Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:13, Lanman wrote:
 Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
  My problem was corrected when I updated to the latest slew of updates
  and also replaced the secure kernel with the latest version.  have not
  seen that problem since then.
 
 Lyvim; How ya doin' Buddy? I found another way to fix the problem. Can 
 you say Bastille? Killed Shorewall, copied over my Bastille files, ran 
 the command and voila! No more shorewall data on my console, and the 
 firewall is running fine (actually runs a bit faster)!

Hello, Immortal One.  ;)  Good to see that you are still your old
indefatigable and irrepressible self.  grin

I may go the Bastille route.  But I had an immense success story getting
shorewall to run an internal Neverwinter Nights server not too long ago,
and now I'm sort of loath to give it up just yet.  I think my problem is
just a matter of editing the right config files in shorewall, maybe the
zone conf file isn't set up right, or something like that...I figure
between the Shorewall mailing lists and the great documentation on Tom
Estep's site, it's a matter of time before I lick it.

 
 Also, is there a Bind Guru here somewhere? I can't get rndc to 
 behave itself. It keeps giving me an error that states -
 
rndc: connect failed: connection refused
 
 Even though Bind seems to start up without errors, and even though port 
 53 is open on my firewall for DNS authentication, port scans keep 
 stating that the port is closed.
 
  You're running shorewall on the firewall, correct?  ;)  I've been
  encountering the same problems with both qmail and bind.
  
  LX
 
 RNDC problem is still happening though. Because of that, my DNS server 
 still appears closed in a firewall scan. I checked at Bind's website, 
 and they say that it's usually due to silly things like the server's 
 hostname ( mine's good ), or the fact that there's no rndc-key located 
 in named.conf or rndc.conf ( which is there in both files on this 
 machine), so I'm not sure what to do. The DNS port is open on the 
 firewall, but the service is not fully starting. The funny thing is that 
 my email server (postfix) runs like a charm, and so does everything else.
 
 So right now, it's more of an annoyance than anything, but I'd like to 
 solve it. Still open to suggestions.
 
 Lanman

Don't have any yet, but I can tell you this; when the email server
problem gets resolved, the DNS problem will quickly follow, and when it
does I'll send you the results.

The difference between the NWN server and the firewall problem is that
while the NWN server ports were being directed to another box on the
internal net, the ports for DNS/Email on the firewall are not; because
of it needing to be a fully qualified domain name with respect to
Qmail.  Qmail is picky about stuff like that.

Keep it straight up buddy..

:) 

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:27, Greg wrote:
 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:

 Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
 Greg

Yes, run netwatch on eth0.  It beats netstat for monitoring
connections.

Netstat's place in the overall scheme of things is to monitor ALL (and I
mean all) incoming connections to your firewall.  Or to your
workstation, if it's directly connected.  Netstat can show you the bytes
in, bytes out, port address, protocol used (udp or tcp), ip address or
the FQDN of the incoming connection, the type of service that uses that
particular port, all selectable with the arrow keys.  Netstat can also
log all this information to a file for legal purposes.  Anybody that
taps one of your ports is recorded in the Netwatch status screen.  It's
a great tool for monitoring your firewall.

The only thing it doesnt do is actually record or analyze incoming
packets for what they are actually for; this is an entirely different
job and should be done by a util such as snort.

If you like netwatch and would like to see it as a part of the contribs
given with Mandrake 9.2, please take the time to go to your Mandrakeclub
RPM voting page and cast your vote for this great utility so that
someone will package it specifically for Mandrake.  Right now it's just
available as a 386 rpm.  The author is Gordon MacKay, this is his
website:

http://www.slctech.org/~mackay/netwatch.html

If you like what you see, email him with some thanks.  Not enough people
thank the developers these days for their hard work.

Firewalls generally should not be running X, therefore it is great that
Netwatch uses an ncurses interface.  This makes it runnable from the
console.

There does seem to be a Mandrake rpm available, but this link only
offers it for Mandrake version 10 

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/2/simple/2

I've got a request in for a contributor to package it for 9.2 but I
don't think it's been done yet.

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?

2004-05-21 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
JoeHill wrote:
It seems to be sending three copies of your mail to the list, too! Maybe that's
what's slowing your system down... ;-)
:-)
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[newbie] Thumbnail preview now working in Mandrake 10

2004-05-21 Thread Richard McCormick
Hi,

I'm probably missing something but I can't for the life of me figure it out.  

Konqueror/View/Preview/Images then I saved the changes (among other tweaks)
under the Settings/Save View Profile and I just downloaded a bunch of jpg's
and they are not showing, nor are a few png's that I have on board!! :-(

I made my way down the long list in KControl and I can not see any other
mentioning of this type to enable.  

Please help!

Thanks!!

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java

2004-05-21 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
martin brandt wrote:
I'm  running Mandrake 9.2 and im trying to install the package
j2re-1_4_2_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin from the javasun website.

I get an error when im running the rpm.
Preparing packages for installation...
j2re-1.4.2_04-fcs
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/CHANGES;40ace6
   bd: cpio: mkdir failed - No such file or directory
I normally install the .bin (not .rpm.bin) Java package, so I'll just 
try some guesses.
- you are running rpm -iv as root, right?
- maybe the file was corrupt dutring download, have you tried to 
download it again?

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 21 May 2004 04:51, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

snip
  The thing to remember is that if you are on a
 workstation, you shouldn't need to run xinetd for the reasons
 listed. And if you *do* need to dynamically activate services,
 don't use xinetd to do that, use Dan Bernstein's Tcpserver
 program, available on Vincent Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  No
 vulns that I'm aware of have ever been detected either in vanilla
 qmail or tcpserver.

 LX
/snip

Lyvim, as everything coming from your keyboard : excellent !

Right now, I've stopped xinetd for good.

Regards

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player

2004-05-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 21 May 2004 04:38, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop.   Most things are
 working well.  However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the
 CD player (gnome.)  Linux is using the ALSA sound system.  If I run the
 Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to
 the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine.  But
 neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output)
 produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light
 flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.)   Any
 ideas how to get this to work?  Thanks.

You probably need an audio cable.
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html

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[newbie] Konq's gone weird

2004-05-21 Thread Steve Mansfield
I've run into a problem with a new install of Mandrake 10 Community. 
Everything's been working fine until now, but suddenly Konqueror is refusing 
to behave like a proper browser.

