Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade and IPv6 default

2004-07-07 Thread Ryan Steffes
I'm already running with nolapic because of some issues with my mobo not 
playing nice, so no luck there.

There doesn't seem to me to be any disernable difference between running 
the one kernel and the other, it's just that the new kernel doesn't work.


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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade and IPv6 default

2004-07-06 Thread Scott Mazur
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:49:55 -0400, Ryan Steffes wrote
 This is possibly a dumb question or at least a question with not 
 enough information, but I'm was trying to upgrade my kernel from the 
 2.6.3-7mdk rpm to the source 2.6.7 from kernel.org (with the -ck4 
 patch).  The problem I'm having is that when I try to use it, it 
 seems to insist on using IPV6, so it's not getting any IP address 
 from my gateway.  It ends up assigning some number to eth0 and then 
 some bad number to eth0:9 and basically not working.
 
 Any clues?

I had a similar problem moving from 2.6.3-7mdk to 2.6.3-14mdk (at least it 
appears similar).  Eth0 would take forever to load (and eventually fail).  
Ifconfig looked like all the network interfaces were in IPV6 mode.  My 
solution was to check the 'no acpi' box in the mcc boot config.  Never spent 
any time looking into it beyond that, but I did notice that ifconfig reports 
IPV6 information even on a non IPV6 network.  I suspect the nic hardware was 
just not being setup properly, and lacking a solid IPV4 ip address, ifconfig 
reported only the IPV6 info.

Scott

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade and IPv6 default

2004-07-06 Thread Scott Mazur
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:43:12 -0600, Scott Mazur wrote
 On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:49:55 -0400, Ryan Steffes wrote
  This is possibly a dumb question or at least a question with not 
  enough information, but I'm was trying to upgrade my kernel from the 
  2.6.3-7mdk rpm to the source 2.6.7 from kernel.org (with the -ck4 
  patch).  The problem I'm having is that when I try to use it, it 
  seems to insist on using IPV6, so it's not getting any IP address 
  from my gateway.  It ends up assigning some number to eth0 and then 
  some bad number to eth0:9 and basically not working.
  
  Any clues?
 
 I had a similar problem moving from 2.6.3-7mdk to 2.6.3-14mdk (at 
 least it appears similar).  Eth0 would take forever to load (and 
 eventually fail).  Ifconfig looked like all the network interfaces 
 were in IPV6 mode.  My solution was to check the 'no acpi' box in 
 the mcc boot config.  Never spent any time looking into it beyond 
 that, but I did notice that ifconfig reports IPV6 information even 
 on a non IPV6 network.  I suspect the nic hardware was just not 
 being setup properly, and lacking a solid IPV4 ip address, ifconfig 
 reported only the IPV6 info.

Sorry, it was the 'Force no local APIC' box I checked, not acpi.

Scott

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2004-05-05 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On May 4, 2004 04:35, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 20:12, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
  Finally got updates working with 10.0 Official. I see a completely
  different list of mirrors now in Mandrake Update, so I guess they've
  finally straightened that mess out.
 
  I updated my kernel from 2.6.3.7 to 2.6.3.9:
...
  You can see that the initrd.img and vmlinuz links have been updated. But
  config and System.map still point to the old files, even though new ones
  have been installed. Also, kernel.h doesn't even have a new version.
 
  Now being my first kernel upgrade, and not knowing exactly what role
  these different files play, these inconsistencies scare me. What do the
  config and System.map files do? Why do I not have an updated kernel.h?
 
  Most importantly, is it safe to boot up to this new kernel with this
  configuration?
 
  Any experienced kernel upgraders out there who can help me out?

 Boot the new kernel. I guess those files and links are created after the
 kernel is booted.

You were right, the other links got updated during boot. Whew! Thanks. I was a 
little unnerved about my first kernel upgrade, but it couldn't have gone any 
smoother.

 If you have any problem, you can reboot to the kernel you are working
 with now.


Yeah, I was just afraid it might trash something (since those links were 
pointing to the wrong files, I thought it might overwrite something in the 
old kernel). My mind's been poisoned by the Windoze world (I keep rebooting 
when I don't need to, just to be safe :^).


 Adolfo

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade question

2004-03-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 10:21 pm, John A. Smith wrote:
-You might check out this site. I stumbled across this looking for the
-same info.
-
-http://ozzzy.dhis.org/kernel26.html
-
--john smith

Thanks, I'll look it over. I already knew how to install a new kernel, I just 
wanted to make sure that this kernel and source matched - the 1's kinda 
confused me but they are a match.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade question

2004-03-30 Thread John A. Smith
You might check out this site. I stumbled across this looking for the 
same info.

http://ozzzy.dhis.org/kernel26.html

-john smith



Ronald J. Hall wrote:

I'm need to upgrade the kernel on my laptop. Its got the stock -10 kernel that 
locks up hard everytime I plug my webcam into it. Are these the latest 
matching set?

kernel-2.4.22.28mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
kernel-source-2.4.22-28mdk.i586.rpm
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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade? (# 2)

2004-03-16 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 15 March 2004 06:46 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
  Not necessary unless you would like to experience the thrill of building
  your own kernel, in which case you will want to install the kernel-source
  package and then follow the various instructions.  The kernel SRPM will
  only build the kernels exactly as you see them on the mirrors.

 I think I leave the source build for later.  These are the steps I'll
 follow.   If something is screwed up, let me know.

 1. Make sure my boot floppy works
 2. Add the following to /etc/lilo.conf
         image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
         label=linux-old
         root=/dev/hdb1
         initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
         append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
         vga=788
         read-only
 ?? do I also have to run lilo to get the config to take ??
 3. Install kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
 4. reboot and...

Don't forget to rerun lilo to update the boot time choices, but this should 
work.  You might want to reboot using the item you added to lilo.conf to make 
sure it works before you do the new kernel install.
 --
 Addendum to reply
 --
 I forgot to ask in the previous reply about the following 0.13 specific
 symlinks in /boot
  
 config, kernel.h and System.map

 I did not see them referenced in lilo.conf.

They will be updated when you boot into the new kernel.
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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade? (# 2)

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie M.
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On March 16, 2004 07:50 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
whack
  I think I leave the source build for later.  These are the steps I'll
  follow.   If something is screwed up, let me know.
 
  1. Make sure my boot floppy works
  2. Add the following to /etc/lilo.conf
          image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
          label=linux-old
          root=/dev/hdb1
          initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
          append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
          vga=788
          read-only
  ?? do I also have to run lilo to get the config to take ??
  3. Install kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
  4. reboot and...

 Don't forget to rerun lilo to update the boot time choices, but this should
 work.  You might want to reboot using the item you added to lilo.conf to
 make sure it works before you do the new kernel install.

