[newbie-it] Installazione impossibile
aiuto ho una mandrake 7.2 presa da linuxc. provo ad installarla tramite boot da cd e miappare la prima schermata (quella col pinguino e la scelta "premi f1 o enter"). do enter e mi viene lo schermo nero. provo a fare ctrl+alt+canc e niente, premo il tasto di reboot e niente. ripeto e al posto di enter do f1. stessa cosa ho provato a dare la stringa vgalo, ma non cambiato niente. Sono disperato linux non si vuole installare. adesso ho installata la mandrake 7.1 ma volevo fare l'upgrade... Ho un PII 233, 128 MB ram Riva TNT2 Ultra a 32 MB (tutta roba che funzia con la 7.1) Nessun disapositivo SCSI. Ho una partizione con Win98 (e me ne vergogno). A chiunque mi aiuti grazie:
Re: [newbie-it] programmazione e tastiera..............
Il 19:02, sabato 24 febbraio 2001, scrivesti: ciao a tutti , dunque il mio problema questo: tutti i linguaggi di programmazione utilizzano ad esempio le parentesi graffe , bene io possiedo una tastiera italiana 105 tasti e... naturalmente le graffe non ci sono Come si pu rimediare a questo? Prova, tenendo premuto "Alt Gr", a premere i tasti alla sinistra di "back-space". Tommaso
Re: [newbie-it] Modem Conexant. Ci sono RIUSCITO!!!!!!
--- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain To distribute the attached message in list newbie-it : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=CONFIRM%20adf23f7efd55ecbb186891dfaa760f86 Or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following subject : CONFIRM adf23f7efd55ecbb186891dfaa760f86 --- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by yavin.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3791D385 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10723 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:56:06 -0600 Received: from localhost.localdomain (151.21.200.76) by smtp3.libero.it (5.5.022) id 3A93915D000CA40E for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:56:06 +0100 From: Tommaso Leddi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:56:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 000201c09e7e$db8b9600$d0780a3e@unknow In-Reply-To: 000201c09e7e$db8b9600$d0780a3e@unknow Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Modem Conexant. Ci sono RIUSCITO!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Il 17:11, sabato 24 febbraio 2001, scrivesti: Sono riuscito a far funzionare il mio Conexant Soft56 con chip Rockwell sotto MDK7.2. L'unico problema che devo lanciare kppp pi d'una volta, perch ai primi tentativi mi compare il messaggio NO DIALTON. Qualche suggerimento? Magari dipende dai comandi AT del modem? Non so se abbiamo lo stesso problema. Io ho dovuto cambiare una stringa AT nella configurazione del modem, per la stringa di chiamata: ATL3X3DT% che credo sia la norma nei modem italiani. Tommaso
[newbie-it] NFS
Recentemente ho provato a installare uno scanner ScanMaker Microtek e in questa avventura mi sono arenato nel settaggio del NFS che probabilmente non centra nulla. Vi racconto cos mi dite dove ho sbagliato. Prima di tutto ho provato tra i vari programmi grafici gi installati in Mandrake, sperando di trovarne uno che gestisce gli scanner. Non l'ho trovato. C' invece? Poi mi sono informato e mi hanno detto che il programma che cerco sane. Ho scaricato l'RPM anche se pare ci fosse gi. Ho provato a installarlo senza successo perch mancano varie librerie. La stessa cosa vale per xsane che credo sia l'interfaccia utente. Dopo aver perso un sacco di tempo (scusatemi ma sono proprio alle prime armi) cercando queste librerie in rete (tra l'altro localizzate in siti mandrake), mi sono deciso a usare RpmDrake. Armato di manuale ho visto che si pu usare un server FTP come supporto, quindi, se ho ben capito, collegarmi direttamente con il sito Mandrake per tirare gi in modo pi organizzato, quello che mi manca. A questo punto mi compare il messaggio: Fatal Error RpmDrake was unable to find any package Please, check your installation if you made an NFS install, check the NFS directories are still correctly mounted. Cosa devo fare a questo punto? Mi conviene insistere su NFS, configurare (come si fa?) (come si fa a controllare che le directories NFS siano correttamente montate?) o provare su un altro fronte. Abilitare NFS non mi comporta dei problemi suplementari di sicurezza? grazie dell'attenzione, Tommaso
[newbie-it] Blocco kde
Spesso mi si blocca il kde e non riesco a fare altro che resettare di brutto il pc. Qualcuno sa se si tratta di un bug?(mdk 7.2). Ciao e grazie. Chieder è lecito, rispondere è cortesia.
Re: [newbie-it] NFS
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:25:09 +0100 Tommaso Leddi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Fatal Error RpmDrake was unable to find any package Please, check your installation if you made an NFS install, check the NFS directories are still correctly mounted. Cosa devo fare a questo punto? Mi conviene insistere su NFS, configurare (come si fa?) (come si fa a controllare che le directories NFS siano correttamente montate?) o provare su un altro fronte. Abilitare NFS non mi comporta dei problemi suplementari di sicurezza? Credo che tu abbia preso una strada sbagliata, che non ti porter a niente (almeno per lo scanner!). Su rpmdrake non so dirti perch non lo uso e su nfs, se non sai a cosa serve, credo che non ti serva proprio, quindi puoi disattivarlo aumentando la sicurezza. Sane gi installato su mdk perci il tuo problema credo che sia lo scanner, se supportato o meno. Se parallelo le possibilit sono pochine, molte di pi se usb (o scsi), comunque qui http://www.buzzard.org.uk/jonathan/scanners.html trovi una lista dei paralleli supportati oppure sulla home page di sane http://panda.mostang.com/sane/ Se trovi anche il tuo non dovrebbe poi essere difficile farlo riconoscere al sistema. Ciao -- Sebastiano Cordiano
[newbie-it] Configurazione modem USB
Ho da poco installato Mandrake 7.2 durante l'installazione "Automatica" non mi ha chiesto nulla sulle porte USB e sulle periferiche ad esse connesse (Modem STMicroelectronics V90 USB), e da quello che ho visto dopo l'installazione le ignora completamente tanto che USBView non trova nulla. Durante il boot però ho notato il "Loading USB devices", come faccio per configurare il mio modem USB e poi la connessione ad internet? Vi ringrazio anticipatamente per le vostre risposte e chiedo scusa per le mie domande ma sono un principiante. Nino' 76
[newbie-it] Partizioni impazzite
Ho 2 HDD uno da 15Gb e uno da 1.2Gb. Sul primo ho Windows 98 e 2 partizioni C (primaria) e D(estesa), sull'altro ho installato Mandrake7.2, al riavvio Linux ha montato entrambe le partizioni di win, ma windows di D non ne vuole + sapere la vede come partizione non-dos, cosa è successo?, che faccio evitando di perdere i dati importantissimi che ho sotto win? Nino ' 76
Re: [newbie-it] aiuto sono in panne
On Sunday 25 February 2001 02:16, lobaxteen wrote: mi successa una cosa stranissima :ho chiuso la sessione per entrare un attimo in winnoz per fare un lavoretto di manutenzione su ie dopo 2 minuti ho cercato di rientrare il linux e dice: chek forzato, nella partizione hda 7c' un errore e non ce la fa a passare poi mi dice: o fai control d (e si blocca di nuovo)o inserisci la pass per la manutenzione,mi dice anche di fare qualche cosa con fdsk ma non capisco che cosa ,qualc'uno ha un'idea di cosa posso fare? ti dice in pratica di fare un fsck manuale, senza i parametri con cui viene lanciato di solito. inserisci la password do root e dai fsck /dev/hdXX (partizione di root) partira' l'fsck (che e' lo scandisk in pratica) rispondi yes a tutte le domande e tutto dovrebbe tornare a funzionare. Se lo fa spesso, potrebbe esserci qualche problema, ma per una volta non preoccuparti. man fsck (i man ci sono anche in italiano, direi) -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia www.acidlife.com/aciderror/freefred Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - www.davidebanda.nelweb.net ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: [newbie-it] Modem Conexant. Ci sono RIUSCITO ANCH'IO!!!!!!
