Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:41, Erylon Hines wrote:
> On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote:
> | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE.
> | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log
> | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop
> | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with
> | another window manager.
> | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall
> | once again.
> |
> | Michel
>
> Can you log into kde as a different user?  Maybe create one and see.  If
> so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde.  Logout and then back into KDE. 
> That will probably fix it.  Beware, you may want to backup your Mail
> directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. 
> Your desktop settings will also return to the default.  The bright side is,
> it is a relatively quick fix.
>
Renaming is always a good option.  You can copy your addressbook over to the 
new directory.  If you use kmail it isn't stored under .kde but under .Mail, 
so you don't lose that either.

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Re: [newbie] another urpmi query

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:31, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 am, Smiley wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:44:05 -0500
> >
> > Julie Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > when a normal update gets interrupted the partial
> > > downloads seem to get  stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial,
> > > and then the packages won't install  because of these
> > > "missing" partials.  What's the preferred way of dealing
> > > with this?
> >
> > I think wait and try again to download later; the not installed
> > packages are not deleted, so no need to download them again.
>
> Okay, thanks  :)
> Even if what's in the "partial" directory are incomplete d/ls?  like 6Mb of
> an 8Mb package, etc?

Yes - it doesn't seem to matter.  I'm not sure whether it completes the 
partials, or whether it starts again, but for certain the download and 
install completes and everything gets cleaned up.

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Re: [ml] [newbie] Strange host name

2005-03-14 Thread SnapafunFrank
Aron Smith wrote:
On Monday 14 March 2005 02:51 pm, Dave Ashmore wrote:
 

Aron Smith wrote:
   

When booting up I got this message
host brian.cede.psu found
Checking the etc/host.allow
dosn't show that name
neither does
etc/host.deny
what's going on ?



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Maybe you have ntp installed and that is a time server?
   

now that you mention it there is mention of ntp on the start up screen
BTW any way to read them after startup?
 

In a terminal do:
# dmesg
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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-14 Thread SnapafunFrank
frengoGorgia wrote:
Il lun, 2005-03-14 alle 11:23, SnapafunFrank ha scritto:
 

Er I tried reading man: fstab and that made no sense, searched for 
'fstab howto' and 'fstab samples' and only got " enter into fstab 
the following " so does anyone know of any online howto ~ 
explanations of the /etc/fstab file ?
   

try looking first to 
man mount

later to
http://www.linuxvoodoo.org/resources/howtos/mounting/
http://esm2.imt-mrs.fr/~staffelb/guide_linux/part1/fstab.html
http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugaccessfilesys.html
http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)
 

For now, the following appear to be totally different and is tying me up 
in knots. What do you understand about the following two entries taken 
from /etc/fstab :

/udev/16MB1 /mnt/16MB auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,rw,exec 0 0
none /mnt/removable supermount 
dev=/dev/sda1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,nosuid,nodev,kudzu 
0 0

To me the file types are different syntax ~ which way is correct ? or 
better ? [ vfat,ext2,  or  fs=auto ( or as above fs=ext2:vfat ) ]
I thought that " none " meant that that dev was a swap partition ~ 
obviously not ~ need this explained.
   

"none" tells to "mount" command , to not read to a device(superblock
number) , which in swap  and supermount case is not needed to read.
 

Should I be using 'supermount' ?
If "umask=0" sets things to 777 then why is "user" also included ?
And the real confusing one ~ In the same line of syntax I see 'auto' ~ 
'noauto' ~ 'exec' ? Should this not be 'auto' ~ 'noexec' and 'noauto' 
removed to allow PnP with Linux ?
   

first "auto" statement is related to filesystem-type stuff, 

"noauto(auto)" is a "mount "command parameter ,means that device will
not be mounted at boot time (or when mount -a is called) , but device  
only be mounted explicitly (on the command line for example)

"noexec(exec)" is a "mount "command parameter, Do  not  allow 
execution  of any binaries on the mounted file system.

 

Thanks frengoGorgia, very informative, I've got some reading to do.
Couple of questions to clear things a little:
If I want hotplug to work do I still use " none " and/or " supermount " ?
Am I correct in assuming that I must remove " noauto " if I expect the 
system to mount a device upon connecting the device, ( as in hotpluging )?
Again an assumption, " noexec " can be considered a security device 
because it would not allow autorun of inserted media, nor allow an user 
to use such ?

If the answers to these questions are within the links you have supplied 
then ignore these questions as I'm now off to read them.

Again, thanks, greatly appreciated.
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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-14 Thread SnapafunFrank
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive - 
wait a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from it. 
That is sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage because 
the device appears to be unmounted and will not have the files 
seen, but when I do mount it manually, root can see the files but 
user cannot, making me think at times that I have wiped the flash 
drive. Further, the Howto's I followed allowed me to have any 
device I plugged in recognized for what it is within /mnt - but 
that has never worked since the first reboot though all the files 
appear to be in place. The very first time I tried to test my work, 
this actually did work, and often whilst I was within that session.

( I used the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 

to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

If you set up rules for udev to give specific names to USB devices, 
in place of the names the kernel gives them, you will break the 
automounting that hotplug does. You can create your own rules to 
handle the mounting in place of the standard ones. This allows you 
to control how things get mounted. For example, when you plug in a 
PNY memory stick, you can have it get mounted on /mnt/pny instead 
/dev/removable. (Don't ask for the full details yet - I am still 
playing with this.

My link above may help ?
>
Well, it show me where you went wrong. I like
http://www.reactivated.net/udevrules.php#
better.

) You can get more specific, and do things like have 32MB sticks 
mount one place, and 64MB mount in another. Basicly, you can test 
any of the tags that udev know about, and build rules based on them.

While mounting specific memory devices in specific places may not be 
real usuefull, when you start talking about USB hard drives, that is 
another story. If you have more then one partition on the drive, 
then current hotplug code will not mount it. Also, if you have 
requirments that different partitions on the drive be mounted in 
specific places, you can handle them this way. Maybe one partition 
needs to mount on /backup, and another on /opt/pictures, or 
something like that.

Now, as far as users being able to access files on USB storage 
devices, it depends on how you mount them. If you just do something 
like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable", then your users will not be able 
to access the files. But if you do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable -o umask=0", then they will have 
access.

Using sda1 may not be the best choice in this example, as if you 
plug in a USB "PEN" drive, and it uses the default device, it will 
get automounted, but I think you get the idea. If you have udev set 
to create something like /dev/pen and /dev/pen1, then use pen1 in 
place of sda1, and it will work.

Mikkel

Thanks Mikkel
If you follow the above link you will be able to see what I did as I 
followed it precisely.

