[newbie-it] imwheel e kde
Uso kde ed ho un mouse logitech con rotellina, quello con il marchietto in bianco e nero. Purtroppo pero' la rotellina non ne vuol sapere e quando eseguo il comando imwheel mi viene risposto: imwheel is not checking/writing a pid file, BE CAREFUL! An imwheel may be running already, two or more imwheel processes on the same X display, or using gpm -W, will not operate as expected! imwheel started (pid=858) Ho sentito dire che la colpa e' del mouse molto sfigto. Qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento per favore? Negli altri NG non ne sa niente nessuno. Nicola.
[newbie-it] Ho risolto il problema GRUB
Ciao a tutti qualche tempo fa avevo mandato una e-mail in cui chiedevo come fare ad eliminare le voci ridondanti nel meno Grub (scritte a causa di una mia reinstallazione di Mandrake 7.1). La soluzione del problema era più semplice di quanto mi aspettassi: 1°) andare nella directory /boot/grub; 2°) aprire il file menu.lst con qualsiasi editor; 3°) eliminare le voci che non interessano; al riavvio troverete il GRUB ripulito con le sole voci che vi interessano; PS.: In questo modo potete cambiare colore anche alla schermata, ma io però non l'ho ancora fatto. P.P.S.: Se qualcuno di voi ha per caso la versione completa della Mandrake 7.1 (La mia è di una rivista, ma è incompleta (mancano varie cose e i plug-in di netscape)), avendo comprato la Mandrake 7.0 completa (6 CD) per £ 120.000 non voglio spenderne altrettanto per la 7.1, potremmo scambiarci i CD.
Re: [newbie-it] imwheel e kde
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:36:35 +0200, Casa said: Uso kde ed ho un mouse logitech con rotellina, quello con il marchietto in bianco e nero. Purtroppo pero' la rotellina non ne vuol sapere e quando eseguo il comando imwheel mi viene risposto: imwheel is not checking/writing a pid file, BE CAREFUL! An imwheel may be running already, two or more imwheel processes on the same X display, or using gpm -W, will not operate as expected! imwheel started (pid=858) Ho sentito dire che la colpa e' del mouse molto sfigto. Qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento per favore? Negli altri NG non ne sa niente nessuno. Hai provato con "imwheel -k"? In questo modo viene "ucciso" qualsiasi altro processo già in funzione, poi controlla che nel file di configurazione di XFree vi sia MouseManPlus come protocollo. Io ho il tuo stesso mouse e funziona benissimo. Ciao -- __ Sebastiano Cordiano
[newbie-it] scheda audio
ma salve! sono sempre il solito neofita alle prime armi...qualche cosa non mi torna... ho una scheda audio (sfigata??? boh!) TT Solo1-S (come da manuale) ESS Solo1 Soundblaster Compatibile (come vista da uindos) EES Technology EES 1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (come vista da mandr 7.1 ottenuto da rivista). ma fin qui... il primo problema è: come mai quando avvio mandrake dal desktop di uindos (Linux4Win) la scheda non viene riconosciuta? leggo durante l'avvio il seguente messaggio: /lib/modules 2.2.15-4mdk/misc/esssolo1.o :insmod esssolo FAILED.(o qualcosa di molto simile). Mentre quando avvio mandr dal dual boot (uindos o linux?) viene riconosciuta e funziona? secondo problemino: quando prendo un cd musicale e lo butto dentro al computer riesco a sentire tutte le canzoni, questo è fuori di dubbio, ma la qualità e decisamente inferiore rispetto a uindos...forse posso ritoccare i settaggi della scheda? e come mai, invece, i file .mp3 si sentono una bellezza? sicuramente il primo motivo di tutto questo è la mia ignoranza in materia...ma il secondo...quale sarà? grazie mille e salutatemi a bil gheiz, osva
[newbie-it] Arieccomi, col modem!
Ciao gente, sono il tipo del modem USR 336 Isa PNP ricordate?.. bhe vi dico: --ho mandrake 7.0 (che non mi vede il CD ma non e' questo il problema per ora) --al mio caro Modem ho messo i ponticelli impostandolo sulla giusta porta ttyS2 e irq 5 --dal Bios ho tolto il plugplay --Windows95 mi vede due modem, non me ne frega niente in quanto funziona lo stesso! --Linux vede il modem perfettamente senza usare i vari setserial e chkconfig! --il minicom funziona benissimo, compone il numero e si connette! il problema e' : col Kppp non riesco a connettermi, il modem lo riconosce, lo interroga, ma quando mi connetto non sempre compila il numero, a volte si ferma sul settaggio del volume! la domanda e' ... devo usare per forza Kppp per connettermi a Internet, ci sono alternative? Grazie! Ciro!
[newbie-it] aiuto! ho fatto un casino installando su un laptop!!!
chiedo 1000 volte perdono: sono un assoluto principiante e forse non mi dovevo imbarcare in un'impresa titanica come questa. ma ormai il danno è stato fatto e quindi chiedo aiuto a qualche anima gentile che sia molto più esperta di me: ho tentato di installare mandrake 7.1 su un vecchio laptop (canon innova book 490 CDT anno 1995) che ha il floppy drive e il lettore cdrom estraibili e quindi disponibili solo in alternativa l'uno all'altro. ho installato da cd (anche se il vecchio bios non consente il boot da cd) utilizzando la procedura dell'autorun del cd di installazione sotto win95. ho ripartizionato eliminando completamente windows e creando una unica partizione ext2 con mount point / più una partizione linux swap da 64MB (l'hard disk è complessivamente da 1GB, la RAM 32MB). durante l'installazione dei pacchetti il computer si è piantato e sono stato costretto a spegnere. al riavvio.. il disastro! (ovviamente): sull HD non c'è più nessun OS, se inserisco il lettore CD il bios non lo avvia, se parto col floppy di ripristino di windows e lancio fdisk prima mi dice che sull'HD non c'è una partizione valida (ovviamente, ora è linux native) poi mi si pianta. abbandonata l'idea di poter reinstallare windows credo di capire che l'unica speranza sta nel riuscire a far partire linux da floppy e, in qualche modo, reinstallare su HD ma sempre da floppy (non essendo disponibile il CD). ho tentato con un dischetto di boot ma poi mi chiede il disco di root e se procedo a un certo punto si pianta dicendo "kernel panic". ma qui il panico è mio, prima ancora che del kernel!!! qualcuno mi sa guidare in questa funambolica procedura (ammettendo che sia possibile installare su HD solo partendo da floppy)? grazie!!! c.
Re: [newbie-it] Problemi con la scheda sonora
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Sebastiano Cordiano wrote: On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Fabio Coatti wrote: D'accordo fare il tifo per i drivers ALSA, ma questa volta non ce ne è bisogno: la PCI128 va benissimo senza mettere altra roba oltre al driver presente nel kernel, altrimenti l'MP3 che sto ascoltando adesso è frutto di fantasia :-))) Forse non ho capito quello che intendi, ma io non ho certo detto che i driver del kernel non funzionano: io parlavo di qualità del suono. All' inizio la mia SBlive andava con i driver opensource di Creative ed era ok, ma da quando ho installato gli Alsa beh, per nulla al mondo tornerei indietro! Ciao ebuonanotte :-))) Anch'io ho una SBlive. L'ho sempre usata con il driver emuk10 della Creative perchè non sapevo che ci fossero altre possibilità. Vorrei provare gli Alsa. Mi potresti dire dove li posso trovare? Sono difficili da far funzionare? Ciao -- Floods e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Problems
I have a Micron 450 PII 128 Megs of ram Diamond Viper 550 and a bunch of other *hitola that I don't think I need to mention but in the installation during the X configuration it recommends Riva 128 but it SEEMS it should be recommending RIVA TNT or Diamond 550. I try to set it to those and I get error two when it tries to run X. Sure it will run X but I can't change res, and it's probably wasting resources. Is there any good information out there about this? Problem two. This is more or less a repost but when it tries to load the Ethernet card (Macronix, Inc. [MXIC]MX987x5 (NETWORK_ETHERNET tulip) When I try to figure out which DHCPD client to use I try to load after installation it will not load (during the beginning). This started with 7.2b3 (which if they would have never added whatever they added it would have worked fine like it did in 7.1). Thanks in advance for any hints or suggestions. Starz McCllelan Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [newbie] Fragmentation in Linux,
It was Sep 30, 2000, 23:38, when Vinay Kudithipudi keyboarded: Hello Fellow Linux Users, Is there any disk fragmentation tool in Linux? Thank you. Nope. Linux takes care of that by itself. The file system is set up not to defragment. Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] How get to scroll one page at a time?
