Re: [newbie] Urpmi update problem.

2005-04-03 Thread Mr. Geek
Simon wrote:
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 20:52, Mr. Geek wrote:

Simon; You have to uninstall libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf and
possibly ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf before you can install the
newer version of both packages using;
urpme ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf
which should also remove the old libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf in
the process. It will probably ask you if that's OK. What I don't know is
if anything else will need removal at the same time, but again it should
ask.
Once that's done repeat the first command to install the newer versions.

That's great, all done. Thanks for your help.
Simon.
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Re: [newbie] Urpmi update problem.

2005-04-03 Thread Simon
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 20:52, Mr. Geek wrote:


> Simon; You have to uninstall libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf and
> possibly ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf before you can install the
> newer version of both packages using;
>
> urpme ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf
>
> which should also remove the old libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf in
> the process. It will probably ask you if that's OK. What I don't know is
> if anything else will need removal at the same time, but again it should
> ask.
>
> Once that's done repeat the first command to install the newer versions.

That's great, all done. Thanks for your help.
Simon.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi adding resources

2005-03-20 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 01:31, Mr. Geek wrote:
> Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > I looked at the Twiki for instructions how to add resources and followed
> > them, but failed to add Thacs RPMs.  I'm wondering if I have used the
> > command incorrectly.
> >
> > urpmi.addmedia nameofmedia http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/
> > with ../base/hdlist.cz
> >
> > Am I supposed to name the media maybe?
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rosemary
>
> Rosemary; You're command was a bit off. This one below should work fine.
> Remember that there's a space between 'RPMS/' and 'with'.
>
> urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/
> with hdlist.cz


Ah - thank you.  That makes sense. I'll do that.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi adding resources

2005-03-20 Thread Mr. Geek
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
I looked at the Twiki for instructions how to add resources and followed them, 
but failed to add Thacs RPMs.  I'm wondering if I have used the command 
incorrectly.

urpmi.addmedia nameofmedia http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ 
with ../base/hdlist.cz

Am I supposed to name the media maybe?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Rosemary
Rosemary; You're command was a bit off. This one below should work fine. 
Remember that there's a space between 'RPMS/' and 'with'.

urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/
with hdlist.cz
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[newbie] urpmi adding resources

2005-03-20 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
I looked at the Twiki for instructions how to add resources and followed them, 
but failed to add Thacs RPMs.  I'm wondering if I have used the command 
incorrectly.

urpmi.addmedia nameofmedia http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ 
with ../base/hdlist.cz

Am I supposed to name the media maybe?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks
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[newbie] Urpmi TWiki out of date

2005-03-19 Thread hackhound
Greetings,
  I was just looking at the Urpmi TWiki at
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi and It says to
copy the base/ and Mandrake/ directories to a foler you create on the
hard drive.  My CDs (10.1) do not have these two folders, which leads
me to believe the TWiki is out of date.  My question is, which folders
should I copy over?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm

2005-03-16 Thread Graham
Steven Carrie wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list.
I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker 
source. 
Can't locate URPM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. BEGIN 
failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm 
line 16. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. BEGIN 
failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22.


The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to 
open MCC fails.

 

I had a similar problem and fixed it by removing the perl packages from 
cooker and re-installing the perl packages from an 'update' source.
worked for me. HTH.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm

2005-03-15 Thread Mr. Geek
Steven Carrie wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list.
I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker 
source.  So I updated my urpmi sources and began to install.  Shortly into 
the process the power failed because my PSU has gone dodgy. Now when I try 
anything with urpmi, I get the following error.

The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to 
open MCC fails.

In /usr/lib/perl5 are directories for 5.8.5 and 5.8.6, the file urpm.pm 
does not exist as far as I can see.

So the big question!  Can I fix this or will I have to make a fresh 
install?  Any help you can offer is much appreciated.

Steven Carrie
Steven; Been there, done that. You're looking at a fresh install from my 
experience. It took me about 2 hours to find out that I could have 
re-installed faster then fixing the problem.

Your problem occurred because urpmi tried to upgrade Perl, which is 
required for urpmi as well as MCC and a whack of other apps.

It will be a lot less painful and faster to re-install. Just make sure 
that you don't let the installer touch your /home partition. It's OK if 
it wants to create a mount point for it, but that should be all.

Hope that helps. I can sympathize with your situation since I went 
through the same thing. Good luck.

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[newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm

2005-03-15 Thread Steven Carrie
Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list.

I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker 
source.  So I updated my urpmi sources and began to install.  Shortly into 
the process the power failed because my PSU has gone dodgy. Now when I try 
anything with urpmi, I get the following error.


Can't locate URPM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. BEGIN 
failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm 
line 16. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. BEGIN 
failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22.



The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to 
open MCC fails.

In /usr/lib/perl5 are directories for 5.8.5 and 5.8.6, the file urpm.pm 
does not exist as far as I can see.

So the big question!  Can I fix this or will I have to make a fresh 
install?  Any help you can offer is much appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-15 Thread Julie Sloan
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:49 am, Smiley wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800
>
> Amy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can find information and directions on
> > how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/
> >
> > He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs
> > that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors.
>
> Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but
> another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms
> in which you can find 1.0.1


thank you, I'm adding norlug now  :)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-15 Thread Julie Sloan
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 01:06 am, Amy wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new
> > -1.0.1. 
>
>
> I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work,
> but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of
> people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the
> easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use
> Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on
> how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/


thank you Amy I do have Charles set up as a source but I am running Mdk10.0

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Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-15 Thread Smiley
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800
Amy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can find information and directions on
> how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/
> 
> He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs
> that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors.

Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but
another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms
in which you can find 1.0.1
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Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-14 Thread Amy
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1.
> I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its
> location as
> http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/
> but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an
> urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0.  What did I do
> wrong?  Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the
> -1.0-1 rpm or is there another way?
> 
> ty
> 
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I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work,
but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of
people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the
easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use
Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on
how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/

He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs
that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors.

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[newbie] urpmi firefox

2005-03-14 Thread Julie Sloan

when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1.  
I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its 
location as 
http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/
but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an 
urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0.  What did I do 
wrong?  Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the 
-1.0-1 rpm or is there another way?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found PROBLEM SOLVED

2005-03-13 Thread joe
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly 
in a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or 
when you "su -" to root. Normaly, when you do "su" instead of "su -", 
you keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a 
shell, the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want 
to check the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct.

Mikkel 
Problem solved!
Never used "su -" before, but when I did,  echo $PATH reported:
/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
URPMI works (again). \
Thanks to all for the help.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
joe wrote:
RickSisler wrote:
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

bascule wrote:
  

have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels

[EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
  
Joe,
the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type::
#> echo $PATH
I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to
it.
  
if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc ..
 


did you try what bascule mentions:
 

try the full path to urpmi
#> /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.
The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or 
how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.

Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
echo $PATH
/usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin 


The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly in 
a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or when 
you "su -" to root. Normaly, when you do "su" instead of "su -", you 
keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a shell, 
the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want to check 
the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-13 Thread RickSisler
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> RickSisler wrote:
> >did you try what bascule mentions:
> >>>try the full path to urpmi
> >>>#> /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
> >>>
>
> I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.
>
> The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or
> how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.
>
>
> Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
> echo $PATH
> /usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools
> :/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
> :/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin
Joe,
why do you have fcrozat settings I wonder ? I wouldn't think a rpm
package would bring that in ? is your username fcrozat ?
or do you have a user named fcrozat ?
did you type echo $PATH from a root login ? which you did before but
I am just confirming it .. something sounds strange here ..
GNUstep is for LSB compliance, I think, can someone conform this ?

What version of mdk are you using ? 10.1 ?
(I mis-spoke myself about /etc/bashrc, mine is customized. And I
typed from my user's PATH, which is different than root's, sorry)

On my other system, which is not custom but a fresh install,
root's .bashrc is also setting the $PATH
PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin

Then
/etc/profile seems to add /usr/X11R6/bin and /usr/games

A look in rc.sysinit (which is a symlink to /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) for the
global path statements, verifing these lines:
rc.sysinit: # Set the path
rc.sysinit: PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin

you have these in your posted path, *except* /usr/sbin/
Verify that it is missing in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file, if so,
add it, reboot and you should be back on track.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-12 Thread joe
RickSisler wrote:
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

bascule wrote:
   

have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
   

Joe,
the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type::
#> echo $PATH
I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to
it.
   

if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc ..
 


did you try what bascule mentions:
 

try the full path to urpmi
#> /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.
The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or 
how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.

Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
echo $PATH
/usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin
I had a look at /etc/bashrc, it's not really well documented (at least i 
had trouble following it). Here it is if anyone is interested:

# /etc/bashrc
# System wide functions and aliases
# Environment stuff goes in /etc/profile
# by default, we want this to get set.
# Even for non-interactive, non-login shells.
if [ "`id -gn`" = "`id -un`" -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then
   umask 002
else
   umask 022
fi
# are we an interactive shell?
if [ "$PS1" ]; then
   case $TERM in
   xterm*)
   PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007"'
   ;;
   *)
   ;;
   esac
   [ "$PS1" = "\\s-\\v\\\$ " ] && PS1="[EMAIL PROTECTED] \W]\\$ "
  
   if [ -z "$loginsh" ]; then # We're not a login shell
   for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
   if [ -x $i ]; then
   . $i
   fi
   done
   fi
fi

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-12 Thread RickSisler
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> bascule wrote:
>
> >have you checked your path?
> >echo $PATH
> >try the full path to urpmi
> >/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
> >
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
Joe,
the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type::

#> echo $PATH
/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:
/usr/games:/usr/lib/jre-1.4.2_05/bin:/home/ricks/bin:/home/ricks/scripts

> I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to
> it.
if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc ..

did you try what bascule mentions:
>> try the full path to urpmi
>> #> /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-12 Thread joe
bascule wrote:
have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/sbin/urpmi
urpmi version 4.5
Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Mandrakesoft.
This is free software and may be redistributed under the terms of the 
GNU GPL.

usage:
 --help - print this help message.
I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to it.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-11 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:47:16 -0700
joe disseminated the following:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels
> bash: urpmi: command not found

Did you try 'urpmi urpmi'?


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-11 Thread Adrian Coman
maybe you su from one user ... try "su - ", urpmi is not available for 
normal users.

joe wrote:
Anyone have an idea why urpmi stopped working? Mandrake 10.1 official. 
Been using it sucsessfully for quite a while now.  urpmi shows up in  
rpmdrake, I apparently sucessfully (re)-installed it. Yet i get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels
bash: urpmi: command not found

Googling has thus far been unenlightening.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-11 Thread SnapafunFrank
Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 10 March 2005 10:56 pm, Tahir Abdullah wrote:
 

Thanks Aron
When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error
comes urpmi database locked
WHat is this problem.
   

a reboot will fix this (inelegent  and there is probably a better way)
 

The second problem is whenever I send mail from my  hotmail. It goes twice
How can I fix it?
   

best solution is to not use hotmail
but  leaving the reply to field blank usually works
 

I appreciate any guidance.
Thanks
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urpmi will be locked if it is in use ~ possibly still trying to contact 
one of your media sites which is not responding.

"Google" ( I prefer www.vivisimo.com ) for urpmi.unlock and install it ~ 
you may already have it ~ try 'urpmi.unlock' at the root prompt.

If not you may need to manually download it and install it using rpm -Uvh .
Unless you are doing a kernel rebuild there is no need to reboot your 
system ~ you will learn more by fixing such problems by working through 
them and you'll find that there are many here that will always assist, 
especially is you give details to your problems.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-11 Thread Margot
Tahir Abdullah wrote:
Thanks Aron
When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error 
comes
urpmi database locked
WHat is this problem.

This usually happens after failed or interrupted download/installation. 
To cure it, as root in terminal:

rm /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK
and
rm /var/lib/urpmi/.RPMLOCK
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Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-10 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 10 March 2005 10:56 pm, Tahir Abdullah wrote:
> Thanks Aron
> When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error
> comes urpmi database locked
> WHat is this problem.
a reboot will fix this (inelegent  and there is probably a better way)
> The second problem is whenever I send mail from my  hotmail. It goes twice
> How can I fix it?
best solution is to not use hotmail
but  leaving the reply to field blank usually works
> I appreciate any guidance.
> Thanks
> Tahir
>
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[newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-10 Thread Tahir Abdullah
Thanks Aron
When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes
urpmi database locked
WHat is this problem.
The second problem is whenever I send mail from my  hotmail. It goes twice 
How can I fix it?
I appreciate any guidance.
Thanks
Tahir

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[newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-10 Thread Tahir Abdullah
Thanks Aron
When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes
urpmi database locked
WHat is this problem.
The second problem is whenever I send mail from my  hotmail. It goes twice 
How can I fix it?
I appreciate any guidance.
Thanks
Tahir

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-10 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Friday 11 March 2005 12:02 pm, bascule wrote:
> have you checked your path?
> echo $PATH
> try the full path to urpmi
> /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
>
> bascule
>
> On Friday 11 Mar 2005 03:47, joe wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels
> > bash: urpmi: command not found

Also try locate it by hand:
locate urpmi
You might need to run the updatedb command first.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-10 Thread bascule
have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels

bascule

On Friday 11 Mar 2005 03:47, joe wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels
> bash: urpmi: command not found

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[newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-10 Thread joe
Anyone have an idea why urpmi stopped working? Mandrake 10.1 official. 
Been using it sucsessfully for quite a while now.  urpmi shows up in  
rpmdrake, I apparently sucessfully (re)-installed it. Yet i get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels
bash: urpmi: command not found

Googling has thus far been unenlightening.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!

