was not appropriate for the newbie list. The remedy here was very simple and your four rambling paragraphs have simply served to confuse the issue. Not really, but then maybe I've been accustomed to less than trivial for longer than I can recall. When I first started learning about computers and programming, my ramble wouldn't have caused any problems, but then I also had a few years of math and physics behind me. Nonetheless, if I think back to before that, then I wouldn't have been put off by a more thorough explanation. Heck, my father wanted me to help him remodel the house when I was a mere 8 years old; therefore, I've been held to above normal expectations for decades. If you're confused, then don't think that this means that everyone else who's a newbie would also be confused. As I recall in school, in every course, at every level, not everyone was equally comfortable with the material. What I prefer to do when I find an answer or document too complicated, is
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Your problem is very simple. You have a fan failure (over the main chip) or you have some dodgy memory. Open the case up and check the little fan is turning. If not, don't use your machine until you have a new one on (typical cost £3). If the fan is fine and the machine is still under warrenty (I imagine it is with this kind of bedding-in problem) take it back the the shop and get them to replace the memory/motherboard/main chip until it starts working. Also, try using the computer with a few other OS's (like Windows or whatever) to make sure there wasn't a manufactureing fault on your install disk (very unlikely). Bill. - Original Message - From: Mohamed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Good morning everyone... Thanks a lot for ur reply... :) hi seve... well... i wasn't running any special services when i experienced these crashes!! have a look for urself! :) KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! I was just running Netscape! KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Nothing special! just the terminal, i think! Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" Nothing was running at all!! I had just logged in! :) Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) Guess i was playing some KDE games!! :) Hmmm.. about my version... i dunno its precise number! but it is the version that came with PC PLUS this month! :) Thank u for ur help... Have a nice day... Urs forever.. Mohamed Saad __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
[newbie] Accessing NT lan from Linux - SERIOUSLY - I desperat ely need help on this, guys...]
Never heard of Sambar for NT. Don't believe it exists because Mickeysoft hate anything to do with UNIX and do their best to discorage it. As Linux is compatible with NT networking there is really no need for this kind of thing. I would have thought you would use Samba and set your machine up (in Samba) as an NT client (so the NT servers think your kosher). Look at the NT-Howto, which will be on just about all the ftp download sites in plain text, HTML, .pfd and postscript. This is a very common and easily solveble thing, and shouldn't be any trouble for you once you have it set up. Try: $ man samba too. Bill. - Original Message - From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [RE: [newbie] Accessing NT lan from Linux - SERIOUSLY - I desperat ely need help on this, guys...] Apparently there is also a Windows version of Samba...called Sambar, maybe that is what your looking for?? HTH Jaguar Nicholas Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know that is what SAMBA was for. www.samba.org Nick Horton 1998 Cavalier Z24 5-Speed Weapon-R Intake, RKSport Front Engine Mount Insert, Hellwig Rear Swaybar, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Freedom Design Front Strut Tower Brace, TPS Line Conditioner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Accessing NT lan from Linux - SERIOUSLY - I desperately need help on this, guys... I've asked about this before, and haven't heard anything - How do you access/map/mount NT lan drives when you're running Linux on an NT lan? The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. ___ _ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: I appear to be getting all the email from your forum/discussion group. Like 100's a day. What is the forum called so that I can try to get it fixed ?? Bryn Jones Hello Bryn, I'll not copy and resend all that pseudo intellectual crap, we in the "mainstream" have better manners than certain "eggheads" that are better left to their own devices. Please ignore them and maybe they will go away! One of them said a day or two ago they wouldn't go to the trouble of opening attachments to read them. Best reason I've heard so far to use attachments! Spam comes in all flavors! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Located on a dusty dirt road, running roughly parallel to the information highway. Awaiting BellSouth's efforts to bridge the "digital divide". Country penguins rock when given the chance.
