[newbie-it] Re:[isdn]
Nature ciao, hai problemi anche tu per la configurazione del modem asus adapte 128k isdnlink? Se ci riesci mi dici come fai?Ho la la 7.1 Mandrake se mi dici come fare per trovare i moduli che a te servono te li manderò voletieri. Sono una profana su linux, addirittura me hanno installato perchè a me non era riuscito. Io non ho trovato neppure i driver per installare questo modem su linux ciao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciao, premetto che non sono un esperto ma sto acquisendo una certa esperienza con questo cavolo di modem. I file che mi servono (e che servono anche a te) li trovi in /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc e si chiamano 1) isdn.o2) dss1_divert.o 3) hisax.o Ti prego di fare attenzione che la terza directory (2.2.15-4mdk) si chiami effettivamente così (quel numero è la versione del kernel). Se vuoi dopo che ho fatto da cavia per questo esperimento se è andato a buon fine ti faccio sapere, sappi comunque che devi installare (se non l'hai fatto ) "isdn4k-utilis" e, opzionale, "isdn4net", che sono dei pacchetti che trovi nei CD che hai. Sbaglio o qualcuno ti ha suggerito di installare KISDN, com'è andata Comunque se non sbaglio hai mandato direttamente a me la tua e-mail, cerca sempre di mandarla alla mailing-list, è anche ( e soprattutto) nel tuo interesse Ciao e grazie per la disponibilità Germano P.S: I moduli se vuoi puoi mandarli direttamente a me
Re: [newbie-it] star office come desktop in mndk-7.2
NAME=StarOffice ICON= DESC=Star Office Environment EXEC=/usr/bin/soffice SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/soffice Oggi Ho corretto questo e adesso va..allla grande e quindi non ho pi nessun problema stata una bella faticaccia, per adesso finita..adesso dovrei imparare a usare questo pacchetto..a partire da come si setta il supporto java che non mi ha riconosciuto all'installazione. Io ho un pacchetto fornito con la 7.2 che si chiama jre-sun (java runtime environment-sun) ma cercando di indicargli la directory non me lo riconosce. Vorrei sapere se quello giusto e come mi devo comportare per il settaggio. Molte molte grazie. Ciao Fede
Re: [newbie-it] Volume audio
Il 00:04, gioved 11 gennaio 2001, scrivesti: Sono un neofita. Ha installato il primo CD della 7.2. Qualcuno sa dirmi come si pu regolare il volume dell'audio in uscita dalla scheda sonora? Non credo si possa agire solamente sugli altoparlanti. Grazie a tutti per l'aiuto. Alberto Devi usare kmix, dal menu K - multimedia - suono - sound mixer
[newbie-it] Sicurezza password -- GRAZIE
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Re: [newbie] Network solution
no problem Don. Thanks for taking care fo that for us all. Abe Don Munson wrote: Gentlemen: I apologize for the problem since this apparently started with me. This was not an issue of request a read from the list but I have this setting on my machine always on for other issues. As has been mentioned there are settings in the email programs and mine is set to automatically respond so I don't ever see the dialog boxes so wasn't aware they were there until I started getting read receipts. I will endeavor to keep them off the list from now on. Don - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Network solution glad to help. I hate those damn reply requests too. Abe "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Thanks, thats a setting didn't notice before. abe wrote: if you are using netscape mail you can set the preferences to never send a reply. edit=preferences=mailnews groups=return receipts: its in the bottom right box. He can request 'em all he wants and I'll never even know. Abe "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Penndragon wrote: Hi Steven I understand your reason, but it irritates more people than will reply. My experience is that many will simply block ypu to avoid that dialog box every time you post :( I'm not one of those, but I do find it annoying. When posting to a liast, surely your post there is sign enough that it gets though? James I agree. I also find it annoying. FWIW Gene
Re: [newbie] Dual processors ??
and later this year is when I'll be building her that system. She's saving her money already. Abe "Liaw, Andy" wrote: If the install program sees two CPUs, it will install the SMP kernel. For example, the kernel installed on our dual P3 Xeon box is 2.2.15-4mdksmp (from LM7.1). As mentioned before, only multi-thread apps and apps specifically written for SMP will run faster. Who makes mobo for dual Athalons? I thought AMD said they won't have SMP-capable Athalons until later this year. Cheers, Andy -- From: abe[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual processors ?? if you are running an SMP mandrake system will recompiling the software you use help it to use the SMP capabilities of the machine or not? You all have me curious now. My girlfriend wants a dual T-Bird system for her birthday this summer. This will be a strictly mandrake machine. Abe Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 09 January 2001 08:17 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: I'd be real interested in knowing about this too cause I've been toying with the same idea of building a dual processor system. Linux is all I run anymore. I'd be more concerned as to how the kernel would react to such a situation more then some of the apps on that system. I can't imagine how'd they'd really care whether there were 1 or 10 processor. Well, i've never run SMP. From what I understand, a multi processor system has no problems running software written for single proccessor systems, but multi cpu systems won't run 'em any faster/better either. The application has to be specifically written and compiled to take advantage of multi proccessors ... and they're few and far between on most all desktop systems. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
I thought he was full of it too. When I first started using mandrake (5.2 I think?) I got a working linux system in a 500 M partition with enough room in ~/abe to keep me happy. Now, if you just say yes to everything then you are going to get one hell of an install! But my favorite passtime with my linux box for the first few months was to sit down and try all those programs. Fire em up and see what happens. It was great fun and a good way to get comfortable with the new environment too. Give me emacs and vim and joe and pico and so on and so forth over notepad and wordpad anyday. Xmms, grip, freeamp, kmp3, and so on over windows media player. I think you all get the point ;-) That article is just more FUD. Abe Adrian Smith wrote: quote from the artical: The week before Christmas, CNET News.com editor Todd Volz blasted most of the major commercial distributions, including Mandrakesoft, for shipping bloated product. While most of the bloat comes in the area of developer-oriented features, i.e. mulitple compilers, screen setting controls etc., Voltz viewed the business community's reluctance to slim things down for the regular user a distressing sign. quote from adrian: where is my shotgun? mandrake comes on 2 CDs with: 1 OS 10 window managers 100+ programs winsux comes on 1 CD with 1 OS bloat? where's the bloat i think someone missed the bloat. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:54:26 AM 1/10/01 http://www.upside.com/Open_Season/3a5b574d60.html -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Version Declaration and Realplayer8
my experiences with realplayer in linux have been flakey to say the least. Oh, and unless thet've released an update in the past week or so, the linux version is real7 not 8. Could be part of your problem with that site. Abe Traci Collins wrote: Hi! I have downloaded and installed Realplayer8 and run the mime and plugin scripts that came with it. Things are working very well in Netscape 4.7x but I have a problem with the streaming MP3 at www.live365.com. When I tell live365 that I would like to play their music using Realplayer and then click on a link to play something I get a message that says I need to install support for Realplayer 7 or above. Since I have Realplayer8 installed and working properly there is obviously something that live365 is looking for that identifies the installed revision which I don't have. Does anyone know what identifies Realplayer version levels for sites that need to know that? If it is more than a mime type declaration or a text file could you also let me know how to modify or create it? I suspect that it is just missing on my system. -- Traci Collins http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
sure and with no development tools you will never be able to recompile the kernel or an app that you use all the time. Most new programs that you download won't install because they need libraries to work. Development tools are required to have a whole linux operating system. Tke away the development tools and linux may as well BE wandows or crapintosh. For the record here I am not a programmer. The only "language" I know is english, html and potty mouth ;-) I'm just a computer user who like to have as much control over my system as I can and I am willing to learn what it takes to do that. Huh, pretty much sums up my overall epistemology about life now that I think about it. Abe john rigby wrote: Ha folks, The real problem with the slow uptake of the fantastic Linux System is that it *is* trying to be all things to all people. There is a VAST difference between the BASIC USER and the TRADITIONAL *ux HACKER. The 99.99% of people out in the Cyberbog that Linux NEEDS to reach/convert to save us all from Bill, do not need now, in the future, ever, ANY Development Tools. The ideal install situation is maybe a 2 disk set: Disk A: SIMPLE up-and-go basic Linux with USEABLE *OFFICE* APPLICATIONS vis: StarOffice, KDOffice, Browser, IE Lookalike Mail program and that is it. NO, repeat NO, Developer stuff needed. Disk B: All the Developer stuff - and certainly no GUI needed. Hackers like to get dirty and "change their own oil". :-) Cheers, John-The-Perpetually-Frustrated-User-ONLY- (Since Fortran and CP/M) - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux quote from the artical: The week before Christmas, CNET News.com editor Todd Volz blasted most of the major commercial distributions, including Mandrakesoft, for shipping bloated product. While most of the bloat comes in the area of developer-oriented features, i.e. mulitple compilers, screen setting controls etc., Voltz viewed the business community's reluctance to slim things down for the regular user a distressing sign.
[newbie] logrotate process does not stop
Hi, I have the following problem on my Mandrake 7.1 kernel 2.2.15: the process logrotate that reorganizes the system messages directory /var/log and which is daily launched by cron does not stop anymore. So each day a logrotate starts , after 3 days on my computer 3 logroate process are running and overload the system. I tried to shutdown the system but the problem appeared again. What sholud I do? Thank you Renato -- Renato Tognaccini, Dipartimento di Progettazione Aeronautica, Universita` di Napoli Federico II, Piazzale V. Tecchio 80, 80125 Napoli, ITALIA. tel.: +39-0817682179 fax: +39-0817682187 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Lost memory after bios update
ai4a wrote: Thanks Tom. Yes PC Chips is the worst of the junk but I own it! I may just buy another motherboard. Thanks again. Charles I just *had* :) to buy a new MB. For some reason my Asus p2b has just been flaky, even though I've always heard good things about them. So I just got an Abit BE6-II. It goes to a ghz when the Asus will only do 512mhz. And the Abit is supposed to be rock-solid a good oc'er. -- Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cautioninc.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Congratulations on an excellent reply to a pathetic article. I couldn't have done it better myself. On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54, Dan LaBine wrote: Just for the record, here's the response I sent to Mr. Volz ; Dear Todd; Interesting article . Was this picaresque novella written to judge the reaction of the general public? Were you attempting to take a survey of Linux enthusiasts, and some bonehead in your marketing department said "Hey let's write something demeaning and shallow, and see what the readers do"? Or, ARE YOU NUTS ???!!! I can't beleive (although you're making it mighty easy) that someone of your apparent stature wouldn't see the benefits and necessity of providing an abundance of applications. First, let's consider the current situation in regards to available software. Typically, it's very expensive, and doesn't always provide what the customer is looking for. If it manages to accomplish this particular feat, chances are that it will be difficult to learn. How many people are totally satisfied with a particular piece of software. If they master it, they usually ending up jumping at the next version hoping it has the improvements that they feel it needs. And so the vicious circle begins. Upgrade after expensive upgrade. But how many more buy it, try it, and fry it? They get fed up and give up. Wouldn't it be great if they could try several and make their own decision. Perhaps they would appreciate certain features of one application, and other features of another. Your article seems to suggest that these choices should be made for the public by someone else, and that the consumer should simply accept what is offered. In other words, having been caught up in the insidious trap deployed by Microsoft, we should now allow history to repeat itself with Linux? How Orwellian of you. Haven't you clued in yet? Linux is all about choice ! It's about having an opportunity to not only personalize the way your desktop looks, it's about choosing the software you want to use without having to pay through the nose for it. I also noticed that you have taken it upon yourself to decide what people do and don't want on their computers. My firm ships out hundreds of computer per week, and my tech support department handles large quantities of phone calls regarding a larger range of questions. The funny thing is, they're almost all about how to select software, and how to personalize their computers. Having been in this business for almost 14 years, I've seen software companies come and go. Remember Delrina ? Global Village? I do. I remember that they expected consumers to pay high price tags for software, and I remember that they didn't give a rat's ass about discontinuing support or revisions to existing software. I remember may others doing the same, and I'm sure that you do as well. Wouldn't it be great if you already had a large selection of software you could pick from? One of the most repetitive accolades we receive from our clients is that we take the time to "Demystify" how computers and software work. The majority of our clients (Corporate and Individual by the way) are surprised and pleased to learn about their IT investments, especially when it's explained in Plain Old English. The terminology is what scares most people, not the necessity to choose from too many programs. They certainly don't have a problem learning, they have a problem understanding "Techno-Babble" It can be as painful as listening to a politician who's trying to tell the truth ! No Sir ! You're way off the mark ! In this day and age, consumers are being treated like idiots. They don't like it one bit, and I don't either. Ever had surgery done? I'll bet you appreciated having the surgeon explain WHY they were going to remove that part of your brain that gives you a conscience, and what was involved, right? Well consumers are exactly the same. They want to know, but they don't want to be treated like morons in the process. Your article strongly suggests that these decisions and choices should be made by the companies who make the products. I find the implication insulting. So would my clients. In the future, please pay more attention to the ramifications of what you say in your articles. What's next Terry? Left handed mice for everyone, and we'll let Henry Ford pick the color of every car ? ( any Color you want,...as long as it's black!) Have a nice day ! Dan LaBine MCSE, MCP. General Manager, Atlantis Computers Ltd. President Maximum L.A.N.'s Ltd. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux quote from the artical: The week before Christmas, CNET News.com editor Todd Volz blasted most of the major commercial distributions, including Mandrakesoft, for shipping bloated product.
