Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:02 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the Linksys router setup?). How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? Thanks, You will need to open a port on your router. The details on this depend on the router. Typically you tell it what port you want to open, and the lan IP of the computer to which traffic on that port should go. You can set the port here: control center-internetnetwork-destop sharing-network tab It looks like it uses port 5900 by default, so try opening that first. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The name of show desktop process ??
On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there What is the name of process (command) that makesshow desktop work ??? and where is it ?? Thanks Hertas From googling a bit: the show desktop and K icons are not aplications like the other icons, and there is no command you can use. You wanted to change the icons in an earlier post. To change the icon you can either install a complete new set of icons... Or you can find the file for the current icon, back it up and substitute your new one for it. Yout current icon depends on your current theme and the current size of the icons in the panel. Through experimenting I found that I currently use this icon: path to KDE/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/filesystems/desktop.png when I move the mouse over the current icon on the desktop it animates slightly by showing a larger icon, that icon is stored here: path to KDE/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/filesystems/desktop.png I'm using the crystalsvg theme, with 32x32 pixel icons then... Yours may differ if you use a different theme or different sized panel, just figure out where yours are looking in the subdirectories of KDE/share/icons with konqueror. I use path to KDE because I'm not running mandrake at the moment (using LFS) and so I'm not certain of the whole path. Once you know the path to your desktop.png icon(s), then as root rename them desktop.png.old. Get new icons matching the sizes of those you are replacing. Move your new icons into the correct folders and rename them as desktop.png. KDE will use them when it restarts. If you want to do the K icons, mine is here: path to KDE/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kmenu.png I think the go.png icon in the same subdirectory is used with some themes. Now my show desktop looks like favorites, until I move the mouse over it and it turns into an ftp icon. I'm too lazy to change it back. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware diagnostics (old Dell)
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 10:46 pm, Björn Olsson wrote: Anyone here good at diagnosing hardware failures? I recently got a spare Dell Optiplex GX1 to bring home from work. It came without memory, HDD och CD, so I had to search my stock for suitable parts. But today, when I were to bring life to my creation, it simply refused to cooperate! I feel very offended and rightfully upset :) Power to diodes on front YES Power to HDD YES Power to CD YES Power to CPU fan YES Power to expansion cardYES Power to monitorYES Power to keyboard NJET And there was no signal to the monitor. I tried with two different monitors and a separate graphics card as well as the onboard one. Any suggestions welcomed Björn You didn't mention swapping the PSU or mobo, but just in case... I'm not sure if they still do it, but dell used to use a non-standard ATX design. This meant you had to use a Dell power supply with a Dell motherboard. When I tried upgrading a Dell with a new motherboard it took me ages to work that out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] There are something wrong in mdk-9.2 iso(cd 2 and 3)
Lucio_Costa wrote: Greetings All. I downloaded (torrent) the 3 mdk-9.2 iso files. MDK-9.2-1.iso (667.620 KB); MDK-9.2-2.iso (714.646 KB) and MDK-9.2-3.iso (711.864 KB). I'm using a Windows XP box (ugly) and I have Nero6 installed in this Pc. What's is happening: I'm trying to burne this files in a 80min Cdr, but Nero can't do it. Size of Track: 698MB (714,646 KB). The erro message: There is not enough space to burn this compilation onto this disk... I believe that size of image is too large to be burned in 80min CDR. Can Someone help me with suggestions to fix this doubt? I had the same thing with a 9.2rc2 iso. Turns out the download was bad. I'd expect this to be the problem. Note the iso image will easily fit onto a 80 min CDr. The value you see stamped on a cd (700MB for an 80 minute cd) is the total size of files you can fit on a CDr. When these files are written, additional information is also written - the file system and error protection. The total amount of data that gets stored on the cdr is therefore larger than the total file size. ISO files already have some of this extra data in them and so you can burn ISO files larger than the number stamped on the disk. BIN files (another cd image file type) store all the extra data. You can burn an 807MB BIN file to a 700MB CDr without overburning. See: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/archive/t135642.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 23:37, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but just right now I can't seem to find it. Not looking in the right help file or man page, I guess. I did google on install and install problems and such, came across a couple of pages but nothing that actually explain what to do when it doesn't work. I'm trying to install a program to do some basic diagrams of PA systems etc - it's called dia-0.91. The instructions say: INSTALL: install it by doing: make install but all I get when I try that is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# I tried pasting that error message into google.com/linux but I only found some discussions about problem with other programs. I tried man make but it says I should just have to type make by itself, and it should suffice. It goes on to say that make will look for a makefile - and I can see in Konquerer there are 3: makefile.am, makefile.in and makefile.msc. They're right there in the same directory I'm in. I thought it might be some kind of permissions problem, but I entered SU and the root password and tried again with the same result. I'm beginning to think there's something basic broken on my system - the simplest little things don't seem to work for me - things you guys seem to take for granted. like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# whereami bash: whereami: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ urpmi bash: urpmi: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ path bash: path: command not found and there's a bunch of others too, I just can't think of them atm. btw when you download something and then [try to] install it, where are you supposed to install it to? I just took a look. What you downloaded is the source code for the program. The program needs to be built (aka compiled) and then installed. As you have not done the building bit, there is nothing for make install to do. You'll get a better explaination of this here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html To build and install the program, I did: tar -jxvf dia-0.91.tar.bz2 (this extracts it) cd dia-0.91 (enter the directory) ./configure (this prepares for the actual build. It may fail if you don't have the particular software development packages that it needs installed. If this happens you need to install those packages and run ./configure again) make (this runs the source through the compiler) make install (installs the programs you just made you should be su for this bit) Different programs install to different places. Hopefully the place will be in your path and so you will be able to run it. If you scroll through the text created by make install you should see where it went (looks like most went into usr/local/share). To see your path you can use: echo $PATH To change the path you can use export PATH=/wherever:/and/here which would overwrite your current path to contain just those two locations /wherever and /and/here. Colons separate the path locations. I echo the current path, and then rewrite the whole thing with whatever I'm adding to it. There must be more crafty techniques, but I'm a newbie... I dont know about whereami but pwd shows the Present Working Directory - where you are. I found that by accident when I didn't type passwd. cron doesn't work for me at the prompt either. However it is running as a service (look in the services in the control centre), and the command crontab does work. I don't know anything about cron yet... Oh, dia works for me. Whatever it is. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to print on a remote printer?
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 15:16, p s wrote: In our local network (with win-nt server) we have a postscript printer. I can find it with LinNeighborhood (by using 'scan as user' and giving my login name and password), but MCC doesn't find it (perhaps not surprisingly). How could I use it from this machine running Mandrake? I was in the same situation. I switched printerdrake to expert mode (options-expert mode) , clicked add printer, selected printer on SMB/Windows 95/98/NT Server. You then have screens to enter the network details for the printer, and the printer model. It worked first time for me printing to a canon on a windows XP machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very basic bash question
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 4:10 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I studied the bash documentation reasonably thoroughly, including man mv and info mv, but I haven`t found the answer to this; so I am hoping for a simple answer here: Often I am in /home/dvg/foo and want to move files from /home/dvg/foo/bar to ~/foo. I can`t find a command shortcut to do this. Until now I have had to work around by: cd bar mv file* .. s (=alias for cd ..) Naturally I could have done: mv /bar/file* ~/foo, but sometimes my current prompt is several levels down and I prefer to keep it short and simple. I`m sure there is an easier way. TIA for your answer. Regards, =Dick Gevers= . Mandrake visibility? See headers... . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/dFb8wC/zk+cxEdMRAum9AJ92+9vZGP/8NSxZki68DxnZm83Q6QCgoIif aGogvymnC5ixKS4qwm3Cmk8= =nRjw -END PGP SIGNATURE- argh, test worked ... didn't think it would. Anyway: mv ~/foo/bar/file ~/foo -should work from any directory. If you were in foo you could use: mv bar/file . - not /bar/file though as this would point to a directory called bar under / - the . stands for the current directory. If you are moving files all the time you could do: export foobar=~/foo/bar - this sets the variable foobar to hold the path to save having to type it. from then on you could use: mv $foobar/file $foobar/.. If you wanted to you could edit ~/.bash_profile so that the variable foobar is set when you start bash. add the following: foobar=~/foo/bar export foobar This wouldn't be much use unless this file moving of yours is always from bar to foo. I'm reading through this basic stuff at the moment. I didn't understand where ~/ was. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 5:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everytime I get one I reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Fix your email. Doesn't bounce back, but it might go to /dev/null, I suppose. looks like it comes from here: http://kaluga.mts.ru/mts/ru-full/welcome Looking at the archive, everything has been tried. I'll ask a russian speaking friend to e-mail them anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 12:42 am, Julian wrote: On Monday 22 Sep 2003 5:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everytime I get one I reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Fix your email. Doesn't bounce back, but it might go to /dev/null, I suppose. looks like it comes from here: http://kaluga.mts.ru/mts/ru-full/welcome Looking at the archive, everything has been tried. I'll ask a russian speaking friend to e-mail them anyway. english page: http://www.mtsgsm.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] restart network after losing wireless connectivity
