Re: [newbie] Cable Modems and NIC cards
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > > which brand of cable is it? I have AT&T and they do > not use DHCP. Its static IP's. Your info should be > on the receipt the installation guy gave you. > > Once again, these directions are (probably) only good > for AT&T @home service. Hi, I have AT&T @home service and the only way I could get it to work was to invoke dhcpcd. Entering in the IP addresses and gateway did not do it for me. I wound up removing all of the information for eth0 and entering "dhcpcd -h " and it worked beatifully. If you read the cable modem HOWTO I think it is different for different areas of the country. I haven't a clue why that is so. The trick for me was that the @home server needed me to tell it my host name. I could ping their server but couldn't go any farther before doing that. Hugo Aloha, Oregon
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
Mark Weaver wrote: > > AOL is the only ISP, (if you can call them that) that cares whether you're > running Linux, BeOS, FreeBSD Windows...or whatever. Just my two > cents. suggesting that some ISP's are friendly to Linux and some aren't is > kinda strange since a lot of the ISP's are running either Linux or a Unix > variant of some sort. > > -- > Mark > > ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | > ** <_||_> in the making of this | > ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > > > I feel your pain Lance. Have you looked for free > > linux friendly ISPs in your area? There has been > > quite a discussion about it here over the last few > > weeks. > > > > > > Good Luck! > > Dacia > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I am only 16 and dont have a steady income so > > > therefor I need to keep AOL > > > because it is what my parents have. I cant get a job > > > around here because of > > > age limitation and a bunch of stupid stuff so I am > > > stuck. > > > > > > ~Lance > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > AOL is the ISP and the interface in one package. I'm not familiar with AOL so I don't know if you can logon and use another browser like Netsacpe or Internet Explorer. If you can, you might try to logon to AOL with LINUX(KPPP)and see if you can use Netscape or whatever browser you use. Email is another story so I won't address it now. Other Options: Do you have an allowance? Can you wash cars, mow lawns, do general around the house fix ups? Paint house numbers on the curb? Then you can earn enough on a weekend to get your own ISP at $20.00 a month. chris -- The Burma Cave! BBS 24/7 4 nodes at: 520-772-4551 An Excalibur GUI Communications System Registered LINUX User# 184803
Re: [newbie] RE: free internet
https://www.mailandnews.com offers free usenet and email. Michelle Joe Bento wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, MundellRH wrote: > > > The main disadvantage I've seen with the free internet companies is none > of them offer usenet. This is probably the major reason I've kept my > Mindspring account.
Re: [[newbie] window manager question]
"Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a bit ago someone said > > "If you choose to use the Sawfish Window Mamanger (which has > replaced Enlightenment as GNOME's default WM), then you may want to fiddle > around with the settings to get it working the way you want it." > > now, i'm confussed about something here i was thinking that Enlightenment and GNOME were both window managers seems i'm wrong. Gnome is a desktop environment, not a window manager. It should run ontop of a window manager (like Sawfish or Enlightenment - or Windowmaker or FVWM or.) ideally. Right now Sawfish is the default. Not too long ago Enlgihtenment had been the default. KDE is also a desktop environment, but it comes with its own window manager KWM by default. You could substitute a different wm for KDE, but typically it runs best on KWM I believe. == > > so am i right that either KDE or GNOME is running under Enlightenment (which is what i am currently using in Mandrake 7.1). so the question is, how do i know which is running, how do i change, and what differences does it make?? == In the Gnome setup or manager (I forget what it's called. I'm in Blackbox just now) choose window manager, and you'll see a short list of window managers with one chosen as "(current)". That's the one you're utilizing at the moment, but you could chose another. = > thanks much... > oh, ps -- if i use the most recent "red hat linux for dummies" book (they have it at the library) this would be mostly true for mandrake linux, am i right??\\ == Probably close enough ;o) == > > thanks again > > adrian = Mike ~~~ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." --Tom Waits ~~~ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
RE: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up?
# in front of the line i find vim easier to use than emacs *ducks potential flames* >Michael, > >What syntax do you use for commenting out lines in Linux? > >Registered Linux User #179293 >Keep your penguin happy > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike & Tracy >Holt >Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:45 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to >Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up? > > >Romanator wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I know Paul has answered this briefly but... Has any one been >> successfull in adding an entry to the Boot.ini file of WIndows NT4? I >> would like to see if NT4 will allow me to boot to Linux? >> >> I always thought that Windows cannot see the Linux partitions. >> >> Regards, >> >> Roman >> Registered Linux User #179293 > >Really easy... first you need to boot into linux and move lilo to your / >directory or your /boot directory, whichever one you're using. Do this >by editing the first line in /etc/lilo.conf to point to /dev/hda(x) (x >being the partition number that your boot or / directory lives on) and >then run lilo to set your changes. Next, do: > >dd if=/dev/hda(x) of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 > >This will drop a bootable image called bootsect.lnx into the directory >that you're sitting in when you run the command. Copy this file to your >NT or Windows 'C' partition. > >Finally, add a line to the bottom of your boot.ini file like this: > >C:\bootsect.lnx="whatever_you_want" > >Save the file and exit. Next time you boot, you should see the NT >bootloader giving you the option to boot into Linux. > >Make sure you comment out the 'prompt' and 'timeout' lines in lilo.conf >before you do the 'dd' step so you won't have to answer questions on >both bootloaders. > >Mike >
RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*
get a new hard drive! that's what i did! *grin* master 10 gig drive - win 98 & linux mandrake 7.1 slave 13.6 gig drive - BeOS & freeBSD & whoknowswhat next ;) >i have never used WinNT, tho i almost installed it when i went to Linux - then decided not to due to lack of drive space for 3 operating systems. when i get a larger drive for my OSs i want to do a Win98/ Linux/WinNT system so i can learn NT, but as you allude to, i was under the impression that NT is a new OS with almost nothing from DOS, this comes only from reading the odd artical however, as i say - not from hands on experience. > >now that you tell this story, it sounds familer to me. i don't recall any specifics however. > > >Adrian Smith >'de telepone dude >Telecom Dept. >x 7042 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2:58:28 PM 8/11/00 >>> >Sorry to break into this thread. It caught my attention. > >A friend of mine told me a story about the birth of Win95. > >A few guys who worked for a company were bought by "MickeySoft" ... one of >the guys for this purchased company thought it would be interesting to move >DOS to 32 bit. As the story goes ... Mickey managers were scared of Billy >Bob and didn't want to do the project.Billy had already told the press >that NT was the product. Period. > >The maverick decided to do it on his own. Eventually the topic came up in a >meeting ... managers said the work wasn't possible. The maverick spoke up >and said the project was about complete. Billy Bob - seeing dollars in his >eyes - gave the project a thumbs up. > >And that ... according to this story ... is how Win95 was born. > >Now - somewhere - someone has written this in a book - anyone know the >title? Something about 'guys in the attic' ... > >Just thought it was funny that the argument of Win95 being an OS is still >debated. But the above may explain why win95/98/ME development has been so >separated from Win NT. > >
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
>Its okay Kathleen! I've still got my old vintage 1987 Atari Mega ST with >4 megs of Ram and Motorola 68000 CPU running @ 16mhz. Go you! :) (4 whole megs! hee! for the time that rocked) :) >As for the Amiga, I owned several in my younger days, they were simply >great machines for their time. (and if anyone is watching Linux Today, >you'll have seen an article about new things from the Amiga crowd. Still >going strong after all these years!) YES >Oh well. Off news-list/topic, and I apologise to the easily offended in >advance... ;-) >-- > /\ > Dark> \/ Kathleen, who is really going to post about LInux again next, honest
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
>Hey Kathleen, Hi Roman >> Also, Outlook sux. :P I have to use it at work. >Why do you have to use it at work ? Can't you download another email >client ? >Roman We have to use it becuse our small company wants everyone using the same software, and there is a temporary moratorium on internet downloads due to some virus problems in the past (before I was hired! it wasn't meee!) Kathleen, posting from BeMail tonight
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
Very cool. I followed his simple instructions about using Openssh and now I'm using it. Wow. Phil On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Tom Brinkman wrote: >On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: >> I personally cannot thank Tom enough for mentioning mandrakeuser.org (btw there is >no >> www first). It has a wealth of information in it. I plan on utilizing this resource >so >> frequently that I even filed it on my personal toolbar in Netscape so I wouldn't >have >> to hunt for it in my bookmarks. :-) >> >> I would urge every newbie to take a look at this site. > > I have been for some time. I was fortunate to find out about it >as soon as it started up not that long ago (another good reason to >lurk on the cooker list ;) BTW it is the efforts of just one man > > "MandrakeUser.Org is me, Tom Berger. I live in Berlin, the >capital of Germany. I'm (almost) 31 years old and work as a >freelancer. I've studied Philosophy, History and Ancient >Philology and have been working as a male nurse for five years. I >write the MUO pages, maintain them, coordinate and merge >contributions and translations, and answer piles of mails. > My only steady co-worker is my wife: she proofreads almost >everything before it goes online (Don't . > > for the rest of it, read the "About MUO" link towards the bottom >of the page. Email Tom and tell him how invaluble this site is. > > IT IS. > > and thanks Patti, it use to be www.man dropping the 'www' >must be very recent, 'cause my old bookmark didn't work anymore ;) >