And as I have said before, during that particular session it actually 
worked exactly as explained in the above howto ~ that is until I got 
a little carried away with changing all my usb memory sticks around 
without waiting long enough for the system to catch up ~ end result - 
I corrupted my .ICEauthority file and within rescue mode had to 
delete that and start again with all my customizing. [ Still finding 
stuff that needs to be updated because of this. ]

Anyway, your comments above make a lot of sense so I'm off to check 
things out before posting this:

First up:
<[ snip ]--->
OK. The USB devices are 16MB, 64MB, Works128MB whilst Camera1 is a 
Flash card from the camera.
Each of them has " noauto" and three of them has "ro" whilst one has 
"rw".
So I need a lesson here : none of them have the "-o" option Mikkel 
mentions ~ and what is the true meaning of "noauto" ?
For now I will only change the "ro" to "rw".

As  to the naming convention mentioned by Mikkel, I believe that is 
done here:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] frank]$ cat /etc/udev/udev.rules
<...snip...>
<.../snip...>
# if this is a ide cdrom, name it the default name, and create a 
symlink to cdrom
BUS="ide", KERNEL="*[!0-9]", PROGRAM="/bin/cat /proc/ide/%k/media", 
RESULT="cdrom", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="cdrom"

# create a symlink named after the device map name
# note devmap_name comes with extras/multipath
KERNEL="dm-[0-9]*", PROGRAM="/sbin/devmap_name %M %m", NAME="%k", 
SYMLINK="%c"

# DRI devices always go into a subdirectory (as per the LSB spec)
KERNEL="card*", NAME="dri/card%n"
# Flash Memory 16MB
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="M-Sys*", NAME="16MB%n"
# Flash Memory 64MB
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="USB*", NAME="64MB%n"
# Card Reader for MyCanonCamera
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="SIIG*", NAME="Camera%n"
# Flash Memory "Works 128MB"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="OTi*", NAME="Works128MB%n"
<...snip...>
Hmmm I am concerned o

Re: [newbie] re: SSHD

2005-03-14 Thread Duncan Anderson
Mrexecutive wrote:
Hello Guys,
 

I installed SSHD but forgot how to start it or can someone show me how 
to put it in the autoexec file for linux so it does it upon start up?

 

Sorry im a newbie!
 

 

 

 

 

Go into the Mandrake Control Centre (Configure Your Computer) and go 
into the System section, then go into Services - Look for sshd and 
enable it.

Otherwise, from a root command prompt, type
chkconfig --add sshd
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Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-14 Thread Amy
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1.
> I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its
> location as
> http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/
> but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an
> urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0.  What did I do
> wrong?  Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the
> -1.0-1 rpm or is there another way?
> 
> ty
> 
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I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work,
but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of
people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the
easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use
Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on
how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/

He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs
that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors.

I hope that helps.
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[newbie] re: SSHD

2005-03-14 Thread Mrexecutive








Hello Guys,

 

I installed SSHD but forgot how to start it or can someone
show me how to put it in the autoexec file for linux so it does it upon start
up?

 

Sorry im a newbie!

 

 

 

 

 








[newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-14 Thread Julie Sloan

when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1.  
I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its 
location as 
http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/
but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an 
urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0.  What did I do 
wrong?  Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the 
-1.0-1 rpm or is there another way?

ty

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[newbie] --noclean

2005-03-14 Thread Julie Sloan

how would I go about making the --noclean option default for urpmi'ing, so I 
don't have to remember to add it each time I d/l a program?

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Re: [newbie] another urpmi query

2005-03-14 Thread Julie Sloan
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 am, Smiley wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:44:05 -0500
>
> Julie Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > when a normal update gets interrupted the partial
> > downloads seem to get  stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial,
> > and then the packages won't install  because of these
> > "missing" partials.  What's the preferred way of dealing
> > with this?
>
> I think wait and try again to download later; the not installed
> packages are not deleted, so no need to download them again.


Okay, thanks  :)  
Even if what's in the "partial" directory are incomplete d/ls?  like 6Mb of 
an 8Mb package, etc?  

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Erylon Hines
On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote:
| Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE.
| Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log
| in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop
| and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with
| another window manager.
| How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall
| once again.
|
| Michel

Can you log into kde as a different user?  Maybe create one and see.  If so, 
rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde.  Logout and then back into KDE.  That 
will probably fix it.  Beware, you may want to backup your Mail directory and 
your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process.  Your desktop 
settings will also return to the default.  The bright side is, it is a 
relatively quick fix.

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Re: [newbie] another urpmi query

2005-03-14 Thread Smiley
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:44:05 -0500
Julie Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> when a normal update gets interrupted the partial
> downloads seem to get  stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial,
> and then the packages won't install  because of these
> "missing" partials.  What's the preferred way of dealing 
> with this?

I think wait and try again to download later; the not installed
packages are not deleted, so no need to download them again.
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[newbie] another urpmi query

2005-03-14 Thread Julie Sloan

when a normal update gets interrupted the partial downloads seem to get 
stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial, and then the packages won't install 
because of these "missing" partials.  What's the preferred way of dealing 
with this?

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[newbie] Wireless adapter

2005-03-14 Thread Teilhard Knight
I have this laptop I bought me recently, and the wireless adapter driver 
fails to install. I get the error message when I select to configure a 
wireless connection:

"Driver ath_pci failed on /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 302".
Do you think I have any hope to put this adapter (Atheros AR5005GS) to work?
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Re: [newbie] Signature Randomizer

2005-03-14 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
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On Sunday 13 March 2005 17:54, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> >On Saturday 12 March 2005 09:09 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
> >>I am wondering if there is a signature randomizer for Linux similar to
> >>KookieJar for Windows.
> >>
> >>Thank you,
> >
> >Yes, its called fortune and I believe its installed as part of a normal
> >install.  You can call it from a script such as this:
> >
> >#!/bin/bash
> >echo "Chris"
> >echo "Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org";
> >STR=$(uptime)
> >TIME=${STR% user}
> >RESULT=${TIME%}
> >echo $RESULT
> >echo "Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel $(uname -r)"
> >
> >echo ""
> >
> >/usr/games/fortune
> >
> >echo ""
> >if [ -p /tmp/xmms-info ] ; then echo "Live - Classic Rock - From Virgin
> > Radio UK $( grep Title: /tmp/xmms-info | awk -F': ' '{print $2}' )"
> >fi
> >
> >If using Kmail you can under "Settings > configure Kmail > identies >
> >signature" then select "Obtain signature text from Output of Command.  For
> >instance mine is /home/chris/./sig.  You can learn more about fortune from
> >"man fortune"
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Thanks for the tip.
> I was able to get it to work in thunderbird by making a script like you
> suggested and calling it via cron to generate a signature like this
> every 15 minutes.
> First make sig-pubmail executable like so:
> chmod 0755 sig-pubmail
> Then edit your /etc/crontab file and add a lines like mine below:
>
> 0  ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail >
> /home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
> 15 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail >
> /home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
> 30 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail >
> /home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
> 45 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail >
> /home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
>
> Then of course just have thunderbird use that file as it's signature.
> sigpubmail.txt

Why don´t you save some typying and time using cron?

the following:

*/15 * * * * root /home/djash/./sig-pubmail > /home/djash/sigpubmail.txt

Would have the same effect!

