Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Saturday 05 February 2005 07:59 pm, Deep Thinker wrote: snip Yep. I ended up having to take the thing apart. Talk about a pain in the @55! I have one very small screw and one somewhat small screw in the top drawer of my desk. No idea where they are/were supposed to go, but I can get on my new machine running win98SE. Don't worry about those extra bits; they're totally superfluous. Contrary to what you may think, the number, size and position of mounting screws is not the result of careful analysis and experimentation, but rather involves a series of random choices, the only constraints being design must appear to be plausible to a casual observer, i.e. supervisory personnel. The same principle can be found in automobiles. I once had a 1955 Plymouth that lost about 2 or 3 pounds per year as excess parts were gradually removed, and it didn't run any worse when I sold it than when I bought it. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:10:58 +1100, András Keszei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 14:11, Deep Thinker wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:57:38 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. Also, most laptop hard drives offer a feature of setting a password on the drive itself. I figured as much. That is why, if at all possible, I would much rather not have to take the machine apart. The BIOS is a PhoenixBIOS but I am not sure which version. Searching online I found several sites that tell me about 'backdoor' passwords to bypass this. The only one I found for Phoenix is 'phoenix'. Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks for everyones suggestion. What I found involves taking the thing apart. At the link below, you'll find detailed info on that too. Hope it helps. http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/ponpass.html cheers Andras -- Linux User #245991 Yep. I ended up having to take the thing apart. Talk about a pain in the @55! I have one very small screw and one somewhat small screw in the top drawer of my desk. No idea where they are/were supposed to go, but I can get on my new machine running win98SE. Turns out to be an AMD K6/2 233MHz machine with 128 MB RAM and a whopping 4GB Hard Drive. Anyone care to take a guess as to what my next post will be? (HINT: Does anyone know what use this machine could possibly have ?) -- d33p th1nk3r Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
Hello All, I have a friend that has given me several older machines because she no longer needs them. For one reason or another these machines will not work. Either bad hard drives or cracked screens or whatever. The one machine she gave me that may be of some use is a Compaq Presario 1275. In her words ... My husband used that computer for business. He put a password on it so if anyone stole it they would be able to use it. I think he put a password on it so I couldn't see the emails he was writing to his little hussy girlfriends he had on the side. I didn't need a computer to tell me he was cheating on me. TMI, but I got a free computer out of it. Seems she got that along with the house and other things in the divorce. Long story short, the machine still has the CMOS or BIOS password on it. I plan to make it a simple workstation to learn and play on (of course installing Mandrake on it). How do I get in? -- d33p th1nk3r Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
Deep Thinker wrote: Hello All, I have a friend that has given me several older machines because she no longer needs them. For one reason or another these machines will not work. Either bad hard drives or cracked screens or whatever. The one machine she gave me that may be of some use is a Compaq Presario 1275. In her words ... My husband used that computer for business. He put a password on it so if anyone stole it they would be able to use it. I think he put a password on it so I couldn't see the emails he was writing to his little hussy girlfriends he had on the side. I didn't need a computer to tell me he was cheating on me. TMI, but I got a free computer out of it. Seems she got that along with the house and other things in the divorce. Long story short, the machine still has the CMOS or BIOS password on it. I plan to make it a simple workstation to learn and play on (of course installing Mandrake on it). How do I get in? If it is a BIOS password, they can be cleared a couple of ways. Your best bet is to go to the Compaq web site, and download the hardware manual for the machine, and find the section on clearing the BIOS password. You will probably have to partially disasemble it, and move a jumper or jumper two pins for a few seconds to clear it. This will also reset the BIOS to factory defaults. (There are programs to clear the BIOS password, but they are not much help if you need a password to boot...) You may also have a hard drive password. The only way I have found to clear those is to reformat the drive... Not a big deal if you are going to install a new OS anyway. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 06:19 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Deep Thinker wrote: Hello All, I have a friend that has given me several older machines because she no longer needs them. For one reason or another these machines will not work. Either bad hard drives or cracked screens or whatever. The one machine she gave me that may be of some use is a Compaq Presario 1275. In her words ... My husband used that computer for business. He put a password on it so if anyone stole it they would be able to use it. I think he put a password on it so I couldn't see the emails he was writing to his little hussy girlfriends he had on the side. I didn't need a computer to tell me he was cheating on me. TMI, but I got a free computer out of it. Seems she got that along with the house and other things in the divorce. Long story short, the machine still has the CMOS or BIOS password on it. I plan to make it a simple workstation to learn and play on (of course installing Mandrake on it). How do I get in? If it is a BIOS password, they can be cleared a couple of ways. Your best bet is to go to the Compaq web site, and download the hardware manual for the machine, and find the section on clearing the BIOS password. You will probably have to partially disasemble it, and move a jumper or jumper two pins for a few seconds to clear it. This will also reset the BIOS to factory defaults. (There are programs to clear the BIOS password, but they are not much help if you need a password to boot...) You may also have a hard drive password. The only way I have found to clear those is to reformat the drive... Not a big deal if you are going to install a new OS anyway. Mikkel you can always remove the cmos battery and any other powersupply (not necessarily in that order) and clear the bios password, boot with knoptix and see what pOrn is on the hard drive I did not suggest that anyone ever do that with someone else's computer -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
et wrote: On Wednesday 19 January 2005 06:19 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Deep Thinker wrote: Hello All, I have a friend that has given me several older machines because she no longer needs them. For one reason or another these machines will not work. Either bad hard drives or cracked screens or whatever. The one machine she gave me that may be of some use is a Compaq Presario 1275. In her words ... My husband used that computer for business. He put a password on it so if anyone stole it they would be able to use it. I think he put a password on it so I couldn't see the emails he was writing to his little hussy girlfriends he had on the side. I didn't need a computer to tell me he was cheating on me. TMI, but I got a free computer out of it. Seems she got that along with the house and other things in the divorce. Long story short, the machine still has the CMOS or BIOS password on it. I plan to make it a simple workstation to learn and play on (of course installing Mandrake on it). How do I get in? If it is a BIOS password, they can be cleared a couple of ways. Your best bet is to go to the Compaq web site, and download the hardware manual for the machine, and find the section on clearing the BIOS password. You will probably have to partially disasemble it, and move a jumper or jumper two pins for a few seconds to clear it. This will also reset the BIOS to factory defaults. (There are programs to clear the BIOS password, but they are not much help if you need a password to boot...) You may also have a hard drive password. The only way I have found to clear those is to reformat the drive... Not a big deal if you are going to install a new OS anyway. Mikkel you can always remove the cmos battery and any other powersupply (not necessarily in that order) and clear the bios password, boot with knoptix and see what pOrn is on the hard drive I did not suggest that anyone ever do that with someone else's computer Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. Also, most laptop hard drives offer a feature of setting a password on the drive itself. So even removing the drive from the laptop, and putting it in another machine, will not get around the password. It can make things interesting if you forget to remove the password before removing the drive from the laptop, and then try using it in one of the USB drive interfaces for 2-1/2 drives... Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 10:57, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. That's why we have hammers. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:02:33 +1100 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. That's why we have hammers. Now, would the proper technique be to *hammer* the MoBo til the CMOS battery *falls* out, or use the *claw* to *rip* the battery out? -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:39:12 up 17 days, 8:18, 6 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.01 +++ Rule $19.99 (Brad `Squid' Shapcott): The Internet *isn't* *free*. It just has an economy that makes no sense to capitalism. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 11:42, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:02:33 +1100 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. That's why we have hammers. Now, would the proper technique be to *hammer* the MoBo til the CMOS battery *falls* out, or use the *claw* to *rip* the battery out? Whichever is the fastest course, Joe. C'mon. Use LOGIC, mate. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- I am a deeply superficial person. -- Andy Warhol Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:46:18 +1100 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. That's why we have hammers. Now, would the proper technique be to *hammer* the MoBo til the CMOS battery *falls* out, or use the *claw* to *rip* the battery out? Whichever is the fastest course, Joe. C'mon. Use LOGIC, mate. Well, I thought you might have some anecdotal experience which might save me the experimentation in that regard... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:49:46 up 17 days, 8:28, 6 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00 +++ Where the state begins, individual liberty ceases, and vice versa. -- Bakunin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:57:38 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. Also, most laptop hard drives offer a feature of setting a password on the drive itself. I figured as much. That is why, if at all possible, I would much rather not have to take the machine apart. The BIOS is a PhoenixBIOS but I am not sure which version. Searching online I found several sites that tell me about 'backdoor' passwords to bypass this. The only one I found for Phoenix is 'phoenix'. Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks for everyones suggestion. -- d33p th1nk3r Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 14:11, Deep Thinker wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:57:38 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops. Also, most laptop hard drives offer a feature of setting a password on the drive itself. I figured as much. That is why, if at all possible, I would much rather not have to take the machine apart. The BIOS is a PhoenixBIOS but I am not sure which version. Searching online I found several sites that tell me about 'backdoor' passwords to bypass this. The only one I found for Phoenix is 'phoenix'. Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks for everyones suggestion. What I found involves taking the thing apart. At the link below, you'll find detailed info on that too. Hope it helps. http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/ponpass.html cheers Andras -- Linux User #245991 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote: On Sunday 15 February 2004 10:08 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 14 February 2004 11:15 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I will want to be looking to construct afresh. Whats your thinking about 64 bit architecture. I read recently AMD have a chip that runs both 32 and 64bit though I don't know what mobos will suit. Will Mandrake keep up with this developement ? Will anyone be shipping OS's for 64 bit by this time next year? There's already 64bit OS's includin Mandrake. You'll need somebody else to comment tho. I'm not interested in 64bit at this time. I think until there's a preponderance of software ported to 64bit, you're better off with 32bit hardware. I just don't have enough time to do the searching for equipement and such like, tend to leave that to others, and take advice, I'm afraid you'll need to do some of your own research. As I said before, to settle on a board that fits your requirements. As Charles' reply to this thread points out, 3d/acell for KT600 chipsets is a Linux (kernel) problem. Doesn't affect me cause I avoid closed source proprietary drivers. Actually there's a whole lot'a hardware that's goin to be a problem for a while with 2.6.x kernels and closed source drivers and software. Do you really actually gain anything with 64 bit? 32 bit is fast, and 64 bit can claim to be faster, but you're still executing larger instructions. It may be doing it faster, but the instruction is still larger, so is their actually a noticeable speed increase? I doubt most people who are running off to buy these have any clue what the hell they are talking about lol. This being faster is just like using the analogy for a road. The speed limit may be 64, but how many lanes does it have? Remember, a road with a smaller speed limit but more lanes will out perform as long as the speed limit isn't a LOT lower ;) Well, I would say it's a case of both, the number of lanes and the speed at which the traffic is allowed to proceed safely allong it's way. So 64bit architecture and FSB surely are a trade off one against the other. I hear talk in the press that heavy traffic servers are going 64bit now, so I guess they already know about it's virtues. I'm mainly a desktop user with heavy use video/graphical hopes and ambitions. So anything that helps to make that better is of prime consideration to me. However, if, as I am not, I were merely an emailer come letter writer sort of desktop user then 64 bit is hardly worth the candle, I should of thought. So from my point of view and other such users like me, the immediate to medium term outlook, I would want 64bit architecture. What interested me about the article I read was that this AMD processor was said to work both in 32bit as well as 64bit architecture, which means, as is inevitably going to be the case, we can run OS's designed, some for 32 bit and some for 64 bit on the same harddrive. No ? Since I don't mind dual booting at all, this has attractions for my hopes and ambitions. I imagine that we will need faster hardrives to match all this ? If that is the case then I'm going to have to think hard about mobo/cpu/hardrive and possibly memory as one upgrade package, reusing things like monitors/dvd/cdrwiters/adrives/smartcardreaders etc, etc. So , to my mind it's going to come, and yes, Ithink it has advantages, but maybe not everyone will want it, at least not immediately. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Saturday 14 February 2004 11:15 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I will want to be looking to construct afresh. Whats your thinking about 64 bit architecture. I read recently AMD have a chip that runs both 32 and 64bit though I don't know what mobos will suit. Will Mandrake keep up with this developement ? Will anyone be shipping OS's for 64 bit by this time next year? There's already 64bit OS's includin Mandrake. You'll need somebody else to comment tho. I'm not interested in 64bit at this time. I think until there's a preponderance of software ported to 64bit, you're better off with 32bit hardware. I just don't have enough time to do the searching for equipement and such like, tend to leave that to others, and take advice, I'm afraid you'll need to do some of your own research. As I said before, to settle on a board that fits your requirements. As Charles' reply to this thread points out, 3d/acell for KT600 chipsets is a Linux (kernel) problem. Doesn't affect me cause I avoid closed source proprietary drivers. Actually there's a whole lot'a hardware that's goin to be a problem for a while with 2.6.x kernels and closed source drivers and software. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Sunday 15 February 2004 10:08 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 14 February 2004 11:15 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I will want to be looking to construct afresh. Whats your thinking about 64 bit architecture. I read recently AMD have a chip that runs both 32 and 64bit though I don't know what mobos will suit. Will Mandrake keep up with this developement ? Will anyone be shipping OS's for 64 bit by this time next year? There's already 64bit OS's includin Mandrake. You'll need somebody else to comment tho. I'm not interested in 64bit at this time. I think until there's a preponderance of software ported to 64bit, you're better off with 32bit hardware. I just don't have enough time to do the searching for equipement and such like, tend to leave that to others, and take advice, I'm afraid you'll need to do some of your own research. As I said before, to settle on a board that fits your requirements. As Charles' reply to this thread points out, 3d/acell for KT600 chipsets is a Linux (kernel) problem. Doesn't affect me cause I avoid closed source proprietary drivers. Actually there's a whole lot'a hardware that's goin to be a problem for a while with 2.6.x kernels and closed source drivers and software. Do you really actually gain anything with 64 bit? 32 bit is fast, and 64 bit can claim to be faster, but you're still executing larger instructions. It may be doing it faster, but the instruction is still larger, so is their actually a noticeable speed increase? I doubt most people who are running off to buy these have any clue what the hell they are talking about lol. This being faster is just like using the analogy for a road. The speed limit may be 64, but how many lanes does it have? Remember, a road with a smaller speed limit but more lanes will out perform as long as the speed limit isn't a LOT lower ;) -- __ We Are 138 http://www.suse.com http://www.slackware.org http://www.bsd.org http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://www.cannibalholocaust.net http://www.misfits.com http://www.onethirtyeight.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:09:31 -0500 Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 15 February 2004 10:08 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 14 February 2004 11:15 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I will want to be looking to construct afresh. Whats your thinking about 64 bit architecture. I read recently AMD have a chip that runs both 32 and 64bit though I don't know what mobos will suit. Will Mandrake keep up with this developement ? Will anyone be shipping OS's for 64 bit by this time next year? There's already 64bit OS's includin Mandrake. You'll need somebody else to comment tho. I'm not interested in 64bit at this time. I think until there's a preponderance of software ported to 64bit, you're better off with 32bit hardware. I just don't have enough time to do the searching for equipement and such like, tend to leave that to others, and take advice, I'm afraid you'll need to do some of your own research. As I said before, to settle on a board that fits your requirements. As Charles' reply to this thread points out, 3d/acell for KT600 chipsets is a Linux (kernel) problem. Doesn't affect me cause I avoid closed source proprietary drivers. Actually there's a whole lot'a hardware that's goin to be a problem for a while with 2.6.x kernels and closed source drivers and software. Do you really actually gain anything with 64 bit? 32 bit is fast, and 64 bit can claim to be faster, but you're still executing larger instructions. It may be doing it faster, but the instruction is still larger, so is their actually a noticeable speed increase? I doubt most people who are running off to buy these have any clue what the hell they are talking about lol. This being faster is just like using the analogy for a road. The speed limit may be 64, but how many lanes does it have? Remember, a road with a smaller speed limit but more lanes will out perform as long as the speed limit isn't a LOT lower ;) Linux Format Magazine has a supplement called Linux Pro which has recently summarised the case for 64-bit computing. Their general conclusion is that the average desktop user does not need it - yet. It is inherently slower than 32-bit at present because of cache size limitations; a cache of a particular size will hold twice as many 32-bit addresses as 64. As in all things PC, the choice depends to a large extent on the the main job of the machine. 64-bit has an advantage when dealing with huge data sets, especially if those require more than 4 gigabytes of RAM (the limit for 32-bit). At work (Royal Observatory Edinburgh) back in the early 1990s we used some DEC Alpha machines as UNIX workstations and those did seem to run faster than the Sun hardware; but they did have the advantage of 500+ MHz processors. -- Len Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Friday 13 February 2004 11:31 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Well good John. Now next time you buy a motherboard, check around for one that has a second bios backup already onboard and doesn't need a DOS boot floppy, or Windoze runnin, to flash the bios. If for any reason the flash fails, or the bios is corrupted (Winsux virus?), the board automatically boots from the backup bios chip. Many of the newer boards are movin to this. Some have had it for years. Have you any particular makes in mind. My mobo is now 2 years old, did it have this bios backup then ? I don't remember it being the case, though it may well of been. Currently I'm usin an Asus A7V600, KT600 chipset. http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7V600langs=01# BUT, I'll refrain from recommending motherboards. It's too much of a moving target for desktop hardware. My only advice would be to consult http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348^7923,00.html Then go to the websites for the AMD recommended boards and start makin a shortlist of those that fit your requirements. Then check for Linux compatibility. At this time, a VIA chipset board is probly the best bet, SiS might be OK. Unfortunately there's little such sources for Intel based systems, but I don't believe they've _yet_ to come up with a decent P4 chipset anyhow. I'd favor an Intel based system for production server use tho. ...and avoid hardware reviews where the test OS was Windoze. If more people did that, there wouldn't be so many Linux users tryin to run on nForce chipset boards ;) Probly a good idea to look for a board that's been out for 4 to 6 months. Both for Linux user experience, and it'll probly come with the latest bios version. IOW's avoid the latest and greatest. Usually cheaper that way anyhow ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:10:29 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently I'm usin an Asus A7V600, KT600 chipset. I going to chime in with a few words about the KT600. Be aware that the 2.4 kernel Only supports the KT600 in 2X mode for graphics cards. If you have a 'newer' high performance card and especially if you use the nvidia or fglrx driver you will Not be able to have hardware acceleration because the via_agp module can not be loaded Unless the included BIOS allows for the selection of 2X mode. Don't know about others but on my Soyo Dragon I can set it for either 4 or 8 but not 2 which meant no dri with my Radeon 9600XT and the 9.2 kernels. The fact won't affect Tom as he use nv. In my case I rebuilt the 2.6.2-1.tmb.1mdkenterprise for usage on my 9.2 system. Charles -- Enjoy yourself while you're still old. - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon 2.6.2-1.tmb.1mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:46:15 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:10:29 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently I'm usin an Asus A7V600, KT600 chipset. I going to chime in with a few words about the KT600. Be aware that the 2.4 kernel Only supports the KT600 in 2X mode for graphics cards. If you have a 'newer' high performance card and especially if you use the nvidia or fglrx driver you will Not be able to have hardware acceleration because the via_agp module can not be loaded Unless the included BIOS allows for the selection of 2X mode. Don't know about others but on my Soyo Dragon I can set it for either 4 or 8 but not 2 which meant no dri with my Radeon 9600XT and the 9.2 kernels. The fact won't affect Tom as he use nv. In my case I rebuilt the 2.6.2-1.tmb.1mdkenterprise for usage on my 9.2 system. That reminds me, I have a KT400 based Soyo Dragon Lite. I have an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra. How can I tell at what speed my AGP bus is running at? I just kinda put my card in and installed the NVIDIA drivers, if you know what I mean grin. Thanks, John -- Sat Feb 14 11:10:37 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Keep on keepin' on. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 13 February 2004 11:31 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Well good John. Now next time you buy a motherboard, check around for one that has a second bios backup already onboard and doesn't need a DOS boot floppy, or Windoze runnin, to flash the bios. If for any reason the flash fails, or the bios is corrupted (Winsux virus?), the board automatically boots from the backup bios chip. Many of the newer boards are movin to this. Some have had it for years. Have you any particular makes in mind. My mobo is now 2 years old, did it have this bios backup then ? I don't remember it being the case, though it may well of been. Currently I'm usin an Asus A7V600, KT600 chipset. http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7V600langs=01# BUT, I'll refrain from recommending motherboards. It's too much of a moving target for desktop hardware. My only advice would be to consult http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348^7923,00.html Then go to the websites for the AMD recommended boards and start makin a shortlist of those that fit your requirements. Then check for Linux compatibility. At this time, a VIA chipset board is probly the best bet, SiS might be OK. Unfortunately there's little such sources for Intel based systems, but I don't believe they've _yet_ to come up with a decent P4 chipset anyhow. I'd favor an Intel based system for production server use tho. ...and avoid hardware reviews where the test OS was Windoze. If more people did that, there wouldn't be so many Linux users tryin to run on nForce chipset boards ;) Probly a good idea to look for a board that's been out for 4 to 6 months. Both for Linux user experience, and it'll probly come with the latest bios version. IOW's avoid the latest and greatest. Usually cheaper that way anyhow ;) Sure, my sentiments entirely , let the others buy the very last word, choose the one that's been around for some months at least. I shall not be buying again until after Christmas , so sometime next February I will want to be looking to construct afresh. Whats your thinking about 64 bit architecture. I read recently AMD have a chip that runs both 32 and 64bit though I don't know what mobos will suit. Will Mandrake keep up with this developement ? Will anyone be shipping OS's for 64 bit by this time next year? I just don't have enough time to do the searching for equipement and such like, tend to leave that to others, and take advice, but I still like to keep up with general developements. Will there be cpu's of 64bit and fsb of 400 around by next year and mobo's to suit? What do you feel ? What's happening by then ? My current best computer will be my second fiddle and the oldest junked, natuarlly I'm keen to make the best buy's but just don't have the inclination to spend hours and hours reading up on it all. So I'm game for suggestions. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:11:51 -0600 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That reminds me, I have a KT400 based Soyo Dragon Lite. I have an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra. How can I tell at what speed my AGP bus is running at? If you changed nothing then it will be running at the default value. It should be noted in the BIOS section of your MOBO manual, if not then you will need to access the BIOS to find the value. Charles -- Not only is God dead, but just try to find a plumber on weekends. --Woody Allen - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon 2.6.2-1.tmb.1mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Bios upgrades
Bios upgrades = First off, not the fearsome thing it is made out to be. I just learnt the hard way a few precautionary things that saves time and grief. 1) Go into BIOS and turn of all virus detection settings. 2) Buy a spare bios chip(they don't cost much - £5 UK PCCI) 3) Back up your old bios to a floppy. 4) My MSI bios chip upgrade website is very confusing,at first. I did mine the dos floppy route, as I cannot trust freeserve , my ISP, not to cut me off.So no flash bios. In any case I think I prefer the dos floppy route, more real control. Now, even if you don't have a second bios chip and you screw up, all is not lost provided that you have access to another computer with the same type of bios chip.An upgrade of that chip can be effected by means of substituting the machine's bios chip for the reprogrammed chip at the critical last moment before it is written to chip. After all you still have the machine's original bios chip to fall back on. The result. I now have very large HD capability I noticed on first boot that the mounting of my smart card reader went smoothly, something it has never done before. Too early to tell if that is final, but encouraging nevertheless. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
On Sunday 13 October 2002 07:34 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Bios upgrades = First off, not the fearsome thing it is made out to be. I just learnt the hard way a few precautionary things that saves time and grief. 1) Go into BIOS and turn of all virus detection settings. This is a good idea in any event 2) Buy a spare bios chip(they don't cost much - £5 UK PCCI) 3) Back up your old bios to a floppy. see below 4) My MSI bios chip upgrade website is very confusing,at first. I did mine the dos floppy route, as I cannot trust freeserve , my ISP, not to cut me off.So no flash bios. In any case I think I prefer the dos floppy route, more real control. Now, even if you don't have a second bios chip and you screw up, all is not lost provided that you have access to another computer with the same type of bios chip.An upgrade of that chip can be effected by means of substituting the machine's bios chip for the reprogrammed chip at the critical last moment before it is written to chip. After all you still have the machine's original bios chip to fall back on. The result. I now have very large HD capability I noticed on first boot that the mounting of my smart card reader went smoothly, something it has never done before. Too early to tell if that is final, but encouraging nevertheless. John Well good John. Now next time you buy a motherboard, check around for one that has a second bios backup already onboard and doesn't need a DOS boot floppy, or Windoze runnin, to flash the bios. If for any reason the flash fails, or the bios is corrupted (Winsux virus?), the board automatically boots from the backup bios chip. Many of the newer boards are movin to this. Some have had it for years. It's always a good idea to check your motherboard's web page for bios updates. Usually updated for about the first 18 months the board is on the market. It's not always neccessary to update tho. EG, my board (also a dual bios, no boot floppy needed board) has a new bios version available, but the changelog shows it's to fix a problem with hardware I don't have. So it's helpful to read the changelog before updating. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 13 October 2002 07:34 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Bios upgrades = Well good John. Now next time you buy a motherboard, check around for one that has a second bios backup already onboard and doesn't need a DOS boot floppy, or Windoze runnin, to flash the bios. If for any reason the flash fails, or the bios is corrupted (Winsux virus?), the board automatically boots from the backup bios chip. Many of the newer boards are movin to this. Some have had it for years. Have you any particular makes in mind. My mobo is now 2 years old, did it have this bios backup then ? I don't remember it being the case, though it may well of been. It's always a good idea to check your motherboard's web page for bios updates. Usually updated for about the first 18 months the board is on the market. It's not always neccessary to update tho. EG, my board (also a dual bios, no boot floppy needed board) has a new bios version available, but the changelog shows it's to fix a problem with hardware I don't have. So it's helpful to read the changelog before updating. I quite agree. Only inexperience that held me back. Not from now on though. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bios problems
