Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 03 Dec 2004 01:15, RickSisler wrote: RickSisler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anne Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi All and Raffaele, I couldn't rip a music cd although Grip would *act* like it was, but wouldn't encode the tracks, so obviously something was amiss. And so after reading the grip documentation, in order to get the drive to actually use the cdrom/dvd drive correctly, I had to add the /dev/sda to the config tab of Grip and it now *works* well. It had to do with scsi emulation without adding anything to the lilo append line. Rick, could you add this to the TWiki? I think the page would be=20 SoftwareIssues. Anne, I didn't see any topic for Software Issues ? However, I did see Audio Applications ? this would seem to be the appropriate place ? It looks as though that page was missed when we re-built, so I've added it back. Why not put your article in Audio Applications, then create a link to it in SoftwareIssues? That way, accessing AA will automatically take you to it, but if you go to SoftwareIssues as a troubleshooting page you will still get to it. Just a suggestion. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBsDZukFAvMr/nNX8RAnaKAJ9A9Mu3YY2/u9Nm6/xFQZe5iPyNegCdEBdV ZxBaAfT83/8iz1gj48FS2E4= =qGLS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
Anne Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anne, I didn't see any topic for Software Issues ? However, I did see Audio Applications ? this would seem to be the appropriate place ? It looks as though that page was missed when we re-built, so I've added it back. Why not put your article in Audio Applications, then create a link to it in SoftwareIssues? That way, accessing AA will automatically take you t o it, but if you go to SoftwareIssues as a troubleshooting page you will stil= l get to it. Just a suggestion. Anne Ok Anne, will follow your suggestion. -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgpsOIj7sXnAj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 02 Dec 2004 00:18, RickSisler wrote: Hi All and Raffaele, I couldn't rip a music cd although Grip would *act* like it was, but wouldn't encode the tracks, so obviously something was amiss. And so after reading the grip documentation, in order to get the drive to actually use the cdrom/dvd drive correctly, I had to add the /dev/sda to the config tab of Grip and it now *works* well. It had to do with scsi emulation without adding anything to the lilo append line. Rick, could you add this to the TWiki? I think the page would be SoftwareIssues. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBruBwkFAvMr/nNX8RArv1AJ9HRDR/ZvaMrMvkPLp9XquIqqWJDgCgohLX HF8a3f/Qry+8SeuRvF/cocA= =ht6Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
Anne Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi All and Raffaele, I couldn't rip a music cd although Grip would *act* like it was, but wouldn't encode the tracks, so obviously something was amiss. And so after reading the grip documentation, in order to get the drive to actually use the cdrom/dvd drive correctly, I had to add the /dev/sda to the config tab of Grip and it now *works* well. It had to do with scsi emulation without adding anything to the lilo append line. Rick, could you add this to the TWiki? I think the page would be=20 SoftwareIssues. Sure Ann 8) -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgpPkfJ0P9hTw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
RickSisler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anne Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi All and Raffaele, I couldn't rip a music cd although Grip would *act* like it was, but wouldn't encode the tracks, so obviously something was amiss. And so after reading the grip documentation, in order to get the drive to actually use the cdrom/dvd drive correctly, I had to add the /dev/sda to the config tab of Grip and it now *works* well. It had to do with scsi emulation without adding anything to the lilo append line. Rick, could you add this to the TWiki? I think the page would be=20 SoftwareIssues. Anne, I didn't see any topic for Software Issues ? However, I did see Audio Applications ? this would seem to be the appropriate place ? -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgpwfcLNxH1fA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
RickSisler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: RickSisler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sunday 28 November 2004 11:47 pm, RickSisler wrote: Raffaele BELARDI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. I have the exact same problem, did you find a solution ? --8-- snip --8-- Hi All and Raffaele, I couldn't rip a music cd although Grip would *act* like it was, but wouldn't encode the tracks, so obviously something was amiss. And so after reading the grip documentation, in order to get the drive to actually use the cdrom/dvd drive correctly, I had to add the /dev/sda to the config tab of Grip and it now *works* well. It had to do with scsi emulation without adding anything to the lilo append line. Thx for the help, Greg and Stephen, 8) -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgp8kOKBvkm2b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
RickSisler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sunday 28 November 2004 11:47 pm, RickSisler wrote: Raffaele BELARDI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. Hi raffaele, I have the exact same problem, did you find a solution ? Grip is working fine here on a 10.1 install. Are you trying to use Grip's built in cdparanoia library or the system cdparanoia. If using cdparanoia from the command line gives the same result, it sounds like a problem with cdparamoia and not grip. Try switching to the grip cdparanoia. -- /g Greg and Stephen, I was using Grip's builtin and so changed to the system cdparanoia with the same results. But it worked from cli with: $ cdparanoia -B -- -1 and sounded good. Well, cdparanoia from Grip, either builtin or not, doesn't rip the track. I also tried Stephen's method of forcing ide-scsi with no change, same result. I added this device to Grip's config for ripping, which would then just fail. I did install ripperx and it works with no errors or problems using cdparanoia as it does. So, I like Grip, but I'm still reading the documentation, and have yet to search google, and the Grip mailing list for any solutions. Thx for the help, I will post any findings. -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgpsF02i6Ws0T.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