It was Oct 1, 2000, 02:41, when Jose keyboarded: Under the command line the command ls sometimes brings information onto the screen which doesn't fit on it. Funny as it might seem, even the ls --help command does the same, so I can never get to see all the information. I tried lsmore and lsless (out of reading something about it long ago) but it didn't work. Can any one shed some light? Best then is to pipe it through more: ls --help | more Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Weird error when using the rpm command
It was Oct 1, 2000, 01:45, when fireman71 keyboarded: When using "rpm -Uvv rpm-name-here.rpm" to update any RPM i get the followingerror message: error getting record /bin/sh from //var/lib/rpm/requiredby.rpm It would be a good time for you to rebuild the rpm database. Run rpm --rebuilddb I hope that helps Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] bttv problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am trying to install the bttv driver in my computer (I have an Avermedia TV98 and under windows98 I can watch very well the TV and decode C+ (Spain) and with Cable Crypt a lot of cable chanels. Hi there. BTTV is already installed as part of the latest kernels. You should be able to do a: lsmod and see it listed/installed. You can do: insmod bttv modprobe bttv if not. In my case I had to do the following: insmod bttv card=10 vidmem=0xe60 to get it to recognize/work with my Hauppauge WinTV tuner... I *highly* recommend going to tucows, linuxnewbie, and the bttv web site and reading all the docs and "howto's" that you can find. About compiling...do you have trouble compiling any other software? If so, then my next question is did you pick developer during you Linux installation? You really need to have done that... Hope this helps! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
It was Sep 30, 2000, 16:48, when Austin L. Denyer keyboarded: I remember having many hours of fun with the Z80 as well (actually an 8080A). I had a version of the old arcade game 'Space Invaders' that ran in under one kilobyte of RAM! Eat yer heart out, Mr. Gates... Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote a simple but functioning accounting system in it :) Oh, the delights of having to load every calculation into the accumulator for every operation. The fun of having to initialize the data direction of a port before you could use it. The pain of placing redundant instructions inside nested loops to achieve time delays, calculated manually by the instruction time for each operation. Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there... The programmers of today don't know they're born... One of the beauties of Linux is that it allows you to get back to tight code, and real optimizations, rather than the slow bloatware of other systems. I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so, can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than 500Kbytes. Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] How get to scroll one page at a time?
John Rye wrote: Jose wrote: Under the command line the command ls sometimes brings information onto the screen which doesn't fit on it. Funny as it might seem, even the ls --help command does the same, so I can never get to see all the information. I tried ls¦more and ls¦less (out of reading something about it long ago) but it didn't work. Can any one shed some light? Another thing, maybe its the fonts...but your | looks more like : here... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
[newbie] Using a 2nd DR-DOS HD?
I know many users dual-boot with Linux/some Windog variant, but is it possible to setup a small, 2nd HD with DR-DOS as the OS? This would let me run some older DOS games... ;-) Thanks in advance! -- /\ DarkLord \/
[newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
Hey folks. . . About a year ago, I partitioned my handdrive and installed a copy of Redhat 5.2 on my PC. I've spent very little time fooling with it since. I've now decided that I'd really like to learn Linux but would rather do so via Mandrake 7.1 rather than upgrading to a newer version of Redhat . I'm at a loss for tracking down info about how one would uninstall Redhat and install another Linux distribution such as Mandrake 7.1.It's certainly not info offered in any of the Redhat users guides that I've got. Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC, yet keeping the existing partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ? I can't find such information in any of the Redhat books/users manuals I've got. I'm assuming that there are a few people on this mailing list who've been down this same path before. It would just be great to not have to reinvent the wheel. Any/all feedback or suggestions would be greatly appraciated. Thanks ; ) John Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, ME http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * John A. Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, Maine USA http://facelink.com/i90 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Two people have been living in you all your life. One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical, calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being, whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely heard or attended to." --Sogyal Rinpoche
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
At 01-10-2000 04:12 AM, you wrote: about how one would uninstall Redhat and install another Linux distribution such as Mandrake 7.1. Hi, If you want to install Mandrake over RedHat, just boot your computer with the boot disk from Mandrake (or a pure DOS boot disk). Proceed with Mandrake installation - (as if nothing is there) - Linux-Mandrake will detect the existing linux and 'ask' you for permission to over-write/delete, 'say OK' and carry on, every thing will be fine. IF you are going to remove linux (any distro) and install some other OS, then surf to : http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.2-Manual/getting-started-guide/sl-q-and-a-removing.html I did both above procedures and both worked for me. Regards
Re: [newbie] Fragmentation in Linux,
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, you wrote: Hello Fellow Linux Users, Is there any disk fragmentation tool in Linux? Thank you. -- Warm regards, Vinay mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Vinay, Liinux does this automatically after a certain number of boots so you needn't worry about doing this manually. Andrew
Re: [newbie] X windows does not recognise graphics card
Paul/Larry you suggested running Xconfigurator from the command line to change my settings. Thanks, tried that, unfortunately when I ran Xconfigurator my monitor goes dark immediately (just as it did in the last bit of the Linux install sequence). I then have to reboot to get out of that one. seems to be a tricky one.. Matt --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was Sep 30, 2000, 19:36, when Matt Usselmann keyboarded: Tried your suggestion, but cannot change the settings for my video card on my BIOS (I presume that's what you meant?!) It defaults to detecting the PCI video card and default cannot be changed. Set the Windows display property settings to the values you suggested (16bit, 800*600), but that did not make any difference. Still no X windows when rebooting Linux. When you run Xconfigurator, you have to select these lower values. You can, indeed, not change the settings through the Bios. Select the settings when setting up X-Windows. Sorry if I was unclear. Paul 2000, 14:51, when Matt Usselmann keyboarded: Tried to install 7.0 for the first time. It installed ok up to the point where it should configure X Windows. Instead of seeing the "Is this the correct setting?" display, monitor went completely dark. That seems to indicate that the graphics card is not supported?!? It is a #9GXE64 (powered by S3 Trio 64) - the original card in my 5 year old Dell. Hi Matt, When setting up X, there often happens something like you describe. Happened with me also when I still had the S3 card. The way to go is NOT to let the setup probe the card, just tell it to use conservative settings (800x600, 16 bit colors, something like that), make sure that things work that way when booting, and then gradually go up with the requirements upto what you want. You can bet that a 5 year old card, as common as the S3 Trio, is supported. A note: many applications do not like 24bit colors, so try to avoid that setting. Paul -- A file that big? It might be very useful. But now it is gone. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie -- A file that big? It might be very useful. But now it is gone. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [newbie] X windows does not recognise graphics card
It was Oct 1, 2000, 10:33, when Matt Usselmann keyboarded: Paul/Larry you suggested running Xconfigurator from the command line to change my settings. Thanks, tried that, unfortunately when I ran Xconfigurator my monitor goes dark immediately (just as it did in the last bit of the Linux install sequence). I then have to reboot to get out of that one. My mistake. You need to run 'xf86config'. That is the textmode program. Sorry!! Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
Paul wrote: It was Sep 30, 2000, 16:48, when Austin L. Denyer keyboarded: I remember having many hours of fun with the Z80 as well (actually an 8080A). I had a version of the old arcade game 'Space Invaders' that ran in under one kilobyte of RAM! Eat yer heart out, Mr. Gates... Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote a simple but functioning accounting system in it :) Oh, the delights of having to load every calculation into the accumulator for every operation. The fun of having to initialize the data direction of a port before you could use it. The pain of placing redundant instructions inside nested loops to achieve time delays, calculated manually by the instruction time for each operation. Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there... The programmers of today don't know they're born... One of the beauties of Linux is that it allows you to get back to tight code, and real optimizations, rather than the slow bloatware of other systems. I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so, can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than 500Kbytes. For an example of tight (and I mean TRICKY TIGHT! ) aquire and reverse engineer the original Microsoft BASIC. What had been around 48K on the PDP-11 was packed into a 4k ROM. A trully brilliant bit of optimising of existing code segments. Can't for the life of me remember who the work was attributed too - but I rather think he'd be a rather rich dude these days. TIC Cheers Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: [newbie] How get to scroll one page at a time?