When my wireless link quality gets so bad I disconnect I can't get back on the network without rebooting. I'm not sure how to make the card scan and reconnect to my router. The wireless card is a belkin in a belkin cradle f5d6000/f5d6020. It was set up automatically when I installed the OS (MDK9.1). The network uses fixed IPs. I have tried this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# su [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# cd /etc/init.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# ./network restart Shutting down loopback interface: [ OK ] Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up loopback interface: [ OK ] Bringing up interface eth0: Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) : SET failed on device eth0 ; Invalid argument. Failed to bring up eth0. SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy [FAILED] If I do the same thing when everything is working (after booting for example) I get: Shutting down interface eth0: [ OK ] Shutting down loopback interface: [ OK ] Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up loopback interface: [ OK ] Bringing up interface eth0: [ OK ] other stuff: var/log/messages - when I ran ./network restart after losing connectivity: Sep 7 02:34:57 localhost kernel: eth0: Error -110 disabling MAC port Sep 7 02:34:57 localhost network: Shutting down interface eth0: succeeded Sep 7 02:34:57 localhost network: Shutting down loopback interface: succeeded Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost network: Setting network parameters: succeeded Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost network: Bringing up loopback interface: succeeded Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost kernel: hermes @ IO 0xd000: Timeout waiting for command completion. Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost kernel: hermes @ IO 0xd000: Error -16 issuing command. Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost last message repeated 7 times Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost ifup: Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) : Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost ifup: SET failed on device eth0 ; Invalid argument. Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost kernel: hermes @ IO 0xd000: Error -16 issuing command. Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost kernel: eth0: Error -16 setting MAC address Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost kernel: eth0: Error -16 configuring card Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost ifup: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost ifup: Failed to bring up eth0. Sep 7 02:34:58 localhost network: Bringing up interface eth0: failed Sep 7 02:35:04 localhost rwhod[1271]: sendto(192.168.0.255): Network is unreachable Sep 7 02:38:04 localhost rwhod[1271]: sendto(192.168.0.255): Network is unreachable Sep 7 02:41:04 localhost rwhod[1271]: sendto(192.168.0.255): Network is unreachable # iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:RUPERT Nickname:localhost Mode:Managed Frequency:2.452GHz Access Point: 00:3B:AF:19:E8:26 Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:28/92 Signal level:-74 dBm Noise level:-149 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Its not a huge problem as it occurs infrequently, but I would rather not have to reboot. Unfortunately I'll have to wait for the link to fail again before trying out any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mplayer homepage
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/ I hope I dont see that for real Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] DVD Player for *all* formats
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 3:13 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Ok, so this is waay offtopic-day for me, but I wonder if I can get some feedback on this. I got some b-day money, and I want to buy a DVD player, but I want it to be able to play almost anything I throw in it, especially divx movies that I have on CD. It should also be able to play mp3, but that's usually standard. Does anyone out there *personally* own a DVD player that will reliably play avi/divx movies on CDROM? Thanks a bunch! not personally own, but these always get good reviews (pricey though) http://www.kiss-technology.com/templates/side.asp?level=1pid=411 The dp-50 does divx (3.11,4,5), xvid, mp3, ogg, mpeg4, picture cds and can even stream the video over the internet via its network interface. Costs £222. Drool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blaster worm
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 2:21 am, Dennis Myers wrote: Wow, I have been getting email with the blaster worm attached by the bucket full. All addressed to the business email address or saying that my send failed to soandso because the attached file has a worm. And the so called contaminated file is attached. Funny though I use kmail with firewalls one on the machine and one on the router and none of the addresses that I supposedly sent the worm to are in or ever have been in my address book. A ruse or will kmail or linux somehow transmit a worm to an unknown email address? Any one have an idea what is going on and or seen this type of email before? I can find no indication that I have the blaster worm. And if I did why would it work? Time for a disk wipe? TIA for any advice. When ths happens it often means that someone with your e-mail address in their address book is infected. The virus on their system mails people spoofing it as coming from you. Check the headers of the attached mails to see if you can find out who is actually infected and e-mail them or e-mail their ISP. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rar files
On Tuesday 08 Jul 2003 5:33 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: I decided I want to play with Deb, but need to deal with a rar file to get started. Do I need to buy rar or is there another way to decompress the file? Looked like mc would do it but when I try to open the file an error tells me it can't find /user/share/mc/extfs/unrar: line 27: rar: command not found. In case it matters the extfs throws me too - I'm using Reiser fs Curt no other reply points to: http://www.rarlabs.com/download.htm You don't need to buy anyting if you are un-raring. The licence is only required for rar-ing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] par archives
On Wednesday 02 Jul 2003 7:27 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Does anybody know how to extract the file contained in pars? (ie, .p01, .p02, .p03,). This is gettin to be very popular on USEnet for uploading large binaries in parts. I got the par-v1.1.tar.gz an compiled the binary, then put it in /usr/bin , but 'par -h' doesn't help much, and Google can't find any docs or much of anything for that matter. There's a mailing list, but it only has two mesgs on it, and no archive. http://parchive.sourceforge.net/ I tried both 'par c(check)' and 'par m (Try to restore from all parity files at once), eg 'par m filename.p01', but both tell me that all the .po's are OK, but all the rar's are missing. I've inferred that par files were supposed to contain the whole archived original file, save d/l'g by not needing all the rar parts, no? Par files are not like zips or other compressed files and you cant extract from them directly. They are of use when you are unable to get all the files in a large group of files, typically rars. More about how it works here: http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=6 par is quitting on you as you have no rars, and therefore it doesn't have enough information to rebuild anything from the pars - it rebuilds all or nothing. (You can make pars for files other than rars. If you wanted you could make pars for a mixed group of file-types all of different sizes. The pars you made would all be the size of the largest member of that group.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problems with BitTorrent
On Thursday 29 May 2003 3:08 pm, ThinKer wrote: does anyone know where I can download and install BitTorrent for Mandrake 9.0? I found some RPM's at http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=BitTorrent but none of them seem to be installing correctly. Thanks, Thinker if you've had no luck so far heres a client for BT http://www.klomp.org/snark/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing Java...
OK... now I've got 9.0 working, time to do something with it! I need Java on here, so I've downloaded the .bin distribution from Sun. Since I'm still a Clueless Newbie at this stage, I want advice on the best place to install it... On a Windows machine I'd just install it any-dam-where and add the directory to the path. Is this the recommended way on Linux, or should the Java folder tree live somewhere in particular? Thanks! julian Templeman Consulting Ltd. London and North Wales Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem Running 9.0...
et said... if you went with the linux 3 then the mode your computer should be in is text mode (25x80) and I am pretty darn sure the monitor supports that. what may be happening is that the network is misconfigured or some otehr problem, if you leave it like that and go to lunch, it might just time out on what ever is the problem, and come back on. It looks like it was the monitor being asked to try some mode it wasn't happy with I managed to borrow another one, hooked it up and all started fine. I changed the resolution back to 800x600 and the original monitor now works. The system is running very slowly -- far more slowly than the Win2k that's on there as well -- but at least I can see what's going on now! Thanks for your time... julian Templeman Consulting Ltd. London and North Wales Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problem Running 9.0...
Hi... I've just tried my first installation of 9.0 onto a Windows 2000 machine. The installation didn't show up any problems, and the boot manager lets me happily boot up into either 2000 or Linux. The problem occurs when Linux starts up. All the startup text appears OK, and then the screen goes blank. The disk is still being accessed, so I assume things are still running, but the monitor lights show me that it thinks it doesn't have a signal. I'm assuming that this is related to the changeover from text mode to the graphical UI... The only thing I did during setup that might affect this was to choose 1024 by 768 rather than the default 800 by 600... Any suggestions gratefully received! julian Templeman Consulting Ltd. London and North Wales Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem Running 9.0...
et said... next time, when it tries to start, when you have the chance to chose between windows and linux, hit tab, then type without the quotes, linux 3. this will cause the GUI (XFree86) to not start. login as your root user, and type XFdrake' (note the caps, very important in *nix). this will bring up the configuration utility to setup the GUI. Thanks for this... Unfortunately the same thing still happens... it gets through starting all the services, then nothing. julian Templeman Consulting Ltd. London and North Wales Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives?
I've been on a Western Digital trip for several years now and have no reason to change. I've used several professionally over the past decade, and own three of them personally (bought within the last three years) at last count. They are running 24/7, and I've never had so much as a squeak from them. I bought an 80G/7200RPM unit from Office Max (yes, really: they have great deals from time to time) last Christmas for $80 with combined O-Max and manufacturers rebates. I've just bought my second for $100 after mail in rebate. I have one Maxtor (Circuit City re-label) that likewise been flawless, but I realize that's not a good sample. Finally, I have one IBM drive (only a 1Gig or so) that must be five years old now, that is also running 24/7, and showing no signs of failing. Workload? I run SETI on my 4 machines - two Linux, two Wintendo - so the drives certainly aren't idle. just my 2c. julian. At 12:55 AM 7/10/02, you wrote: I have mixed reports on the Maxtor disks. I've had two die on me within their guarantee period. However, the replacements have worked fine. Barry Michels wrote: Maxtor?!? All but 2 I've been around (at work) have died at one time or another. I would never buy a Maxtor or Quantum. YMMV - Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives? Miark wrote: I never had one, but I understood they were very good. But I thought IBM is getting out of the hard drive business...? Miark Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: What's your opinion of IBM Hard Drives? I was going to continue buying them since IBM is a supporter of Linux. However, some of the customer feedbacks I've been reading makes me apprehensive about touching these. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Basically, stay away. The new ones are not rated for 24/7 operation. The only decent drives left in IDE seem to be Maxtor, and I have returned one of their 60G models this year. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 612.296.2010 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives?
