[newbie-it] modem non risponde

2001-09-09 Per discussione Mario Beretta



Ciao a tutti,da poco ho installato linux mandrake,e premetto che su questo 
sistema sono molto ma molto inesperto
il mio problema è questo,quando cerco di connettermi la finestra mi dice 
"modem pronto"in seguito quando clicco 
su connetti mi dice "il modem non risponde"cosa posso fare?se non sono 
stato chiaro abbiate pazienza e chiedetemi
ulteriori dettagli,grazie un saluto a tutti.


Re: [newbie-it] aiuto: accesso negato a floppy e cdrom

2001-09-09 Per discussione Daniele Micci

Il 19:35, domenica 09 settembre 2001, hai scritto:
 Uso il 2.4.3 fornito di serie con la mdk 8.0, installato con i
 pacchetti rpm dei cd d'installazione...

Forse, allora, hai commesso qualche errore in fase di applicazione delle 
patch e ricompilazione...




Re: [newbie-it] modem non risponde

2001-09-09 Per discussione freefred

On Sunday 09 September 2001 16:24, Mario Beretta wrote:
 Ciao a tutti,da poco ho installato linux mandrake,e premetto che su questo
 sistema sono molto ma molto inesperto il mio problema è questo,quando cerco
 di connettermi la finestra mi dice modem prontoin seguito quando clicco
 su connetti mi dice il modem non rispondecosa posso fare?se non sono
 stato chiaro abbiate pazienza e chiedetemi ulteriori dettagli,grazie un
 saluto a tutti.

e' un modem interno o esterno?
su che porta e'?
hai provato anche come root?
cosa usi per collegarti?
dovrai essere un po' piu' preciso:-)

bye

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Re: [newbie-it] aiuto: accesso negato a floppy e cdrom

2001-09-09 Per discussione Daniele Micci

Il 23:46, domenica 09 settembre 2001, hai scritto:
 Daniele Micci ha scritto:
  Forse, allora, hai commesso qualche errore in fase di applicazione
  delle patch e ricompilazione...

 Urka, ma devo patchare il kernel?! 8-)
 Pensavo che i sorgenti forniti dalla mdk fossero gia` patchati! (e,
 a pensarci bene, se il kernel non fosse patchato non dovrebbe esserci
 la casella da attivare per il supporto... o no?)

Premesso che non sono affatto esperto di ricompilazione del kernel (mai 
fatto, ancora!), ad occhio e croce direi di sì: se hai usato i sorgenti 
forniti dalla Mandrake, dovrebbero già contenere le patch del kernel; ed il 
fatto che esista una casella da attivare sembrerebbe confermarlo. Non sapevo 
che sorgenti avessi usato, così ho azzardato un'ipotesi. A questo punto, non 
so esserti d'aiuto... ;-)

Daniele




[newbie-it] problema con xmms !

2001-09-09 Per discussione GiulioF

 Ciao vi ringarzio i anticipo per la risposta !!
Ho installato xmms scaricando i sorgenti dal sito xmms.org
il programma funziona bene e mi legge gli mp3 ma quandi inserisco
un cd audio nel cdrom non riesco a caricare i file nel lettore e quindi
ad ascoltare musica mentre prima (con una vecchia
installazione)funzionava anche così... ah uso mandrake 7.2
Qualcuno sa darmi qualche consiglio ??
grazie !!!
Giulio





Re: [newbie-it] modem non risponde

2001-09-09 Per discussione dragx

mario wrote:
 
 ecco altri dettagli
 il modem  interno
 è sulla porta com 3
 e mi collego a inwind con la normale linea
 per quanto riguarda provare il collegamento come root
 chiedo spiegzioni,perchè le mie capacita con linux sono scarse
 ho installato il sistema una settimana fa per provare ad avvicinarmi a
 questo sistema.
 Ciao e grazie

modem interno?? allora sicuramente è un winmodem...ora non ti resta che
sapere che chipset ha , così sai cosa devi cercare.altrimenti sei
proprio al buio.
Serve sapere iil tipo di modem e la distro che usi




Re: [newbie-it] modem non risponde

2001-09-09 Per discussione mario

ecco altri dettagli
il modem  interno
è sulla porta com 3
e mi collego a inwind con la normale linea
per quanto riguarda provare il collegamento come root
chiedo spiegzioni,perchè le mie capacita con linux sono scarse
ho installato il sistema una settimana fa per provare ad avvicinarmi a
questo sistema.
Ciao e grazie
- Original Message -
From: freefred [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie-it] modem non risponde


 On Sunday 09 September 2001 16:24, Mario Beretta wrote:
  Ciao a tutti,da poco ho installato linux mandrake,e premetto che su
questo
  sistema sono molto ma molto inesperto il mio problema è questo,quando
cerco
  di connettermi la finestra mi dice modem prontoin seguito quando
clicco
  su connetti mi dice il modem non rispondecosa posso fare?se non sono
  stato chiaro abbiate pazienza e chiedetemi ulteriori dettagli,grazie un
  saluto a tutti.

 e' un modem interno o esterno?
 su che porta e'?
 hai provato anche come root?
 cosa usi per collegarti?
 dovrai essere un po' piu' preciso:-)

 bye

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[newbie-it] problema con lilo

2001-09-09 Per discussione Valentino Castelli



Ciao a tutti
ho installato Mandrake 8 su un hd da 9 Gb 
collegato al secondo canale udma 66 (hdg7)nellla cofigurazione 
dililo ho sceltofd0 ma quando faccio il boot
si blocca subito, sullo schermo nero compare solo 
la scritta LI.


[newbie-it] Chiusura sessione con tastiera

2001-09-09 Per discussione Alberto Zanoni

Salve,
una domanda per il logout. Poichè sono un appassionato della tastiera ed uso 
pochissimo il mouse, ho un bottleneck quando chiudo una sessione. Con 
Ctrl+Alt+Del chiudo KDE e ritorno alla finestrella iniziale dove mi si chiede 
la login e la password. Col tanto Tab riesco ad andare sul pulsante di 
uscita, e la voce arresta sistema è già attivata. Dovrei, a questo punto, 
premere sul tasto OK, e l'unico modo in cui riesco a farlo è con il mouse.
Qualcuno sa se sia possibile farlo anche da tastiera ?

Grazie anticipate,
Alberto
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Re: [newbie] I NEED OF HELP - Mandrake 8.0

2001-09-09 Per discussione Bill R

On Sunday 09 September 2001 02:10 am, you wrote:
  HSP56 MicroModem

Normally a HSP means its a software modem that is tied to the OS/Windows and 
will not work under Linux though some work has been done in this area. Check 
out http://www.linmodems.org 





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[newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione strab dogg

Hello ,

I got a problem , my 2 hdd's are full and i need the space from the linux 
hdd .
How can i uninstall Linux and LILO ? And how can i turn my hdd from linux 
filesystem to fat32 .

I thought on part. magic . But i dont know how to do it neither how to 
uninstall lilo .

Ok thank you

Please help .

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RE: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael Spivak

Actually, to remove the lilo, you should boot from ordinary DOS diskete, and
type
'fdisk /mbr' - this will remove from MBR record of the LILO (clean it) .
About the partitions - i think you should use the Linux's fdisk to remove
the ext2 
partitions, and then use the DOS fdisk to recreate the regular fat16/32.

Hope i helped

-Original Message-
From: strab dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 9:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?


Hello ,

I got a problem , my 2 hdd's are full and i need the space from the linux 
hdd .
How can i uninstall Linux and LILO ? And how can i turn my hdd from linux 
filesystem to fat32 .

I thought on part. magic . But i dont know how to do it neither how to 
uninstall lilo .

Ok thank you

Please help .

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Dave Sherman

On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 02:22, strab dogg wrote:
 Hello ,
 
 I got a problem , my 2 hdd's are full and i need the space from the linux 
 hdd .
 How can i uninstall Linux and LILO ? And how can i turn my hdd from linux 
 filesystem to fat32 .
 
 I thought on part. magic . But i dont know how to do it neither how to 
 uninstall lilo .
 
 Ok thank you
 
 Please help .

There is no uninstall method, except to fdisk  format the drive.
'fdisk /mbr' (from a DOS prompt -- boot from a Win98 boot diskette) will
get rid of LILO, and 'fdisk' will allow you to delete your non-DOS
partition(s) and create one or more DOS partitions. You then need to
format each partition (again in DOS, using a Win98 boot diskette) to
make them usable. If your boot diskette's version of 'format' will not
support fat32, then you can always convert to fat32 after Windows is
installed.

Dave

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Don Wilson

If you just need disk space, why not do some housekeeping first and use the
Windows tools to clean out the recycle bin,  temporary files, old Windows
uninstall info, down-loaded files, etc.? Also remove old programs you aren't
using any more.  You will be shocked how much space can be recovered and you
may be able to keep Linux.  I keep my disk cleaned up and I just checked and
I can recover 140MB from less than a week.  Run Disk Cleanup in System
Tools.  Also in in your browser, reduce the time for hanging on to history.
I use ten days and if I haven't returned to a site within 10 days, I
probably never will.  Of course if you really want to throw Linux away,
follow the instructions Civileme sent.