Re: [newbie] things other than linux (not a complaint) =)
Adrian Smith wrote: > ya know > there have been lots of interesting things said here about old computers, other OSs, >the history of the GUI & such. it really isn't about Linux, and this list seems to >deal with things like this well, but as i was reading today i thought it might be >interesting to have a list dedicated to dicussing > > the history of hardware & software > advanced tips, tricks, easter eggs & such > is Win9x an OS or a GUI (since as someone said, this is still being debated why? >we don't know) > things that we did on computers back in the day when "640K is more than anyone will >ever need" > > thus, we could have a place to ramble on & on about these things without bothering >the people who want Linux only information. does anyone think this might be a good >idea or am i just on drugs? > > if you would be interested, or if you think i'm an idiot, would you please drop me >an email to the address below (not back at the list). > > thanks, and everyone have a great weekend. it's friday as i send this, who >knows when it will reach the list =) > > Adrian Smith > 'de telepone dude > Telecom Dept. > x 7042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] well i think the history of computing is the history of linux. just talk about what ever u want and dont worry about it. some people get a little grouchy no what u say if its even a little of topic. just jump right in. u can be the computer history teacher if u want :)
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > I personally cannot thank Tom enough for mentioning mandrakeuser.org (btw there is no > www first). It has a wealth of information in it. I plan on utilizing this resource >so > frequently that I even filed it on my personal toolbar in Netscape so I wouldn't have > to hunt for it in my bookmarks. :-) > > I would urge every newbie to take a look at this site. I have been for some time. I was fortunate to find out about it as soon as it started up not that long ago (another good reason to lurk on the cooker list ;) BTW it is the efforts of just one man "MandrakeUser.Org is me, Tom Berger. I live in Berlin, the capital of Germany. I'm (almost) 31 years old and work as a freelancer. I've studied Philosophy, History and Ancient Philology and have been working as a male nurse for five years. I write the MUO pages, maintain them, coordinate and merge contributions and translations, and answer piles of mails. My only steady co-worker is my wife: she proofreads almost everything before it goes online (Don't . for the rest of it, read the "About MUO" link towards the bottom of the page. Email Tom and tell him how invaluble this site is. IT IS. and thanks Patti, it use to be www.man dropping the 'www' must be very recent, 'cause my old bookmark didn't work anymore ;) -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Patti > Registered Linux user #184611 > > Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > > Mark Hillary wrote: > > > > > > > > Come on updating the kernel is not has hard as everyone makes out. (I find it > > > > easyier that installing programs). There are several resons to. The kernel that > > > > comes with mandrake haas about everything turned on, so you can have a faster > > > > system by compling only what you need to. Also because every thing is turned >on > > > > all of the moduals take up space. RECOMPLIE to get a faster machine and save > > > > space. (not to mention the bug fixes, in newer versions) > > > > > > Well, it may not be a problem to you, but it is the cause of many > > > headaches to me. The last few times I've tried upgrading from 2.2.14 to > > > 2.4.0-test5 I've hit the black screen of death straight after the > > > "loading" bit. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ozz. > > > > Mark's on track, updating a Mdk kernel is one of the easier > > things involved with Mdk administration. It shouldn't be any > > problem at all for any user, even the newest of newbies if they > > first take a few minutes to visit with MOU (www.mandrakeuser.org) > > and read the section on changing kernels. The whole site is > > available as a download (.tar.gz, updated monthly) so it's easy to > > keep it as a help guide to refer to while you're actually tryin to > > follow it's instructions. > > > >"-test5" Should be a glaring warning, among the many warnings > > that only 2.2.xx kernels are stable, that a successful swap to a > > 2.4.xx kernel is froth with risk. Getting back to 2.2.xx kernels, > > about the only reason to change the default Mandrake config is if > > you have special, difficult, or newest of new hardware that isn't > > supported normally. Most stuff in the 'stock Mandrake' kernel is > > included as a module if it's not fairly standard, so eliminating it > > will not make your system faster in all but the rarest of cases, > > and then usually old or substandard hardware would be the reason. > > > > -- > > ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Do any of the text editors in Linux support the ASCIIformat?
Thanks Alan, Registered Linux User #179293 Keep your penguin happy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Romanator Subject: Re: [newbie] Do any of the text editors in Linux support the ASCIIformat? Romanator wrote: [snip] > Every time I try to copy text from Kedit to Netscape, for some reason > Netscape will not allow me paste the comments. [snip] Romanmake sure the kedit (source) window stays open till the paste is complete: 1. select the text with the left mouse button (drag) in the kedit window 2. paste with a middle mouse button click after placing cursor where the paste should occur in the netscape (destination) window 3. this method also works in reverse, netscape to kedit, as well as between most x applications Alan
RE: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up?
Michael, What syntax do you use for commenting out lines in Linux? Registered Linux User #179293 Keep your penguin happy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike & Tracy Holt Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up? Romanator wrote: > > Hi, > > I know Paul has answered this briefly but... Has any one been > successfull in adding an entry to the Boot.ini file of WIndows NT4? I > would like to see if NT4 will allow me to boot to Linux? > > I always thought that Windows cannot see the Linux partitions. > > Regards, > > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 Really easy... first you need to boot into linux and move lilo to your / directory or your /boot directory, whichever one you're using. Do this by editing the first line in /etc/lilo.conf to point to /dev/hda(x) (x being the partition number that your boot or / directory lives on) and then run lilo to set your changes. Next, do: dd if=/dev/hda(x) of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 This will drop a bootable image called bootsect.lnx into the directory that you're sitting in when you run the command. Copy this file to your NT or Windows 'C' partition. Finally, add a line to the bottom of your boot.ini file like this: C:\bootsect.lnx="whatever_you_want" Save the file and exit. Next time you boot, you should see the NT bootloader giving you the option to boot into Linux. Make sure you comment out the 'prompt' and 'timeout' lines in lilo.conf before you do the 'dd' step so you won't have to answer questions on both bootloaders. Mike
RE: [newbie] Freshmeat?
Try Freshmeat.net rather than Freshmeat.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of patrick darcy Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Freshmeat? A V Flinsch wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Works fine for me. > > > > > Has anyone else besides me had trouble getting to Freshmeat.com the past few > > > days? > > > > I have been having problems on and off for the past week. It seems to depend on > which of my isp's dialup numbers I use. I can get to freshmeat using one, but > not the other, while I can get to my newsserver using the dialup that can't > connect to freshmeat, but not on the one that can connect. Seems to be a > routing problem somewhere. > > -- > Alex > (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) cant help u with your problem rolling on the floor
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA > > This is freakin' hysterical Larry. > > Dacia > --- Larry Hignight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anthony wrote: > > > > > AOL uses it's own special login software and so > > it's impossible to connect to > > > AOL in Linux since AOL doesn't make a linux > > version. > > > > > > > Is there anyway that anyone knows to get AOL set > > up on a linux operating > > > > system(Mandrake 7.1) > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > ~Lance > > > -- > > > Anthony > > > http://binaryfusion.net > > > Computers are not intelligent. They only think > > they are. > > > > If someone were to write an AOhell like program that > > only works with Linux, they > > would surely become immortal in hacker/cracker lure. i know to some this may sound rather crazy, but u have to admit for better or worse aol does have the largest group of people of all the companies. if folks want aol for linux i would imagine that aol would be stupid not to give it to em. i myself dont use or havent ever used aol. the noise that goes hhhOOHHH u got mail would drive me absolutely off the wall after a while. the reason i know this is my roommate has aol, and his aol makes me crazy :) > > > -- > > Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester > > Caldera Linux 2.4 > > - > > 10:55pm up 5 days, 7:03, 5 users, load average: > > 0.21, 0.17, 0.11 > > - > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive?
"Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root" wrote: > Jeff Malka wrote: > > > > Is Laplink a commercial product? > > Yes it is. The latest release is LapLink 2k, and is available from > www.laplink.com. No sign of a Linux version though... > > Regards, > Ozz. i think it is rather cool that some of u have the ability to update your kernal to me it is rather remarkable that u could actually update your operating system while your operating system is in fact running your computer. amazing.
