Re: [newbie] omposer is missing from the menus: what is the command for running it?

[Amichai Rotman]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 08:27, Ramin wrote:
 After updating to the lastest version of mozilla (thanks to Charles
 Edwards), the mozilla composer is missing from the menus. In this
 situation i have to open mozilla first and from there open the file
 in the composer which make things a bit uncomfortable.
   I would like to add the mozilla composer to the menus. However i
 need to know which command runs it. Can somebody who has it listed in
 the menus telling me which command would run it? I guess you only
 need to check this only through the menu editor.
   Best regards, Ramin

Hi Ramin,

The Execute line is simple:

'/usr/bin/mozilla -edit'

without the quotes, of course.

Regards,

.::.

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Re: [newbie] Good virus program?

[_nasturtium]

Hi!

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24 am, RichardA wrote:
 To know your enemy, you must become your enemy... Keep your friends
 close and your enemies closer. - Sun Tzu

That solves an interesting problem ... the quote is used quite often in pop 
culture (e.g. Tupac, Cruel Intentions, Godfather - incidentally none of which 
I've actually viewed) and he [my brother] was wondering where the quote 
originated from.

Thanks!

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:42 am, Miark wrote:
 I tried Panda recently, and I'd have to recommend _against_ it because its
 virus definitions are almost four months old.  I couldn't find any update
 utility or any mention of updates in the pavcl man page.
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/linux.asp has a newer version 
7.0-1 available for download, it's dated February 2004. The help still 
doesn't indicate where to update the signature file, but the help on the 
heuristic scan (pavl -heu) hints that it is possible.

Anyway, it's good that companies keep Linux in mind when developing products.

Regards
_nasturtium

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Re: [newbie] Installing a linmodem

[Amichai Rotman]

On Monday 16 February 2004 19:38, Steve Kaufman wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I am trying to make my PCTEL winmodem work in MD9.2. I found the
 following page from google
 http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/pctel.html#INSTALLATION it
 talks about needing the source for LINUX in a directory
 /usr/src/LINUX. MD default installation which I am using does not
 have this directory.

 If some wonderful person on this list has a few minutes to look at
 this page and translate it for me into MD LINUX (remember I am a
 major newbie so details are really needed) that would be really
 great.

 I only want to be able to use the modem for faxing as I am on cable.

 Thanks
 Steve

Hi Steve,

All you have to do is to install the Kernel Source package:

Under a Konsole window, as root,:

urpmi kernel-source

That will install the right source for your kernel. I guess it will be 
easier to follow the instractions after it's installed.

Good Luck,
 
.::.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Mouse Pointer Behavior on Ctrl-Click

[Amichai Rotman]

On Monday 16 February 2004 04:47, Marv Boyes wrote:
 Hello, everyone. A day or two ago, I noticed an odd behavior in KDE
 3.1.3. When I hold down the Ctrl key to select multiple items, my
 mouse pointer teleports after the first couple of selections: I'll
 select something, and my pointer will suddenly appear in another,
 seemingly random part of the screen. Quite annoying, and makes for
 incorrect selections if I am not extremely careful.

 The behavior has survived restarts of KDE and my X server, as well as
 outright reboots of the machine.

 This has only been a problem for a couple of days; I've been running
 this installation of KDE since late December 2003. To my
 recollection, I haven't upgraded/reconfigured/installed/etc. anything
 related to KDE or X which might account for the glitch. Come to think
 of it, I haven't upgraded/reconfigured/installed/etc. anything
 related to KDE or X in quite some time.

 Any ideas? Thanks very much in advance.

Try changing the Style to KDE's default under the Configuration -- KDE 
-- Look and Feel -- Style.

HTH
 
.::.

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Re: [newbie] Unknown bridge resource

[Aron Smith]

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 22:58, Norbi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have Mandrake8.2. So far it was running on an old PC
 without any problem. Recently
 I purchased a new maschine and installed 8.2 again. Now
 there are one major problem:
 
 During boot Mandrake says: Unknown bridge resource:0
 Assuming transparent. I think it has something to do with
 the motherboard support since HardDrake lists a lot of
 Unknown devices from NVIDIA. Needless to say the performance
 is not as good as I expected before. The motherboard's
 parameters:
 ASUS A7N8X-X, chipset is NVIDIA nForce2 400/nForce2 MCP.
upgrade to at least 9.1 there hads been a lot of improvement.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 /Norbert
 
 
 
 
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RE: [newbie] DrakX Programmers

[R.I.Clarke C0052175]

Have already got hold of the source code and have tried to make sense of it (85Mb of 
text is overwhelming), but I will give cooker ML a try, thank you for your help


-Original Message-
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Sent:   Tue 2/17/2004 1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [newbie] DrakX Programmers

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 08:26 am, R.I.Clarke C0052175 wrote:
 Hi,

 Im currently undertaking a project in which I need to understand the file
 structure of DrakX, (i.e. which file calls upon another file). Can somebody
 put me in touch with a person who has had a lot to do with the development
 of DrakX and could answer such questions.

The cooker ML is a much better place to ask such a question because that is 
where the developers hang out.  You might also have a look directly at the 
source code which is kept at cvs.mandrakesoft.com.
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Re: [newbie] Good virus program?

[Aron Smith]

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 05:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 03:06 am, _nasturtium wrote:
 -Hi!
 -
 -On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24 am, RichardA wrote:
 - To know your enemy, you must become your enemy... Keep your friends
 - close and your enemies closer. - Sun Tzu
 -
 -That solves an interesting problem ... the quote is used quite often in
  pop -culture (e.g. Tupac, Cruel Intentions, Godfather - incidentally none
  of which -I've actually viewed) and he [my brother] was wondering where the
  quote -originated from.
 -
 -Thanks!
 
 I'd go further and highly recommend that you get this book, The Art of War 
 and read it from cover to cover. Highly recommended!  :-)
That and  The Prince by Machavelli


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[newbie] RE: First 2.6 Beta

[Tony S. Sykes]

Steven,

Is not the fedora core for people and not business (and not really Red Hat at all)? If 
this is the case, then Mandrake does do a Corporate Server and does include server 
software for business in it's normal releases. Admittedly MDK Corporate Server is not 
in 2.6 beta, then on the other hand neither is Red Hat's corporate offering's. All 
Linux press is good, but sometimes not so big Distributions miss out. Please peruse 
the MDK web site and you will see it is aimed for people and business.

Thanks,

Tony.

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From: Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:05 PM
To: Tony S. Sykes
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: First 2.6 Beta


On 17 Feb 2004 at 14:43, Tony S. Sykes wrote:

 Steven,
 
 Just a quick note to say that Mandrake is on it's first RC using a 2.6
 kernel and has been through 2 beta's already. As you have not
 mentioned this in your article First Major Linux 2.6 Beta Distribution
 Arrives (http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1527943,00.asp) are you
 not classing Mandrake as a Major Dist, or was it just an oversight?
 
At eWeek our audience is made up of people in business, for them, Red 
Hat's a major distribution and Mandrake, which aims to be a Linux for 
the people, isn't. 

Steven
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Re: [newbie]

[Carroll Grigsby]

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[newbie] FW: First 2.6 Beta

[Tony S. Sykes]

-Original Message-
From: Tony S. Sykes 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:34 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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Steven,

Thanks for your views, and your prompt responses.

Thanks,

Tony.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:29 PM
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On 17 Feb 2004 at 15:13, Tony S. Sykes wrote:

 Steven,
 
 Is not the fedora core for people and not business (and not really Red
 Hat at all)?

In practice, Fedora is the beta for RHES, and that's how both Red Hat 
and my audience seee it.

 If this is the case, then Mandrake does do a Corporate
 Server and does include server software for business in it's normal
 releases. Admittedly MDK Corporate Server is not in 2.6 beta, then on
 the other hand neither is Red Hat's corporate offering's.

Mandrake has none of the corporate support though needed to make it a 
significant business player. To be a serious player in the area my 
readers care about, 24x7 support, long term technical support 
contracts and the like are even more important than the the 
technology. Any Linux distribution can be turned into a business 
distribution, but to be taken seriously by business requires far more 
than just technology.

 All Linux
 press is good, but sometimes not so big Distributions miss out. Please
 peruse the MDK web site and you will see it is aimed for people and
 business.
 
Now, Mandrake does appear to be heading in that direction, but when I 
last talked to them their focus was 90% on the personal Linux market. 
That's fine, that's great, but that's not the kind of Linux company 
my readers care about. I am keeping an eye on Mandrake and if they 
take the business side a step or two more seriously, I'll be writing 
a story about them with a title like:

Mandrake Moves into Business Linux Market

or some such.

Steven
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Re: [newbie] Updated Spamassassin lost Software in MCC

[Charlie Mahan]

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Monday 16 February 2004 11:47 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
whack

 Thanks Charlie, rpmdrake and rpm were the two I had not recovered yet.
 Thanks for the help. Do not know why I can not remember rpmdrake, must be a
 mental block there. Anyhoo, thanks again.

We all have occasional brain farts Dennis. g

You're welcome.

Charlie
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08:38:43 up 2 days, 20:59, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.26, 0.23
Tell the truth or trump--but get the trick.
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Re: [newbie]

[Lanman]

Carroll; You forgot to mention the part about how he has to
buy us all a beer too ! GRIN! Don't ya just HATE being the
new GUY ??

Don't worry! Be happy! Oh, you already are happy. My bad!

Welcome to at least one list Happy !

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Re: [newbie] Good virus program?

[Lanman]

On 2/17/2004 at 6:58 AM Aron Smith wrote:

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 05:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 03:06 am, _nasturtium wrote:
 -Hi!
 -
 -On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24 am, RichardA wrote:


 I'd go further and highly recommend that you get this
book, The Art of
War 
 and read it from cover to cover. Highly recommended!
:-)
That and  The Prince by Machavelli

What is this? You guys turning Artsy-Fartsy on me? What
about the classics? Eh? Like those dogs playing poker?
Anyone thought about those ? Yeah! See? Forgot about them
didn't ya?