CI SONO RIUSCITO ANCH'IO!!! Sì, miracolo, sono connesso ad internet da Linux con il mio modem Conexant Soft K56... però anche a me da' il messaggio NO DIALTONE per i primi 4 o 5 tentativi ... Ho provato a mettere la stringa di chiamata a: ATL3X3DT% ma non è cambiato nulla! Qualche suggerimento? Ciao Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Il 17:11, sabato 24 febbraio 2001, scrivesti: Sono riuscito a far funzionare il mio Conexant Soft56 con chip Rockwell sotto MDK7.2. L'unico problema è che devo lanciare kppp più d'una volta, perché ai primi tentativi mi compare il messaggio NO DIALTON. Qualche suggerimento? Magari dipende dai comandi AT del modem? Non so se abbiamo lo stesso problema. Io ho dovuto cambiare una stringa AT nella configurazione del modem, per la stringa di chiamata: ATL3X3DT% che credo sia la norma nei modem italiani. Tommaso
Re: [newbie-it] NFS
Grazie Sebastiano della risposta! Fatal Error RpmDrake was unable to find any package Please, check your installation if you made an NFS install, check the NFS directories are still correctly mounted. Cosa devo fare a questo punto? Mi conviene insistere su NFS, configurare (come si fa?) (come si fa a controllare che le directories NFS siano correttamente montate?) o provare su un altro fronte. Abilitare NFS non mi comporta dei problemi suplementari di sicurezza? Credo che tu abbia preso una strada sbagliata, che non ti porter a niente (almeno per lo scanner!). Su rpmdrake non so dirti perch non lo uso Ora basta farlo partire (rpmdrake) per avere il messaggio di Fatal error. Ho provato anche a resettare i supporti nelle preferenze, ma continua a darmi quell'errore. e su nfs, se non sai a cosa serve, credo che non ti serva proprio, quindi puoi disattivarlo aumentando la sicurezza. Sane gi installato su mdk perci il tuo problema credo che sia lo scanner, se supportato o meno. Lo scanner scsi e appare nella configurazione. Non riesco a capire come fare a far incontrare sane con lo scanner. Voglio dire: sane non appare nel men e non riesco a chiamarlo neppure da shell o da "esegui comando". Scusate la domanda se stupida, ma mi mancano delle informazioni su come attivare sane. ciao, e grazie ancora. Tommaso
Re: [newbie-it] Blocco kde
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 11:50:45AM +0100, Loris wrote: Spesso mi si blocca il kde e non riesco a fare altro che resettare di brutto il pc. Qualcuno sa se si tratta di un bug?(mdk 7.2). Ciao e grazie. Chieder lecito, rispondere cortesia. In effetti il Kde 2.0 proprio perfetto non . Sul sito Mandrake trovi gli updates alla 2.0.1 che ha ridotto molto i crash. E' un download lunghetto ma non impossibile...La directory quella standard per gli uploads. -- Fabio Coatti http://www.ferrara.linux.it/members/cova Ferrara Linux Users Group http://ferrara.linux.it GnuPG fp:9765 A5B6 6843 17BC A646 BE8C FA56 373A 5374 C703 Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password.
Re: [newbie-it] aggiornamento di glibc
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 03:55:53PM +0100, Eugenio Odorifero wrote: Pentium 233Mhz 64Mb HD20MB Mandrake 7.2 Salve, vorrei fare l'upgrade alla libreria glibc2.2.2 (richiestissimo a sua volta per ulteriori upgrade). Ho provato di tutto per aggiornarlo ma: - Mandrake Update, dopo aver saturato le risorse di sistema, manda in trashing il sistema per oltre mezz'ora (e qualche volta in crash)- comportamento molto strano visto che per pacchetti di aggiornamento anche piu' grandi prende molte meno risorse. - Uscendo da X, in shell, con rpm da linea di comando, dopo un paio di minuti si uccide direttamente il processo senza nessun risultato. Cosa non va? Dove ho sbagliato? Il pacchetto rpm ha degli errori? Devo aggiornare altre librerie prima di questa? Quali? Potresti avere il database RPM un po' in crisi. Prova con un rpm --rebuilddb, dovrebbero andare a posto un po' di cose. -- Fabio Coatti http://www.ferrara.linux.it/members/cova Ferrara Linux Users Group http://ferrara.linux.it GnuPG fp:9765 A5B6 6843 17BC A646 BE8C FA56 373A 5374 C703 Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password.
Re: [newbie-it] programmazione e tastiera..............
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 01:44:03AM -0800, Tommaso Leddi wrote:
Il 19:02,
sabato 24 febbraio 2001, scrivesti:
ciao a tutti ,
dunque il mio problema questo:
tutti i linguaggi di programmazione utilizzano ad esempio le parentesi
graffe , bene io possiedo una tastiera italiana 105 tasti e...
naturalmente le graffe non ci sono
Come si pu rimediare a questo?
Prova, tenendo premuto "Alt Gr", a premere i tasti alla sinistra di
"back-space".
Se hai un setup standard:
AltGr+7 - {
AltGr+8 - [
AltGr+9 - ]
AltGr+0 - }
AltGr+' - `
AltGr+ - ~
--
Fabio Coatti http://www.ferrara.linux.it/members/cova
Ferrara Linux Users Group http://ferrara.linux.it
GnuPG fp:9765 A5B6 6843 17BC A646 BE8C FA56 373A 5374 C703
Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password.
[newbie-it] Kppp
Ciao! Ho effettuato un aggiornamento a Mandrake 7.2 installando i pacchetti contenuti nel cd di LinuxC. di questo mese, tramite Mandrake Update (esclusi i pacchetti mgetty); durante la stessa sessione ho installato anche Xine; dopo di allora, da Gnome non riesco pi a lanciare Kppp come user, ricevendo il seguente messaggio di errrore: kppp: error in loading shared libraries: libxalflaunch.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Come root da Gnome, invece, tutto okay; tutto okay anche usando KDE sia come utente che come root... Qualche suggerimento, per favore? Grazie. Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] programmazione e tastiera..............
AltGr+7 - {
AltGr+8 - [
AltGr+9 - ]
AltGr+0 - }
AltGr+' - `
AltGr+ - ~
Un ringraziamento a tutti ,
questo effettivamente funziona!
sky
Re: [newbie] CUPS
On Saturday 24 February 2001 14:00, you wrote: Can someone tell me, what HP driver do I choose for a DeskJet 648c I don't see that one listed...in 7.2 cups I used the HP 660C. Works good. -- Jay ~May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend~ http://www.mrsnooky.com
[newbie] Printing from Star Office
My printer works just fine from all applications except Star Office Apps. Then it just prints gibberish. Is it outputting in Postscript? I have selected configured my printer in SO, but it just doesn't work right. How do you...? -- Cheers! -Ron
Re: [newbie] X Question - URGENT
The problem seems to be your screen resution. X is running in 1024x768 but the screen is only running in 640x480. I suggest reconfigureing the vid card with drakeconfig. If you cant get to 1024x768 then use a generic. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Harrison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 3:57 AM Subject: [newbie] X Question - URGENT I am running SuSE 6.0 on a 450 mhz AMD K6-2 w/ 3dnow and when X comes up it is huge. How do I specify the screen size before X loads. I set all resolutions in the X configuration to 1024-768. What is the command to load X at that size. Thank for any help. Matt
Re: [newbie] X Question - URGENT
First off, it says he's running SUSE.I dont think SUSE has Drakeconfig.I would send this message to a SUSE list and find the tool that SUSE uses.I believe YAST has a entry for xconfig in it,not sure though...
RE: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
I will keep that one in mind,, but having been asked this question before a couple of times, I don't think its as funny as I used to think. :-) Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2001 1:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. Maybe your clients could use this one too. http://web14.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859 M. It lists "Marilyn O" as the author. I'm sure only Compaq's very best get asked to tackle such a project. I'll bet she has a very bright future at there!
RE: [newbie] httpd-perl cannot determine local host name
is there anything in your /etc/hostname file??? Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mongenix Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2001 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] httpd-perl cannot determine local host name During boot and when I restart httpd with /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart, I receive an error that says: Starting httpd: httpd-perl: cannot determine local host name Use the ServerName directive to set it manually and then it Fails. The problem is that I am trying to set up emumail and it wont work, I assume because I have to reset httpd and it fails, this is why it wont work. I have searched and entered information in every conf file I could find. Can someone tell me where I missed setting someting up correctly. Thnx
Re: [newbie] Yet another question.
I am a newbie too, so I jump at the chance to answer a question the proper way to shutdown would be something like: shutdown -h now the -h passes the halt command to the shutdown scripts and is, as I have read, the cleanest way to shutdown your machine. Matthew Harrison wrote: As I am a total newbie to linux, I have a question on how exactly do I use the shutdown command to shutdown the computer. Right now I have to just let it reboot and shutdown as soon as it resets. Thanks. Matt -- "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, is probably the day Microsoft starts making vacuum cleaners." - Ernst Jan Plugge
RE: RE: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
Or possibly we just enjoy our moment of amusement and amazement at the immaturity shown, laugh at the web page and then get on with aiding and abetting the assistance that most of us joined the list for? regards Daryl [snip] Subject: Re: RE: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. snip This one HAS got to be a joke! Right. If not, then I would like to see a show of hands for all those in favor of us each sending to him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mickey page that Romanator was so kind as to have saved and sent us. [snip]
[newbie] more telnet and ftp woes
Good Morning, I'm a Linux newbie (with a little Solaris experience) stumped by this one - I can't get ftp or telnet access to my Linux box from a second PC. I have LM 7.2 loaded from a downloaded iso image (just 1st CD), loaded into an existing partition and configured as a "Recommended installation" type, I've chosen the "install all packages" option. After searching the list archives, "ntsysv" allowed me to set up inet to run on boot. /etc/inetd.conf now has lots of processes available - including FTP and telnet. And I no longer get a "Connection refused" message, as I did before. However, I still can't connect. When I FTP from my NT box (capella) to the LM box (betelgeuse) I get: Connected to betelgeuse. Connection closed by remote host. /etc/hosts.deny is empty, I've tried adding a line containing just "capella" to /etc/hosts.allow, makes no difference. /etc/hosts has an entry for capella - "ping capella" works fine. I've tried creating a /etc/hostname containing just "capella" without resolving it. I have an xterm session working fine (Hummingbird Exceed), and can get the Gnome desktop up with an XDMCP broadcast - so I have an NT taskbar (which I keep at the top of the screen) and a Gnome panel-bar (I don't know the correct term) displayed on the same screen. Wonderful! Now if only I could get FTP working I could actually shift some stuff across... Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Suggestions would be most welcome, Thanks in advance, Thomas.