At 06:20 AM 7/10/02, you wrote: Western Digital drives are by far the worst you can get. Officially, the company only supports Windows and Solaris, so if you choose any other OS (like GNU/Linux) you're on your own. WD drives lack some vital CRC circuitry, and they don't comply fully with the ATA spec. If you use such a drive at anything faster than ATA/66 (IIRC) in GNU/Linux, expect massive filesystem corruption. Well, I guess I didn't know that. Maybe now I do, my drives will start to fail :-( Thanks for the heads-up, though :-) j. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] what to use for hostname
Do you actually want dynamic DNS, or do you have a static IP? If you want static, I just signed up with granite canyon (www.granitecanyon.com) . It was easy to do, fast, and free (as in no dollars). If you need a domain name, I just registered mine with Go Daddy (www.godaddy.com). You can't beat $8.95 a year. j. = At 08:50 AM 1/7/02 -0600, you wrote: geez ... my mistake ... i should have more coffe before i try to make an ass of myself obviously, i went to dyndns.com, not dyndns.org ... my apologies to the list ... - Original Message - From: kenn@yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] what to use for hostname well, i guess i was too late ... i just went to www.dyndns.com and discovered that they no longer offer free accounts ... $50 a year is not an outrageous amount, but i'd still prefer a free service ... does anyone have any other recommendations on where to find a free dns service ? thanks. kennM - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] what to use for hostname yup, that rocks, mine is gshop.kicks-ass.net and I got it from dyndns. rgds frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy Kramer Sent: Friday, 4 January 2002 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] what to use for hostname Dave Sherman wrote: This is partially true. To receive mail, you need to have a domain to which people can send. And to send or relay mail, many servers are set to refuse mail from another server (like yours) to which they can't do a dns lookup and verify your server's fully qualified domain name (fqdn). One workaround for this is to register with dyndns.org or another free dns service, in which you will be given a host name like sildara.dyndns.org (that's mine). Then, if you set up your mail server to use this valid fqdn, you are good to go. I use postfix, and it was quite simple to get going. Dave, Thanks! Randy Kramer -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me ... Julian Opificius. ICQ 3268206. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
Gerald, At 07:40 AM 1/4/02 -0500, you wrote: So what you're saying is that the hosts file is used only by the local machine, right? Correct! And is NOT used by bind, right? Correct! Oh dear ... Usually the resolv.conf on Linux would have a line order hosts bind. Which means look at hosts then use bind. Yes but only for himself, not used to give DNS resolution to others on the LAN. What good is that??? My Linux box is supposed to be a server! So who is it that will resolve IPs for machine on the LAN? Where would bind get the info from to resolve local requests ? It has to go in a static file somewhere. If the ip / fqdn is not in the hosts file, the system uses the nameserver entries But even if the fqdn IS in the hosts file, it wont serve it to the local LAN if hosts isn't used in DNS resolution! There's no point in a local machine going up to my ISP's nameserver to find name/address mappings for another machine on my computer is there? DNS for the local LAN has to be handled by a NS that has authority for my LAN. Who else could that be than my local Linux server running DNS? Here's my line-up: My fixed IP is 209.173.210.166, and it has a real name of julianop.swdata.com. I'm making julianop.swdata.com a subdomain, and will, when I get this all sorted out, run FTP, HTPP, SMTP, and POP3 servers. But I'm not there yet ... I have four machines: anoka.julianop.swdata.com (linux server at 10.0.0.2, DNS set to 206.196.47.10 20), sierra.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.3, DNS to 10.0.0.2), monsta.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.5, DNS to 10.0.0.2), and pongo.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.5, DNS to 10.0.0.2). They are on my private lan, behind NAT. No DNS server in the world is going to answer a DNS request from sierra asking what pongo's IP address is. Sierra doesn't yet know that pongo is on it's own subnet - it could be off in Outer Mongolia, so it sends a DNS request to the DNS server it's been told to ask for IP resolution. Who fulfills DNS requests for local machines if not anoka? I've been told that bind doesn't look at /etc/hosts, which brought my world crashing down. Now what? :-) Thanks for your patience with me, I'm sure we're nearly at the bottom of this. julian. = Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
Michael, At 09:38 AM 1/4/02 -0600, you wrote: Who fulfills DNS requests for local machines if not anoka? I've been told that bind doesn't look at /etc/hosts, which brought my world crashing down. Now what? :-) Thanks for your patience with me, I'm sure we're nearly at the bottom of this. julian. if you are running DNS (named / bind), on anoka, and have the others set to look at anoka for dns, then anoka will look at the files under /var/named (or whatever the directory option is set to in /etc/named.conf). These files (either directly under /var/named, or under some subdirectory (possibly zone), are what will equate a name to an IP on your local network. Now we seem to be getting somewhere ... To set all this up, you'd have to learn bind's syntax for what it calls 'zone' files. AHA! So bind DOES do local DNS, it just doesn't use /hosts to do it. It uses another file type. Bingo!!! I think this is the diamond I've been looking for! Thanks! I'll go off and research that. Thanks again. Julian. == Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
Gerald, At 10:53 AM 1/4/02 -0500, you wrote: There's no point in a local machine going up to my ISP's nameserver to find name/address mappings for another machine on my computer is there? DNS for the local LAN has to be handled by a NS that has authority for my LAN. Who else could that be than my local Linux server running DNS? Yes only for himself, and all the systems on your local Lan need the same hosts file information, So they all do it for themselves. If it's not in the hosts file (not on the local lan) it queries the nameservers. Here's my line-up: My fixed IP is 209.173.210.166, and it has a real name of julianop.swdata.com. I assume that the registered domain is swdata.com w/ ip 209.173.210.166 I assume that the Linux box will have two NICS one NIC with ip 209.173.210.166 which will be connected to the Internet (with a registered FQDN) and the second NIC with ip 10.0.0.1/24 which will be connected to your local LAN The local lan will use a local non-registered FQDN (maybe mydomain.zzz) And the Linux system will be doing Network Address Translation (Masq) No, the Cisco 678 DSL router does NAT, and handles that for me - much simpler!!! I'm making julianop.swdata.com a subdomain, and will, when I get this all sorted out, run FTP, HTPP, SMTP, and POP3 servers. Are you going to run these services on the gateway machine (above)? On the Linux box, which won't be the gateway: The Cisco router will, as stated above. I have four machines: anoka.julianop.swdata.com (linux server at 10.0.0.2, DNS set to 206.196.47.10 20), sierra.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.3, DNS to 10.0.0.2), monsta.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.5, DNS to 10.0.0.2), and pongo.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.5, DNS to 10.0.0.2). They are on my private lan, behind NAT. No DNS server in the world is going to answer a DNS request from sierra asking what pongo's IP address is. Are you going to use port forwarding? That's how the various services like SMTP, HTTP, get from outside real world IPs to local private IPs, right? If so, the Cisco router will do that. Are you going to do VPN (Virtual Private Network)? No. Shouldn't these local lan machines use a non-registered domain name? They could. But as the Linux box will be providing services to the outside world, it's easier to put them all on the same subdomain and let the router do the mapping. Sierra doesn't yet know that pongo is on it's own subnet - it could be off in Outer Mongolia, so it sends a DNS request to the DNS server it's been told to ask for IP resolution. These machines are all on the same subnet 10.0.0.0/24 Right. Who fulfills DNS requests for local machines if not anoka? I've been told that bind doesn't look at /etc/hosts, which brought my world crashing down. Now what? :-) Is anoka the gateway machine? No, the DSL router is. I want the Linux box to serve local DNS and POP3, and local/remote SMTP, HTTP, and FTP. Julian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] spamed by Desired Design?
Yes, it's their autoresponder. When they come back from lunch and check their mail they'll have egg on face ... ;-) j. At 06:50 PM 1/4/02 +0100, you wrote: As an answer to my shoutcast question I got a response from Desired Design saying thank you for contacting Desired Design. the subject was Re: [newbie] Shoutcast. has anyone else encountered this? Thanks in advance, Stojs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question - school related -- Have we been conned????
Or, from a slightly different perspective ... My favorite tag-line, which till now I've not used on this list, is Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T after me. j. === At 10:15 PM 1/4/02 -0800, you wrote: Well, so far the other shoe hasn't dropped. As for a targeted mail campain it would suck. They failed to ask for our names. I won't even get one of those: Dear MR SMITH we have recently heard that you surf for FOURTY PLUS hours per week. Kind of letters. They could have collected email addresses just by sifting the archives. Less effort, more results. As for the lack of a .edu email, I think only the staff would get those. I thought that this sounded like a continuing education thing. Some of the universities in my province are: www.sfu.ca www.uvic.ca www.cariboo.bc.ca www.ubc.ca Not a dot edu in the bunch. Guess they're not American eh? :) Remember. You aren't paranoid if the world really is out to get you. Grant Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me ... Julian Opificius. ICQ 3268206. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] spamed by Desired Design?
There now, didn't I say that's what it was? j. At 06:58 AM 1/5/02 +, you wrote: My apologies for my autoresponder. I hope this has not caused anyone any trouble! - Original Message - From: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] spamed by Desired Design? Stojs wrote: As an answer to my shoutcast question I got a response from Desired Design saying thank you for contacting Desired Design. the subject was Re: [newbie] Shoutcast. has anyone else encountered this? Yes, I got the same message. No idea why or where it came from, I just chalked it up to one of the occasional glitches that occurs in the best laid plans of men. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me ... Julian Opificius. ICQ 3268206. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question - school related so ignore if you want.
Here's another ... 1. 10 2. 46 3. M 4. ADSL 640/256 5. 5 As an aside, I'm truly impressed that people happily helped this lad out by replying, rather than telling him to take it elsewhere. Just goes to show what a great community is built around Linux and FSF. Yeah, I know, what a kiss-@$$ Of course, it gives us all an opportunity to bond (read:brag) a little ... ;- j. = At 01:26 AM 1/3/02 -0800, you wrote: I need to do a project for my statistics class and thought this place would be perfect for it. I need 50 people to answer this and it would be greatly appreciated. This is for a Elementary Statistics course for a project I am doing. It's a wintersession course and I need to collect this information ASAP. I need a total of 50 people to respond. Thanks again if you decide to answer these questions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question - school related so ignore if you want.
