Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

In a message dated 5/28/2000 12:39:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hugh why not simply us XFdrake ?  

Didn't know I could.  I know that I have a lot to learn, and this is the 
position many others are going to be in as they get fed-up with windows.  One 
tries what one can until they learn better.  Thanks for showing me this one.  
-Gary-




Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

As I have mentioned elsewhere in newbie, I have just installed a couple 
of other "flavors" of Linux.  It helps one appreciate Linux-Mandrake.  One 
can begin doing things more quickly with what Mandrake has put on the 
desktop.  
I suggest, have RPMDrake ask if you want a desktop icon created during 
install of RPMs, especially for such major programs as Word Perfect or Star 
Office.  Supply easy to find (that is, easy for a disoriented beginner) 
information about adding and removing desktop icons.  The sooner one can be 
productive the more pleased with Mandrake they are likely to be.  
An excellent feature, for instance, is RPMDrake.  But a little 
improvement would help some people.  When I have used it, I have occasionally 
gotten an "install failed" message, followed by an "OK" box.  This is not 
helpful.  A useful message would be good, perhaps naming an error-log file.  
The RPM program is removed from the list of 
RPMs not yet installed (and not replaced), so trying to install it again is 
involved when it ought to be simple.  I have (re)installed Mandrake many 
times (it gives a known starting place for traceing problems) and I think I 
was rushing through the RPM installs: it hadn't completed one install and I 
was feeding it the next, and it choked, a mistake a rank beginner wouldn't 
make.  Usually beginners make mistakes experienced people wouldn't make, and 
trying to think of all of the possibilities (for error trapping) is the 
problem.  

Build on your strenth(s),
address your weaknesses,
Live long and prosper (?)
-Gary Prichard-




Re: [newbie] Pauls proposed website

2000-06-02 Thread Glyn Millington

On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 07:00:24PM +0200, thus spake Denis HAVLIK:
 
 Should save his strength and help mandrakeuser.org instead of setting up
 Yet Another Tips Site, and loosing interest after a few weeks.
 

Indeed - mandrakeuser.org is marvellous and should be slapped
onto the cd at release time IMHO!

By the way, may I borrow your signature

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Re: McMillan monopoly [was [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.]

2000-06-02 Thread Glyn Millington



Just checking - have I got this right?  Macmillan have exclusive
rights?  

Does that mean no more Cheapbytes CDs in the United Kingdom, for
example?  If that's the case I'll have to migrate to Debian!

PLEASE tell me I'm wrong

in suspense

Glyn M.




On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 03:16:40PM +0200, thus spake Denis HAVLIK:
 :~Hi Denis
 :~ I thank heavens that I live in Finland and still have a choice from whom I
 :~can buy Mandrake-Linux! 
 
 I am not so sure. I think McMillan is not allowed to mess around in Europa
 anymore .-) But it will be basically the same package now AFAIK. 
 
 cheers
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Re: [newbie] The Deadly Black Screen at KDE

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

Sounds like you were in the middle of changing video modes.  Assuming 
that you did not install something new that corrupted settings (I had a 
problem with this for X windows itself) did you test the video desktop (video 
screen) settings KDE was trying to open?  -Gary-

5/28  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Romanator) wrote:

Does any one know why the screen goes completely black with sporadic
flashes just before KDE was to start up? Here's' what happened:

(snip)
5. When it came to the time where KDE was to start up, the screen went
black with sporadic flashes of color. I could only use CNTRL-ALT-DEL(I'm
familiar with the 3 keys) to stop this, so I reinstalled.
(snip)




Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION POINTS:

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

The install routine should give basic info such as how many partitions ( 
of what names) the install will create and that one is very unlikely to get 
the exact size they specify for any user-created partitions due to the way 
hard drives allocate space (i.e. the hard drive will determine the exact 
size, but that one can go back and jiggle the numbers before writing the 
partitions.  
For the first time I have installed some different "flavors" of Linux.  
This is a good idea, it helps one appreciate how good Mandrake is.  One has 
to search the CD documents to know what is going to be done, or has been done 
about something when there is no information in the install about a topic, as 
is often the case (Caldera puts LILO at the head of the partition rather than 
in the MBR without ever telling you  in the install, but the intro to KDE 
within KDE is a nice idea).  Everyone presumes information that needs to be 
explicit for a newbie.  AND it is very inconvenient to try to find the answer 
to a question while in the middle of an install when one suddenly discoveres 
that one needs to know something.  Yet I know that you also need to provide 
"up front" information that someone more experienced would need, without 
troubling them with all the newbie stuff.  That's why I have suggested a 
"more info" button, but I would like to suggest that it be tied to the on 
disc info.  I know trying to run an HTML browser from within the install is 
very likely impractical.  At any rate, help info should be a "help" directory 
on the CD with information by topic, one file for each specific topic so that 
you can go to just where your question is going to be answered with a minimum 
of effort.  Maybe with an overview of the whole process  links to the 
individual subjects for people needing details.
-Gary Prichard-


On 5/27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralph F. De Witt) wrote:

For the next release I would like to the install partioning routines improved
so thaat it will take the users desired size and create it.  In my case it 
keep
insisting in creating smaller partion then I wanted, the result was that I
could not load all the modules I wanted in my system. And this wiith over 20
gigs on the hard drive.

   
 
 CDRW
 -
 Is there anyway you can facilitate a user being able to run these rather 
than
 root.
 
 Also when I use the CDRW as a backup and then do a reinstall, everything I
 copy over is write protected. Is there a way to facilitate mass conversion 
to
 write mode without using the command line to achieve this.

Would like to see this also.

Would like to see the latest version of Xfree version 4.o supportted. Would
like to see more 3d support for various cards.
 
 Cut and Paste:
 --
 Have finally learnt how to do this with the 3rd mouse key but agree this 
seems
 to be an issue. The reasonably universal Ctl  X, C and V would be nice as
 Windows was not the only operating system to have this either. It appears to
 be reasonably common.
 
 TGZ File
 --
 The idea of right clicking on a tar.gz file and then selecting extract would
 be well received.
 
 Star Office
 ---
 This program will undoubtedly take a prime seat on a very good portion of
 Linux work stations. Is there any chance that its initial installation can 
be
 made a little easier as when I was using SuSE it installed a Star Office 
icon
 on the desktop which made the final user installation just a click away 
rather
 than opening the the Krpm to find out what directory the install program 
sits.

Would also like to see the above three items happpen as well as seeing Star
Office 5.2 included.

Would also like to the full KDE 2.0 supported inclulding the Office suite.
 
 Good Points
 =
 I like how mandrake comes ready for almost anything right out of the box, no
 compiling the kernel or tweaking lili.
 
 I like the icon layout on the desktop, very handy.
 
 I like the supermount not that I am used to it.
 
 I like the MP3 support supplied.
 
 I like the CDROM burner support provided.
 
 The install program is smooth, well done.

Agree with the above.  Mandrake 7.0 is the best. keep up the good work.  Keep
it simple for those of us coming over from Windows.

Ralph





Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread Joe Perry

 Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.
 