  --
  Addendum to reply
  --
  I forgot to ask in the previous reply about the following 0.13 specific
  symlinks in /boot
   
  config, kernel.h and System.map
 
  I did not see them referenced in lilo.conf.

 They will be updated when you boot into the new kernel.

Am I missing something here? Installing a new kernel will add not replace. One 
never upgrades a kernel.

Since Mike specified a non-networked workstation he has to copy the rpm for 
the new kernel from somewhere. Wherever that somewhere is, the easiest way to 
install a new kernel on any Mandrake release since forever has been urpmi, 
but that requires sources for software be set up. Second easiest, after 
transferring the package to the target machine, is to open a terminal in the 
directory holding the new package and as super user type:

rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk.rpm [Enter]

Then in the same terminal, after the previous operation completes:

lilo -v [Enter]

You could combine the two;

rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk.rpm  lilo -v [Enter]

I don't like telling people that are uncertain of _anything_ to manually edit 
configuration files. The results will be the same, just a lot less chance of 
an oopsie happenning.

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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade? (# 2)

2004-03-16 Thread Mike Adolf
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:50 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Monday 15 March 2004 06:46 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
   Not necessary unless you would like to experience the thrill of
   building your own kernel, in which case you will want to install the
   kernel-source package and then follow the various instructions.  The
   kernel SRPM will only build the kernels exactly as you see them on the
   mirrors.
 
  I think I leave the source build for later.  These are the steps I'll
  follow.   If something is screwed up, let me know.
 
  1. Make sure my boot floppy works
  2. Add the following to /etc/lilo.conf
  image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
  label=linux-old
  root=/dev/hdb1
  initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
  append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
  vga=788
  read-only
  ?? do I also have to run lilo to get the config to take ??
  3. Install kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
  4. reboot and...

 Don't forget to rerun lilo to update the boot time choices, but this should
 work.  You might want to reboot using the item you added to lilo.conf to
 make sure it works before you do the new kernel install.

  --
  Addendum to reply
  --
  I forgot to ask in the previous reply about the following 0.13 specific
  symlinks in /boot
   
  config, kernel.h and System.map
 
  I did not see them referenced in lilo.conf.

 They will be updated when you boot into the new kernel.

Gerg,
So far as I can tell, the 0.28 install went well.  Now I can try to install 
updated ATI video drivers, which is why I had to go to 0.28.

Thanks for your help!
mike

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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade?

2004-03-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 15 March 2004 03:59 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
 I am now runing kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk in mdk 9.1 and would like to upgrade
 to 2.4.21.0.28mdk. Rpmdrake list 5 flavors of the 0.28. under update.

 Standard, enterprise, secure,  smp, and source. Since the machine is
 non-net wrokstation, I guess I would use

 kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm

 What exactly happens if I install this rpm?
 Does it preserve my configuration defined during 9.1 install?
It will change the symlinking in /biit so that the entries the installer set 
up will boot to the new kernel.  The lilo entries point to the symlinks 
in /boot, so if you change th esymlinks, the entries boot whatever the 
symlinks point to.

 Does lilo get updated in such a way to allow booting to old kernel?
Not on the first update.  Every kernel update adds an explicit choice for 
itself in the bootloader menu.  This allows you to boot into a previously 
installed kernel if the new one does not work as advertised.  The only 
problem with this is that the first kernel install does not install itself 
with an explicit entry, only the symlink ones, so if you want to be able to 
boot the original kernel, you have to add an entry for it to lilo.conf 
manually.

 Or should I attemp a configure and build from the source rpm according to a
 HOWTO?

Not necessary unless you would like to experience the thrill of building your 
own kernel, in which case you will want to install the kernel-source package 
and then follow the various instructions.  The kernel SRPM will only build 
the kernels exactly as you see them on the mirrors.
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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade?

2004-03-15 Thread Mike Adolf
On Monday 15 March 2004 08:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Monday 15 March 2004 03:59 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
  I am now runing kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk in mdk 9.1 and would like to
  upgrade to 2.4.21.0.28mdk. Rpmdrake list 5 flavors of the 0.28. under
  update.
 
  Standard, enterprise, secure,  smp, and source. Since the machine is
  non-net wrokstation, I guess I would use
 
  kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
 
  What exactly happens if I install this rpm?
  Does it preserve my configuration defined during 9.1 install?

 It will change the symlinking in /biit so that the entries the installer
 set up will boot to the new kernel.  The lilo entries point to the symlinks
 in /boot, so if you change th esymlinks, the entries boot whatever the
 symlinks point to.

  Does lilo get updated in such a way to allow booting to old kernel?

 Not on the first update.  Every kernel update adds an explicit choice for
 itself in the bootloader menu.  This allows you to boot into a previously
 installed kernel if the new one does not work as advertised.  The only
 problem with this is that the first kernel install does not install itself
 with an explicit entry, only the symlink ones, so if you want to be able to
 boot the original kernel, you have to add an entry for it to lilo.conf
 manually.

  Or should I attemp a configure and build from the source rpm according to
  a HOWTO?

 Not necessary unless you would like to experience the thrill of building
 your own kernel, in which case you will want to install the kernel-source
 package and then follow the various instructions.  The kernel SRPM will
 only build the kernels exactly as you see them on the mirrors.

I think I leave the source build for later.  These are the steps I'll follow.  
If something is screwed up, let me know.

1. Make sure my boot floppy works
2. Add the following to /etc/lilo.conf
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
label=linux-old
root=/dev/hdb1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
vga=788
read-only
?? do I also have to run lilo to get the config to take ??
3. Install kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
4. reboot and...

This seems too easy!

Thanks Greg
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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade? (# 2)

2004-03-15 Thread Mike Adolf
On Monday 15 March 2004 08:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Monday 15 March 2004 03:59 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
  I am now runing kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk in mdk 9.1 and would like to
  upgrade to 2.4.21.0.28mdk. Rpmdrake list 5 flavors of the 0.28. under
  update.
 
  Standard, enterprise, secure,  smp, and source. Since the machine is
  non-net wrokstation, I guess I would use
 
  kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
 
  What exactly happens if I install this rpm?
  Does it preserve my configuration defined during 9.1 install?

 It will change the symlinking in /biit so that the entries the installer
 set up will boot to the new kernel.  The lilo entries point to the symlinks
 in /boot, so if you change th esymlinks, the entries boot whatever the
 symlinks point to.

  Does lilo get updated in such a way to allow booting to old kernel?

 Not on the first update.  Every kernel update adds an explicit choice for
 itself in the bootloader menu.  This allows you to boot into a previously
 installed kernel if the new one does not work as advertised.  The only
 problem with this is that the first kernel install does not install itself
 with an explicit entry, only the symlink ones, so if you want to be able to
 boot the original kernel, you have to add an entry for it to lilo.conf
 manually.