The PC is connected to a local network which also has an ISDN router. Konq was 
able to access the web without trouble and also our intranet server on 
192.168.0.2.

But suddenly, if I feed it a URL - even if I specifically give it the http:// 
- it comes back with 'file or folder not found'.

I have made a few config changes recently, the most significant probably being 
the resolv.conf file which now says:

search local
nameserver 192.168.0.1

(All machines on the network have the domain 'local' - and the machine itself 
has the hostname 'photolib.local'. That nameserver is the IP address of the 
router).

Netscape on the same machine is having no problems at all accessing the server 
or the web, and mail is working fine (using the same server as a mail server) 
so I presume the problem is in Konq's config somewhere. Anyone have any 
ideas?

@+
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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 01:37, Len Lawrence wrote:
 On Fri, 21 May 2004 00:27:33 -0400
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg) wrote:
 
  Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 23:23, Greg wrote:
  - snip -
  Is there any way to monitor network traffic  
  Greg
  
 
 You could try /usr/sbin/net_monitor.

However I don't think that's what Greg had in mind, since I *think* he
wants something to monitor incoming possible attacks.  net_monitor
merely monitors throughput and doesn't offer specifics on who is
connecting to your firewall.

Netwatch does, tho.

LX



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[newbie] Openldap kinda solved

2004-05-21 Thread Marc Hultquist
Hey Everyone.

Well I managed to solve my openldap issues, now what I am sitting with is the 
fact, I have a few ldif files that I need to import into openldap, but 
ldapadd(Like a RH) box does not seem to exsist. Does anyone have any ideas 
how else I could import the .ldif files ?

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Re: [newbie] O(T)Virus

2004-05-21 Thread David Robertson
Just as an aside, we shouldn't be too complacent about viruses and worms. I 
get my fair share of them and, being an inveterate fiddler, I sometimes run 
the *exe variety through wine to see what happens. Why, you might ask: I have 
no idea! Anyway, recently I had one arrive by email, and on running it just 
by double clicking, it proceeded to deposit about 90 files into every 
directory (including hidden ones) below my home directory. They had very 
entertaining names as well, usually relating to Britney Spear's reproductive 
abilities!

No harm actually done, but a real nuisance and a lot of disk space taken up. 
It was a real pain deleting them all.

Be warned!

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player

2004-05-21 Thread John Richard Smith
Guy Rouillier wrote:
I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop.   Most things are
working well.  However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the
CD player (gnome.)  Linux is using the ALSA sound system.  If I run the
Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to
the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine.  But
neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output)
produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light
flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.)   Any
ideas how to get this to work?  Thanks.
 

I don't know if this is much help to you but I recently had a similar 
problem with my sound card(chip) and aRts ,and the mixers given me to 
set up the audio lines for all the system. I found kmix, the default 
install with kde,limited in the number of lines it can actually handle, 
I was tempted to install aumix as well, and did so once to no avail, 
then quite by chance I discovered  a much more numerous lines mixer 
called alsamixer . Just type alsamixer into a terminal and begin 
fiddling with the many lines that are available. It's s keyboard app but 
has many more channels of audio stream. In my case I think maybe my 
problem was that I had extra streams of sterio audio from the 5.1 dolby 
sound chip capability , or it may just of been a problem with the aRts 
not handling the multi audio stream properly, anyway after some time 
fiddling with alsamixer together with kmix I managed to restore sound.I 
know this is not very scientific , and may not be your problem at all, 
but it's worth a try.

I suppose you have already been down the draksound route
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Re: [newbie] O(T)Virus

2004-05-21 Thread David Robertson
Just as an aside, we shouldn't be too complacent about viruses and worms. I 
get my fair share of them and, being an inveterate fiddler, I sometimes run 
the *exe variety through wine to see what happens. Why, you might ask: I have 
no idea! Anyway, recently I had one arrive by email, and on running it just 
by double clicking, it proceeded to deposit about 90 files into every 
directory (including hidden ones) below my home directory. They had very 
entertaining names as well, usually relating to Britney Spear's reproductive 
abilities!

No harm actually done, but a real nuisance and a lot of disk space taken up. 
It was a real pain deleting them all.

Be warned!

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[newbie] Need help with Samba Server

2004-05-21 Thread van Dyk, Wikus
Hallo everyone ,

I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to
Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any
Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things :

- I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and
when
I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to
continue
And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing
wrong?

- And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete 
Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ?

Thank you

Wikus Van Dyk
Correctional Services IT 
Zonderwater
Email Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



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Re: [newbie] Konq's gone weird

2004-05-21 Thread bascule
unless the router is also a dns server i don't see how konq is supposed to 
resolve addresses

bascule

On Friday 21 May 2004 8:48 am, Steve Mansfield wrote:
 I have made a few config changes recently, the most significant probably
 being the resolv.conf file which now says:

 search local
 nameserver 192.168.0.1

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Re: [newbie] Konq's gone weird

2004-05-21 Thread Steve Mansfield
---
On Friday 21 May 2004 12:54, bascule wrote:
| unless the router is also a dns server i don't see how konq is supposed to
| resolve addresses

The router kicks DNS requests further upstream to the DNS servers assigned 
dynamically by the ISP. Like I said, Netscape is having no trouble at all.



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[newbie] help configuring onboard net RTL8139 (10.0 Community, MS-6577 Mobo)

2004-05-21 Thread Dexter N Muir
Hi all

   I have Mandrake 10.0 Community, and am installing to my hp pavilion
713a.  It has a Microstar MS-6577 ver.1 motherboard, with onboard LAN.
This is a Realtek 8139, and it works fine under the preloaded winXP.  It
will not work at all under Mandrake 10.0.  I have disabled it in BIOS,
and installed a Realtek 8029 card, and I can get a semblance of
operability from this.

   The 8029 card says [FAILED] on bootup, but the Internet services
started at boot say [OK].  Running the Configuration tool (KDE desktop)
allows me to configure the Internet using the Realtek 8029 (to ADSL
Hub), but NOT to configure the LAN connection - what is the difference,
and does it matter?  I seem to be able to mount Windows shares on other
machines on my net using Samba, so something must be working.

   Running the Configuration tool with the 8139 enabled results in a
long-time hang in the system (both during configuration and at bootup),
and no functionality at all.