I seem to remember that both less and more are reliant on the line count which is set in the config files somewhere - can't remember where that setting is - termcap?? John...at first blush it seems more dynamic than that. I just opened a xindow and did an ls -al /usr/bin | lessEach time I paged and the number of files listed matched the window depth regardless of where I set it. Can't add anything to why the problem exists but the number of lines displayed used seems to come from the display size. Other thing, maybe symantics - isn't it 'normal' to use whitespace in that type of command?? eg 'cat foo.txt | more tee lpr' ? some people are born to be cryptic. Reminds me of debates I've had with C programmers :-) Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Problems with drivers
make -f makefile_clm_config.h The Message of Linux: makefile_clm_config.h: the file or directory doesn't exist no rule to make target "makefile_clm_config.h". Stop. What's wrong? It would seem from the document you've provided (great idea), the name of the makefile is clm_config.h, not makefile_clm_config.h. make -f clm_config.h should do it for you. Good luckI NEVER run alpha software on a machine I where I care whether it works or not. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC, yet keeping the existing partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a It's easy...don't worry about it. Just run the Mandrake install and it'll see the Linux partitions and use them, overwriting the RH installation. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] X windows does not recognise graphics card
you suggested running Xconfigurator from the command line to change my settings. Thanks, tried that, unfortunately when I ran Xconfigurator my monitor goes dark immediately (just Sorry but my msg was a followup to Paul's and he suggested that you install a low-res X installation before proceeding. My advice was based on the assumption that you'd done that. I see that he's provided you with the true commandline fix (xf86config). Sorry to scew you up like that. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
I hate to disagree with Alan but I support markO,s view. I just last week upgraded the drives in 1 of my systems. I put in 2 15GB IBM 7200rpm ATA/100 drives ($104 each) and a Promise Ultra100 PCI Controller Card ($35). Should I choose I can now hook up 8 IDE devices to that system, 4 to the MOBO and 4 to the Controller card, although presently I have only 5 attached. Now a big BTW. Linux does not support ATA100 drives. So if you wanted to run Mandrake on that system you would need either at least 1 ATA66 or 33 hd or you would need to operate the ATA100 drive at 1 of those rates. Charles - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog... Mark...thanks for the advice. I will definately keep that in mind. Makes a lot of sense too. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, markOpoleO wrote: Mark, Don't purchase SCSI unless you have a NEED for them (mission critical stuff), IDE ATA66/100 drives are still the best solution, i know lots people who used to go SCSI changing to IDE cause there Cost/performance diffrence. You can double your hardrive space on IDE for the cost of SCSI. And you won't tell a diffrence in everyday computing unless you are moving tons of 100meg files around every day. (and that is not happening for everyday user). Minor off topic, but I have known people who hear about SCSI and think its "all that" and go spend lots of money just cause someone said it was fast, and they are wondering why they can't tell a difference on there computer with 7 games installed on it. :) Not being critical of you, just trying to be helpfull. markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog... Alan, Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI drives and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager on the IDE drive? The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces because otherwise the SCSI's won't boot. -- Mark
Re: OT [newbie] Off-topic posts.
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hear, Hear, or Here, Here !! Thanks for some common sense ! I'm Canadian, and and I'm sick to death of this crap! - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Off-topic posts. Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but what the fsck is it about US Politics that "even vaguely relates" to Linux? Please, humor me, this bemused Linux user is eager to learn... I agree that "you post messages to a list for the benefit of that list seeing and responding". BUT What makes you think that the Mandrake Linux Newbie list members (many of whom are from other countries) are even remotely interested in US politics? If I want Linux information then I sign up to a Linux list. If I want that political crap I'll sign up to a US politics list. Regards, Ozz. (Who is about ready to quit this list until the twits get a clue) Thank you Ozz...very well put. I'm glad that someone has finally said it and it couldn't have been said any better. I live in the States and I definately don't want to hear about this crap on the list. It's all ya hear about in the stinkin news all the time. Enough already! Mark Ozz, you read my mind... enough of the politics... only linux in this house!!! Gavin
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, you wrote: Hey folks. . . About a year ago, I partitioned my handdrive and installed a copy of Redhat 5.2 on my PC. I've spent very little time fooling with it since. I've now decided that I'd really like to learn Linux but would rather do so via Mandrake 7.1 rather than upgrading to a newer version of Redhat . I'm at a loss for tracking down info about how one would uninstall Redhat and install another Linux distribution such as Mandrake 7.1.It's certainly not info offered in any of the Redhat users guides that I've got. Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC, yet keeping the existing partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ? I can't find such information in any of the Redhat books/users manuals I've got. I'm assuming that there are a few people on this mailing list who've been down this same path before. It would just be great to not have to reinvent the wheel. Any/all feedback or suggestions would be greatly appraciated. Thanks ; ) John Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, ME http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * John A. Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, Maine USA http://facelink.com/i90 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Two people have been living in you all your life. One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical, calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being, whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely heard or attended to." --Sogyal Rinpoche My friend, upgrading to Mandrake 7.1 is very simple being that Mandrake is 100% compad. with red hat, you can just install (upgrade)from red hat. I had 6.1 and all I did was run the upgrade program.. every thing was ok since then.. I hope this helped some. good luck Gavin
Re: [newbie] Telneting
You are both very correct, however, I used to the term "hacker" because this "is" a newbie list and most people readily understand the term more quickly than they do "cracker." -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Austin L. Denyer wrote: Sorry for butting in with a dumb question, isn't a hacker, like you said, a very passionate and devoted programmer - BUT Isn't a *cracker* is someone who breaks into computers maliciously? Please update my database if the info I typed is not correct. You are correct Sir. I just wish that more people (especially the mass media) could understand the difference... A hacker can be justifiably proud of himself. A cracker is generally a wannabe hacker, but without the skills to make the grade. Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC, yet keeping the existing partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ? John Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, ME http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose to keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format. So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2 partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Networking Linux
Greetings, everyone: My name is Riker. I joined the list a couple days ago and have been enjoying the dialouge and exchanges that have taken place very much. I will ask my question first and then give some background afterward if anyone is interested in reading it. Will Linux-Mandrake, with one network card per machine (two machines - peer to peer), one with a dial up connection, share the internet? Been having some troubles getting it setup. Thanks a bunch! Background (Casual reading) I'm currently a computer technician and work on systems that only have Windows operating systems installed on them. I haven't been a technician for very long and am being educated daily on the limitations Windows has and the conundrums it seems to cause. I find it boorish and bloated, and with all the money we people spend on it, greatly over priced. About a year ago, I took a stab at Red Hat Linux and had great succes installing it and making it do the things I wanted it to do, but it would not run my WINMODEM (not its fault by any measure). So I went back to Windows full time. Not just becuse of Linux's inability to run my modem, but because I was working with Windows everyday and needed to bone up at home. Well, after seeing so much of Windows and its problems, I decided it was time to get a real operating system. Something that I could rely on to be there when I needed it. So, while perusing the isles of the local Wal-Mart, I saw a nice package with a big penguin on it. Linux-Mandrake. Done. I bought it without reservation and raced home to install it. I have had it on my system ever since and have almost forgotten Windows completely(Win2000 and WinME). The install was perfect and everything was detected without flaw. So now when someone comes into the shop and ask me what operating system they should run for realiablity and stability I say Linux without question. To boast a little more about Linux power, we've started receiving calls on how to setup Linux and what distrobution to use. I think Linux may be rounding the curve, finally. -- Linux - The way of the future
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
One can opt to have Mandrake format the partitions, but not remove them during the first part of the install, please e mail back if you need any more info. Hope this helps. Vic On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, GlacierTrek wrote: Hey folks. . . About a year ago, I partitioned my handdrive and installed a copy of Redhat 5.2 on my PC. I've spent very little time fooling with it since. I've now decided that I'd really like to learn Linux but would rather do so via Mandrake 7.1 rather than upgrading to a newer version of Redhat . I'm at a loss for tracking down info about how one would uninstall Redhat and install another Linux distribution such as Mandrake 7.1.It's certainly not info offered in any of the Redhat users guides that I've got. Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC, yet keeping the existing partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ? I can't find such information in any of the Redhat books/users manuals I've got. I'm assuming that there are a few people on this mailing list who've been down this same path before. It would just be great to not have to reinvent the wheel. Any/all feedback or suggestions would be greatly appraciated. Thanks ; ) John Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, ME http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * John A. Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, Maine USA http://facelink.com/i90 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Two people have been living in you all your life. One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical, calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being, whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely heard or attended to." --Sogyal Rinpoche