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
>>> "Carjam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4:11:49 AM 8/11/00 >>> IE sends back information to microsoft? I knew it can be made to do that by microsoft, but I dont think it does it every time. adrian replys: i dont' know the specifics actually. the story as i read it is this. when Win95 first came out, one of the computer mags (PC World or one like it, i don't remember now) said that the first time you logged onto the internet with IE, IE would check the software on your computer, see if you were registered and pick up the seriel number, and send this information to M$. it seemed that they said this only happened the first time you logged on. M$ initially denied it, then later - in this same magazine, it was written that M$ admitted, yes this is true - but this function can be disabled. the magazines response was 1. how to disable it is not documented 2. since no one knows it's happening, why would you try to disable it? having never owned a Win95 system, only Win3.1 & 98 i don't know the actual specifics (how to disable, does this really happen, etc.) i have never heard any rumors, tales, stories etc that IE still does this. this was the first thing that made me suspicious of M$. truth be told, i liked Win3.1. i know, call me sick. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
I personally cannot thank Tom enough for mentioning mandrakeuser.org (btw there is no www first). It has a wealth of information in it. I plan on utilizing this resource so frequently that I even filed it on my personal toolbar in Netscape so I wouldn't have to hunt for it in my bookmarks. :-) I would urge every newbie to take a look at this site. Patti Registered Linux user #184611 Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Mark Hillary wrote: > > > > > > Come on updating the kernel is not has hard as everyone makes out. (I find it > > > easyier that installing programs). There are several resons to. The kernel that > > > comes with mandrake haas about everything turned on, so you can have a faster > > > system by compling only what you need to. Also because every thing is turned on > > > all of the moduals take up space. RECOMPLIE to get a faster machine and save > > > space. (not to mention the bug fixes, in newer versions) > > > > Well, it may not be a problem to you, but it is the cause of many > > headaches to me. The last few times I've tried upgrading from 2.2.14 to > > 2.4.0-test5 I've hit the black screen of death straight after the > > "loading" bit. > > > > Regards, > > Ozz. > > Mark's on track, updating a Mdk kernel is one of the easier > things involved with Mdk administration. It shouldn't be any > problem at all for any user, even the newest of newbies if they > first take a few minutes to visit with MOU (www.mandrakeuser.org) > and read the section on changing kernels. The whole site is > available as a download (.tar.gz, updated monthly) so it's easy to > keep it as a help guide to refer to while you're actually tryin to > follow it's instructions. > >"-test5" Should be a glaring warning, among the many warnings > that only 2.2.xx kernels are stable, that a successful swap to a > 2.4.xx kernel is froth with risk. Getting back to 2.2.xx kernels, > about the only reason to change the default Mandrake config is if > you have special, difficult, or newest of new hardware that isn't > supported normally. Most stuff in the 'stock Mandrake' kernel is > included as a module if it's not fairly standard, so eliminating it > will not make your system faster in all but the rarest of cases, > and then usually old or substandard hardware would be the reason. > > -- > ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up?
Romanator wrote: > > Hi, > > I know Paul has answered this briefly but... Has any one been > successfull in adding an entry to the Boot.ini file of WIndows NT4? I > would like to see if NT4 will allow me to boot to Linux? > > I always thought that Windows cannot see the Linux partitions. > > Regards, > > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 Really easy... first you need to boot into linux and move lilo to your / directory or your /boot directory, whichever one you're using. Do this by editing the first line in /etc/lilo.conf to point to /dev/hda(x) (x being the partition number that your boot or / directory lives on) and then run lilo to set your changes. Next, do: dd if=/dev/hda(x) of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 This will drop a bootable image called bootsect.lnx into the directory that you're sitting in when you run the command. Copy this file to your NT or Windows 'C' partition. Finally, add a line to the bottom of your boot.ini file like this: C:\bootsect.lnx="whatever_you_want" Save the file and exit. Next time you boot, you should see the NT bootloader giving you the option to boot into Linux. Make sure you comment out the 'prompt' and 'timeout' lines in lilo.conf before you do the 'dd' step so you won't have to answer questions on both bootloaders. Mike
[newbie] things other than linux (not a complaint) =)
ya know there have been lots of interesting things said here about old computers, other OSs, the history of the GUI & such. it really isn't about Linux, and this list seems to deal with things like this well, but as i was reading today i thought it might be interesting to have a list dedicated to dicussing the history of hardware & software advanced tips, tricks, easter eggs & such is Win9x an OS or a GUI (since as someone said, this is still being debated why? we don't know) things that we did on computers back in the day when "640K is more than anyone will ever need" thus, we could have a place to ramble on & on about these things without bothering the people who want Linux only information. does anyone think this might be a good idea or am i just on drugs? if you would be interested, or if you think i'm an idiot, would you please drop me an email to the address below (not back at the list). thanks, and everyone have a great weekend. it's friday as i send this, who knows when it will reach the list =) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*
i have never used WinNT, tho i almost installed it when i went to Linux - then decided not to due to lack of drive space for 3 operating systems. when i get a larger drive for my OSs i want to do a Win98/Linux/WinNT system so i can learn NT, but as you allude to, i was under the impression that NT is a new OS with almost nothing from DOS, this comes only from reading the odd artical however, as i say - not from hands on experience. now that you tell this story, it sounds familer to me. i don't recall any specifics however. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2:58:28 PM 8/11/00 >>> Sorry to break into this thread. It caught my attention. A friend of mine told me a story about the birth of Win95. A few guys who worked for a company were bought by "MickeySoft" ... one of the guys for this purchased company thought it would be interesting to move DOS to 32 bit. As the story goes ... Mickey managers were scared of Billy Bob and didn't want to do the project.Billy had already told the press that NT was the product. Period. The maverick decided to do it on his own. Eventually the topic came up in a meeting ... managers said the work wasn't possible. The maverick spoke up and said the project was about complete. Billy Bob - seeing dollars in his eyes - gave the project a thumbs up. And that ... according to this story ... is how Win95 was born. Now - somewhere - someone has written this in a book - anyone know the title? Something about 'guys in the attic' ... Just thought it was funny that the argument of Win95 being an OS is still debated. But the above may explain why win95/98/ME development has been so separated from Win NT.
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > It would be better if you actually researched something before you went > spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yourself > look completely incompetant. We don't need personal attacks here either. Everyone is _entitled_ to give their opinions, experience, etc... right or wrong Gawd I know sometimes it's just a little brain fade on my part ;) Chill out a little. In the meantime, I hear cooker's fixin to be in an internal code freeze in 'bout 2 weeks. KDE2 and XF-4 should be release grade by then also. My guess, look for Mandrake 7.2 come late September/early October. XF-4, KDE2, and the fixable problems fixed with those some of y'all had with 7.1 -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* > > > > somebody said: > > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > > cosmetic changes." > > > > nooo. > > don't make me go balistic. > > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of > many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things > some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with > the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent > that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$ > denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a > new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of > hiding DOS. > > > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. > one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS > box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come > up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > > > that's my opinion > > and you all know what opinions are like > > *haha* > > > > adrian > > > > > > > > > > Adrian Smith > > 'de telepone dude > > Telecom Dept. > > x 7042 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
Re: [newbie] RPM announcements
On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:15:37 -0400 it was written: > > Is anyone building RPMs for Mandrake outside of the regular channels? Is > there an announcement list for that? > > I'm familiar with sites like freshports.org for FreeBSD, LinuxMafia for > Slackware, Ryan Weaver's Falsehope stuff for RedHat. Is there something > similar for Mandrake? > Try subscribing to the announce mailing lists at the sites: http://www.linux.mandrake.com http://www.freezer-burn.org -- Steve - Cheltenham, UK - In love and light we are In darkness we are no less
[newbie] usb backportpatch
I have tried to install the backport patch usb-2.4.0-test2-pre2-for-2.2.16-v3.diff.gz when I use the patch command in the terminal it says that it is not a recognized command. Is thepatchcommand not a command in the bash shell? Ed
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
Well, win95 isn't very much dos, but I will admid the same dos core is underneath all the gui memory useing stuff. I didn't know about the pkzip thing, but I know laplink 95 will not run under 98. I found a rumor you might be intrested in: Did you here about microsofts encription program? It turns out it is programed to be easy to break, for someone who has a universal decripter. Microsoft got off, because there was no way to prove it was not just a bug. IE sends back information to microsoft? I knew it can be made to do that by microsoft, but I dont think it does it every time. - Original Message - From: Adrian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* > somebody said: > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > cosmetic changes." > > nooo. > don't make me go balistic. > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$ denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of hiding DOS. > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > that's my opinion > and you all know what opinions are like > *haha* > > adrian > > > > > Adrian Smith > 'de telepone dude > Telecom Dept. > x 7042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