   I'd rather use the 8139 if I can - the 8029 uses a PCI slot.  Is
there an option I can pass to the driver to get this working? or is this
just another hp standard that is non-standard? (I've encountered
countless of these, right back since the mid-'80's :-)

   I've got similar problems with the sound (Avance AC97), but that's
another story...

Hopefully...
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Re: [newbie] Need help with Samba Server

2004-05-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 21 May 2004 11:16, van Dyk, Wikus wrote:
 Hallo everyone ,

 I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to
 Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any
 Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things :

 - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and
 when
 I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to
 continue
 And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing
 wrong?

 - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete
 Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ?

 Thank you

 Wikus Van Dyk
Welcome

Manuals are available online at
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3
You will also find manuals for heaps of applications at /usr/share/doc on your 
computer.
You will also fine the 'man' command incredibly useful. Open a terminal and 
type 'man command_name'  and you get detailed instructions on the usage of 
that command.


As for Samba the Wizard has a bug in it. If you tick the box for 'Enable 
public file sharing area' then the wizard will not progress past the name 
selection.  (There is a bug report open for it)
If you do not select the public area tick box, it will work OK.

You might like to install the ksambaplugin package using your Software Install 
GUI, the KDE Control Centre (MenuSystemConfigurationConfiguredesktop) will 
contain a new page in NetworkSambaConfiguration  This allows finer control 
than the Mandrake Wizard.

You should also at least read the text configuration file /etc/samba/smb.conf  
In Linux all configuration is by text files, there is no registry (Hooray!) 
when you use a Wizard or a GUI it will edit this text file. The Samba default 
text configuration file is full of explanations and sample configurations 
which will be very useful to you.
After making any change to samba configuration restart samba with
service smb restart
in a root terminal, or use the GUI in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices 
to restart Samba.

When using Samba you should bear in mind that if you have enabled the 
firewall, then Samba traffic is blocked by default, both to the interface to 
the Internet, and the interface to your local network.
 You will either have to open ports 137,138,139 to the local network, or 
disable the firewall. And of course no way should you allow Windows 
networking to get out onto the Internet. (Unless you want people looking at 
your files)


HTH

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Re: [newbie] Need help with Samba Server

2004-05-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 21 May 2004 12:10, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Friday 21 May 2004 11:16, van Dyk, Wikus wrote:
  Hallo everyone ,
 
  I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to
  Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any
  Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things :
 
  - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and
  when
  I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to
  continue
  And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing
  wrong?
 
  - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete
  Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ?
 
  Thank you
 
  Wikus Van Dyk
snip

 You might like to install the ksambaplugin package using your Software
 Install GUI, the KDE Control Centre
 (MenuSystemConfigurationConfiguredesktop) will contain a new page in
 NetworkSambaConfiguration  This allows finer control than the Mandrake
 Wizard.
snip

The package I mentioned in my last post 'ksambaplugin' is not on your CDs. It 
can be found in an online software repository called 'contrib'
Mandrake has the ability to install software from a variety of sources such as 
CDs and online sources. It uses a system called 'urpmi' to work out where 
applications should be installed from, and which packages depend on other 
packages.  (Read the section on urpmi on the Twiki - follow my signature)

To set up your computer to use 'contrib' as a software source go here,
http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
Follow the instructions and take the command it gives you and copy it into a 
root terminal.  (Copy/paste in Linux is highlight/press mouse wheel)

(While you are there add a source for 'plf' and 'updates' too, then you can 
use your Software GUI to install updated packages and plf packages which are 
packages which are not legal in certain countries with bizarre laws.)

There is another GUI to set up Samba called SWAT which is on your CDs, but I 
do not like recommending it because it deletes all the useful text in the 
smb.conf configuration file.

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Re: [newbie] O(T)Virus

2004-05-21 Thread robin
David Robertson wrote:
Just as an aside, we shouldn't be too complacent about viruses and worms. I 
get my fair share of them and, being an inveterate fiddler, I sometimes run 
the *exe variety through wine to see what happens. Why, you might ask: I have 
no idea! Anyway, recently I had one arrive by email, and on running it just 
by double clicking, it proceeded to deposit about 90 files into every 
directory (including hidden ones) below my home directory. They had very 
entertaining names as well, usually relating to Britney Spear's reproductive 
abilities!

No harm actually done, but a real nuisance and a lot of disk space taken up. 
It was a real pain deleting them all.

It's a good idea to have a special sandbox user for times that you 
feel like flirting with the Dark Side.

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[newbie] fan speed...

2004-05-21 Thread gabriel tusinean
Hi,
I'm runing Mandrake 10 on Lifebook C1110D laptop and my fan is working very 
slow.  
Question: How can I increase the fan speed?

thanks
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[newbie] Floppy

2004-05-21 Thread gabriel tusinean
Hi, my laptop don't have an floppy  but mandrake is stil looking for it. How 
can I disable this search for floppy?

results from dmesg:

lp0: using parport0 (polling).
lp0: console ready
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
inserting floppy driver for 2.6.3-4mdk
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
inserting floppy driver for 2.6.3-4mdk
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
inserting floppy driver for 2.6.3-4mdk
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
NET: Registered protocol family 4



thanks

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Re: [newbie] ACPI on Mdk 10.0

2004-05-21 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 20 May 2004 09:36 pm, Ramon PS wrote:
 Hi there.

 I couldn't enable ACPI on my recently installed
 Mandrake Linux Community 10.0. In Grub I have tried
 some options, namely:

 acpi=on
 apm=off acpi=on
 acpi=force

The first one, acpi=on, is an invalid parameter.
The second, if you infact did use them together has the affect   
of acpi=off
The third is to be used cautiously.

 Simply having no acpi statement in kernel parameters should 
enable acpi as it's the kernel default.

 However, the kernel hangs and issues the follwoing
 message:

 ACPI: subsystem revision 20040211
 spurious 8295A interrupt: IRQ7
 looking for DSDT in initrd ... not found!
 ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger

 The only option accepted at boot time is acpi=ht,
 but neither acpi nor acpid are running, and the cpu's
 fan noise bothers a lot!

 acpi=ht  turns off acpi, but allows for hyperthreading 
(Pentium 4's).

If you have kernel-source installed read

tom $ locate kernel-parameters.txt
/usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.tmb.1mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  ~
for listing and explaination of valid kernel parameters. IE

acpi=  [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface   
   Format: { force | off | ht | strict }
 force -- enables ACPI for systems with default off
 off -- disabled ACPI for systems with default on
 ht -- run only enough ACPI to enable Hyper Threading
 strict --  Be less tolerant of platforms that are not
strictly ACPI specification compliant.