At least that´s how I use it!

HTH

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[newbie] reading Troff document

2005-03-14 Thread Angus Auld
Greetings, could some kind soul tell me what program I can use to read Troff 
documents? A friend of mine has a Mac, and they have sent me a couple documents 
that I have thus far been unable to read. Is Troff a Mac proprietary format?

TIA for any assistance on this.
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.1- NVidia 1.0-7167 driver

2005-03-14 Thread Smiley
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:50:03 +1000
Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don Gregory wrote:
> 
> >Anybody tried the new 1.0-7167 driver yet?  
> 
> I successfully installed the 1.0-7167 driver today. 

Following your hints, I did too; but for me it wasn't
necessary to edit /etc/inittab: I just opened a terminal and
sent "telinit 3"; then I logged as root and sent 
rmmode nvidia
modprobe agpart
as you suggested; then i ran the nvidia scritp as usual and
this time the module was compiled with no problem.
I rebooted and here I am ^_^
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RE: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML

2005-03-14 Thread Hugh Dixon
> -Original Message-
> From: Fajar Priyanto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 11:00 AM
> To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML
> 

It is *only* "word-processing document stored in a single XML file".
(I've been working on a system involving spreadsheets, so am on the safe
side of the 'divide and conquor' - for now)  
A similar patent was filed in Australia, and is now classified as
'lapsed'.
This smells to me of nothing but FUD

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Re: [newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

2005-03-14 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Monday 14 March 2005 12:38 pm, Miark wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:59:41 -0600, Chris wrote:
> > Question is, how  is this mouse cleaned?  Do I clean
> > the lens on the bottom?  If so, with what?
>
> I've had a MS optical mouse for at least 3 years and have never
> had to clean it, although I blow lint out with just my mouth once
> in a while.

This makes me notice that there is some dust building up on the lense.
And strange, when I blow air into it with my mouth, the laser lights up :)
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML

2005-03-14 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:28 am, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote:
> As the Merovingio said: "Disappointing... but not unexpected".
>
> Greetings,
> Fernando Gomez.
> "Give my regards to the Broad Street".

Does it mean the doomsday for OpenOffice?

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML

2005-03-14 Thread Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores

- Original Message - 
From: "frengoGorgia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML


> Il lun, 2005-03-14 alle 23:35, Kaj Haulrich ha scritto:
> > You won't believe this :
> > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10115247
> > I wonder when Microsoft will take out a patent on the alphabet.
> > 
> > Kaj Haulrich.

As the Merovingio said: "Disappointing... but not unexpected". 

Greetings,
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML

2005-03-14 Thread frengoGorgia
Il lun, 2005-03-14 alle 23:35, Kaj Haulrich ha scritto:
> You won't believe this :
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10115247
> I wonder when Microsoft will take out a patent on the alphabet.
> 
> Kaj Haulrich.

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/2005/03/09/bill05land.html


http://www.forbes.com/static/bill2005/LIRBH69.html?passListId=10&passYear=2005&passListType=Person&uniqueId=BH69&datatype=Person
http://www.forbes.com/static/bill2005/LIR1217.html?passListId=10&passYear=2005&passListType=Person&uniqueId=1217&datatype=Person

and later

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Re: [ml] [newbie] Strange host name

2005-03-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 14 March 2005 02:51 pm, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> Aron Smith wrote:
> >When booting up I got this message
> >host brian.cede.psu found
> >Checking the etc/host.allow
> >dosn't show that name
> >neither does
> >etc/host.deny
> >what's going on ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Maybe you have ntp installed and that is a time server?
now that you mention it there is mention of ntp on the start up screen
BTW any way to read them after startup?


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Re: [ml] [newbie] Strange host name

2005-03-14 Thread Dave Ashmore
Aron Smith wrote:
When booting up I got this message
host brian.cede.psu found
Checking the etc/host.allow 
dosn't show that name 
neither does 
etc/host.deny
what's going on ?

 



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[newbie] Strange host name

2005-03-14 Thread Aron Smith
When booting up I got this message
host brian.cede.psu found
Checking the etc/host.allow 
dosn't show that name 
neither does 
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft to patent XML

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 14 March 2005 05:35 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> You won't believe this :
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10115247
> I wonder when Microsoft will take out a patent on the alphabet.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

By the Gods, Kaj - don't give them ideas! :-)

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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-14 Thread frengoGorgia
Il lun, 2005-03-14 alle 11:23, SnapafunFrank ha scritto:

> 
> Er I tried reading man: fstab and that made no sense, searched for 
> 'fstab howto' and 'fstab samples' and only got " enter into fstab 
> the following " so does anyone know of any online howto ~ 
> explanations of the /etc/fstab file ?
try looking first to 
man mount

later to

http://www.linuxvoodoo.org/resources/howtos/mounting/

http://esm2.imt-mrs.fr/~staffelb/guide_linux/part1/fstab.html

http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugaccessfilesys.html

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)

> For now, the following appear to be totally different and is tying me up 
> in knots. What do you understand about the following two entries taken 
> from /etc/fstab :
> 
> /udev/16MB1 /mnt/16MB auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,rw,exec 0 0
> 
> none /mnt/removable supermount 
> dev=/dev/sda1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,nosuid,nodev,kudzu
>  
> 0 0
> 
> To me the file types are different syntax ~ which way is correct ? or 
> better ? [ vfat,ext2,  or  fs=auto ( or as above fs=ext2:vfat ) ]
> I thought that " none " meant that that dev was a swap partition ~ 
> obviously not ~ need this explained.

"none" tells to "mount" command , to not read to a device(superblock
number) , which in swap  and supermount case is not needed to read.