At 11:17 PM 1/3/02 +0200, you wrote: As an aside, I'm truly impressed that people happily helped this lad out by replying, I'm sure others, like myself, replied by private mail. But what surprised me was how *old* we are on average! Nothing like the teenage linux geek stereotype. Yes, that's the first thing that hit me :-) It's probably the primary reason why there's much less flaming and other transient instability on this list - for which I'm thankful. rather than telling him to take it elsewhere. I had to bite my tongue to stop myself from pointing out the flaws in his research design. But that is what his teacher gets paid for ... Yup. Hours on-line is not necessarily meaningful, number of computers says little, addressing his email to a mailing list - especially a newbie list - which is, by definition a fast-response Internet communications channel requiring continuous on-line activity, etc, etc. Hey, what the heck: statistics are for marketing folk. With any luck, he'll figure out he wants to come to the real world and join the techie crowd on this list and deal with the REAL problems of life ;- j. == -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] named configuration
Is there some willing chap who can help me configure named.conf? julian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
Hi Ed, This is what I sent to Ric Tibbets privately. He bravely offered to help. As I said to to him, I have configured a DNS server before - bind, on NT, but it was long enough ago that although I undertand the concepts of DNS well enough, I've forgotten some of the basic terms, and the linux info is cryptic, and is no reminder for me. Here are the basic data: My fixed IP is 209.173.210.166. The friendly name of my sub-domain is julianop.swdata.com. My ISP is putting it out to the world today, hopefully. My upstream DNS servers are 206.196.47.10 20. My LAN is currently behind my Cisco 678 dsl router which is doing NAT and answers to 10.0.0.1 My Linux box is called anoka.julianop.swdata.com at 10.0.0.2, and should be the primary dns server for my LAN, which is to say that my WIn98/2k boxes will look to 10.0.0.2 for DNS. anoka also has the alias mail.julianop.swdata.com, as it will run sendmail (or more likely Postfix) and a POP3 server when I find one. LAN Win98/2k stations are sierra/pongo/monsta.julianop.swdata.com at 10.0.0.3/5/4 respectively. Anoka should run bind (named) and:- a) serve DNS for local LAN-based machines on the julianop.swdata.com sub-domain from /etc/hosts, and b) go to the ISP's DNS mentioned above for Internet DNS lookups. That's it ! I've played with bindconf, but need a little refresher on what's what. julian. At 07:55 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote: On Thursday 03 January 2002 17:16, you wrote: Is there some willing chap who can help me configure named.conf? julian. the best help may come in defining your needs or requirements. are you running an ISP? and _need_ a DNS server? how large a network are you configuring? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
Ed, I understand the /etc/hosts file. But I thought named was the guy that shared the info in /etc/hosts with client machines making dns requests. Do i have it wrong? Second, what is resolv.conf all about? I noticed with surprise that I have one with the correct ISP DNS servers already in /etc. I didn't put it there, so some configurator I ran today must have done so. Third, where is the hosts/resolv/dns ordering done? I remember seeing something like that in smb.conf. The question remains: how (by what service) does the linux box resolve dns requests for the other machines on the LAN? julian. == At 10:40 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote: I would expect that for this network, if it was me, to not use named, but set up a /etc/hosts file and an /etc/resolv.conf file, setting network search resoulution for hosts, resolver, dns. that way befor the dns was required, the computer searches the host file for the IP of the local network, does not find it there, looks for resov.conf, finds the dns numbers for the ISP. Nmaed is a bit of overhead most folks don't really need. On Thursday 03 January 2002 20:31, you wrote: Hi Ed, This is what I sent to Ric Tibbets privately. He bravely offered to help. As I said to to him, I have configured a DNS server before - bind, on NT, but it was long enough ago that although I undertand the concepts of DNS well enough, I've forgotten some of the basic terms, and the linux info is cryptic, and is no reminder for me. Here are the basic data: My fixed IP is 209.173.210.166. The friendly name of my sub-domain is julianop.swdata.com. My ISP is putting it out to the world today, hopefully. My upstream DNS servers are 206.196.47.10 20. My LAN is currently behind my Cisco 678 dsl router which is doing NAT and answers to 10.0.0.1 My Linux box is called anoka.julianop.swdata.com at 10.0.0.2, and should be the primary dns server for my LAN, which is to say that my WIn98/2k boxes will look to 10.0.0.2 for DNS. anoka also has the alias mail.julianop.swdata.com, as it will run sendmail (or more likely Postfix) and a POP3 server when I find one. LAN Win98/2k stations are sierra/pongo/monsta.julianop.swdata.com at 10.0.0.3/5/4 respectively. Anoka should run bind (named) and:- a) serve DNS for local LAN-based machines on the julianop.swdata.com sub-domain from /etc/hosts, and b) go to the ISP's DNS mentioned above for Internet DNS lookups. That's it ! I've played with bindconf, but need a little refresher on what's what. julian. At 07:55 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote: On Thursday 03 January 2002 17:16, you wrote: Is there some willing chap who can help me configure named.conf? julian. the best help may come in defining your needs or requirements. are you running an ISP? and _need_ a DNS server? how large a network are you configuring? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Delays
I'm getting blazing speeds - almost conversational , but I'm in the US. Where are you, the Philippines? Most likely a problem with your ISP. julian. === At 09:31 AM 1/4/02 -0500, you wrote: hi, am i the only one experiencing delay? i began noticing yesterday that the answers i post to some questions only gets delivered to me the day after. if that is the case, pardon for those who may be irritated by these seemingly 'late' answers. ciao! -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 2305 B West Tower, Philippines Stocks Exchange Center, Exchange Road, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
Ed, At 11:28 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote: On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:51 pm, Julian Opificius wrote: Ed, I understand the /etc/hosts file. But I thought named was the guy that shared the info in /etc/hosts with client machines making dns requests. Do i have it wrong? YES Sorry to but in; you're more than welcome ! if you are not going to use a local nameserver then every computer must have an hosts file. Aargh! That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid by running bind! Windows machines use a \windows\hosts or maybe diff on win2k If you fill in the hosts file with the ip and names the sysem checks it first, then if it can't find it it calls on the ISP nameservers. so, edit the hosts file for your windows systems and for Linux system. setup the windows network to use your gateway (10.0.0.1) and isp nameservers. and your good to go! No thanks, I'll learn bind, on principle. I've never shied away from a bit of hard work ;- It's not that it wouldn't work, but I'm trying to learn this stuff so I know the big picture and can use it elsewhere. So what you're saying is that the hosts file is used only by the local machine, right? And is NOT used by bind, right? So who is it that will resolve IPs for machine on the LAN? Where would bind get the info from to resolve local requests ? It has to go in a static file somewhere. julian. == Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
Michael, Actually it's more than that ... When I looked at the behavior of CD-ROM access my system, it didn't occur to me until after I'd sent the email that I had my Red Hat 7.2 installation up ! Sorry about that :-) j. = At 10:13 AM 1/2/02 -0600, you wrote: Julian, It must be related to what security setting you use. On both a Mandrake 7.2 and an 8.1 box, I have a cdrom group listed. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 10:47 PM 01/01/2002 -0600, you wrote: Well I don't even have a cdrom group, and I assure you I can access the device perfectly well as a regular user. julian. == At 07:24 PM 1/1/02 -0600, you wrote: Gerald, This is actually further restricted, because user(s) mounting / umounting the CDROM must be in the 'cdrom' group. This also applies to the floppy. In order to mount / umount the floppy drive, you must be in the floppy group. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 01:58 PM 01/01/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 01:34 pm, Julian Opificius wrote: If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users in fstab. See man mount. using users will allow any user to umount the filesystem using user allows any user to mount the filesystem but only the user that mounted the filesystem to umount it. Which sounds like a good idea! Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AOL CDROM help!
Well the error you quoted says that iso9660 is not supported by the kernel. Did you create a custom kernel? CD-ROM support must, I think, be explicitly excluded from a default configuration. Of course, I was about to say get a generic kernel from the distro CD ... If you have the package manager installed, I believe it will connect via Internet to the Mandrake site and show available packages, one of which I would imagine would be CD-ROM support. Someone with more experience than me should be able to add more details here. julian. = At 08:01 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: ok i install Linux by CD i know that im just asking that I cannot mount the cdrom when im inside the Linux Systems already (KDE and Gnome) I dont want to reinstall again so what will I do so i will not re-Install again Thanks Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Julian Opificius wrote: How did you install Linux in the first place if not by CD ROM? julian. = At 02:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: Pls help! I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command ls no directories or files found when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom does not mount-I cannot use my cdrom. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Respectfully AOL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no permission to mount cdrom
If I understand that what you're asking for is for multiple users to be able to mount and unmount CD-ROMS, then you must change user to users in fstab. See man mount. julian. At 01:30 PM 1/1/02 -0500, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2002 11:49 am, chris huston wrote: Hello, I can't seem to figure out why my cdrom is unaccessable from my sub user accounts. Because its a removable disk how to I change the permissions? I've tried changing my /mnt/cdrom/ link. here is my fstab /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 my fstab entry is below: (and a user can mount the cdrom) /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 The only diff I see is that hdb instead of hdc The cdrom is normally hdb where hdc is normally a harddrive I used mount /mnt/cdrom and it mounts. Only the user that mounts it can umount it. Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Motions Fowarded :-)
Hear hear !!! Enthusiastically seconded! j. = At 05:37 PM 12/22/01 -0500, you wrote: As long as we're sending salutations..in this case to Civilme for all of his time and efforts spent on this list, I think Sridhar should be honored as well. No question for me this time..just a big thank you..civilme and sridhar..thank you both..and the many others (Ed Tharp..is another ) on this list that give time to help out the less knowledgeble folks. I sure wish I could remember a few more names on here but I'm not even 1/2 way thru my coffee yet..so perhaps a bit later :-) Happy holidays ya'll :-) Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cordless mouse
I have the non-optical Logitech cordless wheel mouse running, and I suspect there's little difference in the PS2 interface side of things. The set-up screen in the installer was real squirrelly, but it works without a problem. j. At 11:00 AM 12/23/01 -0500, you wrote: Has anyone got a Logitech cordless optical scrolling mouse to work with Mandrake? TIA, Randy Donohoe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat
Cheers Brian. I did reboot Win98, and my Redhat shares came back. I rebooted to Mandrake, rebooted Win98, but no luck. I suspect I may have a network configuration error. When I run smbclient on the Mandrake box thus:- smbclient //anoka/distro -U julian I get can't determine network mask for 10.0.0. WARNING: no network interfaceees found However, the LAN is working fine, and also smbclient runs fiine and gives me the local share I wanted. It's only logging in from Win98 that doesn't work - I can't see any shares. Any clues? Julian. = At 11:27 AM 12/21/01 +1100, you wrote: Julian, Check out the newbie archives. There was a long thread which effectively seemed to cover just about everything you could need to know about debugging samba setup problems within the last few weeks. I suspect that if you search it using samba as the keyword you'll find what you need to get it working fast. cheers /Brian clip b.t.w. In the past hour or so I went back and reinstalled Mandrake 8.1. I was a lot more studious of options, and managed to get the installer accept the partitions I'd created in System Commander (a simple /boot, /, /swap setup for now) and things went OK. My just-updated System Commander 7 saw the install (mind you, I was previously at SC2000, which didn't). Only problem was that my CD-ROM drive refused to see my 2ns and 3rd CDs. I burned 'em myself, and Windows see's them. I think I've seen some mention of this before on the list, that sometimes the faster readers are a bit fussy of home-brew CD-Rs. Anyway, I'm now trying to get Samba to work. A Linux share I created was showing upon the Linux box for a while, but then it all went away. I'm really thinking it's Windows, because when I rebooted my RedHat install to cross-check, the shares from that install aren't working either! All I get when I try to access the Linux box in the browser is an invitation to put in a password for the IPC$ share! I'll keep poking at it ;-) j. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] swap memory guidelines