See also Documentation/pm.txt.


 My machine is an HP Pavillion ZE4430US, CPU is an
 AMD Mobile 4 2400+ (1,8GHz).

 Any tips would very much appreciated.

 Regards, -rps

  I know nothin of laptops other than not all laptops support 
acpi as used in Linux kernels.  So your search should be whether 
your Pavillion does or not.... or just try it. Remove any 
acpi reference in grub, and check /var/log/dmesg after boot (if 
you can).

tom # cat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i acpi
 BIOS-e820: 1fffc000 - 1000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 1000 - 2000 (ACPI NVS)
ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS) @ 0x000f62a
|
 (snip)
|
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
apm: overridden by ACPI.
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)

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Re: [newbie] Funny for the Day

2004-05-21 Thread PM
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:41, JoeHill wrote:
 Kenneth Brown, president of the 'Alexis de Tocqueville Institution', has written
 a great big book in which he:
 
 ...conducted a comprehensive study on the source of open-source code,
 tracing the free-software movement over three decades, including interviews with
 some two-dozen principal developers of Linux...
 
 Really? Then how, after all that, did he find a way to make this error:
 
  Among the conclusions is that there is a high probability that Linux is a
 derivative work, based on previous operating systems -- including, but not
 limited to, Unix and Minux,
 
 'Minux'? Dontcha mean MINIX, prof? LOL!
 
 Well, shows ya what them book-learnin' people know...
 
 Link:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ywrx7
 
 Groklaw takes him apart messily here:
 
 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040518204701382

Try:
http://tinyurl.com/ywrx7

and the register yesterday at 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/20/tanenbaum_on_adti_brown/

Where Tenebaum (writer of Minix) decribes the author of the article as
'not the sharpest knife in the box'.

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Re: [newbie] Funny for the Day

2004-05-21 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 09:41, JoeHill wrote:

Look at what Andres S. Tanenbaum says about Mr. Brown:

http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/05/20/1427257





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[newbie] VPN with Windows 2000?

2004-05-21 Thread Tango Echo
Hi all,

I'm hoping to setup an MNF 8.2 box to support remote
Windows boxes (connecting thru the Internet) for
connecting via VPN.  I took a quick peak at the
HOW-TOS suggested by the MNF install - looks extremely
lengthy and possibly out of date...

Do we have a simplified or more current version of the
VPN w/Win2K/XP around?  Or should I just spend the
next week reading what is recommended by the MNF Help?

Thanks in advance!




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Re: [newbie] Why does my eth0 show failed?

2004-05-21 Thread David A. Ferguson
From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  DEVICE=eth0
  BOOTPROTO=dhcp
 try changing this to   =static 

I will give it a try, but ultimately I will need to use DHCP.  What is
weird is that the network actually works.  The trouble I have is that
I don't know what log file to look to narrow down what thinks there is
an error (is it hardware configuration, TCP/UDP net access, server trouble,
DNS negotiations, DHCP negotiations, etc.)

Is there a place to look to find out what is causing the FAILED message?

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[newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
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better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while running on Linux.

Anyone else have any feeling on it?
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Re: [newbie] Why does my eth0 show failed?

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 11:55, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 21 May 2004 17:16, David A. Ferguson wrote:
 
 
 snip
  Why does my eth0 show failed?
 
  When Mdk10oe boots it hangs on the 'bring up eth0' message for a
  long time and then says [FAILED].  Where can I go to look and see
  more detailed information on why it failed?
 /snip
 
 Don't know if this will help : I had this message all of a sudden, 
 without changing anything. After some looking around, I simply 
 noticed that an extra diode-light had shown up on my DSL-modem. The 
 light in question was marked lock. After restarting the modem, 
 everything was in order. I haven't the faintest idea, why it 
 locked. ...A short power-off, maybe ?
 
 HTH
 
 Kaj Haulrich.


Wirrrd, Kaj. ??

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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 21 May 2004 19:25, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Is it me or is Opera, for mail and web browsing, looking better
 and better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while
 running on Linux.

 Anyone else have any feeling on it?


Can't speak for mail, but the Opera browser beats everything I've 
seen. Version 7.50 especially. Way back, around version 6, I threw 
a little dough their way, got rid of the advertising, and I'm more 
and more happy with it.

Kaj Haulrich.
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[newbie] ntfs write support fully supported.....kind of

2004-05-21 Thread John Drouhard
I was experimenting with Knoppix 3.4 yesterday and found something of
interest - Captive NTFS. I clicked on it to see what it was, and found
something that many people may be looking for. It is a program type
thing that downloads certain ntfs driver files directly from Microsoft,
and uses the code to give linux full read-write support for ntfs
partitions.

I know that alot of you are completely against using any closed source
stuff at all, but it works like a charm. I now have it on my computer,
and have copied a bunch of music from my home directory to My Documents
on the ntfs partition.

http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/

It took me awhile to get it working correctly, so if anyone wants some
step-by-step instructions on how to get it working, just let me know.

John


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Re: [newbie] Why does my eth0 show failed?

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 21 May 2004 19:26, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 11:55, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  On Friday 21 May 2004 17:16, David A. Ferguson wrote:
 
 
  snip
 
   Why does my eth0 show failed?
  
   When Mdk10oe boots it hangs on the 'bring up eth0' message
   for a long time and then says [FAILED].  Where can I go to
   look and see more detailed information on why it failed?
 
  /snip
 
  Don't know if this will help : I had this message all of a
  sudden, without changing anything. After some looking around, I
  simply noticed that an extra diode-light had shown up on my
  DSL-modem. The light in question was marked lock. After
  restarting the modem, everything was in order. I haven't the
  faintest idea, why it locked. ...A short power-off, maybe ?
 
  HTH
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 Wirrrd, Kaj. ??

 LX

Very much so. But sometimes we have short power outages here, way 
out from everything, including power stations. I tried to mimick an 
outage by shortly switching the power off/on, and you know what ? - 
The lock light came on, and my eth0 FAILED.

But that's only me, I suppose. Nice to have you onboard again, 
Lyvim.

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[newbie] 'nother newbie network question.

2004-05-21 Thread John
Hi again, and thanks to everyone who helped me with my last network 
question.