[newbie] Helix Code is now Ximian
Has anyone tried going to the Helix Code website (http://helixcode.com/) lately? If you do, you shall receive a nice message stating that they have changed their name to Ximian. In their name change FAQ, they state that the change is so they can "provide trademark protection for our work" (although not the GPL stuff of course). While on the surface this may seem bad in that they can now produce closed-source work, I don't think this will happen, particularly since Miguel de Icaza is one of the leaders. In fact, I think it will be good for GPL GNOME and Linux development. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
[newbie] dynamic ip server installation
Hi all,
i installed succesfully M7.1, i selected server installation, like i did
on my laptop a few months ago. There is a difference however: the laptop
has a fixed ip, the workstation has a dynamic ip.
Is it possible that some serverdaemons are not starting because of the
dynamic ip? On my laptop i didn't need to do anything to get Apache up
'n running. On the workstation it won't start ("could not determine
local hostname)
thx for your suggestions.
Pieter
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Hi Abe Agrered here completely. Sadly, companies like microsoft seem to be willy to tell you what you want.. The various Linux distros on the other hand seem to be willing to give you the choice. This later approach is what I much prefer myself. Sure, you choose all options then you get one hell of a package installed (bloatwise), but once you know what you want, you end up with quite an effcient and reasonable sized package. James - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux I thought he was full of it too. When I first started using mandrake (5.2 I think?) I got a working linux system in a 500 M partition with enough room in ~/abe to keep me happy. Now, if you just say yes to everything then you are going to get one hell of an install! But my favorite passtime with my linux box for the first few months was to sit down and try all those programs. Fire em up and see what happens. It was great fun and a good way to get comfortable with the new environment too. Give me emacs and vim and joe and pico and so on and so forth over notepad and wordpad anyday. Xmms, grip, freeamp, kmp3, and so on over windows media player. I think you all get the point ;-) That article is just more FUD. Abe Adrian Smith wrote: quote from the artical: The week before Christmas, CNET News.com editor Todd Volz blasted most of the major commercial distributions, including Mandrakesoft, for shipping bloated product. While most of the bloat comes in the area of developer-oriented features, i.e. mulitple compilers, screen setting controls etc., Voltz viewed the business community's reluctance to slim things down for the regular user a distressing sign. quote from adrian: where is my shotgun? mandrake comes on 2 CDs with: 1 OS 10 window managers 100+ programs winsux comes on 1 CD with 1 OS bloat? where's the bloat i think someone missed the bloat. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:54:26 AM 1/10/01 http://www.upside.com/Open_Season/3a5b574d60.html -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: Re: [newbie] Mouse wheel not running
Thanks Meph Istopheles, I used Microsoft IntelliMouse and it works fine. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Jueves, Enero 11, 2001 5:16 pm Asunto: Re: [newbie] Mouse wheel not running Meph Istopheles escribi: Francisco, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again; My home computer has a Genius NetScroll+ mouse. Mandrake 7.2 install my mouse as a generic PS2 and the wheel just runs as a third button. If I select the Genius NetScroll then the pointer stop on the top of the screen and doesn't run. Does anyone know how to install this mouse wheel? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) And from Aston: i haven't tried it yet, but i found this reply on www.linuxnewbie.org For scrollwheel, add "ZAxisMapping 4 5" to the 'pointers' section of XF86Config. Some apps (i.e. Netscape) require imwheel to be running for scrollwheel support. Here is my XF86Config: Section "Pointer" Protocol "MouseManPlusPS/2" Device "/dev/psaux" SampleRate 100 Resolution 200 ZAxisMapping 4 5 Buttons 4 EndSection !-- end quote -- aston sydney, australia You know, back when I'd started in RH 5.0 ( even now in lm7.2 to a degree), editing XFree86 files was very intimidating. If you feel this way as well, you might find it easier to use the gui in drakconf. Try either the M$ wheel mouse or the Logitech mouse setting. Back in RH 5.0 6.0, I'd only had the M$ option, it worked in the few apps where the wheel was supported. One of the two will likely work fine for you. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux Thanks a lot for your help Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain)
[newbie] Gnome in Mandrake 7.2
I have installed Mandrake 7.2 and in the login menu (graphical,x-window) I choose the Gnome Desktop, but it starts the X-window and it doesn't appear anything. Is there some bug? I can start the system without x-mode, in terminal mode, what program or file do I modify to start gnome when I type startx? Thank you, Josep Bonet
[newbie] Gnome in Mandrake 7.2
I have installed Mandrake 7.2 and in the login menu (graphical,x-window) I choose the Gnome Desktop, but it starts the X-window and it doesn't appear anything. Is there some bug? I can start the system without x-mode, in terminal mode, what program or file do I modify to start gnome when I type startx? Thank you, Josep Bonet
Re: [newbie] logrotate process does not stop
Hi, I have the following problem on my Mandrake 7.1 kernel 2.2.15: the process logrotate that reorganizes the system messages directory /var/log and which is daily launched by cron does not stop anymore. So each day a logrotate starts , after 3 days on my computer 3 logroate process are running and overload the system. I tried to shutdown the system but the problem appeared again. Download the updates to logrotate and syslogd (almost correct). Those fix the problem. You can find them on rpmfind.net and also on the FTP sites for Mandrake. Paul
RE: [newbie] a painless transition, please
= Original Message From David Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Thursday 11 January 2001 11:26 pm, Vicar In A Tutu wrote: Hail Eris! Firstly, the cursor. It's just a white square, ladies and gents, and weird as it might sound, but I actually like to see the things I click on. I recall seeing a comment in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file that mentions the cursor appearing as a white square. You might be able to fix it by uncommenting a line in this file. Which one would that be, then? the mouse section looks like this: Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/ttys0" EndSection f@#$ed if I know what line that would be... HTH David Nelson
RE: [newbie] Dual processors ??