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: I appear to be getting all the email from your forum/discussion group. Like 100's a day. What is the forum called so that I can try to get it fixed ?? Bryn Jones Now there's a bit of good old Welsh common sense - isn't it. I suggest that, if people want a flame war, they nip over to egroups and start up a group. I imagine that 99% of the people on this list aren't the slightest bit interested in this continuing string and regard the participants as totally childish. Can we get back to the basic principles of this list which is mutual help and support with MANDRAKE. -- Regards John the Nadger http://www.mklinux.co.uk http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
Weird, I download Linux stuff via windows all the time (on my universities fast connection). Sometimes (like now, when I am stuck on a machine with a software modem) I download Linux stuff too. I put it all in C:\linux (or Z:\) then either mount hda1 or hdb4 (my 'C:' and my zip drive, that it) and get at what I want as /mnt/DOS_hda1/linux or as /mnt/zip. Simple. Is that really what your problem is? - Original Message - From: andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Partition Sorry folks, I got that the wrong way around, didn't I!! No trouble downloading Windows stuff while on Linux, it's the other way around!!! I suppose I could doenload, burn to CD-RW and load it into Linux from there. I will now sit in the corner and hang my head in shame!! Cheers Andy - It's a great shame.. I've downloaded stuff onto my Windows partition for Linux, and I can move that over no problem. Much as most folks on here won't like me for saying this, Windows will, for a long, long time, remain my OS of most use. It's therefore a great shame that, while I'm downloading off the web, I can't download Windows stuff while I'm connected via Linux.
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
- Original Message - From: Joseph S. Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? I encountered a VERY similar problem and it turned out that the video card was not seated completely. I had just installed a new video card and hard-drive and followed up with an upgrade to 7.02. Netscape would crash aLOT and since I had not experienced any problems with the prior 6.1 version I assumed it was Netscape not realizing that I hadn't run the new hardware very long before I upgraded from 6.1 to 7.02. I ended up having to cut some of the bottom of the mounting bracket off of the video card before I could get it to seat properly. *Bill replies* Very interesting. As far as I can tell Linux is just very very stable, so when people get these stability problems it is pretty well always the hardware. It is only pure chance I knew that as my dad had a Windows machine that used to do these random crashes too, and it turned out to be in his case the memory. I hear that Linux is basically good for about 400 days, then some counter inside turns over back to 0 and mucks everything up. I've got a 486 on as I type that has an uptime of about 2 weeks now, so I'll see how far I get with it and whether it can go the distance. Regards, Bill.
[newbie] ADSL Support for efficient network card
Hi Wonder if anybody have the driver for the efficient network ATM 3060 network card? and how can I get the drivers and how do I install it? I have been trying to go into the net but none of the drivers supplied works! Kindly get to me soon! Richard
Re: [newbie] Copying text from kedit to netscape mail
If only I had known it was that simple, thanks Nev Alan Shoemaker wrote: Nevhighlight some text with the mouse cursor using left mouse button. Make sure the window you highlighted text in stays open and the highlighted text stays highlighted till you paste. Paste with mouse cursor using middle mouse button. Alan Neville Cobb wrote: Is there a way to copy text from say Kedit and paste it into Netscape mail. I've tried everything but cannot achieve it, is there a process that I've overlooked? Nev
[newbie] Slow internet connection....