Hi guys I'm stacking my new LM server with 512Meg of RAM (not to mention 80Gigs of HD). How much swap space should I set up? I think I heard somewhere that beyond about 128Meg or so of RAM, matching swap to RAM results in reduced performance. Thanks, julian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] swap memory guidelines
The machine will be combined workstation (nothing really intenstive) and Samba server for three Win98/2000 stations - low usage. Should I match swap space to RAM, then? j. === At 05:15 PM 12/23/01 +1100, you wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:30:12 -0600, Julian Opificius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys I'm stacking my new LM server with 512Meg of RAM (not to mention 80Gigs of HD). How much swap space should I set up? That really depends on what you're doing with the server. If it's RAM-intensive, like multimedia for example, or if you're serving many people at once, then you may need a lot of swap. I think I heard somewhere that beyond about 128Meg or so of RAM, matching swap to RAM results in reduced performance. That hasn't been a problem since early 2.2-series kernels (a few years ago). Thanks, julian. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan One World, One Web, One Programme -- Microsoft Promotional Ad Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer -- Adolf Hitler Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat
Cheers, Ric, Actually Swat came up with absolutely no sweat. I nearly fell off my chair I was so happy with it (not having been able to find it for RedHat 7.2). Seeing all the options clearly laid out made the job a breeze. I'm up and running with Samba :-) Now, if someone would only code up my hide inaccessible directories option for Samba I'd be as happy as a pig in poop :-) j. == At 10:08 PM 12/20/01 -0800, you wrote: Julian; You might want to look into getting swat working, and use that to configure samba. It deffinately shortens the configuration time. Samba can be a bear. There has been a lot of mail about it lately, check the archives as well. Ric PS: Glad to hear you got it installed running! Ya just gotta watch those prompts options. If ya miss the wrong one, pfft! yer toast. :) Julian Opificius wrote: Hi Ric, PS: Julian; You're good sport. You'll do OK with this stuff! :) Cheers Ric - you too :-) b.t.w. In the past hour or so I went back and reinstalled Mandrake 8.1. I was a lot more studious of options, and managed to get the installer accept the partitions I'd created in System Commander (a simple /boot, /, /swap setup for now) and things went OK. My just-updated System Commander 7 saw the install (mind you, I was previously at SC2000, which didn't). Only problem was that my CD-ROM drive refused to see my 2ns and 3rd CDs. I burned 'em myself, and Windows see's them. I think I've seen some mention of this before on the list, that sometimes the faster readers are a bit fussy of home-brew CD-Rs. Anyway, I'm now trying to get Samba to work. A Linux share I created was showing upon the Linux box for a while, but then it all went away. I'm really thinking it's Windows, because when I rebooted my RedHat install to cross-check, the shares from that install aren't working either! All I get when I try to access the Linux box in the browser is an invitation to put in a password for the IPC$ share! I'll keep poking at it ;-) j. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] places to put stuff
Thanks for the input, Civileme. Where would I put the public access directory? Under /home, say /home/public, or is there some other traditional place? If I do this, presumably I could put /home on a separate /dev/hda'n' partition, or, if Santa brings me the new 80G HD I asked for, make it /dev/hdb. Is this reasonable thinking? j. At 04:28 PM 12/21/01 -0900, you wrote: On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 13:42, Julian Opificius wrote: Can anyone tell me the standard places to put files? Specifically :- On a multi-user workstation I would obvious use /home/accountname for personal stuff. If I set up my LM box as a server, accessible by a couple of Windows network clients, with some general directories, at what mount point would the tree start, and is there a standard top level name for it? Fairly logically I would create a separate partition for the stuff tree, or a separate drive even better, right? Recommendations happily accepted. Julian. =_1008974456-11608-1000 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com What I do is make accounts for each winbox just as if they were users, then they have access to mail and other services on the linbox. I use the computer name under samba as the login name for the user account, and the samba password as the password and set the config in Samba to sync the passwords. I usually set up one public access directory that can be shared to everyone and then let the individual /home/user directories be exported to their users. It isn't gilt-edged arrangement but it works for most uses. If you are able to use the linbox as the internet gateway, even better, and if you can use a static IP or use one of the services like dynip or yi.org, then you can set up an effective mail server and use something like kaspersky Anti-Virus on the linbox to filter the garbage out of the mail for the winboxes. The possibilities are really staggering. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] places to put stuff
Now you did it ... answered a question, and set up another ;-) What is /usr/local used for? j. At 05:07 PM 12/21/01 -0900, you wrote: On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 16:37, Julian Opificius wrote: Thanks for the input, Civileme. Where would I put the public access directory? Under /home, say /home/public, or is there some other traditional place? If I do this, presumably I could put /home on a separate /dev/hda'n' partition, or, if Santa brings me the new 80G HD I asked for, make it /dev/hdb. Is this reasonable thinking? j. At 04:28 PM 12/21/01 -0900, you wrote: On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 13:42, Julian Opificius wrote: Can anyone tell me the standard places to put files? Specifically :- On a multi-user workstation I would obvious use /home/accountname for personal stuff. If I set up my LM box as a server, accessible by a couple of Windows network clients, with some general directories, at what mount point would the tree start, and is there a standard top level name for it? Fairly logically I would create a separate partition for the stuff tree, or a separate drive even better, right? Recommendations happily accepted. Julian. Yes, it is and a separate /home partition is a very good policy, because your settings are almost all preserved when the next edition comes along and you find that the Update facility doesn't do much with old soft links and causes problems--usually with /usr/local and /home on separate partitions, the best update is install without formatting those partitions. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] places to put stuff
The links provided exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks. j. == At 07:45 PM 12/21/01 -0900, you wrote: On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 17:18, Julian Opificius wrote: Now you did it ... answered a question, and set up another ;-) What is /usr/local used for? /usr/local is used for programs. It is privileged access but not usually on root's path though on the paths of users. If you download a tarball and do the ./configure make make install stuff, your binary will likely drop right onto /usr/local. The use of filesystems is standardized partially in a document called FHS 2.2 for Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. It is incorporated by reference in the Linux Standard base which we try to comply witrh. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ gives you links to several formats of the FHS 2.2 http://www.linuxbase.org/ is where you will find other standards applicable to Linux and links to the standardization efforts. You mught notice that one of the contributors is Mandrakesoft. Civileme P. S. Note when you study the standards that many things are defined for the use of local system administrators. Not every directory defined needs to be a separate mounted partition, and in fact separating any one of the following directories from the partition where / is mounted will result in an unbootable system /lib /bin /sbin /etc For all you folks out there, what is the reason this will happen? Think about it and I'll ask someone knowledgeable to provide the answer on Christmas. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] places to put stuff
Hey, thanks for the practical example, Michael. I'll have to do some digging into reiserfs to see what that's all about, and why I should use it. It's one of the journalling file systems, right? julian. At 12:15 AM 12/22/01 -0600, you wrote: At 05:07 PM 12/21/2001 -0900, you wrote: On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 16:37, Julian Opificius wrote: Thanks for the input, Civileme. Where would I put the public access directory? Under /home, say /home/public, or is there some other traditional place? If I do this, presumably I could put /home on a separate /dev/hda'n' partition, or, if Santa brings me the new 80G HD I asked for, make it /dev/hdb. Is this reasonable thinking? j. Yep, this is true. We have 3 separate drives in our server, which we set up: hda -- ext2 -- 6.4 GB IDE -- system disk (/usr,/, /var, /tmp) hdb -- reiserfs -- 20 GB IDE -- user data drive (/home) hdd -- reiserfs -- 20 GB IDE -- backup drive, iso downloads (/backup) Primary reason we went with reiserfs is because fsck's of 20 GB partitions take a while if the system crashes, and we typically have many very small files, as opposed to very few large ones. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat
Hi Ric, PS: Julian; You're good sport. You'll do OK with this stuff! :) Cheers Ric - you too :-) b.t.w. In the past hour or so I went back and reinstalled Mandrake 8.1. I was a lot more studious of options, and managed to get the installer accept the partitions I'd created in System Commander (a simple /boot, /, /swap setup for now) and things went OK. My just-updated System Commander 7 saw the install (mind you, I was previously at SC2000, which didn't). Only problem was that my CD-ROM drive refused to see my 2ns and 3rd CDs. I burned 'em myself, and Windows see's them. I think I've seen some mention of this before on the list, that sometimes the faster readers are a bit fussy of home-brew CD-Rs. Anyway, I'm now trying to get Samba to work. A Linux share I created was showing upon the Linux box for a while, but then it all went away. I'm really thinking it's Windows, because when I rebooted my RedHat install to cross-check, the shares from that install aren't working either! All I get when I try to access the Linux box in the browser is an invitation to put in a password for the IPC$ share! I'll keep poking at it ;-) j. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat
Well let's not get too flamin' high and mighty and make judgements about each others' intelligence, shall we? An installer that destroys partitions without adequate warning, ESPECIALLY in easy mode, shows indefensibly bad programming from people who assume to know better. Learning is a process punctuated by mistakes as well as successes. I shouldn't have to learn spells and incantations to be assured a safe passage through the unfriendly waters of new OS install, especially one that is trying to compete against the arrogance and poor quality we are accustomed to getting from Redmond. If you don't have any patience for us NEWBIES, then don't waste your precious time writing arrogant and spiteful retorts to those of us on this NEWBIE list who have, if not more knowledge and experience, then certainly a lot more humility and civility than you appear to have. Julian Opificius. At 02:39 PM 12/19/01 -0800, you wrote: Sounds to me like you just need to learn to run the installer. I'm sitting on a system right now that is multi-boot, with Win98, win2k, Linux, and Solaris, managed by System Comander. No problem. The Mandrake installer dropped the boot image on the first partition of the Mandrake installation just like I told it to do (in my case that's hdb1). If you take the lame road, and auto-install, then you take what you get. One might look at the expert install. It offers many more options. However, as the name would imply, it assumes that you know what you're doing. RTFM. It's full of magical spells incantations. With them, you can do most anything you want with Linux. If you don't want to take the time to learn, and do it right, . . Well, my sympathy level drops quickly. Ric David McGlone wrote: well same thing happened to me, I lost all my backed up data that was on 3 seperate ext2 partitions and 3 seperate partitions that I had windows installs on (mostly games) and I never told mandrakes partition tool to even touch them partitions. when I booted after my first install which I installed over a SuSE install I got a kernel panic, I wondered why such a thing happened, so I put the mandrake disk back in and when I got to the partitioning tool, it showed no partitions at all, they were all gone, it wiped out virtually everything except hda1. Well I proceeded to partition and finally install mandrake, I started to use it and it seemed to be a nice OS until the time came that I wanted to remove some rpm's and install different ones, and all I got was dependency problems left and right. I tried and tried every way I know, but it seems that when I wanted to remove 1 RPM from Mandrake, it wanted to remove the whole Operating System. At this point, I totally gave up, stuck my SuSE install Disk in and went back to SuSE. The way I see all this is, with Mandrake, you don't have much freedom. If I cannot remove an rpm and install the .tar file instead, then I think Mandrake is heading to Redmond. just my $.02 David M. AIM: dmclgone27 ICQ: 96210352 On Monday 17 December 2001 09:16 am, you wrote: Just to offer a contrasting and virtually worthless opinion here ... I'm not sure about the slicker install or souped up. I lost Windows installs on two of my machines (Win98 and Win2000) because Mandrake 8.1's installer trashed my partition tables without giving me a way out, so I went back to Red Hat 7.2 and had a much better install experience. I use System Commander 7 as a boot manager, but Mandrake's installer wouldn't support writing the boot code on the Linux boot partition for another boot manager to pick up, it absolutely insisted on writing it's boot block to the MBR, which is not polite, and more to the point, is not compatible with System Commander. I'll try Mandrake again this week, because many people have a very high opinion (I'm still subscribed to this list, obviously). If someone does know how to instruct Mandrake's installer to put it's boot block on /boot (folks seem to call this a superblock, apparently), please tell me - I'd really like to give Mandrake a run - but please don't tell me to trash System Commander: I've paid for it, I like it, and it's friendly to my family users, who don't want to have to learn anything else :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat
Dang it, why do I rise to the bait this ol' curmudgeon keeps tossing? ;-) At 06:46 PM 12/19/01 -0500, you wrote: On Wednesday 19 December 2001 18:07, you wrote: Well let's not get too flamin' high and mighty and make judgements about each others' intelligence, shall we? OK I agree, but why then did you do EXACTLY that? An installer that destroys partitions without adequate warning, ESPECIALLY in easy mode, shows indefensibly bad programming from people who assume to know better. Learning is a process punctuated by mistakes as well as successes. I didn't judge anyone's intelligence, I just grumbled about their sloppy output. I've written plenty of code in my years, just not on Linux. as you ASS-U-Me to know what others are thinking. I make no assumption, other than the one that the writers of the install routine had the intent to install Linux, not remove my existing OS. I believe that's a reasonable assumption. That is precisely why I (and I am apparently not alone) was disturbed by losing my partition table during the install process. We expect that arrogance (or at least lack of concern) from Redmond, we don't expect it from the Linux community. I shouldn't have to learn spells and incantations to be assured a safe passage through the unfriendly waters of new OS install, especially one that is trying to compete against the arrogance and poor quality we are accustomed to getting from Redmond. could it be that YOU are assuming AGAIN? I have looked and looked for the quote from Linus Torvaldes that says linux is for _competing_ with Redmond and Uncle Billy, and since it IS his kernel, I would expect him to be the one that could make that decision could it be that you are taking YOUR experiance, and imposing what you believe to have learned, and deciding (without assistance as far as I can tell) what the truth is? No, I'm not assuming AGAIN. Linus' intentions were not necessarily to compete to Redmond, but he gave Linux to the public domain, who have contributed more lines of code than he (as he intended). That challenge has been taken up by countless thousands, including you, from what I've seem come from your keyboard over the last month or so. The point is that I shouldn't need spells and incantations. (reminds me of the three blind men and the elephant, touching a part and deciding what kind of critter the elephant really is, you know one has the trunk and decides an elephant is like a snake, one has the leg and thinks an elephant is like a tree that moves, and one has the side and thinks an elephant is like a wall.) And the Linux newbie who thinks it's Ed Tharp ;- If you don't have any patience for us NEWBIES, then don't waste your precious time writing arrogant and spiteful retorts to those of us on this NEWBIE list who have, if not more knowledge and experience, then certainly a lot more humility and civility than you appear to have. one might honestly question your more humility and civility and after all _I_ am the most humble of all. grin Ha :-) You're a likeable old fellow - you may be curmudgeon, but you have a sense of humor. there are none so blind as he who will not see, nor none so deaf as he who will not hear So what are you saying, Ed? You and me should be the founder members of that club? You know, the one where our narrow waists and broad minds change places? damn did that guy say cast out the moat from thine own eye again? huh? That's the second time I've heard you use that one. Do you mean moat? or mote? or that the joke? Ed, I don't want a pie fight with you. My polite and humble request to you is simply to please be patient with newbies, that's all. We don't know it all, that's why we come here. Don't confuse lack of knowledge with stupidity, and don't lambast us for our lack of knowledge, or our naive but hopeful expectations . Your payment is the chuckles and grins you get when we line up and fall on our faces once in a while. Julian. = Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat
Jeez, what's with all this heavy artillery. I didn't say it was junk. I offered the installer wasn't well written. You came at me with guns a'blazin, Ric! I've been in this business a long time, and I don't appreciate judgemental crap about lame options, not R'ing TFM, etc. I actually do have a great deal of patience. I spend a lot of time helping folks, who demonstrate a desire to help themselves, and are trying to learn. I know you do. We all appreciate that. But don't be uncivil. Offering a less-than-shining opinion about a piece of code does not warrant personal attacks. Yes, Linux is an advanced operating system. It does require spending some time learning it. No experienced Linux user, or admin would say differently. And neither would I. We all have to start somewhere, and unfortunately the installer is that somewhere. To get the most out of Linux, and this list, spend some time educating yourself before proclaiming Mandrake to be junk because it won't install right, when the install error was yours. Nobody's proclaiming any such thing. If you'd stop being so blasted defensive on everyone else's behalf we'd get something done. The problem was this: I DID use the expert mode. I had created partitions using System Commander before starting the Mandrake install. After some minor adjustments in the installer I wrote the partition table and continued with the install. At some point I realized the installer was taking me somewhere I didn't want to go, but the cancel button wouldn't work, and I couldn't identify a backout strategy from the buttons on the dialog. Civelene's comment about expectations was probably right on the mark :- At the moment we are having more bad results from veteran installers than 12-year-olds who have never seen an installer before. So we are learning that there is a definite expectation induced by prior experience that may distort perceptions of users into assuming they see things they do not. Thank you, Civilene. I think you've got it in a nutshell. Let's all get back to helping each other out and not defending Linux - it doesn't need it. Julian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I've got a strange one
At 02:43 PM 12/20/01 +1100, Sridhar wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan In short, Microsoft is no more able to build secure products than England's cricket team is able to withstand the bowling of Australia's bowlers. -- John Leyden, MS firewall is holier than the Pope, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-08-20. Ouch! The deepest cut of all ! He's right, of course :-( = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install - CD-ROM not reading CD's 2 or 3
Trying to reinstall Mandrake 8.1. For some reason the CD ROM doesn't identify CDs 2 or 3. They are readable on my other computers under MS Windows. Any clues, anyone, please? Julian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat?
Will do Randy, thanks. I don't remember if I was in Expert when I did the install - though I'm not an expert, I'm certainly gutsy enough to have done so ;- One thing I distinctly remember is that there was no FUNCTIONAL Cancel button on most of the dialogs, which I saw as sloppiness, and it put me off trying again. julian. = At 12:06 PM 12/17/01 -0500, you wrote: Julian, I can't help you with the boot manager problem, but I do recommend you use exper mode if you install Mandrake again. Initially, I worried about whether I was expert enough to use it, but it really gives you a lot of flexibility that is not present in the other modes. One example is control over your partitioning -- some of the other install modes will overwrite your existing partitions with no warning -- in expert you can avoid that, and it seemed fairly self explanatory *to me*. (You can also abort the installation before making any partition changes -- just don't do the last step on the partitioning dialog (labeled done??), or say no to any prompts which say anything like the partition table will now be saved to disk, and, if you have to, reboot or shut your machine off.) hope this helps, Randy Kramer Julian Opificius wrote: Just to offer a contrasting and virtually worthless opinion here ... I'm not sure about the slicker install or souped up. I lost Windows installs on two of my machines (Win98 and Win2000) because Mandrake 8.1's installer trashed my partition tables without giving me a way out, so I went back to Red Hat 7.2 and had a much better install experience. I use System Commander 7 as a boot manager, but Mandrake's installer wouldn't support writing the boot code on the Linux boot partition for another boot manager to pick up, it absolutely insisted on writing it's boot block to the MBR, which is not polite, and more to the point, is not compatible with System Commander. I'll try Mandrake again this week, because many people have a very high opinion (I'm still subscribed to this list, obviously). If someone does know how to instruct Mandrake's installer to put it's boot block on /boot (folks seem to call this a superblock, apparently), please tell me - I'd really like to give Mandrake a run - but please don't tell me to trash System Commander: I've paid for it, I like it, and it's friendly to my family users, who don't want to have to learn anything else :-) Thanks all ! Julian == At 09:21 AM 12/17/01 -0600, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake come from RedHat? Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:20:17 -0600 From: David McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] being an X-red hat user, I think Mandrake still runs and feels like Red Hat. It still handles like RH, it still uses a lot of files RH does and the convention RH does. to me it's clearly a souped up RH version with a different name. David M. On Monday 17 December 2001 07:02 am, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:06:00 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Mandrake was once loosely based on the RedHat distro...it is no longer the case. Mandrake is clearly Mandrake.-- daRcmaTTeR I think at one time Mandrake was more than loosely based on RH. Back in the 5.x days, I believe it was virtually RH w/ a slicker install and KDE 1.x as a default desktop. You are quite correct that it is now a fully independent (with some similarities, and still rpm based) distro all it's own. Mike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