Busted!

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Re: [newbie] Same CD problem all over again!

[Amichai Rotman]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 15:52, TheViking wrote:
 Ugh.. This really is beginning to annoy me. I've tried three
 different distro's now (Lindows, RedHat  Mandrake) and im back to
 Mandrake. Only problem is, whenever I try and access my HP 8100+
 CD-RW drive it crashes the desktop and takes around 15 minutes to pop
 up a window displaying its contents. For that same CD, it will be ok,
 opening in half a second or so and behaving properly. As soon as I
 put a different CD in and try to access it, it crashes the desktop
 again (All mount icons etc) and takes around 15 mins to recover. I
 had discussed this issue with another person on here before but I've
 lost his e-mail, and further help would have been great. Does ANYONE
 know how I can fix this?

Viking,

First - you have to relax... :-)

Second - Please send us therelevant line from the /etc/fstab file, so we 
can make sure what are he settings for the CD-RW.

And, as always, havve a look at the /var/log/messages file, you might 
find a clue there...

HTH,
 
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Re: [newbie] Unknown bridge resource

[B McKee]

On Tuesday, February 17, 2004, at 01:58  AM, Norbi wrote:

Hi,

I have Mandrake8.2. So far it was running on an old PC
without any problem. Recently
I purchased a new maschine and installed 8.2 again. Now
there are one major problem:
During boot Mandrake says: Unknown bridge resource:0
Assuming transparent. I think it has something to do with
the motherboard support since HardDrake lists a lot of
Unknown devices from NVIDIA. Needless to say the performance
is not as good as I expected before. The motherboard's
parameters:
ASUS A7N8X-X, chipset is NVIDIA nForce2 400/nForce2 MCP.
Thanks in advance,
/Norbert
I have an nForce2 board as well.  To get things working nicely
(including on-board sound and ethernet in my case) it requires drivers 
from nVidia.
Be careful not to confuse the board drivers with the video drivers
or things could get confusing :-)

Start here and read carefully.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0261.html
I believe there are older Mandrake rpms but don't be afraid to
rebuild the .src file not.

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Re: [newbie] Install and than no desktop Why???

[Christophe Rhein]

Hello,

Thanks for your help but why does the desktop change like this?
I went to the link you gave me at the bottom of your mail but I didn't get it!
What shall I do to limit the damage?
Thank you
Christophe

Le Lundi 16 Fvrier 2004 12:13, Derek Jennings a crit :
 On Monday 16 Feb 2004 9:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I installed some packages from the Mandrake 9.2 discovery pack and then
  most of my desktop is gone... The menus are changed, softares are gone
  and I can not access as root. What shall I do?
  Same thing happend when I tried to install my printer driver.
  Thak you for your help
  Christophe

 Hit Ctl+Alt+F1  to get a text console. Log in as root
 update-menus -v
 will restore your menus
 Ctl+Alt+F7 takes you back to X
 Your menus will now work OK

 Visit http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
 Define yourself urpmi sources for 'updates' 'contrib', and 'plf'
 Run your Mandrake Update GUI to get the latest updates.
 In particular make sure you update the 'rpm' package, or else you will lose
 your menus again.

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[newbie] wlan connection applet?

[Marc Resnick]

Does anyone know a good Wi-Fi connection monitor for KDE?

TIA,
Marc


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Re: [newbie] wlan connection applet?

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 18:38, Marc Resnick wrote:
 Does anyone know a good Wi-Fi connection monitor for KDE?

 TIA,
 Marc

well if your wifi is up and running there's etherape that'll show traffic 
through wlan0.
Otherwise there's kwifimanager which doesn't really monitor but gives an 
indication. Never liked it though.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Good virus program?

[Richard Urwin]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 1:55 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 03:06 am, _nasturtium wrote:
 -Hi!
 -
 -On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24 am, RichardA wrote:
 - To know your enemy, you must become your enemy... Keep your
 friends - close and your enemies closer. - Sun Tzu
 -
 -That solves an interesting problem ... the quote is used quite
 often in pop -culture (e.g. Tupac, Cruel Intentions, Godfather -
 incidentally none of which -I've actually viewed) and he [my
 brother] was wondering where the quote -originated from.
 -
 -Thanks!

 I'd go further and highly recommend that you get this book, The Art
 of War and read it from cover to cover. Highly recommended!  :-)

It's on Project Gutenberg, but it doesn't have any covers.
http://www.gutenberg.net/browse/BIBREC/BR132.HTM

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Re: [newbie] wlan connection applet?

[GV]

any good place with Mandrake RPMs to download them?

Thanks

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 18:56, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 18:38, Marc Resnick wrote:
  Does anyone know a good Wi-Fi connection monitor for KDE?
 
  TIA,
  Marc
 
 well if your wifi is up and running there's etherape that'll show traffic 
 through wlan0.
 Otherwise there's kwifimanager which doesn't really monitor but gives an 
 indication. Never liked it though.
 
 Good luck,
 HarM


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Re: [newbie] Good virus program?

[Richard Urwin]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 2:58 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 That and  The Prince by Machavelli
http://www.gutenberg.net/browse/BIBREC/BR1232.HTM
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Re: [newbie] Install and than no desktop Why???

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 6:11 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:



 Le Lundi 16 Fvrier 2004 12:13, Derek Jennings a crit :
  On Monday 16 Feb 2004 9:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I installed some packages from the Mandrake 9.2 discovery pack and then
   most of my desktop is gone... The menus are changed, softares are gone
   and I can not access as root. What shall I do?
   Same thing happend when I tried to install my printer driver.
   Thak you for your help
   Christophe
 
  Hit Ctl+Alt+F1  to get a text console. Log in as root
  update-menus -v
  will restore your menus
  Ctl+Alt+F7 takes you back to X
  Your menus will now work OK
 
  Visit http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
  Define yourself urpmi sources for 'updates' 'contrib', and 'plf'
  Run your Mandrake Update GUI to get the latest updates.
  In particular make sure you update the 'rpm' package, or else you will
  lose your menus again.
 
  derek
 Hello,

 Thanks for your help but why does the desktop change like this?
 I went to the link you gave me at the bottom of your mail but I didn't get
 it! What shall I do to limit the damage?
 Thank you
 Christophe

Its a bug!
The rpm package on the update mirror fixes it, but in order to get the update 
you have to define an update source. That 'Easy urpmi' page gives you the 
instruction to define a source.

Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
Tick the boxes for 'contrib', 'updates', and 'plf' and choose a mirror from 
the drop down list for each one. Press the button and you will see three 
command line commands to be entered.

To save you the trouble here are the commands to use :-

urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with 
../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz


urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/9.2 with 
hdlist.cz


urpmi.addmedia --update updates 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ with 
../base/hdlist.cz

(Each of these 3 commands is on a single line)

To enter the commands open a terminal window and type su enter to become 
root user. Then copy/paste the first command into the terminal by 
highlighting with the mouse to copy to clipboard and press the mouse wheel to 
paste.
So long as you are online you will then see a file being downloaded which is a 
database of the contents of the online software repository.

Repeat for the other 2 sources.
You can then run Mandrake Update GUI to get your updates, or the Mandrake 
Install GUI to install software from the online sources.
The 'contrib' source has 100's of applications not on your CDs, and the 'plf' 
source contains all those packages that are illegal in certain countries with 
weird laws.

This French language guide may help you
http://www.zebulon.org.uk/urpmi_fr.html


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Re: [newbie] wlan connection applet?

[Marc Resnick]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 12:56 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 18:38, Marc Resnick wrote:
  Does anyone know a good Wi-Fi connection monitor for KDE?
 
  TIA,
  Marc

 well if your wifi is up and running there's etherape that'll show traffic
 through wlan0.
 Otherwise there's kwifimanager which doesn't really monitor but gives an
 indication. Never liked it though.

 Good luck,
 HarM

Thanks,
The kwifimanager was actually exactly what I needed. I've been having trouble 
connecting to the access point lately, so I like to see my connection status 
easily without have to ifwconfig or etherape.

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[newbie] KDE Apps?

[Amichai Rotman]

Hi All,

Where could I find apps for KDE? Prefferably pre-compiled for MDK 9.2.

I am also looking for an app to install .deb packages on an RPM system. 

Can any of you point me?

Thanks,

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[newbie] Linux and Publisher?

[Christophe Rhein]

Hello,

I have a lot of MS Publisher 98 files. Is there a way to use them under Linux 
and if yes with witch sofware?
If not is there a equivalent linux software ?
Thank you
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[newbie] Notebook Compaq nx9005

[Christophe Rhein]

Me again...
Until I finished my setup on the notebook I will have more questions...
1. When I turn of my notebook under linux I have to press the power button to 
shut it completely down. Is there a simple way to do it?
2. Is there a way to get the power indicator on the task bar like on XP?
3. Is it possible to use the 5 specific buttons on the Compaq nx9005 notebook? 
(e-mail, internet, help...)
Thank you
Christophe

ps: Right now there is the knoppix CD and Mandrake 9.2 discovery available in 
2 Turkish computer magazines...


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[newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Christophe Rhein]

Hello,
I have a old 200 MMX desktop with 32 MB of ram. Is there a way to install 
Linux and Openoffice on it?
I tried Knoppix on it but it is very slow (from the cd-rom) and Mandrake 9.2 
discovery needs a more powerfull machine.
I'm a beginner with linux so I have limited knoledge how to do it.
Thank you
Christophe


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[newbie] Wlan0 not showing up with new kernel

[Marc Resnick]

I recently compiled and installed a new kernel so ACPI would work. 

Good News: ACPI works wonderfully.

Bad News: Linux isn't recognizing device wlan0. Ifup wlan0 does nothing. 
Service network restart says that it's bringing up device wlan0, but it still 
doesn't show up in ifconfig. iwconfig also shows no wlan0.

