Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
snip How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting info about this? Thanks Rosemary /snip Depends on how much you interact with windows :) There are viruses for linux which mostly come in the form of rootkits. This is more a backdoor than it is a virus, and the attacker would need to have access on a superuser level. Some claim to have made linux worms which is more virus-like, but the chance of running on to one of those is slim to none. The best one can do is to keep ones system up to date, especially if you allow external access (ssh, ftp, www etc.), and delete mail from people you dont know. For my part I dualboot and have other windows machines in my home network so I use antivirus (clamav) on linux as a precaution, and to check mails. Hope that gives you an idea. /Kasper Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
Thanks Kasper --- Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #382526 - Original Message - From: Kasper Thunoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1 snip How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting info about this? Thanks Rosemary /snip Depends on how much you interact with windows :) There are viruses for linux which mostly come in the form of rootkits. This is more a backdoor than it is a virus, and the attacker would need to have access on a superuser level. Some claim to have made linux worms which is more virus-like, but the chance of running on to one of those is slim to none. The best one can do is to keep ones system up to date, especially if you allow external access (ssh, ftp, www etc.), and delete mail from people you dont know. For my part I dualboot and have other windows machines in my home network so I use antivirus (clamav) on linux as a precaution, and to check mails. Hope that gives you an idea. /Kasper Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Setting up an extra hard disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 06:24, Hugh Dixon wrote: Just for clarification, when you say make back ups, the only files are the lilo.conf and fstab. Is this correct? (Having done this sort of thing on windows I was expecting it to be much harder...) All I do before I start is 'cp lilo.conf lilo.conf.bak' and the same for fstab if mounts are going to be changed. My rule is 'Never knowingly alter a config file without first creating a backup.' Some, such as smb.conf have a wealth of useful notes in the original which will be lost if you edit in, say, webmin. For those I make a copy called smb.conf.orig before I do anything with them, but use the '.bak' method after that, so that I can always re-read the comments of the original file. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJtg/kFAvMr/nNX8RApZ6AJ9t5NYIVtb2AEh7YECbYLJjDua5KQCeO/mR LaLiRc3TGZaQP1cG8j55n2c= =/7nd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Setting up an extra hard disk
On Thursday 03 March 2005 09:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote: For those I make a copy called smb.conf.orig before I do anything with them, but use the '.bak' method after that, so that I can always re-read the comments of the original file. ___ ~ maybe, it is handy to note Month,Day,Year . . . as in :- smb.conf.bak_030305 best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: How necessary is virus protection in linux _ Ones purpose may be prophylactic [ greek word for 'preventive' ]~ to prevent accidental transmission of virus, perhaps, by inadvertently 'forwarding' an infected message. For this purpose one may edit 'crontab' and add a tiny script, to run a scan on ones Mail directories. crontab -e [ will open crontab, in vim, so one can add/delete at will ] For this purpose, my CRON Daemon runs F-PROT each hour, to scan my Mail directories. best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
On Thursday 03 March 2005 02:41, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting info about this? Much better in Linux to focus on updating your packages, getting patches for vulnerabilities and keeping a general watch on security versus wasting time with phantom viruses. Now, if you have windows clients, it can be very useful to run an AV app to scan their messages for viruses to keep them from getting compromised. Most of us that run AV do it for that purpose. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Setting up an extra hard disk
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 07:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 12:13, Hugh Dixon wrote: Hugh - before going on to your query - when quoting, please always remove the signature if it has a line '-- ' because most mail readers take anything below that to be signature and remove it when someone wants to answer you. I'm not sure if this is part of the question (but it's a problem I had this evening, and got round it be changing the jumpers back) Easiest way ;-) If device hda becomes hdb because the master/slaves have been swapped, how do you update the linux/mandrake installation to look on a different disk? If you really want to change it, then you will need to make changes to lilo.conf before you swap the jumpers. Method 1 - somewhat dangerous First, back up /etc/lilo.conf mv lilo.conf lilo.conf.bak Near the beginning of /etc/lilo.conf you will see a line like boot=/dev/hda That needs to be changed to hdb Then in each stanza you will find that root is being told where to look - in my case root=/dev/hde12 which is partition 12 on drive hde. Keep the partition number, but change the hda to hdb in every place you find it. When you've finished you need to run lilo /sbin/lilo Do be aware that if you get this wrong you will need a rescue disk to sort it out. Method 2 - Probably a safer way is to use your CD1. I think you press Esc when it starts up - there's an on-screen message, so you should see it. One option then is Rescue - and one option on that is to repair your boot menu. That will safely do it for you. I'm sorry I can't be more explicit at this moment but I'm sure you will find it. Anne if you change the jumpers and forgot to fix fstab, you can boot into the first install cd of Mandrake, instead of enter to install, type f1 and then ' linux rescue', that will bring up a set of utilities that will find, mount and fix fstab. -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:15:26 +, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:14 pm, Christopher Taylor wrote: This is to help me in case I need to re-install In Linux, most things can be fixed, without re-installing. best rgds I'm still used to Windows. It would be nice not to have to re-install and loose all the data. I think I'm going to like this. Chris Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher - I know gmail does not make it easy to deal with the reply-to issue, so it is polite to put (either at the top or bottom of your messages) a reminder to readers that you are a gmail user, and they will need to use 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. Anne - -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT Date: Thursday 03 Mar 2005 12:05 From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 12:01, Christopher Taylor wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:15:26 +, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:14 pm, Christopher Taylor wrote: This is to help me in case I need to re-install In Linux, most things can be fixed, without re-installing. best rgds I'm still used to Windows. It would be nice not to have to re-install and loose all the data. I think I'm going to like this. Even better - you don't have to reboot every time you make a change. It's only when you've been using linux a while then come to do something on a friend's windows box that you realise just how much you hate that reboot ;-) Anne - - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJv2QkFAvMr/nNX8RAuD2AJ9eaLF87bGGB8ZBQVtkdqifqEryOgCeIr4Y X9qYhs3Gw16/b0x0PpB0b2M= =LPH2 - -END PGP SIGNATURE- - --- - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJv+EkFAvMr/nNX8RApUfAKCHBxxpR3mA9eBHUix3wx/lLm7olgCfRsDP awmtY9UsE0POz2ZE3LYy89o= =ZNoU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Forum post
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher, I just looked at your forum, particularly about the Samba problem. I did see that someone advised you to use LinNeighborhood (this is one of several options for viewing shares) and assumed that I had missed something in the thread. Neither LN nor anything else will help you if you have mistakes in your /etc/samba/smb.conf. If you have not edited that file yet make a backup file (cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig) before you edit. There's a lot of really useful comments in the file, but you will want a slimmer working copy. If you have already edited it, post a copy here. Have you added samba users yet? Again, ask if you need help. Please also make it clear which windows version(s) are running on the other boxes - there may be slight differences in what's needed. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJwCbkFAvMr/nNX8RAuNiAKCE9UPEMgeYwWgoAOto+2nRNJ4/ygCdHook JocAcBZvhucaWNNBE+J0xgI= =2Za+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT
On Thursday 03 March 2005 12:01 pm, Christopher Taylor wrote: nice not to have to re-install and loose all the data. _ ~ guess it is un-neccessary to lose any Data . . . ever :-O . . . have CRON Daemon do frequent backups of /home directory, using RSYNC script . . . like :- ___ #!/bin/sh # # use rsync to backup /home to /dev/hda6 # mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda6 /mnt # df cd rsync -avr --delete --delete-after /home /mnt df umount /mnt cd best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] how to install Globetrotter on my USB HDD?