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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

There is no uninstall method, except to fdisk  format the drive.
'fdisk /mbr' (from a DOS prompt -- boot from a Win98 boot diskette) will
get rid of LILO, and 'fdisk' will allow you to delete your non-DOS
partition(s) and create one or more DOS partitions. You then need to
format each partition (again in DOS, using a Win98 boot diskette) to
make them usable. If your boot diskette's version of 'format' will not
support fat32, then you can always convert to fat32 after Windows is
installed.

Dave

Dave, Michael S, and original poster,

Actually, you won't be able to remove the ext2 partitions with windows
fdisk--what you've done if you clear the mbr first is no way to get into
linux (other than via a boot disk) to remove the ext2 partition
information.  What needs to happen is boot using something similar to tom's
root / boot disk (link should be off the distribution page of linux.org)
or into your linux install, run linux fdisk as root, remove all ext2
partitions.  Boot into windows, run 'fdisk /mbr' (note, this is windows
fdisk), reboot using the floppy, and repartition the drive using windows
fdiskm, setting up partitions for a FAT16 or FAT32 partition - if it is a
large drive, choose FAT32 (FAT16 has a limit of 2 GB per partition), then
format.

This is, of course, the same set of instructions that civilme sent to the
list.

In the next few days, I'll have finished a FAQ relating to questions (using
my answers) that have been posted to this list and the expert list--if
nothing else, civilme, myself, and the other experts on the list can post
the url for the person to look at instead of sending the same instructions
to the list every time -- I've seen at least 3 or 4 posts concerning
uninstalls, for example.

Michael

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[newbie] Masquerading and Bastille

2001-09-09 Per discussione Colin Jenkins

Hello all,

I have a strange problem with Bastille which I'm hoping someone can
help with.
I'm running lm8 as a logon server for my windows boxes, and have a
dial-up connection shared with Internet connection sharing.
I am also running DHCP.
Everything seems to work ok, but when I set up InteractiveBastille and
turned off Internet connection sharing, DHCP no longer works.
If I turn it on and restart Bastille through a shell, everthing works,
but I get an error you have Bastille configured for Masquerading and
you have enabled Mandrakes Internet connection sharing 
Can anyone give any suggestions? (apart from using fixed ip's)

  



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[newbie] g++ package?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Kaspar Landsberg

Hello,

i am using Mandrake Linux 7.2 and try to compile a simple C++ program:

#include string

int main(void) {return 0;}

when i try to compile this with g++/c++, the compiler gives me the error
message:

blah.cc:1: string: file or directory not found

it appears that the C++ header files are missing or something like that.
which package contains those header files?

[root@machine /root]# gcc --version
2.95.3

[root@machine /root]# g++ --version
2.95.3

[root@machine /root]# rpm -q gcc
gcc-2.95.2-12mdk

please CC me all replies since i am not on this list.

Thanks, Kaspar

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RE: [newbie] g++ package?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael Spivak

Actually, you've forgot the '.h' in the #include line :
#include string should be
#include string.h
then everything will be ok ... ;-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] g++ package?


Hello,

i am using Mandrake Linux 7.2 and try to compile a simple C++ program:

#include string

int main(void) {return 0;}

when i try to compile this with g++/c++, the compiler gives me the error
message:

blah.cc:1: string: file or directory not found

it appears that the C++ header files are missing or something like that.
which package contains those header files?

[root@machine /root]# gcc --version
2.95.3

[root@machine /root]# g++ --version
2.95.3

[root@machine /root]# rpm -q gcc
gcc-2.95.2-12mdk

please CC me all replies since i am not on this list.

Thanks, Kaspar

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michel Clasquin

On Sunday 09 September 2001 10:30, Michael D. Viron wrote:
 In the next few days, I'll have finished a FAQ relating to questions (using
 my answers) that have been posted to this list and the expert list--if
 nothing else, civilme, myself, and the other experts on the list can post
 the url for the person to look at instead of sending the same instructions
 to the list every time -- I've seen at least 3 or 4 posts concerning
 uninstalls, for example.

A great idea and thank for putting in the time for us.

On another note, I think the members of this list ought to give themselves a 
little pat on the back - somebody decides to return to windows, asks how to 
do it, and apart from a few wry ironic remarks, he does not get flamed, just 
the instruction he asked for. Good work.

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[newbie] CD writer

2001-09-09 Per discussione Ben Barker

I have recently installed mandrake 8.0. Mostly everything is Ok, but I have
one big problem. Although I can access my DVD drive, attempting to access my
CD writer inariably crashes the system. Going into harddrake, there appears
to be a problem of some sort - the device is listed as both a scsi and an
ide interface (it is an ide drive). The drive model is Ricoh MP7083A-DP. I
attempted to run the 'drives' tool in harddrake merely because it looked
like it might help - however, nothing appeared to happen. As you have
probably guessed, I am a complete beginner, and any help would be very
welcome.




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[newbie] Installing glibc-2.2.4

2001-09-09 Per discussione Naish

I've installed Pan 0.10, but it won't work unless I install glibc-2.2.3 or 
newer. I've downloaded 2.2.4 but when i'm installing, it downloads 
glibc-devel-2.2.3 also, and, when it's installing, It reports an error:
gcc 2.6 has a conflict and glibc(the version I have) too. So, I can
ignore, but I don't know if all will work after this... so, I canceled. What
should I do? Uninstall glibc old version and then try? or just ignore?
or what?



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RE: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael Spivak

Can you please be more specific about the RH list ?
Where can we join it ?


-Original Message-
From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?


On Sunday 09 September 2001 05:18, Michel Clasquin wrote:


On another note, I think the members of this list ought to give themselves a

little pat on the back - somebody decides to return to windows, asks how to 
do it, and apart from a few wry ironic remarks, he does not get flamed, just

the instruction he asked for. Good work.

Well, if someone chooses what he really wants, we are not here to make him 
change his choices.  We are here to assure he _HAS_ a choice.  We also help 
out people with RH questions (and if you are curious, join a RH list for a 
couple of days and you will easily reach the correct answer as a logical 
conclusion).  

Other OSes may be about proselyting.  Mandrake is about choice.  

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Re: [newbie] How to change default login group

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:01:18 +1000, George Petri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:03, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
  On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:59, George Petri wrote:
   I know this is a very, very trivial question but for some reason I can't
   find the manual for it:
  
   How do I change the default login group for a user?
  
   I've looked in /etd/passwd and man -a passwd but have found nothing
   relevant.
  
   Currently, if I log in my group name is the same as my user name.
   Now, if for some reason I wanted to change the group that I start up in
   (so that new files that I make are owned by george.newgroup),
   how would I do it?
  
   Please point me to the relevant manuals or just give me the answer :)
  
   Thanks in advance,
   George
 
  Take a look at userdrake.
 
 The Default group: thing is greyed out.
 How do I fix this?
 
 TIA,
 George

Try editing /etc/group.

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby

Michael Spivak wrote:
 
 Can you please be more specific about the RH list ?
 Where can we join it ?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?
 
 On Sunday 09 September 2001 05:18, Michel Clasquin wrote:
 
 On another note, I think the members of this list ought to give themselves a
 
 little pat on the back - somebody decides to return to windows, asks how to
 do it, and apart from a few wry ironic remarks, he does not get flamed, just
 
 the instruction he asked for. Good work.
 
 Well, if someone chooses what he really wants, we are not here to make him
 change his choices.  We are here to assure he _HAS_ a choice.  We also help
 out people with RH questions (and if you are curious, join a RH list for a
 couple of days and you will easily reach the correct answer as a logical
 conclusion).
 
 Other OSes may be about proselyting.  Mandrake is about choice.
 
 Civileme
 

Go to the Red Hat home page; click on mail list archives, or somesuch,
at the bottom of the page, and you'll get be directed to the RH mailing
lists, along with subscription directions. There are about 18 or more of
them. Do yourself a favor, and read up on the term RTFM before
subscribing. It may come in handy.
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[newbie] KDE Desktop Modifications

2001-09-09 Per discussione Lanman

I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me out with 2 small problems. 
I'm in the process of trying to Lock Down KDE on Mandrake 8.0 . In other 
words, I'm trying to remove some functionality. If successful, users will 
only have the ability to click on designated icons on the desktop. So far, 
I've been able to get rid of the panel (taskbar), I've made the desktop 
read-only, gotten rid of the right-click option on the desktop, and 
changed permissions on the remainig icons to read and execute only.

My last few problems are as follows;

1) After removing the panel and right-click menu, I no longer have a simple 
way to Log-Off the users, short of using the CTRL-ALT-Backspace keystroke. 
I assume that since log-offs can be done by clicking a button on the panel, 
that there is a command that will work, but I have no idea what it is.  The 
logout command - when run from a console will not work, and it suggests 
that I use exit, which only closes the console. What I need is a command 
that will start the log-off process by using an icon. 