Oh, and my sound doesn't work either. It says something about not being able 
to access /dev at startup. But now that I think of it, I'm going to go check 
the permissions on it. I doubt that's the problem though.

Any help would be great,
Marc


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Re: [newbie] Install and than no desktop Why???

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 18:07, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Its a bug!
 The rpm package on the update mirror fixes it, but in order to get
 the update you have to define an update source. That 'Easy urpmi'
 page gives you the instruction to define a source.

 Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

You may not be able to get that site - if not go to 
http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/ where you will see the same facility.

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Re: [newbie] KDE Apps?

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 18:21, Amichai Rotman wrote:
 Hi All,

 Where could I find apps for KDE? Prefferably pre-compiled for MDK
 9.2.

Do you have a good set of Sources set up for urpmi?  If not, go to 
http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/ where you will get help to set them 
up.  Once that is done, using the gui Software Installer in Mandrake 
Control Center will allow you to browse a long list of available 
apps, many of them specifically for kde.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and Publisher?

[deedee]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:23:22, Christophe Rhein wrote:

I have a lot of MS Publisher 98 files. Is there a way to use them under Linux 
and if yes with witch sofware?
If not is there a equivalent linux software ?
Thank you
Christophe

You might try wine. Wine usually runs MS software fairly well. 
I don't personally know about Publisher, however.

For DTP, I use both LyX (LaTeX/TeX) and Scribus.

LyX is basically a user-friendly front-end (text editor) to LaTeX/TeX. 
Although LaTeX/TeX is considered primarily useful for producing 
technical and academic documents, the number of packages is fairly 
extensive and includes stuff which can be easily used for nontechnical 
DTP production.

Scribus is the Linux equivalent of Adobe's Indesign, Pagemaker, 
or Quark Xpress. A feature of Scribus that I use a lot is its ability 
to produce the interactive PDF forms that one would normally need the 
full Adobe Acrobat to produce. The full Adobe Acrobat has not been 
ported to the Linux platform, only the Reader has been.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19:22, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a old 200 MMX desktop with 32 MB of ram. Is there a way to
 install Linux and Openoffice on it?
 I tried Knoppix on it but it is very slow (from the cd-rom) and
 Mandrake 9.2 discovery needs a more powerfull machine.
 I'm a beginner with linux so I have limited knoledge how to do it.
 Thank you
 Christophe

64MB ram is said to be the minimum for installation of 9.x.  Mdk 7 
would install, I believe, and 8.x may do.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and Publisher?

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19:23, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a lot of MS Publisher 98 files. Is there a way to use them
 under Linux and if yes with witch sofware?
 If not is there a equivalent linux software ?
 Thank you
 Christophe

The options are (in order of cost)
Wine - free, but good for a limited number of applications
Win4Lin - not very expensive, and has excellent support, but only runs 
windows98 and me versions.
VMWare - very expensive, but runs almost everything.

There is also CrossOverOffice from the Wine team - it's not free, but 
I don't know the price.  It is aimed specifically at running MSOffice 
and related apps.

I would say that your best bet is to try to contact the support team 
for both win4lin and xoverOffice and ask if Publisher runs on their 
software.  I think it will almost certainly run on both if it is a 98 
version.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and Publisher?

[Paul]

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 21:23, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a lot of MS Publisher 98 files. Is there a way to use them under Linux 
 and if yes with witch sofware?
 If not is there a equivalent linux software ?
 Thank you
 Christophe
 
 

The WINE database site reports that 2002 version of Publisher runs under
WINE, but won't save as HTML (does the MS version?). No reports of other
versions, but should be OK.

As it's free won't cost anything to try (except time, of course)

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Re: [newbie] Can't print/send link/page with Mozilla

[Ray Hogaboom]

Hi
As a Linux newbie this sound like very useful info that may help me with the 
problem I am having with wine. 

But how would I look for open files?
I most likely can kill them after reading the man help for kill.

Thanks for your help

Ray Hogaboom

On Tue February 17 2004 5:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

 Most likely Mozilla left something running when it was closed -
 possibly after something crashed?  Anyway, try closing Mozilla, then
 looking for open Mozilla files.  If you find any, kill them, then
 restart Moz.  Good luck

 Anne


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Re: [newbie] KDE Apps?

[Paul]

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 20:21, Amichai Rotman wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Where could I find apps for KDE? Prefferably pre-compiled for MDK 9.2.
 
 I am also looking for an app to install .deb packages on an RPM system. 
 
 Can any of you point me?
 
 Thanks,
 
 .::.
 
 Amichai Rotman

Check out Alien at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/

Alien is a program that converts between the rpm, dpkg, stampede slp,
and slackware tgz file formats. If you want to use a package from
another distribution than the one you have installed on your system, you
can use alien to convert it to your preferred package format and install
it.

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Re: [newbie] Can't print/send link/page with Mozilla

[Paul]

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 18:42, Ray Hogaboom wrote:
 Hi
 As a Linux newbie this sound like very useful info that may help me with the 
 problem I am having with wine. 
 
 But how would I look for open files?
 I most likely can kill them after reading the man help for kill.
 
 Thanks for your help
 
 Ray Hogaboom
 

In a terminal type 'ps -A' to get a list of running applications.

Type 'kill ' ( is the number you see under ps -A

Paul M


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Re: [newbie] Wlan0 not showing up with new kernel

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19:40, Marc Resnick wrote:
 I recently compiled and installed a new kernel so ACPI would work.

Which one?


 Good News: ACPI works wonderfully.

 Bad News: Linux isn't recognizing device wlan0. Ifup wlan0 does nothing.
 Service network restart says that it's bringing up device wlan0, but it
 still doesn't show up in ifconfig. iwconfig also shows no wlan0.

Check if the module is loading OK using 'lsmod' as command. If it isn't try 
loading it manually with insmod your_module_here.

If it's there open a terminal type tail -f /var/log/messages and in another 
terminal service network restart and look for error messages as to why it 
isn't coming up.

There should probably also be error messages in dmesg (that's the command 
you type) as well if the modules failed.
 

 Oh, and my sound doesn't work either. It says something about not being
 able to access /dev at startup. But now that I think of it, I'm going to go
 check the permissions on it. I doubt that's the problem though.

dmesg again;)

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Christoph Eckert]

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Hi,

 I have a old 200 MMX desktop with 32 MB of ram

200MMX is slow but must work.

The prob are 32MB RAM - this is definitely too less for 
knoppix (which tries to completely run in the RAM) and 
OpenOffice - sorry, forget it. Add at least further 64MB and 
it shoulod be OK.


Gruß / regards


ce

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Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Happy]

- Original Message - 
From: Christophe Rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: liste linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?


 Hello,
 I have a old 200 MMX desktop with 32 MB of ram. Is there a way to install
 Linux and Openoffice on it?
 I tried Knoppix on it but it is very slow (from the cd-rom) and Mandrake
9.2
 discovery needs a more powerfull machine.
 I'm a beginner with linux so I have limited knoledge how to do it.
 Thank you
 Christophe









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Christophe,
I would recommend getting at least 64 megabytes of memory...
If you are using a older Pentium Board... it is likey, that you have two
16 megabyte, 72 pin simms.
You might have two empty memory slots open on your motherboard,
if so, you could put 2 more 16 meg' 72 pin simms in it, for a new total of
64 megs'
You have to install 72 pin simm memory in pairs
64 megs is what I have in my Pentium board... I don't know what you are
using for a video card, but I'm using a
ATI Radeon PCI card that has 32 megs' of memory on it.
I was using a Pentium @ 200 MHZ for a while with Mandrake 9.2, and it ran
nicely..
I recently upgraded that cpu to a Evergeen Spectra 400 , it's a AMD K6-2 cpu
with a voltage converter,
that will make it compatible with the socket 7 slot that is on your current
pentium motherboard..
The speed is close to a Pentium 2 @ 500 MHZ now, and it's even more happy.
:-)
Check it out at: http://www.evertech.com/category.cfm?Category=27

Hope all of this isn't too much..LOL  ;-)
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[newbie] Witch package to update???

[Christophe Rhein]

Hello,
I followed your instruction (I didn't understand a thing but it worked)
What I don't get is this

 You can then run Mandrake Update GUI to get your updates, or the Mandrake
 Install GUI to install software from the online sources.
 The 'contrib' source has 100's of applications not on your CDs, and the
 'plf' source contains all those packages that are illegal in certain
 countries with weird laws.
What I did:
I opened the RpmDrake 9.2 and I selected the buggs. But witch one solves the 
desktop bug??
Thank you
Christophe


Le Mardi 17 Fvrier 2004 19:07, Derek Jennings a crit :
 On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 6:11 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:
  Le Lundi 16 Fvrier 2004 12:13, Derek Jennings a crit :
   On Monday 16 Feb 2004 9:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
   
I installed some packages from the Mandrake 9.2 discovery pack and
then most of my desktop is gone... The menus are changed, softares
are gone and I can not access as root. What shall I do?
Same thing happend when I tried to install my printer driver.
Thak you for your help
Christophe
  
   Hit Ctl+Alt+F1  to get a text console. Log in as root
   update-menus -v
   will restore your menus
   Ctl+Alt+F7 takes you back to X
   Your menus will now work OK
  
   Visit http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
   Define yourself urpmi sources for 'updates' 'contrib', and 'plf'
   Run your Mandrake Update GUI to get the latest updates.
   In particular make sure you update the 'rpm' package, or else you will
   lose your menus again.
  
   derek
 
  Hello,
 
  Thanks for your help but why does the desktop change like this?
  I went to the link you gave me at the bottom of your mail but I didn't
  get it! What shall I do to limit the damage?
  Thank you
  Christophe

 Its a bug!
 The rpm package on the update mirror fixes it, but in order to get the
 update you have to define an update source. That 'Easy urpmi' page gives
 you the instruction to define a source.

 Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
 Tick the boxes for 'contrib', 'updates', and 'plf' and choose a mirror from
 the drop down list for each one. Press the button and you will see three
 command line commands to be entered.

 To save you the trouble here are the commands to use :-

 urpmi.addmedia contrib
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with
 ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz


 urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/9.2
 with hdlist.cz


 urpmi.addmedia --update updates
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/
 with ../base/hdlist.cz

 (Each of these 3 commands is on a single line)

 To enter the commands open a terminal window and type su enter to become
 root user. Then copy/paste the first command into the terminal by
 highlighting with the mouse to copy to clipboard and press the mouse wheel
 to paste.
 So long as you are online you will then see a file being downloaded which
 is a database of the contents of the online software repository.

 Repeat for the other 2 sources.
 You can then run Mandrake Update GUI to get your updates, or the Mandrake
 Install GUI to install software from the online sources.
 The 'contrib' source has 100's of applications not on your CDs, and the
 'plf' source contains all those packages that are illegal in certain
 countries with weird laws.

 This French language guide may help you
 http://www.zebulon.org.uk/urpmi_fr.html


 derek


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[newbie] error message with rpmdrake

[Christophe Rhein]

Hello,

I'm updating with rpmdrake some buggs and I get this error message:

medium contrib uses a invalid list file: mirror is probably not up to date, 
trying to use alternate methode

And then when I click OK nothing happens...
What is wrong
Christophe


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[newbie] Problems with wine

[Ray Hogaboom]

Hi
I sure could use some help.
I am a long time MS-Windows user but new to Linux.  I have not been able to 
find any Application that will run in under Mandrake Linux 9.2 that will 
replace the my 2 most important MS-Window apps. These are AuctionTamer I use 
this to manage my eBay Auctions, and DesignCAD a 3D CAD program used for 
drawing home remodeling, Cabinets and a host of other building project plans.

After installing Mandrake Linux 9.2 I used rpmdrake to install Wine. But I was 
thinking that some thing went wrong with this install. After starting wine I 
clicked on help but the help files could not be found. Then after reading the 
Doc's on wine web page it could not find files where the Doc's said they 
should be. After using a file search tool I did find most of the files but in 
different directories. 

I then used rpmdrake Software Package Removal to remove wine. Then downloaded  
wine-cvs-glibc23-opengl-20040215-1.i586.rpm From http://wine.dataparty.no/  
This would give me the latest version of wine. Then used 
http://wine.dataparty.no/install.html  instruction.

Step 5 said 
The next step is to make sure everything is working as it should. First, just 
try starting wine:
 
 $ wine -v
 
 If wine displays the version number, say 'Wine release 20011226' or something 
similar, you should be ready to try some real Windows apps. 

My Problem this is the message I get

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ray]$ wine -v
wine client error:2b: version mismatch 118/131.
Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ray]$

How do I fix this?

Thanks for your help I have many other question but these will be asked later

Ray Hogaboom
My Hardware
   Motherboard: Abit BH6 
   RAM : 218 MB
   CPU : Pentium !!! (Katmal} - 450 MHz BIOS set to turbo running at 461.2
   Connection : DSL ISP=SBC Global
   Hard disk : 10 GB Western Digital AC310100B + 1.2 GB Quantum FIREBALL1280A   
+ 120 GB Cypress Semiconductor USB 2.0 Ext Hard Drive
   Other Drives  Storage:  ImageMate CompactFlash USB  IOMEGA ZIP 100
   CD / DVD ROM : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-408B (disconnected causes system lock   
ups)
   Video card : Trident 3DImage985 - 2 MB
   Sound card : ESS Technology ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM) (Not 
working with this setup)
   Network : Intel(R) PRO/100+ Management Adapter + D-Link Inc. DFE 538 TX
   Modem: U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT PnP (Not working with this setup)


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Re: [newbie] Wlan0 not showing up with new kernel

[Marc Resnick]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 02:48 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19:40, Marc Resnick wrote:
  I recently compiled and installed a new kernel so ACPI would work.

 Which one?

  Good News: ACPI works wonderfully.
 
  Bad News: Linux isn't recognizing device wlan0. Ifup wlan0 does nothing.
  Service network restart says that it's bringing up device wlan0, but it
  still doesn't show up in ifconfig. iwconfig also shows no wlan0.

 Check if the module is loading OK using 'lsmod' as command. If it isn't try
 loading it manually with insmod your_module_here.

 If it's there open a terminal type tail -f /var/log/messages and in
 another terminal service network restart and look for error messages as
 to why it isn't coming up.

 There should probably also be error messages in dmesg (that's the command
 you type) as well if the modules failed.

  Oh, and my sound doesn't work either. It says something about not being
  able to access /dev at startup. But now that I think of it, I'm going to
  go check the permissions on it. I doubt that's the problem though.

 dmesg again;)

 Good luck,
 HarM


Well I found out that the problem was that the modules weren't found with the 
current kernel. So I copied all of the modules from my old kernel over to my 
new one(Don't worry, I made backups). That didn't work, it said they weren't 
recognized or something like that. So I'm guessing they're not compatible 
with 2.4.24. Is there some way to reinstall all my drivers and modules?

Oh, also, whenever I switch over from one kernel to the other to do stuff, I 
get a message, sc0 was removed and hdc was added, or vice versa. It asks me 
to run a config tool also. Any idea why this happens? I think it's related to 
the module and driver problem.

Any suggestions?
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Re: [newbie] Witch package to update???

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 8:59 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 I followed your instruction (I didn't understand a thing but it worked)
 What I don't get is this

  You can then run Mandrake Update GUI to get your updates, or the Mandrake
  Install GUI to install software from the online sources.
  The 'contrib' source has 100's of applications not on your CDs, and the
  'plf' source contains all those packages that are illegal in certain
  countries with weird laws.

 What I did:
 I opened the RpmDrake 9.2 and I selected the buggs. But which one solves
 the desktop bug??
 Thank you
 Christophe


Like I said. It was the package called 'rpm'
Yes its confusing I know, but there is an RPM package called 'rpm'

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[newbie] PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work

[Steve Kaufman]

Help please,



This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2 a couple of
weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have been very wonderfull in
helping me to overcome some very simple but perplexing problems for a newbie




This problem does not happen in windows. I can leave my machine up for days
with no problems.



Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may have to
stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I leave my pc sit
inactive for some period of time it will just lockup to where I can not even
power off the pc with the power button. I have to turn off at the surge
protector.



I have tried to isolate this to an application and have been unable to. The
only time it does not seem to happen is when I have no applications open on
my desktop. As long as the cursor is resting on the desktop not in an
application then the pc does not seem to lock up.



The only application that I have installed other than the defaut ones that
come with the 9.2 install is Thunderbird but I have also tried not running
Thunderbird after a boot to see what would happen and it still locks up. The
only applications I have really been using are. MCC functions for updates
and trying to make sure my hardware is configured correctly. I read email
both with Thunderbird and Kmail. Web browsing with Konqour.



What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem.

- I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from MCC)

- I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I can not
find a pattern.

- I have installed all updates.

- I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The logs I
look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC.



My hardware:

*  System Summary  *

  

   Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0

Processor:  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz (2500+ overclocked I
have run in at 2500 and still happens. 

I have had it at 2700 in windows forever and
no problems)

BIOS:   Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Phoenix-Award BIOS v6
00PG, 05/14/03

Bus Type:   PCI, ISA, USB

Ports:  1 Parallel, 2 Serial

Memory: 512 MB  (42% Utilized) GEIL 400MHZ PC3200

Floppy Disks:   1.44 MB

Hard Disks: 16.95 GB, 16.95 GB, 114.50 GB, 12.66 GB

Multimedia: Sound, CD-ROM

Video:  800 x 600 in 64K Colors, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ver.
6.14 128meg

LAN  3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller 

 NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller

 Operating System 

Windows:5.0 (Build 2195)

  

 IBM Enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard 



 MICROSOFT PS2 MOUSE 



 Drive C  WINDOWS drive MAXTOR

Total space in drive: 122,934,034,432 bytes (114.49 GB)

Used space: 14,998,540,288 bytes (13.97 GB)

Available space: 107,935,494,144 bytes (100.52 GB)



 Volume Information 

  File System: NTFS



D = LITEON 52x32x52 CD-RW



E= LINUX drive WDC, 13GB I think. Windows has no idea what's on here.



 Drive F  Compaq SCSI - BB01821AC3

Total space in drive: 18,202,509,312 bytes (16.95 GB)

Used space: 11,992,743,936 bytes (11.17 GB)

Available space: 6,209,765,376 bytes (5.78 GB)



 Volume Information 

  File System: NTFS



 Drive G  COMPAQ SCSI - BB018222CA

Total space in drive: 18,158,800,896 bytes (16.91 GB)

Used space: 6,830,092,288 bytes (6.36 GB)

Available space: 11,328,708,608 bytes (10.55 GB)



 Volume Information 

  File System: FAT32



Drive H = CD-R 48x



Any help would be appreciated. 

What info would be helpful from LINUX?



 

Steve

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Re: [newbie] error message with rpmdrake

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 9:07 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm updating with rpmdrake some buggs and I get this error message:

 medium contrib uses a invalid list file: mirror is probably not up to date,
 trying to use alternate methode

 And then when I click OK nothing happens...
 What is wrong
 Christophe


You are finding all the bugs today :-)

That one is caused by a file on the contrib mirror being incorrect. 
It is only a warning, you can carry on and continue to install packages and 
ignore the warning.

If you want the warning to go away permanently remove the file 
/var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib

and then edit the file  /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg and remove the line reading :-

list: list.contrib

Those files can only be edited by root user. An easy way to manage files as 
root user is to open a terminal, enter su enter to become root, then type :

konqueror 

And a konqueror file manager will run as root. To edit a file right click and 
select kedit to open the file in a text editor.