2005-03-06 Thread Margot
JR wrote:
when I do urpmi --fuzzy , it sometimes downloads the package anyway, 
without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to 
be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was 
only one)

Jarlath

urpmi --fuzzy  *does* automatically download the package if 
there is only one matching. If you only want to see what is available, 
but not download, you should use

urpmq --fuzzy 
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Re: [newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Sunday 06 March 2005 3:25 pm, JR wrote:
> when I do urpmi --fuzzy , it sometimes downloads the package
> anyway, without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I
> expected to be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even
> if there was only one)

If there is only one match, it will try to d/l it for you. I usually just 
press ctl-c to kill it, but you can run --test to not allow it to upload 
anything.

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[newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!

2005-03-06 Thread JR
when I do urpmi --fuzzy , it sometimes downloads the package anyway, 
without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to 
be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was 
only one)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi query

2005-03-06 Thread Graham Watkins
JoeHill wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:35:28 +
Graham Watkins disseminated the following:

I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow.  What 
do I have to do to get it put right?

Well, this may not be the 'best' sol'n, but try removing and adding the source
again. I had to do this a little while ago because apparently something had
changed on his end.
Did it.  It appears to have done the trick.  Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi query

2005-03-06 Thread SnapafunFrank
Graham Watkins wrote:
Hi Y'all,
Recently, while attempting to 'urpmi' a new program, I got the 
following  message at the command line:

unable to access hdlist file of "eslrahc", medium ignored
I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow.  What 
do I have to do to get it put right?

cheers,
If I were to see this , this is what I would attempt first:
1. # urpmi.removemedia eslrahc
2. I would then browse to Charles site www.eslrahc.com and click on your 
actual distribution version. At the top of the page is the suggested 
link for adding eslrahc back onto you urpmi . but read on first.

Though mine is Mandrake 10 and would look like this :
urpmi.addmedia eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ with hdlist.cz
I would add the switches ' c ' and ' f ' like so :
urpmi.addmedia -c -f eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ with hdlist.cz
I have found that when I have any problems with any particular media, 
this way seems to always put things right.

Using the two switches as above as become standard practice for me when 
I update my own onboard downloaded rpm directory because it doesn't have 
a hlist to start with.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi query

2005-03-05 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:35:28 +
Graham Watkins disseminated the following:

> I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow.  What 
> do I have to do to get it put right?

Well, this may not be the 'best' sol'n, but try removing and adding the source
again. I had to do this a little while ago because apparently something had
changed on his end.

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[newbie] urpmi query

2005-03-04 Thread Graham Watkins
Hi Y'all,
Recently, while attempting to 'urpmi' a new program, I got the following 
 message at the command line:

unable to access hdlist file of "eslrahc", medium ignored
I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow.  What 
do I have to do to get it put right?

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Re: [newbie] URPMI help

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 04 March 2005 09:58 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Friday 04 March 2005 14:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

> Did you click the "Proceed to step2" button before selecting your sources?

Hmm, I thought that I did - maybe I got in a hurry and missed it (multiple 
times - shaking head at self). I'll go try it again.

> I just tried it and it works.
>
> BTW: The page is quite pretty now isn't it?
> derek

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Re: [newbie] URPMI help

2005-03-04 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 16:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at:
> 
> http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
> 
> and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter 
> how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always 
> displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I 
> want.
> 
> So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command 
> once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always 
> searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out.
> 
> So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing 
> the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-(
> 
> 

Go to the sites mentioned in easyurpmi in any browser and go up a
directory. Choose 9.2 and use edit the command you get in easyurpmi
accordingly.

e.g. easy urpmi gives 

urpmi.addmedia plf-free ftp://mandrake.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/plf/free/10.1
with synthesis.hdlist.cz

a visit to this site gives the 9.2 command as:

urpmi.addmedia plf-free
ftp://mandrake.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/plf/free/9.2/i586/ with
../synthesis.hdlist.cz

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Re: [newbie] URPMI help

2005-03-04 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 04 March 2005 14:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at:
>
> http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
>
> and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no
> matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use,
> it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2
> is what I want.
>
> So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the
> command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it
> always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out.
>
> So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-)
>
> Thanks.
>
> PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by
> changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-(


Did you click the "Proceed to step2" button before selecting your sources?

I just tried it and it works.

BTW: The page is quite pretty now isn't it?
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Re: [newbie] URPMI help

2005-03-04 Thread Dan Gordon
On March 4, 2005 09:48 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at:
>
> http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
>
> and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but
> no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which
> site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n
> paste section, when 9.2 is what I want.
>
> So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in
> the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple
> times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its
> thing and quits out.
>
> So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-)

Sounds like the servers are no longer holding 9.2

>
> PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by
> changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-(

I don't think plf is kept on the same servers.  I could be wrong

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[newbie] URPMI help

2005-03-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at:

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter 
how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always 
displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I 
want.

So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command 
once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always 
searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out.

So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-)

Thanks.

PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing 
the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-(



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Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Julie Sloan
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 07:02 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Thursday 24 February 2005 06:56 am, Aron Smith wrote:
> > > Use the --noclean switch.  The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms.
>
> Oh boy, I wish I knew it before :(


Me too.  Only 952Mb to go at 56Kbps

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Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thursday 24 February 2005 06:56 am, Aron Smith wrote:
> > Use the --noclean switch.  The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms.

Oh boy, I wish I knew it before :(

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Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Aron Smith
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:35 pm, N. B. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if
> > I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to
> > download for hours?
> >
> > thanks
> > Julie
>
> Use the --noclean switch.  The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms.
>
> I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone
> lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would
> be expensive.  I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with
> "urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget" and then make a cd with
> the updates that I can carry up the bayou.  Once there, I copy to the
> hard disk, define a source like "urpmi.addmedia rpms101
> file:///root/rpms101" and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it
> since defining it) and then just "urpmi --auto-select" does the update.
>
> Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've
> used for this situation.
hey Boudeaux why no updates 
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>
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Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Julie Sloan
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 03:35 pm, N. B. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that
> > if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without
> > having to download for hours?
> >
> > thanks
> > Julie
>
> Use the --noclean switch.  The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms.
>
> I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone
> lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would
> be expensive.  I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with
> "urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget" and then make a cd with
> the updates that I can carry up the bayou.  Once there, I copy to the
> hard disk, define a source like "urpmi.addmedia rpms101
> file:///root/rpms101" and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it
> since defining it) and then just "urpmi --auto-select" does the update.
>
> Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've
> used for this situation.
>
> HTH


Thank you so very much.  Also for the speed of your reply.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?