Um, thanks for the rant ... 1) I'm not badmouthing Linux, Samba, or anyone, Mr Sanchez. My comparison of KISS vs the rope was a recognition of the power of Linux, while acknowledging that it requires skill. The last letter of KISS stands for Stupid. The point is, as you eloquently pointed out, that MS and Linux people often think differently. As I said in my original post - it's not wrong, just different. I am NOT criticizing Linux or Samba. 2) I'm not exhibiting two-dimensional thinking, and I can assure you that neither Microsoft nor their metaphors have me by the throat or any other part of my mind, body, or soul. 3) I believe %m is a macro which expands to the Netbios name for the client machine, not the current user name. I suspect you meant to propose the use of %U (session user name), or %u (user name of the current service, if any) . 4) No I don't have specific user shares such as [bill] [mary] and [mark] as you've exemplified below. The [homes] section in my smb.conf does that job for me perfectly. I thank you for your consideration of this issue, but I don't think you understand what I was asking for. I don't want the CREATION or MAPPING of a share to be user/group DERIVED. I want it's BROWSEABILITY to be CONDITIONAL on user/group membership. I'm trying to achieve the equivalence of the following:- browseable = the boolean truth of the current user is in the following list of users, or is a member of one or more of the following list of groups Here's a (hopefully) humorous contrived example of what I'd like to be able to put in smb.conf:- [smutty_pics] path = /usr/pics public = no browse list = @engineering @field_sales @it_guys fred george valid users = @engineering @field_sales @it_guys fred george write list = @it_guys fred george printable = no Note that browse list is not legal, but if it was, it would be exactly what I want. Clearly in the above example, it isn't enough just to make the browse inaccessible to the ladies in Accounting, it would be better if the share was not visible at all. I stress that the above is fictitious, but I think it exemplifies what I want. My actual requirement is simply to make various directories VISIBLE to my wife and I, but INVISIBLE to our kids, while NOT having to put it all into user directory trees. Thank you for your help. Julian Opificius. = At 04:54 AM 12/15/01 -0500, you wrote: - SEEING THE LIGHT with Samba - -- Snip --- I thought of it as a duh, an obvious feature, and that I was overlooking the obvious, but apparently not. The more I think about it, it demonstrates the philosophical difference between Microsoft (the KISS principle) and Unix (the long rope - you either do rope tricks or hang yourself). The idea of iding unavailable shares for the sake of simplicity probably wouldn't occur to a Unix/Linux programmer. Not that it's wrong, just different. --- Snip --- Just like browseable = no, right? No, I want the share to show up or not show up as a function of it's accessibility by the current login - i.e. login-dependant, rather than definition-dependant. -- Snip --- Ouch. You're effectively badmouthing Linux and Samba in the same breath. The problem is as Mr. Spock put it; you are exhibiting two-dimensional thinking. The Microsoft metaphors have you firmly by the throat! Samba does indeed keep it simple with the added advantage of incredible flexibility. This same flexibility is hiding the rather obvious from you, namely you are looking at shares (as defined by the [sharename] headers) in the wrong light. The solution is plainly documented, but often overlooked as a result... So here is ONE way of doing what you want easily... You probably have smb.conf share headers already defined in the file... Such as [Bill] Path = /home/bill public = no valid users = bill [Mary] Path = /home/mary public = no valid users = mary [Mark] Path = /home/mark public = no valid users = mark What you've done is effectively defined things which YOU WANT advertised by Samba discreetly... -WRONG-! Instead what you want is [home] path = /home/%m public = no writeable = yes valid users = bill mark mary @validgroup BTW: Samba will create the directories for you automatically as the users attach, if they don't exist. BTW: The @validgroup definition is another way to define valid users... That's it! Huh? (I hear the scratching of the head from here...) Yes the %m is a Samba on the fly substitution macro, which gets replaced when the user attempts to attach to the share... So when Mark attaches to the \\SAMBABOX\HOME share he only sees /home/mark Likewise when Mary attaches to it, she only sees /home/mary. Etc. Samba provides MANY easy ways to skin the cat. Microsoft provides one. Don't mistake Microsoft's restrictions for EASE OF USE. Your
RE: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
Thanks very much for taking the trouble to write, Dave. Yes, I understand what [homes] does, and I am using it for private directory structures. The problems with [homes] are that :- 1) It defines a directory mapping (and browse visibility) on a user basis, not a group basis, and gives the share the name of that particular user, and 2) There can only be one of them, requiring that everything I want to control must go under that private tree, and therefore everything under that user tree is private, whether I like it or not, unless I create a spiderweb of new mounts or links into various parts of that tree. That is difficult to document and manage. The problem is that I don't want a single directory tree with my name on it just visible to me, or any other single person. I want a series of shares VISIBLE to a GROUP of people, but INVISIBLE to people outside that group. If there was a group equivalent of [homes] it would be something. If I could use a psuedo C statement like browseable = ((%u == fred) | (%u == jim) | (%g == @engineering)); that would work, Or, if there was a browse list like there is a write list, then I could do this :- [stuff_for_grownups_only] path = /usr/adult_stuff read list = @parents write list = @parents browse list = @parents Anybody in the group parents can see and access the share, while anyone not in the group can't even see it, let alone access it. I've investigated [homes], %u, %m, read list, and chmod. None of these do what I need. All these tools work on the issue of accessibility. My issue is visibilibty, not accessibility. To reiterate one more time ... I want to make a SERIES of individual shares with their own USER_INDEPENDANT names VISIBLE browseable (or not) as a function of the identity or group membership of whoever is logged on. I don't want to map a SINGLE directory tree available with the name of the particular user. I don't want shares to be visible but not accessible. See ? Many thanks again :-) julian. === At 07:35 AM 12/15/01 -0600, you wrote: I finally hit upon a similar idea this morning. The generic [Homes] share, as defined by Samba, is created on the fly for each particular user when they login, and is only visible to that user. It automatically maps to the user's Linux account and home directory. Thus, when I login on my laptop to my home network, I can see two shares on my Linux Samba server: a Public share for me and my wife, and a Dave share that is my home directory. My wife Carrie will never see the Dave share (unless she logs in as me), and I will never see the Carrie share (unless I log in as her). Since the Dave share is my own home directory, I can create subdirectories, etc. and have them all private for myself. Likewise for Carrie. If I want to make a file or directory public to everyone, I can just copy or move it to the Public share, and then delete it or move it back to my home (Dave) share when I want it to become private again. Here's my [Homes] definition smb.conf from my server: [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes guest ok = no Notice that I do not need to define a path. Samba knows that the share definition [Homes] is supposed to point to /home/username, where username is the Windows (and Linux) login user name. All I need to do is create a Linux user account that matches each Windows user account (name and password), and then each Windows user will have a home share that is private. Also notice that I do not need to list valid users. Again, this is because Samba automatically knows that the only valid user for a particular home share is the one user to whom the home directory belongs. Dave On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 03:54, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: The solution is plainly documented, but often overlooked as a result... So here is ONE way of doing what you want easily... You probably have smb.conf share headers already defined in the file... Such as [Bill] Path = /home/bill public = no valid users = bill [Mary] Path = /home/mary public = no valid users = mary [Mark] Path = /home/mark public = no valid users = mark What you've done is effectively defined things which YOU WANT advertised by Samba discreetly... -WRONG-! Instead what you want is [home] path = /home/%m public = no writeable = yes valid users = bill mark mary @validgroup BTW: Samba will create the directories for you automatically as the users attach, if they don't exist. BTW: The @validgroup definition is another way to define valid users... That's it! Huh? (I hear the scratching of the head from here...) Yes the %m is a Samba on the fly substitution macro, which gets replaced when the user attempts to attach to the share... So when Mark attaches to the \\SAMBABOX\HOME share he
[newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
With dexterous use of chmod and the smbpasswd file I can control access to various shares, but how do I prevent shares from even appearing for logins who are not permitted to access them? I'd rather those shares not even appear, so as to provide a simplified interface to some users (i.e. my kids). Thanks in advance. Julian Opificius. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
Thanks for the response Dexter. No, what I'm looking for is to have shares simply not show up in the network directory listing if the current user is not authorized to access them. I thought of it as a duh, an obvious feature, and that I was overlooking the obvious, but apparently not. The more I think about it, it demonstrates the philosophical difference between Microsoft (the KISS principle) and Unix (the long rope - you either do rope tricks or hang yourself). The idea of iding unavailable shares for the sake of simplicity probably wouldn't occur to a Unix/Linux programmer. Not that it's wrong, just different. Thanks again. Julian. = At 09:11 AM 12/14/01 -0700, you wrote: Hello: Have you tried the veto files command? I have not used it, but the book I have has a description for it, which you might find helpful: veto files: Contains a list of file and directory names that are marked by Samba as not visible and cannot be accessed by users. Entires in the list are separated by the / character, and the ? and * wildcard characters can be used. For example, to veto access to Windows executables files on a file share use veto files = /*.exe/*.com/*.bat/. If the case-sensitive parameter is false, Samba will veto files regard to case. Hopefully, this command can help you solve your problem. Good luck... Dexter On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Julian Opificius wrote: I've pored over man on the Samba web-site, and yes, you remember correctly ;-) It's true that though browseable = no hides a share from everyone, you can still map to it, but then how does one know it's there? That's cryptic and unreasonably clumsy for non-expert users (which includes me), who have other things to remember, like where we've put the car keys. Seems like it's all or nothing, which is not really very clever at all. What we need is a hide unavailable shares = true/false switch for smb.conf or something like that. Thanks for the response, Dave. Any Samba programmers out there listening, or other wizards? Julian. At 07:56 AM 12/14/01 -0600, Dave Sherman replied: On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 22:14, Julian Opificius wrote: With dexterous use of chmod and the smbpasswd file I can control access to various shares, but how do I prevent shares from even appearing for logins who are not permitted to access them? I'd rather those shares not even appear, so as to provide a simplified interface to some users (i.e. my kids). If I remember correctly, under a share definition just add: browseable = no This will make it invisible, but you can still map a network drive to it. However, this makes it invisible to everyone, not just selected users. I would seggest 'man smb.conf' for further information. Dave = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
Just like browseable = no, right? No, I want the share to show up or not show up as a function of it's accessibility by the current login - i.e. login-dependant, rather than definition-dependant. Thanks all the same. Julian. === At 11:55 AM 12/14/01 -0600, you wrote: This probabally isn't what you want, but if you end a SMB share name with a '$' it will not show up in browse lists but will still be accessable (assuming you have rights to the share and the underlying files of course.) -Original Message- From: Julian Opificius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:44:01 -0600 Subject: Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible Thanks for the response Dexter. No, what I'm looking for is to have shares simply not show up in the network directory listing if the current user is not authorized to access them. I thought of it as a duh, an obvious feature, and that I was overlooking the obvious, but apparently not. The more I think about it, it demonstrates the philosophical difference between Microsoft (the KISS principle) and Unix (the long rope - you either do rope tricks or hang yourself). The idea of iding unavailable shares for the sake of simplicity probably wouldn't occur to a Unix/Linux programmer. Not that it's wrong, just different. Thanks again. Julian. = At 09:11 AM 12/14/01 -0700, you wrote: Hello: Have you tried the veto files command? I have not used it, but the book I have has a description for it, which you might find helpful: veto files: Contains a list of file and directory names that are marked by Samba as not visible and cannot be accessed by users. Entires in the list are separated by the / character, and the ? and * wildcard characters can be used. For example, to veto access to Windows executables files on a file share use veto files = /*.exe/*.com/*.bat/. If the case-sensitive parameter is false, Samba will veto files regard to case. Hopefully, this command can help you solve your problem. Good luck... Dexter On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Julian Opificius wrote: I've pored over man on the Samba web-site, and yes, you remember correctly ;-) It's true that though browseable = no hides a share from everyone, you can still map to it, but then how does one know it's there? That's cryptic and unreasonably clumsy for non-expert users (which includes me), who have other things to remember, like where we've put the car keys. Seems like it's all or nothing, which is not really very clever at all. What we need is a hide unavailable shares = true/false switch for smb.conf or something like that. Thanks for the response, Dave. Any Samba programmers out there listening, or other wizards? Julian. At 07:56 AM 12/14/01 -0600, Dave Sherman replied: On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 22:14, Julian Opificius wrote: With dexterous use of chmod and the smbpasswd file I can control access to various shares, but how do I prevent shares from even appearing for logins who are not permitted to access them? I'd rather those shares not even appear, so as to provide a simplified interface to some users (i.e. my kids). If I remember correctly, under a share definition just add: browseable = no This will make it invisible, but you can still map a network drive to it. However, this makes it invisible to everyone, not just selected users. I would seggest 'man smb.conf' for further information. Dave = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