Hi I like the Globetrotter HDD, but I already have the USB harddrive. Is there a way how to download and install Mandrake on my own USB HDD? And also, is there ISO image of Globetrotter mini CD? Thanks Michal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Setting up an extra hard disk
Thanks for that Anne. My experience of windows is going through the registry and ini files changing c: to d:. It makes sense that with the linux file structure fstab would be all that is required (plus the boot loader, which I think of as being 'linux support' rather than linux proper.) Hugh winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT
On Thursday 03 March 2005 13:01, Christopher Taylor wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:15:26 +, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:14 pm, Christopher Taylor wrote: This is to help me in case I need to re-install In Linux, most things can be fixed, without re-installing. best rgds I'm still used to Windows. It would be nice not to have to re-install and loose all the data. I think I'm going to like this. Chris One of the best things in linux is exactly that. Allow me an advice : use the partitioning wisely. If you keep especially your /home directory on a separate partition you can keep all your personal files, settings and whatnot forever. Next time you install a newer version or do a kernel upgrade, just don't format that partition and everything will work right away. A good partitioning scheme for a complete newbie could look like this : Make a root partition (/) of about 10 GB Make a swap partition equal to your RAM size Make a /home partition on the rest. ...and for the file system, use a journalling one, like ReiserFS, ext3, XFS or JFS. (no file system for the swap partition). Of course one can elaborate ad infinitum on this, but IMHO this is the basics. Enjoy... Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Quotas :o(
I'm trying to set up quotas on a LM8.1 server ( yes i know it needs upgrading, which is in progress but till then its still being used, and as usual they want it now ) using kernel 2.4.18-8.2mdk. I have quota-3.01-0.1mdk.ia64.rpm installed, and i have fstab set up. I can run quotacheck, which tells me it has updated and replaced the aquota.user and aquota.group files. I can add users with edquota username, and i can run repquota -av which gives me a listing of all the quota accounts i have added with their individual settings. my problem now is if i run quotaon /spare1, /spare1 is the partition i'm using for quotas, i get the following # quotaon /spare1 quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/sdb8: Invalid argument quotaon: quotactl() on /dev/sdb8: Invalid argument and because quotaon comes back with an error, its not turning quotas on adn it doesn't update the userquota data when they add/ remove files. if i run quotaon -avug i go back to the command line with no verbose or errors, but again checking user quotas, add/removing files does not change their quota used values. I've googled all night for info on the invalid argument, but can't find anything specific to my problem, i get lots of quotactl() man pages but there a bit beyond telling me where to look Had anybody any ideas they can pass to me. Many thanks Ken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] eBay graphics in Firefox.
For some reason eBay jpg graphics don't seem to show up in Firefox. I can save them OK, but they don't show up on the page. What needs to be set, or done, to show them? -- Thanks, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] eBay graphics in Firefox.
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:38:07 -0800 rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason eBay jpg graphics don't seem to show up in Firefox. I can save them OK, but they don't show up on the page. What needs to be set, or done, to show them? I never had such a problem; does it happen everytime or only in specific pages? -- Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] any question
Ive installed mandrakelinux for one month and Im very pleasured. I think, this is very good operating system. But, I have small problem. Ive got mobilphone with GPRS and I dont know how to join it with PC, because software for my phone is made for windows. Can you help me and tell me, how to do it? Or can you tell me what program can run windows applications?
Re: [newbie] any question
You could try Wine. Your software might not be listed as supported, but that doesn't always mean that it won't work. On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100, Stefan Tulak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. I think, this is very good operating system. But, I have small problem. I've got mobilphone with GPRS and I don't know how to join it with PC, because software for my phone is made for windows. Can you help me and tell me, how to do it? Or can you tell me what program can run windows applications? -- Christopher Taylor If this message is sent to a mailing list pleasse 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] eBay graphics in Firefox.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 14:20, Smiley wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:38:07 -0800 rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason eBay jpg graphics don't seem to show up in Firefox. I can save them OK, but they don't show up on the page. What needs to be set, or done, to show them? I never had such a problem; does it happen everytime or only in specific pages? -- I don't use FireFox, but I had a similar problem some time ago in Mozilla. It turned out that the cause was the setting to allow only graphics from the originating site. Some large sites have a separate server, apparently, for the graphics, so if you do that you have to explicitly enable graphic reception from that server. In Moz you can get the server name by hovering over a graphic. HTH Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJymfkFAvMr/nNX8RAhVPAJ0QO7ZZBdDIMWAVv7LqIca9fDUBegCeM3kV S/fc85Fi6A3aY1Gas3fgDbg= =cPGz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot execute ssh client application
Thanks Randall! That was it. I like your approach because I can choose who I want to give access to ssh. Bye for now, Janis --- Randall D. Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 07:46 pm, Janis Donald wrote: Hi, I have Mandrake 10.1 installed. When I try to run the ssh client as a normal user, I get the following error: $ ssh 192.168.0.2 -bash: /usr/bin/ssh: Permission denied When I 'su', I have no problem launching the application. How do I let regular users access the ssh client (or any other 'blocked' applications for that matter. I searched everywhere, but have not found any answers. Hi Janis. Typically, /usr/bin/ssh is only executable by root and anyone in the ntools group (if you 'stat /usr/bin/ssh', it should show it's owned by root, and the ntools group, and the permissions are probably 0750). Make sure your normal users are part of that group (as a secondary group), and they should be able to execute ssh without a problem. -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Acquire Technology, LLC Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.acquire-technology.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] vim error
I recently did a full install of M10.1 onto a blank hard disk. This is the first time I've run 10.1; it's *much* faster than 10.0 Official. Everything looks good, except whenever I fire up vi, I get the following message: E575: viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ^V4516^@ Hit ENTER or type command to continue I get the same message when I use shift-ZZ to exit. This happens in a konsole in KDE, and it also happens if I use ctrl-alt-F1 and log into a pty session. vi seems to *work* okay, it just gives me this odd message. Where should I look for a problem? -- == Dave Williams == [EMAIL PROTECTED] == then we race together / we can ride forever = '97 Bandit 1200 == wrapped in horsepower / driving into fury == DoD #978 = http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/index.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
riccardo wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: How necessary is virus protection in linux _ Ones purpose may be prophylactic [ greek word for 'preventive' ]~ to prevent accidental transmission of virus, perhaps, by inadvertently 'forwarding' an infected message. For this purpose one may edit 'crontab' and add a tiny script, to run a scan on ones Mail directories. crontab -e [ will open crontab, in vim, so one can add/delete at will ] For this purpose, my CRON Daemon runs F-PROT each hour, to scan my Mail directories. best rgds If you don't like using vim, you can set EDITOR to your editor of choice, and that will be used for commands like crontab, vipw, vigr, etc. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:52 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If you don't like using vim, you can set EDITOR to your editor of choice _ JOE [joe] is nice ~ similar to WordStar, i believe. best rgds ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] eBay graphics in Firefox.
Hello Smiley, Thursday, March 3, 2005, 6:20:25 AM, Smiley wrote: S On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:38:07 -0800 S rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason eBay jpg graphics don't seem to show up in Firefox. I can save them OK, but they don't show up on the page. What needs to be set, or done, to show them? S I never had such a problem; does it happen everytime or only in S specific pages? Every time. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] eBay graphics in Firefox.