2005-02-23 Thread N. B. Day
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Hi all,
> is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I 
> need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to 
> download for hours?
> 
> thanks
> Julie

Use the --noclean switch.  The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms.  

I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone
lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would
be expensive.  I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with
"urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget" and then make a cd with
the updates that I can carry up the bayou.  Once there, I copy to the
hard disk, define a source like "urpmi.addmedia rpms101
file:///root/rpms101" and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it
since defining it) and then just "urpmi --auto-select" does the update.

Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've
used for this situation.  

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[newbie] urpmi backups to disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Julie Sloan

Hi all,
is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I 
need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to 
download for hours?

thanks
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[newbie] URPMI Issue??

2005-02-08 Thread Hugh Crissman
When I try to install something via urpmi I get the follwoing error?

"error: failed to stat /home/data_on_wxps1: Input/output error"

Now, /home/data_... is an old local directory that I had a rpm dir. mirrored 
to. Since then I have changed the dir where I rsync rpms to. I also updated 
all the media but it is still looking for the old dir? I can't figure out 
where or why it is still looking for this directory. urpmi still works, it is 
just really slow? urpmi -clean did not fix this issue?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)

2005-02-06 Thread Stuart R. Fuller
On Friday 04 February 2005 11:22 am, Paul wrote:
> I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system.
>
> Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its
> not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it.
>
> I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect.

When posting questions such as this, posting the exact commands entered and 
the exact messages returned is extrememly helpful, and helps eliminate a lot 
of guessing on the part of well-meaning people.


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Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)

2005-02-04 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 14:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 04 February 2005 04:47 pm, Paul wrote:
> > On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:27, Aron Smith wrote:
> > > On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote:
> > > > I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system.
> > > >
> > > > Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me
> > > > its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it.
> > > >
> > > > I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect.
> > >
> > > did you run (as root) updatedb ?
> >
> > yes, still no joy.
> 
> Paul, do you use KDE? If so, use the GUI manager for urpmi, and *if* you can 
> find the package in question listed, in either remove or install, look at the 
> file listing in the right plane. You might be able to use that list, to go 
> see if the files are actually there, and delete all of them, then start over 
> trying to install it.
> 
> Good luck.

Thanks, Ronald, using MCC gimp2 shows up in neither add nor remove
software searches, even though I can see other programs from the same
source (a 10.1 DVD)- which means that that source is recognised.

Really confused by this.





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Re: [newbie] Urpmi advice needed (2)

2005-02-04 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:35, Avi Schwartz wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> 
> >After looking at the wiki, I found the command rpm -Va and applied it.
> >Part of the output is as follows (to provide an example only)
> >
> >S.5T   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1
> >missing/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/encodings.dir
> >S.5T c /etc/hotplug/blacklist
> >.M.. c /etc/init.d/hotplug
> >S.5T   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/fonts.cache-1
> >
> >
> >'missing' is obvious, but what are the others (e.g. S.5T)?
> >
> I don't remember where I copied this from but it goes:
> 
> Verifying installed files vs. rpm:
> 
> rpm -v package_name
> 
>  When verifying a package, RPM produces output only  if there is a 
> verification failure. When a file fails verification, the format of the 
> output is a bit cryptic, but it packs all the information you need into 
> one line per file. Here is the format:
> 
> SM5DLUGT c 
>
> 
> Where:
> 
> *S is the file size.
> *M is the file's mode.
> *5 is the MD5 checksum of the file.
> *D is the file's major and minor numbers.
> *L is the file's symbolic link contents.
> *U is owner of the file.
> *G is the file's group.
> *T is the modification time of the file.
> *c appears only if the file is a configuration file. This is 
> handy for quickly identifying config files, as they are very likely to 
> change, and therefore, very unlikely to verify successfully.
> * is the file that failed verification. The complete path 
> is listed to make it easy to find.
> 
> It's unlikely that every file attribute will fail to verify, so each of 
> the eight attribute flags will only appear if there is a problem. 
> Otherwise, a "." will be printed in that flag's place.
> 

many thanks, just what I was after.



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Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)

2005-02-04 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 04 February 2005 04:47 pm, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:27, Aron Smith wrote:
> > On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote:
> > > I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system.
> > >
> > > Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me
> > > its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it.
> > >
> > > I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect.
> >
> > did you run (as root) updatedb ?
>
> yes, still no joy.

Paul, do you use KDE? If so, use the GUI manager for urpmi, and *if* you can 
find the package in question listed, in either remove or install, look at the 
file listing in the right plane. You might be able to use that list, to go 
see if the files are actually there, and delete all of them, then start over 
trying to install it.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)

2005-02-04 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:27, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote:
> > I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system.
> >
> > Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its
> > not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it.
> >
> > I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect.
> did you run (as root) updatedb ?
> 

yes, still no joy.



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Re: [newbie] Urpmi advice needed (2)

2005-02-04 Thread Avi Schwartz
Paul wrote:
After looking at the wiki, I found the command rpm -Va and applied it.
Part of the output is as follows (to provide an example only)
S.5T   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1
missing/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/encodings.dir
S.5T c /etc/hotplug/blacklist
.M.. c /etc/init.d/hotplug
S.5T   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/fonts.cache-1
'missing' is obvious, but what are the others (e.g. S.5T)?
I don't remember where I copied this from but it goes:
Verifying installed files vs. rpm:
rpm -v package_name
When verifying a package, RPM produces output only  if there is a 
verification failure. When a file fails verification, the format of the 
output is a bit cryptic, but it packs all the information you need into 
one line per file. Here is the format:

SM5DLUGT c 
  

Where:
   *S is the file size.
   *M is the file's mode.
   *5 is the MD5 checksum of the file.
   *D is the file's major and minor numbers.
   *L is the file's symbolic link contents.
   *U is owner of the file.
   *G is the file's group.
   *T is the modification time of the file.
   *c appears only if the file is a configuration file. This is 
handy for quickly identifying config files, as they are very likely to 
change, and therefore, very unlikely to verify successfully.
   * is the file that failed verification. The complete path 
is listed to make it easy to find.

It's unlikely that every file attribute will fail to verify, so each of 
the eight attribute flags will only appear if there is a problem. 
Otherwise, a "." will be printed in that flag's place.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)

2005-02-04 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote:
> I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system.
>
> Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its
> not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it.
>
> I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect.
did you run (as root) updatedb ?


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[newbie] Urpmi advice needed (2)

2005-02-04 Thread Paul
After looking at the wiki, I found the command rpm -Va and applied it.
Part of the output is as follows (to provide an example only)

S.5T   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1
missing/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/encodings.dir
S.5T c /etc/hotplug/blacklist
.M.. c /etc/init.d/hotplug
S.5T   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/fonts.cache-1


'missing' is obvious, but what are the others (e.g. S.5T)?