> Should I be using 'supermount' ?
> If "umask=0" sets things to 777 then why is "user" also included ?
> And the real confusing one ~ In the same line of syntax I see 'auto' ~ 
> 'noauto' ~ 'exec' ? Should this not be 'auto' ~ 'noexec' and 'noauto' 
> removed to allow PnP with Linux ?

first "auto" statement is related to filesystem-type stuff, 

"noauto(auto)" is a "mount "command parameter ,means that device will
not be mounted at boot time (or when mount -a is called) , but device  
only be mounted explicitly (on the command line for example)

"noexec(exec)" is a "mount "command parameter, Do  not  allow 
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[newbie] Microsoft to patent XML

2005-03-14 Thread Kaj Haulrich
You won't believe this :
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10115247
I wonder when Microsoft will take out a patent on the alphabet.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Nokia 6800 connection

2005-03-14 Thread Amy
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:34:57 -0500, Bryan Phinney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 13 March 2005 18:16, Amy wrote:
> 
> > If anyone else is reading this, and has any experience with Nokias
> > directly, I'd appriciate it if you'd comment and let me know. Thanks!
> 
> I have a Nokia 6600.  It has IR and Bluetooth.  I have used bluetooth quite a
> lot and the connection to Linux is fine.  I can send files, receive files,
> contacts, etc.
> 
> However, IIRC, your model does not support bluetooth so the only connection
> method that I can see would be via cable.  Also, Nokia's software is usually
> freely available though it only works with Windows.  You should be able to
> find a lot of howto's for Linux by Googling.
> 
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Indeed, my model does not have bluetooth. I would be using the data
cable to connect it up. Do you have a program you use for things like
contact book backup, loading pictures on your phone, etc?

Part of the reason I'm asking on the list is that I am having trouble
getting answers out of Google. I've tried, but my googling skills
apparently suck and I can't get anything I can make heads or tails of.

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Re: [newbie] login manager

2005-03-14 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:04, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Sometimes ago, Anne wilson told me to use the Mandrake login
> manager to enable/disable users in the login window:
>
> "Try kcontrol > System > Login Manager and check whether the user
> is enabled there."
>
> What is the name of this Login manager? The one to type in a
> terminal. Since I've lost kde, I use xfce4 and the login manager
> doesn't appear in the XFCE menu.
>
> Thanks,
> Michel

Michel, as far as I understand you want to log in as a new user in 
order to see if KDE works, OK ?

If so, just create a new user from a root konsole, like this :

# adduser [username here]

Then you'll be prompted for a new unix password, just choose some 
and carry on.

When done, log out of the root session, kill the X server by 
pressing  and log in as the new user, 
choosing KDE .

If the problem is some setting in your old .kde directory, the new 
user's KDE will work just fine.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] login manager

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:44, Dan Gordon wrote:
> On March 14, 2005 04:13 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > kcontrol is a kde app, so you won't be able to do it from XFCE I
> > think, but you could try, if you have kde installed.  The login
> > manager is one sub-section under kcontrol.
>
> I run any and all KDE apps from XFCE,  that should not be any problem.
>
I think the requirement is that kde must be installed, not in use as a 
desk-manager.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
>
> X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde
> that's for sure.
I hadn't realised about XFCE when I sent it, but you're right, of course.

> Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check
> what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for
> a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging
> out in a previous session.

It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get 
in.  He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the 
problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so 
far.   But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder?

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Re: [newbie] login manager

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Gordon
On March 14, 2005 04:13 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> kcontrol is a kde app, so you won't be able to do it from XFCE I
> think, but you could try, if you have kde installed.  The login
> manager is one sub-section under kcontrol.
>
I run any and all KDE apps from XFCE,  that should not be any problem.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:11, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote:
> > eric jackson wrote:
> > > You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the
> > > command line, did you try startx?
> >
> > No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login
> > tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually,
> > the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the
> > splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar
> > message in /var/log/... either.
>
> Here's one possibility that I'd try.  Try XFDrake, if you can get to a
> command line.  Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. 
> If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility.
>
> Anne

X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde 
that's for sure.
Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check 
what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a 
later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out 
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Re: [newbie] login manager

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:04, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Sometimes ago, Anne wilson told me to use the Mandrake login manager to
> enable/disable users in the login window:
>
> "Try kcontrol > System > Login Manager and check whether the user is
> enabled there."
>
> What is the name of this Login manager? The one to type in a terminal.
> Since I've lost kde, I use xfce4 and the login manager doesn't appear in
> the XFCE menu.
>
kcontrol is a kde app, so you won't be able to do it from XFCE I think, but 
you could try, if you have kde installed.  The login manager is one 
sub-section under kcontrol.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote:
> eric jackson wrote:
> > You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the
> > command line, did you try startx?
>
> No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login
> tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually,
> the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the
> splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar
> message in /var/log/... either.
>
Here's one possibility that I'd try.  Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command 
line.  Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake.  If 
everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility.

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[newbie] login manager

2005-03-14 Thread Michel Leunen
Sometimes ago, Anne wilson told me to use the Mandrake login manager to 
enable/disable users in the login window:

"Try kcontrol > System > Login Manager and check whether the user is 
enabled there."

What is the name of this Login manager? The one to type in a terminal.
Since I've lost kde, I use xfce4 and the login manager doesn't appear in 
the XFCE menu.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Michel Leunen
eric jackson wrote:
You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the  
command line, did you try startx? 
No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login 
tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, 
the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the 
splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar 
message in /var/log/... either.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread eric jackson
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:18:24 +0100, Michel Leunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SOTL wrote:
Please supply info on usual components.
Equipment make video card et.
Linux Distribution and version et.
Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter.

You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the  
command line, did you try startx? I lost KDE once and I think that's what  
I did to get it back although I admit, I'm not sure.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Michel Leunen
SOTL wrote:
Please supply info on usual components.
Equipment make video card et.
Linux Distribution and version et.
Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter.
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 14 March 2005 20:01, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE.
> Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log
> in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop
> and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with
> another window manager.
> How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall
> once again.
>
> Michel

The first thing I'd do is create another user and log into KDE as that new 
user. If the problems don't show up it's a faulty setting in your 
"/home/michel/.kde/" directory.just delete it and check in as you used 
to.

You will lose existing kde settings like those of kmail as well as bookmarks 
in konqueror etc etc.
So if that is a major problem, say so and we'll fine tune what has to be 
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread SOTL
On Monday 14 March 2005 14:01, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE.
> Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log
> in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop
> and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with
> another window manager.
> How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall
> once again.
>
> Michel

Please supply info on usual components.
Equipment make video card et.
Linux Distribution and version et.
Did you download KDE and install or did you install from distribution?

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[newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread Michel Leunen
Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. 
Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log 
in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop 
and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with 
another window manager.
How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall 
once again.

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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 17:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Thanks Anne. I'm sure some of the difference reflected there is because I'm
> still using v9.2 and I think you're on 10.x, right?