Re: [newbie] X problems
i have put it on fbdev and it works fine.
Re: [newbie] system sounds
Hi Kit, Installing Alsa sounds like a good idea to me. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, KompuKit wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:59:44 -0500 From: KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED], Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] system sounds I can't get any system sounds... I hear Licq sounds, MP3s, midi's, wavs...if clicked on separately... but not any systems sounds...why? do i need to install ALSA
RE: [newbie] Yet another question.
Hi Matt you need to issue the following command "shutdown -h now" (without the quotation marks) you can also check "man shutdown" for all available options Ingo -Original Message- From: Matthew Harrison [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 25, 2001 12:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Yet another question. As I am a total newbie to linux, I have a question on how exactly do I use the shutdown command to shutdown the computer. Right now I have to just let it reboot and shutdown as soon as it resets. Thanks. Matt application/ms-tnef
Re: [newbie] Crazy??
Roman, Pine 4.31 reads it just fine, but why in the world are you posting this stuff to the list? Have you been earing too many expresso beans or something? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:44:45 -0500 From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Crazy?? Can any one read this attachment?
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
Um...yeah. that would be my take on it. Roman is, after all, the master of thread and controversy creation. :) -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, philomena wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:45:10 -0500 From: philomena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. this has got to be a joke, right ? just inciting the continuation of these responses ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please take me off this newbie list can't stand all this mail
RE: RE: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
Say! now there's a thought. What a concept! -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Daryl Johnson wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:01:33 - From: Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. Or possibly we just enjoy our moment of amusement and amazement at the immaturity shown, laugh at the web page and then get on with aiding and abetting the assistance that most of us joined the list for? regards Daryl [snip] Subject: Re: RE: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. snip This one HAS got to be a joke! Right. If not, then I would like to see a show of hands for all those in favor of us each sending to him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mickey page that Romanator was so kind as to have saved and sent us. [snip]
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
prolly wasn't aware of the sheer volume of messages on a daiy basis. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Anthony Daniell wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:45:48 +1000 From: Anthony Daniell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. why join a list if you can not handle the email Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "philomena" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. this has got to be a joke, right ? just inciting the continuation of these responses ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please take me off this newbie list can't stand all this mail
RE: [newbie] Yet another question.
Open a terminal window and type 'man shutdown' which should give you all the options available to you. The command line entry 'shutdown -h now' has always worked for me though like most I have occasionally had to crash out and have my hard drives checked ;o) regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matthew Harrison Sent: 25 February 2001 04:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Yet another question. As I am a total newbie to linux, I have a question on how exactly do I use the shutdown command to shutdown the computer. Right now I have to just let it reboot and shutdown as soon as it resets. Thanks. Matt
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
Are you joking? For real, is this really that hard? Sheesh... peace, Rog Registered Linux user #19071 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, adam wrote: Please take me off I can't even check my email without having 200 a day from people who don't know how to pick up a book...please thank's. - Original Message - From: Dale Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] boot.ini Well, not as easy as one would think. I have NT and Linux at work on same the machine, along with 98 and 2000.Maybe someone else knows away.I could post the procedure givin to me if you like. The one thing is you should be running lilo.Let me know if you would like the info and I will post from work today...
Re: [newbie] Add themes to theme manager on KDE2.1 beta 2
Um...you guys are making this harder then it really is. 1) open theme manager 2) click on the add button 3) insert cursor in the filter field 4) change .ktheme to read *.* and hit ENTER This will allow you to see all the theme .tar.gz files in the dir where you've naviaged to provided they are indeed there. 5) choose the theme you wish to install by a single click and then click "OK" 6) hit apply and you're done. Now...this works great with all themes prior to KDE2.0 themes. (KDE1.1.2) The themes for KDE2.0 and above are a bit different and don't seem to work so good. There's nothing really wrong with Theme Manager other then the fact that it looks for files with the .ktheme extension by default instead of looking for "All files" when the file dialog is opened. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 02:12:34 -0500 From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Add themes to theme manager on KDE2.1 beta 2 Michael O'Henly wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2001 14:10, Romanator wrote: That's all there is to it. There has to be more to it. I'm running KDE 2.1 Beta 2. I just downloaded Aquatica-KDE2.0.tar.gz from kde.themes.org and put it in a temp directory. Then I clicked on Add in the Themes Manager and navigated to the temp dir. First off, it's got a filter of *.ktheme so it can't see what I downloaded. If I append .ktheme to the filename -- or if I change the filter to *.gz -- I get a message saying "Theme does not contain a .themerc file". M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design Hi Michael, I know. I tried everything. Renaming, running install scripts - the whole 9 yards. I think the theme manager hasn't been finished. However, I have heard that they expect KDE2.1 to be released by the end of February. Roman
RE: [newbie] X Question - URGENT
I believe you use a tool called YaST2. regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale Kosan Sent: 25 February 2001 10:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] X Question - URGENT First off, it says he's running SUSE.I dont think SUSE has Drakeconfig.I would send this message to a SUSE list and find the tool that SUSE uses.I believe YAST has a entry for xconfig in it,not sure though...
Re: [newbie]
Rick, You forgot to include the link! chek out my listing on this newbie page on getting rid of extra boots listed! cheers! marianne
RE: [newbie] New install - Xwindows
try xconfigurator or XF86setup (I think thats right) they are both console apps that don't require x to be running to use them. Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Owens, Blaine C Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2001 4:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] New install - Xwindows After a new install my Xwindows has horizontal lines making most applications INCLUDING DrakConf applications basically unusable. Perhaps if I could get Xwindows working reasonably I could address some of the other problems I am having. I reinstalled this morning - still horizontal lines making most X applications INCLUDING DRAKCONF (smartass) basically unusable. If anybody who is not a smartass can give me a clue as to how to correct my Xwindows problem then I think I can figure the rest out for myself. The card according to Windows Device Manager is Trident 9685/9680/9682/9685/9382/9385-1 PCI It was discovered by the Mandrake install as Trident Microsystems TGUI9660 (generic) TGUI 9660/968x/968x All non-smart-asses - I cannot use DrakConf effectively because I can't even read most Xscreens because of this problem. I'm posting this to the Newbie list and not the expert list because I AM a newbie, but I am not an idiot. I know how to search the net and RTFM but after about 6 hours of frustration I post a question and the only response is to use an X app which I cannot even use because of the horizontal lines. Good grief! Blaine Owens Eastman Chemical Company Phone - (423)-229-3579 Cell Phone - (423)-817-0704 Fax - (423)-229-1188 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] query...regarding sound configuration...
Dear all, I have installed very recently Mandrake7.2. I have Intel I-815EP chipset..with onboard sound card. Intel 815 ICH2 (Rev1). Why my system doesnot have amixer or how should I activate it... I have full installation of amixer. thanks in advance. sincerely, prasad. Happy Day, Prasad, B.V.L.S., Research Scholar. * AIM OF SCIENTIFIC ADVENTURE : NATURE CRYSTALLOGRAPHY * _ __ ___ ___ ___ |Thought| | Fourier| | | |Different| | Fourier | |Structure| | waves |--|Analysis|--|NATURE|--|Forms of |--|Synthesis|--| of| | | || | | |Knowledge| | | | NATURE | |___| || |__| |_| |_| |_| * [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROTEIN CRYSTALLOGRAPHY ...Shiva *
Re: [newbie]
Hi Marianne, On deleting the partitions of linux with the help of partition magic, 1. you should be in windows, or using the partition magic floppy boot disk to get to partition magic. Just highlight the linux ext2 partitions, and delete them. there are these big Icons on the bottom of the screen to start that process, or you can right click on them and an option box will open up asking what you want to do with the partitions in question. after you have deleted the linux partitions, including the "swap" partition. be sure and click that little green icon in the lower right hand corner that says "apply changes". the computer will grind away for another 15 minutes or so, depending on the speed of your processor, and tada! no more linux partitions! they should reallocate to a gray color, being unallocated space. you can then resize your windows partition to take up the space, or reinstall another something in the space. if the LILO/Grub boot pops up on the screen, and you can't get to windowsturn the computer off. start your computer with the windows emergency boot disk, have it start without cdrom support (on a command line). make sure you are at a c:\ prompt not c:\windows how do you do that? if the command line says c:\windows...type right after c:\windows cd c:\ and then hit return. the complete line you type before return should look like c:\windows cd c:\ when you hit enter you should get a c:\ prompt. then type fdisk /mbr the line should look like c:\fdisk /mbr what this does is ...it sets your computer back to the factory setting of the master boot record, and wipes out the LILO/Grub mbr boot put there by linux. Your computer will start every time with windows from there on in. the link for my posting is in the archives of the newbie section of linux-mandrake (where you signed up for the service) I assumed because you signed up for the service, you knew how to get there. It has all of the archives of the most recent email conversations. I really don't know why they are not doing this in a regular newsgroup situation. it is really a pain getting all of these emails for every posting. Seeya, Ricky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, You forgot to include the link! chek out my listing on this newbie page on getting rid of extra boots listed! cheers! marianne
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
Question: Why is this forum not on a regular newsgroup. After being on this email forum for 12 hours, I understand where Anthony is coming from... bottom line: Lets get this thing on a "newsgroup" promote the new newsgroup address and save the hassle. Mark Weaver wrote: prolly wasn't aware of the sheer volume of messages on a daiy basis. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Anthony Daniell wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:45:48 +1000 From: Anthony Daniell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. why join a list if you can not handle the email Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "philomena" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. this has got to be a joke, right ? just inciting the continuation of these responses ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please take me off this newbie list can't stand all this mail
Re: [newbie] Crazy??
Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, Pine 4.31 reads it just fine, but why in the world are you posting this stuff to the list? Have you been earing too many expresso beans or something? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:44:45 -0500 From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Crazy?? Can any one read this attachment? Too many beans. However, I have stopped. Sorry all. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 The Tux email thread creator
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
Question: Why is this forum not on a regular newsgroup. After being on this email forum for 12 hours, I understand where Anthony is coming from... Now that is a very good point! Why on earth is such an active mailing list not in the form of a mailing list??? Hopefully Google/Deja would then also keep archives!!! It's too much for me, that's for sure. Now there is a Mandrake newsgroup, but it ain't this active. Rgds M
[newbie] arabisation under linux
Hello, 1. can anyone help me to map a linux keyboard into an Arabic font and also in enabling writing from write to left -which is the arabic direction- as opposed to from left to right -in latin. 2.Does linux have Unicode? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Crazy??
Roman, I ate too many of those beans the other evening. Sorta forgot what I was shoving down my neck while I was fighting with my machine...anyway, the next thing I knew I had eaten seven of the little buggers and wasn't able to get to sleep until well after midnight. What a trip that was! -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:29:39 -0500 From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Crazy?? Mark Weaver wrote: Roman, Pine 4.31 reads it just fine, but why in the world are you posting this stuff to the list? Have you been earing too many expresso beans or something? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:44:45 -0500 From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Crazy?? Can any one read this attachment? Too many beans. However, I have stopped. Sorry all.
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
I kinda like it this way to tell you the truth. I've got a ton of messages archived and it makes it a lot easier to search through them when I need to find information on something. Move /var from /dev/hda to /dev/hdc is a prime example. Instead of a tiring and sometimes fruitless search through page after page of the list archives online I was able to search my own stash of messages and found a solution within a few minutes. Thanks to something Civileme had posted to another user I was able to modify his recomendation to suit my needs and now /var is living happily on another physical drive and Linux sees and treats it as a normal part of the root filesystem. I love the awesome stuff you can do with Linux. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ricky Schultz wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:03:48 -0500 From: Ricky Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. Question: Why is this forum not on a regular newsgroup. After being on this email forum for 12 hours, I understand where Anthony is coming from... bottom line: Lets get this thing on a "newsgroup" promote the new newsgroup address and save the hassle. Mark Weaver wrote: prolly wasn't aware of the sheer volume of messages on a daiy basis. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Anthony Daniell wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:45:48 +1000 From: Anthony Daniell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. why join a list if you can not handle the email Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "philomena" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. this has got to be a joke, right ? just inciting the continuation of these responses ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please take me off this newbie list can't stand all this mail
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
yeah, yeah...ok...I'll let this poor guy off the hook. send a self addressed stamped envelope to each and every member on this list. Inlcude inside that envelope a $10 bill and at the end of the month we'll all get together and take a vote on whether or not to let you "off" the list. OR you could send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with un-su-b-scri-be listname [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the message body without the (-) hyphens of course and you'll be removed from the list. There...hows that? And by the way. I got those directions from the message "I" was sent when "I" subscribed to the list. :) -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Roger Sherman wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:46:42 -0500 (EST) From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. Are you joking? For real, is this really that hard? Sheesh... peace, Rog Registered Linux user #19071 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, adam wrote: Please take me off I can't even check my email without having 200 a day from people who don't know how to pick up a book...please thank's. - Original Message - From: Dale Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] boot.ini Well, not as easy as one would think. I have NT and Linux at work on same the machine, along with 98 and 2000.Maybe someone else knows away.I could post the procedure givin to me if you like. The one thing is you should be running lilo.Let me know if you would like the info and I will post from work today...
Re: [newbie] Printing from Star Office
If you printer has been set up to print from other apps via LPR or CUPS, then all you need to do is print as postscript (don't choose a driver for your specific printer). The print daemon will use its own driver to translate this to a language that your printer understands. On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:24, - Ron - wrote: My printer works just fine from all applications except Star Office Apps. Then it just prints gibberish. Is it outputting in Postscript? I have selected configured my printer in SO, but it just doesn't work right. How do you...? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
http://www.uxd.com/ abe Mark Weaver wrote: abe wrote: regrettably that tech is misinformed. In my time as a pc repair tech I saw many sticks of ram that passed the boot test put were infact bad. Quick tech pro is one of the best memory testers you'll find. It actually test's most of the hardware in your system. Quick tech can identify a single bad sector in ram. Good luck Abe "Myers, Dennis R NWO" wrote: I've been told by local computer techs that if your bios sees the ram at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on the first screen that shows your primary and secondary IDE devices and you can hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their advice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:31 PM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject:[newbie] Testing for bad RAM I am suspicious that my RAM is bad. Is there anyway in linux that I can confirm this? Abe, Where does one find and buy a copy of this amazing program? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
[newbie] Can't load file with zoneinfos (install fails on 7.2)
Hi, I have downloaded Mandrake 7.2 (2 CD's). Install goes great untill the installing timezone part. It states it can't find the file with the zoneinfos. When the install is aborted, I can read on the console: can't cd to /usr/share/zoneinfo. This dir isn't on my disk anywhere. I checked the downloadsite, there shouldn't be one either. At least I don't think so. This problem has occured on two totally different machines, so I think it has to be the cd's. As a result I don't have a working Linux install. Does anyone have a suggestion? Best regards, Peter Schram
Re: [newbie] system sounds
installed ALSA...still can't hear system sounds Mark Weaver wrote: Hi Kit, Installing Alsa sounds like a good idea to me. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, KompuKit wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:59:44 -0500 From: KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED], Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] system sounds I can't get any system sounds... I hear Licq sounds, MP3s, midi's, wavs...if clicked on separately... but not any systems sounds...why? do i need to install ALSA -- Registered Linux User: 167369 = http://www.kompukit.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] Abiword
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone interested version 0.7.13 is now available for download (4.6mb), don't know what the improvements are yet I've just downloaded but not tried it yet. Which web page? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 The Original Tux Email Thread Creator
Re: [newbie] Add themes to theme manager on KDE2.1 beta 2
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, you wrote: s wrote: That one's a little different. the instructions are at the site where you downloaded it, but it amounts to cp the theme.rc to the kstyles/themes folder and copying aquatic's pixmaps folder to kstyles/pixmaps/. Then you can choose it from your Styles section rather than the theme manager. You can get real creative and copy one of the button.png to the panel directory so you can have your kpanel quick launcher 'skinned'. Please check the site for offical instructions. -s On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, you wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2001 14:10, Romanator wrote: That's all there is to it. There has to be more to it. I'm running KDE 2.1 Beta 2. I just downloaded Aquatica-KDE2.0.tar.gz from kde.themes.org and put it in a temp directory. Then I clicked on Add in the Themes Manager and navigated to the temp dir. First off, it's got a filter of *.ktheme so it can't see what I downloaded. If I append .ktheme to the filename -- or if I change the filter to *.gz -- I get a message saying "Theme does not contain a .themerc file". M. I checked it out. I was able to edit my panel and wallpaper manually. However, the automatic install feature seems to be temporarily disabled. The only theme that works okat is anti-stress.tar.gz It's not automatic, you must do it manually. -s
[newbie] Linux partitioning
I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg
Re: [newbie] Can't load file with zoneinfos (install fails on 7.2)
did you make your disks from the iso images? If so, than I would suggest your cds may be at fault for sure. iso image is te best deal! You could buy the storebought copy with manuals for less than 30 bucks. Peter Schram wrote: Hi, I have downloaded Mandrake 7.2 (2 CD's). Install goes great untill the installing timezone part. It states it can't find the file with the zoneinfos. When the install is aborted, I can read on the console: can't cd to /usr/share/zoneinfo. This dir isn't on my disk anywhere. I checked the downloadsite, there shouldn't be one either. At least I don't think so. This problem has occured on two totally different machines, so I think it has to be the cd's. As a result I don't have a working Linux install. Does anyone have a suggestion? Best regards, Peter Schram