Hello Anne, Thursday, March 3, 2005, 7:13:35 AM, Anne wrote: AW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AW Hash: SHA1 AW On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 14:20, Smiley wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:38:07 -0800 rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason eBay jpg graphics don't seem to show up in Firefox. I can save them OK, but they don't show up on the page. What needs to be set, or done, to show them? I never had such a problem; does it happen everytime or only in specific pages? -- AW I don't use FireFox, but I had a similar problem some time ago in AW Mozilla. It turned out that the cause was the setting to allow AW only graphics from the originating site. Some large sites have a AW separate server, apparently, for the graphics, so if you do that AW you have to explicitly enable graphic reception from that server. AW In Moz you can get the server name by hovering over a graphic. Bingo! That was it. Never would have guessed because when you hover on a graphic, it shows the SAME site. Looking at the source code, though, it seems that it DOES send you to a different site when you click or load. Just like the phishers. :-) In general, not a good thing for privacy, though, which is why I had it off in the first place. Still have it set 'from the originating site', but I put in the other ebay sites as exceptions. Works fine. Thanks! -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Appache won't work
Dears I just upgraded to 10.1. My Appache did not work. I get the following error what is up? Can anyone help? Starting httpd-perl: [ OK ] Starting httpd2: Syntax error on line 44 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf: SSLCertificateFile: file '/etc/ssl/apache2/server.crt' does not exist or is empty [FAILED] Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] eBay graphics in Firefox.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 18:44, rikona wrote: Hello Anne, Thursday, March 3, 2005, 7:13:35 AM, Anne wrote: AW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AW Hash: SHA1 AW On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 14:20, Smiley wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:38:07 -0800 rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason eBay jpg graphics don't seem to show up in Firefox. I can save them OK, but they don't show up on the page. What needs to be set, or done, to show them? I never had such a problem; does it happen everytime or only in specific pages? -- AW I don't use FireFox, but I had a similar problem some time ago in AW Mozilla. It turned out that the cause was the setting to allow AW only graphics from the originating site. Some large sites have a AW separate server, apparently, for the graphics, so if you do that AW you have to explicitly enable graphic reception from that server. AW In Moz you can get the server name by hovering over a graphic. Bingo! That was it. Never would have guessed because when you hover on a graphic, it shows the SAME site. Looking at the source code, though, it seems that it DOES send you to a different site when you click or load. Just like the phishers. :-) In general, not a good thing for privacy, though, which is why I had it off in the first place. Still have it set 'from the originating site', but I put in the other ebay sites as exceptions. Works fine. I totally agree. I much prefer to switch it off. Setting the exceptions is the only way round that, but it's a real pain. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJ13/kFAvMr/nNX8RAoUhAJ9dS5SQB8izkqROplQFcFOjpRmWfwCdFSQ0 Ic2EA34f3LNt9R+vgt+ZJeU= =57yE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Suggestions for replacement applications
I am slowing making the transition from W2K to Linux. Two of the applications that I miss the most are MS Money and Macromedia Dreamweaver. I am looking for a good Linux alternative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, JB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Appache won't work
OOzy Pal wrote: Dears I just upgraded to 10.1. My Appache did not work. I get the following error what is up? Can anyone help? Starting httpd-perl: [ OK ] Starting httpd2: Syntax error on line 44 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf: SSLCertificateFile: file '/etc/ssl/apache2/server.crt' does not exist or is empty [FAILED] Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? Are you trying to use ssl? Is /etc/ssl/apache2/server.crt the correct file for your ssl certificate? You ether need to edit /etc/httpd/conf.d/41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf so it uses the correct, file, rename the .crt file to server.crt, and make sure it is in /etc/ssl/apache2 directory, or disable mod)ssl in you mail config file. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Appache won't work
I am not trying to use ssl and I don't have any crt. How can I disable it. OOzy --- Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OOzy Pal wrote: Dears I just upgraded to 10.1. My Appache did not work. I get the following error what is up? Can anyone help? Starting httpd-perl: [ OK ] Starting httpd2: Syntax error on line 44 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf: SSLCertificateFile: file '/etc/ssl/apache2/server.crt' does not exist or is empty [FAILED] Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? Are you trying to use ssl? Is /etc/ssl/apache2/server.crt the correct file for your ssl certificate? You ether need to edit /etc/httpd/conf.d/41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf so it uses the correct, file, rename the .crt file to server.crt, and make sure it is in /etc/ssl/apache2 directory, or disable mod)ssl in you mail config file. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Upgrading KDE
Hello everyone. This is my first posting to this list, and I'm quite pleased that this list exsists at all. Thanks for taking the time to read this. After searching through the list archive, I couldn't find an answer to my question, so I thought I'd ask here. Please excuse me if this has been answered already. Anyway, what I want to know is, how much of a pain is upgrading to KDE 3.3, and what the best/most painless way to go about it? I have the thracs.rpms repository added. Is it really as simple as 'init 3', and 'urpmi kdebase-3.3.3-20'?? I've also heard people suggest adding the cooker repository and upgrading that way, but I'm rather leery of doing that, since I don't *really* want to run an unstable distro, no matter how stable it actually is. Also, if I do the kdebase upgrade, and still have older parts of KDE installed (Kopete, amaroK, etc.), will it blow up, or just run them until I upgrade those parts too? Sorry about multiple questions here, but I'm trying to avoid having to re-install, (which would be my kneejerk reaction if the KDE upgrade doesn't work). --Phlod Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Appache won't work
OOzy Pal wrote: I am not trying to use ssl and I don't have any crt. How can I disable it. OOzy Probably the simplest way would be to remove the apache2-mod_ssl package. You can ether use the GUI interface to remove packages, or run urpme apache2-mod_ssl as root. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. ^^ Now /there's/ a thread for the Off-Topic list if I've ever seen one. Do you own any goats? -- Chuck MATTSEN / mattsen at arvig dot net / Mahnomen, MN, USA RLU #346519 / Mandrakelinux 10.2-Cooker / 2.6.10-1.mm.18mdk MT Lookup: http://eot.com/~mattsen/mtsearch.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] how to edit /etc/exports
pls tell me the way v can edit /etc/exports. way v can mount it. ex:- my folder is: - /home/pub/test how can i mount this folder from another one. -- ... ts! Preparing today for Linux tomorrow! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Chuck MATTSEN wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. ^^ Now /there's/ a thread for the Off-Topic list if I've ever seen one. Do you own any goats? You don't actually have to *own* goats to join the OT list, but it helps if you enjoy their company ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ What is tolerance? -- it is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly -- that is the first law of nature. - Voltaire ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading KDE
On Thursday 03 March 2005 02:33 pm, Phlod wrote: Hello everyone. This is my first posting to this list, and I'm quite pleased that this list exsists at all. Thanks for taking the time to read this. After searching through the list archive, I couldn't find an answer to my question, so I thought I'd ask here. Please excuse me if this has been answered already. Anyway, what I want to know is, how much of a pain is upgrading to KDE 3.3, and what the best/most painless way to go about it? I have the thracs.rpms repository added. Is it really as simple as 'init 3', and 'urpmi kdebase-3.3.3-20'?? I've also heard people suggest adding the cooker repository and upgrading that way, but I'm rather leery of doing that, since I don't *really* want to run an unstable distro, no matter how stable it actually is. Also, if I do the kdebase upgrade, and still have older parts of KDE installed (Kopete, amaroK, etc.), will it blow up, or just run them until I upgrade those parts too? Sorry about multiple questions here, but I'm trying to avoid having to re-install, (which would be my kneejerk reaction if the KDE upgrade doesn't work). --Phlod Is there some specific reason you want to upgrade? I find the current stable version to be quite adequate. At any rate, doing an upgrade from kde may be a problem from what I have read on various forums. It seems to depend on the level of expertise and time to do all the dependencies. But, if someone like PLF or ESLRAHC site has them built for Mandrake 10.1 then give it a go. Anyone else want to jump in here? It only hurts when you laugh. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(