  Or should I attemp a configure and build from the source rpm according to
  a HOWTO?

 Not necessary unless you would like to experience the thrill of building
 your own kernel, in which case you will want to install the kernel-source
 package and then follow the various instructions.  The kernel SRPM will
 only build the kernels exactly as you see them on the mirrors.

I think I leave the source build for later.  These are the steps I'll follow.  
If something is screwed up, let me know.

1. Make sure my boot floppy works
2. Add the following to /etc/lilo.conf
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
label=linux-old
root=/dev/hdb1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
vga=788
read-only
?? do I also have to run lilo to get the config to take ??
3. Install kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
4. reboot and...
--
Addendum to reply
--
I forgot to ask in the previous reply about the following 0.13 specific 
symlinks in /boot
 
config, kernel.h and System.map

I did not see them referenced in lilo.conf.

mike






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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade gone awry

2004-02-29 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 29 February 2004 01:41 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 I attempted to upgrade my 9.2 kernel from 2.4.22-10mdk to 2.4.22-28mdk,
 following the procedure given at:
 www.mandrakesecure.net/en/kernelupdate.php

 On booting, it ran into problems with XFree, resulting in the following:
snipped
 (Clearly, there are more stanzas here than are required -- and some
 redundant splash=silent statements. I'll take care of those later.) Going
 with the either the linux or 2422-28 stanzas resulted in same errors as
 before, but 2422-10 worked just like old times. I've been poking around in
 the log files (which have gotten pretty damn big), but I haven't seen
 anything that jumps out at me. In particular, a quick comparison of the
 earlier log excerpt with an XFree log from a good boot didn't show anything
 much different up to the first EE message.

 The graphics card is an nvidia GeForce2 64 mb. Asus A7V8X-X motherboard,
 Athlon XP2500+, 512 mb ram. Running 9.2 PowerPack with all current
 upgrades.

 Any advice on where to dig in?

As Philip suggested, I would force the Nvidia installer to reinstall and 
rebuild the kernel module.  When you move to a new kernel, even if it is just 
a patch, you need to rebuild the nvidia module.  If you want to test this, 
change your XF86Config-4 back to the nv driver and comment out glx.  If X 
loads, then you know that is the problem and you just need to force the 
nvidia installer to reinstall again.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade (does order matter?)

2004-01-12 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:22:53 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will this make a difference? ie., do you literally have to install the
 bootloader-utils first?

Apparently, it doesn't matter :-)

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade (does order matter?)

2004-01-12 Thread Ricks
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On Monday 12 January 2004 01:10 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:22:53 -0500

 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Will this make a difference? ie., do you literally have to install the
  bootloader-utils first?

 Apparently, it doesn't matter :-)
Hey Joe, there was a link to this page 
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php ( Author: Vincent Danen) 
which suggests installing - 1st the newer Kernel , then its source and then I 
had to update the bootloader-utils. It worked for me.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade (does order matter?)

2004-01-12 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:45:21 -0500
Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Will this make a difference? ie., do you literally have to install the
   bootloader-utils first?
 
  Apparently, it doesn't matter :-)
 Hey Joe, there was a link to this page 
 http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php ( Author: Vincent Danen) 
 which suggests installing - 1st the newer Kernel , then its source and then I 
 had to update the bootloader-utils. It worked for me.

Yep, that's the order I did it in. I was worried I should have loaded the
bootloader-utils first, since on the 'advisory' page it says:

Mandrake Linux 9.1 and 9.2 users should upgrade the initscripts (9.1)
 and bootloader-utils (9.2) packages prior to upgrading the kernel as
 they contain a fixed installkernel script that fixes instances where
 the loop module was not being loaded and would cause mkinitrd to fail.

Love the way urpmi takes care of everything, just rebooted, reinstalled the
Nvidia drivers under the new kernel, and so far smooth sailin'.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-13 Thread Danny Luker

Charles,

I ran the 'make distclean' prior to 'make xconfig' as you suggested and BAM! 
... Working kernel!  Thanks!  I still have some config issues I'm dealing 
with but it is very nice to see the 'Uncompressing kernel image ... ' message 
on boot of my shiney new kernel.

Thanks!
Danny

On Thursday 11 April 2002 09:54 pm, you wrote:
 Danny Luker wrote:
  Hi Charles and thanks for your reply
 
  On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:22 pm, you wrote:
   K Montgomery wrote:
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
 My first post to this list!

 I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking
 350 MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp
 Zaurus SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my
 Linux box. I have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18
 kernel so I can use the usbdnet patch to make things right with my
 Zaurus.  No joy however.  I followed the README that came with the
 2.4.18 source download.
  
   DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
   xconfig'??
   Charles
 
  I don't know if I do or not.  This was not mentioned in the README or the
  HOWTO's I'm working from.  I don't know what these commands do.   Is this
  Mandrake specific or just one of those things that differenciates a
  newbie like me from real Linux gurus?  ;)
 
  Do I need to do that... I'll try it and see what happens.
 
  Thanks
  Danny
 
 
 
   
  
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 Danny I am no guru!! But if you do a google search on compiling the
 kernel you will find lots of info on the subject. They (maybe) all say
 do a 'make mrproper'. One article says use 'make distclean'. That
 article said distclean deletes one more file than mrproper. I have no
 idea what that file does. Either command works for me. After a new
 kernel compile the new kernel will not work for me if I do not do either
 mrproper or distclean!!!
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-12 Thread Danny Luker

Thanks Charles ... I'll give this a spin and see what happens!  I hope this 
is all that is missing.  ;)  And that I have not already broken something 
else.

Much thanks
Danny

On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:06 pm, you wrote:
 Hi Danny Luker,
 Ref:My Last post about mrproper or distclean

 Either of these commands will delete your .config file in usr/src/linux
 directory. No big deal, you can copy it from /boot. If you have not
 deleted the file yet, cp .config .Config (note the cap 'C'). Now the
 .Config file will not be deleted and you can cp .Config .config after
 the mrproper or distclean command.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread K Montgomery

Did you indeed install the source in your home directory, as this line
implies?

 cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot

If you installed the source from an RPM, I think the default location is
/usr/src, which is why I ask.  I also ask:

Did you get any fatal errors during the kernel compile? (You probably
would have noticed ;D)
What's in your /etc/lilo.conf?
What does ls -l /boot/bzImage say? 

- Kathy 

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote: 
 My first post to this list!
 
 I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350 MHz 
 (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 and 
 much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.  I have spent all 
 day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can use the usbdnet patch to 
 make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy however.  I followed the README 
 that came with the 2.4.18 source download.  
 
 After 
 make xconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make bzImage
 make modules
 make modules_install
 cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
 editing lilo.config to point to new bzImage with lable 2.4.18 (keeping old  
 kernel available)
 lilo
 reboot
 
 then selecting my new kernel from lilo menu system flashes:
  Loading 2.4.18 .
 Then it reboots ... and I grit my teeth and wonder why.
 