Versions, yes, but I would think you still need the packages.

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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 14 March 2005 12:06 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 14 Mar 2005 15:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and
> > > you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH
> >
> > libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> > k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> > k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> >
> > Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant?
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
>
> Checking under Software Uninstaller, under the Archiving group, I have
>
> cdrdao-1.1.9-6mdk
> cdrecord-2.01-1mdk
> dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2mdk
> k3b-0.11.16-3mdk
> k3b-dvd-0.11.17-0.1010.1
> mkisofs-2.01-1mdk
>
> Anne

Thanks Anne. I'm sure some of the difference reflected there is because I'm 
still using v9.2 and I think you're on 10.x, right?

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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 14 March 2005 10:43 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Monday 14 March 2005 09:10 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and
> > > you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH
> >
> > libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> > k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> > k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> >
> > Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant?
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
>
> Yep, that k3b-dvd is the one I ment.  So that must not be the problem. I am
> at a loss, all the k3b problems, I use it with CD and DVD and have not had
> a problem ever. (knock on wood).

I didn't either, until I reinstalled. After that, boom!. 

It still keeps giving the same error messages. Something about an opc and 
input/output errors. The debugging message gives this:

(this version will show up different than what I posted above because its 
showing after I switched to Charles Edwards RPMs)
System
---
K3b Version: 0.11.5
KDE Version: 3.1.3
QT Version:  3.1.2

growisofs
---
:-( Failed to change write speed: 8310->11080

growisofs comand:
---
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/scd1 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -speed=8 -gui -graft-points 
-V K3b data project -volset  -A K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.5 (C) 2003 
SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -P  -p K3b - Version 0.11.5 -sysid LINUX 
-volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bGYOdLb.tmp -r 
-hide-list /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bGpcqTb.tmp -l -iso-level 2 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-darklord/k3bEnU4yb.tmp 

So I dunno.

I did go back, uninstall and try reinstalling the RPMs from Charles Edwards 
excellent site, but that made no difference either.

I'll keep on plugging at it - there's something I'm missing somewhere.

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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-14 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive - 
wait a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from it. That 
is sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage because the 
device appears to be unmounted and will not have the files seen, but 
when I do mount it manually, root can see the files but user cannot, 
making me think at times that I have wiped the flash drive. Further, 
the Howto's I followed allowed me to have any device I plugged in 
recognized for what it is within /mnt - but that has never worked 
since the first reboot though all the files appear to be in place. 
The very first time I tried to test my work, this actually did work, 
and often whilst I was within that session.

( I used the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 

to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

If you set up rules for udev to give specific names to USB devices, in 
place of the names the kernel gives them, you will break the 
automounting that hotplug does. You can create your own rules to 
handle the mounting in place of the standard ones. This allows you to 
control how things get mounted. For example, when you plug in a PNY 
memory stick, you can have it get mounted on /mnt/pny instead 
/dev/removable. (Don't ask for the full details yet - I am still 
playing with this.

My link above may help ?
>
Well, it show me where you went wrong. I like
http://www.reactivated.net/udevrules.php#
better.

) You can get more specific, and do things like have 32MB sticks mount 
one place, and 64MB mount in another. Basicly, you can test any of the 
tags that udev know about, and build rules based on them.

While mounting specific memory devices in specific places may not be 
real usuefull, when you start talking about USB hard drives, that is 
another story. If you have more then one partition on the drive, then 
current hotplug code will not mount it. Also, if you have requirments 
that different partitions on the drive be mounted in specific places, 
you can handle them this way. Maybe one partition needs to mount on 
/backup, and another on /opt/pictures, or something like that.

Now, as far as users being able to access files on USB storage 
devices, it depends on how you mount them. If you just do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable", then your users will not be able to 
access the files. But if you do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable -o umask=0", then they will have access.

Using sda1 may not be the best choice in this example, as if you plug 
in a USB "PEN" drive, and it uses the default device, it will get 
automounted, but I think you get the idea. If you have udev set to 
create something like /dev/pen and /dev/pen1, then use pen1 in place 
of sda1, and it will work.

Mikkel

Thanks Mikkel
If you follow the above link you will be able to see what I did as I 
followed it precisely.

And as I have said before, during that particular session it actually 
worked exactly as explained in the above howto ~ that is until I got a 
little carried away with changing all my usb memory sticks around 
without waiting long enough for the system to catch up ~ end result - I 
corrupted my .ICEauthority file and within rescue mode had to delete 
that and start again with all my customizing. [ Still finding stuff that 
needs to be updated because of this. ]

Anyway, your comments above make a lot of sense so I'm off to check 
things out before posting this:

First up:
<[ snip ]--->
OK. The USB devices are 16MB, 64MB, Works128MB whilst Camera1 is a Flash 
card from the camera.
Each of them has " noauto" and three of them has "ro" whilst one has "rw".
So I need a lesson here : none of them have the "-o" option Mikkel 
mentions ~ and what is the true meaning of "noauto" ?
For now I will only change the "ro" to "rw".

As  to the naming convention mentioned by Mikkel, I believe that is done 
here:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] frank]$ cat /etc/udev/udev.rules
<...snip...>
<.../snip...>
# if this is a ide cdrom, name it the default name, and create a symlink 
to cdrom
BUS="ide", KERNEL="*[!0-9]", PROGRAM="/bin/cat /proc/ide/%k/media", 
RESULT="cdrom", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="cdrom"

# create a symlink named after the device map name
# note devmap_name comes with extras/multipath
KERNEL="dm-[0-9]*", PROGRAM="/sbin/devmap_name %M %m", NAME="%k", 
SYMLINK="%c"

# DRI devices always go into a subdirectory (as per the LSB spec)
KERNEL="card*", NAME="dri/card%n"
# Flash Memory 16MB
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="M-Sys*", NAME="16MB%n"
# Flash Memory 64MB
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="USB*", NAME="64MB%n"
# Card Reader for MyCanonCamera
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="SIIG*", NAME="Camera%n"
# Flash Memory "Works 128MB"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS_vendor="OTi*", NAME="Works128MB%n"
<...snip...>
Hmmm I am concerned on two things here, first my sys

Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 15:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and
> > you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH
>
> libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
>
> Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant?
>
> Thanks for the reply.