OK, I finally got a working connection to my ISP. But its very slow, not so much on netscape, but when I download mail (using either kmail or netscape mail). What could it be? Hendrik
Re: [newbie] GUI is gone and so is my sanity
You mean you started playing w/ Linux BEFORE you went insane. That explains a lot. ;) Seriously tho - quick and dirty way to get to a gui: Log in at the Penguin prompt. You'll get another prompt type 'startx' w/o the quotes of course. You have probably changed your default run level somewhere. I don't remember the EXACT location/name of the file right now, but I'm sure someone will reply w/ it. Ty C. Mixon F.T.C. Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26147713
Re: [newbie] Installation/Cylinder 1024/Boot Magic/8+GB hard drives
GeraldI've already detailed, in an earlier message to b/web, what he needs to do to accomplish what he wants. Basically what that is, is to use BootMagic as the boot loader, and to have Linux Mandrake 7 and Windows9x coexist and dual boot on a 17 gb IDE drive. What he needs to accomplish is to shrink his windows partition down to fit totally before the 1024th cylinder so that BootMagic will install in windows (otherwise, it won't install). He also needs to leave 16-24 megs of space unused either before or after the windows partition for a linux /boot partition, but both of these partitions need to stay inside the 1024th cylinder boundary. Then he can partition the area beyond the 1024th cylinder however he wants, so as to accomodate the Linux installation and a D: drive for windows. Alan Gerald E Peck wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:56:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [stuff deleted] Wayne mentioned that he split his hard drive in half and put his entire C:\drive to the right and his "/" to the left of his C:\drive, this made actual sense to me, however I then had the question, do not 'dos' and 'win' require the same location below the 1024th cylinder in order to boot? Actually no, if I'm understanding what you're asking and trying to do. If you want to have a dual boot system you need a boot manager such as Lilo. "/boot" needs to be your first partition because this is where Lilo will write the information it needs to dual boot. Lilo boots from the information in "/boot" and then sends control to whichever OS you decide to start up. You actually boot Lilo, not an operating system. Then it starts an operating system. Once again, if I've missed some of the details or explained things slightly wrong anyone with better information please correct me. I'm only stating my understanding of how this works. :-) Gerald
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
I just couldn't let this one escape...a word or two This is exactly why God HATES pride and ego... 1. because it stops us from becoming all that God wants us to be. 2. because it eventually leads to arguments...and hate for each other. "satan"...is the enemy here...not yourselfs...realise this... and stop this bickering. "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "Pittman, Merle" wrote: YOU ARROGANT P---k!! So a few math and physics courses (probably from mail order, or your nearest community college) make you all that. I have 2 advanced degrees in engineering (electronics and computers) yet I think myself no better or smarter than anyone on this list and neither should you. Oh MAN! Is this going to turn into a battle of egos now? For someone with... oh, never mind. -Stephen- -- ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit===
Re[2]: [newbie] SAMBA
Probably you don't have samba configured at all. check out www.mandrakeuser.org Tom has a great samba primer posted. Got everything but linux to window printing up on mine with that. Ty C. Mixon F.T.C. Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26147713
Re: [newbie] new system recommendations
I've heard that ASUS would be releasing a dual processor board for the Athlon, but I haven't seen anything official. I myself am planning to build an Athlon 700 system this summer, and I've been watching the reviews at www.anandtech.com The board that I'm most impressed with at this point is the Abit KA7. It has 6 pci slots (something that has been lacking in the most stable boards), 4 Dimm slots supporting up to 2 GB of RAM, 2x / 4x AGP port, 4 USB ports, UDMA 66 and I believe they will be offering a version later this summer that also supports the new UDMA 100 when it's available. Check out these links for more info: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1222p=1 http://www.ocworkbench.com/hardware/abit/ka7/ka7p1.htm The second link is more a review about overclockability, which I don't know if you're interested, but this seems to be the only area where the abit board doesn't rate as high. I include it for reference. Whatever you end up working with, let me know the outcome, k? Mike "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Looking to put together a new Mandrake 7 system with an Athlon 700+ cpu. I'm looking for recommendations for a mobo that will be rock solid. I curently do not need but and am concidering the possibility of a dual cpu board, perhaps one I could just drop one in for the time being. Anyone got a favorite? Thanks, -- Joseph S. Gardner www.handi-krafts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227 -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] new system recommendations