 What am I doing wrong .. any common newbie (like me) issues and Gotch-ya's?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread ai4a

K Montgomery wrote:
  
 On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
  My first post to this list!
 
  I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350 MHz
  (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 and
  much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.  I have spent all
  day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can use the usbdnet patch to
  make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy however.  I followed the README
  that came with the 2.4.18 source download.
 

DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
xconfig'??
Charles

  After
  make xconfig
  make dep
  make clean
  make bzImage
  make modules
  make modules_install
  cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
  editing lilo.config to point to new bzImage with lable 2.4.18 (keeping old
  kernel available)
  lilo
  reboot
 
  then selecting my new kernel from lilo menu system flashes:
   Loading 2.4.18 .
  Then it reboots ... and I grit my teeth and wonder why.
 
  What am I doing wrong .. any common newbie (like me) issues and Gotch-ya's?
 
  Thanks
  Danny Luker
 
 
   
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread Danny Luker

Hi Kathy,  

Thanks for your reply ...

On Thursday 11 April 2002 03:18 pm, you wrote:
 Did you indeed install the source in your home directory, as this line
 implies?

  cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot

 If you installed the source from an RPM, I think the default location is
 /usr/src, which is why I ask.  I also ask:


Yes, I installed the source in my home dir (not my first choice) because that 
is what the README that came with the source suggested.  

 Did you get any fatal errors during the kernel compile? (You probably
 would have noticed ;D)

No errors at all.  Compile went very smooth.

 What's in your /etc/lilo.conf?
Listed below ... lable=2.4.18 is the new one .

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda2
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append= devfs=mount
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda2
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append= devfs=mount failsafe
read-only
image=/boot/bzImage
label=2.4.18
root=/dev/hda2
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append= devfs=mount
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

 What does ls -l /boot/bzImage say?
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1209248 Apr 10 17:09 /boot/bzImage

hmm ... does this need to be -rwxrwxrwx?  The Mandrake kernel 2.4.8 has the 
same chmod as my kernel but is actually called through a sym link with  
-rwxrwxrwx.  

Any ideas?
Thanks!
Danny

 - Kathy

 On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
  My first post to this list!
 
  I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350
  MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus
  SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.  I
  have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can use
  the usbdnet patch to make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy however. 
  I followed the README that came with the 2.4.18 source download.
 
  After
  make xconfig
  make dep
  make clean
  make bzImage
  make modules
  make modules_install
  cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
  editing lilo.config to point to new bzImage with lable 2.4.18 (keeping
  old kernel available)
  lilo
  reboot
 
  then selecting my new kernel from lilo menu system flashes:
   Loading 2.4.18 .
  Then it reboots ... and I grit my teeth and wonder why.
 
  What am I doing wrong .. any common newbie (like me) issues and
  Gotch-ya's?
 
  Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread Danny Luker

Hi Charles and thanks for your reply

On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:22 pm, you wrote:
 K Montgomery wrote:
  On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
   My first post to this list!
  
   I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350
   MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus
   SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box. 
   I have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can
   use the usbdnet patch to make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy
   however.  I followed the README that came with the 2.4.18 source
   download.

 DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
 xconfig'??
 Charles

I don't know if I do or not.  This was not mentioned in the README or the 
HOWTO's I'm working from.  I don't know what these commands do.   Is this 
Mandrake specific or just one of those things that differenciates a newbie 
like me from real Linux gurus?  ;)

Do I need to do that... I'll try it and see what happens.

Thanks 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread ai4a

Danny Luker wrote:
 
 Hi Charles and thanks for your reply
 
 On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:22 pm, you wrote:
  K Montgomery wrote:
   On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
My first post to this list!
   
I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350
MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus
SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.
I have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can
use the usbdnet patch to make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy
however.  I followed the README that came with the 2.4.18 source
download.
 
  DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
  xconfig'??
  Charles
 
 I don't know if I do or not.  This was not mentioned in the README or the
 HOWTO's I'm working from.  I don't know what these commands do.   Is this
 Mandrake specific or just one of those things that differenciates a newbie
 like me from real Linux gurus?  ;)
 
 Do I need to do that... I'll try it and see what happens.
 
 Thanks
 Danny
 
 
 
   
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Danny I am no guru!! But if you do a google search on compiling the
kernel you will find lots of info on the subject. They (maybe) all say
do a 'make mrproper'. One article says use 'make distclean'. That
article said distclean deletes one more file than mrproper. I have no
idea what that file does. Either command works for me. After a new
kernel compile the new kernel will not work for me if I do not do either
mrproper or distclean!!!
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem

2002-03-19 Thread Mandrake Newbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well you don't update newer kernels, you _install_ them.  Download and

rpm -ivh kernelname

The name is different so it will install alongside the older kernel and 
be bootable.  Updating usually leaves you with a new kernel and modules 
compiled for an older one, which is a sad situation.


Yeah, I know that.  But basically, if I succeed in installing my new kernel-2.4.18 
over my default kernel-2.4.8 of Mandrake 8.1, it would also be called an upgrade 
'cause I won't use my old kernel anymore.

Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using 
XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and /) filesystems and would you 
mind to give me your how-to's?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem

2002-03-19 Thread Derek Jennings

SNIP
 Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel
 version using XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and /)
 filesystems and would you mind to give me your how-to's?



Well if it is any use to you.
All my partitions are XFS, and I did not have to do anything special when 
installing new kernels.  It just works...

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem

2002-03-19 Thread shane

and you might try a few diferent kernels, it may simply be that one of 
those kernels doesn't match your system in some way.  i myself have 4 
kernels installed but one of them refuses to boot.

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 10:27, Derek Jennings opened a hailing frequency 
and transmitted:

 SNIP

  Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel
  version using XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and
  /) filesystems and would you mind to give me your how-to's?

 Well if it is any use to you.
 All my partitions are XFS, and I did not have to do anything special when
 installing new kernels.  It just works...

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem

2002-03-18 Thread civileme

Mandrake Newbie wrote:

Hello Linux gurus,

I've been trying to upgrade my default kernel-2.4.8 of my Mandrake 8.1 to a newer 
version but with no luck.  I don't know what's the matter that everytime I installed 
a newer kernel version, I can't boot from it.  I am using XFS for my /usr, /home, 
/tmp, /opt, etc. and ext2 for my /boot and / partitions.

Anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS and ext2 filesystems 
and give me their how-to's?

Thank you in advance.

Just a newbie...