2) I need to eliminate the right-click option when the mouse-pointer is 
positioned over an icon.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Lanman



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Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card

2001-09-09 Per discussione etharp

thanks for all the info. do you have and use USB devices? can you disable USB 
in BIOS? have you disabled the serial ports? do you not have a modem, and 
have a high-bandwidth? looks to me as if the cards are not setup in netconf. 
i also wonder why your video card does not show up in the cat 
proc/interrupts, do you have a setting in BIOS that saves an IRQ for video? 
needs to be enabled I believe for that card. can we MAKE sure that plug and 
pray aware OS is set to OFF in bios?


On Sunday 09 September 2001 00:27, you had thoughts to the concept of:
 OUTPUT
 
 dmesg
 Linux version 2.4.8-12mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
 egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release / Linux-Mandrake 8.1))
 #1 Fri Aug 24 16:18:19 CEST 2001
 BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
  BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
  BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0400 (usable)
  BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
 On node 0 totalpages: 16384
 zone(0): 4096 pages.
 zone(1): 12288 pages.
 zone(2): 0 pages.
 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=301 devfs=mount
 Initializing CPU#0
 Detected 265.912 MHz processor.
 Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
 Calibrating delay loop... 530.84 BogoMIPS
 Memory: 61572k/65536k available (1068k kernel code, 3576k reserved, 393k
 data, 708k init, 0k highmem)
 Dentry-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
 Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
 Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
 Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
 Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
 CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0080f9ff  , vendor = 0
 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
 CPU: L2 cache: 512K
 Intel machine check architecture supported.
 Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
 CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0080f9ff   
 CPU: After generic, caps: 0080f9ff   
 CPU: Common caps: 0080f9ff   
 CPU: Intel Pentium II (Klamath) stepping 03
 Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
 POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
 mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfda11, last bus=0
 PCI: Using configuration type 1
 PCI: Probing PCI hardware
 Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
 Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds.
 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
 isapnp: Card 'OPL3-SA2 Sound Chip'
 isapnp: 1 Plug  Play card detected total
 PnP: PNP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fa1b0
 PnP: PNP BIOS version 1.0, entry at f:a2b0, dseg at 400
 PnP: 14 devices detected total
 Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
 Initializing RT netlink socket
 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.14)
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Re: [newbie] DVD Divx ;-) under Linux?

2001-09-09 Per discussione s

On Sunday 09 September 2001 08:34 am,  Marcin Jendrzejewski wrote:
 Hey everyone,
 Much appreciated if anyone can point me to a decent DVD
 player under linux.
 Thanks

 Marcin Jendrzejewski

Here's my two favorite:
http://www.videolan.org/ - best one, imo
http://xine.sourceforge.net/

and for downloaded divx (tho I've heard of people using this one for dvds 
too):
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/news.html

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Re: [newbie] DVD Divx ;-) under Linux?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Mohammed Arafa

www.projectmayo.com is the creator of divx and there is the Playa for divx
movie. very nice very Windows(TM).
on the other hand, linux is a hassle, and i m talking from experience, if u
look back into the mail archives of about a week u will find a request for
help from me.  (what does ...) and (rpmdrake: rpm installed error)
if u wanna go with xine or xmms or xmps (forget xmovie, its outdated) the
dependant libraries are available at www.rpmfind.net but then u get into
hassles with rpmdrake. i used kpackage to install the libraries but was
still unsuccessful
.
i finally managed to get mpeg to play with www.mpegtv.com 's mtvp which
installs with all the libraries included.

enjoy



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From: Marcin Jendrzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: [newbie] DVD  Divx ;-) under Linux?


 Hey everyone,
 Today I just picked up Dark City and was hoping to view it.  Initially I
 had expected to be able to view it fine in Windows 2000 (it still has
 its uses) but lo-and-behold it didn't (kept jamming while loading).
  Anyhow, I thought I might be lucky and try out Linux.  I tried using
 xmovie and after switing to audio stream 2 it stopped crashing.
  However, I'm just wondering if there are any faster players (possibly
 supporting a reduction in quality) as xmovie is producing jerky frame
 rates (15-18) even @ half size.  I have a Athlon T/Bird 800 with 512
 megs of RAM and a 12x Actima DVD and Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 with 64
 megs of RAM.   Much appreciated if anyone can point me to a decent DVD
 player under linux.
 Thanks

 Marcin Jendrzejewski










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RE: [newbie] Networking setup

2001-09-09 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez


Ideally should should have initially inserted the card BEFORE installing
Mandrake, so that it would have set everything up for you.

If you already have it in place, you'll need to at least once insert the
card BEFORE the machine boots so that HardDrake can configure it.

lsdev should then show you if it has been recognized, as will lsmod
to show you the module loaded... Though Linuxconf/HardDrake may not get
this right on an already installed unit... (actually it does a great
job, but the installation scripts are oriented to a first time
install...)

You'll also have to set up networking in Linuxconf to utilize the card.

-JMS
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|On Behalf Of Robert F. Trettel
|Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 3:05 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: [newbie] Networking setup
|
|
|Hi All,
|
|I am in the process of building a 3 computer network which is as
|follows:
|Tower acting as server
|a desktop as a workstation
|and a laptop workstation needs to be removable from network
|
|That said now the laptop has a problem the linksys EtherFast 
|10/100 is not reginized hear a long and short beep when 
|inserting. Did some checking at Linksys web site,they say to 
|get it to work have to do 
|some compiling. heck I can just barely get things done as is. 
|Have tons of books on Linux,but they all talk way above me. 
|Does anybody know of a network card that is *no* problem?? So 
|far I can ping the tower at Ip address and dns. Can ping the 
|desktop at its IP address but not its dns.
|
|Hope somebody can lend a hand (not geek)
|Thanks 
|Robert F. Trettel
|
|


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Re: [newbie] The 2nd Mandrake 8 CD

2001-09-09 Per discussione George Petri

On Sunday 09 September 2001 22:59, you wrote:
 It depnds on the packages you choose.  Likely you didn't choose anything
 that was on the second disk.
I wanted to install DosEMU and TiMidity and Penguin Command (2nd CD)
but they weren't even one of the choices.


 I've installed and re-installed LM8 several times over the past few months
 and I've noticed that a minimal install (selecting configuration and the
 KDE and GNOME desktops)  doesn't require the second CD at all.

 If there is the opossibility you missed something during install, it might
 be the first step of choosing packages where the install program asks you
 if you have the 2nd CD available for installing from.  I've always
 installed in the expert mode and it always asks.  HTH.

I've been through the setup program three times after stuffing up the install
by having the X Test Configuraiton crash the install program, when someone
tripped over the power plug and when I forgot to choose reiserfs.
Is there a single-cd version of mandrake?  Perhaps my friend burnt that and
the 2nd cd of the two-cd version?

thanks again,
george



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Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop Modifications

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:20:19 -0400, Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me out with 2 small problems. 
 I'm in the process of trying to Lock Down KDE on Mandrake 8.0 . In other 
 words, I'm trying to remove some functionality. If successful, users will 
 only have the ability to click on designated icons on the desktop. So far, 
 I've been able to get rid of the panel (taskbar), I've made the desktop 
 read-only, gotten rid of the right-click option on the desktop, and 
 changed permissions on the remainig icons to read and execute only.
 
 My last few problems are as follows;
 
 1) After removing the panel and right-click menu, I no longer have a simple 
 way to Log-Off the users, short of using the CTRL-ALT-Backspace keystroke. 
 I assume that since log-offs can be done by clicking a button on the panel, 
 that there is a command that will work, but I have no idea what it is.  The 
 logout command - when run from a console will not work, and it suggests 
 that I use exit, which only closes the console. What I need is a command 
 that will start the log-off process by using an icon. 
 
 2) I need to eliminate the right-click option when the mouse-pointer is 
 positioned over an icon.
 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
 
 Lanman

Both GNOME and KDE have 'kiosk' modes, so-called because they are designed to be
used by anybody in an information kiosk. I don't know the specifics, but you may
want to do a search of KDE kiosk or GNOME kiosk at a site like Google
(http://www.google.com/linux).

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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Re: [newbie] DVD Divx ;-) under Linux?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 23:34:07 +1000, Marcin Jendrzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hey everyone,
 Today I just picked up Dark City and was hoping to view it.  Initially I 
 had expected to be able to view it fine in Windows 2000 (it still has 
 its uses) but lo-and-behold it didn't (kept jamming while loading). 
  Anyhow, I thought I might be lucky and try out Linux.  I tried using 
 xmovie and after switing to audio stream 2 it stopped crashing. 
  However, I'm just wondering if there are any faster players (possibly 
 supporting a reduction in quality) as xmovie is producing jerky frame 
 rates (15-18) even @ half size.  I have a Athlon T/Bird 800 with 512 
 megs of RAM and a 12x Actima DVD and Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 with 64 
 megs of RAM.   Much appreciated if anyone can point me to a decent DVD 
 player under linux.  
 Thanks
 
 Marcin Jendrzejewski

Try http://xine.sourceforge.net/

-- 
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There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?OT

2001-09-09 Per discussione Peter Watson

On Sunday 09 September 2001 14:30 pm, civileme wrote:
 On Sunday 09 September 2001 03:22, strab dogg wrote:
  Hello ,
 
  I got a problem , my 2 hdd's are full and i need the space from the linux
  hdd .
  How can i uninstall Linux and LILO ? And how can i turn my hdd from linux
  filesystem to fat32 .
 