Re: [newbie] Dialup fooled
John Rye wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: Hi all, this is probably not a common problem, but, when I get a voice message on my phone line, the phone signals with a stutter tone on picking up the receiver. This fools KPPP into thinking there is no dial How about prefixing the actual dial commands with the string to disable call waiting?? Had that problem here - seems to have fixed it. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) Which string and at what location do you put it? TIA, Dennis -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
Oh yeah, eesh, I almost forgot, when I was a windoze user, I heard the term hacker used and I thought it meant devoted programmer, which I was used to hearing in my unix days (I was only 5 but learning, then my dad changed computer systems, no more unix, for a long time-- DOH!) and I heard "hacker" being used in the "wrong" way and I soon learned that in the windoze world, it is used to mean cracker, just as -- yech!! "software author" is used to mean -- ahem -- *Programmer*. Just my opinion, but I can't stand it when someone calls a programmer a "software author" it is demeaning. anyway back to some hacking?? Gotta learn some more C--- On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: You are both very correct, however, I used to the term "hacker" because this "is" a newbie list and most people readily understand the term more quickly than they do "cracker." -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Austin L. Denyer wrote: Sorry for butting in with a dumb question, isn't a hacker, like you said, a very passionate and devoted programmer - BUT Isn't a *cracker* is someone who breaks into computers maliciously? Please update my database if the info I typed is not correct. You are correct Sir. I just wish that more people (especially the mass media) could understand the difference... A hacker can be justifiably proud of himself. A cracker is generally a wannabe hacker, but without the skills to make the grade. Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
Tom: Thanks for the info. I appreciate you taking the time. John During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose to keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format. So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2 partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay * * * * * John Gasbarre Vinalhaven Island, Maine USA http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two people have been living in you all your life. One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical, calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being, whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely heard or attended to. --Sogyal Rinpoche
[newbie] New user about to load 7.1
Hi all, I signed on a couple of days ago and have learnt a lot so far. Anyone out there set up Mandrake 7.1 on a Toshiba laptop or similar (mine is satellite 2550CDT Cel. 366, 64mb, 4Gb) - I just want some idea of possible pitfalls before I start off. It will have to be dual boot for now - I am stuck to Win 98 until something else is up and running. TIA for any suggestions, Kevin ___ Kevin Melody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] wine and share
Hi, I have a problem when I want to run a windows program. I do not have any windows HD on my system, but I have a windows program I need to run. I have no problem to run it as "root", but as a simple user, it doesn't want to run. Each time I have a message saying something like that : "You must install the program SHARE.EXE before starting those programs. To install the program SHARE.EXE, you have to read the documentation related to the DOS Operating System." As "root", I do not have such a message and the program runs fine. How can I do to make it run for someone else than "root" ? Thanks. Francois
[newbie] Supermount 2.2.16-9mdk
Hallo again! I've downloaded and compiled this kernel instead of 2.2.15 that comes with Mandrake 7.1, and answerd yes to the "supermount removable media support" question. On startup it says it's disabling supermount and so it is; instead of filesystem type supermount i see iso9660 in /etc/fstab 8-? Any idea? P.D.: I've send so many questions to the mailing list... i'd like to please everyone who has helped me improve my knowledge on Linux ;-) ThanXX!! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] Supermount 2.2.16-9mdk
I've downloaded and compiled this kernel instead of 2.2.15 that comes with Mandrake 7.1, and answerd yes to the "supermount removable media support" question. On startup it says it's disabling supermount and so it is; instead of filesystem type supermount i see iso9660 in /etc/fstab 8-? If I'm reading this right the OS is rewriting your fstab file. Is that correct? That's VERY interesting. Sure wish I could help but that's a new one. What happens if you manually edit the supermount back into fstab for, say a floppy drive? /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat, /dev/fd0 0 0 After making this change, do a mount -a? Do you get the same error msg? Does it overwrite your fstab changes? Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Networking Linux
It was Oct 1, 2000, 10:07, when Riker keyboarded: I joined the list a couple days ago and have been enjoying the dialouge and exchanges that have taken place very much. I will ask my question first and then give some background afterward if anyone is interested in reading it. Will Linux-Mandrake, with one network card per machine (two machines - peer to peer), one with a dial up connection, share the internet? Been having some troubles getting it setup. Hi Riker, Glad to hear you are so happy with Linux. And yes, you can have a shared Internet connection from the machine. You need to set up IP Masquerading. I hope this will get you in the right direction, I have not gone into this myself yet. But, heck, when someone guides you through it, why not should I follow the lead and do it here also, so I know what I am talking about!! Paul -- Yesterday it worked. Today nothing is working. Windows is like that. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Dialup fooled
Dennis Myers wrote: John Rye wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: Hi all, this is probably not a common problem, but, when I get a voice message on my phone line, the phone signals with a stutter tone on picking up the receiver. This fools KPPP into thinking there is no dial How about prefixing the actual dial commands with the string to disable call waiting?? Had that problem here - seems to have fixed it. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) Which string and at what location do you put it? TIA, Dennis -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842 I have no idea what the actual string to disable-waiting is in your patch.. grin In mine, I have send 'atdt~#70~xxx' - the tilde indicating a 1 second delay before sending the actual number I'm dialing to. I assume you may have one of the flavours of Windows9x running - take a look at dialup networking - it's usually shown in 'Dialing Properties'. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
[newbie] How to find Info about Hardrive.
I got MD7.1 installed and was wondering how do i find out about the hardrive, like Size, Space used, space avaliable? markOpoleO
Re: [newbie] How to find Info about Hardrive.
markOpoleO escribió: I got MD7.1 installed and was wondering how do i find out about the hardrive, like Size, Space used, space avaliable? markOpoleO Try df (Disk Free)... -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] Telneting
I have a scale: Hacker elite advanced hacker good hacker Basic hacker script kiddie who knows their a script kiddie-I am here, boardering basic hacker. Adv script kiddie Script kiddie Wannabe Of course, those rate only skill. They say nothing about how the hacker/cracker uses that skill. - Original Message - From: "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Telneting Sorry for butting in with a dumb question, isn't a hacker, like you said, a very passionate and devoted programmer - BUT Isn't a *cracker* is someone who breaks into computers maliciously? Please update my database if the info I typed is not correct. You are correct Sir. I just wish that more people (especially the mass media) could understand the difference... A hacker can be justifiably proud of himself. A cracker is generally a wannabe hacker, but without the skills to make the grade. Regards, Ozz.
[newbie] Opps.
Quick one. I set a seperate home partition, and I set it to 500mi. It sounded like a good idea at the time. Now, can I shrink it to 50mi and if I can what should I do with the extra space? I know how to mount it but not how to mount it as something useful like /bin or /usr without loseing whatevers in there.
[newbie] Help on Pine, Fetchmail and @Home Cable
Hi Mark, I'm still trying to set up Pine with Fetchmail. For now, I am using Netscape 4.75. Any @Home cable users out there that have successfully set up Pine and Fetchmail. I welcome any .png files to see how you set up Pine and Fetchmail There seems to be some confusion about the server name, email user name. Many thanks to Mark on getting me interested and started with Pine. I still have a couple of glitches. Regards, -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Support Linux drivers: http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
Re: [newbie] Opps.
I set a seperate home partition, and I set it to 500mi. It sounded like a good idea at the time. Now, can I shrink it to 50mi If you have no data and/or have no programs of your own that you run from your home directory, I suppose you could. I guess I would wonder what you use your computer for as the home directory is where all the results go :-) and if I can what should I do with the extra space? A very good question. Why do you want to shrink your home directory? Is some other partition short on space? I know how to mount it but not how to mount it as something useful like /bin or /usr without loseing whatevers in there. I doubt you'd want to make a new partition. Rather, you'd just want to move the space from one partition to another one. Thus, no mounting changes would need take place. You would have to use something like Partition Magic to move the disk space though. For what it's worth, I have nearly 2gigs of data, scripts and control files in my home directory. If I had more space that's exactly where I'd put it. Cheers -- Larry
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote a simple but functioning accounting system in it :) One of my colleagues once tried to write a program to calculate the performance characteristics of large-bore oil hoses, and ran out of memory on a 16k machine. I then wrote the thing myself in ... wait for it ... 450 BYTES! Needless to say, it was completely devoid of any eye candy, but it worked (well, I wrote it in an evening...) Out of interest, what machines were you using? How long ago? Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there... Oh yes. Some of the memory saving tricks were neat too. I used to use existing constants to save precious register space (pi/pi for 1, pi-pi for 0, etc.). Another advantage to programming at that level was this: You knew the value of each op. code. You knew the location in which you stored it in memory. Therefore, you could use these codes for constants too. For example, if the instruction LDA (LoaD Accumulator) was 0fh (15 decimal) and you had stored that instruction in memory location 02ff, then you could call the value 15 by pointing to 02ff. Self-modifying code was fun too, especially when someone else tried to parse it #;-D I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so, can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than 500Kbytes. I can't wait to get back into it with Linux. One of these days Regards, Ozz.