Checking under Software Uninstaller, under the Archiving group, I have

cdrdao-1.1.9-6mdk
cdrecord-2.01-1mdk
dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2mdk
k3b-0.11.16-3mdk
k3b-dvd-0.11.17-0.1010.1
mkisofs-2.01-1mdk

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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 15:18, Pablo Ortuzar wrote:
> On Monday 14 March 2005 14:42, Tango Echo wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (snip)
>
> > Good question, and I would be interested in the answer
> > as well...  Correct me if I'm wrong here, but can PC
> > to Phone calls be made for free under GnomeMeeting?
> > There is a (cheap) rate for this to happen with Skype...
>
> Skype: 1.7 euro cents /minute
> GMeeting: 0.043 euros/ minute

Ah - I didn't know it had been introduced on GM yet.  I knew they had been 
working on it.  I guess if there is a significant price difference they will 
have to address that problem before long.

Thanks for that.  It's time I got it working again ;-)  It will be pc to pc, 
so that's fine.

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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 13:42, Tango Echo wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:34 AM
> > To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone
>
> up to
>
> > speed on Mandrake via Skype
> >
> > On Saturday 12 Mar 2005 17:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> > > Ok I'm here and have a few minutes before I get
>
> started on my home
>
> > > project. Give me a call if you need some help.
> > > Skype: djash34
> >
> > I'm somewhat puzzled by all this.  What exactly is
>
> the
>
> > advantage of Skype over
> > GnomeMeeting?  I've spoken to a friend in USA over
>
> GM, with
>
> > video, thought it
> > can be used without, and no problems at all with the
>
> quality
>
> > on a 512 ADSL
> > connection.
> >
> > I'm not meaning to be negative - it's just that I
>
> wonder what
>
> > this newer
> > product can do that the older one can't.
> >
> > Anne
> > --
> > Registered Linux User No.293302
>
> (http://counter.li.org/)
>
> > Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
>
> Mandrake
>
> > at all levels
>
> Good question, and I would be interested in the answer
> as well...  Correct me if I'm wrong here, but can PC
> to Phone calls be made for free under GnomeMeeting?
> There is a (cheap) rate for this to happen with Skype...
>
As far as I know that is still work in progress.  Where you can use pc to pc, 
though, it is totally cost-free.

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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-14 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 14 March 2005 09:10 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and
> > you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH
>
> libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
> k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
>
> Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant?
>
> Thanks for the reply.
Yep, that k3b-dvd is the one I ment.  So that must not be the problem. I am at 
a loss, all the k3b problems, I use it with CD and DVD and have not had a 
problem ever. (knock on wood). 
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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Monday 14 March 2005 14:42, Tango Echo wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)

> Good question, and I would be interested in the answer
> as well...  Correct me if I'm wrong here, but can PC
> to Phone calls be made for free under GnomeMeeting?
> There is a (cheap) rate for this to happen with Skype...

Skype: 1.7 euro cents /minute
GMeeting: 0.043 euros/ minute


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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

> There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you
> need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH

libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk
k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk

Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant?

Thanks for the reply.

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[newbie] Which package contains GTK+ 1.2 or higher in 10.1

2005-03-14 Thread Antony Paul
Hi all,
I tried to compile gcvs availiable from wincvs.org. While
configuring it is saying that
checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no
*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
*** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to gtk-config.
configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?

I searched for gtk-config in Browse Avaliable Software from  Packaging
menu. I have GNOME installed.

Which package contains this ?.
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RE: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Tango Echo
> -Original Message-
> From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:34 AM
> To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone
up to 
> speed on Mandrake via Skype
> 
> 
> On Saturday 12 Mar 2005 17:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> >
> > Ok I'm here and have a few minutes before I get
started on my home 
> > project. Give me a call if you need some help.
> > Skype: djash34
> 
> I'm somewhat puzzled by all this.  What exactly is
the 
> advantage of Skype over 
> GnomeMeeting?  I've spoken to a friend in USA over
GM, with 
> video, thought it 
> can be used without, and no problems at all with the
quality 
> on a 512 ADSL 
> connection.
> 
> I'm not meaning to be negative - it's just that I
wonder what 
> this newer 
> product can do that the older one can't.
> 
> Anne
> -- 
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(http://counter.li.org/)
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Mandrake 
> at all levels

Good question, and I would be interested in the answer
as well...  Correct me if I'm wrong here, but can PC
to Phone calls be made for free under GnomeMeeting? 
There is a (cheap) rate for this to happen with Skype...



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Re: [newbie] Re: Nokia 6800 connection

2005-03-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 13 March 2005 18:16, Amy wrote:

> If anyone else is reading this, and has any experience with Nokias
> directly, I'd appriciate it if you'd comment and let me know. Thanks!

I have a Nokia 6600.  It has IR and Bluetooth.  I have used bluetooth quite a 
lot and the connection to Linux is fine.  I can send files, receive files, 
contacts, etc.

However, IIRC, your model does not support bluetooth so the only connection 
method that I can see would be via cable.  Also, Nokia's software is usually 
freely available though it only works with Windows.  You should be able to 
find a lot of howto's for Linux by Googling.

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[newbie] Enlarging / partition

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All

How can I enlarge the / partition?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.1- NVidia 1.0-7167 driver

2005-03-14 Thread Graham
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 08:50, Graham wrote:
 

I successfully installed the 1.0-7167 driver today. My box is:
   


Could you add this info to the TWiki, on 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ViDeo under the NVidia section, 
please?

Done Anne, hope this works for others
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[newbie] ?Conflict ? with video applications in KDE

2005-03-14 Thread Hugh Dixon
I suspect this may be a KDE problem, but...
I am running under the latest mdk 10.1 with kde.
The applications I'm running are kdetv and kaffeine.  
My problem is that after running kaffeine I cannot get video to appear in kdetv 
without restarting KDE.
I suspect there is a conflict or something between the overlays and/or chroma 
keys or whatever it is the apps use to generate the image.
Does anyone know anything about this, and can they offer a solution to this 
please?

Thanks,

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[newbie] ?Conflict ? with video applications in KDE

2005-03-14 Thread Hugh Dixon
I suspect this may be a KDE problem, but...
I am running under the latest mdk 10.0 with kde.
The applications I'm running are kdetv and kaffeine.  
My problem is that after running kaffeine I cannot get video to appear in kdetv 
without restarting KDE.
I suspect there is a conflict or something between the overlays and/or chroma 
keys or whatever it is the apps use to generate the image.
Does anyone know anything about this, and can they offer a solution to this 
please?

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 10:42, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> >On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >>On Saturday 12 Mar 2005 17:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> >>>Ok I'm here and have a few minutes before I get started on my home
> >>>project. Give me a call if you need some help.
> >>>Skype: djash34
> >>
> >>I'm somewhat puzzled by all this.  What exactly is the advantage of Skype
> >>over GnomeMeeting?  I've spoken to a friend in USA over GM, with video,
> >>thought it can be used without, and no problems at all with the quality
> >> on a 512 ADSL connection.
> >>
> >>I'm not meaning to be negative - it's just that I wonder what this newer
> >>product can do that the older one can't.
> >>
> >>Anne
> >
> >Does GnomeMeeting talk to other voip clients?  I'm curious ...  most of my
> >friends use MS, and skype has downloads for both.
> >
I haven't received this message yet - but
>
> That's whay I was going to say.
> I can use it to talk to family that is on windows.
> I have not yet been able to convert everyone I know to linux yet...lol.