  I thought on part. magic . But i dont know how to do it neither how to
  uninstall lilo .
 
  Ok thank you
 
  Please help .

 Well, I am assuming you are using a dos-based windows.

 1. Make a DOS boot floppy if you don't already have one

 2. Boot into linux and login as root.

 3. If you are in console mode, stay there.  If you are in some desktop,
 open up a terminal.

 4. from the command line

 # fdisk /dev/hdb

 or hdc or hdd, whichever is the linux disk

 pprints the artition table on the screen

 d deletes a numbered partition

 keep on with p and d until all linux partitions and any extended partition
 enclosing them are gone.

 wwrites out the partition table to disk

 Then put your DOS boot floppy into the machine and

 # reboot

 When you get the A: prompt from DOS

 A: fdisk /mbr

 And yes the forward slash is correct.

 Remove the floppy and reset, Now you can use windows fdisk to partition the
 space where linux was, and FORMAT E: ,etc to format the partitions you
 make.

 Then no part of your computer will belong to you any longer, but If that is
 what you choose, so be it.

 Civileme


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I read these lists with great interest and learn a lot, but as I'm already 57 
yrs old I don't think I'll make it onto the experts list.

This one puzzles me however, how can you use a linux utility to remove the 
partitions that linux resides on. This sounds like the computing equivalent 
of sawing off the branch that you are sitting on.

Any explanations gratefully received.
-- 

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[newbie] login manager

2001-09-09 Per discussione David Robertson

Hi, everyone.

I've just defected to Mandrake 8.0 from RH 7.1 because I'm not too
happy with the way that RH is going as a company and so far I like it a
lot, especially the ease with which you can update.

However, I prefer to run Gnome and would rather log in with gdm, but
can't get rid of KDM! I've created /etc/sysconfig/desktop containing
only GNOME and /etc/X11/prefdm does seem to specify gdm if the
preferred desktop is Gnome, but every time I start up, there's KDM! How
do I change this (or does Mandrake's gdm look like KDM?)

Thanks

David




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Re: [newbie] Installing glibc-2.2.4

2001-09-09 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Sunday 09 September 2001 11:25 am, Naish escribió:
 I've installed Pan 0.10, but it won't work unless I install
 glibc-2.2.3 or newer. I've downloaded 2.2.4 but when i'm installing,
 it downloads glibc-devel-2.2.3 also, and, when it's installing, It
 reports an error: gcc 2.6 has a conflict and glibc(the version I
 have) too. So, I can ignore, but I don't know if all will work after
 this... so, I canceled. What should I do? Uninstall glibc old version
 and then try? or just ignore? or what?

 What always works for me is to d/l the  glibc-2.2.4-2mdk.src.rpm
and do 'rpm --rebuild glibc-2.2.4-2mdk.src.rpm'.  Then upgrade the rpms 
that this writes in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i?86  using 'rpm -Uvh'.  I don't 
uninstall the existing glibc first. If this won't work for you you need 
to tell us what Mandrake version you're using. I doubt your gcc is 2.6

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Re: [newbie] login manager

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On 09 Sep 2001 15:01:57 -0400, David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi, everyone.
 
 I've just defected to Mandrake 8.0 from RH 7.1 because I'm not too
 happy with the way that RH is going as a company and so far I like it a
 lot, especially the ease with which you can update.
 
 However, I prefer to run Gnome and would rather log in with gdm, but
 can't get rid of KDM! I've created /etc/sysconfig/desktop containing
 only GNOME and /etc/X11/prefdm does seem to specify gdm if the
 preferred desktop is Gnome, but every time I start up, there's KDM! How
 do I change this (or does Mandrake's gdm look like KDM?)
 
 Thanks
 
 David

Is the gdm package installed?

You may also want to consider upgrading to Ximian GNOME. Besides getting an
improved GNOME installation, it will ask you if you want to use GDM. If you say
yes, it will automatically configure it for you.

-- 
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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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Re: [newbie] login manager

2001-09-09 Per discussione cc tsim

Try this

First, do a backup of prefdm (for safety):

cp /etc/X11/prefdm /root

Then delete it:

rm /etc/X11/prefdm

Then create a symbolic link:

ln -s /usr/bin/gdm /etc/X11/prefdm

and reboot. That's it.

From: David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] login manager
Date: 09 Sep 2001 15:01:57 -0400

Hi, everyone.

I've just defected to Mandrake 8.0 from RH 7.1 because I'm not too
happy with the way that RH is going as a company and so far I like it a
lot, especially the ease with which you can update.

However, I prefer to run Gnome and would rather log in with gdm, but
can't get rid of KDM! I've created /etc/sysconfig/desktop containing
only GNOME and /etc/X11/prefdm does seem to specify gdm if the
preferred desktop is Gnome, but every time I start up, there's KDM! How
do I change this (or does Mandrake's gdm look like KDM?)

Thanks

David


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Re: [newbie] hostname: bash-2.05

2001-09-09 Per discussione Jay DeKing

The later version of bash does not mess up your bashrc, but it won't restore 
your lost one either, if I understand you correctly.

Jay

On Friday 07 September 2001 11:17, I was honored with this communique:
 right, some more interesting facts i have just discovered:
 i have lost the pretty colors in my terminal.
 it doesn't appear to live in /etc, now i dont know if that's bad or not,
 but there is where it lives:
 bash-2.05$ locate bashrc
 /etc/skel/.bashrc
 /home/antoine/.bashrc
 bash-2.05$ cd /
 bash-2.05$ locate bash-2.05
 /var/cache/grpmi/bash-2.05-6mdk.i586.rpm
 /usr/share/doc/bash-2.05
 /usr/share/doc/bash-2.05/README
 /usr/share/doc/bash-2.05/CHANGES

 would trying to upgrade it with a later bash-2.05 from mandrake cooker
 possibly solve my probleme?(i suppose i could try, and i will unless
 somebody tells me it's a bad idea)

 On Thursday 06 September 2001 20:09, you wrote:
  Well, when I loaded bash-2.05, I didn't have any hostname issues as such,
  but it did rename /etc/bashrc to /etc/bashrc.rpmnew - which caused a bit
  of confusion as my custom prompt was located there. All I had to do was
  change the name of the file back and all was well.
 
  Hope this helps.
  Jay
 
  On Friday 07 September 2001 12:38, I was honored with this communique:
   On Thursday 06 September 2001 13:38, you wrote:
Does the user that you were loged in have permissons on his assigned
home directory?
The same happened to my a couple of days before, and I see in
LunxConf that the home directory of the user I was logging in was
created by the root and the user ddidn't have permissons . . .
   
Maybe it's just a coincidence
  
   the user does have permissions to his home directerory, and furthermore
   the same thing occurs when logged in as root. when changing directory,
   that bash-2.05$
   doesn't change to bash -2.05/directory$ or anything, i am baffled
  
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] hostname: bash-2.05
   
   
hi
i think i might have seen somebody emailing about that prob before,
but i cant find it in the archive:
in term windows, my hostname has been replaced by
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anybody?
  
   
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione civileme

On Sunday 09 September 2001 03:22, strab dogg wrote:
 Hello ,

 I got a problem , my 2 hdd's are full and i need the space from the linux
 hdd .
 How can i uninstall Linux and LILO ? And how can i turn my hdd from linux
 filesystem to fat32 .

 I thought on part. magic . But i dont know how to do it neither how to
 uninstall lilo .

 Ok thank you

 Please help .

Well, I am assuming you are using a dos-based windows.  

1. Make a DOS boot floppy if you don't already have one

2. Boot into linux and login as root.

3. If you are in console mode, stay there.  If you are in some desktop, open 
up a terminal.

4. from the command line

# fdisk /dev/hdb

or hdc or hdd, whichever is the linux disk

pprints the artition table on the screen

d deletes a numbered partition

keep on with p and d until all linux partitions and any extended partition 
enclosing them are gone.

wwrites out the partition table to disk

Then put your DOS boot floppy into the machine and 

# reboot

When you get the A: prompt from DOS

A: fdisk /mbr

And yes the forward slash is correct.

Remove the floppy and reset, Now you can use windows fdisk to partition the 
space where linux was, and FORMAT E: ,etc to format the partitions you make.

Then no part of your computer will belong to you any longer, but If that is 
what you choose, so be it.

Civileme



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RE: [newbie] I NEED OF HELP - Mandrake 8.0

2001-09-09 Per discussione EDUARDO CERONI









Yo tambien cuando sepas como cargar el MODEM de la placa madre pc 100
super socket 7, te agracecere me avises

gracias



EDUARDO CERONI



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adilson Nunes
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001
8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] I NEED OF HELP -
Mandrake 8.0



Mandrake 8.0 - 2.4.3-20mdk



I install the Linux Mandrake 8.0 in my computer and
have two weeks what can´t use my modem HSP56 MicroModem I need of instructions
and drivers for install my modem. I don´t want more use Windows. Please help me
have many days and don´t have success. My english is bad I am brazilian. Kernel
version 2.4.3-20mdk. If i can´t configure i go format my HD and back to
Windows, because without connection i can´t stay. I job with the internet.