The . tells the system to look in the current directory, it is needed when you 
are trying to execute a program or shell script and your working directory is 
NOT in you path. The PATH environment variable tells the system where to look 
for programs and files on your system. 
Joseph H. Perry
Oracle DBA
Columbus State University
4225 University Ave
Columbus, GA 31907-5645
(706) 568-2063
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Re: [[newbie] Discussion: Changes Found in Mandrake 7.1

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

But people ARE going to download Mandrake (or use free" discs from 
magazines, etc.) and if they have trouble they will summarily dismiss 
Mandrake as being "no good" when a retail package might have or be just what 
they need.  You have to make the new version slick enough to protect people 
from their own ignorance (i.e. from themselves).  
-Gary Prichard-




Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Security

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

I agree with Joseph S. Gardner's comment (below).  A firewall as part of 
the initial installation of Linux-Mandrake (even for a newbie) is a good 
idea.  Some people will have cable modems and other things that are on all 
the time and thus have a need for a firewall before they know it or know 
enough to try to put one in.
-Gary-


Anthony Huereca wrote:

 I don't have M7.0 yet, but I like the idea of the different security zones. 
One
 of the main complaints I've heard on this mailing list is lack of 
desciption of
 what the different zones actually do. So tell the user what exactly is
 happening when you select a certain level. Or maybe, have like a checklist,
 where the user can pick and choose what exactly they want to do. That would 
be
 cool. Keep it simple (like 5 levels) for the avearage person, but let the
 expert pick and choose.

 And include some sample firewalls or something like that. Somethign that
 would be useful to the average Dial-up (or cable modem in my case) person, 
who
 doesn't need a lot of exceptions like for a FTP or web server,  but just 
needs a
 good regular firewall.  That way the user doesn't have to figure out all the
 ipchaining rules and stuff; which at the moment totally loses me everytime I
 try to read through the how-to. Of course, maybe it's not a good security 
idea
 for a "one-size-fits-most" firewall, but it's just a thought I had.

 --
 Anthony Huereca
 http://m3000.1wh.com
 Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.

A newbie firewall.  Now THAT'S a great idea.


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[newbie] Command Execution

2000-06-02 Thread Barry Winch

Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.

If I am in the directory where the programme resides and type the programme
name, I get a:
"bash: programme name: command not found" message

If, from the same directory I type ./programme name everything works as
advertised.

Thanks

Barry





Re: [newbie] Acrobat reader from Adobe's site

2000-06-02 Thread Philip Gabbert


I would try and redownload and reinstall Acrobat Reader .. I myself installed the
version from Acrobat's site and had no trouble at all.

-- philip

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 When I try to read a PDF file using Acrobat reader, I get segfaults and this
 error message:

 Exited with error code: 0x400e0009.

 Anyone know why this happens? I'm using Mandrake 7.0.

 Thanks,

 L

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Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness]

2000-06-02 Thread David Oddie

On Wed, 31 May 2000 18:29:24 +0100, you wrote:

I have exactly the same problem.  If I access the Internet using KPPP , I
subsequently cannot activate any programme on my desktop or elswhere.  I cannot
even activate my browser (Netscape 4.73).  In order to use the browser, I have to
activate it before I activate KPPP.

I just had this problem and fixed it buy un-ticking an option in kppp
setup.

I had kppp configured with the correct DNS addresses for the
nameservers of the ISP's I use.

Every time I established a connection via kppp none of the "internet
aware" desktop applications would work.  Netscape, the KDE file manger
or kmail etc.

It turns out there is a tick box on the kppp setup screen that is to
do with hostnames, down the bottom left of one of the screens.  Can't
remember what it is called exactly as I am at work on Windows at the
moment.

Anyway if it is set, try un-ticking the box.  With it ticked I think
your pc assumes the name of the ISP (or something like that) which
means it is talking to itself and does not work.

HTH

Dave




Re: [newbie] Re-partitioning the hard disk

2000-06-02 Thread Wayne Petherick

Playing devils advocate her but when I originally installed MDK, I let
diskdrake do the work and it worked like a charm.  Even did a fresh
install of windows after my last linux reinstall and everyting went sweet.

Sorry!

Wayne

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, bascule wrote:

 i second that, diskdrake really messed up my disk after i decided to let
 it do the job instead of pm, went back to pm and had no problems
 
 bascule
 
 Ron Peake wrote:
  
  Hi Dick
  
  I have experienced the same problem and in my case it resulted from letting
  Mandrake's Diskdrake 'fiddle' with the partitions created by Partition Magic.
  The only solution that I found was to let Nortons DiskDoctor fix the partition
  tables, then resize the partitions again using Partition Magic 4,01.
  
  Mandrake Sofware suggested in January or February of this year to use a later
  version of their Diskdrake program instead of the one which was in release 7,0.
  But in my PC, there was no improvement.
  So from my experience, Mandrake's program is still unable to
  alter vfat or even linux partitions safely, in a way which allows other
  operating systems such as DOS/Windows to also use them.
  
  Ron
 
 





[newbie] Changing partition type

2000-06-02 Thread Wayne Petherick

I recently purchased Corel WPO2K and think it is great.  It comes with the
latest version of Corel Linux with it and I was wanting to install this to
a spare 3GB partition I have currently allocated to Windows.  I ghave
partition magic 5 and so changing the partition is easy.  Last time I did
this without telling Linux it failed to boot owing to an unrecognised
partition or something similar and would like to know if I need to change
the type in my fstab so it will boot correctly if I change my 3GB to ext2
before booting back into mandrake.  Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Wayne




Re: [newbie] high security server and ftp and telnet

2000-06-02 Thread Vic

Well what if someone is so p*ssed off that they are
smashing things because they don't know what to do
I have done a re-install and I am not ashamed to admit it,
I was smashing things and punching holes in my walls here
because I was so F-ing P**sed off that I could s***,
and I was running out of wallboard.



On Wed, 31 May 2000, flupke wrote:
 rharvey wrote:
  
  I setup a linux box with the server choice and high security.  I finally
  found the place to turn on the web service. http web services are running
  now. The ftp seems to be installed. all the info I have found says its all
  set up but I can't ftp into the server. I need ftp to upload my web pages.
  I also want telnet. It does not work either.  i can ping the server. I can
  go from the server to other computers thru telnet.
 First, make sure you have the telnet-server package installed.
 Then, enable the telnet and ftp servers in /etc/inetd.conf. I think you
 just should uncomment the lines corresponding to the servers.
 After you have done that, I think that it should be ok.
 
 But if you care about security, I think you'd better forget about telnet
 and install ssh instead.
 
  
  Is it the security level?
 maybe the servers are not enabled with the high-security level (this
 would not be surprizing. And even rather normal. telnet is NOT
 secure!!!)
 
  do i need to re-install and set the secutity level down?
 Even if you decide to change the security level, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO
 REINSTALL LINUX! In fact, in theory, YOU NEVER HAVE TO REINSTALL
 LINUX Everybody should be aware of that. I see too often people
 saying "It didn't work so I reinstalled". Sorry, but that is NOT the
 solution. We are here in a unix environnement. Forget about the BAD BAD
 EVIL habits you had with Mikr0$oft.
 (sorry for the shouting, but I really want to focus everybody's
 attention about this point)
 
 The security levels are handled by the msec package. Read the files in
 /usr/doc/msecversion/ for details about security levels and how to
 change it.
 