Yes - I have tested it against a GnomeMeeting to NetMeeting session.  I think 
it was easier to start the session from GM than it was from NM, but that's 
the only issue I remember having.  It certainly works without any problems.

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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Dave Ashmore
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
 

On Saturday 12 Mar 2005 17:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
   

Ok I'm here and have a few minutes before I get started on my home
project. Give me a call if you need some help.
Skype: djash34
 

I'm somewhat puzzled by all this.  What exactly is the advantage of Skype
over GnomeMeeting?  I've spoken to a friend in USA over GM, with video,
thought it can be used without, and no problems at all with the quality on
a 512 ADSL connection.
I'm not meaning to be negative - it's just that I wonder what this newer
product can do that the older one can't.
Anne
   


Does GnomeMeeting talk to other voip clients?  I'm curious ...  most of my 
friends use MS, and skype has downloads for both.

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That's whay I was going to say.
I can use it to talk to family that is on windows.
I have not yet been able to convert everyone I know to linux yet...lol.
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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-14 Thread SnapafunFrank
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive - 
wait a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from it. 
That is sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage because 
the device appears to be unmounted and will not have the files seen, 
but when I do mount it manually, root can see the files but user 
cannot, making me think at times that I have wiped the flash drive. 
Further, the Howto's I followed allowed me to have any device I 
plugged in recognized for what it is within /mnt - but that has 
never worked since the first reboot though all the files appear to 
be in place. The very first time I tried to test my work, this 
actually did work, and often whilst I was within that session.

( I used the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 

to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

If you set up rules for udev to give specific names to USB devices, 
in place of the names the kernel gives them, you will break the 
automounting that hotplug does. You can create your own rules to 
handle the mounting in place of the standard ones. This allows you to 
control how things get mounted. For example, when you plug in a PNY 
memory stick, you can have it get mounted on /mnt/pny instead 
/dev/removable. (Don't ask for the full details yet - I am still 
playing with this.

My link above may help ?
) You can get more specific, and do things like have 32MB sticks 
mount one place, and 64MB mount in another. Basicly, you can test any 
of the tags that udev know about, and build rules based on them.

While mounting specific memory devices in specific places may not be 
real usuefull, when you start talking about USB hard drives, that is 
another story. If you have more then one partition on the drive, then 
current hotplug code will not mount it. Also, if you have requirments 
that different partitions on the drive be mounted in specific places, 
you can handle them this way. Maybe one partition needs to mount on 
/backup, and another on /opt/pictures, or something like that.

Now, as far as users being able to access files on USB storage 
devices, it depends on how you mount them. If you just do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable", then your users will not be able to 
access the files. But if you do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable -o umask=0", then they will have access.

Using sda1 may not be the best choice in this example, as if you plug 
in a USB "PEN" drive, and it uses the default device, it will get 
automounted, but I think you get the idea. If you have udev set to 
create something like /dev/pen and /dev/pen1, then use pen1 in place 
of sda1, and it will work.

Mikkel

Thanks Mikkel
If you follow the above link you will be able to see what I did as I 
followed it precisely.

And as I have said before, during that particular session it actually 
worked exactly as explained in the above howto ~ that is until I got a 
little carried away with changing all my usb memory sticks around 
without waiting long enough for the system to catch up ~ end result - 
I corrupted my .ICEauthority file and within rescue mode had to delete 
that and start again with all my customizing. [ Still finding stuff 
that needs to be updated because of this. ]

Anyway, your comments above make a lot of sense so I'm off to check 
things out before posting this:

First up:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] frank]$ cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext2 defaults 0 0
#I added to following three lines but before the reboot they were the 
last three entries here
#And now to try to get user able to at least read the device contents 
I shall:
# - Comment out the next three entries
# - Copy the three entries below and edit them thus:
# - 1st go = same as for cdrom
#/udev/16MB1 /mnt/16MB vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
#/udev/64MB1 /mnt/64MB vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
#/udev/Camera1 /mnt/Camera vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
/udev/16MB1 /mnt/16MB auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
/udev/64MB1 /mnt/64MB auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
/udev/Camera1 /mnt/Camera auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
/udev/Works128MB1 /mnt/Works128MB vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
none /mnt/dvd-cd supermount 
dev=/dev/hdd,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount 
dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda3 /mnt/empty ext2 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2_boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5_root ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/hdb6_var ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb7 /mnt/hdb7_usr ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb9 /mnt/hdb9_home ext2 defaults 1 2
#Commented out the foll

Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 05:29, rikona wrote:
>
> I just burned a few non-crucial photos to CD using k3b, to give to
> someone else. I did a quick drag and drop, and a slightly different
> sets of options seemed to come up, and in this window was an option to
> do a binary compare. I selected it and it did a verify/compare. I'm
> not sure what was different in my first test of k3b, when it did not
> seem to give me that option, but it DOES look like it will do a
> verify. Whew! Makes us paranoid folks feel lots better. A happy camper
> again

Hi, Rikona.  I tend to use k3b for somethings and XCDRoast for others.  I find 
it easier, for instance, to backup /home/anne excluding certain things in 
XCDRoast, which is why I've mainly used it for backup.  I couldn't see an 
easy way to do that in k3b. Looking at it again, though, it just does things a 
different way i.e. add a whole directory, expand it, then Remove the bits you 
don't want.  Maybe it's time to move to k3b for all the work.  

Thanks for passing this on.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.1- NVidia 1.0-7167 driver

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 08:50, Graham wrote:
>
> I successfully installed the 1.0-7167 driver today. My box is:
>
I was about to copy your message to the person on the kde list, but then saw 
that you had already done so.  (I hadn't spotted that it was the same person 
asking on both lists :-) ).

Could you add this info to the TWiki, on 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ViDeo under the NVidia section, 
please?  Don't forget to mention that the Mdk version is 10.1 (put '%101%' in 
where you want the version to show up).  Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 12 Mar 2005 17:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> > Ok I'm here and have a few minutes before I get started on my home
> > project. Give me a call if you need some help.
> > Skype: djash34
>
> I'm somewhat puzzled by all this.  What exactly is the advantage of Skype
> over GnomeMeeting?  I've spoken to a friend in USA over GM, with video,
> thought it can be used without, and no problems at all with the quality on
> a 512 ADSL connection.
>
> I'm not meaning to be negative - it's just that I wonder what this newer
> product can do that the older one can't.
>
> Anne


Does GnomeMeeting talk to other voip clients?  I'm curious ...  most of my 
friends use MS, and skype has downloads for both.