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Re: [newbie] error message with rpmdrake

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:07 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:
-Hello,
-
-I'm updating with rpmdrake some buggs and I get this error message:
-
-medium contrib uses a invalid list file: mirror is probably not up to date,
-trying to use alternate methode
-
-And then when I click OK nothing happens...
-What is wrong
-Christophe

Are you saying that it doesn't go ahead and install the RPMs after you click 
okay? If it doesn't then I don't know whats happening. Otherwise:

This is a well known bug and:

rm /var/lib/urpmi/list.media

usually fixes the problem.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 20:00, Happy wrote:
Hi, Happy - you made it :-)

 I don't know what you
 are using for a video card, but I'm using a
 ATI Radeon PCI card that has 32 megs' of memory on it.
 I was using a Pentium @ 200 MHZ for a while with Mandrake 9.2, and
 it ran nicely..

I'm curious.  What Radeon is that?  It's just that ATI cards don't 
seem to be recommended until very recent models, and we like to keep 
as much compatibility info as possible on our TWiki pages.

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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 20:46, Steve Kaufman wrote:

 Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may
 have to stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I
 leave my pc sit inactive for some period of time it will just
 lockup to where I can not even power off the pc with the power
 button. I have to turn off at the surge protector.

I'm not a gambler, but I would put my £1 on ACPI.  I've seen exactly 
the same with windows on some boxes, and I had the same problems when 
I first installed Mandrake 8.2.  Basically, it is trying to do its 
'power management' thing, and not altogether succeeding :-)

IIRC, the solution is to add acpi=off on the append line of each lilo 
stanza.  Don't forget that you have to run /sbin/lilo from a root 
console whenever you edit anything in lilo.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] error message with rpmdrake

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 20:49, Derek Jennings wrote:

 That one is caused by a file on the contrib mirror being incorrect.
 It is only a warning, you can carry on and continue to install
 packages and ignore the warning.

 If you want the warning to go away permanently remove the file
 /var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib

The easyurpmi page should offer you more than one mirror for contrib.  
I had the same problem, so I removed the mirror and selected one of 
the other mirrors - problem gone g

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Re: [newbie] Getting file size for bash backup script

[Todd Slater]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:07:36AM +1300, Sharrea Day wrote:
 Hi
 Does anyone know how to get the size of a file in a bash script?  I want to 
 compress the file with tar when the file size exceeds 10 MB but can't 
 figure out how to do it.
 
 Still googling... any help much appreciated.

You can probably do it with ls, but I like du (man du). For example

fileToTest=/home/you/growingfile
fileSize=`du -ms $fileToTest | cut -f 1` # discarding file name from
 # output
if [ $fileSize -gt 10 ] ;
then
do something
fi

I wrote a script a while back when I was just starting with bash that
might do what you're looking for (but I'd now use cut instead of calling
awk!): http://clevername.homeip.net/sizetest

HTH,
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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 22:35, David Collyer wrote:
 I am tinkering with Mandrake 10 B2 and am having a difficult time
 changing the system fonts.  I go to to the Mandrake Control Center and
 select System and then Fonts.  I am able to highlight the font I
 want, but there is not option to save or apply, and when I choose
 close no changes take place.  Can anyone assist with this very basic
 task?  I know I must just be missing something very basic.

What are you trying to do in there??
In there you can only delete or add fonts to your system not set them as 
default (or such) in any way.
Use the specific tool for the windowmanager you're using, to do that.
In KDE that would be kDEControlCenter.

Good luck,
HarM


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[newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Paul Smith]

Dear All

I am looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper to work under Linux 
and of easy installation.

Thank you a lot in advance!

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Paul]

On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 00:06, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All
 
 I am looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper to work under Linux 
 and of easy installation.
 
 Thank you a lot in advance!
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 __
Hotmail popper runs under Wine,

See http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/help/faq.html

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Re: [newbie] Linux and Publisher?

[Ray Hogaboom]

 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:23:22, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 I have a lot of MS Publisher 98 files. Is there a way to use them under
  Linux and if yes with witch sofware?
 If not is there a equivalent linux software ?
 Thank you
 Christophe

As a long time MS-Windows user I have not used MS Publisher much. But you mite 
try MS Publisher's Save As or Export to a file type that OpenOffice.org can 
use. If MS Publisher 98 will make your files into HTML files then you should 
have no problem using them in linux.

As a linux newbie Mozilla Composer looks like the program that I will be using 
for my HTML editor. 

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Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 21:43, Happy wrote:
 It's just that ATI cards don't seem to be recommended until very
 recent models
 ---
- -
 LOL :-))   Supporting older hardware should be Priority One for
 any Linux Distro...
 because that is the way to winning the desktop O.S. .. right?

 Suport Legacy Computers = Happy

 Anyway,
 Anne, there is / was a 64 meg AGP model 7200 and then PCI version
 that I have which is 32 mb model 7200...
 Can't find the 7200 pci version on Ati's web site. but here is
 the URL for the 64 Meg model...
 http://www.ati.com/products/radeon7200/index.html
 Both chipsets are the same on either the AGP or PCI cards...
 The Ati 7200 model that I have is auto detected on the install of
 Mandrake 9.2... under the driver
 just marked Radeon Also using the Accelerated version.. of
 X86free...
 Thanks for again, for the warm welcome.
 Happy (Thos Kaber)

We don't have this on the Compatibility page 
(http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ViDeo).  How do you feel 
about adding it?  Register as a user, and just make an entry at the 
top of the Radeon boards - ask if you need help.  It is very helpful 
to people who would like to try linux, but are worried about whether 
their hardware will work.

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Todd Slater]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:06:37PM +, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All
 
 I am looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper to work under Linux 
 and of easy installation.
 
 Thank you a lot in advance!

I like hotwayd myself, and lots of folks here use gotmail I think.

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Re: [newbie] Can't print/send link/page with Mozilla

[Ray Hogaboom]

Thanks Paul
This has help me solve one of my problems

Ray Hogaboom


On Tue February 17 2004 2:43 pm, Paul wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 18:42, Ray Hogaboom wrote:
  Hi
  As a Linux newbie this sound like very useful info that may help me with
  the problem I am having with wine.
 
  But how would I look for open files?
  I most likely can kill them after reading the man help for kill.
 
  Thanks for your help
 
  Ray Hogaboom

 In a terminal type 'ps -A' to get a list of running applications.

 Type 'kill ' ( is the number you see under ps -A

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[newbie] Errors in a log file

[Steve Kaufman]

I am seeing these errors when looking at my logs in MCC.

in user log. The errors are valid since the drakfont and 100dpi 
directories don't exist.

Feb 17 16:22:39 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont (unreadable)
Feb 17 16:22:39 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/Type1 (unreadable)
Feb 17 16:22:39 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/ttf (unreadable)
Feb 17 16:22:39 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled (unreadable)

Can someone enlighten me as to why I'm seeing these.

Just poking around and trying to learn

Thx
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Re: [newbie] Wlan0 not showing up with new kernel

[Marc Resnick]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:18 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 21:40, Marc Resnick wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2004 02:48 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
   On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19:40, Marc Resnick wrote:
I recently compiled and installed a new kernel so ACPI would work.
  
   Which one?
  
Good News: ACPI works wonderfully.
   
Bad News: Linux isn't recognizing device wlan0. Ifup wlan0 does
nothing. Service network restart says that it's bringing up device
wlan0, but it still doesn't show up in ifconfig. iwconfig also shows
no wlan0.
  
   Check if the module is loading OK using 'lsmod' as command. If it isn't
   try loading it manually with insmod your_module_here.
  
   If it's there open a terminal type tail -f /var/log/messages and in
   another terminal service network restart and look for error messages
   as to why it isn't coming up.
  
   There should probably also be error messages in dmesg (that's the
   command you type) as well if the modules failed.
  
Oh, and my sound doesn't work either. It says something about not
being able to access /dev at startup. But now that I think of it, I'm
going to go check the permissions on it. I doubt that's the problem
though.
  
   dmesg again;)
  
   Good luck,
   HarM
 
  Well I found out that the problem was that the modules weren't found with
  the current kernel. So I copied all of the modules from my old kernel
  over to my new one(Don't worry, I made backups). That didn't work, it
  said they weren't recognized or something like that. So I'm guessing
  they're not compatible with 2.4.24. Is there some way to reinstall all my
  drivers and modules?

 If they aren't there you'll need to install/build them ...but why aren't
 these modules there in the first place?
 Isn't it a Mandrake kernel or did you install the modules yourself in the
 prior kernel?

  Oh, also, whenever I switch over from one kernel to the other to do
  stuff, I get a message, sc0 was removed and hdc was added, or vice versa.
  It asks me to run a config tool also. Any idea why this happens? I think
  it's related to the module and driver problem.

 Not with the wifi drivers, looks more like a different setting... scsi
 versus edi. Just turn off harddrake as a service at boot and you won't be
 bothered any more:)

 Good luck,
 HarM


The sound module was already there in the prior kernel. I download the rpm for 
the wlan device, but all of the scripts are still in place, so I don't see 
why it shouldn't work.

There must be some command to install and build all of the new modules, any 
ideas?

Marc


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Re: [newbie] Wlan0 not showing up with new kernel

[Marc Resnick]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 06:01 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:18 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2004 21:40, Marc Resnick wrote:
   On Tuesday 17 February 2004 02:48 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19:40, Marc Resnick wrote:
 I recently compiled and installed a new kernel so ACPI would work.
   
Which one?
   
 Good News: ACPI works wonderfully.

 Bad News: Linux isn't recognizing device wlan0. Ifup wlan0 does
 nothing. Service network restart says that it's bringing up device
 wlan0, but it still doesn't show up in ifconfig. iwconfig also
 shows no wlan0.
   
Check if the module is loading OK using 'lsmod' as command. If it
isn't try loading it manually with insmod your_module_here.
   