Looking to put together a new Mandrake 7 system with an Athlon 700+ cpu. I'm looking for recommendations for a mobo that will be rock solid. I curently do not need but and am concidering the possibility of a dual cpu board, perhaps one I could just drop one in for the time being. Anyone got a favorite? Thanks, -- Joseph S. Gardner www.handi-krafts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
Re: My take on all of this... (was [newbie] Linux Partition)
I agree, sometimes it's hard to explain why I like it (Linux) so much. I can't really, in good conscience, try to get everyone I know to convert to Linux because of the simple fact - most people don't care to spend their evening 'configuring' things, they just want to sit down and write and email, browse ESPN, or do their taxes! Windows may not be known for stability (I hear iMac's have that market cornered!), but for the everyday stuff, my wife (who is definitely NOT interested in how / why the computer works) can get *stuff* done. Mike George Jones wrote: Ok, so I had my little fun with this. Let's be real here. I've been using computers since I was 8 years old (I'm now 28), I've seen 'em come and go. This little debate over Linux vs Windows reminds me of the ST vs Amiga or Atari800 vs Commodore64 bbs flame wars. I've owned the following: Timex/Sinclair 1000, CBM Pet, C64, Atari 800xl, TI 994/A, Atari 520ST, Atari 1040STE, Amiga 500, and a few PC's (from 1994 - up). Point is, I've used a few OS'es and because of that, I can honestly say this: Windows9x is the best thing going for the average user. I'll catch hell for that remark, but let me explain myself here. I have a total of 4 pc's in my apartment. Of those, 3 of them have Linux and Windows on it. (the 4th is my entertainment machine, gaming and DVD hooked up to my TV). I use each OS extensively and have come to this conclusion: Windows is for the masses and Linux is a throwback (A good thing though!) to the good 'ole days of computing. Windows is easy, it's meant to be. Linux is not, I'm not sure if it was meant to be or not. In Windows, if an application doesn't exist, you wait for it to be created (most windows users are not programmers). With Linux (just like the good 'ole days), if an application doesn't exist, you write it yourself or get help to create it. I love that about Linux. Personally, I don't want Linux to be too easy to use. I think it's better that the people that have and use it, know something about it.With Windows, that's not necessary. (Note: my last email was sent by mistake...) -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
LOL!!! vern wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: I appear to be getting all the email from your forum/discussion group. Like 100's a day. What is the forum called so that I can try to get it fixed ?? Bryn Jones Hello Bryn, I'll not copy and resend all that pseudo intellectual crap, we in the "mainstream" have better manners than certain "eggheads" that are better left to their own devices. Please ignore them and maybe they will go away! One of them said a day or two ago they wouldn't go to the trouble of opening attachments to read them. Best reason I've heard so far to use attachments! Spam comes in all flavors! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Located on a dusty dirt road, running roughly parallel to the information highway. Awaiting BellSouth's efforts to bridge the "digital divide". Country penguins rock when given the chance. -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] LILO and modem issues
First, a little background. I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?! command prompt?!) who intended to install LinuxPPC about this time last year. I never got around to it. About three weeks ago I bought a PC and decided to make some use of it by getting a second hard drive and installing Mandrake on it. Call me crazy, but the idea of partitioning something I use every day scares me. I have heard too many stories about partitons breaking down, I suppose. After much gnashing of teeth and general hassle, I got the thing mounted (damn these cheap micro ATX cases!) and just finally got Mandrake installed, after trying four times. It is a 10GB Western Digital, if that matters. My Windows 98 hard drive is primary master. My Mandrake hard drive is primary slave. I have nothing for a secondary master. My CD-ROM is the secondary slave. First problem: LILO. Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive in BIOS to boot my Linux drive. When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive. I'd love to be able to make a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up. I attempted to reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting something. I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first. Any ideas/suggestions? Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake install. Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy. It's definitely not. I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was under the impression that it was supported by Linux. It is a Rockwell ACF II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language). Today I read something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by Linux. Was I misled? Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem webpage? Sheesh. I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here. Bear with me. Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"! Thanks, Kathleen
[newbie] To Vernon Stilwell, whoever you are!