Thanks Tony I thought there was a program to stop it from checking new hardware. Ill Check on google David Sexton Registered linux user #332925 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bios problems
Is hardrake the program that checks for new hardware, and hardware changes. Maybe if I turn that off on boot that will keep it from detecting changes. could that work? David Sexton Registered linux user #332925 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bios problems
Here is the problems I have a Dell Inispron 4000 series the and of cores the mother board is bad but every thing works fine except the system bios dues not keep time. No problem I don't mind the clock time being wrong but every time it boots up it finds my network card and wireless network card also. So it keeps screwing up my network settings and I have to keep copying the configuration for the wireless card over every time I want to use it. Dose any one have any idea how to fix this problem? Besides replacing the mother board maybe a permission change would that work? Thanks so much Yeah I know I a cheep David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios problems
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:07 am, David Sexton wrote: Here is the problems I have a Dell Inispron 4000 series the and of cores the mother board is bad but every thing works fine except the system bios dues not keep time. No problem I don't mind the clock time being wrong but every time it boots up it finds my network card and wireless network card also. So it keeps screwing up my network settings and I have to keep copying the configuration for the wireless card over every time I want to use it. Dose any one have any idea how to fix this problem? Besides replacing the mother board maybe a permission change would that work? Hello, Does this only happen in, and because of, Linux? Since your clock resets on boot-up, and your BIOS configuration settings are not saved, you might have a dead CMOS battery, which is just that bit cheaper to replace than a motherboard. Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] BIOS Upgrade
First my appologies to Mr Adams for sending that mail first to him instead of the newbie list. So... I wanted to replace my old small HD with new and fast 40G harddrive in my old box that is from year 99. As suspected the new HD was not recognised by bios. Tec support suggested to do the BIOS Upgrade as it should do the job. My only question is how to do that ? The instructions I have, talk about a DOS bootdisk. Well I am 100% windows free and need to do that under Linux. Please advise me how to acomplish this task. My motherboard is Acorp 6BX86 with Cel400. if anybody wants to know Regards Kristjan - Hot Mobiil - helinad, logod ja piltsõnumid! http://www.hot.ee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS Upgrade
On Tuesday October 1 2002 06:16 am, Kristjan Klementi wrote: So... I wanted to replace my old small HD with new and fast 40G harddrive in my old box that is from year 99. As suspected the new HD was not recognised by bios. Tec support suggested to do the BIOS Upgrade as it should do the job. My only question is how to do that ? The instructions I have, talk about a DOS bootdisk. Well I am 100% windows free and need to do that under Linux. You can d/l dos bootdisks at http://www.bootdisk.com/ Hunt around for one that comes as an image file and use Linux to 'dd' it to a floppy. If you find some that are (Win).zip files, unzip-5.50-2mdk or KDE's archiver can probly handle em. If you find some that are (Win) self-extracting archives, wine can do it. 'Least the newest one can, wine-20020804-3mdk. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] BIOS Upgrade
Title: RE: [newbie] BIOS Upgrade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] BIOS Upgrade On Tuesday October 1 2002 06:16 am, Kristjan Klementi wrote: So... I wanted to replace my old small HD with new and fast 40G harddrive in my old box that is from year 99. As suspected the new HD was not recognised by bios. Tec support suggested to do the BIOS Upgrade as it should do the job. My only question is how to do that ? The instructions I have, talk about a DOS bootdisk. Well I am 100% windows free and need to do that under Linux. You can d/l dos bootdisks at http://www.bootdisk.com/ Hunt around for one that comes as an image file and use Linux to 'dd' it to a floppy. If you find some that are (Win).zip files, unzip-5.50-2mdk or KDE's archiver can probly handle em. If you find some that are (Win) self-extracting archives, wine can do it. 'Least the newest one can, wine-20020804-3mdk. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Some motherboards have a jumper that you need to move to short out the last bios settings and then put back on its original position to set the default bios back in place. On mine I jumper pins 2 and 3 to short jp5 and then set back on pins 1 and 2 to reset bios (as an example) Soyo MB. The new hard drive then gets recognized? Just a thought. Dennis M.
RE: [newbie] BIOS Upgrade
If you have tech support on your motherboard USE IT ,you need to be very careful picking the right bio upgrade ,this is changeing the software loaded in a chip on your motherboard get the wrong bio,s and its a door stop.The jumper pin,s is DEFAULT this is what your changeing.I was reformating are H/D two weeks ago and they think the battery went bad but it clearded the rom chip.The motherboard has builtin lock so its change the chip are motherboard and they cost about the same.I changed the motherboard. JOE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] BIOS Upgrade On Tuesday October 1 2002 06:16 am, Kristjan Klementi wrote: So... I wanted to replace my old small HD with new and fast 40G harddrive in my old box that is from year 99. As suspected the new HD was not recognised by bios. Tec support suggested to do the BIOS Upgrade as it should do the job. My only question is how to do that ? The instructions I have, talk about a DOS bootdisk. Well I am 100% windows free and need to do that under Linux. You can d/l dos bootdisks at http://www.bootdisk.com/ Hunt around for one that comes as an image file and use Linux to 'dd' it to a floppy. If you find some that are (Win).zip files, unzip-5.50-2mdk or KDE's archiver can probly handle em. If you find some that are (Win) self-extracting archives, wine can do it. 'Least the newest one can, wine-20020804-3mdk. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Some motherboards have a jumper that you need to move to short out the last bios settings and then put back on its original position to set the default bios back in place. On mine I jumper pins 2 and 3 to short jp5 and then set back on pins 1 and 2 to reset bios (as an example) Soyo MB. The new hard drive then gets recognized? Just a thought. Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios burning software question.
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 03:50 pm, Terence J. Golightly wrote: I installed lm_sensors but I need help configuring. As root sensors -s returned no sensors found message. the man page told this but little more. /etc/sensors.conf need help deciphering what I need to do/not do in here. Did you run 'sensors-detect' (as root)? It asks a bunch of questions (default answers are usually best), then generates some lines you need to paste into /etc/rc.d/rc.local and /etc/modules.conf. You might also need to put 'i2c-proc' in /etc/modules. Then as user typing 'sensors' should display temps, fan speeds, voltages. Normally you shouldn't need to edit sensors.conf. http://www.memtest86.com/ but there's probly already a Mandrake rpm for it on your CD's. Somethin like 'dd if=memtest86-.bin of=/dev/fd0' will copy memtest86 to a floppy you can then boot from. ie, when lilo comes up, choose 'floppy' No need to set the bios to boot from floppy. That was easy. Just the testing takes forever. Which test is most important oc'ing? I'll give this a try after I get lm_sensors up and running. It'll run forever if you let it, but if you've got ram problems they'll usually become apparent immediately or at least within 15 to 30 minutes. For a thorough test let it run overnite. You should see -0- errors. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios burning software question.