On Thursday 03 March 2005 08:22 am, Ken Walker wrote: I'm trying to set up quotas on a LM8.1 server Ken hey Ken, if you want an answer around here, then don't mass mail the same question to both newbie and expert -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thursday 03 March 2005 09:34 am, Stefan Tulak wrote: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. I think, this is very good operating system. But, I have small problem. I've got mobilphone with GPRS and I don't know how to join it with PC, because software for my phone is made for windows. Can you help me and tell me, how to do it? Or can you tell me what program can run windows applications? depends on the protocol used... is it bluethooth? urpmq --fuzzy blue bluefish bluez-bluefw bluez-hcidump bluez-hciemu bluez-pin bluez-utils bluez-utils-cups gnome-bluephone gnome-bluetooth kdebluetooth kdebluetooth-devel libbluez1 libbluez1-devel multisync-irmc_bluetooth maybe one of those are what you need? -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] IRC Client
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:50:54 +0100 Kasper Thunoe disseminated the following: Aron Smith disseminated the following: anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client? BTW, who the hell are all those people on #mandrake?? I didn't recognize one name from the list... got a lot of newbies ;-D XChat is by far the best client. Thats what I think anyways :-) @ Aron Joe: What are your irc nicks? just joehill pour moi, I would assume Aron's is 'buttmuncher' or somesuch... /ducks Anyhow, I was just checkin' it out, I don't have a lot of time to spend on idle chat. Wife, two young'uns, you know the drill. -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:19:11 up 10 days, 20:22, 10 users, load average: 0.11, 0.06, 0.01 +++ Some may never live, but the crazy never die. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Il gio, 2005-03-03 alle 15:34, Stefan Tulak ha scritto: Ive installed mandrakelinux for one month and Im very pleasured. Ive got mobilphone with GPRS and I dont know how to join it with PC, because software for my phone is made for windows. Can you help me and tell me, how to do it? Or can you tell me what program can run windows applications? Linux(and windows) side programs : Gnokii http://www.gnokii.org/ http://urtica.linuxnews.pl/~pkot/gnokii/gnokii.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnokii-users/2005-02/threads.html http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1694378/com/gnokii-0.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm.html http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1694379/com/gnokii-xgnokii-0.6.4-4mdk.i586.rpm.html http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1665963/com/multisync-gnokii-0.82.20041130-4mdk.i586.rpm.html Wammu-Gammu http://www.mwiacek.com/gsm/soft/gammu.html http://www.cihar.com/gammu/wammu/ http://mobile.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/18/2052226from=rss http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1499941/com/gammu-0.99.0-1mdk.i586.rpm.html http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1570750/com/wammu-0.8-3mdk.noarch.rpm.html http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1492535/com/python-gammu-0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm.html http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1692182/com/wxPythonGTK-2.5.3.1-2mdk.i586.rpm.html kmobiletools http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1657604/com/kmobiletools-0.4.2-alt1.i586.rpm.html gnome-phone-manager : http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1522097/com/gnome-phone-manager-0.4-3mdk.i586.rpm.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] IRC Client
On Thursday 03 March 2005 03:22 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:50:54 +0100 Kasper Thunoe disseminated the following: Aron Smith disseminated the following: anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client? BTW, who the hell are all those people on #mandrake?? I didn't recognize one name from the list... got a lot of newbies ;-D XChat is by far the best client. Thats what I think anyways :-) @ Aron Joe: What are your irc nicks? just joehill pour moi, I would assume Aron's is 'buttmuncher' or somesuch... it's aron /ducks Anyhow, I was just checkin' it out, I don't have a lot of time to spend on idle chat. Wife, two young'uns, you know the drill. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions for replacement applications
On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:04, hackhound wrote: I am slowing making the transition from W2K to Linux. Two of the applications that I miss the most are MS Money and Macromedia Dreamweaver. I am looking for a good Linux alternative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, JB Both MS Money and Dreamweaver will work under Linux if you purchase Crossover Office (www.codeweavers.com) Crossover is a commercial version of Wine. You could use the standard free version of Wine, but it can be a lot harder getting apps to work. The guys at Codeweavers have done a great job at making Windows apps easy to install and run. (and they are the single largest contributor to the Wine project www.winehq.org ) As for Native Linux applications instead of MSMoney you can try Gnucash (on your CDs) www.gnucash.org, or Moneydance moneydance.com (non free), but personally I do not think they are as good as the Quicken I use under Crossover. As for a Dreamweaver alternative, I have never used it and do not know its capabilities. I make my web pages with Quanta (its on your CDs). Open Office also does a decent job of generating HTML. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions for replacement applications
On Thursday 03 March 2005 23:50, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:04, hackhound wrote: I am slowing making the transition from W2K to Linux. Two of the applications that I miss the most are MS Money and Macromedia Dreamweaver. I am looking for a good Linux alternative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, JB Both MS Money and Dreamweaver will work under Linux if you purchase Crossover Office (www.codeweavers.com) Crossover is a commercial version of Wine. You could use the standard free version of Wine, but it can be a lot harder getting apps to work. The guys at Codeweavers have done a great job at making Windows apps easy to install and run. (and they are the single largest contributor to the Wine project www.winehq.org ) As for Native Linux applications instead of MSMoney you can try Gnucash (on your CDs) www.gnucash.org, or Moneydance moneydance.com (non free), but personally I do not think they are as good as the Quicken I use under Crossover. As for a Dreamweaver alternative, I have never used it and do not know its capabilities. I make my web pages with Quanta (its on your CDs). Open Office also does a decent job of generating HTML. HTH derek Correction to my previous post. MS Money is not officially supported by Codeweavers, although posts on their support site mention people running it on the latest release. DreamweaverMX works quite well, but Dreamweaver MX2004 does not yet work. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading KDE
On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:33, Phlod wrote: Hello everyone. This is my first posting to this list, and I'm quite pleased that this list exsists at all. Thanks for taking the time to read this. After searching through the list archive, I couldn't find an answer to my question, so I thought I'd ask here. Please excuse me if this has been answered already. Anyway, what I want to know is, how much of a pain is upgrading to KDE 3.3, and what the best/most painless way to go about it? I have the thracs.rpms repository added. Is it really as simple as 'init 3', and 'urpmi kdebase-3.3.3-20'?? I've also heard people suggest adding the cooker repository and upgrading that way, but I'm rather leery of doing that, since I don't *really* want to run an unstable distro, no matter how stable it actually is. Also, if I do the kdebase upgrade, and still have older parts of KDE installed (Kopete, amaroK, etc.), will it blow up, or just run them until I upgrade those parts too? Sorry about multiple questions here, but I'm trying to avoid having to re-install, (which would be my kneejerk reaction if the KDE upgrade doesn't work). --Phlod Actually you do not even need the 'init 3' You can upgrade KDE while you are running it. Just do not try opening any new applications while you are halfway through the upgrade. Do NOT add Cooker repository unless you want to upgrade your entire system to Cooker. Even though you only want to install KDE you will find 100's of other packages will get pulled in as dependencies. As soon as you upgrade kdebase with urpmi, any other application which depends on kdebase will also get upgraded. That means most KDE apps. And of course if you screw it all up you will still be able to log in with a different Window Manager. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] IRC Client
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:44:09 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: it's aron ...what happened to 'smitty'? I always kinda liked that. Has that down-home, hangin' out at the general store, smokin' a big bunch o' bionic chronic kinda thang... Anyhow, you knows I's kiddin' ya, ya big galoot :-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:13:32 up 10 days, 21:16, 10 users, load average: 0.15, 0.07, 0.01 +++ Avoid being seized by the police. The cops are not your friends. Don't tell them anything. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:17:24 up 10 days, 21:20, 10 users, load average: 0.15, 0.08, 0.02 +++ Some may never live, but the crazy never die. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] IRC Client