Tom, actually, i'm totally wrong as someone on the list pointed out to me. i made myself look like an idiot =) but i'm touched that he (she? i didn't pay attention) cares about me. =) my only reason for suspecting that more happened between win95 and win98 is things such as my experience with PKZIP. i never had win95 at home, just at work and used PKZIP there all the time. when i got win98 at home & PKZIP crashed, i spent forever trying to figure out how to configure my DOS window settings, or whatever, as i figured that was the reason. then i went to PKWares site & found out they did have a new program for win98. so that is what makes me think something of substance took place between 95 & 98. i also know nothing about win2000... once i understand Linux i'm sure i will use win98 only for photoshop & games, so i don't think i'm going to spend any effort on win2000. i have heard third hand reports of people who like win saying win2000 stinks... but have neither seen a 2000 system nor talked first had to anyone who has one. and more comments below.. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1:35:35 PM 8/11/00 >>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: Correct as far as you go Adrian, W98 is also still just A GUI runnin on top of good 'ol outdated 640K DOS. I don't know about win2k, don't have it don't want it. 'Bout all that windoze 9x is still the best at is a game platform, and everything I've read says W98's much better than win2k for that. DOS isn't hidden in any W9x, just edit MSDOS.SYS to BootGUI=0, and you'll boot to DOS 7.x (W98 is DOS 7.1). Add 'Logo=0' and you can watch it doin it. If you boot to DOS in any other fashion (eg, DosMode, at boot), a quick run of 'mem /c' will show there's some windoze overhead still present. If you edit msdos.sys to eliminate Windoze, 'mem /c' will show no Windoze overhead present. [note: all W9x CD's are not created equal, some will provide a pure DOS prompt by using F8 at boot] my comment: h i thought i knew all the MSDOS.SYS tricks =) i never tried booting to DOS as you describe, i only use the F8 or boot option menu. i will have to try this out. thanks for the tip (right now there are about 500 people going "this is a linux list!") This 'pure' DOS prompt is suitable for even flashing your bios, MOF, I prefer it to doin flashes from a floppy. It also will sometimes get a DOS based program runnin which refuses to work right in DosMode, or Which is another reason to keep Windoze around, 'least for a while ;) That and rippin the TT fonts to use with Linux, so don't microwave those old W9x CD's just yet ;-> -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] me again: i agree, tho i hate win98 in may ways, it does have good things about it. i still have a second computer, MSDOS 6.2/Win3.1. i like to fire it up and talk to my teenager friends about "the old days" have a better one adrian
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
thanks Tom. You answered my questions before I sent them. I've pretty much ruined my recent install by mucking about trying to get X 4.01 installed and working. I suspect I need to re-install so I'm going to "practice" updating the kernel before I do that just for shits and giggles. Dacia --- Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Mark Hillary wrote: > > > > > > Come on updating the kernel is not has hard as > everyone makes out. (I find it > > > easyier that installing programs). There are > several resons to. The kernel that > > > comes with mandrake haas about everything turned > on, so you can have a faster > > > system by compling only what you need to. Also > because every thing is turned on > > > all of the moduals take up space. RECOMPLIE to > get a faster machine and save > > > space. (not to mention the bug fixes, in newer > versions) > > > > Well, it may not be a problem to you, but it is > the cause of many > > headaches to me. The last few times I've tried > upgrading from 2.2.14 to > > 2.4.0-test5 I've hit the black screen of death > straight after the > > "loading" bit. > > > > Regards, > > Ozz. > > Mark's on track, updating a Mdk kernel is one of > the easier > things involved with Mdk administration. It > shouldn't be any > problem at all for any user, even the newest of > newbies if they > first take a few minutes to visit with MOU > (www.mandrakeuser.org) > and read the section on changing kernels. The whole > site is > available as a download (.tar.gz, updated monthly) > so it's easy to > keep it as a help guide to refer to while you're > actually tryin to > follow it's instructions. > >"-test5" Should be a glaring warning, among the > many warnings > that only 2.2.xx kernels are stable, that a > successful swap to a > 2.4.xx kernel is froth with risk. Getting back to > 2.2.xx kernels, > about the only reason to change the default Mandrake > config is if > you have special, difficult, or newest of new > hardware that isn't > supported normally. Most stuff in the 'stock > Mandrake' kernel is > included as a module if it's not fairly standard, so > eliminating it > will not make your system faster in all but the > rarest of cases, > and then usually old or substandard hardware would > be the reason. > > -- > ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
You can just press the esc key to watch it boot as well. BTW, how do you run 32 bit applications in DOS? - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > somebody said: > > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > > cosmetic changes." > > > > nooo. > > don't make me go balistic. > > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$ denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of hiding DOS. > > > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > > > that's my opinion > > and you all know what opinions are like > > *haha* > > > > adrian > >Correct as far as you go Adrian, W98 is also still just A GUI > runnin on top of good 'ol outdated 640K DOS. I don't know about > win2k, don't have it don't want it. 'Bout all that windoze 9x is > still the best at is a game platform, and everything I've read says > W98's much better than win2k for that. > >DOS isn't hidden in any W9x, just edit MSDOS.SYS to BootGUI=0, > and you'll boot to DOS 7.x (W98 is DOS 7.1). Add 'Logo=0' and you > can watch it doin it. If you boot to DOS in any other fashion (eg, > DosMode, at boot), a quick run of 'mem /c' will show there's > some windoze overhead still present. If you edit msdos.sys to > eliminate Windoze, 'mem /c' will show no Windoze overhead present. > [note: all W9x CD's are not created equal, some will provide a >pure DOS prompt by using F8 at boot] > >This 'pure' DOS prompt is suitable for even flashing your bios, > MOF, I prefer it to doin flashes from a floppy. It also will > sometimes get a DOS based program runnin which refuses to work > right in DosMode, or Which is another reason to keep Windoze > around, 'least for a while ;) That and rippin the TT fonts to use > with Linux, so don't microwave those old W9x CD's just yet ;-> > -- > ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
The biggest reason I haven't done it yet is because I can't seem to find a really good walk through for doing it. I'm adventurous but I don't want to go there without a little backup. Do you know where I could find a good walk through? Hey, Mandrake peoples, hows about a neato kernel walkthrough on the old web site? This would be lovingly used by many of us. Dacia --- Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come on updating the kernel is not has hard as > everyone makes out. (I find it > easyier that installing programs). There are several > resons to. The kernel that > comes with mandrake haas about everything turned on, > so you can have a faster > system by compling only what you need to. Also > because every thing is turned on > all of the moduals take up space. RECOMPLIE to get a > faster machine and save > space. (not to mention the bug fixes, in newer > versions) > > Mark Hillary > > Paul wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, patrick darcy wrote: > > > > >it is not recommended u update the kernal thru > mandrake updates. the idea > > >of makefile etc etc etc is pretty spooky sounding > to me. im just gonna > > >wait for the next mandreake. have u heard, suse > has a new version ofl > > >linux out .. > > > > I agree, I am going to sit it out here nice and > quiet, having my linux > > machines run along nicely. Things are all up and > humming, I am happy with > > it. As soon as a new release comes out, I will get > the CD;s and upgrade that > > way. > > > > Paul > > > > -- > > Babies are nature's way > > to make people meet the world. > > At 2am. > > > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- > __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Cable Modems and NIC cards
which brand of cable is it? I have AT&T and they do not use DHCP. Its static IP's. Your info should be on the receipt the installation guy gave you. Once again, these directions are (probably) only good for AT&T @home service. go to the network configuration tab in DrakConf Enter your computer name in the Host name section. mine is d642855-a go to the next tab and make sure that your NIC has an appropriate module chosen for it. Enter your IP address and sub net mask. click quit. choose the tab called DNS something or other. enter your 2 DNS addresses in the fields and for the "Search domain" filed enter the .sttln1.home.com part of your computers full (d642855-a.sttln1.home.com) name. click quit and go to gateway. enter your gateway IP address and click quit. it will ask you to apply changes once you try to close the last box. Say ok but it won't work. You have to open linuxconf and restart the network service in there. It should work just fine now. Good luck! Dacia --- "Paul K. Rooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just installed LM 7.1 and I am trying to get > my nic card and cable > modem to work. I have searched and tried many of > the suggestions for the > past two days to no avail. If anyone has configured > an ethernet card for a > LAN and cable modem PLEASE tell me how to do it. My > system recognizes my > card but I cannot seem to get the DHCP to work. > Your assistance is greatly > appreciated. > > Paul > Las Vegas > __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*
Sorry to break into this thread. It caught my attention. A friend of mine told me a story about the birth of Win95. A few guys who worked for a company were bought by "MickeySoft" ... one of the guys for this purchased company thought it would be interesting to move DOS to 32 bit. As the story goes ... Mickey managers were scared of Billy Bob and didn't want to do the project.Billy had already told the press that NT was the product. Period. The maverick decided to do it on his own. Eventually the topic came up in a meeting ... managers said the work wasn't possible. The maverick spoke up and said the project was about complete. Billy Bob - seeing dollars in his eyes - gave the project a thumbs up. And that ... according to this story ... is how Win95 was born. Now - somewhere - someone has written this in a book - anyone know the title? Something about 'guys in the attic' ... Just thought it was funny that the argument of Win95 being an OS is still debated. But the above may explain why win95/98/ME development has been so separated from Win NT. -Original Message- From: Darren Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* It would be better if you actually researched something before you went spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yourself look completely incompetant. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* > somebody said: > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > cosmetic changes." > > nooo. > don't make me go balistic. > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$ denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of hiding DOS. > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > that's my opinion > and you all know what opinions are like > *haha* > > adrian > > > > > Adrian Smith > 'de telepone dude > Telecom Dept. > x 7042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA This is freakin' hysterical Larry. Dacia --- Larry Hignight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anthony wrote: > > > AOL uses it's own special login software and so > it's impossible to connect to > > AOL in Linux since AOL doesn't make a linux > version. > > > > > Is there anyway that anyone knows to get AOL set > up on a linux operating > > > system(Mandrake 7.1) > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > ~Lance > > -- > > Anthony > > http://binaryfusion.net > > Computers are not intelligent. They only think > they are. > > If someone were to write an AOhell like program that > only works with Linux, they > would surely become immortal in hacker/cracker lure. > -- > Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester > Caldera Linux 2.4 > - > 10:55pm up 5 days, 7:03, 5 users, load average: > 0.21, 0.17, 0.11 > - > __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Darren Hall wrote: > It would be better if you actually researched something before you went > spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yourself > look completely incompetant. Could you please elaborate ? Adrian's answer seems "competant" enough, and I can see no glaring errors in it. But I'd like to learn more... Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River. > > - Original Message - > From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* > > > > somebody said: > > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > > cosmetic changes." > > > > nooo. > > don't make me go balistic. > > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of > many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things > some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with > the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent > that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$ > denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a > new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of > hiding DOS. > > > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. > one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS > box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come > up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > > > that's my opinion > > and you all know what opinions are like > > *haha* > > > > adrian > > > > > > > > > > Adrian Smith > > 'de telepone dude > > Telecom Dept. > > x 7042 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- My karma just ran over your dogma. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