I suppose this one might be actually more of a Windows question than a 
Linux question, but here goes.

I have a home network of 2 PCs.  One is running mandrake 10, the other 
Win XP.

Linux, bless it, has no problems finding all the shared files on the XP 
machine.
Windows, curse it, doesn't seem able to see the Linux machine at all.

On the Linux machine, I've installed samba and set some files as able to 
be shared on the network, but I just can't get windows to see them.  I'd 
be really grateful if anyone can help me to sort this out.

-
Oh, and a second networky question.  Via Linbourhood, my Linux machine 
correctly detects the windows machine's HP 690C printer.  But when I try 
to print anything to it, or to configure it via CUPS, I just get the 
messate that no printer is detected.  Any advice on how to get a printer 
on another machine working would be much appreciated.

I'm sure more questions will follow... I love this operating system, but 
it's HARD!!

Thanks in advance,
John


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Re: [newbie] help configuring onboard net RTL8139 (10.0 Community, MS-6577 Mobo)

2004-05-21 Thread John Wilson
On May 21, 2004 04:01 am, Dexter N Muir wrote:
 Hi all

I have Mandrake 10.0 Community, and am installing to my hp pavilion
 713a.  It has a Microstar MS-6577 ver.1 motherboard, with onboard LAN.
 This is a Realtek 8139, and it works fine under the preloaded winXP.  It
 will not work at all under Mandrake 10.0.  I have disabled it in BIOS,
 and installed a Realtek 8029 card, and I can get a semblance of
 operability from this.

The 8029 card says [FAILED] on bootup, but the Internet services
 started at boot say [OK].  Running the Configuration tool (KDE desktop)
 allows me to configure the Internet using the Realtek 8029 (to ADSL
 Hub), but NOT to configure the LAN connection - what is the difference,
 and does it matter?  I seem to be able to mount Windows shares on other
 machines on my net using Samba, so something must be working.

Running the Configuration tool with the 8139 enabled results in a
 long-time hang in the system (both during configuration and at bootup),
 and no functionality at all.

I'd rather use the 8139 if I can - the 8029 uses a PCI slot.  Is
 there an option I can pass to the driver to get this working? or is this
 just another hp standard that is non-standard? (I've encountered
 countless of these, right back since the mid-'80's :-)

I've got similar problems with the sound (Avance AC97), but that's
 another story...

 Hopefully...
 Dex

A couple of things come to mind here.  The first one is, with two NIC cards my 
card configured for DHCP, the one pointed to my ADSL, always comes up just 
fine.  The one pointing to my network, the only fixed IP on my home network, 
fails. Probably because it's loading before the network.

In any event, everything works when the system comes up so I'm not overly 
concerned about it.

Sometimes it's all in the load order.

The other thing that may be doing it is that the NIC is coming up before the 
Internet which may cause the same error to occur.

Anyway, some more information is required. :-)

ttfn

John


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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 21 May 2004 01:25 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 Is it me or is Opera, for mail and web browsing, looking better and
 better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while running on Linux.

 Anyone else have any feeling on it?

Love it (I don't use m2 though).  Worth every penny.
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Re: [newbie] Checking disk size from C

2004-05-21 Thread Andrew Archibald
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 17:17, Mike Adolf wrote:

 
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part5
   5.8G  2.4G  3.2G  43% /
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part7
49G  756M   48G   2% /home

 total bytes = (1510072 * 4096)/1024/1024/1024 = 5.7G
 free blocks =( 902426 * 4096)/1024/1024/1024 = 3.44G
 
 WHICH LOOK LIKE THE VALUES FOR LINUX ROOT (target1/part5) instead of part7,

I can't see anything obvious that you've done wrong. The values do look
suspiciously close to those for your '/'!

At a guess you've maybe found a bug which was ironed out by the official
release? Can you try upgrading to the official edition of 10.0?

If it is something specific in your set-up that is triggering a bug
(that hasn't yet been fixed) it would be worth reporting it to the
developers. I suspect though that they'll want you to upgrade to the
latest version before they'll be interested in investigating.

Let us know if you make any progress!

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Re: [newbie] 'nother newbie network question.

2004-05-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 21 May 2004 19:14, John wrote:
 Hi again, and thanks to everyone who helped me with my last network
 question.

 I suppose this one might be actually more of a Windows question than a
 Linux question, but here goes.

 I have a home network of 2 PCs.  One is running mandrake 10, the other
 Win XP.

 Linux, bless it, has no problems finding all the shared files on the XP
 machine.
 Windows, curse it, doesn't seem able to see the Linux machine at all.

 On the Linux machine, I've installed samba and set some files as able to
 be shared on the network, but I just can't get windows to see them.  I'd
 be really grateful if anyone can help me to sort this out.


Open your firewall on the linux box to ports 137,138,139 on your local 
network.
By default the shorewall firewall blocks all traffic from both the Internet, 
and the local network into the Linux box

Also if you have configures samba to allow users  to access their home 
directories on Linux, then you will need to run as root
smbpasswd -a user_name
where user_name is the name of a user that exits in both Windows and Linux. 
the password you give is the **Windows** password for that user.


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Re: [newbie] Funny for the Day

2004-05-21 Thread PM
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:21, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 09:41, JoeHill wrote:
 
 Look at what Andres S. Tanenbaum says about Mr. Brown:
 
 http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/05/20/1427257
 
 
 
 

The author has another article at the adti site, going back 2 years to
when MS was judged to have actied criminally, where he reports for that
internationally admired publication, the 'Conway Springs Star':

Rather than focusing on breaking apart products, and companies that
work, the government should fine Microsoft Corporation fog its alleged
anti-trust violations and use the funds to sponsor grants for competing
operating system development. 

The approaches was suggested by Gregory Fossedal, chairman of the Alexis
de Tocqueville Institution, a public-interest research foundation. The
fund, he said, could be operated by the court itself or by a
commission composed of leading members of Congress, industry, and the
executive. 

http://www.adti.net/conwaysprings_kbrown062200.html

I wonder if the sponsors have read it?

Strangely, when you click on the 'accomplishments' heading on the adti
page you get a 'Not found' response.


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[newbie] MD 10 success story

2004-05-21 Thread rikona
I replaced Windows with MD 10 on an older box used by a COMPLETE
novice who has trouble with even simpler tasks. After only a few days,
she likes it better than Win. I did put on some nice wallpaper to make
it look nice, though. :-)

She got an irate email from someone who was sure they got a virus sent
to them by her. We talked about virus problems, and she sent a reply
re viruses and Linux, and that this could not have happened. I think
this helped her to like it even more.