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:16 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:44:09 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: it's aron ...what happened to 'smitty'? I always kinda liked that. Has that down-home, hangin' out at the general store, smokin' a big bunch o' bionic chronic kinda thang... Anyhow, you knows I's kiddin' ya, ya big galoot :-) Actualy it's evilaron Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. must be 10.1 interactive p0rn edition ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
On Thursday 03 March 2005 12:59 pm, riccardo wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:52 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If you don't like using vim, you can set EDITOR to your editor of choice _ JOE [joe] is nice ~ similar to WordStar, i believe. best rgds ___ and I like jed -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:33 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. must be 10.1 interactive p0rn edition ;-) that's Stephen and mines,,, dirty old MANdrake... dvd edition further details only available on the OT list -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading KDE
Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:33, Phlod wrote: Hello everyone. This is my first posting to this list, and I'm quite pleased that this list exsists at all. Thanks for taking the time to read this. After searching through the list archive, I couldn't find an answer to my question, so I thought I'd ask here. Please excuse me if this has been answered already. Anyway, what I want to know is, how much of a pain is upgrading to KDE 3.3, and what the best/most painless way to go about it? I have the thracs.rpms repository added. Is it really as simple as 'init 3', and 'urpmi kdebase-3.3.3-20'?? I've also heard people suggest adding the cooker repository and upgrading that way, but I'm rather leery of doing that, since I don't *really* want to run an unstable distro, no matter how stable it actually is. Also, if I do the kdebase upgrade, and still have older parts of KDE installed (Kopete, amaroK, etc.), will it blow up, or just run them until I upgrade those parts too? Sorry about multiple questions here, but I'm trying to avoid having to re-install, (which would be my kneejerk reaction if the KDE upgrade doesn't work). --Phlod Actually you do not even need the 'init 3' You can upgrade KDE while you are running it. Just do not try opening any new applications while you are halfway through the upgrade. Do NOT add Cooker repository unless you want to upgrade your entire system to Cooker. Even though you only want to install KDE you will find 100's of other packages will get pulled in as dependencies. As soon as you upgrade kdebase with urpmi, any other application which depends on kdebase will also get upgraded. That means most KDE apps. And of course if you screw it all up you will still be able to log in with a different Window Manager. derek Derek, you are, as of now, my personal saviour. ;) Thank you for answering the questions even Google was unable to shed much light upon, and, for pointing out what should have been obvious to me in the first place; I can just use another WM if the KDE upgrade goes south. Wow, running Windows for so many years has really got my brain fixated on just one desktop, and if that goes to hell, it's time to reinstall. Gotta break out of that way of thinking. Thanks again. --Phlod Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. Very funny comment indeed, Joe :-( I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most Americans here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet received the divine blessing of being brought up in the English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by the Lord. I'll admit that for sure. And I can't for the sake of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ??? That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and mis-syntaxing. A few years ago this list was friendlier. Sorry for my bad English.. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Forum post
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:18:35 +, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher, I just looked at your forum, particularly about the Samba problem. I did see that someone advised you to use LinNeighborhood (this is one of several options for viewing shares) and assumed that I had missed something in the thread. Neither LN nor anything else will help you if you have mistakes in your /etc/samba/smb.conf. If you have not edited that file yet make a backup file (cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig) before you edit. There's a lot of really useful comments in the file, but you will want a slimmer working copy. If you have already edited it, post a copy here. Have you added samba users yet? Again, ask if you need help. Please also make it clear which windows version(s) are running on the other boxes - there may be slight differences in what's needed. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCJwCbkFAvMr/nNX8RAuNiAKCE9UPEMgeYwWgoAOto+2nRNJ4/ygCdHook JocAcBZvhucaWNNBE+J0xgI= =2Za+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Here is the contents of the file. Sorry so big. I removed all lines starting with # to try and reduce the size. Should I have sent as an attachment? [global] workgroup = MSHOME server string = Samba Server %v message command = /usr/bin/linpopup %f %m %s; rm %s printcap name = cups load printers = yes printing = cups printer admin = @adm log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 map to guest = bad user security = user encrypt passwords = yes smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd unix password sync = Yes pam password change = yes passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *Re*ype*new*UNIX*password* %n\n \ ;*passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully* username map = /etc/samba/smbusers socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 /usr/share/samba/scripts/smbldap-groupshow.pl %g|awk '/^gidNumber:/ {print $2}' dns proxy = no [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes ;[printers] ;comment = All Printers ;path = /var/spool/samba ;browseable = no # to allow user 'guest account' to print. ;guest ok = yes ;writable = no ;printable = yes ;create mode = 0700 ;print command = lpr-cups -P %p -o raw %s -r # using client side printer drivers. ;use client driver = yes [print$] path = /var/lib/samba/printers browseable = yes write list = @adm root guest ok = yes inherit permissions = yes [pdf-gen] path = /var/tmp guest ok = No printable = Yes comment = PDF Generator (only valid users) printing = bsd printcap name = cups #print command = /usr/share/samba/scripts/print-pdf file path win_path recipient IP print command = /usr/share/samba/scripts/print-pdf %s %H //%L/%u %m %I %J lpq command = /bin/true ;[tmp] ; comment = Temporary file space ; path = /tmp ; read only = no ; public = yes [public] comment = Public Stuff path = /home/samba/public public = yes writable = no write list = @staff ;[fredsprn] ; comment = Fred's Printer ; valid users = fred ; path = /homes/fred ; printer = freds_printer ; public = no ; writable = no ; printable = yes ;[fredsdir] ; comment = Fred's Service ; path = /usr/somewhere/private ; valid users = fred ; public = no ; writable = yes ; printable = no ;[pchome] ; comment = PC Directories ; path = /usr/pc/%m ; public = no ; writable = yes ;[myshare] ; comment = Mary's and Fred's stuff ; path = /usr/somewhere/shared ; valid users = mary fred ; public = no ; writable = yes ; printable = no ; create mask = 0765 [HPPhotoSmart|HPPhotoSmart] printer = HPPhotoSmart comment = HPPhotoSmart printable = yes browseable = no create mode = 0700 writable = yes guest ok = yes -- Christopher Taylor If this message is sent to a mailing list please 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading KDE
Derek Jennings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:33, Phlod wrote: Hello everyone. This is my first posting to this list, and I'm quite pleased that this list exsists at all. Thanks for taking the time to read this. After searching through the list archive, I couldn't find an answer to my question, so I thought I'd ask here. Please excuse me if this has been answered already. Anyway, what I want to know is, how much of a pain is upgrading to KDE 3.3, and what the best/most painless way to go about it? I have the thracs.rpms repository added. Is it really as simple as 'init 3', and 'urpmi kdebase-3.3.3-20'?? I've also heard people suggest adding the cooker repository and upgrading that way, but I'm rather leery of doing that, since I don't *really* want to run an unstable distro, no matter how stable it actually is. Also, if I do the kdebase upgrade, and still have older parts of KDE installed (Kopete, amaroK, etc.), will it blow up, or just run them until I upgrade those parts too? Sorry about multiple questions here, but I'm trying to avoid having to re-install, (which would be my kneejerk reaction if the KDE upgrade doesn't work). --Phlod Actually you do not even need the 'init 3' You can upgrade KDE while you are running it. Just do not try opening any new applications while you are halfway through the upgrade. Do NOT add Cooker repository unless you want to upgrade your entire system to Cooker. Even though you only want to install KDE you will find 