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Well you don't update newer kernels, you _install_ them.  Download and

rpm -ivh kernelname

The name is different so it will install alongside the older kernel and 
be bootable.  Updating usually leaves you with a new kernel and modules 
compiled for an older one, which is a sad situation.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade List Archives

2002-02-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby

On Thursday 28 February 2002 05:58 pm, Wes Gregg wrote:
   Hello everyone,

   I am back to Mandrake Linux after a short hiatus  I had to reinstall
 again due to what turned out to be errors on my hard drive  I think I have
 them isolated now  if so I should have a stable system

   It already looks much nicer on my KDS 17 flat screen monitor  Mandrake
 handled it combined with my old TNT card and gave me all graphics
 resolutions, which is a remarkable change from my old generic 14

   I of course lost all my email and web bookmarks this time  I have decided
 to do occasional backups of these files to my windows drive just in case

   I learned somewhere that a better working kernel than I am using (stock
 81 248-26(?)) is 24834(?) which is supposed to fix some security
 issues, virtual memory, etc

   I had an email with directions for upgrading my kernel  Actually it was
 for something else, it was to someone who had just reinstalled and was
 wanting to do something else (update software manager lists?)  But the
 person was directed to first install the newer kernel  I think the message
 went something like:

   First go to someplaceaddyoutthere and download filexafile and follow
 the directions on http:ebaddyady to install it alongside your old
 kernel Then go to mandrake update(?) and get the latest whatnotfiles

   And _then_ go to nVidia's site (or mandrakeuseronline?) and get the
 latest drivers for kernel 248-34(?) and install according to the
 directions at http:anothersiteIforgotady

   And _then_ go do whatever the original person wanted to do because the
 computer is now updated

   Of course since I lost the message(s) that is about all I remember now
 that I find myself in the same situation  Anyone care to send help?

   This brings up my other question:  Is there a website with important
 archived information from this list for people with faulty memories ( hard
 drives) such as myself?

   Thank you,

Wes:
First, my sympathies on the death of your hard drive
The quickest way to get to the list archives is via the Mandrake home page 
Click on the mail list entry in the LH column, and you'll find a link to the 
archive list partway down the page I have a recollection that the posting 
you want was by Civileme (aka Tester) -- let the search function by your 
friend
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade List Archives

2002-02-28 Thread Michael

Wes Gregg wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I am back to Mandrake Linux after a short hiatus  I had to reinstall again
 due to what turned out to be errors on my hard drive  I think I have them
 isolated now  if so I should have a stable system
 
snip 


 This brings up my other question:  Is there a website with important
 archived information from this list for people with faulty memories ( hard
 drives) such as myself?
 
 Thank you,
 --

Try http://wwwmail-archivecom/newbie@linux-mandrakecom/

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade Problem

2002-02-22 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 22 February 2002 07:55 am, Lúcio Costa de Almeida wrote:
 Hi all,

 After the kernel upgrading using kernel-2.4.34.mdk.rpm

If you did upgrade, that's probly most of the problem. Kernels 
should always be installed, eg,  'rpm -ivh kernel--rpm'  This 
installs the new kernel alongside your existing kernel, places the 
proper files in /boot, makes the necessary links, and edits lilo (or 
grub) and runs 'lilo' to write the changes.  You should then have both 
the new kernel and your old one(s) as choices when you boot.

 file, I can't  start the system.
 I initialized the computer with a boot disk.
 I looked in the directory /boot and I didn't find any
 file vmlinuz.

 Try to 'rpm -ivh' the kernel rpm in again.  You'll likely need to 
use 'rpm -ivh --force' since you'll probly get an already installed 
error.  If that doesn't fix it, the easiest thing to do would be to 
boot the install CD and choose 'upgrade'. Unselect any new packages, 
and you can skip thru most stuff that's already setup like X, internet 
connection, and partitions, etc. Should only take a few minutes.

 You might also want to take a look at
  http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku
for a better understanding of what you did wrong. I suggest you read 
'em all, but particularly 'Page Four (Troubleshooting)'
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade help!

2000-12-31 Thread Paul

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Jon Doe wrote:

I am using Mandrake 7.1 and was wondering if I can install the kernel that
comes with 7.2 ie: 2.2.17-21.mdk.rpm ? Or is this kernel specifically for 7.2?

Yes, you can upgrade the kernel with no problem.

Also, I was wondering what kernel rpms do I actaully need to install, I see
there are several rpms and I didn't think they all needed to be installed, but
I have only done it once and can't remember which ones I installed.

If you plan on compiling things yourself, you should also install the
kernel header sources. Without those, most things won't compile. Docs are
always good too.

Good luck
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Re: [[newbie] kernel upgrade mkinitrd for scsi]

2000-12-16 Thread Altoine Barker

As Johnny five would say, "More input!"

"How" are you upgrading?

rpm -i
or
rpm -u

because if it is "-u" that is the reason you are having problems. You have
to do an "-i" install if you want the kernel to work.

Cheers
-- Al


Victor Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to upgrade my current  2.2.15-4mdksecure kernel to
2.4.0-0.13mdk rpm, and whenever I do a mkinitrd for an initrdx.xx.x.img(

for my scsi drive, etc.) , I get an error:

#mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.0-0.13.img 2.4.0-0.13mdk
error: -d option is not supported on Linux
error: -d option is not supported on Linux
Error creating temporaries.  Try again

I upgraded (in order) mkinitrd, SysVinit, initscripts, kernel, and
kernel-docs via rpm
before this with no problem. The strange thing is that I got the same
error trying to do mkinitrd on another machine earlier today.

Am I using the wrong command syntax?

Any help appreciated,

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Re: [[newbie] kernel upgrade mkinitrd for scsi]

2000-12-16 Thread Victor Richardson

Wow! Thanks for replying, this is beginning to make some sense. Actually, I used 
KPackage w/
"Upgrade", "Replace Packages", and "Check Dependancies" checked. I was following the
MandrakeUser.org directions and realized that I sould have done it from a shell right 
after
pressing the Kpackage "Install" button because I couldn't be sure what was really 
happening.
Anyway, I decided to finish using Kpackage for consistency (my mistake).

What do you think is my best course of action from here: 1) Uninstall rpm's and do it 
again (rpm
-ivh?)from a shell or prompt, 2) re-install (w/o uninstall) from a shell or prompt, 3) 
Compile
another kernel from source?

I've compiled a kernel once before, 6 months ago,  and don't remember it being all 
that difficult
and failry quick (30-45 minutes).

Victor

Altoine Barker wrote:

 As Johnny five would say, "More input!"

 "How" are you upgrading?

 rpm -i
 or
 rpm -u

 because if it is "-u" that is the reason you are having problems. You have
 to do an "-i" install if you want the kernel to work.