Located on a dusty dirt road, running roughly parallel to the information highway. Awaiting BellSouth's efforts to bridge the "digital divide". Mr, Stilwell, your little sig file here made me and my co-workers laugh and generally feel better. I work at a smallish I.S.P. in Colorado. We fight with US West DAILY about bridging our digital divide. Hell, we don't even the option to offer DSL to our customers here. In a way, it's kinda nice to know it's not just USWest that bites. Thanks, Kathleen
[newbie] 7.02 ISO image question
hello again, I downloaded the 7.02 ISO file to disk. I then tried copying the file to a CD. The CD recording software (called just!Data) on my PC seems to have just copied the .iso file onto the CD - there is no directory structure or anything. Should the recording software have taken care of that, or I am missing a step or ten ? Thanks, Phil
Re: [newbie] cable modem
I don't know, probably because Kmail does not know poop from shinola and when I press reply it don't know who to reply to. On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: Why am I getting your email ?? -Original Message- From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cable modem Do you have a static IP or a dynamic IP? If you have a dynamic IP address, mandrake should set this up automatically if, during the install process you tell it to set up your network card with dynamic IP. On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: I am hooked up through a cable modem through my local provider. Windows detects this and sets it up by itself and this is what the provider supports. Is there a way to have Linux do the same because they won't give me any information such as host address, ip address ect. because they don't support Linux. Thanks, Jacob Holbrook Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Want to make some extra pocket change listening to your realplayer while you surf? http://www.radiofreecash.com/home.asp?ref=kittypuss Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
[newbie] RPM problems
I am new to Mandrak, switching from Caldera. I have tried to install Canvas 7 in rpm form, and even Mandrak openssh rpm and all failed. Seems rpm is screwed. I did get an error msg that I can not dupe a the moment but seem to remember cant access lib6 /var/lib/rpm/requiredby.rpm (I know /var/lib/rpm/requiredby.rpm was part of the error.) I can not install new RPMs often X will shutdown the KDM window. Any ideas? -- Best Regards, Bruce
[newbie] Path updating
Hi, I upgraded to Sun's JDK 1.2.2. It is located in /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/bin, however the orginal Mandrake JDK is located at /usr/bin/java and I can not make my system reconize the new location. I seem to recall a file that hold this info, similar to the old DOS config.sys. What/where is the Mandrake equalivent? I have tried to update /etc/profile, and home/.bashrc but no dice -- Best Regards, Bruce
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
I remember the VHS vs. Beta war and wow was it bloody. When I was little I liked VHS for a totally stupid reason, but after I found out that BetaMax was built on the design of the U-matic, I found out why it produced a better picture. Do you remember an old commercial video format called U-matic? On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: On this whole debate..I'm about to stick my head WAAAY over the parapet here for you Microsoft haters to snipe at So, please, don't get me wrong..I'm intregued with Linux, and I'm really glad I took the plunge. I'm not in any way having a go at Linux with any of my comments. I was more talking about the technical reasons why Windows is visible to Linux, but not vice versa, and thanks for those who've mailed..some off list..to explain. But on the other topic of the ethics, or lack of them, from Microsoft. I'm a relative newcomer to the world of the PC, in whatever form it takes. I hit 41 this year, and touched a mouse for the first time ever only 30 months ago. Microsoft have made computing easy for people like me. I've spent a lot of time learning how Windows works..not necessarily WHY it works..I'll never be a programmer :-)) and consider myself very proficient with the OS. I can run my business on Windows, as well as my leisure PC needs..Linux, as it stands does not offer me that first option. I haven't found anything I've wanted to do on my PC that I cannot do under Windows..I have already found that not to be true with Linux. Hand on heart, even going into Linux with my eyes wide open, armed with the PC 'knowledge' I've had from working in a Windows environment, I really could not see Linux in it's current form ever seriously challenging Windows as the OS of the public. Yes, it may be more powerfiul, yes it may even be more 'Flexible' (Whatever that may mean), yes it may be more stable, but for an absolute novice they would really, really struggle to get anywhere with it. When I was starting out, I spoke to friends who were PC owners, got their help, figured the rest out myself. What would the chances