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
For an example of tight (and I mean TRICKY TIGHT! ) aquire and reverse engineer the original Microsoft BASIC. What had been around 48K on the PDP-11 was packed into a 4k ROM. A trully brilliant bit of optimising of existing code segments. Neat! My record was re-writing a set of applications such that the finished article had six times the original functionality, took up a tenth of the original memory requirements, and ran twenty times faster... Can't for the life of me remember who the work was attributed too - but I rather think he'd be a rather rich dude these days. Either that or he got ripped off so bad that he quit in disgust. Pity the poor dude who wrote the original spreadsheet. He sold the exclusive rights for it to Lotus Development Corp. for peanuts... Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] Hackers/crackers
I have a scale: Hacker elite advanced hacker good hacker Basic hacker script kiddie who knows their a script kiddie-I am here, boardering basic hacker. Adv script kiddie Script kiddie Wannabe Of course, those rate only skill. They say nothing about how the hacker/cracker uses that skill. Here is the 'official' definition, according to the Hacker Jargon File: = hacker: n. [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value. 4. A person who is good at programming quickly. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in `a Unix hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations. 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence `password hacker', `network hacker'. The correct term for this sense is cracker. The term `hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net (see the network and Internet address). For discussion of some of the basics of this culture, see the How To Become A Hacker (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html) FAQ. It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic). It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled bogus). See also wannabee. This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the 1960s by the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab. We have a report that it was used in a sense close to this entry's by teenage radio hams and electronics tinkerers in the mid-1950s. === In the elite section you have Wizard, Guru and Demigod. The best descriptions of these are those in the hacker jargon file: = wizard: n. 1. Transitively, a person who knows how a complex piece of software or hardware works (that is, who groks it); esp. someone who can find and fix bugs quickly in an emergency. Someone is a hacker if he or she has general hacking ability, but is a wizard with respect to something only if he or she has specific detailed knowledge of that thing. A good hacker could become a wizard for something given the time to study it. 2. The term `wizard' is also used intransitively of someone who has extremely high-level hacking or problem-solving ability. 3. A person who is permitted to do things forbidden to ordinary people; one who has wheel privileges on a system. 4. A Unix expert, esp. a Unix systems programmer. This usage is well enough established that `Unix Wizard' is a recognized job title at some corporations and to most headhunters. guru: n. [Unix] An expert. Implies not only wizard skill but also a history of being a knowledge resource for others. Less often, used (with a qualifier) for other experts on other systems, as in `VMS guru'. demigod: n. A hacker with years of experience, a world-wide reputation, and a major role in the development of at least one design, tool, or game used by or known to more than half of the hacker community. To qualify as a genuine demigod, the person must recognizably identify with the hacker community and have helped shape it. Major demigods include Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie (co-inventors of Unix and C), Richard M. Stallman (inventor of EMACS), Larry Wall (inventor of Perl), Linus Torvalds (inventor of Linux), and most recently James Gosling (inventor of Java). In their hearts of hearts, most hackers dream of someday becoming demigods themselves, and more than one major software project has been driven to completion by the author's veiled hopes of apotheosis. == Finally, here is the definition of Cracker from the same source: == cracker: n. One who breaks security on a system. Coined ca. 1985 by hackers in defense against journalistic misuse of hacker (q.v., sense 8). An earlier attempt to establish `worm' in this sense around 1981-82 on Usenet was largely a failure. Use of both these neologisms reflects a strong revulsion against the theft and
[newbie] Gateway Solo 9300 and Xfree86
From: "Larry Marshall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 2:58 AMSubject: Re: [newbie] Gateway Solo 9300 XL LCD screen How do you change the settings for X under the command line? I have noclue. I have been looking in all the available folders but did not find asingle reference to X. I also tried to write xconf, Xconf, xconfigurator andso on to no avail. Take a look at /usr/X11R6. Xconfigurator (note the uppercase X) is agraphic display which is why Paul (I think) suggested that you install a low-res X using vanilla VGA drivers. This will provide easy access to setup.Otherwise, you're going to have to do some homework and start editing the controlfiles in the directories mentioned above. A directory that might be overlooked is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11.I've reinstalled the system at least 5 times already. I tried the smallestthing that could work, that is an LCD monitor of 640x480 with 256 colors andthe chipset being the Rage Mobility P which is the one in the laptop. When Igo to test the screen becomes white with lines crossing it and that's it. IfI wait it does not go back to the previous setting so I can try anotherresolution. The only option is then to restart the computer, delete thepartitions and start all over again. I did send a message to Gateway askingfor the range of horizontal and vertical sync as suggested but no answer hascome yet. In the manuals or the web there is no information about thatdetail.Anyone has any other suggestions I might try? Any links to more information?I think once I saw a page that had the ranges of sync for many monitors butI could not find that again. Is there any one out there with this laptop anda linux distribution with it? Or has any one a suggestion for posting onanother newsgroup? I would like to post on alt.os.linux andalt.os.linux.mandrake, but the free server I'm connecting to does not allowme to post.Jose
[newbie] What is w3m?
I read that Netscape is quite a memory hog (worst after X ). In my reading it was suggested that I try w3m instead but with no mention of what w3m is or where to find it. Anyone know? Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] What is w3m?
I read that Netscape is quite a memory hog (worst after X ). In my reading it was suggested that I try w3m instead but with no mention of what w3m is or where to find it. Anyone know? It's somewhat worse than a memory hog, it's got memory leaks, meaning that if you load it, use it, and exit the program you're often left with less memory space available than there was before you initiated Netscape. w3m is a text mode browser. Definitely small so if you don't mind giving up graphics you might like it. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] RPM download site for kernel.
In a message dated 01-Oct-00 17:21:18 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/ im not sure which rpms i will need can you give me a list of required rpms i will need to upgrade???
[newbie] Re: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake
From: "Fernando F." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:54 PM Subject: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake Hi I also have a gateway solo 9300 xl and have the same problem when trying to install mandrake. Im also looking for a solution. If i find something interesting i will email you. Please do the same with me. Best regards Fernando I just found a newsgroup called comp.os.linux.portable where someone said to use the monitor LCD 1024x768. I did email this guy and ask him for a bit more detail. I'm trying to find a news server that lets me post messages and I will post the message there. From looking at dejanews seems that there is quite a few people with this laptop in there. In the mean time I'm going to give it another try to install mandrake. ;) Jose
Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
it should already be mounted or atleast mine was when i installed linux, try cd /mnt/windows/Program%Files im not sure about the % it is only because unix based systems dont recognize spaces in a folder name In a message dated 01-Oct-00 16:48:35 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mount the C drive under Linux, "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk" and then go to it by typing "cd /mnt/disk/"Program Files"" oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried every command I can think of.
[newbie] Eterm
Everytime I set the background transparency and then save current settings, the next time I open eterm its back to the black screen. I had at one time eterm setup so a different background was displyed each time I opened Eterm. Can anyone tell me how to get back to this? -- Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] System - Repartitioning Disk for Linux...