Raffaele BELARDI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Subject line says it all... Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. What changed from 10.0? Any hints as where to look for? thanks, raffaele Hi raffaele, I have the exact same problem, did you find a solution ? Tomorrow, I'm gonna search the grip mailing list archive for more, I will let you know if I find anything. -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgp06YFauF2fu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
On Sunday 28 November 2004 11:47 pm, RickSisler wrote: Raffaele BELARDI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Subject line says it all... Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. What changed from 10.0? Any hints as where to look for? thanks, raffaele Hi raffaele, I have the exact same problem, did you find a solution ? Tomorrow, I'm gonna search the grip mailing list archive for more, I will let you know if I find anything. Grip is working fine here on a 10.1 install. Are you trying to use Grip's built in cdparanoia library or the system cdparanoia. If using cdparanoia from the command line gives the same result, it sounds like a problem with cdparamoia and not grip. Try switching to the grip cdparanoia. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:47, RickSisler wrote: Raffaele BELARDI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Subject line says it all... Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. What changed from 10.0? Any hints as where to look for? thanks, raffaele Hi raffaele, I have the exact same problem, did you find a solution ? Tomorrow, I'm gonna search the grip mailing list archive for more, I will let you know if I find anything. On one of the boxes here (running 10.0) I had to change the param in the kernel to force /dev/hdc=ide-scsi ; worked after that. Dunno if that will help... -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free - Reboot is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- In God we trust; all else we walk through. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sunday 28 November 2004 11:47 pm, RickSisler wrote: Raffaele BELARDI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. Hi raffaele, I have the exact same problem, did you find a solution ? Grip is working fine here on a 10.1 install. Are you trying to use Grip's built in cdparanoia library or the system cdparanoia. If using cdparanoia from the command line gives the same result, it sounds like a problem with cdparamoia and not grip. Try switching to the grip cdparanoia. -- /g Greg and Stephen, I was using Grip's builtin and so changed to the system cdparanoia with the same results. But it worked from cli with: $ cdparanoia -B -- -1 and sounded good. Thx for the help, I have to read more on cdparanoia,grip and lame. I will get back to ya tomorrow, must get some sleep 8) -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 pgpCOiOmK98K2.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] grip not ripping in 10.1
Subject line says it all... Grip did work in 10.0 (and in 9.0, 9.1 etc). Now it appears to rip the audio cd, but the wavs it produces contain only null bytes. Same result using the command-line cdparanoia. I can listen to the audio cds all right with grip, and also listen to mp3 with xmms. Only ripping is not working. What changed from 10.0? Any hints as where to look for? thanks, raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10
Hi Folks Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3? At the moment I've got the encoding setup to oggenc because all the others wont work :( Others tried are: gogo, mp3encode, xingmp3enc, l3enc, lame, bladeenc For mp3encode for example I've got the following settings Encoder Command Line: -p 2 -l 3 -b %b %w %m Encoder File Format: ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.ogg If it's encoding to MP3 surely the extention of the file format should be mp3 not ogg? The error message I get is Invalid Encoder Executable Check your encoder config Which is where I am stuck. Help! Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 06:10:20PM +0100, SME Server Admin wrote: Hi Folks Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3? At the moment I've got the encoding setup to oggenc because all the others wont work :( Others tried are: gogo, mp3encode, xingmp3enc, l3enc, lame, bladeenc For mp3encode for example I've got the following settings Encoder Command Line: -p 2 -l 3 -b %b %w %m Encoder File Format: ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.ogg If it's encoding to MP3 surely the extention of the file format should be mp3 not ogg? The error message I get is Invalid Encoder Executable Check your encoder config Which is where I am stuck. Help! Elwyn MandrakeSoft can't package mp3 encoders due to licensing restrictions, so you'll have to download and install an mp3 encoder like lame. If you add plf to your urpmi sources I think you can get lame and other mp3 encoders. If you don't need the tunes for a portable player, I'd recommend sticking with ogg anyway; it's better and free. Todd -- Name that tune #2: Turn up the Eagles the neighbors are listening. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10
On Sunday 18 Jul 2004 18:47, Todd Slater wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 06:10:20PM +0100, SME Server Admin wrote: Hi Folks Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3? MandrakeSoft can't package mp3 encoders due to licensing restrictions, so you'll have to download and install an mp3 encoder like lame. If you add plf to your urpmi sources I think you can get lame and other mp3 encoders. Ahh, I see :) Thanks for telling me... If you don't need the tunes for a portable player, I'd recommend sticking with ogg anyway; it's better and free. Todd Ok. Winamp can cope with OGG can't it?!? Down the line I'm planning on getting an iRiver HP 120/130/140 whatever and that does OGG Cheers Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10