This is not strictly true. In an SMP environment the "other" processor is always available to handle normal chores. Since the Kernel rapidly switches tasks to whichever processor is more lightly loaded even doing minor things such as word processing is much quicker. For instance, one processor may handle basic X functions while another the KDE menu system. One processor bitblts the display while the other fetches the fonts from the font server, etc. A single thread will not run any faster... (I.E. Setiathome runs ALMOST as fast on a totally unloaded single processor system as it does on an SMP system running X-windows and other processes.) ... in practice the single thread has more cpu cycles available for it, hence it completes more quickly. TWO Setiathome tasks on DUAL SMP take just as long (or faster) as one setiathome task on an single processor system. (this assumes nothing else is running, minimal daemons, etc. on the single processor system...). In the work unit benchmarks two setiathome tasks run faster on SMP than a single task on a single processor system, effectively shooting down your assertion. The reason? In an SMP environment running background things such as daemons, etc. can be split across the individual CPUs. I.E Quake runs MUCH faster in an SMP environment, simply because the other processor can handle screen IO, etc. GIMP is almost twice as fast processing script-fu's etc. An individual filter is no faster however... Two 850's are far cheaper than a 1.6 gig processor (which is not available yet) so there is an apparent cost saving over getting a more powerful system as well. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual processors ?? On Wednesday 10 January 2001 02:48 pm, abe wrote: if you are running an SMP mandrake system will recompiling the software you use help it to use the SMP capabilities of the machine or not? No, the software has to be written by the developer(s) to take advantage of SMP. I believe a Google on 'SMP' will shed more light on the subject than I ever could. I've only looked into it enough to form the opinion that it's a waste on a user-desktop system, there's very little mainstream software that uses SMP. In situations where it could be useful, the $$'s are prob'ly better spent building a better single proccessor system and if you really need SMP, then you prob'ly ought'a be lookin into clustering also. YMMV ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay You all have me curious now. My girlfriend wants a dual T-Bird system for her birthday this summer. This will be a strictly mandrake machine. Abe Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 09 January 2001 08:17 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: I'd be real interested in knowing about this too cause I've been toying with the same idea of building a dual processor system. Linux is all I run anymore. I'd be more concerned as to how the kernel would react to such a situation more then some of the apps on that system. I can't imagine how'd they'd really care whether there were 1 or 10 processor. Well, i've never run SMP. From what I understand, a multi processor system has no problems running software written for single proccessor systems, but multi cpu systems won't run 'em any faster/better either. The application has to be specifically written and compiled to take advantage of multi proccessors ... and they're few and far between on most all desktop systems. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] logrotate process does not stop
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Renato TognacciniSent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:15 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] logrotate process does not stopHi, I have the following problem on my Mandrake 7.1 kernel 2.2.15: the process logrotate that reorganizes the system messages directory /var/log and which is daily launched by cron does not stop anymore. So each day a logrotate starts , after 3 days on my computer 3 logroate process are running and overload the system. I tried to shutdown the system but the problem appeared again. What sholud I do? [|JMS ]Eh, edit the logrotate configuration file would be a good start. -JMS
Re: [newbie] Re: Win4Lin - Does it do WinMe?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be a windoze convert. Why bash a linux product. No Win4Lin does not support WinMe ...yet, but why would you want to. Native win98Se is far more stable than WinMe IMHO. I use both, but find 98SE a better product if you're not using Win2000. People could say Mandrake users are "gungho" who use Red Hat and vice versa. There is no need to bash a product just because you don't use it or haven't used it. I have tried all of the windoze emulators. i hope they DON'T give support to WinME. it's really is not worth the effort. WinME is slower than Win98 (check Tom's hardware website for an excellent review on WinME.) its improved stability is at best minor. most of the 'multimedia enhancements' from WinME can be downloaded for free anyway, and if rumour is any guide, 'Whistler' is coming NEXT year anyway (if M$ doesn't miss their schedule :-) it really annoys how MS is shoving WinME down people's throat, only to ask them to fork out extra bucks for Whistler later. i work for a computer hardware company, and we have already noticed how pricing for Win98 is actually higher than WinME. this is all arbitrary. i have setup win98 on win4lin 1.0 on one machine. it's not a perfect software, but it does what we need. win2000 is not bad ... though last week i actually managed to 'destroy' my machine after i tried to install printer driver for a hp deskjet on a win2 partition. it failed to install, and now my mouse and keyboard have stopped working... it's going into repair next week ... thank heaven for my dedicated linux box (and my G4 Mac as well, but that's another story ... ;-) aston sydney, australia
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Folks, don't worry about it. Journalists think that it's fancy to cryticise linux this season, so they do. What Henri said counts, and that's: "Obviously, things need to be simple for users, but I don't think restricting choice is really the answer." yust my .022 euro... cu Denis On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, abe wrote: :~Now, if you just say yes to everything then you are going to get one :~hell of an install! But my favorite passtime with my linux box for the :~first few months was to sit down and try all those programs. Fire em up :~and see what happens. It was great fun and a good way to get :~comfortable with the new environment too. :~ ... :~ :~That article is just more FUD. -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [newbie] a painless transition, please
Vicar In A Tutu wrote: = Original Message From David Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Thursday 11 January 2001 11:26 pm, Vicar In A Tutu wrote: Hail Eris! Firstly, the cursor. It's just a white square, ladies and gents, and weird as it might sound, but I actually like to see the things I click on. I recall seeing a comment in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file that mentions the cursor appearing as a white square. You might be able to fix it by uncommenting a line in this file. do you use a S3 graphic card? sorry if you had mentioned this already ... if you are using one of the S3 graphic card, then this should work ... $ su password: ** edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config in the devices section where the S3 graphic card is mentioned, there is a line that says # put clock lines here right after that line, enter this Option "sw_cursor" save this file and use ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x. i hope that's somewhat helpful ... aston sydney, australia
[newbie] Many Port Requests
I'm getting many udp port requests through ipchains on 137/netbios-ns. Is this the port NTs use for the nameservers or is it a cracker? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. * Signed, SoloCDM
Re: [newbie] File Manager Performance Differences
On Friday 12 January 2001 03:55, you wrote: When I open the /mandrake/RPM directory on md 7.2 CD1 using Konqueror it takes ages for it to load the list of rpm files whereas if I use either GMC or XWC File Manager the list appears almost instantly. Don't know there would be any difference at all. Nev Try it with Nautilus if you want to see slow. Civileme -- First get it working, then implement the feature set, then optimize
Re: [newbie] a painless transition, please
On Friday 12 January 2001 06:26, you wrote: Hail Eris! Eh, me dears, I seem to be in a bit of a fix here. You see, I have made the transition from Dragon Linux 2.2.4 (a clone of Slackware 7.1) to Mandrake 7.1 (a hard decision inspired by the rants of certain irc curmudgeons) both versions, and, much as I like the ease of configuration and much as I rejoice at the prospect of being finally able to listen to my MP3s (for some obscure reason alsasound drivers wouldn't run on Dragon...), I still have a few things to grumble about. Firstly, the cursor. It's just a white square, ladies and gents, and weird as it might sound, but I actually like to see the things I click on. The mouse is an ancient com port thingy, and I haven't had a single problem with it before. Neither Aktion nor Xmovie are capable of playing back MPEGs properly. Oh, and there's a huge problemola with fetchmail - the .fetchmailrc file is there, it belongs to the proper user and has got the proper permission level (710). However, when I start fetchmail, it freezes as it begins to download the first message. Pine requires an SMTP server, and it never used to - localhost had always been good enough. I'm rapidly approaching my wit's end, as I have to use the web interface for this mailbox, which is always about angst, exasperation, and loss of self-esteem... 23/93 "See the black sun rise from the Solar Lodge" ~JBP'S'C Mickey, Irrev. Vicar In A Tutu from Thee Church Ov Holy Moz, Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Offender Ov Thee Faith. For the mouse, Option "sw_cursor" in the XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file might do wonders. For the rest, well, one thing at a time. Civileme
Re: [newbie] LM7.2 Win2000
AL wrote: Hi! A friend's computer currently has Windows 2000 installed in his primary master 20GB hard drive. His 8.4GB primary slave hard drive is currently free and wishes to install Mandrake 7.2 in it. Will this setup be hassle free in the sense that: 1. No re-partitioning on the 20GB drive be made, if possible. 2. Win2000 is the default OS to boot until he gets the hang of Mandrake. Any feedback, suggestions from the gurus welcomed and appreciated (before I start thrashing his partitions) no re-partitioning will be required. period. i will advise him to back up his stuff first, OF COURSE ... you can specify the lilo or grub bootloader to boot the windows partition first. this should be no problem, though i never tried to have the system boot to windows by default... aston sydney, australia
[newbie] Grub Question
I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please forgive my ignorance. How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file? Thanks y'all, Chris Kelly --- Boy of Destiny King of Nothing
[newbie] VMware
hi all, i am trying to get VMware to run on Mandrake 7.2 the install goes ok, but when i run the config script vmware-config.pl it throws back an error about half-way thru the set-up it asks something about header files. i was wondering if anyone came across this prob and if they managed to fix it i have attached a .png of the error thanks in advance VMWare.png VMWare.png
[newbie] MALE or MAIL
Hi guys just letting you know that mail that people are sending to newbie is all coming to me.Can you tell me how i can stop all this mail coming to me. Desperate - WANT A NEW JOB? THEN LET THE JOB FIND YOU Visit www.ecruit.com.au and register your profile. Then the headhunters can find you. - Get your own free email account at http://www.freemail.com.au/ now part of the Webuser.com.au independent portal. Visit at http://www.webuser.com.au -
Re: [newbie] MALE or MAIL
You have somehow subscribed to the linux-Mandrake newbie mail list. You need to go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3and follow the instructions for unsubscribing. It's a fun list you oughta stick around. GARRY JONES wrote: Hi guys just letting you know that mail that people are sending to newbie is all coming to me.Can you tell me how i can stop all this mail coming to me. Desperate - WANT A NEW JOB? THEN LET THE JOB FIND YOU Visit www.ecruit.com.au and register your profile. Then the headhunters can find you. - Get your own free email account at http://www.freemail.com.au/ now part of the Webuser.com.au independent portal. Visit at... http://www.webuser.com.au - -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] VMware
I had this problem as well sometime back. I never actually got a handle on exactly what was going on, but here is my take. I'm not an expert, but I got it to work. When you recompile your kernel, the header files change. If you try to configure VMWare and the current header files are not those used to generate the running kernel you get the error you see. So it seems you have to use VMWare under the Kernel corresponding to the most recent header files. I could not find a way around this and basically recompiled the kernel, replaced the running kernel and then configured VMWare. Cheers, Scott On Friday 12 January 2001 11:59, you wrote: hi all, i am trying to get VMware to run on Mandrake 7.2 the install goes ok, but when i run the config script vmware-config.pl it throws back an error about half-way thru the set-up it asks something about header files. i was wondering if anyone came across this prob and if they managed to fix it i have attached a .png of the error thanks in advance VMWare.png Content-Type: application/octet-stream; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="VMWare.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] a painless transition, please
On Thursday 11 January 2001 11:26 pm, Vicar In A Tutu wrote: Eh, me dears, I seem to be in a bit of a fix here. You see, I have made the transition from Dragon Linux 2.2.4 (a clone of Slackware 7.1) Jeez, last time I used Dragon it was slack 4. There's a fix for your cursor problem, I believe it's a video quirk. Anyhow, your best friend right now is http://mandrakeuser.org/and to search the mailing list archives http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 (newbie and expert). There's also a lot of documentation on your main menu. Google searches are a great resource, just include 'linux' as one of your search terms. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay to Mandrake 7.1 (a hard decision inspired by the rants of certain irc curmudgeons) both versions, and, much as I like the ease of configuration and much as I rejoice at the prospect of being finally able to listen to my MP3s (for some obscure reason alsasound drivers wouldn't run on Dragon...), I still have a few things to grumble about. Firstly, the cursor. It's just a white square, ladies and gents, and weird as it might sound, but I actually like to see the things I click on. The mouse is an ancient com port thingy, and I haven't had a single problem with it before. Neither Aktion nor Xmovie are capable of playing back MPEGs properly. Oh, and there's a huge problemola with fetchmail - the .fetchmailrc file is there, it belongs to the proper user and has got the proper permission level (710). However, when I start fetchmail, it freezes as it begins to download the first message. Pine requires an SMTP server, and it never used to - localhost had always been good enough. I'm rapidly approaching my wit's end, as I have to use the web interface for this mailbox, which is always about angst, exasperation, and loss of self-esteem... 23/93 "See the black sun rise from the Solar Lodge" ~JBP'S'C Mickey, Irrev. Vicar In A Tutu from Thee Church Ov Holy Moz, Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Offender Ov Thee Faith.
Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
This wasn't a new question, so I pulled this up from the archives. Hope it helps. Barry :-) From: Sridhar Dhanapalan Subject: Re: [newbie] Changing KDE to Gnome Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:19:51 -0800 How do you start X? If X automatically loads at startup, you should get a graphical login screen that has a drop-down menu from which you can select an environment. If GNOME isn't there, then it probably isn't installed (Mandrake GNOME should automatically put an entry there if it is installed). If X does not automatically load at bootup (i.e. you get a plain console), you can change what environment loads when you type startx by editing the .Xclients-default file in your home directory. If it doesn't exist then simply create a text file by that name. In that file (as in all shell scripts), any line beginning with a # can be ignored (they are simply comments). The only line that should not have a # preceding it is the one (there should be only one) that loads your environment. To load GNOME when you run startx at the console put "exec gnome-session" (without the quotes) in the file. For KDE, put "exec startkde", for IceWM, put "exec icewm", for xfce put "exec xfce", and for Sawfish put "exec sawfish". In other words, just put the execution file for the particular environment you want after the word exec. On Thu, 11 January 2001, Greg Sarsons wrote: How do you do it if you do not have graphical user login enabled? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he is using the graphical user login, he can select it or any of the others from there. Barry :-) On Thu, 11 January 2001, "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: My brother is using v7.2 of Mandrake, and currently it boots up into KDE. He wants to know how to switch it so that he can boot into Gnome? Thanks! Surfree.com - nationwide internet access http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] Grub Question
Just become the root user (i.e., do "su", then enter your root password) and open up /boot/grub/menu.lst in an editor -- at the command prompt enter "vi /boot/grub/menu.lst" (replacing "vi" with the name of your favourite editor). On Friday 12 January 2001 04:11, you wrote: I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please forgive my ignorance. How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file? Thanks y'all, Chris Kelly --- Boy of Destiny King of Nothing -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
[newbie] Voodoo3 Hardware 3D Accel - Mandrake 7.2
Hey, I'm having the darnest time getting this voodoo3 to work under Mandrake 7.2 with hardware 3D acceleration. It installed XFree86 4.0.1 lsmod shows 3dfx, agpgart, tdfx. (I ran modprobe 3dfx, then tdfx before starting X) 3dfx module shows up as "unused" even when GL is being used. If anyone has any tips for getting 3D Accel working under ML 7.2, I'd definitely appreciate the help. Thanks, Brian Hayward
RE: [newbie] problem with nvidia tnt2 m64
Hey, Don't really wanna "horn" in, but I've a simillar situation with my Diamond Viper 770D (it's got the tnt2 chip). With XFree4.01 it's almost dead. I'd installed the glide module some games picked up, but (I suppose those not using glide) are unchanged. Switched to the other XFree 3.xx?) with lm7.2, have little change. Meph I have the same card running under XServer 4.01 and in an AMD Duron 800mhz box it is rather fast. Please give more details of your system and I will try to help you. Regards, Ron -- Original Message -- it's so damn slow under ms windows its really fast please help me out -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] LM7.2 Win2000
I found that mandrake 7.2 and win2k played pretty well together. If you are going to use LILO or Grub as the boot loader be prepared to add a boot win2k line manually after mandrake is installed and running. Abe AL wrote: Hi! A friend's computer currently has Windows 2000 installed in his primary master 20GB hard drive. His 8.4GB primary slave hard drive is currently free and wishes to install Mandrake 7.2 in it. Will this setup be hassle free in the sense that: 1. No re-partitioning on the 20GB drive be made, if possible. 2. Win2000 is the default OS to boot until he gets the hang of Mandrake. Any feedback, suggestions from the gurus welcomed and appreciated (before I start thrashing his partitions) Thanks!
[newbie] Printing from X Windows disables CUPS printing.
Hello, I have LM 7.2 in my computer using CUPS to print. There is an HP DeskJet 840C attached to the parallel port and a HP LaserJet 5M attached to a samba server in the local network. I configured the printer in the samba server with the utility included with DrakConf. Everything went fine, even the printing test succeded. From a shell any user could print with lpr. But as soon as I tried to print from an X Window application (I tried Netscape and KWord) or tried to configure the printer for Star Office, the printer was disabled and nothing was printed. The session is as follows. Being prueba.txt a simple text file... [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpr prueba.txt [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is ready no entries So far the printing was succesful. But after sending a Netscape (or KWord or Star Office, etc. ) document as a non privileged user, I get what follows and nothing prints: [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is not ready Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stfabian 11 (stdin) 1509376 bytes [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ su password: [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpq lp is not ready Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stfabian 11 (stdin) 1509376 bytes [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpadmin -plp -E [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpq lp is not ready Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stfabian 11 (stdin) 1509376 bytes [root@ahuizotl /root]# lprm 11 [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpq lp is not ready no entries [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpadmin -plp -E [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpq lp is ready no entries [root@ahuizotl /root]# Did anyone of you have this problem and came with a solution? Thanks for reading this request for help. Have a nice day. Fabian.
Re: [newbie] Re: Win4Lin - Does it do WinMe?
I agree. I have Win98SE running under Win4Lin 2.0 and sound works. Improved but not native TCP/IP networking. Can retrieve e-mail using Outlook 97 without problem. WinME users should stick with windoze if they have to have it under linux (just my opinion). Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be a windoze convert. Why bash a linux product. No Win4Lin does not support WinMe ...yet, but why would you want to. Native win98Se is far more stable than WinMe IMHO. I use both, but find 98SE a better product if you're not using Win2000. People could say Mandrake users are "gungho" who use Red Hat and vice versa. There is no need to bash a product just because you don't use it or haven't used it. I have tried all of the windoze emulators. i hope they DON'T give support to WinME. it's really is not worth the effort. WinME is slower than Win98 (check Tom's hardware website for an excellent review on WinME.) its improved stability is at best minor. most of the 'multimedia enhancements' from WinME can be downloaded for free anyway, and if rumour is any guide, 'Whistler' is coming NEXT year anyway (if M$ doesn't miss their schedule :-) it really annoys how MS is shoving WinME down people's throat, only to ask them to fork out extra bucks for Whistler later. i work for a computer hardware company, and we have already noticed how pricing for Win98 is actually higher than WinME. this is all arbitrary. i have setup win98 on win4lin 1.0 on one machine. it's not a perfect software, but it does what we need. win2000 is not bad ... though last week i actually managed to 'destroy' my machine after i tried to install printer driver for a hp deskjet on a win2 partition. it failed to install, and now my mouse and keyboard have stopped working... it's going into repair next week ... thank heaven for my dedicated linux box (and my G4 Mac as well, but that's another story ... ;-) aston sydney, australia
[newbie] VMware
hi all, i am trying to get VMware to run on Mandrake 7.2 the install goes ok, but when i run the config script vmware-config.pl it throws back an error about half-way thru the set-up it asks something about header files. i was wondering if anyone came across this prob and if they managed to fix it the error it gives is : ... thanks in advance
Re: [newbie] a painless transition, please
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Vicar In A Tutu wrote: Oh, and there's a huge problemola with fetchmail - the .fetchmailrc file is there, it belongs to the proper user and has got the proper permission level (710). However, when I start fetchmail, it freezes as it begins to download the first message. it freez without any error message? try run fetchmail like tihs: $ fetchmail --smtpaddress localhost replace the "localhost" with your domain if your machine is also a DNS server. Pine requires an SMTP server, and it never used to - localhost had always been good enough. leave it to the defaults. if there still an error , it looks like you dont have any mail-server running (Sendmail or Postfix). and be carefull not to install both sendmail and postfix, it causes a lot of trouble, and if you did, remove the sendmail good luck Ribbo -- "Next time, don't bring the geeks ... they make the place look all trashy." -- Major Wayland, "Quake 3 Arena"
RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that well for you. I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that is, without some serious help. Hopefully the upgrades will get better over time. -Original Message- From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Hi, Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet? I tried to install and compile it last night, and had some success. I was able to reboot into the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module. I couldn't get my USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure out what is happening. I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with 2.2.17. My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver. My Ethernet card was not immediately working. I had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver. After that, an insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working. Other than those things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent. Would any other users care to share their experience so far? -Kevin
Re: [newbie] Voodoo3 Hardware 3D Accel - Mandrake 7.2
On Friday 12 January 2001 12:10 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having the darnest time getting this voodoo3 to work under Mandrake 7.2 with hardware 3D acceleration. It installed XFree86 4.0.1 lsmod shows 3dfx, agpgart, tdfx. (I ran modprobe 3dfx, then tdfx before starting X) 3dfx module shows up as "unused" even when GL is being used. If anyone has any tips for getting 3D Accel working under ML 7.2, I'd definitely appreciate the help. I had my V3 setup with 4.01/3d accel, but performance was disappointing at best in things like GLtron, Tuxracer. One FPS! Upgrading to 4.0.2 using ftp://mandragon.org/pub/mandrake/ and 2 cooker rpms, freetype2-devel-2.0.2-0.20001211.1mdk and freetype2-2.0.2-0.20001211.1mdk dramatically improved 3d accel. I used the binary cooker freetype2 rpms, but to be safe, it'd prob'ly be better to get the src versions and rebuild 'em on your system. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] problem with nvidia tnt2 m64
I've got the Diamond 770U (tnt2-ultra). I have quite decent performance using XFree 3.xx. I just used whatever the install (7.2) recommended. If I'm not mistaken Nvidia has special drivers for the TNT2 based cards, though. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Meph Istopheles" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:52 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] problem with nvidia tnt2 m64 Hey, Don't really wanna "horn" in, but I've a simillar situation with my Diamond Viper 770D (it's got the tnt2 chip). With XFree4.01 it's almost dead. I'd installed the glide module some games picked up, but (I suppose those not using glide) are unchanged. Switched to the other XFree 3.xx?) with lm7.2, have little change. Meph I have the same card running under XServer 4.01 and in an AMD Duron 800mhz box it is rather fast. Please give more details of your system and I will try to help you. Regards, Ron -- Original Message -- it's so damn slow under ms windows its really fast please help me out -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
RE: [newbie] a painless transition, please
Thanks! Of course it was that; there was even a comment in XF86Config referring to that. Should have paid the wretched thing more attention... Cheerio, Mick. do you use a S3 graphic card? sorry if you had mentioned this already ... if you are using one of the S3 graphic card, then this should work ... $ su password: ** edit the file /etc/X11/XF86Config in the devices section where the S3 graphic card is mentioned, there is a line that says # put clock lines here right after that line, enter this Option "sw_cursor" save this file and use ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x. i hope that's somewhat helpful ... aston sydney, australia * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The world war was announced days ago, but they didn't know - THE LAZY SUNBATHERS - The sun burns through to the planet's core, but it isn't enough - they want MORE" ~Morrissey * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[newbie] quake2 as non-root?