Re: [newbie] **offtopic** JavaScript
Regarding my last post with the meta tag solution, I've just re-read your post and it clicked that you are linking a js file, not embedding the script within the page - in which case the meta tags won't stop the js files from being cached. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a solution for this that doesn't involve user intervention (don't quote me on that and by all means, keep looking :) - Mark Johnson mentioned holding the shift key while clicking reload (control - r in most browsers works also), probably the best solution would be to include a note on the page asking visitors to press ctrl-r to ensure they receive the most up to date version of the page hth Dave --- David Grubb - Internet / Intranet Content Officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 2 9895-7408 Department of Land and Water Conservation Sydney, Australia --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/24 4:16 am I made a web page that calls a JavaScript file. My problem is when I change the JavaScript file, the browser not download the new archive. I think if I delete my history, the problem desapear for me. But what happen with the other users? Anybody knows how can I solution this problem for final users? -- dison Andrs Rivera Norea Ingeniero de Sistemas Departamento de Informtica Universidad de San Buenaventura Medelln - Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos - WARNING: This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential/privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this messages are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the NSW Department of Land and Water Conservation. You should scan any attached files for viruses. -
Re: [newbie] Linux partitioning
the swap file should never be more than 128meg in size...actually smaller if you have more than 128 mb of ram! you can do a complete install with as little as one / partition and one swap file! on my current setup I have / ,/home, and swap as my partitions mandrake does the rest Gregg Black wrote: I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg
[newbie] Some problems
Dear folks, I have the next problems: A) Sometimes kwintv hung and it is impossible to kill it (kill -9 ps or killall kwintv doesn't work). If I shutdown the computer every thing seems to be OK, but starting the computer again, the partition hdb8 (/home) is not well umounted and needs to be fixed. One time I did: umount /home before to shutdown and the message doesn appear when the computer started again, but this is not a good solution, If kwintv hang and I like to watch tv I need to shutdown the computer. Does anybody know a way to kill efectively kwintv when this occurs? B) I have an Avermedia TVCapture98 tv-card, but when mandrake start it detects an Avermedia TVPhone98. Both are so similar, but the bttv code differs and to have the tv working I need to introduce in modules.conf the bttv module with parameters (card=16). Is there anyway to force linux recognized the right card? or it is the modules.conf modification is the only solution? Thanks a lot for your kind help, Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain)
Re: [newbie] Add themes to theme manager on KDE2.1 beta 2
s wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, you wrote: s wrote: That one's a little different. the instructions are at the site where you downloaded it, but it amounts to cp the theme.rc to the kstyles/themes folder and copying aquatic's pixmaps folder to kstyles/pixmaps/. Then you can choose it from your Styles section rather than the theme manager. You can get real creative and copy one of the button.png to the panel directory so you can have your kpanel quick launcher 'skinned'. Please check the site for offical instructions. -s On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, you wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2001 14:10, Romanator wrote: That's all there is to it. There has to be more to it. I'm running KDE 2.1 Beta 2. I just downloaded Aquatica-KDE2.0.tar.gz from kde.themes.org and put it in a temp directory. Then I clicked on Add in the Themes Manager and navigated to the temp dir. First off, it's got a filter of *.ktheme so it can't see what I downloaded. If I append .ktheme to the filename -- or if I change the filter to *.gz -- I get a message saying "Theme does not contain a .themerc file". M. I checked it out. I was able to edit my panel and wallpaper manually. However, the automatic install feature seems to be temporarily disabled. The only theme that works okat is anti-stress.tar.gz It's not automatic, you must do it manually. -s I know. Mdk7.0 to 7.1 allowed an automatic installation. I'm sure that they will not remove this feature in Version 8. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's still an alpha. Roman
[newbie] Help on g77 installation
Hi, I have Mandrake 7.2 and I'm trying to install g77. Accordind to the installing instruction I shound run configure, but when I type ./configure I receive a "not found" error. Can somebody help me about it? Does anyone have some clear installation instructions? Thank you, Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Timezone problem
My timezone (Paraguay) has changed this morning from Summer Time to Winter Time. Only problem is that it is not supposed to change for at lease another month. Where could I report the discrepancy ? I hink the problem is in the file /usr/share/zoneinfo/america/Asuncion, but its written in illegible, and I dont know how to modify it ;-( TIA, Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River. -- Measure with a micrometer. Mark with chalk. Cut with an axe. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
RE: [newbie] Some problems
I was advised once not to use kill -9 if I could get away with using one of the other signal numbers as it is so 'brutal'. (It was described as 'like creeping up behind the process and hitting it with an axe'.) I'm impressed that this option doesn't work and don't know what to suggest sorry. regards Daryl A) Sometimes kwintv hung and it is impossible to kill it (kill -9 ps or killall kwintv doesn't work). If I shutdown the computer every thing seems to be OK, but starting the computer again, the partition hdb8 (/home) is not well umounted and needs to be fixed. One time I did: umount /home before to shutdown and the message doesn appear when the computer started again, but this is not a good solution, If kwintv hang and I like to watch tv I need to shutdown the computer. Does anybody know a way to kill efectively kwintv when this occurs? [...]
Re: [newbie] **offtopic** JavaScript
Put the following tags in the head /head section of your webpage - may not work for every browser, but should for most. Effectively, it tells the browser to get the page from the server every time, and not cache the page to the local computer... META HTTP-EQUIV="Cache-Control" CONTENT="no cache" META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no cache" META HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="0" Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: dison Andrs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 11:17 AM To: Linux Novatos Subject: [newbie] **offtopic** JavaScript I made a web page that calls a JavaScript file. My problem is when I change the JavaScript file, the browser not download the new archive. I think if I delete my history, the problem desapear for me. But what happen with the other users? Anybody knows how can I solution this problem for final users? -- dison Andrs Rivera Norea Ingeniero de Sistemas Departamento de Informtica Universidad de San Buenaventura Medelln - Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos --- David Grubb - Internet / Intranet Content Officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 2 9895-7408 Department of Land and Water Conservation Sydney, Australia --- - WARNING: This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential/privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this messages are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the NSW Department of Land and Water Conservation. You should scan any attached files for viruses. -
RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Hmmm, well, having answered this one already a few days ago it looks to me as though there may be some mileage in both a FAQ and an archive in a more formally structured ng. Anyway here goes. If you have 128Mb memory it seems like a good idea to make swap partition = double RAM. You certainly need a / partition, which can be pretty large and a /home partition for users and their assorted personal/mail files does no harm either. Say... anything from 10Mb upwards for /home? A /root partition is quite a good idea if you are going to be using more than one kernel. This one can be limited to say 10Mb. So : /swap = 2 times Ram (unless you have large amounts of Ram /home = 10Mb or more depending on number of users and what personal files/configurations they have /root = /10Mb say? / = the rest. From all the good things being said about reiser in this ng it is worth considering this format instead of ext2. Um oh yes, there is lots of information on this topic in already existing FAQs and Howtos. regards Daryl -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gregg BlackSent: 25 February 2001 22:09To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Linux partitioningI'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap.At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated!I'm using mandrake 7.2-Gregg
Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy.....!!!!
I tried that they can't find it (my email)Jack#$@#$!!! - Original Message - From: Paul Rodrguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. Thanks so much. I laughed so %^%#$*^%$ hard! -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dear god!!! please take me off this is crazy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's simply hillarious! Where do you find that kind of stuff? From another Email list I am on. One of the list members posted it. You might want to save an .html copy of it. I don't know if M$ has been hacked, or if it's for real. G On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 00:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this link will help you to unsub: http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354. asp (You're Welcome.) --- On Thursday 22 February 2001 10:43 pm, you wrote: Please take me off I can't even check my email without having 200 a day from people who don't know how to pick up a book...please thank's. How does that old saying go? "Sorry about your luck."? ;) -- And oh yeah, speaking of people who can't read, books or otherwise. Unsub where you signed up to begin with. just like it reads on the web site. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie]
thank you Ricky this was what I needed to know marianne
[newbie] Impossible question?