Re: [newbie] Re: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake
From: "Jose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:42 PM Subject: [newbie] Re: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake From: "Fernando F." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:54 PM Subject: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake Hi I also have a gateway solo 9300 xl and have the same problem when trying to install mandrake. Im also looking for a solution. If i find something interesting i will email you. Please do the same with me. Best regards Fernando I just found a newsgroup called comp.os.linux.portable where someone said to use the monitor LCD 1024x768. I did email this guy and ask him for a bit more detail. I'm trying to find a news server that lets me post messages and I will post the message there. From looking at dejanews seems that there is quite a few people with this laptop in there. In the mean time I'm going to give it another try to install mandrake. ;) I found this message in comp.os.linux.portable Kevin Craft wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody put linux on a new gateway 9300? Yes. in particular, is the ati mobile chipset supported in the svga driver? can i run it in 1280x1024 mode on the 15" screen? Ay, there's the rub. So far I've been unable to get the ATI Mobility card working with X... it doesn't appear to be recognized by the SVGA driver, or the Mach64 driver (which is probably what should be used for this card). I've tried downloading the latest X server (3.3.5) from xfree86.org, but still no luck. It does actually go into X, but the display is all jittery and there are lots of horizontal lines, essentially unusable. I've got a post out on that particular problem, so I'll let you know. It's working great here. I'm using SVGA 3.3.5 and the Mach64 driver. The only hitch was adding a line in lilo.conf (providing your kernel is compiled to handle VGA mode modification, under RH 6.0 it's all set.)...after I adjusted lilo.conf it started working great image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 vga=792 label=linux root=/dev/hda5 read-only Just add the 'vga=792' line, run lilo and reboot... and what about the ESS 1978S chipset for sound? Hmmm... haven't looked at sound yet. No luck here either -K -- Posted via CNET Linux Help -- http://www.searchlinux.com
Re: [newbie] Eterm
Jon Doe wrote: Everytime I set the background transparency and then save current settings, the next time I open eterm its back to the black screen. I had at one time eterm setup so a different background was displyed each time I opened Eterm. Can anyone tell me how to get back to this? -- Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] System - Repartitioning Disk for Linux... Select xterm Konsole. It has extra options. Click on xterm, right-click in the middle of xterm. Just to the right should appear a dropdown menu. Choose Schema and ensure that you have placed a check mark next to one of the option. Select Save Options. Close xterm and restart it. That's it. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Support Linux drivers: http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
Charles A Edwards wrote: I hate to disagree with Alan but I support markO,s view. [snip] Charleswhat makes you think we disagree? Alan
Re: [newbie] Re: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake
From: "Jose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake From: "Jose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:42 PM Subject: [newbie] Re: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake From: "Fernando F." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jose" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:54 PM Subject: Gateway Solo 9300 XL and Mandrake Hi I also have a gateway solo 9300 xl and have the same problem when trying to install mandrake. Im also looking for a solution. If i find something interesting i will email you. Please do the same with me. Best regards Fernando I just found a newsgroup called comp.os.linux.portable where someone said to use the monitor LCD 1024x768. I did email this guy and ask him for a bit more detail. I'm trying to find a news server that lets me post messages and I will post the message there. From looking at dejanews seems that there is quite a few people with this laptop in there. In the mean time I'm going to give it another try to install mandrake. ;) I found this message in comp.os.linux.portable Kevin Craft wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody put linux on a new gateway 9300? Yes. in particular, is the ati mobile chipset supported in the svga driver? can i run it in 1280x1024 mode on the 15" screen? Ay, there's the rub. So far I've been unable to get the ATI Mobility card working with X... it doesn't appear to be recognized by the SVGA driver, or the Mach64 driver (which is probably what should be used for this card). I've tried downloading the latest X server (3.3.5) from xfree86.org, but still no luck. It does actually go into X, but the display is all jittery and there are lots of horizontal lines, essentially unusable. I've got a post out on that particular problem, so I'll let you know. It's working great here. I'm using SVGA 3.3.5 and the Mach64 driver. The only hitch was adding a line in lilo.conf (providing your kernel is compiled to handle VGA mode modification, under RH 6.0 it's all set.)...after I adjusted lilo.conf it started working great image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 vga=792 label=linux root=/dev/hda5 read-only Just add the 'vga=792' line, run lilo and reboot... and what about the ESS 1978S chipset for sound? Hmmm... haven't looked at sound yet. No luck here either -K -- Posted via CNET Linux Help -- http://www.searchlinux.com Finally this will probably have all the information needed: http://mug.sys.virginia.edu/~drf5n/non_ms/rh6-solo9300.html for other laptops look at this link: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
Re: [newbie] Eterm
Select xterm Konsole. It has extra options. Click on xterm, right-click in the middle of xterm. Just to the right should appear a dropdown menu. Choose Schema and ensure that you have placed a check mark next to one of the option. Select Save Options. Close xterm and restart it. That's it. Thanks, but I am wanting to use Eterm as it will randomly change the background at each use.
RE: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
-Original Message- During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose to keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format. So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2 partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install This raises a couple of questions. (1) Must one reformat all the ext2 partitions? If you have any kind of extensive home directory that could be a pain. ON the other hand if your /home is on a different partition I can certainly see the benefit of formatting all BUT /home. It would get a rid of a lot of detritus that could trip you up later I suppose. Of course there you would also lose any optional installed packages and that could be a pain. (2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't remember if there was an "upgrade" choice. Thanks, -rick
Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
Goldenpi wrote: Sound like me. My obsession with getting every possable flop from my notebook is getting me in deep to windows 98. I have even gone to the length of removeing the icon for c:\mydocu~1 to save the time loading up. I have gone so far as to disable the warning that appears when the wiondows folder is opened. Today I had it apart while I put in a new processor. Its underclocked right now because it was overheating a bit. I actually renamed c:\my documents to c:\my_docs-and then edited the registry, ini files, everything so that windows wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I have moved as much as possable out of the windows folder. It is now the fastest (former) pentium 133Mhz with 16mi ram and 1gi hd you are likely to find. It is currently running at 166 but is rated for 200 when I solve the cooling problem. oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried every command I can think of. did you try: 'cd /Program?Files', remember that white space in a filename is legal in MACos and Windows but in few others.. Cheers - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting term hacker to me refers to a devoted computer user who loves to tweak and modify and know everything about the system and to get everything out of it they possibly can from performance to information, the fact that the GOV and large companys dont like it well i cant help that we want to learn about the system and they just happen to be part of it!!! just my opinion -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: [newbie] RPM download site for kernel.
markOpoleO wrote: I heard someone mentioning they up ugraded from 2.2.15 kernel to 2.2.16 by just downloading some RPM files..i looked everywere and can not locate these files. I looked at ftp.mandrake.com, rmfind.net, and any other place i could think of. Could someone give me the complete link to a ftp site i can download the RPM to update Kernel please? BTW is there any major change from 2.2.15 to 2.2.16 besides some security stuff...kernelnotes and kernel.org does not mention anything about 2.2.16 changes. Thanks, markOpoleO markany of the 7.1 update mirrors will have those rpm's, like: ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/7.1/RPMS/ for instance. There are 50 more world wide and their URL's can be found here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3 Alan
[newbie] MD 7.1
I started out with MD 6, first distro I could ever get loaded, worked great and pried me away from Warp 4. When MD 7 came out I purchased it and loaded it, but could never get the dialer to connect. In the mean time I ran a cross a copy of 2.4 Open linux, loaded it with no connection problems. Well got to misseing MD, figured it was a glich of some kind and recently picked up MD 7.1, still can't get connected. Tracked it down to messages in /var/log/messages, "all had bit 7 set to 0". The modem dials okay, even gets past "connect" but can't get past "starting pppd". I'm going to check the modem initalation strings, but would be greatful for any help. Marc
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
Rick: In reply to your second question, yes, 7.1 does have an upgrade option. I used it to move from 7.0 -- it took a long, long time -- hours as opposed to the 45 minutes or so that it took to install 7.0. Since there wasn't all that much non-distro stuff on the drive, it might have been a better idea to backup the data, clean the disk, install the newer Mandrake, configure and restore the data. -- Carroll Rick Commo wrote: -Original Message- snip (2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't remember if there was an "upgrade" choice. Thanks, -rick
Re: [newbie] Configuring my internet connection.
i use dsl, and i am having a hard time understanding the configuration on the networking part. i'm not sure if found my actual network card. but it shows a network card adapter. no name though. geez this is so frustrating. but all i know is that Mandrake 7.1 was easier to install rather than the redhat and suse distributions.
Re: [newbie] Hackers/crackers
On 1 Oct 2000, at 14:41, Austin L. Denyer wrote: Here is the 'official' definition, according to the Hacker Jargon File: = hacker: n. [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] 1. A erm, I didna see "Golf" mentioned anywhere in there... -- R. Edward McCain [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://taozen.hypermart.net ICQ: 599146
[newbie] Where is the elusive apps (disk 3) ?
Hello, I d/l'd the ISO images as per instructions and burned CDs and then did the install. The docs on the website only mention the "Inst" and "Ext" CDs, yet the install script as well as rpmdrake keeps asking for a "Disk 3". This would be the "Apps" disk I presume, and disks 1 and 2 would be the "Inst" and "Ext" disks, respectively. I would like to install a bunch of things that rpmdrake keeps asking for, keeping this an installation that is as clean as possible wrt Mandrake and the rpm system going to the sources that have been provided by mandrake. For instance, I found out upon installing identd that I needed to use the RH 6.1 version of the RPM instead of the RH 7 version. Of course I'll be installing much from source, but it sure would be nice if I could have the packages already bundled up by the Mandrake folks. A particlular example is StarOffice, rpmdrake lists the package as version 4.0.5-4mdk, but I can't find that rpm anywhere. Could someone point me to either (or both): 1.) The location of the iso image/rpm source that this version of mandrake refers to as "disk 3" (Mandrake 7.1 i386) 2.) the repository (if any) that mankrake maintains or uses for housing these rpms? (can't find it at RedHat or rpmfind.net). Thanks, Bradley.