  How do I get access to the services.. ( I do not have the gui auto loading.
  i can startx but i can't get any of the gui's to run..kde...gnome..ect...)
 To access a graphical login from a root command prompt, type "init 5".
 To automatically load the GUI login screen at startup, change the line
   id:3:initdefault:
 to
   id:5:initdefault:
 in your /etc/inittab file.
 
 No window manager comes when you start X because (I think that) they are
 not installed in the server installation. Install them from the mdk CD.
 
  so I guess any info sent on how to fix this will have to be no-gui commands.
 Not anymore... :-)
 
  
  thanks in advance
  Robert
 
 HTH
 Flupke




Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread Wayne Petherick

Barry,
in command line terms the . is the functional equivalent of "this
directory".  The / means the root or main directory off of that
indicated.  So in effect the ./means the root of the current
directory.  IN simple terms, it means the directory you are in!  The
reason you do this is because the program you are executing is not
identified as being in the path so you have to rely on your command line
arguments to tell the computer where the program you are executing
resides.

Cheers,

Wayne




[newbie] can't install staroffice as user either

2000-06-02 Thread Vic

I tryed installing star office as user can't do it

can't run star office as user if install as root

what do I do?




Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION

2000-06-02 Thread GAPrichard

Let me be clear, I'm not complaining, rather I'm using my experiences and 
expectations to make a point.

Poor support makes Mandrake look bad.  I have been trying to get a sound 
configuration failure solved over two weeks and find Linuxcare to be nearly 
useless.  They assume no reply in 48 hours means the problem is solved.  
Well, I'm learning Linux in my "spare time", let alone that I don't get to my 
mail that consistently.  But the real problem seems to be that when I e-mail 
a reply to their proposed solution, referencing their incident number 
(usually in the subject line), I am assigned a new number each time.  [I do 
not reply on-line as they apparently expect]  [Are they billing based on the 
number of incidents solved?]  My "reply" apparently goes to a new support 
person each time.  With the most recent proposed solution the support person 
asked what product I had, even though I had refered to three other incident 
numbers [which contained all of the product, equipment  advise information] 
as being the same unsolved issue -- (typically?) the support person was too 
rushed to review the matter, too rushed to be useful!  Chunking support 
incidents like this obviously doesn't work.  When one problem takes so long 
to solve, and is handled so poorly, it makes Mandrake look bad.
Support should also be for everything supplied in the retail package, not 
just the basic system install (Linuxcare support said my problem with Word 
Perfect and Star Office corrupting X windows was beyond the scope of the 
support supplied by Mandrake-followed by an ad for paid support).  [Given the 
support I have experienced I certainly don't want to purchase support from 
them.]  I bought Mandrake because I wanted to accomplish something, I was not 
buying "a new life" trying to make this work.  Since these programs were both 
mentioned as "features" on the box (and both enclosed) it seems reasonable 
that if I have a problem getting them set up support for that should be 
included.
-Gary Prichard-




[newbie] Shockwave -- OT ? Sorry

2000-06-02 Thread Vic

Hey out there everybody, just wondering if
there is anyone out there who knows about shockwave
and their inability to make linux software, well excepting
flash, but I already have flash I just want to 
see if we can rock the boat a little (in the nicest way
possible) with them so they will consider writing 
the interactive shockwave for linux?

Anyone with me?

My apologies if this is too off topic if so,
please lets all do private group e mail and
discuss it there.

Thanx




Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Barrywhen you type a command at the prompt a search is
made using your 'path'.  If the program is not found in the
'path' you get the command not found error.  The current
directory is not scanned unless it is actually in your 'path',
so if it is not you need to tell 'bash' that the program you
want to execute is in the current directory by prepending the
./ characters (a single dot means current directory, the / is
a seperator).

Alan 



Barry Winch wrote:
 
 Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.
 
 If I am in the directory where the programme resides and type the programme
 name, I get a:
 "bash: programme name: command not found" message
 
 If, from the same directory I type ./programme name everything works as
 advertised.
 
 Thanks
 
 Barry




Re: [newbie] quick kernel question

2000-06-02 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Billlook in the /boot directory.

Alan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 Quick question:
 I need to know exactly what kernel is in LM 6.0 and 6.1.
 
 Thanks,
 BG




RE: [newbie] Problem updating xemacs

2000-06-02 Thread dickon1

Hi

I was surprised to read that installing xemcas caused problems. i used the 
Mandrake Updates facility and it downloaded the files and installed then 
automatically. Works just perfect and yes, xemcas is great although i still 
prefer the non-gui version.

Dick




[newbie]Plug-in for .mov

2000-06-02 Thread Jose Manuel Llorens Montolio


I want to run in my Netscape 4.70 a .mov film, but I don't find any
plug-in for Linux in Internet. 

I have found an application called Wine to simulate Windows 3.1, I want
to know if somebody has tested it.

Thanx.
Jose.


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Re: [newbie] Administration Question

2000-06-02 Thread flupke

I think the best way to make what you want would be to create a new
group dedicated to the files shared by fred and tom. Lets call it
fredandtom (groupadd fredandtom).
Make Both fred and tom member of this new group (by adding "fred,tom" to
the entry fredandtom in the /etc/group file).
Then make the fredandtom group the owner of /home/shared (chgrp
fredandtom /home/shared). From now on, the files in /home/shared whose
group is fredandtom and are group writable (chmod g+w file) will be
accessible to both tom and fred. But the files whose group is fred or
tom will be only accessible to respectively fred or tom.

HTH
Flupke

John Rye wrote:
 
 I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom'
 
 I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text).
 
 Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames.
 
 How should I go about this?
 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have
 access to 'fred's files.
 
 I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar
 in which these two users can drop the exchange files.
 
 As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group
 the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her
 directory. That is not an option in this case..
 
 Suggestions are most welcome.
 
 Cheers.
 
 John
 
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Re: [newbie] LILO boot time

2000-06-02 Thread flupke

You changed your /etc/lilo.conf, but did you execute /sbin/lilo after
that?

HTH
Flupke

Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
 
 Hi again,
 
 I have got Linux installed on hda1 after ditching Windoze a couple of months
 ago now.  When at the lilo prompt I have to wait 5 seconds for it to boot the
 kernal or press enter for instant booting.
 
 I know it is petty but how can I configure lilo to boot Linux instantly with
 out the prompt.  I have looked into  /etc/lilo.config  and messed about
 with the timeout option but it has no effect.  Therefore the waiting time
 command must be within another file but where?
 
 As I said it is a petty issue but it has become a bit of an obsession with me
 now.
 --
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 Blackburn
 England
 
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 Everyday something is aquired--
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Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread flupke

When you ask your shell to execute a command without telling him where
it is, it looks for it in the directories specified in the $PATH
variable ("echo $PATH" to see it).