anybody know how to setup quake2 so you can play it as a normal user? I'm really iffy about running a game as root but it refuses to start up for any other user. Abe
Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
On Friday 12 January 2001 08:36 am, Kevin Tambascio wrote: Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet? I've tried several over the past few months. They're get'n better, either that or I am ;) 'Course my usual formula is to have a few beers and then decide to give 2.4.x another try ; I've always been able to boot them, but with mixed levels of success running them. Last try was last night with kernel-source-2.4.0-2mdk. It's all there in the config, no patches needed .. ppp_generic, ppp_async, ppp_deflate to get dialup going, ReiserFS support, and supermount, all built-in rather than as modules. Stuff like Vfat I also build in, and enable legacy support for ipchains so I don't have to redo firewall and portsentry. Size has been almost 100k bigger than my 2.2.x kernels at 750k. I could trim that down tho. I can get a flawless 2.4 going, but not with supermount working ;( 'supermount -i enable' is ignored, with supermount either built in or as a module. If I force the situation by putting in a saved supermount 'fstab', then I get a kernel panic on re-boot. I suspect it's a supermount/ReiserFS deal. I haven't fooled with tryin to fix it very much tho, I just get frustrated and reboot 2.2.18 ;) While running 2.4.x, about the only thing I've noticed is a very slight improvement in system response, slightly quicker loading. 2.4's memory management is said to be improved. My hdparm checks on HDD's were no change from 2.2.x. I don't have anything that needs 2.4. I just try it out of curiosity. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay I tried to install and compile it last night, and had some success. I was able to reboot into the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module. I couldn't get my USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure out what is happening. I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with 2.2.17. My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver. My Ethernet card was not immediately working. I had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver. After that, an insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working. Other than those things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent. Would any other users care to share their experience so far? -Kevin
Re: [newbie] free VMWARE
On Friday 12 January 2001 08:38 am, Emilio Correa wrote: Hi, thanks for all whose answer my questions. I could fix my problem with kppp. No I wonder if exist a free version of VMWare and where I can download it and where to find information abut the free soft. Plex86, supported by MandrakeSoft http://www.plex86.org/ -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box. When I tried to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new sources. One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected to be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel I compiled was 2.2.16). Things like the VFAT support. make sure you go through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences. Thanks, -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that well for you. I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that is, without some serious help. Hopefully the upgrades will get better over time. -Original Message- From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel Hi, Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet? I tried to install and compile it last night, and had some success. I was able to reboot into the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module. I couldn't get my USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure out what is happening. I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with 2.2.17. My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver. My Ethernet card was not immediately working. I had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver. After that, an insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working. Other than those things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent. Would any other users care to share their experience so far? -Kevin
[newbie] Xitel Storm Platinum PCI
Can anyone explain to me what I need to do to get this sound board working in Linux? I have ML 7.2, and I'm running Enlightenment as my WM, if that makes any difference. If this is a RTFM issue, just point me to the right docs, otherwise help is much appreciated! Thanks -C
[newbie] Kodak cameras
Has anyone set up a Kodak DC3400 to work in gphoto or whatever in linux. Or is there a site set up to check on drivers for digital cameras. Kodak support is ok but this camera isn't listed in gphoto. TIA for any help. -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
[newbie] Trident Blade 9880 and Mandrake 7.2
Hi! I have two years that use linux, this week I buy a new computer. I install suse 7.0 and i don't have problem (more or less). But when i try to install Mandrake 7.2 i have problem with video, the image are broken in two parts and i don't understand why. I have a Trident Blade 9880, monitor Shamrock C703l. Thanks. Moises
Re: [newbie] Just a simple question
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, you wrote: Reply to Darklord I'm not sure what you meant by natively or wine but that is quite a list. I thought for sure the software for ultima online said it would work on Mandrake. That's like my favorite game. You don't have to tell me any of your secrets, but was it hard to get baldur's gate diablo2 and half life to work, or did it take long to make them work. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Hi there. Natively just means that they have been ported to Linux and will run just fine there (well, quite a few require some sort of video card acceleration, such as opengl or Glide). Wine is an emulator that is being worked on. It will allow you to run some Windows apps/games. Like my list said, I've only gotten Starcraft and Unreal to work with it. Others have gotten more games to work with it. Try Wines website for more info. ;-) See ya! -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Netscape 6 and Mime Types
DO NOT USE NETSCAPE 6 FOR EMAIL! Trust me, you don't want to go there. The mail client is horribly slow, crashes on a regular basis for no apparent reason, and is just generally not even up to beta quality at this time -- all in my not-so-humble opinion. I like the Netscape 6 browser (actually I like Mozilla M18 better), but I after trying in vain to use NS6's email client for two weeks with some degree of stability (the slowness was something I was resigned to dealing with), I gave up. Now I use kmail, which does most of what I want, and I put up with the missing functions I would like to have, which I am used to having with Eudora for Windows. Apologies for the unwanted advice. I know this doesn't answer your actual questions. Dave At 12:18 PM 1/11/01 -0700, you wrote: I would like to shift to Netscape 6 instead of 4.7x because of its ability to manage multiple e-mail accounts for a single Linux user (under 4.7x I had to keep a separate user account for each e-mail account). My problem is that the scripts which come with RealPlayer8 for mime and plugin support only work with 4.7x and not 6. Has anyone already gone through the process of getting the mime types to work properly with Netscape 6? Are there simple edits that could be made to the scripts which will make them work with Netscape 6? There are dozens of mime types that mention realplayer in the 4.7x configuration and I would really like to avoid adding them one by one under 6. Also six seems to have some problems with editing or delete mime-types where you made a mistake. Does anyone know the name and location of the file that holds this information so that I can manually delete an error that I can't seem to remove any other way. Thanks. Any help would be appreciated. -- Traci Collins http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html 0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111 01101001 01110011 01100100 01100101 0111 01100100 01001110 0110 01101110 01100111 01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101 01100100 01101001 01100111 01101001 01110100 0111 01101100 (Go figure it out.)
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Dan, great letter, and good follow-ups from the rest of you. I do a decent job of trying to understand others' viewpoints before condemning them to eternal fire and Liberace records, but Todd's view here is just lame. Again, the truth is beautifully expressed thusly: "Obviously, things need to be simple for users, but I don't think restricting choice is really the answer." Lame-o seems to have used the term "bloatware" to describe the number of packages in a given distribution, but I've been using it to mean a _single_ package that is * Sloppily written, and so takes up lots-o-disk space, * Eats up system resources as if it's the only app in existence, * And, consequently, works slower than it should. Have I been leading a life of error? Miark - Original Message - From: "Denis HAVLIK" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux Folks, don't worry about it. Journalists think that it's fancy to cryticise linux this season, so they do. What Henri said counts, and that's: yust my .022 euro... cu Denis On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, abe wrote: :~Now, if you just say yes to everything then you are going to get one :~hell of an install! But my favorite passtime with my linux box for the :~first few months was to sit down and try all those programs. Fire em up :~and see what happens. It was great fun and a good way to get :~comfortable with the new environment too. :~ ... :~ :~That article is just more FUD. -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions, paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
Dennis Myers wrote: When it boots to the login box that wants either the user + password or root + password there is a button that has kde on it click on that button and all of the installed choices including gnome will drop down. Click gnome and pull up a mushroom. Oh, then click "go" sorry my strange sense of humor got in the way back there. grin Okay, first of all I didn't make my message clear enough. My brother and I both know how to change from a *graphical* login. Neither one of us do that though. We both boot up to the time-honored command line/prompt. So...how or what do you change from there to switch? Thanks! PS...or is it still easier to run DrakConf and set it to a graphical login, pick Gnome as default, then run DrakConf again, and tell it NOT to start X automagically? ;-) PSS I'd still like to know the other way, for curiosities sake... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Re: Win4Lin - Does it do WinMe?
Hi all, While it is indeed annoying that MS has decided to try and wring the last possible penny out of the dinosaur known as Windows 95/98/98SE/ME, I must disagree with your sentiments regarding Win4Lin support of Win ME. The quality and stability (or lack thereof) of Win ME vs. Win 98 is completely irrelevant to whether Win4Lin should support the product. What counts is, does Netraverse want to increase their user base, and avoid alienating potential new Linux users/customers? Also, is Linux really about choice, or not? If it is, then newbies running Win ME shouldn't be excluded from joining our ranks! Go out and buy yourself a shiny new PC. Guess which OS is preinstalled? Win ME, of course. Now, pretend that you don't have easy access to Win 95/98/98SE or you just don't see any reason to shell out US$89 to *downgrade* your Windows license. You want to run Linux, and you would like to try Win4Lin. Oops! Win4Lin doesn't support Win ME! Now what? You either pay up the $89, or, more likely, give up. Now that's one less potential Linux user, and one less potential Netraverse customer -- plus, you are going to tell all your friends that you wanted to give it a try, but you couldn't live without application X for Windows, and Linux doesn't support that app, and you couldn't get Win4Lin support for Win ME either. Now we've lost another ten (give or take) potential Linux users, and Netraverse has lost that many potential customers, because of your bad experience. Not a very good marketing plan for Netraverse. Dave At 10:38 AM 1/12/01 -0500, you wrote: I agree. I have Win98SE running under Win4Lin 2.0 and sound works. Improved but not native TCP/IP networking. Can retrieve e-mail using Outlook 97 without problem. WinME users should stick with windoze if they have to have it under linux (just my opinion). Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be a windoze convert. Why bash a linux product. No Win4Lin does not support WinMe ...yet, but why would you want to. Native win98Se is far more stable than WinMe IMHO. I use both, but find 98SE a better product if you're not using Win2000. People could say Mandrake users are "gungho" who use Red Hat and vice versa. There is no need to bash a product just because you don't use it or haven't used it. I have tried all of the windoze emulators. i hope they DON'T give support to WinME. it's really is not worth the effort. WinME is slower than Win98 (check Tom's hardware website for an excellent review on WinME.) its improved stability is at best minor. most of the 'multimedia enhancements' from WinME can be downloaded for free anyway, and if rumour is any guide, 'Whistler' is coming NEXT year anyway (if M$ doesn't miss their schedule :-) 0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111 01101001 01110011 01100100 01100101 0111 01100100 01001110 0110 01101110 01100111 01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101 01100100 01101001 01100111 01101001 01110100 0111 01101100 (Go figure it out.)
Re: [newbie] Juno ISP in Linux?
Hi Benjamin, If you _need_ the Juno program to successfully log on, then you won't be able to use it in Linux because they don't have any Linux software. Wait a sec... yep. This is from Juno itself: "Sorry, at this time, Juno is available for only personal computers (PCs) running Microsoft Windows 95 or later or Microsoft Windows NT 4.0." Miark From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a dual-boot Linux/Win98 system. In Windows use Juno as my ISP, that is, Juno Premium, the commercial version without the banner ads. I would very much like to use Juno as my dial-up in Linux. Is there any way to do this? Currently, I use Bellsouth dial-up, which doesn't support Linux any more than Juno. Yet, I have no problem connecting to the Internet via Bellsouth. Is that technically feasible in Linux?
Re: [newbie] I can't see any WEB page
Emilio Correa wrote: Hello, I am Emilio and my OS is Mandrake 7.0. with 96 of RAM and a HD of 8.0 GB. FaxModem USR ext. I recently setup an internet account by kppp, but I didn't fill in the DNS address. Now I can't see any WEB page with Netscape when I'm on line. My ISP doesn't need the DNS in windows 97 but may be it is different in kppp. Is necesary to fill in the DNS address in the kppp setup? Is this information available in linux in somewhere? Thanks and sorry for my english. -- Win9x picks up it's DNS addresses via DHCP. It's possible that newer versions of the DHCP client for linux can get DNS info, but I've always manually set them for linux. If you boot to Win9x, do start-run type "winipcfg" (no quotes) it will pop up a box w/ your IP info. Then click on advanced (I think), it will be close to the top of the box, you can get your DNS addresses from there to plug into linux.. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cautioninc.com This will work AS LONG AS you are connected to the your ISP at the time. Gray
Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wasn't a new question, so I pulled this up from the archives. Hope it helps. Barry :-) How do you start X? If X automatically loads at startup, you should get a graphical login screen that has a drop-down menu from which you can select an environment. If GNOME isn't there, then it probably isn't installed (Mandrake GNOME should automatically put an entry there if it is installed). If X does not automatically load at bootup (i.e. you get a plain console), you can change what environment loads when you type startx by editing the .Xclients-default file in your home directory. If it doesn't exist then simply create a text file by that name. In that file (as in all shell scripts), any line beginning with a # can be ignored (they are simply comments). The only line that should not have a # preceding it is the one (there should be only one) that loads your environment. To load GNOME when you run startx at the console put "exec gnome-session" (without the quotes) in the file. For KDE, put "exec startkde", for IceWM, put "exec icewm", for xfce put "exec xfce", and for Sawfish put "exec sawfish". In other words, just put the execution file for the particular environment you want after the word exec. Now I'm curious. I went to my users home directory and there is no .Xclient-default file. I don't use a graphical login... So...how does my setup (Mandrake v7.1) know to boot KDE when I type in "startx"... ;-) Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/
[newbie] Printing from X Windows disables CUPS printing. Partial solution.