[newbie] startx and memory
I seem to get the impression in my readings that booting into console (text) mode and then starting X by startx uses up less memory than booting directly into GUI - but I may have misunderstood because it was not stated very clearly. Is there any truth in that? Thanks. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: OT [newbie] Off-topic posts.
Ozz: Can't resist it -- I once had a boss who claimed that he learned to program in octal. The hard part was punching the holes in the cards with a nail file. (oh well, it is labeled off-topic, right..) -- Carroll "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: It also helps for programming. Those of us who can remember programming in raw hex using a 25-key keypad with a 7-segment LED display on a machine with only a few kilobytes of RAM know the importance of tight code. A lot of today's programmers wouldn't believe the applications we could write in a few kilobytes. Also, the tight code ran so much faster than today's bloatware... Oh well. Regards, Ozz.
RE: [newbie] startx and memory
What you're refering to is booting into run level 3 as opposed to run level 5. You can do either one, but need to make sure that the daemons started for each run level are the same, assuming that is what you want. Look under /etc/rc.d/... to check what you will be starting. You'll see an rc3.d and an rc5.d, that is where you will find those defs. in rc6.d you will find the kill processing as run level 6 is used for shutting down the system. you certainly will use less memory booting into run level 3 since X Windows isn't running, but I'm not sure that you would save any memory by starting into run level 3 and then running startx, since you are doing basically the same thing as starting into run level 5. Now, you can use the top program and other resources to compare, but the biggest advantage of run level three is that you don't have all that overhead by default from the get go. I like to run my servers this way, if I decide to have a "GUI on demand" that way, I don't have that overhead there for no good reason and when I do desire a GUI I can run startx. I wouldn't recomend this for user workstations, however, since just learning them folk to sign on correctly can be tough enough - let alone requiring them to start the X server after they have logged on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Malka Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 3:08 PM To: Linux Newbie Mandrake Subject: [newbie] startx and memory I seem to get the impression in my readings that booting into console (text) mode and then starting X by startx uses up less memory than booting directly into GUI - but I may have misunderstood because it was not stated very clearly. Is there any truth in that? Thanks. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
[newbie] ISO 7.1 Image Problem ??
Hi, I would appreciate hearing fromanyone who has hadsimilar problemsto that described below with the current 7.1 ISO images ? Its a very frustrating problem Thanks 2== Gary..I'd like to know why you get that error as well. I have 7.1 running on my machine but when I was dealing with setting up a new CDwriter I downloaded a set of iso images, burned some CDs and tried an install. I got the same darn error and wasn't able to get past it. I can tell you that it seems to have nothing to do with the hardware (as I said, I'm already running 7.1) and doesn't seem to have anything to do with burning iso images (I've since built iso disks for 7.2 and installed it on another machine). So, your guess is as good as mine. Just wanted to know you're not the only one who's experience it. Cheers --- Larry 1=== I havemadrake 6.5 installed on an AMD K-6 233 with 96M. Its running perfectly, but I want to do a reinstall to get more familiar with the process. I downloaded the CDROM iso images and booted from the install CDROM. Just after the SCSI probe completes, Linux begins "Loading second stage ramdisk" and then just as it appears to finish, up pop a dialog with "Error Loading Ramdisk" and the system hangs. I'd like to know - why I get this problem - how I could change to loading process to disable the ramdisk (or is it essential) ? Thanks --- _ Garry Black GGB Enterprises Ltd. Vancouver Canada
RE: [newbie] Configuring my internet connection.
Okay, Of course the best way to for you to do this is with ifconfig. type man ifconfig for the instructions. But given that you seem to lack an adequate understanding of IP routing maybe the best thing instead is to go through the GUI, which I DO NOT think is a good idea, although I will address the basics here, and you will probably find yourself even more confused with all of the choices that mean nothing. In the first scenario you need to also configure other scripts too, such as /etc/resolv.conf and some others so this just might be easier for you even though it is bad karma. first, you need to make sure that your link light on the flowpoint or netopia router is lit or there's no point. Now, go to your desktop and open drakconfig, then network configuration. start with the basic host configuration and on the first line enter "name_of_your_box.your_domain.TLD Then click the adapter1 tab and do the same thing on the first line (box). leave the second line blank or enter just "name_of_your_box" on the thrid line enter your IP addy and on the fourth your subnet mask. The fourth line should be eth0. The kernal module is really up to you - you should know what kind of NIC you have unless you bought the PC from a junk dealer like compusa. Click on accept. Now in the network configuration click on routing and gateways, then in the box that pops up choose default route. In the box that now pops up put inthe default gateway IP addy provided to you by your carrier (do not enable IP forwarding), and then accept, quit, quit. That's all. Activate changes. now... you still have to give you box a name for itself so it's not confused because it still thinks that it's name is "localhost.localdomain" or something stupid like that. from the shell prompt enter, "hostname name_of_your_box.your_domain.TLD" Now type "ping ns1.mindspring.com" if you get a response you're up and running! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cyrus pangilinan Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring my internet connection. i use dsl, and i am having a hard time understanding the configuration on the networking part. i'm not sure if found my actual network card. but it shows a network card adapter. no name though. geez this is so frustrating. but all i know is that Mandrake 7.1 was easier to install rather than the redhat and suse distributions.
[newbie] umount -o loop or what?
Hey list. How does one go about unmounting an image files from the dir that was created for it without it saying all the time its busy? I had to destructively rip it apart to unmount it rather than umount /directory I can mount -o loop /directory imagefile.img but I cannot undo it. Thanks
RE: [newbie] umount -o loop or what?
umount, not unmount. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vic Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] umount -o loop or what? Hey list. How does one go about unmounting an image files from the dir that was created for it without it saying all the time its busy? I had to destructively rip it apart to unmount it rather than umount /directory I can mount -o loop /directory imagefile.img but I cannot undo it. Thanks
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Rick: In reply to your second question, yes, 7.1 does have an upgrade option. I used it to move from 7.0 -- it took a long, long time -- hours as opposed to the 45 minutes or so that it took to install 7.0. Since there wasn't all that much non-distro stuff on the drive, it might have been a better idea to backup the data, clean the disk, install the newer Mandrake, configure and restore the data. -- Carroll I agree with this. The upgrade from mdk7.0 to mdk7.1 took 7 HOURS on my machine, and its a PIII @ 733mhz with 128 meg of ram. That is a loong time. Eryl
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
Erylon Hines wrote: On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Rick: In reply to your second question, yes, 7.1 does have an upgrade option. I used it to move from 7.0 -- it took a long, long time -- hours as opposed to the 45 minutes or so that it took to install 7.0. Since there wasn't all that much non-distro stuff on the drive, it might have been a better idea to backup the data, clean the disk, install the newer Mandrake, configure and restore the data. -- Carroll I agree with this. The upgrade from mdk7.0 to mdk7.1 took 7 HOURS on my machine, and its a PIII @ 733mhz with 128 meg of ram. That is a loong time. Eryl I don't understand what happens here, I upgraded my 7.0 and it took about 1.5 hrs to do a development upgrade. I run an AMD K6-II 400 Processor. I see all kinds of different run times and there does'nt seem to be any rhyme or reason. Any body have an idea why the spread in upgrade time? -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
The problem today is that most programmers write for a wide set of hardware. That is what has a lot of developers excited about MS's XBox gaming console. It uses PC parts and is standarized. They can write for the metal (err..silicon) instead of having to use hardware abstraction layers. That is why the XBox and other consoles make do with much less resourcesbecause every machine is exactly the same. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "List Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.] Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote a simple but functioning accounting system in it :) One of my colleagues once tried to write a program to calculate the performance characteristics of large-bore oil hoses, and ran out of memory on a 16k machine. I then wrote the thing myself in ... wait for it ... 450 BYTES! Needless to say, it was completely devoid of any eye candy, but it worked (well, I wrote it in an evening...) Out of interest, what machines were you using? How long ago? Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there... Oh yes. Some of the memory saving tricks were neat too. I used to use existing constants to save precious register space (pi/pi for 1, pi-pi for 0, etc.). Another advantage to programming at that level was this: You knew the value of each op. code. You knew the location in which you stored it in memory. Therefore, you could use these codes for constants too. For example, if the instruction LDA (LoaD Accumulator) was 0fh (15 decimal) and you had stored that instruction in memory location 02ff, then you could call the value 15 by pointing to 02ff. Self-modifying code was fun too, especially when someone else tried to parse it #;-D I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so, can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than 500Kbytes. I can't wait to get back into it with Linux. One of these days Regards, Ozz.