Re: [newbie] Netscape For Linux Problem
On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:18:46 GMT it was written: > Ps: where to get that "Registered Linux User #"? Go here http://counter.li.org/ -- Steve - Cheltenham, UK - In love and light we are In darkness we are no less
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
really? which part is wrong? oh, my feelings Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] window manager question
a bit ago someone said "If you choose to use the Sawfish Window Mamanger (which has replaced Enlightenment as GNOME's default WM), then you may want to fiddle around with the settings to get it working the way you want it." now, i'm confussed about something here i was thinking that Enlightenment and GNOME were both window managers seems i'm wrong. so am i right that either KDE or GNOME is running under Enlightenment (which is what i am currently using in Mandrake 7.1). so the question is, how do i know which is running, how do i change, and what differences does it make?? thanks much... oh, ps -- if i use the most recent "red hat linux for dummies" book (they have it at the library) this would be mostly true for mandrake linux, am i right??\\ thanks again adrian Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] New printing system for Linux-Mandrake
If you have problems with your printer - don't hesitate to test the new print system - Cups which is much more powerful than the former one. If there is a fix to make please contact directly Till ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) INSTALLATION Uninstall LPD: rpm -e rhs-printfilters lpr Install all CUPS-related packages: rpm -Uvh Following packages have to be installed (best in this order): /cooker/RPMS/ghostscript-5.50-16mdk.i586.rpm /cooker/RPMS/ghostscript-module-SVGALIB-5.50-16mdk.i586.rpm /cooker/RPMS/ghostscript-module-X-5.50-16mdk.i586.rpm /cooker/RPMS/cups-1.1.2-4mdk.i586.rpm /cooker/RPMS/cups-drivers-0.3.6-4mdk.noarch.rpm /cooker/RPMS/xpp-0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm With Lexmark 1100, 1020, 1000 also /cooker/RPMS/lm1100-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm With cheap HP inkjets also /cooker/RPMS/pnm2ppa-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm Reboot or start the CUPS daemon manually: /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups start CONFIGURATION - for further information about CUPS usage and administration go to http://localhost:631/sam.html Enter the CUPS administration interface: netscape http://localhost:631/printers/ & and click on "Add printer". If you are asked to log in, log in as "root" on your machine. Choose a printer name (short but for easy association with the printer), location and discription can be left empty and click "Continue". Choose the type of the printer's connection and "Continue". If necessary, you are asked about additional information about the conection now. Enter it and press "Continue". On the screen appearing now choose the manufacturer of your printer and click "Continue". Now you will be asked for the model. Choose it or at least a similar one. After clicking "Continue" now your printer is configured. Click on "Printers" in the bar at the top. You are back on the printers list and your recently configured printer should be listed. If not, click the "Reload" button of your web browser. Now you see some administration command buttons for your printer. Click on "Configure Printer". On the screen appearing then set up the correct options which should be defaults of the printer. The paper size must be according to the paper usually loaded. The "Installed Options" must be the ones really installed at your printer. Wrong settings can prevent your printer from printing. If you do a change in one section, click the appropriate "Continue" button. Use the "Back" function of your browser to get back to do changes in the other sections. When you are done click on "Printers" at the top, go to the list entry of your printer and click on "Print Test Page" to see if all works fine. If something is wrong now, revise your connection or driver choice by the "Modify Printer" button and your defaults by the "Configure Printer" button. When you have returned the borrowed printer, click on "Delete Printer" to remove the entry of that printer. Repeat the steps shown above for all your printers. PRINTING On the command line enter lpr -P as you were used to do it with LPD (the former printing system). Further information you get on http://localhost:631/sum.html For more comfortable printing and easy choosing of a lot of options enter xpp You get a graphical interface for choosing the printer and the options for the chosen printer. The "Options" button leads to the options dialog, where the first two tabs show options you can use on all printers, the other tabs are printer-specific and different for every printer model. When you change options and tabs and other options get red, the options are conflicting and cannot be used at the same time. Change one of them. Click "Save options" so that the chosen options get your personal defaults (also for "lpr"). Click on "This printer as default" to make the current printer your default one (also valid for "lpr"). Further information in /usr/share/doc/xpp-0.4/README (section: Usage tips)
Re: [newbie] Gnapster (continued)...
There are plenty of people who prefer digital to analog. There isn't anything "wrong" with digital, it just sounds bad to me. Its a matter of different ears. Higher quality encoding levels aleviate this somewhat but the fact remains that my ears prefer analog or at least "first generation" digital. My brother can't watch DVD's because he has a genetic "defect" in his vision that makes DVD's give him migraine headaches after only a few minutes. Analog movies don't do this to him. It's similar to that for me, MP3's make my brain hurt. All the sub & super sonics are gone. All of the nice peaks and valleys in the overall wave form are flattened out. This is how encoding/compression works. Decide what people can't hear/doesn't matter and throw it out. Since I play bass, I notice when sub-sonics are gone. Thats half my instrument! Thats why I don't like MP3s. Dacia --- Larry Hignight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure that I agree with the whole sound > quality > thing. I've encoded a number of mp3's of the past > year > using grip/bladeEnc at 320. Everyone that I've had > listen to both the mp3 and the original cd says that > they > can't tell the difference. Others say they can but > the > result is totally random. One of my friends > actually > prefers the sound of the mp3's. He was a former > musician > and he picked the mp3 file like five out of six > times. > The lesson? Encode your mp3's at a higher bit rate > and > don't use the crappy sound xing encoder the > disk > space? In a year you'll be buring a 100gig drive > for > under $100 and you can get 650meg cdr's for .40 now. > > Larry > > Dacia and AzureRose scribed: > > > Speaking as a musician, I've never heard an MP3 > that > > didn't sound flat, compressed, uninspiring and > > insipid. In my opinion they aren't worth paying > for. > > The only use for them that makes any sense to me > is > > for marketing ends. > > > > So, theres my .02 for what its worth from a person > who > > is almost completely disinterested in the whole > > napster/MP3/RIAA thing. Looks like idiots > fighting > > over who owns the storm in sandstorm ;-) > > > > Dacia > __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] ftp proxy question
some sites hang because the site is no longer valid. have you tried another site? - Original Message - From: "bascule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: [newbie] ftp proxy question > my isp here in the uk only allows ftp via its proxy on the particular > account i use (claranet freetime unlimited). > > i just tried to use 'update' but it hung on 'please wait while fetching > the list of upgrade packages' i think this is because of the proxy > issue, is there a way to tell this feature about my isp proxy? > > i am using mandrake 7 > > bascule >
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > somebody said: > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > cosmetic changes." > > nooo. > don't make me go balistic. > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of many of the >DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things some of the computer >magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with the fact that IE took an >inventory of the software on your computer & sent that information to M$ when you >logged on the internet). of course, M$ denied this at first, but eventually admitted >it was true. it may have a new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a >slightly better job of hiding DOS. > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. one case in >point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS box under win95, >under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come up with a new program to >run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > that's my opinion > and you all know what opinions are like > *haha* > > adrian Correct as far as you go Adrian, W98 is also still just A GUI runnin on top of good 'ol outdated 640K DOS. I don't know about win2k, don't have it don't want it. 'Bout all that windoze 9x is still the best at is a game platform, and everything I've read says W98's much better than win2k for that. DOS isn't hidden in any W9x, just edit MSDOS.SYS to BootGUI=0, and you'll boot to DOS 7.x (W98 is DOS 7.1). Add 'Logo=0' and you can watch it doin it. If you boot to DOS in any other fashion (eg, DosMode, at boot), a quick run of 'mem /c' will show there's some windoze overhead still present. If you edit msdos.sys to eliminate Windoze, 'mem /c' will show no Windoze overhead present. [note: all W9x CD's are not created equal, some will provide a pure DOS prompt by using F8 at boot] This 'pure' DOS prompt is suitable for even flashing your bios, MOF, I prefer it to doin flashes from a floppy. It also will sometimes get a DOS based program runnin which refuses to work right in DosMode, or Which is another reason to keep Windoze around, 'least for a while ;) That and rippin the TT fonts to use with Linux, so don't microwave those old W9x CD's just yet ;-> -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive?
Carjam wrote: > > Yes. It is expensive. It is also free, if you know where to look. Not sure > how much it costs for an official copy. Interlink, however, is free. It > comes with dos, and it is technically illegial to download or distribute it. > But it is not for sale anywere, so your not doing anything wrong, right? However, Interlnk does not handle long filenames - only the old DOS-style 8.3 format. Also, it gets unreliable when used with large disks ('large' in this case being a gig or so, IIRC). It requires both machines to be running DOS - not exactly ideal for installing a 'real' operating system #;-D Regards, Ozz.