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[newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)

2005-02-04 Thread Paul
I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system.

Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its
not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it.

I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect.



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Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still

2005-02-01 Thread Paul
Kaj wrote:
>If you don't use a GUI, then (as root) urpmi.removemedia  [name]

Thanks for the pointer, I had already tried this. I just got lost on the
[name] part...

>On Tue February 1 2005 07:55 am, Paul wrote:
>
>In mcc use the software manager  (beside updates) to remove
>"update_source",  then the next time you run updates you'll need to
>choose a new mirror.

That worked! Thank you all, for the help.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still

2005-02-01 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue February 1 2005 07:55 am, Paul wrote:

In mcc use the software manager  (beside updates) to remove "update_source", 
then the next time you run updates you'll need to choose a new mirror.

> Hi everyone,
>
> The urpmi source called
> ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/1
>0.0/RPMS is still not working. Can someone tell me how I get rid of that
> resource? I am trying to get gdk-pixbuf2 installed for the GTK2-port of
> Sylpheed, but wolfenbuettel won't hand it to me:
>
> ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/1
>0.0/RPMS/libgdk-pixbuf2-0.22.0-2.2.100mdk.i586.rpm ...retrieving failed:
> wget failed: exited with 1 or signal 0
>
> This is getting boring...
>
> Thanks for clous!
> Paul


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Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still

2005-02-01 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 16:55, Paul wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> The urpmi source called
> ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official
>/updates/10.0/RPMS is still not working. Can someone tell me how I
> get rid of that resource? 

Can't you just remove it in System-->Configuration-->Packaging-->
Software media Manager ?

If you don't use a GUI, then (as root) urpmi.removemedia  [name].

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[newbie] urpmi agony still

2005-02-01 Thread Paul
Hi everyone,

The urpmi source called  
ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS
is still not working. Can someone tell me how I get rid of that
resource? I am trying to get gdk-pixbuf2 installed for the GTK2-port of
Sylpheed, but wolfenbuettel won't hand it to me:

ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/libgdk-pixbuf2-0.22.0-2.2.100mdk.i586.rpm
...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 or signal 0

This is getting boring...

Thanks for clous!
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Re: [newbie] urpmi locked

2005-01-28 Thread et
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 12:07 pm, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote:
> > -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is
> > locked.
>
> su
>
> ps -A
>
> kill   (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever)
>
> is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment
in console, type "top" you get a page of whatever is eating the most of your 
mem or proc power (in top, just type a capital M or P (no need for 'enter') 
to change the view from what eats the most CPU cycles to what is eating the 
most memory. once you decide what program you want to kill, hit the 'k' and 
then type in the proccess number and then hit enter. hit the space bar to 
refresh the readings and if the program you wanted to kill does not 
disappear, you may have to try a k then a 9 then your process number, as kill 
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Re: [newbie] urpmi locked

2005-01-26 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 17:07, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote:
> > -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is
> > locked.
>
> su
>
> ps -A
>
> kill   (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever)
>
> is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment

  That's why we created the TWiki - it's a FAQ.

killall urpmi urpmi.update urpme rpm urpmi.addmedia
rm -f /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK /var/lib/rpm/RPMLOCK

You'll find it in http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi (which 
should be required reading, it has so much useful info)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi locked

2005-01-26 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote:
> -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is 
> locked.
> 

su

ps -A

kill   (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever)

is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment



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[newbie] urpmi locked

2005-01-26 Thread Dave Needham

-- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is 
locked.


Many Thanks To All Who Reply
Best Wishes
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Re: [newbie] urpmi

2005-01-25 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 08:45, Dave Needham wrote:
> just out of curiosity when you set up urpmi for updates do i have to check
> once a wekk or does it do it itself automaticali.ive set it up and works
> 100% but what next please.
>
> dave

If you are using 10.1 every time you open the Mandrake Update GUI it will 
refresh the urpmi database. Earlier releases did not auto update.

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[newbie] urpmi

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Needham
just out of curiosity when you set up urpmi for updates do i have to check 
once a wekk or does it do it itself automaticali.ive set it up and works 100% 
but what next please.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD

2005-01-24 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
At 10:23 AM 1/24/2005, bascule said something remarkably like (but somehow 
subtly different from):

do you have the latest version of mandrake,
previous ones had
cdroot/
/Mandrake/
/base/
/RPMS/
or just
cdroot/
/Mandrake/
/RPMS(N)/
the latest ones seem to have
cdroot/
/media/
/main/
/media_info
or cdroot/
/media/
/contrib/
/media_info
i can't say for certain that the new cds are laid out as above, im just going
by the directory structure under the i586 tree but i'm guessing you've got
older instructions but the newest distro
bascule
I have
cdroot/
 /media/
  /main/
  /media_info/
There are other directories than just main, of course, and a few files in 
the root as well. This is from the 10.1 Official Power Pack that I 
downloaded as a Mandrake Club member.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD

2005-01-24 Thread Anne Wilson
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> do you have the latest version of mandrake,
> previous ones had
> cdroot/
>   /Mandrake/
>   /base/
>   /RPMS/
>
> or just
> cdroot/
>   /Mandrake/
>   /RPMS(N)/
>
> the latest ones seem to have
> cdroot/
>   /media/
>   /main/
>   /media_info
>
> or cdroot/
>   /media/
>   /contrib/
>   /media_info
>
> i can't say for certain that the new cds are laid out as above, im just
> going by the directory structure under the i586 tree but i'm guessing
> you've got older instructions but the newest distro
>
> bascule
>
It sounds as though the TWiki page needs updating.  Fancy having a go at it, 
Bascule?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD

2005-01-24 Thread bascule
do you have the latest version of mandrake,
previous ones had 
cdroot/
/Mandrake/
/base/
/RPMS/

or just 
cdroot/
/Mandrake/
/RPMS(N)/

the latest ones seem to have
cdroot/
/media/
/main/
/media_info

or cdroot/
/media/
/contrib/
/media_info

i can't say for certain that the new cds are laid out as above, im just going 
by the directory structure under the i586 tree but i'm guessing you've got 
older instructions but the newest distro

bascule

On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 11:45 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
> 3. If I don't have a /base or /Mandrake directory, can I configure urpmi to
> work with the CD copies on my hard drive?

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[newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD

2005-01-23 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
I looked at the urpmi page in the TWiki, and saw that it should be possible 
to copy the install disks to my hard drive and make urpmi look there 
instead of asking for the CDs. But I cannot follow the directions as written.

1. The directions state that I should copy the /base and /Mandrake 
directories from CD1. But I do not see either of these directories on any 
of my CDs. I have the 6 CD set as a Mandrake club member.