be of me approaching them and saying I've bought this new PC, it has something called Linux on instead of windows..how do I install a program?..and actually finding someone to help me? This forum is just great, and has been a HUGE help over my first few weeks of using the OS, but if I was starting as a total PC newbie, I'd probably never have got this far!!When Linux evolves, as it surely will, to the point where it becomes 'newbie friendly', THEN it will be a serious alternative for the leisure PC market. Yes, I understand all of the arguments that Microsoft are only interested in their own product, and have no interest in supporting other OS's, but frankly...why should they? I have my own tool shop..there is another one up the road..if a customer comes in and wants something I don't stock, do I send my customer down the road, and risk losing him in the future, or try and sell him something else that I have got? I only care about what I sell, and when you are talking about your livelihood, whats wrong with that? There have been plenty of companies who have enjoyed success on the back of the success of the Windows OS The 'Better Platform' doesn't always win, does it? VHS v Betamax, remember that one? Betamax was, technically, a better product, yet VHS was the victor. You'll get a better picture off an expensive camera with zoom lenses, etc, yet most folks use a point and shoot camera. That, to me, sums up this whole thing. Windows is 'Good Enough', and has built up a whole industry around itself. OK (Sits down and waits for the flak)..I've finished!! Cheers Andy -- Want to make some extra pocket change listening to your realplayer while you surf? http://www.radiofreecash.com/home.asp?ref=kittypuss Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
[newbie] How-to have Multiple distros on one hard drive
Hi all, I just got a machine with a 40 GB drive. For various reasons I would like to try and setup Windows (I know, I know - I need it for work..), Mandrake and another linux distro - possibly suse, or have a second mandrake install for playing around with new stuff, yet maintain a stable install. I have plenty enough disk for this, and have setup a dual-boot windows/mandrake system before. But, I'm not sure about approaching this - the threads I read today about what you can and can't have below the 1024 cylinder got me thinking. For this, would I need 2 \boot partitons ? Is that possible ? Or just the one for lilo and then just partition the heck out of the machine ? help ! thx, phil
Re: [newbie] Wine
I believe you have to call wine when you attempt to run a windows application, such as: wine windowsprogramme.exe instead of just typing windowsprogramme.exe On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, you wrote: OK, a REALLY basic one.. Does Mandrake load Wine when you install the os, or do yuo have to get it from another source? I'm sure I read on here it comes as part of the standard Mandrake install, but I'm beggered if I can find it!!! When I installed Mandrake 7, I went for the standard install, and I've put it into a huge disc partition, so I didn't get any messages saying I wouldn't get a full install (I got those when trying to put it onto a smaller partition). Cheers Andy -- Want to make some extra pocket change listening to your realplayer while you surf? http://www.radiofreecash.com/home.asp?ref=kittypuss Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
Re: [newbie] Linux Partition
I got my machine to format a mac zip disk also. On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Joe Perry wrote: Because Windows does not provide support for reading/writing from any partitions that are Windows/DOS partitions. There is little chance that Microsoft will add this support in the forseeable future. Linux does support other partition formats so does read/write Windows. After all, an HTML file, A GIF image is the same on whichever o/s. ((Sits back and waits for someone to tell me 'Oh, no they're not'!!!). Oh, yes they are. How you access the information is O/S dependent. It's a great shame.. I've downloaded stuff onto my Windows partition for Linux, and I can move that over no problem. Much as most folks on here won't like me for saying this, Windows will, for a long, long time, remain my OS of most use. It's therefore a great shame that, while I'm downloading off the web, I can't download Windows stuff while I'm connected via Linux. Download the install files from Linux, store on your Windows partition, and when next you boot up into Windows run the install file. And in case you are wondering, I am typing this message form Windows. Joseph H. Perry Oracle DBA Columbus State University 4225 University Ave Columbus, GA 31907-5645 (706) 568-2063 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to make some extra pocket change listening to your realplayer while you surf? http://www.radiofreecash.com/home.asp?ref=kittypuss Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
Re: [[newbie] Accessing NT lan from Linux - SERIOUSLY - I desperat ely need help on this, guys...]]