100's of other packages will get pulled in as dependencies. As soon as you upgrade kdebase with urpmi, any other application which depends on kdebase will also get upgraded. That means most KDE apps. And of course if you screw it all up you will still be able to log in with a different Window Manager. And just to add something to this advice, Phlod, before you do upgrade, list all the packages you currently have installed. The best way would be to use the command-line (konsole, xterm, etc..) by typing at the prompt: $ rpm -qa |grep -i kde | sort ~/kde_rpms.list or some other filename, you may have to do that as root, if your user is not in the *rpm* group. This will get you most, if not all, of the kde packages. Beats writing them down .. derek Sorry to hijack Derek, just thought it might help ;) -- RickS gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed. --Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thursday 03 March 2005 05:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. Very funny comment indeed, Joe :-( I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most Americans here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet received the divine blessing of being brought up in the English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by the Lord. I'll admit that for sure. And I can't for the sake of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ??? That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and mis-syntaxing. A few years ago this list was friendlier. Sorry for my bad English.. Kaji ..If you give this bunch a bad pun they, will give you even worse puns in return Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:16:07 +0100 Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following: Sorry for my bad English.. Holy crap, Kaj, it was just a joke. Sorry if it offended anyone. It wasn't in any way meant to make fun of someone's linguistic abilities, one way or the other. Just a play on words that to one person mean one thing, but can be interpreted so differently by another, of course coming out of a differences in syntactictal formations between languages. Anyhow, sorry again, didn't intend any malice, and I'll be more careful in the future not to exploit such opportunities for my own laffs, okay? -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 20:44:08 up 10 days, 22:47, 10 users, load average: 0.29, 0.82, 0.76 +++ Some may never live, but the crazy never die. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Friday 04 March 2005 02:57, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 05:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. Very funny comment indeed, Joe :-( I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most Americans here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet received the divine blessing of being brought up in the English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by the Lord. I'll admit that for sure. And I can't for the sake of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ??? That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and mis-syntaxing. A few years ago this list was friendlier. Sorry for my bad English.. Kaji ..If you give this bunch a bad pun they, will give you even worse puns in return Huh...? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
You could try k-phone under office-communications-phone-kphone Roly On Thursday 03 March 2005 06:34 am, Stefan Tulak wrote: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. I think, this is very good operating system. But, I have small problem. I've got mobilphone with GPRS and I don't know how to join it with PC, because software for my phone is made for windows. Can you help me and tell me, how to do it? Or can you tell me what program can run windows applications? -- MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe! Linux Counter #241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Friday 04 March 2005 02:57, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:16:07 +0100 Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following: Sorry for my bad English.. Holy crap, Kaj, it was just a joke. Sorry if it offended anyone. It wasn't in any way meant to make fun of someone's linguistic abilities, one way or the other. Just a play on words that to one person mean one thing, but can be interpreted so differently by another, of course coming out of a differences in syntactictal formations between languages. Anyhow, sorry again, didn't intend any malice, and I'll be more careful in the future not to exploit such opportunities for my own laffs, okay? OK Joe. -- We are all in the freedom business, so let us concentrate on essentials rather than formalities Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thursday 03 March 2005 06:12 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 02:57, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 05:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. Very funny comment indeed, Joe :-( I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most Americans here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet received the divine blessing of being brought up in the English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by the Lord. I'll admit that for sure. And I can't for the sake of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ??? That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and mis-syntaxing. A few years ago this list was friendlier. Sorry for my bad English.. Kaji ..If you give this bunch a bad pun they, will give you even worse puns in return Huh...? Pun a deliberate misuse of the language for (so-called) humor proper response to a pin is groan Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Forum post
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:27:18 -0500 Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the contents of the file. Sorry so big. I removed all lines starting with # to try and reduce the size. Should I have sent as an attachment? It's better to post as text than an attachment. Not sure about sympa, but some listservers don't even allow attachments. eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:14:37 -0500 Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to linux in general (1 week) and have decided to put my individual experiences on the internet in a forum format. I have posted small messages for each of the experiences that I have had in the past week. This is to help me in case I need to re-install and need to remember what I needed to do to get things to work. I also hope that it may help others. I have posted here to find out if this is a good idea or not. The link is http://mandrake.cjt-design.com. Different members of the list have helped me and I hope that I can return the favor in the future. Christopher Taylor Welcome to Mandrake, Christopher! Another place you can post articles on Linux solutions is the Twiki at http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org It's been awhile since i did a test run of pretending i was new to it, so if you do try to submit or use it, and run into trouble, let us know. I'm sometimes a little slow on my list reading these days, so feel free to cc me directly when you post. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question (about GPRS software, etc)
I see that there is a huge selection of software for talking to your GPRS phone, but what I need to know (related question) is: What hardware do I need on the PC side in order to communicate with the cellphone? If I have an oldish Thinkpad with IrDA, will that do? Alternatively, can I use wlan cards for Bluetooth? cheers Duncan (Argh, these new-fangled telephonic devices befuddle my dinosaur brain ... what happened to acoustic-coupler modems?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] vim error
Dave Williams wrote: E575: viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ^V4516^@ Hit ENTER or type command to continue I get the same message when I use shift-ZZ to exit. This happens in a konsole in KDE, and it also happens if I use ctrl-alt-F1 and log into a pty session. vi seems to *work* okay, it just gives me this odd message. That is wierd, Dave. I have been using 10.1 for a while now, and I have never seen a message like that, and I use vim/vi all the time. I have used vi under KDE in both konsoles and xterms and I have not seen such messages. Does this message appear when you specify a file as an argument to the editor? Does it appear when you run vi on its own? It sounds to me that the editor is complaining about '^V' which has a significance similar to \ in the shell. It would be odd to begin a line with it. What happens when you specify the -b option to vi? cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] vim error