When you specify a directory (here : the . directory [=the current
directory]), it will search the command in the specified directory.

NB : If you don't want to be annoyed by that, you can add the ./
directory in the $PATH environnement variable. (PATH=$PATH:./)

As simple as that.

HTH
Flupke

Barry Winch wrote:
 
 Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.
 
 If I am in the directory where the programme resides and type the programme
 name, I get a:
 "bash: programme name: command not found" message
 
 If, from the same directory I type ./programme name everything works as
 advertised.
 
 Thanks
 
 Barry




Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread Jim Brown


When you type in a program to be executed, bash will search for the
programs based on what's in your PATH environmental variable.
If you don't have "./" in your PATH, it won't look there
for the program.  Just add "./" to your PATH in .bash_profile, it will fix
the problem.  It's a matter of taste whether you want it to look in
the current dir or not I guess.

Someting like:

vi .bash_profile
/PATH
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:./


Barry Winch wrote:

 Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.

 If I am in the directory where the programme resides and type the programme
 name, I get a:
 "bash: programme name: command not found" message

 If, from the same directory I type ./programme name everything works as
 advertised.

 Thanks

 Barry

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Re: [newbie] Shared exclusive access

2000-06-02 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

John Rye wrote:

 I suspect I may have blundered in posting a message whose
 Subject line was: "Administration Question" ??? Reserved word ???

 So
 Hi All
 I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom'

 I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text).

 Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames.

 How should I go about this?
 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have
 access to 'fred's files.

 I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar
 in which these two users can drop the exchange files.

 As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group
 the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her
 directory. That is not an option in this case..

 Suggestions are most welcome.

 Cheers.

 John


Simply create a new group and make both users a member of this group.  You
can now create a new directory simpilar to what you proposed (perhaps
/home/doc/shared) and make the owner of that dir. root and give the
"shared" group read/write access.


--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
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No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

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[newbie] setting MANPATH when launching GNOME

2000-06-02 Thread laurent . duperval

Hi,

I start my laptop with GNOME. My default shell is /bin/tcsh. In my .login, I
set a number of variables, including MANPATH. What happens is that my
personal MANPATH is different from the system MANPATH but it doesn't look
like it's set. Why do I say that? I use tkman as a manpage reader. When I
launch it from the GNOME panel, it fails to start saying that there is no
MANPATH set. So how come it's not set if my .login has that? Where am I
suppposed to configure this?

Thanks,

L

-- 
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U|Force - Java Center and we who are here have failed it."
Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228   -Doug Camilli
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[newbie] Setting Domain Name properly

2000-06-02 Thread laurent . duperval

Hi,

How do I set my domain name properly so that I don't have to type the FQDN
of a machine to reach it in my domain? Right now, if I do:

ping ahost

it doesn't work. But doing

ping ahost.mydomain.com

works fine. Any ideas?

T'anks,

L

-- 
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U|Force - Java Center and we who are here have failed it."
Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228   -Doug Camilli
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Re: [newbie] XFree86 v4.0

2000-06-02 Thread laurent . duperval

On  1 Jun, wayne petherick wrote:
 I am looking at upgrading to XF86 v4.0 and was wondering a few things.
 First of all, is this release stable yet, and second, there are a few
 version for Linux iX86 systems.
 
 Linux-alpha-glibc21/17-Mar-2000 09:55  
 Linux-ix86-glibc20/ 17-Mar-2000 23:25
 Linux-ix86-glibc21/ 26-Apr-2000 03:44
 Linux-ix86-libc5/  
 
 This is pasted from the XF homepage and I was wondering which one I need.
 I am running MDK7.0 on an Athlon 550 with the same kernel version that came
 with the distro.  Any help would be appreciated.
 

Also, does it support these fancy mice with a little wheel in the middle to
scroll HTML docs in Netscape?

L

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Re: [newbie] What happend to Print Screen?

2000-06-02 Thread laurent . duperval

On 31 May, Romanator wrote:
 Thanks Paul
 
 I will check it out.
 

xv does that also. And it'll happily save JPG's.

L

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Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - New Tool

2000-06-02 Thread Marc

Here are some documents that might help you out. Hope it helps allthough I
have not followed this discussion. This is as close as you will get to real
easy compiling
http://www.pcworld.com/heres_how/article/0,1400,13702,00.html
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/compiling/kernelcomp.html



- Original Message -
From: "Roman Bysh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - New Tool


| How about a compile wizard or is that asking for too much?
|
| Roman
|
|
| Dacia and AzureRose wrote:
| 
|  That would be s cool!
| 
|  Dacia
|  --- "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|   Denis,
|  
|   I'd like to see a tool to assist in the compiling of
|   a new kernel and then
|   INSTALL it!
|  
|  
|   --
|   Joseph S. Gardner
|   Handi Krafts
|   www.handi-krafts.com
|   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  
|   Linux is like a wigwam...
|   No windows, no gates.
|   Apache inside
|  
|   Registered linux user #1696600
|   ICQ #63389227
|  
|  
| 
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[newbie] mail problem (can't Send or Receive)

2000-06-02 Thread Juvenal




this is the internal mail, i dont' really care 
to configure it to the outside world, just to the people that use my 
system.
i guess i changed some file or other when i was 
setting up my adsl, because when i first installed it a few months 
ago
it was working fine. but not sure what file was 
changed.
this is the error i get

May 29 18:15:25 localhost postfix/smtpd[749]: 
connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]May 29 18:15:25 localhost 
postfix/smtpd[749]: 7FD3234A05: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]May 29 18:15:25 
localhost postfix/smtpd[749]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]May 29 
18:15:25 localhost postfix/pickup[609]: C32FA410AB: uid=0 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]May 
29 18:15:25 localhost postfix/cleanup[750]: C32FA410AB: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]May 
29 18:15:25 localhost postfix/qmgr[611]: C32FA410AB: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=594 (queue active)May 29 18:15:26 localhost postfix/local[752]: fatal: 
open database /etc/postfix/aliases.db: No such file or directoryMay 29 
18:15:27 localhost postfix/qmgr[611]: warning: mail_scan_any: got EOF; expected: 
stringMay 29 18:15:27 localhost postfix/qmgr[611]: warning: private/local: 
malformed responseMay 29 18:15:27 localhost postfix/master[602]: warning: 
process /usr/lib/postfix/local pid 752 exit status 1May 29 18:15:27 
localhost postfix/master[602]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/local: bad command 
startup -- throttling
that's when i try to mail myself (as root) an 
email


Re: [newbie] Realplayer Mime entry glitch and kde errormessageswhen logging on as user

2000-06-02 Thread Jim

Mine did all that automatically.


- Original Message -
From: "Roman Bysh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Trevor Reynolds" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Realplayer Mime entry glitch and kde errormessageswhen
logging on as user


Trevor,

Thanks for pointing this out. It was driving me crazy. Do you know how
to create and point to Real Player while in usr? The trouble started
after I selecting New-Application and pointed the .kde.lnk to realplay.
However, I think I should have used Mime type.kdelnk. Do you know the
exact command? I have installed the Real Player rpm as 'root', and I
would like to add a link to my /home/roman/Desktop. The manual is not
very clear about this.