Based on this, MD seems ready for just about anyone to use.

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[newbie] MP3 Burning

2004-05-21 Thread Drew Martin
Hello All,
I have just got a CD/MP3 Disc player for the  car.What I would 
like to know is if I burn a MP3 CD,using 3KB or some other burning tool,would 
it play on the car player?
The player i have supports ISO9660 level 1 or level 2 format,or 
Joliet or Romeo in the expansion format(whatever this means).
   I believe that Linux burning programs will use ISO9660 when I burn 
the disc,am I right.
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Re: [newbie] MD 10 success story

2004-05-21 Thread Thomas Wilkowski
--- ririkonaririkonaonic.net wrote:
 I replaced Windows with MD 10 on an older box used
 by a COMPLETE
 novice who has trouble with even simpler tasks.
 After only a few days,
 she likes it better than Win. I did put on some nice
 wallpaper to make
 it look nice, though. :-)
 
 She got an irate email from someone who was sure
 they got a virus sent
 to them by her. We talked about virus problems, and
 she sent a reply
 re viruses and Linux, and that this could not have
 happened. I think
 this helped her to like it even more.
 
 Based on this, MD seems ready for just about anyone
 to use.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
  ririkona   
 mamailtoirikonaonic.net
 
 
 Hey ririkona

That great! I have had similar luck. I think MDMDK0 is
fantastic as well and only maintain a window$
partition in case I get caught out in the world and
need it. Someone's network??? a particular download
that only works with explorer I don't know. In any
case lilinuxnd mdmdk0 rock.

It is important to remember though that as linux
users, while not as susceptible to the virus, we can
still pass a virus laden email on to someone else.
Virus scans are still a good idea, if for only this
reason. Our friends will appreciate us for the effort.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning

2004-05-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 09:08:20PM +0100, Drew Martin wrote:
 Hello All,
 I have just got a CD/MP3 Disc player for the  car.What I would 
 like to know is if I burn a MP3 CD,using 3KB or some other burning tool,would 
 it play on the car player?

Yup.

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Re: [newbie] spyware, cookies, etc

2004-05-21 Thread robin
Michael Tienhaara wrote:
Thanks Paul.  I do monitor cookies before accepting them.  Nevertheless
I often wonder if a cookie can double as a spy.
Michael

Op Fri, 21 May 2004 02:02:08 -0700 schreef Michael Tienhaara:

I've been following the recent thread about virus and Linux. Under
Windows I constantly had to search and destroy unwanted spyware apps. 
What are the risks of spyware and cookies on a Linux system? 
I have never heard of spyware that runs on linux.
Cookies are a part of most browsers. Switch off cookie-support if you
are afraid of them, or use a cookie-manager to check what is in there,
I'd say.
NOt to any significant extent. A site can only store the kind of 
information it can get anyway (IP number, browser type etc.) and 
information you give it (forms etc.). In an insecure system, your 
cookies could be accessed by someone else (people in my office have left 
some fairly incriminating cookies on Windows) but there's no real danger 
of that on a properly set up Linux box.

Sir Robin
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[newbie] test

2004-05-21 Thread John
testtt

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player

2004-05-21 Thread Guy Rouillier
On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You probably need an audio cable.
 http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html

Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it.  If you reread my
original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media player. 
Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear anything.  The
fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is okay.

 
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player

2004-05-21 Thread robin
Guy Rouillier wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You probably need an audio cable.
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html

Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it.  If you reread my
original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media player. 
Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear anything.  The
fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is okay.

Do these apps point to the right device?
Sir Robin
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Re: [newbie] spyware, cookies, etc

2004-05-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 19:02, Michael Tienhaara wrote:
 I've been following the recent thread about virus and Linux. Under
 Windows I constantly had to search and destroy unwanted spyware apps. 
 What are the risks of spyware and cookies on a Linux system? 
 Michael 

Very few, if any.
There are emails, though - that are coded in HTML that report back to
the sender when you preview them - UNLESS you turn off the ability for
your mail reader to NOT display images from untrusted sources.

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[newbie] test

2004-05-21 Thread John
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player

2004-05-21 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Friday 21 May 2004 22:53, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You probably need an audio cable.
  http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html

 Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it.  If you reread
 my original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media
 player. Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear
 anything.  The fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is
 okay.

  derek

Uhm, if you read http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html you 
will see you can get audio using the analog audio cable or the IDE 
cable; in the later case the digital/analog conversion is done on the 
soundcard. Derek's site mentions Totem as an application that uses the 
IDE interface so that works without the audio cable.

HTH,

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Re: [newbie] spyware, cookies, etc

2004-05-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 21 May 2004 05:02 am, Michael Tienhaara wrote:
 I've been following the recent thread about virus and Linux. Under
 Windows I constantly had to search and destroy unwanted spyware apps.
 What are the risks of spyware and cookies on a Linux system?

Cookies should be fairly innocuous on most machines and if they trouble you, a 
lot of browsers including Opera and I think Mozilla, allow you to specify 
that cookies should be removed at the end of every session.

As for spyware, Linux is probably currently too small of a platform to get 
much attention from the spyware people. However, as a general rule, you 
should verify and check all sources of software before installation.  If you 
are installing an existing package that has been around for more than a month 
or so, is open source and has an active following, you will probably hear if 
software should be avoided before you install.

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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 13:25, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
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 Is it me or is Opera, for mail and web browsing, looking better and 
 better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while running on Linux.
 
 Anyone else have any feeling on it?
 
 - -- 
 Brant Fitzsimmons
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, my feeling is that you are right.  ;)

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Re: [newbie] defraging

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 16:35, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 May 2004 22:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 06:07, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
   On Tuesday 18 May 2004 21:12, PM wrote:
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 15:03, Michael Tienhaara wrote:
 Thanks for the reply.  Now I'm curioushow?  Does it
 defrag on the fly?  Or, at set times?
 Michael
   
It's a completely different file system to MS dos ( in its
various forms), and doesn't fragment files (not so you'd
notice, anyway) so there's no need to defrag.
  
   ...which is not entirely true, though. In filesystems like
   ext2, ext3, ReiserFS and XFS there is no need whatsoever to
   defrag, but in IBM's JFS is is recommended to do so now and
   then.
  