[newbie] Changing Default App's
Hi, I was digging around Kde using Mandrake 7.1 and can not seem to find anyway to change the default applications asigned to files. like if i click on a text file Kedit comes up. But I would like to change it so that gedit comes up. etc. Hope someone can help. Thanks Doug -- This E-Mail Comes From A LINUX Box! (Mandrake 7.1 on a H/P Pavilion 3266) * The NeptuneOld CB Handle Eldora,IA USA---Home Of The Bad Boys ;-) See My Web Page AT: http://home.earthlink.net/~neptuned/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/theneptune59/index.html E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * MHS Class of 78-Marshalltown High School-Marshalltown,IA USA *
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Mark Hillary wrote: > > > > Come on updating the kernel is not has hard as everyone makes out. (I find it > > easyier that installing programs). There are several resons to. The kernel that > > comes with mandrake haas about everything turned on, so you can have a faster > > system by compling only what you need to. Also because every thing is turned on > > all of the moduals take up space. RECOMPLIE to get a faster machine and save > > space. (not to mention the bug fixes, in newer versions) > > Well, it may not be a problem to you, but it is the cause of many > headaches to me. The last few times I've tried upgrading from 2.2.14 to > 2.4.0-test5 I've hit the black screen of death straight after the > "loading" bit. > > Regards, > Ozz. Mark's on track, updating a Mdk kernel is one of the easier things involved with Mdk administration. It shouldn't be any problem at all for any user, even the newest of newbies if they first take a few minutes to visit with MOU (www.mandrakeuser.org) and read the section on changing kernels. The whole site is available as a download (.tar.gz, updated monthly) so it's easy to keep it as a help guide to refer to while you're actually tryin to follow it's instructions. "-test5" Should be a glaring warning, among the many warnings that only 2.2.xx kernels are stable, that a successful swap to a 2.4.xx kernel is froth with risk. Getting back to 2.2.xx kernels, about the only reason to change the default Mandrake config is if you have special, difficult, or newest of new hardware that isn't supported normally. Most stuff in the 'stock Mandrake' kernel is included as a module if it's not fairly standard, so eliminating it will not make your system faster in all but the rarest of cases, and then usually old or substandard hardware would be the reason. -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
It would be better if you actually researched something before you went spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making yourself look completely incompetant. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough* > somebody said: > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just shells, > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It contains a > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support long > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a few > cosmetic changes." > > nooo. > don't make me go balistic. > win95 is not an OS. win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the name of many of the DOS files so no one would know it. this was on of the things some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along with the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer & sent that information to M$ when you logged on the internet). of course, M$ denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true. it may have a new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better job of hiding DOS. > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the hood. one case in point. PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in a DOS box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash. PKWare had to come up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98. > > that's my opinion > and you all know what opinions are like > *haha* > > adrian > > > > > Adrian Smith > 'de telepone dude > Telecom Dept. > x 7042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
[newbie] ftp proxy question
my isp here in the uk only allows ftp via its proxy on the particular account i use (claranet freetime unlimited). i just tried to use 'update' but it hung on 'please wait while fetching the list of upgrade packages' i think this is because of the proxy issue, is there a way to tell this feature about my isp proxy? i am using mandrake 7 bascule
[newbie] Partitioning an existing W98 drive on Toshiba laptop
I want to install 7.1 on my Toshiba Satellite 4080XCT laptop which currently has Win98 installed with no partitioning. I do not want to re-install Windows or lose any of my current data. I have plenty of space for a 1.5GB partition for Linux. Will the utilities in 7.1 allow me to partition my drive without re-installing Win98, and if so, will I be able to selectively boot Linux or Windows? If necessary I will purchase Partition Magic but would like to avoid the expense. What is recommended? ata
Re: [newbie] modems, please help ....
Ok...through out the directions. They're not any good. Well, at least the one's that you're reading. There's a real easy way to set up your modem for use. Actually there are two easy ways for you to accomplish this. the first is the old fashioned way and that's to define your modem and dialup settings in Linux conf, and the second and easiest way is to use the KDE kppp dialup interface. That's the one that I'll tell you about since it's most like Windows that I'm sure you've already done yourself. To start out with if you're defining your modem as sitting on /dev/modem you're never you going to get the thing to work. No matter how much begging and pleading you do with it. It just ain't gonna work. Modem definition breaks down like this...as far as port defining is concerned. COM1 = /dev/ttyS0 = mouse COM2 = /dev/ttyS1 = modem COM3 = /dev/ttyS2 = modem COM4 = /dev/ttyS3 = modem In most situations everyone usually has the mouse on /dev/ttyS0 (COM1) and then the modem get's the next available COM port which is /dev/ttyS1 (COM2). If Mandrake didn't pick up your modem during the installation don't lose hope. This isn't proof positive that it's a winmodem, which by the way will NOT work in Linux. Now that we've discussed COM ports let's get on to the actuall config of the kppp dialup. Go to the Linux button on any desktop, except of course in Afterstep that has NO Linux (aka START) button and hit the button. This brings up the menus. You want to go to Networking-->RemoteAccess-->Kppp When you click on Kppp it brings up the KDE dialup interface with which you can configure a dialup connection and then launch that connection when you're done. First though when it comes up there's a splash screen with a check box in it. put a check in the box and you'll never see it again. Now you should be looking at the kppp interface. First thing you gotta do is tell it some information about your ISP. You've got to create an account. Very much as you would in Windows. Then you've got to define your hardware settings for the interface before it will work. And establish the IP numbers that your ISP has so gratuitously provided you with. You can do this by check the contents of each tab across the top. The information that is needed will be self-evident when you begin to "fill in the blanks". by hardware setting I mean this is the part where you tell it what COM port the modem is sitting on. Most likely your modem is on COM port 2, or in Lnux terms /dev/ttyS1. I belive this is set on the "modem" tab. You will also notice a check box that is already checked and says something about "file locking". Uncheck this box. If you leave it checked you won't be able to establish a connection. Next, you want to set the control to "none" and the field beneath that set to CR/LR and finally set your speed to 115xxx. On the next tab you should be able to set your modem volume and then query the modem to see if it's being pickup (recognized) by the interface. If your system resonds and all the query strings are empty this is a bad thing and probably indicates that it's very likely your modem us a "winmodem" and will not work. Empty query strings does not mean for certain this is the case, but in 7-10 times it does. The next tab are just some preference settings and while you should take a look at them it's not crucial to set these. They deal mostly with where the interface sits while you're online and it is active. I'm sorry I can't offer you a more detailed procedure description, but at the time I'm sitting at my workstation and I don't have linux running at the moment. YUCK! I had to get into windoze for a while to do some work on a project and I don't yet have access to the network for the penguin. Anyway...that's the long and the short of it. Good luck and enjoy, -- Mark Weaver Destiny Image Publishers IT dept/Reapernet.com Haroon Qureshi wrote: > > hello, > > i'm new to linux and am having problems getting my modem going. the > directions that came with my mandrake linux siad that all i had to do was > link my port that my modem is on to /dev/modem and then run minicom and if > everything is good, i would see an ok returned. when i run minicom, i > recieve a "cannot open /dev/modem; input/output error". i don't know what > this means and have been unable to find any help on this. the modem works > well under win 98 and it is not a winmodem (i verified this from the dealer > and on the web). any help would be greatly appreciated. > > thanks in advance, > > haroon > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Lost CD-RW??
I can tell you how to find the irg in windows 98: You have to right-click on the my computer icon, select properties, select the tab 'device manager', find your cdrw from the list, select it, click properties, select resources, there is the info you need. - Original Message - From: Luther, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: [newbie] Lost CD-RW?? > Hi Gang! > > > Hopefully an "easy" problem. > > I had some work done on the Win98 portion of my dual Mandrake 7.1 / Win98 > machine. The modem had to be replaced and I believe the interrupts may have > moved around. > > Now When I boot into Linux ... I'm greeted with a message saying my > Yamaha CD-RW has been removed ... and asking if I would like the system to > permanently acknowledge this change. > > The CD-RW has not been removed ... and it still works (in Win) How do I > get Linux to "see it" again? > > I'm guessing that I go somewhere in Win98 and look up the IRQ ... and then > edit the \etc\fstab file in Linux ... but I'm only guessing [Don't know > much about hardware --- can you tell?] > > > Thanks for any and all assistance!! > > > Ron L. > > > > > > > > > > s > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] passwords > > I have a big problem... all my passwords are changed! > including root! I tried > booting into single user mode and doing a passwd and it said > it updated all > authentication tokens successfully but the pass did not > change and I cannot > login to my linux box... I don't think i was hacked please > help me. > >
Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive?