PLEASE HELP ME. DONT WANT BACK TO WINDOWS !!!








Re: [newbie] login manager

2001-09-09 Per discussione H. Narfi Stefansson


 However, I prefer to run Gnome and would rather log in with gdm, but
 can't get rid of KDM! I've created /etc/sysconfig/desktop containing
 only GNOME and /etc/X11/prefdm does seem to specify gdm if the
 preferred desktop is Gnome, but every time I start up, there's KDM! How
 do I change this (or does Mandrake's gdm look like KDM?)

I believe /etc/sysconfig/desktop should contain the line
DESKTOP=GNOME
see /etc/X11/prefdm:
. /etc/sysconfig/desktop /dev/null 21
[ -n $DISPLAYMANAGER ]  DESKTOP=$DISPLAYMANAGER
if [ $DESKTOP = GNOME -o $DESKTOP = Gnome ]; then
preferred=gdm
elif [ $DESKTOP = KDE -o $DESKTOP = KDE1 -o $DESKTOP =
KDE2
]; then
preferred=/usr/bin/kdm
elif [ $DESKTOP = AnotherLevel ] ; then
preferred=/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm

or you can look at the story on www.mandrakeforum on this topic:
http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=964lang=en

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Re: FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:43:01 -0700, Ah Pook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 9/8/2001 7:18:43 AM, etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 about a million people are going to tell you (and they are correct) that the 
 GIMP is every bit as good as photoshop, and they do not have the US gov. put 
 people in jail for talking about how poor their encryption is under the DMCA.

 
   And a million graphic designers would reply that Gimp doesn't have Pantone
colors, and probably never will.  
 It's useless for a lot of people.
   ///

That would be The GIMP's main shortcoming. From my understanding, CYMK support
in PhotoShop is the result of licensing from printer manufacturers, something
which The GIMP can't do.

Besides that, it has _far_ more powerful scripting (Script Fu) than PhotoShop
and is ahead in a few other areas.

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[newbie] FAQ was re: Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)

Please post a link to the faq on 'completion'?




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Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card

2001-09-09 Per discussione ryan_steffes

I can disable USB and on board sound in BIOS.

Here's how my PnP bios look:

I have two options initially:
   Configuration Mode: [Use PnP OS]
   PnP OS: [Disabled]

This is what it was. Looks like PnP is disabled to me, so that's how I
had it.  The other thing I can do is change it to:

   Configuration Mode: [Compatible OS]
   IRQ 3  [Available]
   IRQ 4  [Available]
   IRQ 5  [Available]
   IRQ 9  [Available]
   IRQ 10 [Available]
   IRQ 11 [Available]


netconf has the IP and host name all correct for each card, and the
module set correctly.  However, this is what modprobe gives me:

/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: invalid
parameter parm_irq
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: insmod 3c59x
failed
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: invalid
parameter parm_irq
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod 8139too
failed

I can directly insmod the 3com driver and have it work:
insmod 3c59x
Using /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz

I can now ping the internal network, at this point. Doing the same thing
for the d-link/realtek card seems to work, but doesn't really:
insmod 8139too
Using /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz

ping www.linux-mandrake.com

Network is unreachable.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network
card
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:33:48 -0400
From: etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks for all the info. do you have and use USB devices? can you
disable USB 
in BIOS? have you disabled the serial ports? do you not have a modem,
and 
have a high-bandwidth? looks to me as if the cards are not setup in
netconf. 
i also wonder why your video card does not show up in the cat 
proc/interrupts, do you have a setting in BIOS that saves an IRQ for
video? 
needs to be enabled I believe for that card. can we MAKE sure that plug
and 
pray aware OS is set to OFF in bios?


On Sunday 09 September 2001 00:27, you had thoughts to the concept of:
 OUTPUT
 
 dmesg
 Linux version 2.4.8-12mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
 egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release / Linux-Mandrake 8.1))
 #1 Fri Aug 24 16:18:19 CEST 2001
 BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
  BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
  BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0400 (usable)
  BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
 On node 0 totalpages: 16384
 zone(0): 4096 pages.
 zone(1): 12288 pages.
 zone(2): 0 pages.
 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=301 devfs=mount
 Initializing CPU#0
 Detected 265.912 MHz processor.
 Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
 Calibrating delay loop... 530.84 BogoMIPS
 Memory: 61572k/65536k available (1068k kernel code, 3576k reserved, 393k
 data, 708k init, 0k highmem)
 Dentry-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
 Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
 Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
 Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
 Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
 CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0080f9ff  , vendor = 0
 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
 CPU: L2 cache: 512K
 Intel machine check architecture supported.
 Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
 CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0080f9ff   
 CPU: After generic, caps: 0080f9ff   
 CPU: Common caps: 0080f9ff   
 CPU: Intel Pentium II (Klamath) stepping 03
 Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
 POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
 mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfda11, last bus=0
 PCI: Using configuration type 1
 PCI: Probing PCI hardware
 Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
 Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds.
 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
 isapnp: Card 'OPL3-SA2 Sound Chip'
 isapnp: 1 Plug  Play card detected total
 PnP: PNP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fa1b0
 PnP: PNP BIOS version 1.0, entry at f:a2b0, dseg at 400
 PnP: 14 devices detected total
 Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
 Initializing RT netlink socket
 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.14)
 Starting kswapd v1.8
 VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
 devfs: v0.113 (20010820) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 devfs: boot_options: 0x1
 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
 Serial driver version 5.05c 

Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?OT

2001-09-09 Per discussione A V Flinsch

On Sunday 09 September 2001 10:50 am, Peter Watson wrote:


 This one puzzles me however, how can you use a linux utility to remove
 the partitions that linux resides on. This sounds like the computing
 equivalent of sawing off the branch that you are sitting on.

 Any explanations gratefully received.

To do this you need to boot of your rescue disk (or the install cd, and 
select rescue). This way, you are not cutting off the branch you are 
sitting on, but rather cutting off the branch you were sitting on 
(before rebooting)


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Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th,
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Re: [newbie] DVD Divx ;-) under Linux?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

Marcin Jendrzejewski wrote:
 
 Hey everyone,
 Today I just picked up Dark City and was hoping to view it.  Initially I
 had expected to be able to view it fine in Windows 2000 (it still has
 its uses) but lo-and-behold it didn't (kept jamming while loading).
  Anyhow, I thought I might be lucky and try out Linux.  I tried using
 xmovie and after switing to audio stream 2 it stopped crashing.
  However, I'm just wondering if there are any faster players (possibly
 supporting a reduction in quality) as xmovie is producing jerky frame
 rates (15-18) even @ half size.  I have a Athlon T/Bird 800 with 512
 megs of RAM and a 12x Actima DVD and Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 with 64
 megs of RAM.   Much appreciated if anyone can point me to a decent DVD
 player under linux.
 Thanks
 
 Marcin Jendrzejewski
 
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Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card

2001-09-09 Per discussione ryan_steffes

ifconfig says:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:1C:47:48  
  inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:240 (240.0 b)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xff00 

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:BA:88:E2:69  
  inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1875 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  RX bytes:113030 (110.3 Kb)  TX bytes:240 (240.0 b)
  Interrupt:9 Base address:0xec00 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:51 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:51 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:3697 (3.6 Kb)  TX bytes:3697 (3.6 Kb)



Seems to try to set both cards to the same IP even though in linuxconf I
set adapter one to 192.168.0.2 (eth0 3c59x) and adapter two to
24.23.67.145 (eth1 8138too).


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network
card
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 20:14:12 +0200
From: Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ryan_steffes wrote:
 
 I can disable USB and on board sound in BIOS.
 
 Here's how my PnP bios look:
 
 I have two options initially:
Configuration Mode: [Use PnP OS]
PnP OS: [Disabled]
 
 This is what it was. Looks like PnP is disabled to me, so that's how I
 had it.  The other thing I can do is change it to:
 
Configuration Mode: [Compatible OS]
IRQ 3  [Available]
IRQ 4  [Available]
IRQ 5  [Available]
IRQ 9  [Available]
IRQ 10 [Available]
IRQ 11 [Available]
 
 netconf has the IP and host name all correct for each card, and the
 module set correctly.  However, this is what modprobe gives me:
 
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: invalid
 parameter parm_irq
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: insmod 3c59x
 failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: invalid
 parameter parm_irq
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod 8139too
 failed
 
 I can directly insmod the 3com driver and have it work:
 insmod 3c59x
 Using /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz

Looks to me there is a line in /etc/modules.conf like:
alias eth0 3c59x and then something like 'irq=...'. I suggest using
just 'alias eth0 3c59x'.

 I can now ping the internal network, at this point. Doing the same thing
 for the d-link/realtek card seems to work, but doesn't really:
 insmod 8139too
 Using /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz
 
 ping www.linux-mandrake.com
 
 Network is unreachable.

What does /sbin/ifconfig say a this point?

-Frans

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[newbie] Installing ximian-gnome

2001-09-09 Per discussione skinky

Hi all

I have downloaded the ximian-gnome installer from www.ximian.com and all 
the rpms from ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586.

Do I uninstall my current corresponding gnome rpms and then run the 
installer or will the installer _update_ the packages?