On Sunday 18 July 2004 10:10 am, SME Server Admin wrote: Hi Folks Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3? At the moment I've got the encoding setup to oggenc because all the others wont work :( Others tried are: gogo, mp3encode, xingmp3enc, l3enc, lame, bladeenc For mp3encode for example I've got the following settings Encoder Command Line: -p 2 -l 3 -b %b %w %m Encoder File Format: ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.ogg If it's encoding to MP3 surely the extention of the file format should be mp3 not ogg? The error message I get is Invalid Encoder Executable Check your encoder config Which is where I am stuck. Help! Elwyn ! do you have lame installed if not do you have plf as a urpmi source if you do then as root # urpmi lame otherwise go to http://freshmeat.net/projects/lame/ and get the tarball afterinstalling run updatedb and update-menus (as root) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 23:16, David E. Fox wrote: Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle Isn't bladeenc old? lame comes highly recommended in case you are not using it, it's over at any plf mirror. ;) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- __ I'm pretty sure it's ancient. I've got some bladeenc stuff saved on some CD's from the mid to late 90's. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Beach! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
Good Morning LX! How's things? Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Saturday 16 August 2003 12:58 am, Dennis Myers wrote: Yes, and it shows nothing for error messages. Just putts along. I wonder if it is not my CDROM. It is an older 24X and maybe has a problem with DMA or something. What does hdparm show about it? Have you tried it with both DMA enabled and disabled? BTW, is it SCSI or IDE? Other possibilites - bad cable? If its IDE are your HD and CD on the same channel? (master/slave). Might want to change that if it is... Just some random thoughts. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:13 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 21:56, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 10:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA In grip, go to Config=Rip=Options and see if Delay before ripping is checked. I have to have this on or my DVDROM won't rip correctly. I believe that this setting spins the drive up before it starts trying to rip anything. Also, on the same page, what is the Rip 'nice' value? Ok, checked Delay and nice is at 0.the_king_has_lost_his_crown.wav Any difference? Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle What ripper are you using? Config=Rip=Ripper and it is now at 1.06% bleah! Kaudiocreator seems to work best for me at least for MP3s the encoder is lame Same thing happens in Kaudiocreator. I am going to change out the CDROM and see if that makes a dif. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Friday 15 August 2003 09:57 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA Thanks to all who helped. The process was a good learning experience. The solution was indeed to change the CDROM! I put in a newer 40X and it runs like a race car. All of the info provided by you guys helped in eliminating possibilities and I finally did the mechanical thing. Thanks Again. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle Isn't bladeenc old? lame comes highly recommended in case you are not using it, it's over at any plf mirror. ;) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress I haven't tried grip in a long time. I typically use cdparanoia and lame. I don't do a whole lot of cd copying / ripping though. I'm kinda doing the reverse :) mp3 to cd conversions. I suppose using grip would be helpful if you are trying to rip directly from the cd, without using any intermediate space for wav storage. I will mention konqueror audiocd:/ plugin since no one seems to have mentioned it. This is one slick puppy in the newer KDEs. konqueror and then select audio cd browser with a cd inserted into the drive. Then you can look at the cd's tracks individually as if they were files, and manipulate them, copy them, or even ogg / mp3. One thing you want to do is to copy the ogg's or mp3's off somewhere else, since konqueror stores them in its own internal temp structure directories, and if you navigate away, they're gone and you have to re-encode. Dennis M. linux user #180842 David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 10:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA In grip, go to Config=Rip=Options and see if Delay before ripping is checked. I have to have this on or my DVDROM won't rip correctly. I believe that this setting spins the drive up before it starts trying to rip anything. Also, on the same page, what is the Rip 'nice' value? Ok, checked Delay and nice is at 0.the_king_has_lost_his_crown.wav Any difference? Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle What ripper are you using? Config=Rip=Ripper and it is now at 1.06% bleah! -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:50 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 10:57 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA Dennis, that is so odd. I use Grip here, out of the box from my v9.1 install and its always worked great. Are there any error messages? Did you try starting it from a shell to see what it says? Yes, and it shows nothing for error messages. Just putts along. I wonder if it is not my CDROM. It is an older 24X and maybe has a problem with DMA or something. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 10:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA In grip, go to Config=Rip=Options and see if Delay before ripping is checked. I have to have this on or my DVDROM won't rip correctly. I believe that this setting spins the drive up before it starts trying to rip anything. Also, on the same page, what is the Rip 'nice' value? Ok, checked Delay and nice is at 0. Any difference? Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle What ripper are you using? Config=Rip=Ripper cdda2wav same happens with cdparanoia What kernel are you using? Maybe the old supermount is getting in the way. Have you tried manually mounting the drive ans then ripping? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkcustom KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 21:56, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 10:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA In grip, go to Config=Rip=Options and see if Delay before ripping is checked. I have to have this on or my DVDROM won't rip correctly. I believe that this setting spins the drive up before it starts trying to rip anything. Also, on the same page, what is the Rip 'nice' value? Ok, checked Delay and nice is at 0.the_king_has_lost_his_crown.wav Any difference? Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle What ripper are you using? Config=Rip=Ripper and it is now at 1.06% bleah! Kaudiocreator seems to work best for me at least for MP3s the encoder is lame Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:02, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Hi Dennis, I use RipperX exclusively on 9.1 without incident. I ams ure you have tried this but make sure notlame is set as the MP3 encoder in the config. Cheers Jason PS, also start both from the cli so you can see any returned error messages that may give us a clue. Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Actually it says lame is the encoder, but I assume that is correct. Mostly it just sits there with 15 minutes showing on the progress bar and 337min to go. This is so slow as to not be worth messing with. 5 hours for one CD? something is not working right. are you starting as root there are a couple of config files that it installs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
Hi Dennis, I use RipperX exclusively on 9.1 without incident. I ams ure you have tried this but make sure notlame is set as the MP3 encoder in the config. Cheers Jason PS, also start both from the cli so you can see any returned error messages that may give us a clue. Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
Yes, pull up a terminal and type ripperx Cheers Jason Aron Smith wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 15:15, Jason Greenwood wrote: Hi Dennis, I use RipperX exclusively on 9.1 without incident. I ams ure you have tried this but make sure notlame is set as the MP3 encoder in the config. Cheers Jason PS, also start both from the cli so you can see any returned error messages that may give us a clue. ** Any way I can run it without being root? Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Grip or RipperX
I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
First of all, I would like to thank you for all the time you spend to help me. Then the libghttp1-devel was required in order to rebuilt the rpm. Therefore, I installed all gnome libs and the window-manager. Then, the reinstallation of the rpm seemed to be successfull. But the problem remains. It's strange. It's a shame, but as cddb is now working, it could be worse ... John Richard Smith wrote: Is this a gnome desktop you are working on, because mine is full kde, with xWindows and the lot. I am also surprized you needed additional libraries, but then maybe, I ought not to be, it occures to me that I have the full OS including many developement packages, though not all , and maybe I have some dependency library installed already that you require to make the help file be meaningfull. I must say all these dependency problems in linux are tiresome, if they are needed , why not include them in the main download , saves time and trouble. There has got to be some reason why you don't get the helpfile, and I and others do. The difference must be either the choice of OS interface or some package or other that you have missing. Check out http://www.nostatic.org/grip/ I see mention of something called libghttp that sounds like a possible library help file try putting up package manager and doing a search to see if you have it. if not download and install it and see what it does. A search of my OS reveals a certain libghttp1-devel V1.0.9-4mdk. I'm guessing but I would not be supprised if you don't have it installed, and it has to be on our CD's somewhere for me to have it installed. In short , the problem now seems either to be the interface, which I would not rule out , since manuals, at least good ones,John are a judicious balance between words and pictures , maybe your desktop interface lacks something, but first off we need to find out if you have every possible app package installed. Unfortuneatly linux is a bit of a headache for newbies as far as dependencies go. we do not understand the relationships very well, and the way things are put together it can offten be baffelling try to find out. The website is the first port of call after thak maybe sourceforge or some place like that . villoing wrote: I just finnish from dowloading the .src.rpmp and I've rebuilt the rpm, installing some gnome library which were needed. Unfortunatly, Any links in the grip help menu is working (grrr). What could I do ??? Do I need to use gnome? (I'm currently under window maker) John Richard Smith wrote: Well , by virtue of the fact that I definately got a perfectly good help file manual with mine , yes. Do you know how to do an src.rpm compile ? if not, simple enough, just ownload the src.rpm file and put it in a directory all on it's own, I like to create a new directory, mkdir /pk then , cd /pk then, rpm --rebuild /grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm then look in , /usr/src/rpm/rpms/i586 rebuilt package will be there. John villoing wrote: The first version I installed was 3.0.1, rpm intalled by MK 9.0 cd rom. The rpm I use to upadate grip yesterday grip-3.0.3-1.i386.rpm. Should I have intalled the grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm one ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