Yes. It is expensive. It is also free, if you know where to look. Not sure how much it costs for an official copy. Interlink, however, is free. It comes with dos, and it is technically illegial to download or distribute it. But it is not for sale anywere, so your not doing anything wrong, right? - Original Message - From: Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive? > Is Laplink a commercial product? > > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Registered Linux user 183185 > > - Original Message - > From: Daniel Bodanske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive? > > > > for laptops I always LOVED the Laplink disks -- try and find an old copy > > then do a HD install > > Jeff Malka wrote: > > > > > > I have an old laptop I want to install Linux on but it does not have a > CD. > > > Is this possible? Is there a way to connect the laptop to a desktop > that > > > has a CD drive and install that way? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Registered (Newbie) Linux user 183185 > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > >
[newbie] Problem with kde/gnome
Hi, heya pple i got a problem with kde/gnome. ATM, only root is able to log on to kde/gnome i did a fresh installation of mandrake 7.0 pls let me know what could the problem be Regards, Rick
Re: [newbie] Cannot edit menues in taskbar
Joan Tur wrote: > Hallo! > > When i try to edit the taskbar's menues i > get the following message: menu editor > hasn't been installed. > > Does anyone know what .rpm is the menu > editor? Thanks! ;-) > > -- > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Joan.Tur.pagina.de > Club.Ibosim.pagina.de > > If you are using 7.1, you will find it under Configuration --> Other. -- Barry :-)
Re: [newbie] kppp pppd died unexpectedly
yo wrote: > Hi all > I installed Manrake 7.0-2 in mi PC but unfortunately, Is the firths time > I cannot enter > in Internet using de kppp dialog screen. > I have to use linuxconfig to setup my internet account. > Do somebody experienced the same problem, the message is > > pppd daemon died unexpectedly > > Even using the "root" account.kppp does not help too much , > > Thanks in advanced > > Manuel I was having the same problem. For me, the fix was to go into Kppp Setup and under PPP, set the pppd timeout to 120 seconds. I have heard of others setting it for as much as 200 seconds. -- Barry :-)
Re: [newbie] icewm
Thanks Paul! Mike > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > > >Hello all, > > I installed some new RPMS which changed my desktop to icewm and in > >haste, I did switchdesk kde to get my old desktop back. Now I would > >like to go back to icewm and play with it a little - is there a quick > >way to do this without hand-editing the config files to point to it? > >It's not that I can't do this, but if there's a quicker way, I would > >like to switch back and forth until I get used to this new window > >manager. > > > >Thanks, Mike > > Open a terminal and first do > > which icewm > > If that gives you a location (with me it is /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm) you can > edit ~/.Xclients to read > > #!/bin/sh > exec icewm > > Then start X (startx) and you should be up and running. > Paul > > -- > Babies are nature's way > to make people meet the world. > At 2am. > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 > -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- >
Re: [newbie] RE: free internet
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, MundellRH wrote: I live in Utah. We have an ISP called freeport.com that does not require any propriatary software, and there are no advertising banners. After setting up their package for Windows, I tried entering the access number, my name and password in kppp setup. I didn't know freeport's DNS settings, so I just stuck Mindspring's in. (While not free, Mindspring also works well with Linux, BTW) The main disadvantage I've seen with the free internet companies is none of them offer usenet. This is probably the major reason I've kept my Mindspring account. > > > Is there anything for linux, or that you can use on a linux box to get > free internet? > > Erik > > >
Re: [newbie] Fortify
If you have an rpm install on your box now, just do 'rpm -Uvh' and you will automatically replace the old netscape with the new one. If you're using the .tar.gz version of netscape (meaning you downloaded from netscape and installed yourself from a script) then you will have to get rid of it first. Mike > Do you still need to remove the old netscape before installing the new one? > > > > > On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Hugh wrote: > > > > > > I have been trying to install Fortify1.4.6 to netscape > > > But nothing I type for location works. Has anyone gotten this to work > > > with 7.1? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Just install the latest netscape rpms from cooker and it will have > > 128bit encryption (netscape isn't releasing 56bit? anymore) > > ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS > > > > Mike > > -- > > > > Mike & Tracy Holt > > Kirkland, WA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
Re: [newbie] Boot Magic prompts for a serial number but Icannotfind it
> Thanks' Roger. Now the big problem is to get get BootMagic to show > Linux. > I still cannot configure it with Linux. Which version of windows are you using? If you are using NT, I can tell you a quick way to set up the NT bootloader to boot linux. It works great and if you've got NT on your box, then you've already paid for it! Mike
Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?
> Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > > > I don't think that you can because you're actually mounting one block > > device. You would somehow have to create two partitions on the one > > block device and I think you would be running into to many problems. > > Why not just make the whole thing dos and you would be able to access it > > from both windows and linux? > > > > Am I understanding your question correctly? > > Mike > > Hi Mike. Thanks for the reply. Well, I don't mean two FS types on the > same Zip cartridge. I mean, the ability to change out (in one session > without logging out), a vfat Zip cartridge, and then put in an ext2 Zip > cartridge. I CAN do this as root, right now. A right-click as root on > the Zip icon on my KDE desktop gives me the option to mount the drive as > either vfat or ext2. Works like a charm. However, from my normal user > account, it won't let me mount ext2, because it says only root can use > "mount". Vfat is the default listing in my fstab file, and it allows my > normal user to use vfat Zip cartridges. It just won't let me use ext2. > ;-( > > Maybe my question should really be: How can I let my normal user account > use "mount" without compromising security? ;-) > > -- >/\ >Dark>\/ Oh! I'm sorry, late nights - you know :-o Anyway, instead of listing 'vfat' in /etc/fstab, switch the entry to 'auto', you should then be able to mount any file that your kernel supports. Formatting may be another story, but if the file system already exits, then you should be able to mount, etc. Mike
Re: [newbie] kppp pppd died unexpectedly
yo wrote: > Hi all > I installed Manrake 7.0-2 in mi PC but unfortunately, Is the firths time > I cannot enter > in Internet using de kppp dialog screen. > I have to use linuxconfig to setup my internet account. > Do somebody experienced the same problem, the message is > > pppd daemon died unexpectedly > > Even using the "root" account.kppp does not help too much , > > Thanks in advanced > > Manuel I haven't setup kppp in a while now; however, I used to have to set it to terminal login, enter my username and password, and then the trick wait while this first bit of modem jibberish went across the dialoug box then hit that continue button. Otherwise, I would get a connection timed out error. -- Larry Hignight Descent 3 Beta tester Caldera Linux 2.4 - 10:05pm up 5 days, 6:13, 5 users, load average: 0.28, 0.15, 0.05 -
[newbie] RedHat 6.2 GUI Login Problem
Hi, I'm installing RedHat 6.2 and every thing work find. I can start x window but i can't get GUI Login screen when i press CRTL + ALT + F7. What i get is a black screen with a square mouse cursor. Can anyone please tell me what's wrong? Thank You. -- -- Edmund Cham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Re: [newbie] Location of Netscape Messenger?]
I believe in Netscape preferences you can set it up to open Messenger first...then just leave a copy of Netscape open and restart X or make an "Autostart" link to Netscape HTH Jaguar Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:37:50AM -0400, RJS II wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Anyone know where I can find the executable for Netscape Messenger? > > To my knowledge there's no such thing. If all you want to do is to start > the Messenger right away try netscape +messenger > > Alexander Skwar > -- > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx > Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys > ICQ: 7328191 The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] test
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Re[2]: [newbie] Pine Config
Hi Denis, On Sunday, August 06, 2000, 10:43 AM, you hammered out in part about "[newbie] Pine Config": DH> You can use IMAP server with pine: DH> inbox-path={host}/INBOX DH> (POP is not supported) POP is supported (one account at a time), and I have used it for a long time before going to Mutt. I am not in Mandrake now, but please see my email from a few days ago for the coding. I got this off of their website. It worked well. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Television enables you to be entertained in your home by people you wouldn't have in your home.
[newbie] 7.1 Install fails to repartition disk.
This is a first time install from CD on a Toshiba Satellite 4060. It has a single primary DOS/Windows FAT32 partition occupying all of the 4GB disk. The install goes well in automatic install mode, up to the point where the system files are set up. It stops and displays my 4126MB partition and then suggests I reduce it's size. According to the demo on the mandrake site, it should tell me it's going to reconfigure automatically. I try and resize to say 2200MB, but I get an error message stating 'adjustEnd go beyond end of device geometry (8594775>8450190) at /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_raw.pm line 69 This comes whatever size I choose. I also cannot use the little arrows to the right side and below the resize pop up window. they have no affect. My Windows 98 is occupying approx 1.8GB of the disk. My disk is clean, error free and defragged using NDD, and Speed disk. I have tried different partition sizes, all with no success. I do not have the PnP option in my BIOS, but I did try changing the Device config from 'Setup by OS' to 'ALL devices, but with no difference. Can anyone help? as I feel it should work. I am obviously missing something.. Thanks in advance Mike New Zealand
Re: [newbie] Linux resources online
Then there is the Sears business model: they buy more and more of a smaller companies output, then suddenly cancel. This forces the company into financial distress, ripe for aquisition. The mistake here is for the company to become dependant upon one buyer, but when someone wants to buy from you this rarely looks to be the mistake that it is. In the audio industry contracts are set up that a dealer must take several items in a manufacturer's line, and that they cannot have anything from certain other manufacturers. If you want to have things to sell in your store that's the game you have to play. If things like the above are commonplace, which they are, then when dealing with a company as industry-dominant as Microsoft who knows just what rules apply. On the other hand, many companies are founded with the intent that once successful they will be sold (for a bunch of money). Some people's skill is in founding and building to success. That is what they do, and that is all they are interested in. And I wouldn't want to compete against Microsoft either...let alone what they are capable of doing to competitors. Linux, on the other hand, isn't really playing any of these games. But it's going to remain a "niche" product until people can put a disc in and it will work. You may not like Microsoft, and their products don't work the way anybody likes, let alone all of the problems these products do have, but they DO work (at least for the most part). That's what Linux needs to achieve -- with Linux's other inherent advantages THEN it will be able to challenge Microsoft, dispite Microsoft's dominance. IBM's alliance is a good thing, but they have little real influence that will help Linux. "Nobody ever got fired for recommending IBM" doesn't mean that they are liked. -Gary- In a message dated 8/5/2000 11:00:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Nobody "froces" anyone to sell their company. That is a business decision, most often for the best of the business-owner. Microsoft has the clout to "buy" its expertise. None of these exchanges can happened with consent. >>
[newbie] pppd suddenly stops working after part of 7.0 Deluxe installation
After installing MDK 7.0 from the installation disk, kppp works fine. After I install some package from the Contributors disk, I can't get kppp to work. It dials and logs into my ISP just fine. Then when pppd tries to start, it immediately quits. I think that it is trying to use /dev/pts/? instead of /dev/modem; however I can find nothing wrong with any of the scripts. I have looked in /etc/ppp. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Andy
Re: [newbie] Freshmeat?