Or perhaps I shouldn't use the installer but just try the way I updated 
KDE (to KDE2.2) by uninstalling those packages that didn't remove other 
software and then installing all the packages?

Is it OK to do this while in KDE?

I'm trying to avoid stuffing things up and reinstalling LM yet again.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  BTW I'm using LM8.0 2.4.3-20mdk.

TIA
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[newbie] /etc/hosts.allow /etc/exports

2001-09-09 Per discussione nathan wainwright

how do i configure /etc/hosts.allow
to let another machine access
'mount -t nfs 192.168.1.100:/mnt/cdrom /cdrom'?

also, for /etc/exports i used
'/mnt/cdrom *.localdomain(ro,insecure)'

the main thing is that the machine that has to be allowed to access this 
/mnt/cdrom doesnt have full slackware installed... im just trying to get it 
mounted over nfs, so that i can install it properly.

is there a way to use wildcars for /etc/hosts.allow,
and /etc/exports?

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Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card

2001-09-09 Per discussione Frans Ketelaars

ryan_steffes wrote:
 
 I can disable USB and on board sound in BIOS.
 
 Here's how my PnP bios look:
 
 I have two options initially:
Configuration Mode: [Use PnP OS]
PnP OS: [Disabled]
 
 This is what it was. Looks like PnP is disabled to me, so that's how I
 had it.  The other thing I can do is change it to:
 
Configuration Mode: [Compatible OS]
IRQ 3  [Available]
IRQ 4  [Available]
IRQ 5  [Available]
IRQ 9  [Available]
IRQ 10 [Available]
IRQ 11 [Available]
 
 netconf has the IP and host name all correct for each card, and the
 module set correctly.  However, this is what modprobe gives me:
 
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: invalid
 parameter parm_irq
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz: insmod 3c59x
 failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: invalid
 parameter parm_irq
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod 8139too
 failed
 
 I can directly insmod the 3com driver and have it work:
 insmod 3c59x
 Using /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o.gz

Looks to me there is a line in /etc/modules.conf like:
alias eth0 3c59x and then something like 'irq=...'. I suggest using
just 'alias eth0 3c59x'.

 I can now ping the internal network, at this point. Doing the same thing
 for the d-link/realtek card seems to work, but doesn't really:
 insmod 8139too
 Using /lib/modules/2.4.8-12mdk/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz
 
 ping www.linux-mandrake.com
 
 Network is unreachable.

What does /sbin/ifconfig say a this point?

-Frans



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Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card

2001-09-09 Per discussione ryan_steffes


Looks to me there is a line in /etc/modules.conf like:
alias eth0 3c59x and then something like 'irq=...'. I suggest using
just 'alias eth0 3c59x'.


I commented lines from /etc/modules.conf that said:

options eth0 irq=10
options eth1 irq=9

just now, rebooted, and got different errors at boot, but the scroll by
too fast to read.

This time when I run modprobe as root, I don't get anything back at all,
but pinging returns destination host unreachable.

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Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop Modifications

2001-09-09 Per discussione etharp

Oh (he said sheepishly) and will they all have their own login? and can not 
all be a member of group samedesk?

On Sunday 09 September 2001 17:08, you had thoughts to the concept of:
 Normally I would agree with you, but in this case, there will be upwards of
 18,000+ users. That's the membership of the place I work (normal real job).
 That's the reason I need to lock the desktop down. That way, it'll be
 consistent (although somewhat limited ) for all users.

 Lanman

 On Sunday 09 September 2001 10:00 am, you wrote:
  I would wonder if it might be easier to allow each user to have their own
  desktop the way they want, and remove or add them to groups that have
  device permissions?
 
  On Sunday 09 September 2001 09:20, Lanman wrote:
   I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me out with 2 small
   problems. I'm in the process of trying to Lock Down KDE on Mandrake
   8.0 . In other words, I'm trying to remove some functionality. If
   successful, users will only have the ability to click on designated
   icons on the desktop. So far, I've been able to get rid of the panel
   (taskbar), I've made the desktop read-only, gotten rid of the
   right-click option on the desktop, and changed permissions on the
   remainig icons to read and execute only.
  
   My last few problems are as follows;
  
   1) After removing the panel and right-click menu, I no longer have a
   simple way to Log-Off the users, short of using the
   CTRL-ALT-Backspace keystroke. I assume that since log-offs can be done
   by clicking a button on the panel, that there is a command that will
   work, but I have no idea what it is.  The logout command - when run
   from a console will not work, and it suggests that I use exit, which
   only closes the console. What I need is a command that will start the
   log-off process by using an icon.
  
   2) I need to eliminate the right-click option when the mouse-pointer
   is positioned over an icon.
  
   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
  
   Lanman
 
  
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?OT

2001-09-09 Per discussione etharp

I read on one of these lists that because there is so much to learn, linux 
helps prevent oldtimers dease, and if you remember it in the morning, it 
helps prove you don't have it yet.
On Sunday 09 September 2001 17:26, you had thoughts to the concept of:
 Hey, what about us 65 year old Linux fans?

 Art

 - Original Message -
 From: Peter Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I read these lists with great interest and learn a lot, but as I'm already

 57

 yrs old I don't think I'll make it onto the experts list.


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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?OT

2001-09-09 Per discussione Ivor Westwood

At 14:26 9/09/01 -0700, you wrote:
Hey, what about us 65 year old Linux fans?

Art


Hey, what about us 76 year old Linux fans?

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RE: FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already

2001-09-09 Per discussione Siavash Sefidvash

But as I mentioned earlier web editing tools such as Dreamweaver and
UltraDev, InterDev are more important for me. I want to concentrate on
server side script and leave the client side stuff to the likes of
Dreamweaver.

Siavash

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan
Sent: 09 September 2001 04:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ah Pook
Subject: Re: FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already


On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:43:01 -0700, Ah Pook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 9/8/2001 7:18:43 AM, etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 about a million people are going to tell you (and they are correct) that
the
 GIMP is every bit as good as photoshop, and they do not have the US gov.
put
 people in jail for talking about how poor their encryption is under the
DMCA.


   And a million graphic designers would reply that Gimp doesn't have
Pantone
colors, and probably never will.
 It's useless for a lot of people.
   ///

That would be The GIMP's main shortcoming. From my understanding, CYMK
support
in PhotoShop is the result of licensing from printer manufacturers,
something
which The GIMP can't do.

Besides that, it has _far_ more powerful scripting (Script Fu) than
PhotoShop
and is ahead in a few other areas.

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[newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione skinky

Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it 
interesting.  Not such a bad idea.

http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Tim Holmes

I have no problem with Linux awareness, and Get Linux buttons on
webpages.  But if Linux starts to use Micro$HAFT like tactics, we're
becoming the same kind of evil that we've been trying to avoid.  People
would start saying Mandrake$HAFT, or other such references.  I don't
think that's what we want.  Is it?  I know it's not what I want.

I like the Any Damn Browswer campaign, but I'd hate to cause a need for
the Any Damn OS compaing as well.  Some of the things mentioned there
would cause more problems for basic users then it would Micro$HAFT, and
in some cases may even add fuel to their fire.

I'm all up for making things hard on Micro$HAFT, but I don't think this
is the way we need to go about it!  I really don't!
tdh

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| Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it 
| interesting.  Not such a bad idea.
| 
| http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html
| 
| Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Siavash Sefidvash wrote:
 
 Whats RH???

RedHat, a competitor to Mandrake.

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Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:33:42 +1200, skinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it 
 interesting.  Not such a bad idea.
 
 http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html
 
 Cheers
 skinky

Hehe. I can imagine us 'embracing and extending' .NET with DotGNU and Mono.
Since the improvements would be GPL, M$ wouldn't be able to control them, and
they would be forced to emulate us.

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Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Ed Kasky

 From the end of the article:

For those who didn't immediately see the irony in my editorial, I feel it 
necessary to mention that this was only written as a joke in response to 
the frustrating times we're all experiencing in our ever-continuing battle 
with Microsoft.


Written At 05:18 PM Sunday, 9/9/2001 -=
i just read this article and i am incredible disturbed by what i read. Either
this guy (the one who wrote this article) is unbelievable stupid or he's a
paid MS crony. Basically, what he's suggesting is to bark back at the dog that
barks at you. Figure that one out!!

What exactly is what the open source is trying to accomplish? Compete with M$
or be a better, more reliable option for people who use computers? mandrake 8,
gnone, ximian, gnucash, staroffice are excellent examples of the way open
source can outperform microshit products. Adopting, like the author suggests,
microshit strategies will further alianate the few windows users interested in
knowing more about linux.

At best this is a bad idea with good intentions, and at worst, an attempted of
ms cronies to divide the open source community

skinky wrote:

  Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it
  interesting.  Not such a bad idea.
 
  http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html
 
  Cheers
  skinky
 
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RE: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Franki

yeah, I agree, we don't want to get involved in this sort of thing...

However, we don't have the M$ advertising budget,,, the open source comunity
needs to start a centralised awareness
campaign,,, think of ways we can get the good word out there about just how
good the software is...

we have several things to lure people in.