Was yours an rpm or tar ball version, mine was rpm I built mine from src rpm's , namely grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm. John villoing wrote: Yes, it's quite strange... I have MK 9.0 and I 've upgrape grip to the 3.0.3 version. I've not still any link working int the help menu. Hopefully, I managed to fing the on-line doc, well built, I agree. It's a good start... John Richard Smith wrote: Now that is odd, are we talking Mandrake 9.0 standard install version, gripv3.0.0, because I have a superb manual on mine, a shining example of how good manual are constructed, only slight criticism I might have is that perhaps there were a few definitions missing, particularly technical terms that newbies may not be familiar with. otherwise I could not fault it. Are you sure. Though M8.2's grip does not have a help file I notice. John villoing wrote: Thanks John. But unfortunatly (or fortunatly ;-) ), I was obliged to write the title, authors ... Another question: in fact, the problem is that I'm obliged to ask it here because all the links in the help section in grip don't seem to work. So, no documenttation, no, howto, no faq. And I didn't find that on the net. What's going wrong ? John Richard Smith wrote: villoing wrote: How can I make informations contained in each track of a cd recognizeable by grip ? Which information do you mean. If you mean the name of the track, and performer, then log on to the net with something like kppp . click the tab in gript to let it compare your CD recognition number which is being read from the cdrom, with info listed on the website, it takes a few seconds or so and , when it has compared notes, the info will appear in grip. then save and that info is held in .cddb in your home directory. If per chance you don't get a response, then type the info from your cd case notes using the text editor provided, save, and also upload that info to the net via the tab in grip, then other will bennifit from your diligence , as you will benifit from their efforts in the past. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
The first version I installed was 3.0.1, rpm intalled by MK 9.0 cd rom. The rpm I use to upadate grip yesterday grip-3.0.3-1.i386.rpm. Should I have intalled the grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm one ? John Richard Smith wrote: Was yours an rpm or tar ball version, mine was rpm I built mine from src rpm's , namely grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm. John villoing wrote: Yes, it's quite strange... I have MK 9.0 and I 've upgrape grip to the 3.0.3 version. I've not still any link working int the help menu. Hopefully, I managed to fing the on-line doc, well built, I agree. It's a good start... John Richard Smith wrote: Now that is odd, are we talking Mandrake 9.0 standard install version, gripv3.0.0, because I have a superb manual on mine, a shining example of how good manual are constructed, only slight criticism I might have is that perhaps there were a few definitions missing, particularly technical terms that newbies may not be familiar with. otherwise I could not fault it. Are you sure. Though M8.2's grip does not have a help file I notice. John villoing wrote: Thanks John. But unfortunatly (or fortunatly ;-) ), I was obliged to write the title, authors ... Another question: in fact, the problem is that I'm obliged to ask it here because all the links in the help section in grip don't seem to work. So, no documenttation, no, howto, no faq. And I didn't find that on the net. What's going wrong ? John Richard Smith wrote: villoing wrote: How can I make informations contained in each track of a cd recognizeable by grip ? Which information do you mean. If you mean the name of the track, and performer, then log on to the net with something like kppp . click the tab in gript to let it compare your CD recognition number which is being read from the cdrom, with info listed on the website, it takes a few seconds or so and , when it has compared notes, the info will appear in grip. then save and that info is held in .cddb in your home directory. If per chance you don't get a response, then type the info from your cd case notes using the text editor provided, save, and also upload that info to the net via the tab in grip, then other will bennifit from your diligence , as you will benifit from their efforts in the past. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
Well , by virtue of the fact that I definately got a perfectly good help file manual with mine , yes. Do you know how to do an src.rpm compile ? if not, simple enough, just ownload the src.rpm file and put it in a directory all on it's own, I like to create a new directory, mkdir /pk then , cd /pk then, rpm --rebuild /grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm then look in , /usr/src/rpm/rpms/i586 rebuilt package will be there. John villoing wrote: The first version I installed was 3.0.1, rpm intalled by MK 9.0 cd rom. The rpm I use to upadate grip yesterday grip-3.0.3-1.i386.rpm. Should I have intalled the grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm one ? -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
I just finnish from dowloading the .src.rpmp and I've rebuilt the rpm, installing some gnome library which were needed. Unfortunatly, Any links in the grip help menu is working (grrr). What could I do ??? Do I need to use gnome? (I'm currently under window maker) John Richard Smith wrote: Well , by virtue of the fact that I definately got a perfectly good help file manual with mine , yes. Do you know how to do an src.rpm compile ? if not, simple enough, just ownload the src.rpm file and put it in a directory all on it's own, I like to create a new directory, mkdir /pk then , cd /pk then, rpm --rebuild /grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm then look in , /usr/src/rpm/rpms/i586 rebuilt package will be there. John villoing wrote: The first version I installed was 3.0.1, rpm intalled by MK 9.0 cd rom. The rpm I use to upadate grip yesterday grip-3.0.3-1.i386.rpm. Should I have intalled the grip-3.0.3-1.src.rpm one ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] grip