 Cheers
 -- Al

 Victor Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to upgrade my current  2.2.15-4mdksecure kernel to
 2.4.0-0.13mdk rpm, and whenever I do a mkinitrd for an initrdx.xx.x.img(

 for my scsi drive, etc.) , I get an error:

 #mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.0-0.13.img 2.4.0-0.13mdk
 error: -d option is not supported on Linux
 error: -d option is not supported on Linux
 Error creating temporaries.  Try again

 I upgraded (in order) mkinitrd, SysVinit, initscripts, kernel, and
 kernel-docs via rpm
 before this with no problem. The strange thing is that I got the same
 error trying to do mkinitrd on another machine earlier today.

 Am I using the wrong command syntax?

 Any help appreciated,

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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade

2000-05-17 Thread Eric MC DECLERCK

I tryed the 2.3.(31 I thought) under
redhat 6 months ago and had no pb.
Eric
PS: now I'm on the latest mandrake.
Eric

Ron Greer wrote:
 
 2.3.xx is beta.
 All odd numbers are beta:
 2.2.14
 z.y.xx
 xx == Release version, it just increments, get the highest one.
 yy == Major version, get the even numbers, right now it's 2.  Hopefully soon
 we'll see 2.4.xx.  (If you've got an older computer, you may want to go with
 2.0.xx)
 z == Really Major version :)  Wow it's been a long time since this number
 changed just get 2 :)
 
 -=Ron=-
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:24 AM
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 Subject: [newbie] kernel upgrade
 
 is the 2.3.xx kernel a beta or stable release and will it
 effect the operation of mandrake if I upgrade my kernel?
 
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RE: [newbie] kernel upgrade

2000-05-16 Thread Ron Greer

2.3.xx is beta.
All odd numbers are beta: 
2.2.14
z.y.xx
xx == Release version, it just increments, get the highest one.
yy == Major version, get the even numbers, right now it's 2.  Hopefully soon
we'll see 2.4.xx.  (If you've got an older computer, you may want to go with
2.0.xx)
z == Really Major version :)  Wow it's been a long time since this number
changed just get 2 :)

-=Ron=-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] kernel upgrade


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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade without rebooting?

1999-12-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, you wrote:
 I just upgraded to kernel 2.2.13-22 from -7 and wondered if there's any
 way to switch to the new kernel without rebooting. I don't figure there is
 but I've got 22 days of uptime under my belt and had been hoping to keep
 it up as long as possible :)
 
Is that all??? Just 22 days??? Sheesh! :-)
[john@slave1 john]$ uptime
  9:11pm  up 51 days, 15:32,  1 user,  load average: 2.10, 2.10, 2.09
[john@slave1 john]$  
that's a PPro 200 [dual-processors but only one in use] running
seti@home, plus two instances of rc5des, reaing mail, Netscape open
to a page and downloading a file with Netscape. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

1999-08-19 Thread Kalju Rtli

edit /etc/lilo.cof to your new kernel in /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1.whatever yhen
rerun lilo

Thats all...

Kalju


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From: Ji-Haw, Foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 1:12 PM
Subject: [newbie] Kernel upgrade


 I have installed Mandrake with kernel 2.2.9. 9 is good, but the app. I
want
 to use asks for 10, so I am trying to install 2.2.11 (which is the
latest).
 However the download Mandrake sites do not come with 9 or 10. I have the
 non-RPM .11 kernel. I have done the make dep; make clean; make bzImage.
But
 whenever I boot up Mandrake, it always says that it is using 2.2.9. How
can
 I make sure? Is there something missing in my compilation (perhaps
something
 I should do with lilo?)?

 regards,

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade :)

1999-05-18 Thread James Capone

I will have to check and let you know. I had to use the bzImage because the
zImage was too big. That is funny on a 2.1 gig drive the zImage was to big.
Ohh...

I will let you know.

James
- Original Message -
From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade :)


 James Capone wrote:

  the soun drivers to work. With 2.0.36 they worked fine, now when I load
the
  kernel it gives me a bunch of errors about the sound. Like no such file
or
  directory all on the sound. Every thing else works fine. I had to make
the

 Did you build sound as a module, or compile it into the kernel?  Have
 you looked at /etc/conf.modules?  I'm just guessing here, but if you
 built it as part of the kernel, and 2.0.36 had it as modules (which it
 did in the kernel that ships with Mandrake 5.3), you're going to have
 old scripts which still want the modules.  Do the drivers work at all in
 spite of the errors?

 Since you needed to make bzImage instead of zImage, I suspect that
 (like me) you didn't use modules very much, and this may be contributing
 to your problem.

 --
 Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
 with ketchup.




Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade :)

1999-05-18 Thread Dan Brown

James Capone wrote:

 I will have to check and let you know. I had to use the bzImage because the
 zImage was too big. That is funny on a 2.1 gig drive the zImage was to big.

Same reason I needed to use bzImage--I don't know where the size limit
comes in, or why.  However, the size of the kernel leads me to believe
that you didn't use modules much (and I don't know enough yet to know
whether that's a good or a bad thing).

--
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.



Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade

1999-05-17 Thread Dan Brown

James Capone wrote:

 When I reboot and try to run Linux with the new Kernel I get the
 following message
 
 Loading Linux.
 No signature file.
 Then it stalls

Are you able to boot at all (with the old kernel)?  If not, do you have
a boot disk?  Did you run /sbin/lilo after making the changes to
lilo.conf?

--
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade

1999-05-17 Thread Anonymous

"James J. Capone" wrote:

 I can boot with the old 2.0.36 kernel, Also after I did zlilo and typed lilo at
 the command prompt and it loaded everything..
 
 Also is there any reference to the systemmap.xxx that would cause it. and do I
 need to make a Link to the kernel somehow.

I don't know that you _need_ to make a link to the kernel.  I copied
the new bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9, and then made a symlink to
/boot/vmlinuz.  As to the systemmap stuff, I'm not quite sure.

When I upgraded, I thought I'd copy and paste the existing (working)
setup from the 2.0.36 kernel, but there was a line which didn't match. 
Unfortunately, I'm not at that system right now, so I can't find which
line it was, but this is roughly what I used in lilo.conf:

image = /boot/vmlinuz
  root = /dev/sda3
  label = linux
  read-only

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Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.



Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade

1999-05-17 Thread Steve Philp

 James Capone wrote:
 
 I am trying to upgrade to the 2.2.9 version of the Kernel. I went
 through the entire process for un taring the file through the entire
 process.
 
 I did the make menuconfig
 I did the make dep
 I did the make zImage
 I did the make modules
 I did the make modules_install
 I did the make zlilo
 Even did cp zImage /vmlinuz
 edited the lilo.conf to look like this
 
 image=/vmlinuz
 Label=Linux
 etc...
 