Hello again, I read the cups log for erros and found the following: After sending the printing job via Netscape (or any X Windows application in KDE) with lpr command into a samba server, the /var/log/cups/error_log had this Job 18 queued on 'lp' by 'fabian'. Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 8540) for job 18. Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb (PID 8541) for job 18. ERRDOS - ERRfilexists (The file named in a Create Directory, Make New File or Link request already exists.) opening remote file (stdin) PID 8541 stopped with status 1! Saving printers.conf... The printer then disabled: [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is not ready Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stfabian 11 (stdin) 1509376 bytes Then I candelled the job with lprm. The following was appended to the error log: Job 18 was cancelled by 'fabian'. Setting lp printer-is-accepting-jobs to 1 (was 1.) Setting lp printer-state to 3 (was 5.) Saving printers.conf... Finally I had to set the printer ready via [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpadmin -plp -E and the log appended Printer 'lp' modified by 'root'. If I instruct Netscape to use "lp -t name" instead of "lpr" I get the appropiate printing! I did a Google search and found the messagge that I append and don't exactly understand. It seems that some parenthesis must be deleted in order to printing within Mozila to work. Can anyone tell me in which file such pathenthesis must be deleted? Another solution could be to set the KDE printing system to use "lp -t name" instead of simply "lpr". How could this be done? - Hi, It's most likely the parenthesis that cause the spooler to flip alright. I met this problem outside cups when running with the redhat setup lp system and printing from staroffice 5.2. Luckily there I was able to edit the filter script and get rid of the (). I will probably stumble upon it soon since I've got cups now via mandrake 7.2. Guy. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy Lo A Foe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 22 november 2000 12:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CUPS] Weirdness when printing from stdin Hello, I have the following setup: - Linux server with SMB/CUPS - Linux/Windows box using SMB print facility Everything works fine when queueing jobs using "lp filename.ps". However when printing from stdin, e.g. from within Mozilla, cups stops with the following error logged: I [22/Nov/2000:10:32:10 +0100] Job 39 queued on 'printers' by 'andy'. I [22/Nov/2000:10:32:10 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 488) for job 39. I [22/Nov/2000:10:32:10 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster (PID 489) for job 39. I [22/Nov/2000:10:32:10 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoprinter (PID 490) for job 39. I [22/Nov/2000:10:32:10 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb (PID 491) for job 39. E [22/Nov/2000:10:32:11 +0100] PID 491 stopped with status 1! E [22/Nov/2000:10:32:11 +0100] ERRDOS - ERRfilexists (The file named in a Create Directory, Make New File or Link request already exists.) opening remote file (stdin) . Apparantly SAMBA or the local CUPS, dunno exactly, is choking on the "(stdin)" job name! Naming the job with -t fixes this. My question, is this a known problem? And can I get rid of the parentheses without specifiying -t explicitly? Thanks, Andy -- AlsaPlayer, http://www.alsaplayer.org/ I -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:32:44 -0600 (CST) From: "[X-UNKNOWN] Peña Arellano Fabian Erasmo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Printing from X Windows disables CUPS printing. Hello, I have LM 7.2 in my computer using CUPS to print. There is an HP DeskJet 840C attached to the parallel port and a HP LaserJet 5M attached to a samba server in the local network. I configured the printer in the samba server with the utility included with DrakConf. Everything went fine, even the printing test succeded. From a shell any user could print with lpr. But as soon as I tried to print from an X Window application (I tried Netscape and KWord) or tried to configure the printer for Star Office, the printer was disabled and nothing was printed. The session is as follows. Being prueba.txt a simple text file... [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpr prueba.txt [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is ready no entries So far the printing was succesful. But after sending a Netscape (or KWord or Star Office, etc. ) document as a non privileged
Re: [newbie] free VMWARE
Hi, Does plex86 support Windows 98 as a guest OS? Fabian. On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 12 January 2001 08:38 am, Emilio Correa wrote: Hi, thanks for all whose answer my questions. I could fix my problem with kppp. No I wonder if exist a free version of VMWare and where I can download it and where to find information abut the free soft. Plex86, supported by MandrakeSoft http://www.plex86.org/
RE: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
Instead of using startx since it will launch the default kde, use the commands startgdm or startkde and you need not worry about the default. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question. Dennis Myers wrote: When it boots to the login box that wants either the user + password or root + password there is a button that has kde on it click on that button and all of the installed choices including gnome will drop down. Click gnome and pull up a mushroom. Oh, then click "go" sorry my strange sense of humor got in the way back there. grin Okay, first of all I didn't make my message clear enough. My brother and I both know how to change from a *graphical* login. Neither one of us do that though. We both boot up to the time-honored command line/prompt. So...how or what do you change from there to switch? Thanks! PS...or is it still easier to run DrakConf and set it to a graphical login, pick Gnome as default, then run DrakConf again, and tell it NOT to start X automagically? ;-) PSS I'd still like to know the other way, for curiosities sake... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Xitel Storm Platinum PCI
On Friday 12 January 2001 10:13 am, Carson Christian wrote: Can anyone explain to me what I need to do to get this sound board working in Linux? I have ML 7.2, and I'm running Enlightenment as my WM, if that makes any difference. If this is a RTFM issue, just point me to the right docs, otherwise help is much appreciated! A Google on 'Xitel Storm Platinum PCI' returns http://lhd.zdnet.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?1304 It's a win-sound card. Start here: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001115080820 -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Kodak cameras
On Friday 12 January 2001 12:29 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone set up a Kodak DC3400 to work in gphoto or whatever in linux. Or is there a site set up to check on drivers for digital cameras. Kodak support is ok but this camera isn't listed in gphoto. TIA for any help. http://www.gphoto.org/info.html email 'em and ask, I'll bet it'll work. I have an Olympus, the exact model isn't listed either, but it works better with gphoto than with the windoze software it came with -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] free VMWARE
On Friday 12 January 2001 01:49 pm, Pea Arellano Fabian Erasmo wrote: Hi, Does plex86 support Windows 98 as a guest OS? They say it does, but plex86 is still in very early development Plex86, supported by MandrakeSoft http://www.plex86.org/ -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
In lieu of having a .Xclient-default in your home directory, there is a default configuration that specifies KDE. But you can still _add_ a .Xclient-default to your directory. In it, put "exec manager" (no quotes) where "manager" is the window manager you want. You can do a list of available managers by doing a "chksession -l". A funny thing with my set up, though: my chksession list includes "Gnome", but I can't bring up Gnome unless .Xclient-default file says, "exec startgnome". Maybe this will work for you. Miark Now I'm curious. I went to my users home directory and there is no .Xclient-default file. I don't use a graphical login... So...how does my setup (Mandrake v7.1) know to boot KDE when I type in "startx"... ;-) Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wasn't a new question, so I pulled this up from the archives. Hope it helps. Barry :-) How do you start X? If X automatically loads at startup, you should get a graphical login screen that has a drop-down menu from which you can select an environment. If GNOME isn't there, then it probably isn't installed (Mandrake GNOME should automatically put an entry there if it is installed). If X does not automatically load at bootup (i.e. you get a plain console), you can change what environment loads when you type startx by editing the .Xclients-default file in your home directory. If it doesn't exist then simply create a text file by that name. In that file (as in all shell scripts), any line beginning with a # can be ignored (they are simply comments). The only line that should not have a # preceding it is the one (there should be only one) that loads your environment. To load GNOME when you run startx at the console put "exec gnome-session" (without the quotes) in the file. For KDE, put "exec startkde", for IceWM, put "exec icewm", for xfce put "exec xfce", and for Sawfish put "exec sawfish". In other words, just put the execution file for the particular environment you want after the word exec. -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] KDE2.0 Menu -- Konqueror as root -- Where?
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 11 January 2001 12:00 am, Benjamin Sher wrote: Is there a menu item in KDE 2.0 which would allow me to launch Konqueror as root (with a dialog box asking me for my root password) so I can access my files. On the menu, Applications | File tools | File manager (super user mode) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay As discussed here you have three choices 1. Applications | File tools | File manager (super user mode) 2. In the drakmenu in the application area add kdesu -c /usr/bin/konqueror, and lastley which is not discussed here 3. Creat a desktop icon and check the box that says run as another user and type in root in that box. For Konqueror I always use 1. For others such as Xcdroast I use 2. in preference to 3 as it keeps the dektop clear. Nev
Re: [newbie] Juno ISP in Linux?
Sorry to butt in, here, just my 2 cents, Juno, unfortunately like alot of worthless microsoft-advocates, will not pull their heads out from their armpits, they are hopelessly strung to winblows stuff. A few are shockwave (not flash player, surprisingly there is flash for linux), Goldwave, Netzero, Altavista net services, just to name a few, they are the ones losing out, they could use the business from the linux community. On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Miark wrote: Hi Benjamin, If you _need_ the Juno program to successfully log on, then you won't be able to use it in Linux because they don't have any Linux software. Wait a sec... yep. This is from Juno itself: "Sorry, at this time, Juno is available for only personal computers (PCs) running Microsoft® Windows® 95 or later or Microsoft Windows NT® 4.0." Miark From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a dual-boot Linux/Win98 system. In Windows use Juno as my ISP, that is, Juno Premium, the commercial version without the banner ads. I would very much like to use Juno as my dial-up in Linux. Is there any way to do this? Currently, I use Bellsouth dial-up, which doesn't support Linux any more than Juno. Yet, I have no problem connecting to the Internet via Bellsouth. Is that technically feasible in Linux?
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Don't the devoted hackers work on any gui development stuff anymore? On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, john rigby wrote: Disk B: All the Developer stuff - and certainly no GUI needed. Hackers like to get dirty and "change their own oil". :-)
[newbie] midi
Hello all, Has anyone had any luck with midi in Mdk 7.2. I have a SB Live soundcard and cd's, mp3's, etc. all work fine. Kmid will open a midi file and do everything but play sound. What am I missing. Thanks, Mickey Soltys
[newbie] Worthless RPM software
I would like to know why every time I attempt to install something worthless RPM says: "only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM" what bullsh** is this?