Thanks,

Roman

Trevor Reynolds wrote:

 Roman,
 I had the same problem and I fixed it by deleting all the
offending
 entries in the /home/[user name]/.kde/share/applink and /home/[user
 name]/.kde/share/mimelnk/(and all folders within).  It took a couple of
 restarts to get rid of all the buggers but it works fine now.
 I hope that helps.

 Trevor

 Jim wrote:
 
  I had the same problem, but I was logged in as a user. I installed it as
  root and it works fine
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: "Charles A Edwards" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 7:37 AM
  Subject: [newbie] Realplayer Mime entry glitch and kde error messages
when
  logging on as user
 
  Charles,
 
  Did you download Real player 7.0? During the installation, I was getting
  an error message:
 
  Error
  User pgodman does not exist - using root
  group pgodman does not exist - using root
 
  I clicked on the OK button and the installation completed. Every thing
  in 'root' works well.
  Now, when I log in as roman as 'user', I get all sorts of messages when
  the virtual desktop appears.
 
  Example:
 
  /home/roman/.kde/share/mimelnk/audio/x-pn -realaudio.kdelnk
  does not contain a Mime type:...entry
 
  This is followed by several other errors - and I must click on the OK
  button about a dozen times.
 
  I think there is a file containing these messages, maybe a config file?
  I would like to edit it. But, at least, there must be a way to stop the
  kde error messages. I cannot get rid of the messages, and I do not want
  to reinstall again.
 
  Help...
 
  Roman
  PS. By the way, what is the direct support line by email?






Re: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.

2000-06-02 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Denisagreed.

Alan


Denis HAVLIK wrote:
 
 On 31 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 :~ :~It will still be confusing to many folks if, like they did
 :~ :~with 6.1, MacMillan decides to market 7.1 as 7.5!!  Their
 :~ :~excuse was that more people will purchase an upgrade sequenced
 :~ :~by .5 than would have bought it sequenced if sequenced by only
 :~ :~.1.  Sheesh!!
 :~
 :~ AFAIK this is not allowed by our new contract. And there will
 :~ be only one
 :~ pack in english-speaking countries - from McMillan.
 :~
 :~...and this was a decision that was met with ease by both parties.
 :~
 :~I sense some definite hostility towards Macmillan on this thread.  I'd like to 
publicly say it is a very successful and positive partnership between the two 
companies.
 :~
 
 Actually, the bigest problems we had were exactly 6.1 - 6.5 like
 stuff. Following both packaging schema we used and the one McMillan used
 was a big headache for all (at least for me). And having two products
 from the same company (Mandrakesoft), allmost the same thing inside, but
 sold under two names and by two different companies
 (Mandrakesoft-MacMillan) is complete nonsence.
 
 New deal sounds much better to me.
 
 cu
 Denis
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Re: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.

2000-06-02 Thread Alan Shoemaker

SirI have purchased three different MacMillan packages
over the last year and a half.  I, in point of fact, have been
very happy with each one of them, and have recommended their
purchase to others.  This is certainly not hostile. 

The only possible hint of hostility that comes from me is my
dislike for your response to my earlier comments where through
your response to them (my comments) you alleged that I said
things that I didn't.  I was and still am unhappy about that.

The only thing I said prior to your messages that could be
construed as hostile was the 'sheesh' after describing the
MacMillan marketing strategy for the release of 6.1 by putting
a large 6.5 on the box.  

I said, "Their excuse was that more people will purchase an
upgrade sequenced by .5 than would have bought it if sequenced
by only .1".  It was meant to be snide, but certainly not
hostile.

Why was I snide?  Because that marketing tactic was insulting
and suggested to me that someone at MacMillan didn't think
that their customers were very bright.  I was sincerely hoping
that MacMillan wouldn't be using it again.  I guess you're not
and I'm glad of that.

Alan Shoemaker


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:21 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.
 
 
  :~It will still be confusing to many folks if, like they did
  :~with 6.1, MacMillan decides to market 7.1 as 7.5!!  Their
  :~excuse was that more people will purchase an upgrade sequenced
  :~by .5 than would have bought it sequenced if sequenced by only
  :~.1.  Sheesh!!
 
  AFAIK this is not allowed by our new contract. And there will
  be only one
  pack in english-speaking countries - from McMillan.
 
 
 ...and this was a decision that was met with ease by both parties.
 
 I sense some definite hostility towards Macmillan on this thread.  I'd like to 
publicly say it is a very successful and positive partnership between the two 
companies.
 
 Thanks,
 BG




[newbie] MPEG Player and Action failure

2000-06-02 Thread Emanuele La Rosa

I noticed that Action can't reproduce well some MPEG film. Nobody knows if there
some MPEG players better than Action that work well like the Windoze mpeg
player? The difference between action and the windows mpeg player is quite
big so i hope an affermative answer




Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - New Tool

2000-06-02 Thread michael

On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote:
 YES
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dacia and AzureRose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - New Tool
 
 
  That would be s cool!
  
  
  Dacia
  --- "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Denis,
   
   I'd like to see a tool to assist in the compiling of
   a new kernel and then
   INSTALL it!
   
   
   --
   AMEN
-- 
 
-michael-




[newbie] Installing Apps in different hd

2000-06-02 Thread Gary

Hi All,

I would like your help, one and all, with the following so that I can
have full enjoyment of my newly installed Mandrake 7.  I am just
really in amazement about Linux, and have come to really think it is
the best thing going.  I also think this distro is outstanding, KDE
graphics looks better than the Mac, and it seems to run very solid.

hda is assigned to windoz 2000 under Fat 32 (yes I forgot about NTFS,
and made the error of trying to install LILO once by trying to install
under BMR which was NTFS - it will not work, causing a complete
reinstall of W2K) So, Fat 32 it is for now.  BIG drawback on W2K.

hdb (my slave drive) is assigned all to Mandrake.  I did the standard
install without changing anything.  LILO works fine in MBR.  All is
well.  Now, I want to install more Apps that I use, such as
WordPerfect or Applexware, etc. - most anything I can get my hands on!
However, the way the default installer laid out my HD, by partition, I
seem to have very little room left in one partition.  My partitions on
hdb are as follows:

/dev/hdb1  7.6 MB total  6 MB free (80%)

/dev/hdb5  1474.6 MB Total  455.6 MB free (30%)

/dev/hdb7  7790.5 MB  Total  and 7381 MB (94%) free

It seems (I think) that Mandrake installed all the initial Apps in
hdb5, so when I install the new Apps as above, or any large programs
(StarOffice or Applex)  how do I install them using RPM Drake to hdb7,
where I have the most free disk space?  Most of my free space is
there.

Would it be easier just to give more disk space to hdb5 by using,
let's say, Partition Magic and expanding that partition to the largest
one?

Help would be appreciated.


-- 
 
Best regards,
 Gary  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Today's thought: You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.