http://www.softseek.com/Internet/Web_Publishing_Tools/Servers/Review_10592_index.html Have a look Sambar for Win 9x/NT/2000 "William Palfreman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never heard of Sambar for NT. Don't believe it exists because Mickeysoft hate anything to do with UNIX and do their best to discorage it. As Linux is compatible with NT networking there is really no need for this kind of thing. I would have thought you would use Samba and set your machine up (in Samba) as an NT client (so the NT servers think your kosher). Look at the NT-Howto, which will be on just about all the ftp download sites in plain text, HTML, .pfd and postscript. This is a very common and easily solveble thing, and shouldn't be any trouble for you once you have it set up. Try: $ man samba too. Bill. - Original Message - From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [RE: [newbie] Accessing NT lan from Linux - SERIOUSLY - I desperat ely need help on this, guys...] Apparently there is also a Windows version of Samba...called Sambar, maybe that is what your looking for?? HTH Jaguar Nicholas Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know that is what SAMBA was for. www.samba.org Nick Horton 1998 Cavalier Z24 5-Speed Weapon-R Intake, RKSport Front Engine Mount Insert, Hellwig Rear Swaybar, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Freedom Design Front Strut Tower Brace, TPS Line Conditioner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Accessing NT lan from Linux - SERIOUSLY - I desperately need help on this, guys... I've asked about this before, and haven't heard anything - How do you access/map/mount NT lan drives when you're running Linux on an NT lan? The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. ___ _ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] 7.02 ISO image question
I downloaded the 7.02 ISO file to disk. I then tried copying the file to a CD. The CD recording software (called just!Data) on my PC seems to have just copied the .iso file onto the CD - there is no directory structure or anything. Should the recording software have taken care of that, or I am missing a step or ten ? Do you have one of the Sony CD-RW drives in a commercially integrated package? I've seen just one of those (a Compaq), and it included the just!data software. I couldn't convince it to correctly restore the image. As you state, it will copy the ISO file to a single *BIG* file on the CD, but it won't restore the image. The EZ_somethingorother software which came with the HP in our office works fine, but I don't know of a place to download it. (Obviously they're trying to sell CD-RW drives, not give away software.) Perhaps someone knows of a shareware or free writing tool. I doubt rawwrite is going to work. MB
[newbie] How-to have Multiple distros on one hard drive
Hi all, I just got a machine with a 40 GB drive. For various reasons I would like to try and setup Windows (I know, I know - I need it for work..), Mandrake and another linux distro - possibly suse, or have a second mandrake install for playing around with new stuff, yet maintain a stable install. I have plenty enough disk for this, and have setup a dual-boot windows/mandrake system before. But, I'm not sure about approaching this - the threads I read today about what you can and can't have below the 1024 cylinder got me thinking. For this, would I need 2 \boot partitons ? Is that possible ? Or just the one for lilo and then just partition the heck out of the machine ? help ! thx, phil
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
The Russells wrote: First, a little background. I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?! command prompt?!) You don't have a bios on Apple computers? (No, seriously, you don't?) First problem: LILO. Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive in BIOS to boot my Linux drive. When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive. I'd love to be able to make a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up. I attempted to reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting something. I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first. Any ideas/suggestions? Wow! That would be a pain in the butt! I'm not sure if lilo can boot from the second hard disk, it may need to be on the primary. You could try the following configuration to see if it works. Edit your /etc/lilo.conf file (as root) to look like this: boot=/dev/hdb map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=50 vga=normal default=linux (or windows, whichever one you want to boot automatically) keytable=/boot/us.klt message=/boot/message image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hdb3 append="" read-only other=/dev/hda label=windows table=/dev/hda When you are done, save and exit then run the command 'lilo' without the quotes from the command line (open a terminal window or leave your GUI). Reboot and see what happens. Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake install. Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy. It's definitely not. I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was under the impression that it was supported by Linux. It is a Rockwell ACF II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language). Today I read something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by Linux. Was I misled? Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem webpage? I used to have a modem-for-linux web page written down somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Sheesh. I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here. Bear with me. Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"! Thanks, Kathleen Have fun! Mike -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] in second stage install problem
Hello there, I try to install Madrake 7.0 on my P100 32Mb Ram. Seems to start ok but then I have this message: message begin in second stage install _X11ransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 _X11ransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Sun Apr 16 15:04:05 2000 Gtk - WARNING: Cannot open display :0 at /usr/bin/per l-install/my_gtk.pm line 139 install exited abnormally Sending termination signals ... done Sending kill signals ... done unmounting filesystems ... /tmp/rhimg /proc You may safely reboot your system. message end So what' s wrong ? Is this a video card problem ? (Ati xpert 8Mb PCI) or a monitor problem (AOC 4N) ? Have a good day Francois
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