Hi again Dexter, thanks for giving this so much thought :-) I'm afraid your suggestion does not give me what I want. I don't want to limit access to files in the share, I want the whole share to not appear at all for those logins who don't have access to it. Here's an example, which should make it more obvious. Suppose I have a share called [letters_from_girlfriends] (I don't, but for the example, say I do). It isn't enough just to have my wife not to have access to it, I'd rather she didn't even see the share name at all. Got it? I could do this:- valid users = @parents browseable = @parents it would work. The browseable flag would be a function of the current login. Unfortunately, browseable is a boolean, and doesn't take a user or group name as an argument, and therefore is either always true or always false, irrespective of who is logged in. julian. At 08:02 PM 12/14/01 -0700, you wrote: Hello me again: How about this If I understand you correctly, you are going to have multiple people use samba to access your linux box and you want to limit the availability of the files in the share depending on who is logging in. Well, what if you set up multiple accounts in your linbox and limit access accordingly. For example, let's say you have usera and userb. Set up two additional accounts in your linbox with the respective usernames and passwords. Could you not then set up usera to browseable yes and userb to browseable no (or use veto files for that matter)? You could set the same path for both users, but limit them with the browseable option. If I am not mistaken, it would also require to set up multiple accounts in your winbox, if you only have one winbox networked to your linbox. Did I make sense? Hope it helps... Regards, Dexter On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Julian Opificius wrote: Just like browseable = no, right? No, I want the share to show up or not show up as a function of it's accessibility by the current login - i.e. login-dependant, rather than definition-dependant. Thanks all the same. Julian. === At 11:55 AM 12/14/01 -0600, you wrote: This probabally isn't what you want, but if you end a SMB share name with a '$' it will not show up in browse lists but will still be accessable (assuming you have rights to the share and the underlying files of course.) -Original Message- From: Julian Opificius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:44:01 -0600 Subject: Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible Thanks for the response Dexter. No, what I'm looking for is to have shares simply not show up in the network directory listing if the current user is not authorized to access them. I thought of it as a duh, an obvious feature, and that I was overlooking the obvious, but apparently not. The more I think about it, it demonstrates the philosophical difference between Microsoft (the KISS principle) and Unix (the long rope - you either do rope tricks or hang yourself). The idea of iding unavailable shares for the sake of simplicity probably wouldn't occur to a Unix/Linux programmer. Not that it's wrong, just different. Thanks again. Julian. = At 09:11 AM 12/14/01 -0700, you wrote: Hello: Have you tried the veto files command? I have not used it, but the book I have has a description for it, which you might find helpful: veto files: Contains a list of file and directory names that are marked by Samba as not visible and cannot be accessed by users. Entires in the list are separated by the / character, and the ? and * wildcard characters can be used. For example, to veto access to Windows executables files on a file share use veto files = /*.exe/*.com/*.bat/. If the case-sensitive parameter is false, Samba will veto files regard to case. Hopefully, this command can help you solve your problem. Good luck... Dexter On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Julian Opificius wrote: I've pored over man on the Samba web-site, and yes, you remember correctly ;-) It's true that though browseable = no hides a share from everyone, you can still map to it, but then how does one know it's there? That's cryptic and unreasonably clumsy for non-expert users (which includes me), who have other things to remember, like where we've put the car keys. Seems like it's all or nothing, which is not really very clever at all. What we need is a hide unavailable shares = true/false switch for smb.conf or something like that. Thanks for the response, Dave. Any Samba programmers out there listening, or other wizards? Julian. At 07:56 AM 12/14/01 -0600, Dave Sherman replied: On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 22:14, Julian Opificius wrote: With dexterous use of chmod
Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
Mark, The first thing is that you say that you're trying to get the Windows box to see the Linux box. The next thing is you talk about running smbclient, which is used for accessing the Windows box from the Linux box, so I'm a little confused. The smbclient log message? I'm guessing it's telling you that the computer called ALEXHOME is not presenting Samba shares, though it probably exists. If you attempt to access a computer that doesn't exist, smbclient says connection to bad computer name failed, so I'm guessing that ALEXHOME exists, but isn't talking Samba. Is ALEXHOME the Linux box or the Windows box, and which way are you trying to connect? Julian. At 11:05 PM 12/14/01 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:55:41 -0600 Julian Opificius [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Hi there, i've got a question about something. I've been following this thread and gleening some info from it. I've got the samba server running on my Linux machine and i'm trying to get my windows box to see the Mandrake box, but i'm not having any luck. here's what gets returned from this command: command -- smbclient -L ALEXHOME -U mdw1982 [root@mdw1982 root]# smbclient -L ALEXHOME -U mdw1982 added interface ip=192.168.0.1 bcast=192.168.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 session request to ALEXHOME failed (Called name not present) session request to *SMBSERVER failed (Called name not present) - and here's what i'm finding in /var/log/samba/log.nmbd -- [2001/12/14 22:48:04, 0] nmbd/nmbd_mynames.c:my_name_register_failed(41) my_name_register_failed: Failed to register my name ALEXHOME00 on subnet 192.168.0.1. [2001/12/14 22:48:04, 0] nmbd/nmbd_namelistdb.c:standard_fail_register(292) standard_fail_register: Failed to register/refresh name ALEXHOME00 on subnet 192.168.0.1 --- what in the world is it trying to tell me? I'm stumped. -- daRcmaTTeR Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 10:05pm up 5 days, 0 min, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.39, 0.37 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot with Windows 95 LM 8.1
I too am a System Commander fan, (have been for years) and tried to use it to boot Mandrake 8.1 along with Win98 and Win2000. I had the MS OSs loaded first, however, and tried to load Mandrake afterwards. The results were disastrous: I lost both MS installations as Mandrakes's installer insisted on destroying the partition table. Ironically, SC has been so reliable for me in the past that I'm not familiar with the recovery tools, and was unable to recover. The other challenge is that with System Commander one needs to set up the Linux boot record in a superblock on the /boot partition, but the Mandrake installer insisted on installing LILO or GRUB and stuffing the boot block into the hda MBR, which is a bad thing. The 8.1 installer is really badly broken. I confess I have neither the expertise nor the time to navigated around those problems, and went back to the latest version of Red Hat, whose installer is not mindlessly bent on destroying all other OSs on the disk. Red Hat and System Commander work well together. For you, Marcia, I suspect that SC will happily do the job, transferring the LILO or GRUB MBR record into it's own data structure. You must of course have space for another FAT or FAT32 primary partition (which Win98 and SC both need). I'd recommend you upgrade to SC7 if you haven't already - there are improved partition-wrangling features you'll like, plus a slightly nicer GUI, if you care about such things. If someone can help Marcia and I out on these issues we'd both be most grateful. julian. = At 05:10 AM 12/7/01 -0500, you wrote: Dear All, I am considering either going with vmware in Linux or doing a dual boot with Win95 and LM 8.1. I know that everyone says to always install Windows first, however may I install it now somehow without erasing my Linux 8.1 if I use the great partition tool System Commander? Thanks for the help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 2 Pointing Devices - How?
Anyone know how to get a mouse and tablet working simultaneously? How about tablet and USB mouse? Regards Julian
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[newbie] USB to Serial Mouse
Dear All I have installed Mandrake 7.0 with a manually applied 7.02 patch. Unfortunately I called for a USB mouse which doesn't appear to work. How on earth do I change it back so a serial mouse without using a mouse? I need command line option for this but don't know them. Regards Julian
Re: [newbie] telnet
You need to set it up from Rpm's. Mandrake doesn't install telnet daemon and any other things in a normal installation. Bye, Julian *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/4/00 at 8:52 AM Agi Subagio wrote: How to activate telnet daemon in Linux Mandrake 6.1? Regards, agi
Re: [newbie] Config Problems
There's a module that you can load for your genius ethernet card. /lib/modules/2.2.13-7mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o I have a 2500II Genius pci card and it works fine. I Hope this module work for you too. Bye *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/5/00 at 9:34 AM root wrote: Recently my NT server which contained the gateway for my network connection to cable modem died. I am attempting to set up a Mandrake 7.0 (Air) box to act as a firewall and router. The computer in question is an HP Pavilion 200 mmx Pentium with 32 MB of ram and a 4+gb drive. The connection to the Cable Modem is a 3c509b (eth0) and the network card for my internal network is a Genius GE2500III (windows and another redhat box use the realtek 8129 drivers) (eth1). Both ethx cards fail during startup, I can do an insmod on the 3c509 driver and get it running as eth0, but I cannot get the eth1 card up at all. Lothar shows only 1 card and calls it a realtek 8029 and says that it is running, the 3c509 is not shown. I have attempted to compile a fresh kernel in hopes of getting both cards to work, but have been unable, even though I have loaded all the development modules. when i go to "/usr/src/linux" and do a "make xconfig, or make menuconfig" I get a message saying "make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop" I had planned to use this computer as a firewall and network server, but I am dead in the water until I can solve the ehternet modules problem. Any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance -- James Mellema, CRNA MA -- Linux User 71650
[newbie] Install on Fat32
Dear All, As a linux newbie who's downloaded Corel Linux and am still in the process of downloading the enormous Mandrake imagae, I need to find out if I can install from cd onto a directory in my single Fat32 parititon (I know my Fastrack Raid controller won't work). Corel's install won't do this and I am somewhat releuctant to use Partition Magic to alter what is a working system to provide a boot manager and linux partition. Info on how to manually install is somewhat confusing expecially when I've D/Ld the iso cdrom images. Thanks in advance Julian
[newbie] Install on Fat32 repeat
Dear All, As a linux newbie who's downloaded Corel Linux and am still in the process of downloading the enormous Mandrake image, I need to find out if I can install from cd onto a directory in my single Fat32 parititon (I know my Fastrack Raid controller won't work). Corel's install won't do this and I am somewhat releuctant to use Partition Magic to alter what is a working system to provide a boot manager and linux partition. Info on how to manually install is somewhat confusing expecially when I've D/Ld the iso cdrom images. Thanks in advance Julian
[newbie] Trouble Installing 6.0
I am having trouble installing Mandrake on a laptop. It doesn't have a CD-ROM drive so I have to use FTP or NFS to mount the CD on one of my other computers that does have a CD-ROM drive. Some Background: I downloaded the ISO file from a mandrake FTP mirror and used Adaptec Easy CD-Creator to burn the CD. I then mounted the CD on a NT Server running a FTP server, but all of the files are displayed using the 8.3 format. When the laptop connects to the FTP server, it can't find any of the Packages to install the system. I also have a NFS service running on the machine but I haven't been able to figure out how to mount the cd with it. It doesn't really matter since the file system is limited by the 8.3 format. Next I turned to my Redhat 6.0 server to see if there was a problem with the CD. I mounted the CD on that machine and then looked at the files. They show up in the correct format so the CD is ok. I decided to set up either NFS or FTP on the machine to give me access to the CD. I looked and the NFS man pages weren't much help. I even tried to set up the NFS using linuxconf but that doesn't work. I looked for the ftpd man pages but couldn't find it. Now the Request: Can someone help me through setting up the NFS or FTPd on my RH machine so that I can access the CD through the network on my laptop. I would prefer the NFS method as anything I learn using this method will allow me to share other directories with other computers on my network. Thanks in advance for any help.