RE: [newbie] Voodoo3 Hardware 3D Accel - Mandrake 7.2
I had the same problem, this is the solution: 1) Download the files tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.386 and tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm from the next URL: http://linux.3dfx.com 2)Be sure your Mandrake have installed the Glide3 lib. 3) Open a Konsole an type from the directory where you have the two mentioned files: rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.386.rpm rpm --rebuild tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm rpm -Uvvh /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/686/tdfx_drm-1.0-3.386.rpm 4)Better shutdown the system and restart (shutdown -r now) You could try now for example with Chromium tuxracer or tuxkart In my case this works fine, now I can run QuakeIII and a lots of games. I hope this will work also for you, if you try please tell me how it was!! Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Enero 12, 2001 0:10 am Asunto: [newbie] Voodoo3 Hardware 3D Accel - Mandrake 7.2 Hey, I'm having the darnest time getting this voodoo3 to work under Mandrake7.2 with hardware 3D acceleration. It installed XFree86 4.0.1 lsmod shows 3dfx, agpgart, tdfx. (I ran modprobe 3dfx, then tdfx before starting X) 3dfx module shows up as "unused" even when GL is being used. If anyone has any tips for getting 3D Accel working under ML 7.2, I'd definitely appreciate the help. Thanks, Brian Hayward
Re: [newbie] problem with nvidia tnt2 m64
Joseph Red wrote: I've got the Diamond 770U (tnt2-ultra). I have quite decent performance using XFree 3.xx. I just used whatever the install (7.2) recommended. If I'm not mistaken Nvidia has special drivers for the TNT2 based cards, though. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Meph Istopheles" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:52 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] problem with nvidia tnt2 m64 Hey, Don't really wanna "horn" in, but I've a simillar situation with my Diamond Viper 770D (it's got the tnt2 chip). With XFree4.01 it's almost dead. I'd installed the glide module some games picked up, but (I suppose those not using glide) are unchanged. Switched to the other XFree 3.xx?) with lm7.2, have little change. Meph I have the same card running under XServer 4.01 and in an AMD Duron 800mhz box it is rather fast. Please give more details of your system and I will try to help you. Regards, Ron -- Original Message -- it's so damn slow under ms windows its really fast please help me out -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux Sorry for butting in as well - but I too have a diamond viper 770 and I just came off SuSE to mandrake. In SuSE I had to download the latest drivers nvdriver.rpm and nv_glx.rpm and activate the 3D part of it in the XF86Config - and ensure the nvidia was selected in preference to nv. Apparently the nv drivers do not work with the drivers from Nvidia. I still have the info with me and I'm not sure how relevant this is to md7.2. Nev Nev
Re: [newbie] menu system problem
On Thursday 11 January 2001 09:56, you wrote: Is there a way to fix multiple entriesin the Kmenu system? after an attempt of installing an app called: "rmagic" for analog (which also used CPAN to install some needed modules) I now have multiple entries of everything in my kmenu... there's 4 entries of each app...how can I fix this? as root type update-menus -v -- Regards, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Voodoo3 Hardware 3D Accel - Mandrake 7.2
I had the same problem, this is the solution: 1) Download the files tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.386 and tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm from the next URL: http://linux.3dfx.com 2)Be sure your Mandrake have installed the Glide3 lib. 3) Open a Konsole an type from the directory where you have the two mentioned files: rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.386.rpm rpm --rebuild tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm rpm -Uvvh /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/686/tdfx_drm-1.0-3.386.rpm 4)Better shutdown the system and restart (shutdown -r now) You could try now for example with Chromium tuxracer or tuxkart In my case this works fine, now I can run QuakeIII and a lots of games. I hope this will work also for you, if you try please tell me how it was!! Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Enero 12, 2001 0:10 am Asunto: [newbie] Voodoo3 Hardware 3D Accel - Mandrake 7.2 Hey, I'm having the darnest time getting this voodoo3 to work under Mandrake7.2 with hardware 3D acceleration. It installed XFree86 4.0.1 lsmod shows 3dfx, agpgart, tdfx. (I ran modprobe 3dfx, then tdfx before starting X) 3dfx module shows up as "unused" even when GL is being used. If anyone has any tips for getting 3D Accel working under ML 7.2, I'd definitely appreciate the help. Thanks, Brian Hayward
Re: [newbie] Worthless RPM software
On Friday 12 January 2001 03:36 pm, Vic wrote: I would like to know why every time I attempt to install something worthless RPM says: "only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM" what bullsh** is this? user error -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] no mouse under Drak X (newbie)
Hi! I tried to install Mandrake 7.0 and got immediately one problem. I booted directly from the Mandrake CD, the installation program started but my mouse didn't response. I first tried to make the installation just with the keyboard, but there are options I only can reach by mouse, so what did I possibly do wrong? Do I first have to enter any parameters before loading the kernel? The mouse is correctly connected (I've already installed Win95 and there the mouse works fine). Hardware: - Logitech PS/2 3-button mouse (don't ask me the exact type, I don't know it) - ASUS SP98AGP-X mainboard with SIS 5591 chipset Thanks in advamce for any help! Chris
[newbie] Voodoo3 3500 TV card
Is there anyone using the Voodoo3 3500 TV card successfully on linux?
RE: [newbie] no mouse under Drak X (newbie)
Have you tryed the text installation? just start using the cd and in the presentation screen type F1 and in the next screen type text. I have one time the same problem using MDK 7.0 and the mouse worked using the text installtion. Nevertheless, I had any problem in the same computer using Mandrake 7.1 or 7.2, why you don't try one of these new versions?? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: c-3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Enero 12, 2001 4:12 pm Asunto: [newbie] no mouse under Drak X (newbie) Hi! I tried to install Mandrake 7.0 and got immediately one problem. I booted directly from the Mandrake CD, the installation program started but my mouse didn't response. I first tried to make the installation just with the keyboard, but there are options I only can reach by mouse, so what did I possibly do wrong? Do I first have to enter any parameters before loading the kernel? The mouse is correctly connected (I've already installed Win95 and there the mouse works fine). Hardware: - Logitech PS/2 3-button mouse (don't ask me the exact type, I don't know it) - ASUS SP98AGP-X mainboard with SIS 5591 chipset Thanks in advamce for any help! Chris
Re: [newbie] Worthless RPM software
You're attempting to install a package built with RPM version 4 using RPM version 3. Did you get the packages you're trying to install from Mandrake Cooker? M. On Friday 12 January 2001 13:36, you wrote: I would like to know why every time I attempt to install something worthless RPM says: "only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM" -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
Re: [newbie] Worthless RPM software
ok what is my user error? On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 12 January 2001 03:36 pm, Vic wrote: I would like to know why every time I attempt to install something worthless RPM says: "only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM" what bullsh** is this? user error -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Nutzo-insane RPM software
Whoa. I do not think it was, at least it did not say 'cooker' from where I downloaded it from, how do I install another version of rpm without it beanhatching about stupid libraries? On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Michael O'Henly wrote: You're attempting to install a package built with RPM version 4 using RPM version 3. Did you get the packages you're trying to install from Mandrake Cooker? M. On Friday 12 January 2001 13:36, you wrote: I would like to know why every time I attempt to install something worthless RPM says: "only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM" -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
Re: [newbie] ppp error 15
This did NOT make any difference... - Original Message - From: "civileme" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ppp error 15 On Wednesday 10 January 2001 00:40, you wrote: I have been having a hell of a time with my Mandrake 7.2 powerpack install. I have setup my modem (worked great in 7.0) with setserial, and can connect thru kppp to my isp (earthlink) but it acts as though it has no DNS (can not connect to anywhere but ppp starts) I believe I have tried every damn setting I can think of. I looked at a log that said pppd died with error 15... man pppd says somethiong about "peer not returning an echo" is this some modem setting that I am screwing up? thanks in advance kppp will override the DNS settings in network if you check the box to do so You want to put in 207.217.120.43 209.179.179.19 207.217.77.42 As primary, secondary and tertiary Domain Name Servers Civileme Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
The man for startx says that there is a file called .xinitrc in the user's home directory that references the last xwindow session used and runs that one. If the .xinitrc is not in the user's home directory, it uses the file called xinitrc in the xinit library directory. I didn't find it in my home, but you can find it in the X11 directories, also the bash file that sets the configuration and indicates the last session settings. I was hoping to find a command option that would give me what I wanted, but haven't located that yet. I experimented some and 'startx ?' didn't give me options, but loaded up Icewm instead. I was in kde. Anyway, on with the search. Barry :-) Now I'm curious. I went to my users home directory and there is no .Xclient-default file. I don't use a graphical login... So...how does my setup (Mandrake v7.1) know to boot KDE when I type in "startx"... ;-) Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] problem with nvidia tnt2 m64
Hey Nev, Sorry for butting in as well - but I too have a diamond viper 770 and I just came off SuSE to mandrake. In SuSE I had to download the latest drivers nvdriver.rpm and nv_glx.rpm and activate the 3D part of it in the XF86Config - and ensure the nvidia was selected in preference to nv. Apparently the nv drivers do not work with the drivers from Nvidia. I still have the info with me and I'm not sure how relevant this is to md7.2. Please send it on over. After many hassles on other subjects when I'd ran RH 6.0 ( a Dell altered version of it, at that), I'm rather reluctant to install such things without ~lots~ of docs. Thanks, Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Getting support
Yes it is. [Snipped a bunch of very important but unnecessary stuff];-) For my money I thing Mandrake is really triying, while other distro's are not. So Mandrake keep up the good work. Dude (et al), I apologize to have given the impression that I don't care for lm's support. I've been using Linux for some time, though I'm still something of a newbie in many areas. I'm very pleased with Mandrake in comparison to RedHat will only -- after many months or possibly years -- leave Mandrake to go bsd (which has been my plan since RedHat 5.0 got released installed on two 'puters I was using then). So, yeah. I'm all for it will wait with all the patience I can manage for some response. But I'm a misanthropist very cynical. Just my nature. A very important lesson for us all: Don't ever let your children become end-user support technicians -- they'll hate you everyone else for it;-). Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] VMware
I had that too but it still works ok . I'm running 98 (right now) and win2000 and nt 4 and win me ( is not running will at all ) Michael Falzon Mozy's Swamp Red Dwarf BBs The Last Of The BBs Sysop's www.mozysswamp.yi.org - Original Message - From: "James Hallam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: [newbie] VMware hi all, i am trying to get VMware to run on Mandrake 7.2 the install goes ok, but when i run the config script vmware-config.pl it throws back an error about half-way thru the set-up it asks something about header files. i was wondering if anyone came across this prob and if they managed to fix it i have attached a .png of the error thanks in advance VMWare.png
[newbie] modem..kernel Hsp56 micromodem
some1 know what to do with my problem, i just get the right linux driver 4 my modem and now ther is a problem because of im using lnx4win and the driv3er said that it was 4 kernel 2.2.5 and ln4win is 2.2.17k im new at linux and i would like to know what to do, i dont know maybe updating kernel or something. thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] menu editor changes don't work
can someone tell me exactly what files menu editor edits because on my system it does not edit those files under ~/.kde/share/applnk/i know this because if i use the menueditor to change the command for kpackage to include kdesu at the beginning it is not reflected in my menu, in fact menu editor reports the command to execute as kpackage -u, whereas ~/.kde/share/applnk/./kpackage.desktopright clickpropertiesexecute shows kpackage -u -caption etc.etc (or some such-it's definitely not the same though). if i change this here to read 'kdesu kpackage etc' then launching from the menu gives me a password box before launching kpackage BUT, AFTER I LOG OUT AND LOGON AGAIN it has been reset to launch kpackage in user mode, i cannot therefore personalise my menus except by editing the icon files by hand and this only lasts until i logon again, this isn't th only sort of change that gets undone but that's another story i'm using kde under lm7.2 i have always found this to be the case depite several reinstalls (for other reasons), the last reinstall was onto freshly formatted space incl. the /home partition. i would be grateful if someone could help me to personalise my menus with some certainty of those change being permanent! bascule