If it's there open a terminal type tail -f /var/log/messages and
in another terminal service network restart and look for error
messages as to why it isn't coming up.
   
There should probably also be error messages in dmesg (that's the
command you type) as well if the modules failed.
   
 Oh, and my sound doesn't work either. It says something about not
 being able to access /dev at startup. But now that I think of it,
 I'm going to go check the permissions on it. I doubt that's the
 problem though.
   
dmesg again;)
   
Good luck,
HarM
  
   Well I found out that the problem was that the modules weren't found
   with the current kernel. So I copied all of the modules from my old
   kernel over to my new one(Don't worry, I made backups). That didn't
   work, it said they weren't recognized or something like that. So I'm
   guessing they're not compatible with 2.4.24. Is there some way to
   reinstall all my drivers and modules?
 
  If they aren't there you'll need to install/build them ...but why aren't
  these modules there in the first place?
  Isn't it a Mandrake kernel or did you install the modules yourself in the
  prior kernel?
 
   Oh, also, whenever I switch over from one kernel to the other to do
   stuff, I get a message, sc0 was removed and hdc was added, or vice
   versa. It asks me to run a config tool also. Any idea why this happens?
   I think it's related to the module and driver problem.
 
  Not with the wifi drivers, looks more like a different setting... scsi
  versus edi. Just turn off harddrake as a service at boot and you won't
  be bothered any more:)
 
  Good luck,
  HarM

 The sound module was already there in the prior kernel. I download the rpm
 for the wlan device, but all of the scripts are still in place, so I don't
 see why it shouldn't work.

 There must be some command to install and build all of the new modules, any
 ideas?

 Marc

Scratch that. Both were already there. The wlan0 device uses the prism2_cs 
module, which comes with mdk linux. 


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Re: [newbie] error message with rpmdrake

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 18 Feb 2004 3:26 am, Job Evers wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:08:19 +

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The easyurpmi page should offer you more than one mirror for contrib.
  I had the same problem, so I removed the mirror and selected one of
  the other mirrors - problem gone g
 
  Anne

 Any suggestions on which mirror to choose?  I've gone through a bunch and
 keep getting the same error.

I should not say this, but the rediris mirror in Spain is great.
It is never congested and has really high throughput. Trouble is, if I keep 
telling people about it, it will become as bad as the others.

derek


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Re: [newbie] No rpm package in my list

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 10:28 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:
 Hello.
 Well I'm sorry to go back with this but I have no rpm package on my list in
 rpmdrake
 What shall I do?
 Bye
 Christophe


Then you have already installed it. No problem

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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work

[Bryan Phinney]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:48 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
 Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 03:46 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
 What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem.
 - I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from MCC)
 - I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I can not
 find a pattern.
 - I have installed all updates.
 - I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The logs I
 look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC.
 
 Do you have ACPI enabled with the daemons loaded?  Is it possible that the
 computer is trying to enter sleep mode due to inactivity?  Cause, if your
 computer is trying to enter sleep mode, it needs to write a temporary file
 with the contents of memory to the drive, if there is less than the
  necessary space, the computer will lock.
 
 Personally, I have always had VERY bad luck with ACPI on Linux in any form
 with any machine.  I always disable ACPI from the LILO options and refrain
 from installing any of the daemons.
 
 
 
 
 
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 How do I check to ensure the daemons are not running?  here is a ps -A
 output. Is that where I would see it?
snipped
  1652 ?00:00:00 apmd

Here is apmd which is the advanced power management daemon.  That should mean 
that you are running apm rather than acpi which should be a good sign.

I have heard of some people running both but never with good results.

I don't see acpid which is the process we should see if you are running the 
acpi daemons.
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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work

[Bryan Phinney]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:48 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:

You might want to take a look at syslog to see what it says just prior to your 
hard booting the system after it locks.
 
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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Paul Smith]

Hotmail popper runs under Wine,
Indeed, Hotmail Popper runs under Wine. Unfortunately, the connection to 
127.0.0.1 is refused. Could somebody here please help me with overcoming 
this difficulty?

Thank you a lot in advance!

Paul

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Re: [newbie]

[Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:22 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 01:49 am, Happy wrote:
  subscribe newbie
  subscribe expert

 Happy:
 This won't work. The correct way to subscribe is to send
 separate emails as follows:
If he didn't subscribe right, how was he supposed to see 
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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 11:39 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
 Hotmail popper runs under Wine,

 Indeed, Hotmail Popper runs under Wine. Unfortunately, the connection to
 127.0.0.1 is refused. Could somebody here please help me with overcoming
 this difficulty?

 Thank you a lot in advance!

 Paul

Ermm  Why not use  Windows Applications under Windows, and  Linux applications 
under Linux? Gotmail works just fine for me 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gotmail/

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Re: [newbie]

[Paul]

On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 01:43, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:22 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2004 01:49 am, Happy wrote:
   subscribe newbie
   subscribe expert
 
  Happy:
  This won't work. The correct way to subscribe is to send
  separate emails as follows:
 If he didn't subscribe right, how was he supposed to see 
 that? ;)

But he had to be subscribed right to send the email to subscribe to the
groups, so he could read it.

I think.

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[newbie] Switch Window Managers

[Job Evers]

I am debating changing from KDE/Gnome to some other, lighter, window manager.  If you 
ever wanted a chance to brag up your favorite window manager now is the time.  I don't 
know what options exists, nor do I know the advantages of one over another.  The more 
input the better.

If/when I do decide to switch, I'll probably be back asking how to install it.

Cheers,

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Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?

[Happy]

- Original Message - 
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and 200 MMX?


 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 21:43, Happy wrote:
  It's just that ATI cards don't seem to be recommended until very
  recent models
  ---
 - -
  LOL :-))   Supporting older hardware should be Priority One for
  any Linux Distro...
  because that is the way to winning the desktop O.S. .. right?
 
  Suport Legacy Computers = Happy
 
  Anyway,
  Anne, there is / was a 64 meg AGP model 7200 and then PCI version
  that I have which is 32 mb model 7200...
  Can't find the 7200 pci version on Ati's web site. but here is
  the URL for the 64 Meg model...
  http://www.ati.com/products/radeon7200/index.html
  Both chipsets are the same on either the AGP or PCI cards...
  The Ati 7200 model that I have is auto detected on the install of
  Mandrake 9.2... under the driver
  just marked Radeon Also using the Accelerated version.. of
  X86free...
  Thanks for again, for the warm welcome.
  Happy (Thos Kaber)

 We don't have this on the Compatibility page
 (http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ViDeo).  How do you feel
 about adding it?  Register as a user, and just make an entry at the
 top of the Radeon boards - ask if you need help.  It is very helpful
 to people who would like to try linux, but are worried about whether
 their hardware will work.

 Anne
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   Anne,
I registered and posted the new entry on TWiki  Main 
HardwareCompatibility  ViDeolist,
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Re: [newbie] Switch Window Managers

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 18 Feb 2004 6:03 am, Job Evers wrote:
 I am debating changing from KDE/Gnome to some other, lighter, window
 manager.  If you ever wanted a chance to brag up your favorite window
 manager now is the time.  I don't know what options exists, nor do I know
 the advantages of one over another.  The more input the better.

 If/when I do decide to switch, I'll probably be back asking how to install
 it.

 Cheers,

 Job

I used to favour fluxbox. (In contrib), but I will bring joy to Joe Hills 
heart by saying that I now prefer pekwm.( No Mandrake RPMS unfortunately, but 
source here http://pekwm.org/ 

It is FAST FAST FAST, and the tabbed windows are cool.
Combine pekwm with rox (RPMS in contrib), and in my opinion you have a great 
desktop for a low end computer.
http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer

My pekwm desktop screenshot is here
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?set_albumName=linux05id=pekwmop=modloadname=Galleryfile=indexinclude=view_photo.php

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Paul Smith]

 Indeed, Hotmail Popper runs under Wine. Unfortunately, the connection to
 127.0.0.1 is refused. Could somebody here please help me with overcoming
 this difficulty?
Ermm  Why not use  Windows Applications under Windows, and  Linux 
applications
under Linux? Gotmail works just fine for me
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gotmail/
Derek,

Because, it seems that Gotmail does not allow to send e-mails from Hotmail 
accounts. It only allows Hotmail mail download. Am I right?

Paul

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Re: [newbie]

[Happy]

- Original Message - 
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie]


 On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 01:43, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:22 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   On Tuesday 17 February 2004 01:49 am, Happy wrote:
subscribe newbie
subscribe expert
  
   Happy:
   This won't work. The correct way to subscribe is to send
   separate emails as follows:
  If he didn't subscribe right, how was he supposed to see
  that? ;)

 But he had to be subscribed right to send the email to subscribe to the
 groups, so he could read it.

 I think.

 Paul M



I'm all set Paul M... Anne and also Carol helped me out, I resent my
subscribe req to the mail list server...

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Re: [newbie] Good virus program?

[Aron Smith]

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 07:53, Lanman wrote:
 On 2/17/2004 at 6:58 AM Aron Smith wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 05:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2004 03:06 am, _nasturtium wrote:
  -Hi!
  -
  -On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24 am, RichardA wrote:
 
 
  I'd go further and highly recommend that you get this
 book, The Art of
 War 
  and read it from cover to cover. Highly recommended!
 :-)
 That and  The Prince by Machavelli
 
 What is this? You guys turning Artsy-Fartsy on me? What
 about the classics? Eh? Like those dogs playing poker?
 Anyone thought about those ? Yeah! See? Forgot about them
 didn't ya?
Nah any fool can se that the bulldog is drawing to an inside strieght
 
 
 Busted!
 
 Lanman g
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] KDE Apps?

[Aron Smith]

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 10:21, Amichai Rotman wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Where could I find apps for KDE? Prefferably pre-compiled for MDK 9.2.
 
 I am also looking for an app to install .deb packages on an RPM system. 
 
 Can any of you point me?
did you try KDE.org ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 .::.
 