   Kaj haulrich.
 
  That's IBM for ya.
 
 Well Stephen, I must admit that IBM gets more and more of my respect 
 these days, what with them supporting Linux, standing up against 
 SCO and all that. That aside, their JFS (Journalling File System) 
 is a legacy system inherited from OS/2 Warp. The defragging issue 
 is a bargain pay for the incredible speed and stability og that 
 filesystem.
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

Kaj, you are dead on right.  I just got thru testing JFS on some new
systems for some customers of mine, and I was astounded at the
responsiveness of the boxes after I got it installed.  The reason is the
super low CPU utilization of JFS; it does it's job on a par with XFS
speedwise, but yet consumes far less CPU cycles.  This gives a 2000mhz 
machine a very snappy feel.  Snappier even than my 2k.

The next time I format, which will be soon, I'm going to see how JFS
performs on top of my RAID array.  I love XFS, but JFS just has too much
going for it.

By way of confirmation, please witness these latest benchmarks in Linux
Gazette which bear out what you are saying:

http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html


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Re: [newbie] defraging

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 22 May 2004 00:13, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 16:35, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 May 2004 22:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 06:07, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 21:12, PM wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 15:03, Michael Tienhaara wrote:
  Thanks for the reply.  Now I'm curioushow?  Does it
  defrag on the fly?  Or, at set times?
  Michael

 It's a completely different file system to MS dos ( in
 its various forms), and doesn't fragment files (not so
 you'd notice, anyway) so there's no need to defrag.
   
...which is not entirely true, though. In filesystems like
ext2, ext3, ReiserFS and XFS there is no need whatsoever to
defrag, but in IBM's JFS is is recommended to do so now and
then.
   
Kaj haulrich.
  
   That's IBM for ya.
 
  Well Stephen, I must admit that IBM gets more and more of my
  respect these days, what with them supporting Linux, standing
  up against SCO and all that. That aside, their JFS (Journalling
  File System) is a legacy system inherited from OS/2 Warp. The
  defragging issue is a bargain pay for the incredible speed and
  stability og that filesystem.
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 Kaj, you are dead on right.  I just got thru testing JFS on some
 new systems for some customers of mine, and I was astounded at
 the responsiveness of the boxes after I got it installed.  The
 reason is the super low CPU utilization of JFS; it does it's job
 on a par with XFS speedwise, but yet consumes far less CPU
 cycles.  This gives a 2000mhz machine a very snappy feel. 
 Snappier even than my 2k.

 The next time I format, which will be soon, I'm going to see how
 JFS performs on top of my RAID array.  I love XFS, but JFS just
 has too much going for it.

 By way of confirmation, please witness these latest benchmarks in
 Linux Gazette which bear out what you are saying:

 http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html


 LX

Interesting. And I think the defragging can be set up as a cron job. 
My experience with JFS stems from my OS/2 days, and I don't 
remember I ever had to defrag it. In OS/2 there was a nifty 
feature, a graphical representation of the filesystem. One could 
actually see how it worked, distributing files in a very clever 
manner. Fragmentation never amounted to more then 2 %.

Next time I do a clean install, I'll try it on linux, although I 
have no complaints whatsoever with my ReiserFS.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] defraging

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:32, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

  By way of confirmation, please witness these latest benchmarks in
  Linux Gazette which bear out what you are saying:
 
  http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
 
 
  LX
 
 Interesting. And I think the defragging can be set up as a cron job. 
 My experience with JFS stems from my OS/2 days, and I don't 
 remember I ever had to defrag it. In OS/2 there was a nifty 
 feature, a graphical representation of the filesystem. One could 
 actually see how it worked, distributing files in a very clever 
 manner. Fragmentation never amounted to more then 2 %.
 
 Next time I do a clean install, I'll try it on linux, although I 
 have no complaints whatsoever with my ReiserFS.
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

grin  You might if you look at the benchmarks.  Reiser consumes a
horde of cpu cycles in order to deliver performance that is not really
superior either to xfs or jfs *overall*.  I tip the hat to Reiser
design, it's quite sophisticated, however if the design is not living up
to it's promise, then I'm unsure of it's true value.

Look at image034.jpg (Split 10mb File) of the linux gazette article
page.  Reiser's advanced design should be letting it kick ass
here...yet, it is just barely comparable to  JFS's curve, which is
phenonmenal.

In image029.jpg (Megabytes Per Second On Copy From Current To Other
Disk), Reiser has the poorest showing in the group, with JFS beating it
out.  Which brings me to the topic of image021.jpg -- Total CPU
Utilization For Each Filesystem.  This test was an aggregate
accumulation of all cpu usage across all tests.  JFS shows an
unbelievable kick ass advantage over the other journaling filesystems,
and then in addition shows an advantage over ext2, which isn't even a
journaling filesystem, for pete's sake!!!

That's an absolute first; it's never been done before.  I do not know
why it has not gotten more press.  Logic would lead you to believe that
such a feat as that would not be possible. Journaling filesystems have
to do more stuff than nonjournaling filesystems. But yet, there it is; a
journaling filesystem is outperforming a non journaling filesystem in
CPU utilization benchmarks.

Reiser, on the other hand, has the absolute worst showing of any of the
other filesystems here in image021.jpg.  Of the entire group, Reiser is
the biggest CPU hog; while at the same time delivering no overall speed
advantages to it's CPU usage.  The *aggregate* tests reveal this.

Given the other aggregate benchmarks (like image020.jpg, Total Time For
Each Filesystem), the final qualifier, for me anyway, becomes the
advantage of total system speed.  JFS has the undisputed advantage here;
it leaves the CPU available for things other than testing sophisticated
filesystem theory.  ;)

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Re: [newbie] O(T)Virus

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 18:34, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Thursday 20 May 2004 20:05, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  I have a complaint.
 
  How can I get my share of virus laden emails?
 
  It isn't right that everyone get's a bunch and I'm only averaging
  one a week.
 
  Who's getting mine?
 
  fess up.
 
  Lee
 
 OK... I'll confess : I've hijacked yours. I get about 10 per week, 
 but until now I haven't been able to get one running on my box. And 
 I double-click the attachments, I single-click them and I try to 
 run them in various applications, but to no avail. What kind of 
 operating system is this Linux ? ... Can't even run a virus ?
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

That's right, XP is much more advanced in that respect.