It seems likely that somebody out there knows the answer to my question. Perhaps he or she thinks that "All he has to do is insert his Mandrake CD, and in KDE click on the RpmDrake icon, and then use the special SearchMandrakeCD function, and then pick out the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number and start the "InstallWhatchamacallitGizmo" and that's it," or that "All he has to do is to go to ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/sub/lib/dev/rpm/pack/thisorthat/dir and then click on down through the subdirectories, until he comes to the right one, in which the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number are, and then download them to his hard drive." It seems unlikey that he or she will tell me about it however. I don't know why. Perhaps the answer is considered so simple that I have to be an idiot not to know the answer? Perhaps on the other hand the problem is too difficult? I don't believe that though. I think most of you experienced Linux users could probably solve this in no time, so here it goes, one more time: I have downloaded a tarball with the latest version of AfterStep. In order to compile it I need first to install two packages which were not installed in Mandrake, even though I chose "everything" when I installed Mandrake. Finding and installing these two packages is probably ridiculously easy once you know how it's done, but unfortunately I don't know how it's done. Perhaps they are on the Mandrake CD. Perhaps there is some kind of tool in KDE to find out. I don't know. Perhaps they are at the Mandrake FTP site. Perhaps there is even some page on the site which contains full instructions concerning what I need and where to find it. I don't know. I have tried these things though. I have tried searching the Mandrake CD. I have tried using the "RpmDrake" tool. I have tried searching at the Mandrake site as well, and I have tried searching at www.rpmfind.net. Nothing has produced any results, and it seems that I have to conclude that it is not possible to install AfterStep on Linux Mandrake -- not possible for me that is. Probably somebody else could. The first package I am looking for is: XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm According to www.rpmfind.net this package doesn't exist. If it does exist however, I don't know where, and I don't know how to find it. The other package I don't even know the name for. It was described to me like this: "and I don't know how the other one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries" Apparently he considered this sufficient information that somebody who knows more than I do would be able to identify this package. I can't even begin to guess what this package might be called, even less where to find it. That is also why a reply like "Go to www.developerrpms.net and you'll find what you are looking for" is no help. If there is such a place it will probably have hundreds of rpms and I am too ignorant to be able to figure out what the ones I am looking for are named. I am just a newbie. I am very grateful for all and any help. Thank you. DRX
Re: [newbie] system sounds
Hmmm...is your sound card recognized? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, KompuKit wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:56:38 + From: KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] system sounds installed ALSA...still can't hear system sounds Mark Weaver wrote: Hi Kit, Installing Alsa sounds like a good idea to me. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, KompuKit wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:59:44 -0500 From: KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED], Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] system sounds I can't get any system sounds... I hear Licq sounds, MP3s, midi's, wavs...if clicked on separately... but not any systems sounds...why? do i need to install ALSA
[newbie] sicstus prolog
Does anyone know where I can get a free copy of sicstus prolog...that is, an unlicensed version that doesn't expire after 30 days? YP
[newbie] Lotus Organizer for Linux?
I used Lotus Organizer for my diary on windows, what options for a diary on linux is there?
[newbie] printers again
looking for many opinions on printers ones that work perfectly with 7.2 all responses are greatly appreciated
RE: [newbie] boot problems (was unmounting drives)
Thanks for the help. BUt no. Still had the smae problem. NO biggy. I'm going to reinstall, try ReisserFS why I'm at it. :) I'll let you know how it goes. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] boot problems (was unmounting drives) Paul Rodrguez wrote: Yes, I've run fsck, ound no problems. I might have to reformat and reinstall. Any last minute ideas? -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] boot problems (was unmounting drives) Paul Rodrguez wrote: Hi, I still can't get this resolved. When I try to boot I get an error that /dev/hda9 and /dev/hda8 are already mounted, can't continue, and drop's me to root for maintenance with password. Once there, I can't unmount /hda8 because it is in use. If I switch runlevels to single user mode, I can unmount both drives, but whatever I do, the same thing happens when I reboot. Please help! -Paul R Paulhave you run fsck on them after you've gotten them unmounted in single user mode? -- Alan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Paulyes, try the following before you reformat. In single user mode, after getting them both unmounted do as below (example is from my system): [root@obi-wan /root]# fdisk /dev/hda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 787 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 104209632+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 105 787 13769285 Extended /dev/hda5 105 231256000+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 232 235 8032+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 236 239 8032+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 240 243 8032+ 83 Linux /dev/hda9 244 247 8032+ 83 Linux /dev/hda10 248 251 8032+ 83 Linux /dev/hda11 252 255 8063+ 83 Linux /dev/hda12 288 787 1008000 83 Linux Command (m for help): Then copy all of the info from the lines of /dev/hda8 and /dev/hda9. Then do a 'd' (delete) command on partitions 8 and 9. Finally recreate them with the 'n' command using the data you copied down. The two new partitions should be intact containing all of the original data and hopfully not containing the problem. I don't remember for sure if they'll still be 8 and 9, if they're not there's a command in the x (expert) menu called 'f' (fix partition order). Good luck. -- Alan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] printers again
You might get better responses if you said what your requirements are first. Office? Colour? High volume? Cost? For starters, any Postscript printer can be made to work perfectly with any Linux flavour. More and more non-Postscript printers are being well supported as well. In Linux-Mandrake that support is primarily through the use of CUPS. Check this site for details: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hcups0.html Actually, it's not responding today for some reason, but keep checking the URL. Lots of good info here. M. On Sunday 25 February 2001 17:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looking for many opinions on printers ones that work perfectly with 7.2 all responses are greatly appreciated -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
RE: [newbie] Impossible question?
Ok, the rpm for XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm is at the following link. I did a search for xfree86 on rpmfind.net and looked at the packages labelled mandrake in the "distribution" column. http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake//7.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//XFree86-4 .0.1-28mdk.i586.html I can help you on the other points. Sounds like good Linux desperation though. We've all been there. :) Good luck. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DRX Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Impossible question? It seems likely that somebody out there knows the answer to my question. Perhaps he or she thinks that "All he has to do is insert his Mandrake CD, and in KDE click on the RpmDrake icon, and then use the special SearchMandrakeCD function, and then pick out the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number and start the "InstallWhatchamacallitGizmo" and that's it," or that "All he has to do is to go to ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/sub/lib/dev/rpm/pack/thisorthat/dir and then click on down through the subdirectories, until he comes to the right one, in which the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number are, and then download them to his hard drive." It seems unlikey that he or she will tell me about it however. I don't know why. Perhaps the answer is considered so simple that I have to be an idiot not to know the answer? Perhaps on the other hand the problem is too difficult? I don't believe that though. I think most of you experienced Linux users could probably solve this in no time, so here it goes, one more time: I have downloaded a tarball with the latest version of AfterStep. In order to compile it I need first to install two packages which were not installed in Mandrake, even though I chose "everything" when I installed Mandrake. Finding and installing these two packages is probably ridiculously easy once you know how it's done, but unfortunately I don't know how it's done. Perhaps they are on the Mandrake CD. Perhaps there is some kind of tool in KDE to find out. I don't know. Perhaps they are at the Mandrake FTP site. Perhaps there is even some page on the site which contains full instructions concerning what I need and where to find it. I don't know. I have tried these things though. I have tried searching the Mandrake CD. I have tried using the "RpmDrake" tool. I have tried searching at the Mandrake site as well, and I have tried searching at www.rpmfind.net. Nothing has produced any results, and it seems that I have to conclude that it is not possible to install AfterStep on Linux Mandrake -- not possible for me that is. Probably somebody else could. The first package I am looking for is: XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm According to www.rpmfind.net this package doesn't exist. If it does exist however, I don't know where, and I don't know how to find it. The other package I don't even know the name for. It was described to me like this: "and I don't know how the other one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries" Apparently he considered this sufficient information that somebody who knows more than I do would be able to identify this package. I can't even begin to guess what this package might be called, even less where to find it. That is also why a reply like "Go to www.developerrpms.net and you'll find what you are looking for" is no help. If there is such a place it will probably have hundreds of rpms and I am too ignorant to be able to figure out what the ones I am looking for are named. I am just a newbie. I am very grateful for all and any help. Thank you. DRX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] Impossible question?
Sorry, that should read "can't help you". Sorry about that. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Rodrguez Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Impossible question? Ok, the rpm for XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm is at the following link. I did a search for xfree86 on rpmfind.net and looked at the packages labelled mandrake in the "distribution" column. http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake//7.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//XFree86-4 .0.1-28mdk.i586.html I can help you on the other points. Sounds like good Linux desperation though. We've all been there. :) Good luck. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DRX Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Impossible question? It seems likely that somebody out there knows the answer to my question. Perhaps he or she thinks that "All he has to do is insert his Mandrake CD, and in KDE click on the RpmDrake icon, and then use the special SearchMandrakeCD function, and then pick out the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number and start the "InstallWhatchamacallitGizmo" and that's it," or that "All he has to do is to go to ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/sub/lib/dev/rpm/pack/thisorthat/dir and then click on down through the subdirectories, until he comes to the right one, in which the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number are, and then download them to his hard drive." It seems unlikey that he or she will tell me about it however. I don't know why. Perhaps the answer is considered so simple that I have to be an idiot not to know the answer? Perhaps on the other hand the problem is too difficult? I don't believe that though. I think most of you experienced Linux users could probably solve this in no time, so here it goes, one more time: I have downloaded a tarball with the latest version of AfterStep. In order to compile it I need first to install two packages which were not installed in Mandrake, even though I chose "everything" when I installed Mandrake. Finding and installing these two packages is probably ridiculously easy once you know how it's done, but unfortunately I don't know how it's done. Perhaps they are on the Mandrake CD. Perhaps there is some kind of tool in KDE to find out. I don't know. Perhaps they are at the Mandrake FTP site. Perhaps there is even some page on the site which contains full instructions concerning what I need and where to find it. I don't know. I have tried these things though. I have tried searching the Mandrake CD. I have tried using the "RpmDrake" tool. I have tried searching at the Mandrake site as well, and I have tried searching at www.rpmfind.net. Nothing has produced any results, and it seems that I have to conclude that it is not possible to install AfterStep on Linux Mandrake -- not possible for me that is. Probably somebody else could. The first package I am looking for is: XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm According to www.rpmfind.net this package doesn't exist. If it does exist however, I don't know where, and I don't know how to find it. The other package I don't even know the name for. It was described to me like this: "and I don't know how the other one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries" Apparently he considered this sufficient information that somebody who knows more than I do would be able to identify this package. I can't even begin to guess what this package might be called, even less where to find it. That is also why a reply like "Go to www.developerrpms.net and you'll find what you are looking for" is no help. If there is such a place it will probably have hundreds of rpms and I am too ignorant to be able to figure out what the ones I am looking for are named. I am just a newbie. I am very grateful for all and any help. Thank you. DRX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] Impossible question?