 When I reboot and try to run Linux with the new Kernel I get the
 following message
 
 Loading Linux.
 No signature file.
 Then it stalls

If that's the order that you did things in, you might want to try this
instead:

make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make zImage
make modules
make modules_install
cp zImage /vmlinuz
[edit /etc/lilo.conf]
/sbin/lilo

That should fix it up!
-- 
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem

1999-04-28 Thread Ripcrd6

I would think that the boot disk must be remade also.   I know you must do
this with other operating systems after major upgrades, which is what you
have with new kernel.
Brian Kelsay

-Original Message-
From: Yun Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 2:00 PM
Subject: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem


Hi, there,

I recently installed Mandrake 5.3 with kernel 2.0.36,
I found out that there is no ppp support compiled in this version of
kernel, so I decide to upgrade it to 2.2.1.

I've done everything mentioned in upgrade kernel how-to, and finished each
step without error. however, after I reboot the machine, ( I still use the
boot disk I created when I installed original Mandrake 5.3 ), it still
boot to 2.0.36, I tried TAB while lilo comes up, my new label
"linux-new" does not appear at all. I am sure I did everything else right.
like edit lilo.conf, and copy boot image, and even delete "preferred",
So what is the problem, does the boot disk need to upgrade too?

Yun





Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem

1999-04-28 Thread Hidong Kim

Yun Li wrote:
 
 Hi, there,
 
 I recently installed Mandrake 5.3 with kernel 2.0.36,
 I found out that there is no ppp support compiled in this version of
 kernel, so I decide to upgrade it to 2.2.1.
 
 I've done everything mentioned in upgrade kernel how-to, and finished each
 step without error. however, after I reboot the machine, ( I still use the
 boot disk I created when I installed original Mandrake 5.3 ), it still
 boot to 2.0.36, I tried TAB while lilo comes up, my new label
 "linux-new" does not appear at all. I am sure I did everything else right.
 like edit lilo.conf, and copy boot image, and even delete "preferred",
 So what is the problem, does the boot disk need to upgrade too?
 
 Yun


Hi, Yun,

You indeed have to boot with the new kernel floppy.  If you're using the
boot floppy from the original installation, you'll revert to the old
kernel, the one on the floppy.  If you want to make a new boot floppy
with your newly compiled kernel image, do:

dd if=/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage of=/dev/fd0 bs=8192

Depending on how you compiled the kernel, you may have a bzImage instead
of a zImage.  Boot up with this floppy to get the new kernel.  If you
want to boot this new kernel with lilo, make sure you run '/sbin/lilo'
after you change /etc/lilo.conf.  Good luck,



Hidong



Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem

1999-04-28 Thread Stefan Dozier
At 01:59 PM 4/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi, there,
>
>I recently installed Mandrake 5.3 with kernel 2.0.36, 
>I found out that there is no ppp support compiled in this version of
>kernel, so I decide to upgrade it to 2.2.1.

Someone please tell me the above statement is NOT true. I uninstalled Redhat v5.1, kernel updated to 2.0.36 which had PPP support. I wouldn't see any reason why the Mandrake edition(s) @ v2.0.36 wouldn't have PPP support. Guess I better check my installation to confirm or debuke the existence of PPP support in Mandrake 5.3 kernel version 2.0.36
>
>I've done everything mentioned in upgrade kernel how-to, and finished each
>step without error. however, after I reboot the machine, ( I still use the
>boot disk I created when I installed original Mandrake 5.3 ), it still
>boot to 2.0.36, I tried TAB> while lilo comes up, my new label
>"linux-new" does not appear at all. I am sure I did everything else right.
>like edit lilo.conf, and copy boot image, and even delete "preferred",
>So what is the problem, does the boot disk need to upgrade too?

I would almost guarantee the answer to this question would be yes, the boot disk has to be upgraded also.


Stefan Dozier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem

1999-04-28 Thread Dan Brown

 I recently installed Mandrake 5.3 with kernel 2.0.36,
 I found out that there is no ppp support compiled in this version of

This is not true, as can be easily shown by the fact that I am using
that version of the kernel, and am able to connect using PPP.





Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem

1999-04-28 Thread Stefan Dozier

At 04:16 PM 4/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
 I recently installed Mandrake 5.3 with kernel 2.0.36,
 I found out that there is no ppp support compiled in this version of

This is not true, as can be easily shown by the fact that I am using
that version of the kernel, and am able to connect using PPP.


Since I commented earlier on the subject, I've checked my Mandrake 5.3
kernel v2.0.36, and I occur that there is PPP support compiled in @ kernel
v 2.0.36.


Stefan Dozier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade problem

1999-04-28 Thread Hidong Kim

Stefan Dozier wrote:
 
 At 01:59 PM 4/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
 Hi, there,
 
 I recently installed Mandrake 5.3 with kernel 2.0.36,
 I found out that there is no ppp support compiled in this version of
 kernel, so I decide to upgrade it to 2.2.1.
 
 Someone please tell me the above statement is NOT true. I uninstalled Redhat v5.1, 
kernel updated to 2.0.36 which had PPP support. I wouldn't see any reason why the 
Mandrake edition(s) @ v2.0.36 wouldn't have PPP support. Guess I better check my 
installation to confirm or debuke the existence of PPP support in Mandrake 5.3 kernel 
version 2.0.36
 
 I've done everything mentioned in upgrade kernel how-to, and finished each
 step without error. however, after I reboot the machine, ( I still use the
 boot disk I created when I installed original Mandrake 5.3 ), it still
 boot to 2.0.36, I tried TAB while lilo comes up, my new label
 "linux-new" does not appear at all. I am sure I did everything else right.
 like edit lilo.conf, and copy boot image, and even delete "preferred",
 So what is the problem, does the boot disk need to upgrade too?
 
 I would almost guarantee the answer to this question would be yes, the boot disk has 
to be upgraded also.
 
 Stefan Dozier
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi, Stefan,

It's not true.  The stock installation of Mandrake 5.3 has ppp support. 
Good luck,



Hidong



Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade Questions...

1999-04-24 Thread Michael Doyle

Adam Wright wrote:
 
 I would like to upgrade my kernel for Linux Mandrake 5.3. I have D/Led
 the newest kernel source files in RPM format. I think there were three
 of them. One is the kernel, one is the header files and the last is the
 source. Now I am at the point that I am not quite sure what to do. If I
 just use the RPM installer in KDE does that take care of the upgrade, or
 is there a different way to go about doing this. I am not very
 proficient with Linux (yet) and I would appreciate any and all help.
 
 Adam Wright

G'day Adam,

Where did you get the files?

What you need to do also is get all the files in the in the
kernel2.2/update dir from that site, I also suggest that you look at the
readme file and the instructions on kernel upgrade at the following
sites:

ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/kernel2.2/ 

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/kernel2.2-upgrade.html

Hope this helps ;-))
-- 
Michael Doyle
Adelaide, South Australia
ICQ #2635762
http://landofoz.apana.org.au



Re: Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade Questions...