[newbie] Installing Apps in different hd

2000-06-02 Thread Gary

Hi All,

I would like your help, one and all, with the following so that I can
have full enjoyment of my newly installed Mandrake 7.  I am just
really in amazement about Linux, and have come to really think it is
the best thing going.  I also think this distro is outstanding, KDE
graphics looks better than the Mac, and it seems to run very solid.

hda is assigned to windoz 2000 under Fat 32 (yes I forgot about NTFS,
and made the error of trying to install LILO once by trying to install
under BMR which was NTFS - it will not work, causing a complete
reinstall of W2K) So, Fat 32 it is for now.  BIG drawback on W2K.

hdb (my slave drive) is assigned all to Mandrake.  I did the standard
install without changing anything.  LILO works fine in MBR.  All is
well.  Now, I want to install more Apps that I use, such as
WordPerfect or Applexware, etc. - most anything I can get my hands on!
However, the way the default installer laid out my HD, by partition, I
seem to have very little room left in one partition.  My partitions on
hdb are as follows:

/dev/hdb1  7.6 MB total  6 MB free (80%)

/dev/hdb5  1474.6 MB Total  455.6 MB free (30%)

/dev/hdb7  7790.5 MB  Total  and 7381 MB (94%) free

It seems (I think) that Mandrake installed all the initial Apps in
hdb5, so when I install the new Apps as above, or any large programs
(StarOffice or Applex)  how do I install them using RPM Drake to hdb7,
where I have the most free disk space?  Most of my free space is
there.

Would it be easier just to give more disk space to hdb5 by using,
let's say, Partition Magic and expanding that partition to the largest
one?

Help would be appreciated.


-- 
 
Best regards,
 Gary  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Today's thought: You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.






Re: [newbie] re-install

2000-06-02 Thread Eric MC DECLERCK

 rharvey wrote:
 
 If I re- install and I want to install
 everything... what partitions do I
 need and how much space does each of
 them need?  The autoconfigure does not
 know what I want to install so it does
 not set the partitions right
 
 thanks
 Robert
Mine is:
1 prim partition = /boot   32M
1 prim partition = /   600 - 800 M
1 swap partition = +/- 256 M
(max)
1 extended LINUX = ( be carefull, use
the LINUX extended, not the dos ext.)   
/usr+/- 3 G (the big one)
/usr/local  +/- 1 G ( to store own
progs, not destroyed at re-install)
/home   +/- 2G (depends of the nbrs of
users)
/var+/- 600 M
/reserved   rest (for use later)
Eric
-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)




Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread Eric MC DECLERCK

Barry Winch wrote:
 
 Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.
 
 If I am in the directory where the programme resides and type the programme
 name, I get a:
 "bash: programme name: command not found" message
This is because your PATH is not defined
in your bash_profile.
Caution: don't do this for root !
 
 If, from the same directory I type ./programme name everything works as
 advertised.
With ./ you indicate the relative path
of the file to your shell.

 
 Thanks
 
 Barry

An other way to run your file is:
/bin/sh myfilename
Also: chmod +x myfilename.
Also: at the commandline of your file
set: PATH=$PATH:.
If the script is for yoy personnal usage
you can set it in a /home/fred/bin
 dir and adding it to your PATH varable.
Eric
-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)





Re: [newbie] passwd

2000-06-02 Thread Eric MC DECLERCK

"N. Kofi Amu" wrote:
 
 Thank you Anthony for your response. I appreciated the need to repeat the password 
on the
 terminal or in the GUI. What I need is I have over twenty users to setup and I do 
have
 these users names in a database. All I need is to add their passwords and export 
them as
 Tab Deleminated files into the Linux/Unix user file using the READ command.  The only
 thing I need to know is how to assign the PASSWD command in the script.  I cannot 
repeat
 the command twice.  How do I go about it in the script?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Anthony Huereca wrote:
 
  It's put in there twice to make sure you typed in your password right.  It
  would be really bad if you accidently mistyped your password when you created
  it, and had no way of knowing it till you found out you couldn't log in.
 
  On the command line when you type PASSWD username it request for the
   password twice. How could I control that in my script.  It there another way or 
some
   switch that will not let it ask for this the second time?
  
   Thank in advance and keep up to the good work.
  
   Kofi Amu
   Maru a Pula School
   Gaborone
 
  --
  Anthony Huereca
  http://m3000.1wh.com
  Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
The file /etc/passw contains a db about
the useraccounts= 1 line pro user.
Ex.: kofi:cNgghJeqhh:500:4:Kofi
Amu:/home/kofi:/bin/bash
If shadow is utilised see /etc/shadow.
The standard interface of it:
#include sys/types.h
#include pwd.h
struct passw *getpwuid (uid_t uid);
struct passw *getpwnam (const char
*name);
(see header files for more dtails)
Example to extract details from db of
passwords attached.
Eric


-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)

#include sys/types.h
#include pwd.h
#include stdio.h
#include unistd.h

int main()
{
uid_t uid;
gid_t gid;
struct passwd *pw;

uid = getuid();
gid = getgid();

printf("User is %s\n", getlogin());

printf("User IDs: uid=%d, gid=%d\n", uid, gid);

pw = getpwuid(uid);
printf("UID passwd entry:\n name=%s, uid=%d, gid=%d, home=%s, shell=%s\n",
pw-pw_name, pw-pw_uid, pw-pw_gid, pw-pw_dir, pw-pw_shell);

pw = getpwnam("root");
printf("root passwd entry:\n");
printf("name=%s, uid=%d, gid=%d, home=%s, shell=%s\n",
pw-pw_name, pw-pw_uid, pw-pw_gid, pw-pw_dir, pw-pw_shell);
exit(0);
}



Re: [newbie] quick kernel question

2000-06-02 Thread Anthony Huereca

LM 6.0: 2.2.9 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/venusfeat.php3
LM 6.1: 2.2.13pre   http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliosfeat.php3


 Hi there,
 
 Quick question:
 I need to know exactly what kernel is in LM 6.0 and 6.1. 
 
 Thanks,
 BG
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http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install

2000-06-02 Thread Anthony Huereca

I'd have it defaulted to "yes". The expert who doesn't like non-OS programs
will know to check it, whereas the average person who doesn't care about
how free it is probally won't even notice the checkbox. And then they'll be mad
when they boot it up the first time and can't find a browser.

 
 Another suggestion is to have Sun's StarOffice (and maybe Netscape Communicator)
 as checkbuttons too.  Some purists are offended by the idea of having a
 non-open source program in their systems, whereas others want both the free
 speech and the free beer.  Since the default for the checkbutton is "no", this
 could be a nice compromise between the two crowds.
 
 Cheers,
 /J.
-- 
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http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] LS120 Superfloppy

2000-06-02 Thread Marc simard

 
--

On Wed, 31 May 2000 18:57:40   poogle wrote:
Somebody posted a question about setting these up, I sent a reply but can't see
it now - or the original question, if you've still got problems let me know.
ATB


Thanx i sent this message and what you told me to do just worked perfectly :)


Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com




[newbie] Internet

2000-06-02 Thread Jeffrey B. Ferland

Assuming I've got more than one working modem, each on their own phone line, is
their anyway to use then both at once on separate connection?