1. a FREE Operating system if one choses to get it that way, and very cheap
if they want to buy it.
2. Shitloads of FREE applications for nearly everything.
3. Support from some huge companies like IBM.
4. Unparalled stability when compared to any winblows version.
5. Unmatched web exposure with Apache.
6. Free Programming languages like perl.
7. A performance Gap has appeared in some areas with Linux and its growing.

There are more too, but you get the idea...


The more people we all make aware of this, the more things will change, the
only reasons MS FUD and other tactics work, is because people don't know any
better and generally won't go out of their way to find out.

If everyone on linux lists convinced two other people of its benefits and
unbeatable TOC... the number of informed people would grow at an
unparalled rate...

just my thoughts... but I really think Mandrake/Suse/Redhat/Caldera and all
the others (possibly even IBM and similiar) need to have a big meeting and
work out ways to Advertise the good word the open source way

All of those companies together still don't have the power of MS in
advertising and FUD and Lawyers... but they certainly have alot more then
any one of them alone..

And its in their best interests,, the more people that know, the more copies
they will sell...

Also, it will benefit all of them because people who get a start on linux
usually end up trying several different Distro's...

I did it myself, Slackware, Caldera then Redhat and finally Mandrake, which
I am sticking with... it does the job nicely,
its easy to setup for the most part, and its as up to date or more so then
the other distros...

I still use windows sometimes,

but I don't use it exclusively and will slowly phazing it out,,, for one
thing, M$ will never get a cent out of me for XP...

One last thought, if all the distros put more of a contribution (more time
and programming expertise then money..) into WINE, and get it to the point
that it can run nearly any software, (preferably even the ones that M$ has
used their nasty tactics to make difficult...)
Then windows wouldn't have a leg left to stand on... particularly if WINE
became intelligent enough to run as a background process and detect win32
apps automagically...


rgds

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i just read this article and i am incredible disturbed by what i read.
Either
this guy (the one who wrote this article) is unbelievable stupid or he's a
paid MS crony. Basically, what he's suggesting is to bark back at the dog
that
barks at you. Figure that one out!!

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[newbie] Printer Setup for Staroffice

2001-09-09 Per discussione Linus Drouhard

I just got a new Espon 777 printer.  I cannot get it to print in Staroffice.  
I've run spadmin, but it does not have printer for the 777.  I tried the 700 
driver, but it makes everything twice as tall on the paper.  And to make it 
worse, now I cannot get anything to print out.  I seem to have goofed up a 
setting that points to the printer at all.  The printer works ok out of some 
applications, but not others.  I've read much of the documentation on 
Linuxprinting.org, but can't find this.  Any help???

Thanks,

AMD K6-II @420
160MB Ram
20 Gig HD
CD and CD-RW
Mandrake 8.0 with 2.4.3 kernel
Staroffice 5.2

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Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Art Rowe

I enjoyed the humour.

Art

- Original Message -
From: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?


 From the end of the article:

 For those who didn't immediately see the irony in my editorial, I feel it
 necessary to mention that this was only written as a joke in response to
 the frustrating times we're all experiencing in our ever-continuing battle
 with Microsoft.


 Written At 05:18 PM Sunday, 9/9/2001 -=
 i just read this article and i am incredible disturbed by what i read.
Either
 this guy (the one who wrote this article) is unbelievable stupid or he's
a
 paid MS crony. Basically, what he's suggesting is to bark back at the dog
that
 barks at you. Figure that one out!!
 
 What exactly is what the open source is trying to accomplish? Compete
with M$
 or be a better, more reliable option for people who use computers?
mandrake 8,
 gnone, ximian, gnucash, staroffice are excellent examples of the way open
 source can outperform microshit products. Adopting, like the author
suggests,
 microshit strategies will further alianate the few windows users
interested in
 knowing more about linux.
 
 At best this is a bad idea with good intentions, and at worst, an
attempted of
 ms cronies to divide the open source community
 
 skinky wrote:
 
   Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it
   interesting.  Not such a bad idea.
  
   http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html
  
   Cheers
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Re: [newbie] partitioning and formatting harddrives

2001-09-09 Per discussione Matt Greer

On Sunday 09 September 2001 20:24, you wrote:

 are you using M$ fdisk? or linux fdisk?

Oh, whoops. Forgot about MS fdisk. It's linux fdisk,
whichever is installed with Mandrake 8.0

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[newbie] Re Internet sharing

2001-09-09 Per discussione freeman

I have setup the current version of internet sharing using the gui settings in 
Drakeconf(mandrake 8.0).  I must say it went very smoothly and I have not had any 
problems until recently.  My server is sharing my @home connection to a couple of 
winME and win2000 machines and I wanted to set up my mail for these units.  I am 
unable to locate the mail server or the news servers on the windows machines.  I am 
able to get the servers from the mandrake box though.  I them went on and turned off 
all firewalling, but it made no difference.  

I hope there is a way to connect to these servers using the internet sharing method 
because I cannot find the *.conf files for ipchains like in the previous versions 
(mandrake 6-7).  If any one has any suggestion on how to get it to work it would be 
greatly appreciated

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Re: [newbie] partitioning and formatting harddrives

2001-09-09 Per discussione etharp

have you tried diskdrake? for me, I find it in KDE (mdk 8.0 powerpack KDE 
default desktop) mandrake control center  hardware  disks  run 
confiuration tool (radio button in lower right of window)

On Sunday 09 September 2001 21:40, you had thoughts to the concept of:
 On Sunday 09 September 2001 20:24, you wrote:
  are you using M$ fdisk? or linux fdisk?

 Oh, whoops. Forgot about MS fdisk. It's linux fdisk,
 whichever is installed with Mandrake 8.0

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Re: [newbie] Installing

2001-09-09 Per discussione Linus Drouhard

On Sunday 09 September 2001  8:55, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 New problem.

 I am having a rough time downloading, decompressing,
 and installing programs. I've pretty much figured out
 how to download and then decompress, but then don't
 know how to install them. (Is that compiling?) My
 current efforts have to do with gnuCash 1.6.

Don't feel bad.  It took me days to get gnuCash to work.  There were many 
dependencies and I had trouble with the RPMs also.  Keep at it.  The actual 
installation of the packages from the source is rather easy.  I had to load 
up a bunch (I don't remember how many exactly) but a bunch of supporting 
packages.  

 There actually are RPM files on gnucash.org, but they
 won't download for me. I select the file, select a
 destination and then begin the download, but it starts
 and then stops almost immediately.

 I could use any help  on either of these areas. Could
 I be doing something wrong in my attempt to download
 an RPM? Maybe I need to try some other site and
 program.

 Re gzip (or whatever?), how do you get an exploded
 package actually runing?


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Re: [newbie] Installing ximian-gnome

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:25:38 +1200, skinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I have downloaded the ximian-gnome installer from www.ximian.com and all 
 the rpms from ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586.
 
 Do I uninstall my current corresponding gnome rpms and then run the 
 installer or will the installer _update_ the packages?

Run the installer, and tell it where you put the RPMs. It will install them for
you.
 
 Or perhaps I shouldn't use the installer but just try the way I updated 
 KDE (to KDE2.2) by uninstalling those packages that didn't remove other 
 software and then installing all the packages?
 
 Is it OK to do this while in KDE?

Yes.
 
 I'm trying to avoid stuffing things up and reinstalling LM yet again.  Any 
 suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  BTW I'm using LM8.0 2.4.3-20mdk.

I installed Ximian GNOME by manually installing the RPMs from a terminal. I was
in GNOME at the time :-)
 
 TIA
 skinky

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RE: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Siavash Sefidvash

Whats RH???

Siavash

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Sent: 09 September 2001 17:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?


On Sunday 09 September 2001 05:18, Michel Clasquin wrote:


On another note, I think the members of this list ought to give themselves a
little pat on the back - somebody decides to return to windows, asks how to
do it, and apart from a few wry ironic remarks, he does not get flamed, just
the instruction he asked for. Good work.

Well, if someone chooses what he really wants, we are not here to make him
change his choices.  We are here to assure he _HAS_ a choice.  We also help
out people with RH questions (and if you are curious, join a RH list for a
couple of days and you will easily reach the correct answer as a logical
conclusion).

Other OSes may be about proselyting.  Mandrake is about choice.

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Re: [newbie] partitioning and formatting harddrives

2001-09-09 Per discussione etharp

are you using M$ fdisk? or linux fdisk? 

On Sunday 09 September 2001 19:26, you had thoughts to the concept of:
 I have a hard drive which was previously used for
 Windows that I'd like to convert over to ext2. But
 when dealing with mkfs and fdisk, I'm getting a couple
 of contradictions.

 When I first ran fdisk it reported there was one
 partition and a fat32 file system on the disk, which
 at the time was true. The disk originally had two
 partitions on it before this check.

 /etc/fstab reports the disk still has two partitions.
 is fstab a static file or is it dynamically created
 based on how my computer is currently set up? Do I
 need to alter it?

 I then ran mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 and it proceeded to
 format the drive, which appeared to go ok. But going
 back to fdisk, it still reports the disk is fat32.

 What am I doing wrong? I don't want to use this disk
 until I'm sure it's alright.

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[newbie] Installing

2001-09-09 Per discussione Peter Rymshaw

New problem. 