First problem: LILO. Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive in BIOS to boot my Linux drive. When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive. I'd love to be able to make a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up. I attempted to reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting something. I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first. Any ideas/suggestions? Where did you install LILO? I have my system set up the same way (Windows on the primary, Linux on the slave) and I have no problems dual booting. LILO should be installed on the primary drive, in the Master Boot Record. If that's the problem, you can change with linuxconf. Type "linuxconf" as root, and then go to "Boot Mode". Set the LILO location to /dev/hda and that should fix it. Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake install. Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy. It's definitely not. I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was under the impression that it was supported by Linux. It is a Rockwell ACF II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language). Today I read something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by Linux. Was I misled? Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem webpage? I'm not sure what's wrong with your modem, but the web page you want is http://linmodems.org/ Sheesh. I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here. Bear with me. Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"! Don't worry about it. We were all newbies at one time. : ) Thanks, Kathleen -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
The Russells wrote: First, a little background. I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?! command prompt?!) and Michael responded: You don't have a bios on Apple computers? (No, seriously, you don't?) Nope. I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing. In a way a person has less control while using a Mac. But a perosn can allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool. And resetting the PRAM--now that's fun! Once a Mac geek, always a Mac geek, Kathleen
Re: [newbie] in second stage install problem
well, i can tell you that it is a problem with X. i had the same problem, but it was caused by another problem (mainly my hdd becoming read only). but i don't know how to fix it. sorry man. From: Francois Massin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] in second stage install problem Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:08:15 -0400 Hello there, I try to install Madrake 7.0 on my P100 32Mb Ram. Seems to start ok but then I have this message: message begin in second stage install _X11ransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 _X11ransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Sun Apr 16 15:04:05 2000 Gtk - WARNING: Cannot open display :0 at /usr/bin/per l-install/my_gtk.pm line 139 install exited abnormally Sending termination signals ... done Sending kill signals ... done unmounting filesystems ... /tmp/rhimg /proc You may safely reboot your system. message end So what' s wrong ? Is this a video card problem ? (Ati xpert 8Mb PCI) or a monitor problem (AOC 4N) ? Have a good day Francois Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Internet problems
I have hooked up my Linux (Red Hat 6.1) to the DSL I am running Ip Masqurading on the system and it is routing to the internet for the other 4 systems. The strange thing is I am unable to astablish a connection to some web sites that use security. Or various other sites. If I connect it directly to the 98 or NT machine I can hit them fine with no problems. What am I missing. Tom HTriumph 59564 Corvair65 Corvair
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
I'll have to keep you in mind; I'm planning to buy an iMac this summer and I don't have a clue how to run one! Have you tried the lilo fix yet? I'm curious to see if it works! Mike The Russells wrote: The Russells wrote: First, a little background. I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?! command prompt?!) and Michael responded: You don't have a bios on Apple computers? (No, seriously, you don't?) Nope. I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing. In a way a person has less control while using a Mac. But a perosn can allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool. And resetting the PRAM--now that's fun! Once a Mac geek, always a Mac geek, Kathleen -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
Michael Holt wrote: I'll have to keep you in mind; I'm planning to buy an iMac this summer and I don't have a clue how to run one! Have you tried the lilo fix yet? I'm curious to see if it works! Mike The Russells wrote: The Russells wrote: First, a little background. I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?! command prompt?!) and Michael responded: You don't have a bios on Apple computers? (No, seriously, you don't?) Nope. I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing. In a way a person has less control while using a Mac. But a perosn can allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool. And resetting the PRAM--now that's fun! Once a Mac geek, always a Mac geek, Kathleen -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
Yup, I tried it. I ran "lilo" at the command prompt after I saved it and it told me /dev/hdb is not a regular file. Maybe this is a good excuse to get a whole new and different box?! Any excuse, any at all... An iMac, eh? Cool. Mine is grape and is quite neglected since this Linux thing came around. Thanks, Kathleen
Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
How about switching your drives? If you make Linux /dev/hda and Windows /dev/hdb (make Linux your primary master and put windows on your primary slave). You shouldn't have to change too much, just the jumpers on your Windows drive. I would like to say that I have two drives. On the first (20GB) I've got WinNT, Win98 and finally, Mandrake Linux. On the second (13GB), I have extra storage space for FAT32 and Linux. This works great for me, I've never lost any data. Mike The Russells wrote: Yup, I tried it. I ran "lilo" at the command prompt after I saved it and it told me /dev/hdb is not a regular file. Maybe this is a good excuse to get a whole new and different box?! Any excuse, any at all... An iMac, eh? Cool. Mine is grape and is quite neglected since this Linux thing came around. Thanks, Kathleen -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