[newbie] Want High Security with Removable Devices Enabled
I have Linux Mandrake 7.2beta3 with Security set to HIGH and installed with the Custom Server Option. I want to be able to play music from my cd drive let alone view files from my floppy. Please help. All these options worked before when I had security set to Medium and opted for the Custom Developer setup. --Al Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, you wrote: -Original Message- During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose to keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format. So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2 partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install This raises a couple of questions. (1) Must one reformat all the ext2 partitions? not necessarily, but the original poster was wanting to upgrade from RH 5.xIn that case I wouldn't try anything but a format/install If you have any kind of extensive home directory that could be a pain. ON the other hand if your /home is on a different partition I can certainly see the benefit of formatting all BUT /home. doesn't make any difference, formatting in 7.x is *quick* (2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't remember if there was an "upgrade" choice. -rick I installed 7.2 b3 yesterday. As with every 'upgrade since 6.0, I save the personal and conf files I want to keep, and wipe the old system...and do a fresh install. It's better and quicker than an upgrade. BTW, upgrade in 7.2 is labeled 'rescue'. AND, 7.2 beta 3 is very rough around the edges. I can't recommend it for less than the adventurous. Wait for a release candidate or the final if you plan on upgrading to 7.2. Besides some obvious Mandrake system bugs, I don't believe KDE2 or XF-4 is entirely there yet either -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] how to compile a program from source
Thank you so much for your help, Anthony, Adam, and Micheal! That was
great! Wow! WHat a rush! And how easy! It's really pretty empowering
for a newbie to compile their first program like that! At least for me
it was. RPM's may be easier, but I really wanted to see how it was
done. Perhaps in a little bit of time I might be able to take a look at
the code and try to hack, customize, and (maybe one day) even contribute
to it. (not that I don't think it's take a lot of learning from here
till then) That's why I wanted to try one program from source. Thanks
a lot, guys. That really was great!
-Paul R
Anthony wrote:
This is one of the most common newbie questions, and one that gave me fits
before I figured out the "secret".
First off, I suggest rpm's instead of doing it by source. RPM's are just plain
easier. But if you're stuck on source, or need the source for some reason...
Untar the file. ("tar -xvzf the_program.tar.gz")
Go into the directory that the above command created (usually "cd the_program")
Read the readme file in there. It contains more detailed instructions. However
99% of the programs follow these procedures:
Type "./configure" and wait for it to configure
Type "make" and wait for it to compile
Type "su" to go to root
Type "make install" to install the program
And then your done.
If you get an error during the ./configure stage, it's probally because you
dont' have the library it needs. You can try searching for it at rpmfind.net,
and sometimes that'll solve the problem. The easiest way to not get those kind
of errors is to just install ALL the developmental libraries during
installation. It'll solve so many headaches in the long run.
Anybody know where I can find some good documentation on compiling
different sorts of programs from the source-code. I wanna try to
compile and install gaim as my first try.
--
Anthony
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Re: [newbie] MD 7.1
Marc Popejoy wrote: I started out with MD 6, first distro I could ever get loaded, worked great and pried me away from Warp 4. When MD 7 came out I purchased it and loaded it, but could never get the dialer to connect. In the mean time I ran a cross a copy of 2.4 Open linux, loaded it with no connection problems. Well got to misseing MD, figured it was a glich of some kind and recently picked up MD 7.1, still can't get connected. Tracked it down to messages in /var/log/messages, "all had bit 7 set to 0". The modem dials okay, even gets past "connect" but can't get past "starting pppd". I'm going to check the modem initalation strings, but would be greatful for any help. Marc That error message is to do with 'authentication' between the two modems. I can't remember what the fix is but there is a real good tutorial about setting up 'pppd' entitled: "PPPd Dial on Demand, and IP Masquerading" - which I think you will find on the RedHat site - This is one article which discusses this problem. I have no doubt there are others. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
RE: [newbie] Where is the elusive apps (disk 3) ?
1.) The location of the iso image/rpm source that this version of mandrake refers to as "disk 3" (Mandrake 7.1 i386) Stumbled across the same thing installing packages. When I inserted the x86 Apps disk it seemed happy and finished the install. -rick
Re: OT [newbie] Off-topic posts.
Paul R wrote: So what do you use it for? -Paul R Yup and I still have a working 6502 Sym-1 from Synertek (circa 1975) Wouldn't let it go for .. either !! Runs 24/7, still my only means of burning EPROMS, is the front end of a security system, and monitors my rainguage. Runs 32KB of 2114 static ram on 8 boards of 4kb each. The security system is a bit over 2kb in length and the eprom burner is written in BASIC with a few small chunks of machine code to manage the critical timing parts of the burn. I use a qwerty keyboard which was released by Synertec at about the same time. The monitor is a modified 11" portable TV. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
RE: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1
It was Oct 1, 2000, 16:27, when Rick Commo keyboarded: (1) Must one reformat all the ext2 partitions? Nope. You can select the partition you want to format, even go without any formatting. (2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't remember if there was an "upgrade" choice. There IS an upgrade option. I have used it from Redhat 5.2 to Mandrake 6.0, 6.1, 7.0 and 7.1. So I am pretty certain. ;) Paul -- The Tao that is seen Is not the true Tao, Until you bring fresh toner. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] MD 7.1 -- modem authentication
Dear John: If you can connect and then suddenly after "starting pppd" your modem tries to reconnect, then try the following to solve the authentication problem: Open /etc/ppp/options in a text editor. You should find just one word in it, namely, the word "lock". Now add the word "noauth" right beneath it as follows: lock noauth SAVE your file and REBOOT. This should solve your problem. It did mine. Yours, Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
RE: [newbie] Where is the elusive apps (disk 3) ?
Sorry for the extraneous post, I realized later that I had misread the message. -rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Commo Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Where is the elusive "apps" (disk 3) ? 1.) The location of the iso image/rpm source that this version of mandrake refers to as "disk 3" (Mandrake 7.1 i386) Stumbled across the same thing installing packages. When I inserted the x86 Apps disk it seemed happy and finished the install. -rick
[newbie] mm 1.0.12
Where can I find " MM 1.0.12 " app -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: OT [newbie] Antique systems [was: Off-topic posts.]
John Rye wrote: Paul wrote: It was Sep 30, 2000, 16:48, when Austin L. Denyer keyboarded: I remember having many hours of fun with the Z80 as well (actually an 8080A). I had a version of the old arcade game 'Space Invaders' that ran in under one kilobyte of RAM! Eat yer heart out, Mr. Gates... Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote a simple but functioning accounting system in it :) Oh, the delights of having to load every calculation into the accumulator for every operation. The fun of having to initialize the data direction of a port before you could use it. The pain of placing redundant instructions inside nested loops to achieve time delays, calculated manually by the instruction time for each operation. Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there... The programmers of today don't know they're born... One of the beauties of Linux is that it allows you to get back to tight code, and real optimizations, rather than the slow bloatware of other systems. I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so, can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than 500Kbytes. For an example of tight (and I mean TRICKY TIGHT! ) aquire and reverse engineer the original Microsoft BASIC. What had been around 48K on the PDP-11 was packed into a 4k ROM. A trully brilliant bit of optimising of existing code segments. Can't for the life of me remember who the work was attributed too - but I rather think he'd be a rather rich dude these days. Remembered the authors' name... Gates, William !!! -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: [newbie] RAM hog
I am a newbie too but I found a lot of useful information on the topic at www.mandrakeuser.org which I just discovered. Hope that helps. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Roxane Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 3:08 AM Subject: [newbie] RAM hog I just installed Linux-mandrake 6.0 and once I'm in the desktop environment about 2 to 5 minutes later the system freezes on me. I can't open a program for very long without it freezing up on me. Why is it using so much RAM? I have 64MB of RAM. What can I do to optimize the system? Roxane
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Re: [newbie] RAM hog
Roxane Bennett wrote: I just installed Linux-mandrake 6.0 and once I'm in the desktop environment about 2 to 5 minutes later the system freezes on me. I can't open a program for very long without it freezing up on me. Why is it using so much RAM? I have 64MB of RAM. What can I do to optimize the system? Roxane Roxane: Just an obsrvation: I'm not familiar with LM 6.0, but 64 mb should be OK -- it's probably as much as most of on the list have on our systems. Linux does a very good job of managing memory. Could we have some more information about your system? That would be a big help to Those Who Know What They're Doing. -- Carroll (who remembers upgrading his Exidy Sorcerer from 16 kb to 32 kb to fix his RAM problems)