One other thing, did you do a developer install? It sounds like you might be missing the libraries to be able to compile a program that are included when you state that you'll be using your system for development (as opposed to workstation or server). I seem to remember it being said on the list that you can put in the mandrake cds again and choose to upgrade (even though it's the same version) to a developer install. I've never tried it though, so I'm not sure if it works. Also, you can check for a folder in rpmdrake listed something like graphical desktops then a subfolder within that called afterstep (my system's currently down so I can't check this). You might want to try installing those packages first and seeing if that works. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DRX Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Impossible question? It seems likely that somebody out there knows the answer to my question. Perhaps he or she thinks that "All he has to do is insert his Mandrake CD, and in KDE click on the RpmDrake icon, and then use the special SearchMandrakeCD function, and then pick out the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number and start the "InstallWhatchamacallitGizmo" and that's it," or that "All he has to do is to go to ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/sub/lib/dev/rpm/pack/thisorthat/dir and then click on down through the subdirectories, until he comes to the right one, in which the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number are, and then download them to his hard drive." It seems unlikey that he or she will tell me about it however. I don't know why. Perhaps the answer is considered so simple that I have to be an idiot not to know the answer? Perhaps on the other hand the problem is too difficult? I don't believe that though. I think most of you experienced Linux users could probably solve this in no time, so here it goes, one more time: I have downloaded a tarball with the latest version of AfterStep. In order to compile it I need first to install two packages which were not installed in Mandrake, even though I chose "everything" when I installed Mandrake. Finding and installing these two packages is probably ridiculously easy once you know how it's done, but unfortunately I don't know how it's done. Perhaps they are on the Mandrake CD. Perhaps there is some kind of tool in KDE to find out. I don't know. Perhaps they are at the Mandrake FTP site. Perhaps there is even some page on the site which contains full instructions concerning what I need and where to find it. I don't know. I have tried these things though. I have tried searching the Mandrake CD. I have tried using the "RpmDrake" tool. I have tried searching at the Mandrake site as well, and I have tried searching at www.rpmfind.net. Nothing has produced any results, and it seems that I have to conclude that it is not possible to install AfterStep on Linux Mandrake -- not possible for me that is. Probably somebody else could. The first package I am looking for is: XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm According to www.rpmfind.net this package doesn't exist. If it does exist however, I don't know where, and I don't know how to find it. The other package I don't even know the name for. It was described to me like this: "and I don't know how the other one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries" Apparently he considered this sufficient information that somebody who knows more than I do would be able to identify this package. I can't even begin to guess what this package might be called, even less where to find it. That is also why a reply like "Go to www.developerrpms.net and you'll find what you are looking for" is no help. If there is such a place it will probably have hundreds of rpms and I am too ignorant to be able to figure out what the ones I am looking for are named. I am just a newbie. I am very grateful for all and any help. Thank you. DRX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Impossible question?
I hope u guys don't mind my butting in here, but I just can't not ask about this anymore. How in the world does one do a "developers install"? I keep reading people talking about it. I think it must be there somewhere. I know I must have reinstalled this distro a dozen times by now and I have yet to hit upon it. I've typed in expert after pressing F1 and it goes back to the regular gui install. I've typed all, the same basic result. The only expert part is the partitioning. I have to install much of the developement stuff after wards. What is the trick? (7.2) TIA, -s On Sunday 25 February 2001 09:33 pm, you wrote: One other thing, did you do a developer install? snipped -Paul R
Re: [newbie] Add themes to theme manager on KDE2.1 beta 2
On Sunday 25 February 2001 05:14 pm, you wrote: s wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, you wrote: s wrote: That one's a little different. the instructions are at the site where you downloaded it, but it amounts to cp the theme.rc to the kstyles/themes folder and copying aquatic's pixmaps folder to kstyles/pixmaps/. Then you can choose it from your Styles section rather than the theme manager. You can get real creative and copy one of the button.png to the panel directory so you can have your kpanel quick launcher 'skinned'. Please check the site for offical instructions. -s On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, you wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2001 14:10, Romanator wrote: That's all there is to it. There has to be more to it. I'm running KDE 2.1 Beta 2. I just downloaded Aquatica-KDE2.0.tar.gz from kde.themes.org and put it in a temp directory. Then I clicked on Add in the Themes Manager and navigated to the temp dir. First off, it's got a filter of *.ktheme so it can't see what I downloaded. If I append .ktheme to the filename -- or if I change the filter to *.gz -- I get a message saying "Theme does not contain a .themerc file". M. I checked it out. I was able to edit my panel and wallpaper manually. However, the automatic install feature seems to be temporarily disabled. The only theme that works okat is anti-stress.tar.gz It's not automatic, you must do it manually. -s I know. Mdk7.0 to 7.1 allowed an automatic installation. I'm sure that they will not remove this feature in Version 8. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's still an alpha. Roman I tried that Matrix theme. I was pretty cool, but it seemed to use a lot of resources. My machine would just stop working and when I looked at the memory usage tab, this was the first time I ever needed swap. At times both the physical and swap were at 100% used. Then when I tried to unload it, it wouldn't go away. Most of it did, but the window borders stayed through several reboots. I had to reinstall my os anyway, but I don't think I'll try that one again. Aquatic looks pretty cool. I'm going back to get Assimilated, it's almost just like a WindowBlind I had back in my windows days. -s
RE: [newbie] Impossible question?
The developer install option should come shortly after you choose "beginner, custom, or expert". It asks you what the general purpose of your system will be, and gives you three options "workstation, server, development". At least that's what I remember from a 7.1 expert install. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of s Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 12:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Impossible question? I hope u guys don't mind my butting in here, but I just can't not ask about this anymore. How in the world does one do a "developers install"? I keep reading people talking about it. I think it must be there somewhere. I know I must have reinstalled this distro a dozen times by now and I have yet to hit upon it. I've typed in expert after pressing F1 and it goes back to the regular gui install. I've typed all, the same basic result. The only expert part is the partitioning. I have to install much of the developement stuff after wards. What is the trick? (7.2) TIA, -s On Sunday 25 February 2001 09:33 pm, you wrote: One other thing, did you do a developer install? snipped -Paul R _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[newbie] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list
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Re: [newbie] Impossible question?
On Monday 26 February 2001 00:39, you wrote: It seems likely that somebody out there knows the answer to my question. Perhaps he or she thinks that "All he has to do is insert his Mandrake CD, and in KDE click on the RpmDrake icon, and then use the special SearchMandrakeCD function, and then pick out the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number and start the "InstallWhatchamacallitGizmo" and that's it," or that "All he has to do is to go to ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/sub/lib/dev/rpm/pack/thisorthat/dir and then click on down through the subdirectories, until he comes to the right one, in which the package Xfree.this.or.that.some.number and another package called Devel.Graph.Lib.Some.Other.Number are, and then download them to his hard drive." It seems unlikey that he or she will tell me about it however. I don't know why. Perhaps the answer is considered so simple that I have to be an idiot not to know the answer? Perhaps on the other hand the problem is too difficult? I don't believe that though. I think most of you experienced Linux users could probably solve this in no time, so here it goes, one more time: I have downloaded a tarball with the latest version of AfterStep. In order to compile it I need first to install two packages which were not installed in Mandrake, even though I chose "everything" when I installed Mandrake. Finding and installing these two packages is probably ridiculously easy once you know how it's done, but unfortunately I don't know how it's done. Perhaps they are on the Mandrake CD. Perhaps there is some kind of tool in KDE to find out. I don't know. Perhaps they are at the Mandrake FTP site. Perhaps there is even some page on the site which contains full instructions concerning what I need and where to find it. I don't know. I have tried these things though. I have tried searching the Mandrake CD. I have tried using the "RpmDrake" tool. I have tried searching at the Mandrake site as well, and I have tried searching at www.rpmfind.net. Nothing has produced any results, and it seems that I have to conclude that it is not possible to install AfterStep on Linux Mandrake -- not possible for me that is. Probably somebody else could. The first package I am looking for is: XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm According to www.rpmfind.net this package doesn't exist. If it does exist however, I don't know where, and I don't know how to find it. The other package I don't even know the name for. It was described to me like this: "and I don't know how the other one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries" Apparently he considered this sufficient information that somebody who knows more than I do would be able to identify this package. I can't even begin to guess what this package might be called, even less where to find it. That is also why a reply like "Go to www.developerrpms.net and you'll find what you are looking for" is no help. If there is such a place it will probably have hundreds of rpms and I am too ignorant to be able to figure out what the ones I am looking for are named. I am just a newbie. I am very grateful for all and any help. Thank you. DRX http://niteowl.userfriendly.net/linux/RPM/AfterStep.html This URL implies that the complete AfterStep window manager will install on the file to be downloaded here. ??? Like you I have looked at all the various sites and find no devel file for xfree86. Something just isn't right about this. So I looked in my rpmdrake and lo and behold afterstep is installed on my system. This then begs the question is your install from the internet download or the two disk commercial set. If it is, I suspect the afterstep files are part of the commercial PowerPack Deluxe 7 disk set. I don't know of any other explanation and can't find the files you need to download. Sorry I'm no help. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] Lotus Organizer for Linux?