Dave Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I recently did a full install of M10.1 onto a blank hard disk. This is the first time I've run 10.1; it's *much* faster than 10.0 Official. Everything looks good, except whenever I fire up vi, I get the following message: E575: viminfo: Illegal starting char in line: ^V4516^@ Hit ENTER or type command to continue I get the same message when I use shift-ZZ to exit. This happens in a konsole in KDE, and it also happens if I use ctrl-alt-F1 and log into a pty session. vi seems to *work* okay, it just gives me this odd message. Where should I look for a problem? Hi Dave, I am not a vim guru but have been using it (a year) and still RTFM, but typing :help E575 led me to doc/starting.txt file and this: *viminfo-errors* When Vim detects an error while reading a viminfo file, it will not overwrite that file. If there are more than 10 errors, Vim stops reading the viminfo file. This was done to avoid accidentally destroying a file when the file name of the viminfo file is wrong. This could happen when accidentally typing vim -i file when you wanted vim -R file (yes, somebody accidentally did that!). If you want to overwrite a viminfo file with an error in it, you will either have to fix the error, or delete the file (while Vim is running, so most of the information will be restored). Guessing at a solution: 1. you could try the above method to restore the file. 2. you could *mv* the file to rename it and let vim create another one. 3. Did you update your new 10.1 install ? there was a security fix for vim. or remove vim and re-install it .. or try the mailing list at http://www.vim.org/community.php or the archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim HTH -- RickS gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed. --Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. must be 10.1 interactive p0rn edition ;-) Aron; Close but no cigar! Truth be told, no one ever told Joe NOT to attempt scratch-mixing with his CD drive during a Mandrake install. Now, you know as well as the rest of us that he just can't leave some things alone and he loves to play with stuff, so we figured that we'd let him have his fun. It's been one of our secrets for a long time now and it usually brings a smile to our faces when he's been having a hard time making things work on his PC, so don't let him know, OK? *snicker!* -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Aron Smith wrote: must be 10.1 interactive p0rn edition ;-) Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet? After all they seem to have just about every other type of conceivable distro! At least they'd have a good reason to spend a few minutes holding up the CD with one hand! OOOhh! That was rude and tasteless! My bad! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:20:28 -0500 Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet? LinuXXX? Sinux? -- Chuck MATTSEN / mattsen at arvig dot net / Mahnomen, MN, USA RLU #346519 / Mandrakelinux 10.2-Cooker / 2.6.10-1.mm.18mdk MT Lookup: http://eot.com/~mattsen/mtsearch.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Chuck MATTSEN wrote: On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:20:28 -0500 Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet? LinuXXX? Hmmm - That could work! We could even add videos of Pamela Anderson, and, Ah, No, everyone's seen those. Sinux? This one wouldn't work well. Some Microsoft geek would turn it into S-UX or something. Either that or they'd confuse it with a cold remedy. I like your first one better. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: How necessary is virus protection in linux Not very. There are very few viruses or worms that are out there (That work) for UNIX-based systems. It's reported that there has never been a successful virus written for Mac OS X. Not to say they don't exist (Spyware/Addware is even less of a worry, as almost all OSS is devoid of it). Your greatest worry is recieving a virus for Windows that you accidentally forward on to Windows-users in emails. SigmaX -- Registered Linux Freak #: 366,862 If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:26:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **: 5. List Etiquette We have prepared a page describing common mailing list etiquette that will make your posts more effective and make fellow list members happier to help. It can be found at the community Twiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette May I suggest discouraging shouting as # 11 and renaming # 11 to # 12 ? (Just in case: wherein 'shouting' means ALL LINES CAPS ON; or entire subject CAPS ON: I usually ignore them). Thanks and bye, =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] bison
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 00:54:40 +0200, Mohammed Badran wrote about Re: [newbie] bison: you can get bison from ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/10.2/i586/media/main/bison-2.0- 1mdk.i586.rpm and it needs m4 to be installed also from here ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/10.2/i586/media/main/m4-1.4.2-1 mdk.i586.rpm It can work, but is generally not a good idea to install a Cooker package on a stable version. It could lead you into more and more conflicts if you do this more often. If you cannot resist and cannot find an equivalent for your current version, then it is better to obtain the .src.rpm package and rebuild for your stable version. (command: rpmbuild --rebuild) Bye =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet? LinuXXX? Sinux? Hmmm. porno on linuxall the filth you want for your eyes, but none for your hard drive (virus's, ad/spy/malware). I hope Micro$oft doesn't hear about this, they might spread rumours that because linux doesn't support adware it therefore encourages browsing for porn. M$ has referred to Linux as a cancer before, might it now be 'the cancer that causes the moral decline of society'? ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KGPG
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:03:40 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote about Re: [newbie] KGPG: I think it has more to do with the massage passing through the mailing list. It changes a couple of things, like the replyto address. It may also change something in the body of the message. Any changes to the body of the message make the signiture invalid. Mikkel I have seen this claimed even by the most experienced Linux users around on any of the sympa lists, but how can it be explained that I have never encountered one message returned to me by any of the sympa lists that had an invalid signature? And I did check them all. :)) Cheers, =Dick Gevers= pgpE44738WfjO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable I have read the threads at k3b on this matter but am still unable to use k3b with confidence. Have 4 dvd-r coasters already. So hopefully someone here can assist in getting me to burn dvd's ? I'm running Mandrake 10 official at present. So far I have: k3b-0.11.1-15mdk libk3b1-0.11.1-15mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.13-0.1mdk dvd+rw-tools-5.20.4.10.8-0.1mdk cdrdao-1.1.8-2mdk cdrecord-2.01-0.a36.0.1mdk cdrecord-devel-2.01-0.a27.2mdk cdrecord-cdda2wav-2.01-0.a28.1mdk plus these also in case I've missed something: gstreamer-cdparanoia-0.6.4-4mdk xpcd-2.08-20mdk kdemultimedia-kscd-3.2-14mdk vcdimager-0.7.20-2mdk libcdio0-0.65-3mdk libvcd0-0.7.20-2mdk magicdev-1.1.5-6mdk libcddb-slave2_0-2.4.1.1-1mdk libkdemultimedia1-kscd-3.2-14mdk cdp-0.33-16mdk xcdroast-0.98-32.alpha15.1mdk.cae libcdda0-IIIa9.8-8mdk cdparanoia-IIIa9.8-8mdk gstreamer-cdplayer-0.6.4-4mdk cdialog-0.9b-4mdk nautilus-cd-burner-0.6.1-2mdk xpcd-gimp-2.08-20.1.100mdk I have also checked to be sure that the read only option is unchecked. So I still get the dreaded Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable even though I have done permissions as per the forum on k3b and changed them back again. I have also attempted to direct things with k3b-setup by trying to include the path /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format but it doesn't appear to stick. I have also uninstalled versions that appeared not to match and installed packages specifically for Mandrake10 only. k3b appears to start up more friendly as user [ using the CLI ] than it does as root, so I'm not sure what to make of that at present. ( Two logged strings as opposed to dozens as root. More GUI problems as root I think.) So how do I get to burn data dvd's to dvd-r discs? - Er... hopefully using k3b? What was happening to start me on the upgrade path was that k3b was writing nothing to the dvd-r disc but somehow cooking it anyway whilst xcdroast would get 3-4% along with the burning then simply stop and after a while eject the dvd suggesting it was done. As said above, hopefully someone here knows where I'm messing up. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
Dick Gevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:26:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [newbie]** Welcome to Newbie **: 5. List Etiquette We have prepared a page describing common mailing list etiquette that will make your posts more effective and make fellow list members happier to help. It can be found at the community Twiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiq uette May I suggest discouraging shouting as # 11 and renaming # 11 to # 12 ? (Just in case: wherein 'shouting' means ALL LINES CAPS ON; or entire subject CAPS ON: I usually ignore them). That sounds fine by me. Unless anyone objects, we can change it. It's a Twiki, though, so feel free if i don't get over there soon enough. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
I agree with Julie, don't give up. You are much more competent than I was when I started with Linux in 1998. (I think). I am not a computer guru, geek (well a wannabe maybe) or programmer and have to wear a name tag to remember my own name, but I have progressed to the point where I don't ask questions unless I absolutely exhaust all my references and googles. And I love it. I laugh in the face of viruses and snear at worms and have shaken the dust from my feet in leaving MS. Oh, wait I'm getting carried away again. I preach to anyone who will listen about linux. Sorry, Thanks for your comments. I'm a bit behind with emails - so not sure exactly what I have responded to now! Guess I have trouble following some of the instructions I see - as the command line and text editors are so foreign. Slowly getting there I think. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