On Monday 24 June 2002 08:09 pm, Terence J. Golightly wrote: I don't know about oc'ing my system it sits in an un-airconditioned house on the top floor. Fans are the only thing moving air around to make it bearable. I like to leave the machine running, but with the heat it shut itself off until I added one of those twin fans that mount in a hd bay.The past several days the room was over 90 degrees farenheit. Then system heat is gonna be a problem whether you oc or not I did order some more cooling goodies from Tiger direct maybe I'll try it then. One's a heat sink like device for the memory stick another is a fan with digital thermometer and one is another variation on the drive bay fans. Plus some round ribbon cables to clean up the inside of the box and allow better air flow. Still, coolings gonna be dificult usin hot air to do it. I suggest you install the lm_sensors rpm from your CD's and keep a close eye on system temperatures. Ram doesn't need cooling, so skip that heat sink like device for the memory stick. You might havt'a run with the case cover off and a table fan blowing into the system. your PCI/AGP bus will still be real close, Close meaning? You always want to keep the PCI bus close as possible to 33.33mhz. One or two mhz under or over is usually not a problem. The FSB (front side bus) is divided by a chip on the motherboard. Around 133mhz FSB, this divider is 4. So 143/4 = 35.75, or about 2.5mhz over spec, and definitely you should go no higher. Everything runs on the PCI bus, and particularly harddrives are at risk when the PCI is too far out'a spec. SCSI devices even more so. Don't go over 144 tho, if you do try anyhow, boot a memtest86 floppy what is a memtest86 floppy? http://www.memtest86.com/ but there's probly already a Mandrake rpm for it on your CD's. Somethin like 'dd if=memtest86-.bin of=/dev/fd0' will copy memtest86 to a floppy you can then boot from. ie, when lilo comes up, choose 'floppy' No need to set the bios to boot from floppy. rather than your FS. Do you mean by FS file system? Yes, when fooling with your system, it's a much better idea to test it without booting your regular file system, specially if you use ext2. That way if you have to do a hard reset, your FS isn't risked. Add a touch to Vcore voltage, I'm not up on some these settings This means cpu voltage core right? Yes. Off hand I don't remember the Vcore for an XP. Using my 1.4 Tbird as an example, AMD reccommends a range of 1.7 to 1.85v for it, with 1.75 being default. I run it at 1.85 IIRC, your XP runs in the 1.6x range. Soyo's already add a touch to IOv. IOv meaning the IO voltage for the internal peripherals? Yes, particularly your ram. Default is 3.3v, 3.5 up to 3.7 is better. Greatly increases ram performance and reliability. Most good mobo's like Soyo provide 3.45 to 3.55v, or have a setting to get above 3.3 Actually a touch more Vcore's not a bad idea even if you don't oc. You'll be in the XP 2200+ ++ range, solid as a rock ;~ Soyo, best AMD app'vd oc'ing mobo IMO, LinuxHardware thinks so too Yeah I checked them out at one non-Linux Hardware Site before going to LinuxHardware too see if they had tested the Dragon Plus. I need a refresher on oc'ing, is there a site you recommend? Google 'overclocking'. Don't pay much attention to the kiddie sites (they're the ones taking the FSB high as they can and still boot windoze). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios burning software question.
On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 10:37, tom brinkman wrote: I suspect he's got the FSB set to 100 rather than 133. On some Soyo motherboards this can be set in bios, some require 2 jumper settings on the mobo. Terry's got his XP runnin at 12.5x100, rather than 12.5x133 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Yup! Thanks all Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios burning software question.
On Monday 24 June 2002 03:57 pm, Terence J. Golightly wrote: On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 10:37, tom brinkman wrote: I suspect he's got the FSB set to 100 rather than 133. On some Soyo motherboards this can be set in bios, some require 2 jumper settings on the mobo. Terry's got his XP runnin at 12.5x100, rather than 12.5x133 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Yup! Thanks all Not done with 'ya yet Terry ;) Try up to 12.5 x 143 (1788 Mhz), your PCI/AGP bus will still be real close, should add a lot more zip. Don't go over 144 tho, if you do try anyhow, boot a memtest86 floppy, rather than your FS. Add a touch to Vcore voltage, Soyo's already add a touch to IOv. Actually a touch more Vcore's not a bad idea even if you don't oc. You'll be in the XP 2200+ ++ range, solid as a rock ;~ Soyo, best AMD app'vd oc'ing mobo IMO, LinuxHardware thinks so too -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bios burning software question.
Tom, On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 20:25, tom brinkman wrote: On Monday 24 June 2002 03:57 pm, Terence J. Golightly wrote: On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 10:37, tom brinkman wrote: I suspect he's got the FSB set to 100 rather than 133. On some Soyo motherboards this can be set in bios, some require 2 jumper settings on the mobo. Terry's got his XP runnin at 12.5x100, rather than 12.5x133 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Yup! Thanks all Try up to 12.5 x 143 (1788 Mhz), I don't know about oc'ing my system it sits in an un-airconditioned house on the top floor. Fans are the only thing moving air around to make it bearable. I like to leave the machine running, but with the heat it shut itself off until I added one of those twin fans that mount in a hd bay.The past several days the room was over 90 degrees farenheit. I did order some more cooling goodies from Tiger direct maybe I'll try it then. One's a heat sink like device for the memory stick another is a fan with digital thermometer and one is another variation on the drive bay fans. Plus some round ribbon cables to clean up the inside of the box and allow better air flow. your PCI/AGP bus will still be real close, Close meaning? Don't go over 144 tho, if you do try anyhow, boot a memtest86 floppy what is a memtest86 floppy? rather than your FS. Do you mean by FS file system? Add a touch to Vcore voltage, I'm not up on some these settings This means cpu voltage core right? Soyo's already add a touch to IOv. IOv meaning the IO voltage for the internal peripherals? Actually a touch more Vcore's not a bad idea even if you don't oc. You'll be in the XP 2200+ ++ range, solid as a rock ;~ Soyo, best AMD app'vd oc'ing mobo IMO, LinuxHardware thinks so too Yeah I checked them out at one non-Linux Hardware Site before going to LinuxHardware too see if they had tested the Dragon Plus. I need a refresher on oc'ing, is there a site you recommend? thanks, Terry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] bios setting
Sounds like your computer requires a different keystroke to enter the BIOS at power up. The del key is the most common and usually works for clones, but name brand computers like yours often require you to press a different key to get into the BIOS. Take a good look at the boot message upon power on; most manufacturers tell you there what key to press to get into the BIOS. Failing that check your Compaq manual or check Compaq's web site. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:21:55 -0400 Ron Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on page 5 of the mandrake guide it tells me to set my bios for the pnp, it tell me to hold down the delete key at power up to change the setting. i am running a compaq 7470 windows 98se. when i do this nothing different happens windows still loads,i have tried both ways reboot,power off and then power it back up.help ty Ron Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] bios setting
On Monday 22 April 2002 02:42 pm, Warren Post wrote: Sounds like your computer requires a different keystroke to enter the BIOS at power up. The del key is the most common and usually works for clones, but name brand computers like yours often require you to press a different key to get into the BIOS. Take a good look at the boot message upon power on; most manufacturers tell you there what key to press to get into the BIOS. Failing that check your Compaq manual or check Compaq's web site. Try F10 -- IIRC, you have to be pretty aggressive about it. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] bios setting
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Bill Spatz wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] bios setting Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 09:31:45 -0600 From: Bill Spatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 21 April 2002 09:21 am, you wrote: on page 5 of the mandrake guide it tells me to set my bios for the pnp, it tell me to hold down the delete key at power up to change the setting. i am running a compaq 7470 windows 98se. when i do this nothing different happens windows still loads,i have tried both ways reboot,power off and then power it back up.help ty Ron On Compaq's, (most of the time), watch for a blinking block cursor on the upper right hand corner and then press the F10 key. Yes, and press it repeatedly! Just once probably will not do it. BTW, in my Compaqs bios, there is no pnp setting to turn off...a Presario 5834, IIRC, that had about the most rudimentary bios you'll ever see. -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] BIOS Problems?