2. I did copy, I think, the 6 CDs to my hard drive. I say "I think" because 
while the first one took a while to copy, the others went very quickly, 
which makes me think that something may not be right. I looked inside each 
directory, and saw that RPMs are listed as being there, but I don't see how 
a whole CD can be copied in like 10 seconds.

3. If I don't have a /base or /Mandrake directory, can I configure urpmi to 
work with the CD copies on my hard drive?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-23 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 16:32, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Stephen Kühn wrote:
> > Julie Sloan lied:
> >>
> >>[sorry - anything further I'll post to the OT list]
> >>
> > 
> > Down the mighty Mississip, into the Gulf, through the Panama Canal, head
> > directly SSW and don't stop till you smack into Windang Island.
> > 
> > Else, ship the goats to Knott County, KY and a mate of mine will git'em
> > ready and ship'em over.
> > 
> >
> 
> Huh?   I could WALK 'em to Knott county from here.
> 
> J

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 22 January 2005 04:38 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 January 2005 10:32 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> >>I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully
> >>during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two.
> >>I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the
> >>original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd.  I
> >>can "see" into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it.
> >
> > Actually you seem to have alot'a snap for a newbie.
>
> I hope I've learned a little bit in six months??  But a lot of
> what you say from here on looks like alphabet soup on the first
> pass  :)  So I'll read it again, slower...

If most of us admitted it, we had to, or thought it wise to 
re-install linux about a dozen times in our first six months ;)

> > In the
> > re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;)  Also,
> > IME, one real big /stor dir is better than many.
>
> Why one real big /stor dir? 

   User needs and preference. I have 4 stor partitions. I often 
encounter running out of space on one, when there's room on 
others. Use of dirs (folders) to separate movies, sound, 
pictures, essential backups, and misc would'a been more efficient 
on one humongous size drive.

> Wouldn't it be better to have new 
> downloads (from unknown sources; I don't mean rpms) go to a
> separate partition to isolate them just "in case", and to have
> certain types of large files, for instance MP3s, default to
> their own space?

 Choice of partitions and file systems is a matter of 
preference and user experience.  Basically for partitions, 

/   this is the root directory (not to be confused with 'root' 
user).  It's the top level mount point, that all other 
directories come under. Even if they are on separate partitions. 
Everything on Linux is a file, partitions are put on mount 
points. To illustrate, type 'l /*' in a console and scroll up.  
Even better, type 'tree  /less'  (you'll probly need to 'urpmi 
tree' first)

/home   it's a good idea to have this on it's own partition, 
mostly for reasons you've already discovered.  It can be a bad 
idea when a small HDD (<13gig) is used for Linux tho. IE, 
inefficient use of limited disk space. When I first began with 
linux it was on a 256mb HDD. I used one big 'ol / and a swap 
file.  / is the only absolutely mandatory partition

/swap   almost imperative, altho a swap file can be used instead 
(as above).  General advice is to make it the same size as 
installed ram, if that is at least 512mb.  For smaller amounts of 
ram, double the size of the /swap partition, eg ram=128, make 
swap at least 256. So for ram=256, /swap should be 512. MOF, IMO, 
512 is about the minimum. It's what I have now, an next install 
I'm gonna double it. For laptops that suspend to ram, /swap 
should always be at least 30% more than installed ram, if not 
double.

/boot   while this preference is outdated, IMO it's still a good 
idea to put /boot on a separate partition. Use of ext3 is an 
added precaution when other partitions use a journalled 
filesystem.  IIRC, it's still mandatory for XFS.

Further separate partitioning is mostly for production servers 
and for their unique security concerns. When attempted by newbies 
it can cause files that are needed to boot, to not be available 
during init.  Sort'a fatal ;>

File systems; Journalled is the way to go. Your choice but 
I've never had any problems with ReiserFS. Till now ... 2.6.10 
kernels, and maybe newer ones have some issues with reiser, 
particularly on sata HDD's.  I expect it to be cleared up tho. If 
this concerns you, use ext3.  It's nothin but the old reliable 
ext2 Linux has used forever, with journalling capability tacked 
on.  It's sort'a slow and clumsy tho.

> > As to 'see' into Win$ux, that why I left it at
> > 'complicated'. M$ ntfs FS's (and there are several versions),
> > can be read by Linux, but write support is (intentionally by
> > M$) dangerous and not supported. I'm not even sure if a
> > tarball stored on ntfs can be transferred to Linux.
>
> Yes it can - is how I got a modem driver when linux wasn't
> recognizing my conexant last summer.  D/L'ed it into WinXP &
> then cp'd it into Mandrake.
>
> >BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS.  And make a
> > separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3).  Ratio of '/' to
> > '/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but
> > IME, 8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially
> > if you set aside storage space.  For small Linux 'only'
> > drives (<13gig), I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/'
> > partition, with a suitable /swap partition is best use.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.  I have 200G total on two drives,
> but 80 of that has Win$ux spread all over it.  If I make a,
> say, 20G partition on the 120G drive, (where my crippled
> Mandrake 10.0 is now) then move (?) the 4G of WinXP OS into it,
> could I reformat that 80G into storage 

Re: [newbie] URPMI

2005-01-23 Thread Johan
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:13:56 +0100
Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 23 January 2005 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE
> 


Be root and create and run this script..works for me..MDK 10.0 official..call 
it any name you like..BE sure to be on line for it to work..

#!/bin/bash

ISCOZA=" "
ESLRACH=" "
CONTACTEL=" "
CONTRIB_SK=" "
UNININET=" "
SUNET=" "
PLF=" "

#**
echo; echo "   adding iscoza" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.addmedia --update iscoza 
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with 
../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
ISCOZA="failed"
else
ISCOZA="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   adding eslrach" ; echo

su -c "urpmi.addmedia --update eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ with 
hdlist.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
ESLRACH="failed"
else
ESLRACH="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   adding contactel" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.addmedia --update contactel 
ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bibri/mandrake/9.2/RPMS/ with 
synthesis.hdlist.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
CONTACTEL="failed"
else
CONTACTEL="success"
fi
#**

echo; echo "   adding contrib-sk" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.addmedia --update contrib-sk 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586
 with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/synthesis.hdlist2.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
CONTRIB_SK="failed"
else
CONTRIB_SK="success"
fi
***
echo; echo "   adding uninet" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.addmedia --update uninet 
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/stable/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with 
../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
UNINET="failed"
else
UNINET="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   adding sunet" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.addmedia --update sunet 
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/
 with ../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
SUNET="failed"
else
SUNET="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   adding plf" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.addmedia plf 
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/10.0 with synthesis.hdlist.cz"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
PLF="failed"
else
PLF="success"
fi
#**
echo ; echo
echo "  ISCOZA =  $ISCOZA"
echo "  ESLRACH=  $ESLRACH"
echo "  CONTACTEL  =  $CONTACTEL"
echo "  CONTRIB_SK =  $CONTRIB_SK"
echo "  UNINET =  $UNINET"
echo "  SUNET  =  $SUNET"
echo "  PLF=  $PLF"
echo ; echo
#**
exit 0


When the above is successful then run this after creation..