 Amichai Rotman
 
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 UIN#: 6401746
 Registered Linux User#: 201192
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie]

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 06:43 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:22 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2004 01:49 am, Happy wrote:
   subscribe newbie
   subscribe expert
 
  Happy:
  This won't work. The correct way to subscribe is to send
  separate emails as follows:

 If he didn't subscribe right, how was he supposed to see
 that? ;)

Back in the olden days, one accepted way of subscribing to mail lists was to 
do exactly what Happy did. Hell, there may even be some lists that will still 
accept such subscriptions for all I know. We'll find out how serious he/she 
is about getting on the list.
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Re: [newbie]

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:50 am, Lanman wrote:
 Carroll; You forgot to mention the part about how he has to
 buy us all a beer too ! GRIN! Don't ya just HATE being the
 new GUY ??

 Don't worry! Be happy! Oh, you already are happy. My bad!

 Welcome to at least one list Happy !

 Lanman

I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind of slop I'd get from 
someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
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[newbie] German Finance Ministry switches to Linux

[Glenn]

They're switching from Unix to Linux.  It makes my half-German heart beat with 
pride.  

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,90036,00.html?nas=LIN-90036


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Re: [newbie]

[Happy]

- Original Message - 
From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie]


 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:50 am, Lanman wrote:
  Carroll; You forgot to mention the part about how he has to
  buy us all a beer too ! GRIN! Don't ya just HATE being the
  new GUY ??
 
  Don't worry! Be happy! Oh, you already are happy. My bad!
 
  Welcome to at least one list Happy !
 
  Lanman

 I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind of slop I'd get
from
 someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
 -- cmg



I thought Linus said free beer ?

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Re: [newbie] Can't print/send link/page with Mozilla

[Chris]

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 04:18, Chris wrote:
  This just happened out of the blue.  Mozilla 1.1 just decided that
  it won't let me send any links, or pages, nor will it let me print.


 Most likely Mozilla left something running when it was closed -
 possibly after something crashed?  Anyway, try closing Mozilla, then
 looking for open Mozilla files.  If you find any, kill them, then
 restart Moz.  Good luck

 Anne

Thanks Anne, no joy here.  Now whenever I click on send link/page the thing 
just closes down.  I found no open files, no zombie processes, nothing.  I 
even tried moving the .mozilla dir to another place and let mozilla 
recreate it.  All that did was not even let mozilla start.  Since he was 
having problems opening one page, I opened galeon to try it, maybe 
something in there messed things up.  Any other suggestions?

Chris

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Re: [newbie] Switch Window Managers

[Terence Golightly]

Derek:

snip
 
 I used to favour fluxbox. (In contrib), but I will bring joy to Joe Hills 
 heart by saying that I now prefer pekwm.( No Mandrake RPMS unfortunately, but 
 source here http://pekwm.org/

Actually, I found one on the cooker site :) bad news is I can't remember
the link :(.  The name is: pekwm-0.1.3-1mdk.i586.rpm.  It works,
(meaning it loads, but I havn't put any time in with it yet. I'd rather
use it with xfce4. If it'll work. Anybody try that? oops sorry hijacking
the thread. That'll be 30 lashes!!!

just some cents worth,

Terry

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Re: [newbie] Switch Window Managers

[Terence Golightly]

Derek,

Try below:
 
 I used to favour fluxbox. (In contrib), but I will bring joy to Joe Hills 
 heart by saying that I now prefer pekwm.( No Mandrake RPMS unfortunately, but 
 source here http://pekwm.org/



ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/contrib/i586/pekwm-0.1.3-1mdk.i586.rpm

That was awfully lazy of me.

Terry

 It is FAST FAST FAST, and the tabbed windows are cool.
 Combine pekwm with rox (RPMS in contrib), and in my opinion you have a great 
 desktop for a low end computer.
 http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer
 
 My pekwm desktop screenshot is here
 http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?set_albumName=linux05id=pekwmop=modloadname=Galleryfile=indexinclude=view_photo.php
 
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Re: [newbie]

[Lanman]

On 2/17/2004 at 7:42 PM Carroll Grigsby wrote:

I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind of
slop I'd get
from 
someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
-- cmg

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Of course, until he's properly subscribed, he won't know
about the problems with Outlook Express. I have a feeling
that someone wil set him straight though. Nice to see that
you're in a fairly good mood today Carroll ! g

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Re: [newbie]

[Happy]

- Original Message - 
From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie]


 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:50 am, Lanman wrote:
  Carroll; You forgot to mention the part about how he has to
  buy us all a beer too ! GRIN! Don't ya just HATE being the
  new GUY ??
 
  Don't worry! Be happy! Oh, you already are happy. My bad!
 
  Welcome to at least one list Happy !
 
  Lanman

 I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind of slop I'd get
from
 someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
 -- cmg



-
Quote:
I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind of slop I'd get from
 someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
-- cmg:

-
Don't worry...  I drink Whiskey more then beer now-a-days
Hmmm. I feel less then welcome now.

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[newbie] Mailman

[Kasper Thunoe]

Hey list.

I'm playing around with mailman but I'm kinda stuck as to what I should do
after I have it installed. How do I set it up so the list configuration is
actually accessible through a web server?

Any pointers as to where I should go from here will be greatly appreciated.

Im on MDK9.1 and using mailman 2.0.14. Installed using a mdk rpm. Web server
is Apache and I'm using Postfix as my MTA.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 18 Feb 2004 12:22 am, Paul Smith wrote:
   Indeed, Hotmail Popper runs under Wine. Unfortunately, the connection
   to 127.0.0.1 is refused. Could somebody here please help me with
   overcoming this difficulty?
 
 Ermm  Why not use  Windows Applications under Windows, and  Linux
 applications
 under Linux? Gotmail works just fine for me
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gotmail/

 Derek,

 Because, it seems that Gotmail does not allow to send e-mails from Hotmail
 accounts. It only allows Hotmail mail download. Am I right?

 Paul

True, but you can always create a hotmail identity in whatever mail agent you 
use. Your mails can appear to come from Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
even though you could be using a different ISP account.

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Re: [newbie]

[Lanman]

On 2/17/2004 at 8:13 PM Happy wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie]


 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:50 am, Lanman wrote:
  Carroll; You forgot to mention the part about how he
has to
  buy us all a beer too ! GRIN! Don't ya just HATE being
the
  new GUY ??
 
  Don't worry! Be happy! Oh, you already are happy. My
bad!
 
  Welcome to at least one list Happy !
 
  Lanman

 I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind
of slop I'd get
from
 someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
 -- cmg


---
-
-
Quote:
I only drink good beer, and I'm dubious about what kind of
slop I'd get
from
 someone who sends HTML via Outlook Express.
-- cmg:
---
-
-
Don't worry...  I drink Whiskey more then beer
now-a-days
Hmmm. I feel less then welcome now.

Happy - (Thos Kaber)


I'll make sure to keep your Whiskey point in mind from
now on Thos ! g  You'll also find that over time, Carroll
grows on you. Very helpful for the most part, as are all of
us ( most of the time that is! ). Within the next few days,
you'll also receive an email from the list with our
Netiquette protocols. Until you do, see if you can check
your Outlook Express options for anything about sending
emails in Plain Text if you can. It will greatly reduce the
possibility of launching some nasty virus-like emails on
list-members email systems, not to mention your personal
contacts. In the meantime, welcome again and enjoy the
ride.

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Re: [newbie] Dependency hell

[Roland Hughes]

Sorry I am so late getting back to you. The wife is sick and it has kept me 
running. I tried to urpmi each dependency individually but it would crap out 
wanting one of the others so no luck. I am going to try and find them on 
sourceforge or freshmeat and  download them and try it that way. I will let 
you know the result.
Thanks for replying to my sob story.
Roly

On Sunday 15 February 2004 08:04 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Monday 09 February 2004 6:30 pm, Roland Hughes monotonically droned on:
  I am running Mandrake Community(Download) 9.2. I have kept it up to date
  using urpmi but now have hit a dependency brick wall. The following is
  what I get when trying to do a update:
 
  Some package requested cannot be installed:
  ImageMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied libMagick5.5.7[==
  5.5.7.15-1.2plf])
  k3b-0.11.1-3.5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libk3bplugin.so.1)
  libMagick5.5.7-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied
  libjasper-1.700.so.2) libk3b1-0.11.1-3.5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
  libFLAC++.so.2)
  xine-plugins-1-0.rc3a.1plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied
  libdirectfb-0.9.so.18) (Y/n) y
 
  I think this is why Totem Movie Player now crashes.
  I tried urpmi'ing the dependencies individually but it just goes in a
  circle with the dependencies and I get no where. These same stop me from
  installing xine or mplayer.
  Any help would be appreciated.

 When I have this problem, I usually hand install via urpmi the program in
 question. In the case of ImageMagick, I would install
 libMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586.rpm first, then urpmi
 ImageMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586.rpm having both of them in the directory
 where I am running urpmi from.

 With the next one, I run urpmi libk3bplugin.so.1 to see if I get an rpm, if
 not, I go to rpmfind.net and query them for the package, then I hand
 install it as above.

 And so on and forthwith with your errors. Yes it is a pain But not nearly
 the pain it is without urpmi.

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[newbie] X won't start!

[Marc Resnick]

X Graphical Interface won't start! It won't start 
on the new kernel I'm trying to figure out, or my old one(see my other thread). 
The only thing I've changed is telling Harddrake not to start on boot, because 
H.J. Bathoorn told me it would rid of an error I was receiving at boot. Is this 
the problem? If so, how do I enable it?

--Marc

Re: [newbie] Mailman

[Todd Slater]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:14:56AM +0100, Kasper Thunoe wrote:
 Hey list.
 
 I'm playing around with mailman but I'm kinda stuck as to what I should do
 after I have it installed. How do I set it up so the list configuration is
 actually accessible through a web server?
 