Hello, I have an authentic 1996 vintage IBM PC330, model 6577-9AT. I dual boot Windows 2000/DOS 5 and Mandrake 8.0 using LILO. Whenever I reboot into DOS after using Linux, it crashes on EMM386. Is this a BIOS problem (I have the latest '99 flash) as suggested off-list by [EMAIL PROTECTED], or is it Linux? It doesn't happen after rebooting from Win2000 into DOS. thanks in advance, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] bios stuff
Hi all, The last two bios for the abit KT7133A mb, mention some PCI stuff and a possible fix for the soundblaster live problems... would that have anything to do with the south bridge problem?? here is the writeup on the last two bios's Filename: KT73C.EXE Date: 06/11/2001 ID: 3C NOTE: HPT370 RAID BIOS version 1.11.0402 Attention !!! Since bios 3C includes HPT bios 1.11, you may need upgrade your HPT370 driver before flashing the bios. When you upgrade your bios from ZT to 3C, we highly recommend you backup your system to an independent storage device first. This is because the new HPT 1.11 bios can not keep the old configuration. This means you may need to rebuild your RAID system. Therefore, you may lose RAID-0 data when you update the bios from old version to new one. For RAID-1 user, please press CTRL+H to enter hpt370 setup screen and do Duplicate Mirror Disk to recover RAID system. Filename: KT7ZT.EXE Date: 05/11/2001 ID: ZT NOTE: Adds three new options to enhance the system compatibility - Delay Transaction -PCI master read -PCI master time-out Sets above options to Disabled/0 and may help SB Live 5.1 sound issue. If the system experiences low performance after these settings, enable thePCI master read caching. Fixes the Athlon 1.3G(100) wrongfully being recognized as 104x12.5. Adds an option State after power failure. Sets all four IDE devices to AUTO. Sets the default year to 2001. rgds Frank
Re: [newbie] bios question
s wrote: it actually works correctly now. I guess something happened to it during the transplant. ? Thnx, -s Strange things happen when you unplug previously working equipment. Congratulations on the successful brain transplant! -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] bios question
The bios continued to get worse, it just got to where it wouldn't recognize my hdd half the time. I finally decided to get brave and flash it. My gosh, it actually works correctly now. I guess something happened to it during the transplant. ? Thnx, -s On Wednesday 25 April 2001 08:42 am, you wrote: s wrote: that uses a via VT82C/686A chipset and 133MHz FSB. The oses start and run fine, once I get passed the bios. *Problem: the bios takes over two minutes to boot and pass off to the os.* I can't find any irregularities Some servers do that as well. I wouldn't be overly concerned except that you say that up until this point was booting quickly. Look for some sort of conflict. master and only hdd on ide1, cdrom as master on secondary ide channel with cdrw as slave. Basic floppy, and 512M of 133 ram (max allowable: 768). Don't set the bios to auto for the cdrom drives. Set it to none. See if the problem stays the same or changes. If no differences, completely disconnect both cdrom drives and see if the problem stays the same or changes.
Re: [newbie] bios question
s wrote: that uses a via VT82C/686A chipset and 133MHz FSB. The oses start and run fine, once I get passed the bios. *Problem: the bios takes over two minutes to boot and pass off to the os.* I can't find any irregularities Some servers do that as well. I wouldn't be overly concerned except that you say that up until this point was booting quickly. Look for some sort of conflict. master and only hdd on ide1, cdrom as master on secondary ide channel with cdrw as slave. Basic floppy, and 512M of 133 ram (max allowable: 768). Don't set the bios to auto for the cdrom drives. Set it to none. See if the problem stays the same or changes. If no differences, completely disconnect both cdrom drives and see if the problem stays the same or changes. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
[newbie] BIOS
Does anyone know how to turn off plug and play on a HP Pavillion computer? I press F1 after turning on the computer and get a set-up screen. From there it is not obvious to me exactly what parameter(s) I should disable. Thanks for any help, Mickey Soltys
Re: [newbie] BIOS
Mr. Sherman I would help you but I don't have a compaq...Mine just says plug in play [on/off] but mine is gateway...sorry Mr. Smith I was just going to ask the same question, but about a Compaq...I pressed F10 (thats what the tech support guy said it was), but couldnt find Plug n Play...anybody? peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719 On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, msoltys wrote: Does anyone know how to turn off plug and play on a HP Pavillion computer? I press F1 after turning on the computer and get a set-up screen. From there it is not obvious to me exactly what parameter(s) I should disable. Thanks for any help, Mickey Soltys
Re: [newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS
On December 20, 2000 08:04 pm, you wrote: I can't even get my sound card to work and my PnP Bios has always been "off." I exited X and "su"ed to root and typed sndconfig and it still doesn't play sound in the test screen...Stupid Sound Blaster Live! Value Hello. I have a the same sound card and have PnP OS enabled and everything works fine. You may have an irq conflict. When Mandrake installed it detected the sound card and set it up perfectly.