#!/bin/bash

ESLRAHC=" "
CONTRIB=" "
JPACKAGE=" "
MAIN=" "
UPDATES=" "
PLF=" "

#**

echo; echo "   updating synthesis  eslrahc" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.update eslrahc"
if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
ESLRAHC="failed"
else
ESLRAHC="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   updating synthesis  contrib" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.update contrib"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
CONTRIB="failed"
else
CONTRIB="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   updating synthesis  jpackage" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.update jpackage"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
JPACKAGE="failed"
else
JPACKAGE="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   updating synthesis  main" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.update main"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
MAIN="failed"
else
MAIN="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   updating synthesis  updates" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.update updates"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
UPDATES="failed"
else
UPDATES="success"
fi
#**
echo; echo "   updating synthesis  plf" ; echo

su - -c "urpmi.update plf"

if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
PLF="failed"
else
PLF="success"
fi
#**
echo ; echo

echo "  ESLRAHC =   $ESLRAHC"
echo "  CONTRIB =   $CONTRIB"
echo "  JPACKAGE=   $JPACKAGE"
echo "  MAIN=   $MAIN"
echo "  UPDATES =   $UPDATES"
echo "  PLF =   $PLF"

echo ; echo
#**
exit 0

-

When the above is successful then run..this..be prepared for some long time on 
line if first time...

urpmi --auto-select  --noclean --wget -a

goodluck
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Re: [newbie] URPMI

2005-01-23 Thread Dan Gordon
On January 23, 2005 09:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE

Ok don't yell at us please :-)
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] URPMI

2005-01-23 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 23 January 2005 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE

Here's is one, for a start :

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/

You didn't mention your Mandrake version, so just scroll down to the 
one you have.

On the other hand, why not choose the easy way :

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

or

http://www.linuxfordummies.org/addmedia/

Then you can select a mirror closer to you, although the Spanish one 
I mentioned is pretty fast updated.

Kaj Haulrich.
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[newbie] URPMI

2005-01-23 Thread id1davewp
NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE


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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-23 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 15:52, Paul wrote:
>
> ResierFS is a file system, not a partition - like the windows NTFS,
> FAT32. You can choose which file-system your linux partitions use
> ReiserFS, Ext3, etc

To some extent the choice of file system is a personal preference, *except* - 
do keep /boot, if it is a separate partition, as etx2 or ext3 (which is ext2 
with a journal added).

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-23 Thread Paul
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 00:02, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > Julie Sloan wrote:
> >>Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In the 
> >>>re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;)  Also, IME, 
> >>>one real big /stor dir is better than many.
> >>
> >>>BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS.  And make a 
> >>>separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3).  Ratio of '/' to 
> >>>'/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but IME, 
> >>>8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially if you 
> >>>set aside storage space.  For small Linux 'only' drives (<13gig), 
> >>>I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/' partition, with a 
> >>>suitable /swap partition is best use.
> >>
> >>
> >>When you refer to '/' , is that where /mnt is now, and is that where I'd 
> >>access other partitions from, once I have them?
> >>
> > 
> > Windows doesn't like being moved - you'll need to backup your data and
> > re-install. 
> 
> 
>   baby steps...   one at a time...
> 
> 
> > The '/' Tom mentions refers (here) to the partitioning - when you are
> > asked about mount points when you install he suggests (at least) two
> > partitions '/' and '/home'. Under / you will probably see other
> > directories, including /mnt.
> 
> 
> and /usr and /bin  or am I still confused?

You can, if you wish, have separate partitions for /usr & /bin, or they
can both (and others) come under /

I have just two partitions for linux /home and /. I have a second,
smaller disk with windows on - this also has two partitions (windows &
data).

> 
> 
> > If you format the 80G into a FAT32 partition, both linux and XP could
> > read and write to it.
> 
> 
> What about a ReiserFS?  Or is that something else, not a type of 
> partition as I thought?
> 
> 
ResierFS is a file system, not a partition - like the windows NTFS,
FAT32. You can choose which file-system your linux partitions use
ReiserFS, Ext3, etc





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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-23 Thread Graham Watkins
Margot wrote:

Nooo! I think we'd better transfer any further 'goat' discussion to 
the OT list...


Yup, before you get everybody's goat :-)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Julie Sloan
Stephen Kühn wrote:
Julie Sloan lied:
[sorry - anything further I'll post to the OT list]
Down the mighty Mississip, into the Gulf, through the Panama Canal, head
directly SSW and don't stop till you smack into Windang Island.
Else, ship the goats to Knott County, KY and a mate of mine will git'em
ready and ship'em over.

Huh?   I could WALK 'em to Knott county from here.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 22 January 2005 05:21 pm, Paul wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 23:03, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:42, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > > > Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot.
> > >
> > > Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't
> > > miss a couple!
> > >
> > >
> > > J
> >
> > Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala
> > carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat
> > patties, goat casserole...the list goes on.
> >
> > My barbie is primed up and ready.
>
> You missed the best - goat curry with rice & peas.
No Goat Ice Cream ?


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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:44 am, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 06:35, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 16:31, Julie Sloan wrote:consider Stephen's
> > > advice
> > >
> > >>Gonna start from scratch.  I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD
> > >>and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of
> > >>anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks...
> > >
> > > I think you've made the right decision 
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > Well, this way I may tear out less of my hair   ;)
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > Julie
>
> Linux causes you to tear out hair? Are you sure you're not confusing
> linux with men? Men causing you to tear your hair out I can fully
> understand, but linux? Nah. Easier to control. Much more so than men.
>
> Ask Margot.
Trying to get her goat eh  ;-)
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 11:26, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Stephen Kühn wrote:
> >Julie Sloan wrote:
> >>Stephen Kühn wrote:
> >>>
> >>>My barbie is primed up and ready.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>MMMmm.  I'm rowing.  Expect me sometime in March..
> >>
> >>Julie
> > 
> > 
> > Dunno if anyone's ever rowed from the west coast of the US to the east
> > coast of Australia before...interesting thought, but.
> > 
> 
> 
> Hmmm... down Triplett Creek to the Licking River, up the Licking to the 
> Ohio River, the Ohio to the Mississippi, into the Gulf of Mexico, then 
> east to the Atlantic, south and ...would it be quicker to go around the 
> Horn or Good Hope? ... where'd you say you are?  At the rate these goats 
> procreate I ought to have three or four by the time I get to Oz...
> 
> 
> [sorry - anything further I'll post to the OT list]
> 
> Julie

Down the mighty Mississip, into the Gulf, through the Panama Canal, head
directly SSW and don't stop till you smack into Windang Island.