How can I make informations contained in each track of a cd recognizeable by grip ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
villoing wrote: How can I make informations contained in each track of a cd recognizeable by grip ? Which information do you mean. If you mean the name of the track, and performer, then log on to the net with something like kppp . click the tab in gript to let it compare your CD recognition number which is being read from the cdrom, with info listed on the website, it takes a few seconds or so and , when it has compared notes, the info will appear in grip. then save and that info is held in .cddb in your home directory. If per chance you don't get a response, then type the info from your cd case notes using the text editor provided, save, and also upload that info to the net via the tab in grip, then other will bennifit from your diligence , as you will benifit from their efforts in the past. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip
Now that is odd, are we talking Mandrake 9.0 standard install version, gripv3.0.0, because I have a superb manual on mine, a shining example of how good manual are constructed, only slight criticism I might have is that perhaps there were a few definitions missing, particularly technical terms that newbies may not be familiar with. otherwise I could not fault it. Are you sure. Though M8.2's grip does not have a help file I notice. John villoing wrote: Thanks John. But unfortunatly (or fortunatly ;-) ), I was obliged to write the title, authors ... Another question: in fact, the problem is that I'm obliged to ask it here because all the links in the help section in grip don't seem to work. So, no documenttation, no, howto, no faq. And I didn't find that on the net. What's going wrong ? John Richard Smith wrote: villoing wrote: How can I make informations contained in each track of a cd recognizeable by grip ? Which information do you mean. If you mean the name of the track, and performer, then log on to the net with something like kppp . click the tab in gript to let it compare your CD recognition number which is being read from the cdrom, with info listed on the website, it takes a few seconds or so and , when it has compared notes, the info will appear in grip. then save and that info is held in .cddb in your home directory. If per chance you don't get a response, then type the info from your cd case notes using the text editor provided, save, and also upload that info to the net via the tab in grip, then other will bennifit from your diligence , as you will benifit from their efforts in the past. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip
Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 07 Nov 2002 11:28 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Where does Grip store it's disc data base. I don't mean /home/.grip , which is a hidden config file. John ~/.cddb Thanks, Question, Is it possible that grip goes on the net passively, that is in the background , while you are on the net for some other reason, retrieves db and stores it, because until today, I don't consciously remember ever going on the net for db retrieval, yet cddb is full of data files.They got there somehow. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:52:51PM +, John Richard Smith wrote: Thanks, Question, Is it possible that grip goes on the net passively, that is in the background , while you are on the net for some other reason, retrieves db and stores it, because until today, I don't consciously remember ever going on the net for db retrieval, yet cddb is full of data files.They got there somehow. John I believe that's what it does. If you play a CD you've never played before and you're not connected to the Net, Grip won't be able to query the db server (mine uses freedb), and you should not get the track info. There's a setting for for it, and I believe you can have it not query the db. But then again, for all I know CDs may contain all that info that Grip can parse directly from the CD without connecting to a db. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:07:17AM -0500, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:52:51PM +, John Richard Smith wrote: Thanks, Question, Is it possible that grip goes on the net passively, that is in the background , while you are on the net for some other reason, retrieves db and stores it, because until today, I don't consciously remember ever going on the net for db retrieval, yet cddb is full of data files.They got there somehow. John I believe that's what it does. If you play a CD you've never played before and you're not connected to the Net, Grip won't be able to query the db server (mine uses freedb), and you should not get the track info. There's a setting for for it, and I believe you can have it not query the db. But then again, for all I know CDs may contain all that info that Grip can parse directly from the CD without connecting to a db. I just read man grip and it does query a db. You can start it with -l option and it won't query the db, or in config you can uncheck Perform CDDB lookup automatically. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip
On Thursday 07 Nov 2002 2:52 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 07 Nov 2002 11:28 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Where does Grip store it's disc data base. I don't mean /home/.grip , which is a hidden config file. John ~/.cddb Thanks, Question, Is it possible that grip goes on the net passively, that is in the background , while you are on the net for some other reason, retrieves db and stores it, because until today, I don't consciously remember ever going on the net for db retrieval, yet cddb is full of data files.They got there somehow. John Every time grip (or kscd or xmms) reads a CD it compares the CD id number with the local database. (Unfortunately despite the databases being the same, all three products use a different database location) If the number is not in the database, and the computer is online, then they will (if configured) look up the CD number in the freedb online database, and automatically save it in the local database. They do not read the inter-track data to get the track info since they would need the cdrdao library (I think) to do that, and none of them use that library. BTW: kscd keeps its CD data base in /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb which is a pretty dumb location. Users do not have write permission to that directory, so to use it you have to change attributes, and then msec starts complaining about world writable files in that directory. Another issue is that when you upgrade your KDE or distro, your CD database gets erased. A better idea is to change the location using KDE control Centre. You can in fact use the same location as grip, since they both have exactly the same database format. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip
Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 07 Nov 2002 2:52 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 07 Nov 2002 11:28 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Where does Grip store it's disc data base. I don't mean /home/.grip , which is a hidden config file. John ~/.cddb Thanks, Question, Is it possible that grip goes on the net passively, that is in the background , while you are on the net for some other reason, retrieves db and stores it, because until today, I don't consciously remember ever going on the net for db retrieval, yet cddb is full of data files.They got there somehow. John Every time grip (or kscd or xmms) reads a CD it compares the CD id number with the local database. (Unfortunately despite the databases being the same, all three products use a different database location) If the number is not in the database, and the computer is online, then they will (if configured) look up the CD number in the freedb online database, and automatically save it in the local database. They do not read the inter-track data to get the track info since they would need the cdrdao library (I think) to do that, and none of them use that library. derek It seems then, that is the answer to it, what I thought was clever old Grip reading my cd for db and storing it, was nothing of the sort it's a cleaver little number that stores a new cd 's disc recognition signature and as you say if you happen to be on the net it looks it up and if your not, it waits for some other time and passivly does the job for you while your doing something else on the net. That is just fine by me. Hell why should I object.That's what I want and it explains why my new M9.0 doesn't want to display db , that is until I update ~/.cddb. Thanks for your help, nothing wrong , I just non't like mysteries. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Grip ... gain adjustment
hello, thanks for the help with the lame encoder, it worked fine and twice as fast as ogg. the sound levels are low though and i read through the help manual for grip and they talked about gain adjustment in the config/rip window. i find this a bit confusing, setting gain with the outlined switches. does anybody know how i can set it so the volume levels are higher? thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grip problems - playing cds in lm 8.0 with cooker upgrades
Just a hunch, but try having a look at the cd with CDToaster (I think it's a Gnome app...) Richie On Friday 24 August 2001 15:15, bascule wrote: i have a feeling that my problem may not be linux per se but i would be gratefull for any insights... i have lm 8.0 (freq3 plus cooker kde2.2) if i try to play my copy of pomegranate by heidi berry in grip it just cycles through the track titles and doesn't play anything, the cd is brand new and plays fine in kcd (or whatever it's called these days), this means that i can't rip the tracks to mp3 either and that's annoying, the thing is though that my new primitives cd plays and rips fine in grip so it must be set up right, further investigation show that the heidi berry cd is an 'enhanced cd' and i'm thinking that the data track may be first on the cd and confusing grip but not kcd, so, two questions: 1. how in linux, do i see a list of tracktypes and their order? 2. anyone know how i might get grip to work in this case? bascule Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] grip problems - playing cds in lm 8.0 with cooker upgrades
i have a feeling that my problem may not be linux per se but i would be gratefull for any insights... i have lm 8.0 (freq3 plus cooker kde2.2) if i try to play my copy of pomegranate by heidi berry in grip it just cycles through the track titles and doesn't play anything, the cd is brand new and plays fine in kcd (or whatever it's called these days), this means that i can't rip the tracks to mp3 either and that's annoying, the thing is though that my new primitives cd plays and rips fine in grip so it must be set up right, further investigation show that the heidi berry cd is an 'enhanced cd' and i'm thinking that the data track may be first on the cd and confusing grip but not kcd, so, two questions: 1. how in linux, do i see a list of tracktypes and their order? 2. anyone know how i might get grip to work in this case? bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Grip