A V Flinsch wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Works fine for me. > > > > > Has anyone else besides me had trouble getting to Freshmeat.com the past few > > > days? > > > > I have been having problems on and off for the past week. It seems to depend on > which of my isp's dialup numbers I use. I can get to freshmeat using one, but > not the other, while I can get to my newsserver using the dialup that can't > connect to freshmeat, but not on the one that can connect. Seems to be a > routing problem somewhere. > > -- > Alex > (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) cant help u with your problem rolling on the floor
[newbie] Still trying to get PINE to work :-(
I *LOVED* PINE in school, admittedly it was years ago, and I was just getting used to the university server, but it was VERY fast, handy and good. I've had some luck w/ various ISPs over the years, "trusting" me with shell access and setting up PINE for me, but I've never gotten it to run on my own computer < double frown! >. Thanks to the list for MANY helpful emails ... I'll try to summarize my successes/failures, here; then wait 2 days for it to post . Even with all you've all written, I think I'm only half-way there(!). I got the "ifup ppp0" to work, only when logged on as "root" ... so I decided to go with the advice to configure the fetchmail for use from any logon. When I tried to run the program ("ifup ppp0") from any other login, I got some sort of "file not found" error. I'd previously started PINE in root, and in the logon "palmtop" which is my username for this email account w/ my local ISP (obviously), and let it create its default folders. NOTHING created a /var/spool/user/palmtop directory; I eventually made one myself and told PINE to look there for its inbox ... Many error messages, from both logons. "Root" logon errored out w/ PINE not being able to open the subdirectory ... it "didn't exist" etc. and I once had a "permissions" error w/ the "palmtop" login ... well, I did create the directory, while logged on as "root" so I gave "palmtop" "superuser" privileges ... didn't help any of the errors. What was odd is that, when I ran the "open fetchmailconf" (after starting the "ifup ppp0" from a console window as "root"), I got all sorts of "feel good" feedback. It seemed to find the remote mailbox and even said it got 6 messages Well, it read them and told me how many octets they had, I don't remember seeing a "got 'em and here's where I put 'em" message. I never found where those messages went, if they came "down" to my computer at all. Since I couldn't get a dialup from a pure "terminal" as "palmtop" I never got to experiment w/ fetchmail from a user account well, I did try it once, to see if it would force a dial-up, but it didn't. I'm willing to use pico to edit text-based config. files, try again, or punt. I thought that configuring everything in fetchmail, while logged on as "root" would do it (that sort of tinkering fixed my "domain name problem" earlier ... I don't have to fix it in every user account). Still tinkering! TIA for any help, --tim
Re: [newbie] Freshmeat?
It's freshmeat.net, NOT .com Regards, Ozz. A V Flinsch wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Works fine for me. > > > > > Has anyone else besides me had trouble getting to Freshmeat.com the past few > > > days? > > > > I have been having problems on and off for the past week. It seems to depend on > which of my isp's dialup numbers I use. I can get to freshmeat using one, but > not the other, while I can get to my newsserver using the dialup that can't > connect to freshmeat, but not on the one that can connect. Seems to be a > routing problem somewhere. > > -- > Alex > (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
[newbie] Automated Install Never Prompts User Nor Gives the Option To Place Grub in MBR or Linux Partition
In the Linux-Mandrake Install Guide; User Guide for MDK7.1 Chapter 7, Figure 7.19 it shows the user two options: It says that DrakX will ask you where to install Grub: Where do want to install the bootloader? First sector or drive in (MBR) First sector of boot sector or boot partition Not so. I ran the Automated Installation and I was never prompted for this? Is there any way to correct this without installing Linux again? I would like to add this to my Boot.ini file in NT4. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
[newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini in Windows NT4 so that Linux will boot up?
Hi, I know Paul has answered this briefly but... Has any one been successfull in adding an entry to the Boot.ini file of WIndows NT4? I would like to see if NT4 will allow me to boot to Linux? I always thought that Windows cannot see the Linux partitions. Regards, Roman Registered Linux User #179293
[newbie] Do any of the text editors in Linux support the ASCII format?
Hi everybody, Every time I try to copy text from Kedit to Netscape, for some reason Netscape will not allow me paste the comments. Any ideas? Roman
Re: [newbie] Freshmeat?
Alex, Try freshmeat.net NOT freshmeat.com Roman A V Flinsch wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Works fine for me. > > > > > Has anyone else besides me had trouble getting to Freshmeat.com the past few > > > days? > > > > I have been having problems on and off for the past week. It seems to depend on > which of my isp's dialup numbers I use. I can get to freshmeat using one, but > not the other, while I can get to my newsserver using the dialup that can't > connect to freshmeat, but not on the one that can connect. Seems to be a > routing problem somewhere. > > -- > Alex > (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
[newbie] Network probs
Having some problems with connecting my linux box to my @home cable connection. I disabled DHCP & set it up statically like my windows machine. Now I can ping my IP Address, but I can't resolve any host names. So I can't connect anywhere. Also, under drakconf my NIC is showing up with IRQ & I/O as both being -1. What's up with that? Anyone got any ideas? Only thing I could think of is that linux has an NIS box. What's this? I don't have that option in windows. I left it blank. Do I need to have anything there?
Re: [newbie] HELP!!! PLEASE, I AM AT MY WITS END
> Kalu Chijioke wrote: > 2. I can't get my modem to work too. As described by the ChenLi Tien > CM8738 driver, I am supposed to compile the "pctel.o" > module, that, I can't find anywhere, I have gone to websites to > attempt downloading the file but to no avail, and it isnt included in > my distribution or the device driver accompanying the motherboard. I have the same modem in my motherboard, but this is unfortunately a winmodem. Some people in Taiwan made a linux driver module for this card, it is at: http://www.pcchips.com Unfortunately I couldnt get the drivers to work neither with the soundcard nor the modem, so I went out and bought an external modem and a cheap Yamaha soundcard. Perhaps someone else can help you more with this (maybe in the "expert" mailing list) -- ___ __ /\ Jose Alberto Abreu \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ \ \ Baggage detective\ \ ICQ: 16575263 \ \ \ and apprentice codecaster\ \ "Bending space and time since 2068" \ \ \__\ \_\ \/__/\/_/
Re: [newbie] How can I configure MDK7.1 with another OS using BootMagic?
Paul, Sounds good. I have partically given up on BootMagic. After many unsucessfull attempts, I will try the Boot.ini file in Windows NT4. Thanks Paul, Roman - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] How can I configure MDK7.1 with another OS using BootMagic? > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Romanator wrote: > > >Has any one been successful configuring Linux Mandrake 7.1 and another > >OS such as WinNT4? > >BootMagic recognizes Windows NT4 but I cannot recognize Linux. Should I > >run fdisk /MBR and rerun the Linux installation? > > > >Any success out there with BootMagic and Linux? > > Why do you take the hard road? Boot magic is a bootmanager. It loads Win > NT's bootmanager, or it loads Linux's bootmanager. > > You can get bootpart anywhere on the net, have that create a 512 byte > bootfile for your linux root partition, and plug that into the boot.ini file > for NT. Saves you a bootmanager. > > Paul > > -- > Babies are nature's way > to make people meet the world. > At 2am. > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 > -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Where is the serial number for Boot Magic installation?
Thanks Vic, Roman - Original Message - From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Where is the serial number for Boot Magic installation? > You can try http://astalavista.box.sk they have cracks on there > > > On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Romanator wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying to install Boot Magic but the installation is prompting me > > > for a serial number. > > > Look on the sticker. It came on a CD with: "The Multi-Boot Configuration > > > Handbook" > > > > > > I would like to check out this boot loader for my Linux MDK7.1 and > > > WinNT4. > > > > > > Where can I find the number? Do I have to buy the software? > > > > > > -- > > > Roman > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > Mine was on the "Getting Started Manual" that came with Mandrake. At > > least, it was with 6.5 - my upgrade to 7.0 was downloaded... > > > > Regards, > > Ozz. >
Re: [newbie] transferring files from linux to windows
no man, I need to do, just the opposite... linux to windows On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, you wrote: > On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, KompuKit wrote: > > >Is there a way to transfer webpages (i.e. html,gif,jpg,) > >over to windows...BUT, leave the "type case" untouched? > > I think that mcopy would do what you need. the Mtools are a package to make > copying from FAT16/32 drives to EXT2 drives easy. > > Paul > > -- > Babies are nature's way > to make people meet the world. > At 2am. > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 > -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- -- Registered Linux User:167369 <=KompuKit=> Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S & S 12pm-12am EST) <=KompuKit=>
Re: [newbie] Memory detection problem
I just installed Mandrake 7.1 and then ran the helixcode gnome installer. Everything seems to be working fine, expect that neither DrakConf nor RPMDrak will run. On a related note I tried to install OpenSSH (which I downloaded from one of the mandrake mirrors) but I'm told that RPMLIB is missing. I used the webmin RPM tool to try and install some RPMs and I did seem to properly install one RPM (the OpenSSL RPM) but when I went to install the OpenSSH package I get: Install failed: error: failed dependencies: rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1 is needed by openssh-2.1.1p3-2mdk Any ideas what I'm missing? Anyone know if these two problems are related? Thanks, Philip