I am having a rough time downloading, decompressing,
and installing programs. I've pretty much figured out
how to download and then decompress, but then don't
know how to install them. (Is that compiling?) My
current efforts have to do with gnuCash 1.6.

There actually are RPM files on gnucash.org, but they
won't download for me. I select the file, select a
destination and then begin the download, but it starts
and then stops almost immediately.

I could use any help  on either of these areas. Could
I be doing something wrong in my attempt to download
an RPM? Maybe I need to try some other site and
program.

Re gzip (or whatever?), how do you get an exploded
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[newbie] partitioning and formatting harddrives

2001-09-09 Per discussione Matt Greer

I have a hard drive which was previously used for
Windows that I'd like to convert over to ext2. But
when dealing with mkfs and fdisk, I'm getting a couple
of contradictions.

When I first ran fdisk it reported there was one
partition and a fat32 file system on the disk, which
at the time was true. The disk originally had two
partitions on it before this check.

/etc/fstab reports the disk still has two partitions.
is fstab a static file or is it dynamically created
based on how my computer is currently set up? Do I
need to alter it?

I then ran mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 and it proceeded to
format the drive, which appeared to go ok. But going
back to fdisk, it still reports the disk is fat32.

What am I doing wrong? I don't want to use this disk
until I'm sure it's alright.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione aortiz

i just read this article and i am incredible disturbed by what i read. Either
this guy (the one who wrote this article) is unbelievable stupid or he's a
paid MS crony. Basically, what he's suggesting is to bark back at the dog that
barks at you. Figure that one out!!

What exactly is what the open source is trying to accomplish? Compete with M$
or be a better, more reliable option for people who use computers? mandrake 8,
gnone, ximian, gnucash, staroffice are excellent examples of the way open
source can outperform microshit products. Adopting, like the author suggests,
microshit strategies will further alianate the few windows users interested in
knowing more about linux.

At best this is a bad idea with good intentions, and at worst, an attempted of
ms cronies to divide the open source community

skinky wrote:

 Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it
 interesting.  Not such a bad idea.

 http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html

 Cheers
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[newbie] PARTIONING HARDRIVE

2001-09-09 Per discussione Ivor Westwood

Hi All

I have a 17Gb hardrive  partitioned into three.  C. 2.5Gb,  D. 6.55Gb  E. 
6.55Gb. I had this partitioning done when I was going to install BiOs, but 
the computer shop installed Windows in all three partitions. I really 
wanted  Windows only in the 1st partition.

Now my question is this. Can I delete D and E and format them with Linux 
leaving C with Windows 98 intact.? This would save me a great deal of 
installation of Windows programs I  have to use, if I deleted the whole drive.

I would appreciate it if someone is able to put me on the right track.
  Thank you

Ivor Westwood

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Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

He's not being serious. It's all a joke.


On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 17:18:19 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i just read this article and i am incredible disturbed by what i read. Either
 this guy (the one who wrote this article) is unbelievable stupid or he's a
 paid MS crony. Basically, what he's suggesting is to bark back at the dog that
 barks at you. Figure that one out!!
 
 What exactly is what the open source is trying to accomplish? Compete with M$
 or be a better, more reliable option for people who use computers? mandrake 8,
 gnone, ximian, gnucash, staroffice are excellent examples of the way open
 source can outperform microshit products. Adopting, like the author suggests,
 microshit strategies will further alianate the few windows users interested in
 knowing more about linux.
 
 At best this is a bad idea with good intentions, and at worst, an attempted of
 ms cronies to divide the open source community
 
 skinky wrote:
 
  Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it
  interesting.  Not such a bad idea.
 
  http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html
 
  Cheers
  skinky

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Re: [newbie] PARTIONING HARDRIVE

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:24:10 +1200, Ivor Westwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All
 
 I have a 17Gb hardrive  partitioned into three.  C. 2.5Gb,  D. 6.55Gb  E. 
 6.55Gb. I had this partitioning done when I was going to install BiOs, but 
 the computer shop installed Windows in all three partitions. I really 
 wanted  Windows only in the 1st partition.
 
 Now my question is this. Can I delete D and E and format them with Linux 
 leaving C with Windows 98 intact.? This would save me a great deal of 
 installation of Windows programs I  have to use, if I deleted the whole drive.
 
 I would appreciate it if someone is able to put me on the right track.
   Thank you
 
 Ivor Westwood

You can do this with diskdrake. You may also want to check out LVM (Logical
Volume Management). It allows you to have partitions which can be resized
on-the-fly. It can be very useful to maximise system efficiency. I beleive that
diskdrake can do LVM. For more info, look here:

http://linux.org.mt/article/lvm

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Re: [newbie] Printer Setup for Staroffice

2001-09-09 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:37:58 -0500, Linus Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got a new Espon 777 printer.  I cannot get it to print in Staroffice.  
 I've run spadmin, but it does not have printer for the 777.  I tried the 700 
 driver, but it makes everything twice as tall on the paper.  And to make it 
 worse, now I cannot get anything to print out.  I seem to have goofed up a 
 setting that points to the printer at all.  The printer works ok out of some 
 applications, but not others.  I've read much of the documentation on 
 Linuxprinting.org, but can't find this.  Any help???
 
 Thanks,
 
 AMD K6-II @420
 160MB Ram
 20 Gig HD
 CD and CD-RW
 Mandrake 8.0 with 2.4.3 kernel
 Staroffice 5.2
 
 Linus

Firstly, make sure that your printer is correctly configured in CUPS.

Use the raw PostScript driver in StarOffice, and make the target of your print
command xpp. Make sure that you have the xpp package installed.

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Re: [newbie] PARTIONING HARDRIVE

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

At 03:24 PM 09/10/2001 +1200, Ivor Westwood wrote:
Hi All

I have a 17Gb hardrive  partitioned into three.  C. 2.5Gb,  D. 6.55Gb  E. 
6.55Gb. I had this partitioning done when I was going to install BiOs, but 
the computer shop installed Windows in all three partitions. I really 
wanted  Windows only in the 1st partition.

Now my question is this. Can I delete D and E and format them with Linux 
leaving C with Windows 98 intact.? This would save me a great deal of 
installation of Windows programs I  have to use, if I deleted the whole
drive.

You'd be ok, provided no Windows files were installed to D / E.  Also, make
sure that your swap file, application files (the stuff under Program
Files), and any data files are on C.  Then it is a simple matter of going
into windows fdisk, and removing the windows partitions for D and E.

Once you've removed those, then run the Linux install and partition as you
want.

Michael

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[newbie] Re: Re[2]: [expert] httpd as root

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

Mulus,

If you really want to open up that can of worms, yes, you'll have to
re-compile apache from source.  If this is a box with an internet
connection, that isn't behind a firewall, I would strongly suggest
continuing to run apache as the apache user.  If it's behind a firewall
which blocks outside access to the box, then go ahead.

Michael

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At 12:39 PM 09/10/2001 +0700, you wrote:
Hello Michael,

Monday, September 10, 2001, 11:18:27 AM, you wrote:

MDV It would help to know what version of apache, what your error log says
i installed it from Mandrake 8.0 rpm package.

MDV (/var/log/httpd/error_log), and what line(s) in the apache configuration
[root@starwars conf]# service httpd start
Starting httpd-perl: Error: Apache has not been designed to serve
pages while
running as root.  There are known race conditions that
will allow any local user to read any file on the system.
If you still desire to serve pages as root then
add -DBIG_SECURITY_HOLE to the EXTRA_CFLAGS line in your
src/Configuration file and rebuild the server.  It is
strongly suggested that you instead modify the User
directive in your httpd.conf file to list a non-root
user.
   [FAILED]
Starting httpd: Error:  Apache has not been designed to serve pages while
running as root.  There are known race conditions that
will allow any local user to read any file on the system.
If you still desire to serve pages as root then
add -DBIG_SECURITY_HOLE to the EXTRA_CFLAGS line in your
src/Configuration file and rebuild the server.  It is
strongly suggested that you instead modify the User
directive in your httpd.conf file to list a non-root
user.
   [FAILED]



MDV file you are trying to change.
in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf :
### Common server configuration
#
User apache
Group apache


... do i have to download tgz package, and compile a new apache..? :(

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[newbie] Linksys router.

2001-09-09 Per discussione nathan wainwright

anyone that has installed slackware over nfs... how would i get a router to 
give the machine a ip address? my linksys router (which i did get 
runnniing... but i had to take that one back because of bad noises) will NOT 
give the machine that i want to install slackware to over nfs... a ip 
address...

i tried powering down the router... changing cables... the cables are all 
fine... and i know the nic card works... and the router is brand new.?

what am i doing wrong?

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Re: [newbie] FAQ was re: Uninstall Linux ?

2001-09-09 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

All,

Although the FAQ hasn't been completely finished, it can be viewed at
http://webspinners.uwf.org/~mviron/faqs/linux.php .  Keep in mind, that
this is still very much under development, so all of the 200+ postings that
I've made probably aren't covered by the FAQ yet.

If you have any comments, suggestions, or questions, don't hesitate to let
me know.

Michael

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At 03:25 PM 09/09/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Please post a link to the faq on 'completion'?


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