How on earth does an ISP cram all those calls into one phone number?

I want to change my domain name (it's localhost.localdomian right now. It
should be autocracy.dcci.com - how do I tell the computer that?)

-Jeff
-- 
Don't you use envelopes for your e-mail too? Use PGP for your e-mail!




Re: [newbie] Gnome problem

2000-06-02 Thread Jeffrey B. Ferland

On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote:
 Just installed Mandrake 7, the second time I booted the machine the
 Gnome taskbar is missing. Does anyone
 know how to fix this ?

Use KDE? Odds are that the thing is there, but it's kind of hidden. Move the
mouse along the edges of the screen and see if it pops out.

-Jeff
-- 
Don't you use envelopes for your e-mail too? Use PGP for your e-mail!




Re: [newbie] Administration Question

2000-06-02 Thread Jeffrey B. Ferland

 I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom'
 
 I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text).
 
 Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames.
 
 How should I go about this?
 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have 
 access to 'fred's files.
 
 I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar
 in which these two users can drop the exchange files.
 
 As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group
 the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her
 directory. That is not an option in this case..
 
 Suggestions are most welcome.
 
 Cheers.
 
 John

Put them into the "share" group (or whatevery you wanna call it). Have "root"
own the directory, and "share" have read/write access to that dir. Have them 
only mark "read/write by group" in that folder. That may be a little vague, but
it works..maybe

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Re: [newbie] Install DOS 6.2 Windows98 and Linux-Mandrake 7.0 in same HD

2000-06-02 Thread Jeffrey B. Ferland

On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote:
 Hello!
 
 The installation manuals do not say anything about the "cylinder 1024"
 problem. This is the /boot or /root have to be installed within the
 1024th cylinder.
 I have Windows 98, DOS 6.2 and Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Air Version in my
 13GB Quantum Fireball HD.
 First time I tried to install Mandrake Linux in an empty partition
 (after 9GB Windows partition), I got an error message in LILO
 installation (because /root is after cylinder 1024) and then I was not
 able to boot from HD (Linux and Windows).
 Fortunately there is a "magic" fdisk (DOS) command:
 fdisk /mbr
 that restores the MBR, and then I can boot Windows again from HD. Linux
 only boot from the diskete.
 
 I decided then start from the begining, because I do not have Partition
 Magic.
 I was not shure if I can use the DiskDrake to make a partition resize
 without destroying any data (in DOS partition). Do you know that?
 
 What I did:
 1. I made one DOS FAT16 400MB partition (with dos fdisk) for DOS 6.2
 and I installed it there (dos C: disk)
 2. I made one DOS FAT16 16MB partition (with dos fdisk), without
 installing anything there (dos D: disk)
 3. I made one FAT32 9GB partition (dos E: disk) (with W98 fdisk), and I
 installed Windows98 there.
 6. I made one FAT16 1.5GB partition to put data to be shared by DOS,
 Linux and Windows98
 
 After that I have deleted partion D: and make a new one smaller (6MB. I
 had to make a new one because Windows98 did not boot as disk D: (it has
 to be as disk E: as installed)
 
 The remaining space was for Linux:
 7. I made 128MB swap partion
 8. I made about 1.5GB for /root
 
 Then a got the 1024 error message, and  created a partition after the
 dos D: partition, with 8MB for /boot (within cylinder 1024)
 
 Summary of partitions:
 hda1: DOS C: (400MB) - DOS 6.2
 hda5: DOS D: (6MB)- Without data
 hda9: Linux /boot (8MB)
 hda6: DOS E: (9GB) - Windows 98
 hda7: Linux /swap (128MB)
 hda8: Linux /root (1.5GB)
 
 
 With above configuration LILO was automatically installed without any
 questions or errors, and I can boot from HD to Linux or Windows98. If I
 want to boot to DOS 6.2, I make F8, after boot Windows98 and I choose
 "old DOS option".
 
 Everything seems to work fine, but I am shure that should be a simpler
 solution for that.
 There is on error in /hda5 because Linux can not mount it. I think that
 is a too small partition.
 
 Is there any suggestion to make this job simpler?
 
 Why Linux-Mandrake installation do not ask if we want to install LILO?
 It is not good see our MBR destroyed by a faulty LILO installation.
 
 If I am shure that DiskDrake can make a partion resise without
 destroying dos data, I would make the following partition:
 DOS c: (400MB)
 Linux /boot (10MB or a little more). Suggestions for the optimal size?
 Windows 98 D: (9GB)
 FAT16 E: (1.5GB)
 Linux /swap (128MB)
 Linux /root (remaining)
 
 I read a lot of installation instructions. None of them shown a map
 like this: the safest way to make the p+artitions to install linux.
 Why?
 
 Please make your suggestions, but specific suggestions, not general. As
 newbie is very difficult to me understand some details and make my own
 choices.
 
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Wow. Combine the /boot and /root to mount poiint /

-Jeff




Re: [newbie] perl terminated install

2000-06-02 Thread Aaron Zuercher

Hi Ed,
I had the same problem when trying to install Mandrake 7.02 on an Athlon 
System.  I don't know what caused it, but I think it has something to do 
with the length of time you take to install.  My installs were also 
crashing during or after the partitioning segment.  After the 2nd crash I 
knew exactly what I wanted to do with my partitions so when I got to that 
step I partitioned the drives quickly and moved on, and the installer 
didn't crash. So maybe that will work for you to.

Aaron




At 02:37 PM 5/31/00 -1000, you wrote:
Hi:

I was reinstallating LM 7 under the 'recommended' mode and suddenly 'perl' 
program terminated the install for the reason that my system or whatever 
was not in (or does not support) 'english' mode...i just went 'HUH?'.

At this point, I can still boot to Windows w/ LILO but my Linux is dead 
since 'perl' terminated installation (after partitioning and formatting my 
2nd HD) before I can input the root password.

thanks all.

edison

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[newbie] Journalized FS for LM 7.1 (ReiserFS)?

2000-06-02 Thread Drakona

I've been reading that LM 7.1 will run on the ReiserFS - a journalized file 
system! Does this finally mean no more fear of a messed up file system from 
improper shutdowns after power failures and such? Does this mean the power 
of Linux has finally been combined with the safety net of BeOS? If so, I 
think Bill has a lot more to worry about

11:33 PM PST 




[newbie] Oracle on LINUX

2000-06-02 Thread Erick Dennis

Hi Guys!

Somebody work with Oracle on Linux? I am looking for a package's editor.
I know this Email isn`t for this kind of question, but maybe someone can 
help me.

Regards.

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Re: [newbie] Installation woes

2000-06-02 Thread Eunice Thompson

When the installation first initialises there is a prompt  'boot:'. If you
type  'expert'
it should take you into the text mode installation. You can also press F1 at
this point for help.