On Monday 26 February 2001 01:30, you wrote: I used Lotus Organizer for my diary on windows, what options for a diary on linux is there? Maybe korganizer will work for you. It is like a calender todo list etc type app. Look for kpim to. Good Luck, -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] Impossible question?
On Monday 26 February 2001 03:16, you wrote: I hope u guys don't mind my butting in here, but I just can't not ask about this anymore. How in the world does one do a "developers install"? I keep reading people talking about it. I think it must be there somewhere. I know I must have reinstalled this distro a dozen times by now and I have yet to hit upon it. I've typed in expert after pressing F1 and it goes back to the regular gui install. I've typed all, the same basic result. The only expert part is the partitioning. I have to install much of the developement stuff after wards. What is the trick? (7.2) TIA, -s On Sunday 25 February 2001 09:33 pm, you wrote: One other thing, did you do a developer install? snipped -Paul R Which version of 7.2 do you have? If it is the 2 disk set you can not do the developer install cause the files are on disk 3 and 4 of the PowerPack Deluxe set, or so it appears to me. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
[newbie] Re: Crazy??
On 24-Feb-01, you wrote: Can any one read this attachment? Whats the point... Regards -- A. Talsta It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same. -- Mike Dennison
[newbie] Can't get eth1 up
Hi all I have this problem..2 ethernet nics, both 3com Etherworks II tp using 3c503 modules. Mandrake 7.2 will not see eth1, although eth0 is properly set up and I can ping the internet and if xwindows would set up properly, I could surf the net. Right now nothing seems to work. linuxconf (loaded from the command line) will not allow me to set up eth1. Everytime I try to set up eth1 it puts the io and irq lines in the same space in eth0 and ignores eth1 all together. I have looked at the modules.conf file and manually setup the lines for eth0 and eth1: alias eth0 3c503 alias 3th1 3c503 options 3c503 irq=5,9 io=0x2e0,0x2a0 This used to work for SuSE, before it went south on me. What am I doing wrong that I cant get eth1 to work? If you need more info, I am glad to provide. Doug
Re: [newbie] Can't get eth1 up
If this is a cut-and-paste as opposed to a retype with a typo, then you should probably change 3th1 to eth1. Doug Roberts wrote: alias eth0 3c503 alias 3th1 3c503 options 3c503 irq=5,9 io=0x2e0,0x2a0 This used to work for SuSE, before it went south on me. What am I doing wrong that I cant get eth1 to work? If you need more info, I am glad to provide. Doug -- Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [newbie] Impossible question?
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, DRX wrote: snip -- The first package I am looking for is: XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm According to www.rpmfind.net this package doesn't exist. If it does exist however, I don't know where, and I don't know how to find it. You might be able to use XFree86-devel-4.0.1-26mdk.i586.rpm. That comes on the second CD of the LM7.2 Complete set so it should be available from Mandrakesoft. The other package I don't even know the name for. It was described to me like this: "and I don't know how the other one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries" Apparently he considered this sufficient information that somebody who knows more than I do would be able to identify this package. I can't even begin to guess what this package might be called, even less where to find it. That is also why a reply like "Go to www.developerrpms.net and you'll find what you are looking for" is no help. If there is such a place it will probably have hundreds of rpms and I am too ignorant to be able to figure out what the ones I am looking for are named. I am just a newbie. Agreed; that doesn't help much. And agreed also, the "everything" option in the install does not mean what it says. Mandrake take the view that their distribution will only be of interest to strict newbies and refugees from the M$ world. They should have more self confidence and realise that they have a first class product which appeals to diehard Unixers as well. Have you tried installing AfterStep and locating/downloading each missing RPM that is reported? It is a tedious process but you may get there in the end. I have had to do it. If you can get hold of the second CD that could save a lot of downloading. Len Lawrence @ The Thistle Foundation
Re: [newbie] Impossible question?
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:39:37 +0100 DRX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VERY large snip of totally useless information Have you attempted to compile this afterstep 'upgrade' yet. ? The first step in the process is to run './configure' in the top directory (without the quotes). If the configure works you can move on to the next step which is run 'make' The word '_works_' in this case means to run without error messages. What you are looking for are messages such as: 'Can't find htop/passthegravy.h' 'File not found' and so on. So...in short unpack the tarball:- tar -zxvf filename cd to the resulting directory Run './configure' Write down the _entire_ text of any messages thrown up by the compiler so that we might help. Then we can move to the next step. At that point some of those of on the list just might have sufficient information with which to help you. You may rest assured that if you don't supply relevant information your problem may well end up in pending baskets underneath the PDP-11's some of us keep in our basements.. All that said, I am a Linux newbie myself, I've been around computers since the Intel 4040 was issued with linen daipers. I'm at the other end of the world and my nearest hands-on help is more than 6 hours drive away. I have discovered to my peril that if I don't supply timely, consise and sensible information when I seek help that I might as well go-eat-dirt. Nuf said? Cheers John --- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
[newbie]
For those who may still interested on partitioning Below are the result I got of lm7.2 expert mode partitioning from wut I described in the prior posting of mine. I actually want my /boot to be /dev/hde3 and dun like mah /dev/hde2 to be replaced to /dev/hde5, as DiskDrak? has done for me. Short, the best result u can get from that mode is may be like: /dev/hde1 the untouchable M$ c:\ partition all the rest as logical partition inside the extended partition. Can see below: # /etc/fstab /dev/hde1 /mnt/ntc ntfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hde5 /mnt/ntd ntfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hde6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hde7 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hde8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hde9 /z reiserfs defaults 1 2 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto sync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev,ro 0 0 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 auto user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev,ro 0 0 # the first 2 lines with ntfs were appended manually for # automounting, add something to /etc/filesystems # if it dun automount after reboot --- change thema For those who still considering how the partitions should look like. Next reinstall I will do my partitioning from da prompt with fdisk, cfdisk first b4 beginning my next installation. (use lilo-boot-disk,cdrom.img,rescue.img to get booted in first) My partitions should look something like: /dev/hde1 c:\, nt installer can format largest 4GB /dev/hde2 d:\, that is why the 2nd nt-space required /dev/hde3 /boot /dev/hde4 the wrapper for extended partition /dev/hde5 swap /dev/hde6 / /dev/hde7 /r2, 2nd root partition /dev/hde8 /r3, 3rd root partition (problem: dun use Win$os to create the partitions for linux!) Consideration: If the system to be installed for hiring many users, then /home is meaningful, maybe even mount another /dev/hdf to the /home. For experiment installation I'd prefer to have 2 or even more root-partitions, than to have (/usr,/var), if the HD-space is big enoo LILO/grub can be configured to boot image with diverse root-partition as root ! U may then have different version of linux distribution or divers distribution installed in ur root-partitions. /boot can be shared for all roots partitions, no question /usr,/var are may be meaningful, if u desired to bastle your own linux distribution, (sucks the packages say from sunsite, metalab ... If /usr are not clean then easily format, install, .. Other consideration is may be, if the root partition is too large and u are planning to use ext2 for that, because onces u do something wrong with the shutdown, next time have to wait long untill the e2fschk-ing process ends, the problem could be solved if reiserFS is used, as some1 mentioned b4... Otherwise, I dun think it would be a good Idea, to share the /usr, /var for diverse root partition. I mean, u maybe dun want to delete the old partition before u get satisfied with installing a new one on other partition ? For security reason, I just do periodically tar -cvf - /etc | gzip -c /boot/etc.tgz tar -cvf - /root| gzip -c /boot/root1.tgz The /boot partition is that partition that should always be there, while the other partitions are being delete, repartitioned ... For ppl who use mobos from the dinos time I mean prior to '95/94, could still have bios that dun support LBA, in this case the /boot partition should be inside the fisrt 1024 cylinder in order to be able to get booted .. I think, that should be one of the reason why redhat installer would create that /boot partition as an extra partition automatically if u let it do the autopartitioning. -- Nope envelope, stamply .. Those ones, cvleme are actually nope so nope welcomin I mean to let da option open, sporadish so, I'd be bored, else .. Was never so frndly b4, nope so eno.., Things there, keyboard 1b1 protokol implemented ? I mean, at least, 1 after another, man I'd like to have absence a while so sporadish ;; ding ding dog Biter Org __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