Re: [newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS
On Wednesday 20 December 2000 11:34 pm, you wrote: I can't even get my soundcard to work and my PnP Bios has always been "off." I exited X and "su"ed to root and typed sndconfig and it still doesn't play sound in the test screen...Stupid Sound Blaster Live! Value cards...grrr... Dear Mr. Smith, I have a Stupid Sound Blaster Live! Value (pci) on one machine and it works as well as sound does in Mandrake (with the aRts and all). I have found that the trick is to run sndconfig first thing after install and reboot. So unless you've spent 8 hours updating, maybe reinstall and run sndconfig the very first thing. My modem is pci, and the video is agp (which is another problem that I need help with). While this may very well do the trick, there are other routes you might consider. One I've found helpful -- mostly with old hardware -- is to try each of the modules listed in sndconfig one at a time till one works. Another I'm planning to try this weekend with a much newer box if the bios update I got doesn't do it is to try the free oss which comes with lm instead of alsa. As oss had worked when I had RH 6.0 installed, I see no reason it not worth a shot. May work for you too. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS
Hi all, I've discovered that my sound card won't work unless I disable the PnP setting in my BIOS. I'm dual booting to Windoze98 and Mandrake, so I'm wondering what the consequences will to Windoze. Will Windoze start spontaneously launching national defense missiles in the name of Peter Pan or something? Thanks, Miark Registered Linux user #197870
Re: [newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS
I can't even get my soundcard to work and my PnP Bios has always been "off." I exited X and "su"ed to root and typed sndconfig and it still doesn't play sound in the test screen...Stupid Sound Blaster Live! Value cards...grrr... Mr. Smith Hi all, I've discovered that my sound card won't work unless I disable the PnP setting in my BIOS. I'm dual booting to Windoze98 and Mandrake, so I'm wondering what the consequences will to Windoze. Will Windoze start spontaneously launching national defense missiles in the name of Peter Pan or something? Thanks, Miark
Re: [newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS
Go ahead, you should have no problem at all. On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:54, Miark wrote: Hi all, I've discovered that my sound card won't work unless I disable the PnP setting in my BIOS. I'm dual booting to Windoze98 and Mandrake, so I'm wondering what the consequences will to Windoze. Will Windoze start spontaneously launching national defense missiles in the name of Peter Pan or something? Thanks, Miark Registered Linux user #197870 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
RE: [newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS
Windows will be quite peacfull with the BIOS set to non PnP OS. I had a problem with SB Live Value in 7.2 with KDE 1.99, no sound, resource busy; but if I logged into gnome (which I like more anyway) the sound worked so the problem is not the card but the program. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mr. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] BIOS setting: Plug 'n play OS I can't even get my soundcard to work and my PnP Bios has always been "off." I exited X and "su"ed to root and typed sndconfig and it still doesn't play sound in the test screen...Stupid Sound Blaster Live! Value cards...grrr... Mr. Smith Hi all, I've discovered that my sound card won't work unless I disable the PnP setting in my BIOS. I'm dual booting to Windoze98 and Mandrake, so I'm wondering what the consequences will to Windoze. Will Windoze start spontaneously launching national defense missiles in the name of Peter Pan or something? Thanks, Miark
Re: [newbie] BIOS, sound, and modem
This operation should be done when the VERY FIRST printing begins to show on the screen. This is the BIOS setting up of your system. DO NOT WAIT FOR ANY 'Windows' operations like 'Starting Windows 95' or 'Installing Windows 98' or even any other 'Windows' operations. If you have American Mega Trends BIOS or what ever it is this is when you need to press the 'F2', 'DEL', 'Insert' or any other keys that may require your input. Different BOIS' require different uses of keys, check your books on your system to see what is needed for your access to the BIOS setup. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:08:36 -0300 "Emilio Correa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date sent:Mon, 06 Mar 2000 19:54:43 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matthew Loschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] BIOS, sound, and modem I have some problems with setting up my sound card and modem, somebody emailed back and said that you have to turn off PnP in the Bios settings. I have a newer computer HP Pavilion and when it boots up it doesn't give you and option to enter into bios so How do I get into BIOS? Matt Hi, you should try press and hold on "F2" or "Del" for example when the monitor shows the first windows or shows a text: "press del if you want to run set up". Good luck!! Emilio Correa e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuayuda.com.ar (Informática/Listas de Correo) YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] BIOS, sound, and modem
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, you wrote: I have some problems with setting up my sound card and modem, somebody emailed back and said that you have to turn off PnP in the Bios settings. I have a newer computer HP Pavilion and when it boots up it doesn't give you and option to enter into bios so How do I get into BIOS? I have a HP Pavilion running windows. You need to hit the F1 key while booting to get into the bios setup -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] BIOS, sound, and modem
Well, a friend of mine also has one of these "brand PC's" with weird BIOS that doesn't follow the "press DEL to enter BIOS" convention. So what I basically do is this: from the instant you power on the box, press and hold down a key (I usually take DEL, but any key should work). Then it'll detect some keyboard malfunction and ask you to press F2 (probably differs on your HP) to enter BIOS. This trick might work, or perhaps not. Worth a shot though. ps: perhaps the BIOS is password protected (some vendors do this so they don't have to fix what you screw up). In this case you should call the helpdesk for the password, but I 've seen some vendors that cancel your warranty if you do. So watch out ;) On Mar 6 Matthew Loschmann wrote: I have some problems with setting up my sound card and modem, somebody emailed back and said that you have to turn off PnP in the Bios settings. I have a newer computer HP Pavilion and when it boots up it doesn't give you and option to enter into bios so How do I get into BIOS? Matt -- Rial Juan http://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel: (++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org Unix IS user-friendly. It's just not ignorant-friendly or idiot-friendly. -- Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
RE: [newbie] BIOS, sound, and modem
there are other key combos to get into the bios as well some of them are Ctrl + shift +esc or Ctrl + alt +esc or Shift F2 or Ctrl Shift f2 Usually it is one of those or just F2 HTH -Original Message- From: Rial Juan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] BIOS, sound, and modem Well, a friend of mine also has one of these "brand PC's" with weird BIOS that doesn't follow the "press DEL to enter BIOS" convention. So what I basically do is this: from the instant you power on the box, press and hold down a key (I usually take DEL, but any key should work). Then it'll detect some keyboard malfunction and ask you to press F2 (probably differs on your HP) to enter BIOS. This trick might work, or perhaps not. Worth a shot though. ps: perhaps the BIOS is password protected (some vendors do this so they don't have to fix what you screw up). In this case you should call the helpdesk for the password, but I 've seen some vendors that cancel your warranty if you do. So watch out ;) On Mar 6 Matthew Loschmann wrote: I have some problems with setting up my sound card and modem, somebody emailed back and said that you have to turn off PnP in the Bios settings. I have a newer computer HP Pavilion and when it boots up it doesn't give you and option to enter into bios so How do I get into BIOS? Matt -- Rial Juan http://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel: (++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org Unix IS user-friendly. It's just not ignorant-friendly or idiot-friendly. -- Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[newbie] BIOS tweaks
I'm no stranger to my 'puter's (AMD) BIOS setup, but there are a few parameters I'm not sure exactly what they do. Under Chipset Setup, Dram control, I've disabled Memory Hole, cuz I read somewhere Linux doesn't appreciate memory holes... There's read/write Leadoff... Read burst Timing...Write burst timing...Ras to Cas Delay...Ras precharge... I've got an idea as to what some of these settings do, just not sure what changing them would do for my system. Should I just not fool w/ them as long as my sys is running, or could changing these offer *any* +performance under Linux w/ a P133, 48MB's RAM? If it matters, I bought my 'puter in Fall '96, it's an A-OPEN AP5C/P and upon boot it says my BIOS date is OCTOBER, 1994. I did, however, get an updated motherboard driver (Jan., 1997). Don't know what this changed if anything. Thank you all! -Josh
Re: [newbie] BIOS incompatibilities?
What problem was Win98 having with your BIOS? I only ever had one problem...the settings in my BIOS had a chunk of memory reserved for ISA cards, and this caused Linux to only use the first 15MB of memory. I changed the setting in the BIOS, and all was well---Linux saw the entire 80MB of memory. HTH, Matt From: Ger-Bil Jinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] BIOS incompatibilities? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:22:12 -0800 (PST) Are there any known problems Linux-Mandrake has with certain BIOS? It has in the past showed problems with my Windoze 98 and I'm starting to fear that my two year old BIOS might have problems with Linux-Mandrake. Thanx :3)~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] BIOS incompatibilities?
Are there any known problems Linux-Mandrake has with certain BIOS? It has in the past showed problems with my Windoze 98 and I'm starting to fear that my two year old BIOS might have problems with Linux-Mandrake. Thanx :3)~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