Eunice Thompson
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:24 PM
Subject: [newbie] Installation woes


 I'm trying to install Mandrake 7.0 on a Windows 95 machine with two HD's
and
 a Cyrix 233 chip. It boots OK and gets to initialising the CD Rom but
always
 falls over at
 in second stage install
 -X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 111
 -X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 111
 (Date and time) Gtk WARNING ** cannnot open display = :0 at
/usr/bin/perl -
 install / my-gtk.pm line 139
 install exited abnormally
 I've found one other posting with the same error message and the only bit
of
 kit we have in common is the CPU (his was a 150Mhz) The only reply he got
 was to try a text install.
 How?
 As you can see I haven't got past the first hurdle yet so assume I know
 nothing.
 Thanks in advance
 Pete Taylor.






[newbie]

2000-06-02 Thread michael

Is there a defrag type program for linux or is it so superior to DOS/win that
there aren't any lost clusters or anything to clean up?
Or is it that hte constant re-installation keeps the disk clean? ;-)

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[newbie] A question for Mandrake gurus?

2000-06-02 Thread vern

When Mandrake code is said to be optimized for the
Pentium class machines is it optimized in the source
code, or does Mandrake have a "custom" compiler they
use??  I notice most all the mdk stuff is labeled i586.
Do they (the programmers) have to go into the source
of each package and "bit fiddle" it, or is it a matter
of "packaging" the code. I notice each programmer, or
engineer attaches their name to the package.
vern





[newbie] Oh say can you C??

2000-06-02 Thread vern

Hello,
Where to start?
I am still in the transition mode, coming over from the
darkside (microsoft/DOS/windows/BASIC etc.) I tried to learn
C about 10 years ago, when everyone had their own version.
Before ANSI C was in full use. I had parts of a Borland compiler
and did a few simple "Hello World!" type programs. Now I wonder if
I need all new C reference manuals?? Since the advent of Linux and
the GNU compilers and such. I'm leaning toward an O'Reilly book I
just purchased a PERL manual (the camel book), and would like a
similar book for modern day C.  Do they still use "linker" processes,
and what became of a.out??  Does C still equal C, or are there "flavors"
of C??
Thanks,
vern




Re: [newbie] About blackbox window manager

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Andy wrote:

 *Now, I can have my menu the way I want. But Paul still can't set the*
 *window raising as he want to do it (raising a window when he clicks*
 *anywhere on it). And I would also be interrested in knowing how to do*
 *it.*

I dont really get what you mean...? Do you just mean to move the windows up
and down? because i do it by hitting alt+L i think it is or ctrl+L and then
moving the window, then i maximize it.

Hi Andy,

The problem I had, and still am working on, is this:

I see the bottom of a konsole window 'behind' my pine window. I want to
pull that konsole to the front, to have that 'over' the pine window.
So far I have found that in .blackboxrc I can set the focus mode to
'AutoRaiseSloppyFocus'. With that, I move the mouse over a window and it
is raised (pops to the front) automatically. I like that better than the
default "SloppyFocus", but I would like to know if there is something like
"RaiseOnClick". That is how I have KDE set up, and that way works best for
me. SloppyFocus only points the view to the window that the mouse is over,
but does not raise it until you click the title-bar, and that is not
always in sight.

I hope this brings things across more clear...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] gcc weirdness

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Dan Ferris wrote:

HOWEVER, the stinking autoconf configure scripts still find and
use gcc.  

I don't know that much about the differences between egcs and gcc
except that egcs is used by Red Hat, and gcc is used by
Mandrake.  

So, here is the burning questionHow do I make egcs work
instead of using gcc.  Or am I all screwed up??? 

I don't know about autoconfigure thingies, but the way I would go about it
is: find where the gcc executable is (which gcc), go to that directory,
rename gcc to gcc_old, and make a symbolic link named gcc pointing to
egcs.

That should get you somewhere.

Good luck!
Paul

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Re: [newbie] XFree86 v4.0

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, wayne petherick wrote:

I am looking at upgrading to XF86 v4.0 and was wondering a few things.
First of all, is this release stable yet, and second, there are a few
version for Linux iX86 systems.

Linux-alpha-glibc21/17-Mar-2000 09:55  
Linux-ix86-glibc20/ 17-Mar-2000 23:25
Linux-ix86-glibc21/ 26-Apr-2000 03:44
Linux-ix86-libc5/  

I looked up "glibc" in Kpackage (has a great 'find' function), and Glibc20
came up, so my safest bet would be the second in your list. The first one
will only run on Dec-Alpha processors.

I don't know how stable it is.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Re-partitioning the hard disk

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

None worked though nor any disk druid of any other distro. At last i used 
Red Hat's fdisk which was the only one ready to look at my fucked up 
partition. When done, i aborted the installation of RH, booted with 
Partition Manager rescue disk, changed the partition sizes and re-installed 
LM. Works perfectly now and i have all that additional space.

The wondrous world of computers... After 20 years it still surprises me...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Pauls proposed website

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000, J Walker wrote:

Take a look at www.mandrakeuser.org where Tom Berger (sp?) has made a nice job
out of helping distressed Mandrake newbies (myself included).  

Yep, Tom has a great site there. There's a link to that site from my Linux
page too.
I just plan to put up a limited number of answers to the questions that
are asked here some 10 times a week, or so it seems. I never planned to
make a second MUO site, that would be silly.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Command execution

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Barry Winch wrote:

Can someone please explain the concept behind ./ in executing a command.

If I am in the directory where the programme resides and type the programme
name, I get a:
"bash: programme name: command not found" message

If, from the same directory I type ./programme name everything works as
advertised.

What I know is this: programs are only executed when they are found in the
search path, or when you fully qualify them /dir/dir/program.

The ./ refers to the current directory, which apparently is enough
qualification for Linux. One of the reasons for this is when people play
around with programs that are named after existing programs/commands,
e.g. ls

If you want to run your own ls, you need to specify that. This can happen
when someone wants to work on a development version of a system command.

Paul

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[newbie] fdisk and NT

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Charles A Edwards wrote:

Edison
   fdisk/mbr is the command to use. This will work on  Win95 and 98 systems,
I don't know about NT but it Will Not work for Win2000.
   Boot from your Win Start-up disk and enter fdisk/MBR at the prompt.

   Charles 5/30/2000   4:30pm

fdisk /mbr will not work to get Win NT functionality back. It will only
make WinNT INaccessible. If you want to get that up and running again (the
NT bootloader), bootpart has options for that.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] No 'Copy to' in Netscape 4.7

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Roman Bysh wrote:

I have never seen this in NS for Linux. BUt then, I have not paid
attention to it.

Paul

I have been trying to save all many help responses pertaining to my
configuration. 
While in Linux I noticed that when I right-click on the message line,
the 'copy to' 
command is missing as compared to the Windows version.

Am I missing a command, or, is this only available in Netscape 4.73?

Roman



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Re: [newbie] XDM, how do I get it to load something other than KDE!

2000-06-02 Thread Paul

On Wed, 31 May 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody who has any information on this subject is welcome to respond.

Create a file .xinitrc in your home directory.
In it you put
To load gnome:

exec gnome-session

For Blackbox:

exec blackbox

You can look at .Xclients in your home directory what more things you can
use.

Good luck!
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