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Re: [newbie] O(T)Virus

2004-05-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 19:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 21 May 2004 01:16, Derek Jennings wrote:
 
 snip
  If a site does not work with Mozilla tough..
 /snip
 
 ...then this site is run by fools, who shouldn't have acces to the 
 internet in the first place.
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

You go guy.  grin

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Re: [newbie] defraging

2004-05-21 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 22 May 2004 01:09, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

snip
 Reiser, on the other hand, has the absolute worst showing of any
 of the other filesystems here in image021.jpg.  Of the entire
 group, Reiser is the biggest CPU hog; while at the same time
 delivering no overall speed advantages to it's CPU usage.  The
 *aggregate* tests reveal this.

 Given the other aggregate benchmarks (like image020.jpg, Total
 Time For Each Filesystem), the final qualifier, for me anyway,
 becomes the advantage of total system speed.  JFS has the
 undisputed advantage here; it leaves the CPU available for things
 other than testing sophisticated filesystem theory.  ;)

 LX
/snip

Lyvim, I absolutely agree. Nevertheless, my - very subjective - 
feeling is that ReiserFS outperforms ext3. Never tried XFS. It 
feels very snappy, especially on kernel 2.6. More important to me 
then speed however, is stability. I have 5 users here on my main 
box, not all of them very polite about shutting down the canonic 
way, closing applications and tidying up generally. Furthermore, we 
have numerous power outages out here by the ocean and everytime 
ReiserFS is up and running in a few seconds, regardless of what.

So, until 10.1 I'll stick with ReiserFS. But then, I'll at least 
make a few partitions with JFS. Probably /boot and /home.

And, speaking of filesystems : I guess JFS somehow is derived from 
OS/2 's HPFS (High Performance File System). With that file system 
fragmentation was very moderate too. Funny thing is, that when IBM 
and Microsoft divorced over OS/2 - around 1992 - the latter 
stole (as usual) the filesystem, modified it in a way that made 
it incompatible with the rest of the world and called it NTFS. And 
nowadays, when I'm called upon to fix my daughters WinXP - and 
that's about weekly - I notice heavy fragmentation, even after few 
hours of work. So much for MicroSCOft improving things.

We penguinistas have the best of all worlds : freedom.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning

2004-05-21 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 21 May 2004 01:10 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 09:08:20PM +0100, Drew Martin wrote:
  Hello All,
  I have just got a CD/MP3 Disc player for the  car.What I
  would like to know is if I burn a MP3 CD,using 3KB or some other burning
  tool,would it play on the car player?

 Yup.

 Todd
And well worth it.
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Re: [newbie] test

2004-05-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 21 May 2004 04:44 pm, John wrote:
 testtt
Too many t's
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Re: [newbie] test

2004-05-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 21 May 2004 05:33 pm, John wrote:
 teesttt
less t's, but more e's
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[newbie] SAMBA and NetBIOS names

2004-05-21 Thread Marc Lijour
Hi 

I used to have Mandrake 9.2 machines on the (windows) network and it was fine 
to ping the windows machines by their netbios names, something that I came to 
enjoy!

I do not know how the network is set up. I assume DNS is used to keep track of 
machines' names... The only thing I know is that Linux was able to use their 
names in ping, ssh and others (like the cups wizard!).

I moved to Mandrake10Official, and I came to realize that the name resolution 
is not working anymore. I dont know what has been changed, and after looking 
closely to smb.conf, resolv.conf, nsswitch.conf, winbind and trying to enable 
the machine as domain master, wins server, etc.. nothing seem to solve my 
problem.

What I can do:
use nmblookup machine name resolves the IP correctly

What I cannot do:
ssh machine_name, ping machine, etc... does not work anymore.

Can somebody point me to some readings or, even better, a solution?

Thanks.,
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Re: [newbie] ACPI on Mdk 10.0

2004-05-21 Thread Marc Lijour
Le May 20, 2004 10:36 pm, Ramon PS a écrit :
 Hi there.

 I couldn't enable ACPI on my recently installed
 Mandrake Linux Community 10.0. In Grub I have tried
 some options, namely:

 acpi=on
 apm=off acpi=on
 acpi=force

 However, the kernel hangs and issues the follwoing
 message:

 ACPI: subsystem revision 20040211
 spurious 8295A interrupt: IRQ7
 looking for DSDT in initrd ... not found!

It seems looking for something in initrd.
You could try to make a new initrd with mkinitrd (do a man mkinitrd to read 
what it is dealing with) or the Mandrake boot wizard(?).

 ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger

 The only option accepted at boot time is acpi=ht,
 but neither acpi nor acpid are running, and the cpu's
 fan noise bothers a lot!

 My machine is an HP Pavillion ZE4430US, CPU is an
 AMD Mobile 4 2400+ (1,8GHz).

 Any tips would very much appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:55:46 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Opera

 On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 13:25, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
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  Is it me or is Opera, for mail and web browsing, looking better and 
  better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while running on Linux.
  
  Anyone else have any feeling on it?
  
  - -- 
  Brant Fitzsimmons
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Yes, my feeling is that you are right.  ;)
 
 LX

I have been using Opera for some time, and it has 
improved greatly through the past several versions. I've beta 
tested as the new versions come out, and find the 
Opera folks to be responsive to feedback and 
quick to reply.

It's my browser of choice, for lin and wingreat performance. :-)
 
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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
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Greg Meyer wrote:
On Friday 21 May 2004 01:25 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

Is it me or is Opera, for mail and web browsing, looking better and
better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while running on Linux.
Anyone else have any feeling on it?
   

Love it (I don't use m2 though).  Worth every penny.
Is there a specific reason you're not using it for mail?  I'm not 
shilling for Opera or anything.  I'm just curious.

The first downside I see with the mail client is that there are no 
encryption options that I could find.  If i'm wrong on this I would 
seriously consider using Opera for all web and email use.

- -- 
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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-21 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
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Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Is it me or is Opera, for mail and web browsing, looking better and 
better?  It uses far less memory and is much faster while running on 
Linux.

Anyone else have any feeling on it?

I'm using Thunderbird right now and I'm pretty disappointed with the 
high memory use and very sluggish performance.  Surprisingly version 0.5 
on Mandrake 10CE is much slower than the full blown Mozilla on the same box.

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educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are
omnipotent.
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