Re: [newbie] xinetd restart oddity
On Saturday 13 January 2001 01:45 am, you wrote: following a deperate force install of glibc 2.2 to try and compile koffice to try and obtain kpilot and the subsequent need to reinstall the system because whatever i did it trashed EVERYTHINGi can no longer access the net, my modem is correctly setup (setserial etc.) kppp is fine ( i backed up my home directory before reinstalling the system) kpp connects, i get the little symbol docked in the corner of the kde desktop but zero throughput apart from one little spike moments after the connection is apparently made to the subject line, i have discovered that doing (as root) #cd /etc/init.d #./xinetd restart gives stopping xinetd fail starting xinetd ok if i repeat this as fast as i possibly can i still get the same result, i.e in the space of time it takes to press 'return' xinetd fails, does this explain why i can't get anything through my modem? i have installed three times and each tome i go straightto connect after configuring modem and kppp and nothing, yet here i am in win98 with no problems connected on the same box, same modem, same dial up connection i have tried inetd instead of xinetd i have tried with and without routed (not sure if this is necessary for dial up ppp but i have it for my other boxes but they are out of the loop for the time being till i get this sorted) i have tried giving full 777 permisions to /dev/ttyS2 (my modem device) made no difference but then it shouldn't as i believe kppp runs pppd as root? any suggestions, i have never had to configure anything other than setserial for my internet connection before and i have install one version or other of lm quite a lot of times now so i find it hard to believe that i have failed to install some vital package. please tell me it's obvious and that a baby could fix this, i don't mind being humiliated as long as i get connected again! bascule bascule, I am not all that familiar with xinetd, but if you go to linuxconf and netconf and check nameservers, you may find that it is blank and needs your ISP addresses etc. I have found on a couple of occasions that even though I put the correct info in during install that it did not show up in the DNS nameserver config. I think if this is the case and you fix it you will connect and access the net. Hoping this helps, -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
[newbie] Earthlink and CHAP and PAP
Strange. I've been logging on to Earthlink for four years using PAP. But Tom swears by CHAP. Since things are kind of slow around here, I decided to see what would happen if I tried CHAP. It worked! Being a somewhat pragmatic guy whose interests do not include the more esoteric elements of network protocols, I've always figured that this is one of those things that is NOT TO BE QUESTIONED, else I might suffer painful injuries such as IRS audits. What's going on here? Carroll
Re: [newbie] Setting Up Secure Shell
Hi Holly, I got it running. The problem was the firewall and the hosts.deny file. I'm not sure how, cause I never edited that file before last night, but the address I was attempting to log into ssh with was listed as a host to be denied. When I changed that and then reconfigured the firewall for port 22 and ssh everything started to work just fine. It took a little digging, but I got it sorted out. thanks, -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Holly Henry-Pilkington wrote: Mark Weaver wrote: Tim, I've got all these packages installed and I'm not able to connect to my machine using ssh. When I get to the login it asks me for the passwd and then refuses the connection. Are there other files that need to be configured or something that I'm missing? Oh gosh I had that exact problem and I can't recall what I did to fix it... It seems to me that it was a combination of two things: the config and setting up my user name to allow ssh by generating an ssh key in my home dir... To do this, run ssh-keygen as the user that you want to allow to connect. Once you've done that, copy the file under your home directory /home/user/.ssh/identity.pub to /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys. Now, that last step is supposed to be for logging in without a password by using the key on both the machine you're logging in from and logging in to. I never did get that idea to work but it wasn't what I was looking for anyway. :) My guess is that it was something in one of the configuration files and I changed a few things there. I guess what I'm saying (kinda stream of consciousness here, I'm tired! grin) is that it would be most helpful to see your config file to compare it with mine then I could probably give you a pointer. It took me a LOT of trial and error, even after looking at every reference I could find out there! Holly
Re: [newbie] Setting Up Secure Shell
actually all the keys were created when I installed the packages. I really appreciated that because at the time when I was installing them I wasn't able to find any kind of documentation anywhere for this app. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Tim Holmes wrote: I agree with Holly. This took me a good 3 days with trial and error before I got this set up to work. But use her instructions, I think she's point you upon the right path. When you create your key in your .ssh/ directory, it askes you to set a passwd for it. Well it DOES not have to be the passwd for that account. You're creating a passwd for that key. So your passwd for that user account could be KICK and the passwd for your SSH key could be ASS and there will be no problems. Here's what I have in my .ssh/ directory. [timh@yoda ~/.ssh]$ ls -la total 24 drwx--2 timh timh 4096 Nov 10 12:16 ./ drwx-- 51 timh timh 4096 Jan 10 22:43 ../ -rw---1 timh timh 524 Nov 10 05:57 identity -rw-rw-r--1 timh timh 328 Nov 10 05:57 identity.pub -rw-r--r--1 timh timh 2752 Jan 7 23:03 known_hosts -rw-r--r--1 timh timh 1212 Nov 10 13:22 known_hosts2 I ssh from/into about 15 different machines. (A lot of them are at work, and require ssh or you're SOL.) So that's why I have a second known_hosts file. Not sure how many that can hold but that's why there's a second one there. Running the ssh-keygen will create the identity and identity.pub for you. If needed you can delete your identity and identity.pub and then create new ones. Unless you've set some sort of setting via command line to not allow random ssh connections, all you should have to do is then type your command. ssh -l userID machine.name.com Enter in the correct ssh passwd, which may be refered to RSA, and you should be in. palladium:~ huh RSA Found nothing in the ANS database You might want to use the -s/--searchall option Looking up "RSA" in Free OnLine Dictionary of Computing RSA cryptography, company (The initials of the authors) 1. RSA Data Security, Inc. 2. Their cryptography systems, especially RSA encryption. The RSA algorithm was first described in the paper: [R. Rivest, A. Shamir, L. Adleman, "A Method for Obtaining Digital Signatures and Public-key Cryptosystems". CACM 21,2; 1978] (1995-03-21) Try this search on OneLook / Google So I hopefully that be a bit more helpful, but Holly was on the right track. (I just like showing off by providing much more information then ever needed lol) Thanx Holly, good luck Mark. tdh -- T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.unixtechs.org/ "Real Men use Vi." * Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010110 19:30]: Tim, I've got all these packages installed and I'm not able to connect to my machine using ssh. When I get to the login it asks me for the passwd and then refuses the connection. Are there other files that need to be configured or something that I'm missing? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds REPLY BELOW
Re: [newbie] xinetd restart oddity
See: http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/November2000/article175.shtml http://www.xinetd.org http://www.macsecurity.org/resources/xinetd/tutorial.shtml - Original Message - From: "bascule" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: [newbie] xinetd restart oddity following a deperate force install of glibc 2.2 to try and compile koffice to try and obtain kpilot and the subsequent need to reinstall the system because whatever i did it trashed EVERYTHINGi can no longer access the net, my modem is correctly setup (setserial etc.) kppp is fine ( i backed up my home directory before reinstalling the system) kpp connects, i get the little symbol docked in the corner of the kde desktop but zero throughput apart from one little spike moments after the connection is apparently made to the subject line, i have discovered that doing (as root) #cd /etc/init.d #./xinetd restart gives stopping xinetd fail starting xinetd ok if i repeat this as fast as i possibly can i still get the same result, i.e in the space of time it takes to press 'return' xinetd fails, does this explain why i can't get anything through my modem? i have installed three times and each tome i go straightto connect after configuring modem and kppp and nothing, yet here i am in win98 with no problems connected on the same box, same modem, same dial up connection i have tried inetd instead of xinetd i have tried with and without routed (not sure if this is necessary for dial up ppp but i have it for my other boxes but they are out of the loop for the time being till i get this sorted) i have tried giving full 777 permisions to /dev/ttyS2 (my modem device) made no difference but then it shouldn't as i believe kppp runs pppd as root? any suggestions, i have never had to configure anything other than setserial for my internet connection before and i have install one version or other of lm quite a lot of times now so i find it hard to believe that i have failed to install some vital package. please tell me it's obvious and that a baby could fix this, i don't mind being humiliated as long as i get connected again! bascule
Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.
Doh! Right. Every time I referred to .Xclient-default in my last message, I should have said .xinitrc. Duh. Miark - Original Message - From: "Barry Premeaux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question. The man for startx says that there is a file called .xinitrc in the user's home directory that references the last xwindow session used and runs that one. If the .xinitrc is not in the user's home directory, it uses the file called xinitrc in the xinit library directory. I didn't find it in my home, but you can find it in the X11 directories, also the bash file that sets the configuration and indicates the last session settings. I was hoping to find a command option that would give me what I wanted, but haven't located that yet. I experimented some and 'startx ?' didn't give me options, but loaded up Icewm instead. I was in kde. Anyway, on with the search. Barry :-) Now I'm curious. I went to my users home directory and there is no .Xclient-default file. I don't use a graphical login... So...how does my setup (Mandrake v7.1) know to boot KDE when I type in "startx"... ;-) Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] xinetd restart oddity
thanks to robert and dennis for replies, i now have my system working using inetd (it didn't before and i have no idea what i did to make a difference!) however since xinetd was installed by the lm install when i selected samba i guess i am going to have to sort it - but not now! now all i have to do is work out why following pmfirewall's script in exactly the same way as i have done previously now prevents me from accessing the net, which is the opposite of it's intended function! it's 5.30 in the morning here and i'm halfway back to a system the way i had it before (write out a thousand times - i will NEVER AGAIN force install an rpm that doesn't want to be installed esp. a major one -glibc!) what i need is a trip to west wales to see my daughter, well what do you know it's a saturday so i get my wish -i'm rambling now so i'll say good morning to y'all bascule On Saturday 13 January 2001 04:01, you wrote: See: http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/November2000/article175.shtml http://www.xinetd.org http://www.macsecurity.org/resources/xinetd/tutorial.shtml - Original Message - From: "bascule" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: [newbie] xinetd restart oddity following a deperate force install of glibc 2.2 to try and compile koffice to try and obtain kpilot and the subsequent need to reinstall the system because whatever i did it trashed EVERYTHINGi can no longer access the net, my modem is correctly setup (setserial etc.) kppp is fine ( i backed up my home directory before reinstalling the system) kpp connects, i get the little symbol docked in the corner of the kde desktop but zero throughput apart from one little spike moments after the connection is apparently made to the subject line, i have discovered that doing (as root) #cd /etc/init.d #./xinetd restart gives stopping xinetd fail starting xinetd ok if i repeat this as fast as i possibly can i still get the same result, i.e in the space of time it takes to press 'return' xinetd fails, does this explain why i can't get anything through my modem? i have installed three times and each tome i go straightto connect after configuring modem and kppp and nothing, yet here i am in win98 with no problems connected on the same box, same modem, same dial up connection i have tried inetd instead of xinetd i have tried with and without routed (not sure if this is necessary for dial up ppp but i have it for my other boxes but they are out of the loop for the time being till i get this sorted) i have tried giving full 777 permisions to /dev/ttyS2 (my modem device) made no difference but then it shouldn't as i believe kppp runs pppd as root? any suggestions, i have never had to configure anything other than setserial for my internet connection before and i have install one version or other of lm quite a lot of times now so i find it hard to believe that i have failed to install some vital package. please tell me it's obvious and that a baby could fix this, i don't mind being humiliated as long as i get connected again! bascule