 Any pointers as to where I should go from here will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Im on MDK9.1 and using mailman 2.0.14. Installed using a mdk rpm. Web server
 is Apache and I'm using Postfix as my MTA.

I've got some quick-start instructions here:
http://clevername.homeip.net/howto/

scroll down the page a little.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[TheViking]

Or you can just log on to http://www.hotmail.com. Is that such a difficult
task? :P

- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper


 On Wednesday 18 Feb 2004 12:22 am, Paul Smith wrote:
Indeed, Hotmail Popper runs under Wine. Unfortunately, the
connection
to 127.0.0.1 is refused. Could somebody here please help me with
overcoming this difficulty?
  
  Ermm  Why not use  Windows Applications under Windows, and  Linux
  applications
  under Linux? Gotmail works just fine for me
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/gotmail/
 
  Derek,
 
  Because, it seems that Gotmail does not allow to send e-mails from
Hotmail
  accounts. It only allows Hotmail mail download. Am I right?
 
  Paul

 True, but you can always create a hotmail identity in whatever mail agent
you
 use. Your mails can appear to come from Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 even though you could be using a different ISP account.

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RE: [newbie] Mailman

[Kasper Thunoe]

 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Todd Slater
 Sendt: 18. februar 2004 02:19
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: Re: [newbie] Mailman
 
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:14:56AM +0100, Kasper Thunoe wrote:
  Hey list.
  
  I'm playing around with mailman but I'm kinda stuck as to what I 
  should do after I have it installed. How do I set it up so the list 
  configuration is actually accessible through a web server?
  
  Any pointers as to where I should go from here will be 
 greatly appreciated.
  
  Im on MDK9.1 and using mailman 2.0.14. Installed using a 
 mdk rpm. Web 
  server is Apache and I'm using Postfix as my MTA.
 
 I've got some quick-start instructions here:
 http://clevername.homeip.net/howto/
 
 scroll down the page a little.
 
 Todd
 
 

That did the trick... Was missing the Include statement for the mailman.conf
file.

Thanks for the quick reply.

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a program similar to Hotmail Popper

[Paul Smith]

Thanks for your suggestions! I have just installed Hotway suite, which 
easily does both jobs, I mean: it receives and it sends e-mails from 
Hotmail accounts! It is fantastic!

Paul

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Re: [newbie] No rpm package in my list

[Simon Kitching]

On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 12:31, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 Feb 2004 10:28 pm, Christophe Rhein wrote:
  Hello.
  Well I'm sorry to go back with this but I have no rpm package on my list in
  rpmdrake
  What shall I do?
  Bye
  Christophe
 
 
 Then you have already installed it. No problem

You can confirm this by using menu option Configuration|Packaging|Browse
Available Software, and then enter the pkg name in the find field.

Or from the commandline by:
  rpm -q somepkg --info
or (if you're not quite sure of the name):
  rpm -qa | grep somepkg

If you're not sure what the executable files for the package are, try:
  rpm -q somepkg --filesbypkg

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Re: [newbie] Switch Window Managers

[Jerry Barton]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:03:07 -0600
Job Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I am debating changing from KDE/Gnome to some other, lighter, window
 manager.  If you ever wanted a chance to brag up your favorite window
 manager now is the time.  I don't know what options exists, nor do I
 know the advantages of one over another.  The more input the better.
 
 If/when I do decide to switch, I'll probably be back asking how to
 install it.

My personal favorite (and now the only one I have installed) is IceWM. 
It's fast, lightweight, has a taskbar that's easy to use, has a menu
button.  Lots of themes available.  The toolbar can be customized,
there's a configuration program for it that works well.  Desktop icons
can be added using dfm (i think that's the name of it... I don't use it
anymore though I did have it at one time).  I've yet to have a problem
with it since I've started using it (as of mandrake 8.1).  It seems to
get little notice from most people.  You hear a lot about windowmaker
and fluxbox and, most recently, about xfce4 but not often about icewm. 
I've yet to find a drawback to using it.  The difference in the 3d
accel. on my video card between kde and icewm was astounding (gl
screensavers in kde ran PAINFULLY slow but are smoothe in icewm.  same
with games) due to less use of resources, I suppose.

That said, I used to use just twm for quite some time and have tried
windowmaker, xfce (nice but takes a lot of setup if you ask me), KDE,
GNOME, blackbox, fluxbox, xpde(UGH!), qvwm(UGH! again!), and a bunch of
others and always come back to icewm.  Ion was a fun one... confusing as
all get out though.  Could be just that I'm comfortable with it and
that, in turn, could be because it's easy to get comfortable with.

;-)

My 2 cents.

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Re: [newbie] UPS prog called bulldog?

[Dennis Myers]

On Wednesday 11 February 2004 09:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 February 2004 09:18 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Wednesday 11 February 2004 09:27 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
   Someone posted a message about getting bulldog into a rpm so that their
   belkin UPS would work in auto mode. I lost the message somehow and
   would like to see if it will work on an offbrand UPS. Could you repost
   the link to your package? Thanks,
 
  Dennis:
  You might find this of interest: http://fedoranews.org/tchung/ups/
  This guy has developed RedHat RPM rpms for the Belkin Bulldog software --
  binary and source. I'm thinking about giving it a try here.
  -- cmg

 Thank you much, that was what I was looking for. I do not know now how I
 came across it but I could not find it again. Thanks so much,
OK, it is running, I set it for ttyS0 and my comp as master. Bulldog sees my 
UPS and says power is normal. Next test is when I have a real outage.  Man, I 
love linux.

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Re: [newbie] X won't start!

[Marc Resnick]

- Original Message - 
From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] X won't start!


 On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 17:21, Marc Resnick wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] X won't start!
 
 
   On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 16:54, Marc Resnick wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] X won't start!
   
   
 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 08:26 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
  X Graphical Interface won't start! It won't start on the
  new kernel I'm trying to figure out, or my old one(see my
  other thread). The only thing I've changed is telling
  Harddrake not to start on boot, because H.J. Bathoorn
  told me it would rid of an error I was receiving at boot.
  Is this the problem? If so, how do I enable it?
 
  --Marc
 Could you copy your x Config file here?

  
Where exactly can I find that?
  
   XFree86 (the standard X implementation for linux) is configured in
file
   /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (assuming you have version 4.x of xfree86, which
   you almost certainly do).
  
   Of course if you only have text-mode access to your operating system,
it
   might be difficult to post. I presume you've got a second machine
you're
   using to send emails at the moment?
  
   Regards,
  
   Simon
  
  
  
 
  I've got several boxes, but this one is dual booted with Windows XP. I'm
not
  even certain if I'll be able to access the files, but I'll try when I
get a
  chance.

 If you're using FAT-format disk partitions for windows then you can copy
 it from linux into that partition. Or otherwise the xf86 config file
 should be small enough to go on a floppy.

 You might want to try dmesg /tmp/dmesg.txt and post the contents of
 that too. The dmesg program dumps log output generated by the kernel
 while booting. I don't know if it also holds any X startup problems or
 not.

 And what happens when you try to start X anyway? What command do you
 use, and what output do you get?

 [PS: I'm no expert on X; I've learnt a little as the result of some
 bitter struggles in the past..]

 Cheers,

 Simon


Okay I took the time to write down all the errors.

The first I received repeated many times:

Warning: Symbol map for key   redefined
Using last definition for conflicting fields.

Inside the   was: AB03 -- AB10, BKSL, LCTL, and SPCE. There could have
been more that was bumped off the screen.

Next came:
Errors from xkbcomp not fatal to X server

Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
Could not open default font 'fixed'

XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) 0X
X server :0.0 after 0 requests(0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

My Xfree86 config is normal, and the abnormal error during boot was that I
have no space left on my root partition(which I was going to make bigger
today...when suddenly this happened).

Any ideas?

Marc


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Re: [newbie] Dependency hell

[Roland Hughes]

Just an update- I have brought down the dependencies but when  I go to install 
them I get the message everything installed. I have rebuilt the database 
and am not sure where to go from here.
Roly

On Tuesday 17 February 2004 05:26 pm, Roland Hughes wrote:
 Sorry I am so late getting back to you. The wife is sick and it has kept me
 running. I tried to urpmi each dependency individually but it would crap
 out wanting one of the others so no luck. I am going to try and find them
 on sourceforge or freshmeat and  download them and try it that way. I will
 let you know the result.
 Thanks for replying to my sob story.
 Roly

 On Sunday 15 February 2004 08:04 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  On Monday 09 February 2004 6:30 pm, Roland Hughes monotonically droned on:
   I am running Mandrake Community(Download) 9.2. I have kept it up to
   date using urpmi but now have hit a dependency brick wall. The
   following is what I get when trying to do a update:
  
   Some package requested cannot be installed:
   ImageMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied libMagick5.5.7[==
   5.5.7.15-1.2plf])
   k3b-0.11.1-3.5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libk3bplugin.so.1)
   libMagick5.5.7-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   libjasper-1.700.so.2) libk3b1-0.11.1-3.5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   libFLAC++.so.2)
   xine-plugins-1-0.rc3a.1plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   libdirectfb-0.9.so.18) (Y/n) y
  
   I think this is why Totem Movie Player now crashes.
   I tried urpmi'ing the dependencies individually but it just goes in a
   circle with the dependencies and I get no where. These same stop me
   from installing xine or mplayer.
   Any help would be appreciated.
 
  When I have this problem, I usually hand install via urpmi the program in
  question. In the case of ImageMagick, I would install
  libMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586.rpm first, then urpmi
  ImageMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586.rpm having both of them in the directory
  where I am running urpmi from.
 
  With the next one, I run urpmi libk3bplugin.so.1 to see if I get an rpm,
  if not, I go to rpmfind.net and query them for the package, then I hand
  install it as above.
 
  And so on and forthwith with your errors. Yes it is a pain But not nearly
  the pain it is without urpmi.
 
  Rob

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