1999-04-24 Thread Bela Lantos

Hi Adam,

It is recommended by the gurus that you don't upgrade your kernel
unless you have to. I did not listen, and ran into lots of problems.
1. The printer port disappeared (you have to find an answer to that 
in the newsgroups).
2. Problems with pppd unexpectedly dying at Internet dialup
(I have no idea what the solution is!!!)
3. Midi is played extremely fast inside Netscape and outside sometimes.
(No solution yet!!!)
I am right now thinking about reinstalling Mandrake since I wasted
2 weeks. If you have lots of time and like to have lots of headache,
go ahead, upgrade it.
Cheers, Bela

(home page: http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/belantos/index.html)


At 25/04/1999 10:23:00, you wrote:
Adam Wright wrote:
 
 I would like to upgrade my kernel for Linux Mandrake 5.3. I have D/Led
 the newest kernel source files in RPM format. I think there were three
 of them. One is the kernel, one is the header files and the last is the
 source. Now I am at the point that I am not quite sure what to do. If I
 just use the RPM installer in KDE does that take care of the upgrade, or
 is there a different way to go about doing this. I am not very
 proficient with Linux (yet) and I would appreciate any and all help.
 
 Adam Wright

G'day Adam,

Where did you get the files?

What you need to do also is get all the files in the in the
kernel2.2/update dir from that site, I also suggest that you look at the
readme file and the instructions on kernel upgrade at the following
sites:

ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/kernel2.2/ 

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/kernel2.2-upgrade.html

Hope this helps ;-))
-- 
Michael Doyle
Adelaide, South Australia
ICQ #2635762
http://landofoz.apana.org.au





Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade Questions...

1999-04-24 Thread Michael Doyle

Bela Lantos wrote:
 
 Hi Adam,
 
 It is recommended by the gurus that you don't upgrade your kernel
 unless you have to. I did not listen, and ran into lots of problems.
 1. The printer port disappeared (you have to find an answer to that
 in the newsgroups).

G'day Bela,

The answer to this one lies in the documentation kernel-doc-.x.x.x, and
also has been posted in this mailing list at least every 2nd day.

Look in /usr/src/linux-2.2.5-ac3/Documentation/parport.txt for the
answer to the printer problem, also as the printer allocation has
changed in kernel 2.2.x, you might try and edit /etc/printcap and say
change lp1 -- lp0 and so on.
-- 
Michael Doyle
Adelaide, South Australia
ICQ #2635762
http://landofoz.apana.org.au



Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade Questions...

1999-04-24 Thread Bela Lantos

Thanks Michael, I did have the solution to this articular one, but not the
rest.
Bela

Michael Doyle wrote:

 Bela Lantos wrote:
 
  Hi Adam,
 
  It is recommended by the gurus that you don't upgrade your kernel
  unless you have to. I did not listen, and ran into lots of problems.
  1. The printer port disappeared (you have to find an answer to that
  in the newsgroups).

 G'day Bela,

 The answer to this one lies in the documentation kernel-doc-.x.x.x, and
 also has been posted in this mailing list at least every 2nd day.

 Look in /usr/src/linux-2.2.5-ac3/Documentation/parport.txt for the
 answer to the printer problem, also as the printer allocation has
 changed in kernel 2.2.x, you might try and edit /etc/printcap and say
 change lp1 -- lp0 and so on.
 --
 Michael Doyle
 Adelaide, South Australia
 ICQ #2635762
 http://landofoz.apana.org.au



Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade, kppp problem

1999-04-21 Thread Paul A. Bernicchi

- Original Message -
From: Avionix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 6:07 AM
Subject: [newbie] Kernel upgrade, kppp problem



 Hi..,
 I've recently upgrade my kernel and follow the instruction at
 www.linux-mandrake.com
 for kernel 2.2.3-ac4 but after upgrading, I cannot use my kppp anymore.
 I always had this 'timeout expired' error message even I manage to dial
the
 server.
 Now what is the problem?  Script?

 ~~ Avionix ~~

I have had the same problem with 2.2.3-ac4.  Try upgrading to 2.2.5 and see
if it fixes your problem, as it did with mine.

Paul

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Paul A. Bernicchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ #1287814
http://www.ascend.net/jacuzzi
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Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade no XWindows Help Please

1999-04-02 Thread Michael Doyle

Robert Sheskin wrote:
 
 Installed everyone from the update directories .
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade no XWindows Help Please
 
  Robert Sheskin wrote:
  
   I tried to upgrade my kernel with the rpms from the mandrake site and it
 did
   not work.
 
  G'day
 
  Did you also Update all the RPMS in /kernel2.2/RPMS/updates???
 

G'day,

H, thats not the answer I wanted ;-)), Steve might be able tho help
here???

-- 
Michael Doyle
Adelaide, South Australia
ICQ #2635762
http://landofoz.apana.org.au



Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade no XWindows Help Please

1999-04-02 Thread sphilp

On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 07:25:44AM +, Michael Doyle wrote:
 Robert Sheskin wrote:
  
  Installed everyone from the update directories .
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade no XWindows Help Please
  
   Robert Sheskin wrote:
   
I tried to upgrade my kernel with the rpms from the mandrake site and it
  did
not work.
  
   G'day
  
   Did you also Update all the RPMS in /kernel2.2/RPMS/updates???
  
 
 G'day,
 
 H, thats not the answer I wanted ;-)), Steve might be able tho help
 here???
---end quoted text---

From the original message, it sounds like Unix sockets got disabled during
kernel config on the new kernel.  Recheck your 'make config' and ensure that
you've got things turned on that need to be turned on.

-- 
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] kernel upgrade no XWindows Help Please (more info)

1999-04-02 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Robert Sheskin wrote:

 I have recompiled the kernel and read every help file doing as it suggested
 if I was not sure...no change.  I tried to run kernelcfg from the command
 prompt and received the following error: Tcl Error: no display name and no
 $DISPLAY environment variable.

kernelcfg requires a running X - use "cd /usr/src/linux ; make menuconfig"
instead.

LLaP
bero




Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade

1999-04-01 Thread Tom Houghton

Dear Steve, I'm sorry to bother you once again,  but I still seem to have a
major problem. I wanted to try to compile my kernel, but if I try to do 'make
xconfig' from /usr/src/linux  I get the error 
'make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.'
[same with make xconfig] I checked around on my system, and /usr/src/linux
contains only the /include directory. The same was true for
/usr/src/linux-2.2.3-ac4. All the useful looking stuff, /documentation,
 /arch, /drivers etc and Makefile, which I suppose is the program I need to
use, all this is in the old kernel directory /usr/src/linux-2.0.36.
Is there a simple trick to solve this? I'm afraid I've been blindly following
instructions and obviously something didn't work right.
NO RUSH, and thanks again for your previous help, Tom