Whatever is best for you Rosemary. I love Linux, but live on solar power in the bush using a laptop, no serial port, with 31000 kbps Internet access. The desktop uses too much power, but it runs Linux and connects to the net when we have a bit of spare electrical power. But I use mainly the lappy, reworked of course, not as out of the store, and windows XP, the modem and all else works out of the box for that. I like windows well enough, just not their philosophy. I love Linux, but can't download the kernels etc,. that are required for me to get either the PCMCIA modem working, the USB to serial connector working or the winmodem working. So use what you can and have and know. Experiment, I do much of my writing and other work that doesn't require Internet connection in Linux, and Use windows for everything else. Computers are not about Linux, but about what you need or want to do. It depends on the individual but nothing is better, just different. I have come through from Red Hat, Slackware, Suse, even tried Debian for a while and so on. They are all good, I just happen to like Mandrake. Just can't use it on the net at the moment. Just enjoy, don't sweat it, this is not an all or nothing situation. Be well, Charlie. -- Though night after night. The moon is stream reflected, Try to find where it has touched. Point even to a shadow. - Takuan (1573 - 1645) I was just fristrated about one or two things, and tired from night shifts! Thanks for your wise words. Interesting signature ... Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues
Everything takes time to learn. That includes windows! How long did it take you to learn to use a computer in the beginning with any semblance of skill? I have had a terrible time changing because I was virtually computer illiterate to begin with, but I was dissatisfied enough with windows ME to give linux a try. I didn't do enough research, and got a winmodem that would almost work (it got me on line 3 times). After that it would display an error that I got no answers to at two mail lists, and a google search turned up the same error reported by others, but no answer. I also started out with a copy of Mandrake 9.1 powerpack bought from Amazon. But that was a bad idea too, because I was installing it on a new custom built computer, so all the hardware was newer than the software. It appears to me that you have smarter than me in the start of your venture into linux. It has been almost a year since I started playing with this new computer, and it has only been fully operational (internet capable) for a few months. Already I have been spoiled by the browsers, and the variety of programs available for download. Also, if you want to experiment, check out a site that sells download linux distributions. For about $25 you can get Mandrake 10.1, Suse 9.2 Pro, and Fedora Core 3 at linuxcd.com. You might also try the Gnome desktop if you haven't already. I prefer the Evolution e-mail program, and am running it currently from KDE. I haven' tried thunderbird, so can't offer any help there. Just remember that if you stay with Microsoft you still have to be carefull which version you are running. My father has been corresponding with a windows newbi list for several years, and a lot of the people on that list refuse to upgrade from Win98! That would be for the reson that 98 is a more secure os in their oppinion than xp. But, whatever you decide, good luck, and have fun! ~Lorin Thanks for taking the time to respond - I'm still here :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: various issues
On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 19:25, SnapafunFrank wrote: Mr. Geek wrote: Russell Butler wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird problem rather than Mandrake or linux. Nonetheless - fixes suggested, other than command line, which is beyond me as a newbie, don't work. I guess of course, that it's possible that I am entering text incorrectly. At the moment I understand why linux has the reputation that it has. I *do* appreciate all the help I've had. Wondering about going back to windows Hi Rosemary, I hear your frustration. The curve is pretty steep at first. A couple of points about CLI : Don't forget the Tab completion in the shell. If you start typing a link or a command, then hit Tab, it will show you the possible completions, and as you work along will fill everything in, correctly, because it only allows correct syntax. Not a cure-all, but stops a lot of typos. The other feature of the konsole shell that I find can avoid typos is to highlight something you know you want to type, for instance a file found by locate then do Edit (from the menu in the top border) - Copy If you then do shift-insert it will paste the copied data into your shell. Can also work eg from browser links. I use it setting up my urpmi sources from http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/. Saves a lot of potential errors. Saw this link a couple of days ago on MDK Expert list: http://www.bytecave.net/anders/guide/mpguide/TroubleShooting.html#Firefo xFromThunderbird Have a look, it may solve your T'bird/Firefox linking problem. Certainly worked for me, and (I hope) not too complex for a newbie. HTH Russell Actually, as long as you have the gpm package installed, you can select (ie; highlight) text from virtually anywhere, move your mouse into your shell, and either click (do not rotate, but depress) the wheel on your mouse or simultaneously click both left and right buttons at the same time. Whatever you had previously selected will now show up in your shell. HTH's! Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 And a working example of that to get you using it because it is just great and easy: Open your konsole and :- $ slocate some file name you know exist someplace on you system As stated above : place the I bar cursor at the end of the last directory that contains the file name you want to go to : left click depress and hold : move the I bar to highlight the whole file name [ all the way to the left of the page ] : release left click. Now without doing or moving anything : Type cd and hit the space bar once : click the middle mouse button : and hit the enter key : Because you are inside a CLI your typing will default to the current command prompt automatically and your pasting will also default to the same command prompt line. No typo's: Now this example is only a exercise and I leave it to you to find the many uses it has when you are within the CLI. Enjoy, man, isn't Linux fun at times. Thanks for these tips - added to my collection. Yes - it's fun to try and learn .. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] printer - yext not printing as preview shows
Printing out the Rute tutorial is about 1000 pages idf you must have a dead tree copy it would be cheaper to buy it http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-2635319-6707917 I am in NZ so postage costs negate that option. Also I only need a couple of chapters for now. Printed a couple a year or two ago. Going to a larger town/city next week to see what's available. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues - apology
PS I assume you heve the kdegraphics-kghostview and/or acroread rpms installed. KGhostview is a program (and embeddable KPart) to display *.PDF and *.PS files. Yes was pretty amazed when first installed mandrake 10.1 and cruising the menus - to see what was there. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] best/easiest way to verify CD/DVD with just-written data?
I don't seem to see a place in K3b to verify directory tree data written to CD/DVD. Is there a way to do that in K3b? If not what's the easiest/best way? -- Thanks, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues - apology
you all do know that as root urpmi rute will install rute,, adn just typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute --- Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me. Though I haven't urpmi'ed it yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] No sound suddenly
I have MDK 10.1 Community and I love it. Just recently, actually today I tried to play my reggae streams from http://www.bigupradio.com as usual with amarok, and it played fine, but with no sound. I tried opening Kmix to checked if something was accidentally muted, and it crashed while opening. I opened the terminal and typed kmix to see if there was any errors and It gave me and error saying something like this: No ALSA drivers or modules found. I guess that for some mysterious reason the ALSA sound driver or module got lost. I actually recall unpluging my PC by accident. Would that have something to do with the sound being gone? I would really appreciate some help from you great MKD newbie forum guys. Thanks, A. Estrada Columbus, Ohio, USA Power --- Wealth ^ ^ \ / \ / v Information -A. Estrada __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] various issues - apology
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: you all do know that as root urpmi rute will install rute,, adn just typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute --- Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me. Though I haven't urpmi'ed it yet. Wl that *could* be the reason ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Thursday 03 March 2005 09:40 pm, Aidan Holmes wrote: Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet? LinuXXX? Sinux? Hmmm. porno on linuxall the filth you want for your eyes, but none for your hard drive (virus's, ad/spy/malware). I hope Micro$oft doesn't hear about this, they might spread rumours that because linux doesn't support adware it therefore encourages browsing for porn. M$ has referred to Linux as a cancer before, might it now be 'the cancer that causes the moral decline of society'? ;) What ever you call it...it's gotta have joystick support Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com