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had to download xmms-vorbis to get oggs to play on my mdk8 system and I checked both disks for it first. Thought you'd like to know cuz of your website! Ogg Vorbis playback support is inside xmms main package: [gc@obiwan ~] rpm -qpl /RPMS/xmms-1.2.4-12mdk.i586.rpm | grep vorbis /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libvorbis.la /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libvorbis.so [...] I'm not sure of the exact numbers as far as size/bit rate goes between mp3 and ogg but if you look at http://www.vorbis.com I bet you can find that info. What I do know is that every mp3 I've ever heard sounded hollow to me like all the midrange had been scooped out. Ogg's sound full and rich and the highest quality gives small enough files that I don't have to trade off between free space on disk and sound quality. Quality between ogg and mp3 is smaller than that. Generally speaking, a 160 kbps mp3 is considered to be perfect quality, whereas this can be achieved with a 128 kbps ogg. [...] make mp3's using bladeenc I did expert install too, and my grip default was ogg and the bladeenc prog isn't even on either of my cd's (inst or ext) and my md5 sums checked...go figure! Of course. There are patent issues with mp3 encoding, including with bladeenc. We can't distribute it. [...] Xmms should play .oggs by the way. There is an xmms-ogg-vorbis package on the cd's that you can install to make it work. I know it should however there is no xmms-ogg-vorbis package on either of my cd's As said upper, no need to install a specific package to get ogg vorbis playback support in xmms. [...] I know that mp3 encoding at 128 Kbps uses@1meg/minute. How do oggs compare?? x kbps means x times 1024 bits per second. [gc@obiwan ~] ruby -e 'p 1024*60*128/8/1024' 960 128 kbps uses 960 kbytes per minute. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [newbie] Grip
Thanks! I've got the xmms-vorbis plugin now, but had all the other files already installed. I could encode guess it's harder to unscramble oggs than to...anyway, I wholeheartedly oggree that the audio quality is superior. Way better in fact! On Wednesday 25 April 2001 01:22 pm, you wrote: oggenc here's the list of files you need installed to make .ogg's libogg0-1.0-0.beta4.1mdk.i686.rpm libogg0-devel-1.0-0.beta4.1mdk.i686.rpm libvorbis0-1.0-0.beta4.1mdk.i686.rpm libvorbis0-devel-1.0-0.beta4.1mdk.i686.rpm vorbis-tools-1.0-0.beta4.2mdk.i686.rpm I'm pretty sure there is an xmms plugin that you need to but I can't find it installed on my system and I'm listening to a .ogg right now so Ogg-Vorbis home page is here: http://www.vorbis.com/ enjoy and feel free to email if you have any questions. Oh yea I almost forgot, the files above will be i586 on the install cd's. I rebuilt em from source. Abe --- Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: abram olson escribió: I immediately changed it to make .oggs cause they sound better and are about the same size as mp3's. What program are you using to make .oggs ?? 8-? Thanks! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Grip
that is really weird! I've done four installs of mandrake 8 so far and they have all been subtely different. I did a recommended install on my brothers machine and it yielded a system that was windows for all intents and purposes. I'm not sure of the exact numbers as far as size/bit rate goes between mp3 and ogg but if you look at http://www.vorbis.com I bet you can find that info. What I do know is that every mp3 I've ever heard sounded hollow to me like all the midrange had been scooped out. Ogg's sound full and rich and the highest quality gives small enough files that I don't have to trade off between free space on disk and sound quality. Abe --- michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 April 2001 21:07, you wrote: I did an expert install of 8.0 and grip was setup to make mp3's using bladeenc I did expert install too, and my grip default was ogg and the bladeenc prog isn't even on either of my cd's (inst or ext) and my md5 sums checked...go figure! I immediately changed it to make .oggs cause they sound better and are about the same size as mp3's. Xmms should play .oggs by the way. There is an xmms-ogg-vorbis package on the cd's that you can install to make it work. I know it should however there is no xmms-ogg-vorbis package on either of my cd's Give em a try. I've got 40 full albums in .ogg format (highest quality levels too) and they take up about 2.5 gigs. I know that mp3 encoding at 128 Kbps uses@1meg/minute. How do oggs compare?? Abe --- Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael wrote: I just spent half an hour using grip to grip some mp3's. 8.0 fresh install. Right. The mp3 directory created has all these .ogg files, all of uniform size (128) and unplayable on xmms. The only thing I changed from the stock 128 is the bitrate it was recorded at. setup was the encoding bitrate under configmp3options. The default configuration comes set to create oggvorbis (sp?). Change the encoder to lame or bladeenc and change the name to .mp3 and see how it works. You will undoubtedly have to install the rpms yourself. lame is included on CD2, but bladeenc is on neither CD (in my quick search...I might have overlooked it). -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Grip
I did an expert install of 8.0 and grip was setup to make mp3's using bladeenc I immediately changed it to make .oggs cause they sound better and are about the same size as mp3's. Xmms should play .oggs by the way. There is an xmms-ogg-vorbis package on the cd's that you can install to make it work. Give em a try. I've got 40 full albums in .ogg format (highest quality levels too) and they take up about 2.5 gigs. Abe --- Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael wrote: I just spent half an hour using grip to grip some mp3's. 8.0 fresh install. Right. The mp3 directory created has all these .ogg files, all of uniform size (128) and unplayable on xmms. The only thing I changed from the stock 128 is the bitrate it was recorded at. setup was the encoding bitrate under configmp3options. The default configuration comes set to create oggvorbis (sp?). Change the encoder to lame or bladeenc and change the name to .mp3 and see how it works. You will undoubtedly have to install the rpms yourself. lame is included on CD2, but bladeenc is on neither CD (in my quick search...I might have overlooked it). -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Grip - CD ripper/encoder - problem solved
I solved the problem with grip (version 2.9) - it was only recording 3/4 of the song and then quitting. It was using "cdda2wav" for the rip and "lame" for the mp3 encoding - I changed the configuration of grip to use "bladeenc", instead of "lame" (had to install bladeenc first); now it rips and encodes the whole song easily. Guess it was just a lame problem (heh). Chip Rose. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