Else, ship the goats to Knott County, KY and a mate of mine will git'em
ready and ship'em over.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Julie Sloan
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 11:02, Julie Sloan wrote:

What about a ReiserFS?  Or is that something else, not a type of 
partition as I thought?

thanks,
Julie

Let's make it as simply put as possible.
Create the partitions:
/boot (ext3)
/ (ReiserFS)
SWAP
/home (ReiserFS)
Bear in mind that MS Windows should ALWAYS be installed first on the
drive, then GNU/linux afterwards. K.I.S.S. principle.
If you cannot have your /home on a separate partition, then don't worry
about it - it can live happily on the / partition.
Does that make more sense?

Got it.  thanks.



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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Julie Sloan
Stephen Kühn wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Stephen Kühn wrote:
My barbie is primed up and ready.

MMMmm.  I'm rowing.  Expect me sometime in March..
Julie

Dunno if anyone's ever rowed from the west coast of the US to the east
coast of Australia before...interesting thought, but.

Hmmm... down Triplett Creek to the Licking River, up the Licking to the 
Ohio River, the Ohio to the Mississippi, into the Gulf of Mexico, then 
east to the Atlantic, south and ...would it be quicker to go around the 
Horn or Good Hope? ... where'd you say you are?  At the rate these goats 
procreate I ought to have three or four by the time I get to Oz...

[sorry - anything further I'll post to the OT list]
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 11:02, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Stephen Kühn wrote:
> 
> > Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala
> > carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat
> > patties, goat casserole...the list goes on.
> > 
> > My barbie is primed up and ready.
> > 
> 
> 
> MMMmm.  I'm rowing.  Expect me sometime in March..
> 
> Julie

Dunno if anyone's ever rowed from the west coast of the US to the east
coast of Australia before...interesting thought, but.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 11:02, Julie Sloan wrote:

> What about a ReiserFS?  Or is that something else, not a type of 
> partition as I thought?
> 
> 
> thanks,
> Julie

Let's make it as simply put as possible.

Create the partitions:
/boot (ext3)
/ (ReiserFS)
SWAP
/home (ReiserFS)

Bear in mind that MS Windows should ALWAYS be installed first on the
drive, then GNU/linux afterwards. K.I.S.S. principle.

If you cannot have your /home on a separate partition, then don't worry
about it - it can live happily on the / partition.

Does that make more sense?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:18, Margot wrote:
Can I sign up for a 'support contract'?

Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot.

Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't 
miss a couple!

J
Please send 2 nice goats direct to Lanman - it would be cruel to 
ship the poor creatures all the way to England and then all the way 
back to Canada! Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Julie Sloan
Paul wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Tom Brinkman wrote:

In the 
re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;)  Also, IME, 
one real big /stor dir is better than many.

BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS.  And make a 
separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3).  Ratio of '/' to 
'/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but IME, 
8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially if you 
set aside storage space.  For small Linux 'only' drives (<13gig), 
I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/' partition, with a 
suitable /swap partition is best use.

When you refer to '/' , is that where /mnt is now, and is that where I'd 
access other partitions from, once I have them?

Windows doesn't like being moved - you'll need to backup your data and
re-install. 

  baby steps...   one at a time...

The '/' Tom mentions refers (here) to the partitioning - when you are
asked about mount points when you install he suggests (at least) two
partitions '/' and '/home'. Under / you will probably see other
directories, including /mnt.

and /usr and /bin  or am I still confused?

If you format the 80G into a FAT32 partition, both linux and XP could
read and write to it.

What about a ReiserFS?  Or is that something else, not a type of 
partition as I thought?

thanks,
Julie
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Julie Sloan
Stephen Kühn wrote:
Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala
carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat
patties, goat casserole...the list goes on.
My barbie is primed up and ready.

MMMmm.  I'm rowing.  Expect me sometime in March..
Julie
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kühn wrote:
HAD sentimental value. All gone now.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 10:38, Lanman wrote:
> Stephen Kühn wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 07:59, Lanman wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's 
> >>honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will 
> >>be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my 
> >>support contracts instead! Grin!
> >>
> >>Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag!
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > It's Sunday, so since I ain't goin to church, I reckon I should be
> > honest for the day (ONLY for the day, mind you).
> > 
> > --
> > stephen kuhn
> 
> You just HAD to pick today to be honest, didn't ya. Still, I'm guessing 
> that you won't score a lot of "brownie points" with the big guy for 
> being honest just for one day, so that's a relief!
> 
> Nice talking at ya again Stephen. Take Care buddy! BTW, did you ever get 
> rid of that tie you had on your website? Or does it have sentimental value?

HAD sentimental value. All gone now.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kühn wrote:
It's quite alright. On THIS list, women are allowed to choose top or
bottom.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 07:59, Lanman wrote:

Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's 
honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will 
be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my 
support contracts instead! Grin!

Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag!


It's Sunday, so since I ain't goin to church, I reckon I should be
honest for the day (ONLY for the day, mind you).
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You just HAD to pick today to be honest, didn't ya. Still, I'm guessing 
that you won't score a lot of "brownie points" with the big guy for 
being honest just for one day, so that's a relief!

Nice talking at ya again Stephen. Take Care buddy! BTW, did you ever get 
rid of that tie you had on your website? Or does it have sentimental value?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Lanman
Paul wrote:
On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 23:03, Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:42, Julie Sloan wrote:
Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot.

Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't 
miss a couple!

J
Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala
carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat
patties, goat casserole...the list goes on.
My barbie is primed up and ready.

You missed the best - goat curry with rice & peas.
Great Caesar's Goat! Er, Ghost! This is getting real bad folks! LMAO!
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 23:03, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:42, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't 
> > miss a couple!
> > 
> > 
> > J
> 
> Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala
> carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat
> patties, goat casserole...the list goes on.
> 
> My barbie is primed up and ready.
> 

You missed the best - goat curry with rice & peas.



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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Lanman
Margot wrote:
Lanman wrote:
Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's 
honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women 
will be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just 
increase my support contracts instead! Grin!

Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag!

Can I sign up for a 'support contract'? I'm afraid I can't afford to pay 
in *cash*...but I can't afford a bigger hard drive either! ;-)

Done! Your new contract "is in the mail"!
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 10:09, Margot wrote:
>  
> Nooo! I think we'd better transfer any further 'goat' discussion 
> to the OT list...

Speaking of the OT list - what the heck ever happened to those that
initially screamed for an OT IRC channel - which exists, but no one on
this list ever goes there? (ditto with the MDK channel - both are hosted
on the Freenode servers). I spend alot of time in IRC monitoring and
ain't never no one from either list there. Hmmm. Strange that.

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