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[newbie] urgent help - external hd stuff up

2005-03-14 Thread Andrewd
OK I have stuffed up

I had an old 80g hd hanging around so I bought an external hd to plug it
into the computer via the USB as a removable hd.

Anyway I went to partitions within mandrake config selected - it had hda
and sda so on the sda I selected create 

It appears to have moved the usr directory to the sda 

now how do I move it all back help

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[newbie] Mandrake 10.1- NVidia 1.0-7167 driver

2005-03-14 Thread Graham
Don Gregory wrote:
Anybody tried the new 1.0-7167 driver yet?  
I successfully installed the 1.0-7167 driver today. My box is:
Athlon XP2700
512 Mb Ram
GeForce 4 Ti 4600
kernel  Mandrake 2.6.10-1mdk
I could not install from the installer as it could not find the sources.
I could not install with the '--add-this-kernel' option as it could not
find the sources.
Remedy:-
edit /etc/inittab - change init from 5 to 3 (single user mode)
reboot
log in as root
rmmod nvidia
modprobe -q agpart
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7167-pkg1.run -e
Accept the default settings except name the kernel sources as
/usr/src/linux(your kernel)
edit /etc/inittab - change init from 3 (single user mode) to 5 (gui mode)
reboot
A little bit messy but works fine
HTH
Graham



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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 12 Mar 2005 17:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
>
> Ok I'm here and have a few minutes before I get started on my home project.
> Give me a call if you need some help.
> Skype: djash34

I'm somewhat puzzled by all this.  What exactly is the advantage of Skype over 
GnomeMeeting?  I've spoken to a friend in USA over GM, with video, thought it 
can be used without, and no problems at all with the quality on a 512 ADSL 
connection.

I'm not meaning to be negative - it's just that I wonder what this newer 
product can do that the older one can't.

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Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver

2005-03-14 Thread Charles Rodgers
>Hi All,

>Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ?
>Could someone please tell me where and how.

Many thanks for the quick replies, Christopher, Carroll and Kaj.
I'm now working on it :-)

I'll let you know how I get on.

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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-14 Thread SnapafunFrank
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive - 
wait a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from it. That 
is sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage because the 
device appears to be unmounted and will not have the files seen, but 
when I do mount it manually, root can see the files but user cannot, 
making me think at times that I have wiped the flash drive. Further, 
the Howto's I followed allowed me to have any device I plugged in 
recognized for what it is within /mnt - but that has never worked 
since the first reboot though all the files appear to be in place. 
The very first time I tried to test my work, this actually did work, 
and often whilst I was within that session.

( I used the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 

to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

If you set up rules for udev to give specific names to USB devices, in 
place of the names the kernel gives them, you will break the 
automounting that hotplug does. You can create your own rules to 
handle the mounting in place of the standard ones. This allows you to 
control how things get mounted. For example, when you plug in a PNY 
memory stick, you can have it get mounted on /mnt/pny instead 
/dev/removable. (Don't ask for the full details yet - I am still 
playing with this.
My link above may help ?
) You can get more specific, and do things like have 32MB sticks mount 
one place, and 64MB mount in another. Basicly, you can test any of the 
tags that udev know about, and build rules based on them.

While mounting specific memory devices in specific places may not be 
real usuefull, when you start talking about USB hard drives, that is 
another story. If you have more then one partition on the drive, then 
current hotplug code will not mount it. Also, if you have requirments 
that different partitions on the drive be mounted in specific places, 
you can handle them this way. Maybe one partition needs to mount on 
/backup, and another on /opt/pictures, or something like that.

Now, as far as users being able to access files on USB storage 
devices, it depends on how you mount them. If you just do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable", then your users will not be able to 
access the files. But if you do something like
"mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable -o umask=0", then they will have access.

Using sda1 may not be the best choice in this example, as if you plug 
in a USB "PEN" drive, and it uses the default device, it will get 
automounted, but I think you get the idea. If you have udev set to 
create something like /dev/pen and /dev/pen1, then use pen1 in place 
of sda1, and it will work.

Mikkel
Thanks Mikkel
If you follow the above link you will be able to see what I did as I 
followed it precisely.

And as I have said before, during that particular session it actually 
worked exactly as explained in the above howto ~ that is until I got a 
little carried away with changing all my usb memory sticks around 
without waiting long enough for the system to catch up ~ end result - I 
corrupted my .ICEauthority file and within rescue mode had to delete 
that and start again with all my customizing. [ Still finding stuff that 
needs to be updated because of this. ]

Anyway, your comments above make a lot of sense so I'm off to check 
things out before posting this:

First up:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] frank]$ cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext2 defaults 0 0
#I added to following three lines but before the reboot they were the 
last three entries here
#And now to try to get user able to at least read the device contents I 
shall:
# - Comment out the next three entries
# - Copy the three entries below and edit them thus:
# - 1st go = same as for cdrom
#/udev/16MB1 /mnt/16MB vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
#/udev/64MB1 /mnt/64MB vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
#/udev/Camera1 /mnt/Camera vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
/udev/16MB1 /mnt/16MB auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
/udev/64MB1 /mnt/64MB auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
/udev/Camera1 /mnt/Camera auto umask=0,user,vfat,ext2,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
/udev/Works128MB1 /mnt/Works128MB vfat,ext2 user,noauto,rw 0 0
none /mnt/dvd-cd supermount 
dev=/dev/hdd,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount 
dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda3 /mnt/empty ext2 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2_boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5_root ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/hdb6_var ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb7 /mnt/hdb7_usr ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb9 /mnt/hdb9_home ext2 defaults 1 2
#Commented out the following line to try to ge

[newbie] Can not compose mails

2005-03-14 Thread Tahir Abdullah
Hi all
Today I am finding a strange problem. When I open my university E-Mail page 
it opens my INBOX but as soon as I press "compose" but it closes all the 
browsers windows. The same was happening with hotmail but now it opened 
first time and I am writing this mail I don't know whether I would be able 
to send it. I am using Mandrake 9.2.

The second thing is I usually have to set 7/8 PATH variables or environment 
variables. I have written a script. I run this script and it runs but I need 
to export the variables after this otherwise my program does not work. I 
also tried to put it in .bash_profile and .bashrc but nothing happens and I 
could not set them permanantly.
Any suggestion please. Thanks for your time. I am in trouble.
Tahir


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